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Stat,e Superannuation Fund. [28 OCTOBER, 1964.] Oakleigh Court-house. 1117

Mr. RYLAH (Chief Secretary). 4. What was the total amount of interest ! listened with interest to the honor credited to this account as at 30th June, able member for Williamstown. I 1964? 5. What value of reserve units was trans sympathize with him in the problem ferred to ordinary units to 30th June, 1964? which he raised; in fact, I was pleased to hear his declaration of Mr. BOLTE (Premier and Trea policy. So far as the Minister of surer) .-The answers are- Housing is concerned, whenever I 1. 916 officers. Details of the salary have raised with him a problem re ranges of the officers concerned are not required for reserve unit purposes and are lating to a deserted wife who wished therefore not kept by the Superannuation to keep the young children and home Board. together, the honorable gentleman 2. £9,868 12s. 7d. and the Housing Commission were 3. and 4. No interest has yet been most co-operative. I shall bring the credited. The Superannuation Board, acting honorable member's remarks to the on the advice of the actuary, has deter Minister of Housing and, if I can mined that the rate shall be 4 per cent. per assist him in any case he puts for annum compounded, and the first interest will be credited on 30th June, 1965, on the ward, I shall be glad to do so. amount of credit of the Reserve Units Mr. BLOOMFIELD (Minister of Account on 30th June, 1964. Education) .-I shall have the matter 5. £15 13s. in respect of seven units. raised by the honorable member for Richmond investigated. Of course, it OAKLEIGH COURT-HOUSE. may well prove that the children con PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS: ESTIMATED cerned, who were quite young, were COST: CONSTRUCTION. acting on their own volition. Mr. SCANLAN (Oakleigh) asked The motion was agreed to. the Attorney-General- Whether the plans for proposed improve The House adjourned at 10.29 p.m. ments to Oakleigh court-house were amended recently; if so-(a) what effect these amendments will have in improving facilities at the court; (b) what is the esti mated cost of these improvements; (c) when it is anticipated construction will commence; and ( d) if he will lay on the ilrgislatittt Asstmbly. table of the Library a copy of the amended plan? For Mr. RYLAH (Attorney Wednesday, October 28, 1964. General), Mr. Meagher (Minister of Transport) .-The answer is- At my request the Public Works Depart ment was recently asked to re-examine the The SPEAKER (Sir William plans for improvement of the Oakleigh McDonald) took the chair at 4.11 court-house and, I understand, will submit an amended plan for consideration within p.m., and read the prayer. a few days. For that reason, I am unable to answer STATE SUPERANNUATION FUND. the remainder of this portion of the question in precise terms. However, I am able to RESERVE UNITS. say that the main pu_rpose of the amend ment of the plans is to provide a properly Mr. WILKES (Northcote) asked equipped second court-room at Oakleigh, the Treasurer- together with an additional room which may 1. How many officers have elected to take be used for a third court-room in emergen reserve units of superannuation and what cies. Pending approval of the amended were the salary ranges of these officers? plans, no estimate of cost has been prepared by the Public Works Department. I expect 2. What amount was paid into the that construction of the improvements will Reserve Units Account up to 30th June, commence during the current financial year. 1964? I have directed that when the amended 3. What rate of interest has been credited plan has been approved, a copy thereof is in respect of money held in this account? to be supplied to the honorable member. 1118 Stamps Act. [ASSEMBLY.] University of Melbourne.

STAMPS ACT. UNIVERSITY OF MELBOURNE. DECISIONS OF COMPTROLLER OF SECONDARY TEACHERS' COLLEGE: STAMPS: APPEAL BY MR. J. D. SCIENCE TEACHING FACILITIES. PAXTON-PETTY. Mr. WILTON (Broadmeadows) Mr. DUNSTAN (Mornington) asked asked the Minister of Education the Attorney-General- !. What science teaching facilities are available to the Secondary Teachers' College What is the reason for the delay in hear at the University of Melbourne? ing the. appeal by Mr. J. D. Paxton-Petty of the Ridge, Mount Eliza, against certain 2. Whether the Government has any decisions of the Comptroller of Stamps? plans for building a science laboratory at the college; if so, what amounts will be For Mr. RYLAH (Attorney- allocated in each year and how such General) , Mr. Meagher (Minister of amounts will be spent? Transport) .-The answer is- Mr. BLOOMFIELD (Minister of Mr. Paxton-Petty having required the Education) .-The answers are- Comptroller of Stamps to state and sign 1. At the University of Melbourne, the a case in accordance with section 33 of the Secondary Teachers' College has limited use Stamps Act 1958, the Comptroller of of a physics laboratory. Stamps stated and signed a case which was 2. It is proposed to build a third teaching delivered to Mr. Paxton-Petty by posting it block at the Secondary Teachers' College to him by registered mail on 29th July, incorporating additional laboratories, lecture 1963. Receipt of the case was acknowledged rooms, preparation rooms, and store rooms. by Mr. Paxton-Petty in a letter dated 28th No specific amount of money has been August, 1963, addressed to the Crown allocated to this project at this stage. Solicitor. The onus of having the case set down for hearing rests with Mr. Paxton EDUCATION DEPARTMENT. Petty, as provided by sub-section (2) of section 33 of the Act. HELEN-STREET STATE SCHOOL, NORTH- COTE: ACCOMMODATION FOR STUDENTS. FRENCH ISLAND PENAL Mr. WILKES (Northcote) asked the SETTLEMENT. Minister of Education- ESCAPES: REPRESENTATIONS BY !. How many pupils attend the Helen FRENCH ISLAND PROGRESS ASSOCIA- street State School, Northcote, and how TION: PROCEDURES. . many pupils could be accommodated? 2. How many students from secondary Mr. DUNSTAN (Mornington) asked schools were accommodated at that school the Chief Secretary- . in each of the last three years while wait Whether the Chief Commissioner of ing for schools to be built; and-( a) what Police and the Director-General of Social schools were concerned; and (b) for what Welfare have investigated the matters periods those students were accommodated? raised by the French Island Progress 3. Whether the Education Department Association, in August this year, relative has any plans for future development of the !O escapes from prison on French Island; Helen-street State School; if so, what plans? if so, what was the result of the investiga ( Mr. BLOOMFIELD (Minister of tions; if not, when a report can be ex pected? Education) .-The answers are- 1. 438. 539 pupils could be accommo For Mr. RYLAH (Chief Secretary), dated in the portion of the building at Mr. Meagher (Minister of Trans present used for school purposes. 2. No pupils other than primary school port) .-The answer is- pupils have occupied the school in 1962, The matters raised by the French Island 1963 or 1964. Progress Association concerning the es 3. There are no present plans for the cape of prisoners on the island have been future development of the school. investigated by the Under Secretary, the Chief Commissioner of Police and the FLEMINGTON HIGH SCHOOL: CON- Director-General of Social Welfare. STRUCTION: TEMPORARY ACCOM- What are believed to be satisfactory pro MODATION FOR STUDENTS. cedures in the event of future escapes have been agreed upon. Mr. HOLLAND (Flemington) asked I am sure the honorable member will the Minister of Education- agree that it is inadvisable to publish these 1. When it is anticipated construction will approved procedures, but I will be pleased commence on the proposed Flemington High to make the files available to him for his School and what is the expected comple perusal tion date? Land [28 OCTOBER, 1964.] Valuations. 1119

2. What estimated number of pupils will Mr. PORTER (Minister of Public be using the Flemington High School's Works) .-The answers supplied by present temporary accommodation at Errol street State School at the start of the next the Minister for Local Government school year and whether there will be are in the form of a comprehensive sufficient accommodation for the anticipated and complicated table, and I suggest intake? that it be incorporated in Hansard Mr. BLOOMFIELD (Minister of without my reading it. Education) .-The answers are- Leave was granted, and the 1. It is anticipated that construction of the proposed Flemington High School will answers were as follows:- commence early in 1965. I am unable to 1 and 2. (a) The following municipalities make a forecast as to the expected com have submitted valuations to the Valuer pletion date. General which have been certified generally 2. It is estimated that enrolment for 1965 true and correct:- is 380 and that there will be sufficient tem porary accommodation for the anticipated Percentage Increase. enrolment at the Errol-street State School. Municipality. N.A.V. u.c.v. LABOUR AND INDUSTRY ACT. % % LONG SERVICE LEAVE: REPRESENTA Avon S ...... 62 .. Alexandra S .. .. 56 .. TIONS OF TRADES HALL COUNCIL. Ararat C .. .. 26 33 Mr. STONEHAM (Leader of the Beechworth S .. .. 166 .. Berwick (Iona riding} S .. 85 .. Opposition) asked the Minister of Broad.ford S .. .. 76 .. Labour and Industry- Broadmeadows (Somerton Whether he has received representations ward} C .. .. 132 174 from the Melbourne Trades Hall Council Bulla S ...... 75 .. for amendment of the Labour and Industry Bungaree S .. .. 21 .. Act 1958 regarding continuity of employment Charlton S .. .. 144 .. for long service leave purposes of certain Cranbourne S .. .. 163 .. employees of Government Departments and Croydon S .. .. 106 251 instrumentalities; if so whether it is intended Donald S ...... 129 .. to make provision for such employees who, Dunmunkle S .. .. 61 .. because of stand-downs while awaiting Echuca B .. .. 31 51 replenishment of departmental funds, incur Eltham S .. .. 60 222 a break of service exceeding two months Geelong West C .. .. 94 .. before re-engagement, and, in that event, Glenlyon S .. .. 116 .. when it is intended to introduce such a Horsham C .. .. 20 .. provision? Huntly S ...... 155 .. Karkarooc S .. .. 101 .. Mr. G. 0. REID (Minister of Korumburra S .. .. 40 . . Labour and Industry) .-The answer Maldon S ...... 103 .. is- Marong S .. .. 97 .. Metcalfe S .. .. 68 .. Representations have been received from Mildura C .. .. 12 15 the Melbourne Trades Hall Council for Mortlake S .. .. 82 .. amendment of the Labour and Industry Moe C .. .. 43 68 Act 1958 in this respect. The matter is N unawading C .. .. 127 232 currently receiving consideration. Numurkah (Centre riding} S .. 39 .. Numurkah (South, East, and LAND VALUATIONS. West ridings} S .. .. 36 . . Phillip Island S .. .. 147 .. PERCENTAGE INCREASES. Portland T .. .. 57 129 Mr. WILKES (Northcote) asked the Rutherglen S .. .. 62 .. Sunshine C .. .. 101 .. Minister of Public Works, for the Upper Yarra S .. .. 80 .. Minister for Local Government- Traralgon S .. .. 72 46 1. Which municipalities have submitted Traralgon C .. .. 36 53 valuations to the Valuer-General for exam Violet Town S .. .. 76 .. ination and/or approval under the Valuation Wannon S .. .. 96 .. of Land Act 1960 and which valuations Warrnambool C .. .. 49 137 were-( a) accepted; and (b) rejected? Warrnambool S .. .. 25 .. Winchelsea (Coast riding} S .. 69 .. 2. What is the percentage increase of the Wycheproof S .. .. 120 .. net annual values and/or the unimproved Yarrawong a S .. .. 86 .. capital values in each municipality which had valuations accepted or approved by the NOTE : S = Shire ; C = City ; T = Town ; Valuer-General? B =Borough. 1120 State Rivers and Water [ASSEMBLY.] Supply Commission.

(b) In only one case (the Shire of Mans (b) Second, Third and Ninth Report of field) to date has a valuation been found the Australian Rural Reconstruc not generally true and correct and therefore tion Commission of Land Utiliza limited in use by Order of the Governor in tion and Farm Settlement 1944 and Council. The percentage increase in the 1946. valuation of net annual values was 23 per cent. ( c) Transvaal Rating Commission Report 1932. RURAL AND PRIMARY PRODUCTION (d) Committee of Inquiry into the Valua tion of Land Act, New South LANDS: DETERMINATION OF VALUES. Wales, 1960. Mr. WILKES (Northcote) asked ( e) Report of the Land Committee of the the Minister of Public Works, for the Federated Farmers of New Zealand Minister for Local Government- 1953. !. What methods are used by valuers in determining the values of-( a) rural lands; and ( b) lands used only for primary STATE RIVERS AND WATER production? SUPPLY COMMISSION. 2. Whether it would be possible to deter FRANKSTON SEWERAGE SCHEME. n:iine the value of t~~se lands by the applica tion of the productivity method alone; if not, Mr. DUNSTAN (Mornington) asked why? the Minister of Water Supply- Mr. PORTER (Minister of Public When the Frankston Sewerage Authority Works) .-The Minister for Local lodged an application for approval, by the State Rivers and Water Supply Commission, Government has supplied the follow to the design of the reticulation system for ing answers:- the sewerage of Frankston, including Sea 1. · The basic method used by valuers in ford and Mount Eliza and, in view of the assessing the value of rural land is to relate whole scheme remaining at a standstill, the. land being valued to comparable lands when the Frankston Sewerage Authority which have been sold within a period which can expect to hear from the Commission? makes those sales· relevant. Mr. DARCY (Minister of Water The valuer must also distinguish carefully between sales which have been made for Supply).-The answer is- cash or reasonable terms and those which Proposed standards for detailed design of have brought an increased price by reason the reticulation system for the Frankston of excessively easy terms. Sales which are Sewerage District were submitted to the out 'of line with the general pattern, either Commission for approval on 28th July, because they are too high (as a result of 1964. The review of the proposals for this special pressures) or too low (as, for ex large scheme is well advanced, and the ample, some family sales) are also dis Frankston Sewerage Authority will be ad regarded. vised concerning this matter within the next Rural properties are seldom, if ever, com three weeks. pletely identical one with the other and it therefore becomes necessary for the valuer to analyse the pattern of the sales available HOUSING COMMISSION. to determine the influences which create the differences in price-the carrying capacity APPLICATIONS FOR TENANCY AND or yield, the situation, road access, schools, PURCHASE: DEPOSITS AND buses, electric power and telephones, REPAYMENTS. capacity of the property to respond to im provement and so on. Mr. MUTTON (Coburg) asked the The valuer then makes his valuation of Assistant Minister of Education, for each property in the light of the conclusions the Minister of Housing- he has drawn from a close study of the sales and the weight to be given to each factor 1. How many applications were received influencing value. by the Housing Commission during the year 1963-64 to purchase-(a) brick-veneer 2. The productivity method of valuation homes; and (b) concrete homes, and how has been examined by several authoritative many homes were sold? bodies over the years in various countries and the unanimous opinion is that it is 2. What minimum deposit is required and virtually impracticable. what is-( a) the period of the loan; (b) See, for example:- the loan interest rate; and (c) the average weekly repayment? (a) Dr. J. F. N. Murray, Principles and Practice of Valuation, third edition, 3. How many applications for tenancy are pages 110 to 116. still on the waiting list? Water Supply Loan [28 OCTOBER, 1964.] App/,ication Bill. 1121

Mr. ROSSITER (Assistant Minister loan application Acts and the actual of Education).-The Minister of allocation of funds for a financial Housing has supplied the following year. Actually, loan application answers:- Acts cover portions of two financial !. 8,422 applications for accommodation years and may at times cover periods were received by the Commission during the of more than twelve months. Alloca financial year 1963-64. Applications are tions are for financial years only. dealt with on the basis of either tenancy or purchase and are not specifically regis The explanatory memorandum tered in separate categories. which has been supplied to honorable It is known that there is a strong preter members sets out clearly ex ence for brick-veneer houses but no record is kept of each applicant's preference. penditures authorized by Parliament 1,825 houses were sold during the finan in previous loan application Acts and cial year 1963-64. actual expenditure in financial years. 2. The minimum deposit required at the The actual allocation for expenditure present time is £100. However, amending on works during the 1964-65 financial legislation implementing the Government's year is £9,315,000. However, the election proposals is in course of prepara authority of Parliament is required tion and will be introduced this session. for expenditure up to the £15,125,000 (a) The period of the loan varies be set out in the Bill so that work may tween one to 30 years where the purchaser is admitted to the death be continued beyond the end of the benefit scheme and between one to financial year until another loan 45 years where the death benefit application Bill is approved in 1965. scheme does not apply. Part of the £15,125,000 is a re-vote (b) The rate of interest charged on a of amounts authorized for works in terms sale depends on whether or not a purchaser elects to take ad the 1963 Water Supply Loan Applica vantage of the house purchaser's tion Act and not yet expended, and death benefit scheme and also includes commitments in respect of upon the particular Common contracts, orders for materials and wealth-State Housing Agreement under which the home was erected. land resumption payments. The interest rates vary from 4! per cent. to 5i per cent. per annum. Item 1 in the first part of the schedule provides for the continua ( c) £5 per week. tion of the large Eppalock project 3. The Commission has 11,437 applica for the use of the waters of the tions for accommodation (either tenancy or purchase) at the present time. Campaspe river. The Eppalock dam and the pumping station and pipe-line to Bendigo have been completed and WATER SUPPLY LOAN have been in operation for some time. APPLICATION BILL. The project, however, includes recon Mr. DARCY (Minister of Water struction and enlargement of the Supply) .-I move- channel system of the old Campaspe That this Bill be now read a second time. Irrigation District which was built by a local trust many years ago. The The 1964 Water Supply Loan sum of £125,000 was spent on this Application Bill seeks authority for channel work last financial year, and expenditure of £15,125,000 on works £142,000 has been allocated for ex of water supply, irrigation, drainage, penditure in 1964-65. The work on sewerage, flood protection and river the Campaspe district channels is improvement throughout the country estimated to cost £560,000, which, areas of the State of Victoria over when added to expenditure on the the next twelve months-m·ore or dam, pumping plant and pipe-line, will less-until such time next year as a bring the total expenditure on the further Water Supply Loan Applica whole Eppalock project to £4,710,000. tion Bill has been approved by Parliament. There seems always to Honorable members will be be some confusion between the interested to learn that the total authority given by Parliament under estimated cost of the project, when 1122 Water Supply Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill. approved by the Government on the channel. The continued expansion of recommendation of the Public Works irrigation works is indicated by the Committee in 1959, was £5,000,000, provision, in item 1 of the second and they will, I am sure, join with part of the schedule, of an amount of me in congratulating the members of £2,300,000 for irrigation districts. the State Rivers and Water Supply Since the inception of the State Commission and their staff on their Rivers and Water Supply Commission excellent achievement in keeping ex in 1906, a total of £80,000,000 has penditure well within the authorized been spent on irrigation works, in cost. This achievement has been the cluding storages, channels and drains. result of very efficient management of works and favourable weather During the year 1963-64, 1,701,468 conditions. acre-feet of water was delivered to an irrigated area of 1,137,241 acres. Work on another large dam-the It is of interest to note that, although Bellfield dam to store the water of irrigated lands represent only about Fyans creek for use in the ex 3 per cent. of all occupied land in tensive Wimmera-Mallee system Victoria, nearly 20 per cent. of the was started by the Premier at an value of agricultural production official ceremony in May, 1963, and emanates from these improved lands. total expenditure to 30th June, 1964, These figures illustrate clearly the ex has been approximately £1,400,000. tent to which the economy of the The sum of £1,025,000 has been pro State now depends on irrigated water. vided. for continuation of work on An amount of £1,500,000 is included the Bellfield dam to 30th June, 1965. in this item for the continuation of Another important storage is under the construction programme of construction at the present time--on channel enlargement and drainage the Buffalo river-and work is rapidly within the Goulburn-Murray Irriga proceeding following a commence tion District. During the past ment during the past financial year, financial year, the Commission's con when £360,000 was expended. The struction force expended £1,310,000 allocation for this financial year is on works in this district. The sub £1,210,000. stantial enlargement and remodelling of main channels and other dis This measure proposes to give tributary works, including many authority for the commencement of bridges and structures, is required an important storage on the Tarago mainly to enable full use to be made river to provide for anticipated con of the water from the enlarged -Eildon siderable increase in the water supply reservoir and other storages. For requirements from the Mornington 1964-65, £1,350,000 has been allo Peninsula system, including the water cated for expenditure on this work to requfrements for the development the end of the financfal year. associated with the Westernport refinery. The authorization for Lake The Commission now has four Corangamite is mainly for the major works centres in the Goulburn resumption of land around the Murray Irrigation District, at Numur Cundare pool as recommended by the kah, Tatura, Kerang and Roches Public Works Committee. ter. Channel remodelling work is also being carried out in the Item 6 of the first part of the Campaspe Irrigation District to which schedule authorizes an expenditure of I referred earlier. The 1964-65 loan £400,000 for other storages and head allocation for major works in the works which will include a start on a Goulburn-Murray Irrigation District storage of 35,000 acre-feet at Nillah consists of £885,000 for channels and cootie on the Broken river, and also structures and £365,000 for drainage. on the development of the Corop Expenditure on channel works com lakes, to be used as storages in con prises £85,000 for new channels in the junction with the Waranga-Western Dunbulbalane area, and £425,000 to Mr. Darcy. Water Supply Loan [28 OCTOBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1123

be spent on remodelling in the Mornington Peninsula system. The central Goulburn area of Rodney, demand for reticulated water is still Tongala-Stanhope, Deakin and increasing for both domestic and Rochester. Structures along the industrial purposes. I have already Waranga-Western channel will take referred to the provision of funds for £175,000, and at the new Kerang the new Tarago reservoir under the major works centre, £200,000 has first part of the schedule. Funds been provided for completion of the have been provided for completion of Swan Hill pumping station and Fish Devilbend reservoir at a cost of Point weir, plus work on the Pental £135,000, whilst trunk mains and Island pumping station and establish reticulation will require £260,000 and ment of the centre itself. Most of the £190,000 respectively from the drainage work will be done from the £810,000 allocated to the Mornington Numurkah centre where an allocation Peninsula system in 1964-65. of £265,000 has been made for The Bill authorizes expenditure of Murray Valley and North Sheppar £225,000 in the Bellarine Peninsula ton-Dunbulbalane drainage, and for area. The sum of £150,000 provided dredging of the Broken and Nine Mile for expenditure in the current creeks. An amount of £100,000 has financial year, will enable completion been provided for drainage in the of the Queenscliff storage of central Goulburn region. 45,000,000 gallons-and expenditure The remammg part of the of £27,000-and will allow £42,000 authorization sought for irrigation for work to begin on the first stage districts, amounting to £800,000, is of the Bellarine main pipe-line for works to be carried out by district enlargement. Trunk mains and work forces. Within the irrigation reticulation extensions in this districts, much work remains to be developing area will receive £29,000 done to increase the efficiency of and £39,000 respectively. The amount water distribution and drainage of £200,000 set out in the Bill for systems. Constant expansion and the Otway system is needed for remodelling of channels and struc works to meet urgent demands for tures, installation of measuring and more water. Works to be undertaken control devices, and the carrying out from this year's allocation of of numerous small tasks are all £135,000 include £60,000 for main aimed at increased efficiency of pipe-lines, £34,000 for completion of operation. the Noorat-Glenormiston scheme and £15,000 for other rural extensions. The sum of £70,000 is to be spent in 1964-65 on drainage in the Provision of £165,000 is made for Macalister district and £85,000 on the construction of additional town drainage of the Swan Hill flats. An water supply storages and improve amount of £200,000 is also available ments to urban and rural water from the Goulburn-Murray Irrigation supply works within the Wimmera Districts Maintenance Equalization Mallee system. Supplementary urban and Renewals Account for replace storages are being provided at ment works to be undertaken numerous urban centres as part by district work forces in 1964-65. of a long-term programme. Such The Commission is proceeding with storages which will be completed this the enlargement and extension of financial year are at Charlton, reticulated water services, and with Manangatang, Marnoo, Pimpinio, concrete lining of channels in the Rupanyup, Ultima and Walpeup, and Caliban system. An amount of a start will be made on supplement £250,000 is included in the Bill to ary storages for Korong Vale and authorize this work. Woorinen. Further extensions of reticulation, together with main The attention of honorable mem channel enlargements and structure bers is directed to a further replacements, are also involved in £1,150,000 for works within the this provision. 1124 Water Supply Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill.

The amount of £150,000 shown in supply works, even with the very the Bill for flood protection and liberal financial assistance which has drainage districts is largely for the been available to them. Consequently, Carrum Drainage District, where after an examination of the position, £90,000 is to be spent in 1964-65. the Government has decided to pro The principal works involved are the vide special financial aid to these Eel Race drain and Patterson river towns, in addition to the usual grants improvements, the Bardia-avenue pipe and interest subsidies available. This drain, and Boggy creek and Seaford will be done by deferring portion of contour drains. The sum of £250,000 the interest and redemption charges for surveys, investigations and de on the loan funds provided by the signs will enable the Commission to Government, until the town has continue the extensive programme of grown sufficiently to meet its normal investigations into water supply annual charges with the maximum resources throughout the country rates in force for urban supplies areas of the State. The amount of throughout the State. A provision £125,000 for workshops, storesheds, of £398,000 has been made for &c., is almost wholly for increased schemes in this category, as listed in and improved office and store facili the seventh part of the schedule. ties at country centres, principally in the expanding Goulburn-Murray During the current financial year, centres and at Frankston. work will proceed on large schemes for the provision of water supplies This Government has always placed to Gembrook, Cockatoo, Avonsleigh great emphasis on the need for and Emerald, and Hurstbridge, Panton adequate reticulated water supplies Hill and Wattle Glen. In addition, in country towns. Provision has major works will be undertaken at been made in the third to the eighth Balmoral, Benalla, Colac, Dayles.ford, parts of the schedule to this Bill for Hamilton, Horsham, Lakes Entrance, expenditure of up to £3,000,000 Malmsbury, Metung, St. Arnaud, which is £500,000 more than in the Seymour, Tongala, Yarra Junction last Bill. Good progress was made on and Yea. Provision has also been town water supplies in the 1963-64 made for Government grants towards financial year, and new schemes were new schemes at Monbulk and Wan brought into operation at Anakie, din North, which will be constructed Apsley, Axedale, Barmah, Cudgewa, by the Melbourne and Metropolitan Darnum, Melton, Miner's Rest, Spring Board of Works by agreement with hurst and Timboon. This month five the shire councils concerned. new trusts were constituted for the supply of water at Bungaree and Under the ninth part of the sche Wallace, Peterborough, Port Camp dule, the Bill makes provision for bell, Seaspray and Thornton. The expenditure of £900,000 for sewerage very extensive new scheme to supply authorities operating in country cen water to the towns of Bass and San tres. This sum will enable Govern Remo on the mainland, and New ment grants to be advanced towards haven and Cowes on Phillip Island, capital works under construction by has been brought into operation by a number of authorities and also the Westernport Waterworks Trust. enab1e loan advances in several cases where the annual costs of sewerage There are now 213 towns in Vic toria supplied by local water authori are proportionately greater than in ties, in addition to the 139 towns most towns. Sewerage authorities supplied by the State Rivers and will also be authorized to raise loans Water Supply Commission. How from non-Government sources to ever, there are still about 160 small wards the cost of approved capital COUI1try townships without reticulated works. In the past financial year, water supplies, largely because they new sewerage schemes were brought· could not afford to install water into operation at Mooroopna and Mr. Darcy. Railway Loan [28 OCTOBER, 1964.] .Application Bill. 1125

Tatura and, with the recent com RAILWAY LOAN APPLICATION mencement of the Redcliffs system, BILL. the total number of towns with The debate (adjourned from sewerage is now 56. Work is pro October 6) on the motion of Mr. ceeding at present with new sewer Meagher (Minister of Transport) for ag~ schemes for Lang Lang, Mount the second reading of this Bill was Ehza, Redcliffs and Seymour. Pro resumed. vision has been made for further schemes to commence construction at Mr. STONEHAM (Leader of the Alexandra, Charlton, Chelsea, Cob Opposition) .-The annual Bill on ram, Cohuna, Croydon, Foster, Frank this subject affords an opportunity ston, Orbost, Rochester, Toora for quite a deal of acrimonious de Willaura and Yallourn Nor.th. ' bate to take place on matters affect ing the railway system of this State. In the tenth part of the schedule No doubt the Minister of Transport to the Bill, authority is sought for is to-day expecting the subject of an amount of £375,000 for advances derailments to again feature promi to river improvement and drainage nently in speeches by Opposition trusts. There are now 24 such bodies and this provision will enable them to members. However, so far as this commence or continue works for particular subject is concerned, I river improvement and land drainage should like to indicate at the outset within their districts. In addition to that, while naturally the Opposition the provision of Government loan maintains the importance which it moneys to waterworks trusts, local has attached to the need for renewed governing bodies, sewerage authori and effective efforts of a special ties and river improvement trusts, the nature to be taken by the Govern Government has approved a pro ment to arrest the alarming situation gramme of private borrowing by that exists to-day, we should like to these authorities during the 1964-65 refer also to other aspects of railway financial year to a total amount of operations. £2,800,000. The Opposition considers that there is little more it can add on the The eleventh part of the schedule subject of derailments, and its mem to the Bill authorizes loan advances to the Latrobe Valley Water and bers have already, to the best of their Sewerage Board totalling £625,000. ability, endeavoured to impress on This will enable the completion of the Minister and the Government the the major works of the Board's seriousness of this matter. water supply system and permit fur Before leaving this particular as ther extension and improvement of pect, I want to direct the attention the sewage disposal area. In addi of the Minister to a statement that tion, provision is made for the initial appeared in the press in August, ad stages of the water supply and sewer verting to the fact that the then age at the new town of Hazelwood, Acting Premier, Mr. Rylah, had which is being developed by the called for a special report on derail Housing Commission in the Latrobe ments. A few days later it was re Valley. The works completed by the ported in the press that the Railways Latrobe Valley Water and Sewerage Commissioners had handed to the Board will be taken over and man Minister of Transport a comprehen aged by local water and sewerage sive statement on the current con authorities, which will be constituted dition of the railways. Most people in due course. understood, of course, that the report the Minister received was basically a I commend the Bill to the House. report on derailments, but when I On the motion of Mr. STONEHAM asked for its production in this House (Leader of the Opposition), the de he said that the report actually might bate was adjourned until Wednesday, be the basis for future policy deci November 11. sions in respect of certain matters, Session 1964.-47 1126 Railway Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill. so he did not think it advisable to services for the community which have it publicized at that stage. My road operators could avoid the re purpose was not to publicize the sponsibility of providing, and thus report but to co-operate with the the railways were in a disadvanta Minister in order that he might allow geous position. At page 6 of the us to have a look at -what the Com report, the Commissioners stated, missioners had to say at that stage. inter alia- Mr. MEAGHER.-Of course, it was The State rail system has spare capacity which cannot be reduced with any not a report on derailments. appreciable saving in costs, and so long as Mr. STONEHAM.-Whether it was the range of " as-of-right" commodities, many of which are eminently suitable for a report on derailments, or a report rail transport, remains outside the discre on the system in general, we felt tionary powers of the Transport Regulation that it was only right that it should Board, the existing wasteful duplication of be made available to us for perusal transport resources will continue to the so that we could offer constructive detriment of taxpayers generally. suggestions. I am directing attention to these The Herald, in its issue of 11th references flrom the two annual August, this year, carried an article reports in order to focus attention under the heading " Meagher: It on the need for a properly developed could be Basis for Action-Crisis policy on transport in this State. The Railways Report for Minister." Bill before us seeks the approval of Naturally, this is a topic which rightly Parliament for the expenditure of concerns members of the Opposition. £11,500,000, of which sum £7,750,000 I should hope that the Minister, per will be spent during the current haps in a new frame of mind to-day, financial year. This is for the pro might see his way clear to enlighten vision of facilities to improve the members on what the Commissioners railway service in this State. said were the current basic require Naturally the importance of railway ments of the railways. revenue to the State Budget, as was referred to by the Transport Regula No doubt it was noticed that a tion Board, imposes upon us an obli most interesting general survey of gation to take note of the situation transport problems was given in last which exists to-day and to ensure year's report of the Transport Regu that the Government will no longer lation Board. At paragraph 14, the evade facing up to some of the Board stated- problems which have been evaded in In every community where an extensive the past. railway system has been developed the railways play a key role in the organization I refer especially to interstate of the transport. The part the railways play in the affairs of the community and traffic and the shocking conditions the volume of traffic required for their that prevail on the Hume Highway, efficient operation are obviously tremen which has been referred to in many dously imPQrtant factors in determining newspaper articles as "a ribbon of attitudes towards the operations of road transport. In Australia, this derives added death." I note from the report of the significance because of the effect on State Railways Commissioners that quite a Budgets and the financial results of the substantial improvement has been State-owned railways systems. made in interstate goods traffic since In their report for last year the Rail the completion of the uniform gauge ways Commissioners, as is usual, line between Wodonga and Mel directed attention to the serious posi bourne. At page 7 of their report tion in respect of road transport the Commissioners state, inter alia- competition. They pointed out that Interstate traffic despatch by forwarding there was intense competition from agents under the bulk-loading scheme, genuine and spurious interstate road showed another substantial increase, the total tonnage for the year amounting to operators. They also pointed out 450,000 compared with 297,000 tons for that, as general carriers, the rail 1961-62. The continued growth of this ways were obliged to provide traffic is principally due to the greatly Railway Loan . [28 OCTOBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1127

improved inter-capital services and the The SPEAKER (Sir William further advantages of the bogie exchange McDonald).-Order! I think the technique. Leader of the Opposition will I was pleased to read recently in the appreciate that his remarks are wide journal, Federal Offi.ce News, circu of the Railway Loan Application Bill. lated by the Australian Railways Union, evidence of the pride and Mr. STONEHAM.-With respect, team spirit that exists in the railway Mr. Speaker, I point out that, in his system. I have no doubt that there second-reading speech, the Minister is very grave dissatisfaction among of Transport, stated, inter alia- railwaymen in this State over wages At Dynon, where new traffic attracted ~y the ~elboume-Albury standard gauge and working conditions and the lme contmues to outstrip the capacity of failure of this Government to the existing terminal facilities, additional recognize the importance of the rail facilities are being provided . . . way system. Nevertheless, there is The SPEAKER-Order! That has a basic loyalty to railways as such, nothing to do with road transport. and consequently in this union journal there are references to the Mr. STONEHAM.-! submit, Sir, fact that for the year ended June that the transport of interstate goods 30th, 1964, freight on the standard by rail and by means of road trans gauge line increased by more than port are closely associated, and it is 300,000 tons to nearly 1,500,000 tons. difficult to deal with one aspect It is stated that this was an increase without referring to the other. How of 29 per cent. over the previous ever, in deference to your ruling, Mr. year. Freight from over the New Speaker, I shall make only a passing South Wales border to Melbourne in reference to road transport. I feel creased by 186,799 tons to 844,986 that there must be a properly worked tons. In the reverse direction, the out policy of co-ordinated transport tonnage was 553, 706, an increase of so that the facilities that are provided 128,264 tons. by the funds which this Bill seeks to authorize are utilized as fully as In September, 1964, issue of the possible. This can be achieved only publication, Railways of Australia if some of the traffic which is now Network, which is circulated by the passing along the Hume Highway Commissioner of the Commonwealth under deplorable conditions is Railways and the Railways Commis diverted to the railway system. sioners of the States, there is reference in the editorial to the fact At the annual conference of the that in the second year of the opera Australian Railways Union, it was tion of the standard gauge rail link stated that some interstate truck there was an increase of 29 per cent. drivers are resorting to the use of in inter-capital freights over last drugs. In many cases, drivers work year's figures. That justifies some a 70-hour week under all sorts of satisfaction. But side by side with shocking conditions, which are increased traffic on the railways, a criticized, not only by railway most deplorable and shocking situa workers, but also by responsible tion continues to exist on the Hume elements in the road transport Highway. Recently, at the annual industry. conference of the Australian Rail The SPEAKER (Sir William ways Union, a very effective McDonald).-Order! During the reference was made to the conditions debate on the Railway Loan Applica under which the drivers of interstate tion Bill, honorable members are not road transports are employed. In this permitted to conduct an inquiry into regard, I propose to quote from a the working conditions associated report which was published in the with road transport. The subject Sun News-Pictorial on the 8th Octo matter in question is completely ber of this year. divorced from the Bill. 1128 Railway Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill.

Mr. STONEHAM.-Perhaps during demonstrate clearly their ability to tlie debate on the Public Works Loan provide this service, not merely for Application Bill in reference to the the people of Hamilton but also for a Hume Highway, it would be in order much wider district. Action of this for me to raise this question. type would provide a means of The SPEAKER-It is possible that countering the efforts of certain road there is a Bill under which the Leader operators, who irregularly take ad of the Opposition can discuss the vantage of section 92 of the Constitu subject, but he is not permitted to tion by taking their vehicles across do so during the debate on this the border into South Australia measure. before delivering their consignments to the proper addresses in Victoria. Mr. STONEHAM.-! mentioned This is a most important development the matter, Mr. Speaker, because the which the men in the industry have Minister recently intimated-this suggested and, if there is any need for was reported in the press-that he is amended legislation to put beyond just as concerned about the situation doubt the powers of the Railways as are members of the Australian Commissioners to engage in this type Railways Union. I honestly believe of activity, the Government should that the honorable gentleman is co-operate with them to the full in concerned over the matter, and, this regard. possibly, he will inform the House what action the Gov:ernment pro Under sub-item 108 of item 1 of the poses to take to deal with the schedule to the Bill, an amount of problem. £50,000, is sought for staff amenities in depots, workshops, stations, Mr. MEAGHER-A Bill dealing with offices and yards. The explanatory the matter is almost ready for pre memorandum supplied with the Bill s en tati on to Parliament. reads- Mr. STONEHAM.-It is pleasing to This sub-item is to authorize expenditure on a progressive programme of improve hear the Minister's interjection. I ments to staff amenities, including meal and appreciate that a major obstacle, locker rooms, showers, sanitary facilities, namely, section 92 of the Common &c., that is being carried out as rapidly as wealth Constitution, must be over the available funds will permit. come in connexion with this matter. Last year, an amount of £60,000 was The Opposition will welcome the set aside for these purposes, but implementation of any worth-while this was considered to be meagre. legislation which will rectify the In view of the fact that special existing unsatisfactory state of representations have been made by affairs. sections of interested employees con Another matter which the Aus cerning the lack of basic amenities, tralian Railways Union has raised particularly on major construction from time to time is the question of works of a semi-temporary nature-I door-to-door deliveries. Whilst the refer to works on which men are annual report of the Victorian employed, not permanently but for Railways Commissioners refers in considerable periods-the amount of glowing terms to the satis £50,000 is clearly not good enough. If factory increase to date in the volume the Commissioners wish to improve of the interstate traffic handled by the morale and the degree of satis forwarding agents, workers in the faction amongst the staff, it is obvious industry feel that the Railway that a greater effort is required in the Department itself should provide not provision of staff amenities. merely for interstate traffic .but also for intra-state traffic. In your In the midst of the recent vigorous electorate, Mr. Speaker, the centre of controversy concerning derailments, Hamilton would, I imagine, be an ex one of the Railways Commissioners, cellent place for the railways to who had just returned from a visit Railway Loan [28 OCTOBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1129 overseas, struck a very positive note Mr. B. J. EVANS (Gippsland East). when he had the courage to say that -Of all the Government Departments he felt one feature of our railway and instrumentalities which come system was the best in the world. I under discussion in this House, per do not think the Minister of Trans haps the Railway Department is port would have had the temerity to coming in for more criticism more make such a statement. A little while often, and seldom receives very much ago the Premier stated that he in the way of praise. Perhaps this thought the Victorian Railways were state of affairs is brought about by the best railways in the world. How the disinclination of those in auth ever, Mr. E. P. Rogan, a Railways ority in the Railway Department to Commissioner, contented himself by accept the opinions of those people saying that he thought the sleeping who, either by force of Government car service provided in Victoria was regulations and Acts of Parliament or as good as any similar service by reason of their location, isolation provided elsewhere in the world. and lack of alternative means of It was good to see that, upon his transport, are obliged to use the return from overseas, Mr. Rogan was railway services. I believe the so imbued with confidence that he opinions of these people are worthy made a statement of this type. While of consideration and should be given the Opposition has been completely due weight. frank in its criticism of the Govern Consequently, I must enter a pro ment concerning derailments, it is test when I endeavour to put the definitely opposed to the development point of view of the people I am of a psychology that there is not the representing who live in an isolated potential to bring the Victorian Rail part of the State. It is disappointing ways to a state of high efficiency. to hear a railways official say that he The statement made by Mr. Rogan is is tired of hearing members of Par in keeping with what I have in mind. liament trying to attract patronage I trust that the Minister will en away from the railways and into the lighten the House on what the Com hands of the road transport operators. missioners have reported to the Gov On many occasions, I have been criti ernment in regard to the programme cal of the Railway Department and which is unavoidable to bring about also of the transport policy of this the state of affairs that we desire. Government, but I believe I have been I regret that your ruling, Mr. Speaker, constructive in my criticisms. In my has restricted me in focusing atten view, the opinions I have expressed tion more clearly on the fact that the are held by a wide section of the absolutely inexcusable conditions community whom I am endeavouring existing in interstate transport by to represent, and I would be failing road must definitely be ended and in my responsibilities if I did not that one of the major factors in that express those opinions. regard is the diversion of much of that traffic to our railway system. Frequently, the Railways Commis sioners appear to have a " chip on When the schedule to the Bill is their shoulder " or a sort of phobia being considered in Committee, per about taking advice from or heeding haps I shall make reference to par suggestions made by people who use ticular matters, but at this stage I the railway services. To a degree they seek the co-operation of the Minister appear to be unhappy about public in a most constructive way to bring opinion concerning the railways. forward for the benefit of the people Their refusal to acknowledge the of this State a real programme of serious state of affairs brought about transport co-ordination under which by the numerous derailments is an the railways will be permitted to example of this situation. I do not play their proper role. think it is right that this state of 1130 Railway Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill. affairs should continue because there and still applies whereby the saw is a real fear in the minds of the miller is required to deliver a house people that some day there will be lot of timber on to the site, mainly in a major tragedy as a consequence the metropolitan area. I believe I of these derailments. Our luck in can claim that, as a result of my con this regard cannot last forever. tinued representations in this direc tion, the Department saw fit to run a The people would be very much train leaving Orbost at 4 p.m. and re-assured if they knew that the arriving at Melbourne the next Department was viewing this prob morning-a situation which so far as lem seriously and also if they could I can recall never happened before. have an assurance from the Minister that every possible investigation was Apart from the odd passenger train, made to detect the actual causes of we have not previously had late this problem and a real effort was night trains in our part of the State. being made to overcome them. I This conception of having a train do not think anybody is satisfied with leave Orbost at night has completely the statement that the causes of these eliminated the difficulty and has re derailments are numerous. It is not duced considerably the complaints I much satisfaction for anyone who is receive. In addition, this service has injured as a result of a derailment paid handsome dividends to the to be told that the Department Department, with the result that the knows the cause of it. I hope that railway station in Orbost is now one the Department and the Minister will of the highest revenue producing examine this matter much more stations in the State. That is a seriously than they are examining it tribute to the service which the at present. I do not suggest that Department can provide if it really the Minister or the Department is sets its mind to it. ignoring this situation, but I think more evidence must be given to the Recently a suggestion was made- public to demonstrate that the 1 think it was a very good suggestion Department views the matter as one -which would involve little effort by of major importance. the railways but would provide a great benefit to the residents of East If I may, I should like to off er a Gippsland by giving them a better further criticism of the railways, passenger service on a Sunday. namely, that it is not going out There is sitting in the station yard sufficiently after business. It is rely at Maffra every Sunday an unused ing too much on the protection motor train which normally runs afforded to it by Acts of Pa.rliament. from Traralgon to Maffra. The pro If the Department was prepared to posal was that in the morning it go out and offer its services to the should proceed to Bairnsdale, thus community, it could certainly attract giving the residents of Maffra a business. In the past, it has proved chance to travel by train to that city that this can be achieved. and thence by bus to the Lakes During the first few months after Entrance area during the summer my election to Parliament, the major period. I believe such a service topic that I brought to the attention would receive support. It was sug of the House was that of the delivery gested also that in the afternoon the of sawn timber from East Gippsland, train should return to Traralgon via a matter which was causing a good Maffra, thus providing a return deal of concern and dissatisfaction at service from Melbourne to Bairnsdale that time. I maintained that the via Maffra on a Sunday. It was pro Department, instead of relying on its posed that the motor train would re one-third-two-thirds formula, should turn to Maffra from Traralgon after go out and do something about meet the arrival of the Melbourne train ing the situation which was applying from Sale late on Sunday night. · Mr. B. J. Evans. Railway Loan (28 OCTOBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1131

This suggestion was put to the The Commissioners should try out Railways Commissioners, and re this service, if only for six months. cently I received a reply stating that The people have asked only that it investigations had shown there was be given a trial, and it is fair that little prospect of support for such a there should be one during a period service. I am at a loss to understand of the year when the service is most how the Commissioners could carry likely to receive support. This would out such an investigation. How give residents of East Gippsland an would they know in advance whether opportunity to spend a week-end in a service of this nature was likely Melbourne; strange as it may seem, to be supported to any great extent? some people like coming to the city. Quite independently of the sources Moreover, people living in the metro which originally sponsored this idea politan area who might wish to go came a move for a similar proposal to East Gippsland for a week-end to provide a Sunday service linking would be afforded the opportunity of Bairnsdale and Melbourne. Bairns leaving after work on a Friday even dale and the districts beyond have ing and returning on a Sunday even their fair share of students attending ing. A service of this nature could schools, universities, and so forth in well prove to be popular. I hope the the metropolitan area. Many young Minister can persuade the Railways girls train as nurses in metropolitan Commissioners to give further con hospitals, and they often have a sideration to this proposal. It merits week-end off duty but are unable to encouragement, and it could prove to go home because in many cases they be payable. have to be back at an early hour on Another subject I should like to Monday morning, and the Monday touch on is the fencing of railway morning train from Bairnsdale does land. I have previously brought not arrive in the city until 11.15, this matter to the attention of the which is much too late. Minister of Transport because of I have been told on good authority representations made to me on that the Sunday afternoon train numerous occasions by landowners, leaving Sale is patronized by a large some of whom own properties which number of people, who have to drive are divided by a railway line. In the 40-odd miles from Bairnsdale to some instances, up to five miles of connect with it. The Railways Com fencing is involved. When the lines missioners realize that most of these were constructed, doubtless this people buy return tickets from the work was carried out, without any city. Probably they catch the 6.5 argument, by the Government of the p.m. train from Melbourne on the day as part of the responsibility of preceding Friday. providing railway services through Mr. CHRISTIE.-How long does it the different areas. Now the fencing take for the train to travel to Bairns is deteriorating. In some places it dale? is falling down, and stock wander Mr. B. J. EVANS.-lt arrives at on to railway property. Most land about 11.30 p.m. There could be an owners contend that the Railway improvement, but nevertheless it is a Department should bear some of the service; it may arrive a little earlier. responsibility of maintaining the The passengers usually buy return fences. In a reply to a letter I wrote, tickets, and they virtually forgo the the Minister stated on the 16th April return part of their journey between that the Railway Department had a Bairnsdale and Sale. The Railways standard type of fence consisting of Commissioners probably consider six strands of wire, I do not know that by putting on this extra service whether plain or barbed. they would not derive any greater return. Mr. MEAGHER.-lt is plain wire. 1132 Railway Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill.

Mr. B. J. EVANS.-Posts are to undertake the whole of the located at 25-ft. centres with four responsibility. In most cases, droppers to each panel. The Minister probably they would appreciate a added- little assistance in the form of fencing Only along some 100 miles of lines in wire or other materials to help them Victoria, ·mainly in the suburban area, are do this important job. the Commissioners obliged to erect and maintain fencing. Another question which has been I wonder what the fences in the brought to my attention on several metropolitan area are intended to occasions and which, I feel, has re keep out when they consist of only ceived scant consideration from the six strands of plain wire. Such a Railway Department is the illumina fence would not keep out a toddler tion of goods trucks. This problem of any age. It seems futile to erect is viewed too lightly by the Depart that type of fence in the metropolitan ment, and much more serious con area and ignore the fencing problems sideration should be given to it. In in the country. a letter I received from the then Acting Minister of Transport (Mr. Mr. SCANLAN.-Other types of Fraser) dated 9th July, 1963-this is fencing, including paling fences, are going back quite a while-it was used in the metropolitan area. stated that apart from other factors Mr. B. J. EVANS.-The Minister it would not be practicable to locate says in his letter that this is a lights, reflectors or luminous paint standard type of fence and that only strips in such a position that they in the metropolitan area are the would be protected from dust or Commissioners obliged to maintain damage, and where they would not t:he fences. It may be that in the be likely to be concealed by metropolitan area the Railway tarpaulins. Department constructs a much more Anybody who travels along country elaborate type of fence, perhaps roads at night appreciates the effect justifiably. The Minister went on to of road signs which car lights pick say- up from various angles. It is not This statutory obligation is limited to a necessary for such a sign to be few lines built by private enterprise, or square on to an approaching vehicle authorized to be so built, in the earliest railway days of Victoria. in order to reflect light from head lamps. So long as even a small por The later Acts under which the State constructed railways either specifically tion of the beam from a car's head exempt the Department from erecting and lights falls on one of these signs, it maintaining fences, or make no reference shows up quite well. I fail to see that to the matter, and the view is held that, in much difficulty would be encountered the absence of any specific provision to the contrary, the Department is not bound in running a strip of reflective paint to fence. along the side of each railway truck. It would not matter much if in some That is a very convenient way of instances part of the strip was looking at the matter from the point covered by a tarpaulin. If the strip of view of the Railways Commis on every second or third truck sioners, but I consider there is a showed up in a car's headlights, certain moral obligation in this matter. I am sure you, Mr. Speaker, motorists would be made aware that will agree that the cost of maintain a train was across their path. ing fencing is a serious liability for In many cases at railway level landowners and that where the Rail crossings the line is slightly higher way Department is involved more than the general level of the road consideration could be given to the way approaching the crossings. The granting of some form of assistance headlights of an approaching car to landowners. I do not think land shine on the road under the railway owners would expect the Department vehicles, with the result that the Railway Loan [28 OCTOBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1133 train is to all intents and purposes various localities, surely it is fair that invisible to the motorist. For this it should assist in the improvement reason many people get severe frights of inadequate road separation. and upsets. Even if the Minister can produce evidence to show that not Mr. CHRISTIE (Ivanhoe).-lt must many road vehicles run into the be very comforting to the Minister sides of trains, I believe the provision and to the Government to see the of some type of reflective material support the Government is getting in on the sides of trucks would not cost relation to this measure. On read the Department a fortune over a ing this Bill one has a feeling some period of time-I do not expect what of dismay that, although a everything to be done immediately; schedule of works is submitted each this could be a long-range proposal year, one is not quite certain how -and it would provide the motorist much is going to be carried out. We with more protection against the pos do not gain the impression that the sibility of running into the side of a organization has much verve and that goods train. it. is really ~oing ahead with any vigour. I wish to mention several I now wish to refer to the question points particularly. of a railway bridge or viaduct over a roadway. Many such bridges were Sub-item 101 of item No. 1 of the built years ago when the roads were schedule relates to stations, yards, used almost entirely by horses and &c. I wonder why, in relation to this horse-drawn vehicles and when sub-item, which deals with the ex motor vehicles were somewhat of a penditure of £250,000 during the rarity. In those days there was no currency of the Act, the Railways great need for wide spans because the Commissioners or the Department go vehicles using the roads were to the trouble of taking up a whole sufficiently slow for drivers to cope paragraph in the memorandum to with a sharp bend through the piles explain how the sum of £200 is to be of the railway bridge. However, in spent on the purchase of one allot these days of modern motor trans ment. This item is so small that I port, many bridges are not safe be cannot understand the approach. cause of the speed at which the Mr. MEAGHER.-The total expendi vehicles travel along the roads. ture under sub-item No. 101 is Recently, the Tambo Shire Council £250,000, not £200. requested the Railway Department to widen the span of a bridge so that Mr. CHRISTIE.-The memorandum the roadway which passes under explains the expenditure of £200. I neath might be straightened and ren think something could be done even dered safer for road vehicles, but now to make the new Spencer-street the Department declined to contri railway station worthy of this city. bute towards the cost of this work. I do not know whether any provision I point out that it is the Railway is made in this Bill to finish off the Department's responsibility to main parking yards and parking lot. The tain railway bridges and facilities. station building itself, in view of the The local shire council is a little re fact that it was designed in the last luctant to pay the price which the few years, is really a disgrace to a Department demands for this job. I big city. Much time and money was should like the Minister to examine spent on design, but even the tech the possibility of providing some niques used in the construction of assistance to councils for carrying the station are about 30 or 40 years out work on bridges which, I should old. I mention this matter because, say, are in much the same category since the Budget was brought down, as any other type of railway crossing. it is fair game to use Sydney as the If it is fair for the Department to yardstick in comparison with Mel assist with grade separation in bourne. 1134 Railway Loan [ASSEMBLY.] .Application Bill.

Central railway station in Sydney date ten, fifteen or twenty years was built in 1903. Even the old build hence. If a yardstick is required, in ing, which is a landmark, had some 1928 a large international city-Syd attraction because of its design, in ney-built a bridge-one of the the same way as Parliament House largest in the world-and an under is attractive. The refurnishing and ground system in about six years. If rebuilding of the inside of Central a name is to be made for the City of railway station is so much ahead of Melbourne, a job of that magnitude the Spencer-street railway station, should be completed in about five its vestibules, and so on, that that years. station should be examined with a In 1963 a Bill was introduced to view to seeing what can be done at abandon provision for the rate financ Spencer-street. Some improvements ing of the underground railway pro could be carried out on the surrounds ject. Does it mean that the project has and the car park at Spencer-street. been abandoned? If not, how is it to It is most unfortunate that someone be financed, and when is it to be did not think about the exposed built? If it is not to be built in the nature of No. 1 platform. In this next five or six years, then the project climate, the siting of the platform to should be abandoned. With many face the south-west shows a lack of people in Melbourne, I should like to perception. It is a cold, miserable hear more about it. Either Mel place for four or five months of the bourne is to be treated as a large, year, and I think that even at this growing and vital city, or it is to be stage something should be done to reduced-as most Victorians already cover it over, at least at one end. consider it-to the status of a pro I now wish to mention the Mel vincial town. Unless such projects bourne so-called underground rail as freeways and underground railway way. The honorable member for loops Gtre to be constructed in the Moonee Ponds mentioned this pro next five or six years, Melbourne will ject in 1961. I recall vividly that, simply be like a congested country looking at the amount which was town. then set aside for this purpose, the honorable member said, " If we go I know of the problems of the on in this fashion, it will be a Minister-we all do-but it is not thousand years before the under good enough to say that things ground railway is constructed." Pro cannot be done because there is no vision is made in this Bill for the money. The only attitude to be expenditure of a further £50,000 on adopted is to decide what is wanted, planning and investigation. No sug what should be done, and then go gestion is made about the commence ahead and tell the people about it ment of construction. The honorable explain it quietly to them; do not hit member for Moonee Ponds was prob them with it suddenly-and then ably a little out in his estimation; it proceed to carry out the works. If will probably be only 998 years before Melbourne is to emerge from a town the underground railway is construc to a city, the underground railway ted. I believe the Minister, who is should be completed and all these held back possibly by the Treasury large projects like freeways and high or by Treasury policy, should state ways should be constructed soon and whether or not this underground loop fast. will be built, because there is so much Mr. SCANLAN (Oakleigh).-On uncertainty about it. So many people behalf of the community at Oakleigh believe it will never be constructed I wish to express to the Minister of that some statement of policy is Transport, their appreciation that this needed. I hope that if the Minister Bill contains specific reference to an does make a statement, and if the over-pass to be constructed in underground is to be built, we shall Warrigal-road, Oakleigh. The City of not be content with a construction Oakleigh is prepared to play its part Mr. Christie. Railway Loan [28 OCTOBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1135 in the construction of this project, at the south-eastern corner of the and will abide by the decision of the project. The committee believed that Government. this was essentially land required for The Oakleigh City Council has ex municipal improvement, and conse press·ed concern at several amend quently the committee should not be ments incorporated in the 65th responsible for it. As the original interim report of the Inter-depart plan for an over-pass would have mental Committee on the Abolition blocked Carlisle-crescent and Haugh of Level Crossings, which estimates ton-road, the Oakleigh council sug the cost of this structure at £900,000. gested that a connexion be provided The cost of the proJect is to be borne for these streets. I am pleased to in the proportions of the Level note that the 65th interim report of Crossings Fund, 30 per cent.; the the Inter-departmental Committee on Country Roads Board, 45 per cent.; the Abolition of Level Crossings and the Victorian Railways, 25 per makes provision for this connexion. cent. The Railway Loan Application The amendment will be welcomed by Bill makes specific provision for an the citizens of Oakleigh. expenditure of £25,000 for the next The committee will also consider twelve months, which, based on the the council's submissions in relation formula I have just mentioned, to the placing of median strips in the amounts to a total expenditure of area. However, as the Oakleigh City £100,000. Council is concerned with other The Inter-departmental Committee aspects of this project. Mr. Keogh, on the Abolition of Level Cros the city engineer, who is well sings considered submissions of the respected within the engineering pro Oakleigh council. The project as fession, has suggested that the originally planned envisaged an open Government should hold in abeyance ing to be provided under the grade final approval for the plans which separation structure in Warrigal have now been released. I ask the road, with access from Chester-street Minister to recommend to the com and Portman-street at a point mittee that it heed the words of Mr. opposite Chester-street. The council Keogh. considered that provision for this The Oakleigh City Council has opening should have been made raised a number of objections in this farther along, opposite Chester-street. regard, which I shall proceed to It also suggested that a bus terminal explain. First, the city engineer and should be provided some distance the municipality of Oakleigh are from the railway station, and that concerned that the Government has access to the station be provided for not undertaken to acquire more land bus passengers by means of a covered on the north-eastern approach to the way. This proposal was rejected by over-pass. To enable honorable the committee on the grounds that members to understand the posi bus travellers should not be incon tion, I inform them that at venienced by being required to walk present the north-eastern aspect long distances to the railway station, of the over-pass is an area which is, and that the provision of an alterna in effect, the front door of the retail tive opening under the bridge as centre of Oakleigh, but because egress from Portman-street and properties have been compulsorily Chester-street at the locations sug acquired at this point over several gested by the council would not give years the building line has depre sufficient headroom for vehicles to ciated. In fact, most of the buildings pass under the structure. have been condemned and are empty, The Oakleigh City Council also and even when they are demolished expressed concern at the original it will mean the opening up of a right proposal to sell land already ac of-way at the rear, which at one point quired but not required, af!er co~ is fronted by a motor car yard and at pletion of the over-pass. This land 1s another by a dispensary and a hall. U36 Railway Loan (ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill.

The council feels that this main bus stops which are provided at approach to the city will be very Warrigal-road on either side of the poor. Furthermore, both the council gates are used by the bus lines as a and the city engineer have expressed place where they may stand for fifteen concern that Jones-street, which will minutes or so to make up their connect through to Portman-street or schedules. In the proposition advo Chester-street in the plan submitted cated by the inter-departmental com by the Government, is envisaged as mittee the two bus stops to be pro a one-way street. As this is the vided on the over-pass will be major inlet or access to the shopping sufficiently large to hold only one centre for those people who wish bus each. This will mean that the to purchase goods in Oakleigh, and buses will have to move out soon as one-fifth of the shoppers come after arrival, and it will not be from an area west of Warrigal-road possible for them to stand there to and south of the railway line, the enable persons alighting from trains shoppers will have to find a different to join them, or for the bus operators outlet. They will not be able to to maintain their time-tables with move away from the shopping centre any degree of accuracy. by travelling the way they gained access. So, in egress from the Thirdly, the Oakleigh City Council shopping centre, the majority of has expressed concern at the parking shoppers will have to proceed in provisions made in the scheme. At their cars up Warrigal-road, on which present the area around the Oakleigh there is heavy traffic, and perform railway gates is large enough to en a U-turn before proceeding south able the parking of 131 vehicles. It over the over-pass. This matter is has been estimated that, under the causing concern to the city engineer present proposition of the inter and the Oakleigh council. They departmental committee, parking have requested that further con bays will be provided for 84 vehicles. sideration be given to this point by The proposition advanced by the the Inter-departmental Committee for council, which has not been accepted the Abolition of Level Crossings. by the joint committee, is that bays One solution would be to make Jones be provided for 109 cars. Thus the street sufficiently wide to carry traffic net loss to the city parking space will in both directions. be 47 bays. Based on the estimated current cost of providing parking lots A further point with which the in Oakleigh, which ranges from £330 municipality is concerned is the fact to £600, it would cost the council the that on the south-eastern aspect of sum of £28,200 to acquire properties the bridge there is a small reserve to provide for additional parking for known as the Johnston reserve which 47 vehicles. The council feels that at present is parkland. This is the the joint departmental committee area in which the Government has which has prepared the plan should give deeper consideration to this indicated that it is prepared to question of parking space in relation dispose of the land that it has to the projected over-pass. acquired, plus the Johnston reserve, upon completion of the scheme. The The city engineer has suggested council has objected to the depart that plans for the over-pass be defer mental proposition on this point be red for four or five weeks pending cause it feels that this land should further discussions with the engineers be used for a terminal for the buses responsible for the design of the pro which at present terminate their posed bridge. I am hopeful that the routes from the western and southern Minister will accede to this request. suburbs at the Oakleigh railway It must be borne in mind that the station. A large number of buses criticism of the present scheme by link up with the Oakleigh railway the city engineer is based on his station at this point. At present the position in his municipality. His Mr. Scanlan. Railway Loan [28 OCTOBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1137 stand is well expressed in a letter nothing outstanding can be expected which I received from him. He says, in the next twelve months by way inter alia- of improved facilities for the rail I believe it is also fair to say that they ways. The sum of £250,000 is to be generally agreed that it would be a most provided for stations, offices, yards desirable set of circumstances if in the and works, &c.-the same amount as examination of any of these projects it could be considered that the community was provided for the similar item in surrounding the project was no worse off the schedule last year. The second after the project was completed than they item on this year's schedule provides were before. £50,000 for accommodation of loco In my view, this should be one of the motives, carriages, wagons, and so principles that guide Government on, and again it is the same sum as Departments in the construction of was voted last year. The third item such schemes, regardless of their in the schedule, covering mechanical location in the State. This principle and electrical signalling, allocates has guided the Oakleigh city engineer £350,000, which is an increa.se on the and members of the Oakleigh council, amount provided last year. who have expressed some concern The sum of £150,000 is to be pro along the lines I have covered in this vided for improvement of level debate. Although I have expressed crossings, including the provision of their concern on certain aspects of road access, and that expenditure is the proposed grade separation pro £10,000 less than last year's alloca ject, and even perhaps criticism of tion. The amount of money provided the scheme that has been accepted should be greater because it is becom by the Government for this area, I ing increasingly evident that in the wish to make it abundantly clear to metropolitan area this type of work the Government that the community should be speeded up as there is of Oakleigh welcomes this scheme great need to replace antiquated and is prepared to see it put into hand-operated gates with boom effect. The people of Oakleigh want barrier crossings. I believe the the over-pass and are thankful that Department is doing the best it can the Government has seen fit to ex to meet the demand in order to cope pend the sum of £900,000 on this pro with the volume of traffic on the ject. Any criticism that there may roads to-day, but a much greater be of the scheme is on minor points financial allocation is needed. Boom rather than major ones, but, neverthe barriers greatly expedite the flow of less, I believe these minor points traffic and are far easier to operate are important enough to warrant from a railway point of view. I study and dire consideration before should imagine also that they are less the scheme is commenced. costly to operate than the old type Mr. WILKES (Northcote).-My which requires the services of a gate contribution to this Railway Loan keeper, yet some of these old gates Application Bill will be brief. The are still in use within 4 miles of the proposed expenditure of £11,500,000 centre of the city. is exactly the same as that allocated Mr. MEAGHER.-That is so, but it last year. is only possible to effect a change in Mr. MEAGHER.-That was for places where there is automatic expenditure over approximately signalling gear. eighteen months. Mr. WILKES.-That may be the Mr. WILKES.-1 have not been technical answer, but in this day and able to obtain copies of Bills for age steps should be taken to remove previous years, but the comparison as quickly as possible these anti between this year's proposed ex quated gates and replace them with penditure and that sought in last boom barriers-not mechanically year's legislation indicates to me that operated gates. I have been given 1138 Railway Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill.

a 1962 Railway Loan Application Bill People wishing to travel to Reser and notice that it provided for an voir and stations beyond, such as expenditure of £11,000,000, so this Keon Park, Ruthven, Lalor, and year's legislation provides for an Thomastown, find that the railways increase of only £500,000 in the ex are the only means of public trans penditure approved two years ago. port available. Yet they are reluctant I do not intend to go through each to travel by train while the Depart item and point out the differences in ment uses the older type carriages on expenditure over past years or to dis the line, and in this measure I can see cuss whether the Department is being no hope for any relief from this state provided with more or less money of affairs within the next twelve than formerly, but I do suggest that months unless the Minister has some if honorable members examine the information which is not contained schedule they will see that there is in the Bill or in the schedule. a great similarity between the pro I have brought to the notice of the posed expenditure on items in the Department the condition of some schedule and the expenditure pro stations in the metropolitan area, and vided in previous loan application I acknowledge that the Department Bills. There are fewer examples of endeavours to act wherever possible. increases of expenditure than there If people are to be attracted to re are items showing decreases as turn to train travel, the railways compared with previous years. must make these dilapidated stations Perhaps this is the reason why so a little more attractive. Better many complaints emanate from rate facilities must be provided to en payers and municipalities. courage people to travel by train. In the northern suburbs, we With a turnover of £43,000,000 the consider that the rolling-stock used Railway Department is the largest for passenger services is badly out of public utility in Victoria, and I often date, although I am sure that the wonder why greater efforts are not Minister will say that it is being re made by the Department to improve placed as quickly as possible by the small things in order to encourage new Harris-type trains. Neverthe people to use the railways. In re less, there is still a predominance of gard to passenger travel, the Rail the old dog-box type carriages in use ways Commissioners point out in on the northern lines. We do not their report- expect miracles from the Department By comparison with 1961-62, country and interstate traffic increased by 7.3 per cent. and we shall have to console our to a total of 5,139,646 journeys but subur selves with the fact that because no ban traffic, totalling 147,586,991 journeys, extra money is to be made available was practically unchanged. this year for this specific purpose, The Commissioners further it will be necessary to put up with stated- carriages 80 and 90 years old for at During the past fifteen years, the exten least another twelve months-per sive development of outer suburban areas, particularly to the north, east and south haps longer. The type of carriages east of Melbourne, has been reflected in the used on the suburban network is of steadily increasing length of the average more importance these days because distance travelled by suburban passengers. of the policy not to man certain An examination of a table in the stations at night. There is some de annual report indicates the changing gree of safety for passengers travel trend so far as suburban rail travel ling in the Harris-type trains against is concerned to-day. For instance, in molestation by undesirables. That is 1948-49, the passenger journeys from not available to them when travelling stations situated up to 3 miles from in the old dog-box type carriages. Melbourne represented 10.34 per cent. This deters young people from using of the total suburban passenger jour the trains during night-time, so the neys; in 1954-55, the figures decrea sooner the railways do away with sed to 8.97 per cent. and in 1962-63- these old carriages the better. the year for which the la test figures Mr. Wilkes. Railway Loan [28 OCTOBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1139 are available-the percentage had and for 1962-63, 21.41 per cent. It further decreased to 7. 77 per cent. may confidently be expected that, At stations situated from 3 to 6 miles when the next annual report of the from Melbourne, bookings in 1948- Railways Commissioners is released, 49 represented 26.87 per cent. of the the percentage of passenger journeys total suburban bookings; in 1954-55, from outer suburban stations will the percentage had decreased to have further increased. 21.51 per cent., and, in 1962-63, the number of bookings was still declin It is obvious that the farther a ing, the appropriate percentage being station is situated from Melbourne, only 18.78 per cent. the more likely are the local residents to patronize the railway system, and For stations situated farther from this tendency is increasing because Melbourne-for example, from 6 to 9 of the extension and development miles away-the decline in bookings that is taking place in outer suburban is not so pronounced. The bookings areas. This emphasizes the need for from stations situated from 9 to 12 providing not only adequate facili miles from the city have increased ties, but also a greater incentive for during the relevant period. In other people who live within 3 to 6 miles words, more passengers are patroniz of Melbourne to revert to the practice ing the railway service from outer of travelling by train. An examina suburban areas because no other tion of the statistics for the year form of public transport is available. I 1949-50, which was the peak year, shall quote the full range of statistics is interesting. in order that honorable members will Mr. WILTSHIRE.-You could not have a clear understanding of the buy a motor car at that time. situation. At stations situated from 6 to 9 miles from Melbourne, the Mr. WILKES.-Certainly, in passenger bookings in 1948-49 repre 1949-50, there were not 1,000,000 sented 29.11 per cent. of the total motor cars on the Victorian roads, suburban bookings; in 1954-55, the but there was a large number of percentage dropped to 28.07 per cent.; motor cars in use. We were still in and, in 1962-63, there was a further a period of prosperity in 1949-50, decline in the number of bookings so although undoubtedly there were that the relevant figure was 24.77 then fewer cars on the roads than per cent. there are to-day. It will be noted that the decline Mr. MEAGHER. - Petrol was in patronage of the railway system rationed at about that time. has persisted even in connexion with Mr. WILKES.-1 remind the stations located from 6 to 9 miles Minister that in 1949, petrol ration from Melbourne. However, for sta ing had ceased; the restrictions were tions situated beyond 9 miles from lifted in that year. The year 1949-50 Melbourne, the opposite effect is ap was a peak year for passenger rail parent from an examination of the travel in Victoria. Both the Railway statistics. At stations located from Department and the Government 9 to 12 miles from Melbourne, book must undertake some forward plan ings in 1948-49 represented 12.74 per ning and thinking with a view to cent. of the total suburban passenger inducing people, who live within 6 journeys; this figure had increased to or 9 miles of the city, once again to 17.13 per cent. in 1954-55, and to patronize the railway system. 18.47 per cent. in 1962-63. For sta tions located more than 12 miles All honorable members know that from Melbourne, the relevant because of congestion on the roads statistics reveal that of the and the inadequacy of parking facili total suburban bookings, the per ties, motorists find it increasingly centage for 1948-49 was 10.57 per difficult to drive a motor car into cent., for 1954-55, 15.98 per cent., the city. I am sure that if the rail 1140 Railway Loan [ASSEMBLY.] .A. pplication Bill. services were improved, more modern honorable members were to travel carriages-the Harris type carriages around the northern suburbs to-day, would be eminently suitable-were they would see areas of railway land provided, and timetables were being used for a multiplicity of pur speeded up, more people would poses, including used and new car travel by train. These problems yards and store yards, and, on some have been faced in other countries areas, old dilapidated buildings and throughout the world. Because heaps of screenings and other there is insufficient money with materials may be seen. In some which to build freeways for motor instances service stations have been vehicles, it is necessary to provide erected on railway land; at Thomas some alternative means of transport town, there is either one or two service to convey people to the city area, or stations on railway property, and I to their places of employment, in the am reminded by interjection that a quickest and cheapest way. The rail similar situation exists at Heath ways should provide this service, and mont. it is the responsibilty of the Minister of Transport and the Railway Depart I am not conversant with the con ment to find ways and means of ditions of the leasing of railway land, arresting the decline in passenger but I hope adequate safeguards have travel in the metropolitan area and, been taken to ensure that should the more particularly, from stations with Department require to utilize the in 9 miles of the city. land for its own purposes at some future time, this could be done. I I believe that with suitable plan do not suggest that railway land ning, the existing situation could be should be allowed to remain sterile, improved, although the Minister may although in many instances it could disagree with me. If railway stations be used or leased for better purposes were made more attractive, if ameni·· than those for which it is being used ties and additional facilities were or leased to-day. Other Government provided, if timetables were im Departments, such as the Housing proved, and if rolling-stock were Commission, often seek assistance modernized, many more people would from municipalities by way of grants be induced to patronize the railway of land. In fact, municipalities have service. Some municipalities have, always been willing to " come to the with the assistance and permission party" and co-operate with the of the Railway Department, provided Government and the Housing Com parking facilities to enable people to mission in this regard, and I suggest travel by car to suburban railway to the Minister of Transport that stations and to complete their many areas of railway land-I could journeys to the city by rail. Action suggest them more specifically to the of this type has been taken in the honorable gentleman-could be used Ringwood electorate. It is a sensible for public purposes. approach to the problem. However, further action along these lines is The Northcote council recently necessary. made inquiries concerning the use of an area of railway land, but I fear During a recent visit to Reservoir, that the council's approach to the I noticed a large number of motor Railway Department is analogous to cars parked alongside the railway a person battering his head against a station. No doubt, the owners had brick wall. There may be some parked their vehicles at the station reason why the Department does not and travelled to the city by train. wish to co-operate in this regard Railway land has been used for a ! do not wish to be so intolerable number of purposes, but I consider that I do not recognize the possi more land should be made available bility-but if there is a reason, honor to enable motor vehicles to be parked able members should know what adjacent to suburban stations. If it is. Mr. Wilkes. Railway Loan (28 OCTOBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1141

Mr. MEAGHER.-You could try ask The council is of opinion that the provi sion of a pedestrian crossing is justified, ing me about it. and would be pleased if you will support Mr. WILKES.-Often, it is easier the proposal. to approach the Department rather I cannot find the letter I received than worry the Minister with these from the Department. matters. Many honorable members follow this practice rather than worry Mr. PoRTER.----The honorable mem the overworked Minister, and there ber seems to write a lot of letters. is no doubt that the Minister of Mr. WILKES.-Because of the Transport in this State is overworked. situation that exists in regard to rail In addition, he has only £11,500,000 way crossings and stations in North to spend on the railways this year, cote, it is necessary for both the which is the same amount as was council and me to correspond allocated last year and only £500,000 frequently with the Department, and more than the amount which was I might add that we get a great deal allocated in the year before that. of satisfaction from the Department. I regret that the Minister and his I hope the day will never come when Department did not see fit to accede councils will fall down on their job to the request of the Northcote City of looking after the interest of the Council in respect of a pedestrian ratepayers. crossing over the Heidelberg railway Mr. PoRTER.-The honorable mem line, opposite Simpson-street, North ber would really like a crossing on cote. Both the council and I wrote every street. to the Department on this matter. We wanted a crossing in this area Mr. WILKES.-That is a ridiculous which could be used by the children suggestion, and there would be no attending the Westgarth Central reason for a crossing on every street. School. These children and other I am complaining because only the pedestrians are climbing through the same amount of money as was fence at the present time because it provided last year has been allocated is a natural place to cross the line. to the Department this year, and the It is practically impossible to Government would not have enough encourage the children to walk 150 money to put a crossing on every yards to the nearest crossing. There street. The Department's letter to is also a shopping centre on one side me concerning the crossing at Simp of the line. The letter I received son-street stated that if the council from the Northcote City Council in was prepared to pay the cost of the relation to this matter stated- installation of the crossing the De partment would prepare the plans. It would be appreciated by my council if you will bring to the notice of the Minister Mr. LOXTON .-Is it just a crossing of Transport the need for a pedestrian crossing over the Heidelberg railway line over the railway line? at a point opposite Simpson-street, North Mr. WILKES.-Yes, a pedestrian cote. crossing and a couple of gates. Coun The council considers that such crossing would be a great convenience to persons cils should not be expected to provide who desire to shop in Simpson-street or these facilities, and I am sure that if attend the Baptist church and Sunday the Minister inspected the location school, while it would also be used by he would take a different view from children attending the Westgarth Central Sch0ol in Clarke-street. that conveyed to me by the Depart Although it may be suggested that the ment. I think honorable members pedestrian subway at the Dennis station is generally will agree that the Minister in close proximity, there is always some is very much alive to the situation, reluctance on the part of adults and and so I was surprised to receive that children to use it. Consequently, they seek a more direct route and often cross the reply from the Department. The line opposite Simpson-street by climbing council has not the money with which through fences. to take over the functions of the 1142 Railway Loan · [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill.

Railway Department, and it will be Commissioners have decided on a most grateful if the Minister will good location. It is in a rapidly re-examine the position. developing area, and it will meet the needs of a great number of heavy During this debate a great deal could be said about interstate rail industries in the Springvale-Dande transport, how it has improved and nong district. how it could be improved, but suffice It is no secret that much develop it to say that the Department has ment is about to take place in this improved the service so that there area. For instance, the Volkswagen is now a continuity and blending of company is to spend an additional timetables for interstate travellers. £20,000,000 on extensions to its fac A reference to the report of the Com tory. I have visited the Volkswagen missioners confirms that view. works at Wolsburg, in Germany, where 5,000 cars a day are manu Much has been said in the news factured, and nearly all of them are papers yesterday and to-day concern transported by rail to shipping ports ing the proposed reduction in off-peak for export to other countries. I period fares and charges for periodi consider that if the railways in this cal tickets. I am not relying greatly country provided sufficient trains to on the reports, but I saw no reference accommodate the motor industry, to any proposal to reduce Sunday large numbers of vehicles could be excursion and concession fares. transported in this way. General Sunday excursions to the country Motors-Holden's Proprietary Limited are an important facet of railway transports car bodies from South operations and, when one considers Australia, and a number of other the number of families which avail similar movements take place. If themselves of this facility to travel there were a standard gauge railway to the country on a Sunday, one up the eastern coast of Australia, would be most surprised if the Gov many more cars could be transported ernment did not give consideration by rail. to bringing these fares back to what they were prior to the increases, The establishment of a goods sid particularly if the Government pro ing at Westall will provide some poses to reduce off-peak fares and the relief at the Springvale level crossing. cost of periodical tickets. It would The position is bad enough there be a great pity if these excursion when the gates are closed for fares were overlooked. If the Gov passenger and freight trains, but it ernment is anxious to meet the sug is greatly aggravated when shunting gestion that fares be reduced, I hope occurs, as it often does, during the it will give consideration to reducing day. A shunt takes place between these week-end excursion fares. Mem 11 a.m. and 12 noon, and the gates bers of the Opposition raise no objec are closed for any period from eight tion to the Bill as a whole, and trust to eleven minutes. I do not need to that it will have a speedy passage. emphasize the congestion that occurs on either side of the line. In The sitting was suspended at 6.29 many instances, traffic banks up for p.m. until 7.55 p.m. half a mile in each direction. Mr. L. S. REID (Dandenong). The establishment of a goods sid Sub-item 130 of item No. 1 of the ing at Westall will enable the Rail schedule provides for the expendi way Department to do away with ture of £40,000 during the current the goods siding at Springvale, and financial year on the provision of a thousands of motorists who travel goods siding at Westall, the total along Springvale-road daily will estimated cost of which is £120,000. welcome the elimination of delays I should like to see more money caused by shunting trains. Boom spent on this goods siding, because gates are to be installed at Spring it is urgently needed. The Railways vale and, with a siding at Westall, Railway Loan [28 OCTOBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1143 they will enable a speed-up of traffic. consideration because level crossing Of course, this is only a short-term accidents occur frequently. I raise measure. Ultimately, an over-pass this matter once more in the hope or an under-pass must be provided at that something may be done about this very busy intersection, and I level crossings because this question bring this matter to the notice of concerns all of us. tlie Minister. Mr. LOVEGROVE (Fitzroy).-! re I should like also to touch on the late my remarks to sub-item 101 of subject of railway stations in this item No. 1 of the schedule, which vicinity. I have led deputations to deals with stations, and shall refer to the Minister's predecessor regarding the Minister's statement regarding the establishment of new railway the reconstruction of Spencer-street stations, including one at Yarraman, station; to sub-item 104, which between Dandenong and Noble Park. relates to lines; and to sub-item 108, For 30 years representations have which deals with staff amenities. been made in favour of a new station On the question of stations, I there. Well before the war, Sir understand that at Spencer-street Harold Clapp inspected a possible station in an opening off the Collins site, but the local residents are still street concourse, just past where the waiting for the station to be con old ticket windows used to be, there structed. Another railway station is is a tin shed which is used for storing urgently needed at Sandown, a fumigators. On this shed is a sign rapidly developing area between which reads " Fumigators-Danger Springvale and Noble Park. The new Poison." The shed is locked and the Sandown racecourse will open next windows are covered with wire year, and a railway station there netting. According to the Australian would serve a dual purpose. Railways Union, the contents of the shed include cyanide pellets and I direct the attention of the Minis other equipment. The union became ter of Transport to the fact that level interested in the shed because some crossing accidents are continually of the men used to have their lunch occurring. Only two or three days in the portion of the shed which was ago there was such an accident, in used for the storing of fumigators. which three persons were killed. About six months ago, following the Many level crossing accidents could hearing of a workers compensation be avoided, and far more should be case, union representatives inspected done about them. The number of the shed because a man who died had road accidents at busy intersections been handling poisons. After this has decreased because of the use of inspection, the Department's atten roundabouts. I have raised this tion was drawn to the matter, with matter previously, and see no reason the result that the men were directed why roundabouts should not be built to eat in another portion of the shed at dangerous level crossings. I have away from the arsenic and cyanide several reasons for advancing this pellets. On behalf of the union, I suggestion. Naturally, a roundabout submit that, in the interests of safety, would make the driver of a vehicle and having regard to the fact that pass through 180 degrees before he entry to the shed could be readily crossed the railway line, and in doing gained through the window by any so he would be in a position more person who so desired and who knew readily to observe whether the track its contents, a better system of stor was clear. He would also be aware ing poisons and fumigators should be whether it was a double track or a implemented by the Department. I single track. But most importantly, examined this shed several weeks the roundabout would slow him down ago. I understand that representa and make him more aware that he tions have been made to the Minister was approaching a railway level of Transport, who is probably aware crossing. This matter should receive of the details. 1144 Railway Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill.

In regard to sub-item 104, which This means to say that roads 5 and 6 were missed out on the heavier railing and deals with lines, I wish to refer to a still remain with the present railing that motion for the adjournment of the went right through to Outtrim. The 60-lb. House which was moved by the railing still remains in the yard to-day. Leader of the Opposition on 14th As the modern trend has changed since October, this year, in connexion with then, the traffic has increased over the years. The locomotive fleet has also train derailments. In the course of changed from the old steam hauled to a that debate, I made available to the modern diesel fleet to cope with demands. Minister a photograph of some points Shunting in the Korumburra yard at the at Korumburra. Portion of my present time causes great havoc when shunting with such engines. Stationed speech in support of the motion is at Korumburra is one R-class loco reported at page 847 of Hansard for motive which causes a great deal of the current session as follows: - havoc over the small 60-lb. rails. Until It is a photograph of a points derailment recently every Monday morning the 12.50 that occurred recently in Korumburra a.m. paper train Melbourne to Korumburra where, despite the fact that the points had was generally hauled by a B-class loco. been cleaned in preparation for replacement, This also caused a great havoc over the and everything was in readiness for the small rails which would groan and squeak repair gang to do the job to make the track at the weight of these engines. safe, when another derailment occurred Marshalling of trains to-day has caused members of the track gang were rushed a greater havoc and could prove dangerous away to deal with that mishap, and the since the special gang who came to do a Korumburra tracks were left in a dangerous job were one week later instructed state. The men who were working that to go to Nowa Nowa and would night in the area concerned were left in a be at least six to nine months before perilous state; they were left in a death-trap. returning. Their job was to install new points and cross-overs from Nos. 5 and 6 At that stage the Minister had roads. All that was done was that from the already taken part in the debate and hand throw points in No. 6 road to points and cross overs in No. 5 road the dirt and did not have the opportunity to re rubbish was just cleaned out between the ply to my remarks. However, the sleepers and nothing more done since. This honorable member for Ormond, in took place at least four months ago. Since replying to my contribution, is re the continual rains this has become a great hazard as at the present time the sleepers ported at page 851 of the current are sitting or floating in water, and if we Hansard as having said- have a week or two of fine weather the The Deputy Leader of the Opposition sleepers are sitting or floating on air. referred to a crossing at Korumburra. I At the present time this yard, outside the am informed that in that area eight Melbourne Yard, would be the most unsafe shunters are employed, that there are at shunting yard in Victoria. least 400 movements each day in the shunt As there was a derailment over this part ing area, and that the area itself is re of the yard not so long ago, the finer points garded as being completely safe. I hope of packing material have since come out. that is sufficient answer for the Deputy When attention was given to work on points Leader of the Opposition. from No. 5 to No. 4, instead of ballast packing under sleepers, it was noticed that In view of the conflict of opinion on there were pieces of timber used to assist this matter, I wish to read an opinion in raising of points and not a skerrick of from a person concerned with the ballast used. actual crossing which I am told is " S~errick " is a colloquial expression represented in the photograph to with which I am sure the Minister which I referred. The opinion is as of Transport is familiar. It means follows:- there was no ballast used- As records acquaint us, the line to Yarram Another of W. and W. suicide traps is was placed down at Korumburra in the late chat, when walking across the roads to 19th century, and in the early 20th century throw over points, there are survey pegs the line was laid down out to Outtrim. spaced from the points leading from No. 4 Many changes have taken place since the to No. 6 road. If a member of the shunting time when the Korumburra yard was laid staff on either early or night shift should down as a marshalling yard. As traffic trip, it would result in a nasty accident. increased the strength of the rails increased Because of the apparent conflict be at Korumburra, thus making the line from tween the technical advice given to Outtrim to Korumburra of a heavier weight, but this was only done in No. 4 road, right the honorable member for Ormond through to the up end of the yard. ! have no doubt it was used by him Mr. Lovegrove. Railway Loan (28 OCTOBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1145 in good faith-and the technical Staff Award 1960, C. No. 457 advice proffered to the Opposition, I of 1964. The application was made ask the Minister of Transport to by the Australian Railways Union to investigate the allegations contained vary those awards relating to the in the opinion I have just read. provision of amenities in the Vic Mr. MEAGHER.-Whose opinion torian Railways. Mr. E. J. Stani A. was it? street and Mr. J. Cregan appeared for the Australian Railways Union, Mr. LOVEGROVE.-1 am sorry and Mr. B. L. Rodda appeared for that I cannot name the person con the Victorian Railways Commis cerned. I understand he is in the sioners. The submission of Mr. employ of the railways and for a Rodda for the Victorian Railways number of years has been familiar was upheld by the Senior Concilia with the difficulties in the Korum tion Commissioner. burra yards. I make it plain I am not suggesting I relate my remarks to item 108 that in upholding the submission of concerning staff amenities in depots, the Railway Department, Mr. Taylor workshops, stations, offices and made a wrong decision. As reported yards. There are quite a number of at page 2 of the transcript of pro special works being carried out by ceedings, Mr. Rodda stated- the Railway Department. New sta If the Commission pleases, I desire, if I tions and over-passes have been pro may, to make an initial statement in this vided at Epping, Lalor, Gowrie, and matter. What I want to say is in con other similar projects are being nexion with something that I feel is a mat undertaken which involves the ter proper to be brought before you at this stage rather than at the completion employment of many artisans and of Mr. Stanistreet's case, because of the labourers. Paragraph (b) of the possible effect of what I have to say on the Miscellaneous Provisions of the Rail presentation of his case. ways Metal Trades Award provides- The matter I want to raise is a matter that has been raised on many occasions The Commissioners shall provide proper before you in relation to applications to washing and sanitary conveniences at a vary, as these applications are, and what suitable place, including a separate locker we seek to have established prior to the for each employee. commencement of this case is: What is I understand that the Australian Rail the scope proposed or what are the limita ways Union has been placed in the tions, if any, that the applicant is confined to in presenting the case for amenities. We legal position where, because its latest do, not deny, of course, that there is ambit award containing this clause was for the application, but of course the log made in 1960, and was a consolida of claims from which the ambit arises ex tion of the award, it has been held pired with the making of the two current awards-that is the Railways Miscellaneous that to get an alteration to that Grades Award and the Traffic Permanent clause, it must show a change of cir Way and Signalling Wages Staff Award. cumstances, or create a dispute by taking the necessary legal or other By way of explanation, by " ambit " procedures in two States, as required is meant the practice of an applicant by the rules and practices of the for the variation of an award before Conciliation and Arbitration Commis the Arbitration Commission to ask sion. for more than he desires at that time in order that, during the hearing This matter was argued on an as no doubt you are aware, Mr. application before Senior Commis Speaker, from your experience with sioner J. E. Taylor of the Common the Australian Workers' Union-- wealth Conciliation and Arbitration Commission on 15th October, 1964, The SPEAKER (Sir William in the matter of the Railways Mis McDonald).-Order! I realize that cellaneous Grades Award 1960, C. sub-item 108 proposes to provide No. 454 of 1964; and in the £50,000 for staff amenities. I matter of the Railways Traffic Per seek the advice of the Deputy manent Way and Signalling Wages Leader of the Opposition, because he 1146 Railway Loan [ASSEMBLY.] .Application Bill. has had wide experience in these not so new and not so fast. With matters, whether he is justified in due respect to the delicacy of the searching through his case in detail subject, I shall coin a word. The in order to discuss this item. spoilage from trains is distributed Mr. LOVEGROVE.-1 am flattered, along the tracks as the train goes by Sir, that you have sought my advice. and the men who have the job of I submit with the greatest respect re-laying or repairing the tracks or that, as sub-item 108 relates to staff adjusting the ballast-including the amenities in depots, workshops, sta special gangs of whom recently the tions, offices and yards, there should Minister spoke so proudly-are sub be included certain staff amenities jected, under present-day conditions, similar to those for which provision to all kinds of inconvenience and is made in the Railways Metal Trades work of a description which, in the Award. submission of the Opposition, and the union, they should not be subjected Mr. BOLTE.-A bit like the black to. smiths' union at General-Motors Holden's? Having made those remarks, I leave the rest to the imagination of Mr. LOVEGROVE.-The Premier honorable members. In our view, should not get into any more trouble although the Commissioner, possibly to-night. As the Bill provides for in accordance with the principles capital expenditure, I am entitled to underlying the conciliation and arbi submit the reasons why the Railway tration system in Australia, has re Department should provide these fused to deal with this case at the amenities. present time, and has thereby placed The SPEAKER-Order! The on the union the responsibility of Deputy Leader of the Opposition can creating a dispute or showing make his point without such great changed circumstances, this attitude detail. should be abandoned because of the Mr. LOVEGROVE.-Mr. Speaker, I unanswerable logic of the men's am grateful for your guidance. I shall claim. The Railways Commissioners endeavour to cut a long story short. should agree with our opinion that Whereas the award provides that in the facilities at present provided in depots, as indicated in the item the award in respect of depots and that I read, there shall be made stations should also be provided for available proper washing and the trackmen. I thank you, Mr. sanitary conveniences and separate Speaker, for your indulgence, and the lockers for employees, all that House for its courtesy. is provided for members of track Mr. R. S. L. McDONALD (Rodney). gangs is a shed without any -I wish to emphasize the need for conveniences whatsoever. These are improvements to be made in train the men who are engaged on the services and crossings throughout task of laying or replacing rails and country areas. I believe it is a great restoring ballast. It is assumed that, tragedy that so many accidents, in accordance with general practice which could be avoided, occur on in the past throughout the Victorian railway crossings. I do not blame Railways, the men will go to the either the railways or the drivers of nearest station at some time during motor vehicles in particular, but be the day to gain access to these lieve that a little more care is re amenities-lockers, toilets and wash quired on both sides. Furthermore, ing facilities-because generally they I think some special signs indicating work on a line of track between two to a motorist when he is approach stations. ing a railway crossing would be of At present some new fast trains considerable value. We are living in are operating on our country lines, a modern era in which there are as well as some trains which are highways along which cars are Railway Loan [28 OCTOBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1147 driven at 60 or 70 miles an tion, many people own a motor car to hour. Before a driver realizes it, he day, and with the increase in rail is right on a railway crossing, and fares they are driven to use their therefore adequate markings or indi cars or other services. cations on the roadway that there is a crossing ahead would be of great For the past fifteen years or so value. I feel that some simple means bus lines operating interstate have of marking the highway, say, by a been " pinching " passengers off the strap or other physical sign half a railways. Those buses can leave an mile and then a quarter of a mile hour later than the train and reach before the railway crossing, on a their destination half an hour earlier. uniform basis throughout the State, On the train to Echuca, frequently I would be a worth-while contribution am the only passenger to make the to road safety. full journey. It gets rather lonesome travelling alone, because one cannot Having said that in passing, I now read in these motor trains, which refer to the railways' efforts to are of 1927 vintage. I hope the attract passengers, particularly in the Minister of Transport will consider country. One of the disadvantages providing some improvements in for country people is that it takes these trains. Of course, a reasonable far too long to complete a journey by service is provided on some country rail under the existing services. The lines. Often I wonder whether un railway line was extended to Echuca satisfactory services are provided on in 1864, and sometimes I think the other country lines so that the people same time-table is in use now as in will not bother to travel by train. Re those days because regularly it peatedly I have heard it said, "We takes me five hours to reach Mel want people to use the rail services." bourne by train. If anything goes wrong, a delay of three-quarters of If rail passengers are to pay an hour can occur. This happens higher charges, at least they should quite often. Often we read press receive a service in the country reports to the effect that trains are commensurate with what city people two hours late. This is not at all in are receiving. I would be happy if line with the requirements of the the journey on my line could be re age. duced by even an hour. I have been informed that the present time-table In the case of airlines and bus ser is the same as that which operated vices, where competition exists, 30 years ago. This is not good good service is provided. The new enough, and it is one of the reasons 727 jets are considerably reducing the why potential rail . passengers are time taken to travel from Melbourne being driven to use other forms of to Sydney. Recently my brother transport. They will do so whenever flew from Perth to Melbourne in under four hours, but it took him five they can get something better. It has hours to travel from Melbourne to been said to-night that the establish Echuca by rail-a distance of 150 ment of boom barriers at level cross miles. It is about 128 miles by road. ings must be speeded up, particularly I think the people are entitled to in the metropolitan area. They are something better than this service. essential, but I think it is just as The city is well served by trains. essential to speed up the passenger One has only to stand outside a services provided to-day in order to suburban station to see this. People bring them into line with other com in the metropolis can get to work in peting forms of transport. the city on time every day, but that is not the position when one travels Roads have been improved right from the country to Melbourne. The throughout the State, but still we find present service offers no inducement goods trains without any markings to people to travel by train. In addi- or lights on them travelling at night 1148 Railway Loan [ASSEMBLY.) Application Bill. over crossings. Although there have state haulage. It has also been of not been a great number of accidents great benefit to country people in caused by these trains there have been providing for easier movement of rail several very near misses, and car traffic through the metropolis to the drivers have driven through fences country. to avoid hitting trains. I consider that signs should be painted with No other member has directed reflective paint or some type of reflec attention to sub-item No. 121, which tors placed on the sides of railway provides for expenditure in the Mel trucks so that when goods trains are bourne goods sheds and marshalling standing over crossings, as is often yards. The sum of £500,000 is to the case at night, car drivers will be be allocated to provide a start on able to see them. It would not be alterations in this area. It is pro very costly for the railways to equip posed to reorganize the yards to pro goods train with some type of dis vide for modern automatic hump tinctive marking. The position is not shunting, which must, of necessity, bad with passenger trains because the bring about a considerable improve lights in the compartments of the ment in the handling of traffic and a carriages are readily visible. I have reduction in costs. That is a point already suggested that some sort of of vital interest to the State. warning device should be placed on Sub-item No. 123 relates to ex the road to indicate to drivers of penditure at the Spencer-street rail motor vehicles that a railway cros way station. Like some Opposition sing is ahead, as during wet periods members I am· not particularly happy mud and slush on the roads make about that project, and I think great it very difficult for drivers to see improvements could be made. It has warning signs. The railways are been designed primarily to allow partly responsible for the great in people to get to trains in reason crease in traffic on our roads, because able comfort when departing from adequate rail services have not been Melbourne, and, when they are provided and the people have been arriving from the country with lug forced to use their own vehicles. I gage, to get off the train expedi consider that improvements in rail tiously in order to journey to their services would take much of this final destination. I am aware that traffic off the road, and the sugges the station also caters for a lot of tions I have made, if adopted, should through traffic, but it seems peculiar help bring traffic back to the railways to me that passengers arriving from if the railways want it. country areas should be brought in at Mr. HUDSON (Toorak).-Up till ground level and then forced to walk now in this debate we have heard down a ramp into a channel, to pro mainly criticism of the railways, but ceed along that for some distance and there are at least two sub-items in then go up another ramp. For city the schedule which are worthy of dwellers who are fleet of foot and not commendation. Sub-items 116 and 117 of item No. 1 relate to expenditure laden with a lot of heavy baggage at the Dynon goods terminal. The there is not so much discomfort in estimated total cost of this project is getting from one platform to another. approximately £4,500,000, and it rep But country passengers handling resents forward thinking by this Gov heavy luggage do not find things so ernment and by the Railway Depart easy. ment because the movement of goods \Vhen a passenger bound for the is of great importance to the pros perity of the State. The development country drives up to the station by of Dynon in conjunction· with the car or arrives by tram with baggage standard gauge line has had consider he may or may not find porters avail able influence on the flow of traffic able. If there are no porters in sight and has effected economies in inter- he has to fend for himself and carry Railway Loan [28 OCTOBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1149 his baggage down a ramp, along a will be a station in the vicinity of channel, and up another ramp. this House and two stations in Although there may have been Latrobe-street, one of which will be reasons for the present design of the located in what I would term the station, somewhere along the line the Elizabeth-street valley and the other designers have failed. Airline opera in the Flagstaff Gardens area. How tors offer, as one of the features of ever, the proposed station at the their transportation, efficient service: Exhibition Gardens has been deleted to passengers arriving at their termi from the plan. I wonder whether nal by car or tram. Luggage is taken before this decision was reached an from passengers by porters, and accurate study was made of the they do not have to worry about it population density, both actual and until arriving at their destination planned, in the areas to be served by point. I consider something more the proposed stations. The Exhibi can be done by the railways in their tion Gardens station, as originally en planning to assist passengers in that visaged, would have served the Com regard. monwealth Centre in Spring-street We· have heard a number of com which, when completed, will house parisons with that paragon of virtues, 25,000 workers. Furthermore, an ex tbe New South Wales railways, pected 50,000 visitors per day will be which have their good and their bad travelling to and from the centre. points. However, I have noticed one Also located in the area which would good feature at Central station, have been served by this station is Sydney. If a person cannot get the I.C.I. building and many other assistance with his baggage, at least large buildings, including the he finds there are trollies on the plat Exhibition Building which attracts form to allow him to wheel his lug many people to the numerous exhibi gage out to the taxi rank. tions which are held throughout the year, in addition to a very big I am also concerned about the City student population in the next few of Melbourne underground railway weeks for public examinations. for which an allocation is provided under sub-item No. 301. A long time I have heard it stated that one of has been spent in planning this the objections to providing three service, and I wonder whether we are stations along Latrobe-street was the getting anywhere. fact that the railwavs did not wish Mr. WILTON.-We have got some to run a tram service. The original very big holes. distance between the stations was, I understand, to be 25 chains. It Mr. HUDSON.-Perhaps water will would appear that the railways might be struck; that would solve some of be thinking in terms of the iron our water problems. The original horse connecting vastly scattered underground railway plans envisaged areas. It should be appreciated that the provision of three stations along the underground railway will be Latrobe-street, and included one at operating in an area of the highest the Exhibition Gardens. Several de possible traffic density, in which case putations were held concerning the stations should be provided where question of possible damage to the they will cater for the greatest gardens, but I understand from the amount of traffic. members of the deputations, that they were quite satisfied that the amount The original underground railway of land that would be used would plan envisaged two-fifths of the cost be less than one-seventh of an acre being borne by the landowners in a and there would be no problem so very restricted area of the City of far as beautification was concerned. Melbourne. I was not a member of The latest opinion appears to be Parliament when the initial legisla that the station at the Exhibition tion was enacted but, to me, this Gardens is no longer required. There appears to be a dangerous principle. 1150 Railway Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill.

I cannot see why the landowners in honour to represent. According to the City of Melbourne should be the explanatory memorandum sup called upon to make such a large con plied with the Bill, sub-item 101 tribution towards the cost of the pro of the schedule makes provision posed underground railway system. for the large number of minor The new railway facility, which is additions, improvements and recon designed really to develop the structions that must be carried out back-blocks of Melbourne, just as in at stations and yards throughout the the past the railways have been railway system each year in order to extended into the Mallee for meet varying traffic r·equirements or developmental purposes, will bring replace obsolete facilities. On pre great benefits to the whole vious occasions in this House, I have of the State. The people who raised the matter of the provision of patronize the underground railway a pedestrian subway at the Broad system will come from all over the meadows railway station. This State, particularly from the outer matter has also been the subject of suburban areas. Very few people correspondence between the Minister travel to Melbourne unless they have of Transport and me on behalf of the a reason for doing so. People from Broadmeadows City Council and the country travel to Melbourne many of my constituents who use the generally because there is in the city Broadmeadows station. an excellent shopping centre and business area, and it is to their ad I have visited the station on several vantage to visit the city not only for occasions, particularly in peak shopping but also to transact periods, and have observed what business. takes place when a train arrives. While the Minister adheres to his A big part of the load of the under original decision that he considers the ground railway will generate from the existing crib type crossing to be both Commonwealth Centre in Spring adequate and safe, I beg to differ with street but, the ratepayers of the City him on that point. I feel that of Melbourne-the Commonwealth restricted crossings of this type, Government is not a ratepayer-will which cause a tremendous amount of be called upon to bear the cost, which congestion, are neither adequate nor is manifestly unfair. It has been said safe. In support of the claim that that the provision of the underground crib crossings are safe, the argument railway system will increase values in is usually advanced that pedestrians Melbourne and, therefore, this is a wishing to use them must face method of siphoning off the increase alternately in both directions from in values. which a train could come before The ACTING SPEAKER (Mr. crossing the tracks. Because of Wheeler).-Order! The honorable this, the type of crossing installed is member for Toorak may not debate very narrow and only one person at the method by which the proposed a time can negotiate it. This causes underground railway is to be congestion, with the result that some financed. I suggest that he return to people become impatient and go the subject-matter of the Railway underneath the rail or jump over it Loan Application Bill. and run across the line. The situation Mr. HUDSON.-1 bow to your becomes impossible when other ruling, Mr. Acting Speaker. I have people wish to travel in the opposite nothing further to add on that sub direction. There are adequate jed. grounds for providing a subway at Broadmeadows station in order that Mr. WILTON (Broadmeadows).- passengers leaving the station may 1 wish to relate my remarks to rail way works in so far as they affect clear the tracks, which include the the electorate which I have the standard gauge line. ·Railway Loan· [28 OCTOBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1151

As I said in a previous debate, I Mr. WILTON.-It is the one that cannot understand why the Railways we had to force out of the Minister. Commissioners and the Minister of He had to agree to build it to match Transport saw fit to approve of the the promise made by my Leader installation of a subway at the during the last election campaign. Strathmore railway station but will not agree to do so at Broadmeadows. Mr. MEAGHER.-That promise was So far as I know, there are no un made the day after the contract was usual circumstances at Strathmore let. railway station which would warrant Mr. WILTON.-No, it was not. the building of a subway there as The honorable gentleman ·and the compared with the circumstances party he represents used every trick existing at Broadmeadows, and I am they knew to try to gain from this sure that the people who use the announcement propaganda to benefit Strathmore subway are satisfied with their own candidate for the Broad it. meadows electorate at the last elec I should like to know why the tion. As a matter of fact, the Railways Commissioners and the candidate and not the Minister made Minister will, on the one hand, accept the announcement to the press. the argument that a subway is warranted at one station and yet, on Because of the way in which the the other hand, reject the request for railway service has been laid out in one at another station a few miles the northern part of the metropolis, distant which handles a far greater there are no connecting links volume of passenger traffic. Doubt between the various main lines, and less, the reason is that passenger bus services are utilized for this trains do not go beyond Broad purpose. Therefore, as the areas meadows. However, I point out develop it will be necessary for that the area north of the station is adequate parking facilities to be pro highly developed and densely popu vided within the station grounds so lated. Quite a busy bus service that the buses servicing these operates from this station to the stations and bringing train travellers settled area to the north. The to them from the areas between two Broadmeadows City Council is lines, such as the Fawkner and greatly concerned about the situa Broadmeadows lines and the Reser tion; it recently raised the matter voir and Epping lines, will be able with me again and requested that I to be driven right up to the stations seek a deputation to the Minister of to discharge their passengers. I Transport and the Premier. I regret hope the Government will take the to say that the Minister has declined necessary steps while land is still to receive this deputation and discuss available and at a reasonable price the matter with the councillors. -it is getting dearer each year-to Those gentlemen will be dis secure sufficient land to provide appointed, as will be many railway parking facilities. I point out that passengers, when they receive my these facilities will be used not only letter enclosing the honorable gentle by the buses, but also by car owners man's reply to my request. who,- because of the chaotic con Another matter of concern is the ditions existing in the City of Mel provision of adequate parking facili bourne, will find it much more con ties at railway stations. A new sta venient and profitable to drive their tion, to be known as the Gowrie cars to suburban railway stations railway station, is being built and catch fast electric trains into the approximately half way between city. They will be able to do this Fawkner and Upfield. only if the Government shows suffi Mr. MEAGHER.-ls that the one cient wisdom to provide adequate that was not going to be built? parking facilities at these stations. 1152 Railway Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill.

During the debate on this Bill, which has been the subject of con several honorable members have siderable discussion and correspon compared the rail service with other dence between the Minister and my services provided by private enter self and the council of the Shire of prise and have more or less stated Newham and Woodend is at Tylden that the services provided by the road, a mile or so from the township railways are not good enough. If of Woodend. This crossing has the Government is prepared to show claimed the lives of a number of some foresight and imagination, it people, and the shire council is per can achieve something in this regard. turbed about the matter. Last For many years, the honorable mem October, a meeting took place at the ber for Coburg has, in this House, crossing between members of the criticized the conditions which ob railway level crossings committee, tain at the Fawkner railway station. representatives of the shire council, Drivers of motor vehicles cannot the local police sergeant, the school gain access to the station proper, and bus operator and the chairman of the passengers being taken to the station Kyneton High School Advisory by car must disembark on the busy Council. A press statement was roadway. One of the main arterial issued after the meeting, and Senior outlets from the City of Melbourne, Constable Burton spoke not only of this section of highway has been the recent fatal accidents but also duplicated and now carries a tre of the near misses which caused the mendous volume of traffic. People police to regard the crossing as ex living in North Fawkner who wish to tremely dangerous. Not only does travel by train to Melbourne, and who the council of the Shire of Newham travel by car to the nearest railway and Woodend consider the crossing station, have to go to Merlynston to dangerous, but the local police are park their cars. Vacant land is avail also of the same opinion. able at Fawkner, and I am sure the Ironically, those present witnessed Government could come to some an example of what often happens at arrangement with the cemetery trust. this crossing. A truck was proceed It should not be difficult to arrange ing along the highway towards suitable parking facilities, which Woodend and it became obvious to would be a boon to train travellers. the group standing on the roadside Sub-item 101 of item No. I of the that the driver was not aware that a schedule covers water supply. Some train was approaching from Bendigo. time ago, I raised with the Minister They signalled the truck driver, and of Transport the question of a water only when they attracted his atten supply for railway houses at the tion did he realize that a train was Digger's Rest railway station. I approaching and stop the vehicle. again direct attention to the situation On the 4th of February of this year, existing there. The army camp in the Minister of Transport wrote to me the district is supplied with water by a letter in which he said- the Sunbury Waterworks Trust, However, as promised to the deputation, and the Railway Department has the committee is prepared to re-examine attempted to reach agreement with the position about the middle of this year. the trust to have water laid on to the I remind the Minister of that state railway properties. The employees ment. We have passed the middle of are anxious to have this done, and I this year, and I hope the honorable hope the Minister will endeavour to gentleman will agree to the request make a satisfactory arrangement put to him previously by me and by with the Sunbury trust to tap the the shire councillors and arrange for main to the army camp. an adequate warning device to be In my electorate, there are many installed at the crossing. Recently, level crossings which are in need of I learned that, as a result of an acci adequate warning devices. One dent that had occurred there, legal Mr. Wilton. Railway Loan [28 OCTOBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1153 action was taken by a person con will have already committed them cerned. The matter was to be dealt selves to buying motor cars or will be with by the Supreme Court, but it using the bus service; at that stage was settled out of court, and I should they will not be inclined to patronize be interested to learn whether the railways. This would be an the Railway Department admitted understandable attitude for these liability, and, if so, to what extent. residents to adopt. Since it has been in office the Government has Previously, on behalf of the Thomas shown a marked lack of initiative so town Progress Association and the far as seeking new train passengers Whittlesea Shire Council, I have is concerned. directed the Minister's attention to level crossings on the Thomastown Another district which has been Epping line. I ask that the Minister sadly neglected by the Government re-examine the situation at these is Keilor, in which municipality no crossings to see whether it is pos passenger rail service exists, although sible to equip them with warning there is a permanent way. The devices under the current works pro Government has shown no inclination gramme. to implement a passenger service on The Minister announced in the this line. This question has been dis press recently that it was hoped that cussed by the Keilor city councillors in the new year the Gowrie railway and former Ministers of Tranport station would be completed and that, over a number of years. This com following its completion, the present munity has to depend on an in Fawkner train service would be ex adequate private bus service which tended. I wish to be informed why has been a source of annoyance to the the Minister cannot extend the residents over a long period. If the service before Gowrie station is com Minister is not interested, in running pleted. Upfield station, which has passenger trains to this district, per already been constructed, is further haps he would examine the possibility north than Gowrie, and many hun of installing a tramway bus service. dreds of people living in the vicinity I do not intend to say any more about of Upfield station are constantly ask tramway buses, but such a service ing me when a train service will be might give the residents some hope provided. Many prospective train for the future. travellers who reside in close I now wish to comment on the proximity to the Upfield station Government's lack of planning to ex would no doubt patronize the trains tend the train service to the Whittle if the Government was prepared to sea area. A local paper, the Coburg exercise some initiative and seek new Courier, contains an article relating business by providing this service. to a survey that is being conducted 1 assure the Minister that he would by the Department of Town and be somewhat surprised with the suc Regional Planning of the University !CeS,IS ithat would be acll~eved. At of Melbourne. The students con present one train goes to Upfield in cerned are now working on the final the morning and returns at night to stage of the project. They forecast meet the needs of employees of the the urban development of the town Ford motor company. In between ship of Whittlesea for eventually times, local residents are not pro 100,000 citizens, and the expansion vided with a train service. of South Morang to house 10, 000 Mr. WILKES.-What do they do people. Here again, great potential walk up the tracks? is being ignored by the Government, Mr. WILTON.-They have to which is content to operate within hitch-hike or catch a bus to Fawkner a limited area in the metropolis. railway station. By the time the The Government displays reluc Government gets round to running tance to initiate services for the outer regular trains to this area the people areas, which should provide large 1154 Railway Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill. numbers of home sites for the many under this sub-item, provision has thousands of young people who are been made to relieve the situation struggling to establish themselves. and to bring the facilities more into One reason why the outer areas are line with modern standards. virtually " withering on the vine ,, is the lack of public transport. This is Recently I was speaking to a very evident in the city of Keilor. guard who was experienced enough Young married couples who decide to be placed in charge of younger to build in the outer areas are ·faced men, to train them in methods of with the cost of providing their own railway working. He told me that, transport at a time when they can ill because of the lack of amenities at afford to do so. They are obliged to many railway depots, these men left spend a good portion of their income to take up employment in private on the purchase of a motor car with industry. He said that the older tragic results, because it takes' them men remained because, at their stage years to catch up with their other of life, they had too much to lose in commitments. If adequate public the way of long-service leave and transport was provided in these other benefits. The Railway Depart areas, they would go ahead by leaps ment has experienced great difficulty and bounds and the Government in obtaining sufficient crew members would have some justification for to man all the trains. There are cer saying that it is proud of Victoria. tain rules and regulations, and these However, it has no such justification have been framed with the object of at the moment. ensuring that the men give of their best whilst on duty. I hope the Minister of Transport will take notice of my remarks con Sub-item 113 concerns private cerning level crossings, because they sidings constructed on railway land. are a source of concern to people In addressing my remarks to this living in their immediate vicinity. subject, I do not wish to be accused Victoria lags behind other States in of parochialism. However, on be equipping level crossings with ade half of the people at Devenish, I quate warning devices. Hardly a made representations to the Railways week passes without some mention Commissioners to have a siding being made in the press of a serious placed at that station for the storage accident on a level crossing. No of superphosphate and oats. We doubt the Minister will remark that were most concerned that the accidents have occurred at crossings farmers of Devenish and district which are adequately equipped with would be required to contribute the protective devices. I agree that full amount of the siding. I under accidents cannot be completely stand that this policy has now been eliminated. Nevertheless, adequate changed, and that the Department protection of crossings will con will contribute to the cost of erec siderably eliminate mishaps. tion of private sidings on railway land in suitable cases where there is Mr. TREWIN (Benalla).-I relate a guarantee of substantial railway my remarks to sub-item 108 of item traffic. When I made representa No. 1 of the schedule concerning tions to the Railways Commissioners, staff amenities in depots, workshops, I did not know of that policy. I am stations, offices and yards. I hope sure that Devenish people will now my criticism will be constructive. be interested in obtaining a siding at Railway depots in country areas the railway station. were established many years ago, and they are really antiquated. I do Under sub-item 121 relating to not expect " glasshouses " to be bui1t Melbourne goods sheds and marshal at short notice, but better amenities ling yards-rearrangement and pro should be provided for railway men vision of additional facilities, includ in these depots. I am pleased that ing acquisition of land-I wish to Railway Loan [28 OCTOBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1155 direct my remarks to the marshalling Railway Department on its decision yards at North Melbourne and to place orders for special types of Spencer-street. If goods are mis rolling-stock for specific purposes. laid for places like Mansfield, where For example, the new vehicles will there is a train operating only once· include flat tops to carry steel, a week, they do not arrive until the cement wagons, motor body wagons, following week. This is not good louvre vans and plasterboard flat enough. I am pleased to note that cars. These types of rolling-stock plans have been made to bring these will be an asset to the Department marshalling yards up to first-class with which they can move large standard. At Sydney central station tonnages of goods between Mel recently, whilst I was returning to f>ourne and Sydney and various parts Melbourne, I purchased a magazine of the State. entitled Railway Transportation, dated 13th August, 1964, which It should be remembered that the serves railway executives and rail greatest single revenue producer to way manufacturers of Australia and the Victorian railways is the wheat New Zealand. It was only by chance harvest, which at present is trans that I noticed this magazine, and as ported in open " GY " trucks. I glanced through it I saw an article Definite plans should be made to entitled " Hump Operations Planned build a fleet of bogie, bulk, hopper for Melbourne Yard." It stated- type trucks for this purpose. Re cently a fine wheat storage with MELBOURNE-Plans for the conversion of Melbourne marshalling yard to retarder modern handling facilities was equipped hump operation have been brought into operation in Western announced by the Victorian Railways. Australia, incorporating the use of a special type of truck. I have only The article explained what this seen a picture of the method used would mean in terms of railway and heard a brief explanation of it. transportation, and what were the Apparently the truck is tipped up proposed alterations and improve endwise. This is an American ments. method, whereby grain is run out I endorse the remarks of the hon from one end of the truck. In look orable member for Toorak on the ing to the future so far as the shortcoming of the Spencer-street transport of wheat is concerned, the station. I hope that when this fine Railway Department and the Minister building has been completed it will of Transport must ensure that the contain more facilities to enable the most modern types of rolling-stock older people of the community to join are brought into use. tralns there and to leave the station precincts. There is a lot to think of in regard to our railways at present, and we The last item to which I refer must plan for the next 40, 50 or 60 is a pet subject of mine, namely, years. Those who planned and built rolling-stock. I am concerned par our railway system looked a long ticularly with wheat wagons. At way ahead, and we in the 1960's present our wheat harvest is car should do the same for the people of ried in the open " GY " type the future. We should endeavour to trucks, which .have rendered won rectify anything that is wrong, and derful service to wheat growers, thus avoid it being said many years the Railway Department, and the hence that we did not look ahead in Grain Elevators Board. I am sure regard to the development of this these vehicles have paid for them State and our railway system. We selves over and over again. I was have a fine railway system, with able to glean some information some shortcomings, which we should relating to rolling-stock from the support to ensure that it confers on magazine to which I referred a few the State the greatest possible moments ago. I congratulate the oenefits. Undoubtedly the railways 1156 Railway Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill. will help the State to develop if we will be well spent and return fairly look after them. The railway system quickly increased revenue to the rail has made this great city of Mel ways. bourne. Most of the produce from The latest annual report of the Rail the country is transported to the city ways Commissioners indicates that day after day, and we must ensure 12s. 2d. out of every £1 of revenue that facilities are available here for is derived from goods and livestock. the proper distribution of these con The total annual revenue from this signments. I support the Bill. source is more than £20,000,000. Mr. HOLLAND (Flemington). Therefore, the necessity for forward This Bill deals with the expenditure planning is clear, as evidence by the of £7,750,000 by the Railway Depart two items I referred to, and one other ment in the current financial year, item that was mentioned by the - and provides authority for the ex honorable member for Toorak, penditure of £11,500,000 up to the namely, the provision of money for end of 1965. The importance of the the new type of marshalling yards railway system is reflected in these that are to be instituted. I know figures, which indicate what a large nothing about these, other than what sum is necessary to bring the rail I have read in several articles con cerning their success in America, in ways as up to date as possible with particular. One can only hope that their facilities. No doubt the Minis they will be successful here, and ter of Transport would agree that eventually provide considerable pro even this huge amount of money is fit for the railways. Another im not nearly sufficient to cover all the portant proposal is the allocation of urgent needs of the railways, to make £1,500,000 for the purchase of, I them safe and financially successful, understand, diesel locomotives. An as we all desire. article in the latest issue of the The schedule to the Bill includes National Bank's Monthly Summary of mainly routine items and matters Australian Conditions deals with related to forward planning. I the type of service that railways wish to advert to some matters throughout Australia are giving which affect my own constituency, and the tremendous benefits which but before doing so I should have accrued from the provision like to comment briefly on some of diesel engines. This has led of the points made by the honor to a great increase in the volume able member for Toorak con of freight carried and a decrease in cerning certain really important rail costs. The Victorian Railways items in the schedule. The honor are providing modern locomotives as able member mentioned the expendi quickly as is possible. ture of £2,850,000 on the provision The honorable member for Toorak of additional terminal facilities at also referred to what I regard as the Dynon, and £1,690,000 for the provi most important project in the sion of a new locomotive depot at schedule-the City of Melbourne that location. Dynon has been an underground railway. He commen outstanding success as the terminus ted on three aspects. One concerned for the standard gauge line. More the technical planning, which I do than 1,000,000 tons of goods were not intend to touch on, as I am con handled there in the last recorded tent to leave the location of the stations to the experts. His second year. One can say that both comment concerned the method of physically and financially the stan financing the project, and I do not in dard gauge line, particularly on the tend to transgress the ruling given by freight side, has been an outstanding the Acting Speaker that the method success for the railways and that any of financing the underground railway money spent at Dynon-which, in and the way in which the honorable cidentally, borders my electorate- member for Toorak was discussing Railway Loan [28 OCTOBER, 1964.] A.pplicat~on Bill. 1151 it were not relevant to this Railway difficulties encountered by passengers Loan Application Bill. However, I at the station, he felt at that stage am particularly concerned, as I have that the proposal should be delayed been on several other occasions, to for another twelve months or so until know whether it is the desire of the the large Housing Commission estate Government to have the underground nearby had been completed anQ. railway project implemented as soon occupied, when he would look at the as possible. matter again. On several previous occasionst In the meantime, railway staff were particularly when a Bill covering the supposed to assist mothers with financing of this railway was under prams in their attempts to climb up consideration, we were able to elicit these 22 steps. Of course, that did some information from the Minister. not happen. I took the matter up I particularly want information, if it again With the Minister, and on this is available, as to when a real start occasion I received a letter from him will be made on the building of this stating that the project was to be underground. I should also like to proceeded with, but that certain hear comments from the Minister as detailed planning had first to be to how it is to be financed. I leave undertaken. I was elated with this the matter at that point in the hope news, thinking that at last some that he will be able to throw some action was in sight. However, after light on the position, because the a couple of months and in response sum of money provided in this Bill and to a further request from me as to in previous Bills in connexion with what was happening, I rece.ived the underground railway has been in another letter from the Minister stat finitesimal. Although it is obvious ing that the planning had been com that preliminary planning must take pleted, but that because of the esti place, before very long it will be abso mated cost of £7,000 the railways did lutely necessary for the community to not feel they could proceed with the know just how and when this most job. However, I was told that it important project in the development would be looked at again after of Melbourne will be commenced. I another twelve months. hope the Minister at a later stage will be able to advise honorable There are at present some 1,350 members on this most important residents in 320 flats in the nearby matter, as well as on the other big Housing Commission estate. There projects that have been mentioned. are many mothers with children in prams amongst them who are Dealing with more routine matters customers of the railways. I should covered by the Bill, I refer, first, to like the Minister to again examine sub-item No. 101, which covers an this proposal, which has been delayed allocation for stations, offices, yards, for two years, despite the fact that &c. I have been particularly con the railways agreed that it ought to cerned over the past couple of years be implemented. The sum of £7,000 about the need for a ramp at South which is involved is not a large Kensington station in place of the amount, and I think this expenditure 22 steps leading to one platform, in would attract more traffic to the rail order that mothers wheeling prams ways. In the next two years, the may have easier access to the station. Housing Commission intends to I have been fighting for this for some double the size of its estate in that area, two years now, and I thought I had so there will be some 2,500 to 3,000 been meeting with some success, customers right on the door step. The but now I find that there is further Melbourne City Council is doing its delay. When I first raised the ques best for this area by providing money tion two years ago, I was told that and land on which to build flats and while the Minister appreciated the also proposes spending, in the next Session 1964.--48 U58 Railway Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill.

twelve months or two years, approxi tration as it affects their electorates. mately £60,000 to provide necessary Before dealing with my own elec social facilities, beautify the park, and torate, I point out to the Minister of so on. I consider it only fair and Transport that this is the second Bill reasonable that the railways should of its type which has not included in play its part in this community the schedule the estimated amounts development and improve access to that have been expended up to this the South Kensington station without stage in the development of the further delay. various projects listed in the measure. Another matter to which I wish to I believe last year's loan application refer is the provision of automatic Bill was the first occasion on which boom type barriers at the level this practice was not observed. Unfor crossing at the Kensington railway tunately, the practice which is now 'station. I have brought up this adopted means that certain informa matter periodically over a couple of tion, which is of great interest to years and I thought at one stage that honorable members is withheld from I had been successful. I gave details them. Under the system which was of the delays that occur at this previously adopted, it would have crossing, and I do not propose to been possible when examining sub weary the House by repeating this item 122, which relates to the dupli information at this stage except to cation of the Melbourne-East Cam say that I provided facts and figures berwell line, to ascertain how much to show that there is a need for a money had been spent on that project change in the type of gates used at to date. I do not know why this in Kensington because of the very formation is no longer supplied, and heavy traffic on Macaulay-road. I consider that the type of schedule This road leads to that Mecca of which was formerly presented was ~portsmen, the Flemington race far better than the schedule to this course, where race-meetings are held, Bill. and to the Flemington showgrounds, While dealing with the duplication where trotting meetings are con of the Melbourne-East Camberwell 'ducted. It is a very busy road. line, I should like to direct the After investigating the matter, the Minister's attention to the deteriora Railway Department decided that the tion which is noticeable in outer installation of boom gates was neces suburban areas so far as the provision sary at this crossing. I do not have of public transport, particularly at the relevant letter with me, but I peak periods, is concerned. For many understand that the boom gates were years past, this matter has been to be provided during the 1963-64 raised in the House. Passengers who financial year. I visited the locality travel by train from such townships at the commencement of this week as Fern Tree Gully and Mooroolbark but I saw no evidence that the to-day find that, because the trains railways have this project under are crowded, they must stand for way, although it can be said to the whole of the journey to Mel be reasonably urgent. I asked bourne, which occupies about one the Minister of Transport to investi hour. Similarly, when returning gate the matter with a view to ex home from work in the evenings, pediting the provision of the boom many passengers must stand in gates. It is a matter which is im crowded trains. I appreciate that portant not only to my electorate, but the Minister is confronted with cer also to the large number of motorists tain financial problems when en who use the crossing. deavouring to provide adequate public Mr. BORTHWICK (Scoresby). transport facilities. The debate on the Railway Loan Ap plication Bill affords honorable mem Over the years, I have argued that bers the opportunity to speak on whilst we devote a great deal of various aspects of railway adminis- thought to the development of road Railway Loan [28 OCTOBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1159

transport in the city area, we seem to time as we are prepared to lay down pay very little attention to the de a third set of tracks. Over a period velopment of public transport facili of five or six years, work has been ties. From the economic point of under way in duplicating the Mel view, it would be wiser for the State bourne-East Camberwell railway line, at this stage to devote greater efforts but I believe an additional track is to the development of public trans required on this line as far as Ring port than to the building of free wood. With the provision of an ways. additional track, it would be possible My remarks should not be con to schedule trains to run from Lily strued as a criticism of a programme dale into the heart of the city in of freeway development; I am sug something like 35 minutes, and the gesting that there should be a com system would be able to carry plete co-ordination of our efforts so passengers at the rate of 50,000 an far as transport is concerned, with hour. In New York and London, proper emphasis being attached to all approximately 93 per cent. of the sections of it. This leads me to the people are transported into the point that all transport should be co heart of the city by means of public ordinated under one Ministry. At transport, but already in Melbourne present, many Ministers have a finger the relevant figure has deteriorated in some field of transport. In my to 73 per cent. The position will view, it would be preferable, and far continue to deteriorate and more easier, to bring about co-ordination people will be driven away from if one Minister controlled all facets public transport to the roads because of transport within the State. adequate service cannot be provided. A previous speaker-it could have For various reasons, the demands been the honorable member for Flem for freeways are increasing. One of ington-referred to planning. The the principal reasons is the fact that Railways Commissioners have never inadequate services are being pro seen fit to ask for the co-operation vided for rail passengers. The of outer suburban municipalities in problem could be overcome relatively the development of their town cheaply in comparison with the huge planning schemes to make provision costs involved in providing freeways. for the future needs of public trans The Railways Commissioners esti port. Although huge development is mate that it would cost approxi taking place to the east of Melbourne, mately £56,000,000 to provide a safe particularly in my electorate- and adequate railway system. This some four municipalities are involved expenditure would include the de -the only governmental authority which is doing anything by way of velopment of the underground rail co-ordinated planning is the Country way in the city and allow for the Roads Board. This authority is doing provision of a third track on all im good work. As Melbourne has a fixed portant lines-at least as far as Box public rail transport system I cannot Hill on the Fern Tree Gully line. The understand why we are not looking expenditure involved in a programme ahead and planning for a fixed rail of this type would represent only a type of public transport in the rapid fraction of the cost of freeway de ly-expanding areas of the metropolis, velopment because, associated with. which extend from the Mornington the provision of freeways is the need Peninsula in the south to the Dande for land acquisitions, which absorb nong Ranges in the north. Persons up to 60 per cent. of the total cost who live in my electorate--say, at involved. Croydon-and work at General An adequate railway service into Motors-Holden's Proprietary Limited the rapidly-growing outer suburban at Dandenong, would travel by car areas cannot be provided until such a distance of some 16 to 20 1160 Railway Loan [ASSEMBLY.] A.ppliootion Bill. miles, to their place of em and I suggest that the Railways Com ployment. If their car fails and missioners enter into these areas in they travel by train, it involves a exactly the same way. journey of almost 80 miles. It is time the Railways Commissioners Another problem greatly affecting enlisted the aid of our local the area that I represent is the in town planners and asked them creased fares. I know that during to co-operate by supplying informa this debate I am not supposed to tion in regard to anticipated develop discuss the merits or demerits of in ment and transport needs 40 years creased fares as they apply to State hence, in order that they might do finances, but what worries me-and I what the Country Roads Board is am speaking about broad principles doing to-day and make the appro as they effect the railways-is that priate land reservations while there every time the fares are increased the is still enough open land available to railways lose patrons. That certainly allow this to be done. If this type of applies in my electorate. · Over the thinking is not adopted, future gene past couple of weeks I have noticed rations will curse the present gene- that the road traffic from my district ration for its lack of vision. · into the city along Burwood Highway, the Maroondah Highway and Canter It is true that no city in the bury-road has increased tremen world can survive without a sound dously. We are pushing people away public transport system. Whilst from rail transport because we can the present generation has been not, owing to the lack of finance, give blessed with what up to twenty them the services they require. We years ago was a fine public are pushing them to such an extent transport system, we are allowing that two, three or four of them are city development to take place with gathering together in groups and no thought for planning or provision travelling to work by car because for public transport. So, I ask the it is much cheaper to travel in that Minister of Transport to suggest, or way. even to direct, the Railways Commis Whilst these things may have to sioners to co-operate in some way occur in the short term because of with town planners in the outer lack of loan funds, I believe in the areas in order that this type of think long-term thinking it would be better ing will be adopted. It could well be for the State if people could be that this may come from the · trans induced to use public transport. That portation survey which is being made. could be achieved by charging a fare I hope it does, but I direct attention which is attractive to the people, by to the problem. providing attractive stations and car I have mentioned previously the parking facilities, and by bringing need for an all-party Parliamentary about co-ordination between road and committee, such as the State Devel rail transport. opment Committee or the Public I welcome the opportunity to speak Works Committee, to examine this on this subject which is so important type of problem and furnish a report to those members who represent to Parliament. We have seen how outer metropolitan areas. I have in municipalities can co-ordinate their mind particularly the Minister of thinking and planning on other types Electrical Undertakings, who always of problems. It was only through supports what I have to say on pub the co-operation of the municipalities lic transport. Another very inter ~nd the Government that the Dan ested member is the Secretary of the denong Valley Authority was formed. Cabinet, the honorable member for That is a perfect example of forward Ringwood, who invariably supports thinking and co-operative planning, those of us who are keenly interested Mr. Borthwick. Railway Loan [28 OCTOBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1161 in the subject. The Railways Com Roads Board and possibly to the missioners must soon give some Railway Department about the thought to constructing a loop line matter. in the eastern suburbs extending If the fly-over is constructed from Oakleigh through to Fern Tree according to the present design, three Gully, or across from Dandenong or access roads or pathways which lead from Glen Waverley. That is the to the long-established shopping area type of thinking we are looking for in the centre of Yarraville will be cut. ward to in the outer eastern suburbs The establishment in various out of Melbourne. lying suburbs during the last few We· have a great deal of confidence years of a large number of super in the Minister of Transport who has markets has had a bad effect on old brought a refreshing interest into the established businesses, and this field of public transport, and we con applies particularly in my electorate. gratulate him on the co-operation the I am apprehensive about any addi municipalities are getting from his tional handicap being imposed on Department by way of the provision traders as a result of the construction of land for car-parking facilities, of the fly-over as planned. scout halls and elderly citizens' clubs. In the past few years, a number of We wish him well in his transporta fly-overs and under-passes. have been tion survey, which we believe indi constructed in the electorate I rep cates visionary thinking. We have resent. I do not contend that this already seen the officers carrying out is because I have been a good member this survey working in our elec of Parliament, because I realize it is torates, and we expect big things owing to the geographical situation from it. We particularly expect co of the electorate. All road traffic ordinated planning and an acknow from the metropolitan area to the ledgment of how vital it is that fixed south-west of the State must travel rail public transport be planned for through this district. As a result, the in advance in this area, which will Napier-street under-pass the Shepherd contain some 2,000,000 people by the bridge over the railway line at the end of the current century. Maribyrnong river, the fly-over at Mr. SCHINTLER (Yarraville).-I Brooklyn and a number of other desir address myself to sub-item 106 of able installations promoting the rapid item No. 1 of the schedule. The movement of traffic have been con- explanatory memorandum attached to structed. · the Bill states that funds are required Most of the improvements have for land acquisition and preparation not interfered with the rights of for grade separation work to be people who have been conducting carried . out in later years at businesses in the area, but if the Somerville-road, Yarraville. This is Somerville-road project is carried out one of the forward planning schemes according to the present design and if in relation to subways and fly-overs access roads or pathways from the that have been under consideration main highway are cut, old-established for some time. businesses in that part of my elect orate will be greatly handicapped. I have inspected this plan, and A person who has to go from the although I agree completely that the northern side of Somerville-road to installation of a fly-over at this point the shopping area on the southern in my electorate is most desirable, side will have to take a circuitous Yarraville traders are much perturbed route to reach the business places at about the project in its present form. Anderson-street and nearby. It will be some time before it is imple I should be grateful if, before the mented, and representations have final plan for the fly-over is approved, already been made to the Country the Minister of Transport would give 1162 Railway Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill.

serious consideration to some pos to walk a considerable distance along sible alterations in order that the a subway to Bourke-street. The businessmen of Yarraville will not be Railway Department seems to be at a greater disadvantage than they pandering to country passengers who already are by the development that use the station only now and then, has taken place at the outer perimeter whereas suburban people make of the city. millions of journeys on metropolitan lines throughout the year. Mr. FLOYD (Williamstown).-The debate is nearing its conclusion, and Mr. CHRISTIE.-The number of I do not think it should be prolonged. passengers using the service has I understand the Minister of Trans decreased by 25 per cent. in twenty port wishes to reply to some of the years. matters that have been raised. I pro pose, except for two points, to reserve Mr. FLOYD.-1 have been using my remarks on railway matters for the suburban railway system for 40 another occasion. I remember when years. I have had 40,000 rides on a railway loan application Bill used the Williamstown line, and I am sick to be debated item by item, and of walking from " Siberia " to practically every member of the Bourke-street. I wish to put in a House contributed to the debate. plug for those people who continue to use the trains. Much lip service I take this opportunity to ref er to is paid to the fact that it is necessary the Spencer-street railway station, to have public transport. No city which is now in the process of being can function without it, but it is rebuilt-and I refer to the rebuilding necessary to make it so provocative of the new station, not the replace that people have to use it. ment of the old station by the present structure. I suggest that better pro Mr. WILCOX.-Attractive. vision than exists at present be made Mr. FLOYD.-Provocative is the for suburban passengers. The word. Attraction is all right, but it Spencer-street railway station seems is necessary to make people use the to be a terminal for country trains system. In Sydney, when tram and preference is given to country services operated, trams ran right travellers. All the planning has been to Central station. If I had planned in favour of allowing the Southern Spencer-street station, it would not Aurora and other long-distance trains have been a country terminal. In to terminate as near as possible to the intersection of Spencer-street London, Paris and other overseas cities every train does not run to the and Bourke-street, whereas suburban trains stop at platforms in an area I one terminal station. Here there seems to be a mania for all trains to call " Siberia ". leave from the one point. In London, The position could be rectified to as ·most honorable members know a certain extent. Provision should from personal experience, there are have been made in the planning of about a dozen railway stations. For the station for Bourke-street and example, the St. Pancras and the Flinders-street trams to run right into King's Cross stations adjoin each the station. Improved facilities could other, but the lines are not con be provided for suburban passengers nected. In Melbourne, country if part of the Melbourne yard at the trains should go to a terminal at back of platform No. 13 were utilized. Flinders-street extension-a cross Even a taxi rank there would help. over would not be needed at North It is ridiculous that passengers Melbourne-allowing the suburban alighting from trains coming from trains to run nearer to Spencer-street. Broadmeadows, Sandringham, Wil People would thus be provoked into liamstown and Oakleigh should have using them. I hope the Minister will Railway Loan [28 OCTOBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1163 agree that suitable provision could this session I shall seek an oppor be made on the west side of the tunity to give a more detailed state group of platforms to avoid the ment on railway matters than is pos necessity for passengers to tramp sible at this late hour. along a long subway. One of the most important pro Provision is made in the Bill for jects before us in Victoria at present accommodation for locomotives. I is, as has been rightly stressed by presume it is for diesel engines; I do several honorable members, the not suppose provision is being underground railway. I have been made for the old steam locomotives. asked by some honorable members Recently, I read that nothing ha~ whether it is the Government's in given mankind more pleasure than tention to proceed with the construc the old-type engine, with smoke tion of this railway. So far as I can pouring from its funnel, tearing along influence the Government, and I be at full belt with a string of carriages lieve I am speaking for the Govern following, and I suppose that is true. ment, this underground railway is one I want to put in a plug for what is of the necessities of Melbourne. possibly Australia's only railway museum housing locomotives. It is Mr. Moss.-lt will never see the located at North Williamstown. light of day. Mr. MEAGHER-Without the This museum is a source of great underground there will be no chance enjoyment to many people who have of solving the traffic problems of this not seen " Heavy Harry " and other metropolis. In saying that, I am steam locomotives in action. I take speaking from knowledge of what has it that some of the money which is been the experience of cities of com to be spent on housing locomotives will be used for keeping that museum parable size all over the world which in good repair. I hope that in the are all going in for this type of solu future provision will be made to ex tion to their problems. The honor tend the museum. In view of the able member for Scoresby referred lateness of the hour, I shall defer my to the need for third tracks in order other remarks until another occasion to permit of express running from the so that the Minister may reply to outlying areas. Here again, the honorable members, and I hope that mere provision of those third tracks he will give an answer to my remarks would not be sufficient to solve the about Spencer-street station. problem unless provision was also made in the centre for the disposal The motion was agreed to. of the extra trains when they arrived The Bill was read a second time at their destination. Again, this points and committed. to the underground loop. Clause 1 was agreed to. The honorable member for Toorak was concerned about the Exhibition Clause 2 (Issue and application of station and about the fact that under money from Loan Fund for railway the. latest plan one of the three purposes). originally proposed stations in Mr. MEAGHER (Minister of Trans Latrobe-street was to be deleted. I port) .-Like other members, I intend point out that a study of the map to be commendably brief, and will not will show that a station is situated attempt to answer in detail all the across Russell-street and that in fact matters raised by honorable mem the entrance to that station will be bers. However, their remarks will be at the corner of Exhibition and fully considered by me, and in due Latrobe streets, right opposite one of course they will receive written re the entrances to the Commonwealth plies. At some later stage ·during Centre and as close to the Exhibition 1164 Railway Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill.

Buildings as would be a station situ One thing I have been able to do ated at the corner of Latrobe and and which is under way now is that Spring streets. I have under order the first dozen hand-trolleys similar to those in use Mr. TREWIN.-Will that be the on Sydney's Central station. It is nearest station to Parliament House? expected that they will be delivered Mr. MEAGHER-No. The nearest in the next week or two. We have station to this building will be had two prototypes tried out on the roughly in front of it. Despite press station and, as a result of experience, reports to the contrary, the location have asked for some modifications of of that particular station had nothing design to enable them to be more to do with the fact that Parliament readily handled by the passengers. I House happens to be situated at this expect to have enough of those at the spot. That position is determined by station to leave a number on every the necessity to have something platform and in the central booking better than a 1-in-40 grade from hall, so that people will simply help the J olimont yards to the first themselves, wheel their luggage to station. If it had been situated far where they want to go and then ther south than that position, the abandon the trolleys. The staff will grade would have been too great for be responsible for seeing that the the trains to mount when they were trolleys remain reasonably evenly dis fully loaded. So the location of the tributed around the station. three stations as at present planned The honorable member for Ivanhoe has been determined on technical wanted to know whether something grounds; they are there because the was going to be done about the cat locations selected are the logical park at Spencer-street statioo. I places for them, and I believe they assure him that only a few days ago will provide an adequate service for I spoke to the Commissioners about the city. the time-lag in fixing the car park, and Under the Standing Orders I cannot I expect that work to be proceeded enter into any debate on the method with fairly quickly. of financing this project. I shall be The Leader of the Opposition happy to have something more to say referred to Mr. Commissioner about it on another occasion. I think Rogan's trip overseas, and said some I have covered the situation of the thing to the effect that there was no underground railway fairly well in tendency to develop higher efficiency the few minutes available to me. in the railways. All I wish to say As to the remarks about Spencer in reply is that Mr. Commissioner street station, I can at least plead not Rogan's trip overseas was for guilty to having designed it. The the purpose of studying the latest station has been built and, if I may type of computer in railway opera correct the honorable member for tions. He has returned with a recom Williamstown, it is not being rebuilt mendation that we should install in at present but is being further ex Melbourne a computer which will be tended. The station has been pro capable not only of handling stores vided with ramps, and there has been calculations, salaries and wages, and so on, but will also make it possible a good deal of criticism about the to book an interstate passage in a existence of those ramps. I think matter of seconds. The computer ramps were considered necessary by will be tied in by land line to each of the designers because of the nature the other capitals, and instead of of that particular station. I suppose intending passengers having to go to it would have been technically pos Spencer-street for a return booking sible to 'install escalators instead of to Brisbane, Adelaide, or any other ramps, but escalators would have capital city and being told to come been much more expensive. back next day, it will be possible to Railway Loan (28 OCTOBER, 1964.] .Application Bill. 1165

put a coded card into this machine the " nut " at the wheel. To apply and obtain an almost instantaneous grade separation and supply wig-wag reply from the other capital cities. I signs at all level crossings would be think this is some indication of a an enormous task, as there are tendency towards higher efficiency. approximately 3,000 level crossings The honorable member for North in Victoria, all of which cannot be cote was concerned about the use of attended to at once. Whether there old-type carriages on the lines in his be wig-wag signals, boom barriers or electorate. I can inform him that six other safety devices, the solution complete new Harris trains will be ultimately depends on the man at the delivered in this financial year, and wheel to see that he looks after his that the first old trains to be own skin. I do not know how one eliminated will be the dog-box type can eliminate the tendency of people of which he complained. to commit suicide while driving Mr. FLOYD.-They will be put on motor cars. I thank honorable mem the Williamstown line! bers for the constructive way in which they have approached this Mr. MEAGHER-That will depend measure, and for their contributions on how polite the honorable member to the debate. for Williamstown is to me in the future! The honorable member for The clause was agreed to, as were Northcote also urged the better use of the remaining clauses. railway land. I am pursuing this policy at present and am urging the Railways The Bill was reported to the House Commissioners to make available without amendment, and passed every piece of land possible for car through its remaining stages. parking at railway stations with the object of inducing more people to use the railways, in accordance with ADJOURNMENT. the ideas of the honorable member BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE: DAYS OF for Scoresby. SITTING. The honorable member for Dande Mr. MEAGHER (Minister of Trans nong ref erred to Wes tall siding which port) .-I move- is about to be constructed, and also That the House, at its rising, adjourn suggested that increased efforts until Wednesday next, at half-past Three should be made to obtain motor car o'clock. loading for the railways. Special The motion was agreed to. motor car trucks have been built, and as the Westall site will be close to the Mr. MEAGHER (Minister of Trans Volkswagen factory, a needed port) .-I move- amenity in that area will have been That the House do now adjourn. provided. Mr. WILKES (Northcote).-As Tuesday next will be a public holi I have noted the remarks of honor day, can the Minister indicate what able members on the subject of level days the House will sit next week? crossing accidents. I have yet to re ceive a report of a railway train leav Mr. MEAGHER (Minister of Trans ing the line to chase a motor car up port) .-The present intention is that the road and hit it. In 99.9 per cent. Wednesday and Thursday of next of cases motorists run into the sides week will be treated as normal Tues of trains, and in 62 .per cent. of those day and Wednesday sittings. cases the accidents occur in daylight. I do not know what is the answer. I The motion was agreed to. can only relate the old story, that The House adjourned at 10.35 p.m. the most dangerous part of a car is until Wednesday, November 4. Session 1964.-49 1166 Tertiary Education. [ASSEMBLY.] Shire of Rodney.

this effect with further details was pub ill.egtalatittt A.a.atmbly. lished in the Education Gazette of the 12th February, 1964. An interim course for primary schools which will gradually replace the present Wednesday, November 4, 1964. money course has been prepared and has already been distributed to schools. De tails are given in the September issue of the Education Gazette, page 419. As facility in conversion from one system The SPEAKER (Sir William to the other will be necessary, it has been McDonald) took the chair at 4.13 p.m., recommended to teachers that conversion and read the prayer. tables should be developed to assist pupils during the change-over period. In secondary and technical schools the TERTIARY EDUCATION. introduction of decimal currency will not REPORT OF COMMONWEALTH result in any substantial alterations to ex COMMITTEE. isting mathematics syllabuses. During 1964 and 1965, however, pupils Mr. HOLDING (Richmond) asked will be introduced to the new currency as the Minister of Education- opportunity offers so that by the end of !. Whether he has any information as 1965 they will be thoroughly familiar with to when the report of the inquiry into the its coinage and notation and fully com future of tertiary education will be avail petent in skills involving conversion and able? manipulation. 2. Whether, in view of the vast interest All schools are being kept informed as to in this subject, he will ensure that, when suitable literature and aids as these be presented, sufficient copies of the report come available. will be available to meet the needs of Parliament? Mr. BLOOMFIELD (Minister of SHIRE OF RODNEY. Education) .-The answers are- FUNDS FOR DRAINAGE WORKS. 1. No. Mr. MOSS (Leader of the Country 2. I will endeavour to do so. If mem Party) asked the Minister of Public bers who desire copies will advise me with Works, for the Minister for Local out delay, I will request Senator Gorton to Government- let me have them when the report becomes available. What amount of money was made avail able for drainage in the Shire of Rodney during each of the past two financial years and what amount has been allocated this DECIMAL CURRENCY. financial year? TEACHING IN SCHOOLS. Mr. PORTER (Minister of Public Mr. TREZISE (Geelong West) Works) .-The Minister for Local asked the Minister of Education- Government has supplied the follow Whether the study of the decimal ing answer: - currency system is included in the present school curricula; if so, to what extent the Financial year 1962-63-Nil. subject is being taught to ensure its imme Financial year 1963-64-£200. diate convenience to students upon the in Financial year 1964-65---Nil. troduction of decimal currency? Mr. BLOOMFIELD (Minister of LEVEL CROSSING ACCIDENTS. Education) .-The answer is- LEGAL ACTION: DETERMINATION OF In accordance with the recommendations CASES: PAYMENTS BY RAILWAY of the conference of curriculum officers from all States held on 25th November, DEPARTMENT. 1963, in relation to the introduction of Mr. WILTON (Broadmeadows) decimal currency into the school curricula, asked the Minister of Trans.port- it was decided to take preparatory steps during 1964 to gradually reduce the teach !. How many people involved in level ing of processes involving the use of the crossing accidents have taken legal action current monetary system and that during against the Victorian Railways Commis 1965 pupils in all schools should be intro sioners during each of the years 1954-55 to duced to decimal currency. A notice to 1963-64? Swine Compensation Fun

2. How many cases were-( a) deter CANCER INSTITUTE BOARD. mined by the courts; and (b) settled out of court? SPECIALIST TRAINING: MOBILE CLINICS: VISITS TO COUNTRY AREAS. 3. What amount of money has been paid by the Commissioners as a result of those Mr. R. S. L. McDONALD (Rodney) actions? asked the Assistant Minister of Edu Mr. MEAGHER (Minister of Trans cation, for the Minister of Health- port) .-The answers are- 1. What steps are taken by the Depart ment of Health to train specialist staff for 1. Calendar year 1955 4 the Cancer Institute Board to ensure the Calendar year 1956 6 adequate staffing of mobile clinics? Calendar year 1957 7 2. Whether the visits of these clinics to Calendar year 1958 4 country areas, particularly Echuca, have Calendar year 1959 2 been curtailed; if so, when it is expected Calendar year 1960 22 that normal visits will be resumed? Calendar year 1961 9 Calendar year 1962 8 Mr. ROSSITER (Assistant Minister Calendar year 1963 14 Calendar year 1964 11 of Education) .-The Minister of Health has supplied the following 2. (a) Two. answers:- (b) Thirty. 1. The Department of Health relies on the Cancer Institute Board to train specialist 3. £42,387. staff. Fourteen doctors have been trained in this specialty over the past few years. Currently the Board is advertising for SWINE COMPENSATION FUND. three medical practitioners to undertake a CREDITS AND DEBITS: MAXIMUM two-year course for the Diploma of Radio Therapy for the College of Radiologists of PAYMENT. Australasia or a similar diploma at the Mr. A. T. EVANS (Ballaarat North) University of Melbourne. asked the Minister of Lands, for the 2. Visits to Echuca, Stawell and Ararat have been curtailed. Renewal of normal Minister of Agriculture- visits will be reconsidered when specialist 1. How much money is in the Swine Com staff is available. pensation Fund? 2. How much money was-( a) credited HOUSING COMMISSION. to; and (b) paid out of, the fund in each of LONE-PERSON FLATS AND HOMES FOR the years 1961-62 to 1963-64? THE AGED: CONSTRUCTION: 3. What present maximum payment is APPLICATIONS. allowable out of the fund? Mr. MUTTON (Coburg) asked the Mr. BALFOUR (Minister of Lands). Assistant Minister of Education, for -The Acting Minister of Agriculture the Minister of Housing- has supplied the following answers: - 1. How many lone-person flats were con 1. The amount of money in the Swine structed by the Housing Commission in Compensation Fund as at 30th September, 1963-64 in metropolitan and country areas, 1964, was £208,203 Bs. 9d. respectively? 2. How many flats are currently in the 2. course of construction and at what loca tions? Amount Amount Credited Paid Out 3. What conditions are imposed by the to Fund. from Fund. Commission and municipalities regarding construction of homes for the aged? 4. How many applications for such flats £ 8. d. £ s. d. remain unsatisfied? 1961-62 57,836 3 9 39,216 2 3 Mr. ROSSITER (Assistant Minister 1962-63 73,015 10 10 28,737 10 5 of Education) .-The Minister of Housing has supplied the following 1963-64 74,251 7 1 27,372 8 3 answers:- Lone-person Flats. 3. At present the maximum amount of 1. Metropolitan 120 compensation payable is £20 per pig. Country 63 1168 Motor Car (Fines and Drivers' [ASSEMBLY.] Licence Fees) Bill.

2. Munro-street, Hawthorn 36 ( c) Of the total number of new and Luckie-street, Nunawading 38 vacated houses 50 per cent. are available Horace Petty Estate, Prahran 24 for rental and 50 per cent. for purchase. St. Arnaud . . 6 The above figures apply to the Geelong district and include Norlane and Corio. Total 104 3. Subject to a demand for this type of MOTOR CAR (FINES AND accommodation being established, the Com mission will accept a donation of a suitable DRIVERS' LICENCE FEES) BILL. site on the following conditions, which be Mr. BOLTE (Premier and Trea come the subject of a formal agreement. (a) The council transfers the land to the surer) .-I move- Commission as a gift. That this Bill be now read a second time. (b) The Commission, from its own funds, erects, maintains and administers the flat This Bill implements two of the units. revenue proposals contained in the ( c) The Commission pays rates. Budget. It proposes first to increase ( d) The council to charge normal rates and make an annual donation to the Com drivers' licence fees from 10s. a year mission equal to one-half of the rate received to £1 a year and to credit the amount in respect of the special units erected on of the increase to Consolidated the land donated. Revenue; and, secondly, to credit to ( e) The council accepts the ultimate re sponsibility for garden maintenance. Consolidated Revenue fines for (f) The council has the right to nominate breaches of the Motor Car Act which tenants. under existing legislation go to the (g) The Commission decides on the eligi bility of such nominees and fills vacancies Country Roads Board Fund. where sufficient eligible nominees are not Under the provisions of the Motor provided. Car Act as they stand at present, 4. Metropolitan . . 2,653 Country 271 motor car drivers' licences and motor driving instructors' licences are is HOUSES IN GEELONG: BUILDING AND sued or renewed for a period of three RENTAL. years, and the fees payable on issue Mr. TREZISE (Geelong West) asked or renewal are £1 10s. in the case of the Assistant Minister of Education, a motor car driver's licence and £10 for the Minister of Housing- in the case of an instructor's licence. How many Housing Commission houses in The Act also provides for the issue or Geelong were-(a) let on a rental basis in renewal of a motor cycle learner's each of the years 1954-55 to 1963-64; (b) licence for a limited period of three built in each of the years 1954-55 to 1963- 64; and ( c). built for rental in 1963-64? months, the fee payable being 10s. The revenue received from the issue Mr. ROSSITER (Assistant Minister or renewal of these licences, less the of Education) .-The Minister of cost of collection, is shared equally Housing has supplied the following between the Country Roads Board answer:- Fund and the ·Municipalities Assis ( a) 1954-55 770 tance Fund. 1955-56 444 1956-57 358 The Bill now before the House pro 1957-58 396 vides for the fee payable for a motor 1958-59 379 driver's licence to be increased to the 1959-60 173 1960-61 177 equivalent of £1 per annum, the same 1961-62 262 as in South Australia, Western 1962-63 224 Australia and Tasmania. In New 1963-64 234 ( b) 1954-55 706 South Wales the fee payable is £2 per 1955-56 352 annum. It was proposed in the 1956-57 125 Budget that the full amount of the in 1957-58 152 1958-59 255 crease, namely £1 10s. per licence, 1959-60 81 would go to Consolidated Revenue. 1960-61 15 This Bill implements that proposal 1961-62 185 1962-63 133 and, in future, one-half of the revenue 1963-64 191 from the issue or renewal of motor Motor Oar (Fines and Drivers' [4 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Licence Fees) Bill. 1169 drivers' licence fees will go to Con Refunds in respect of licences solidated Revenue and the remaining issued after the proclamation of this half will be shared equally by the Bill will be paid from Consolidated Country Roads Board Fund and the Revenue and the two funds in the Municipalities Assistance Fund. same proportions as the revenue is The cost of collection of motor shared-that is, one-half from Con drivers' licence fees, formerly shared solidated Revenue and one-quarter equally between the Country Roads each from the Country Roads Board Board Fund and the Municipalities Fund and the Municipalities Assist Assistance Fund will in future be ance Fund. shared as to one-half from Consoli At present, fines for breaches of dated Revenue and one-quarter each the Motor Car Act are paid to the by the other two funds. The intro Country Roads Board Fund pursuant duction of the new fee will not in to the provisions of the Country volve additional costs of collection, Roads Act 1958. In accordance with but as one-half of these costs will, in the Budget proposals, this Bill pro the future, be borne by Consolidated vides for the necessary amendment Revenue, the Country Roads Board of the Country Roads Act so that Fund and the Municipalities Assis these fines will go to Consolidated tance Fund will gain to this extent. Revenue as from 1st July last. The Country Roads Board Fund derived No change is to be made in the fee £350,000 from these fines in 1963-64, payable for a motor driving instruc and an equivalent amount will be tor's licence, and accordingly the made available to the Board from the revenue from the issue or renewal of Loan Fund to compensate for this this licence, less the cost of collec amount. tion, will continue to be shared equally by the Country Roads Board As I indicated in the Budget speech, Fund and the Municipalities Assis the two revenue proposals embodied tance Fund. In addition, no change in this Bill were taken into account is to be made in the present fee for a when the Budget for the current year motor cycle learner's licence. During was prepared. In a full financial the financial year 1963-64, some year these proposals are expected to 400,000 motor drivers' licences were yield additional revenue to the issued or renewed, and on this basis, Budget amounting to roundly after allowing for the cost of collec £900,000. The higher fee will come tion, Consolidated Revenue would re into operation only on the expiration ceive roundly £550,000 from the in of a current driver's licence. crease in this licence fee in a full Mr. ScHINTLER.-The Government financial year. Provision has been will " catch up " when the licence made for the increased licence fees renewal is due? to come into effect on a date to be Mr. BOLTE.-That is so. If a proclaimed. driver is lucky enough to have Section 22n of the Motor Car Act renewed his licence last week, the old currently provides for a refund of rate will apply for the next three portion of the fee paid for a driving years. licence where the licence has been On the motion of Mr. LOVE surrendered under certain circum GROVE (Fitzroy) , the debate was stances. These refunds are now pay adjourned until Wednesday, Novem able in equal parts from the Country ber 11. Roads Board Fund and the Muni cipalities Assistance Fund. Paragraph CONSUMERS PROTECTION BILL. ( b) of clause 2 of the Bill makes pro The debate (adjourned from vision for the payment of refunds to October 6) on the motion of Mr. be continued on this basis in respect Wilcox (Minister of Immigration) of licences issued under the existing for the second reading of this Bill legislation. was resumed. 1110 Consumers Protection [ASSEMBLY.] Bill.

Mr. STONEHAM (Leader of the As I have said, it stems from the complex manner of living nowadays. Until fairly Opposition) .-1 am sure that honor recently, there was no need for a measure able members were disappointed at of this character, but in these days there is the second-reading explanation of a lot of high-pressure living which is, in my this Bill by the Minister of Immigra view, sheer stupidity. tion. Since his elevation from .the As anybody who is conversant with second bench to the front bench, the the scriptures would know, as far Minister of Immigration has shown back as that many biblical quota some signs of promise. The subject tions indicate historical recognition of matter dealt with by this Bill is so attention to be given to the protec important that I expected the honor tion of consumers. able gentleman to make a serious attempt to give a detailed and ade Mr. W1Lcox.-What are the quota quate explanation to the House. tions? However, the greater portion of his Mr. STONEHAM.-lt is not my in speech consisted of the quotation of tention to try to educate the Minister article 849 of the famous Molony of Immigration in respect of biblical report in Great Britain, and to tacitly matters. However, I direct his atten admit why the Bill was introduced tion to a statement made on the 20th during the week preceding the South May last year by Mr. David Price, Eastern Province by-election. Parliamentary Secretary to the Board Mr. W1Lcox.-Reference to this of Trade in the House of Commons. measure was contained in the At that time, the Molony report was Premier's policy speech. under discussion. Mr. Price stated- We ought to be clear that although the Mr. STONEHAM.-That is so, but subject of consumer protection is very much apparently it was hurriedly brought " in " at present, there is nothing new about it. In some form or other we have had con to mind with the approach of the by sumer protection for a very long time. We election for the South-Eastern Pro have to go back to the early Middle Ages• vince. The Bill was " slapped to trace the beginnings of our own consumer together." in record time, and the protection law. There has been a steady development and extension of such laws honorable gentleman gave an ex ever since. I had something to say about tremely brief and inadequate second this on the second reading of the Weights reading explanation. and Measures Bill, earlier this session. Mr. DUNSTAN.-How would you In New Zealand for some time there improve it? has been an Act relating to consumer Mr. STONEHAM.-In Frankston protection, and in the background in the honorable member for Morning formation to the introduction of that ton claimed credit for the origin of legislation there appears this com the measure. His interjection while ment- The need for a consumer organization in the Minister was making his second New Zealand was understood by individuals reading explanatory speech was a many years ago, and attempts were made complete admission of the purpose unsuccessfully as early as the 1930's to for which the Bill was introduced. form such an organization. The Opposition takes a much more The strange part of the second serious view of this Bill, and it dis reading explanation of the Minister agrees entirely with the attitude of of Immigration is that he made no the Minister of Immigration that this reference to the magnificent efforts proposal is something new, and that of the Australian Consumers Asso ciation, which, since 1960, has been the Government is pioneering an doing a wonderful job on behalf of innovation. The honorable gentleman Australian consumers. I am sure stated-- honorable members are conversant This Bill is a product of modern methods with its splendid monthly publication of merchandising, mass-production, and high-pressure advertising and living. Choice, which, forthrightly and with out any fear, publishes the results of Consumers Protection [4 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Bill. 1171 tests that are made on the: widest In the terms submitted to the possible range of goods and services. Statute Law Revision Committee, the The result is that consumers are Molony report was specifically re guided as to the particular brands of ferred to, as was the campaign that mechandise they should purchase. In is being conducted by the Radio, a moment I shall enumerate the Electrical and Television Retailers council of the Australian Consumers Association of Victoria. This is the Association. It comprises mostlyr body known as Retra. These honest scientific people who serve the com dealers have been conducting a cam munity in an honorary capacity. paign for the protection of the These persons are not engaged in owners of television sets, who have industry, advertising or merchandiz been robbed on all sides by a few ing. The Australian Consumers unscrupulous television service Association buys goods from retail firms. Members on this side of the shops as any other consumer does. It House have always averred in that does not buy wholesale, or accept respect that all these firms should manufacturers' samples. It has no be registered and that television connexion with any manufacturer or servicemen should be licensed. distributor who provides consumer goods or services. The goods are The document addressed to the submitted to a panel of experts, who Statute Law Revision Committee arrange for the necessary testing to specifically referred to the Molony be carried out. As with the con report and the activities of Retra sumer organizations overseas, this whose object is to bring about some will largely be done on a contract reforms on behalf of the public. But basis by suitable laboratories under now this Bill has appeared " out of the Australian Consumers Associa the blue." A complete lack of co tion expert panel. The aim is ulti ordination is apparent. Obviously mately to set up expert testing or the explanation is that this measure ganizations within the association it was produced as an election stunt. self, but, even so, certain specialist The Bill itself is so inherently weak tests would have to be done else and ineffective that no doubt it was where. a contributing factor to the tragic re sult that the Government obtained in As I have said, the association has the recent by-election and the made forthright comments on lead glorious victory which the Opposi ing products in the Australian tion was able to record. economy, and naturally this is a vital force in the life of the com What is the Government doing munity. To the best of my know about the report of the Cuthill Board ledge no legal action has ever been of Inquiry? Surely this is a directly taken against these people for the related matter. If the Government dissemination of incorrect informa had been sincere and serious about tion, but they may possibly have this proposed legislation, obviously been threatened at times by un the Minister in charge of the Bill scrupulous firms. Although this would have told the House some organization is already function thing about all these things. Before ing in our midst, the Minister said I conclude I shall foreshadow some nothing about it and made no com amendments to be moved by the ment on enlisting the co-operation or Opposition at the appropriate stage. support of this body in the Govern They are designed to enlist the sup ment's present attempt to protect port and co-operation of the or consumers. It is also strange that ganization that I mentioned. I think the Minister made no mention of the this body, together with other parties fact that a Parliamentary committee whom I shall mention, should be rep -the Statute Law Revision Com resented on the consumers council. mittee-is currently investigating I hope I have made it clear that the misleading advertising. Minister not only went off half-cocked 1172 Consumers Protection [ASSEMBLY.] Bill.

in regard to the Bill but that he was these people make up an association also inadequately informed on this which is a member of the Inter particular subject. I do not know national Office of Consumer Unions. whether the Minister has any interest in it. It would seem from the reply In 1929, the first of the modern con that the honorable gentleman made sumer organizations was established to some members of the Opposition, in the United States of America. It who sought information about the was called Consumer Research Incor Bill, that he was completely unwilling porated. It followed largely the effect or unable to furnish the information. upon the public of that famous book The Minister challenged those honor of Stuart Chase entitled The Tragedy able members to say what they of Waste, which was published in thought about the measure. I think 1926. Another book entitled Your its presentation to the House has Money's Worth by Chase and F. J. been a downright disgrace. Schlink was published in 1927. The immense flood of popular support The Opposition will submit con that followed the publication structive amendments, which it hopes of these two books led to the Government will accept, that are the setting up of Consumer Re designed to greatly improve the Bill. search Incorporated. Slink had always It can truthfully be said that the sub advocated very strongly the estab ject of consumer protection has al lishment of testing stations, where ways been very prominently in the goods could be scientifically and minds of Opposition members right expertly analysed and tested, and from the inception of our party and the results of these investiga the beginning of the trade union tions published. The great Con movement. sumers Union of the United States The only extent to which the Mini Incorporated came into existence in ster is correct in saying that this is 1936 out of Consumer Research In a new problem is the fact that, in corporated. This is a very powerful recent years, this very powerful con force indeed in American life. It has sumer movement that I adverted to well over 1,000,000 members and a has emerged in the community. large expert staff, elaborate labora Whereas in the past there was a tories and a monthly journal entitled piecemeal approach to various aspects Consumer Report. of the subject, throughout the world While the position goes back to to-day there is a united, co-ordinated 1929 in the United States of America, attack on the vast problems of pro in Great Britain the organization tecting consumer interests. Mr. known as Consumers Association Speaker, I am sure that you are aware Limited was not established until 1957. that, in 1960, an International Office Its monthly journal is called Which. of Consumer Unions was formed in That body has some hundreds of Brussels. It comprised seventeen thousands of members. The journal member associations from fifteen is conducted on similar lines to countries. I am pleased to note that Choice, which has such a magnificent two of the Ministers are .bringing record in Australia. In New Zealand, themselves as up to date as one could the consumer council was established expect by perusing these excellent by the Government in 1959. It is per publications issued by the Australian forming a most useful service to the Consumers Association, which now public in every respect, and I have has about 55,000 members. Choice already referred to the background was first published in April, 1960, document which was issued at the and on its council there is a group of time of the introduction of the Bill and highly competent scientists and ex which indicated that as early as 1930 perts in consumer problems. I have attempts had been made to form a already mentioned that, in the public consumers organization. Yet the interest and in an honorary capacity, Minister had the audacity to come to Mr. Stoneham. Consumers Protection [4 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Bill. 1173 the House and try to misrepresent American worker. In its issue of what the Government was proposing March, 1964, it published the follow as something new and pioneering. ing extract of President Johnson's The very reverse is the actual posi " Consumer Message to Con tion. Therefore, this very unsatis gress'':- factory Bill is not a credit to the As a worker, as a businessman, as a Government in any way. farmer, as a lawyer or doctor, the citizen has been well represented. But as a con I wish to refer very briefly to the sumer he has had to take a backseat. That Molony report on consumer protec situation is changing. The consumer is moving forward. We cannot rest content tion. In paragraph 891 it is stated- until he is in the front row. The business of making and selling is highly organized, often in large units, and Over the centuries there have been calls to its aid at every step complex and many developments in regard to con highly expert skills. The business of buying is conducted by the smallest unit, the indi sumer protection, but they have been vidual consumer, relying on the guidance largely of a piecemeal nature. I can afforded by experience, if he possesses it, list headings. First, there were and, if not, on instinctive but not always the pure foods and other Acts of rational thought processes. The capacity of Parliament designed to protect con sales staff in shops to help the consumer has deteriorated. The manufacturer and the sumers against hazards to health and distributor, in a country dependent on ex safety; secondly, the weights and ports, speak with a well-organized and measures legislation; thirdly, the powerful voice in national affairs. The labelling and marking of mer interests of the consumer are sometimes overlooked because he is voiceless. The chandise and trade descriptions of need for consumers to organize themselves goods and services and their quality; was first expressed in the genesis of the fourthly, the vital matter of securing co-operative movement. truth in advertising; fifthly, hire Of course, the Labour movement has purchase agreements; and, sixthly, always been most closely identified the question of restrictive trade prac with the co-operative movement, tices and the effects of monopoly which was established in 1844 by control of sectors of industry and Robert Owen, the great genius of that commerce. pioneering period. The paragraph In America, in Great Britain, and in continues- the thirteen other countries affiliated When traders combine, or a single trader with the International Office of Con buys on a large scale, there is no doubt about the capacity of the purchaser to pro sumer Unions there is emerging this tect himself. tremendous movement of the co ordination of all these headings and I shall now quote some remarks of others which affect in any way at President Johnson. Before doing so, all the interests of the consumer. may I say that it is very good to This is evidenced by the action taken know, from preliminary election by various Governments to establish results to-day, that he is very well on the way, apparently, to being councils, and so on. elected to office with a landslide Mr. W1Lcox.-There are no other victory similar to that which the consumers councils in Australia, are Labour Party enjoyed in the recent there? South-Eastern Provjnce by-election. Labour's Economic Review, a publi Mr. STONEHAM.-The Minister cation of the A.F.L.-C.I.0. has still not explained the true posi America's trade union organization tion. What he is asserting now is -reveals that the trade union beside the point. The Cuthill Board movement in America recognizes of Inquiry had among its terms of that the question of consumer reference the following: - protection is a most vital aspect (a) the requirements of and the prac tices adopted or considered desir of its responsibility, as it affects able by manufacturers in Australia; the standard of living of the and 1174 Consumers Protection [ASSEMBLY.] Bill.

(b) the requirements of consumers with consumers' representative should be regard to- appointed after consultation with the (i) the standardization of classes Country Women's Association, and of packaged goods in terms of weight or measure; and the third after consultation with (ii) the marking of classes of housewives' organizations. I under packaged goods in terms stand there is more than one organi of weight or measure, and zation involved. The fourth member all relevant considerations of this group should be a representa and factors relating thereto tive of the Melbourne Trades Hall and w~thout limiting the gen.eral~ty C?f the foregoing Council. Such members would repre to mqmre mto and report sent focal points of consumer interest. upon- Mr. WIL'cox.-Are you suggesting Then follow seven different headings. four additional members? Mr. W1Lcox.-But no consumers Mr. STONEHAM.-! am suggesting council has been set up anywhere else four members, instead of two. It will in Australia. be only a. mental exercise, which ap Mr. STONEHAM.-The Minister is parently 1s what the Government in just trying to divert attention from tended, so far as the consumer coun the fact that in his second-reading cil is concerned, unless the council speech he made no reference what has " teeth " with which to attack ever to the Cuthill report, nor to the these very complex problems. Con fact that the Statute Law Revision sequently, the Opposition proposes to move that the new council shall en ~ommittee is inquiring into the ques tion of misleading advertising. For joy the same rights as would be given some strange reason, he also made to a Board of Inquiry. In other words no reference to the activities of the the Opposition contends that th~ Australian Consumers Association. council should have the right to sum mon people and demand the produc This proves conclusively that this Bill tion by witnesses of documents. I is not a serious and genuine attempt realize that this is a powerful move to grapple with the problem. As I towards bringing about organized said earlier, it was just tossed in as protection for the consumer, and a pre-election stunt. great resp~ns~bility will de~olve upon At this stage I wish to foreshadow the council m the exercise of its amendments which the Labour Party po~er. It w!ll be necessary to ap proposes to move. The Bill provides, pomt as chairman of the council a very vaguely, that two members of person who can be relied upon to see the proposed council shall be persons that this power will be used properly. appointed to represent consumers, at least one of whom shall be a woman. The Opposition also considers that The Government is prepared to let it the council's annual reports as dis go at that, despite the fact that manu tinct ~rom its administrative' reports, facturers and retailers representatives of which I assume there will be many are already designated in the Bill as and which would be forwarded to the representing particular interests. We Minister at any time during the year consider that, instead of two repre should not be pigeon-holed and held sentatives of consumers there should up for months by the Minister. We be four, one of whom should be selec consider that the annual reports ted after consultation with the Aus should be released immediately, and, tralian Consumers Association. By at the Committee stage, we shall sub that means, the activities of the coun mit an appropriate amendment to en cil would be co-ordinated with those sure that this policy will be adopted. of the Asssociation, thus obtaining If the Minister desires to assist the the benefit of all the experience, skill consumers of this State, he will agree and expert knowledge the Association that the Opposition's foreshadowed has gained. We think that the second amendments are most constructive Consumers Protection [4 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Bill. 1175 and that he should have thought of the Minister and by the Leader of the them before introducing the Bill. I Opposition. It came from the Old know the honorable gentleman will Country as a result of an inquiry be big enough to admit that the ideas undertaken by the Board of Trade, embraced in the Opposition's amend which submitted certain recom ments will greatly improve the mendations to the British Parliament. measure. For this reason, I believe Some of those recommendations, in the Government will accept the Op cluding one for the establishment of position's amendments. I could say a consumers council, were adopted. a great deal more on this important This example has been followed in subject but, before doing so, I should Victoria because it was the policy of like to hear the Minister's reaction to the Liberal Party to recommend to the proposals which I have submitted. the Premier that, during the election campaign, the party should make a Mr. MOSS (Leader of the Country feature of the proposed appointment Party) .-This Bill is designed to of a consumers council by means of establish a Consumers Protection legislative action. This measure will Council. The Government proposes implement the promise which was that the council, which shall consist made to the people by the Premier of five members, will have power to during the last election campaign. By take evidence. It is proposed that the members of the council, other than interjection, the honorable member those who are members of the Public for Mornington claimed that the idea Service, shall be paid fees and travel of a consumers council originated in ling allowances. There is also pro his electorate. I think I have vision in the Bill whereby a report accurately recited the facts of the shall be furnished annually to the origin of this proposal. Minister for submission to Parliament. The Leader of the Opposition sug The council will be empowered to gested several ways in which this make recommendations. Although it legislation could be improved. I was may seem that the functions of the rather impressed with some of the council will be somewhat limited, the honorable member's suggestions. The definition of the word " consumer " Government proposes that the coun is all-embracing. A reliable English cil shall consist of five members, but dictionary that I have consulted de the Leader of the Opposition argued fines a consumer as one that utilizes that an additional two members economic goods, while the word should be appointed to it. What are "consume" means "to take com the pros and cons of this situation? pletely, to destroy or to do away It is true that if the size of the coun with." The word "consumer" has a cil is enlarged, additional expenditure wide meaning and, when the council will be incurred. Great value could is set up, it could, with the approval be derived by increasing the member of the Minister, investigate almost ship of the council from five to seven. anything. For example, the council The Bill is somewhat vague concern could investigate salaries of members ing the actual membership of the pro of Parliament, or the fact that the posed new council. The Leader of price of the Herald increased by ld. the Opposition has specified not that to 4d. as from last Monday. There is a panel of names be submitted from nothing to prevent the council from whom the council members shall be investigating matters of this type, provided that it obtains Ministerial selected, but that the appointments approval before doing so. should be made after consultation with certain organizations. Possibly In the course of the debate, some several organizations will need to be suggestions have been made as to consulted by the Minister before the origin of this measure which will appointments are actually made. The set up a Consumers Protection Coun honorable gentleman should give this cil. The origin has been explained by matter his careful consideration. 1176 Consumers Protection (ASSEMBLY.] Bill.

Paragraph (a) of sub-clause (1) of terests. In my opinion, these mem clause 4 provides that the function of bers should reside more than 50 the council shall be to investigate miles from Melbourne. If such any matter affecting the interests of action is taken, or even if the Minis consumers which is referred to it by ter gives an assurance that country the Minister. This provision is a areas will be represented, I shall be definite weakness in the Bill. Unless happy to accept the position. There the Minister refers a particular mat have been many examples in the past ter to the council-it could relate to of persons being appointed to com the labelling of wire, or something of mittees but having their member that nature-the council has no ship restricted because they lived power to investigate a particular sub outside the metropolitan area. ject. It would be better to allow the Therefore, it is desirable that a council to exercise some initiative in definite assurance be given in this this respect. If, in the course of its regard. In his second-reading speech investigations, the council obtains the Minister referred to the fact that certain information, it is only right there was power to summon wit and proper that it should say to the nesses, but I cannot see anything Minister, "We have certain evidence about that in the Bill. with respect to the labelling of wire," Mr. WILCOX.-! do not think I said or whatever the commodity may be, that. and the initiative for investigating the Mr. MOSS.-I withdraw the state matter would thereby emanate from ment; the honorable gentleman re the council, rather than the Minister. ferred to power to hear evidence. Mr. SUGGETT.-What about para For a council to operate satisfac graph (b) of sub-clause (1) of clause torily it needs power to summon a 4? witness and, if he refuses to appear, the council should have power Mr. MOSS.-The honorable mem similar to that contained in the Evi ber should read paragraph (a) of dence Act, as was suggested by the sub-clause ( 1) which limits the Leader of the Opposition. There council to investigations of matters fore, I suggest that such provision be referred to it by the Minister. In my included in the Bill. If a person can opinion, further encouragement say to the council, " Thank you should be given to the council. very much for your invitation to Instead of making it mandatory for appear, but I will not appear," the the Minister to tell the council to power of the council will be investigate such and such a matter, seriously limited. So, again I urge the council should investigate various the Minister to consider the sugges matters subject to the approval of the tion made by the Leader of the Oppo Minister. If that were done the sition. council would work much better than Those are the main features of the I anticipate it will under the pro Bill as I see them. In my view, the posals envisaged in the Bill. Bill in its present form does not go The Minister and the Leader of far enough, but perhaps the Minister the Opposition discussed at length holds the view that we should pro who should be represented on ceed cautiously in this particular the council in order to give a field. If this is a principle which proper spread of representation, but should be adopted by Parliament, we should be satisfied that so far as pos neither of them suggested that re sible it will serve the purpose for presentation should be such as to which it was established. ensure that the council will be Sub-clause (2) of clause 4 pro State-wide. Therefore, I suggest vides- that consideration be given by the Any reference in this section to the ex Minister to including one or two pression " matter affecting the interest of members representing country in- consumers" shall, without affecting the Consumers Protection [4 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Bill. 1177 generality of the expression, be construed other affected bodies, action to be taken to as including a reference to any practices deal with such problems and to safeguard used in connexion with the advertising the interests of consumers, as well as to marketing packaging or labelling of goods make recommendations if necessary. or any matter relating to their fitness for the purpose for which they are offered for That is admirable, but the obvious sale. defect is that the Minister to whom That is a strange provision to be in recommendations will be made will cluded in a Bill because it does not be under no prescribed obligation to limit the operation of the definition adopt them, however important they of the Consumers Protection Council may be in the interests of consumers. as proposed, but emphasizes that Mr. G. 0. REm.-Does that provi particular aspect. I shall be pleased sion appear in any other Act? to hear what the Minister or any other member of the Govern Mr. SUTTON.-! do not know. ment has to say as to the reason for There is wisdom in the proposal that such a provision being included in the council should report its findings the Bill. periodically through the Minister to Parliament. The report may be This measure could become valu the means of exposing nefarious able legislation for the benefit of the practices by sellers, or of gross over people of this State, because modern charging, or of calculated misrepre methods of marketing demand the sentations, but of itself it will do no provision of some safeguard. So, if more than is done at present by the a consumers committee is estab magazine Choice, the official publica lished and functions satisfactorily, it tion of the Australian Consumers could be of tremendous assistance to Association, to which the Leader of the Government, which in the final the Opposition referred at length. analysis has to take action along the That magazine has recorded many lines recommended. extraordinary happenings and has Mr. SUTTON (Albert Park.)-This never been sued for damages. This, Bill will become an Act in the legis I think, is a fact of considerable lative sense of the word, but unless significance. additional strength is imported to it It will be noted that the members by amendments, it will have little of the council are to be appointed, in more substance than a gesture of accordance with methods new to this goodwill towards consumers, a sort State, by the Minister; who, I under of political tour de force. The open stand, is to be the Attorney-General. ing words of the Minister's speech They are to be selected for their indi were- vidual merit, much as in the case of the This Bill is a product of modem methods council for the La Trobe University, of merchandising, mass production, and coupled with experience in the circles high-pressure advertising and living. from which they are taken. What He would have spoken more precisely kind of merit is envisioned? Does if he had said it is a belated product this loosely us·ed term signify busi of widespread revolt against those ness ability, skill in analysis, success things; but why a Government which in trading, or character-or all four? extols the so-called blessings of Any remedy for the existing disturb private enterprise should be prepared ing situation will rest largely on the to curb its workings and avert its application of business ethics if there inevitable consequences presents a is any commonly accepted such thing. baffling contradiction in attitudes. If the council pronounces on the We are told that the functions of merits of the goods offered to the the proposed council will be- public and secures sufficient publicity To consider matters affecting the interests for its finding, it will do a highly of consumers, inform itself of their prob meritorious job. But what then? WilJ lems, and consider, after consultation with consumers respect its warnings; or 1178 Consumers Protection [ASSEMBLY.] Bill. will they continue to be victimized by Mr. SUGGETT (Moorabbin).-1 what the Minister has aptly called should like briefly to support the Bill. high-pressure advertising? Its purpose is to set up a Consumers Protection Council, and although it This is on an enormous scale. At may appear rather nebulous, I believe a seminar held in Sydney recently it it could well be the genesis of some was estimated that some £125,000,000 thing really worth while. The Leader a year is spent on exploiting the buy of the Opposition referred at length ing power of teenagers-" Get 'em at to the Australian Consumers Associa the get age " is an American slogan tion, which apparently appears to be -and that the yield in sales from doing quite good work. Quite this amounts to £500,000,000 a year. frankly, I was not aware of its exis It is agreeable to read that the ad tence and, until this proposal was vertising industry-by that expres made, I rather doubt whether the sion, I suppose, is meant persons and Leader of the Opposition was either. companies that make commercial Judging by interjections made by publicity their profession-is to in several Ministers and members, I do troduce a code of ethics which will go not think many were previously at least some way towards banning aware of its existence. misleading advertising in the press and on radio and television. Some of In Canada there is a very good it, I point out, is in disgustingly bad organization known as the Better taste. Business Bureau. It is conducted by Since price control was abolished private enterprise, and one of its in Victoria, prices have got wildly out main objects is to ensure honesty in of hand. Everybody who knows advertising. If a firm wilfully mis anything about current mark-up leads the public by means of its ad vertising, it is brought to heel. If a schedules knows that they are fixed firm refused to come to heel, the by agreement between wholesale and Better Business Bureau would insert retail organizations or by duress on an advertisement in the press point the part of wholesalers. Yet the ing out to the public that the firm Government sets its face rigidly was publishing misleading advertise against any form of price control at ments, and it would not be very long a legislative level. before any business enterprise behav Shameful tyranny is exercised ing in this way saw the light of reason. against manufacturers who violate terms laid down by private oligarchies Action of this sort is needed in for the market prices of their goods. Victoria, where there is falsity in If any honorable member doubts this, advertising, particularly among re he may be referred to two striking pairers of television sets and used-car examples cited in the House of Rep salesmen. Used-car houses advertise resentatives by Mr. Chipp on 27th for sale cars they do not in fact pos September last. sess. I have had personal experience of this. Being a member of Parlia The Australian Broadcasting Con ment, I could not afford to buy a new trol Board has issued a set of regula car and I was looking around for a tions governing advertisements in its second-hand one. I went to a used field, but it does not seem to have car yard which advertised extensively taken adequate action to police them. -I shall not mention any names. I Some of the advertisements should took with me a copy of a certain be instantly and contemptuously re evening newspaper-I shall not give jected as offensive to a community it a free plug either-in which was that has had 90 years of compulsory advertised a late model car. I took education. An aspect of the Bill that with me a friend who knew a little needs rectifying is that no provision more about cars than I did and we is explicitly made in it for funds for asked to have a look at this particular the functioning of the council. vehicle. The salesman showed me Mr. Sutton. Consumers Protection [4 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Bill. 1179 various cars and elaborated on their has the right to do anything else good points. I asked about the car which in its opinion is calculated to that was advertised. He said they did protect the interests of consumers. not have that sort of car. I pointed The Leader of the Country Party out that it had been advertised, but referred also to sub-clause (2) of the salesman insisted that they did clause 4 and wondered why it was not have that type of car at all. included. It reads- Thinking that something like this Any reference in this section to the ex might happen, I had the newspaper pression " matter affecting the interest of with me and showed him the consumers" shall, without affecting the advertisement. He repeated that they generality of the expression, be construed did not have that car. I said, "Do as including a reference to any practices used in connexion with the advertising you mean to say that you advertise marketing packaging or labelling of goods cars that you do not have?" He or any matter relating to their fitness for replied " Everybody does." Whether ihe purpose for which they are offered for that fact condoned this type of sale. advertising, I do not know, but that It is necessary for the proposed seemed to be the practice. Consumers Protection Council to be somewhat restrictive in the job it has I heard of a gentleman who to do, otherwise it could investigate telephoned this same used-car any matter considered to affect the house from across the road public in any way, including, as the and it is a narrow road Leader of the Country Party said, asking if a particular car that was the subject of Parliamentary salaries. advertised was still available. He was I think the Bill contains a reasonable told that it was. He immediately limitation of the work of the council. walked across the road to the yard, but even in that short time the car The Leader of the Opposition has apparently had been disposed of. In suggested enlargement of the council. my opinion, the State can do with It seems to me that whenever a Bill proposing the appointment of a coun some organization such as the Aus cil or committee is brought before tralian Consumers Association or the the House, there is a tendency on the council proposed to be set up by the part of certain members to want to Government. At least its existence enlarge its membership. I do not should have a salutary effect on think efficiency would necessarily manufacturers or anyone else who result from having seven members might think of misleading the public. instead of five. I listened attentively to the speech made by the Leader of The Leader of the Country Party the Opposition, but I was not quite has suggested that the Bill does not clear in my mind whether or not he go far enough. He complained that was in favour of the Bill, but the council would be limited to any apparently the Opposition will sup matter referred to it by the Minister. port it. I think the establishment of That is not quite so, because para a Consumers Protection Council will graph (b) of sub-clause (1) of clause be worth while, but its efficiency 4 provides that the council shall would not be improved by adding to make recommendations with respect its membership, even if opportunities to any matter calculated to protect were created for the appointment of the interests of consumers. It may members of the Trades Hall Council. be that the sub-clause would be Mr. WILKEs.-An estate agent clearer if the word " or " were added might be included as a member of between the various paragraphs. It the council. will be the function of the council to Mr. SUGGETT.-! do not think it investigate any matter affecting the matters much who constitutes the interest of consumers referred to it council so long as the integrity of its by the Minister, but the council also members is beyond doubt. 1180 Consumers Protection [ASSEMBLY.] Bill.

Mr. DIVERS.-And their ability. Mr. DIVERS.-lt might be, but I am concerned with the power of the Mr. SUGGETT.-That is so. This council. Under this Bill the council council will be appointed by the will not be given the right to summon Minister who, no doubt, will select the witnesses before it and to take from best people available, irrespective of them evidence on oath. The council their occupation or how far they live will certainly be empowered to in from the city. Surely we can rely vestigate any matter affecting the in on the Minister to act honestly in terest of consumers, which is exactly endeavouring to appoint the best what the Australian Consumers people available. This Bill contains Association does. For the past three the genesis of something which years I have received copies of could be worth while. We are Choice, and I am aware of the tre simply following the establishment

Mr. SCHINTLER.-That is what we person who buys goods for his own want to know. personal use or consumption-it pro Mr. JONA.-1 should like to think poses a protection for the typical my interpretation of the Bill is cor housewife and the small consumer rect, and that the council, as pro who are often hoodwinked by un posed, will not have this power. It desirable methods. is dangerous to vest with such power The Molony report also considered any body that is not responsible to the interests of small and large busi Parliament. nesses that buy merchandise in com mercial quantities. These firms may Mr. SCHINTLER.-lf that is the be likened to domestic consumers, case, nobody would take any notice in some respects, but in the main of the council. they require protection of a different Mr. JONA.-The Consumers Pro kind from that affecting the ordinary tection Council should advise the consumer. An extension of the term Minister. " consumer " could well be included in this Bill. At this stage, however, Mr. SuTTON.-That is provided for. it is wise that terms are not defined Mr. JONA.-That is so. It must be or limited more precisely. I know remembered that, as the Leader of the the Opposition desires that the Bill Opposition stated, over the years should be more precise. It has also large-scale and piecemeal legislation been suggested that the size of the such as the Health Act, the Drugs council should be increased from five Act, the Stock Foods Act and the to seven members and that a repre Proprietary Medicines Act has been sentative of the Trades Hall Council enacted to protect the interests of should be included. If the council consumers. These Acts have not were to investigate a matter in which been passed to protect the manu the Trades Hall Council had a vital facturer or the retailer. interest, the advice of that body could be sought. There are other Adverting to an interjection by the organizations that could claim repre honorable member for Yarraville, I sentation if a particular commodity now refer to article 869 of the or subject in which they have an Molony report relating to attention to interest was being investigated. enforcement. At page 285 of that report, it is stated- Mr. SCHINTLER.-None of those Acts and regulations are of little value organizations would represent more unless they are observed. A major cause of people than does the Trades Hall consumer weakness in the past has lain in Council. the inadequate enforcement of the many laws in his favour. We make proposals to Mr. JONA.-lt is proposed that remedy this, but we think that the consumer there shall be on the council two con council must be on guard against indiffer sumer representatives, both of whom ence and disinclination to act on the part of prosecuting authorities, and should use its could be from the Trades Hall influence to correct such a tendency if it Council. Do not let us set up the appears. We are not prepared to recom Trades Hall Council on the one side mend making these authorities directly and the rest of the community on the responsible to the council or establishing any formal link between them. other side. The Government is now seeking to Mr. SuTTON.-The measure pro remedy the inadequacy of the exist poses representation in the interests ing laws. In the interests of the con of manufacturers. sumer, sub-clause (2) of clause 4 Mr. JONA.-That is so. The manu proposes to cover a wide field in facturer and the retailer are two connexion with undesirable practices distinct links in the line of communi in advertising, marketing, packaging cation from production to consumer or labelling of goods. The measure along which any of the charges of is designed primarily to protect the unfair practices could be directed. Consumers Protection [4 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Bill. 1183

Mr. HOLLAND.-They would be re to single out one, two, three sponsible for the unfair practices. or more additional groups in the community to be represented. Mr. JONA.-That could be so, but All consumers are entitled to repre there are many other interests that sentation. However, I believe that could well be represented. No doubt if the right people are appointed to the Leader of the Country Party could the council, the views of all groups suggest that specific country interests will be taken into consideration. I should be represented because items consider that this is the real basis such as tractors and farm machinery and fundamental feature of the Bill. which are peculiar to country areas, are involved. However, the Bill pro It is true that consumer councils poses that the council may consult have operat~d with some success in with manufacturers, retailers and the United Kingdom, Denmark, Nor advertisers in any field whatsoever. way, Holland and New Zealand. I Mr. HOLDING.-What happens if do not know whether similar bodies have subsequently been set up in they do not want to consult? other countries. Experience in each Mr. JONA.-It depends on the of the countries I have mentioned capacity of the people that are has shown that a consumer council appointed. performs a useful purpose. This Mr. D1vERS.-You agree that they purpose differentiates it from an or ganization such as the Australian have no " teeth "? Consumers Association and the Mr. JONA.-1 do not agree that magazine Choice, in a way which I they have no teeth, but, although I think is important. I should like to believe there is merit in the think that the proposed council will Opposition's argument that the not set itself up as a body to measure Trades Hall Council should be standards and to make quality tests. represented, a similar argument This would be only one aspect of its could be advanced in regard to functions, whereas an organization a hundred other organizations in the like the Australian Consumers Asso community, and their representation ciation, if what I understand about it would be completely impracticable. is correct, has the prime function of For example, why should not the satisfying itself that the claims made Labour Party, the Country Party or for a product are consistent with the the Liberal Party be represented? quality of the product. Of course, this is a most important aspect, but Mr. STONEHAM (Leader of the it is by no means the most important Opposition) .-Mr. Speaker, is the one. Quality testing can also have honorable member for Hawthorn in its limitations. If an organization order in discussing the proposed like the proposed council had power amendment during the second-reading to act on such things as quality tests, debate? harm could result in many ways. The SPEAKER (Sir William First, the council could limit and not increase standards. This could bring McDonald).-The honorable member about all sorts of problems. Under is not in order in dealing with the the power that is to be vested in point in detail during this debate. the council, and more particularly in Discussion of the detail of the amend the Minister, qualified people who ment should be left to the Committee are able to advise the council on stage. quality testing and on the mainten Mr. JONA (Hawthorn).-My point ance of standards will, I believe, be i~ that the proposed council must be called in for consultation, and this, restricted to a reasonable size. If it is too, will be an important function of not restricted to the number provided the council. But it will not be neces for in the Bill, it would be wrong sarily the most important function of 1184 Consumers Protection [ASSEMBLY.] Bill. the council, as it is in the case of the council is to be consistent and to the Australian Consumers Associa have the valid intention that I know tion. the Minister desires to provide for in the Bill, I believe there should be Mr. WILKES.-Many industries some legal enforcement under the conform to standards now. Evidence Act or other relevant legis Mr. JONA.-1 am aware of that. lation for this purpose. I support the I believe this is necessary in the case Bill, which is an essential measure to of many commodities and lines where protect consumers from the ever a minimum standard is essential for growing problems which flow from either the health of the community prosperity, high-pressure selling and or for the basic and fundamental intense competition. need of consumers. But when con sideration is given to standards for Mr. HOLLAND.-And malpractice. such a commodity as a motor car Mr. JONA.-And from malpractice, or a television set, I think and ignorance by the consumer of his all this council is interested in rights. I do not agree with the Leader is in advising whether it is a good of the Opposition, who stated that or a bad motor car or television set. the Minister had referred to the mat Then the consumer can decide ter dealt with in the Bill as a new whether or not he wants to buy a problem. Indeed, the Leader of the third-rate or a first-rate set. We Opposition suggested that this ques should not set up an organization to tion goes back to the days of Adam ensure that every television set will and Eve. Probably it does. I do not be a first-class one. Members of the think the Minister would contend for public should be enabled to decide one moment that this is a new prob whether they want to pay £250 or lem. It is an old problem, but it is £20 for a set, according to its adver one which, as a result of changed tised quality. I do not know whether circumstances and conditions-which this aspect is covered by legislation, have made things so difficult for the but, in the case of the £20 set, I think consumer in these times of high the council should inform the Govern pressure-requires new means, new ment concerning the accuracy of the methods and a new approach. I relevant advertisement. strongly commend the Bill to the I should like to refer to only House. one point raised by the Opposi Mr. HOLDING (Richmond).- tion, namely, the power of the coun There seems to be some misunder cil to summon witnesses to give evi standing by Government supporters dence before it. I believe that unless on the attitude adopted by the the council has this power its in Opposition to this measure. First, let fluence and capabilities will be les me reiterate what the Leader of the sened to a very large extent. Opposition said, that we support, in Mr. SCHINTLER.-lt could be side- principle, the whole concept of con stepped. - sumer protection and the establish ment of a Consumers Protection Mr. JONA.-1 agree. I consider Council. But we do not support the that the Minister should give serious woolly-headed approach adopted by consideration to this aspect. Many the Government in introducing this people who were called before the Bill. Its title-Consumers Protection council as witnesses, and who for some reason best known to them Bill-implies that consumers need selves declined to accept, might protection. If that is so, the question suffer untold harm and damage if is: From what groups in the com they did not attend; there might also munity do the consumers need pro be many instances in which this tection? I should think all honorable would not be the case. If the accept members would be in agreement that ance of evidence at the hearings of consumers need protection from those Consumers Protection [4 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Bill. 1185 manufacturing, retailing and adver The SPEAKER (Sir William tising organizations, which, by a McDonald).-Order! Members on the variety of high-pressure tactics and Government side of the House will skills, are ready to sell to the buying have ample opportunity of refuting public goods that they cannot the statements of the honorable adequately use and at prices which, member for Richmond by speaking to in many cases, they cannot afford. the Bill, if they so desire, and not by way of interjection. The difference in opinion regard ing this legislation between those Mr. HOLDING.-It must also be on the Opposition side of the pointed out that many of the large House and that already expressed retail establishments in Melbourne by Government supporters is that also have manufacturing interests. members of the Labour Party believe In the big retail stores in Bourke that the people who are likely street there are on sale goods which to protect consumers' interests are have been manufactured for retailing consumers who do not have any other exclusively within those establish interests. It is interesting to see the ments. approach of the Government to this matter. The first thought the Govern Mr. JoNA.-Would you suggest ment has in regard to representation that representation be restricted to is revealed in paragraph (a) of sub consumers? clause (1) of clause 3. It indicates Mr. HOLDING.-! shall indicate to that the first appointee to the council the honorable member what we sug shall be a person who represents gest. There is considerable power in the interests of manufacturers. Para the large retail interests in this city, graph (b) provides that the second and some of the small retailers appointee shall be a person repre mentioned by the honorable member senting the interests of retail traders. for Scoresby, many of whom are in Many honorable members consider my electorate, need the protection of that those interests are two of the the Government from the rapacious three groups against which Parlia attitude of the large retail stores in ment is intending to protect con Bourke-street. There is within my sumers. Is it not absurd that on electorate a retailer who is quite a body called the Consumers Protec openly operating a cash discount tion Council two groups which are house under the name of Encel Elec to-day grossly exploiting the consu tronics. He does not advertise widely, mers are the first to be represented but anybody can buy from him elec on the council and that it is proposed trical commodities at a discount for that those groups shall have equal cash. Because he is selling at prices representation with the consumers? slightly lower than the prices at which Mr. LoxToN.-That is a very broad some of the goods can be obtained by statement. Are they all rogues? large retail stores in Bourke-street, pressure is continually being placed Mr. HOLDING.-! did not say that. upon manufacturers by these large Once one starts talking about large establishments to stop supplies to retail and manufacturing interests, this trader. The large retail interests it is interesting to see the reaction pretty effectively control the Retail from the Government side of the Traders Association. Just as the con House. sumer has to be protected from large manufacturing organizations, so does Mr. LOXTON .-Are there not some the small retailer need to be protected small retail and manufacturing in from the large retailing interests. terests, too? But the honorable member for Mr. HOLDING. - Government Hawthorn has said that there is no members do not get excited when need to worry because the Minister, one speaks about consumers. who has shown his competence by 1186 Consumers Protection [ASSEMBLY.] Bill. the way in which this Bill has been who should be told that their duty on introduced into the House, will select this council is to represent the somebody who is highly respectable interests of consumers. and who will act as an individual. The honorable member for Haw Mr. JoNA.-That is the important thorn asked whether the Opposition part. would exclude from the council Mr. HOLDING.-But that is not representatives of the manufacturers what the Bill provides. If provision and the retail traders. The answer were made for a person with experi to this question was supplied by the ence in retail trading or in manu Leader of the Opposition. The effect facturing to be appointed to represent of the amendment foreshadowed by consumer interests on the council, my Leader would be to enlarge the there would be a case for the proposi scope of the council rather than to tion put forward by the honorable exclude the manufacturing and retail member for Hawthorn. However, I interests. There may be a limited invite him and other Government case for having on the council repre members to read what the Bill sentatives of that type who have had actually provides-one person re some experience, provided that presenting the interests of retail the numbers-Government members traders in consumer goods-- know what I mean when I speak of numbers-lie with the consumers. Mr. JoNA.-Not organizations. That is the basis of the proposition. Mr. HOLDING.-Does it matter? If the Government wishes to have on the council representatives of the Mr. JoNA.-Yes, very much. manufacturing and retail interests, Mr. HOLDING.-Under this Bill, they should not be given equal vot that person is to be appointed to the ing rights with consumers because, to council, not for the purpose of repre do so, would make a joke of the legis senting consumers but to represent lation. It would be like having a the interests of retail traders. The council to protect the interests of the representative of the manufacturers Liberal Party and having the majority is in exactly the same position. of representatives on that council Under this measure, he is to be from the Labour Party. appointed to represent the interests The Opposition proposes that the of manufacturers. That will be his size of the council should be in brief-the reason why he is to be creased, and it has endeavoured to appointed. select representatives who have no Mr. TURNBULL-He could be an interests other than consumer inter old politician. ests. Consequently, the Country Women's Association, the House Mr. HOLDING.-Yes, and there wives' Association and the Trades may be a few of them around after Hall Council have been chosen as the next election if one can go on being competent to represent the in what happened in the South-Eastern terests of consumers. If the Govern Province by-election. Even some of ment considers that the Opposition, the younger politicians on the in its desire to increase the size of Government side of the House would the council, is not going far enough, be better representatives on this it should say so. council than two persons appointed to represent manufacturers or retail In the community, there are vari traders. We join issue with the ous organizations which, within the Government on this point of repre framework of their membership, em sentation. We say that, if a Con body consumer interests exclusively. sumers Protection Council is to be At some stage, a limit must be im established, the persons best qualified posed on the size of the council. If to protect consumers are consumers the Government is saying, " Let us Consumers Protection [4 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Bill. 1187 have everybody represented on the committee. The council must be council; let us increase the size of the authorized under the Evidence Act council to twenty, and have repre to call witnesses before it. That is sentatives of the Labour Party, the fhe basis of the Opposition's attitude Country Party and the Liberal Party to this measure. · on it," that is all right so far as the Opposition is concerned, but at least The Opposition will vote for the the controlling numbers on the coun Bill as it stands because it is a step cil should be representative of the forward, but if the Government is consumers. It is absurd to introduce sincere, and if it intends to appoint into Parliament a measure which is a Consumers Protection Council, designed to provide protection for which is to protect consumers, it consumers, but which grants to the will accept the Opposition's amend groups against which consumers are ments. The measure as it now being protected equal representation stands, however, could become a with the consumers on the council. weapon against the consumers. If the council is to protect consumers in If the council is to work effec fact and not in word, and if Govern tively, it must be given not authori ment members are sincere in their tarian power, but the simple power of desires to protect the consumers, the being authorized to compel witnesses Government will adopt the recom to appear before it to give evidence. mendations submitted by the Oppo If the Consumers Protection Council sition and stop quibbling about considered that some of the activities certain small or large organizations of the retail or manufacturing inter that may want to be represented on ests were not in the interests of con the council. If the Government sumers, it should have power to say wishes to enlarge the council even to them, " You must appear before further, the Opposition will not the council so that it can examine oppose such a move. your books and see what you are doing." Does any honorable member Mr. TURNBULL.-So long as the be1ieve, after the recent scandals consumer representation is enlarged. which have taken place within the Mr. HOLDING.-That is so. The framework of large companies, Leader of the Opposition has en where directors have misused deavoured to test the sincerity of the hundreds of thousands of pounds of Government by saying that a Con the public's money, that if Mr. Kor sumers Protection Council should man-who was very prominent in have some teeth and be so consti connexion with a certain group of tuted that the representatives of the companies, and who was a director consumers on the council are given of a large retail organization which more rights and more say than the was involved in false advertising manufacturing and retail sections. was asked to appear before the coun Those are the issues involved, and cil, he would do so? He would say, they have been clearly explained by "No, thank you very much; I have the Leader of the Opposition and to visit another country to look at other Opposition speakers. We hope some of my other interests. I will the Government will adopt the not be coming along to-day, next Opposition's amendments in order month, or next year." that worth-while legislation may be Any council that is appointed to enacted. investigate these matters properly Mr. DIXON (St. Kilda).-1 have and effectively and is required to listened with interest to honorable make recommendations to Parlia members debating the proposed Con ment and to the Minister-effective sumers Protection Council. I was recommendations to protect the buy particularly interested in the re ing public-must be given the normal marks of the honorable member for powers which are attached to any Richmond. I consider that there was 1188 Consumers Protection [ASSEMBLY.] Bill.

merit in some of his comments. concerned with the interests of con Perhaps, however, the honorable sumers, otherwise they would not be member would be better seated in successful manufacturers or retailers. the Commonwealth Parliament dis cussing restrictive trade practices, I should also like to pose another because the type of practices to question. How much notice will !he which he referred affects the goods Minister take of a recommenda tlon before they reach the consumers. made by a council which represents In view of the examples given by interests that do not take into account the honorable member, his remarks the views of manufacturers and re should be communicated to the tailers? I wish to commend this Bill Federal Minister handling the re and suggest that, perhaps, it will strictive trade practices legislation. make a positive contribution to the welfare of consumers, rather than I should like to examine the just to criticize, what has been done remarks of the honorable member in the advertising, packaging and concerning one member of the labelling of goods, and so on. proposed council to represent the interests of manufacturers and also Before I examine the positive con one person to represent the tribution which I believe this Bill interests of retail traders. I pose makes, I should like to ask honor this question: Will it be possible able members why it is that con for one person unequivocally to repre sumer protection is needed. I sug sent the whole interests of all manu gest that it is needed largely because facturers on the one hand, and of · the tremendous increase in the another those of the retail traders, production of consumer goods. Why on the other hand? I suggest that has this increase occurred? I no matter who is selected to repre believe one of the answers to this sent the interests of these groups, question is that there has been a within which there are diverse in mass of advertising which has created a demand for these goods. In terests, and even if some of the re some cases, the advertising has pre marks of the honorable member for cipitated the increase in production of Richmond hold true, that particular these consumer goods. Then I ask representative, because of his vested why this is so. In my opinion, the interests, will be only too ready to answer is that full employment has realize that he himself is a consumer been made the fundamental goal in and will look at all the other sections our society, and I completely com of manufacturing and retailing in the mend this goal. light of his being a consumer. That, To attain this goal, however, it has of course, cannot be denied. So, to been necessary to couple full employ say that there are to be five me~bers ment with production. In order to of the council but that they will not attain full employment there must be truly represent consumer interests is a tremendous increase in production, really ridiculous. and we must be prepared to increase Mr. HoLDING.-The honorable production at any price. We must member for St. Kilda should read the be prepared, also, to encourage ad vertisers to create demand for these Bill. consumer goods so that full employ Mr. DIXON.-1 have read it. I ment will be provided. Now we have realize that all members of the coun reached the stage where we should cil will be consumers. Whether or take a good look at what goods are not they are directed to represent being produced. particular interests, those interests We should say to ourselves, " We are also the interests of consumers. have achieved full employment, and It should not be forgotten that manu the time has come when we must facturers and retailers are very much consider drastically what types of Consumers Protection [4 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Bill. 1189

goods we are producing." When we make the choice which later on he examine the type of goods we are will have to make because of his producing, we find that there is a ten family. Therefore, I suggest that dency, on the one hand, towards an consumer protection could take the abundance of private goods, and, on form of advertising being included as the other hand, insufficient expendi a subject in the schools, with a view ture on some of the goods within the to informing people how to dis public sector, such as education, criminate between different sorts of health and roads, all of which are advertising. peculiarly State matters, and defence which is a Commonwealth matter. Mr. SuTTON.-The honorable mem ber does not mean advertising; he I pose the thesis that this is means the merits of advertising. partially the result of advertising solely on behalf of private goods, Mr. DIXON.-Yes, the merits of with no corresponding advertising advertising; how to discriminate be on the behalf of public goods. tween different sorts of advertising. I Therefore, I recommend that this believe people should be made aware proposed council should make a posi of the subtle means of advertising tive contribution, bearing in mind which are manifested in books such that it is in the consumers' interest, as The Hidden Persuaders and which not just in saying what goods are bad take place on television and through but also in saying that some com other media. I buy goods which I modities are good and should be possibly would not buy if I was advertised more than they are at aware that this subtle persuasive present. For example expenditure on influence was entering my mind. education, roads and health. If these things were taught in school, I think it would help people Paragraph (b) of sub-clause (1) in making a discriminatory choice be of clause 4 states that the function of tween the goods they want and those the council shall be to make recom they do not want. mendations with respect to any matter calculated to protect the I also point out that £250,000,000 interest of consumers, and I suggest is spent on all advertising, and I just that, first, the proposed council leave this figure to speak for itself. should examine the aspect of the Mr. LOVEGROVE.-ls that Austra education of consumers. This has lian currency? already been suggested by the honor able member for Albert Park, who Mr. DIXON .-Yes. The second said that an intelligent public should point I should like the council to look not be prepared to accept the sort at is the matter of education in the of advertising which is foisted upon schools concerning the wideness of it. Yet it is a fact that advertising, choice of consumers, a choice which together with its bias towards private includes things other than consumer consumer goods and other defects is goods. The council could also not explained in schools. help in advertising the needs of the community in the fields of education, To my mind, this is detrimental health, roads, and so on, and thus to the young man who, after make a really positive contribution leaving school, goes to work and to the welfare of consumers. earns £15 to £20 a week. He then Finally, the honorable member for has to make a choice of what he Albert Park mentioned a certain will spend this money on. He is con paradox that he could not under fronted with this whole range of ad stand. He asked how the Liberal vertising relating to the advantage of Party, a free enterprise party, could buying these goods in the private possibly introduce a Bill providing domain, as against the non-advertised for the establishment of a Consumers advantages of saving, and he does not Protection Council. I point out to 1190 Consumers Protection [ASSEMBLY.] Bill. the honorable member that his think of retail traders and one representa ing on this matter is probably 40 or tive of the interests of manufacturers 50 years out of date, that we are would be able to do their duty ade operating within a mixed-framework quately. Opposition members are economy in which at least one-third just as surprised that it is considered of expenditure is controlled by the two representatives of consumer Government, that this maligned groups could represent that aspect. Liberal Party believes in the freedom We believe there should be wider and importance of individuals, sub representation. The honorable mem ject to the rights of others, and that ber made the point that retail traders one of the reasons why the Govern and manufacturers are also con ment has introduced this Bill is that sumers. Later, he started to discuss our party is concerned with the rights the mammoth of advertising that has of others. grown up. Almost subliminal adver tising is put over television and radio The sitting was suspended at 6.32 stations all day every day. It is in p.m. until 7.52 p.m. jected into the minds of the con Dr. JENKINS (Reservoir).-! have sumers, many of them teenagers. listened with some interest to the de Emphasis is placed on transistorized bate, and it has struck me that there goods and all the rest. is a great deal of unanimity between I point out that the retail traders the parties in the House concerning and the manufacturers are respon the principle of the Bill. We are all sible for this type of advertising, and agreed that over the years it has be it is hard to accept that they can come obvious that there is need for represent the consumers when they consumer protection. The reason for have these loads on their shoulders. the growth of this need has been We have not objected to their in stated by other speakers-the in clusion in the council, but we have creased production of consumer suggested that wider representation goods, the increased media for ad would lead to more effective funtion vertising, the type of advertising that ing, and surely we are interested in has been used, and so on; all these that. What is the magic in the num factors have been mentioned. ber five? It is not necessarily an easy My colleague, the honorable mem number to handle. I appreciate that ber for Richmond, referred to restric the honorable member for Mulgrave tive trade practices, and I believe he is able to count to five because of the did so rightly. While the honorable five digits on his left hand, but I re member for St. Kilda offered a soft mind him that he has another hand rebuke to the honorable member for and could just as easily count to1 ten. Richmond for mentioning this on the There are all sorts of reasons why, grounds that it was a matter more if there is to be created an effective suitable for the Federal sphere, I am Consumers Protection Council, we sure he is aware that it is necessary should try to increase the representa for supporting State action to be tion. The Opposition has made an taken if such Federal legislation is to appeal for widening it. Our other be effective. We are all concerned appeal has been to give some teeth about restrictive trade practices, and to the council so that it can be effec one would expert the proposed Con tive. Probably some honorable mem sumers Protection Council to be con bers think I am suggesting that a scious of this factor, consider it, and member of the qental profession should be appointed to the council. in all probability make recommenda Not at all. It is not a health matter tions to the Minister in regard to it. it is a matter of making the council The honorable member for St. function effectively. The Bill pro Kilda expressed some surprise that vides that the council shall consult one person representing the interests with manufacturers, retail traders, Consumers Protection [ 4 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Bill. 1191 and so on. The honorable member Mr. HOLDEN.-That is pretty wide. for Hawthorn admitted he had some sympathy with the viewpoint of the Dr. JENKINS.-The honorable Opposition on this matter and agreed member for Moonee Ponds will have that the council would not have an opportunity to make his contri power to call people before it to give bution later. A further provision in evidence. the Bill defines the expression " mat ter affecting the interest of consu It will be necessary to have the mers" more narrowly. It is defined views of expert witnesses in other as- spheres. I am particularly concerned . . . a reference to any practices used about the matter of consumer pro in connexion with the advertising market tection as far as patent medicines are ing packaging or labelling of goods or any concerned. One example, widespread matter relating to their fitness for the pur in the community, is the use of pose for which they are offered for sale. Relaxa-Tabs. In other States these Mr. DIXON .-Read the preceding tablets are available only on pres line. cription, but in Victoria extensive advertising of this kind of patent Dr. JENKINS.-The words preced medicine is permitted. There was ing the portion I have just read are, even a radio advertisement stating " without affecting the generality of that the Minister of Health had said the expression ", but the definition is that Relaxa-Tabs were safe. They narrowed down. What I am concern are safe, if taken in the correct ed about is that servicing of many dosage and at the correct times, but consumer goods is required. The the chemical in them may produce honorable member for Moorabbin dermatitis. They should not be taken started to raise this issue. Servicing except under supervision, and there is required of household goods such is a marked chance of habituation to as furniture, floor coverings, window this drug. This is one of the things coverings, motor-mowers, and par about which I am worried, and it is ticularly electrical appliances which a matter in which the Consumers are used so much these days. Stan Protection Council could well be dards are laid down for the electrical interested. wiring of houses, but no standards are specified for the repairing or ser The council will need to be able to vicing of electrical appliances. This call expert witnesses. I am sure most is a real consumer problem. experts will agree to co-operate, but it is not good enough for us to feel Many suburban newspapers carry sure that they will do so. We want advertisements which are inserted by to be certain that they will appear if servicemen of electrical goods. These required. We want to be certain also advertisements mention only 'phone that the manufacturers of the drug numbers, and on investigation one to which I have referred, experts in finds that the person who answers pharmacology, and others· will give the 'phone merely takes a message to the Consumers Protection Council be passed on to somebody else. No the benefit of their advice. I have details are given of where these ser mentioned only one example. I appeal to the Government to take some vicemen come from, where they can notice of the suggestion that the be reached in case of complaint, or council could be made more effective where their effectiveness and ability by being given some of these powers can be checked. Their advertisements -not authoritarian powers, but make false statements with regard to powers sufficient to make it effective. fees charged. They state that house I am also concerned with omissions calls are only 1Os. 6d., but one finds from the Bill. I find that the council that that is the charge to knock at will investigate any matter aff~cting the door. The fairness of charges to the interest of consumers. the consumer must be considered. 1192 Consumers Protection [ASSEMBLY.] Bill.

Mr. BORTHWICK.-What about These matters will be of concern to doctors' charges? the Consumers Protection Council be cause the type of electrical appliance Dr. JENKINS.-Whilst my col which is used in the home, unless leagues on the Government side of the properly serviced, can be highly House might, with some humour, re dangerous. The chances of electro fer to the charges that are made by cution, the provision of proper earth doctors-- ing, and so on, must be considered. Mr. BORTHWICK.-And with justi Mr. B. J. EVANS.-What about the fication! painting of houses? Dr. JENKINS.-lf a doctor calls Dr. JENKINS.-As I said pre and sees a patient in the family, he viously, a number of services in the makes a fixed charge-which he may home affect the consumer, and I have or may not be paid in the future. An listed some of these. I am merely electrical serviceman advertises that using the servicing of electrical goods he charges only so much per call, but as an example, because I believe con one finds that that is the price to sumer protection in this field is knock on the door. Once he gets his necessary. Such goods are generally foot in, "the sky's the limit." held in the household, and I do not In the advertisements to which I believe the Bill clearly defines that refer no indication is given of the this is a matter which the Consumers servicemen's ability; there is no need Protection Council can deal with. for them to define the type of training I have been informed of one case they have had. No qualifications are in which a mechanic was called in to necessary, as in the case of a doctor. repair a fold-over fault in a television Mr. BORTHWICK.-Don't they have set. He charged £3 for labour, and to be licensed electricians? the fault was not corrected. He was called next day; he charged £7 for Dr. JENKINS.-No. This is what labour, but the set was still not satis I have been telling honorable mem factory. The set was taken away to bers for the last couple of years. The the workshop and a further charge of Government is failing the consumer £10 !Os. was made for workshop by not affording him protection in the labour. Charges were made for servicing of electrical appliances. In various faults; condensers worth ls. fact, several cases which I have men 1 ld. were charged at 8s. 6d., and tioned in this House eventually led some worth 3s. 6d. were charged at to prosecutions, because I stimulated 12s. 6d., the total repair bill being the discussion and showed these disa £32 8s. 6d. In order to get delivery bilities in the type of servicing being of his set, the person concerned paid by cheque and, when the set was not undertaken on household electrical in working order, he wisely stopped appliances. payment. Subsequently, the set was Mr. BORTHWICK.-How can there repaired by a reputable person for be prosecutions if there is no law £10. covering this aspect? The Gove.rnment must ensure Dr. JENKINS.-The point is that adequate protection for the con people have to take these servicemen sumers in the servicing of common on trust without regard for licences electrical appliances. The Electrical or qualifications, and in fact prosecu Trades Union, the Royal Melbourne tions against them have been taken Institute of Technology and Retra for straight-out fraudulent and crimi have pleaded for this type of protec nal practices, such as cutting the wire tion. They believe servicemen should behind a television set so that it must be licensed so that householders may be taken away for repair. be given some protection. Consumers Protection [4 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Bill. 1193

I do not wish to carry this aspect of certain trade unions that were the any further because a Parliamentary first to ensure that no protection at committee of which I am a member all was given to the consumer. It has is examining this matter, and these been suggested that there should be things are outside factors that mem representation from the Trades Hall bers of the committee have heard. In Council on the proposed Consumers many other fields of service the con Protection Council. The actions of sumer needs the protection of stan the Trades Hall Council in the past dards of service, standards of ability few weeks made sure the consumers for persons carrying out that service, did not get their goods. and standards of advertising, so that inaccurate and misleading advertise Mr. RING.-lt is all very well to ments, and so on, may not be pub make that statement, but tell us why. lished. The reference to " any mat The ACTING SPEAKER (Mr. ter affecting tbe interest of con Wheeler).-Order! Honorable mem sumers " should include this service bers should cease interjecting. I call aspect, so I believe the consumer rep on the honorable member for Moonee resentation on the council should be Ponds to speak on the Bill. widened. The Consumers Protection Council should be given some teeth Mr. HOLDEN.-lf the Melbourne to enable it to function, and the Trades Hall Council had its own way, aspects I have discussed should be the trams would not be running. included within the sphere of this Therefore, I can dismiss the sugges particular council. tion that the Trades Hall Council should be represented on the Con Mr. HOLDEN (Moonee Ponds). sumers Protection Council. I under A number of bald statements have stand a suggestion has been made that been made by members of the Op a doctor be appointed to the council position. This Bill deals with the to watch consumers' interests in the setting up of a Consumers Protection use of patent medicines. I shall take Council under the control of the Minister. If the Government heeded part in the debate next week on the the suggestions made by members of subject of pesticides. Country people the Opposition, the council would are dealing with substances that are finish up with as many members as lethal, and in many cases not under the Legislative Assembly. stood, not only by the Department of Agriculture but also by the people Mr. W1Lcox.-Or at least as many as the Legislative Council. who use pesticides. If it is sugges ted that a doctor be appointed to the Mr. HOLDEN.-That is so. It is Consumers Protection Council, surely well known that the best means of for the protection of users of pesti ensuring that a body will not achieve cides, there should also be appointed results is to appoint a lot of members to it. That is what the Opposition a representative of the Department wants the Government to do in rela of Agriculture. tion to the Consumers Protection The honorable member for Reser Council. Members of the Opposition voir suggested that housewives have have mentioned certain community been fleeced, that they have been services that are not functioning properly. However, they do not charged exorbitant rates by electri understand their Bible, in which there cians, and that nothing has been done. is the well known passage which He suggested that because he brought states- certain facts to the notice of the He that is without sin . . . let him Government, a person was prosecu first cast a stone . . . ted. Surely, if a prosecution was insti Members of the Opposition who have tuted, there must have been some complained about other people in the protecting legislation for the con community, are no doubt members sumer. 1194 Consumers Protedion [ASSEMBLY.] Bill.

The Government has examined Mr. SCHINTLER.-Perhaps it is: this subject in a wise manner. It "To him that hath shall be given." is proposed to set up a small expert committee to get things done, and Mr. WILCOX.-I do not know not merely to sit around the table, whether in the days of Adam there talk, and do nothing. The composi was an apple or pear Board. Per tion of the council has been wisely haps that is what the Leader of the considered. The measure should Opposition was referring to. I am have the support of every member always willing to have my biblical of this House and of another place. knowledge improved by anything the Leader of the Opposition can add. He The motion was agreed to. also referred to the Australian Con sumers Association. I do not know The Bill was read a second time a great deal about that body, but I and committed. am prepared to accept the statement Clause I was agreed to. of the Leader of the Opposition that it it a useful and worth-while body. Clause 2 (Consumers Protection Whatever I know about it leads me Council). to that conclusion. The Government Mr. WILCOX (Minister of Immi will be happy to receive assistance gration) .-The debate on this Bill from any such body. The honorable has been excellent, and I was inter member also mentioned the Statute ested in the views expressed by Law Revision Committee, and the honorable members. It is appropriate Government would welcome the co that I should reply to the remarks operation of that committee, too. I of honorable members, and particu do not think this is a subject on larly to the amendments which have which the Bill should be exhaustive b.een foreshadowed by the Opposi and conclusive. Many avenues may t10n. The Leader of the Opposition exist on the statute-book for con went to some lengths to say that sumer protection, but for the first there was nothing pioneering about time a Government in Australia has this measure. I do not quite follow moved to set up a council with his remarks, because there is no specific functions and to try to co similar legislation in any other State ordinate a lot of the work that is of Australia. I agree that the idea being done for the benefit of of consumer protection is not alto consumers. gether new, and that there are many Mr. ScHINTLER.-They are ad examples of this type of legislation. visory functions. However, if he is attacking the Bill because there is no element of new Mr. WILCOX.-They are a lot ness about it, he is a little astray, more than that. I regret that the because no Government in Australia Leader of the Country Party is not in has set up a Consumers Protection the Chamber at present, because I Council, and for that matter very few believe he had a sensible approach to countries in the world have done so. this Bill. I welcome the honorable The United Kingdom, from which we member's suggestions concerning the do not always take a lead, but fre appointment of members to this quently do so, set up a similar council. The Leader of the Country council in 1962. Party stated that he would like the The Leader of the Opposition made membership of the council to include reference to a biblical quotation some country representation. I do which he was going to use as evi not see any great difficulty in that, if dence that consumer protection had there are appropriately qualified been thought of in ages past. I do people with a country background not know what was that quotation; available. They are just as eligible someone said that it was from the for membership of the council as any Book of Genesis. one else. Consumers Protection [4 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Bill. 1195

Mr. SCHINTLER.-Why not report These people will be selected for progress and confer with them, and their individual merit, coupled with see how far you can go? the requirement that they shall have Mr. WILCOX.-! am confident that the experience which I mentioned. this is a sensible Bill, which will Already, I have received repre appeal to the majority of members in sentations from many bodies stating this Chamber; therefore I think we that they would like to have a direct should most certainly proceed with representative on the consumers it. Some discussion took place on council. Therefore, the proposal of the functions of the council. I shall the Leader of the Opposition that deal with that matter first, and then these specific people should be with the question of membership. It appointed to membership does not is probably necessary to put some surprise me. If the council were to brake on too much enthusiasm on the consist of everybody who wanted to part of the members of the council at be on it, there would be no end to the the outset. matter, as the honorable member for The ACTING CHAIRMAN (Mr. Moonee Ponds suggested. Already Wiltshire).-It would be more one group which wanted to have a appropriate for the Minister to dis representative on the council has cuss the functions of the council on been informed that we were not clause 4. interested in its representative, but that if it could provide the name of Mr. WILCOX.-! thought it was a person who had a background customary in this House-if I am which would be of use to the council wrong I shall be happy to be guided we would be delighted to receive the by you, Mr. Acting Chairman-for name. I am glad to say that one the Minister in charge of a Bill to of these bodies has already come up have some general freedom in reply with a sensible name-someone quite ing to matters raised during the unconnected with the group which second-reading debate. submitted his name. I think that is The ACTING CHAIRMAN.-That a good thing. is so, but the more detailed discussion On that score, even if someone should take place under the relevant in the trade union movement clause. submitted a name which would Mr. WILCOX.-! am glad to have not be unacceptable just for that the wisdom of the Chair to assist me. reason, if the person had other The membership of the council was qualifications, I should be glad dealt with at some length by several to receive it. But when the honor speakers. The honorable member for able member for Richmond speaks Richmond was most anxious to pro in terms of the manufacturers and claim against the people who would the retailers being the very groups be nominated. The Bill provides for which are grossly exploiting the con appointment of a person representing sumers, and lumps them all together, the interests of manufacturers I say that is typical of the socialist selected after consultation, a person nonsense that he gives out from time representing the interests of retail to time. If he is saying, as he is by traders, and-I direct the attention of lumping them all together, that all all honorable members to this-two retailers and all manufacturers-- persons representing the interests of consumers. I point out that the same Mr. HOLDING.-! did not say that. phrase " representing the interests " is used in respect of each member. I Mr. WILCOX.-That is the clear would also like to refer honorable inference to be drawn from his re members to what I said earlier when marks. The honorable member delivering my second-reading ex stated that all these people are not planatory speech on the measure. interested in the consumer, but I 1196 Consumers Protection [ASSEMBLY.] Bill. think he has a lot to learn because relation to any matter affecting the those of us who have had the for interests of consumers will not be tunate experience of having interests limited by reference of the Minister. in quite a few walks of life know that reputable manufacturers and retailers Mr. B. J. EVANS.-That will be -and there are many of them-are limited only by the manufacturer's vitally interested in the products willingness to be consulted. that they deliver and sell to con Mr. WILCOX.-! shall deal with sumers. that point later. Read together, the Mr. TURNBULL.-Should they not functions of the council will result be protected from the unethical, too? in its having very wide powers, but I think the Minister should have some Mr. WILCOX.-Yes, and that is " finger in the pie " concerning mat exactly what the Government is in ters directly referred to the council terested in doing. How better can for investigation. The fourth function protection be provided against the of the council, as set out in sub people who are unethical in the fields clause (1) of clause 4, is that it that have been mentioned if there shall at any time but at least once are on the council people who are in every year furnish to the Minister interested and experienced in that for submission to Parliament a report field and also ethical? on its activities. I am sure that all honorable members will, upon reflec The functions of the council were tion, appreciate the way in which also discussed at length during the these functions have been set out. second-reading debate. The Govern ment has several things in mind in Mr. WILKEs.-The Government defining the functions as they appear already has a committee reporting to in the Bill. One of them is that in at it, but it is ignoring its reports. least the initial stages of the council's activities, it would be wise to place Mr. WILCOX.-! do not think that some brake on the investigations is the case. As I have stated, the which it may undertake. I can see council is being given very wide enthusiastic people running wild with functions and in the initial investiga ideas. A brake is needed for reasons tion there should be some brake on which were pointed out by, I think, its activities. In the first case, the the honorable member for Moorabbin, brake is exercised through the that the four functions listed in the Minister, and in the second, directly Bill give a very wide cover. through Parliament. I should have thought it would be considered to be Mr. WILKEs.-Will the council be an advantage to make a council able to investigate only matters re directly responsible to Parliament. I ferred to it by the Minister? become a little tired of the claim that boards, commissions, councils and Mr. WILCOX.-That will be one other statutory bodies should be set function, but it will also be able to up free from political interference. make recommendations with respect That catch-cry sounds very good at to any matters calculated to protect the time of the establishment of a the interests of consumers. particular authority, but all honorable Mr. WILKES.-But that could be members are aware that it results done without an investigation. in the organization being set up sub Mr. WILCOX.-One investigation ject to control by nobody. I do not might reveal all sorts of other matters believe any honorable member thinks which would require attention and that is a good idea. This council will in regard to which the council could be accessible to Parliament, either make recommendations. The coun directly or through the Minister. I cil's ability to consult with manufac think this answers the criticism of turers, retailers and advertisers in the honorable member for Footscray Consumers Protect,ion [4 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Bill. 1197 who said that the Bill had no teeth. the Minister for submission to the If that is the case, then this Parlia Parliament a report on its activities ment has no teeth. is virtually the same as reporting to Parliament. If Parliament cannot get I agree with what was said by the Minister to submit the council's the Leader of the Opposition, in fore reports to Parliament, it will be sadly shadowing an amendment, that the lacking in ability. council needs power to summon wit nesses and to require them to pro I shall be happy to discuss the pro duce any relevant books or docu posed amendment relating to repre ments in their custody or control. sentation on the council when the Such a provision would give the relevant clause is under consideration. council some teeth, and I accept the However, I think I have already clear proposal as a sensible one. ly indicated that the Government desires to obtain the services of The suggestion that the Minister people with individual merit, and not should have a "finger in the pie" those of persons who are actively in regard to the council's functioning within the retail or manufacturing is a good one, because, as has already field. No reference has been made been stated, there is already some to the appointment of the chairman. form of consumer protection in other He could come from any field. All legislation. The Chief Secretary's that I can say in relation to that ap Department controls weights and pointment is that the Government measures legislation, activities of will be graceful to receive sensible door-to-door salesmen, hire-purchase, suggestions of qualified people who and trading stamps. The Department may be prepared to serve on this of Health has power over the sale council. They may be of great help. of proprietary medicines, and a special advisory committee for that The Leader of the Opposition .stated purpose is set up under the He(llth that the Government lacked sincerity Act. The Department of Agriculture in bringing forward this measure. I has some control over the sales of am surprised at the honorable mem stock food, fertilizers and pesticides. ber making such a statement, because The labelling of textiles and leather the proposal to introduce legislation goods is controlled by the Depart to establish a Consumers Protection ment of Labour and Industry. One Council was contained in the Pre reason why ~he Minister ~hould keep an eye on the functioning of the coun mier's policy speech. cil and why it shol.,lld have power Mr. STONEHAM.-The Government only to make recommendations is that became interested in this only after if as a result of its investigations the the Labour Party had announced in council recommends that certain its election policy that, if returned to action should be taken, it may well office, it would take action on behalf be that the proposal is already cover ed by one of the Departments to of the consumers. which I have referred. All that may Mr. WILCOX.-Legislation of this be needed is better policing of exist type has been part of the policy of ing provisions. It is for reasons of the Liberal Party for a much longer that nature that the functioning of time than it has been contemplated the council has had to be carefully by the Labour Party, and this meas drawn. ure has been brought forward with I cannot see a great deal of merit in genuine intentions. There has not the amendment foreshadowed by the been a great song and dance about Leader of the Opposition that the it because there is no need for such council shall submit a report to Parlia publicity. It will be interesting to ment. It seems to me that a require see how the provisions work out in ment that the council shall furnish to practice. I believe the measure will Session 1964.-50 1198 Oonsi:mers Protection [ASSE~LY.] Bill.

prove successful. I thank honorable Mr. WILKES.-Because of their members for the interest they have experience, many members of shown in th~~ debate. the Trades Hall Council would prove invaluable to the Consumers Protec Mr. WILKES (Northcote).-The tion Council. Does the honorable Minister referred to the fact that he member for Moonee Ponds suggest was not concerned because the Stat that Mr. Monk has not had sufficient ute Law Revision Committee was in experience to assist the Consumers vestigating this problem. The honor able gentleman said that the investi Protection Council? gation undertaken by that committee Mr. HOLDEN .-Is he the only one would tie in conveniently with the you can name? establishment of the proposed Con sumers Protection Council. There is Mr. WILKES.-Many other mem no doubt that a prima facie case has bers of the Trades Hall Council been established for the need to pro would be eminently suitable for ap tect consumers in some way and, pointment to the new council and, when deciding to appoint a council when honorable members are con for this purpose, one would have ex sidering clause 3, the Opposition will pected the Government to take suggest the names of those persons cognizance of Mr. Cuthill's findings. who, it believes, would be suitable to The Statute Law Revision Committee serve on the council. Why has the has listened to numerous people in Government introduced this measure regard to this problem. It has made before receiving a report from the many inspections in New South Statute Law Revision Committee? At Wales and Victoria, and it has least the Government should be in reached certain conclusions. It formed as to the type of consumer would have been wiser for the Gov protection that is needed in Victoria, ernment to wait until the committee and there is no doubt that protection had brought down its report before is now urgently needed. acting in this manner. However, it Mr. SCANLAN .-It is urgen~ this appears that the Consumers Protec very day. tion Council will be set up before the report is furnished. Mr. WILKES.-Of course it is, but the Bill will not make a scrap of The new council will consist of a difference to the existing position representative of the manufacturing because there is nothing positive interests. I do not know from which about it. The Government set up a se~tion of the m.anufa.cturing industry committee which could supply posi this representative will be appointed. tive information about this problem, Obviously, differing viewpoints but the Bill will achieve nothing. would be expressed by the various sections of the manufacturing indus The measure provides that the tries, and I do not know how the Consumers Protection Council shall Government can select one person to consist of representatives of the represent all industries. manufacturing industries, the re tailers and the consumers. It makes Mr. WHEELER.-What about a no provision for the number of meet representative from the Chamber of ings which shall be held by the Manufactures? council. I know by the work that Mr. WILKES.-It will be difficult has been applied to the problem by to select one representative of the the Statute Law Revision Committee whole of the manufacturing industry that, if the new council is to achieve and for that person to act as a pro results, it will need to meet eight tector of the consumers. hours a day, five days a week, and Mr. HOLDEN.-Could you find a then it will not solve all of the exist suitable representative on the Trades ing problems. 1 consider that the Hall Council? Government erred in introducing this Consumers Protection [4 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Bill. 1199

Bill. The Opposition does not sug Australian Consumers Association. It gest that there is no necessity to was obvious from his second-reading establish the Consumers Protection speech that the Minister, who was Council, but it contends that the selected by the Government to pilot Government should at least have through this Chamber this legislation awaited advice from the Statute Law for the protection of consumers, Revision Committee, which body was knew nothing about the association asked to inquire into the matter. which is operating on behalf of The clause was agreed to. consumers. Clause 3, providing, inter aZia Under paragraph (a) of sub-clause (1) of this clause, the Government (1) The Council shall be appointed by the Minister and shall consist of- will be charged with the responsi ...... bility of appointing to the new (c) two persons representing the in council, after consultation with such terests of the consumers of whom at least one shall be a body or bodies as the Minister thinks woman; represent such interests, a person ...... representing the interests of manu and the Minister may at any time remove any person so appointed and may subject facturers. Obviously, the first organi to this Act appoint another person in his zation to come to mind would be the stead. Chamber of Manufactures, and prob Mr. STONEHAM (Leader of the ably the Minister would not look Opposition) .-I move-- beyond it. Furthermore, under para graph (b), it is proposed that there That paragraph ( c) be omitted with the view of inserting the following paragraph:- shall be elected to the council a " ( ) Four persons representing the person representing the interests of interests of the consumers of whom one retailers, selected after consultation shall be selected after consultation with with such a body-or bodies-as the the Australian Consumers Association Minis'ter thinks represents such one shall be selected after consultation with such body or bodies as the Minister interests. When considering the considers represent housewives one shall selection of the representative of be selected after consultation with the retail traders, it is unlikely that the Country Women's Association of Vic Minister would look beyond the toria and one shall be selected after con sultation with the body known as the Chamber of Commerce. Melbourne Trades Hall Council. Although it has been claimed by During the second-reading debate, it the Government that this legislation was emphasized that every person in will assist consumers, it is obvim1s the community is a consumer. that consumers will have very little Obviously, if this Bill becomes law representation on the new council. a couple of hand-picked followers of The Government will nominate two the Liberal Party who could be persons who will be useful to the relied upon not to embarrass the Liberal Party, and that is the only Government in any way would very qualification they need have. The quickly be appointed to the council International Office of Consumer as representatives of the consumers. Unions, a world-wide organization In his second-reading speech, the which has been functioning since Minister of Immigration stated that, 1960, has some of the most eminent when the Attorney-General was in people in the world amongst its England a couple of years ago, the members. The world president at honorable gentleman took advantage the present time is Professor of inquiring into what was being Colston E. Warne. One has done outside Australia to protect only to read the speeches and consumers, and he heard of the addresses of members of this wonderful Molony report which, in organization to become aware of the its wide ramifications, deals exten fact that this problem of consumer sively with organizations like the protection is not to be tinkered with 1200 Consumers Protection [ASSEMBLY.] Bill. timidly as the Minister proposes be more than 25,000 members. The cause he fears what members of the Premier attends their annual con proposed council might do. The t erence and holds forth about this people of America have had wonderful organization protecting experience of this problem since consumers which has been operating 1929 in a most thorough going in America since 1929 and which is way. The Attorney-General went to an integral part of a great world-wide England at the public expense, and organization of country women. he was supposed to be right on the ball in regardto consumer protection What better organization than the and was gathering all the information Country Women's Association could that he could gain on the subject. the Minister consult? Could he get a Despite the fact that this organization better member for the council than has been in operation in America one nominated by that organization? since 1929 and in Great Britairn since A similar position would obtain in 1957, we have been presented with relation to any representative from this Bill. the Melbourne Trades Hall Council. These organizations are great focal Mr. WILCOX.-What has been points of consumer interest, and the operating in Great Britain since 1957? Minister would get good advice from them. Mr. STONEHAM.-The Consumers Association Limited. Surely, the main purpose of a Con sumers Protection Bill should be to Mr. W1Lcox.-The council was set ensure that the consumers are up in 1962. properly represented, and that is Mr. STONEHAM.-The work done what our amendment proposes. by these bodies is described in the Every similar authority throughout Molony report, on which the Attorney the world has followed the principle General is supposed to be a great we suggest. I referred to some of authority. He probably met Mr. those authorities in my second-read Molony in England. Yet, the Minister ing speech, and since then it has been of Immigration, who introduced this confirmed that President Johnson has, Bill, displays a complete lack of as I anticipated, been re-elected in knowledge on the subject. We pro the same landslide fashion as was our pose that there be appointed to the candidate in the recent South-Eastern council, instead of the two people Province by-election. who shall represent the Liberal Party, A recognized book on consumer one person chosen after consultation protection, The Consumer Society with the Australian Consumers Asso and the Law, by Barrie and Diamond, ciation and another who shall repre at page 30 states- sent the housewives. Consumers have always, almost inevit ably, been unorganized and relatively in In his second-reading speech the articulate. Manufacturers and suppliers Minister was most eloquent as to the entering into many similar transactions each expertise of the housewives. He said, -week, can afford to take expert advice, " They have the experience which I both technical and legal. Often they are themselves experts in their own province have mentioned." Yet, there is or business. Each deal by a consumer, on nothing in the Bill to say that house the other hand, is in the nature of an wives shall be represented except isolated transaction. that one member of the committee Yet, the Government proposes to shall be a woman. The Minister take the first two people who will should select the best woman avail suit the convenience of the Liberal able after consultation with the Party. The Opposition's amendment recognized housewives' associations. sets out how to get four experts, but The Country Women's Association is the Minister has decided that there an organization with over 700 shall be one law for the manufac branches throughout Vktoria and turers and retailers and a different Consumers Protection [4 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Bill. 1201 approach for consumers. There is no ability to take hold of these problems guarantee whatsoever concerning in an expert way. The Bill does not who shall be nominated for the provide any qualifications; it merely council to speak for the consumers. states that two persons representing The Minister has already indicated these interests shall be appointed. that he proposes to accept another Other members of the consumer amendment in relation to the power council in Great Britain are- of the council to summon witnesses Director- and to compel them to produce docu Miss Elizabeth Ackroyd-Seconded civil ments. The fact that such an amend servant. (Under-Secretary, Board of ment is necessary is proof of the care Trade). less manner in which this Bill was Members- drafted. Surely the honorable gentle Mrs. Cecil Calvert-Housewife (widow man must realize that the Bill in its of eminent surgeon in Belfast). present form concerning the member Downpatrick Hospital Management ship of the council is absolutely un Committee. acceptable and a complete washout Mr. Leonard Cohen-Joint Managing in that it does not comply with its Director of Henry's Stores Limited. Council of Retail Distributors' intended purpose. Association. Manchester Education I am sure that no one will cavil Committee. at the four organizations which I Mr. Aubrey L. Diamond-Chairman of have mentioned. The honorable National Federation of Consumer member for Moonee Ponds added a Groups. Lecturer in Law, London School of Economics, solicitor. Com ridiculous note to the debate, as he mittee of Advertising Inquiry Council often does, by saying-I forget his Limited. exact words-that the Opposition Mr. A. Frederick Earle-Managing wants a great big body formed. All Director of Hoover Limited. we ask is that membership of the Economist. council be increased to seven and Mrs. Winifred Jenkins-Chairman of that four of the members represent Women's Advisory Committee of British Standards Institution. British consumers. The honorable member Electrical Approvals Board. President for Moonee Ponds might just as well of East Barnet Valley Towns not have spoken, because he mis Women's Guild. represented the whole position. Mr. T. Cynog Jones, O.B.E.-Union of Shop Distributive ~nd Allied Wor~ers. Membership of the council in Great Council of Industrial Welfare Society. Britain consists of twelve persons; six of the members are women, and He is from the Trades Hall Council. in all there are nine real consumers. Mr. W. Grigor McClelland-Research The other three are top-line men rep fellow in management studies, Balliol resenting manufacturing and retail College, Oxford. Managing Director ing interests. So, nine of the twelve of Laws Stores Limited. Council of are expert consumers. Supermarket Association. Mrs. Felicia Palmer-Housewife. Free Mr. W1Lcox.-What is an expert lance journalist. consumer? Lord Peddie-Chairman of Co-operative Mr. STONEHAM.-! shall state the Party. Director of various co operative society companies. Vice personnel of the consumer coun Chairman of independent Commission cil in Great Britain. It is as follows: - on Advertising under Lord Reith. Chairman- Mrs. Phillipa Perks-Housewife. W.V.S. Baroness Elliot of Harwood, D.B.E. Centre Organizer. Member of Bristol Various Government committees. Y.W.C.A. Executive Committee. County councillor. Agricultural in terests. Of the twelve members of that I should say she is expert in protect council, nine represent consumers. ing the interest of the consumers. In this Bill, the Government provides She has a comprehensive understand for the appointment, on a council of ing of human problems and a proven five, of two persons without any 1202 Consumers Protection [ASSEMBLY.] Bill. particular qualifications to represent is more relevant to clause 4. The the consumers. The Opposition pro amendment before the Committee is poses that four expert consumers be to clause 3. appointed to a council of seven. Mr. B. J. EVANS.-Thank you for Mr. B. J. EV ANS (Gippsland East) . your guidance, Mr. Acting Chairman. -Earlier, the Minister in charge of Members of the Country Party sup the Bill said he was enjoying the dis port the contention that the con cussion because it was one of the best sumers should be in the majority on debates to take place in this Chamber the proposed council. The Country for a considerable time. The reason Women's Association is extremely for this could be that Parliament has well chosen, because it is an organi now returned to a position in which zation which would carefully select it can knock into shape bad legisla its members for the council. tion brought forward by the Govern ment. That is the prope:r function of A provision that the consumers the Parliament; it should not merely should be specified after consultation put the stamp of approval on any with various bodies is definitely measures introduced, regardless of needed. The Government apparently their merits. sees fit to name the bodies which should be consulted with regard to Members of the Country Party manufacturing and retailing. It is have listened with interest to the only fair that the consumers' side arguments submitted by members on should be specified to make sure the both sides of the House and in par council is completely above board. ticular to the amendment moved by It is important in this case that justice the Leader of the Opposition. We should not only be done but also that agree with the viewpoint put forward it should seem to be done. Accept by the Opposition that in a council ance of the amendment will remove such as is proposed it is essential that any suggestion that the group will the interests of the consumers should be unduly influenced. The Country predominate. This is an important Party proposes to support the amend principle, particularly bearing in mind ment. the fact that, I believe, the consumers mentioned in the amendment will be The ACTING CHAIRMAN (Mr. wisely and properly selected after Whiting).-! call on the honorable reference to bodies which have the member for Essendon. interests of consumers very much at Mr. LOVEGROVE (Fitzroy).-! rise heart. to a point of order. I submit that the debate should be divided equally An important point which has not between the two sides. The next been made strongly is that the con speaker should be an Opposition sumers council will have no actual member. authority to carry out its recom mendations. It will only be able to Mr. WILCOX (Minister of Immi recommend to the Minister, and gration) .-Speaking to the point of surely that is all the protection neces order, I should like to say that it sary against the council going too far looks as though we are getting into in any of its recommendations. If a little confusion. I appreciate why Opposition members shouJ.a suddenly any of them are to be put into effect, be jumping to their feet, but as I the Minister must take action. We understand it, the practice for some agree also that the body ought to time has been that when members have the right to initiate investiga of the Country Party indicate they tions on its own account. intend to vote against the Govern The ACTING CHAIRMAN (Mr. ment, it has been the custom of the Whiting).-Order! The honorable Chair to allow the next speaker to member is discussing a subject which be a Government supporter. In these Consumers Protection [4 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Bill. 1203 particular circumstances, with the The ACTING CHAIRMAN (Mr. surprise announcement of the Deputy Whiting).-! uphold the point of Leader of the Country Party, I can order. I invite the honorable mem understand why some of the Opposi ber to confine his remarks more tion members are concerned. I submit closely to the amendment to para that the practice of the House should graph (c) of sub-clause (1) of clause be adhered to. 3. The ACTING CHAIRMAN.-There Mr. WHEELER (Essendon).-I am is no point of order. I call on the at a loss to understand why the point honorable member for Essendon. of order has been upheld, Mr. Acting Chairman, because I am referring to Mr. WHEELER (Essendon).-I take the interests of manufacturers in re exception to the statement or refer lation to sales being made by people ence, or possibly I could term it the employed by them. My remarks are inference, of the Leader of the Oppo related to the provisions contained in sition that most manufacturers are clause 3. Why should not the manu dishonest in their practices. That facturer have some representation on is a grave injustice to people who are the Consumers Protection Council? not here to defend themselves. Why should anyone take exception to a After all, the basis of his livelihood representative of the Chamber of is the sale of his goods in a proper Manufactures or a person represent manner to the public. If he does not ing the interest of manufacturers present his goods to the public truth being appointed to the Consumers fully and honestly, he will soon go Protection Council? I believe the to the wall. The interests of the council is a vital link with the manu manufacturer should be protected in facturer, because high-pressure sales the same way as the interests of any men impose on suburban consumers. one else. Paragraph (b) relates to They tell them anything in order to the representation of the interests of make a sale, and this fact has a direct retail traders. Why should not retail effect on the manufacturer. In many traders be represented? instances, statements made in respect of goods are quite untrue. In the Mr. STONEHAM.-We agree with professional engagements columns of that, but we want greater represen the newspapers there are such adver tation for consumers. tisements as this- The CHAIRMAN (Mr. Rafferty). Sales assistant. A bright future exists for Order! The honorable member for a person of pleasant personality, well Essendon should relate his remarks to educated, to be able to further position with the company. the amendment to paragraph ( c) of sub-clause ( 1) . Another advertisement states- Big salary for the right man. Will be Mr. HOLDEN (Moonee Ponds). trained by our professional and experienced On a point of order, Mr. Chairman, staff. I seek a definite ruling whether mem The only interest many salesmen bers must debate the amendment to have is how much they will receive in paragraph ( c) of sub-clause ( 1) only commission at the end of the week. or whether the whole of clause 3 can be debated at this stage. Mr. TURNBULL (Brunswick West). --On a point of order, as I under The CHAIRMAN (Mr. Rafferty). stand it, the Committee is now deal The question before the Committee ing with the personnel of the council. is the amendment which has been I believe the arguments now being moved to paragraph (c) of sub submitted by the honorable member clause (1). When that amendment for Essendon are irrelevant to the has been disposed of, the clause as amendment before the Chair. a whole may be discussed. 1204 Consumers Protection [ASSEMBLY.] Bill.

Mr. WHEELER (Essendon).-Para the trouble to read the amendment, graph (c) of sub-clause (1) pro which provides, inter alia- vides for the appointment of two per Four persons representing the interests sons representing the interests of the of the consumers of whom one shall be consumers, of whom at least one selected after consultation with the Aus shall be a woman. The amendment tralian Consumers Association . . . submitted by the Leader of the Oppo Those members who have studied sition proposes that the number of the reports promulgated by the Aus persons representing the interests of tralian Consumers Association are consumers shall be increased to four. aware of the great service that this The honorable member referred to particular body renders not only to a consumer council in England which consumers but also to manufacturers consists of twelve members. The and traders generally. I am disturbed population of England is about that the Government, which, after 70,000,000, compared with Victoria's all, represents many types of population of 3,000,000. business people, is not prepared to accept the suggestions of the Opposi The Leader of the Opposition also tion. There is no doubt that to-day said that consumers were not orga the consumer is in need of protection nized. I believe the consumer's so far as standards, misleading de greatest enemy is himself. I have scriptions of goods, false advertise the highest regard for consumers be ments and hire-purchase are con cause I have made my living from cerned. The Government started off them, but I have also sold a pure extremely well when it proposed the article and given good service. Para name of the Consumers Protection graph (c) of sub-clause (1) pro Council. However, it was not until vides for the ·appointment of two just prior to the by-election for the persons, at least one of whom shall South-Eastern Province that the in be a woman, to represent the in troduction of this Bill was terests of the consumers. I point announced. If the proposal is to ap out that. the second representative of point a Consumers Protection Coun-. the consumers' interests could be cil, it should be a council of con appointed from the Country Women's sumers. Association or some other women's We all know that the interest of organization in Victotj_a. There is the Government is in the manufac nothing in the Bill to prevent that turers and retail traders. The being done. This would give a organizations mentioned by the Op pretty wide representation to women. position came into existence to pro I believe the Bill, as drafted, pro tect the consumers of Victoria; they vides ample representation for all have devoted their activities to this concerned, and I support it. end. As the Country Party, which Mr. TURNBULL (Brunswick West). normally supports the Government, -The honorable member for Essen has announced its intention to sup don has been arguing with himself, port this amendment, is it not reason able to ask that the Government because he said he has no objection should give the amendment further to the appointment of a representative consideration? It is obvious that the of the Country Women's Association, Government is not prepared to sup and that there is no reason why such port its own measure. After all, the an appointment should not be made person representing the interests of under the provisions of paragraph the manufacturers will be a member (c) of sub-clause (1). Therefore, of the Chamber of Manufactures. why does not the honorable member Mr. WHEELER (Essendon).-I rise agree with the proposal advanced by to a point of order. I understand the Leader of the Opposition? Ob that the Committee is debating the viously, members on the Government amendment proposed to paragraph side of the Chamber have not taken ( c) of sub-clause (I) . Consumers Protection [4 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Bill. 1205

The CHAIRMAN (Mr. Rafferty). should be represented on the pro Order! The honorable member for posed Consumers Protection Council. Brunswick West should relate his re As I have already stated, twenty of marks to the amendment. these organizations have made repre sentations to the Government, and Mr. TURNBULL-What better no doubt, when this matter gets a organization could be represented little more airing, there will be many than the Australian Consumers more applications. Association? Then there is the Victorian Housewives' Association Mr. STONEHAM.-That has nothing which has done an excellent job for to do with the amendment. the housewives of Victoria. I Mr. WILCOX.-It has a lot to do suggest that the only way to with it. In discussing the representa " get through " to the housewives tion on the proposed council, honor is through one of their associations. able members seem to have over These dedicated organizations are looked the fact that there are to be their watchdogs. If I were to five members, one of whom is to be go into the subject of prices, I chairman. It is not stated that he would be met with more attempts shall represent any particular inter at frustrations by Government ests. Obviously, he will need to be a members. good man-I hope that will be the The Country Women's Association case. Five is a good number, but if is completely non-political, and is the council were to be enlarged, there comprised of dedicated people who could be no end to its size. endeavour to ensure that country The CHAIRMAN (Mr. Rafferty).- women are not taken down by the Order! Paragraph (d) of sub-clause "slick" traders, manufacturers and people carrying on business in the (1) of clause 3 relates to the ques city. Members of that association tion of the chairman. The Com have a thorough knowledge of false mittee is concerned with the pro advertisements, because they read posed amendment to paragraph (c). advertisements every day. Mr. WILCOX.-1 shall deal with Mr. JoNA.-They see them on tele the amendment which proposes the vision. increase in number. No matter to what degree membership of the coun Mr. TURNBULL-Yes, television cil was enlarged the principle would now reaches the country areas. I be the same. If all the people who come now to the body known as the sought to be represented were given Melbourne Trades Hall Council. I representation, there would be no end am sure that you, Mr. Chairman, with to the size of the council. I suppose your knowledge of the trade union there would be at least 50 different movement, would agree that any per groups of retailers alone and a similar son nominated by that body would number of manufacturers. The Gov be a proper person and would have ernment would be delighted to have an adequate knowledge of the re the co-operation of any of these quirements of the consumers of Vic groups, including even the Trades toria. I support the amendment. Hall Council and certainly the Country Women's Association. I join Mr. WILCOX (Minister of Immi gration) .-The Government is not issue with the Leader of the Opposi prepared to accept the amendment. tion, who made a great point of say The Government would welcome the ing that the Government would be ap co-operation of the bodies referred to pointing some hand-picked hacks of in the amendment submitted by the the Liberal Party. Leader of the Opposition, as well as Mr. STONEHAM.-Our amendment the co-operation of the numerous is to the contrary; yours is not. other bodies which believe they Surely that is obvious. 1206 Consumers Protection [ASSEMBLY.] Bill.

Mr. WILCOX.-The Government Midlands who is now a member of has had considerable experience in the Transport Regulation Board. I appointing people as members of a refer to Mr. Mactier, who is a very number of Boards, Commissions, good man. The point is that he was committees and councils. I challenge hand-picked by the Liberal Party. Our the honorable member to give me the amendment provides specific quali names of these hand-picked mem fications for the four representatives, bers of the Liberal Party, hacks of the on similar lines to those relating to Liberal Party, who have been appoint manufacturers and retailers. In our ed by the Government. This Govern view they are more important and ment has a very honorable record in greater care should be taken in ap its appointments. Amongst others pointing those members who are to it has appointed to the bench of the represent the consumers. The pro Supreme Court of this State persons vision as it is in the Bill could open who have been members of the the door and permit precisely what Labour Party in the past. I join issue I have said is likely to take place. with the Leader of the Opposition There is nothing in the measure which when, as a responsible member of would prevent it. There could be this House, he makes charges of that two completely unqualified persons, nature. The honorable member ought one of whom would be a woman, who to withdraw them. I throw them could be hand-picked hacks of the right in his face. When the Leader Liberal Party. Under the Opposition's of the Opposition talks about hand amendment that could not happen, picked hacks he should think about as it provides that, after consultation the Trades Hall and some of the mem with four highly responsible bodies, bers of his party and he will know these additional members would be more about hand-picked hacks. On selected. The Minister has not re behalf of the Government, I will not plied to the Opposition's case. accept his statement that we are pro posing to appoint to the new council The Committee divided on the hand-picked hacks of the Liberal question that the paragraph proposed Party. The whole record of appoint to be omitted stand part of the sub ments made by this Government to clause (Mr. Rafferty in the chair)- numerous public bodies says other Ayes 34 wise. In any event, if any of these people so appointed did happen to be Noes 24 members of the Liberal Party then I am glad to say that at least they Majority against the would be representing all sections of amendment 10 the community, which is more than AYES. any other party in this House could Mr. Balfour Mr. Meagher claim. Mr. Birrell Mr. Reid Mr. Bloomfield (Box Hill) Mr. Chairman, I think I have indi Mr. Bolte Mr. Reid cated that the Government does not Mr. Borthwick (Dandenong) Mr. Christie Mr. Rossiter proposed to accept the amendment. I Mr. Darcy Mr. Rylah believe five is a sensible number for Mr. Dixon Mr. Scanlan the membership of a council of this Mr. Dunstan Mr. Stokes nature, to get cracking on its job. I Mr. Evans Mr. Tanner (Ballaarat North) Mr. Taylor shall reserve my remarks on the other Mr. Fraser Mr. Trethewey proposed amendments to the relevant Mr. Gibbs Mr. Wheeler stage. Mr. Holden Mr. Wilcox Mr. Hudson Mr. Wiltshire. Mr. STONEHAM (Leader of the Mr. Jona Opposition) .-Replying briefly to the Mr. Loxton Mr. McCabe Minister, one case that comes im Mr. Macdonald Tellers: mediately to my mind is a former (Burwood) Mr. Stephen opponent of mine in the electorate of Mr. Manson Mr. Suggett. Stamps (Motor (4 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Oar) Bill. 1207

NOES. 2. Any application to register or notice Mr. Clarey Mr. Ring of acquisition made or given by a person Mr. Cochrane Mr. Schintler who under the Motor Car Act 1958 is not Mr. Divers Mr. Stirling liable to pay a registration fee or who is Mr. Evans Mr. Stoneham liable under that Act to pay a fixed regis (Gippsland East) Mr. Sutton tration fee of £1 10s. but not being an Mr. Floyd Mr. Trewin application to register or notice of acquisi Mr. Holding Mr. Turnbull tion in respect of a motor cycle or trailer Mr. Holland Mr. Whiting for which a fixed registration fee of £1 10s. Dr. Jenkins Mr. Wilkes is payable. Mr. Lovegrove Mr. Wilton. Mr. McDonald 3. Any application to register or notice (Rodney) Tellers: of acquisition made or given by an executor Mr. Mutton or administrator of or by any person ad Mr. Mitchell ministering the estate of a deceased person Mr. Phelan Mr. Trezise. if the application or notice is made or given PAIRS. only for the purpose of the transfer of the Mr. Gainey Mr. Fennessy motor car or trailer to a person beneficially Sir Wm. McDonald ISir Herbert Hyland entitled thereto or for the purpose of the Mr. Porter Mr. Crick. sale of the motor car or trailer in the course The clause was agreed to. of winding up the estate. 4. Any application to register or notice Progress was reported. of acquisition made or given by- ( a) any sewerage authority under the STAMPS (MOTOR CAR) BILL~ Sewerage Districts Act 1958; The House went into Committee of (b) any trust within the meaning of the Ways and Means. Mildura Irrigation and Water Mr. BOLTE (Premier and Trea Trusts Act 1958; surer) .-I move- (c) any authority within the meaning of the Water Act 1958; and That on and after a day to be fixed by proclamation by the Governor in Council to ( d) any river improvement trust under be published in the Government Gazette the River Improvement Act 1958. there shall be charged under and subject 5. Any application to register or notice to the Stamps Act 1958 as proposed to be of acquisition relating to a motor car or amended for the use of Her Majesty upon trailer made or given by a municipality. any instrument specified hereunder the duties specified hereunder:- For the purposes of this resolution- £ s. d. " Application for registration " means On every application for regis an application for the registration tration of a motor car or of a motor car or trailer under trailer- the Motor Car Act 1958 but does for every £100 of the market not include an}> application for value of the motor car the registration or renewal of regis or trailer in respect of tration of a motor car or trailer which the application is made by a person in whose name made and also for any such motor car or trailer was last fractional part of £100 of registered (whether in Victoria or such market value 1 0 0 elsewhere) before the date upon which application is made. On every notice of acquisition of a motor car or trailer- " Notice of acquisition " means the for every £100 of the market notice that is by virtue of sub value of the motor car or section (2) of section twenty-one B trailer at the date that of the Motor Car Act 1958 re the person giving the quired to be sent or delivered to notice of the acquisition the Chief Commissioner. acquired possession of " Motor car " and " trailer " shall have the motor car and also the same meanings as are assigned for any fractional part of to them respectively in the Motor £100 of such market Car Act 1958. value 1 0 0 Exemptions. The motion was agreed to, and the 1. Any application to register made or resolution was reported to the House notice of acquisition given by a licensed and adopted. second-hand dealer who carries on a business of dealing in motor cars or trailers On the motion of Mr. BOLTE where the application has been made or the notice given in the course of and for (Premier and Treasurer), the Bill the purposes of carrying on such business. was brought in and read a first time. 1208 Stamps (Motor f ASSEMBLY. I Oar) Bill.

Mr. BOLTE (Premier and Trea re-registration of a vehicle by an surer) .-I move- owner who has allowed the registra That this Bill be now read a second time. tion to lapse. Only applications for registration in the name of an initial I ts purpose is to give effect to the owner or notices of acquisition con Budget proposal to levy a stamp duty seque~t upon a change of ownership, on documents relating to new regis will be dutiable. Thus, the duty will trations or transfers of registration be payable only once in each period of motor vehicles. The duty will be of ownership of a vehicle, and will at the rate of £1 for each £100 or be payable at the time of submitting part thereof of the market value of the application or notice involved such vehicles. As I indicated in the to the Motor Registration Branch. Budget speech, this form of stamp The stamp duty will be payable at the duty has already been introduced in same time as are other fees associated three other States. It was introduced with new registrations or transfers in New South Wales in 1962, and in of registration, and this will be of Western Australia in 1963, at a rate convenience .to the public, as well as of !Os. per £100, or part thereof, of facilitating the collection of the duty. market value. The South Australian Budget this year introduced the duty The stamp duty is to be calculated in that State at a rate of £1 per £100. on the basis of the market value of The proposal now before the House the vehicle at the date of application broadly follows the form of legisla for registration, or of the notice of tion and administrative arrangements acquisition. The applicant for regis adopted in each of these States. tration, or the person giving the notice of acquisition, is required to The stamp duty will be levied on make a declaration as to the market the application for registration of a value of the car or trailer, and to pay new motor vehicle, or on the notice the duty on the basis of such declara of acquisition of a second-hand motor tion. However, provision is made for vehicle. In accordance with the pro the Comptroller of Stamps, if he is visions of the Motor Car Act, such not satisfied as to the amount de applications and notices are required clared to be the market value, to to be furnished to the Motor Regis obtain evidence as to the market tration Branch when motor vehicles value from the person concerned, and are bought new or second-hand. The to issue a further assessment of duty definitions of " motor car " and if necessary. " trailer " adopted for the purposes of this Bill are those used in the The Bill provides for certain ex Motor Car Act, and the specified emptions from the duty. No duty documents relating to the initial will be payable on applications and registration and the transfer of such notices in cases where no registration vehicles will be subject to stamp duty fees are payable under the Motor Car unless otherwise exempted. The Act. The exemptions include ambu term " trailer " referred to, as defined lances, vehicles of the Metropolitan in the Motor Car Act, covers vehicles Fire Brigades Board and the Country without motive power of their own which are designed solely or prin Fire Authority, tractors used in con cipally for the carriage of passengers nexion with the business of a pri or of goods for hire or in the course mary producer, cars owned by in of trade. capacitated discharged servicemen, and vehicles used solely for inter It should, of course, be made clear state trade. I might point out that that this duty is not to be annual in vehicles used solely for interstate character. The duty will not apply trade are granted an exemption only to the normal annual renewals of because there are certain legal diffi registration of a motor vehicle, nor culties associated with them; they will it apply to an application for would not otherwise be exempt. Public Works Loan [4 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1209

Exemptions from the duty are also PUBLIC WORKS LOAN provided for applications or notices APPLICATION BILL. by licensed second-hand car dealers The debate (adjourned from Octo where the vehicles are acquired by ber 27) on the motion of Mr. them for resale; for vehicles acquired Porter (Minister of Public Works) by committees of management of for the second reading of this Bill was lands under the Land Act 1958; for resumed. applications or notices given by executors and administrators of de Mr. PHELAN (Kara Kara).-In ceased estates in the course of trans speaking to this Bill, it becomes ferring a vehicle to a beneficiary or necessary in many instances to ref er for the winding up of an estate, and to the specific items in the schedule, for registrations of vehicles by particularly as they are related to waterworks trusts, sewerage authori items in the Budget. Whilst the ex ties and river improvement trusts. planatory memorandum which was Vehicles, tractors and trailers attached to the Bill proves of great acquired by municipalities will also assistance to honorable members, it be exempt from the duty. is significant that there are dis crepancies between a number of the Clause 2 of the Bill covers the items enumerated in the schedule and necessary amendments to the Stamps the Budget provision for those items. Act 1958 to provide for the imposi In making general comments, I tion of the stamp duty, and for the hope the criticism which I offer will exemptions from the duty along the be treated as constructive. Certain lines which I have already outlined. pertinent aspects of the Bill require Clause 3 provides for the amendment explanation. I refer particularly to of the Motor Car Act to cover the explanatory notes memorandum machinery aspects of the collection which contains three columns, the of the duty and for penalties for first of which relates to the failing to give the necessary notices 1964 expenditure, the second to and to pay the stamp duty to the the proposed expenditure for 1965, Motor Registration Branch. and the third to the amount to be approved under the Bill. Al The estimated revenue from the though honorable members would stamp duty in a full financial year be interested in the total of is of the order of £2,250,000 and, as those three columns, it is strange that announced in the Budget, this revenue no totals were supplied. My calcula will go to Consolidated Revenue. As tions reveal that the total expenditure indicated earlier, the bulk of the ad for 1964 amounted to £29,000,000, the ministration of this duty will be proposed expenditure authorized carried out by the Motor Registration under the Bill totals £35,956,000, Branch in the interests of convenience whilst the amount issued under the to the public, and to make use of Bill totals £45, 109,000. the established machinery for hand Like the Budget documents, I ling the registration documents. Con found it difficult to understand solidated Revenue will, however, this loan application Bill without bear an assessed contribution towards a good deal of close study. In the cost of collection of the stamp fact, I discussed the Bill not duty by the Motor Registration only with Government members, Branch, based on the additional costs but also with members of other involved. I commend the Bill to the parties, and I found that very few, House. if any, could give me any assist ance. As a consequence, I spent a On the motion of Mr. LOVEGROVE considerable amount of time with (Fitzroy) , the debate was adjourned senior Treasury officials, and I am until Wednesday, November 11. indebted to them for the courtesy 1210 Public Works Loan [ASSEMBLY.] .Application Bill. and assistance which they extended ambiguity which should at least be in helping me to unravel the mass of put into its correct context. The first figures that exists. The first observa reference is to a total loan works tion which one must make is that ap approved programme of some proval is sought for the expenditure £60,000,000. The next reference, al of an amount equal to 15/12ths of the though it is in the same terms, is not sum included in the Budget for this to the same loan programme. It might year; the appropriation for author be assumed that this would relate to ized works therefore increases from the works programme approved in £35,960,000 to a total of £45, 109,000. the Budget, but to my amazement I was informed that that was not so. Mr. BIRRELL.-That covers the The relationship is to the official loan extra three months. programme specifically approved by Mr. PHELAN.-That is not a news the various Departments. So, in fact flash. The specific items contained there is not a works programme ap in the Budget do not necessarily rep proved by this House. It is high time resent the works to be carried out that Parliament as a whole knew more under the present Bill. Certain items about what is happening with this contained in this authorization are for great volume of money that is being works that have already been carried spent by the State. out, some of which have not been The important point I want to make approved by Parliament. Another is that, despite the fact that this loan important point which emerged from application Bill is based on precisely my study, and it is an alarming one, 15/12ths of the sum of £36,000,000, is that the total value of works, which there comes a time when-we have are initiated under this Bill greatly already passed through four months exceeds this loan application. I believe of the current year and a considerable Parliament should be concerned about amount of the £36,000,000 to be ap this, because a study of the second proved must have already been spent reading notes reveals constant refer some of which, I realize from my dis ence to the term " the approved cussions, will be recouped to the works programme," yet at a time Treasurer's Advance Account-this when the House is considering the will catch up with the Government. application of some £45,000,000 We are, in fact, living beyond the neither the Minister of Public Works financial means of any particular nor the Treasurer is in the Chamber. year because the amount provided in the Budget is not related to the Mr. MITCHELL.-That is nothing amount provided in the loan applica new. tion Bill. Mr. PHELAN.-No, but it is signifi Mr. BIRRELL-That is right. cant. I believe when public expendi Mr. PHELAN.-No, it is precisely ture of the magnitude to which I wrong. If the Government is pre have referred comes forward for dis pared to accept it as right, I am not. cussion in this House, the responsible No honorable member could accept Minister should be in attendance to it as prudent financial management. answer any queries that may be The general position of the finances raised. In his Budget speech the of this State is alarming. Treasurer referred to "the approved Mr. BLOOMFIELD.-Can the honor loan works programme for the State able member tell me how the Budget for the current financial year." What deals with loan funds? is the approved works programme at Mr. PHELAN.-! realize it is a mat the present time? I have asked that ter of method with which we are question of several honorable mem dealing. The present method of deal bers and have received differing re ing with sums of money of this mag plies. I also asked senior Treasury nitude is not very satisfactory be officials, who agree that this is an cause, in the implementation of the Public Works Loan [4 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1211 loan works programme, works repre increase by £3,017,000 the total senting many millions of pounds amount for loan redemption during more than the value of the works the following years. That is going approved in a particular year are on and on and, in the not too distant being initiated, and commitments are future, the stage will be reached being made that the future may or where a careful stocktaking of the may not be able to encompass. That State's finance will have to be made. is a dangerous situation, as a careful That is evident from an examination examination of what is happening in of loan borrowings which are grow consequence of this state of affairs ing and which are initiated in these will reveal. loan applications Bills. In the year 1960-61, the figure was £52,000,000; Mr. BLOOMFIELD.-Do you suggest in 1961-62, it was £53,500,000; in that no schools be built until ap 1962-63, it was £55,500,000; in 1963- proved by Parliament? 64, it was £58,500,000; and in 1964- Mr. PHELAN.-! do not suggest 65, it will be £62,500,000. that at all, but imprudent financing I have referred to discrepancies. is no solution to the management of Item No. 1 of the explanatory state this State's finances. ment mentions a sum of £12,735,000, Mr. BLOOMFIELD.-Do you suggest for schools, hostels and teachers' that no schools be built pending the colleges, but on page 48 of the passing of this Bill? Budget Papers the relevant figure is £12,745,000. That i8 just a little dis Mr. PHELAN.-The Minister is the crepancy of £10,000, which nobody only person I have heard make that could explain until I spoke to Trea statement. sury officials. I was informed that The SPEAKER (Sir William if I turned to another item altogether McDonald).-Order! The honorable -item No. 35, providing for advances member for Kara Kara should to municipalities and other public address the Chair and not members bodies for water, sewerage and drain of the House or the Minister. age works for schools, and other public buildings-I would see an Mr. PHELAN.-The general pat amount of £20,000 provided for the tern to which I have referred has to current works programme and a sum be taken in hand. In short, the of £50,000 to be issued and applied amount provided and spent under the under the Bill. Of this sum, £10,000 loan application Bill in any particu was for education-the amount I had lar year is never related to the Bud been looking for. get figures which Parliament ap proves. As a consequence, the stage Why should this be a subject of will be reached where a fixed con research by an honorable member tent of the total revenue will be com wanting to ascertain the figures that pletely out of proportion, and that go to make up the totals presented will be dangerous for this State. In to the House? If I had asked the fact, a dangerous level is being Minister of Public Works or the reached at the present time. That Treasurer, I would have been amazed opinion is shared by many who are if either honorable gentleman could much more competent than I am to have stated where that £10,000 had study figures. This aspect needs to gone. be examined closely. Provision is made for the expen This year there is an increase of diture of £386,000 on research farms £6,000,000 in the loan works pro and stations during the current finan gramme. What will be the net effect cial year, and the amount to be issued of that? The Treasurer has stated and applied under the Bill is £650,000. that the total commitment of our I hope my criticism can be taken as overall borrowing for this year will being constructive, because there is 1212 Public Works Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill. a lot of significance in the facts I am For the Fisheries and Wildlife bringing forward. A tally of the Branch the sum of £89,000 is pro sums to which I have referred shows posed for expenditure during the that items requiring expenditure in current financial year. The amount excess of £1,000,000 are being initi to be issued and applied under the ated on an approval of £386,000. The loan application Bill is £125,000, matter is highlighted by a reference which includes provision to start a to item No. 5, which provides for new administrative block at Heidel the expenditure during the current berg. That will cost a figure un financial year of £295,500 on the known to this Parliament, yet we will Attorney - General's Department, glibly pass this Bill not knowing the whereas the amount to be issued and future consequences to the State's applied under the Joan application finances. Bill is £600,000. The Minister's speech indicates that £300,000 is pro I believe we have put an unfair vided for the commencement of new responsibility on senior Treasury law courts. This work is to start in officials; in my book, they have a the latter part of the year or probably most onerous and unenviable respon in the first quarter of the next finan sibility. The wages and salaries cial year. The total cost of that schedule in the Budget documents is project could be between £1,500,000 one of the few complete tabulations and £2,000,000. that can be followed intelligently and reconciled. I believe it would be of Mr. MANSON.-The rest will be great value to honorable members if provided in the next financial year. they used it. · Mr. PHELAN.-That is something I have referred to the Fisheries and my instinct has told me. This is an Wildlife Branch. No member· of the ever-mounting problem. It concerns House knows what has been initiated me because the financial future of the as a result of approval being given to State is being mortgaged to a point these items in the Bill. A similar where it is becoming dangerous. So situation applies to the Weights and much money is being spent on capital Measures Branch, in respect of which works that the State's liquidity is £18,000 is to be expended during the being ruined. It will result in a current financial year, while the greater proportion of the State's amount to be issued and applied capital works having to be provided under the loan application Bill is for out of revenue. Alternatively, £40,000. Here again major works it will be necessary to increase are being initiated. For the Govern borrowings, thus mortgaging a higher ment Printing Office, £59,000 is to be a.mount for interest and redemption spent during the year ending 30th costs. Neither of these courses is June, 1965, and approval for a total of sound financing. £150,000 is sought. Mr. BIRRELL-How otherwise can I recognize that by some co the works be financed? incidence the figure of £45, l 09, 750, Mr. PHELAN.-The State must which is the amount to be applied out live within its means. Once the ratio of the Loan Fund, is precisely fifteen of capital expenditure to total income twelfths of the total amount to be gets out of tune in private life, in approved for expenditure during the business or in State finance, we are current financial year. There are skating on thin ice. In the financing many non-recurring items and many of State works, current income must recoup items which have been in be related to capital works. I agree cluded and which indicate that this is with the Minister of Education that a blank approval. there are some pressing necessities, but with certain capital works some Mr. BIRRELL-It is like an esti body has to sit down and make an mated gas bill-the same principle is intelligent decision on priorities. involved. Public Works Loan (4 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1213

Mr. PHELAN.-If the honorable under item No. 34. It is very diffi member for Geelong had made a cult to trace items by going through study of this subject, as I have, them in alphabetical or any other sort he would know what he was talking of order. More members of this about. There is no analogy with an House should take an interest in and estimated gas bill. This is a subject discuss problems of this nature in of great moment to the State and it order to encourage Treasury officials should be to every member of the to make necessary amendments. If, House, yet the Government bench is for some practical reason, the com practically empty. I have discussed mercial principles and practice to the Bill with some members of the which I am accustomed could not be Government party and it is impos followed, I would be satisfied. How sible to get answers to queries with .ever, as I have said, education is out going to senior Treasury officials, listed under item No. 34 in one docu I believe that is a reflection on the ment and under another number in responsibility of the Government. other documents. One should be able I wish to level one criticism in re to pick up education under a particu lation to the form of presentation. lar item whether it is in the Budget Items 23, 39 and 40 are headed, " Soil Papers, explanatory notes, or any Conservation" in the explanatory other document. I accept without notes, but item No. 30 of the question the assurance of Treasury schedule to the Bill reads- officials that there are some operat Grants, loans and assistance made avail ing difficulties in the way of adopting able pursuant to section 14 (3) of the Soil such a principle. Conservation and Land Utilization Act 1958, No. 6372. I now wish to refer to item No. Item No. 40 reads- 57 of the schedule which re1ates to Provision of plant, machinery, vehicles compensation payments to settlers in and equipment and expenditure incidental the north-west Mallee in relation to thereto for the purposes of the Soil Con what is commonly known as the servation Authority. Mudge case. A disappointing fea If one merely read the first words ture is that the amount provided of those two items, one would think under this Bill is about half of the they were related to something else. total that is required to settle the I believe this is bad presentation. claims in accordance with the court It is important that honorable decision. I do not think any section members should take an interest in of this Parliament can hold its head this matter. up on this issue; nor do I think any Although they carry a heavy re section of this House should refuse sponsibility, Treasury officials are not to approve an amount in settlement unreceptive to suggestions. I found of this claim which has been deter that, when I suggested minor changes mined by the court. Surely in this that may be of assistance, there was issue there is a principle involved. no difficulty in getting recognition of Mr. MEAGHER.-lt has not been de the principles that I have mentioned termined by the court. here. I have referred to only one item but practically every item is in Mr. PHELAN.-A formula was laid a different order from one document down by the court which was good to the next. I have discussed item enough for the Government to settle No. I of the schedule with Treasury on. officials. I have been informed that Mr. MEAGHER.-You are wrong. the problem is one of accounting pro cedures and difficulties in· making the Mr. PHELAN.-If there is some necessary changes. technicality about the way the court In this Bill the item relating to gave its decision-- education is No. 1. However, in an Mr. MEAGHER.-That is not what other Bill education is dealt with I said. 1214 Public Works Loan (ASSEMBLY.] .Application Bill.

Mr. PHELAN.-A decision was responsible members of this Govern given. Whatever the amount, it is ment will have to fix priorities for grossly in excess of the amount that capital works in order to bring the was offered, and I do not think the ratio of capital expenditure to total sum provided under this Bill is suffi revenue into some sort of perspective. cient to cover it. I am not going to say that any particular party is either Mr. DARCY.-Surely that is being blameless or responsible for the done now. situation, but surely this Parliament Mr. PHELAN.-It is not. Under will honour a decision that has been this Bill, millions of pounds worth of made having regard to the fact that works are being initiated, of which the case has been outstanding for this Parliament and the Ministers are fourteen years. I believe something not aware. It can be said that one like 37 deceased estates are involved can get the idiot treatment anywhere and that in some cases considerable without coming here and getting it hardship has been sustained and con from specialists. I know the resump siderable costs have been incurred in tion of State taxing rights is another court cases and disputes. The matter alternative to be tried. There are having been determined, I believe arguments for and against, but some Parliament should meet the costs in one must determine the way which volved in the settlement. this State is to go, and it must ·be done in the not too far distant future. In every case which comes to liti There must be some other forward gation there are rights and wrongs, thinking than increasing the loan pro and I am not going to try to arbitrate gramme. Since 1954 the loan liability or express an opinion. However, of this State, under this Government, irrespective of party politics, has risen from £196,000,000 to I believe this Parliament should abide £955,000,000. That is an alarming by the judgment of the court and situation. Surely, as sane respon settle without further dispute. Surely sible men, we are not going to permit that is a principle which all members . the approval and initiation of loan uphold in the common interest. programmes that will commit this Having spent quite a lot of time in State for much more than we are, studying the Budget, I have reached budgeting. At some point of time four conclusions. My first con the day of reckoning must come, and clusion is that if this State is to con it is not too far away. tinue the present volume of its works On the motion of Mr. STONEHAM programme a greater Commonwealth (Leader of the Opposition), the de allocation will have to be obtained; bate was adjourned until next day. otherwise, there will be a financial calamity in the not too distant future in this State. ADJOURNMENT. "TAKE-ALL" DISEASE IN NORTH-WEST Mr. WHEELER.-Do you not think VICTORIA-MOTOR CAR ROAD the Government is aware of that fact? WORTHINESS TESTS-SPENSLEY Mr. PHELAN.-! would not think STREET, CLIFTON HILL, STATE so; it is remarkable how dangerous SCHOOL: REPORT ON OUTBREAK OF & little knowledge can be. As I said, HEPATITIS. if this State is going to proceed, it Mr. BALFOUR (Minister of Lands). must receive a greater allocation from -I move- Canberra. That the House, at its rising, adjourn until to-morrow, at half-past Three o'clock. My second conclusion is that, if this does not eventuate, capital works The motion was agreed to. will have to be curtailed to some ex Mr. BALFOUR (Minister of Lands). tent, irrespective of remarks such as, -I move- " Don't we want schools? " Some That the House do now adjourn. .Adjournment. [5 NOVEMBER, 1964.] .Adjournment. 1215

Mr. WHITING (Mildura).-1 ask Mr. BALFOUR (Minister of Lands). the Minister of Lands to inform the -I shall direct the attention of the Acting Minister of Agriculture of the Acting Minister of Agriculture to the outbreak in the north-west of Vic matter raised by the honorable mem toria of the disease commonly known ber for Mildura and shall see that as "take-all." This is not an annual departmental officers look into it. disease, and doubtless has been Mr. RYLAH (Chief Secretary).- brought about by adverse weather 1 shall examine the problem men conditions. I ask that officers of the tioned by the honorable member for Department of Agriculture be given Gippsland East, and shall consider every opportunity and encourage whether anything can be done. If he ment to study this disease in order can suggest to me the name of a suit that a remedy may be found for use able person to carry out motor vehicle in the event of future outbreaks. It roadworthiness tests in the Bonang would seem that this fungus affects area, the answer to the problem barley grass, spear grass and cereal would be to grant a licence to this crops. Very little is known of it, and person. in some instances, in the Quyen and Underbool area, it has been estimated Mr. ROSSITER (Assistant Minister to have caused up to 20 per cent. of Education) .-In reply to the loss to the crops. It is not yet known Deputy Leader of the Opposition, whether the disease has abated, or some inquiries and some tests have whether further damage will be been made by the Department of caused. Health into the outbreak of hepatitis Mr. B. J. EVANS (Gippsland East). at the Spensley-street State School. -I direct the attention of the Chief I am awaiting the results of this Secretary to a situation in the Bonang inquiry and the tests, and I shall in area arising from the administration form the honorable member as soon of the Act relating to the road as I have received them. worthiness of motor vehicles. A The motion was agreed to. property was sold on a walk-in walk out basis, which included the transfer The House adjourned at 10.39 p.m. of ownership of a tractor that was on the property. In order to obtain a roadworthiness certificate it was necessary for the seller of the pro 1Jl.egtslutin.e A1latmbly. perty to transport the tractor 80 miles to Orbost, where the nearest testing station was located, and re Thursday, November 5, 1964. turn to the farm at a cost of approxi mately £30. This is rather a severe penalty, and I should like to know whether there is any way in which a The SPEAKER (Sir William similar problem can be overcome. I McDonald) took the chair at 4.15 appreciate that it is only an isolated p.m., and read the prayer. instance, but nevertheless it could cause a real hardship to people in PUBLIC WATER SUPPLIES that area. (FLUORIDATION) BILL. Mr. LOVEGROVE (Fitzroy).-! ask For Mr. DARCY (Minister of Water the Assistant Minister of Education Supply) , Mr. Balfour (Minister of whether or not he has instituted an Lands) moved for leave to bring in a inquiry into an outbreak of hepa Bill to regulate the fluoridation of titis affecting children at the public water supplies. Spensley-street State School at Clifton Hill, whether he has received The motion was agreed to. the report, and whether he has pub The Bill was brought in and read a lished the results of the report? first time. 1216 Public Water Supplies [ASSEMBLY.] (Fluoridation) Bill.

NATIONAL PARKS (AMENDMENT) it intend that these authorities should BILL. be enabled to add fluoride without Mr. BALFOUR (Minister of Lands) referring the matter to their rate moved for leave to bring in a Bill to payers. It is therefore proposed in amend the National Parks Act 1958. this Bill to make the adoption of fluoridation subject to a poll of the The motion was agreed to. ratepayers of the individual com The Bill was brought in and read a munity concerned. The Bill requires first time. a 70 per cent. vote to be cast in a poll in favour of fluoridation before PUBLIC WATER SUPPLIES the water authority can be authorized (FLUORIDATION) BILL. to implement the process. Similarly, Mr. BALFOUR (Minister of Lands). the same majority is needed before -I move- the authorization can be repealed. That this Bill be now read a second time. Mr. STONEHAM.-Is there any The purpose of this Bill is to enable special reason why 70 per cent. has water supply authorities who mav been adopted? wish to do so to add fluoride Mr. BALFOUR-The Government to their supplies after getting the felt that if 70 per cent. of the people appro~al of a substantial majority voted in favour of fluoridation, it of their ratepayers. This power has would indicate that a reasonable been requested by some . local majority of the community favoured authorities following a recent court the addition of fluoride to the water decision relative to the powers of a supply. council under existing legislation in As the optimum concentration of Victoria. The term " fluoridation " is fluoride to be established in the public used . to describe the process of in water supply system varies according creasm~ the naturally-occurring con to the climate, it is proposed that centration of fluoride in drinking the Commission of Public Health water up to the optimum concentra shall, in every case, determine the tion which is considered to be best limiting concentration which shall be for dental health. Fluoridation is established by a particular water thus a public health measure carried supply authority. That Commission out with the object of reducing the will also be required to specify the amount of ~ooth d~cay suffered by compound or compounds containing the c?mmumty, particularly children. fluoride which may be added to a This process which, in effect, water supply, and to make any means the use of the public water representations or recommendations supply to add minute quantities of in regard to each case as it thinks fit. this necessary "trace element" to the diet, has been widely adopted with This Bill contains provision for the the concurrence of medical and Governor in Council to make regula dental authorities in other parts of tions enabling the Commission of the world. It is in operation in Public Health to keep an adequate several Australian towns, including check on the concentration of fluoride one town in Victoria. Nevertheless established in water supplies by it is recognized that the adoption of means of regular analyses, tests and this method of improving dental records, and to provide adequate pro tection for persons who are employed h~ealth is a question which has given nse to much controversy, and the in handling or using fluoride from day people of different communities have to day in the fluoridation process. different majority views on the It may assist honorable members subject. if I briefly explain the clauses of the The Government does not propose Bill. Clause 1 contains the title to that water authorities should be the Bill, and provides for the Act to required to add fluoride to water come into operation on a day to be supplies under their control, nor does fixed by proclamation. Clause 2, Public Water Supplies [5 NOVEMBER, 1964.] (Fluoridation) Bill. 1217

which is the interpretation clause, set out in this notification. Sub defines the meaning of certain words clause (7) of this clause provides for and phrases. The definition of alteration of the conditions of " water supply authority ,, covers all approval and for revocation of the public authorities empowered to approval if 70 per cent. of the rate supply water under Victorian legisla payers vote in favour of revocation. tion. Clause 5 contains a provision re Clause 3 makes the addition of quiring any water authority adding fluoride to a public water supply fluoride to a supply at the commence subject to compliance with the provi ment of the Act to make an immedi sions of this legislation and the regu ate application for approval, and en lations made thereunder. Before add abling it to continue until the applica ing fluoride, a water authority will be tion is dealt with. Under clause 6, required to conduct a poll of its rate persons authorized by the Commis payers at which not less than 70 sion of Public Health will be given per cent. vote in favour, and the the right of entry to take samples ~.pproval of the Governor in Council of water from any point in a water is also necessary. Only persons act supply system. Clause 7 provides ing under the directions of the water a penalty of from £100 to £500, with supply authority are permitted to add a continuing daily penalty of £20, for fluoride to a water supply. non-compliance with the Act or any Clause 4 sets out the procedure to of the conditions attached to an be followed by a water supply approval under the Act. The section authority to obtain· approval under of the Water Act relating to evidence this legislation for fluoridation of its of documents issued by an authority supply. It is necessary for an appli is incorporated in this clause. cation to be addressed to the appro Clause 8 sets out the matters priate Minister, and a copy of the in which may be covered by regulations. formation must be sent to the Com A water authority adding fluoride to mission of Public Health. After con its supply may be required to take sideration, the Commission is re regular samples of water for testing quired to determine the maximum and analysis, by prescribed methods, concentration of fluoride which may by a prescribed authority or person. be established in the particular supply, and also the compound or The authority may be required to compounds of fluorine which may be keep certain records. It is the added. The Commission may also practice for these records to include make to the Minister any other repre the weight of fluoride compound sentations or recommendations it added, and the quantity of water thinks fit. This will ensure that supplied, so that a check can be made determination of the optimum con on the concentration of fluoride centration of fluoride to be estab added at any time. Persons operating lished in each particular supply, and fluoridation equipment may be re the suitability of the fluoride com quired to be licensed so that only ·pound to be used, will be under the properly trained operatives will be -control of the State's supreme health employed. The regulation-making authority. power also covers the handling of fluoride compounds and the protec It is provided that the notification tion of persons employed in such ·Of approval by the Governor in handling, so that recognized sound Council shall be gazetted, and shall and safe practices can be enforced. ·contain conditions regarding the I commend the Bill to the House. maximum concentration of fluoride and the fluoride compounds to be On the motion of Mr. STONEHAM ·used, as determined by the Commis (Leader of the Opposition) , the de ·sion of Public Health. Any other bate was adjourned until Thursday, necessary conditions shall also be November 19. 1218 Administration and Probate [ASSEMBLY.] (Small Estates) Bill

ADMINISTRATION AND PROBATE the gross value, and the good sense (SMALL ESTATES) BILL. behind this is that the Small The House went into Committee Estates Office does not have to under for the further consideration of this take the obligation of conducting an Bill. investigation to determine whether or not liabilities exist. Its purpose is Discussion was resumed of clause to endeavour to deal quickly with so 2, providing, inter alia- called small estates. Section seventy-one of the Principal Act shall be amended as follows:- Some confusion arises from the (a) For sub-sections (1) and (2) there fact that, in determining the gross shall be substituted the following value, the Small Estates Office com sub-sections:- pletely disregards jointly-owned " ( 1) Save as hereinafter pro property. A person may own a house vided, if a person dies leaving jointly with his wife, or with some property not exceeding One one else for that matter, or he may thousand two hundred and fifty pounds or (if the only person or even own several properties jointly persons entitled to take the and have a joint bank account, but in property of the deceased person such circumstances the property under the will or to share in the other than that belonging to the distribution of the surplus of the estate of such person is or are testator in his own right is dis the children only or the widow regarded. The officer in charge of only or the widow and children the Small Estates Office has informed only or the widower only or the me that it is possible for an estate widower and children or the widowed mother of such person) valued at £20,000 to be administered not exceeding Two thousand five under the procedure laid down for hundred pounds in value the small estates. In such a case the only person entitled to probate of the thing that matters is that the testator will or to letters of administra tion of the estate of such should not have in his own name deceased person may apply. assets valued beyond the ceiling. If the assets are jointly owned, they are Mr. WILCOX (Minister of Immi not taken into account. That seems gration) .-When this matter was last to be a rather unusual situation, and before the Committee there was some it constitutes the reason why the discussion between the honorable honorable member for Brunswick member for Brunswick West and my West and I were in some difficulties self as to whether the ceiling figures in determining what was really the quoted in the Act now being amended ceiling. I think I have now made the referred to the -gross value or the net point clear. value of an estate. It now seems to be clear that the Small Estates Mr. TURNBULL (Brunswick West). Office considers only the gross value -In the second-reading debate I indi of the estate, and the honorable mem cated that, when the Bill was in Com ber for Brunswick West was correct mittee, I intended to move two in what he said. amendments to clause 2. As the However, there is a difficulty in Minister has stated, the question of that a proper interpretation of the the meaning of property has been Act may mean that the Small amicably settled between us as the Estates Office could well use the net gross value. I am certain that if the value because the Act refers to a gross value is disregarded, difficul person dying and leaving property ties will arise as to who may or who not exceeding a certain amount. may not take advantage of the facili There is a strong argument in favour ties offered by the Small Estates of saying that if a person on his death Office. has assets worth £700 and liabilities The question of joint ownership worth ·£400, his estate is only £300. causes some difficulty, but that is However, that argument can be left brought about by the legal fiction aside because the practice is to use that, if two people jointly own Administration and Probate [5 NOVEMBER, 1964.] (Small Estates) Bill. 1219 property, immediately one dies the and a half times-and possibly rule of survivorship applies and the three and a half times-greater property becomes that of the survivor. than they were prior to that I do not know at what time the trans date. Few homes would be of a mission takes place, but the rule of lesser value than £2,500 according to law is designed in such a way that the municipal valuation. I intend to when one of the owners of jointly propose that the figure of £2,250 be held property dies, the property flees substituted for the figure £1,250 in to the survivor. Probably it was a the proposed new sub-section ( 1) of method of evading probate duty, but section 72 of the principal Act, and I understand that jointly-owned that the figure of £10,000 be sub property, generally speaking, apart stituted for the figure £2,500. from the matrimonial home is now subject to probate duty. Many homes owned by married couples in the suburbs of Melbourne These days there is a tendency for were purchased 20 or 30 years a man and his wife to own the matri ago for small sums compared with monial home jointly, and sometimes present-day values. I instance a case this creates problems during the term in Balwyn, where a man bought for of the marriage, particularly if £85 a block of land which to-day " mum " goes home to her mother would be worth between £5,000 and and there is a quarrel over dividing £6,000. Over the years, because of the jointly-owned property. many factors, there has been an Prior to 1926, the ceiling for an upward movement in values, and estate to be handled by the Small this applies particularly to land that Estates Office was £1,200 so far as is well situated. Yet the owner may property going to members of the receive a wage of only £18 or £20 family was concerned, and £500 for a week, and if he died he would leave property going to non-members of little other than that piece of pro the family. In 1926, the amount in the perty. In my view, there is no reason first instance was raised to £1,250. why his beneficiaries should not get the benefit of this legislation. Its For the information of honorable primary purpose is to enable the sur members, the basic wage at that time viving spouse to obtain full owner was less than £4 10s. a week. If that figure is taken as a basis and the sum ship of the property as quickly and of £ 1,250 is moved in accordance with as cheaply as possible. I realize that it, the present-day value to be sub the appropriate officer usually moves stituted would be much greater than quickly-he is used to dealing with the amount of £2,500 now suggested this type of case-and substantial by the Government. Under present amounts of money are saved by circumstances, the property left by a people in modest circumstances. person qualified to use the facilities provided by the Small Estates Office The honorable member for Moonee is usually a house. If it is in the name Ponds expressed amazement con only of the spouse who dies it goes cerning a case in his electorate in into the estate .. I have been informed which a man died, leaving a widow by the officer in charge of the Small there were no children. Section 50 Estates Office that it is usual to state of the Administration and Probate the municipal valuation as the value Act states, inter alia- of a house for estate purposes. There Where a person in respect of his residuary estate dies intestate leaving a surviving has been a recent change in the spouse but no issue the following provisions method of ascertaining municipal shall have effect with respect to such values and most of us who have estate- (a) Where the estate does not exceed some knowledge of valuations know in value Ten thousand pounds that as from September, 1964, such spouse shall be entitled to municipal valuations will be two such estate; 1220 Administration and Probate [ASSEMBLY.] (Small Estates) Bill.

Until a few years ago the amount was Committee to accept the two amend only £1,000, and the provision was ments I have foreshadowed. I con regarded as a little unfair. When sider that it would be convenient to a man and his wife earn money and deal with them both together, and I jointly buy a house, it would be un therefore move- just and unfair if, upon the death of That, in proposed new sub-section ( 1) the husband, the widow did not get of section 72 of the Principal Act, the the house without having to incur words " One thousand two hundred and fifty pounds " be omitted with the view of expense. Most of these cases relate inserting the words " Two thousand two to widows, and it would not hurt if hundred and fifty pounds " and that the the legislation had a higher ceiling words " Two thousand five hundred than £2,250. Properties throughout pounds " be omitted with a view of in the community are being re-valued, serting the words "Ten thousand pounds." and unless the Bill is amended the Mr. WILCOX (Minister of Immi great benefits of the legislation will gration) .-Both amendments con disappear. It is a question of how cern ceiling figures in different cir far the legislation should go. I think cumstances. The Government does it should go sufficiently far to permit not intend to accept them, and the the ordinary home, which is the prin honorable member for Brunswick cipal asset of the estate, to be sub might have anticipated this. ject to the benefit of the legislation. Mr. TURNBULL.-The Bill has been It may be that legal practitioners through another place. -proctors they are called in this division of the law-will be deprived Mr. WILCOX.-Yes. The Govern of some business. Over the years, ment has looked at the figures, and there has appeared to be a tendency there are a couple of facts I should on the part of legislators to take from like to point out to the Committee. solicitors the professional work asso First, I wish to say that the office ciated with small estates and give it dealing with small estates has done to a public official. It is well a good job, but I am always a little known that the Public Trustee is wary about extending the activities of appointed executor of many estates. the Government in the sphere of the The person of small means is en legal profession. Experience has couraged to go to him to have a will shown that if the Government be drawn up free of charge and to make comes too interested in the legal pro the Public Trustee the executor of the fession, the country eventually estate. In these cases, eventually, suffers and the citizens come to grief. the Public Trustee proves the will. He does engage a solicitor, but, as I Mr. Moss.-And solicitors suffer, understand the position, he charges too. lower executors' fees than the ordin Mr. WILCOX.-! do not think ary executor. solicitors will be greatly worried What I am trying to impress upon about what is proposed in this meas the Committee is that upon the death ure. In the past twelve months, the of a person owning a small estate Law Institute of Victoria in conjunc who has been in receipt of a modest tion with the Government has set up weekly wage, his widow should ob the Legal Aid Bureau, which I under tain the benefit of this legislation. stand is working quite well on a vol The Government has been fair enough untary basis. Legal services are to raise the ceiling figure, but I con rendered, possibly at no fee, although sider that it has not been raised it depends how the case works out. sufficiently, and that an amount of If the Leader of the Country Party the order of that which I have sug inquired from practitioners in his gested would be more fair and just district, I am sure some of them than the amount specified in the Bill. would agree that history reveals that For the reasons stated, I urge the where a Government interferes with Mr. Turnbull. Administration and Probate [5 NOVEMBER, 1964.] (Small Estates) Bill. 1221 the independence of the legal profes not the Government's intention to in sion, the country is in for trouble terfere with it. Joint ownership is because, if the legal profession is tied widely practised in the community, up with the Government, the citizens so that the benefit derived from the are in great difficulties in their con existing procedure is widespread. I tinual fights with the Government. point out that the increases proposed As the Leader of the Country Party in the Bill are in each case more than is aware, people have difficulty from 100 per cent., which are substantial time to time with, say, the State increases. Rivers and Water Supply Commis sion. If the legal profession was not As a matter of interest, I worked independent, we would all be in out some figures of comparable legal trouble. charges because clause 9 of the Bill deals with fees. Where a person's Mr. WHITING.-Do you think estate came within the ceiling and members of the legal profession amounted to £1,250, the Small should be prevented from becoming Estates Office would charge a fee of members of Parliament? £12 10s. A solicitor would charge only £13 for the same grant of pro Mr. WILCOX.-! do not think we bate, but he would probably do other should go to such lengths, because work for which he would be able to members of the legal profession charge a small amount. Therefore, serve a useful purpose wherever there is not a great deal of difference, they are. In regard to the amend but it should not be thought that the ments which have been moved by the Government does not make some honorable member for Brunswick charge for carrying out this work. West, I mentioned earlier that these ceilings are not nearly as real as they As I have said, the Bill does appear to be because the whole of a raise the ceilings by more than I 00 deceased person's assets which are per cent., and it is believed that this the subject of joint ownership are will . result in a real extension of excluded. The officer in charge of the benefits to a large number of people. Small Estates Office has informed me Furthermore, the benefits will be that this has the effect of bringing made more accessible to people in in estates to the value of £5,000, country areas. £10,000 or even £20,000. Mr. TURNBULL (Brunswick West). Mr. Moss.-Are you referring to -In the debates which took place in net assets? this House in 1926, when the ceiling was raised to £1,200, reference was Mr. WILCOX.-No. All the made to the value of homes bought jointly-owned assets are excluded. under the war service homes pro These ceilings apply only to the visions. The legislature was attempt assets which the deceased person ing to ascertain the approximate held in his own name. Any property value of a matrimonial home. At he owned jointly with some other that time, the home of the average person or persons is excluded. wage earner was valued at approxi Therefore, if he owned a property mately £1,000. for instance, a farm-jointly with his Mr. Moss.-At about £400. wife, this would be excluded. That is why these ceilings are somewhat Mr. TURNBULL-Not in 1926. unreal. This was the period immediately be fore the depression, and an ordinary This is an unusual circumstance. I house, together with the land, was am not sure whether the Small valued at somewhere about £1,000. Estates Office has been doing the The legislature was aiming at bring right thing, but it has acted in this ing the matrimonial home within the way for a number of years, and it is ambit of the Small Estates Office. 1222 Public Works Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill.

What is the value of the ordinary Clause 9 (Rules). matrimonial home to-day? I should Mr. TURNBULL (Brunswick West). say that, on a conservative valuation, -I understand that the fees it would be between £4,000 and specified in the clause were reduced £8,000. in another place, and in the circum I believe the ceiling should be stances I have no comment to make. raised to a figure which will accord Mr. WILCOX (Minister of Immi with the purpose of the legislation gration) .-As a matter of interest, as it was stated in 1926. One must the figures I quoted earlier as to have regard to the value of money. legal costs were comparable with One means of ascertaining the move those in the present Bill. ment of money values is to examine the basic wage. In 1926, the basic The clause was agreed to. wage was about £4 1Os. per week, and from then until the 1930's it was The Bill was reported to the nearer £2 or £2 1Os. a week. To-day, House without amendment, and the basic wage is £15 7s. a week. I passed through its remaining stages. believe it would be fair and just to fix the ceiling in proportion to the PUBLIC WORKS LOAN increase in the basic wage. APPLICATION BILL. I cannot take the matter any The debate (adjourned from the further, but with all the earnestness previous day) on the motion of Mr. at my disposal I urge the Minister to Porter (Minister of Public Works) agree to some increase of the figure for the second reading of this Bill which appears in the Bill. The was resumed. present tendency is for married Mr. STONEHAM (Leader of the couples to indulge in joint ownership Opposition) .-1 wish to relate my to a greater extent than formerly, remarks to item 49 of the schedule although many men in the com concerning the sum of £429,000 to munity still take the view that it is be applied for the restoration of their money that has been used to Kings Bridge. It is distasteful that I purchase the property and that should again have to refer to the sorry they will own the house in their own and shameful story of Kings Bridge, name. I believe in that principle be but it is essential that cognizance cause I have seen far too many quar should be taken of this provision in rels over homes which have been the schedule. When the schedule is held in joint ownership. I realize before the Committee, I shall move that joint ownership is a good idea if for the deletion of item 49. It is one can guarantee that the marriage the only means at the disposal of the relationship will remain on an even Opposition to express our complete keel, because, for one thing, it results and utter dissatisfaction at the in a saving in probate duty. It gives manner in which the Government the wife an interest in the matri dealt, first with the letting of con monial home. Of course, things do tracts for the original construction not always work out in that way. of the bridge, and, secondly, with Many men believe they should keep the terms agreed upon with Utah the house. I suppose some men are Australia Limited, Johns and Way well enough off to have a wife who good Limited, and the Broken Hill owns the matrimonial home. Care Proprietary Company Limited re ful consideration should be given to lating to their responsibility for the the amendments. restoration of the bridge, which col lapsed a few months after its con The amendments were negatived. struction. The combined aggregate The clause was agreed to, as were liability of those three firms was clauses 3 to 8. limited to £250,000. Mr. Turnbull. Public Works Loan [5 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1223

At page 89 of the Auditor-General's suggest that he defer his remarks report reference is made to the deed until then; otherwise the ground will of release which the Premier signed be covered twice. on behalf of the State, and which limited the ex gratia payment by the Mr. STONEHAM.-! submit that, three firms to £250,000 in discharge at this stage, I can discuss item 49. of their responsibility. According to The SPEAKER-It is my view the deed of release that sum was that the Leader of the Opposition agreed upon to avoid the cost and in~ can properly discuss this item in convenience of litigation. On payment principle. However, he is now dis of £250,000 those firms are com cussing it not merely in principle but pletely released from any responsi in great detail. I suggest that the bility, and, further, there is a com detail could well be left until the plete release and discharge- Bill is in Committee. That is the In respect of the said defects or any other purpose of the Committee stage. defects that may hereafter appear in any constituent components of the bridge, or Mr. STONEHAM.-Thank you, Mr. any loss or damage. Speaker, I shall certainly abide by Moreover, the Premier, on behalf of your ruling. My purpose in refer the State, indemnifies the companies ring to the conditions of the deed of against all actions·- release was to indicate that directly related to the sum proposed in the which from any cause or thing whatever has arisen or might hereafter arise or for, schedule is the fact that, although or in respect of, any matter or thing of the three companies have agreed to whatsoever nature, howsoever arising and pay £250,000 towards the cost of re whensoever arising out of, or in respect of, or in anywise relating to the contract or storation of Kings Bridge, the State anything done or not done by the builders, is responsible for the balance. or any of them in respect of or in anywise The provision is now shown in respect relating to the bridge. of the current financial year. I want The SPEAKER (Sir William to indicate, particularly in relation to McDonald).-Order! It seems to me that this debate will be repeated in this provision, the Opposition's disa the Committee stage. The Leader of greement with the Premier's attitude the Opposition gave notice that he concerning the degree of responsi intended to move for the deletion of bility that the honorable gentleman item 49 from the schedule. There attributes to the Country Roads fore, as the detail could well be re Board. On the 10th March of this argued · In Committee, perhaps it year, I asked the Premier the follow would be wise if he reserved this ing questions: - discussion until that stage. What are the details of the Country Roads Mr. STONEHAM.-! remind you, Board's degree of responsibility for the col Sir, of the history of Kings Bridge, lapse of the bridge? which is of tremendous importance If he will lay on the table of the Library the file dealing with negotiations in con to everybody in this State, and on nexion with the agreement referred to in which, for a long time, discussion question No. 6 and any correspondence with was sub judice. Item 49 in the the Country Roads Board dealing with the schedule relates to the repair and Board's blameworthiness? restoration of Kings Bridge. When the Premier asserts solemnly The SPEAKER-Order! I do not that the Government agreed that the dispute those points. It is apparent liability of the three firms concerned that all this detail will again be dis should be limited to £250,000 because cussed in Committee. As the Leader of the Country Roads Board's blame of the Opposition has now given worthiness, surely this Parliament is notice of his intention, at the Com entitled to a comprehensive state mittee stage, to move for the dele ment from the Government as to what tion of item 49 of the schedule, I constituted this blameworthiness. In 1224 Public Works Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill.

the Herald of the 10th December last, The SPEAKER-What is the point the Premier was reported to have of order? made this statement- Mr. TURNBULL-Surely, Sir, I The Country Roads Board's liability is am entitled to put the background being examined. The Royal Commissioner's report shows that the Country Roads Board of my point of order and to conduct was more to blame than the three companies myself here as if I were addressing a involved in the failure. court and giving a reason. The reason Yet when I asked the Premier the for the point of order is that the Op question I have quoted, the honorable position feels that this bridge should gentleman replied, inter alia- have been constructed not by the Apart from what I have said, and apart Utah company, but by the Holland from the findings of the Royal Commission company, and that there has been relating to the part played by the Country some negligence. Roads Board, it is not practicable further to detail the degree of responsibility resting The SPEAKER-Order! I am satis upon the Board. fied that the honorable member is not The SPEAKER (Sir William raising a point of order. McDonald).-Order! I have attempt Mr. TURNBULL.-! am giving you ed to make it clear that the purpose the background of my point of order. of a second-reading debate is to dis cuss a Bill in principle. In this debate The SPEAKER-Order! The hon it would be quite competent for the orable member will resume his seat. Leader of the Opposition to discuss Mr. TURNBULL-And you, Sir, in principle the reasons why the Bill will not hear me? should or should not be passed, as a The SPEAKER-I am trying to generalization of the whole measure. make the position in regard to this I would also regard it as being per debate perfectly clear. fectly competent for the honorable member to indicate that, at the Com Mr. TURNBULL.-! was trying to mittee stage, he proposed to move make myself clear, also. against a particular item or items. The SPEAKER-Order! I have told However, it is not proper to discuss the Leader of the Opposition, and I at the second-reading stage details am sure he agrees with me, that the that should properly be discussed in proper time for the discussion of the Committee. I do not want to instruct principle of a Bill is during the the Leader of the Opposition that he second-reading debate, and the proper must not go any further, but I am en time for a discussion of the individual deavouring to make him and all other points of a Bill in detail is the Com members of the House understand mittee stage. The honorable member that there is a proper time for the dis for Brunswick West did not raise a cussion of the detail of the clauses point of order, but attempted to and schedules of a Bill. argue the right or wrong of the ad Mr. TURNBULL (Brunswick West). ministrative act which is the subject -Mr. Speaker, may I address you on of an item in the schedule. I do not a point of order? propose to hear the honorable mem The SPEAKER-Yes. ber any further on the point. Mr. TURNBULL-Item 49 of the Mr. TURNBULL.-! shall have schedule to the Bill is in these terms- something to say in Committee. Recoup to the Melbourne and Metropolitan Mr. STONEHAM (Leader of the Board of Works of costs incurred in con Opposition) .-Mr. Speaker, I shall nexion with the repair and restoration of Kings bridge . . . £429,000. comply with your ruling and discuss As I understand it, that would be a the point when the schedule is before payment made by the Government to the Committee. A perusal of Hansard the Melbourne and Metropolitan over a number of years would show Board of Works for the cost it has that often the whole of the debate on incurred. public works loan application Bills Public Works Loan [5 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1225 has occurred during the second-read Richmond was the local branch of the ing debate and that frequently no dis Liberal Party. It takes the Liberal cussion on the schedule has taken Party something like seven years to place in Committee, proving that all catch up with popular demand, the items in the schedule have been and I am delighted to say discussed during the second-reading that its spokesman, the honor debate. With great respect to you, able member for Hawthorn, in Mr. Speaker, I point out, too, that last his maiden speech, indicated that night during the debate on a Bill that the Liberal Party now supports this was then before the House, fore demand. Of course, that statement shadowed amendments were freely was welcomed by all the citizens of discussed in detail by various Richmond who had been demanding speakers, before the Committee stage a high school for seven years. I am was reached. At this point I yield to now able to inform the Assistant your ruling. Minister of Education that every The motion was agreed to. group in the community, including his own party, is at one on this point, and The Bill was read a second time and feels that a high school is not only committed. necessary but long overdue. Clauses 1 to 4 were agreed to. The question of the establishment of a high school in Richmond raises Schedule. some matters of general principle Mr. HOLDING (Richmond).-! do which the Committee should not propose to take up too much of pause to consider. The first point I the time of the Committee on item 1, make is that a demand for a high but I feel it is appropriate at this school in an inner industrial district stage to place on record the continual like Richmond indicates the shifting struggle by the citizens of Richmond trend or emphasis in such areas in for the erection of a high school in regard to the urge for higher that area. Despite their substantial standards of ·education. The Ramsay efforts and despite the fact that the report on Victorian education at page Richmond City Council has now 32 stated, inter aZia- made it clear that it will give to the Throughout the nineteenth and even the Government land which would have twentieth century there was considerable a commercial value, if it were for support for the argument that most of the sale, of between £130,000 and people did not need and would not profit by £140,000, the citizens of Richmond a generous measure of education. have not been able to obtain from the Right up till 1939 a large proportion Government any real indication that of children, particularly those living a high school will be established. in working-class areas, left school at Mr. CHRISTIE.-Where is the land? the age of fourteen years. I believe that to no small extent this explains Mr. HOLDING.-It is land adjoin why in our inner industrial areas ing the Yarra Boulevard. No indica tion has been given to the citizens there is a considerable number of that a high school will be built in this technical schools and girls' secondary area, although in the course of pro schools and very few high schools. tracted negotiations the Education Mr. RossITER.-ls not that due to Department has fully conceded the the fact that a Country Party Govern need for a high school in my ment was kept in power by the electorate. Labour Party during the 1930's? Mr. RossITER.-Does every group Mr. HOLDING.-! do not want to in the community agree on this? be involved in party politics. The Mr. HOLDING.-For some seven Assistant Minister has made a silly years the only group that was not interjection. We are entitled to ex behind the move for a high school for pect better than that from him. 1226 Public Works Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill.

Mr. RossITER.-Your whole pre Government, irrespective of its politi mise is stupid. I am trying to get cal complexion, will have to face in you on to a higher level in this de the near future. bate. To show how strongly the people Mr. HOLDING.-! am only too of Richmond and, indeed, Hawthorn, pleased to debate the matter at what feel at this stage about this matter, ever level the Assistant Minister de I consider it appropriate to place on sires. The point I am making is that record their attempts to secure a high up till 1939 the community tended to school and the frustration which has believe that children living in inner been their lot as a result of the atti industrial areas would be satisfied tude taken by the Government. The with a second-rate education. There body which has led the community were some exceptions to this rule, but over the past seven years in the de the facts speak for themselves. There mand for these facilities has been the are technical schools and girls' Richmond District Parents' Council, secondary schools in inner industrial on which are represented almost all districts, but there is a lack of tech the State schools in the area. It has nical schools in the large, wealthy been joined by councillors from Rich areas. One does not find a technical mond, Collingwood and Fitzroy. school in areas like Brighton. There are six State schools in the Mr. RossITER.-What nonsense! Richmond electorate - Brighton The Brighton Technical School was street, Cremorne-street, Davison established long before you were street, Burnley, Yarra Park and born. Gleadell-street. There are no central Mr. HOLDING.-In the inner in schools in the Richmond, Colling dustrial areas there is a growing de wood and Prahran areas, the nearest mand by parents for higher educa being in Hawthorn and Kew. The tional opportunities. for their children. only high school in the area im The demand is legitimate and proper, mediately surrounding Richmond is and is one which should be conceded the Melbourne High School. by all members of Parliament, irre Mr. HuosoN.-There is a central spective of party. The Assistant school in Toorak. Minister of Educaton has pointed out in this House some of the educational Mr. HOLDING.-If the honorable problems of these areas. He stated member for Toorak would ever grace that the existing facilities in the inner Richmond with his presence he would areas were so inadequate that they find that it is a complicated and diffi should all be bulldozed away. cult matter to get transport for children from Richmond to Toorak. Mr. ROSSITER.-! said that 90 per The Melbourne High School is some cent. should be. That is different thing of a prestige high school, from saying that they all should be although the Minister of Education bulldozed. would probably deny that. Mr. HOLDING.-! stand corrected. I will not embarrass the honorable Mr. ROSSITER.-Why would he gentleman or the Government by ask deny it? ing where the 10 per cent. are that do Mr. HOLDING.-As a result of a not need bulldozing. The Assistant question which I asked of the honor Minster would be only too willing to able gentleman-- concede that in the electorates of Richmond, Fitzroy and Flemington Mr. RossITER.-You are one of the are schools which come within the most scurrilous attackers in this 90 per cent. category. The demand House. for higher educational standards in Mr. STONEHAM (to Mr. Rossiter) . these areas will continue to grow -That is an unparliamentary term, and it is something which any which you should withdraw. Public Works Loan [5 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1227

The ACTING CHAIRMAN (Mr. Mr. DUNSTAN (Mornington).-1 Wheeler).-Order! The honorable strongly object to being referred to member finds the words used by the as a McCarthy-ite, and I demand an Assistant Minister of Education ob unequivocal withdrawal of the ex jectionable. I ask the honorable pression. gentleman to withdraw them. The ACTING CHAIRMAN.-The Mr. ROSSITER (Assistant Minister honorable member for Mornington of Education).-Could you inform objects to the expression which has me, Mr. Acting Chairman, who found been used by the honorable member that my words were unparliament for Richmond. I ask the honorable ary? member for Richmond to withdraw The ACTING CHAIRMAN.-! said it. that the words were objectionable. Mr. HOLDING (Richmond).-Is it your ruling, Mr. Acting Chairman, Mr. ROSSITER.-Who is com that the term " McCarthy-ite " is un plaining about the words I used? parliamentary? I understand that The ACTING CHAIRMAN.-The Senator McCarthy was a notable Leader of the Opposition stated that Congressman in the United States of the word "scurrilous" was unparlia America. Like the honorable mem mentary, and he raised objection to ber for Mornington, he was a pro it. I ask the Assistant Minister to found anti-communist thinker, and he withdraw the remark. used the same sort of tactics con Mr. ROSSITER.-On what ground cerning teachers as does the honor does the Leader of the Opposition able member. base his claim that the word is un The ACTING CHAIRMAN.-The parliamentary? general use of the word " McCarthy ite " is considered derogatory, and I Mr. STONEHAM.-lt is one of the ask the honorable member for Rich words " in the book." mond to withdraw his statement. The ACTING CHAIRMAN.-The Mr. HOLDING.-If it is your Leader of the Opposition takes ex ruling, Mr. Acting Chairman, that the ception to the expression, and I ask expression is unparliamentary, I shall the Assistant Minister to withdraw it. certainly withdraw it. I shall con Mr. ROSSITER.-! withdraw the tinue to submit a case for higher word "scurrilous." educational facilities in the Richmond district, and I shall not take time off Mr. HOLDING (Richmond).-! am to gratuitously smear, under Parlia at a loss to understand the attitude mentary privilege, teachers in my of the Assistant Minister of Educa electorate, nor shall I make deliber tion. I am simply trying, without ate, false and misleading statements heat or emotion, to emphasize the concerning them as was done re legitimate demands of my electorate cently in this House by the honorable for a high school. These demands member for Mornington. are supported by the honorable mem ber for Hawthorn. If the Assistant Mr. DUNSTAN.-! repeated my Minister of Education wishes to take statements to the local press without the gloves off and have a brawl cover of Parliamentary privilege, and about this matter, I will be in it, and I shall repeat them publicly. if the McCarthy-ite from Mornington, The ACTING CHAIRMAN.-Order! who is interjecting-- Mr. HOLDING.-The honorable The ACTING CHAIRMAN.-Order! member for Mornington is so irre I suggest the honorable member for sponsible that he will say anything Richmond confine his remarks to the publicly. The demands of the people schedule of the Bill and that he be of Richmond for higher educational less provocative in his statements. facilities in the district date back 1228 Public Works Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill.

some seven years. For some curious The people of Prahran now have reason, the largest single high school their high school, and I do not object abutting on to the Richmond elec to their having facilities for higher torate, namely, the Melbourne Boys' education. However, it seems a High School, always seems closed to matter of irony that the people of students from Richmond. It appears Prahran, whose demands go back far to be zoned for areas such as Prahran less in point of time than those of and Toorak. the citizens of Richmond, should The requests for a high school have their educational needs met first. from the citizens of the Richmond When the Prahran council was de area were rejected by the Govern manding some specific sum of money ment on the basis that the acquisition for the land which eventually became of a site of 5 acres or more for the site for the high school, it was a high school would involve the told by the Minister of Education that Government in prodigious costs. It the people of Prahran should be was stated that if the Government public-spirited and public-minded had to acquire an industrial site it enough to regard education as a would be necessary to spend so much matter of urgency, and they should money on the land that it would be therefore be prepared to donate land come virtually impossible to build an for a high school. Specific reference adequate high school on the site. The was made in this instance to the first approach made on this matter generosity of the Richmond City was to· off er the Government land Council. adjacent to the Burnley horticultural Despite the generosity of the Rich school but, as that was public park mond council and the fact that the land, the Government decided that Education Department now fully it would be inappropriate to build a concedes the need for a high school high school there and, to that extent, in this area, no action has been taken those who feel that public parklands in the matter. The demands of the should not be alienated would agree Richmond District Parents' Council with the Government's decision. go back for a period of seven or eight The matter rested there for some years and, although there is ready two years, although the demands for and available for the Government higher educational facilities did not at a moment's notice land worth cease and the problems of people in £150,000, the people of Richmond this area became more urgent, as have not been able to obtain any children were travelling to places as satisfaction from the Government far away as Box Hill to acquire concerning the question when the proper educational facilities. The high school will be built in the area. matter was ultimately resolved by the The Assistant Minister of Educa Richmond council, at the request of tion has freely conceded in this House the Richmond District Parents' Coun that educational facilities in the inner cil, saying, " We will give the Govern industrial areas are inadequate. The ment an area of some 5 acr-es of honorable gentleman also knows, as land desirably located whiCh abuts do all other honorable members, that on parklands in that area." It is the buildings in the inner industrial ironical that this gift, which was areas are old and are, in many ways, made by a Labour council, became the no longer architecturally suited to the subject of an exchange of notes be demands of a modern education sys tween the Minister of Education and tem. Consequently, I would have the Prahran City Council when the thought that, as a matter of justice, council was endeavouring to nego it would be appropriate for the tiate with the Government on the Government to say, "We shall give question of building a high school some real priority to the demands of in Prahran. the people of Richmond for a high Mr. Holding. Public Works Loan (5 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1229 school." At this point of time all sec Mr. HUDSON.-! shall leave it to tions of the community, including the Assistant Minister of Education members of the Liberal Party, are at to give further information, but that is one on this issue. They are at one, the information I have. At this stage, first of all, in saying that a high I pay a tribute to the generosity school is necessary. of the Prahran City Council which Mr. BORTHWICK.-The honorable made this excellent site available and member for Hawthorn spoke about it. granted possession of it so that build Mr. HOLDING.-That is so, and I ing operations might start in Febru welcome the contribution made by ary this year. the honorable member on this matter I now relate my remarks to item because it has been very difficult to 21, Botanic Gardens. When the word obtain a similar contribution from "gardens" is mentioned in Mel honorable members who preceded bourne, I do not think anybody would him in the electorate of Hawthorn. doubt that the reference is to the We hope to have his assistance in the world-famous gardens, the Royal demands that are being made on this Botanic Gardens. It pleases me to issue, and I believe we shall get it. note that in this Bill an amount of The negotiations in regard to this £25,000 is being allocated to the matter have been protracted, but in Royal Botanic Gardens, because fairness I must admit that many diffi there is a great need for capital culties had to be overcome. Problems works to be undertaken there. The associated with the site were of major gardens were founded in 1846 at the importance, but they have now been instigation of Governor La Trobe. A resolved. Many citizens from all long time ago they started off on 5 walks of life have contributed of acres of land _adjacent to Anderson their time and energies to these street. The need for this capital ex demands and I hope that in the near penditure arises from factors of age., future the Minister of Education will contour and the type of grounds on be able to announce to the people of which the gardens were laid. It was Richmond the date on which they originally a rocky hill. The lush can look forward to having their high lawns and gardens that we see there school. to-day did not then exist. If honor Mr. HUDSON (Toorak).-First, I able members examine the cuttings should like to relate my remarks to near the Sidney Myer Music Bowl item 1 and refer to what has been they will see the type of silurian said by the honorable member for mudstone on which these gardens Richmond in regard to the Prahran were built. At the foot of this rocky High School. I have no doubt that in hill there was a marsh and a billa due course the Assistant Minister of bong from the Yarra river. Out of Education will give more facts, but that have come these magnificent item 1 of the schedule applies the gardens of to-day. money necessary to start building the Prahran High School. I know that Owing to the combination of cli the question whether a high school mate, contours and the type of soil, should be located at Prahran or at there are now growing in the gardens, Richmond had to be resolved, but my palms, pines and all varieties of understanding of the position is that plants. In fact, there is a greater due to the activities of the parents' variety of plants growing in the groups and various other people in gardens than there is any other part the City of Prahran, the location sug of the world. A visitor from gested at Prahran was adopted, and America mentioned the profusion of so priority was given to the needs of flowers and plants he could see, and Prah ran. said that in America he would have Mr. HOLDING.-That is not strictly to travel from Florida to the Great true .. Lakes to cover such a wide field. Session 1964.-51 1230 Public Works Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill.

These gardens cater for the needs I refer now to the kiosk. If mem of two essential parties. The first bers of the public are to enjoy the is technical and relates to botanical gardens, there must be a central specimens, and the other is enjoy point where people can gather, ment by the people. Over the years, have a good meal, be supplied the botanical collection has been in with information, see the various creasing. It was founded a long dioramas of the gardens, and so time ago by John Dallachy and sub on. Provision must be made for ~equently by Baron von Mueller. the parking of tourist buses so that From that time onwards, no further visitors can get to the gardens with money was spent on capital works. ease and enjoy their beauty. The If the gardens are to carry out their present kiosk does not meet these functions of assisting botanists, conditions. It is very old, and, al finance must be made available to though a certain amount of work has enable students to gain ready access been done on the kitchens, a person to the plants they want to inspect, going there for a meal has to face and, if necessary, guides must be up to a marble-topped table under provided to show people around. conditions which are not very good. The kiosk is positioned well inside The beauty aspect, which is the one the gardens and is not easy of access. of interest to the great majority of Funds should be provided to enable citizens, stems from Mr. Guilfoyle, the kiosk to be moved to one of the who was the artist in trees and boundaries of the gardens to allow flowers. I point out to honor people to gain access to it readily. able members that all this work It should form the focal point. was carried out prior to the year 1900. Since that time, there has Not much is known generally about been a long period in which no the National Herbarium which is even money has been spent on capital more famous internationally than the works, and the physical assets Royal Botanic Gardens, although of the gardens have been slowly age probably few citizens of Melbourne ing and deteriorating. So, the are aware of this fact. Government is now faced with con Mr. TURNBULL.-ls the Weights siderable expense. and Measures Branch still there? It Some money has been spent on the used to be. water services, and more is required Mr. HUDSON.-lt might have been for further work. Although the paths once, but I do not think it is now. The are not in a bad state of repair, one National Herbarium contains one of has only to walk around the gardens the finest collections of botanical to realize that the asphalt needs con specimens in the world. Baron Fer tinual maintenance. The buildings dinand von Mueller, who was the within the gardens comprise an im Government Botanist, was respon portant part of the area. The lodge sible for making an outstanding col at the corner of Anderson-street lection of original Australian speci and Alexander-avenue is unoccu mens. Because of his world pres pied and is, in fact, unfit for tige in this field, he had specimens human habitation. It is to be re sent to him by leading collectors in paired. Another very old building many countries. In the year 1900, half way up Anderson-street is, I the Victorian collection ranked fifth understand, to be demolished and in the world for size and number of rebuilt. Those buildings are neces species represented. Since then there sary to house the gardeners and to has been hardly any growth, and to ensure the security of the collection. day the herbarium's world ranking is It is most important that the gates somewhere between fifteenth and be manned so that people are twentieth. With all the growth that unable to get away with a lot of ex has taken place in Australia, it is pensive and desirable plants. deplorable that this collection has not Mr. Hudson. Public Works Loan [5 NOVEMBER, 1964.] .Application Bill. 1~31 been maintained at its former high Pharmacy as being manifestly those level, and even added to. Even so, it of a high-class technical college, and is still of great world importance be although a small annual grant was cause it contains basic material. made, this ceased after a few years. When a plant is collected and named, The importance of this pharma the basic specimen is the one that ceutical college is that it is the sole counts for most. As the years pass, school in Victoria for the training of a plant tends to change, and when pharmacists, but it is having trouble ever botanical knowledge about the with its finances and equipment, and species is required it is necessary to the Government is helping with this go back to the original type. grant. A couple of weeks ago, I One of the reasons why the Vic inspected this college and saw the torian collection is no longer included need for more money. Funds are in most of the world directories is required to develop a new branch for that, owing to lack of staff and the teaching of pharmacology, which finance, a large part of it is still not is an essential part of any pharma indexed, and until this work is car ceutical chemist's knowledge to-day. ried out the collection cannot be No longer is the pharmaceutical properly used. Ample finance should chemist concerned purely with the be provided for the National Her pounding up of pills. barium, which is of vital interest to Dr. JENKINs.-They have to put all botanists in this country, and in them together, not pound them up. this connexion I look for support from members of the Country Party. Mr. HUDSON.-They pound them up and put them together subse Item No. 74 provides the sum of quently. Nowadays, the pharma £13,000 as a grant towards the pro ceutical chemist deals with more vision of equipment and apparatus sophisticated drugs than formerly. for the Victorian College of On graduation from college, he will Pharmacy. There is a connexion be go out into practice, possibly with tween the National Herbarium and less experience of compounding and the pharmacy college in that von of the manipulative processes of Mueller, besides being a botanist, was pharmacy, which were so important also a pharmacist. The college is run in the past, but far better informed by a private body, the Pharmaceutical about the composition, properties and Society of Victoria, which established chemical structure of the myriads of it in 1882. The society provided the newer drugs. funds necessary for the construction To-day money is required for the of the old building in Swanston-street, new teaching laboratory for pharma and a few years ago, with the assist cology. Furthermore, there is great ance of the Government, it was need for a degree course to be instrumental in the building of a new instituted. Although in Victoria college at Parkville. This was built the college is only allowed to issue and furnished at a cost of more than diplomas, the needs are for degrees. £600,000, towards which the Govern Degree courses are available in ment advanced the sum of £300,000. Queensland, New South Wales, and A fact which stands out is that for South Australia. Unless the neces 82 years the Pharmaceutical Society sary funds are provided to allow for of Victoria has shouldered the degree courses to be undertaken, it responsibility for educating and train will be found that, despite the alloca ing pharmaceutical students and has tion made in this Bill, graduates from been responsible for saving the the Victorian College of Pharmacy Government many millions of will be restricted in the jobs they can pounds. In 1901, a Royal Commission take. Already jobs are being adver on Technical Education issued a tised in Victoria in which the stipu report in which it ref erred to the lation is that applicants must hold a functions of the Victorian College of degree. l232 Public Works Loan [.ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill.

Mr. STONEHAM (Leader of the neglect, but we reject outright the Opposition) .-Item No. 49 of the statement that it was the main schedule reads- offender. Recoup to the Melbourne and Metropoli In March of this year I placed cer tan Board of Works of costs incurred in connexion with the repair and restoration tain questions on the Notice Paper, of Kings Bridge . . £429,000. in one of which the Premier was asked the whereabouts of the file in I move- which the question of the Country That item No. 49 be omitted. Roads Board's blameworthiness was examined. The original cost of the As I pointed out in my second-read bridge was £4,313,000. The total esti ing speech, the purpose of this mated cost of repairs is now amendment is to register the Opposi £730,024, of which amount the three tion's complete disagreement and dis contractors are responsible for satisfaction with the manner in which £250,000, leaving a balance approxi the Government dealt, first, with the mating £500,000 to be borne by the contract for the construction of Kings taxpayers. Surely, that is a matter Bridge and, subsequently, with the of sufficient importance to warrant an determination of the liability for the investigation. What went wrong cost of repairs. The situation is that, within the Country Roads Board? if the whole of Kings Bridge collapsed How did the mistakes which the into the Yarra to-night, under the Government alleges occur? agreement which the Premier reached with Utah Australia Limited, Johns The Premier stated, in answer to and Waygood Limited, and the my questions- Broken Hill Proprietary Company The negotiations were conducted and Limited, irrespective of what proof concluded verbally between myself and was furnished of failure and neglect senior executives of the companies and the on the part of those parties, the chairman of the Country Roads Board. Government would not have the In reply to Sir Herbert Hyland, who right to recover one farthing. The asked whether the reference was to three parties mentioned have been the present chairman of the Board, completely indemnified not only in the Premier said " Yes," and regard to what has happened but also proceeded- in respect of any conceivable happen ing in the future. There is, accordingly, no file relating specifically thereto, nor is there any cor The Premier took unto himself the respondence with the Country Roads Board responsibility of saying that the dealing with its blameworthiness. Country Roads Board's liability was A matter of £500,000 was involved, being examined, and that, according and neither the Premier nor the to the repprt of the Royal Commis Country Roads Board bothered to sioners, the Country Roads Board was write a letter about it. In addition, more to blame for the failure than the honorable gentleman has said were the three companies involved. publicly that the Country Roads Surely the least we can expect, and the least the Country Roads Board Board is more to blame than the three can expect, is that the Premier should companies concerned. Where is substantiate that charge. The Op public administration in this State position disagrees with the Premier's getting to? One would think that, in smearing of the Country Roads Board order to justify the allegation against in those terms, but agrees with what the Country Roads Board, the the Royal Commissioners had to say Premier would inform Parliament about Johns and Waygood Limited why he accepted the ridiculous terms .and the other parties. Undoubtedly, of the agreement with· the three the Country Roads Board must ac companies that their liability should cept some responsibility for its be limited to £250,000. A thorough Public Works Loan [5 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1233 probe within the Country Roads Imagine that! No official document Board should have been undertaken existed-merely a number of letters to ascertain what went wrong. -in relation to the most important The Country Roads Board was sub-contract. This great American certain!¥ to blame !n some respects, firm had a magnificent reputation for but I wish to examme the actions of the construction of reservoirs, and the other parties. I wish to indicate everyone was leaning over backwards what the Royal Commissioners had to to get the contract for the Utah com say about Johns and Waygood Limi panY:. ~ do not say that with any ted. A most significant statement 1mphcation that anything was wrong· appears at page 16 of their report- it was just that everyone had such ~ high opinion of this company. . In its ~ender to Utah, Johns and Waygood did not mclude any particular item for the Mr. PoRTER.-Why are you saying cost of testing material. it? This was an oversight on the part of Mr. STONEHAM.-Because ob s~m~one at. Johns and Waygood L1m1ted. This firm put in its tender viously Utah Australia Limited and subsequently found that a lot of pr<;>ved to be incompetent bridge testing was necessary because for bmlders. Although this company was the first time in Australia w~lded very good at building reservoirs, the high-tensile steel was being used in construction of Kings Bridge was cer the construction of a bridge. tainly the worst contract in the Although the Royal Commissioners history of public administration not pointed out that the officers of the only in this State but also in Aus Country Roads Board were not com tralia. In relation to its contract with petent to make the inspection Johns and Waygood Limited, the effectively, nevertheless the Country Utah company got by with a series of ~oads. Board did embark upon a most letters. Naturally, when it comes to mtens1ve programme of inspections legal obligation, the Utah company is and tests. One can imagine Johns in the clear. and Waygood's position, because it omitted to make provision for this in Although it was the main culprit, its contract. by this exchange of letters, Utah Australia Limited got Johns and The then Acting Premier, Mr. Waygood Limited to carry the Rylah, issued a press statement on burden. Johns and Waygood Limited the 14th August, 1962, to the effect that Johns and Waygood Limited then issued a writ, because it issued a writ against Utah Australia found that under the pressure Limited and the Country Roads Board which the Country Roads Board for £405,000 for work done, materials was applying in respect of tests and provided and expenses incurred inspections, its expenses were such allegedly in excess of Johns and -the Royal Commissioners referred Waygood Limited's obligation under to this again and again-that it its sub-contract with Utah. wanted the "dogs" called off. The inspectors of the Country Roads In respect of the contract between Board were working flat out to pro Utah Australia Limited and Johns and tect the interests of the public. Al Waygood Limited, the Royal Com though in the opinion of the Royal missioners' report states at page 16- Commissioners-because this was a Unlike the contract executed between pioneering job, and because high-ten C.R.B. and Utah, and Utah and K.S.B.D., Utah's contract with J. & W. was never sile steel was being used for the first reduced into a formal document but is to time in Australia-the Country Roads be found in a series of letters. By the 4th Board inspectors were not competent September, 1957, these letters had resulted in the contract for the fabrication of the to carry out the inspections, never steel work. theless, they continued to inspect the 1234 Publia Worlcs Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill. work and insisted on a certain stan whole matter could then have been brought dard, with the result that Johns and into the open before any orders were lodged. Waygood incurred a terrific expense. Utah Australia Limited was scream The subsequent history of the matter discloses that J. & W. did not carry ing at Johns and Waygood to get the out the procedure with strict regard to girders into position on time, and the the onerous obligation undertaken, which inspectors of the Country Roads was to ensure the proper testing of all Board were attempting to do their steel, and the setting side without demur of steel which did not pass the tests on the job. Someone was responsible strictest basis. In fact there was a failure it has never been revealed who that to carry out all the tests to the fuU ex person was-for calling off the in tent of the specification requirement, and spectors, with the result that some J. & W. is found resisting testing by every available means, constantly urging reduc terrible things happened. tion in testing, and finally over-persuading I shall refer to some of the actions C.R.B. to relax the testing. In this respect of Johns and Waygood Limited. This we feel that J. & W. was clearly at fault. firm omitted to make any provision The Royal Commissioners have em in the contract for the cost of testing. phasized that it was Johns and Way At page 17 of the report of the Royal good Limited, not the Country Roads Commissioners, it is stated- Board, that was at fault. Surely Failure to order steel to specification: honorable members are entitled to a One of the critical events in the whole little more than a blunt statement story of the bridge occurred when on the of three or four lines in a newspaper 20th May, 1958, Johns and Waygood placed that the Government considers the its first orders with Broken Hill Proprietary Country Roads Board mainly to for the manufacture of steel in accordance with B.S. 968: 1941. The order omitted blame. The Government has placed any reference to the additional tests pre this blame on the Country Roads scribed by the Country Roads Board Board without giving it a chance to specifications. explain its position, and without The Country Roads Board is shown placing the facts on record for the up in a favourable light; it had guidance of future Ministers with a specified correctly, but those speci view to avoiding a recurrence of fications were not insisted upon by such a disgraceful and shocking Johns and Waygood when ordering debacle. the steel. Yet the Premier stated that the Country Roads Board was respon I shall now quote from page 51 of sible. The report continues- the report of the Royal Commis sioners on the aspect of the girders In the result J. & W. found itself bound to accept steel from B.H.P. without which were the first to crack when additional tests, and bound under its the bridge collapsed. The report contract with Utah to supply girders fabri states- cated from steel which complied with these additional tests. The elucidation of the From the time that random testing was mystery of how this extraordinary situation adopted the story of acceptance testing is came about, caused us considerable diffi a sorry one, and we feel no good purpose culty, and the evidence of the J. & W. would be served by analysing the reported witnesses did nothing to reduce the tests in detail. Several of the heats failed confusion. in the weldability Izod test and were never retested (Heats 49, 50, 51, 79, and 80). There is the first fact-that Johns Several failed, were retested and failed and Waygood Limited failed to order again. In fact, it was admitted by Scar the steel to specification. I turn now lett that testing was continued until satis to page 18 of the report, where the factory values were obtained. The climax of the testing story comes Commissioners stated- with the group of 8 " submitted heats." The importance of this matter cannot be The results of the first tests on these heats over-emphasized. When J. & W. became were so bad that J. & W. and C.R.B. convinced that B.H.P. would not supply should have been not only alerted steel in accordance with the C.R.B. specifi but alarmed. Regrettably, these heats cations, its plain duty was to have informed were treated as part of the general Utah and through Utah the C.R.B. The run. No plate Izods were carried out, and Mr. Stoneham. Public Works Loan (5 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1235 the weldability tests were first made four So far as negligence is concerned, the months after the submission. Of the eight heats, five failed in the tests, four of them first finding of the Royal Commis badly. Heats 52, 53, 54 and 55 failed on sioners relates to Johns and Way the first retest but were again retested. good Limited. The second point Heat 55 still failed, so was tested a was- fourth time. The decision by the C.R.B. to abandon the full programme of acceptance testing These were the four girders that and to carry out testing on a random basis. failed in tl~e first collapse- I have already explained that the Almost a year elapsed before these tests were completed, but although in September Country Roads Board was influenced 1959, these four heats were still showing by Johns and Waygood Limited in " fail " on retest, and should in fact have that matter. The third point was- been rejected, J. & W. wrote to B.H.P. requesting delivery. The acceptance by the C.R.B. and Johns and Waygood of the "submitted heats" After the steel had been resubmitted which B.H.P. had given them the oppor and rejected four times, Johns and tunity to reject or accept. Waygood Limited deliberately and The fourth matter of importance knowingly said to Broken Hill Pro was- prietary Company Limited, " Send it on." The girders went into the The offer by B.H.P. to Johns and Way good of the " submitted heats " by means bridge, and they were the first to of a letter which declared that " our crack. Is it any wonder they metallurgical investigation . . . . indi cracked? To give the story some cated that the steel quality is good . . . . cohesion, I shall complete the picture. also . . . . the steel would be weld able ". A proper investigation could not At page 96 of their report, the have supported such a statement. Commissioners said- In other words, the Royal Commis Harassed by the inspectors on the one hand, and on the other pressed by Utah sioners say that the Broken Hill for production on schedule, the J. & W. Proprietary Company Limited was management continually sought some re not telling the truth when it made laxation of inspection. All this mitigated that statement. Referring to other against the efficiency of the system. It is fair to say, therefore, that J. & W.'s atti findings affecting the Broken Hill tude contributed to the failure by the Proprietary Company Limited, we C.R.B. to discover important defects which find for example, that the report passed into the bridge structure. states at page 29- For some reason and at someone's Although much good steel was delivered instigation-I cannot say who was to the bridge the steel as a whole must responsible-there was a relaxation be regarded as unsatisfactory for three of the tests of the Country Roads reasons:- Board, with the result that this (a) It was too variable in quality. shocking failure occurred. At page (b) Much of it was found to be diffi 97, the Royal Commissioners went on cult to weld because of the high to say- carbon, manganese and chro mium content. Applying this somewhat restricted test we are of the opinion that the following ( c) Some of it, notably heats 55 and matters of importance do constitute negli 56, was notch brittle. gence- That relates to the steel as a whole, Then the first point they made was which was supplied for the bridge. Yet that there was a failure on the part the Premier avers that the Country of Johns and Waygood Limited, not Roads Board was to blame. What the Country Roads Board, to carry about Johns and Waygood Limited out its obligation. They stated- and the Broken Hill Proprietary The failure by J. & W. to carry out its Company Limited? There are other clear obligation to test and select, from the references, too, in the report which material supplied by B.H.P., steel which would have come within the full require involve the Broken Hill Proprietary ments of the C.R.B. specification. Company Limited. 1236 Public Works Loan [ASSEMBLY.] .Application Bill.

The Opposition wants a more Country Roads Board is mainly adequate explanation of the whole responsible. The honorable gentle matter. In this Bill Parliament is man contends that, for that reason, being asked to authorize the applica he did the right thing, in the tion and expenditure of a certain sum interests of the State, by agreeing of money this year. The Opposition with the three firms concerned that is definitely not satisfied about this. their liability should be limited to Therefore, we are moving for the the amount of £250,000. At that deletion of this particular item from stage, it was estimated that the the schedule. In favour of the Coun cost of repairs to the bridge would try Roads Board, there is the instance, be £468,524, with provision of quoted on page 15 of the report, an additional £51,500 for ancillary where the engineer for bridges of the purposes. Of course, since then the Country Roads Board, Mr. Masterton, bridge has been found to contain told Utah Australia Limited quite more grievous and serious faults, and bluntly that he was not satisfied that an additional amount of £210,000 the steel of Australian origin would has had to be added to that, as a be satisfactory. Utah Australia result of which the taxpayers of this Limited replied that Broken Hill State are required to pay approxi Proprietary Company Limited had mately £500,000 for the cost of given all necessary assurances that repairs. the steel could be welded. The Opposition feels that the There is not the slightest doubt Premier's admission that he had not that throughout this whole business bothered to write to or take up with Mr. Masterton was right on the ball. the Country Roads Board the ques Naturally this raises the question why tion of analysing its blameworthiness Mr. Masterton was overruled within is completely and utterly without the Country Roads Board and why justification, and is a grave reflection the Government-I am referring on the Government-in fact, it specifically to Cabinet decisions amounts to maladministration. The decided as it did. This was not just honorable member for Brunswick a routine matter of the Country West accurately stated the position Roads Board constructing another during the second-reading debate, bridge. This was a special, notable and I hope the honorable member occasion requiring special legislation. will contribute to this discussion Consequently, all the facts were on the question of the rejection known to Cabinet members, including by the Government initially of the the fact that high-tensile steel was to lowest tender, which was submitted be welded in Australia for the first by John Holland and Company time. The Cabinet comprised mem Proprietary Limited. That tender was bers such as Sir Arthur Warner and £700,000 less than that of the Utah Sir Thomas Maltby, the then Minister Australia Limited. There is no doubt of Public Works, both of whom are that if the Holland tender had been keen businessmen with a good deal accepted the State would have ob of experience not only in the accept tained a better bridge at a much ance of tenders by public authorities lower price. but also in respect of their private This whole matter-the question of business affairs. how the Government permitted such Surely it must be conceded that a complete schemozzle to apply to this matter is being left in a most the construction of the bridge in the unsatisfactory position. It adds to the first place, and then the lack of whole list of scandals associated with confidence in the Country Roads this unprecedented debacle so far as Board displayed by the Premier and public construction is concerned. his shielding behind his smear of the We are entitled to some explanation Board to justify the deal that he did of why the Premier asserts that the with the three firms-is most Mr. Stoneham. Public Works Loan (5 NOVEMBER, 1964.] .Applicat,ion Bill. 1237 unsatisfactory. From the facts. it is this school and, with a view to pro obvious that in respect of the viding additional accommodation, steel that was rejected four times the Education Department acquired a and again submitted, someone at number of residences on the northern Johns and Waygood should have side of the school property. All of been placed in the dock to explain the houses, apart from one, have why criminal action of that sort been demolished and, although the was taken. But the Premier is ground surface requires some atten prepared to wave all that aside tion, the most pressing matter is the and fix the blame on the Country fact that the remaining home is being Roads Board. The Opposition ob utilized for class-room purposes. The jects strenuously to his action. We East Coburg Primary School in completely reject the Premier's Nicholson-street, East Coburg, is also outlook and assert that, to its dis being used to accommodate students credit, the Government has, in this from the Moreland High School. I scandal of Kings Bridge, created have communicated with the Depart the worst debacle in the history of ment concerning this matter, and the the Commonwealth. It is the worst president of the school council has publicity this State has ever had. contacted the Assistant Minister of Everyone knows what a joke Victoria Education about it. is in the eyes of the other States over Kings Bridge. I repeat that, Unfortunately, the land occupied irrespective of what happens to this by the Moreland High School com unfortunate structure in the future, prises only a small area, and it is the State has no redress because desirable that the best possible the Premier has granted complete amenities should be provided for indemnity to Utah Australia Limited the use of the students. Until Johns and Waygood Limited, and the additional area to which I Broken Hill Proprietary Company previously referred was acquired Limited. I could say a lot more in by the Department, students at condemnation of the Government on the school were forced to eat this matter, but I shall reserve any their meals in the street-The further remarks that I may have to Avenue. In view of the fact that make until a later stage. summer is approaching, members of the school council would be ex The ACTING CHAIRMAN (Mr. tremely grateful if the Minister could Wheeler).-The Leader of the Oppo take some action which would relieve sition has moved for the deletion of the head master of the Moreland High item No. 49 from the schedule. The School of the necessity of using the question before the Committee, old home and the class-rooms at therefore, is that the schedule as East Coburg for accommodating proposed to be amended stand part students. of the Bill. Thus the full schedule and the amendment will be debated Earlier in the debate, the Leader together. The moving of the amend of the Opposition referred to item No. ment does not restrict the debate to 49, which relates to expenditure in a discussion of item No. 49. curred in connexion with the repair and restoration of Kings Bridge. The The sitting was suspended 'at 6.30 Opposition is extremely dissatisfied p.m. until 8.3 p.m. with the handling of this matter, Mr. TURNBULL (Brunswick West). which was previously the subject of -In view of the fact that the Assist a debate in this Chamber. For some ant Minister of Education is in the unknown reason, that debate was cut Chamber, I should like to relate my extremely short. Having secured the remarks to the Moreland High adjournment of the debate, I would School. During the past twelve have been the next speaker but, un months, there has been an increase fortunately, the subject-matter of the in the number of students attending debate suddenly disappeared from 1238 Public Works Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill. the Notice Paper, with the result that Government, for the construction of Opposition members have had in the bridge. There is no doubt that sufficient opportunity of criticizing a breach of contract was committed. the Government's handling of the There was neglect by Johns and Way construction and subsequent repair good Limited in its responsibility of of the Kings Bridge. It is obvious to fabricating the steel. all honorable members that a number There is no doubt, from what of extremely grave errors were com is stated in the report, that the mitted, not only in connexion with Broken Hill Proprietary Company the construction of the bridge, but Limited failed to supply steel in also in relation to the contracts accordance with the specifications. which were let for the work. These are clear cases of breaches of The Opposition considers that the contract right down the line, or, in bridge was constructed with in the alternative, there has been not sufficient attention being devoted to only breach of contract but negli a number of important factors. We gence on the part of the companies are concerned with the question of concerned, especially the Broken Hill responsibility for this neglect. I do Proprietary Company Limited and not know what is the estimated total Johns and Waygood Limited. I am cost of the restoration of the bridge, sure that any lawyer would advise but apparently the Government in the Government that Utah Australia tends to accept financial responsi Limited, the Broken Hill Proprietary bility to the extent of £429,000. In Company Limited, and Johns and view of the fact that the restoration Waygood Limited were liable jointly work is being undertaken by the Mel and severally for the whole amount bourne and Metropolitan Board of of the damage for loss which flowed Works, through its contractors, it from their negligence or breach of would seem that the Government contract. proposes to recoup the Board for the Members of the Opposition are expenditure involved. I understand amazed, as doubtless are the legally that the original contract for the con qualified members of the Govern struction of the bridge involved an amount of £2,500,000. ment, that the Government under took to make a contribution towards There are several lawyers within the cost of the repairs. Members of the ranks of the Government party the Opposition are desirous of criti and, although the Premier frequently cizing the Government on this aspect. criticizes academics, it is obvious After all, what was the responsibility that, when he wants competent Min of Utah Australia Limited? Its re isters, he looks to the academics sponsibility was to construct a bridge within his party. Be that as it may, after tenders had closed, the Govern which was safe for the purposes for ment saw fit to enter into a contract which it was to be used. An exami with a well-known American com nation of the chemical content of the pany, namely, Utah Australia Limited steel which was actually tendered by for the construction of the bridge. the Broken Hill Proprietary Company This company, in turn, arranged with Limited revealed that it was com· independent contractors to undertake pletely different from the chemical certain phases of the work. For ex compound of the steel it had under ample, the firm of Johns and Way taken to supply. In addition, it is good Limited was engaged to look obvious that the steel was not fab after the fabrication of the steel. The ricated properly, because it fell to supply of the steel was in the hands pieces. of the Broken Hill Proprietary Com pany Limited, and apparently the On that dramatic day when word Country Roads Board was the super went around that Kings Bridge had vising authority, on behalf of the fallen down, that was, to my way of Mr. Turnbull. Public Works Loan [5 NOVEMBER, 1964.] ApplWaJ,ion Bill. 1239 thinking, a great blow to the prestige That is true, because most of the of Victoria. The anti-climax of this information that Utah Australia Limi great drama is that the people who ted supplied in regard to the fabrica should have been employed to build ting of the steel led people to believe the bridge initially were called upon that it had some knowledge of the to repair it. I refer to one of the subject. The report proceeded- most prominent engineers in the cc This is clear from the statement of the Southern Hemisphere, John Holland, Utah's vice-president (Mr. J. D. Fogg) that who, on his return from the second the bridge design is the work of local world war, established a construc engineers." tion company in Melbourne. Honor In regard to John Holland's tender able members should not tell me that for the original construction of the I am talking after the ball, because bridge, my recollection is that he did I propose to read what I said in 1957. in fact have it checked by a professor at the university and by engineers in Apart from myself, the only person Melbourne. I then went on to say who did suggest more prudence in that the £700,000 might have been this matter was the honorable mem better spent on roads and bridges. ber for Gippsland South. He said in Why should the Government under this House that greater care should take to pay such a large proportion be taken in regard to this matter in of the cost of the repairs when the order to ensure that the bridge would responsibility in fact lies with the be the correct type of structure and contractor, Utah Australia Limited, or would be scientifically constructed. with the Broken Hill Proprietary What I said in regard to this matter Company Limited? The only way in was reported in the Age of 22nd July, which we can register our protest in 1957, as follows: - this matter is to prevent this amount from being passed by Parliament, and LABOUR M.L.A. ATTACKS NEW BRIDGE then the Government will be forced CONTRACT PRICE. to interview the representatives of Granting of the £2,500,000 King-street these companies in an attempt to get Bridge contract to an American firm was them to pay the cost of the repairs. attacked by Mr. Campbell Turnbull, M.L.A., last night. The Leader of the Opposition has He said Utah Australia Limited's con referred to various parts of the re tract price was £700,000 above that of the port of the Royal Commission, but, local tenderer. so far as the future is concerned, the At that time, everybody knew that lesson to be learnt is that these John Holland was the most com matters must be checked more petent engineer in the Southern accurately by engineers and chemists who have a knowledge of steel or Hemisphere to build the bridge. whatever other materials are used Mr. BORTHWICK.-ln your original in the construction of a bridge. For speech in this matter, did you not the reasons I have stated, I support congratulate the Government upon the amendment moved by the Leader getting Utah Australia Limited to of the Opposition. build the bridge? Mr. WILKES (Northcote).-This Mr. TURNBULL.-! am reading is the usual type of Public Works what I said, as it was reported in the Loan Application Bill which is pre Age in July, 1957. sented to Parliament annually. There is nothing out of the ordinary about cc The attempt by the Minister of Public the measure. It contains the same Works (Sir Thomas Maltby) to justify a price difference of £700,000 is amazing," he old allocations for the various items said. in the schedule and, as was the case with the Railway Loan Application cc Sir Thomas Maltby and some of his Cabinet colleagues are apparently mesmer Bill, very few increases compared ized by Americanism." with last year have been made. 1240 Public Works Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill.

I wish to refer in particular to The ACTING CHAIRMAN (Mr. ttem No. 1 of the schedule, which Tanner).-Order! Can the honorable relates to education. It is extremely member relate his remarks to the difficult to get the Minister of Educa question of buildings? tion, even though he now has an assis Mr. WILKES.-! can relate my tant, to reply to correspondence. A remarks to item No. 1 of the week ago, I had occasion, on behalf schedule. of a constituent of mine, to write to a Mr. WHEELER.-With great diffi Minister of the New South Wales culty. Government, and I received a reply in three days. Within a week, I received Mr. WILKES.-There is no diffi further correspondence from him culty. The item states- Schools, hostels, residences and teachers' telling me that he was able to accede colleges, including provision of subsidies to to my request. State school committees, high school advisory councils and technical school Mr. WHEELER.-Probably it was a councils . . . novelty for the Minister to get a I am discussing a matter raised by letter from Victoria. the Preston Technical College Mr. WILKES.-lt is a comparison, Advisory Council. and an odious one. The Preston Mr. PoRTER.-You are talking Technical College, which is attended about scholarships, a subject which by 600 students from my electorate, has nothing whatever to do with the has been concerned about the dis matters referred to in the item. tribution of Commonwealth scholar Mr. WILKES.-! have stated that ships to Form V. students, and I re the Minister of Education has not ceived a letter about the matter on the even acknowledged correspondence 10th October this year. I wrote to on an important matter. I wrote to the Minister of Education on 12th the Minister nearly a month ago, and October, and I have not received even I suppose the college and the advisory an acknowledgment regarding this council have now realized that the important question. In my letter I Minister is not interested in their said- problem. Mr. DIXON.-Is this not the pre Representations have been made to me by the Preston Technical College Advisory rogative of the Commonwealth Council. The council of this college is very Government? disturbed by what appears to be an over sight in the framing of conditions for the Mr. WILKES.-The Minister of awarding of Commonwealth secondary Education did not bother to reply to scholarships and it refers to the omission of my letter, and I should like him to do a large and important group of students so at the earliest possible moment. from participation in this scheme. Another matter which definitely Form V. students attending technical schools in Victoria are entirely overlooked, comes under the first item of the although Form V. pupils attending other schedule was brought to my notice types of schools are eligible for these by the Northcote City Council. The valuable scholarships in the ratio of town clerk wrote to me, on behalf of approximately a scholarship to one in eight pupils. I am informed that 153 Form V. the council, suggesting that I make students, girls and boys, are enrolled at this representations to the Minister con school who, if they attended a secondary cerning the fact that many pupils of school, could expect approximately nineteen technical school age in Northcote are Commonwealth secondary scholarships to be awarded among them. unable to find suitable accommoda tion to further their education within These are the figures for the Preston Technical College only. As there are the City of Northcote because there between eighty and ninety technical schools are no facilities for technical educa in Victoria, it is obvious that a large number tion in the area. The town clerk's of students will miss receiving a compara tively large financial benefit available to letter stated- their brother and sister students at the same ! am to draw to your attention the fact educational level attending other schools. that increasing enrolments at technical Public Works Loan [5 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1241 schools in neighbouring municipalities indi I received in the post a pamphlet cates to the council that there is a need for a junior technical school within this city. advertising The Blue Book. The envelope was marked, " If not At the present time, the Northcote and Thornbury high schools appear to be pro claimed within seven days, please re vi~ing fairly .adequately for the needs of turn to the Education Department " children seekmg a general education but and the pamphlet was all it contained. thos~ interested in a technical training are reqmred to attend schools outside the dis Mr. ROSSITER.-ls it paid for out trict wher~ conditions apparently tend to of loan funds? overcrowdmg. Mr. WILKES.-1 want to know T~e co1:1ncil would appreciate your con ferrmg with the honorable the Minister of how it is paid for, also why schools Education on this matter. and members of Parliament have to pay to get copies of this book. Last This I did, and I should like the year, I received one from the head Minister to give consideration to the master of one of the schools in my representations. There is in the area electorate, and I found it to be of one primary school which was used inestimable value in enlightening me extensively for housing pupils from on the historical background and the another district while a high school in organization of the Education Depart that area was being built. As the ment. Entitled Education Department number of students attending the school has diminished considerably of Victoria-Technical Schools, it is during the past eight or nine years, a very good publication. It states- the school could easily be adapted State Library of Victoria. . . . This ~rochu~e on technical sc~ools was first pub to this type of technical education. hshed m 1961 for the mformation of the newly-formed Advisory Council on Tech I should like the Minister to con nical Education. The limited edition was sider this matter because many quickly sold out. children in my electorate would avail themselves more readily of technical No copies were made available to education if the facilities were avail members of Parliament, and schools able. Now they are compelled to go which wanted copies had to comply to Preston, Collingwood or Bruns with the instructions on the pamph wick if they require this education lets sent to them. notwithstanding the fact that th~ The ACTING CHAIRMAN (Mr. technical schools in those municipali Tanner).-Order! I remind the ties have almost reached the limit honorable member for Northcote of their capacity. that if his complaint is that the book I bring to the notice of the Minister or pamphlet is not issued, he should of Education another matter in rela raise the matter at some other time. tion to item No. I of the schedule. Mr. WILKES.-1 am not complain I might say that the Assistant Mini ing that it is not issued. ster of Education, who has just Mr. PoRTER.-1 cannot see how its entered the Chamber, is much better cost comes out of loan funds. at replying to correspondence than the senior Minister, and much more Mr. WILKES.-1 do not know courteous and approachable. whether the cost is met from loan funds or from elsewhere. That is Mr. RossITER.-1 think that is an what I am trying to find out. invidious statement. Mr. TURNBULL.-Write to the Mr. WILKES.-lt may be. To-day, Assistant Minister of Education. I received a letter from the Assistant Minister of Education informing· me Mr. WILKES.-lt is useless to that tenders were being called for write letters. extensions to the W estgarth Central The ACTING CHAIRMAN.- School. I had not received this in Order! This subject does not relate formation previously, and I thank the to school buildings, and I ask the honorable gentleman for his courtesy. honorable member to desist. 1242 Public Works Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill.

Mr. WILKES.-! bow to your rul Item No. 36 of the schedule re ing, Mr. Acting Chairman, and I 'shall lates to the allocation of £100,000 certainly raise the matter of this for contributions to the National book on another occasion. Although Parks Fund for the purposes of the the Education Department might not Authority constituted under the wan_t to accept responsibility for National Parks Act. Item No. 37 it-- deals with the amount of £120,000 Mr. BORTHWICK.-You are raising for contributions to the Tourist Fund the matter again. for the purposes of the Tourist De velopment Authority. I am appeal Mr. WILKES.-! am merely round ing for a small allocation to be made ing off my remarks and stating that to Yarra Bend National Park. It is I will raise the matter on another true that the Government contributes occasion. in some way to the upkeep of this I also wish to mention item No. 68 park, but the contribution is not of the schedule which relates to the nearly adequate to enable the allocation of £60,000 for road works trustees to make provision for the and other expenditure in connexion facilities that the park should pro with the Yarra Boulevard. Everyone vide. The trustees are at their wits knows the history of how, during the end. The Chief Secretary and I have depression, The boulevard was con inspected various sections of the structed by cheap labour, and I sup park. The trustees have received pose it served a useful purpose at quotations from the Public Works that time. This roadway has to be Department ranging from £10,000 to maintained and kept in first-class £15,000 to macadamize parking areas order, and I think this is being done. and to extend roads, but this work J am wondering whether some of this is out of the question when funds amount of £60,000 could be used have to be provided from the re on roadways within the Yarra Bend sources which are available to the National Park. trustees. The Chief Secretary and I are The Yarra Bend National Park can trustees of this particular park, and be deemed to be a tourist attraction, the honorable gentleman is aware of because most visitors to Melbourne the problems associated with certain who want to see the scenic attrac roads within the park. Three muni tions are taken to Yarra Bend cipalities in the district contribute to National Park, and then perhaps to the cost of construction and main Albert Park, as my colleague, the tenance of roads in the park. The honorable member for Albert Park Yarra Boulevard circles the Yarra points out. If this is so, the Tourist Bend National Park, and considera Development Authority could well tion should be given to allocating por afford to make a material contribu tion of the £60,000 for expenditure tion towards the maintenance of within the park itself. The trustees Yarra Bend National Park. I make of the park are concerned about the that suggestion in good faith, and high cost of maintenance of roads. trust that when the Chief Secretary As I have said, the councils con reads my remarks in Hansard he will cerned have been considerate in the support them. assistance which they have rendered. In view of the fact that I did not The Northcote City Council and its have a great deal of success in rela engineer have assisted in many ways to help solve some of the problems in tion to item No. 1 of the schedule, I relation to the Yarra Bend National shall conclude by referring to the Park. Without assistance, the trus question of Kings Bridge, which was tees cannot provide facilities which raised by the Leader of the Opposi I am sure the Chief Secretary, the tion. My Leader pointed out force Government and others concerned fully some of the anomalies which would like the park to provide. existed throughout the contracts and Public Works Loan [5 NOVEMBER, 1964.] .Application Bill. 1243 the apportionment of costs for the Commonwealth-State financial ar repairs to the bridge. The Opposi rangements, the State of Victoria can tion suggests that a good deal of afford to meet expenditure of this looseness has been evident, first, in magnitude. I shall not develop that the handling of the contract for thought any further at this juncture repairs, and, secondly, in the negotia because the Committee is now deal tions that have taken place between ing with individual items. the parties concerned and the repre I shall speak to item No. 1 on the sentatives of the Government. The subject of education, for which an fact that amounts of almost £500,000 amount of £15,000,000 has been have been decided upon and dis applied. During its term of office, this cussed without anything in writing Government has spent £96,000,000 or in the form of a contract reflects from loan funds on education. I shall gravely on the attitude and the instance the development, within my business management of this Govern own electorate, of schools which I ment. consider to be a record. During the If this is the way in which repairs past four years, work on eleven new to the bridge are handled, without schools has been undertaken. Some anyone accepting final responsibility, have been completed, and others one can only conclude that, even are in the course of construction. when the repairs are completed, the As I wish this achievement to be re problem of Kings Bridge will still not corded in Hansard, these schools are be solved. Nevertheless, the Govern the Mooroolbark Technical School, ment will have to accept responsi Ruskin Park Primary School, Croy bility not only for the present repairs don West Primary School, Boronia to the bridge but also for any repairs West Primary School, Mountain Gate that may be necessary in the Primary School, Talaskia-road Pri future. Members of the Opposition mary School, Upper Fern Tree Gully, are not satisfied that the Govern Upwey South Primary School, Mon ment's attitude in apportioning the bulk High School, Johnson Park cost of the repairs will meet the Primary School, and in the adjoining requirements of the contractor or electorate serving many students are of the people of Victoria. The the Studfield Primary School and the whole question of Kings Bridge Bayswater High School. should be examined. The only satis Some years ago, the Education De factory way to do this is to act on partment seemed a little slow in its the suggestion of the Leader of the planning and in the surveys required Opposition and withdraw item No. 49 to anticipate the educational needs from the schedule so that the Govern of these growing outer areas. In re ment can examine the position. The cent years, particularly in the eastern Opposition has already made its suburbs of Melbourne, the planning examination, and the Country Party has changed for the better. A record should make a similar investigation. of eleven new schools in one district When the facts are made public, I in four years has never before been am sure that some other action will accomplished in the history of Vic be deemed to be necessary to satisfy toria. I do not intend to allow the the people of Victoria. newly appointed Assistant Minister of Education to sit back on the laurels Mr. BORTHWICK (Scoresby). of the Minister who was formerly The schedule to this Bill contains 79 responsible for this work. I direct his items involving a total sum of pleasant countenance to the fact that £45, 109, 750 to be issued and applied earlier this year it was stated that a from the Loan Fund for public works. new primary school would be erected This expenditure demonstrates the in Pembroke-road, Mooroolbark, in great cost of development that the time for the beginning of the new State is facing. This leads one to school year in February. As yet, the wonder how long, under the present school has not been tendered for. 1244 Public Works Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill.

As the Assistant Minister of Educa to travel many miles to obtain tech tion knows, at Mooroolbark a number nical education. From the stand of portable class-rooms will require point of availability of transport to be erected on a site not convenient facilities, the ideal place for the estab for them. I suggest that the honor lishment of a girls' technical school able gentleman, who is responsible within that district would be Fern for the erection of primary schools, Tree Gully, where a boys' technical should look into this aspect in his school is already located. usual manner, and expedite the build ing programme. The twelfth new I now relate my remarks to item school in my electorate is urgently No. 10, concerning the Police needed. Department, for which an amount of £700,000 has been applied. I was Although the Education Depart pleased to note that the Minister of ment acts wisely in the acquisition of Public Works referred to the enlarge new sites in these rapidly growing ment of the Fern Tree Gully police outer areas, more detailed analysis station. Tenders have already been of changing conditions should be called for this work, and from my made. I particularly instance the observation of the plans, it is pro areas of Croydon and Fern Tree posed that the station will accommo Gully. I understand that the Estates date 24 policemen. One of the great Branch of the Education Department difficulties in the provision of police is currently investigating a proposal protection in these areas is the de to purchase a site for a high school mand for a police station for every in Dorset-road, Fern Tree Gully. small community. As a community, Plans have been prepared, and I hope we must to some degree change our that work will be commenced next thinking. Is it possible to give ade year. A subsequent time will be too quate police service in any district late. Three years ago the Education with a series of small two or three Department analysed the education man stations? A perfect example of requirements of the Croydon area at what can be achieved by the estab primary school level and, as a result lishment of a larger central adminis of this survey, two new primary tration is the police system which schools were built within a period of operates at Geelong. Honorable mem twelve months. A similar survey bers who have travelled to Geelong should be made at secondary school have doubtless been impressed by the level. The Department has acquired number of police officers who can be another school site in Cutts-avenue seen patrolling the roads in that -which is just over the border, in the electorate of the honorable mem district. ber for Ringwood-where it is ex Mr. DIVERs.-You will agree that pected that another high school will the Police Department is still short be erected within twelve months. staffed? Unless a survey of educational re Quirements is made at secondary Mr. BORTHWICK.-! would be school level, this area will be in the happy if the Police Department would same position with secondary schools establish two large central stations as it was with primary schools some sufficiently manned to give a 24-hour years ago. service, one at Fern Tree Gully and the other at. Croydon. I direct the attention of the Assis Mr. WILKES.-You have no chance; tant Minister of Education to the lack there are not enough police. of technical school facilities for girls within my electorate. The nearest Mr. BORTHWICK.-! have an ex technical school for girls is located cellent chance, because the first at Ringwood. Girls living through police station has already been ten out the Dandenong Ranges area have dered for. Mr. Borthwick. Public Work,s Loan [5 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Applica/,ion JJiU.

Mr. WILKES.--How will it be A type of partial construction pf staffed? roads was enforced, hut supdivider$ Mr. BORTHWICK.-The proposal wer.e not required to provide drain is to have a large central police age. As a result, a great p,roblem is station at Fern Tree Gully. I am building up in the ·form of health hoping that the smaller stations in hazards created by the lack of drain· the surrounding area, such as Bays .. age systems. The Local Government water, Boronia, Belgrave and Olinda, Department is constantly being asked will be connected by land-line, as is for subsidies for assistance in carry the case with districts around Gee ing out this work. Consequently, long. At present, these small there is a delay of two or three years stations cannot provide a 24-hour in the granting .of subsidies,, and I service. Under the new arrangement, feel that some order of priority when there are no police on duty should be established, other than .on at the small stations, the public will a basis relating to date .of applica have access to a telephone there and tion. I consider that it should :have be able immediately to contact the some relationship to health r.equire· .sergeant at the central station, who m.ents. I ,urge the Assistant Minister controls the divisional wagons and of Education to direct the attention mobile patrols, and who will be able of his colleague in another place, the to despatch police to any section of Minister for Local Government, to his territory at a .moment's notice. I my point. At this juncture, I do not support this proposal in my area., suggest that money should be taken .even if it means that some of the from any .other item in the schedule ,smaller towns currently seeking one for this purpose. I know .that all or two-maa police stations will .be Df the jtems are impor.tant and that delayed in obta-iniog them. I believe loan funds are limited. However, I this is the only means whereby a am .sure that many ,of the municipali 24..:hour service can be provided. I ties :which are well placed in the commend Assistant Commissioner priority list at present do not ,require Jackson for his thinking on this assistance as urgently as do some matter, and the Chief Secretary for ,of the ,other areas. the encou,ragement he bas given Mr. The second largest sum of money Jackson. to be · issued and applied under the Item No. 58 relates to payments ·schedule, £7,-500,000, is allocated to municipalities and other bodies in under item No. 160 for i;>ayments to .respect of the eost of drainage .and institutions and societies registered other works, and payments to the ·under the Hospitals aad .Charities Act. Municipalities Assistance Fund. This As one who is on the board of .i~ another problem with which the management of a hospital and who is growing ·electorates are faced, a particularly interested in hospital problem which cannot be sheeted construction, I think tbis is ·an item home to the State Government but in respect of which we may not be -in respect .of which it has been asked .receiving full value for .our money . .to assist the municipalities. I know I am alarmed at the present trend that in 1958, when power was con ferred on municipalities to -enforce whereby the architects engaged by full street .construction, the Fem Tree boards of management of hospitals- Gully council refused to use the 1 am speaking not of Government power and consequently got itself .architects, but of private consultants into a lot of difficulty. During this --appear to be mterested more in period, with the ·gr.eat subdivisions .building -monuments to themselve~ that have taken place without than Jn prov;i

1963-64. In 1951-52 the sum allo year is £60,000, the highest total on cated was £28,000, and by 1963-64 record, but still falling far short of the allocation had reached £55,000. requirements. The Government is Sir John went on to say- faced with a difficulty which the Op Taking into consideration increases in position sympathetically realizes. To book prices and increased binding costs, make the State Library worthy of the purchasing power of the State Library Victoria, to enable it to recover its pubhcations and binding vote declined steadily during the decade 1951/52- supremacy in the public library field 1960/61. The rise of expenditure in of Australia and its acknowledged 1961/62-1963/64 has reversed this trend high place among the world's greatest but has not permitted any significant in crease in the rate of acquisition of library public libraries, considerably in materials. The modest increase in funds creased funds will be necessary. has not permitted any concerted action to be The purpose of its existence, the taken in checking the physical deterioration of State Library coilectfons. provision of ample and suitable read ing material, is not being met in these This is an important comment- days of soaring costs. The position The State Library Trustees point out that is disturbing, and calls for urgent since the administrative separation of the State Library and the National Gallery in rectification. But to get the funds 1944, the State Library has not been able there's the rub. There is not sufficient to draw upon the magnificent Felton bequest money to go round, but let all honor to purchase items for the Library. The able members, and not only the Library is dependent almost entirely on its Treasury grant for finance. library trustees, hope they will be adequately forthcoming. Now comes something which is familiar to all of us, and which has Mr. SUGGETT (Moorabbin).~This been stated by Minister after Minister is a Bill to authorize the expenditure in debate after debate in this House. of loan funds amounting to Sir John stated- £45,000,000. As this is a large sum of Competition for funds allocated bY. the money, I think it behoves all of us, as State Treasury is keen and the State Library previous speakers have said, to try to trustees have not succeeded in convincing assist the Government in getting the the Treasury of the necessity for greatly in best value for the money expended. creased expenditure on the State Library. Nor has the State Library made sufficient I wish to deal only with item No. impact on the community it serves for the 1 relating, amongst <;>ther things, community to exert pressure to increase to the construction of schools, the Library's financial allocation. and I have a suggestion to make, Perhaps that passage might be open which could save the Govern to challenge. I think the trustees ment £3 per square or 1 per have convinced the Treasury of the cent. of the total cost of school necessity for higher grants, but the buildings. In other words, on a build Treasury has simply not been able to ing programme estimated to cost meet the demand. I put that to the £8,000,000 it would involve a saving credit of this Government and its pre to the State of £80,000. decessor Governments. Sir John This is not just a suggestion being continues- made by me as a layman; it is backed Increased expenditure is necessary if the by a master builder, one very experi State Library is to carry out its functions enced in erecting schools. Specifica effectively . . . tions for school buildings call for Having in mind that many of the book collections are of very considerable mone mullions of dressed clear oregon tary value, there appears to be no reason measuring 4 in. by 4 in. I am not why special loan monies should not be very well versed in technical terms made available annually for the purchase of special publications to fill the gaps in but, I believe mullions are uprights existing collections or to provide the which support beams. Oregon is an material for subjects hitherto not covered. imported timber, and so overseas The expenditure on book and publi funds come into the picture. To ob cation. stocks last year was £55,000. tain mullions measuring 4 in. by 4 in •. The approved outlay for the current dressed requires the use of 4! in. x 1248 .Public~ Works Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Applicatwn Bill.

4~ in. undressed timber. A hundred of 4! in. x 4! in. of clear oregon. feet of 4! in. by 4! in. timber totals There is a total difference of over 168f super.. feet and, at a price of £12 per 100 lineal feet as against the 350s. per 100 super. feet, its cost is specifications which are now re £2"9 !Os. 7!d. If the specifications quired. required timber of a slightly smaller size, a great saving in costs could be The specification_s further provide effected.· I understand from experi that for the uprights which do not enced builders that timber 3! in. x 3! carry weight, finished dressed dear in. is just as strong as timber 4 in. x oregon 4 in. x 3 in. shall be· used. In 4 in. order to meet the specifications, it is necessary to use timber 4! in. x 3! in. Mr. B. J. EVANS.-lt could not be x 100, representing 13-It super. feet just as strong. which, at 350s. per l 00 lineal feet, Mr. SUGGETT.-I do not think would cost £22 l 9s. 4!d. there is any appreciable difference between the two sizes. Experienced Mr. WILKEs.-Perhaps we should builders have informed me that the report progress to enable honorable smaller sized timber is just as strong members to study your suggestion. as the larger. If the specifications Mr. SUGGETT.-1 am pleased to called for 100 lineal feet of 3f in. x hear that the honorable member for 3! in. finished dressed clear oregon, Northcote is interested In my re this could be obtained from. 100 lineal marks. I assure the· honorable mem feet of 4 in. x 4 in. material, which ber that I have already referred this equals 133! super. feet. At a rate of matter to the Chief Architect of the 350s .. per 100 super. feet, the cost of Public Works Department, Mr. this timber would be £23 6s. Bd. In Bottoms. other words, on the measurements Mr. WILKES.-lt is no wonder you which I have quoted, a saving of £6 are dissatisfied. ·per 100 lineal feet could be effected by using 3! in. x 31 in. finished size Mr. SUGGETT.-! did not say that as compared with 4 in. x 4 in. I was dissatisfied. I am simply mak finished size which latter would have ing a suggestion to the Government. to be cut from 4! in. x 4! in. material. I have already referred the matter to Of course, " merch " oregon is the Chief Architect of the Public stronger than clear oregon, but it has Works Department who is an experi some knots in it. If a tree is dead enced and efficient officer. before it is cut down, the knots Mr. RossITER.---And a devoted one, sometimes fall out; otherwise, they too. must be bored out. I understand that the knots are bored out and, Mr. SUGGE'IT.-I agree. He is when the holes have been filled and examining my suggestion, which is painted over, the defects are difficult not meant to be funny and would, if to detect. · Honorable members who adopted, save big money. It is easy ·have· sp1it wood on a wood heap will for the same specifications to be used know that knotted wood is stronger year after year without an examina than clear wood and, for this reason, tion being made of them. ., rnerch " oregon would be just as Mr. B. J. EVANS.~Do we not pay strong as clear oregon. By adopting these men high salaries to ensure tny suggestion, a considerable saving that the specifications are satisfac c·ould be effected. " Merch " oregon factory? costs only 260s. per 100 super. feet as against 350s. for clear oregon. In Mr. SUGGETI.--Certainly, they other words, the use of "merch" are paid high salaries and, in many Oregon wouJd reduce the cost of I 00 cases, they deserve them. 1inea1 feet to £17 6s. 8d. as against Mr. B. J. EVANS.-Surely, it is their £29 1Os. 7 !d. for the same quantity job to look into these matters. · Public Works Loa'f1t. [5 NOVEMBER~ '.1964.] Appli,cation Bill. 1249

Mr. SUGGETT.-There is a ten .saving of more than £55. By using dency for these things to go on year "' merch " oregon, the cost for the after year and for people not to think same quantity of timber would be about them. still further reduced to £156, rep Mr. B. J. EVANS.-We are paying resenting a saving in this timber them to think alone of £109. So far as other lengths of timber . Mr. SUGGETI.~I am trying to are concerned in an eight class-room .think for them. school, 1,800 super. feet of 4 in. The ACTING CHAIRMAN (Mr. x 3 in. clear oregon at £22 19s. 4!d. Wheeler).-Order!· I invite the honor would cost £413 8s. lOd. How able member for Moorabbin to ignore ever, by using 3! in. x 2! in. clear interjections. oregon, the same quantity, namely Mr. SUGGETT.-! should like to 1,800 super. feet, at £17 would cost proceed with my theory and give the £.306. By using " merch " oregon, Committee an idea of the saving in the cost would be reduced to costs which could be effected in the £234. In other words, the total construction of a school consisting of saving on an eight class-room school eight class-rooms. would be £289 4s. Id. which is about £3 per square, or 1 per cent. of the Mr. ScfIINTLER.-Would not the total cost of the school. This saving specifications adhere to basic stan may not appear to be very much, dards? but when considering the large num Mr. SUGGETT.-Sometimes the ber of school buildings that are being basic standards which are required in constructed by the Government, the one decade are found not to be en adoption of my suggestion, if it were tirely necessary in another decade. feasible, would represent a consider Although timber to a certain speci able saving. My suggestion is fication has been required for some backed by the opinion of a master years, it could well be found that builder who is experienced in the timbet of a smaller size would be construction of school buildings, and just as effective, and that is the it is well worth close examination by aspect which I have asked the Chief the Government. On an £8,000,000 .Architect to examine. There may be building programme alone, the saving no value in my suggestion, but it is would be sufficient to construct one the task of every honorable member extra school. Surely, in those cir to' suggest means whereby the cumstances, the suggestion is worthy Government can obtain the best value of close consideration. for money and to make money go as Mr. MuTTON.-Before your sugges far as possible. tion could be adopted, it would be Mr. HoLDEN.-ls oregon used in necessary to amend the Uniform all school buildings? Building Regulations. Mr. SUGGETT.-Yes, the uprights Mr. SUGGETT.-! do not think the must be oregon. Hardwood timber Public Works Department operates is cheaper than oregon, but is not under the Uniform Building Regu obtainable in the requisite lengths. lations, although I know that the Hardwood is also stronger than Department tries to conform to them oregon. For a school of eight class and to council regulations. I rooms 900 super. feet of 4 in. x have related my suggestion only to 4 in. clear oregon would be needed school buildings, but I think that and at £29 10s. 7!d. per 100 super. oregon is used also in other feet, the total cost would be £265 15s. buildings which come under this 3d. If the size of the timber was re Bill. I consider that the adoption duced to 3! in. x 3! in., the of my suggestion would supply a timber at ·£23 6s. Sd. per 100 super. means by which the Government feet would cost £210; representing a could economize without sacrificing 1250 Public Worlcs Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill. efficiency in its building programme. of tenders for the Flemington High I hope the Government will give this School. I then received the informa matter serious consideration and will tion that the tenders for the high try to get more value for the money school would be invited some time being spent. in September. Last week, I asked Mr. HOLLAND (Flemington) . another question in relation to this I, too, propose to relate my remarks matter, and the information I re to several items, but first I wish to ceived was that the tenders would be raise a matter which is relevant to called for before the end of this item No. 1. I was interested in the month. So far as I know, tenders discourse of the honorable member have not yet been called for, but I am hopeful that some of the money for Moorabbin, but I want to dis being provided in this Bill will be cuss not the technicalities of school used to construct the high school at buildings but the practicality of get Flemington. I am particularly keen ting schools built in my electorate and that tenders should be invited at an to ascertain whether it is possible to early date because it has been stated receive co-operation from the Educa by the Minister, both in correspon tion Department and courtesy in the dence and in answer to questions, answering of correspondence. that even if the tenders are called Some four years ago, the Mel for at the earliest possible date the bourne City Council, in co-operation best part of twelve months will with the Housing Commission, under elapse before the building is com took large scale slum reclamation pleted. I hope the · school will be schemes in the City of Melbourne, completed and ready for occupation three of which were in my electorate. by the end of next year. Because of the big increase in the I also referred, in correspondence child population which was evidenced with the Education Department, to when these projects were completed, the need for alterations, extensions I alerted the Education Department and improvements to the Flemington at that time to the necessity for the Girls' School. The honorable mem provision of secondary school facili ber for Moonee Ponds and I are ties in Flemington for these children. members of the council for that After considerable correspondence, in school. Two deputations were held which the Department recognized in connexion with this matter and that some rebuilding would be neces investigations were made by depart sary, it was decided that a high mental officers. Finally, the Assis school would be built in the Flem tant Minister of Education inspected ington area. By correspondence, I this site. also tried to ascertain when the Mr. WILKES.-He is fairly active. school would be built, but I was not Mr. HOLLAND.-He may be fairly successful. Therefore, I asked a active, and I appreciate that he can series of questions in the House and not move mountains. I do not yet received answers to the effect that, know the results of his investiga provided no unforeseen difficulties tions, but I want to point out that were experienced on the site, the when a member of this Parliament Public Works Department hoped to tries to co-operate with the Depart be able to invite tenders early in ment he experiences difficulty in get 1964. ting courtesy and even in having his Then the Education Department letters answered. I bring to the proceeded to accommodate children notice of the Assistant Minister of who needed secondary school edu Education the difference between the cation in temporary facilities in the manner in which he and the Minister Errol-street State School. Some of Education handle correspondence. time later, I wrote to the Minister Some time in the first week in of Education and asked what was October, I wrote to the Assistant happening in regard to the calling Minister concerning certain problems Public Works Loan [5 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1251 associated with the State school at These are: Ascot Vale, and I received the normal (i) Debney's Estate (604 flats) courtesy of a reply by 20th October. (ii) Holland's Estate (280 flats) Admittedly, the Assistant Minister (iii) Boundary Road Estate (460 flats). did not say that all my requests for Statistics also show that this will bring improvements at the school would 2,200 children into this area, many of whom be carried out, but he did pay me the will be of secondary school age. normal courtesy due to a member of The Advisory Council is anxious that som~ action. be taken as expediently as Parliament who is seeking to do his possible to improve the present conditions duty by his constituents. and have adequate up-to-date accommoda A different situation applies in tion for the future. regard to the Minister of Education. A footnote to the letter reads, " As I have written to the honorable yet there has been no acknowledge gentleman on numerous occasions ment of this letter." On receiving and have not received the courtesy that letter I wrote to the Minister of of an acknowledgment of my corres:. Education on 6th July, 1964, stat pondence. I do not know whether ing- other honorable members have had The advisory committee of the Fleming ton Girls' .. School have asked that I bring any experience. Some months later, under notice the urgent necessity for in I do get a letter containing .a creased accommodation at the school due decision relating to the requests I to the changes in population in the area as have made, but I do not think that is outlined in their letter to the Education Department on the 5th March, 1964. The good enough. One such instance re attached extract from their letter sets out lates to the Flemington Girls' School. a variety of reasons why changes at the On 5th March, 1964, the secretary of school are necessary. The population the school council, who is the head changes, of course, are due to the Housing Commission flats already built and the pro mistress, wrote to the Department in posals for the immediate future in the area the following terms: - covered by this school. Details of these RE THE URGENT NEED FOR EXTRA were given to you by me some months ago. ACCOMMODATION. ! wou1d. also add f:bat last year, following an Ref. Department's last letter on matter mspection by var10us senior officials of your dated 13th December, 1963. Department, I gathered the impression they were recommending a new wing be built Dear Sir, and proposed that this would be listed for The Advisory Council, at its meeting on the new financial year which has just com the 20th February, 1964, asked me to write menced. I w~uld be pleased, therefore, if again regarding the proposed addition to you could give me any information in the schoo.l. regard to the changes which are obviously needed at this school. As the enrolment has increased this year the present accommodation is taxed to the Although I wrote that letter four utmost and much teaching is being done months ago, I have not yet received under very difficult conditions. The accom an acknowledgment, and so far as modation for practical classes in cookery and needlework is very inadequate, also I know nothing has been done at the the number of larger general class-rooms. school, nor is anything contemplated. A number of the special subjects e.g., I have never believed that the elec science, commercial, &c. must be taken torate I represent should be singled outside the subject rooms. out for preferential treatment but I The Council feels certain that this in crease in numbers will continue steadily for do consider that if I and' other some years to come because of the members co-operate with the Min various Housing Commission schemes being ister in an endeavour to make his job developed in this area. The first scheme on as easy as possible, common courtesy Debney's Estate will be completed this year, and we already have a number of the girls demands that he should reply to our from there attending the school. Many communications. It is most unfor more now in the primary schools will be tunate that this attitude has crept coming on to secondary schools in the into the Education Department. It next few years. comes in for a tremendous amount In addition to this scheme, three more Housing Commission schemes are to be of criticism, and this sort of treat commenced this year and completed within ment by members of Parliament only the next three years. makes matters worse. 1252 PubJU;. Works Loan :[ASSEMBLY] Appli£ation Bill.·

I ask the Assistant Minister of the Assistant Minister of Education Education, who is :at the table, to see to.ok a different tack altogether. He if he can .arrange for a reply to be wrote to me stating- sent to the letter I wrote on the 6th ! refer to your personal representations July, and to try to inculcate into the on behalf of the Ascot Vale school com Minister of Education some of the mittee regarding various matters :requiring courteous treatment that he himself attention at the school. gives to members of Parliament and Recent discussions have takel) .plaee be tween officers .of the Public Works Depart other people who write to him. ment and this Department regarding vario\LS Members of Parliament should not be works to be undertaken at the school, and treated in this way when they are it is .expected tb.at a scheme will be sub trying to do their duty to the .con mitted .to .this Department ~ortly. The matters which you have mentioned will then stituents they represent. be given further consideration. ' Mr. RossITER.-1 guarantee your That is the sort o.f answer I .should case is not quite factual. have received from the Minister of Mr. HOLLAND.-That is rather a Education. The Assistant Minister of remarkable statement. .. Education simply said that the matter was und.er consideration, and that is Mr. Ross1TER.-I shall be prepared the normal ~ype of answer one ex to investigate the .matter.. pects to receiv.e. I have stated what Mr. HOLLAND.-1 hope tbe As has happened., and it is now up to the sistant Minister of Education does s@, Assistant Minister of Education to and that he will be pr.e;pared ;to take action... This does not ever occur apologize for the remark he has 3ust when he is concerned but it o.ccurs made. I have a carbon copy of the when other Ministers are concerned. ietter I wrote to the Minister of Educatian. I .am not in the habit f>f Mr. Ro.ssr'ifER.-This is where you making in this Chamber statements are on unsure ground. that I cannot substantiate. I have Mr. HOLLAND.. -The 'honorable no hesitation in saying that what .I member for Northcote stated .that he have read to the House is .absolutely wrote to the Minister of Education a cone.ct. month ago and has not yet r.eceived Mr. RossITER.-As far as you know. a r.epJyA Mr. HOLLAND.-! .d0 not know Jtem No. 71 af the schedule pro the meaning :of ,that remai"k. I vides for the sum of £l80,000 to 'be assume that if any action had .been paid to the Melbourne City Council taken by the Minister I would have towards the construction of a stock been notified. All I am saying is .bridge .over Racecourse-road, New.. :that, as a matter of ;general principle, market. This is one of the few items letters written by members of Parlia.. that I regret to see :jn .the s_chedu:le. ment to Ministers of the Crown it completes the .last sorry chapter iri should '.be ·answered. The Assistant the retention of the sale-yards in their Minister of Education recognizes this ipr.esent loeation. I regret :that .they principle beca~lllse l know he practises are to be retained in my electorate~ it. .not so much .because they happen to Mr. Ross'ITER-For nine years the ,be in my area but .bec.ause I believe Minister of Education has religiously they are a bl0t ;On the .dty ~and that r.epHed to correspondence. the IJ:and .is ·too valu~ble -to be used for . 'Mr. HOLLAND.-All J can say is its present .Purpose. Furthermore, 1 that the Assistant Minister af Educa ~ontend that -~ they had t0 be 1re tion Bhould investigate the truth of tained .there was no -necessity for that statement. Usually, the Minister public funds to the tune of £180;000 of Education does not immediately to be US,ed for rthis · typ.e of ·COnstruc .acknowledge letters sent to him, and ftion, when .it ;could have been ·r.eadily when he does reply ,often it is months financed by the people who use th~ later. In the instance I have cited, sale-yards. The money could have Public Works Loan [5 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1253 been used to much better advantage sure that this committee has plans for in satisfying some of the many ob great improvements, and, although vious deficiencies in State facilities. we have been proud of the camp in Item No. 78 is "Grant to the Lord the past, I believe we will all be Mayor's Children's Camp Fund to pleased with what will happen there wards cost of acquisition of camp in the future. site at Portsea, £10,000." This is a Mr. B. J. EVANS (Gippsland East). worth-while contribution, and I con -I regret that my remarks on this gratulate the Government upon mak measure in relation to item No. 1 of ing the grant. The land on which the the schedule must be along similar camp at Portsea is situated was pre lines to those of the honorable viously used as a Commonwealth member for Flemington so far as the quarantine station. The site became construction of school class-rooms is available for some £18,000 and the concerned. I wish to direct the Melbourne City Council decided to attention of the Minister of Education seek the co-operation of the Govern to the situation which exists at ment in purchasing it. Once it be Swift's Creek Higher Elementary came the property of the Lord School. Swift's Creek is situated in Mayor's Children's Camp Committee, the Shire of Omeo, some 60 miles many improvements could be made north of Bairnsdale. I have in my on the land. The Melbourne City possession a letter dated 30th Council had no hesitation in allocat October, 1962, from the chairman of ing £8,000 when it was learnt that the the school committee in which he Government had been generous makes a strong appeal for some enough to provide some £10,000 action to be taken in what was, even towards the purchase of this land. at that stage, a protracted negotiation for the purchase of additional land on The Lord Mayor's camp . was which to build more class-rooms. At established in 1944, primarily fo.r that time the first, second and third boys and girls from the Mallee. The forms were accommodated at Swift's first camp was held at Frankston and Creek, but the committee was finding approximately 250 children attended. difficulty in retaining a number of The present season of ten camps will third form pupils because, naturally, cater for some 3,000 children. The the parents of the children felt that children not only enjoy a good holi it was in the children's interest to day but whilst in the camp they are send them to boarding schools or given a complete physical check up accommodation in Bairnsdale so that by doctors, dentists, eye specialists, they could attend secondary schools ear specialists and others who give with better facilities. voluntary service to ensure that any physical defects in the children are The letter from the chairman of the discovered and that some action is school committee is in these terms- taken in regard to them. Each year, My committee feels that the decision regarding our extensions is far too slow and the Melbourne City Council provides seeks your support and that of the party to a subsidy towards the cost of running see that some definite action or decision is the Lord Mayor's camp, and also made at an early date so as we can get on gives a tremendous amount of with the job of increased secondary facilities executive assistance in the operating for our area. of the camp. Many voluntary com My job as chairman of the school com mittee is a very difficult one under these mittees, particularly in country areas, conditions. also assist. The head teacher sent for me last As a result of the grant of £10,000 week and we spent four hours checking from the Government and £8,000 grades, rooms, numbers, &c., and I can from the Melbourne City Council, the assure you that the matter is very urgent. Parents are just not going to have their camp site is now the permanent children billeted all over the town. I fully property of the Lord Mayor's expect to lose 50 per cent. of our Form III. Children's Camp Committee. I am pupils next year. I, or we at least, do not Session 1964.-53 1254 Public Works Loan [ASSEMBLY.] Application Bill. get any pleasure from bashing you. You, they were going to be provided with I am sure, get enough of that. I consider I am doing more than I can afford for the better secondary school facilities. school and consider that I should hear from Although I appreciate the position them personally or through you as to just outlined by the honorable member what is the position across the road. for Scoresby, who directed attention He was ref erring there to the area to the large number of school-rooms which was at that time under being erected in his electorate where negotiation. the population is increasing rapidly, I think some consideration should It would give me an added incentive to carry on. also be given to the problems in iso lated areas where there is no alter The letter continues to quite an ex native school for pupils. I should tent in the same vein. Therefore, it like the Minister to look into this was with some considerable pleasure problem with sympathy, because I that I was able to forward to that believe the people of Swift's Creek gentleman a letter dated 23rd Janu deserve some spe~ial consideration~ ary, 1964, from the Minister of Edu particularly in view of the long cation which stated, inter alia - period they have been waiting for The Public Works Department hopes to negotiations to be completed. be able to invite tenders for this work either late in this financial year or early I now wish to refer to item No. 18, in next financial year. relating to public offices and resi When several months of this financial dences. Several years ago, it was year had gone by and I had no word made known that the Government of this tender being called, I placed proposed to construct a new public several questions on the Notice Paper office block in Bairnsdale-a building on Tuesday, 20th October, this year which is long overdue. The land has as follows: - been duly acquired, plans have been 1. On what date the Education Depart approved, and everything is just ment approved the construction of a build about ready for construction to com ing at Swift's Creek Higher Elementary mence. It is a little unfortunate that School to house students in woodwork, thought was not given to the ade science, and general studies? quate planning of these offices and. 2. Whether, in view of the Department's advice to him (the member for Gippsland that certain public officers are not t<> East) that tenders were to be called either be given accommodation in the build late last financial year or early this year, ing. The Fisheries and Wildlife officer tenders have been called; if not, what is the occupies a residence in the main anticipated date of calling for tenders and what has been the reason for the delay? street of Bairnsdale, and attached to that residence is a small office. It Without going into full details of his is not a satisfactory state of affairs reply, the Minister advised me that that when this officer, whose district the construction of a building was covers a wide area, is away from first approved in May, 1962, subject Bairnsdale on duty, he has to rely to the acquisition of additional land, on his wife to carry out his local and to the building of other works duties, such as the issuing of licences with higher priority. The first pro and the answering of the . telephone. viso mentioned was duly complied In fact, his wife must do a consider with. In answer to my second ques able amount of his work when he is tion the Minister stated, inter alia- absent in other parts of his district. Tenders have not been called, and I am Surely it is reasonable to provide unable to give an anticipated date for calling them. The reason is that other facilities in the public offices so that building projects with higher priority have members of the public will know had and remain to be undertaken. where to go, and where inquiries. The Minister's reply came as a great can be answered by some person disappointment not only to me but other than the wife of the officer particularly to the people of Swift's concerned. This is no reflection on Creek who hoped that at long last the ability of the wives of these Mr. B. J. Evans. • Public Works Loan [5 NOVEMBER, 1964.] Application Bill. 1255

officers, but it is not right that they I now relate my .remarks to item should have to do this work. Honor 29 concerning the dredging and blast able members realize how much work ing operations for the improvement of our wives have to do when we are channels for the safe navigation of in attendance in this Chamber and shipping, repairs and additions· to, when callers come to our homes. and stores for dredgers and associated Accommodation for the district in plant and expenditure incidental to spector of schools should be provided these purposes, for which an amount in the building to which I have re of £210,000 has been applied. Honor f erred. He, too, is expected to do able members may have guessed the his office work in his own home, subject to which I shall refer, namely, where he must meet callers and the sand bar at Lakes Entrance. answer the telephone. I see no Mr. ROSSITER.-Not Corsair Rock? reason why a small office should not be made available for this purpose. Mr. B. J. EVANS.-No. A model In view of the fact that the Federal study is being made of the sand bar member of Parliament for the dis problem, but I am apprehensive of trict is to be given an office in the the consequences that could possibly new Commonwealth building to be arise between now and the time when erected at Sale, the State Govern the model studies are completed. From that model study, the necessary ment should con~der the provision of an office for the local State mem works are designed, and I hope they ber of Parliament, where he could will be carried out. I shall read a meet his constituents. Most electors letter from Mr. R. J. McGrath, the dn the metropolitan area have ready manager of the Victorian Fishermen's access at Parliament House to their Co-operative Society Limited, dated . focal member of Parliament, but, in 27th October, 1964, which states- my own case, some people have had We wish to pass on to you a report of a to travel 170 miles to see me. If I am very near tragedy on the Bar yesterday. not available when they arrive, it is Ted Jackel, part owner and crew member a great disappointment to them. of the Joan Marie Star, was washed over board from the boat when she hit the Bar Often I have had discussions with and broached. constituents in my private motor car The boat arrived at the Bar at approxi in the main street at Bairnsdale be mately 5 p.m., lined up the normal leads and cause no other accommodation has proceeded to go across. A fair sea was been available. I directed the atten running at the time with about two hours of tion of the Premier to this matter, ebb tide to go. but unfortunately he felt it was ask As the vessel reached the Bar, she touched bottom, and a sea from behind caused her to ing a little too much. A point could broach, a following sea, then hit and lay be stretched to meet the require her over taking nine boxes of fish, one trawl ments of people living in the more net, half a coil of rope and Ted Jackel. isolated areas. There is no neces Owing to the very dangerous conditions sity for an elaborate office, and I in the area around the vessel it was impos would not require it on a full-time sible for Ted to get back aboard, despite the efforts of the other two men on the basis. A room 10 ft. x 12 ft. boat, Tom Greer and Fred Waites. equipped with a desk could be made During the time Joan Marie Star was available, and I could co-operate with stuck on the Bar, approximately 15 minutes, the district inspector of schools and Ted was taken seawards by the ebb tide; the Fisheries and Wildlife Department he was picked up after about 20 minutes, in officer in its use. I would need it pos a position 100 yards or more from where he went overboard and outside the Bar. After sibly only for one day a fortnight or re-floating, the skipper crossed the Bar one day a month as a place to meet turned around and steamed out, picked up Ted and once more attacked the Bar, this my constituents. It is for the purpose second effort was uneventful. not of assisting me, but to give my There have been no other incidents re constituents ready access to their ported of recent date, but we will advise of local member of Parliament. any as they come to hand. 1256 Public Works Loan LASSEMBLY.] Application Bill.

Last month Mr. McGrath also in now desire to do so. I ask the formed me that eleven vessels touch Government to consider the possi- ed the bar, and in many cases they 611ity of allocating more of the money sustained damage. I appeal to the received from the Commonwealth by Government to endeavour to do way of the special provision for trans something about this sand bar prob port by road and water-I think the lem, even if it is only of a temporary total amount is about £250,000 a year nature. No doubt, before very long -for the provision of necessary faci there will be another tragedy on the lities around the Gippsland Lakes. bar. Some gentlemen who have had considerable experience with the sand I wish to refer briefly to only two bar problem at Lakes Entrance main other items. The first is No. 62 in tain that if there were some means the schedule, relating to capital of loosening the sand, which appar grants for mentally retarded child ently becomes compacted, this would ren's centres. This is a wonderful allow of some movement of the sand sphere of activity, which deserves all with the tide. the assistance that the Government can give. I appeal to the Govern Mr. ROSSITER.-lt would set up a ment to be a little more generous in scouring process. its treatment of the situation whereby Mr. B. J. EVANS.-That is so. One a centre must have seventeen gentleman suggested that if a set of children attending before it becomes harrows was towed to and fro across eligible to receive Government assis the bar to keep the sand in a loose tance. It seems to me an anomaly condition, that might well be sufficient that, whereas the Education Depart to keep the bar sufficiently deep to ment regards ten as the minimum make it safe for boats. That sugges number of pupils before a school is tion may not be practicable, but it is constructed, a larger attendance is worth trying. It would not cost much, required before a mentally retarded and it might be the means of saving children's centre can attract a human lives. I urge the Government Government grant. After all, these to examine this problem with a view children do not benefit by any of the to finding some temporary means of facilities provided for normal chil effecting improvement to the bar at dren attending school, and in the long Lakes Entrance. run these centres will save the Government a lot of money. They do The next item to which I wish to wonderful work, an important aspect refer is No. 30, relating to construc of which is the relief afforded to tion, replacement, additions and im parents, particularly mothers. I provements to piers, wharves, jetties, think one can derive great satisfac and so on. The provision of piers tion from attending one of these .and jetties around the Gippsland centres and observing how these very Eakes area is becoming a matter of capable and understanding teachers great concern to people interested in manage to train the children, achiev the tourist industry and the owners ing remarkable results. of the many boats which ply the lakes. They are also concerned that As recently as last Saturday week, a wharf at Swan Reach on the Tambo I attended the Maffra Agricultural river, which has been in existence Society's show at which there was an for some 80 years serving a very use exhibition of the work being under ful purpose, is to be removed. This taken at the Kyndalyn training centre seems to be a backward move. in that city. The work done by the Many years ago the Government of children there is astounding. I urge the day was able to provide this any honorable member who has not wharf when boat traffic was of rela seen this work to grasp the oppor tively more economic importance, tunity, if it arises, to visit one of these but I doubt whether more people centres. I assure him that he will be would have used the wharf then than welcomed by the directress or INDEX.

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A. Alpine Developments (Ski Tows) Pty. Ltd. Aborigines-Provision of housing, (qn.) (See "Falls Creek Ski Village.") 1823. Altona Railway Extension Bill-Received Aborigines (Amendment) Bill - Received from Assembly and first reading, 2878; from Assembly and first reading, 3713; second reading, 2953, 3346; Committee, second reading, 3854, 4072; Committee, 3351; remaining stages, 3353. 4086; remaining stages, 4090. Angling. (See " Fisheries and Game Accidents. (See "Road Accidents.") (Reduced Licence Fees) Bill.") Acquisition of Materials Bill - Received Appeal Costs Fund (Amendment) Bill from Assembly and first reading, 1495; Received from Assembly and first second reading, 1646, 2285; Committee, reading, 2837; second reading, 2953, 2288; remaining stages, 2290. 3331; Committee, 3334; remaining stages, 3335. Address-in-Reply. (See cc Governor, His Excellency Major-General Sir Rohan Apprenticeship Commission-Transport for Delacombe, K.C.M.G., K.B.E., C.B., supervisors, 241. Staff, registration of D.S.O., K.St.J.") apprentices, proficiency certificates and travel and living subsidies, ( qn.) 608. Administration and Probate (Small Estates) Bill-Introduction and first reading, Appropriation Bill-Received from Assembly 229; second reading, 232, 307; Com and first reading, 2389; second reading, mittee, 310, 623; remaining stages, 631. 2406, 2552; Committee, 2555; third reading, 2560. Agricultural Colleges Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 623; second Arts and Cultural Centres-Government reading, 765, 960; Committee, 965; subsidies, (qn.) 3422. Provision of remaining stages, 967. land, (qn.) 3422. New Mildura centre, (qn.) 3422. Agricultural Education (Continuation) Bill - Received from Assembly and first Automation-Training of staff, 634. reading, 3609; second reading, 3731; Committee, 3734; remaining stages, B. 3735.

Agriculture, Department of. (See cc Depart Banks. (See cc State Savings Bank.") ment of Agriculture.") Barley-Silo accommodation, (qn.) 1545. Aircraft. (See " Essendon Aerodrome.") Remuneration of agents, (qn.) 1545. Albion Quarries Ltd. (See " Companies Basic Wage-Increase, 1041, 1045, 1052t Act.") 1061, 1063. 5372165. (2) INDEX.

Bendigo Land (Special Grant) Bill-Received Bradbury, Hon. A. K.-continued. from Assembly and first reading, 3344; Estate Agents Bill, 2154, 2156. second reading, 3436, 3636; Com Falls Creek Ski Village-Policy of State mittee and remaining stages, 3637. Electricity Commission regarding ski Betting-Prosecutions for illegal betting, tows, 3322. Committee of manage ( qn.) 4026. (See also " Police Offences ment, 3419. (Betting Information) Bill," "Totaliza Game (Black Swans) Bill, 1270. tor Agency Board" and "Totalizators.") Glenroy to Tullamarine Railway Con Bills- struction Bill, 4360. Lapsed-Glenroy to Tullamarine Railway Health (Offensive Trades) Bill, 2032. Construction Bill. Labour and Industry Point of Order-Use of words " Country (Equal Pay) Bill. Scientology Restric Party are working out some of their tion Bill. crooked bargains ", 4737. Black Swans. (See " Fisheries and Wildlife Public Lands and Works Bill, 2519. Department.") Railway Department-Derailments, 888. Sale of Land Bill, 4174. Board of Land and Works. (See "Public Shell Pipelines Bill, 2521, 2528, 2529, Lands and Works Bill.") 2550, 2551, 2552. Boards and Commissions of Inquiry Social Welfare (Trainees) Bill, 620. Governmen t and Parliamentary respon State Insurance Funds Bill, 312 sibilities, 2849. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis Boats-Registrations with Fisheries and sion-Irrigation charges, 1822. Wildlife Department, Transport Regu Teaching Service (Amendment) Bill, lation Board and Marine Board, (qn.) 3627, 4734. 2401, 2557. (See also "Motor Boating Victorian Inland Meat Authority (Amend Act.") ment) Bill, 3128, 3135, 3138, 3779. Werribee Waterworks District (Aboli Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill-Re tion) Bill, 3638. ceived from Assembly and first read ing, 1956; second reading, 2066, 2360; Committee, 2361; remaining stages, 2363. Breathalyzer-Testing units, (qn.) 1822. Bookmakers. (See "Dog-racing," "Horse Number of tests carried out and results, (qn.) 1822. racing," and "Racing (Amendment) Bill.") Bridges. (See " Country Roads Board " and "Kings Bridge.") Bradbury, Hon. A. K. (North-Eastern Building Surveyors-Examinations, (qn.) Province). 2944. (See also " Cadet Surveyors Agricultural Education (Continuation) Bill.") Bill, 3734. Buses. (See " Melbourne and Metropolitan Altona Railway Extension Bill, 3347, 3352. Tramways Board.") Cancer (Amendment) Bill, 2427. Closer Settlement (Regulations) Bill, Bush Fires. (See" Country Fire Authority.") 499. Bush Fires Relief Committee-Claims for Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 4), 4715. assistance and assistance granted, 133. Death-The Hon. W. P. Mair, (qn.) 2714. Decentralization Advisory Committee Bill, The, 2535. Business of the House-Days and hours of Education Department-Wodonga Tech meeting, 7, 1296, 1548, 1823, 2014, nical School, 4654, 4715. Wangaratta 3095, 3329, 4178, 4406, 4733. Order of West State School, 4716. Wangaratta business, 7, 3095, 3329. New business, High School, 4717. School residence 7, 1904, 3424. Adjournment until day at Yea, 4717. Liaison with Public and hour to be fixed by President, 17, Works Department, 4718. 2563, 4746. Private members' business, Education (School Committees) Bill, 3329. Observance of Standing Ordert 2426. re suspension of sittings, 4737, 4738. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. (3)

Byrne, Hon. Murray (Ballaarat Province). Byrnes, Sir Percy--continued. Administration and Probate (Small Fares, Freights and Hospital Charges Estates) Bill, 626. Effect of increases, 153, 1039. Cancer Institute Board-Discontinuance Farm Produce Merchants and Commis of clinics at Ararat and Stawell, 409. sion Agents Bill, 4165, 4221, 4225. Country Roads Board-Duplication of Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill, Western Highway, 1720. 4055. Education Department-Stawell Tech Home Finance (Amendment) Bill, 3328, nical School, 2014. Lake Goldsmith 3329. school building, 2401. Girls' secondary Hospitals-Increased charges, 153. school building in Hope-street, Ballarat, Land Tax (Rates and Exemptions) Bill, 2401. 2060. Medical (Amendment) Bill, 1833, 1841. Legislative Council-Proposed inquiry Prisons Division-Escapes from Langi into powers, 4700. Kal Kal Training Centre, 408. Librarian-Death of Mr. F. J. Perry, 2709. Residence Area Titles-Commonwealth Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of housing grants, 1718. Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 3454. Social Welfare Branch-Family welfare Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways centre at Ballarat, 1903. Board-Increased fares, 153. Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4678. Mental Health Authority-Care of men tally retarded children, 2556. Motor Car (Amendment) Bill (No. 2), Byrnes, Sir Percy (North-Western Province). 3428. Aborigines (Amendment) Bill, 4083, 4088. Parliamentary Salaries Pensions and Appropriation Bill, 2553, 2556. Superannuation Bill, 2514, 2516. Bendigo Land (Special Grant) Bill, Portland Harbor Trust (Amendment) 3636. Bill, 3337, 3343. Business of the House-Days and hours Portland Harbor Trust (Borrowing of meeting, 4407, 4733. Suspension of Powers) Bill, 1402. sittings, 4738. President - Illness of Sir Gordon Cadet Surveyors Bill, 2429. McArthur, 5. Close of Sessional Period, 2565. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1652. Commonweal th-State Finance-Victorian Racing (Amendment) Bill, 2412. and Commonwealth debts, 2553, 4703. Railway Department-Increased fares and Companies - Improper and fraudulent freights. 153. Derailments, 884. Trans activities, 420. port of wheat harvest, 1486. Increased Consolidated Revenue Bill, 16. salaries, 4726. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 2), 1039. Soil Conservation (Water Resources) Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 3), 1485. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 4), 4700. Bill, 4048. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 5), 4726. Stamps Bill, 2253. Constitution Act Amendment (Respon- Stamps (Motor Car) Bill, 2049. sible Ministers) Bill, The, 13. Tattersall Consultations (Jackpot Con- Consumers Protection Bill, 2538. sultations) Bill, 2181. Country Party-Appointment of Leader Theatres (Sunday Films) Bill, 2376. and Deputy Leader, 8. Universities - Retrospective salary in Crippled Children-Education and subse creases, 4726. quent employment, 2556. Valuation of Land (Amendment) Bill, Death-The Hon. W. P. Mair, 132. 481, 939, 2025, 4402, 4405, 4545. Decentralization Advisory Committee Bill, Valuation of Land (Valuations) Bill, 2268. The, 2536. Veterinary Surgeons (Amendment) Bill. Education Department-Teaching of re 2723. tarded, crippled and spastic children, Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4691. 2556. Water Bill, 2189. Electoral Provinces and Districts Bill, Wheat-Sale to China, 1486. Transporr 4235. of harvest, 1486. (4) INDEX.

Byrnes, Sir Percy-continued. Cathie, Hon. I. R.-continued. Workers Compensation (Amendment) Education--Commonwealth grants for Bill, 3725, 3728, 3731, 4732, 4742. science teaching, 3322. Allocation of Yooralla Hospital School for Crippled Commonwealth scholarships, 3322. Children-Extensions, 1486, 2556. Education Department - Expenditure, 1280. School libraries~ 1281. Tech c. nical school enrolments, 1282. High school classes, 1283. Class-rooms, Cabinet Ministers. (See " Companies " and 1283. Teachers, 1283. Subsidies for " Constitution Act Amendment (Respon assembly halls and equipment, 1284. sible Ministers) Bill, The.") Technical education on Mornington Cadet Surveyors Bill-Received from Peninsula and in Wonthaggi, 1284. Assembly and first reading, 2240; Wonthaggi Technical School, 1459, second reading, 2278, 2428; Committee 2715. Doveton West State School, and remaining stages, 2430. 1640. Selection of pupils for Common wealth scholarship examinations, 2843. Secondary teachers enrolled for degree Campbell, Hon. W. M. (East Yarra Province). course in education, 2843. Depu Address-in-Reply, 9. tation to Minister from Dande Education-Appointment of Assistant nong Girls' Secondary School, 2888. Minister of Education, 9. Matriculation examinations, 2942, 3094. Education Department-Degree status for Intermediate and leaving examinations, technical colleges, 9. 2945, 3088. Transport of scholars on Momington Peninsula, 3141. Cuise naire method of teaching arithmetic, Camping Areas-Fire hazard along Morn 3911, 3912. ington Peninsula foreshore, 2552, 2555. Electoral Provinces and Districts Bill, Draft regulations, 2552, 2554. 4251. Cancer (Amendment) Bill-Received from Explosives Department-Barge explosion Assembly and first reading, 1943; at Crib Point, 3092. second reading, 2027, 2427; remaining Free Library Service Board-Survey at stages, 2428. Chelsea, 1489, 4718. Cancer Institute Board-Discontinuance of Gas and Fuel Corporation-Permits for clinics in Ararat and Stawell, (qn.) open flame work on total fire ban 409. days, 2713. Cars. (See "Motor Vehicles.") Housing-Problems of low-income families, 1283. Stratum titles, 2402. Housing Commission-Cost of land, Cathie, Hon. I. R. (South-Eastern Province). roads and footpaths in Pines Forest, Aborigines (Amendment) Bill, 4072, 4077, Doveton, Broadmeadows and Laverton 4086, 4088, 4089. estates, 3420. Agents' commission on Address-in-Reply, 1280. sale of homes, 3420. Costs of concrete Appropriation Bill, 2559. houses, 3609. Sale and rental of Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 3), 1489. houses, 3609. Holmesglen concrete Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 4), 4718. housing project, 3609. Consumers Protection Bill, 2166. Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, Country Roads Board-Widening of 3760, 3769. Korumburra-Leongatha road, 1902. La Trobe University Bill, 1752, 1948, Dandenong and District Hospital-Pro 1955. v1s1on of public maternity beds, 2012, Library Services-Report of Board of 2559, 2970. Treatment of casualty Inquiry, 3328, 4719. cases, 2971. Members-Deputations to Ministers, Dandenong Valley Authority-Definition 2888. of district, 1458. Inclusion of land in Monash University (Amendment) Bill, Chelsea, 2717. 2417. Dandenong Valley Authority (Amend Mordialloc Public Hall and Court House ment) Bill, 3638. Bill, 4355. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. (5)

Cathie, Hon. I. R.-continued. Chairman of Committees, The (Hon. W. R. Motor Boating Act-Zoning plans for Garrett )-continued. waters adjacent to Chelsea, 2944. Member accusing Minister of making Ports and Harbors Branch - Supervision untruthful statement, 3764. of works, 3093. Protective groynes at Money Bills-Rights of Legislative Coun Rickett's Point and Safety Beach, cil, 2398. Dromana, 4514. Rulings and Statements as Acting Pre Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1851. sident and Deputy President Social Welfare Branch-Financial pro Business of the House-Suspension of vision, 1489. sitting, 4738. Social Welfare (Cadetships) Bill, 2965. Debate-Ambit of discussion on motion State Rivers and Water Supply Commis for adjournment of House, 139. In sion-Water rates in Dromana-Portsea terjections, 142, 4528, 4659. Member district, 4277. appealing to Chair to exercise autho Superannuation (Time for Election) Bill, rity, 142. Reading of speeches, 1730. 2262. Member speaking twice to motion Teaching Service (Amendment) Bill, before Chair, 4249, 4742. Relevancy 3624, 4734. of remarks, 4250, 4252, 4253, 4528, Teachers Tribunal-Salary claims, 1638. 4530, 4539, 4541, 4657, 4741, 4743. Tomato Processing Industry (Uniform Reference to debate in Assembly, 4377. Agreement) Bill, 2492. Scope of debate on Consolidated Universities-Quota system, 1282. Enrol Revenue Bill, 4705, 4706. Member ments, 1282, 1285. referring to Bill dealt with earlier in Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4671, session, 4706. Statement that 4690, 4691. " Country Party are working out some Water Supplies and Sewerage Services of their crooked bargains '', 4737. -Discharge into sea of effluent from Hansard-Incorporation of unread statis Korumburra and Leongatha, 3419. tics in second-reading speech, 4069. Requirements at Geelong, Ballarat, Question of Privilege-Observance of Werribee, Bacchus Marsh, Latrobe Standing Orders re suspension of sit Valley, Mornington Peninsula, Wan tings, 4739, 4740. garatta, Shepparton, Benalla, Wodonga South-Eastern Province-Issue of writ and Portland, 4652. for by-election, 135. Westernport Bay-Inquiry by State Development Committee, 2838, 2888. Chairmen of Committees, Temporary Cattle Compensation (Amendment) Bill Appointments, 8. Received from Assembly and first reading, 2710; second reading, 2728, Chandler, Hon. G. L. (Southern Province). 2963; Committee, 2963; remaining stages, 2964. Agricultural Education (Continuation) Chairman of Committees-Appointment of Bill, 3609, 3731, 3734. Mr. Garrett, 7. Agriculture, Department of-Fees for certification of seed, 2839. Appoint ment of dairy husbandry officer at Chairman of Committees, The (Hon. W. R. Rochester, 4736. Garrett). Arts and Cultural Centres-Government Rulings and Statements of- subsidies, 3422. Provision of land, Debate-No debate on motion that pro 3422. New Mildura centre, 3422. gress be reported, 623. Scope of Betting-Prosecutions for illegal betting, debate on Supplementary Estimates, 4026. 1487, 1489. Interjections, 1838. Rele Boards and Commissions of Inquiry vancy of remarks, 1841, 1843, 1850, Government and Parliamentary respon 2176, 3355, 3630, 3774. Repetition, sibilities, 2856. 1939, 2274. Ambit of discussion on Bush Fires Relief Committee-Claims for clause 2 of Bill, 2397. Debate on assistance, and assistance granted, clause sought to be negatived, 2528. 2714. (6) INDEX.

Chandler, Hon. G. L.-continued. Chandler, Hon. G. L.-continued. Business of the House--Days and hours teaching arithmetic, 3911, 3912. Pro of meeting, 3095, 3329, 4178, 4406, posed South Melbourne High School, 4407, 4733. Order of business, 3095. 4219. Proposed Richmond High School, Private members' business, 3329. New 4219. Monitoring of school crossings business, 3424. Suspension of sittings, by children, 4514. Wodonga Technical 4737. Adjournment of House to day School, 4654. and hour to be fixed by President, Electoral-Failure of electors to vote at 4746. State elections, 4026. Total electoral Cattle Compensation (Amendment) Bill, enrolments for Victoria compared with 2710, 2728, 2964. adult population, 4026. Directions Companies Act-Reports of inspectors given to electoral commissioners and into affairs of: Reid Murray Holdings enrolments before and after 1937 Ltd. and Payne's Properties Pty. _Ltd., Legislative Council redivision, 4220. 2947; Albion Quarries Ltd., 4515. Electoral Provinces and Districts Bill, Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 4), 4513, 4025, 4062, 4064, 4252, 4254, 4260. 4655, 4725. Essendon Airport-Flight paths, 2842, Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 5), 4513, 2945. Excessive noise from jet air 4656. craft, 2842. Country Roads Board-Erection of Explosives Department-Barge explosion pedestrian bridges in Sunshine, 3419. at Crib Point, 3092. Dandenong Valley Authority-Inclusion Falls Creek Ski Village-Policy of State of land in Chelsea, 2717. Electricity Commission regarding ski Decentralization-Loss of rail revenue tows, 3322. Alpine Developments through industries being declared (Ski Tows) Pty. Ltd., 3323. Vacant under Commercial Goods Vehicles Act, ski-tow sites, 3323. Falls Creek com 3325. mitte~ of management, 3420. Drainage Areas-Number formed and Farm Produce Merchants and Commis subsidies paid, 2943. sion Agents Bill, 3911, 3941, 4169, Education-Commonwealth grants for 4172, 4223, 4225. science teaching, 3322. Allocation of Fisheries and Wildlife Department-Scal Commonwealth scholarships, 3322. lop dredging in Port Phillip Bay, 3093. Education Department-Wonthaggi Tech Gas and Fuel Corporation-Permits for nical School, 2716. Enrolments and open flame work on total fire ban additional buildings at high schools in days, 2714. Doutta Galla Province, 2716. Fitzroy Goulburn River - Diversion of course, High School, 2716. Selection of pupils 2838. for Commonwealth scholarship exami Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill, nations, 2843. Secondary teachers 3864, 3912, 3914, 4060. enrolled for degree courses in educa Home Finance (Amendment) Bill, 3328, tion, 2843. Enrolments at primary 3329. schools in Melbourne Province, 2843. Horse-racing - Revenue from book Secondary studentships, 2844. Enrol makers' turnover tax, 3422. ments at high schools in Melbourne Housing-Number of co-operative hous Province, 2844. Enrolments and addi ing societies formed and funds pro tional buildings provided at Essendon, vided, 2840. Insurance on houses Glenroy and Brunswick technical financed by State Savings Bank, 3421. schools, 2845. " Local zone" enrol Jack Smith's Lake-Acquisition of land ments at Melbourne High School, by Fisheries and Wildlife Department, MacRobertson Girls' High School and 4654, 4736. University High School, 2845. Matri Law Department - Richmond Court of culation examinations, 2942, 3094. Petty Sessions, 3713. Intermediate and leaving examinations, Legislative Council - Proposed inquiry 2946, 3088. Appointment of Director into powers, 4725. and Assistant Director of Education Librarian-Death of Mr. F. J. Perry, 2708. to organizations, and attendance at Library Services -Report of board of meetings, 3323. Cuisenaire method of inquiry, 3328. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. (7)

Chandler, Hon. G. L.-continued. Chandler, Hon. G. L.-continued. Liquor Industry-Report of Royal Com 3325. Loss of revenue through indus mission, 2717, 3329. tries being declared under Commer Litter Act-Prosecutions, 3713 .. cial Goods Vehicles Act, 3325. Repairs Marketing of Primary Products (Egg to Dudley-street bridge, 3422. Co Marketing) Bill, 2947, 3105, 4735. ordination of road and rail services in Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Mansfield-Marysville-N arbethong areas, Board-Introduction of new type of 4027. Healesville line, 4027. Sunshine trams, 2847. Appeal to High Court Newport loop line over-pass at against decision of Conciliation Com Spotswood, 4345, 4514. Increased missioner on one-man buses, 2942. Bus salaries, 4657. services affecting North Fitzroy and Retired Police Association-Requests to Port Melbourne depots, 3088. Resigna Government, 2715. tion of employees, 3088. Rural Finance and Settlement Commis Members-Overseas visits, 3868. sion Bill, 3328, 3434, 3619. Metropolitan Transportation Committee Soil Conservation Authority-Advice to -Traffic survey, 4654. Committee landholders on farm water supplies, meetings, 4654. Projects approved, 4219. 4654. State Electricity Commission - Possible Motor Boating Act - Zoning plans for interconnexion of Victorian and South waters adjacent to Chelsea, 2944. Australian electricity systems, 2946. Motor Registration Branch - Estimated Transformer equipment, 3092. Con revenue from proposed increased fees, nexions at Nanneela South and Tim 4026. mering, 3092. Falls Creek ski village, Motor Vehicles-Car safety belts: Use 3322, 3420. Increased power charges, in departmental vehicles, 3092; stan 3422. dards for manufacture and fitting, 3092. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis Municipalities - Comparison of popula sion - Diversion of Goulbum river, tions in 1954 and 1961, 4156. 2838. Kyneton water supply, 2842, Police Department - Apprehension of 2946, 3094. Mount Eliza service reser offenders by officers while travelling voir, 2847, 4026. Chowilla project, to or from place of duty, 2715. 2946. Towns with water supplies from Personnel, vehicles, divisional patrols underground sources, 2946. Advice to and offences detected in Melbourne landholders on farm water supplies, West Province, 3089, 3325, 3422. 4219. Checking of speedometers in police State Savings Bank-Insurance on houses vehicles, 3850. financed by bank, 3421. Ports and Harbors Branch-Supervision Swans-Destruction during open season, of works, 3093. Protective groynes at 2715. Rickett's Point and Safety Beach, Swine (Amendment) Bill, 2710, 2730. Dromana, 4514. Totalizator Agency Board - Branches Potatoes-Production, prices and . causes and agencies, 2715. Proposed agency of shortage, 3420. in Burnley, 4026. Presidency-Appointment of Mr. Garrett Transport, Public.-Staggered hours of as Acting President, 3087, 3850, 4025. employment, 3714. President - Illness of Sir Gordon Tullamarine Jetport-Construction sche McArthur, 4746. dules for runways and buildings, 2946. Prisons Division-Number of prisoners, Universities - Retrospective salary in 2846. Terms of imprisonment, 2846. creases, 4656. Cost per head, 2846. Cost of staffing Veterinary Surgeons (Amendment) Bill, and upkeep of prisons, 2846. Escape 2606, 2726, 4735. from custody, 2846. Pentridge Gaol Water Supplies and Sewerage Services staff, 3324. Discharge into sea of effluent from Railway Department - Demolition of Korumburra and Leongatha, 3419. Re bridge at Richmond, 3093. Trucks fitted quirements at Geelong, Ballarat, Werri with W-guards, 3325. Derailments, bee, Bacchus Marsh, Latrobe Valley, (8) INDEX.

Chandler, Hon. G. L.-continued. Clarke, Hon. M. A-continued. Mornington Peninsula, Wangaratta, Cohuna Agricultural- Society-Use of Shepparton, Benalla, Wodonga and pavilion, 1720. Portland, 4652. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 2), 1071. Water Supplies on Farms - Advice to Country Roads Board-Use of reflectors landholders by State Rivers and Water on guide posts, 1032. Supply Commission and Soil Conser Decentralization - Implementation of vation Authority, 4219. recommendations of Distribution of Werribee Waterworks District (Abolition) Population Committee, 242. Bill, 3344, 3445. Education Department-Technical educa Wilson's Promontory National Park tion in northern Victoria, 241. Oral Proposed motel, 4218. Water supply schools for the deaf at Ballarat and survey, 4736. Bendigo, 605. Appointment of Director Wombats-Bonuses paid by Government and Assistant Director of Education to and municipalities for wombat scalps, organizations, and attendance at meet 2838. ings, 3323. Friendly Societies (Assignment of Con tracts) Bill, 2502. Chemists. (See "Medical (Amendment) Governor, His Excellency Major-General Bill.") Sir Rohan Delacombe, K.C.M.G., K.B.E., Child Minding Centres-Number and loca C.B., D.S.O., K.St.J.-Service to State, tion in Richmond, ( qn.) 2842. Regis 240. tration, (qn.) 2842, (qn.) 3324. (See Grain Elevators (Borrowing) Bill, 612. also "Health (Child Minding) Act.") Health, Department of-Supervision of Children. (See " Children's Court (Amend municipal rubbish tips, 2713. ment) Bill," "Crippled Children,'' Housing Commission-Houses for rental, "Education Department," "Depart 241. Construction of homes at Roches ment of Health," "Maintenance Bill," ter, 479, 1904. Applications for houses "Mental Health Authority," "Social in Boort and Pyramid Hill, 2403. Welfare (Trainees) Bill" and "Yoor Juries (Women Jurors) Bill, 1858. alla Hospital School for Crippled Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, Children.") 3754, 3767, 3771. Land Settlement - Rochester project, Children's Court (Admission ·to Hearings) 1719. Bill-Received from Assembly and first La Trobe University Bill, 1746, 1948, 1951, reading, 3346; second reading, 3435, 1952, 1953, 1954. 3633; Committee, 3635; remaining Medical (Amendment) Bill, 1840. stages, 3636. Melbourne Sailors' Home Bill, 2497, 2501. Children's Court (Amendment) Bill-Intro Motor Vehicles-Colour factor in road duction and first reading, 229; second accidents, 1720. reading, 235, 301; Committee, 303; Municipalities-Rubbish tips, 2713. remaining stages, 306. Prisons Division-Number of prisoners, Chowilla Reservoir- Construction, (qn.) 2846. Terms of imprisonment, 2846. 2946. Cost per head, 2846. Cost of staffing and upkeep of prisons, 2846. Clarke, Hon. M. A. (Northern Province). Railway Department-Suggested use of Address-in-Reply, 240. reflectors on goods wagons, 1032. Agriculture, Department of-Fees for Storage and cartage of wool, 1071. certification of seed, 2839. Appoint Roads (Special Projects) Bill, 4693. ment of dairy husbandry officer at State Electricity Commission - Trans Rochester, 4736. former equipment, 3092. Connexions Apprenticeship Commission-Transport at Nanneela South and Timmering, for supervisors, 241. 3092, 3139. Children's Court (Admission to Hear State Rivers and Water Supply Commis ings) Bill, 3634. sion-Drainage problems in irriga Children's Court (Amendment) Bill, 302. tion areas, 242. Campaspe irrigation LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. (9)

Clarke, Hon. M. A.-continued. Companies (Amendment) Bill-Introduction district, 478, 609. Rochester irrigation and first reading, 2606; second reading, district, 609. Irrigation office at Tatura, 2717, 3108; Committee, 3116; remain 2403. ing stages, 3120. Tomato Processing Industry (Uniform Consolidated Revenue Bill-Received from Agreement) Bill, 2494. Assembly and first reading, 15; second Transfer of Land (Removal of Caveats) reading, 15; remaining stages, 17. Bill, 3356. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 2)-Re Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill, 4398. ceived from Assembly and first reading. Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4664, 939; second reading, 1034; Committee, 4686, 4690. 1066; remaining stages, 1072. Victorian Inland Meat Authority (Amend Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 3)-Re ment) Bill, 3780. ceived from Assembly and first reading, Water (Amendment) Bill, 3740. 947; second reading, 1261, 1484; Com Water Authorities Accident Insurance mittee, 1487; remaining stages, 1490. Bill, 3359, 3361. Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 2419. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 4)-Re ceived from Assembly and first reading, 4513; second reading, 4655, 4698; Com mittee, 4706; remaining stages, 4726. Clean Air Act-Air pollution: In Yarraville and Newport, 636, 3140; from Traral Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 5)-Re gon cement works, (qn.) 4515. ceived from Assembly and first reading, 4513; second reading, 4656, 4726; re Closer Settlement (Regulations) Bill-Re maining stages, 4 726. ceived from Assembly and first read ing, 229; second reading, 292, 497; Constitution Act Amendment (Responsible Committee, 499; remaining stages, 500. Ministers) Bill, The-Received from Assembly and first reading, 10; second Clothing Material-Labelling of dangerous reading, 10; Committee, 14; third materials, 1073. reading, 15. Cohuna Agricultural Society-Use of pavi Constitution Act Amendment (Subordinate lion, ( qn.) 1720. Legislation Committee) Bill, The-Re Colleges. (See "Agricultural Colleges Bill" ceived from Assembly and first read and " Victoria Institute of Colleges ing, 3731; second reading, 3852; Bill.") remaining stages, 3854. Commonwealth Council for National Fitness Consumers Protection Bill-Received from -"Everyman Fitness Programme," Assembly and first reading, 1380; (qn.) 1260. second reading, 1479, 2159; Commit Commonwealth-State Finance - Victorian tee, 2169; remaining stages, 2180. and Commonwealth debts, 2553, 2560, Messages from Assembly re amend 4703. ments and suggested conference dealt with, 2195, 2380, 2536, 2550, 2560. Companies-Improper and fraudulent activi ties, 410. Problems of auditors, 508. Co-operative Housing Societies. (See Ramifications of Imperial Chemical "Housing.") Industries of Australia and New Zea Co-operative Housing Societles (Indem land Limited, 641. Cabinet Ministers nities) Bill-Received from Assembly holding directorships of public com and first reading, 2026; second read panies, (qn.) 2014. ing, 2139, 2504; Committee, 2509; Companies Act-Reports of inspectors into remaining stages, 2511. affairs of: Stanhill Development Coronial Inquiries. (See " Statute Law Finance Limited, and other companies, Revision Committee.") 290; Reid Murray Holdings Limited and Payne's Properties Proprietary Country Fire Authority-Allocation of Limited, 2947; Albion Quarries Limited, mobile fire units to rural fire brigades, 4515. (qn.) 1032. (10) INDEX.

Country Fire Authority Bill-Received from D. Assembly and first reading, 3418; Dairying Industry. (See "Department of second reading, 3610, 3932; Commit Agriculture" and "Milk Industry.") tee, 3940; remaining stages, 3941. Dandenong Valley Authority-Definition of Country Fire Authority (Borrowing Powers) district, (qn.) 1458. Inclusion of land Bill-Received from Assembly and first in Chelsea, (qn.) 2717. reading, 287; second reading, 294, 485; Dandenong Valley Authority (Amendment) Committee, 492; remaining stages, 494. Bill-Received from Assembly and first Country Roads (Amendment) Bill-Received reading, 3344; second reading, 3434, from Assembly and first reading, 646; 3638; remaining stages, 3639. second reading, 761, 1559; remaining Darebin Creek Bridge-Construction, (qn.) stages, 1560. 1902. Country Roads Board-Grants to country Deaf Children. (See "Education Depart municipalities, (qn.) 479. Fines imposed ment.") on transport operators, (qn.) 1030. Reflectors on guide posts, (qn.) 1032. Death-The Hon. W. P. Mair, 131. Tullamarine Freeway, (qn.) 1361, (qn.) Decentralization-Establishment of indus 1545, 2969, (qn.) 3088, (qn.) 4654, tries in country districts, 237. Imple 4724. Allocation and expenditure of mentation of recommendations of funds, (qn.) 1638. Duplication of Wes Distribution of Population Committee, tern Highway, (qn.) 1720. Diversion 242, 505, 639. Freight concessions, of Princes Highway at Moe, ( qn.) 1823. (qn.) 290. Proposed advisory commit Widening of Korumburra-Leongatha tee, 505, 639. Assistance to industries road, (qn.) 1902. Construction of in New South Wales and Western Aus Darebin creek bridge, (qn.) 1902. Re tralia, 639. Postage and telephone placement of Maribyrnong-road bridge, charges for country industries, 642. (qn.) 2012. Strathmore by-pass road, Payments from Decentralization Fund, ( qn.) 3088. Erection of pedestrian 642. Use of local materials in Govern bridges in City of Sunshine, (qn.) 3419. ment projects in country districts, (qn.) Cranes. (See "Subordinate Legislation 757. Industries approved under the Committee.") Commercial Goods Vehicles Act, (qn.) 1638, (qn.) 1718, (qn.) 3091. New Cream. (See "Milk Industry.") industries established with Government Crib Point Barge Explosion-Cause, injuries support and numbers of persons em and workers compensation, (qn.) 3092. ployed, ( qn.) 3090. Loss of rail revenue Crime. (See "Police Department.") through industries being declared under Crimes (Amendment) Bill-Received from Commercial Goods Vehicles Act, ( qn.) 3325. Establishment of factory at Assembly and first reading, 763; second Traralgon by Galfer Proprietary reading, 949, 1390; Committee, 1395, Limited, (qn.) 3850. (See also "Muni 1494; remaining stages, 1495. cipalities " and " Secondary Indus Crimes (Illegal Use of Motor Cars) Bill tries.") Received from Assembly and first read Decentralization Advisory Committee Bill, ing, 3775; second reading, 3864, 4032; The-Received from Assembly and first Committee, 4041; remaining stages, reading, 2046; second reading, 2149, 4044. 2530; Committee, 2534; remaining Crimes (Parole) Bill-Received from stages, 2536. Assembly . and first reading, 3731; Decimal Currency-Amendment of muni second reading, 3851, 4226; remaining cipal by-laws and regulations, (qn.) stages, 4227. 3423. Crippled Children-Education and subse Department of Agriculture-Resignations of quent employment, 2556. (See also professional officers, ( qn.) 408. Filling "Yooralla Hospital School for Crippled of vacancies, (qn.) 408. Staff in Mil Children.") dura-Robinvale area, (qn.) 2402. Herd Cultural Centres. (See "Arts and Cultural testing, (qn.) 2402. Seed certification Centres.") fees, (qn.) 2839. Appointment of dairy LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. (11)

Department of Agriculture-continued. Dickie, Hon. V. 0.-continued. husbandry officer at Rochester, (qn.) Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, 4736. (See also "Cattle Compensation 3321, 3438, 3762, 3764, 3768, 3771, (Amendment) Bill," "Health (House 3774. hold Insecticides) Bill," "Pesticides Latrobe Valley (Amendment) Bill, 631, Bill," " Stock Foods (Amendment) 772, 1294. Bill," "Swine (Amendment). Bill," Licensing (Dining Permits) Bill, 2181L " Tobacco Industry " and " Tomato 2193, 2415 Processing Industry (Uniform Agree Mildura Irrigation and Water Trusts: ment) Bill.") (Amendment) Bill, 3102, 3330, 3624. Milk Industry-Check testing of milk and1 Department of Health-Supervision of cream, 1822, 2139. municipal rubbish tips, (qn.) 2713. Motor Car (Hours of Driving) Bill, 2195, Child minding centres, ( qn.) 2842, 2245, 2547, 2548, 2549, 2550. (qn.) 3324. Compulsory chest X-ray National Parks (Amendment) Bill, 1582, examinations, ( qn.) 3323. Examination 1644, 2055, 2057, 2058. of school children for vision defects, (qn.) 4514. Qualifications of optome National Parks (Amendment) Bill trists, (qn.) 4514. (See also "Health (No. 2), 4218, 4261, 4389, 4391, 4392, (Child Minding) Act," "Health (House 4393, 4394. hold Insecticides) Bill," "Health National Parks Authority - Mallacoota (Offensive Trades) Bill" and "Health National Park, 782. (Tuberculosis Arrangement) Bill.") Pesticides Bill, 760, 779, 955, 957, 958, 1946. Police Offences (Betting Information) Bill, 1717, 1825, 2265, 2267. Dickie, Hon. V. 0. (Ballaarat Province). Queen Victoria Market - Fidelity bonds Agricultural Colleges Bill, 623, 765, 965. for merchants and agents, 1547. Insol Agriculture, Department of - Staff in vencies of merchants and agents, 1547. Mildura-Robinvale area, 2402. Herd Proposed legislation, 1547. testing, 2402. Racing (Amendment) Bill, 2026, 2140. Barley - Silo accommodation, 1545. Re Secondary Industries - Industries estab muneration of agents, 1545. lished and closed down outside metro Bendigo Land (Special Grant) Bill, 3344, politan area in 1963-64, and numbers 3436. of employees affected, 288. Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill, Shell Pipelines Bill, 2262, 2356, 2411, 1956, 2066, 2361, 2362. 2413, 2524, 2527, 2529, 2530, 2551. Decentralization - Freight concessions, Soil Conservation (Water Resources) 290. Industries approved under Com Bill, 3355, 3446, 4051. mercial Goods Vehicles Act, 1639, 1718, Stock Foods (Amendment) Bill, 760, 776, 3091. New industries established in 1562, 1944, 1945, 1946. country districts with Government Swine Compensation Bill, 1638, 1728. support and numbers of persons Swine Compensation Fund - Payments, employed, 3090. Establishment of 1903. factory at Traralgon by Galfer Proprie Tattersall Consultations (Jackpot Consul tary Limited, 3850. tations) Bill, 1943, 2064. Decentralization Advisory Committee Bill, Tobacco Industry - Blue mould, 1957. The, 2046, 2149, 2534, 2536. Tomato Processing Industry (Uniform Fruit Fly-Outbreaks in Shire of Orbost, Agreement) Bill, 2262, 2292, 2495. 1720. Cost of maintaining road blocks, Victorian Inland Meat Authority - Agree 1720. ment with Swift Australian Company Glenroy to Tullamarine Railway Con (Proprietary) Limited regarding slaugh struction Bill, 3911, 4027. tering at country abattoirs, 2013, 2139. Grain Elevators Board - Salaries and Ballarat and Bendigo meat works: Commission, 1546. Annual capacity, numbers of cattle, Grain Elevators (Borrowing) Bill, 481, sheep and pigs slaughtered, and ex 617. tensions to works, 3418. (12) INDEX.

Dickie, Hon. V. 0.-continued. Divisions-continued. Victorian Inland Meat Authority (Amend Farm Produce Merchants and Commis ment) Bill, 2726, 2951, 3133, 3138, sion Agents Bill - On amendment to 3775, 3784, 3785. clause 24, 4224. Water (Recreational Areas) Bill, 1944, Glenroy to Tullamarine Railway Con 2065. struction Bill - On amendment to Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 1458, second-reading motion, 4364. 1551. Housing (Amendment) Bill-On amend Wilson's Promontory National Park-Pro ment to clause 3, 2399. On clause 9, posed motel, 3423. 2400. Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill on clause 4, 3774. Disposal of Uncollected Goods (Damaged Local Government (Amendment) Bill Motor Cars) Bill-Received from on clause 3, 1934. On clause 16, 1943. Assembly and first reading, 631; second Motor Car (Fines and Drivers' Licence reading, 773, 1567; Committee and re Fees) Bill - On motion for second maining stages, 1569. reading, 1831. Railway Department - On motion for Distribution of Population Committee. (See adjournment of House to discuss "Decentralization.") "failure of Government to maintain Divisions- public safety and confidence in Vic Aborigines (Amendment) Bill - On torian Railways," 890. amendment to clause 2, 4088. Railways (Funds) Bill-On motion for Boards and Commissions of Inquiry - second reading, 2410. On motion for adjournment of the Roads (Special Projects) Bill-On motion House to discuss Government and Par for adjournment of debate, 4355. liamentary responsibilities re Boards Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill - On and Commissions of Inquiry, 2878. motion for third reading, 3932. Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill - Shell Pipelines Bill-On second-reading On clause 3, 2363. motion, 2524. Companies-On motion for adjournment Stamps Bill-On clause 2, 2258. On of House to discuss " improper and clause 5, 2259. On clause 3, 2282. On fraudulent activities of certain persons clause 7, 2282. On clause 8, 2282. with relation to companies," 422. Stamps (Motor Car) Bill - On motion Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 2) -On for second reading, 2052. amendment to motion for second State Electricity Commission ( Contribu reading, 1066. On motion for second tions) Bill - On motion for second reading, 1066. reading, 2368. Consumers Protection Bill - On amend Theatres (Sunday Films) Bill - On ment to clause 3, 2179. On amend motion for second reading, 2378. ment to clause 4, 2180. On motion Victorian Inland Meat Authority (Amend that Council do not insist on amend ment) Bill - On motion that progress ments disagreed with by Assembly, be reported, 3138. 2386. On motion that free conference Workers Compensation (Amendment) be desired with Assembly, 2387. On Bill - On amendment to clause 2, motion that Council do not now insist 3729. On amendment made by Assem on amendments with which Assembly bly, 4732, 4745. insist on disagreeing and agree to amendments now made by Assembly, 2562. Electoral Provinces and Districts Bill - Dog-racing - Revenue from totalizator On amendment to motion for second payments and entertainments tax, (qn.) reading, 4254. On th~rd reading, 4260. 1260. Revenue from bookmakers' turn Fares, Freights and Hospital Charges - over tax, (qn.) 1261. On motion for adjournment of House Drainage Areas-Number formed and subsi to discuss increases, 180. dies paid, (qn.) 2943. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. (13)

E. Education Department-continued. Education-Appointment of Assistant Minis Libraries-Subsidies, 1281. ter of Education, 8, 9, 239. Expendi Mentally Retarded Children-Transport ture, 143, 164, 169, 1280, (qn.) 1903, of, 1069, 1071. (qn.) 2011. Commonwealth grants for Primary Schools-Enrolments of pupils science teaching, ( qn.) 3322. Allocation aged fourteen years and over in of Commonwealth scholarships, 3322. 1963-64, (qn.) 289. Construction of (See also "Agricultural Colleges Bill" class-rooms at Doveton West State and "Agricultural Education (Con School, (qn.) 1640. Number of schools, tinuation) Bill.") (qn.) 1903. Total enrolments in 1963-64, (qn.) 1903. Bemm River Education Department- school, (qn.) 2138. Lake Goldsmith Accommodation-Number of new schools school building, (qn.) 2401. Enrol built, 1044. Neglect of old schools, ments in primary schools in Melbourne 1051. Class-rooms, 1283, (qn.) 1547. Province, (qn.) 2843. Wangaratta Assembly halls, 1284. School resi West State School, 4716. dence at Yea, 4717. Scholarships - Selection of pupils for Administration - Liaison with Public Commonwealth scholarship examina Works Department, 239, 4718. Teach tions, ( qn.) 2843. ing of retarded, crippled and spastic School Committees - Charges for gas children, 2556. and electricity used by canteen com Curriculum-Cuisenaire method of teach mittees, (qn.) 410, (qn.) 1547. ing arithmetic: Use in State schools, School Crossings-Monitoring by children, (qn.) 3911; price of material, (qn.) (qn.) 4513, 4707. 3911; home coaching, (qn.) 3912; tests Secondary Schools-Enrolments of pupils of method, (qn.) 3912; training of aged fourteen years and over in teachers, (qn.) 3912; manufacture of 1963-64, ( qn.) 289. Enrolments and material, (qn.) 3912. maximum capacity at Flemington and Deaf Children-Oral schools for deaf at Pascoe Vale girls' schools, (qn.) 1031. Ballarat and Bendigo, ( qn.) 605. Number of schools, ( qn.) 1903. Total Equipment-Provision of, 1284. enrolments in 1963-64, (qn.) 1903. Examinations - Matriculation certificate, Girls' secondary school building in (qn.) 2942, (qn.) 3094. Intermediate Hope-street, Ballarat, ( qn.) 2401. and leaving examinations, (qn.) 2945, Deputation to Minister from Dande (qn.) 3088. nong Girls' Secondary School, 2888. Finance-Expenditure, 143, 164, 169, 1280, Footscray Girls' Secondary School, (qn.) 1903, (qn.) 2011. 4719. High Schools - Erection of schools in Staff - Appointment of director and Richmond and Prahran, (qn.) 289, assistant director to organizations, and 1068, 1072, (qn.) 4219, 4714. Enrol attendance at meetings, (qn.) 3323. ments and maximum capacity of Teachers-Clerical and administrative schools in northern metropolitan dis work, 1283. Qualifications, 1283. tricts, (qn.) 1031, (qn.) 1357. Size of Training, 1287. Salary claims, (qn.) classes, 1283. Development of site at 1638. Number engaged at primary and Strath Park, (qn.) 1459, 1582. Proposed secondary schools in 1963-64, (qn.) school in South Melbourne, (qn.) 2401, 1903. Trainee teachers, (qn.) 1903. (qn.) 4219, 4706, 4713. Enrolments Enrolments for degree course in edu and additional buildings provided at cation, (qn.) 2843. Secondary student high schools in Doutta Galla Province, ships, ( qn.) 2844. (qn.) 2716. Fitzroy High School, (qn.) Technical Schools-Degree status system, 2716. Enrolments in schools in Mel 9. Lack of facilities in northern Vic bourne Province, ( qn), 2844. " Local toria, 241. Enrolments and maximum zone " enrolments at Melbourne High capacity of schools in northern metro School, MacRobertson Girls' High politan area, (qn.) 1031. Enrolments School and University High School, in New South Wales and Victoria, 1282, (qn.) 2845, 4714. Wangaratta High 1286. Facilities on Mornington Penin School, 4717. sula and at Wonthaggi, 1284, 1288. (14) INDEX.

Education Department-continued. Elliot, Hon. D. G.-continued. Wonthaggi Technical School, (qn.) schools in Melbourne Province, 2843. 1459, (qn.) 2715. Stawell Technical Enrolments at high schools in Mel School, (qn.) 2014. Enrolments and bourne Province, 2844. " Local zone " additional buildings provided at Essen enrolments at Melbourne High School, don, Glenroy and Brunswick technical MacRobertson Girls' High School and schools, (qn.) 2845. Wodonga Tech University High School, 2845, 4714. nical School, (qn.) 4654, 4715. Electoral Provinces and Districts Bill, Transport of Scholars-Increased fares 4249. on Mornington Peninsula, 3141. Fares, Freights and Hospital Charges (See also "Department of Health," Effect of increases, 168, 1062. "Teaching Service (Amendment) Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill, Bill," "Transport Regulation Board " 3914, 4054. and " Victoria Institute of Colleges Health (Tuberculosis Arrangement) Bill, Bill.") 3631. Education (School Committees) Bill-Re Hospitals-Increased charges, 168, 1063. ceived from Assembly and first reading, Housing Commission-Survey of appli 2052; second reading, 2183, 2423; cants for rental and purchase of houses Committee and remaining stages, 2427. and flats, 607, 2942. Eggs. (See "Marketing of Primary Pro Kings Bridge-Reopening after repairs, ducts (Egg Marketing) Bill.") 1822. Electoral-Failure of electors to vote at Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, State elections, ( qn.) 4026. Total elec 3764, 3770, 3773. toral enrolments for Victoria compared Licensing (Dining Permits) Bill, 2414, with adult population, ( qn.) 4026. 2415. Directions given to electoral commis Liquor Industry-Cost of Royal Commis sioners for 1937 Legislative Council sion, 289. redivision and enrolments before and Local Government (Amendment) Bill, after redivision, ( qn.) 4219. 1943. Medical (Amendment) Bill, 1656, 1839, Electoral Provinces and Districts Bill-Re 1842. ceived from Assembly and first read Medical (Foreign Practitioners) Bill, 3353, ing, 4025; second reading, 4062, 4227; 3355. Committee, 4254; third reading, 4260. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Electricity. (See " State Electricity Com Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 3463. mission.") Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Board-Increased fares, 168. Elliot, Hon. D. G. (Melbourne Province). Melbourne Sailors' Home Bill, 2496, 2501. Appropriation Bill, 2555. Mental Health Authority-Dispute involv Basic Wage-Increase, 1063. ing Hospital Employees Federation, Boards and Commissions of Inquiry 2294. Government and Parliamentary respon Mildura (Rating on Unimproved Values) sibilities, 2876. Bill, 485 Cancer (Amendment) Bill, 2427. Motor Car (Amendment) Bill, 967. Commonwealth Council for National Fit- Motor Vehicles-Safety belts, 1361, 1459, ness - " Everyman Fitness Pro- 2555. gramme," 1260. National Parks (Amendment) Bill, 2052, Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 2), 1062, 2056. 1068. National Parks (Amendment) Bill Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 4), 4706, (No. 2), 4371. 4714. Point of Order-Statement in debate, Debate - Withdrawal of statement 3764. objected to, 3764. Police Offences (Betting Information) Education Department-Expenditure, 169. Bill, 2268. High schools in Richmond and Prahran, Portland Harbor Trust (Borrowing 289, 1068, 4219, 4714. Fitzroy High Powers) Bill, 1400. School, 2716. Enrolments at primary Racing (Amendment) Bill, 2411. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. (15)

Elliot, Hon. D. G.-continued. Feltham, Hon. P. V. (Northern Province). Railway Department - Increased fares Administration and Probate (Small and freights, 168, 1062. Estates) Bill, 308, 625. Roads (Special Projects) Bill, 4536, 4698. Appeal Costs Fund (Amendment) Bill, Road Traffic-Peak hour clearways, 3325. 3332. Scientology-Cost of board of inquiry, Business of the House - Days and hours 289. of meeting, 4407. State Film Centre-Availability of film Companies (Amendment) Bill, 3112. library, 4706. Consumers Protection Bill, 2387. Tattersall Consultations (Jackpot Con Country Fire Authority Bill, 3939. sultations) Bill, 2180. Country Roads Board-Grants to country Traffic Commission-Pedestrian crossing municipalities, 479. at intersection of Spring and Bourke Crimes (Amendment) Bill, 1393. streets, 3140. Crimes (Illegal Use of Motor Cars) Bill, Veterinary Surgeons (Amendment) Bill, 4036. 2722, 4735. Crimes (Parole) Bill, 4226. Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4691. Electoral Provinces and Districts Bill, Victorian Inland Meat Authority (Amend 4259. ment) Bill, 3785. General Sessions (Pensions of Chairmen) Bill, 501. Engine Drivers and Firemen-Examinations Goulburn River - Diversion of course, for certificates of competency, 1490. 2838. Equal Pay for the Sexes. (See " Labour Juries (Women Jurors) Bill, 1854. and Industry (Equal Pay) Bill.") Justices (Complaints and Summonses) Essendon Aerodrome-Aircraft engine test Bill, 298. ing pits, (qn.) 1361, (qn.) 1459, 1582. La Trobe University Bill, 1949, 1956. Flight paths, (qn.) 2842, (qn.) 2945, Legal Aid (Costs) Bill, 3344. 2970. Excessive noise from jet air Legal Profession Practice (Amendment) craft, ( qn.) 2842, 2970. Bill, 2512. Estate Agents Bill-Received from Assembly Maintenance Bill, 2038, 2611. and first reading, 1717; second reading, Maintenance (Reciprocating State) Bill, 1824, 2152; Committee, 2156; remaining 1492. stages, 2159. Monash University (Amendment) Bill, Examinations. (See " Education Depart 2418. ment.") Motor Car (Amendment) Bill (No. 2), Explosives-Compliance of Government 3429. Departments with safety regulations, Motor Registration Branch - Estimated 1066, 1072. revenue from proposed increased fees, Explosives Department-Barge explosion at 4026. Crib Point, (qn.) 3092. Point of Order - Scope of debate on Explosives Reserve at Altona-Proposed . clause 2 of Bill, 4259. use of land as penal settlement, 1068, Roads (Special Projects) Bill, 4538. 1072. Sewerage Districts Bill, 1373. F. Social Welfare (Cadetships) Bill, 2966. Falls Creek Ski Village-Policy of State Social Welfare (Trainees) Bill, 622, 1569. Electricity Commission regarding ski Stamps Bill, 2256. tows, (qn.) 3322. Alpine Developments Stamps Bill (No. 2), 4225. (Ski Tows) Proprietary Limited, (qn.) State Rivers and Water Supply Commis 3323. Vacant ski-tow sites, (qn.) 3323. sion - Diversion of Goulburn river, Falls Creek committee of management, 2838. (qn.) 3419. Trustee Companies (Affidavits) Bill, 1491. Farm Produce Merchants and Commission Agents Bill-Received from Assembly Valuation of Land (Amendment) Bill, and first reading, 3911; second reading, 4157, 4545. 3941, 4164; Committee, 4169, 4221; re Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill, 4260, maining stages, 4225. 4366, 4395, 4397. . Valuation of Land (Valuations) Bill, 2275. (16) INDEX.

Feltham, Hon. P. V ....:.._continued. · Freeways. (See "Country Roads Board," Victorian Inland Meat Authority (Amend " Melbourne and Metropolitan Board ment) Bill, 3783. of Works " and " Roads (Special Pro Wills (Minors') Bill, 2960, 2962. jects) Bill.") Workers Compensation (Amendment) Friendly Societies (Assignment of Contracts) Bill, 3730. Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 1944; second reading, 2029, 2502; Committee and remaining stages, 2503. Fem Tree Gully National Park. (See "National Parks (Amendment) Bill.") Fruit Fly-Outbreaks in Shire of Orbost, (qn.) 1720. Cost of maintaining road Films. (See " State Film Centre " and blocks, ( qn.) 1720. "Theatres (Sunday Films) Bill.") Fungicides Act. (See " Pesticides Bill.") Fire Brigades. (See "Country Fire Authority," "Country Fire Authority G. (Borrowing Powers) Bill " and " Metro Galbally, Hon. J. W. (Melbourne North politan Fire Brigades (Long Service Leave) Bill.") Province). Appropriation Bill, 2552. Fireworks-Injudicious use of, 1496. Boards and Commissions of Inquiry - Fisheries and Game (Reduced Licence Fees) Government and Parliamentary respon Bill-Received from Assembly and first sibilities, 2849, 2874. reading, 623; second reading, 760, 958; Business of the House-Days and hours Committee, 959; remaining stages, 960. of meeting, 4406, 4407, 4733. Suspen Fisheries and Wildlife Department-Netting sion of sittings, 4737, 4738, 4739. of snapper in Port Phillip Bay, 1489. Camping Areas - Fire hazard along Mooring fees for professional fishing Mornington Peninsula foreshore, 2552. boats, (qn.) 2401, 2557. Number of Draft regulations, 2552. registered fishing boats, (qn.) 2401, Close of Sessional Period, 2564. 2557. Destruction of black swans Companies - Improper and fraudulent during open season, (qn.) 2715. activities, 410. Scallop dredging in Port Phillip Bay, Companies (Amendment) Bill, 3108, 3119. (qn.) 3093. Acquisitions of land ad Consolidated Revenue Bill, 16. joining Jack Smith's lake, (qn.) 4654, Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 2), 1035. ( qn.) 4736. (See also "Game (Black Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 4), 4698. Swans) Bill.") Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 5), 4726. Consumers Protection Bill, 1484, 2159, Foreshores. (See " Port Phillip Bay " and 2175, 2178, 2179, 2380, 2385, 2386, 2388, "Ports and Harbors Branch.") 2389, 2536, 2537, 2561. Forests-Establishment of pine plantations Crimes (Illegal Use of Motor Cars) Bill, on farms, 8, 238. Logging in watershed 4032, 4044. areas, 238. (See also "Timber.") Death-The Hon. W. P. Mair, 132. Forests (Amendment) Bill-Received from Debate - Withdrawal of statements Assembly and first reading, 2181; objected to, 142, 4737. second reading, 2184, 2357; Committee, Electoral Provinces and Districts Bill, 2359; remaining stages, 2360. 4227, 4249, 4256, 4260. Fares, Freights and Hospital Charges Forests Commission-Planting of softwoods, Effect of increases, 136, 141, 1035. 8. Construction of roads, 238. Revenue, Game (Black Swans) Bill, 1273. ( qn.) 876. Eradication of sfrex wasp, General Sessions (Pensions of Chairmen) (qn.) 1260. Licences for timber ex Bill, 500. traction from Errinundra plateau, (qn.) Health (Child Minding) Act-Proclama- 3421. (See also "State Forests Loan tion, 2619. Application Bill.") Home Finance (Amendment) Bill, 3329. Free Library Service Board-Survey at Hospitals-Increased charges, 136. Chelsea, 1489, 4718. (See also Labour and Industry (Equal Pay) Bill, "Libraries.") 480, 2026. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. (17)

Galbally, Hon. J. W.-continued. Galbally, Hon. J. W.-continued. La Trobe University Bill, 1740, 1744, 1951, Stamps Bill, 2249, 2261. 1952. State Electricity Commission (Contribu Legal Profession Practice (Amendment) tions) Bill, 2370. Bill, 2511. Taxation - Proposed State income tax, Legislative Council - Proposed inquiry 138, 1037. into powers, 4698. Theatres (Sunday Films) Bill, 2372. Librarian - Death of Mr. F. J. Perry, Valuation of Land (Valuations) Bill, 2270, 2709. 2550. Liquor Industry - Royal Commission, Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4408, 1038. 4657, 4687, 4689, 4692. Local Government (Amendment) Bill, Water Bill, 1730. 1934, 1938, 1942. Workers Compensation (Amendment) Local Government (Councillors' Declara Bill, 3722, 3728, 3730, 3731, 4731, 4740, tions) Bill, 294, 300. 4742. Medical (Amendment) Bill, 1835, 1841. Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Board - Increased fares, 136. Galfer Pty. Ltd.-Establishment of factory Members - Overseas visits, 3868. at Traralgon, (qn.) 3850. Mornington Peninsula-Fire hazard in Game (Black Swans) Bill-Received from foreshore camping areas, 2552. Assembly and first reading, 875; second Motor Car (Amendment) Bill (No. 2), reading, 942, 1269; Committee, 1272; 2606, 3097, 3430. remaining stages, 1277. Motor Car (Fines and Drivers' Licence Fees) Bill, 1828, 1843. Gaols. (See " Prisons Division.") Parliamentary Salaries Pensions and Superannuation Bill, 2514, 2516. Personal Explanations - Pair for mem ber, 226. Refusal of leave to allow Garrett, Hon. W. R. (Southern Province). member to make personal explanation, Altona Railway Extension Bill, 3350. 610, 611. (See also "Chairman of Committees, The Points of Order - Relevancy of remarks, (Hon. W. R. Garrett).") 141. Reading of speeches, 1730. Member seeking call during putting of motion, 2874. Member speaking twice to motion before Chair, 4249, 4742. Gas and Fuel Corporation - Increased Police Offences (Betting Information) charges, 1045. Permits for open flame Bill, 2266, 2268. work on total fire ban days, ( qn.) 2713. Political Parties - Agreement between Liberal and Country Party and Country Party, 2011. Gawith, Hon. C. S. (Monash Province). Question of Privilege - Observance of Consumers Protection Bill, 2388. Standing Orders re suspension of Point of Order-Proposed free conference sittings, 4738, 4739. with Assembly, 2388. Railway Department-Increased fares and freights, 136. Compliance with Rail ways Act re fares, charges and condi tions, 646. Reports on accidents under Geelong (Kardinia Park) Land Bill - Re section 135 of Railways Act, 876. De ceived from Assembly and first reading, railments, 876. 3609; second reading, 3735; Committee Roads (Special Projects) Bill, 4352, 4526, and remaining stages, 3738. 4543, 4544, 4695, 4697. General Motors-Holden's Pty. Ltd.-Strike Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 3914, of employees, 1065. 3925, 3928, 3931. General Sessions (Pensions of Chairmen) Scientology - Inquiry, 1038. Bill-Received from Assembly and first Scientology Restriction Bill, 480. reading, 229; second reading, 291, 500; Shell Pipelines Bill, 2527, 2528, 2551. Committee, 502; remaining stages, 503. (18) INDEX.

Glenroy to Tullamarine Railway Construc Granter, Hon. F. J.-continued. tion Bill-Received from Assembly and State Rivers and Water Supply Commis first reading, 3911; second reading, 4027, sion-Kyneton water supply, 2946. 4356; motion that Bill be referred to Towns with water supplies from under Public Works Committee agreed to, ground sources, 2946. 4364. Water Bill, 2192. Goulburn River-Diversion of course, (qn.) 2838. Government Departments - Decentraliza- Grigg, Hon. T. H. (Bendigo Province). tion of headquarters in metropolitan Country Fire Authority Bill, 3418, 3935, area, 237. Use of local materials in 3941. countcy districts, ( qn.) 757. Countcy Fire Authority (Borrowing Government House-Construction of swim Powers) Bill, 489. ming pool, (qn.) 2243. La Trobe University Bill, 1743. Government Printing Office-Death of Mr. Municipalities-Revaluation of properties, Eric King, 4706. monetary increases and appeals, 605, 2711. Regional valuation groups, 759. Governor, His Excellency Major-General Sir Point of Order-Objection to Govern Rohan Delacombe, K.C.M.G., K.B.E., ment being described as "rotten", 1743. C.B., D.S.O., K.St.J.-Speech on open Railway Department-Salacy increases, ing of Parliament, 2. Motion for adop 1033. tion of Address-in-Reply, 8; seconded, State Rivers and Water Supply Commis 9; debated, 237, 503, 631, 1277; agreed sion-Funds allocated and spent on to, 1290. Presentation of Address, 2563, water storages for irrigation and town 2606. Service to State, 240, 503, 639. supplies, 1358. Kyneton water supply, Grain Elevators Board-Salaries and com 2842, 3094. mission, (qn.) 1546. Valuation of Land-Regional valuation Grain Elevators (Borrowing) Bill-Received groups, 759. from Assembly and first reading, 287; Valuation of Land (Amendment) Bill, second reading, 481, 611; Committee, 2018. 617; remaining stages, 618. Rulings and Statements as Acting Chair Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill man- Received from Assembly and first read Debate-Ambit of discussion on clause 2 ing, 3864; second-reading, 3912, 4053; of Bill, 4259. Committee, 4060; remaining stages, 4062. Gross, Hon. K. S. (Western Province). Grain Elevators (Borrowing) Bill, 614. Granter, Hon. F. J. (Bendigo Province). Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 4058. Address-in-Reply, 8. Portland Harbor Trust (Amendment) Bendigo Land (Special Grant) Bill, 3637. Bill, 3339. Education-Appointment of Assistant Minister of Education, 8. H. Forests-Establishment of pine planta tions on farms, 8. Hamer, Hon. R. J. (East Yarra Province). Forests Commission-Planting of soft- Acquisition of Materials Bill, 1495, 1646, woods, 8. 2288. Housing Commission-Sale of homes, 8. Administration and Probate (Small Legislative Council-Functions, 9. Estates) Bill, 229, 232, 310, 623, 624, Marketing of Primary Products (Egg 625, 626, 630, 631. Marketing) Bill, 3104. Appeal Costs Fund (Amendment) Bill, Personal Explanation-Absence during 2837, 2953, 3334. division, 610, 611. Basic Wage-Increase, 1061. Petrol Trading Hours-Fines for breaches, Boards and Commissions · of Inquiry 2242. Government and Parliamentary res Soil Conservation (Water Resources) ponsibilities, 2872. Bill, 4049. Building Surveyors-Examinations, 2944. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. (19)

Hamer, Hon. R. J.-continued. Hamer, Hon. R. J.-continued. Children's Court (Admission to Hear Maintenance Bill, 1034, 1263, 1269, 2044, ings) Bill, 3346, 3435, 3635. 204~ 260~ 261~ 2611, 2612, 2613, 2614, Children's Court (Amendment) Bill, 229, 2615, 2616, 2617, 2618, 4735. 235, 303. Maintenance (Reciprocating State) Bill, Companies - Improper and fraudulent 1261, 1292, 1493. activities, 416. Marine (Amendment) Bill, 1820, 1906, Companies (Amendment) Bill, 2606, 2278. 2717, 3116. Marine Stores and Old Metals (Welfare Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 2), 1060. and Community Organizations) Bill, Constitution Act Amendment (Respons 2195, 2284. ible Ministers) Bill, The, 10, 14. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Consumers Protection Bill, 1479, 2169, Works - Discharge of sewage: Into 2174, 2178, 2179, 2380, 2384, 2385, Yarra river, 757; into Moonee Ponds 2386, 2536, 2537, 2560. ~reek and Maribyrnong river, 876. Country Roads (Amendment) Bill, 646, South-eastern sewerage scheme, 757. 761. Laying of water main in Richmond, Country Roads Board-Diversion of 2012. Proposed ring road, 2942. Muni Princes Highway at Moe, 1823. Tulla cipal rating of Board's property, 3323. marine Freeway, 3088. Strathmore by Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of pass road, 3088. Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 3087, Crimes (Amendment) Bill, 763, 949, 3100, 3465, 3473. 1396, 1399, 1494. Melbourne City Council-Clerical staff Crimes (Illegal Use of Motor Cars) Bill, dealing with parking infringements, 3775, 3864, 4041. 3851. Crimes (Parole} Bill, 3731, 3851. Melbourne Sailors' Home Bill, 2195, 2282, Decimal Currency-Amendment of muni 2499. cipal by-laws and regulations, 3424. Members-Deputations to Ministers, 2889. Fares, Freights and Hospital Charges Mildura (Rating on Unimproved Values) Effect of increases, 1061. Bill, 287, 294, 485. General Sessions (Pensions of Chair Motor Car (Amendment) Bill, 631, 761, men) Bill, 229, 291, 502. 968. Housing-Use of inflammable materials, Motor Car (Amendment) Bill (No. 2), 1823. 3425, 3433. Motor Car (Carriers' Identification Juries (Women Jurors) Bill, 1490, 1548, Marks) Bill, 1717, 1828, 2033, 2034, 1856, 1857, 1858. 2045. Kings Bridge - Reopening after repairs, Municipal Association (Accident Insur 1822. ance) Bill, 1073, 1290. Labour and Industry (Equal Pay) Bill, Municipalities-Assistance to industries 2026. under section 393 of the Local Govern La Trobe University Bill, 1072, 1362, ment Act, 290. Revaluation of proper 1758, 1946, 1948, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, ties, monetary increases and appeals, 1954, 1955, 1956. 605, 2711. Accident insurance for Legal Aid (Costs) Bill, 3094, 3123, 3345. municipal councillors, 608. Regional Legal Profession Practice (Amendment) valuation groups, 759. Bill, 2278, 2290, 2513. Ring Road-Acquisition of East Mel Local Authorities Superannuation bourne property, 2942. (Amendment) Bill, 229, 231. Roads (Special Projects) Bill, 4270, 4345, Local Government (Amendment) Bill, 4354, 4526, 4542, 4544, 4694, 4696, 4697. 1261, 1469, 1929, 1930, 1932, 1934, Road Traffic-Peak hour clearways, 3325. 1937, 1939, 4727. Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 3610, Local Government (Councillors' Declara 3612, 3921, 3924, 3929, 3931. tions) Bill, 290, 293, 300, 410. Sale of Land Bill, 3775, 3858, 4176. Local Government (St. Kilda and Elwood South Melbourne (Unimproved Rating Land Reclamation) Bill, 756, 943, 1378. Poll) Bill, 477, 495, 497. (20) INDEX.

Hamer, Hon. R. J.-continued. Hewson, Hon. H. A.-continued. Taxation - Proposed State income tax, Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill, 1060. 2361. Theatres (Sunday Films) Bill, 2159, 2181, Cattle Compensation (Amendment) Bill, 2378. 2963. Transfer of Land (Removal of Caveats) Clean Air Act-Air pollution from Traral Bill, 2837, 2956, 3357. gon cement works, 4515. Valuation of Land, 605, 759. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 4), 4712, Valuation of Land (Amendment) Bill, 4723. 1721, 4402, 4545. Constitution Act Amendment (Subor Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill, 4260, dinate Legislation Committee) Bill, The, 4270, 4370, 4396, 4397, 4398. 3853. Valuation of Land (Valuations) Bill, Country Fire Authority - Allocation of 1641, 1738, 2270, 2273, 2274, 2275, mobile fire units to rural brigades, 1032. 2550. Country Roads Board - Diversion of Westernport Bay-Inquiry by State Princes Highway at Moe, 1823. Development Committee, 2838 . Decentralization-Establishment of indus . Wills (Minors') Bill, 2710, 2727, 2962. tries in country districts, 237. Workers Compensation (Amendment) Education - Appointment of Assistant Bill, 3609, 3714, 3727, 3729, 3730, 3731, Minister of Education, 239. 4728, 4740, 4742. Education Department-Liaison with Public Works Department, 239. Education (School Committees) Bill, 2424. Hazelwood-Change of name to Churchill, (qn.) 2713. Forests-Logging in watershed areas, 238. Health (Child Minding) Act-Proclamation, Forests (Amendment) Bill, 2358. 2619, 2731, (qn.) 2945, (qn.) 3321. Forests Commission - Construction of Child minding committee, ( qn.) 2945, roads, 238. Establishment of pine ( qn.) 3321. (See also " Child Minding plantations on farms, 238. Centres.") Geelong (Kardinia Park) Land Bill, 3737. Health, Department of. (See " Department Government Departments -Decentraliz of Health.") ation of headquarters in metropolitan Health (Household Insecticides) Bill-Intro area, 237. Use of local materials in duction and first reading, 1904; second country districts, 757. reading, 2721, 3120; Committee, 3122; Hazelwood-Change of name to Chur remaining stages, 3123. chill, 2713. Health (Offensive Trades) Bill-Introduc Hospitals-Increased charges, 239. Sub tion and first reading, 1641; second sidizing of social worker groups, 239. reading, 1728, 2032; Committee and re Housing Commission-Use of Traralgon maining stages, 2033. bricks, 757. Employment of social Health (Tuberculosis Arrangement) Bill workers, 4712. Received from Assembly and first read Latrobe Valley-Industrial development, ing, 3346; second reading, 3441, 3631; 238. Committee, 3632; remaining stages, Marketing of Primary Products (Egg 3633. Marketing) Bill, 3104. Herald and Weekly Times Ltd.-Compliance Milk Industry-Check testing of butter- of vehicles with city traffic regulations, fat content of milk, 1822. (qn.) 478, 635. Permits for cartage of newsprint, (qn.) 480, 635. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1847. Herd Testing. (See " Department of Railway Loan Application Bill, 1578. Agriculture.") Rural Finance and Settlement Commis- sion Bill, 3618. Hewson, Hon. H. A. (Gippsland Province}. Social Welfare Branch- Social worker Aborigines (Amendment) Bill, 4077. groups, 4712. Address-in-Reply, 237. State Development-Gippsland resources, Agriculture, Department of - Herd test- 237. ing, 2402. · State Forests Loan Application Bill, 1384. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. (21)

Hewson, Hon. H. A.-continued. House Committee-Appointment of Council State Rivers and Water Supply Commis members, 6. sion - Water conservation in Bunyip Housing-Provision of homes in rural areas, Tarago district, 4723. 643. Home Finance Trust: Second mortgage loans, ( qn.) 760, ( qn.) 3094; Stock Foods (Amendment) Bill, 1561, number and value of loans granted, 1945. (qn.) 2845. Percentage of homes Subordinate Legislation (Amendment) privately owned, 1279. Survey of prob Bill, 4031. lems of low-income families, 1283. Swine (Amendment) Bill, 2965. Commonwealth housing grants for Timber-Importations, 238. houses on land held under resi dence area titles, (qn.) 1718. Use Tourist Development Authority-Gipps of inflammable materials, (qn.) 1823. land attractions, 238. Stratum titles, (qn.) 2402. Park Townships-Naming of, 2713. more Property Trusts Limited pro Water Supply- Logging in catchment ject at Mount Waverley, 2557. Price areas, 238. Metropolitan water supply, of land, 2557. Number of co-operative 238. housing societies formed and amount Wilson's Promontory National Park of funds provided, (qn.) 2840. Insur Proposed motel, 3423. Water supply ance on houses financed by State Sav survey, 4736. ings Bank, (qn.) 3421. Survey of Victorian housing needs, 4722. (See also " Co-operative Housing Societies (Indemnities) Bill " and " Home Finance (Amendment) Bill.") Home Finance (Amendment) Bill-Intro Housing (Amendment) Bill-Received from duction and first reading, 3328; second Assembly and first reading, 2033; reading, 3424, 3619; remaining stages, second reading, 2144, 2389; Committee, 3621. 2396; remaining stages, 2401. Home Finance Trust. (See "Housing.") Housing Commission- Home Ownership Advisory Bureau. (See Estates - Construction costs and sale "Housing Commission.") prices of brick veneer and concrete Horse-racing-Revenue from bookmakers' homes in Broadmeadows and Fawkner turnover tax, (qn.) 1261, (qn.) 3422. estates, (qn.) 607, 610, (qn.) 756, (qn.) Revenue from totalizator at 1964 875. Olympic Village, Heidelberg, Flemington spring racing carnival, ( qn.) (qn.) 2138. Pines Forest, Doveton, 1360. (See also "Police Offences Broadmeadows and Laverton estates: (Betting Information) Bill " and " Rac Cost of land, roads and footpaths, ing (Amendment) Bill.") (qn.) 3420. Agents' commission, (qn.) 3420. Estates with playground equip Hospital Employees Federation. (See ment, and numbers of people accom " Mental Health Authority.") modated, (qn.) 3421. Hospitals and Charities Commission Finance-Expenditure on slum reclama Increased charges, 136, 239, 1035, 1041, tion, (qn.) 1820. Expenditure on 1045, 1052, 1055, 1061, 1063. Subsidiz construction of units in metropolitan ing of social welfare groups, 239. Dis and country areas, (qn.) 1820. continuance of cancer clinics in Ararat Home Ownership Advisory Bureau-Loca and Stawell, (qn.) 409. Payments to tion, staff and applications dealt with, hospitals and charitable institutions (qn.) 758, (qn.) 2947. from Tattersall consultations and totali Homes-Sale of homes, 8, ( qn.) 409, 504, zator funds, ( qn.) 1034. Use of beds (qn.) 1459, (qn.) 3609. Houses for by patients injured in road and indus rental, 241, 504, 4722. Construction at trial accidents, ( qn.) 1458. Maternity Rochester, (qn.) 479, (qn.) 1904. and casualty cases at Dandenong and Darby and Joan and lone person units, District Hospital, (qn.) 2012, 2559, (qn.) 479, (qn.) 1360, (qn.) 2847. Con 2970, 2971. Building extensions at struction of flats, 1279. Houses pro Royal Melbourne Hospital, (qn.) 2491. vided for aborigines, (qn.) '1823. (22) INDEX.

Housing Commission-continued. I. Terrace housing, (qn.) 2012, (qn.) Immigration-Victorian intake, (qn.) 290, 2138. Survey of applicants for rental 1043. Nationalities of migrants, (qn.) and purchase of homes and flats, (qn.) 290. 2942. Sales under Housing (Contracts Imperial Chemical Industries of Australia with Minors) Act, (qn.) 2943. Agents' and New Zealand Ltd. (See "Com commission on sales, (qn.) 3420. Costs panies.") of concrete houses, (qn.) 3609. Hol mesglen concrete housing project, Industries. (See" Decentralization,"" Secon ( qn.) 3609, ( qn.) 3713. Priority of dary Industries " and " State Develop accommodation for deserted wives and ment.") children, 4746. Inland Killing. (See "Victorian Inland Land-Price of Newport land purchased Meat Authority.") from Department of the Interior, (qn.) Institute of Colleges. (See " Victoria 289. Sale of, (qn.) 1459. Institute of Colleges Bill.") Materials-Use of Traralgon bricks, (qn.) Insecticides. (See " Health (Household 757. Rents-Rebate formula, ( qn.) 2403, ( qn.) Insecticides) Bill.") 2717. Insurance - Motor car insurance policies, Slum Reclamation - South Melbourne 3639. (See also "Motor Car (Amend project, (qn.) 756. Expenditure on ment) Bill (No. 2) ," "State Insurance acquisition and clearance of land and Funds Bill" and "Water Authorities on redevelopment, ( qn.) 1820, ( qn.) Accident Insurance Bill.") 2943. Irrigation. (See "Mildura Irrigation and Staff - Employment of social welfare Water Trusts (Amendment) Bill" and workers, 1067, 1072, (qn.) 2942, 4712. "State Rivers and Water Supply Tenancies-Applications, (qn.) 479, (qn.) Commission.") 1546, (qn.) 2847, (qn.) 3093. Survey of applicants for houses and flats, J. ( qn.) 607. Dwellings vacated, ( qn.) Jackpot Lottery. (See "Tattersall Consul 1546. Evictions, ( qn.) 1546. Applica tations (Jackpot Consultations) Bill.") tions in Boo rt and Pyramid Hill, ( qn.) Jack Smith's Lake. (See " Fisheries and 2403. Applicants with large families, Wildlife Department.") (qn.) 2403, (qn.) 2717. Jetport. (See "Tull.amarine Jetport.") Joint Sitting. (See "Senator, Election of.") Hunt, Hon. A. J. (South-Eastern Province). Judges. (See " General Sessions (Pensions Address-in-Reply, 1285. of Chairmen) Bill.") Consumers Protection Bill, 2176, 2179, Juries (Women Jurors) Bill-Received from 2382. Assembly and first reading, 1490; Dea~h-The Hon. W. P. Mair, 132. second reading, 1548, 1655, 1853; Com Education Department-Technical school mittee, 1856; remaining stages, 1858. enrolments, 1286. Teachers, 1287. Justices (Complaints and Summonses) Bill Technical education on Mornington -Introduction and first reading, 230; Peninsula, 1288. second reading, 233, 296, 494; Com Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, mittee, 494; remaining stages, 495. 3758. Assembly amendment dealt with, 953. Librarian-Death of Mr. F. J. Perry, 2709. Justices (Registration) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 3087; second Local Government (Amendment) Bill, reading, 3329, 3474; Committee, 3478; 1940. remaining stages, 3479. Personal Explanation - Speech on Address-in-Reply, 1720. K. Railway Department - Frankston-Mor- Kings Bridge-Repairs, 1059. Date of re nington line, 969. opening, ( qn.) 1822. Universities-Enrolments, 1286. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. (23)

Knight, Hon. A. W. (Melbourne West Knight, Hon. A. W.-continued. Province). Housing Commission - Price of Newport Address-in-Reply, 631. land purchased from Department of the Altona Railway Extension Bill, 3346, 3352. Interior, 289. Employment of social Automation - Training of staff, 634. workers, 2942. Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill, Labour and Industry Act - Time record 2360, 2362. breaches in Morwell, 636. Cattle Compensation (Amendment) Bill, Local Government (Amendment) Bill, 2963. 1926, 1933. Clean Air Act-Air pollution in Yarra Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of ville and Newport, 636. Works - Revenue from improvement Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 2), 1066, rate, 1719. Municipal rating of Board's 1068, 1071. property, 3323. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 3), 1488, Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of 1490. Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 3458, Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 4), 4706, 3473. 4711, 4719, 4724. Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Country Roads (Amendment) Bill, 1558. Board - Increased fares, 171. Appeal Country Roads Board - Erection of to High Court against decision of Con pedestrian bridges in Sunshine, 3419. ciliation Commissioner on one-man Decimal Currency - Amendment of buses, 2942. municipal by-laws and regulations, Melbourne City Council - Clerical staff 3423. dealing with parking infringements, Education Department Secondary 3851. studentships, 2844. Footscray Girls' Melbourne Harbor Trust - Williamstown Secondary School, 4719. reclamation scheme, 638. Fire-fighting Education (School Committees) Bill, equipment on tugs, 1545. 2423. Metropolitan Fire Brigades (Long Service Electoral Provinces and Districts Bill, Leave) Bill, 482. 4253. Mildura (Rating on Unimproved Values) Engine Drivers and Firemen - Examina Bill, 483. tions for certificates of competency, Motor Car (Carriers' Identification 1490. Marks) Bill, 2033, 2034, 2046. Explosives - Compliance of Government Motor Vehicles - Condition of Govern Departments with safety regulations, ment vehicles, 638. 1066. Municipal Association (Accident In- Explosives Reserve at Altona - Pro surance) Bill, 1493. posed use of land for penal settlement, Municipalities-Destruction of flies, 634. 1068. Newport Oil Wharves Outbreak of Fares, Freights and Hospital Charges fire, 1496, 1546. Effect of increases, 171. Pesticides Bill, 953. Fisheries and Wildlife Department Point of Order - Statement in debate, Netting of snapper in Port Phillip Bay, 611. 1489. Scallop dredging in Port Phillip Police Department - Personnel, vehicles, Bay, 3093. divisional patrols and offences detected Government Printing Office - Death of in Melbourne West Province, 3089, Mr. Eric King, 4706. 3325, 4712. Checking of speedometers Health (Child Minding) Act- Procla in police vehicles, 3850. Strength of mation, 2945. Child-minding commit Force, 4711. Larrikinism, 4712. tee, 2945. Port Phillip Bay - Suggested establish Health (Offensive Trades) Bill, 2032. ment of single port authority, 1718. Railway Department - Increased fares Herald and Weekly Times Ltd. - Permit and freights, 171. Use of Newport for cartage of newsprint, 480, 635. land by Mobil Oil Australia Limited, 407, Hospitals - Increased charges, 171. 757. Discharge of drainage from Housing - Use of inflammable materials, Brooklyn land, 632, 1071. Incidence of 1823. derailments, 633, 1071. Stopping of (24) INDEX.

Knight, Hon. A. W.-continued. Order of Day for second reading of Bill standard gauge trains at intermediate read, 2026. stations, 633. Delivery of furnace oil Labour and Industry (Fees) Bill-Received by Mobil Oil Australia Limited, 757. from Assembly and first reading, 1944; Freight rates for petroleum products, second reading, 2027, 2193; Commit 758. Sunshine-Newport loop line, 1071. tee and remaining stages, 2193. Repairs to Dudley-street bridge, 3422. Labour and Industry (Long Service Leave) Sunshine-Newport loop line over-pass Bill-Received from Assembly and first at Spotswood, 4345, 4514, 4724. Cleanli reading, 1762; second reading, 1904, ness of Spencer-street station, 4725. 2280; remaining stages, 2281. Railway Loan Application Bill, 1579. Land. (See " Acquisition of Materials Railways (Long Service Leave) Bill, 1558. Bill," "Bendigo Land (Special Grant) Road Accidents - Fatalities on Hume Bill," "Closer Settlement (Regulations) Highway, 638. Bill," "Country Roads (Amendment) Road Traffic - Compliance of Herald Bill," "Geelong (Kardinia Park) Land vehicles with city traffic regulations, Bill," "Housing Commission," "Muni 478, 635. Provision of more police cipalities," "Local Government (St. mobile patrols, 639. Kilda and Elwood Land Reclamation) Shell Pipelines Bill, 2520, 2526, 2528. Bill," " Public Lands and Works Bill," State Electricity Commission - Newport " Revocation and Excision of Crown power house, 288. Development of Reservations Bill," " Sale of Land Bill," generating system, 288. Effect of auto "Transfer of Land (Removal of mation, 634. Possible inter-connexion Caveats) Bill," "Valuation of Land of Victorian and South Australian (Amendment) Bill," "Valuation of electricity systems, 2946. Land (Appeals) Bill" and "Valuation State Electricity Commission (Contribu of Land (Valuations) Bill.") tions) Bill, 2363. Land Acquisition-Payment of compensa Traffic Commission - School crossings: tion, 4720. At Sunshine, 636; at Williamstown, 637; Land (Plantation Areas) Act-Areas taken at Spotswood, 1488, 4706. up, (qn.) 1717. Transport Regulation Board - Permits for Land Settlement-Rochester project, (qn.) transport of school children, 636. 1719. (See also "Closer Settlement Victorian Inland Meat Authority - Agree (Regulations) Bill.") ment with Swift Australian Company Land (Special Grant) Bill-Received from (Proprietary) Limited regarding Assembly, 229; declared a private Bill, slaughtering at country abattoirs, 2013, 229; motion that Bill be treated as a 2139. public Bill agreed to, 229; first read Victorian Inland Meat Authority (Amend ing, 2-i9; second reading, 234, 306; ment) Bill, 3781. remaining stages, 307. Werribee Waterworks District (Abolition) Land Tax (Rates and Exemptions) Bill Bill, 3637. Received from Assembly and first read Workers Compensation Board - Delay ing, 1478; second reading, 1550, 2058; in hearing cases, 1068. Committee, 2063; remaining stages, 2064. Yarra River - Lower Yarra crossing, 634. Land Valuation-Regional valuation groups, (qn.) 759. (See also "Municipalities," L. "Valuation of Land (Amendment) Labour and Industry Act-Keeping of time Bill," "Valuation of Land (Appeals) records in Morwell, 636. Bill" and "Valuation of Land (Valua Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill tions) Bill.") Received from Assembly and first read Langi Kai Kai Training Centre. (See ing, 3321; second reading, 3438, 3741; "Prisons Division.") Committee, 3762; remaining stages, La Trobe University Bill-Received from 3775. Assembly and first reading, 1072; Labour and Industry (Equal Pay) Bill second reading, 1362, 1740; Corrunit Introduction and first reading, 480; tee, 1758, 1946; remaining stages, 1956. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. (25)

Latrobe Valley. -Industrial development, Local Government (Councillors' Declara 238. tions) Bill - Introduction and first Latrobe Valley (Amendment) Bill-Received reading, 290; second reading, 293, 299; from Assembly and first reading, 631; Committee, 300; remaining stages, 301. second reading, 772, 1293; Committee, Clerical error corrected, 410. 1294; remaining stages, 1295. Local Government (St. Kilda and Elwood Law Department-Richmond Court of Petty Land Reclamation) Bill - Received Sessions, ( qn.) 3713. from Assembly, 756; declared a private Bill, 756; motion that Bill be dealt with Legal Aid (Costs) Bill-Introduction and as a public Bill agreed to, 756; first first reading, 3094; second reading, reading, 756; second reading, 943, 1374; 3123, 3344; Committee, 3345; remain Committee, 1378; remaining stages, ing stages, 3346. 1380. Legal Profession Practice (Amendment) Long Service Leave. (See " Labour and Bill-Received from Assembly and first Industry (Long Service Leave) Bill," reading, 2278; second reading, 2290, "Metropolitan Fire Brigades (Long 2511; Committee, 2513; remaining Service Leave) Bill " and " Railways stages, 2514. (Long Service Leave) Bill.") Legislative Council-Functions, 9. Proposed inquiry into powers, 4698, 4700, 4705, M. 4725. (See also "Electoral," "Elec toral Provinces and Districts Bill," Mack, Hon. R. W. (Western Province). "Members" and "Parliament.") Appropriation Bill, 2554. Cadet Surveyors Bill, 2240, 2278, 2430. Librarian, The-Resolution of deep regret Camping Areas-Draft regulations, 2554. of House at death of Mr. F. J. Perry, Fire hazard along Mornington Penin 2708. sula foreshore, 2555. Libraries-Report of Board of Inquiry into Cancer (Amendment) Bill, 1943, 2027. library services, (qn.) 3328, 4719. (See Cancer Institute Board-Discontinuance also "Education Department" and of clinics in Ararat and Stawell, 409. "Free Library Service Board.") Child Minding Centres-Number and location in Richmond, 2842. Registra Library Committee-Appointment of Council tion, 2842. (See also "Health (Child members, 6. Minding) Act.") Licensing (Dining Permits) Bill-Received Clean Air Act-Air pollution from Traral from Assembly and first reading, 2181; gon cement works, 4515. second reading, 2193, 2414; Commit Closer Settlement (Regulations) Bill, 229, tee, 2415; remaining stages, 2416. 292, 499. Cohuna Agricultural Society-Use of Liquor Industry-Royal Commission, (qn.) pavilion, 1720. 289, 1038, 2717, 3329. Commonwealth Council for National Fit Litter Act-Prosecutions, (qn.) 3713. ness-" Everyman Fitness Programme," 1261. Loan Funds - Use for revenue purposes, Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 2), 1054, 1052. 1071. Local Authorities Superannuation (Amend Constitution Act Amendment (Sub ment) Bill-Introduction and first read ordinate Legislation Committee) Bill, ing, 229; second reading, 231, 296; The, 3731, 3852. remaining stages, 296. Consumers Protection Bill, 1380, 2388. Local Government Act. (See " Munici Country Fire Authority (Borrowing palities.") Powers) Bill, 287, 294, 492. Dandenong Valley Authority (Amend Local Government (Amendment) Bill ment) Bill, 3344, 3434. In troduction and first reading, 1261; Education Department - Transport of second reading, 1469, 1915; Commit mentally retarded children, 1071. tee, 1929; remammg stages, 1943. Fares, Freights and Hospital Charges Assembly amendments dealt with, 4726. Effect of increases, 174, 1054. (26) INDEX.

Mack, Hon. R. W.-continued. Mack, Hon. R. W.-continued-: Fisheries and Game (Reduced Licence Portland Harbor Trust (Borrowing Fees) Bill, 623, 760, 959, 960. Powers) Bill, 631, 767. Friendly Societies (Assignment of Con Public Lands and Works Bill, 1484, 1641, tracts) Bill, 1944, 2029, 2503. 2519. Game (Black Swans) Bill, 875, 942, 1272, Railway Department-Increased fares and 1275. freights, 174. Health (Child Minding) Act-Proclama Sewerage Districts Bill, 875, 947, 1296, tion, 2731, 2945, 3321. Child minding 1372, 1373. committee, 2945, 3321. Stamps Bill, 1853, 1909, 2257, 2259', 2260, Health, Department of-Supervision of 2261. municipal rubbish tips, 2713. Child Stamps Bill (No. 2), 4053, 4156. minding centres, 3324. Chest X-ray State Electricity Commission (Contribu examinations, 3324. Examination of tions) Bill, 2138, 2194, 2368. school children for vision defects, 4514. Subordinate Legislation (Amendment) Qualifications of optometrists, 4514. Bill, 3731, 3863, 4031. Health (Household Insecticides) Bill, Trustee Companies (Affidavits) Bill, 1261, 1904, 2721, 3122. 1292, 1491. Health (Offensive Trades) Bill, 1641, Valuation of Land (Amendment) Bill, 1728, 2033. 2025, 2878. Health (Tuberculosis Arrangement) Bill, Water (Amendment) Bill, 3609, 3738, 3346, 3441, 3633. 3741. Hospitals and Charities Commission-In Water Authorities Accident Insurance creased charges, 174, 1055. Payments Bill, 2837, 2955, 3360, 3361. to hospitals and charitable institutions Water Bill, 1567, 1730, 1731, 2192. from Tattersall consultations and totalizator funds, 1034. Use of beds by patients injured in road and industrial Maintenance Bill-Introduction and first accidents, 1458. Provision of public reading, 1034; second reading, 1263, maternity beds at Dandenong and Dis 2034; Committee, 2044, 2609; third trict Hospital, 2012. Building exten reading, 2618. Assembly amendments sions at Royal Melbourne Hospital, dealt with, 4735. 2491. Maintenance (Reciprocating State) Bill Land (Special Grant) Bill, 229, 234. Introduction and first reading, 1261; Medical (Amendment) Bill, 1362, 1465, second reading, 1292, 1492; Committee 1836, 1837, 1842. and remaining stages, 1493. Medical (Foreign Practitioners) Bill, Mair, The Late Hon. W. P.-Resolution of 2947, 3095, 3354. deep regret of House at death, 131. Medical Practitioners - Registration of Adjournment of House as mark of doctors with foreign degrees, 1360. respect, 135. Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Mallacoota National Park-Tourist develop Board-Increased fares, 174. ment, 509, 782. Mental Health Authority-Transport of mentally retarded children, 1071. Dis Mansell, Hon. A. R. (North-Western Pro pute involving Hospital Employees vince). Federation of Australia, 2294, 2567. Acquisition of Materials Bill, 2287. Mines (Exploration Licences) Bill, 2195, Agriculture, Department of-Staff in 2243, 2542. Mildura-Robinvale area, 2402. Mordialloc Public Hall and Court House Barley-Silo accommodation, 1545. Re- Bill, 4172, 4177. muneration of agents, 1545. Children's Court (Amendment) Bill, 305. Municipalities-Rubbish tips, 2713. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 2), 1069. " No-Doz Awakeners "-Component drugs Consumers Protection Bill, 2165. and effect of continued usage, 2710, Co-operative Housing Societies (Indemni- 2837. ties) Bill, 2507. Portland Harbor Trust (Amendment) Bill, Education Department - Transport of 2878, 2957, 3341. mentally retarded children, 1069. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. (27)

Mansell, Hon. A. R.-continued. May, Hon. R. W. (Gippsland Province). Fisheries and Game (Reduced Licence Address-in-Reply, 639. Fees) Bill, 959, 960. Appropriation Bill, 2557, 2559. Grain Elevators Board-Payment of Boats-Registrations with Fisheries and salaries and commission, 1546. Wildlife Department, Transport Regu Local Authorities Superannuation lation Board and Marine Board, 2401, (Amendment) Bill, 296. 2557. Local Government (Amendment) Bill, Clothing Material - Labelling of 1919, 1933. dangerous materials, 1073. Local Government (Councillors' Declara Country Roads Board-Fines imposed on tions) Bill, 300. road transport operators, 1030. Allo Local Government (St. Kilda and Elwood cation and expenditure of funds, 1638. Land Reclamation) Bill, 1377. Dandenong Valley Authority (Amend Medical (Foreign Practitioners) Bill, 3354. ment) Bill, 3638. Mental Health Authority-Transport of Decentralization-Proposed advisory com mentally retarded children, 1069. mittee, 639. Implementation of recom Mildura Irrigation and Water Trusts mendations of Distribution of Population (Amendment) Bill, 3622. Committee, 639. Assistance to indus Mildura (Rating on Unimproved Values) tries in New South Wales and Western Bill, 484. Australia, 639. Postage and telephone Motor Car (Amendment) Bill, 968. charges to country industries, 642. Motor Car (Fines and Drivers' Licence Payments from Decentralization Fund, Fees) Bill, 1829, 1843. 642. Establishment of factory at Municipal Association (Accident Insur Traralgon by Galfer Pty. Ltd., 3850. ance) Bill, 1494. Decentralization Advisory Committee Queen Victoria Market-Fidelity bonds Bill, The, 2532. for merchants and agents, 1547. In Disposal of Uncollected Goods (Damaged solvencies of merchants and agents, Motor Cars) Bill, 1568. 1547. Proposed legislation, 1547. Drainage Areas - Number formed and Railways (Funds) Bill, 2409. subsidies paid, 2943. Sewerage Districts Bill, 1295. Education Department - Bemm River school, 2138. Education (School Committees) Bill, 2424. Fireworks-Injudicious use of, 1496. Maribymong-road Bridge - Replacement, Fisheries and Game (Reduced Licence (qn.) 2012. Fees) Bill, 959. Marine (Amendment) Bill-Received from Fisheries and Wildlife Department-Moor Assembly and first reading, 1820; ing fees for professional fishing boats, second reading, 1906, 2276; Committee 2401, 2557. Number of registered and remaining stages, 2278. fishing boats, 2401, 2557. Forests Commission - Eradication of Marine Stores and Old Metals (Welfare and sirex wasp, 1260. Licences for timber Community Organizations) Bill - Re extraction from the Errinundra plateau, ceived from Assembly and first read 3421. ing, 2195; second reading, 2284, 2492; Fruit Fly-Outbreaks in Shire of Orbost, remaining stages, 2492. 1720. Cost of maintaining road blocks, Marketing of Primary Products (Egg 1720. Marketing) Bill-Introduction and first Governor, His Excellency Major-General reading, 2947: second reading, 2947, Sir Rohan Delacombe, K.C.M.G., K.B.E., 3102; Committee, 3105; remammg C.B., D.S.O., K.St.J.-Service to State, stages, 3108; Assembly amendments 639. dealt with, 4735. Health (Household Insecticides) Bill, 3121. Markets. (See " Farm Produce Merchants Health (Tuberculosis Arrangement) Bill, and Commission Agents Bill " and 3632. "Queen Victoria Market.") Housing - Provision of homes in rural areas, 643. (28) INDEX.

May, Hon. R. W.-continued. May, Hon. R. W.-continued. Jack Smith's Lake-Acquisition of land Veterinary Surgeons (Amendment) Bill, by Fisheries and Wildlife Department, 2725. 4654, 4736. Wombats-Amounts paid by Government Justices (Complaints and Summonses) and municipalities as bonuses for Bill, 299. wombat scalps, 2838. Land (Plantation Areas) Act-Areas taken up, 1717. Land (Special Grant) Bill, 306. Latrobe Valley (Amendment) Bill, 1294. McArthur, Sir Gordon (South-Western Marine Stores and Old Metals (Welfare Province). (See " President, The, and Community Organizations) Bill, (Sir Gordon McArthur).") 2492. Medical (Amendment) Bill, 1657. Milk Industry-Check testing of milk and McCrae Foreshore-Use of land as car park, cream, 2139, 2559. (qn.) 1360. Mines (Exploration Licences) Bill, 2541. Meat. (See " Victorian Inland Meat Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Prac Authority.") tices-Effect on small shopkeepers, 643. Motor Car (Carriers' Identification Medical (Amendment) Bill - Introduction Marks) Bill, 2033. and first reading, 1362; second reading, Motor Car (Hours of Driving) Bill, 2545. 1465, 1656, 1831; Committee, 1836; National Parks (Amendment) Bill remaining stages, 1842. (No. 2), 4387. Medical (Foreign Practitioners) Bill-Intro Pesticides Bill, 954. duction and first reading, 2947; second Ports and Harbors Branch-Development reading, 3095, 3353; Committee, 3354; of Port Welshpool, 644. remaining stages, 3355. Prisons Division-Number of prisoners, Medical Practitioners-Registration of doc 2846. Escapes from custody, 2846. tors with foreign qualifications, ( qn.) Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1851. 1360. Railway Department-Collisions between Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of cars and trains, 645. Fatal accidents Works-Discharge of sewage: Into at level crossings on South Gippsland Yarra river, (qn.) 757; into Moonee Highway, 1032. Ponds creek and Maribyrnong river, Revocation and Excision of Crown (qn.) 876. South-eastern sewerage Reservations Bill, 1564, 1567. scheme, (qn.) 757. Revenue from im Road Accidents-Collisions between cars provement rate, (qn.) 1719. Laying of and trains, 645. water main in Richmond, (qn.) 2012. Road Traffic-Policing of road transport Acquisition of East Melbourne proper operators, 1030. ties for ring road, (qn.) 2941. Muni Rural Finance and Settlement Commis cipal rating of Board's property, (qn.) sion-Housing finance, 643. 3323. Secondary Industries - Ramifications of Imperial Chemical Industries of Aus Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of tralia and New Zealand Limited, 641. Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill-Re State Electricity Commission (Contribu- ceived from Assembly and first read tions) Bill, 2365. ing, 3087; second reading, 3100, 3449; Committee, 3465; remaining stages, Superphosphate-Price, 641. 3474. Swine Compensation Bill, 2046. Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Swine Compensation Fund - Payments, Board-Increased fares, 136, 1035, 1039, 1903. 1041, 1045, 1050, 1052, 1061. Age of Transport Regulation Board-Fines im trams, (qn.) 407. Provision and cost posed on road transport operators, of new trams, (qn.) 407, (qn.) 2847. 1030. Construction of bus bodies, ( qn.) 408, Valuation of Land (Amendment) Bill, (qn.) 610. Concessional fares for chil 2022. dren and students, (qn.) 1030. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. (29)

Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Merrifield, Hon. Samuel-continued. Board-continued. Chairman of Committees - Appointment Renewal of track in Swan-street, Rich of Mr. Garrett, 7. mond, ( qn.) 1260. Suggested re Closer Settlement (Regulations) Bill, 498. organization of tram and bus services, Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 2), 1044. 1279. Appeal to High Court against Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 3), 1484, decision of Conciliation Commissioner 1487. concerning one-man buses, ( qn.) 2942. Constitution Act Amendment (Respon Bus services affecting North Fitzroy sible Ministers) Bill, The, 12. and Port Melbourne depots, (qn.) 3087. Fares, Freights and Hospital Charges Resignation of employees, (qn.) 3087. Effect of increases, 1044. Melbourne City Council-Parking infringe Game (Black Swans) Bill, 1275. ments staff, (qn.) 3851. Health (Offensive Trades) Bill, 2032. Hospitals - Increased fees, 1045. Melbourne Harbor Trust-Williamstown Justices (Complaints and Summonses) reclamation scheme, 638. Fire-fighting Bill, 495. equipment of tugs, (qn.) 1545. Land (Special Grant) Bill, 306. Melbourne Sailors' Home Bill-Received Land Tax (Rates and Exemptions) Bill, from Assembly, 2195; declared a private 2063. Bill, 2195; motion that Bill be treated Local Government (Amendment) Bill, as a public Bill agreed to, 2195; first 1921, 1933, 1940. reading, 2195; second reading, 2282, McCrae Foreshore - Use of area as car 2496; Committee, 2499; remaining park, 1360. stages, 2501. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Members-Swearing in of members after Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 3450, periodical election, 2. Illness of Presi 3473. dent, 4. Congratulations to new mem Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways bers, 5. Leave of absence for Mr. Board-Increased fares, 1045. Chandler, 7, 229, 2563. Party Leaders, Mines (Exploration Licences) Bill, 2538. 8. Pairs, 141, 226. New member Parliament House - Cleaning of Library, introduced and sworn: Mr. Cathie for 1487. Parking of members' cars, 1858. South-Eastern Province, 875. Deputa Political Parties - Labour Party Leader, tions to Ministers, 2888, 2889. Over 8. seas visits, 3868. Portland Harbor Trust (Amendment) Bill, Mental Health Authority - Transport of 3335. President - Illness of Sir Gordon mentally handicapped children, 1069, McArthur, 5. 1071. Dispute involving Hospital Public Lands and Works Bill, 2516, 2520. Employees Federation of Australia, Public Works Loan Application Bill, 2294, 2567. Care of retarded, crippled 1648, 1846. and spastic children, 2556. Railway Department - Increased fares and freights, 1045. Railways (Funds) Bill, 2409. Revocation and Excision of Crown Reser vations Bill, 1564. Merrifield, Hon. Samuel (Doutta Galla Rural Finance and Settlement Commis Province). sion Bill, 3618. Administration and Probate (Small Shell Pipelines Bill, 2526, 2528, 2529, Estates) Bill, 625, 629. 2530. Basic Wage-Increase, 1045. Stamps Bill, 2254. Boards and Commissions of Inquiry - Stamps (Motor Car) Bill, 2051. Government and Parliamentary respon sibilities, 2858. State Electricity Commission (Contribu Bush Fires Relief Committee-Claims for tions) Bill, 2366, 2371. assistance, and assistance granted, State Forests Loan Application Bill, 1387. 2714. Swans - Destruction during open season, Cadet Surveyors Bill, 2428, 2430. 2715. (30) INDEX.

Merrifield, Hon. Samuel-continued. Mobil Oil Australia Limited-Use of rail Taxation - Proposed State income tax, way land at Newport, (qn.) 407. 1047. Delivery of furnace oil to Railway Department, (qn.) 757. Valuation of Land (Amendment) Bill, 2014. Monash University (Amendment) Bill-Re Valuation of Land (Valuations) Bill, ceived from Assembly and first reading, 2030, 2273. 1944; second reading, 2028, 2417; Com mittee and remaining stages, 2418. Water Bill, 2185. Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Practices Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 2418. -Effect on small shopkeepers, 643. Mordialloc Public Hall and Court House Bill-Received from Assembly and first Metropolitan Fire Brigades (Long Service reading, 4172; second reading, 4177, Leave) Bill-Received from Assembly 4355; remaining stages, 4356. and first reading, 287; second reading, Mornington Peninsula-Use of foreshore 295, 482; Committee and remaining land at Mccrae as car park, (qn.) 1360. stages, 483. Fire hazard in foreshore camping areas, Metropolitan Transportation Committee 2552, 2554. (See also "Education De Traffic survey, (qn.) 4654, 4724. Com partment-Technical Schools and mittee meetings, (qn.) 4654, 4724. Transport of Scholars," "Railway De Projects approved, (qn.) 4654, 4724. partment-Country Lines; and " State Rivers and Water Supply Commission.") Migrants. (See "Immigration.") Motions for Adjournment of the House to Mildura Arts Centre. (See " Arts and Enable Members to Discuss Public Cultural Centres.") Questions-Increases in fares, freights and hospital charges, 136. Fraudulent Mildura Irrigation and Water Trusts activities of certain persons with re (Amendment) Bill - Received from lation to companies, 410. Train derail Assembly and first reading, 3102; second ments, 876. Government and reading, 3330, 3621; Committee and Parliamentary responsibilities re Boards remaining stages, 3624. and Commissions of Inquiry, 2849. Mildura (Rating on Unimproved Values) Motor Boating Act-Zoning plans for Bill-Received from Assembly, 287; waters adjacent to Chelsea, (qn.) 2944. declared a private Bill, 287; motion that Motor Car (Amendment) Bill - Received Bill be dealt with as a public Bill agreed from Assembly and first reading, 631; to, 287; first reading, 287; second read second reading, 761, 967; Committee, ing, 294, 483; Committee, 484; remain 968; remaining stages, 969. ing stages, 485. Motor Car (Amendment) Bill (No. 2) Milk Industry-Check testing of milk and Introduction and first reading, 2606; cream, (qn.) 1822, (qn.) 2139, 2559. second reading, 3097, 3425; Committee, (See also "Department of Agricul 3430; remaining stages, 3434. ture.") Motor Car (Carriers' Identification Marks) Mines (Exploration Licences) Bill-Received Bill-Received from Assembly and first from Assembly and first reading, 2195; reading, 1717; second reading, 1828, second reading, 2243, 2538; Committee 2033; Committee, 2033, 2045; remaining and remaining stages, 2542. stages, 2046. Motor Car (Fines and Drivers' Licence Fees) Ministry - Reconstitution, 5. Members Bill-Received from Assembly and first holding directorships of public com reading, 1400; second reading, 1468, panies, (qn.) 2014. (See also "Con 1828; Committee, 1831, 1843; remaining stitution Act Amendment (Responsible stages, 1844. Ministers) Bill, The.") Motor Car (Hours of Driving) Bill-Received Minors. (See "Property Law (Loans to from Assembly and first reading, 2195; Minors) Bill" and "Wills (Minors') second reading, 2245, 2542; Committee, Bill.") 2547; remaining stages, 2550. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. (31)

Motor Registration Branch - Estimated Municipalities-continued. revenue from proposed increased fees, Bill," "Valuation of Land (Amend (qn.) 4026. ment) Bill," "Valuation of Land Motor Vehicles-Condition of Government (Appeals) Bill" and "Valuation of vehicles, 638. Stolen cars, (qn.) 1029. Land (Valuations) Bill.") Number registered and revenue from fees, ( qn.) 1030. Safety belts, ( qn.) N. 1361, (qn.) 1459, 2555, (qn.) 3092, 3138. Colour factor in road accidents, National Fitness Council of Victoria. (See (qn.) 1720. Unroadworthy vehicles, " Commonwealth Council for National 3639. Motor car insurance policies, Fitness.") 3639. (See also ~·Crimes (Amendment) National Parks (Amendment) Bill-Received Bill," " Crimes (Illegal Use of Motor from Assembly and first reading, 1582; Cars) Bill,'' "Disposal of Uncollected second reading, 1644, 2052; Committee, Goods (Damaged Motor Cars) Bill," 2055; remaining stages, 2058. "Roads (Special Projects) Bill," "Road National Parks (Amendment) Bill (No. 2) Traffic," "Road Traffic (Infringements) -Received from Assembly and first Bill" and "Stamps (Motor Car) Bill.") reading, 4218; second reading, 4261, Mount Buller-Ski tows, (qn.) 3322. 4371; Committee, 4389; remaining Mount Eliza Service Reservoir. (See " State stages, 4394. Rivers and Water Supply Commission.") National Parks Authority. (See "Malla Municipal Association (Accident Insurance) coota National Park" and "Wilson's Bill-Received from Assembly, 1073; Promontory National Park.") declared a private Bill, 1073; motion Newport Oil Wharves-Outbreak of fire, that Bill be dealt with as a public Bill 1496, (qn.) 1546. agreed to, 1073; first reading, 1073; second reading, 1290, 1493; remaining stages, 1494. Nicol, Hon. G. J. (Monash Province). Municipalities - Assistance to industries Address-in-Reply, 239. under section 393 of the Local Govern Boards and Commissions of Inquiry ment Act, 290. Revaluation of proper Govemment and Parliamentary respon ties, monetary increases and appeals, sibilities, 2874. (qn.) 605, (qn.) 2711. Accident insur Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 2), 1048, ance for municipal councillors, (qn.) 1064. 608. Destruction of flies, 634. Regional valuation groups, (qn.) 759. Construc Consumers Protection Bill, 2173, 2178. tion of Darebin creek bridge, (qn.) General Motors-Holden's Pty. Ltd.-Strike 1902. Replacement of Maribyrnong of employees, 1065. road bridge, (qn.) 2012. Rubbish tips, La Trobe University Bill, 1754. (qn.) 2713. Amounts paid as bonuses Parliament House-Door signs, 2888. for wombat scalps, (qn.) 2838. Drain age areas, (qn.) 2943. Building sur Point of Order-Statement in debate, veyor's examination, 2944. Amendment 1048. of by-laws and regulations in respect of Shell Pipelines Bill, 2551. decimal currency, (qn.) 3423. Com Statute Law Revision Committee-Reports parison of populations in 1954 and presented: Use of shot-guns, 136; 1961, (qn.) 4155. (See also "Local Evidence Act, 136; Public Lands and Authorities Superannuation (Amend Works Bill, 760; Local Government Act, ment) Bill," "Local Government 2492; Transfer of Land (Removal of (Amendment) Bill," "Local Govern Caveats) Bill, 2606; Vagrancy Bill, ment (Councillors' Declarations) Bill," 3328; coronial inquiries and committal "Local Government (St. Kilda and proceedings, 4345. Elwood Land Reclamation) Bill," "Mel bourne City Council," " Mildura (Rating Taxation-Proposed State income tax, on Unimproved Values) Bill," "South 239, 1064. Melbourne (Unimproved Rating Poll) (32) IND1'1X.

Night Watchmen and Private Security O'Connell, Hon. G. J.-continued. Guards. (See "Police Department.") Local Government (Amendment) Bill, "No-Doz Awakeners "-Component drugs 1915, 1930. and effect of continued usage, (qn.) Marine Stores and Old Metals (Welfare 2710, (qn.) 2837. and Community Organizations) Bill, 2492. o. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of O'Connell, Hon. G. J. (Melbourne Province). Works-Laying of water main in Rich mond, 2012. Bendigo Land (Special Grant) Bill, 3636. Betting-Prosecutions for illegal betting, Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of 4026. Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 3456. Child Minding Centres-Number and Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways location in Richmond, 2842. Registra Board-Increased fares, 172. Renewal tion, 2842. of track in Swan-street, Richmond, Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 2), 1070. 1260. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 3), 1488. Motor Vehicles - Registrations and Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 4), 4708, revenue from fees, 1030. 4722. Police Department - Authorized and Constitution Act Amendment (Subordin actual strength of staff, 3422, 4709. ate Legislation Committee) Bill, The, Strength of mobile traffic section, 3422, 3853. 4709. Decentralization - New industries estab lished in country districts with Govern Police Offences (Betting Information) ment support and numbers of persons Bill, 2262. employed, 3090. Potatoes-Production, prices and causes Decentralization Advisory Committee Bill, of shortage, 3420. The, 2530. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1846. Dog-racing - Revenue from totalizator Railway Department-Increased fares and payments and entertainments tax, 1260. freights, 172. Lighting of stations, Revenue from bookmakers' turnover 1070. Painting of carriages, 1070. Un tax, 1261. manned stations, 1070, 4722. Demoli Fares, Freights and Hospital Charges tion of bridge at Richmond, 3093. Effect of increases, 172. Fisheries and Game (Reduced Licence Subordinate Legislation (Amendment) Fees) Bill, 958. Bill, 4030, 4032. Game (Black Swans) Bill, 1270. Subordinate Legislation Committee-Re Health, Department of-Chest X-ray ex port presented: Labour and Industry aminations, 3323. (Explosive-powered Tools) Regulations, Horse-racing - Revenue from book 3095. makers' turnover tax, 1261, 3422. Swine (Amendment) Bill, 2964. Revenue from totalizator at 1964 Flem ington spring racing carnival, 1360. Swine Compensation Bill, 2046. Hospitals-Increased charges, 172. Totalizator Agency Board-Staffing of Hospitals and Charities Commission agencies, 1488, 4708. Number of Payments to . hospitals and charitable branches and agencies, 2714. Proposed institutions from Tattersall consultations agency in Burnley, 4026. and totalizator funds, 1034. Water Authorities Accident Insurance Housing Commission - Applications for Bill, 3359. tenancies, 479, 1546, 3093. Darby and Joan and lone person units, 479, 1360. Dwellings vacated, 1546. Evictions, Oil Companies. (See " Mobil Oil Australia 1546. Estates with playground equip Limited" and "Shell Pipelines Bill.") ment and numbers of people accommo Olympic Village, Heidelberg-Date of con dated, 3421. struction, ( qn.) 2138. Law Department-Richmond Court of Petty Sessions, 3713. Optometrists-Qualifications, (qn.) 4514. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. (33)

P. Police Department-continued. Parks. (See "National Parks (Amendment) of Police Force, (qn.) 3422, 4709, 4711. Bill," "National Parks (Amendment) Strength of mobile traffic section ( qn.) Bill (No. 2) ," "Mallacoota National 3422, 4709. Checking of speedometers Park" and "Wilson's Promontory on police vehicles, ( qn.) 3850. Use of National Park.") lethal weapons by private security Parliament-Opening of session, 1. Main guards and night watchmen, 4710. tenance of State's sovereignty, 1277. Larrikinism, 4712. Brunswick police station, 4713. (See also "Super Parliamentary Contributory Retirement annuation (Time for Election) Bill.") Fund-Proposed increase in pensions, Police Offences (Betting Information) Bill 4705. Received from Assembly and first Parliamentary Salaries Pensions and reading, 1717; second reading, 1825, Superannuation Bill - Received from 2262; Committee, 2265; remaining Assembly and first reading, 2380; stages, 2268. second reading, 2404, 2514; Committee, Police Pensions Fund-Police pensions and 2516; third reading, 2516. police widows' pensions, (qn.) 2240, Parliament House-Facilities for members, (qn.) 2715, 4705. 1280. Cleaning of Library, 1487. Political Parties-Country Party and Labor Parking of members' cars, 1858. Door Party ~eaders, 8. Agreement between signs, 2888. Liberal and Country Party and Countiry Party, (qn.) 2011. Parole Board. (See "Crimes (Parole) Bill" Portland Harbor Trust (Amendment) Bill and "Social Welfare (Trainees) Bill.") Received from Assembly and first read Payne's Properties Proprietary Ltd. (See ing, 2878; second reading, 2957, 3335; "Companies Act.") Committee, 3341; remaining stages, Pentridge Gaol. (See "Prisons Division.") 3344. Portland Harbor Trust (Borrowing Powers) "Pep" Pills. (See "No-Doz Awakeners.") Bill-Received from Assembly and first Personal Explanations-By Mr. Galbally, reading, 631; second reading, 767, 1400; 226; by Mr. Thompson, 228; by Mr. remaining stages, 1403. Granter, 610; by Mr. Thom, 1361; by Port Phillip Bay-Use of foreshore area at Mr. Hunt, 1720. McCrae for car park, (qn.) 1360. Sug Pesticides Bill-Introduction and first read gested establishment of single port ing, 760; second reading, 779, 953; authority, ( qn.) 1718. Fire hazard in Committee, 955; remaining stages, 958. foreshore camping areas, 2552, 2554. Assembly amendments dealt with, 1946. (See also " Fisheries and Wildlife De partment.") Petrol Trading Hours-Fines for breaches, Ports and Harbors Branch-Development of (qn.) 2242. Port Welshpool, 644. Supervision of Pharmacy Board. (See " Medical (Amend works, (qn.) 3093. Construction of ment) Bill.") groynes at Rickett's Point and Safety Pigs. (See " Swine (Amendment) Bill " and Beach, Dromana, (qn.) 4514. " Swine Compensation Bill.") Port Welshpool-Development, 644. Pine Plantations. (See " Forests.") Potatoes-Production, prices and causes of shortage, ( qn.) 3420. Police Department-Policing of road trans President-Illness of Sir Gordon McArthur, port operators, (qn.) 1030. Personnel in 4, 4746. Ascot Vale, Moonee Ponds, Essendon and President, Acting - Appointment of Mr. Glenroy, (qn.) 1904. Apprehension of Garrett, 3087, 3850, 4025. offenders by officers while travelling to or from place of duty, (qn.) 2715. Per sonnel, vehicles, divisional patrols and offences detected in Melbourne West President, The (Sir Gordon McArthur) Province, (qn.) 3089, (qn.) 3325, 4712. RuZings and statements of Vehicles fitted with safety belts, (qn.) Address-in-Reply, 8; presentation, 2563, 3092. Authorized and actual strength 2606. 5372165.-2 (34) INDEX.

President, The (Sir Gordon McArthur) President, The (Sir Gordon McArthur) continued. continued. Bills Declared Private - Land (Special Personal Explanation-Refusal of leave Grant) Bill, 229. Mildura (Rating on to allow member to make personal Unimproved Values) Bill, 287. South explanation, 610, 611. Melbourne (Unimproved Rating Poll) Questions on Notice-Member contending Bill, 477. Local Government (St. Kilda question not answered, 1361. Provision and Elwood Land Reclamation) Bill, of information not immediately avail 756. Municipal Association (Accident able, 2404. Insurance) Bill, 1073. Melbourne Senator, Election of-Message re vacancy Sailors' Home Bill, 2195. Shell Pipe in representation of Victoria in the lines Bill, 2262. Senate through death of Senator H. W. Chairman of Committees, Temporary Wade, 1944. Election of Mr. J. J. Appoin tmen ts, 8. Webster, 2379. Joint sitting of both Close of Sessional Period, 2566. Council and Assembly, 2488, 2489, 2490, Consolidated Revenue Bills-Scope of 2491. second-reading debate, 1487. South-Eastern Province-Election of Mr. Constitution Act Amendment (Respon I. R. Cathie, 875. sible Ministers) Bill, The-Passage by Title " Honorable "-Retention by Mr. D. absolute majority, 14. J. Walters and Mr. A. Smith, 481. Consumers Protection Bill-Procedure to resolve disagreement with Assembly, Princes Highway. (See " Country Roads 2386, 2387, 2388, 2538. Board.") Death-The Hon. W. P. Mair, 135. Printing Committee-Appointment, 6. Debate-Ambit of discussion on motion Prisons Division-Escapes from Langi Kai for adjournment of House at close of Kal Training Centre, (qn.) 408. Num sitting, 783. Scope of debate on motion ber of prisoners, (qns.) 2846. Terms for adjournment of House, 879, 880. of imprisonment, (qn.) 2846. Cost per Interjections, 1043, 2182. Member re head, (qn.) 2846. Cost of staff and up ferring to another member as a keep of prisons, ( qn.) 2846. Escapes political liar, 1048. Use of expression from custody, (qn.) 2846. Pentridge objected to, 1744. Relevancy of re Gaol staff, (qn.) 3324. marks, 1745, 216·2, 2536. Repetition, 2284. Reference to debate in other Privilege of Parliament - Observance of House, 2365, 3936. Procedure in deal Standing Orders re suspension of sit ing with motion before the Chair and tings, 4738. submission of another motion, 2391. Probate. (See " Administration and Probate Accuracy of member's statement, 2561. (Small Estates) Bill" and "Trustee Member seeking call during putting of Companies (Affidavits) Bill.") motion, 2874. Use of word " intoxi Property Law (Loans to Minors) Bill cated," 2874. Reference to strangers, Received from Assembly and first read 2889. ing, 3346; second reading, 3444, 4071; Housing (Amendment) Bill-Procedure Committee and remaining stages, 4072. on move to have Bill referred to Public Lands and Works Bill-Received Statute Law Revision Committee for from Assembly and first reading, 1484; examination and report, 2391. second reading, 1641, 2516; Committee, Librarian-Death of Mr. F. J. Perry, 2708, 2519; remaining stages, 2520. 2710. Public Works Committee-Appointment of Local Government (Councillors' Declara Council members, 7, 229. tions) Bill-Clerical error, 410. Public Works Loan Application Bill Members-Swearing in of members Received from Assembly and first read following periodical election, 2. New ing, 1357; second reading, 1460, 1648; member introduced and sworn: Mr. Committee, 1655, 1844; remaining Cathie for South-Eastern Province, 875. stages, 1853. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL, (35)

Q. Railway Department-continued. Queen Victoria Market-Fidelity bonds for Land-Use of Newport land by Mobil Oil merchants and agents, (qn.) 1547. In Australia Ltd., (qn.) 407, 757. Drain solvencies, (qn.) 1547. Proposed legis age of land at Brooklyn, 632, 1071, lation, (qn.) 1547. (See also "Farm 1072. Produce Merchants and Commission Level Crossings-Collisions between cars Agents Bill.") and trains, 645. Fatal accidents on Question of Privilege-Observance of South Gippsland Highway, (qn.), 1032, Standing Orders re suspension of sit 1073. tings, 4739. Oil Supplies-Delivery by Mobil Oil Aus tralia Ltd., ( qn.) 757. Permanent Way-Weights and sizes of R. rails and sleepers used on standard gauge and other lines, (qn.) 609. Racing (Amendment) Bill-Received from Rolling-stock-Suggested use of reflectors Assembly and first reading, 2026; second on goods wagons, (qn.) 1032. Painting reading, 2140, 2411; Committee, 2413; of carriages, 1070, 1072. Trucks fitted remaining stages, 2414. with W-guards, ( qn.) 3325. Railway Department- Staff - Salary increases, ( qn.) 1033, Accidents-Shunting accidents, ( qn.) 4657, 4726. Shunters and yard assis 1640, (qn.) 1719. tants, (qn.) 1640. Administration-Compliance with Rail Standard Gauge Line--Stopping of trains ways Act re fares, charges and condi at intermediate stations, 633. tions, 646. Reports under section 135 Stations-Works at Kaniva and Diapur, of Railways Act, (qn.) 876. (qn.) 1033. Lighting of suburban Bridges and Over-passes - Demolition of stations, 1070. Manning of metropoli Brighton-street bridge, Richmond, (qn.) tan stations, 1070, 1072, (qn.) 1821, 3093. Repairs to Dudley-street bridge, 4722. Cleanliness of Spencer-street (qn.) 3422. Proposed over-pass at station, 4725. Spotswood, (qn.) 4345, (qn.) 4514, Suburban Lines-Proposed Port Mel 4724. bourne spur line, (qn.) 477. Sunshine Newport loop line, 1071, 1072. Claims-Payment for goods damaged in Tullamarine Jetport-Construction of rail transit, (qn.) 477, (qn.) 758. link, (qn.) 1545, (qn.) 4654, 4724. Country Lines - Frankston-Mornington (See also " Altona Railway Extension line, 969. Lilydale-Warburton line, Bill," "Decentralization" and "Glenroy (qn.) 2013. Co-ordination of road and to Tullamarine Railway Construction rail services in Mansfield-Marysville Bill.") N arbethong areas, (qn.) 4027. Heales ville line, (qn.) 4027. Railway Loan Application Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 1259; Derailments-Incidence, 633, 876, 1071, second reading, 1369, 1570; remaining 1072, ( qn.) 3325. Reports under sec stages, 1581. tion 135 of the Railways Act, (qn.) 876. Railways (Funds) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 1820; second Fares-Increases, 136, 1035, 1039, 1041, reading, 1908, 2407; Committee, 2410; 1045, 1047, 1050, 1053, 1061, 1062. third reading, 2410. Concessions for children and students, (qn.) 1030. Railways (Long Service Leave) Bill Received from Assembly and first read Freights-Increases, 136, 506, 1035, 1039, ing, 1073; second reading, 1269, 1555; 1041, 1047, 1050, 1053, 1061. Rates for Committee, 1557; remaining stages, petroleum products, ( qn.) 758. Trans 1559. port and storage of wool, 1071, 1072. Wheat harvest, 1486. Loss of revenue Reid Murray Holdings Finance Ltd. (See through industries being declared under "Companies Act.") Commercial Goods Vehicles Act, (qn.) Residence Area Titles-Commonwealth 3325. housing grants, ( qn.) 1718. (36) INDEX.

Restrictive Trade Practices. (See Scallops. (See "Fisheries and Wildlife " Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Department.'') Practices.") Scholarships. (See " Education " and

Retired Police Association-Consideration IC Education Department.") of requests to Government, (qn.) 2715. School Committees. (See " Education De

Revocation and Excision of Crown Reserva partment" and IC Education (School tions Bill-Received from Assembly Committees) Bill.") and first reading, 623; second reading, School Crossings. (See " Education 763, 1564; Committee and remaining Department" and IC Traffic Commis stages, 1567. sion.") Ring Road. (See " Melbourne and Metro Science. (See "Education.") politan Board of Works " and IC Mel bourne and Metropolitan Board of Scientology-Cost of Board of Inquiry, Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill.") (qn.) 289, 1038. Road Accidents-Fatalities on Hume High Scientology Restriction Bill-Introduction way, 638. Collisions between cars and and first reading, 480. trains, 645. Colour factor in road Secondary Industries-Industries estab

accidents, 1720. (See also IC Breath lished and closed down outside metro alyzer" and "No-Doz Awakeners.") politan area in 1963-64, and number of Roads. (See "Country Roads (Amend employees affected, (qn.) 288. Ramifi cations of Imperial Chemical Industries ment) Bill," IC Country Roads Board," " Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of of Australia and New Zealand Limited, 641. Works " and IC Municipalities.") Roads (Special Projects) Bill-Received Security Guards, Private. (See " Police from Assembly and first reading, 4270; Department.") second reading, 4345, 4526; Committee, Seed Certification. (See " Department of 4542, 4693; third reading, 4697. Agriculture.") Road Traffic-Compliance of Herald Senator, Election of-Messages re vacancy vehicles with city traffic regulations, in representation of Victoria in the (qn.) 478, 635. Provision of more Senate through death of Senator H. W. police mobile patrols, 639. Policing of Wade, 1902, 1944. Election, at joint road transport operators, (qn.) 1030. sitting of Council and Assembly, of Mr. Peak hour clearways, ( qn.) 3325. Re J. J. Webster announced, 2379. Report view of road traffic regulations, 4708. of proceedings of joint sitting, 2488. (See also IC Metropolitan Transportation Sewerage-Discharge into sea of effluent Committee.") from Korumburra and Leongatha, ( qn.) Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill-Intro 3419. Requirements for Geelong, Bal-· duction and first reading, 3610; second larat, Werribee, Bacchus Marsh, reading, 3612, 3914; Committee, 3921; Latrobe Valley, Mornington Peninsula, third reading, 3931. W angaratta, Shepparton, Benalla, Rubbish Tips. (See "Municipalities.") Wodonga and Portland, (qn.) 4652. (See also IC Melbourne and Metropoli Rural Finance and Settlement Commission tan Board of Works.") -Housing finance, 643. Rural Finance and Settlement Commission Sewerage Districts Bill-Received from Bill-Introduction and first reading, Assembly and first reading, 875; second 3328; second reading, 3434, 3618; Com reading, 947, 1295; Committee, 1296, mittee and remaining stages, 3619. 1372; remaining stages, 1374. Sharebrokers-Acting as company direc s. tors, 509. Safety Belts. (See "Motor Vehicles.") Shell Pipelines Bill-Received from Sale of Land Bill-Received from Assembly Assembly, 2262; declared a private Bill, and first reading, 3775; second reading, 2262; motion that Bill be dealt with as 3858, 4172; Committee, 4176; remaining a public Bill, except in relation to fees, stages, 4177. agreed to, 2262; first reading, 2262; LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. (37)

Shell Pipelines Bill-continued. Social Welfare (Trainees) Bill-Introduc second reading, 2356; plan of proposed tion and first reading, 5; second read route of pipe-line laid before House, ing, 230, 618; Committee, 621, 1569; 2411; second-reading debate resumed, remaining stages, 1570. 2520; Committee, 2524, 2550; remaining Soil Conservation Authority-Advice to stages, 2552. landholders on farm water supplies, Shipping. (See " Marine (Amendment) (qn.) 4219. Bill.") Soil Conservation (Water Resources) Bill Shop Trading Hours. (See " Labour and Received from Assembly and first read Industry (Amendment) Bill.") ing, 3355; second reading, 3446, 4044; Committee, 4051; remaining stages, Shot-guns. (See "Statute Law Revision 4053. Committee.") Solicitors' Guarantee Fund. (See "Legal Sirex Wasp. (See "Forests Commission.") Profession Practice (Amendment) Ski Tows. (See "Falls Creek Ski Village.") Bill.") Snapper. (See "Fisheries and Wildlife South-Eastern Province-Death of Mr. Department.") W. P. Mair, 131. Issue of writ for election of new member, 135. Elec tion of Mr. I. R. Cathie, 875. Snider, Hon. B. D. (Higinbotham Province). South Melbourne (Unimproved Rating Poll) Address-in-Reply, 507. Bill-Received from Assembly, 477; Companies-Problems of auditors, 508. declared a private Bill, 477; motion Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 4), 4709. that Bill be dealt with as public Bill Constitution Act Amendment (Subordi- agreed to, 477; first reading, 477; nate Legislation Committee) Bill, The, second reading, 495; Committee and re 3853. maining stages, 497. Consumers Protection Bill, 2177. Estate Agents Bill, 2158. Staggered Hours of Employment-Sug Medical (Amendment) Bill, 1831, 1842. gested introduction, (qn.) 3714. Medical Practitioners-Registration of Stamps Bill-Received from Assembly and doctors with foreign degrees, 1360. first reading, 1853; second reading, Pesticides Bill, 955, 956. 1909, 2249; Committee, 2257, 2281; re Point of Order-Relevancy of Standing maining stages, 2282. Orders quoted, 4739. Police Department-Strength of Force, Stamps Bill (No. 2)-Received from 4709. Use of lethal weapons by private Assembly and first reading, 4053; security guards and night watchmen, second reading, 4156, 4225; remaining 4710. stages, 4226. Sharebrokers-Acting as company direc Stamps (Motor Car) Bill-Received from tors, 509. Assembly and first reading, 1400; Subordinate Legislation Committee second reading, 1478, 2047; remaining Report presented: Cranes Regulations, stages, 2052. 2243. Swine Compensation Bill, 2047. Standing Orders. (See " Business of the Taxation-Proposed State income tax, House.") 508. Standing Orders Committee-Appointment of members, 6. Stanhill Development Finance Ltd. Social Welfare Branch-Financial provision, Activities, 410. (See also "Companies 1489. Family welfare centre at Ballarat, Act.") (qn.) 1903. Social worker groups, 4712. (See also "Maintenance Bill.") State Development-Gippsland's resources, Social Welfare (Cadetships) Bill-Received 237. Increase of population, revenue from Assembly and first reading, 2710; and expenditure, 1277. second reading, 2887, 2965; Committee, State Development Committee-Appoint 2968; remaining stages, 2969. ment of Council members, 7. (38) INDEX.

State Electricity Commission-Newport State Rivers and Water Supply Commission power house, (qn.) 288. Development -continued. of generating system, ( qn.) 288. Effect (qn.) 2842, (qn.) 2946, (qn.) 3094. of automation, 634. Possible inter Towns supplied by underground water, connexion of Victorian and South Aus (qn.) 2946. tralian electricity systems, (qn.) 2946. (See also "'Water Bill," "Water (Recrea Transformer equipment, (qn.) 3092. tional Areas) Bill," "Water Supply" Connexions at Nanneela South and and "Water Supply Loan Application Timmering, (qn.) 3092, 3139. Falls Bill.") Creek ski village, (qn.) 3322, (qn.) 3419. Ski tows at Mount Buller, State Savings Bank-Insurance on houses (qn.) 3322. Increased power charges, financed by bank, (qn.) 3421. (qn.) 3421. Statute Law Revision Committee-Appoint State Electricity Commission (Contribu men t of Council members, 6. Reports tions) Bill-Received from Assembly presented: Use of shot-guns, 136; Evi and first reading, 2138; second reading, dence Act, 136; Public Lands and 2194, 2363; Committee, 2368; remaining Works Bill, 760; Local Government Act, stages, 2371. 2492; Transfer of Land (Removal of Caveats) Bill, 2606; Vagrancy Bill, State Film Centre-Availability of film 3328; coronial inquiries and committal library, 4706. proceedings, 4345. State Forests Loan Application Bill Received from Assembly and first read Stock Foods (Amendment) Bill-Introduc· tion and first reading, 760; second read ing, 646; second reading, 769, 1380; ing, 776, 1560; Committee, 1562, 1944; Committee, 1388; remaining stages, 1390. remaining stages, 1946. State Insurance Funds Bill-Received from Subordinate Legislation (Amendment) Bfil Assembly and first reading, 229; second ~Received from Assembly and first reading, 236, 311; remaining stages, reading, 3731; second reading, 3863, 312. 4030; Committee, 4031; remaining stages, 4032. State Rivers and Water Supply Com mission- Subordinate Legislation Committee- Chowilla Dam-Construction, ( qn.) 2946. Appointment of Council members, 6. Farm Water Supplies-Advice to land Reports presented: Cranes Regulations, holders, (qn.) 4219. 2243; Labour and Industry (Explosive powered Tools) Regulations, 3095. (See Finance-Rates in Dromana-Portsea dis also " Constitution Act Amendment trict, 4277. (Subordinate Legislation Committee) Goulburn River-Diversion of course, Bill, The.") (qn.) 2838. Irrigation-Drainage problems, 242. Cam Sunday Films. (See " Theatres (Sunday paspe irrigation district, ( qn.) 478, Films) Bill.") ( qn.) 609. Rochester irrigation district, Superannuation. (See "Country Roads (qn.) 609. Funds allocated and spent (Amendment) Bill," " General Sessions on water storages, ( qn.) 1358. (Pensions of Chairmen) Bill," "Local Charges, ( qn.) 1822. Irrigation office at Authorities Superannuation (Amend Tatura, (qn.) 2403. Water conservation ment) Bill" and "Police Pensions in Bunyip-Tarago district, 4723. Fund.") Land Acquisition-Payment of compensa Superannuation (Time for Election) Bill tion, 2558, 4720. Received from Assembly and first read Mount Eliza Service Reservoir-Payment ing, 1943; second reading, 2026, 2262; of compensation, ( qn.) 479, ( qn.) 2847, remaining stages, 2262. (qn.) 4025. Sta.ff-Retrenchments, (qn.) 478. Superphosphate-Price, 641. Water Supplies-Funds allocated and Surveyors. (See " Building Surveyors," spent on storages for town supplies, " Cadet Surveyors Bill " and " Munici (qn.) 1358. Kyneton water supply, palities.") LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. (39)

Swans-Destruction during open season, Swinburne, Hon. I. A.----continued. (qn.) 2715. (See also "Game (Black Justices (Registration) Bill, 3477. Swans) Bill.") Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, Swift Australian Company (Proprietary) 3772. Limited. (See " Victorian Inland Labour and Industry (Long Service Meat Authority.") Leave) Bill, 2281. Land Acquisition-Payment of compensation, 4720. Swinburne, Hon. I. A. (North-Eastern Pro- Licensing (Dining Permits) Bill, 2415. vince). Marine (Amendment) Bill, 2277. Address-in-Reply, 503. Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Board-Increased fares, 161. Agricultural Colleges Bill, 963. Members--Overseas visits, 3868. Appropriation Bill, 2558. Metropolitan Fire Brigades (Long Service Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 2), 1052. Leave) Bill, 483. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 4), 4720. National Parks (Amendment) Bill, 2053, Consumers Protection Bill, 2163, 2382, 2057. 2561. National Parks (Amendment) Bill (No. 2), 4377, 4393. Country Fire Authority Bill, 3933. Pesticides Bill, 955, 957. Country Fire Authority (Borrowing Police Offences (Betting Information) Powers) Bill, 487, 493. Bill, 2264. Country Roads (Amendment) Bill, 1559. Property Law (Loans to Minors) Bill, Decentralization-Proposed advisory com 4071. mit1Jee, 505. Implementation of report Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1844. of Distribution of Population Commit Railway Department-Increased fares and tee, 505. freights, 161, 506. Derailments, 885. Electoral Provinces and Districts Bill, Railways (Long Service Leave) Bill, 1556, 4247. 1559. Roads (Special Projects) Bill, 4531. Falls Creek Ski Village-Alpine Develop Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 3916, ments (Ski Tows) Pty. Ltd., 3323. 3927, 3928. Vacant ski-tow sites, 3323. State Forests Loan Application Bill, 1385. Fares, Freights and Hospital Charges. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis Effect of increases, 161, 1052. sion-Compensation for land acquired Farm Produce Merchants and Commis for water storages, 2558, 4720. sion Agents Bill, 4172. Superannuation (Time for Election) Bill, Forests (Amendment) Bill, 2360. 2262. Taxation-Proposed State income tax, Governor, His Excellency Major-General Sir Rohan Delacombe, K.C.M.G., K.B.E., 506. Tobacco Industry-Blue mould, 1956. C.B., D.S.O., Kt.St.J. - Service to Veterinary Surgeons (Amendment) Bill, State, 503. 4735. Home Finance (Amendment) Bill, 3621. Water (Recreational Areas) Bill, 2416. Hospitals-Increased charges, 161. Housing-Number of co-operative housing societies formed and funds pro Swine (Amendment) Bill-Received from vided, 2840. Number and value of Assembly and first reading, 2710; loans granted by Home Finance Trust, second reading, 2730, 2964; remaining 2845. stages, 2965. Housing (Amendment) Bill, 2391. Swine Compensation Bill-Received from Housing Commission-Sale of homes, 504. Assembly and first reading, 1638; Houses for rental, 504. Expenditure on second reading, 1728, 2046; remaining slum reclamation, 1820. Number of stages, 2047. units constructed, 1820. Expenditure Swine Compensation Fund-Payments, on land and buildings, 1820. (qn.) 1903. (40) INDEX.

T. Thom, Hon. G. W~-continued. Tattersall Consultations-Payments to Parliament-Maintenance of State's sove hospitals and charitable institutions, reignty, 1277. (qn.) 1034. Parliament House-Facilities for mem Tattersall Consultations (Jackpot Consulta· bers, 1280. tions) Bill-Received from Assembly Personal Explanation-" Braddon's Blot," and first reading, 1943; second reading, 1361. 2064, 2180; remaining stages, 2181. Revocation and Excision of Crown Reser vations Bill, 1566. Taxation- Roads (Special Projects) Bill, 4536. Income True-Proposed State tax, 138, Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 3928, 146, 239, 506, 508, 1035, 1037, 1041, 3931. 1047, 1058, 1060, 1064. Shell Pipelines Bill, 2524. Land True. (See "Land Tax (Rates and State Development-Increase in popula Exemptions) Bill.") tion, revenue and expenditure, 1277. Uniform Taxation-Reimbursements to Teaching Service (Amendment) Bill, 3627. Victoria, 144, 1042, 1049. Traffic Commission-Suggested review of Teachers Tribunal-Salary claims, (qn.) road traffic regulations, 4708. 1638. Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4688. Teaching Service (Amendment) Bill-Intro duction and first reading, 3329; second Thompson, Hon. L. H. S. (Higinbotham reading, 3440, 3624; Committee, 3628; Province). remaining stages, 3631. Assembly amendment dealt with, 4734. Aborigines (Amendment) Bill, 3713, 3854, 4086, 4089, 4090. Theatres (Sunday Films) Bill-Received Aborigines Welfare Board-Provision of from Assembly and first reading, 2159; housing, 1823. second reading, 2181, 2371; Committee, Agriculture, Department of-Resignations 2378; remaining stages, 2379. of professional officers, 408. Filling of vacancies, 408. Altona Railway Extension Bill, 2878, 2953, Thom, Hon. G. W. (South-Western Pro 3351, 3352. vince). Apprenticeship Commission-Staff, regis Address-in-Reply, 1277. tration of apprentices, proficiency cer Companies-Improper and fraudulent tificate and travel and living subsidies, activities, 421. 608. Companies (Amendment) Bill, 3114. Appropriation Bill, 2389, 2406, 2560. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 2), 1059. Basic Wage-Increase, 1041. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 4), 4708. Boards and Commissions of Inquiry Co-operative Housing Societies (Indemni- Governmen t and Parliamentary respon ties) Bill, 2508. sibilities, 2865. Death-The Hon. W. P. Mair, 134. Boats-Registrations with Fisheries and Estate Agents Bill, 2156, 2158. Wildlife Department, Transport Regula Geelong (Kardinia Park) Land Bill, 3737. tion Board and Marine Board, 2402. Housing-Percentage of privately-owned Breathalyzer-Number of units in opera homes, 1279. tion, 1822 Number of tests carried out Housing Commission-Construction of and results, 1822. flats, 1279. Business of the House-Days and hours Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, of meeting, 7, 1296, 1548, 1823, 2014. 3757. Order of business, 7. New business, 7, Local Government (Councillors' Declara 1904. Adjournment to day and hour to tions) Bill, 300. be fixed by President, 17, 2563. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Chairman of Committees-Election of Mr. Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 3471. Garrett, 7. Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Close of Sessional Period, 2563, 2566. Board-Suggested re-organization of Commonwealth-State Finance-Victorian tram and bus services, 1279. and Commonwealth debts, 2560. LEGISLATIVE .COUNCIL. (41)

Thompson, Hon. L. H. S.-continued. Thompson, Hon. L. H. S.-continued. school at Strath Park, 1459. Class Companies-Cabinet Ministers holding rooms, 1547. Doveton West State directorships of public companies, 2014. School, 1640. Number of, enrolments Companies Act-Report of inspector into at, and teachers engaged in primary affairs of Stanhill Development Fin and secondary schools in 1963-64, 1903. ance Ltd. and other companies, 290. Trainee teachers, 1903. Stawell Tech Consolidated Revenue Bill, '15. nical School, 2014. Bemm River school, Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 2), 939, 2138. Acquisition of site for high 1034, 1041, 1072. school in South Melbourne, 2401. Lake Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 3), 947, Goldsmith school building, 2401. Girls' 1261, 1490. secondary school building in Hope Consumers Protection Bill, 2388. street, Ballarat, 2401. Co-operative Housing Societies (Indemni Education (School Committees) Bill, ties) Bill, 2026, 2139, 2509, 2510. 2052, 2183, 2427. Country Fire Authority-Allocation of Essendon Aerodrome-Aircraft engine mobile fire units to rural brigades, 1032. testing pits, 1361, 1459. Country Fire Authority Bill, 3418, 3610, Estate Agents Bill, 1717, 1824, 1825, 2156, 3940. 2158. Country Roads Board-Grants to country Explosives-Compliance of Government municipalities, 479. Fines imposed on Departments with safety regulations, transport operators, 1030. Use of 1072. reflectors on guide posts, 1032. Tulla Explosives Reserve at Altona - Proposed marine Freeway, 1361. Allocation and use of land for penal settlement, 1072. expenditure of funds, 1638. Duplication Fares, Freights and Hospital Charges of Western Highway, 1720. Widening Effect of increases, 141, 1041. of Korumburra-Leongatha road, 1902. Fisheries and Wildlife Department-Moor Construction of Darebin creek bridge, ing fees for professional fishing boats, 1902. Replacement of Maribyrnong 2402. Boats registered with Depart road bridge, 2012. ment, 2402. Dandenong Valley Authority-Definition Forests (Amendment) Bill, 2181, 2184, of district, 1458. 2360. Darebin Creek Bridge-Construction, Forests Commission - Revenue, 876. 1902. Eradication of sirex wasp, 1260. Licences for timber extraction from Death-The Hon. W. P. Mair, 131, 135. Errinundra plateau, 3421. Disposal of Uncollected Goods (Damaged Geelong (Kardinia Park) Land Bill, 3609, Motor Cars) Bill, 631, 773, 1569. 3735, 3738. Dog-racing - Revenue from totalizator Government Departments-Use of local payments and entertainments tax, 1260. materials in country districts, 757. Revenue from bookmakers' turnover Government House-£onstruction of tax, 1261. swimming pool, 2243. Education Department-Expenditure, 143, Grain Elevators (Borrowing) Bill, 287. 1903, 2011. High schools in Richmond Hazelwood - Change of name to and Prahran, 289, 1072. Enrolments in Churchill, 2713. primary and secondary schools of pupils Herald and Weekly Times Limited aged fourteen years and over in Permit for carriage of newsprint, 480. 1963-64, 289. Charges for gas and Home Finance (Amendment) Bill, 3328, electricity used by canteen committees, 3424. 410, 1547. Oral schools for the deaf at Ballarat and Bendigo, 605. Enrolments Horse-racing - Revenue from book- at and maximum capacity of high, makers' turnover tax, 1261. Revenue technical and girls' secondary schools from totalizator at 1964 Flemington in northern metropolitan districts, 1031, spring racing carnival, 1360. 1357. New schools built, 1044. Diploma Hospitals-Increased charges, 141. class at Wonthaggi Technical School, House Committee-Appointment of Coun 1459. Development of site for high cil members, 6. (42) INDEX.

Thompson, Hon. L. H. S.-continued. Thompson, Hon. L. H. S.-continued. Housing-Home Finance Trust: Second Labour and Industry (Long Service mortgage loans, 760; number and value Leave) Bill, 1762, 1904. of loans granted, 2845. Stratum titles, Land (Plantation Areas) Act-Areas (qn.) 2402. taken up, 1717. Housing (Amendment) Bill, 2033, 2144, Land Settlement-Rochester project, 1719. 2391, 2396, 2398, 2399, 2400. Land Tax (Rates and Exemptions) Bill, Housing Commission-Price of Newport 1478, 1550, 2063. land purchased from Department of the Library Committee-Appointment of Interior, 289. Sale of homes, 409, 1459, Council members, 6. 3610. Construction of homes at Liquor Industry--Cost of Royal Commis Rochester, 479, 1904. Applications for sion, 289. tenancies, 479, 1546, 2848, 3093. Darby Maribyrnong-road Bridge-Replacement, and Joan and lone person units, 479, 2012. 1360, 2848. Construction costs and sale Mccrae Foreshore-Use of area as car prices of brick veneer and concrete park, 1360. homes in Broadmeadows and Fawkner Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of estates, 607, 610, 756, 875. Survey of Works - Revenue from improvement applicants for houses and flats, 607, rate, 1719. 2943. South Melbourne reclamation Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways scheme, 756. Use of Traralgon bricks, Board-Increased fares, 141. Age of 757. Home Ownership Advisory trams, 407. Provision and cost of riew Bureau, 758, 2947. Employment of trams, 407. Construction of bus bodies, social welfare officers, 1072, 2942. Sale 408, 610. Renewal of track in Swan of land, 1459. Dwellings vacated, 1546. street, Richmond, 1260. Evictions, 1546. Expenditure on slum Melbourne Harbor Trust-Fire-fighting reclamation, 1820, 2943. Number of equipment on tugs, 1545. units constructed, 1820. Expenditure Melbourne Sailors' Home Bill, 2195. on land and buildings, 1820. Houses Members-Congratulations to new mem provided for aborigines, 1823. Terrace bers, 5. Leave of absence for Mr. housing, 2012, 2138. Olympic Village, Chandler, 7, 229, 2563. Heidelberg, 2138. Applications for Metropolitan Fire Brigades (Long Service homes in Boort and Pyramid Hill, 2403. Leave) Bill, 287, 295, 483. Applicants with large families, 2403, Ministry-Reconstitution, 5. Ministers 2404, 2717. Rental rebate formula, holding directorships of public com 2403, 2717. Sale of homes under panies, 2014. Housing (Contracts with Minors) Act, 2943. Cost of land, roads and foot Monash University (Amendment) Bill, paths in respect of Pines Forest, Dove 1944, 2028, 2418. ton, Broadmeadows and Laverton Motor Car (Fines and Drivers' Licence estates, 3420. Agents' commission on Fees) Bill, 1400, 1468, 1831, 1843, 1844. sale of homes, 3420. Estates with play Motor Vehicles-Stolen dars, 1029. ground equipment and numbers of Number registered and revenue from people accommodated, 3421. Cost of fees, 1030. Safety belts, 1361, 1459. concrete houses, 3609. Holmesglen Colour factor in road accidents, 1720. concrete housing project, 3610, 3713. Unroadworthy vehicles, 3639. Rental of houses, 3610. Priority of Newport Oil Vlharves-Outbreak of fire, accommodation for de_serted wives and 1547. children, 4746. Parliamentary Salaries Pensions and Immigration-Victorian intake, 290, 1043. Superannuation Bill, 2380, 2404. Nationalities of migrants, 290. Justices (Complaints and Summonses) Personal Explanation-Pair for member, Bill, 230, 233, 298, 299, 494, 495, 953. 228. Justices (Registration) Bill, 3087, 3329, Petrol Trading Hours-Fines for breaches. 3478. 2242. Labour and Industry (Fees) Bill, 1944, Point of Order-Proposed free conference 2027, 2193. with Assembly, 2388. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. (43)

Thompson, Hon. L. H. S.-continued. Thompson, Hon. L. H. S.-continued. Police Department-Personnel at Ascot Residence Area Titles - Commonwealth Vale, Moonee Ponds, Essendon and housing grants, 1718. Glenroy, 1904. Police pensions fund, Revocation and Excision of Crown Reser 2240. vations Bill, 623, 763, 1567. Political Parties-Agreement between Road Traffic-Compliance of Herald Liberal and Country Party and Country vehicles with city traffic regulations, Party, 2012. 478. Policing of transport operators, Port Phillip Bay-Suggested establish 1030. ment of single port authority, 1718. Scientology-Cost of Board of Inquiry, President-Illness of Sir Gordon 289. McArthur, 4. Senate Vacancy-Message re vacancy in Printing Committee-Appointment, 6. representation of Victoria in the Senate Prisons Division-Escapes from Langi Kal through death of Senator H. W. Wade, Kal Training Centre, 408. 1902. Property Law (Loans to Minors) Bill, Social Welfare Branch-Family welfare 3346, 3444, 4072. centre at Ballarat, 1903. Public Works Committee-Appointment Social Welfare (Cadetships) Bill, 2710, of Council members, 7, 229. 2887, 2968, 2969. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1357, Social Welfare {Trainees) Bill, 5, 230, 1460, 1655, 1844, 1846. 621, 622, 1569. Stamps (Motor Car) Bill, 1400, 1478. Railway Department-Increased fares and Standing Orders Committee-Appoint freights, 141. Use of Newport land by ment, 6. Mobil Oil Australia Limited, 407, 758. State Development Committee-Appoint Proposed Port Melbourne spur line, 477. ment of Council members, 7. Payment of claims for damaged goods State Electricity Commission - Newport arising from derailments, 478, 758. power house, 288. Development of Weights and sizes of rails and sleepers generating system, 288. used on standard gauge and other lines, State Forests Loan Application Bill, 646, 609. Compliance with Railways Act re 769, 1388. fares, charges and conditions, 647. State Insurance Funds Bill, 229, 236. Delivery of furnace oil for Mobil Oil State Rivers and Water Supply Commis Australia Limited, 758. Freight rates sion-Staff retrenchments, 478. Cam for petroleum products, 758. Reports paspe irrigation district, 478, 609. on accidents under section 135 of Rail Mount Eliza service reservoir, 479. ways Act, 876. Derailments, 879. 609. Concessional fares for children and Rochester irrigation district, students, 1031. Suggested use of Funds allocated and spent on storages for town supplies and irrigation, 1358. reflectors on goods wagons, 1032. Irrigation charges, 1822. Irrigation Fatalities at level crossings on South Gippsland Highway, 1032, 1073. Salary office at Tatura, 2403. increases, 1033. Works at Kaniva and Statute Law Revision Committee-Ap Diapur, 1033. Sunshine-Newport loop pointment of Council members, 6. line, 1072. Drainage of Brooklyn land, Subordinate Legislation Committee-Ap 1072. Painting of railway carriages, pointment of Council members, 6. 1072. Manning of metropolitan Superannuation (Time for Election) Bill, 1943, 2026. stations, 1072, 1821. Storage and cartage of wool, 1072. Shunters and Taxation-Uniform taxation, 144, 1042. yard assistants, 1640. Shunting Proposed State income tax, 146, 1041. accidents, 1640, 1719. Lilydale- Teachers Tribunal-Salary claims, 1638. Warburton line, 2013. Teaching Service (Amendment) Bill, Railway Loan Application Bill, 1259, 1369. 3329, 3440, 3628, 4734. Railways (Funds) Bill, 1820, 1908, 2410, Townships-Naming of, 2713. 2411. Transport Regulation Board-Fines im Railways (Long Service Leave) Bill, 1073, posed on transport operators, 1030. 1269, 1557. Issue of licences, 1639. (44) INDEX.

Thompson, Hon. L. H. S.-continued. Todd, Hon. Archibald-continued. Tullamarine Jetport--Construction of rail Education Department - Maintenance of link, 1545. Provision of freeway, 1546. schools, 1051. Proposed high school in Date of opening, 1546. South Melbourne, 2401, 4219, 4706, Valuation of Land (Amendment) Bill, 4713. 4399. Electoral Provinces and Districts Bill, Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4408, 4064, 4071, 4239, 4249, 4251, 4258. 4515, 4683, 4689, 4690, 469,3. Estate Agents Bill, 1825, 2152, 2157. Workers Compensation (Amendment) Explosives Reserve at Altona-Suggested Bill, 4744. use of land for penal centre, 1068. Workers Compensation Board-Delay in Fares, Freights and Hospital Charges hearing cases, 1072. Effect of increases, 156, 1047. Farm Produce Merchants and Commis- sion Agents Bill, 3959, 4164, 4171. Timber-Importations, 238. Forests {Amendment) Bill, 2358. Title "Honorable "-Announcement by Forests Commission-Revenue, 876. President of the Queen's approval of Geelong (Kardinia Park) Land Bill, 3736. retention of title " Honorable " by Mr. Hospitals-Increased charges, 156. D. J. Walters and Mr. A Smith, 481. Housing Commission - South Melbourne reclamation project, 756. Suggested Tobacco Industry-Blue mould, 1956. appointment of social welfare officers, 1067. Terrace housing, 2012. Priority of accommodation for deserted wives Todd, Hon. Archibald (Melbourne West and children, 4746. Province). Juries (Women Jurors) Bill, 1655, 1857. Administration and Probate (Small Es Justices (Complaints and Summonses) tates) Bill, 233, 307, 624, 626. Bill, 298. Appeal Costs Fund (Amendment) Bill, Justices (Registration) Bill, 3474. 3331. Labour and Industry (Fees) Bill, 2193. Basic Wage-Increase, 1052. La Trobe University Bill, 1757. Boards and Commissions of Inquiry Legal Aid (Costs) Bill, 3344. Govemment and Parliamentary respon Loan Funds-Use for revenue purposes, sibilities, 2868, 2874. 1052. Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill, Local Government (St. Kilda and Elwood 2362. Land Reclamation) Bill, 1374. Children's Court (Admission to Hearings) Maintenance Bill, 1269, 2034, 2045, 2610, Bill, 3633. 2612, 2616, 2618. Children's Court (Amendment) Bill, 301. Maintenance (Reciprocating State) Bill, Clean Air Act-Chemical emissions at 1492. Yarraville, 3140. Marine (Amendment) Bill, 2276. Companies (Amendment) Bill, 3115. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 2), 1047, Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 3461, 1048, 1067, 1068. 3471. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 4), 4706, Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways 4713. Board-Increased fares, 156, 1050. Age Consumers Protection Bill, 2172, 2177, of trams, 407. Provision and cost of 2562. new trams, 407, 2847. Construction of Country Fire Authority Bill, 3932. bus bodies, 408, 610. Bus services Country Fire Authority (Borrowing affecting North Fitzroy and Port Mel Powers) Bill, 485, 493. bourne depots, 3087. Resignations of Crimes (Amendment) Bill, 1390, 1397, employees, 3087. 1398, 1495. Crimes (Illegal Use of Motor Cars) Bill, Melbourne Sailors' Home Bill, 2499. 4039. Motor Car (Carriers' Identification Marks) Crimes (Parole) Bill, 4226. Bill, 2034. Debate-Withdrawal of statement ob Motor Car (Hours of Driving) Bill, 2542, jected to, 1048. 2547, 2548, 2549. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. (45)

Todd, Hon. Archibald-continued. Traffic Commission-School crossings: In Motor Vehicles-Stolen cars, 1029. Sunshine, 636; in Williamstown, 637; in National Parks Authority - Mallacoota Spotswood, 1488, 4706. Pedestrian National Park, 509, 782, 783. crossing at intersection of Spring and Points of Order-Use of word " intoxi Bourke streets, 3140. Suggested review cated," 2874. Reference to "electoral of road traffic regulations, 4708. (See skulduggery," 4064. also "Country Roads Board.") Property Law (Loans to Minors) Bill, Transfer of Land (Removal of Caveats) 4071, 4072. Bill-Received from Assembly and Railway Department-Increased fares and first reading, 2837; second reading, freights, 156, 1050. Proposed Port 2956, 3355; Committee, 3357; remaining Melbourne spur line, 477. stages, 3358. Roads (Special Projects) Bill, 4354, 4539, Transport, Public - Staggered hours of 4695. employment, (qn.) 3714. (See also Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 3919. " Melbourne and Metropolitan Tram Shell Pipelines Bill, 2522, 2525, 2551. ways Board " and " Railway Depart Social Welfare (Cadetships) Bill, 2967, ment.") 2969. Social Welfare (Trainees) Bill, 618, 622, Transport Regulation Board-Permits for 623. transport of school children, 636. South Melbourne (Unimproved Rating Policing of road transport operators, Poll) Bill, 497. ( qn.) 1030. Fines imposed under Acts and regulations, (qn.) 1030. Issue of Stamps (Motor Car) Bill, 2047. licences, ( qn.) 1639. State Electricity Commission-Increased power charges, 3421. State Forests Loan Application Bill, 1380. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis Tripovich, Hon. J. M. (Doutta Galla sion-Mount Eliza service reservoir, Province.) 479, 2847, 4025. Aborigines-Provision of housing, 1823. Taxation-Uniform taxation, 1049. Aborigines (Amendment) Bill, 4076, 4084. Wills (Minors') Bill, 2959. 4087. Address-in-Reply, 1288. Workers Compensation (Amendment) Agricultural Colleges Bill, 960, 966. Bill, 4744. Agricultural Education (Continuation) Bill, 3733. Tomato Processing Industry (Uniform Agriculture, Department of-Resignauon Agreement) Bill - Received from of professional officers, 408. Filling of Assembly and first reading, 2262; vacancies, 408. second reading, 2292, 2492; Committee Apprenticeship Commission-Staff, regis and remaining stages, 2495. tration of apprentices, proficiency cer Totalizator Agency Board-Staffing of tificate, and travel and living subsidies, agencies, 1488, 4708. Number of 608. branches and agencies, ( qn.) 2714. Appropriation Bill, 2557. Proposed agency in Burnley, (qn.) Arts and Cultural Centres-Government 4026. (See also "Racing (Amend subsidies, 3422. Provision of land, ment) Bill.") 3422. New Mildura centre, 3422. Totalizators-Payments to hospitals and Boards and Commissions of Inquiry charitable institutions from totalizator Government and Parliamentary respon funds, (qn.) 1034. sibilities, 2861. Breathalyzer-Number of testing units, Tourist Development Authority-Gippsland 1822. Number of tests carried out and attractions, 238. (See also "Labour results, 1822. and Industry (Amendment) Bill,") Building Surveyors-Examinations, 2944. "Mallacoota National Park" and Companies - Cabinet Ministers holding "Wilson's Promontory National Park.") directorships of public companies, 2014. Townships-Naming of, (qn.) 2713. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 2), 1056. (46) INDEX.

Tripovich, Hon. J. M.-continued. Tripovich, Hon. J. M.-continued. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 3), 1487. Fares, Freights and Hospital Charges Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 4), 4704, Effect of increases, 164, 1056. 4707, 4713, 4722, 4724. Glenroy to Tullamarine Railway Con Consumers Protection Bill, 2383. struction Bill, 4356. Co-operative Housing Societies (Indemni Government House - Construction of ties) Bill, 2504, 2509, 2510. swimming pool, 2243. Country Roads Board-Tullamarine Free Grain Elevators (Borrowing) Bill, 611, way, 1361, 2969, 3088. Replacement 618. of Maribyrnong-road bridge, 2012. Health (Child Minding) Act-Proclama Strathmore by-pass road, 3088. tion, 3321. Child Minding Committee, Crimes (Amendment) Bill, 1398. 3321. Crimes (Illegal Use of Motor Cars) Bill, Health, Department of-Child minding 4038, 4044. centres, 3324. Examination of school Decentralization - Freight concessions, children for vision defects, 4514. Quali 290. Industries approved under Com fications of optometrists, 4514. mercial Goods Vehicles Act, 1638, 1718, Home Finance (Amendment) Bill, 3619. 3091. Loss of rail revenue through in Hospitals-Increased charges, 164. Use dustries being declared under Commer of beds by patients injured in road and cial Goods Vehicles Act, 3325. industrial accidents, 1458. Building ex Education Department-Expenditure, 164, tensions at Royal Melbourne Hospital, 1903, 2011. Enrolments in primary and 2491. secondary schools of students aged Housing-Home Finance Trust: Second fourteen years and over in 1963-64, 289. mortgage loans, 760, 3094. Parkmore Charges for gas and electricity used by Property Trusts Uimited project at canteen committees, 410, 1547. Enrol Mount Waverley, 2557. Price of land, ments at and maximum capacity of 2557. Insurance on houses financed by high, technical and girls' secondary State Savings Bank, 3421. Survey of schools in northern metropolitan dis Victorian needs, 4722. tricts, 1031, 1357. Development of site Housing (Amendment) Bill, 2389, 2391, for high school at Strath Park, 1459, 2397, 2398, 2399. 1582. Class-rooms, 1547. Number of, Housing Commission-Sale of homes, 409, enrolments at, and teachers engaged in 1459. Construction costs and sale primary and secondary schools in prices of brick veneer and concrete 1963-64, 1903. Trainee teachers, 1903. homes in Broadmeadows and Fawkner Enrolments and additional buildings estates, 607, 610, 756, 757, 875. Home provided at high schools in Doutta Ownership Advisory Bureau, 758, 2947. Galla Province, 2716·. Enrolments and Sale of land, 1459. Houses provided additional buildings provided at Essen for aborigines, 1823. Olympic Village, don, Glenroy and Brunswick technical Heidelberg, 2138. Applicants with large schools, 2845. Monitoring of school families, 2403, 2404, 2717. Rental crossings by children, 4513, 4707. rebate formula, 2403, 2717. Darby and Electoral-Failure to vote at State elec Joan and lone person units, 2847. tions, 4026. Total electoral enrolments Applications for tenancies, 2847. Sales for Victoria compared with adult popu under Housing (Contracts with Minors) lation, 4026. Directions given to elec Act, 2943. Expenditure on slum toral commissioners and enrolments reclamation, 2943. Holmesglen concrete before and after 1937 Legislative housing project, 3713. Provision of Council redivision, 4219. homes for low-income earners, 4722. Electoral Provinces and Districts Bill, Immigration-Victorian intake in 1963-64, 4242, 4253, 4259. 290. Nationalities of migrants, 290. Essendon Aerodrome - Aircraft engine Kings Bridge-Repair, 1059. testing pits, 1361, 1459, 1582. Flight Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, paths, 2842, 2945. Excessive noise from 3741, 3768, 3771. jet aircraft, 2842, 2970. Labour and Industry (Long Service Estate Agents Bill, 2159. Leave) Bill, 2280. LEGISLATlV.E COUNCIL. (47)

Tripovich, Hon. J. M.-continued. Tripovich, Hon. J. M.-continued. Land Tax (Rates and Exemptions) Bill, rail services in Mansfield-Marysvill~ 2062. Narbethong areas, 4027. Healesville Legislative Council-Proposed inquiry into line, 4027. powers, 4705. Railway Loan Application Bill, 1570. Litter Act-Prosecutions, 3713. Railways (Funds) Bill, 2407, 2410. Maribyrnong-road Bridge - Replacement, Railways (Long Service Leave) Bill, 2012. 1555, 1557. Marketing of Primary Products (Egg Ring Road - Acquisition of East Mel Marketing) Bill, 3102, 3108, 4735. bourne property, 2941. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Secondary Industries-Industries estab Works - Proposed ring road, 2941. lished and closed down outside metro Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of politan area in 1963-64, and number Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 3464. of employees affected, 288. Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Sewerage Districts Bill, 1295, 1374. Board - Increased fares, 164. Soil Conservation Authority - Advice to Metropolitan Transportation Committee landholders on farm water supplies, Traffic survey, 4654, 4724. Committee 4219. meetings, 4654, 4724. Projects ap Soil Conservation (Water Resources) proved, 4654, 4724. Bill, 4044, 4053. Ministry - Members holding director State Insurance Funds Bill, 311. ships of public companies, 2014. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis Motor Vehicles - Car safety belts, 3092, sion Staff retrenchments, 478. 3138. Unroadworthy vehicles, 3639. Advice to landholders on farm water Motor car insurance policies, 3639. supplies, 4219. Municipalities - Comparisons of popula State Savings Bank - Insurance on tions in 1954 and 1961, 4155. houses financed by bank, 3421. National Parks (Amendment) Bill, 2054, Stock Foods (Amendment) Bill, 1560, 2057. 1945, 1946. National Parks (Amendment) Bill Taxation - Proposed State income tax, (No. 2), 4385, 4392. 1058. "No-Doz Awakeners "-Component drugs Teaching Service (Amendment) Bill, and effect of continued usage, 2710, 3630. 2837. Transport, Public - Staggered hours of Parliamentary Contributory Retirement employment, 3714. Fund-Proposed increase in pensions, Transport Regulation Board - Issue of 4705. licences, 1639. Point of Order - Interjections, 4076. Tullamarine Jetport - Construction of Police Department - Personnel in Ascot rail link, 1545. Date of opening, 1545. Vale, Moonee Ponds, Essendon and Transport arrangements, 1545. Con Glenroy, 1904. Apprehension of offen struction schedules for runways and ders by officers while travelling to or buildings, 2946, 2969. from place of duty, 2715. Brunswick Victorian Inland Meat Authority - police station, 4713. Ballarat and Bendigo meatworks: Police Pensions Fund - Police pensions Annual capacity, numbers of cattle, and police widows' pensions, 2240, sheep and pigs slaughtered, and exten 2715, 4705. sions to works, 3418. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1848. Victorian Inland Meat Authority (Amend- Railway Department - Increased fares ment) Bill, 3124, 3137, 3777. and freights, 164. Payment of claims Water (Amendment) Bill, 3739. for damaged goods arising from de Water (Recreational Areas) Bill, 2416. railments, 477, 758. Works at Kaniva Water Supplies on Farms - Advice to and Diapur, 1033. Shunters and yard landholders by State Rivers and Water assistants, 1640. Shunting accidents, Supply Commission and Soil Conserva 1640, 1719. Manning of metropolitan tion Authority, 4219. stations, 1821. Lilydale-Warburton Wilson's Promontory National Park - line, 2013. Co-ordination of road and Proposed motel, 4218, 4704. (48) INDEX.

Trotting. (See "Racing (Amendment) Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill Bill.") Received · from Assembly and first reading, 4408; second reading, 4515, Trustee Companies (Affidavits) Bill-Intro 4657; Committee, 4683; remaining duction and first reading, 1261; second reading, 1292, 1490; Committee, 1491; stages, 4693. remaining stages, 1492. Victoria Market. (See " Queen Victoria Market.") Tuberculosis. (See "Department of Health " and " Health (Tuberculosis Victorian Inland Meat Authority-Agree Arrangement) Bill.") men t with Swift Australian Company (Proprietary) Limited regarding Tullamarine Freeway. (See " Country slaughtering at country abattoirs, (qn.) Roads Board.") 2013, (qn.) 2139. Ballarat and Tullamarine Jetport-Construction of rail Bendigo meatworks: Annual capacity, link, (qn.) 1545. Date of opening, (qn.) 3418; numbers of cattle, sheep ( qn.) 1545. Construction schedules for and pigs slaughtered, (qn.) 3418; runways and buildings, ( qn.) 2946, extensions to works, ( qn.) 3418. 2969. Victorian Inland Meat Authority (Amend ment) Bill-Received from Assembly u. and first reading, 2726; second reading, Uniform Taxation. (See "Taxation.") 2951, 3124; Committee, 3133, 3775; re maining stages, 3785. Universities-Quota system, 1282. Enrol ments in Victoria and New South Wales, 1282, 1285, 1286. Retrospective w. salary increases, 4656, 4726. (See also Walton, Hon. J. M. (Melbourne North "La Trobe University Bill," "Monash Province). University (Amendment) Bill" and Aborigines (Amendment) Bill, 4081. "Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill.") Acquisition of Materials Bill, 2285. Country Roads Board - Construction of v. Darebin creek bridge, 1902. Disposal of Uncollected Goods (Damaged Valuation of Land-Regional valuation Motor Cars) Bill, 1567. groups, (qn.) 759. (See also Friendly Societies (Assignment of Con "Municipalities.") tracts) Bill, 2502. Valuation of Land (Amendment) Bill Health (Household Insecticides) Bill, Introduction and first reading, 481; 3120. second reading, 939, 1721, 2014, 2878, Justices (Complaints and Summonses) 4157, 4399; Committee, 4402, 4544; re Bill, 296, 298, 494. maining stages, 4545. Land Tax (Rates and Exemptions) Bill, 2058. Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 4260; Latrobe Valley (Amendment) Bill, 1293. second reading, 4270, 4364; Committee, Local Authorities Superannuation 4369, 4395; remaining stages, 4399. (Amendment) Bill, 296. Local Government (Amendment) Bill, Valuation of Land (Valuations) Bill 1928, 1932. Introduction and first reading, 1641; second reading, 1738, 2030, 2268; Com Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of mittee, 2270; remaining stages, 2276. Works-Discharge of sewage: Into Yarra river, 757; into Moonee Ponds Veterinary Surgeons. (See "Medical creek and Maribyrnong river, 876. (Amendment) Bill.") South-eastern sewerage scheme, 757. Veterinary Surgeons (Amendment) Bill Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Introduction and first reading, 2606; Board Concessional fares for second 1 eading, 2606, 2722; Committee children and students, 1030. and remaining stages, 2726. Assembly Mildura Irrigation and Water Trusts amendment dealt with, 4735. (Amendment) Bill, 3621. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. (49)

Walton, Hon. J. M.-continued. Welfare and Community Organizations. Municipalities - Accident insurance for (See "Marine Stores and Old Metals municipal councillors, 608. (Welfare and Community Organiza Prisons Division - Pentridge Gaol staff, tions) Bill.") 3324. Werribee Waterworks District (Abolition) Railway Department - Weights and sizes Bill-Received from Assembly and of sleepers and rails used on standard first reading, 3344; second reading, gauge and other lines, 609. Conces 3445, 3637; remaining stages, 3638. sional fares for children and students, Western Highway. (See "Country Roads 1030. Trucks fitted with W-guards, Board.") 3325. Derailments, 3325. Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 3928. Westernport Bay-Inquiry by State Development Committee, (qn.) 2838, Sale of Land Bill, 4172. 2888. Stamps Bill (No. 2), 4226. Transfer of Land (Removal of Caveats) Wheat-Sales to China, 1486. Transport Bill, 3355. of harvest, 1486. (See also "Grain Trustee Companies (Affidavits) Bill, 1490. Elevators (Borrowing) Bill " and Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill, 4364, "Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) . 4397, 4398. Bill.") Wills (Minors') Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 2710; Water (Amendment) Bill-Received from second reading, 2727, 2959; Committee Assembly and first reading, 3609; and remaining stages, 2962. second reading, 3738; Committee and Wilson's Promontory National Park-Pro remaining stages, 3741. posed motel, (qn.) 3423, (qn.) 4218, Water Authorities Accident Insurance Bill 4704, (qn.) 4736. Water supply survey, -Received from Assembly and first (qn.) 4736. reading, 2837; second reading, 2955, Wombats-Amounts paid by Government 3359; Committee, 3360; remaining and municipalities as bonuses for stages, 3361. wombat scalps, (qn.) 2838. Water Bill-Received from Assembly and Wool. (See "Health (Offensive Trades) first reading, 1567; second reading, Bill.") 1730, 2185; Committee, 2191; remain ing stages, 2192. Workers Compensation (Amendment) Bill -Received from Assembly and first Water Conservation-Farm schemes, (qn.) reading, 3609; second reading, 3714; 4219. Committee, 3727; remammg stages, Water (Recreational Areas) Bill-Received 3731. Assembly amendment dealt with, from Assembly and first reading, 1944; 4728, 4740. second reading, 2065, 2416; remaining Workers Compensation Board-Delay in stages, 2417. hearing cases, 1068, 1072. Water Supply-Logging in catchment areas, 238. Metropolitan water supply, 238. Requirements for Geelong, x. Ballarat, Werribee, Bacchus Marsh, X-ray Examinations. (See " Department of Latrobe Valley, Mornington Peninsula, Health.") Wangaratta, Shepparton, Benalla, Wodonga and Portland, (qn.) 4652. Y. (See also "Soil Conservation Autho rity," "Soil Conservation (Water Yarra River-Lower Yarra crossing, 634. Resources) Bill " and " State Rivers (See also "Melbourne and Metropolitan and Water Supply Commission.") Board of Works.") Water Supply Loan Application Bill Yooralla Hospital School for Crippled Received from Assembly and first Children-Extensions, 1486, 2556. reading, 1458; second reading, 1551, Youth Training Centres. (See "Social 2418: remaining stages, 2423. Welfare (Trainees) Bill.") INDEX.

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A. Address-in-Reply Debate-Suggested aboli Aborigines - Financial contributions for tion, 2481. education, (qn.) 106, (qn.) 181. Administration and Probate (Small Estates) Administration of Aborigines' affairs, Bill-Received from Council and first 2746. Representations from Australian reading, 696; second reading, 712, 869; Council of Churches: Rights to land, Committee, 872, 1218; remaining stages, ( qn.) 2677. Request for reports on 1222. Lake Tyers settlement and on con ditions in Gippsland area, ( qn.) 2678. Advertising-False and misleading state Investigations by police of conditions ments: Charges and prosecutions, (qn.) in Gippsland, ( qn.) 2678. Settlement 2890. and housing in Morwell, (qn.) 4409. Agent-General-Need for new building, 46. (See also " Lake Tyers Aboriginal Publicity material, 4499. Suggested Station.") appointment of industrial affairs officer, Aborigines (Amendment) Bill - Introduc 4500. tion and first reading, 2584; second Agdcultural Colleges Bill-Introduction and reading, 2765, 3654; Comn;i.ittee, 3706; first reading, 189; second reading, 198, remaining stages, 3710. 673; remaining stages, 675. Aborigines Welfare Board-Provision of Agricultural Education (Continuation) Bill housing, 33. Reorganization of activi -Introduction and first reading, 3228; ties, 33. 1964-65 Budget statement, 91. second reading, 3230, 3588; appropria Research on educational attainment of tion resolution, 3590; Committee and Aboriginal children, ( qn.). 106. Acqui remaining stages, 3590. sition, of property, (qn.) 2069. Report of Dr. D. Barwick, ( qn.) 2069. Estab Agriculture. (See "Department of Agricul lishment of settlements, (qn.) 2890. ture.") (See also "Lake Tyers Aboriginal Air Pollution. (See " Clean Air Com Station.") mittee.") Acquisition of Materials Bill-Introduction Albert Park-Road reconstruction, (qns.) and first reading, 189; second reading, 367, 424. 200, 1528; Committee, 1535; remaining stages, 1537. Alpine Areas-Administration of, (qn.) 3283. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (51)

Altona Railway Extension Bill-Introduc Balfour, Mr. J. C. M.-continued. tion and first reading, 2647; second reading, 2647, 2900, 2909; Committee, Fisherman's Bend Aerodrome-Proposed 2911; remaining stages, 2912. use as City Centre Air Taxi Port, 4416. Forests (Amendment) Bill, 1768, 1884, Appeal Costs Fund (Amendment) Bill - 2207, 2209. Introduction and first reading, 2583; Geelong (Kardinia Park) Land Bill, 3368, second reading, 2661, 2804; appropria 3375. tion resolution, 2805; Committee and Grain Elevators Board-Interest and sink remaining stages, 2805. ing fund, 246. Capital works, 246. Apprenticeship-Administration, 905. State Reconstitution, 247, 2644. Accounts ment by Commonwealth Conciliation in credit, 2686. Commissioner, (qn.) 3367. (See also Grain Elevators (Borrowing) Bill, 62, 113. "Building Industry.") Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill, Appropriation Bill-All stages, 2459. 3368, 3374. Hansard-Weekly issue, 3850. Proofs of Auditor-General - Report presented, 650. members' speeches, 3850. Supplementary report presented, 893. Land (Special Grant) Bill, 62, 65. Overseas visit, 2345, 2436. Paper on Local Government (Amendment) Bill, governmental auditing, 2436. 4547, 4551, 4552, 4563, 4569. Australian Congress for International Co· Mallacoota National Park-Excision of operation and Disarmament, (qn.) 182. area, 513. Australian Nurses Federation, Victorian Marketing of Primary Products (Egg Section-Protest meeting, 2939, 2941. Marketing) Bill, 3225, 3642, 4630, 4634. Milk Board-Price inquiry, 368, 1964. B. Milk Industry-Price increase, 247, 315. Production and price of powdered skim Balfour, Mr. J. C. M. (Morwell). milk, 975. Overseas market and ex Agricultural Colleges Bill, 189, 198. port permits for milk products, 975. Agricultural Education (Continuation) National Parks (Amendment) Bill, 1216, Bill, 3228, 3230, 3590. 1313, 1617, 1618, 2134. Agriculture, Department of-" Take-all '' National Parks (Amendment) Bill disease in north-west Victoria, 1215. (No. 2), 3030, 3149, 4202, 4203, 4204, Appeal Costs Fund (Amendment) Bill, 4205. 2805. North-West Mallee Settlers--Compensa Association Football Clubs-Allocation of tion, 2791. grounds, 1457. Onion Marketing Board-Members, 2894. Barrel Clover - Origin and cultivation, Marketing of odourless onions, 2894. 827. Suitability for Gippsland, 827. Amounts owing to Board by agents, Bendigo Land (Special Grant) Bill, 3002. 2894. Acreage of onions, 2895. Broadmeadows Planning Scheme. - Pesticides-Effect on wildlife, 3363. Dele Appeal, 4280. terious effects of and alternative to use Cattle Compensation (Amendment) Bill, of dieldrin, 3482. 2584, 2592, 2594, 2705. Pesticides Bill, 1028, 1104, 1630, 1631. Closer Settlement (Regulations) Bill, 62, Potatoes-Shortage of supplies, 650. In 68, 208. crease in price, 650. Constitution Act Amendment (Subor Primary Production-New South Wales dinate Legislation Committee) Bill, The, legislation re standards of quality, 3587. packaging and marketing, 2791. Decentralization Advisory Committee Bill, Public Water Supplies (Fluoridation) Bill, The, 1715, 2094, 2095. 1216. Egg and Egg Pulp Marketing Board Revocation and Excision of Crown Reser Vacation of Oakleigh premises, 3787. vations Bill, 62, 65, 673. Bendigo plant, 4282. Farm Produce Merchants and Commis Rural Finance and Settlement Commission sion Agents Bill, 3001, 3004, 3880, Bill, 3710, 3789, 4600. 3882, 3883, 3884, 3885, 3890, 3891, 3894, Soil Conservation Authority - File re 3895, 4566. "Mount Bolton", Learmonth, 247. (52) INDEX.

Balfour, Mr. J. C. M.-continued. Birrell, Mr. H. W. (Geelong). Soil Conservation (Water Resources) Bill, Basic Wage-Increase, 332. 3030, 3034, 3393. Budget for Year 1964-65, 330. State Forests Loan Application Bill, 189, Bush Fires-Ministerial statement, 3222. 202, 689. Country Fire Authority Bill, 3411. Stock Foods (Amendment) Bill, 2010, Crimes (Illegal Use of Motor Cars) Bill, 3838. 2115, 2487. Decentralization Advisory Committee Bill, Superphosphate - Delivery to farms, The, 1712. 3483. Education-Increased costs, 334. Surveyors - Delays in investigations Education Department-Book allowance undertaken by district surveyors, 4093. for matriculation students, 334. Dis Swine Compensation (Amendment) Bill, posal of Moolap State School, 891. 2584, 2594, 2707. Classes, extensions and improvements Swine Compensation Bill, 1311, 1412. to Geelong Technical School, 2973. Technical school for Belmont area, Swine Compensation Fund-Credits and 2973. debits, 1167. Maximum compensation Estimates for Year 1964-65, 2456. payable, 1167. Fishing Industry-Seal problem in Corio Tomato Processing Industry (Uniform Bay, 3850. Agreement) Bill, 1768, 1882. Game (Black Swans) Bill, 858. Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill Geelong Harbor Trust-Dredging in Port (No. 2), 4313, 4314, 4316, 4317, 4318, Phillip Bay, 923. 4319, 4323, 4324, 4325, 4326, 4572. Geelong (Kardinia Park) Land Bill, 3591. Veterinary Surgeons (Amendment) Bill, Geelong Public Offices-Proposed con 2802, 4592, 4595, 4596. struction, 1307. Victorian Dried Fruits Board-Constitu Grain Elevators (Borrowing) Bill, 275. tion, meetings, members, and allow Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, ances, 3363. 3255. Victorian Inland Meat Authority-Leas Labour and Industry (Long Service ing agreement with Swift Australian Leave) Bill, 1792. Company (Proprietary) Limited, 703. La Trobe University Bill, 1012. Motor Boats-Subsidy for private motor Victorian Inland Meat Authority (Amend boat clubs, 923. ment) Bill, 2647, 2649, 2758. Municipalities-Money for drainage, 923. Wild Animals-Destruction of wombats, National Parks (Amendment) Bill foxes and wild dogs, 2744; payment (No. 2), 4192. of bonuses, 2744. Parliament House - Opossum nuisance, 3608. Ports and Harbors Branch-Condition of Ballarat-Establishment of industries, 732. bay beaches and coastline, 923. Boat Begonia festival, 733. ing facilities at Queenscliff and Swan Bay, 923. Barwon Regional Committee - Members, Princes Bridge, Newtown-Opening, 891. (qn.) 2889. Appointments, (qn.) 2889. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1315. Powers and functions, ( qn.) 2889. Railway Department - Duplication of Expenses, ( qn.) 2889. Geelong line, 2456. Basic Wage-Effect of increase on Budget, Sewerage Districts Bill, 867. 82, 321, 332, 351, 378, 395, 436, 452, Shell Pipelines Bill, 2315. 465, 559, 576, 577, 588. Cost-of-living Stamps Bill, 1879. ad~ustments, 725. State Electricity Commission-Decrease Bendigo Land (Special Grant) Bill-Intro in country tariff, 334. duction and first reading, 3002; second Supply, 923. reading, 3002, 3380; remaining stages, Surf Boards and Water Skis-Control, 3380. 2976. Uniform Taxation-System, 331. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (53)

Birrell, Mr. H. W.-continued. Bloomfield, Mr. J. S.-continued. Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill Swifts Creek Higher Elementacy (No. 2), 4307. School, 891. Accommodation for Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4467. students at Helen-street State School, Northcote, 1118. Accommodation at Water Supply-Bellarine Peninsula pipe Keilor Heights Primacy School, 1303. line, 892. Kallista State School extensions, 1457, Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 1446. 1765. Purchase of land at Leongatha for primacy school, 1497, 1658. Land at Ellinbank State School, 1658. Bloomfield, Mr. J. S. (Malvern). Special Schools: Number and loca Aborigines-Research into educational tion, 2682; enrolments, waiting lists attainment of children, 106. and educational standards, 2682. Addi tions to Croxton Special School, 2739. Business of the House-Order of business, Accident at Carnegie State School 4217. crossing, 2979. Additional primacy Co-operative Housing Societies-Finances, schools at Sale and Traralgon, 3027. 4218. Proposed Western Heights primacy Decimal Currency-Teaching in schools, school, 3284. Fire drill in State 1166. schools, 3640. Renovations to Gold Education-Martin report on tertiacy edu street, Clifton Hill, State School, 4091. cation, 1166, 2637, 2902, 2908, 2909, Improvements to grounds of Frankston 3227. Examination charges, 2739. East State School, 4410. Admission of married women and Secondary Schools-Alleged distribution Asian students to universities, 2739. of political literature by oStudents of Attendances at State, private and inde Frankston High School, 1117, 1302, pendent schools, 3284. Free milk 1303. Construction of, and provision of scheme, 3285. Broadmeadows High temporacy accommodation for students School, 3321. Oakleigh High School, at Flemington High School, 1119. 3481. Accusations against head master Moreland High School site and build of Drouin High School, 4344. Accom ings, 1405. Commonwealth grants for modation at Keon Park Technical science blocks in secondacy schools, School, 4411. New high and technical 1405, 1765. Purchase of land for schools, 4411. technical school at Traralgon, 1497, 1658. Broadmeadows Technical School, Education Department 2010, 3481. Macyborough Technical GeneraZ-Confidential circular re Com School, 2070. Ministerial inspection of monwealth scholarships, 365. Supply Fitzroy High School, 2683. High and and erection of portable class-rooms, 511. Expenditure, 916. Open days at technical school facilities in Moming Oakleigh schools, 1029. Introduction of ton electoral district, 2892. Classes, ex decimal currency, 1166. Subsidies for tensions and improvements to Geelong mothers' clubs, 2069. Subsidies for Technical School, 2973. Technical assembly halls, 2297. Student popu school for Belmont area, 2973. New lation and school building projects in high schools at Sale and Brunswick, Carlton, Collingwood and Fitzroy areas, 3027. Students and class-rooms at 2637. Provision of rooms at new Brunswick High School, 3027. schools, 2785. Holiday for school chil Teachers - Temporacy teachers, 1074. dren, 3227, 3284. Cuisenaire system Facilities for science teaching at Secon of teaching, 4411. dacy Teachers' College, 2638. Applica Primary Schools-State school organiza tions for primacy teacher training, 2681. tions: Establishment, constitution and Participation of teachers in civic affairs, financial assistance, 106. State School 2973. Qualified and unqualified Committees and Councils Association, 244. Condition of Spensely-street teachers, 4411. State School, Clifton Hill, 262. Dis Education (School Committees) Bill, posal of Moolap State School, 891. 1589, 1773, 2103. (54) INDEX.

Bloomfield, Mr. J. S.-continued. Bloomfield, Mr. J. S.-continued. Health (Household Insecticides) Bill, 2627. Compliance with section 33 of 3226. University Act, 2627. Matriculants Housing (Amendment) Bill, 2484. accepted and rejected, 2681. Admission Justices (Registration) Bill, 3055. of students, 2891. Land Tax (Rates and Exemptions) Bill, Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 3368, 1512. 3646, 3652, 4468, 4471, 4472, 4473, 4474, La Trobe University-Proposed interim 4477, 4478, 4479, 4480, 4481, 4482, council, 699. Admission of students, 4483, 4484, 4485, 4746. 699. Academic staff, 699. Workers Compensation (Amendment) La Trobe University Bill, 370, 518, 1021, Bill, 3536. 1078, 1087, 1092, 1099, 1103, 2103. Maintenance (Reciprocating State) Bill, 1542. Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill-Intro Medical (Foreign Practitioners) Bill, 3414. duction and first reading, 1589; second Medical Practitioners - Registrations, reading, 1663, 2003; resolution fixing 3366. fees, 2007; Committee, 2007; remaining Mines (Exploration Licences) Bill, 2127. stages, 2009. Monash University-Imposition of quotas, Boilers Inspection Branch-Reports of Chief 2627. Enrolment of studentship holders, Inspector, (qn.) 701, 1963. Salaries 2627. Matriculants accepted and re and expenditure, (qn.) 785. Number of jected, 2681. boiler inspectors, ( qn.) 786. Inspection Monash University (Amendment) Bill, of steam boilers and air and gas 1768, 1772, 1978. receivers, ( qn.) 1765. Personal Explanation, 1027. Point of ·order-Relevancy of remarks, 919. Bolte, Mr. H. E. (Hampden). Property Law (Loans to Minors) Bill, Aborigines - Representations from Aus 3031, 3147, 3386. tralian Council of Churches re rights Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1318. to land, 2677. School Libraries-Subsidies, 785. Ex Aborigines Welfare Board Budget penditure, 785. statement, 91. Social Welfare-Shortage of social Agriculture, Department of Budget workers, 2683. Suggested social studies statement, 93. Grants to agricultural course at Monash University, 2683. and pastoral societies, 94. Supply, 52, 916, 981. Alpine Areas - Administration, 3283. Teachers Tribunal-Report of chairman Barwon Regional Committee - Members, on overseas trip, 183. 2889. Powers, 2889. Functions, 2889. Teaching Service (Amendment) Bill, Expenses, 2889. 3711, 3792, 4590, 4591, 4592. Basic Wage - Increase, 452. Universities-Matriculation examinations, Bread Industry - Week-end baking, 746. 699, 1583. Admission of students, 699, Budget for Year 1964-65, 79, 445, 451. 1583. Academic staff, 699, 1583. Estab Effects of basic wage increase, 82. lishment of fourth university, 699. Bush Fires - Damage, 2678. Govern Degrees and diplomas, 1583. Quota ment assistance, 2678, 3788. Loss of system, 2627. Enrolment of studentship income by volunteer fire fighters, 2679. holders at Melbourne and Monash Business of the House - Order of universities, 2627. Matriculants accep business, 3972, 3976, 4419. ted and rejected at Melbourne and Chairman of Committees - Election of Monash universities, 2681. Mr. Rafferty, 35. University of Melbourne-Relations with Chief Secretary's Department-Budget Government, 52. Library facilities, 53. statement, 91. Provision of science and physics facili Civil Aviation - Correspondence with ties for Secondary Teachers' College, Prime Minister re control of intra 1118, 1303. School of Education state air routes, 104. courses, 1303. Imposition of quotas, Civil Defence and State Disaster Planning 2627. Enrolment of studentship holders, ---;Organization and expenditure, 1958. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (55)

Bolte, Mr. H. E.-continued. Bolte, Mr. H. E.-continued. Clerk, The - Leave of absence, 312. Fuel Oil - Competition with coal indus Co-operative Housing Societies-Member try, 313, 748. Tax on production, 313. ship, 1961. Advances, 1961. Consumption and prices paid by Committee of Public Accounts - Pro Government authorities, 360. Domestic posed visit to New South Wales, 4343. consumption, 3362. Effect on briquette Committees of Supply and Ways and sales, 3362. Sales tax, 3362. Means-Appointment, 38. Gas and Fuel Corporation - Increased Commonwealth Income Tax - Re- charges, 451. Assets, 2620. Invest imbursement formula, 2626. ments, 2620. Income, 2620. Profits, Commonwealth Pay-roll Tax - Payments 2620. Increased charges, 2620. Re by Government authorities, 243. bates on gas charges for pensioners. Validity, 447. 3026. Companies - Taxation payments, 448. Geelong Harbor Trust - Assets, 2622. Company Shares - Suggested stabiliza- Investments, 2622. Income, 2622. tion, 2604. Profits, 2622. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 1), 56. Government Employees - Salaries in Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 3), 982. excess of £2,000, 181. Incremental pay Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 5), 4547. ments, 451, 863. Employment and ter Constitution Act Amendment (Respon- mination of services, 3479. sible Ministers) Bill, The, 36, 38. Government Instrumentalities - Assets, Consumers Protection Bill, 518, 2232, investments, charges, and finance, 181. 2569, 2577. Supply, purchase and disposal of motor Co-operative Housing Societies - Budget vehicles, 3141. statement, 97. Advances under Com Governor-General-State luncheon, 2971. monwealth-State Housing Agreement, Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, 1660. Secretaries, 1660. 743. Co-operative Housing Societies (Indemni Grain Elevators Board - Assets, invest ties) Bill, 1767.· ments, income and profits, 2623. Country Roads Board - Restoration of Grievance Day - Suspension of Standing bridges and culverts in Longwood area, Order, 975, 1409. 3565. Health, Department of - Budget state Deaths - Sir Albert Eli Lind, 21, 27. The ment, 92. Hon. E. J. Hogan, 58, 60. Hire-purchase Agreements, 313. Debate - Withdrawal of statement Home Finance Trust - Budget state objected to, 448. ment, 98. Decentralization Advisory Committee Hospitals - Increased charges, 451. Bill, The, 1498. Hospitals and Charities Commission Distinguished Visitor, 313. Budget statement, 92. Education - Presentation of Martin Housing - Commonwealth loan moneys, report on tertiary education, 365. Num 102. Home Finance Fund No. 2, 1457. ber of students, 2625. Housing (Amendment) Bill, 2086. Education Department - Budget state Housing Commission - Budget state ment, 88. Proposed increase in junior ment, 97. Slum reclamation pro scholarships, 90. Matriculation book gramme, 97. Sale of land in Broad allowance, 90. Allowances for pupils meadows, 746. in necessitous circumstances, 90. Income Tax-Collection fee, 784. Electoral Provinces and Districts Bill, Kings Bridge - Restoration, 700, 972, 4018. 2626. Ex gratia payments by contrac Estimates for Year 1964-65, 38, 78, 2449. tors for repairs, 825. Cost of repairs, Supplementary Estimates for year 972. Load limits, 972, 2626. 1963-64, 100, 979. Estimates for year Kirrak Coal Mine - Trapped miners, 650. 1965-66, 3228. Supplementary Estimates Knopfelmacher, Dr. - Retention in Vic for year 1964-65, 3965, 3966, 4546. toria, 4765. Forests Commission - Royalty increases, Labour and Industry, Department of - 86. Budget statement, 96. Shop trading hours, 747. (56) INDEX.

Bolte, Mr. H. £.-continued. Bolte, Mr. H. £.-continued. Lands Department - Revision of charges, Points of Order - Member's reference to 86. private business dealings with Govern Land Tax (Rates and Exemptions) Bill, ment, 573. Relevancy of remarks, 1311, 1312. 3974, 3977. Legislative Council - Functioning, 899. Police Department - Budget statement, Librarian, The - Death of Mr. F. J. 91. Investigation of threats to broad Perry, 2732. caster, 743. Life-saving Clubs - Budget statement, Portland Harbor Trust - Assets, 2622. 92. Investments, 2622. Income, 2622. Liquor Inquiry - Cost, 104. Date of Profits, 2622. conclusion, 104. Public Accounts - Need for increased Loan Funds - Interest and sinking fund revenue, 82, 745. Surpluses and payments, 80. Budget statement, 99. deficits, 83. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Public Lands and Works Bill, 1518. Works - Assets, investments, income Public Officers - Loans for purchase of and profits, 2622. motor vehicles, 700. Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Public Service Board - Claims relating Board - Increased fares, 451. Incre to salaries and conditions, 2627, 2734. mental payments to employees, 451. Public Works - Commonwealth loan Assets, 2620. Investments, 2620. moneys, 102. Income, 2620. Profits, 2620. Increased Railway Department - Interest and charges, 2620. sinking fund payments, 86, 1762. Melbourne Harbor Trust-Assets, 2622. Budget statement, 98. Financial results, Investments, 2622. Income, 2622. 100. Increased fares and freights, 451, Profits, 2622. 452, 896. Increased payments to Rail Melbourne Water Supply - Recommen way Accident and Fire Insurance Fund, dations of Public Works Committee, 863. Loan liability, 1762. Assets, in 2735. vestments, income and profits, and in Members-Service of Sir Herbert Hyland, creased charges, 2623. Service grants 1984. scheme, 3967. Mental Health Authority - Budget state Road-making Materials Acquisition, ment, 93. 647. Mineral Resources - Royalties, 2624. Roads and Bridges - Funds for restora Development, 2624. tion of bush-fire damage, 2971. Ministry, The, 27. Roads (Special Projects) Bill, 3566, 4149, Motor Car Act - Proposal for fines to be 4328, 4334, 4335, 4336, 4342, 4343. paid into Consolidated Revenue, 85. Royal Commonwealth Society - Sugges Motor Car (Fines and Drivers' Licence ted Government grant, 2449. Fees) Bill, 1168, 1437. Rural Finance and Settlement Commis Motor Vehicles - Proposed increase in sion - Budget statement, 96. drivers' licence fees, 85. Scientology - Cost and findings of Board Municipalities - Commonwealth loan of Inquiry, 104. moneys, 102. Construction of pedes Senate Vacancy - Joint meeting of trian subways, 700. Houses, 1986, 2488, 2489, 2490. Oil. (See "Fuel Oil.") Sessional Period, Close of - Christmas Oil Installations - Petition by Williams felicitations, 2579. town City Council and residents re fire Social Welfare Branch - Budget state hazard, 1763. ment, 91. Olympic Games - Government grants, Soil Conservation Authority - Budget 2677. statement, 97. Parliament - Prorogation and commence Speaker - Election, 19, 21. ment of new session, 4763. Stamp Duties - Proposed increases, 85. Parliamentary Salaries Pensions and Collections on marketable securities, Superannuation Bill, 2302, 2338, 2453. 243. Transfer fee on shares, 447. Petrol Tax - Collection and distribution, Stamps Bill, 1590, 1874, 1875, 1878, 1880, 1404. 1881. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (57)

Bolte, Mr. H. E.-continued. Bolte, Mr. H. E.-continued. Stamps Bill (No. 2), 3965. Trotting Races - Revenue from show Stamps (Motor Car) Bill, 1207, 1208, ground meetings, 700, 701. 1440. Uniform Taxation - Per capita grants to State Accident Insurance Office - Com States, 313. Reimbursements formula, petition with private enterprise, 972. 102, 313, 447, 745, 896, 979, 2626. State Administration - Numbers of Exemptions for gifts to technical col members of Parliament, and employees leges and students' fees, 4409. in Government Departments and instru Universities - Budget statement, 90. mentalities, 2296. Financial assistance, 698. Staff shor State Electricity Commission _..._ Royalty tage, 698. Expansion, 698. Construc on brown coal, 86, 896. Increased tion works, 698. Government grants charges, 451, 2620. Uniform tariffs, for university ·colleges, 972. Number 898. Assets, 2620. Investments, 2620. of students, 2626. Salary increases, Income,· 2620. Profits, 2620. 2626, 3966. State Finances - Commonwealth loan Workers Compensation (Amendment) moneys, 102. Commonwealth special Bill, 3508, 3511, 4585, 4761. and emergePJ.cy grants, 102. Victorian debt charges, 102. Budget deficits, 102. Interest and sinking fund charges on Borthwick, Mr. W. A. (Scoresby). deficits, 243. Capital debt, 363. Loans Agricultural Education (Continuation) for railways, 363. Bill, 3589. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis Bush Fires - Ministerial statement, 3212, sion - Budget statement, 94. Amorti 3216. zation of capital works, 897. Assets, Censorship - Standards, 120. 2622. Investments, 2622. Income, Chairman of Committees - Election of 2622. Profits, 2622. Increased charges, Mr. Rafferty, 33. 2622. Commonwealth-State Financial Relation State Savings Bank - Competition with ships, 911. private enterprise, 972. Country Fire Authority - Provision of State Superannuation Fund - Reserve static water supply throughout Dande units, 1117. Representations from Re nong Ranges, 119. tired State Employees' Association for Country Fire Authority Bill, 3404. increase in unit values, 1404. Pension Country Fire Authority (Borrowing rates, 2431. Suggested free medical Powers) Bill, 284. and hospital treatment for superannua Dandenong Valley Authority - Establish ted officers, 2431. Contributions, 3362. ment, 118. Refunds, 3362. Investments, 3362. Education Department - Kallista State Statistics - Average wages, population School extensions, 1456. Conveyance increase, number of students, and tax allowances to regional technical schools, reimbursements, 2625. 2134. Sanitary conditions at Fern Tree Superannuation (Time for Election) Bill, Gully North Sfate School, 3711. 1767, 1859. Farm Produce Merchants and Commis sion Agents Bill, 3887, 3893, 4568. Supply, 38, 56, 860, 895, 3287, 4485. Fisheries and Wildlife Department-Pro Changes in Supply schedule, 3288, 4485. tection of lyre birds in Sherbrooke Tattersall Consultations (Jackpot Con Forest, 120. sultations) Bill, 1767, 1860. Glenroy to Tullamarine Railway Con Taxation - State fields, 84. Proposed re struction Bill, 3903. introduction of State income tax, 87, Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply~ 449, 744. Taxation per head of popula 118. tion, 102. Sources of taxation and Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, revenue received, 102. Payments by 3271. companies, 448. Suggested tax on Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of advertising, 448. Indirect taxation, 448. Works - Cost of water, 119. Totalizator Agency Board - Revenue. National Parks (Amendment) Bill payments and agencies, 511. (No. 2), 4204. (58) INDEX.

Borthwick, Mr. W. A.--continued. c. Public Transport-Needs of fringe areas, Cadet Surveyors Bill - Introduction and 119. first reading, 2196; second reading, Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1243. 2209, 2302; remaining stages, 2304. Railway Loan Application Bill, 1158. Cancer (Amendment) BiU-Introduction and Sewerage - Installation of septic first reading, 1589; second reading, systems outside of metropolitan area, 1667, 1972; appropriation resolution, 513. 1973; Committee and remaining stages, State Rivers and Water Supply Commis- 1973. sion - Cost of water, 119. Cancer Institute Board-Country visits by Supply, 910. units of Peter MacCallum Institute, 329. Mobile clinics: Staffing and visits to Uniform Taxation-Reimbursements, 912. country, (qn.) 1167. Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill (No. 2), 4310. Cattle Compensation (Amendment) Bill Introduction and first reading, 2584; Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 1453. second reading, 2592, 2703; appropria tion resolution, 2705; Committee and Boy Scouts. (See " Marine Stores and Old remaining stages, 2705. Metals (Welfare and Community Censorship - Standards, 120. Magazine Organizations) Bill.") article, 403. Discussions on uniformity Bread Industry-Week-end baking, 740, 746, with Commonwealth, (qn.) 785. (See 977, (qn.) 1658, (qn.) 1963; prosecu also "Obscene Publications.") tions, (qn.) 1658, (qn.) 1963, (qn.) Chairman of Committees-Election of Mr. 2973; pay rates and time books, (qn.) Rafferty, 33. 1658. Budget for Year 1964-65-Brought down by Chairman of Committees, The (Mr. J. A. Mr. Bolte (Premier and Treasurer), 79; Rafferty). debated, 316, 374, 425, 445, 526. Rulings and statements of- Building Industry-Scaffolding inspectors Debate - Use of expressions objected to, in City of Melbourne, ( qn.) 2638, ( qn.) 448, 564, 1419. Interjections, 450, 581, 2684. Safety measures, ( qn.) 2638, 583. Reference to report of Statute (qn.) 2684. Employment of appren Law Revision Committee which has not tices, ( qn.) 3786. Activities of certain been made public, 1419. Extension of companies, 4510. time for speech, 451. Member to address the Chair, 583. Relevancy of Bush Fires - Ministerial statement, 2602, remarks, 893, 895, 899, 911, 914, 915, 2604, 2687, 2791, 3159. Damage, (qn.) 1076, 1089, 1091, 1203, 1205, 2089, 2097, 2678. Government assistance to 4507. Reference to debates of Legis sufferers, ( qn.) 2678, ( qn.) 3788. lative Council, 895. Volunteer fire fighters: Loss of income, ( qn.) 2679. Location of fires lit on Rulings and Statements as Deputy " total fire ban day ", ( qn.) 2679. Speaker- Application of State Disaster Plan, Bills Declared Private - Mildura (Rating ( qn.) 2680. Destruction of livestock, on Unimproved Values) Bill, 112; ( qn.) 3026. Grass fire at Lancefield, South Melbourne (Unimproved Rating 3227, 3228. (See also "Country Fire Poll) Bill, 370. Authority.") Clerk, The - Leave of absence, 312. Debate - Interjections, 123, 127, 128, Bush Nursing Hospitals - Government 250, 874, 1770, 2234, 3043, 3574, 3677, grants, 389. 3679, 4613. Relevancy of remarks, 124, Business of the House--Order of business, 727, 729, 1435, 1605, 1691, 1692, 373, 2836, 2939, 3417, 3910, 3911, 3967, 1712, 1715, 1804, 1865, 1976, 2472, 3971, 4022, 4024, 4216, 4217, 4419. 2752, 3066, 3409, 3411, 3414, 3668, 3800, Budget debate, 405, 406. Days and 4187, 4456, 4458. Member not to hours of meeting, 1165, 1901. debate Select Committee's report until LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (59)

Chairman of Committees, The (Mr. J. A. Christie, Mr. Vernon-continued. Rafferty )-continued. Standing Orders - References to debates tabled, 130. Member not to debate in Legislative Council, 55. matter raised on personal explanation, Supply, 55. 406. Raising of matters relating to Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4472, Government administration on motion 4477, 4480, 4483. for adjournment of sitting, lll6, 4217. Proposed amendment not to be debated during second reading, 1673. Reference Christmas Felicitations, 2579. to newspaper report of debates, 1692. Churchill-Establishment of town, (qn.) Reference to debates in Legislative 3029. Cost, ( qn.) 3960. (See also Council, 2080. Use of expression "Hazelwood.") objected to, 3383. Referring to mem Cigarettes - Advertising, health dangers ber by other than his electoral district, and education, (qns.) 4093, 4416. 3518. Scope of debate during third reading stage, 3910. Cinemas - Ownership, employment and Parliamentary Refreshment Rooms municipal control, (qn.) 1962. Accounts, 4218. Civil Aviation-Correspondence with Prime Senate Vacancy - Joint meeting of Minister, (qn.) 104. Houses, 1973. Civil Defence and State Disaster Planning -Organization and expenditure, ( qn.) Chairmen of Committees, Temporary - 1958. Appointments, 35. Chief Secretary's Department-1964-65 Clarey, Mr. R. A. (Melbourne). Budget statement, 91. Basic Wage-Increase, 378. Children's Court {Admission to Hearings) Budget for Year 1964-65, 374. Bill - Introduction and first reading, Commonwealth Government-Financial 3001; second reading, 3033, 3381; re agreement between Commonwealth maining stages, 3381. and States, 383. Children's Court (Amendment) Bill - Re Commonwealth Pay-roll Tax-Payments ceived from Council and first reading, by Government authorities, 243. 356; second reading, 373, 802; remain Validity, 382. ing stages, 804. Co-operative Housing Societies-Ad- vances under Commonwealth-State Housing Agreement, 892. Secretaries, Christie, Mr. Vernon (Ivanhoe). 892. Country Fire Authority Bill, 3410. Co-operative Housing Societies (Indem Decentralization Advisory Committee nites) Bill, 1990. Bill, The 1707, 2091, 2098. Electoral Provinces and Districts Bill, Education (School Committees) Bill, 3986. 2103. Farm Produce Merchants and Commis Glenroy to Tullamarine Railway Con sion Agents Bill, 3888. struction Bill, 3900. Friendly Societies (Assignment of Con La Trobe University Bill, 1103. tracts) Bill, 1978. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Housing-Home Finance Fund No. 2, Works - South-eastern interceptor 1296, 1456. sewer, 58. Housing Commission-Applications for Personal Explanation - Statement in and allotment of Darby and Joan and debate, 405. single-unit flats, 369. Public Works Loan Application Bill, lll4. Insurance Companies - Authorized in Railway Funds Bill, 1815. surers, 314. Motor car third-party Railway Loan Application Bill, 1133. business, 314. State Motor Car Insur Road Traffic - Congestion in Heidelberg- ance Office, 314. road, 359. Justices (Registration) Bill, 3038, 3051. Road Traffic (Infringments) Bill, 4626. Land Tax (Rates and Exemptions) Bill, Stamps Bill, 1867. 1504. (60) INDEX.

Clarey, Mr. R. A-continued. Clean Air Committee - Air pollution: Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Measurement, areas affected, and Works-Acquisition of property for breaches of regulations (qn.) 110. ring road, 2974. Deputation from Oakleigh City Coun Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of cil, 358. Discharge of smoke and fumes Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 2932, from Geelong locomotive sheds, (qn.) 3086. 369. Finance, (qn.) 649. Escape of Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways fumes at Yarraville, 3226, 3228. In Board-Financial result of tram and vestigations in Geelong area, ( qn.) bus operations, 109. Increased fares, 3365, 4343, 4345. Members, ( qn.) 379. 4417. Meetings, (qn.) 4417. Law en Melbourne Sailors' Home Bill, 2229. forcement and prosecutions, (qn.) Municipal Association (Accident Insur 4417. ance) Bill, 1108. Clerk, The-Leave of absence, 312. Public Accounts-Surpluses and deficits, Closer Settlement (Regulations) Bill-Intro 374. duction and first reading, 62; second Railway Department-Increased freights reading, 68, 206; Committee, 208; re and charges, 377. Railway Equaliza maining stages, 209. tion Account, 377. Loan liability, 1762. Interest and sinking fund payments, 1762. Operating ·results on passenger, Cochrane, Mr. L. J. (Gippsland West). goods and livestock traffic, 1763. Dandenong Valley Authority (Amend· Railway Funds Bill, 1809, 1818. ment) Bill, 3378. Railways (Long Service Leave) Bill, Education Department-Land at Ellin 1107. bank State School, 1658. Statement re School Libraries-Subsidies, 785. Ex head master of Drouin High School, penditure, 785. 4343. Stamp Duty-Increases, 380. Justices (Registration) Bill, 3049. State Electricity Commission-Increased Kirrak Coal Mine-Mishap, 650, 696, 703. tariffs, 379. Police Department-Police station at State Finances-Interest and sinking fund Longwarry, 2680. charges on deficits, 243. San Remo-Phillip Island Bridge-Plans, State Insurance Funds Bill, 209, 213. specifications and tenders for new State Insurance Office-Motor car third bridge, 4280. party business, 314. Competition with State Electricity Commission-Electricity private companies, 384. supply to Cape Paterson, 2740. State Savings Bank-Extension of activi State Rivers and Water Supply Commis ties, 384. sion-Valuation, rates and revenue of Superannuation {Time for Election) Bill, urban water supply districts, 2644. 1970. Reticulated water supply to Cape Taxation-Reintroduction of State in Paterson, 2746. Acquisition of property come tax, 380. for dam site at Neerim, 3286. Town Planning-Proposed ring road through East Melbourne and Jolimont, Commonwealth Aid Roads Agreement - 185. Availability of funds to Country Roads Uniform Taxation-Per capita grants to Board, (qn.) 108. States, 313. Reimbursement formula, Commonwealth Arbitration Commission 313, 376. Special grants, 378. Universities - Government grants for Functioning, 730. university colleges, 972. Commonwealth Government - Financial Workers Compensation (Amendment) agreement with States, 383. With Bill, 3508. drawal of special grant, 436, 569. Rulings and Statements as Acting Chair Financial relations with State, 755, 911, man- 924. Debate-Interjections, 533. Commonwealth Parliamentary Association -Meeting, 1768. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (61)

Commonwealth States Grants (Water Consumers Protection Bill - Introduction Resources) Act - Allocations to Vic and first reading, 518; second reading, toria, ( qn.) 2686. 651, 1169; Committee, 1194, 1413; remaining stages, 1426. Council amend Companies - Investigations and reports, ments dealt with, 2232. Message from (qn.) 105. Reid Murray group, (qn.) Council re free conference, 2569. 105; directors' fees and travelling ex Further message from Council dealt penses, (qn.) 364, (qn.) 423; antici with, 2577. pated losses, ( qns.) 364, 423; report of inspectors, (qn.) 2637, 2979. Stan Co-operative Housing Societies. (See hill Development Finance Limited: Re "Housing.") port, 247, 397, 726; directors' fees and Co-operative Housing Societies (Indem· travelling expenses, (qn.) 364, (qn.) nities) Bill - Appropriation resolution, 423, 727; anticipated losses, ( qns.) 1767; first reading, 1767; second read· 364, 423. Overseas capital invested, ing, 1776, 1979, 1987; Committee, 1990, 29, 393. Takeovers, 394. Increase of 2072; remaining stages, 2073. capital, 397. Taxation payments, 448. Country Fire Authority-Provision of static Directors' salaries, 727. Factors Limited, water supplies in Dandenong Ranges, 1543. Stabilization of share values, 119. Use of Civil Aviation Department's 2603, 2604. Unilever (Australia) equipment, (qn.) 2735. Equipment of Proprietary Limited: Staff retrench Y arrawonga fire brigade, ( qn.) 2735. ments, (qn.) 2686. Payne's Properties Full-time chairman: Appointment and Proprietary Limited: Report of inspec salary, (qn.) 4091. (See also "Bush tors, (qn.) 2979. Action against fraudu Fires.") lent companies, 4510. Albion Quarries Country Fire Authority Bill-Introduction Limited: Report of inspector, 4546. and first reading, 3228; second reading, 3292, 3397; r~maining stages, 3414. Companies (Amendment) Bill - Received Country Fire Authority (Borrowing Powers) from Council and first reading, 3225· Bill- Introduction and first reading, second reading, 3290, 4639; remaining 112; second reading, 115, 282; remain stages, 4648. ing stages, 287. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 1)-All Country Roads (Amendment) Bill-Intro stages, 56. duction and first reading, 62; second reading, 72, 690; Committee and Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 2)-All remaining stages, 694. stages, 926. Country Roads Board Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 3)-All Administration-Dispute with contractor stages, 982. re work at Keilor, 1028, 1029. Finance-Receipts and expenditure in Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 4)-All years 1963-64 and 1964-65, (qn.) 183, stages, 4513. 188. Allocations to municipalities, Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 5)-All (qns.) 184, 314, 424, 571, 1406. Ex stages, 4547. penditure in metropolitan area, (qn.) 314, 823, (qns.) 2639, 4092. Funds Constitution Act Amendment (Responsible available, and divisional expenditure, Ministers) Bill, The-Introduction and (qns.) 973, 1074. Repayments by first reading, 36; second reading, 36; municipalities, ( qn.) 2298. Revenue appropriation resolution, 38; Commit from motor registration fees, ( qn.) tee and third reading, 38. 3481. Plant-Purchase and use of snow plough, Constitution Act Amendment (Subordinate (qn.) 511. Legislation Committee) Bill, The - Roads and Bridges-Metropolitan road Appropriation resolution, 3368; intro construction in years 1963-64 and duction and first reading, 3368; second 1964-65, (qn.) 184, 188, (qn.) 2639. reading, 3587, 3792; remaining stages, Cost of reconstruction of roads in 3793. Albert Park, (qn.) 367. Condi.tion of (62) INDEX.

Country Roads Board-continued. Crick, Mr. G. R.--continued. Hume Highway, 548, 600. Condition of Transport Regulation Board-Lack of co highways, 600. Standard of country operation with Railway Department roads, 734; need for widening, 925. and Housing Commission re establish Construction of coast road between ment of housing estates, 4506. Marlo and Mallacoota, 805. Sealing of Werribee Waterworks District (Aboli Princes Highway, 805. Princes bridge, tion) Bill, 3378. Newtown: Construction and estimates of cost, (qn.) 973. Declaration of high Crimes (Amendment) Bill - Introduction ways, (qn.) 1304. New bridge at Keilor, and first reading, 112; second reading, (qn.) 1306, (qn.) 2070, 2135, 2138; dis 189, 786; Committee, 788; remaining pute with contractor, (qn.) 2070; delay stages, 794. Council amendment dealt in opening, (qn.) 2070. Heidelberg with, 1690. road, Northcote: Apportionment of Crimes (Illegal Use of Motor Cars) Bill cost and traffic control, ( qn.) 1659. Introduction and first reading, 3030; Darebin creek: Provision of crossing second reading, 3369, 3834; remaining at Preston, (qn.) 1963. Mutilation of stages, 3838. Council amendments signs on Fern Tree Gully-road, 2010, dealt with, 4154. 2011. Restoration of bush fire damage, Crimes (Parole) Bill-Introduction and first (qn.) 2971, 3565. New San Remo-Phil reading, 3368; second reading, 3485, lip Island bridge: Plans, specifications 3584, 3793; remaining stages, 3795. and tenders, (qn.) 4280. Croatian Liberation Movement-Report of activities, 357, 359. Police report, (qn.) Crick, Mr. G. R. (Grant). 785. Cultural Centre--Collapse of concrete bay, Altona Railway Extension Bill, 2900, 2910, 343, ( qns.) 366, 422. Estimated cost, 2912. (qn.) 2636. Work schedule and com Delinquent Boys' Training Centre pletion date, ( qn.) 2636. Proposed establishment at Altona West, 1764. Game (Black Swans) Bill, 855. D. Grain Elevators (Borrowing) Bill, 269. Dairying Industry-" Reduced" cream, (qn.) Housing Commission-Lack of co-opera- 704. Powdered skim milk, (qn.) 974. tion with Railway Department and Dandenong Valley Authority-Establish Transport Regulation Board in estab ment, 118. lishing housing estates, 4506. Dandenong Valley Authority (Amendment) Mines (Exploration Licences) Bill, 2118, Bill - Introduction and first reading, 2125, 2126. 3228; second reading, 3280, 3377; Municipalities--Construction of pedes appropriation resolution, 3378; Commit trian subways, 700. tee and remaining stages, 3378. Police Department-Vandalism in Bray brook-Maidstone area: Suggested in Darcy, Mr. T. A. (Polwarth). crease in police personnel, 1764. Cadet Surveyors Bill, 2196, 2209. Railway Department-Lack of co-opera Chowilla Dam-Supply levels, 247. tion with Housing Commission and Commonwealth States Grants (Water Re- Transport Regulation Board re estab sources) Act-Allocations to Victoria, lishment of housing estates, 4506. 2686. . Road Traffic-Accidents, casualties, and Consumers Protection Bill, 1417. breaches of speed limits on Western Dandenong Valley Authority (Amend Highway, Sunshine, 826. ment) Bill, 3228, 3280, 3378. School Crossings--Construction of over- Decentralized Industries - Discretionary passes, 4022. licences for hire and reward carriers, Shell Pipelines Bill, 2314. 702. La Mode Industries Pty. Ltd., Supply, 4506. Traralgon and Morwell: Retrenchment Teaching Service (Amendment) Bill~ and re-employment of female staff, 4591, 4592. 3028. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (63)

Darcy, Mr. T. A.-continued. Darcy, Mr. T. A.-continued. Game (Black Swans) Bill, 858. Water Supply-Bellarine Peninsula: Con Latrobe Valley (Amendment) Bill, 189, nexions to pipe-line, 892; water supply, 268. 2895. Urban Districts: Rateable pro Latrobe Valley Development Advisory perty, 2644; valuations, 2644; revenue, Committee-Disbursement of grants and 2644. Reticulated supply to Cape Pater subsidies, 2300. Recommendations, son, 2746. Permanent supply for Ban 2432, 3787, 3963. nockburn area, 2895. British Water Mildura Irrigation and Water Trusts Resources Board: Statement on nuclear (Amendment) Bill, 2802, 2899, 3158. desalinization, 3286. Mines Department-Tragedy at Mary Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 1075, borough mine, 2784. Satety measures 1121, 1454. for old mine shafts, 2837. Old mine Werribee Waterworks District (Abolition) shafts at Stawell, 3147. Bill, 3228, 3280. Mines (Exploration Licences) Bill, 1589, 1899, 2121, 2122, 2123, 2125, 2126, 2232. Wilson's Promontory-Erection of motel, Momington Reservoir--Caravan park, 3786. 1308. Motor Boats-Facilities: Payments from Deaths. (See " Hogan, The late Hon. Edmond Tourist Development Fund, 703. John," cc Lind, The late Hon. Sir Albert Mount Buffalo-Tourist facilities at Cresta Eli," cc Macfarlan, The late Hon. Ian " Valley, 4093. and cc Mibus, The late Hon. Wilfred Pesticides-Dangers associated with John.") "1080" poison and other pesticides, Decentralization-Establishment of indus 3963. tries in country areas, 116, 399, 734, Points of Order-Statement in debate, 810. Suggested advisory committee, 2124. Relevancy of remarks, 2124. 225. Effect of increased rail freights, Public Water Supplies (Fluoridation) Bill, 324. Need for balanced development, 1215. 329. Allocations from Decentralization Sewerage Districts Bill, 704, 710, 867, Fund, 432. Establishment of industries 1504. at Ballarat, 732. Freedom of transport, Speaker, The-Leave of absence, 3608. 733. Development of rural areas, 809. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis Encouragement of, 2479. La Mode In sion-Removal of flood gates on South dustries Pty. Ltd.: Employment, (qn.) Gippsland Highway at Tooradin, 110. 3028. Provision of homes by Housing Levee bank at SawteU's Inlet, 110. Commission, ( qn.) 3286. Frankston sewerage scheme, 1120. Running levels of irrigation channels, Decentralization Advisory Committee Bill, 2645. Acquisition of property for dam The-Introduction and first reading, site at Neerim, 3286. Gannawarra 1498; second reading, 1498, 1694; appro Picanniny drainage scheme, 3365. priation resolution, 1715; Committee, Acquisition of properties and compensa 1716, 2088; remaining stages, 2102. tion for water conservation schemes, Decimal Currency - Teaching in schools, 3365. Irrigation districts and surpluses, (qn.) 1166. 3483. Assaults on water bailiffs, 3484. Dental Health - Shortage of dentists in Use of Pyramid creek as irrigation country areas, 329. water carrier, 4416. (See also cc Water Dental Hospital-Reconstruction and use Supply.") of old building, (qn.) 3144. Unilever (Australia) Proprietary Limited -Staff retrenchments, 2686. Department of Agriculture- Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill (No. 2), Administration-Suggested increase in 4314, 4315. extension services, 46. Need for agri Water (Amendment) Bill, 3229, 3281, cultural research station for Bendigo 3606. and district, 400. Work of seed testing Water Bill, 518, 704, 1609, 1611, 2304. laboratories, 3565. Water (Recreational Areas) Bill, 1590, Agricultural and Pastoral Societies-In 1783, 2002, 2003. creased grants, 32, 94. · (64) INDEX.

Department of Agriculture-continued. Department of Labour and Industry-con- Agricultural Economics Branch-Expan tinued. sion, 32. Safety-Standards, 904. Barrel Clover-Use, (qn.) 827. Staff--Inspection staff: Overtime, long Diseases-Incidence of " Take All " service and annual leave, (qn.) 1963. disease, 1215. Number of inspectors and duties, (qn.) 2973. Finance-1964-65 Budget statement, 93. Trading-Hours of, 747. Inspectors, (qn.) Information and Publicity· Branch. 1587. Status, 32. Disposal of Uncollected Goods (Damaged Pesticides-Effects of dieldrin ( qn.) Motor Cars) Bill - Introduction and 3482. Use of compound 1080, (qn.) first reading, 112; second reading, 201, 3963. (See also "Dairying Industry.") 679; remaining stages, 681. Council Department of Health- amendments dealt with, 1635. Ambulance Services-Training of ambu Distinguished Visitor-Lord Glendevon, 313. lance officers, 2462. Creches, Infant Welfare Centres and Kindergartens-Government allocation Divers, Mr. W. T. (Footscray). 389. ' Budget for Year 1964-Q5, 595. Finance-1964-65 Budget statement, 92. Bush Fires-Ministerial statement, 3178. Immunization Programmes-Infection of Consumers Protection Bill, 1180. children rece1vmg immunization at Education Department-Fire risk at Mari- 2940. Echuca, (qn.) 315. Sterilization equip byrnong High Schoo1', ment and method, (qn.) 315. Hospitals-Increased charges, 596. Infectious Diseases-Number of cases Landlord and Tenant Act-Increased notified, ( qn.) 827. rents, 596. Leukaemia-Deaths, ( qn.) 424. Causes, Local Authorities Superannuation (Amendment) Bill, 713. (qn.) 425. Notification, (qn.) 425. Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Meat Industry-Inspection of meat for Board-Increased fares, 596. overseas consumption, 391. Motorists-Increased drivers' licence fees, Mental Hygiene Branch-(See "Mental Health Authority.") 595. Parliament House - Renovations to Poliomyelitis-Incidence, (qn.) 827. kitchen, 597. Proprietary Medicines-Registration, (qn.) Police Department-Press statement re 974. Advertising, (qn.) 974. Require report of Mr. J. T. Cusack, 2971. ments of Health Act, ( qn.) 974. Shortage of police in Maidstone area, Tuberculosis-Compulsory chest X-ray 4506. examinations, (qn.) 517. Radiation, Railway Department-Increased fares, (qn.) 517. 595. Venereal Diseases-Incidence, ( qn.) 4418. Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 4624. Department of Labour and Industry- State Accident Insurance Office--Compe tition with private enterprise, 971. Apprenticeship - Administration, 905. Statement by Commonwealth Concilia State Electricity Commission-Briquetting tion Commissioner, (qn.) 3367. plants Nos. 3 and 4: Cost of storage and maintenance, 366, 597; disposal Boilers and Pressure Vessels Inspectorate value, 366, 597. -Reports of Chief Inspector, (qns.) 701, 1963. Salaries, (qn.) 785. Number State Finances-Capital debt, 363. Loans of boiler inspectors, ( qn.) 786. Inspec for railways, 363. tions, ( qn.) 1765. (See also " Boilers State Savings Bank-Competition with Inspection (Amendment) Bill.") private enterprise, 971. Long Service Leave-Legislation, 902. Supply, 4506. Representations of Trades Hall Council Taxation-State income tax, 595. (qn.) 1119. ' LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (65)

Divisions- Divisions--continued. Aborigines (Amendment) Bill-On Stamps Bill-On second-reading motion. amendment to second-reading motion, 1872. On clause 2, 1874. On clause 3, 3706. as amended, 1877. On clause 5, 1878. Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill-On On clause 6, 1879. On clause 7, as clause 3, 2009. amended, 1881. Budget Debate-On motion " That the State Electricity Commission (Contribu vote be reduced by £1," 604. tions) Bill-On second-reading motion, 2133. Bush Fires-On amendment of motion Theatres (Sunday Films) Bill-On clause that the House take note of Ministerial 3, 2199. statement, 3225. Votes on Account, 925. Business of the House-On amendment to Workers Compensation (Amendment) Bill motion re order of business, 3978. On -On motion for adjournment of de motion re order of business, 3979. bate, 2927. On motion that Bill be con Consumers Protection Bill-On amend sidered an urgent Bill, 3503. On ment to clause 3, 1206. On amendment amendments to motion fixing time limits to clause 4, 1425. On motion not to for debate, 3513, 3514. On motion fix have free conference with Council. ing time limits for debate, 3514. On 2573. second-reading motion, 3532. On Crimes (Amendment) Bill-On clause 7. amendment to clause 2, 3542. On 793. amendment No. 1 made by Council, 4590. On motion that Assembly insist Electoral Provinces and Districts Bill-On on amendment disagreed with by second-reading motion, 4021. On third Council, 4762. reading motion, 4021. Housing (Amendment) Bill-On motion Dixon, Mr. B. J. (St. Kilda). to refer to Statute Law Revision Com mittee, 2081. On amendment to clause Budget for Year 1964-65, 353. 3, 2087. On clause 9, 2087. Consumers Protection Bill, 1187. Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill Decentralization Advisory Committee Bill, -On clause 4, 3278. The, 1714, 2088, 2092, 2096. Mines (Exploration Licences) Bill-On Education-Expenditure, 28, 355. Priority, motion for adjournment of the debate, 355. 2122. Education Department-Subsidies for school assembly halls, 29. National Parks (Amendment) Bill-On amendment to clause 2, 1620. Employment-For elderly citizens, 30. Suggested training of unskilled people, Police Force: Adequacy of-On motion 30. Comparison of position in various for adjournment of the House, 3001. States, 353. Police Offences (Betting Information) Bill Governor's Speech-Address-in-Reply, 27. -On clause 3, 1681. Housing-Interest rates, 29. Needs of Railway Department: Derailments-On elderly people, 30. motion for adjournment of the House, Housing Commission-Slum reclamation, 853. 29. Suggested advertising of services, Railways (Funds) Bill-On clause 2, 1819. 30. Indu~tries-Overseas investments, 29. Roads (Special Projects) Bill-On second La Trobe University Bill, 1018. reading motion, 4149. On clause 8, as Local Government (St. Kilda and Elwood amended, 4342. Land Reclamation) Bill, 715. Shell Pipelines Bill-On second-reading Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of motion, 2321. Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 2812, Spensley-street State School No. 3146, 3085. Clifton Hill-On motion for adjourn Personal Explanation-Statement in de ment of the House, 268. bate, 2824. 5372165.-3 (66) INDEX.

Dixon, Mr. B. J.-continued. Dunstan, Mr. R. C.-continued. Police Department-Accosting of women Public Works Department-Purchase of in St. Kilda area, 4764. units for Education Department, 586. Prices-Consumer price index, 354. Sale of Land Bill, 3815, 3833. Taxation-Level of State taxation, 31. Speaker-Election, 19. State income tax, 355. Retention of Stamps Act-Appeal by Mr. J. D. Paxton uniform taxation, 355. Petty against decisions of Comptroller Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4212. of Stamps, 1118. Workers Compensation (Amendment) State Administration-Number of mem Bil1, 3553. bers of Parliament, 2295. Employees in Government Departments and instru mentalities, 2295. Dried Fruits. (See " Victorian Dried Fruits State Electricity Commission-Power line Board.") from Frankston to BP refinery at Crib Point, 3962. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis Dunstan, Mr. R. C. (Mornington). sion-Removal of flood gates on South Advertising-Prosecutions for false and Gippsland Highway at Tooradin, 109. misleading statements, 2890. Levee bank at Sawtell's Inlet, 109. Australian Congress for International Co Frankston sewerage scheme, 1120. operation and Disarmament, 182. Subordinate Legislation (Amendment) Budget for Year 1964-65, 583. Bill, 3800. Education Department-High and tech Supply, 906. nical school facilities in Mornington Traffic Commission-Parking in Nepean electoral district, 2892. Participation Highway, Frankston, 908. of teachers in civic affairs, 2973. Im Uniform Taxation-Reimbursements, 585. provement of school grounds at Frank ston East State School, 4410. Cor respondence from Frankston East State E. School Committee, 4410. Education-Government expenditure, 28, Electoral-South-Eastern Province by 221, 355, 388, 2349. Need for public election, 906. inquiry, 118. Research on educational Fisheries and Wildlife Department attainments of aboriginal children, (qn.) Scallop industry in Port PhiHip Bay, 106. Increased costs, 334. Financial 909. allocation, 580. Commonwealth assi9t French Island Penal Settlement-Escapes ance, 581. Elevation of technical col of prisoners, 1118. leges to degree status, 720, 750. Housing Commission-Decentralized in Benefits of, 751. Teaching of decimal dustries: Provision of homes for em currency in schools, (qn.) 1166. Adult ployees, 3286. Cost of slum reclamation, education: Use of school facilities, 2442, 3287. 2443. Sex education, 2463. Attendances Justices (Registration) Bill, 3047. at State, private and independent Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, schools, (qn.) 3284. Resolution of 3249. Liberal Party State Council, 4496. Law Department--Construction of court house at Dromana, 3026. Education Department- Mornington Peninsula-Public transport Administration-Programme for three services, 975. years commencing 1964-65, 117. Need Mornington Reservoir-Establishment of for off-street parking facilities, 402. caravan park, 1308, 1310. System of appointing district inspec Onion Marketing Board-Members, 2894. tors, 430. Suggested appointment of Marketing of odourless onions, 2894. accountants to schools, 431. Suggested Amounts owing to Board by agents, adoption of extension and diagnostic 2894. Acreage of onions, 2895. aids department, 722. Control of De Point of Order-Statement in debate, 1227. partment, 915. Open days at Oakleigh Public Accounts-Need for increased schools, 1028, 1029. Blue Book: Supply revenue, 587. of copies, 1258. Applications for Com- LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (67)

Education Department-continued. Education Department-continued. monwealth grants for science blocks, Primary Schools--Condition of Spensley ( qn.) 1405. Availability of Martin re street, Clifton Hill, State School, 248; port, (qn.) 2637. Examinations: Publi outbreak of hepatitis, 1215. Condition cation of results of external examina of Fawkner North school, 562, 813. tions, (qn.) 2638; internal examina Pupil-teacher ratio, 563. Accommoda tions, (qn.) 2638. Holiday granted by tion at HE~len-street, Northcote, State Governor-General, 3226, 3227, (qn.) School, ( qn.) 1118. Accommodation at 3284. Fire drill in State schools, ( qn.) Keilor Heights, ( qn.) 1303. Extensions 3640. Statement re head master at at Kallista State School, 1456, 1457. Drouin High School, 4343, 4344. Quarrying operations near Fyansford Cuisenaire system, (qn.) 4410. State School, 2442, 2444. Need for Assembly Halls-Increased subsidy, 29, school at Western Heights, Geelong, (qn.) 2297. 2442, (qn.) 3284. Toolern Vale: Alter Ballarat School of Mines-History, 732. native accommodation, 2674, 2676. Up-grading to degree-conferring insti Carnegie State School: Accident at tution, 925. school crossing, (qn.) 2979. New Class-rooms-Overcrowding, 813. schools for Sale and Traralgon, (qn.) Finance-1964-65 Budget statement, 88. 3027. Sanitary conditions at Fern Tree Additional allocation, 352.. Expendi Gully North State School, 37ll, 3712. ture, 916. Gold-street, Clifton Hill, State School: Free Milk Scheme-Finance, (qn.) 3284. Repairs and renovations, ( qn.) 4091. Consumption, (qn.) 3284. Number of Frankston East State School: Ground children supplied, (qn.) 3284. improvement, (qn.) 4410; correspond High Schools-Seymour High School: ence from school committee, (qn.) Contract for new science block, (qn.) 4410. Glenroy West State School: 107. Castlemaine High School: Site Work in grounds, 4508. North Park problems and construction of new State School: Shortage of accommoda buildings, (qn.) 107. Brunswick High tion, 4509. Pupils-Matriculation book allowance 90 School: Establishment, 389, 392; 1 number of students and class-rooms, 334. Allowances for necessitous c~ses ( qn.) 3027; completion, ( qn.) 3027. 90. Conveyance allowances to regionai Need in inner eastern suburbs, 721. technical schools, 2135, 2137; for private Frankston High School: Alleged distri schools, 4509. Subjects available for bution of political literature, ll 16, ll 17. matriculation, 2441, 2443. Number Maribyrnong High School: Fire danger, ( qn.) 2625. Student population in 2940, 2941. Flemington High School: Carlton, Collingwood and Fitzroy Construction and temporary accommo areas, (qn.) 2637. Intermediate, leaving dation, ( qn.) 1118. Files re Moreland and matriculation examinations: Pass High School, (qn.) 1405. Zoning and failure rates, (qn.) 2681. Second system, 2345. Proposed Strath ary and technical school examinations: Park High School, 2346. Melbourne Pass and failure rates, (qn.) 2682. High School: Caretaker's residence, Examination charges, ( qn.) 2739. 2443, 2444. Fitzroy High School: Min Scholarships-Increase, 90. Commonwealth isterial inspection, ( qn.) 2683. New scholarships: Confidential circular, ( qn.) high school at Sale, (qn.) 3027. Broad 365; conditions, 2440, 2443. Junior meadows· High School: Work in school scholarships: Conditions of award, 564. grounds, 3320. Oakleigh High School: School Buildings-Need for schools to be Facilities, ( qn.) 3481. Murrumbeena completed by commencement of new High School: Newspaper report, 4216, school year, 402. Need for different 4218. type of school construction, 402. Sug Land-Files re purchase of land at Leon gested establishment of building branch, gatha and Traralgon, (qns.) 1496, 1658. 429. Maintenance, 456. Portable Exchange of land at Ellinbank, (qn.) class-rooms, ( qn.) 5ll. Sewerage in 1658. country, 733. Disposal of Moolap State Libraries-Subsidies and expenditure, School building and land, (qn.) 891. ( qn.) 785, 2438, 2443, 4497. Building projects in Carlton, Colling- (68) INDEX.

Education Department-continued. Egg and Egg Pulp Marketing Board wood and Fitzroy areas, (qn.) 2637. Closure of premises: At Oakleigh (qn.) Rooms provided, ( qn.) 2785. Suggested 3787; at Bendigo, (qn.) 4282. (See use of old Orbost hospital, 4494. Pro also " Marketing of Primary Products gramme, 4496. (Egg Marketing) Bill.") Electoral-Representation of Toorak, 755. School Committees and Councils-Estab Redistribution, 812. By-election for lishment, constitution and membership, South-Eastern Province, 893, 900, 906, ( qns.) 106, 244. Financial assistance, (qn.) 1302. Ballot-papers: Naming of (qns.) 106, 244. Mothers' clubs, (qn.) candidates in alphabetical order, 2464. 2069. Witnessing of absentee votes, 2464. Secondary Schools-Status of central Payment of postage on postal votes, schools, 722. Swifts Creek Higher 2464. Electrical district and provinces: Elementary School, ( qn.) 891. Develop Number of electors and population, ment of facilities, 913. Erection of ( qn.) 2630. Extent of metropolitan science blocks, ( qn.) 1765. Overcrowd area, ( qn.) 2630. ing, 2345. Enrolments in Mornington Electoral Provinces and Districts Bill - Electoral District, (qn.) 2892; establish Introduction and first reading, 3485; ment of schools, (qn.) 2892. second reading, 3575, 3979; appropria tion resolution, 4021; third reading, Special Schools-Number, (qn.) 2682. 4021. Enrolments, (qn.) 2682. Educational Employment-Training of unskilled people, standard, (qn.) 2682. Croxton Special 30. Of elderly citizens, 30. Com School: Tenders for additions, (qn.) parison of position throughout Com 2739; defects, ( qn.) 2739. monweal th, '353. Sporting Equipment-Provision, 2349. Equal Pay for Sexes, 4489. Teachers-Accommodation for country Estate Agents Bill-Introduction and first teachers, 328. Payment of emergency reading, 1312; second reading, 1410; 1683; Committee and remaining stages, teachers, 430. Temporary teachers, 1690. (qn.) 1074. Primary teachers: Appli cations and rejections, (qn.) 2681. Par Estimates - Estimates of expenditure for August, September and October, 1964, ticipation in civic affairs, ( qn.) 2973. brought down, 38. Supplementary Numbers qualified and unqualified, Estimates for year 1963-64, 100, 976. (qn.) 4411. Estimates of revenue and expenditure Technical Schools-Facilities in country for the year 1964-65 brought down, 78. areas, 221, 327. Establishment of Discussed: Parliament, 2344; Premier's Swinburne Technical College, 720. Department, 2344, 2436; Chief Secre Benalla Technical School: Tenders for tary's Department, 2437; Department works, (qn.) 973. Broadmeadows of Labour and Industry, 2438; Educa Technical School: Condition of grounds, tion Department, 2438; Attorney General's Department, 2444; Treasurer's 2010; provision of caretaker's resi Department, 2449, 2454; Lands Depart dence, (qn.) 3481. Maryborough Tech ment, 2454; Public Works Department, nical College: Withdrawal of university 2454; Local Government Department, recognition, ( qn.) 2070; installation of 2454; Mines Department, 2454; Forests three-phase power, 2136, 2137. Geelong Department, 2455; Water Supply Technical School: Classes, extensions Department, 2455; Department of and improvements, (qn.) 2973. Techni Agriculture, 2455; Department of cal school for Belmont, (qn.) 2973. Health, 2456; Railway Construction, Accommodation at Keon Park, ( qn.) 2456; State Coal Mine, 2457; Ministry 4411. Catering and hotel administra of Transport, 2457; Railway Depart· tion course, 4497. ment, 2457. Estimates of expenditure Education (School Committees) Bill-Intro for July, August and September, 1965, duction and first reading, 1589; second brought down, 3228. Supplementary reading, 1773, 2102; Committee and re Estimates for year 1964-65, 3965, 4546. maining stages, 2103. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (69)

Evans, Mr. A. T. (Ballaarat North). Evans, Mr. B. J.-continued. Ballarat School of Mines-Suggested con· Debate - Withdrawal of statement ferring of degrees, 925. objected to, 577. Commonwealth Pay-roll Tax-Payments Decentralization-Discretionary licences by State Government, 924. for hire and reward carriers, 702. Commonwealth-State Financial Relation· Development of rural areas, 809. ships-Loan liability, 924. Establishment of industries in country Co-operative Housing Societies-Finances, centres, 810. 4217. Decentralization Advisory Committee Bill, Country Roads Board-Need for finance The, 1702, 2091, 2100. to widen country roads, 925. Education Department - Swifts Creek Decentralization Advisory Committee Bill, Higher Elementary School, 891. Holi The, 1697. day for school children, 3226. Use of Education-Martin report on tertiary old Orbost hospital building, 4494. education, 365. Electoral Provinces ·and Districts Bill, Library Services-Report of Board of 4010. Inquiry, 1583. Government action, 1583. Estimates for Year 1964-65, 2437. Municipal Association (Accident Insu Farm Produce and Commission Agents rance) Bill, ll 10. Bill, 4568. Personal Explanation-Statement in Fisheries and Game (Reduced Licence debate, 4746. Fees) Bill, 671. Pesticides Bill, 1629. Fishing Industry-Investigation of tuna Petrol Tax-Reimbursements, 925. fisheries by Commonwealth and Tas Railway Department-Freight on super· manian Governments, 2437, 3959. phosphate, wheat and oats, 924. Con Forests (Amendment) Bill, 2206, 2208. tribution to exports, 925. Forests Commission-Timber resources Road Traffic Regulations-Sturt-street, of Errinundra plateau, 3485, 4493. Ballarat, 3910. Revenue and expenditure, 3640. Royal State Electricity Commission-Transfer of ties, 3640. Personnel engaged on fire Daylesford employees, 4764. fighting, 3640. Supply, 924. Game (Black Swans) Bill, 857. Swine Compensation Fund-Credits and Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, debits, ll67. Maximum compensation 804. payable, ll67. Grievance Day-Observance, 4491. Uniform Taxation-System, 924. . Hospitals-Increased charges, 460. Orbost Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4459. hospital, 461, 4494. Victorian Inland Meat Authority (Amend- Housing (Amendment) Bill, 2080. ment) Bill, 2755. Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, 3262. Lakes Entrance-Registration of fishing Evans, Mr. B. J. (Gippsland East). boats, 245. Sand-bar problem, 245, 461. Aborigines (Amendment) Bill, 3669. Land Settlement in East Gippsland, 804. Budget for Year 1964-65, 457. Land (Special Grant) Bill, 206. Bush Fires-Damage, 2678. Government La Trobe University Bill, 1010. assistance, 2678, 3788. Loss of income Latrobe Valley Advisory Committee- by volunteer fire fighters, 2679. Mini Disbursement of grants and subsidies, sterial statement, 3179. 2300. Recommendations, 2432. Cattle Compensation (Amendment) Bill, Liberal and Country Party-Use of word 2704. "Country" in name, 806. Consumers Protection Bill, 1202, 1417. Mines (Exploration Licences) Bill, 2122, Country Fire Authority Bill, 3399. . 2124, 2125, 2232. Country Roads Board-Funds, 973, 1074. Motor Boats-Registration, 702. Pay Road link between Marlo and Malla ments from Tourist Development Fund coota, 805. Sealing of Princes Highway, for facilities, 702. 805. Motor Car (Hours of Driving) Bill, 2216. Death-Sir Albert Eli Lind, M.L.A., 23. 2237, 2238, 2239. (70) INDEX.

Evans, Mr. B. J.~oritinued. F. Motor Vehicles-Roadworthiness tests, Falls Creek-Expulsion of persons, (qn.) 1215. 366. Progress Association, 511. Fran National Parks (Amendment) Bill chises for ski school and equipment, (No. 2), 4198. (qn.) 826, (qn.) 1074. Provision of Pines-Private plantings, 1588. ambulance station, ( qn.) 2977. Ski-tow Points of Order-Reference to members licences, 3226, 3228, (qn.) 3285. of other House, 907. Statement in Families-Number with five or more depen debate, 3224. Member to address the dent children, (qn.) 1961. Chair, 4761. Farm Produce Merchants and Commission Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1253. Agents Bill - Introduction and first Railway Department-Increased charges, reading, 3001; second reading, 3004, 458. Development of metropolitan area, 3838; Committee, 3849, 3880; third 459. Freight rates, 460. Sunday rail reading, 3895. Council amendments motor services in Gippsland, 2743. dealt with, 4566. Fatalities and injuries in level crossing accidents, 2893. Traralgon-Sale service, 2893. Kilmany over-pass, 2893, 4491. Fennessy, Mr. L. M. (Brunswick East). Use of reflector material on railway vehicles, 4492. Brunswick Free Library - Government grant, 182. Railway Loan Application Bill, 1129. Revocation and Excision of Crown Reser- Closer Settlement (Regulations) Bill, 206. vations Bill, 672. Education Department - Condition of State school at Spensley-street, Clifton Roads (Special Projects) Bill, 4154. Hill, 258. Ministerial inspection of Sale of Land Bill, 3814. Fitzroy High School, 2683. Sheep Owners Protection (Amendment) Home Finance (Amendment) Bill, 4600. Act-Proclamation, 244. Justices (Registration) Bill, 3046. Shell Pipelines Bill, 2312, 2325, 2327. Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, Soil Conservation Authority-Erosion in 3265. East Gippsland, 809. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Stamps Act-Administration re gifts, Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 3062. 4495. Melbourne Water Supply - Recommen State Electricity Commission-Cartage of dations of Public Works Committee, electric light poles, 458. Uniform tariffs, 2735. 460. Electricity supply for Tambo Mordialloc Public Hall and Court House Valley, 972. Supply of power to Bill, 4179. Bonang-Bendoc area, 2298. " Mr. Whippy " Ice-cream - Issue of State Forests Loan Application Bill, 684. food hawker's licence, 2972. Supply, 4491. National Parks (Amendment) Bill Swine Compensation Bill, 1633. (No. 2), 4207. Taxation-Reintroduction of State income Police Department - New police station tax, 457. at Brunswick, 2785. Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill Railway Department - Level crossings (No. 2), 4309, 4316, 4321. in East Brunswick, 4023. Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4453. Sale of Land Bill, 3827. Walhalla-Preservation of cemetery, 806. Soil Conservation (Water Resources) Water (Recreational Areas) Bill, 1999. Bill, 3389, 3396. Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 1450. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis Wild Animals-Destruction of wombats, sion-Irrigation districts, 3483. Assaults foxes and wild dogs, 2743. Payment of on water bailiffs, 3484. bonuses, 2743. Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill Workers Compensation (Amendment) (No. 2), 4306. Bill, 3543, 3551, 4752. Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4463. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (71)

Fennessy, Mr. L. M.-continued. Floyd, Mr. W. L.-continued. Water (Amendment) Bill, 3599, 3607. Hansard-Weekly issue, 3849. Proofs of Workers Compensation (Amendment) members' speeches, 3849. Bill, 3512, 4757. Housing Commission - Applications for Rulings and Statements as Acting accommodation, 468, 1308. Provision Chairman- of housing for persons in necessitous Debate - Relevancy of remarks, 4557, circumstances, 468. Emerald Court 4558. Business of the House, 4562. flats, 468. Assistance for deserted wives, 1115. Units in western suburbs, 1308. Rehousing of residents of slum Ferguson, A. J., Memorial Appeal-Govern reclamation areas, 2675. Plumbing ment grant, 978. maintenance work, 2791. Legislative Assembly - Ways and Means Fisheries and Game (Reduced Licence Fees) procedure, 2480. Bill - Appropriation resolution, 370; Local Government (Amendment) Bill, introduction and first reading, 370; 4559. second reading, 372, 671; remaining Local Government (St. Kilda and Elwood stages, 672. Land Reclamation) Bill, 718. Fisheries and Wildlife Department-Protec Lower Yarra Crossing - Planning and tion of lyre birds in Sherbrooke Forest, form, 4092. 120. Scallop industry, 909. Effect of Marine (Amendment) Bill, 1801, 1807, pesticides, (qn.) 3363, 4508. 1808. Fisherman's Bend - Proposed taxi-plane Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of service, (qn.) 4416. Works - Reduction in rates, 1587, 2685. Medical examinations for visitors Fishing Industry-Fishing boats registered to, and staff at, O'Shannassy and at Lakes Entrance, (qn.) 245. Mooring Wallaby creek catchment chalets, 2892. fees for professional fishermen, ( qn.) Excess water charges, 2975. Open 2432. Investigations of tuna fishing by water channels, 3146. Commonwealth Government, 2437, Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of (qn.) 3959. Seals in Corio Bay, 3850. Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 3069. Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Board - Services, 467. Floyd, Mr. W. L. (Williamstown). Melbourne Harbor Trust - Condition of Association Football Clubs - Allocation Nelson Pier, Williamstown, 1307. of grounds, 1454. Surplus winch, 4092. Basic Wage - Increase, 465. Metropolitan Water Supply - Addition Budget for Year 1964-65, 462. of chlorine, 701. Bush Fires-Ministerial statement, 3223. Motor Boats - Registration fees, and Business of the House - Order of seaworthiness tests, 511. business, 3967, 3968. National Parks (Amendment) Bill, 1537, Clean Air Committee - Members, 4417. 1618. Meetings, 4417. Enforcement of Act Natio.1al Parks (Amendment) Bill and regulations, 4417. (No. 2), 4182, 4204, 4206. Constitution Act Amendment (Subordinate Oil Installations - Safety precautions, Legislation Committee) Bill, The, 3792. 1542. Petitions by Williamstown City Custody of Children - Court orders, Council and residents re oil storage 1302. installations and fire hazards, 518, 1763. Debate Withdrawal of statement Petitions-Oil storage installations and objected to, 3224. Apology, 3216, 3223. fire hazards at Williamstown, 518, 1763. Fisherman's Bend Aerodrome - Use as city centre taxi port, 4416. Points of Order - Relevancy of remarks, Football - Establishment of control 908, 1692, 3504. Statements in debate, board, 2481. 1544, 3225, 4755. Order of business, Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, 3967. 2479. Suggested dis-continuance of Police Department - Gaming Squad, Address-in-Reply debate, 2481. 2680. (72) INDEX.

Floyd, Mr. W. L.-continued. Free Library Service Board - Grant to Public Accounts - Surpluses and deficits, Brunswick Free Library, (qn.) 182. 465. Provision for Commonwealth personnel, Public Transport - Concessional fares 4490. for students, 4280. Friendly Societies (Assignment of Coo Public Works Loan Application Bill, tracts) Bill - Introduction and first 1325. reading, 1768; second reading, 1775, Railway Department - Increased fares, 1978; Committee and remaining stages, 466. Derailments, 853. Newport 1979. Council amendment dealt with, Altona line, 2685. Train time indica 2574. tors at Flinders-street and Spencer Fuel Oil - Competition with brown coal street stations, 3362. industry and suggested tax, (qns.) 313, Railway Loan Application Bill, 1162. 3361. Consumption by Government Shell Pipelines Bill, 2304, 2321, 2325, authorities and prices, (qn.) 359, 736, 2327. 748. Domestic consumption, (qn.) State Electricity Commission - Increased 3361. charges, 469. Royalty on brown coal, 469. Use of facilities provided by G. municipal undertakings, 470. Gainey, Mr. R. J. (Elsternwick). Subordinate Legislation (Amendment) Building Trades - Employment of ap Bill, 3795. prentices, 3786. Unilever (Australia) Proprietary Limited Bush Fires - Efficacy of equipment of -Staff retrenchments, 2686. Yarrawonga Fire Brigade, 2735. Valuation of Land (Appeals) BilJ Cigarettes - Television advertising, 4416. (No. 2), 4320, 4322. Country Roads Board - Expenditure of Valuations - Increases in net annual funds in metropolitan area, 4092. value, 2431. Education - Examination· charges, 2739. Victorian Dried Fruits Board - Consti Admission of married women and Asian tution, 3363. Meetings, 3363. Members students to universities, 2739. and allowances, 3363. Education Department - External and Workers Compensation (Amendment) internal examination systems, 2638. Bill, 3509. Egg and Egg Pulp Marketing Board - Vacation of Oakleigh premises, 3787. Football-Establishment of control board, Fisheries and Wildlife Department - Use 2481. of pesticides, 4508. Football Clubs, Association-Allocation of Gonorrhoea - Incidence, 4418. grounds, 1454, 1457. Government Printing Office - Work of staff, 4508. Forests (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and Health (Tuberculosis Arrangement) Bill, first reading, 1768; second reading, 3384. 1884, 2199; Committee, 2207; remain Librarian, The-Death of Mr. F. J. Perry, ing stages, 2209. 2733. Forests Commission-Revision of royalty Marketing of Primary Products (Egg rates, 86, 317, 323, 553. 1964-65 Marketing) Bill, 4630, 4631. Budget statement, 96. Private pine Mental Health Authority - Suggested plantations, (qn.) 1588. Extraction of release on trial of inmate at Mont Park, timber from Errinundra plateau, (qn.) 4508. 3029, ( qn.) 3485, 4493. Eradication of Municipal Rates - Houses rented by sirex wasp, (qn.) 3367. Revenue and teachers of registered schools, 3027. expenditure, (qn.) 3640. Royalties, Metropolitan racecourses, 3027. (qn.) 3641. Employees engaged in fire Pesticides - Effect on wildlife, 3363. fighting operations, (qn.) 3641. Deleterious effects of, and alternative for, dieldrin, 3482. Dangers associated Fraser, Mr. A. J. (Caulfield). with use of " 1080 " poison and other Point of Order - Statement in debate, pesticides, 3963. Investigations' by 4190. Fisheries and Wildlife Department, 4508. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (73)

Gainey, Mr. R. J.-continued. Government Departments and Instrumen· Premier's Department-Overseas creden talities - Public utilities: Properties, tials, 4508. assets and returns therefrom, ( qn.) Probation Officers - Special training 102, (qn.) 180, 339. Expenditure on class, 3640. Travelling allowances, roads in years 1963-64 and 1964-65, 3640. (qn.) 184, 188. Need for reorganiza tion, 431. Employment, 437. Use of Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 4611. contract labour, 438. Incremental pay Stratum Titles - Requirements of War ments, 863. Motor vehicles: Supply, Service Homes Division, 3145. purchase and disposal, (qn.) 3141. Supply, 4508. Public offices at Traralgon,. (qn.) 4413. Government Employees-Salaries in excess Game (Black Swans) Bill-Introduction and of £2,000 ( qn.) 181. Accommodation first reading, 704; second reading, 711, for country employees, 328. Number, 855; Committee, 859; remaining stages, (qns.) 2295, 3479. Engagements and 860. terminations, (qn.) 3479. Gas and Fuel Corporation of Victoria Government Printing Office-Work of staff, Assets, (qns.) 102, 2620. Investments, 4508. (qns.) 102, 2620. Profits (qns.) 102, 2620. Increases in charges, ( qn.) 102, Governor, His Excellency Sir Rohan Dela 317, 436, 455, 538, (qn.) 2620; re combe, K.C.M.G., K.B.E., C.B., D.S.O., bates to pensioners, ( qn.) 3026. K.St.J. - Motion for adoption of Address-in-Reply to Speech on opening Geelong-Development and growth, 590. of Parliament, 27; seconded, 32; debated, Opening of Princes Bridge, Newtown, (qn.) 891. Provision of homes, (qns.) 116, 216, 399, 718, 804, 2345, 2460. 1168, 1588, 2687, 2899. Cartage of Address-in-Reply adopted, 2484; presen clinker through Geelong West, (qn.) tation to His Excellency, 2574, 2583. 1303. Proposed new public offices, Governor, The-Appointment of Australian, (qn.) 1307. Tenancy applications, 815. (qns.) 1767, 2899. Newcombe estate, (qn.) 2899. Governor-General, The - State luncheon, Geelong Harbor Trust - Dredging pro (qn.) 2971. gramme in Corio Bay, 923. Income Grain Elevators Board-Interest and sink from investments and rents, (qn.) 2620. ing fund, (qn.) 246; use for capital Assets, (qn.) 2620. works, (qn.) 246. Reconstitution of Geelong (Kardinia Park) Land Bill-Intro Board, (qn.) 247, (qn.) 2644. Income duction and first reading, 3368; second from investments and rents, ( qn.) 2620. reading, 3375, 3590; remaining stages, Assets, (qn.) 2620. Grower representa 3592. tion, (qn.) 2644. Accounts in credit, General Sessions (Pensions of Chairmen) (qn.) 2686. Bill - Appropriation resolution, 63; Grain Elevators (Borrowing) Bill-Appro introduction and first reading, 63; priation resolution, 62; introduction and second reading, 71, 214; Committee and first reading, 63; second reading, 113, remaining stages, 215. 269; remaining stages, 278. Girl Guides. (See " Marine Stores and Old Metals (Welfare and Community Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill Organizations) Bill.") Appropriation resolution, 3368; intro duction and first reading, 3368; second Glenroy to Tullamarine Railway Construc 1 reading, 3374, 3869 ; remaining stages, tion Bill-Introduction and first read ing, 3368; second reading, 3372, 3895; 3880. Committee, 3906; third reading, 3908. Grievance Day - Suspension of Standing Government-Federal system or unifica Order, 975, 1409, 2072, 3485, 4418. tion, 594. Observance, 4491. (74) INDEX.

H. Holding, Mr. A. C.-(Richmond). "Hansard ,,_:._Weekly issue, 3849, 3850. Aborigines-Financial contributions for Hazelwood-Provision of housing, schools education of children, 106, 181. Re and infant welfare centres, (qn.) 2071. search into educational attainments of (See also "Churchill.") children, 106. Rehousing and integra tion, 2068. Lake Tyers Settlement: Hawkers and Pedlars Act-Issue of licence Population, 243; housing, 243; return to sell ice-cream, ( qn.) 2972. of former residents, 1301; future, 2467, Health. (See " Department of Health.") 2678. Conditions of aborigines in Health Act-Prosecution by South Barwon Gippsland, 2678. Shire Council, 1636. Aborigines (Amendment) Bill, 3673, 3707. Health (Household Insecticides) Bill-Re Aborigines Welfare Board-Acquisition of ceived from Council and first reading, property, 2069. Report of Dr. D. Bar 3226; second reading, 3229, 4648; re wick, 2069. maining stages, 4651. Basic Wage-Increase, 576. Budget for Year 1964-65, 574. Health (Offensive Trades) Bill-Received Business of the House-Order of business, from Council and first reading, 2102; 3976. second reading, 2114, 2484; remaining Censorship-Discussions with Common stages, 2485. wealth authorities re uniformity, 785. Health (Tuberculosis Arrangement) Bill Children's Court (Amendment) Bill, 802. Appropriation resolution, 3001; intro Cigarettes-Advertising, 4093. Health duction and first reading, 3001; second dangers, 4093. reading, 3031, 3381; remaining stages, Commonwealth and State Industrial 3384. Awards-Policing, 1405. Reciprocal Hire-purchase Agreements-Value in year arrangements, 1405. 1963-64, (qn.) 313. Consumers Protection Bill, 1184. Hogan, The Late Hon. Edmond John Crimes (Amendment) Bill, 786, 788, 789, Resolution placing on record sorrow 791, 792, 1691. at death, and appreciation of services, Croatian Liberation Movement-Activi 58. Adjournment of House as mark ties, 357, 785. of respect, 60. Cultural Centre-Estimated cost, 2636. Works schedule, 2636. Debate-Withdrawal of statement ob Holden, Mr. J. B. (Moonee Ponds). jected to, 1227, 3059. Consumers Protection Bill, 1193. Default Summonses - Warning by Farm Produce Merchants and Commis Attorney-General, 1028. sion Agents Bill, 3847, 3881, 3884, 3885, Education-Government allocation, 580. 3886, 3889, 3891, 3892, 3894, 3895, 4567. Assistance at Commonwealth level, 581. Health (Household Insecticides) Bill, 4650. Report on tertiary education, 1166. Marketing of Primary Products. (Egg Education Department-Condition of Marketing) Bill, 4631, 4633, 4634. State school at Spensley-street, Clif Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of ton Hill, 266. Temporary teachers, Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 3078. 1074. Commonwealth grants for Parliamentary Refreshment Rooms science blocks, 1405, 1765. Portable Accounts, 4217. class-rooms, 1406. Cuisenaire system Pesticides Bill, 1625. of teaching, 4410. Qualified and un Points of Order-Scope of debate in Com qualified teachers, 4411. mittee of Supply, 546. Relevancy of Electoral Provinces and Districts Bill, adjournment motion, 829. Relevancy 4005. of remarks, 1203, 3889. Method of Estimates for Year 1964-65, 2444. dealing with amendments, 3883. Sale of Land Bill, 3827, 3832. Frankston High School-Alleged distribu Stamps (Motor Car) Bill, 1440. tion of political literature by students, Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill, 60. 1116, 1302. Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 1452. Fuel Oil-Competition with brown coal industry, 313. Tax on production, 313. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (75)

Holding, Mr. A. C.-continued. Holding, Mr. A. C.-continued. Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, Railway Department-Termination of em 2467. I>loyment of Mrs. Oldaker, 3362. Housing Commission-Acquisition of land Social WQlfare Branch-Committals to at Anglesea for provision of housing youth training centres, 365. Persons for employees of Alcoa, 4417. under jurisdiction of Youth Parole Inquiry Agents-Licences, 314, 2446. In Board, 365. Orders for transfers to surance investigators, 314, 2446. gaols, 365. Parole boards, 1301. Justices (Complaints and Summonses) Social Welfare (Cadetships) Bill, 2671. Bill, 798. State Electricity Commission-Suspen Justices (Registration) Bill, 3056. sion of boiler-house engineer, 1497. Kings Bridge-Cost of repairs, 972. Re Yallourn staff mess, 1497. opening, 972. Load limits, 972. Taxation-State income tax, 575, 577, Labour and Industry (I..long Service 579. Leave) Bill, 1795. Teachers Tribunal-Report of chairman Lake Tyers Aboriginal Station-Popula on overseas trip, 182. tion, 243. Housing, 243. Return of Transfer of Land (Removal of Caveats) former residents, 1301. Future, 2467, Bill, 2805. 2678. Trustee Companies (Affidavits) Bill, 1681. Land (Special Grant) Bill, 205. Uniform Taxation-Exemptions for gifts La Trobe Library-Air conditioning, 2637. to technical colleges and students' fees, La Trobe University Bill, 991, 1086. 4408. Law Department-Activities of private in- Universities-Financial allocation, 580. vestigators, 2444. Staff salary increases, 2626. Legal Profession Practice (Amendment) University of Melbourne - Financial Bill, 2330, 2336, 2338. situation, 579. Meat Industry-Inspection of meat, 1310. Vagrancy Bill, 35912. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4436. Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 3058, Victorian Wage Earners-Salaries under 3085. £2,000, 3283. Mount Buffalo-Development of tourist Wills (Minors') Bill, 2690. facilities, 4093. Workers Compensation (Amendment) Municipalities - Industrial agreements, Bill, 3507, 3526, 4587, 4753. 2300. Workers Compensation Board-Report on Obscene Publications-Sale and prosecu operations, 181. tions, 4411, 4763. Parole Boards-Cases handled, 1301. Number, duties, and qualifications of Holland, Mr. K. M. S. (Flemington). parole officers, 1301. Acquisition of Materials Bill, 1537. Personal Explanation-Statement in de Budget for Year 1964-65, 530. bate, 2605. Country Roads (Amendment) Bill, 690. Points of Order-Statements in debate, Debate--Withdrawal of statement ob- 578, 749, 4010. Relevancy of remarks, jected to, 3383. 1691, 1991. Reference to newspaper Education Department-Construction of, reports of debates, 1692. Tabling of and temporary accommodation for, document quoted from, 4574, 4575. students at Flemington High School, 4576. 1118. Police Department-Proceedings re pub- Electoral Provinces and Districts Bill, 3993. lication of The Trial of Lady Chatterley, 3711, 4763. Farm Produce Merchants and Commis sion Agents Bill, 3838, 3881, 3882, 3884, Public Service Board-Claims relating to 3885, 3886, 3891, 3892, 3893, 3894, 4566. salaries and conditions, 2627, 2734. Gas and Fuel Corporation-Increased Public Works Department-Construction charges, 538. of portable class-rooms, 1406. Glenroy to Tullamarine Railway Con Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1225, struction Bill, 3900. 1334. Health (Offensive Trades) Bill, 2484. (76), INDEX.

Holland, Mr. K. M. S.-continued. Hospitals and Charities Commission-con- Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, tinued. 3258. 460, 530, 589, 596. Increases in beds, Labour and Industry (Long Service 389. Cost of beds in various States, Leave) Bill, 1798. 440. Need for new hospital at Orbost, Local Government (Amendment) Bill, 461, 4494. Commonwealth grants for 2692, 4548, 4550, 4551, 4552, 4553, 4569. pensioners, ( qn.) 517. Hospital Staff-Increases, 389. Nurses: Marine Stores and Old Metals (Welfare Shortage, 1819, 1820, 2460; training and Community Organizations) Bill, and graduation, ( qn.) 2977; number 1669, 2226, 2228. required, (qn.) 2977; rates of pay, Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of (qn.) 2977; wastage, (qn.) 2977. Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 2831. Percentage living out and married, Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways (qn.) 3028. Hospital Nurses Wages Board-Increased fares, 535. Board: Living-out payments, (qn.) Pesticides Bill, 1620, 1630. 3028. (See also " Bush Nursing Hos Public Works I.ban Application Bill, 1250, pitals," "Cancer Institute Board" and 1328. " Dental Hospital.") Railway Department-Increased fares and House Committee - Assembly members freights, 534. Interest and sinking fund appointed, 57. payments, 534. Housing- Railway Loan Application Bill, 1156. Co-operative Housing Societies-1964-65 Budget statement, 97. Advantages, 819. Roads (Special Projects) Bill, 4136. Advances under Commonwealth-State Sale of Land Bill, 3829. Housing Agreement, (qn.) 892, 1660. Shell Pipelines Bill, 2319. Advances, (qn.) 1961. Slum reclama Stamp Duties-Increases, 534. tion project in Fitzroy, 2454. Avail State Electricity Commission-Increased ability of_ funds, 4217, 4218, 4504. (See charges, 535. Traffic accident at Ascot also " Co-operative Housing Societies Vale, 537. Uniform tariffs, 538. (Amendment) Bill.") Finance--Interest rates, 29. Home Finance Taxation-State income tax, 538, 540. Fund No. 2: Receipts and second Uniform Taxation-Reimbursements to mortgage loans, 1296, 1456. Victoria, 539. Home Finance Trust-1964-65 Budget Water Authorities Accident Insurance statement, 98. Loans, (qn.) 3964. Bill, 2806. Allocation of funds to country areas, 4510. Homes-Needs of elderly people, 30. Home Finance (Amendment) Bill-Received Provision for teachers and Government from Council and first reading, 3710; employees in country, 328. Isabella second reading, 3790, 4600; remaining Wharton Trust: Design and construc stages, 4603. tion of single-unit flats, 574. Shortage, Hospitals and Charities Commission 816, 819. Housing of Aborigines, ( qn.) Administration-Provision of ambulance 4409. stations at Mount Buller and Falls Housing (Amendment) Bill - Introduction Creek, ( qn.) 2977. and first reading, 1410; second read Finance---1964-65 Budget statement, 92. ing, 1888, 2077; appropriation resolu Subsidies for medical practitioners, tion, 2086; Committee, 2086; remain (qn.) 3366. ing stages, 2088. Council amendment Hospitals and Homes-Availability of dealt with, 2484. beds, (qns.) 187, 2977. Charges, (qn.) Housing Commission- 187. Out-patients, (qn.) 187. Income Administration-Suggested advertising of from fees in public wards, (qn.) 316; services, 30. Contracts for main amount written off for pensioners tenance plumbing, (qn.) 2791. Co and indigent persons, (qn.) 316. In operation with Railway Department creased charges, 317, 427, 429, 451, 454, and Transport Regulation Board, 4506. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (77)

Housing Commission-continued. Housing Commission-continued. Finance-1964-65 Budget statement, 97. churches and church schools, ( qn.) Homes-Provision in country, 328, (qn.) 1964. Acquisition at Anglesea, (qn.) 2896; at Geelong, (qns.) 1168, 1588; 4417. at Seymour, (qn.) 2646; for rental, Rents-Range, (qn.) 974. 815, 974, (qn.) 2896, 4511; Slum Reclamation-Programme, 29, 49, handled by agents, (qn.) 2896; main 97. Carlton and Fitzroy projects, (qn.) tenance contractors, (qn.) 2896. 186. Cost, (qn.) 3287. " Darby and Joan " flats and single Staff-Employment of artisans, (qn.) person units, ( qn.) 369, 468, ( qn.) 703. Dismissal of painters, (qns.) 703, 1167. High-rise flats: Provision of lifts 786, 1588. and appointment of welfare officers, 1357. Tenancy applications, 468, 566, Hudson, Mr. P. M. (Toorak). ( qns.) 1120, 2979; in Geelong area, ( qns.) 1767, 2899. Homes for elderly Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill, single men, 468. For persons in neces 2006. sitous circumstances, 468. Emerald Commonwealth-State Financial Relation- Court flats, 468. Provision of land by ships, 755. municipalities for elderly citizens, 567. Companies Act-Factors Limited, 1543. Delays in maintenance work, 568, 816. Consumers Protection Bill, 1414. Number built, 816, 819. Price reduc Decentralization Advisory Committee Bill, tion, 817. Sale on purchase-lease basis, The, 1701. 817. Number unfit for habitation, (qn.) Electorate of Toorak-Representation, 892; demolition and rehousing of 755. occupants, (qn.) 892. No-deposit pur Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, chase scheme: Wage eligibility, (qn.) 753. 973; details, (qn.) 1967. Priority for Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, deserted wives, 1115, 1117. Sales, (qn.) 3268. 1120; deposits and repayments, (qns.) Labour and Industry (Long Service 1120, 1967; in Oxley-court, Broad Leave) Bill, 1797. meadows, (qn.) 3029. Needs of western Marine Stores and Old Metals (Welfare suburbs of Melbourne, ( qn.) 1308. and Community Organizations) Bill, Number rented in Geelong area, (qn.) 1675. 1767. Number in Geelong area occupied Marketing of Primary Products (Egg by Government employees, (qn.) 1767. Marketing) Bill, 4629. Rehousing of residents of slum Parliamentary Government - Historical reclamation areas, 2675. Allocation of survey, 753. homes in Geelong area to employees Police Department-Street disturbance in of Alcoa of Australia Proprietary South Y arra, 4023. Limited, (qns.) 2687, 2899; at Angle Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1229. sea, (qn.) 4417. Applications to pur Railway Loan Application Bill, 1148. chase, ( qn.) 2979. Evictions and re Stamps Bill, 1876. housing, ( qn.) 2979. Workers Compensation (Amendment) Housing Settlements-Provision of recrea Bill, 3524. tion areas, 116. Walker-street, North cote, estate: Tenants, rentals and municipal rates, (qns.) 1309, 1409. At Hyland, Sir Herbert-Recognition of Parlia Fitzroy: Commencement, (qn.) 2646; mentary service, 1984. integration with zoning plan, (qn.) 2646. Canning-street, Carlton: Develop Hyland, Sir Herbert (Gippsland South). ment, child population and recreational Aborigines-Housing in Morwell, 4409. facilities, (qn.) 2646. Newcomb estate: Number and allocations of homes, Albert Park Reserve-Reconstruction of (qn.) 2899. roads, 367, 424. Land-Provision by municipalities for Barrel Clover-Origin and cultivation, elderly citizens, 567. Sale at 827. Suitability in Gippsland, 827. Broadmeadows, 746. Purchase by Budget for Year 1964-65, 544. (78) INDEX.

Hyland, Sir Herbert-continued. Hyland, Sir Herbert-continued. Churchill Township--Progress, 3029. Landlord and Tenant Act-Effect of High Erection of houses, 3029. Cost of Court decision on rent control, 2431, establishment, 3960. 2447. Commonwealth Aid Roads Agreement Latrobe Valley-New power house, 3027. Availabililty of funds to Country Roads Latrobe Valley Development Advisory Board, 108. Committee - Recommendations, 3787, Commonwealth States Grants (Water 3963. Resources) Act-Allocations to Vic Librarian, The-Death of Mr. F. J. Perry, toria, 2686. 2734. Constitution Act Amendment (Sub Liquor Inquiry--Cost, 104. Date of con ordinate Legislation Committee) Bill, clusion, 104. The, 3793. Local Government (Amendment) Bill, Country Roads Board--Grants to muni 4562. cipalities, 314, 424, 2298. Expenditure, Local Government (St. Kilda and Elwood 314. Reconstruction of roads in Albert Land Reclamation) Bill, 717. Park, 367, 424. Condition of Hume Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Highway, 548. Finance for metropoli Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 2808. tan works, 2639. Members-Salaries and allowances, 546. Dairying Industry-Reduced cream, 704. Parliamentary service, 1986. Death-Sir Albert Eli Lind, 24. Milk Industry-Price increase, 247, 315. Decentralized Industries - Discretionary Motor Vehicles-Safety belts, 2636. licences for hire and reward carriers, Point of Order-Relevancy of remarks, 701, 702. La Mode Industries Pro 3889. prietary Limited at Traralgon and Police Department-Vehicles fitted with Morwell: Retrenchment and re-employ safety belts, 2636. Adequacy of Force, ment of staff, 3028. 2994. Duties of police, 3479. Relief Deeds of Gift-Interest in gifted property, by civilians, 3479. 3480. Public Accounts-Deficits, 545. Education Department-Purchase of land Reduced Cream-Addition of thickening at Leongatha, 1496, 1658. Purchase of agent, 704. land for technical school at Traralgon, Roads-Appointment of Parliamentary 1497, 1658. Subsidies for mothers' committee of inquiry, 549. clubs, 2069. Subsidies for assembly Roads (Special Projects) Bill, 4141. halls, 2297. Provision of rooms in new Road Traffic-Fatalities, 784. Bookings schools, 2785. Primary schools at Sale for traffic offences, 1962. and Traralgon, 3027. High school at Scientology-Cost and findings of Board Sale, 3027. New high and technical of Inquiry, 104. schools, 4411. Shark Guns-Ban in Victoria, 2068. Electoral Provinces and Districts Bill, Stamps Bill, 1875, 1876. 4000. State Electricity Commission-Generating Estimates for Year 1964-65, 2447. costs, 2683. Cost of Hazelwood power Farm Produce and Commission Agents station, 3960. Bill, 4567. Subordinate Legislation Committee Fishing Industry-Mooring fees, 2432. Report presented: Cranes Regulations, Grievance Day, 1409. 1964, 2301. Government Employees-Salaries in ex Taxation-Reintroduction of State in• cess of £2,000, 181. come tax, 544. Theatres (Sunday Films) Bill, 2198. Grain Elevators Board-Accounts in Totalizator Agency Board-Distribution credit, 2686. of profits, 2629. Employment of inspec Hazelwood-Provision of housing, schools tors, 2629. and infant welfare centres, 2071. Traralgon Public Offices-Purchase of Justices (Registration) Bill, 3042. land, 4413. Priority of work, 4413. Kilmany Over-pass-Construction, 3786. Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, (No. 2), 4317. 4565. Water (Amendment) Bill, 3603. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (79)

Hyland, Sir Herbert-continued. Jenkins, Dr. H. A-continued. Wilson's Promontory-Provision of elec Gas and Fuel Corporation-Increased tricity, 3786. Erection of motel, 3786. charges, 455. Workers Compensation (Amendment) Governor's Speech-Address-in-Reply, Bill, 4754. 2460. Health (Household Insecticides) Bill, I. 4648. Immigration-Victorian intake, (qn.) 188, Health (Tuberculosis Arrangement) Bill, 543; percentage of Commonwealth in 3381. take, ( qn.) 188; proportions of British Hospitals-Income from fees for public and non-British migrants, (qn.) 188. ward beds, 316. Sum written off for Co-operation with Commonwealth, pensioners and indigent persons 4511. Assisted passage scheme~ 4512. occupying beds in public wards, 316. Commonwealth grants for pensioner India - Need for assistance, 2351. Con payments, 517. Increased charges, 454. tracts for powdered milk, 2355. Pro Shortage of nurses, 1819, 2460. posed gift of skim milk, 2355. Hospitals and Charities Commission Industrial Appeals Court-Responsibilities, Subsidies for medical practices, 3366. 903. Immunization-Infection of children at Industrial Awards, Commonwealth and Echuca, 315. Sterilization equipment State-Policing and reciprocal arrange and method, 315. ments, (qn.) 1405. Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, 3269. Industries-Overseas investments, 29, 393. Latrobe Valley (Amendment) Bill, 675. Inquiry Agents and Investigators-Licences Leukaemia-Deaths, 424. Causes, 424. and exemptions, (qn.) 314, 2446, (qn.) Notification, 424. 2631. Activities of, 2445, 2448. Equip Medical (Amendment) Bill, 2485. ment, (qn.) 2632. Services to Police Medical (Foreign Practitioners) Bill, 4596. Department, (qn.) 2632. Medical Practitioners - Registrations, Insecticides. (See " Health (Household 3366. Insecticides) Bill " and " Pesticides Mental Hygiene Branch-Wages anrl Bill.") working conditions of employees, 2071. Institutional Staff Superannuation Fund Monash University (Amendment) Bill, Interim Advisory Committee and pro 1976. posals, (qn.) 3484. Police Department-Police districts and personnel in charge, 2296. Employ Insurance Companies-Authorized insurers, ment of police surgeons, and examina (qn.) 314. tions undertaken, 3284. Isabella Wharton Trust-Design and con Prisons Division-Employment of psychia struction of single-unit flats, 574. trists, psychologists and social workers, 3283. J. Public Service Board-Application by Hospital Employees Federation, 2456. Jenkins, Dr. H. A. (Reservoir). Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1316. Ambulance Services-Training pro- Railway Department-Increased fares and gramme for officers, 2462. freights, 455. Budget for Year 1964-65, 453. Sirex Wasp-Expenditure on eradication Cancer (Amendment) Bill, 1972. campaign, 3367. Consumers Protection Bill, 1190. State Electricity Commission-Royalty on Education-Sex education, 2463. brown coal, 455. Increased charges, Education Department-Maintenance of 455. school buildings, 456. Commonwealth Taxation-Revenue from gambling, 456. secondary scholarships, 2440. Scope of Uniform Taxation, 453. subjects for matriculation students, University Education-Staff shortages, 2441. Use of school facilities for adult 456. education, 2442. Veterinacy Surgeons (Amendment) Bill, Estimates for Year 1964-65, 2440, 2456. 4592, 4596. (80) INDEX.

Jenkins, Dr. H. A.-continued. K. Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4419. Kindergartens. (See " Department of Workers Compensation (Amendment) Health-Creches, Infant Welfare Bill, 3533. Centres and Kindergartens.") X-ray Examinations-Compulsory chest Kings Bridge-Restoration, 41, (qn.) 700. examinations, 517. Cost of repairs, 324, ( qns.) 825, ~72. Ex gratia payments by contractors and indemnity, ( qn.) 825. Reopening, Jona, Mr. W. (Hawthorn). (qns.) 972, 2626. Load limit, (qns.) Consumers Protection Bill, 1181. 972, 2626. Education-Development of technical L. colleges to degree status, 720. Swin Labour and Industry Act-Prosecutions in burne Technical College, 720. Attend Brunswick and Coburg, (qn.) 1405. ances at State, private and independent Convictions, (qn.) 1587. schools, 3284. Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill Education Department-Need for new In troduction and first reading, 1768; high school in inner eastern suburbs, second reading, 2585, 3232; Committee, 721. Status of central schools, 722. 3272; remaining stages, 3280. Council Establishment of extension and diag amendments dealt with, 4564. nostic aids department in schools, 722. Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, Labour and Industry (Cost of Living) Bill 718. -Introduction and first reading, 112. Medicines-Registration and advertising Labour and Industry (Fees) Bill-Resolu of proprietary lines, 974. tion fixing fees, 1598; introduction and first reading, 1598; second reading, Metropolitan Road Planning-Canter- 1665, 1974; remaining stages, 1976. bury-road-Hoddle-street connexion, 1766. Labour and Industry (Long Service Leave) Police Department-Provision of motor Bill - Notice of motion for leave to vehicles, 723. bring in, 1311; introduction and first reading, 1409; second reading, 1500, Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1338. 1784; motion empowering Committee to Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 4617. consider amendment, 1797; Committee, Social Welfare Branch-Part-time courses 1798; remaining stages, 1801. for social workers, 722. Lakes Entrance-Registered fishing boats, Taxation-Proposed State income tax, (qn.) 245. Wrecks, (qn.) 245. Sand 720. bar problem, (qn.) 245, 461. Lake Tyers Aboriginal Station-Population, Juries (Women Jurors) Bill-Introduction (qn.) 243. Housing, (qn.) 243. Trans and first reading, 370; second reading, fers of families, ( qn.) 243, ( qn.) 2068, 1106, 1520; Committee, 1526; remaining 2468; departmental reports, ( qn.) 2068, stages, 1528. 2468. Return of former residents, (qn.) 1301. Future, 2467. Inspection, (qn.) Justices (Complaints and Summonses) Bill 2890. -Received from Council and first read ing, 650; second reading, 669, 794; La Mode Industries Pty. Ltd. (See " De Committee, 799; remaining stages, 802. centralization.") Justices (Indictable Offences) Bill-Intro Lancefield-Grass fire, 3227, 3228. duction and first reading, 27; second Land-System of valuing, 45; appeals, (qn.) reading, 68. Order of the Day for re 4418. sumption of debate read and dis Landlord and Tenant Act - Fixation of charged, 2585. rents, 596. New South Wales decision Justices (Registration) Bill - Introduction on rent control, (qn.) 2431, 2447, 2448. and first reading, 2747; second reading, Lands Department-Revision of charges, 2819, 3038; Committee, 3049; remaining 86, 317, 323. Delays in investigations stages, 3058. by district surveyors, ( qn.) 4092. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (81)

Land Settlement - Heytesbury area, 431. Legal Profession Practice (Amendment) Policy of Country Party re soldier Bill-Introduction and first reading, settlement, 431. Conditions, 566. 1768; second reading, 1992, 2330; Com Position in East Gippsland, 804. Use mittee, 2335; remaining stages, 2338. of Commonwealth Development Bank, Legislative Assembly-Ways and Means 2479. procedure, 2480. Land (Special Grant) Bill-Introduction and Legislative Council-Functioning, 899. first reading, 62; declared a private Bill, 64; motion that Bill be dealt with as a Leukaemia. (See "Department of Health public Bill agreed to, 65; second read -Leukaemia.") ing, 65, 205; remaining stages, 206. Liberal and Country Party-Use of word Land Tax (Rates and Exemptions) Bill "Country " in title, 806, 819. Introduction and first reading, 1311; Librarian-Death of Mr. F. J. Perry, 2732. second reading, 1312, 1504; resolution fixing rates, 1512; appropriation resolu Libraries-Report of Board of Inquiry into tion, 1513; Committee and remaining Libracy Services in Victoria, 60, ( qn.) stages, 1514. (See also "Taxation 1583, 2438. (See also "Free Library Land Tax.") Service Board " and " La Trobe Library.") La Trobe Library-Provision for air-con ditioning, ( qn.) 2637. Staff shortage, Library Committee - Assembly members 4499. appointed, 57. La Trobe University - Proposed interim Licensing (Dining Permits) Bill-Introduc council, ( qn.) 699. Opening and staff, tion and first reading, 2072; second (qn.) 699. reading, 2113, 2210; Committee and re maining stages, 2211. La Trobe University Bill-Introduction and first reading, 370; second reading, 518, Life-saving Clubs-1964-65 Budget state 926, 982; appropriation resolution, 1021; ment, 92. Committee, 1021, 1075; remaining Limbless Persons - Assistance: Case at stages, 1103. Council amendments Tottenham, 2347. dealt with, 2103. Lind, The Late Hon. Sir Albert Eli-Resolu Latrobe Valley Advisory Committee tion placing on record sorrow at death, Amounts and conditions of grants and and appreciation of services, 21. subsidies, (qns.) 2300, 2432, 3963. Adjournment of House as mark of Recommendations, (qns.) 3787, 3963. respect, 27. Latrobe Valley (Amendment) Bill-Intro Liquor Inquiry-Cost, (qn.) 104. Date of duction and first reading, 189; second conclusion, (qn.) 104. Presentation of reading, 268, 675; remaining stages, 676. report, 2677, 3368. Press statement, Law Department- (qn.) 3026. Administration - Default summonses, Loan Funds - Interest and sinking fund 1028, 1029. Court orders re custody of payments, 80. 1964-65 Budget state children, (qn.) 1302. ment, 99. Loan funds available and Courts-Cases awaiting trial, (qns.) debt charges between 1959-60 and 1964- 364, 2972. Proposed improvements at 65, ( qn.) 101. Oakleigh, ( qn.) 1117. Construction at Local Authorities Superannuation (Amend Dromana, ( qn.) 3026. ment) Bill-Received from Council Justices of the Peace-Listing, 404. and first reading, 356; second reading, (See also "General Sessions (Pensions 650, 713; remaining stages, 714. of Chairmen) Bill.") Local Government (Amendment) Bill-Re Legal Aid (Costs) Bill - Received from ceived from Council and first reading, Council and first reading, 3414; second 2010; second reading, 2104, 2692; Com reading, 3416, 3801; Committee, 3802; mittee, 2702, 4547, 4569; remaining remaining stages, 3803. stages, 4571. (82) INDEX.

Local Government (Councillors' Declara Lovegrove, Mr. Denis-continued. tions) Bill-Received from Council 2443. Renovations to Gold-street, and first reading, 356; second reading, Clifton Hill, State School, 4091. 356; third reading, 357. Clerical error Electoral - Number of electors in elec corrected, 445. toral districts and provinces, 2630. Local Government Department - Budget Estimates for Year 1964-65, 2443, 2454. statement, 444. Forests Commission - Expenditure on Local Government (St. Kilda and Elwood roads, 183, 188. Land Reclamation) Bill - Introduction Gas and Fuel Corporation - Assets, 101, and first reading, 62; declared a private 2619. Investments, 101, 2619. Income, Bill, 63; motion that Bill be dealt with 101, 2619. Profits, 101, 2619. Charges, as a public Bill agreed to, 63; second 101, 2619. reading, 63, 714; remaining stages, 718. Geelong Harbor Trust - Surpluses, 2619. Long Service Leave. (See "Labour and Assets, 2619. Income, 2619. Government Departments and Instrumen Industry (Long Service Leave) Bill.") talities - Real estate and buildings owned, 101. Income from rents and Lovegrove, Mr. Denis (Fitzroy). investments, 101. Increased charges, Budget for Year 1964-65, 336. 101. Assets, 180, 2619. Investments, Building Operations - Scaffolding inspec- 180, 2619. Charges, 180, 2619. Finance, tors, 2638, 2684. Safety measures, 180, 2619. 2638, 2684. Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, Bush Fires - Ministerial statement, 3225. 122. Business of the House - Order of Grain Elevators Board - Surpluses, business, 2836, 3967, 3973, 3974, 4022, 2619. Assets, 2619. Income, 2619. 4419. Hospitals - Beds, charges, and patients, Companies Act - Investigation of com 187. panies, 105. Reid-Murray group, 105, Housing - Commonwealth loan moneys, 2637. 101. Companies (Amendment) Bill, 4639. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 3), 982. Housing (Amendment) Bill, 1893, 2077, Consumers Protection Bill, 1418. 2081, 2086, 2087. Co-operative Housing Societies - Mem- Housing Commission - Slum reclama bership, 1961. Advances, 1961. Fitzroy tion, 49. Expenditure on roads, 183, slum clearance project, 2454. 188. Carlton and Fitzroy reclamation Co-operative Housing Societies (Indemni projects, 186, 2646. Need for lifts in ties) Bill, 1979, 2072. tall flats, 1357. Appointment of wel Country Roads Board - Receipts and fare officers to assist elderly tenants, expenditure, 183, 188. Road construc 1357. Purchase of land by churches tion, 183, 188. or church schools, 1964. Amount out Crimes (Illegal Use of Motor Cars) Bill, standing on purchase of homes, 1967. 3834. No-deposit purchase scheme, 1967. In Debate - Withdrawal of statements tegration of Fitzroy housing project objected to, 344, 1419, 4755. Extension with municipal zoning plan, 2646. of time for speech, 451. Inquiry Agents - Licences, 2631. Equip Disposal of Uncollected Goods (Damaged ment used, 2631. Services to Police Motor Cars) Bill, 679, 1636. Department, 2631. Education - Martin report on tertiary Justices (Registration) Bill, 3053. education, 2908. Kings Bridge - Restoration, 700. Com Education Department - Condition of pletion date and load limits, 2626. State school at Spensley-street, Clifton Hill, 248. Outbreak of hepatitis at Labour and Industry Act - Convictions, Spensley-street State School, 1215. 1587. Student population and school building Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, projects in Carlton, Collingwood and 3232, 3272, 3273, 3274, 4565. Fitzroy areas, 2637. Caretaker's resi Labour and Industry (Cost of Living) Bill, dence at Melbourne Boys' High School, 112. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (83)

Lovegrove, Mr. Denis-continued. Lovegrove, Mr. Denis-continued. Labour and Industry, Department of - Motor Vehicles - Drivers' licences: Trading inspectors, 1587. Illegal week Number, fees, and revenue, 1299. end baking and bread deliveries, 1658, Revenue from registration fees and 1963, 2973. Rates of pay for em surcharge, 1299. Number stolen and ployees, and inspection of books, of recovered, 2629; prosecutions and con " Sunday " bakeries, 1658. Overtime, victions, 2629; compensation to owners, long service leave and annual leave of 2629. inspection staff, 1963. Factories and Municipalities - Commonwealth loan shops inspectors, 2973. moneys, 101. Labour and Industry (Fees) Bill, 1974. Labour and Industry (Long Service Personal Explanation - Press report of speech, 3025. Leave) Bill, 1503, 1784, 1797, 1798, 1801. Petrol Tax - Collection and distribution, La Trobe University - Proposed interim 1404. council, 699. Admission of students, Points of Order - Relevancy of remarks, 699. Academic staff, 699. 391, 919. Suspension of sitting for La Trobe University Bill, 926, 1027, 1075, supper, 572. Statement in debate, 573, 1081, 1089, 1092, 1103. 838, 1991. Relevancy of adjournment Maintenance (Reciprocating State) Bill, motion, 829. Debate on motion that 1682. progress be reported, 1028. Order of Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of speakers, 1202. Member's right to refer Works - Expenditure on roads, 183, to actions of Legislative Council, 2572. 188. Assets, 2619, 2684, Investments, Provision of copies of report when 2619, 2684. Income, 2619, 2684. Profits, making Ministerial statement, 2909. 2619, 2684. Charges, 2619, 2684. Loan Order of business, 3965, 3967. moneys, 2619, 2684. Melbourne Metro Police Department - Mobile Traffic politan Planning Scheme, 2741, 3640. Police, 1300. Strength of Force, 1301. Findings of Metropolitan Transport and Adequacy of Force, 2979. Traffic Inquiry, 2741. Expansion of Portland Harbor Trust - Surpluses, metropolitan area, 2741. Capital ex deficits, and income, 2619. penditure on essential services, 2741. Ring road, 3640. Voting of Board Public Accounts - Comparison of Com membE:rs, 3640. monwealth tax reimbursements and Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of State debt charges, 344. Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 2759, Public Officers - Loans for purchase of 2775, 3083. motor vehicles, 700. Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Public Trustee - Staff and administra Board - Assets, 101, 2619. Invest tion, 2431. ments, 101, 2619. Income 101, 2619. Public Works - Commonwealth loan Profits, 101, 2619. Charges, 101, 2619. moneys, 101. Collapse of concrete Melbourne Harbor Trust - Expenditure bays at Cultural Centre and Transport on roads, 183, 188. Surpluses, 2619. Regulation Board buildings, 343, 366, Deficits, 2619. Income, 2619. 422. Mineral Resources - Royalties, 2624. Public Works Department - Expenditure Development, 2624. on roads, 183, 188. Ministry - Appointment of Assistant Minister of Education, 122. Separation Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1111, of portfolios of Premier and Treasurer, 1349. 345. Railway Department-Increased charges, Motor Car (Amendment) Bill, 681. 101. Derailments, 845. Surpluses, Motor Car (Carriers' Identification Marks) 2619. Deficits, 2619. Assets, 2619. Bill, 1676. Income, 2619. Sunday passenger ser Motor Car (Fines and Drivers' Licence vices, 4283. Fees) Bill, 1426. Railway Loan Application Bill, 1143. Motor Car (Hours of Driving) Bill, 2211, Roads - Construction, 183, i88. Expen 2236, 2237, 2238. diture, 183, 188. (84) INDEX.

Lovegrove, Mr. Denis-continued. Lovegrove, Mr.· Denis-continued. Road Traffic - Fatalities and m1ur1es, 699, 1583. Academic staff, 699, 1583. 104, lll, 1297, 2627. Registrations and Proposed fourth university, 699. Avail drivers' licences, 104, 111, 1297, 2627. ability of Martin report, 2637. Tests for unroadworthy vehicles, 104, University of Melbourne - Co-operation 111, 1297, 2627. Hazard created by with Government, 49. Library require newsboys, 824. Accident preventive ments, 50. Need for finance, 55, 125. measures, 1297. Academic policy, 125. Staff, 125. Sewerage - Connexions, and unsewered premises, 2742. Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4475, Social Welfare (Cadetships) Bill, 2667, 4479, 4480, 4484, 4747. 2673. Workers Compensation Insurance Stamps (Motor Car) Bill, 1437. premiums, 3142, 3480. Cases heard State Accident Insurance Office by Board, 3142. Claims during 1961- Workers compensation cases, 3143. 64, 3143, 3480. Insurers and insurance State Electricity Commission - Assets, rates, 3143, 3144. Cases handled by 101, 338. Investments, 101, 338. Income, State Accident Insurance Office, 3143. 101, 338. Profits, 101, 338. Charges, Annual reports of Board, 3144. Ad 101, 338. Expenditure on roads, 183, ministration costs, 3144. 188. Workers Compensation (Amendment) State Finances - Commonwealth special Bill, 2927, 3301, 3504, 3533, 3538, 3544, and emergency grants, 101, 338. Com 3549, 3555, 3556, 3557, 3559, 3561, monwealth loan moneys, 101, 338. Vic 3562, 3563, 3564, 3834, 4579, 4590, torian debt charges, 101, 338. Budget 4748, 4757, 4762. deficits, 101, 338. Interest received Youth Welfare - Government grants to from 1959-60 to 1964-65, 101. youth clubs, 784. State Income Tax - Proposed reintroduc tion, 123. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis Loxton, Mr. S. J. E. (Prahran). sion - Assets, &c., 2619. Co-operative Housing Societies (Indemni- Statistics - Average wages, 2625. Popu ties) Bill, 1987. lation increase, 2625. Number of Sale of Land Bill, 3826. students, 2625. Tax reimbursements, 1874. 2625. Stamps Bill, Television Sets - Maintenance services, Supply, 48, 55. 4155. Taxation-Taxation per head of popula tion, 101. Sources of taxation and M. revenue received, 101. Special Com Macdonald, Mr. J. D. (Burwood). monwealth grants, 336. Reimbuse ments, 2625. Legal Profession Practice (Amendment) Theatres, Motion Picture - Ownership, Bill, 2337. 1962. Employment, 1962. Municipal Police Offences (Betting Information) control, 1962. Bill, 1680. Theatres (Sunday Films) Bill, 2196. Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 4622. Sale of Land Bill, 3820. Totalizator Agency Board - Agencies Rulings and Statements as Acting Chair in Fitzroy, and revenue, 2629. man- Transport Regulation Board - Inspection Debate-Relevancy of remarks, 981, 1799, and licensing for carriage of passengers 1801, 3280. of commercial goods vehicles, 1766. Uniform Taxation-Reimbursements, 101, 337, 340, 2625. System, 123. Macfarlan, The Late Hon. Ian-Tribute to, Universities - Financial assistance, 698. 724. Staff shortage, 698. Expansion, 698. Maintenance Bill-Received from Council Construction works, 698. Matricula and first reading, 2661; second reading, tion examinations, 699, 1583. Admis 2747, 4635; Committee, 4638; remaining sion of students, 699, 1583. Degrees, stages, 4639. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (85)

Maintenance (Reciprocating State) Bill McDonald, Mr. R. S. L.-continued. Received from Council and first read Budget for Year 1964-65, 327. ing, 1542; second reading, 1617, 1682; Cadet Surveyors Bill, 2303. remaining stages, 1683. Cancer Institute Board-Mobile clinics, Marine (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and 1167. first reading, 1589; second reading, Decentralization-Need for balanced de 1612, 1801; resolution fixing fees, 1806; velopment, 329, 2479. Committee, 1806; remaining stages, Dental Health-Shortage of dentists in 1809. country areas, 329. Marine Stores and Old Metals (Boy Scouts Education-Technical college facilities in and Girl Guides) Bill. (See "Marine country areas, 327. Raising of regional Stores and Old Metals (Welfare and technical colleges to university stan Community Organizations) Bill.") dard, 2478. Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, Marine Stores and Old Metals (Welfare 2478. and Community Organizations) Bill Housing-Accommodation for teachers, Introduction and first reading, 1590; 328. second reading, 1615, 1663, 1669; Com Housing Commission-Homes in country mittee, 1675, 2226; remaining stages, areas, 328. Construction of housing 2229. units, 2896. Applications for, and Marketing of Primary Products (Egg allocations of, rental units, 2896. Main Marketing) Bill-Received from Council tenance contractors, 2896. and first reading, 3225; second reading, Land Settlement-Use of Commonwealth 3642, 4627; Committee and remaining Development Bank, 2479. stages, 4635. Marine Stores and Old Metals (Welfare Maryborough-Subsidy for cultural centre, and Community Organizations) Bill, 571. 1673. Medical (Foreign Practitioners) Bill, 4598. McCabe, Mr. J. E. (Lowan). Melbourne Harbor Trust-Overseas Aborigines (Amendment) Bill, 3701. passenger terminal, 329. Aborigines Welfare Board-Housing for Municipal Association (Accident Insur Aborigines, 32. Reorganization of ance) Bill, 1110. Board's activities, 33. Agriculture, Department of-Expansion of Peter MacCallum Clinic-Country activi agricultural economics branch, 32. In ties, 329. creased grants for agricultural Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1353. societies, 32. Railway Department-Increased charges, Death-The Hon. W. J. Mibus, 32. 329. Concessions for goods traffic to Governor's Speech-Address-in-Reply, 32. border towns, 330. Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill, Railway Loan Application Bill, 1146. 3873. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis Mines Department-Old mine shafts at sion-Gannawarra-Picanniny drainage Stawell, 3147. scheme, 3365. Acquisition of proper Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1344. ties and compensation for water con Superphosphate-Deliveries to farmers, servation schemes, 3365. 2603. Swine Compensation Bill, 1634. Tomato Processing Industry (Uniform Water Resources-Underground water Agreement) Bill, 2329. supplies, 33. Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4461. Water Authorities Accident Insurance McDonald, Mr. R. S. L. (Rodney). Bill, 2807. Aborigines (Amendment) Bill, 3699. Water Bill, 1608. Agricul,tural Education (Continuation) Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 1443. Bill, 3589. Werribee Waterworks District (Abolition) Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill, Bill, 3379. 2006. (86) INDEX.

McDonald, Sir William (Dundas). Meagher, Mr. E. R.-continued. Nomination and Election as Speaker, 18. Mornington Peninsula-Public transport (See also "Speaker, The (Sir William services, 975. McDonald).") Motor Boats-Registration, 702. Motor Car (Hours of Driving) Bill, 1768, 1777, 2224, 2236, 2237, 2238, 2239. Meagher, Mr. E. R. (Mentone). Municipal Association (Accident Insur Aborigines (Amendment) Bill, 3683. ance) Bill, 1110, 1111. Altona Railway Extension Bill, 2647, Pensioners-Train and tram fares, 1407. 2911, 2912. Anzac Day-Concessional rail fares for Points of Order-Statement in debate, ex-servicemen attending reunion func 545, 3177. Relevancy of adjourn tions, 2837. ment motion, 828. Report of Railways Budget for Year 1964-65, 471. Commissioners, 829, 834. Relevancy of Business of the House-Days of sitting, remarks, 3177, 3507. 1165. Order of business, 2836, 3911. Public Transport-Concessional fares for Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 4), 4513. students, 4280. Debate-Withdrawal of statement objec Railway Department-Derailments, 108, ted to, 838. 476, 837, 840, 2458. Construction and Decen traiized Industries-Discretionary cost of Gowrie station, 185, 3962. Mil licences for hire and reward carriers, dura-Melbourne goods traffic, 185, 246. 701, 702. Fruit Flyer service, 185. Appointment Estimates for Year 1964-65, 2458. of primary producer as Commissioner, Glenroy to Tullamarine Railway Con 246. Wodonga-Cudgewa line, 512, struction Bill, 3368, 3372, 3374, 3906, 1497. Refuelling bays, and smoke dis 3908. charge at Geelong locomotive depot, Grievance Day-Suspension of Standing 513. Increased freights and fares, 471, Order, 4418. 474. Railways Renewals and Replace Hospitals-Shortage of nurses, 1820. ment Fund, 476. Passenger time-tables Juries (Women Jurors) Bill, 1106. on Melbourne-Geelong service, 1307, Kilmany Over-pass-Files re construction, 1659. Additions to Spencer-street sta 3786. tion, 1308, 2458. Charter rates for Kirrak Coal Mine-Mishap, 697, 703. train hire, 1498. Fire damage at, and Level Crossing Accidents-Legal action rebuilding of, Merri station, 1588, against Victorian Railways Commis 4414. Lilydale-Warburton service, sioners, 1167. 1717, 2136, 2459. Supernumerary and Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways permanent staffs, 1763, 4414. Operat Board-Financial result of tram and bus ting results of passenger, goods and operations, 109. Implementation of livestock traffic, 1763. Lease of land regulation relating to one-man bus for industrial purposes, 2070. Time operations, 246. Single track section tables on Dandenong and Gippsland of Nicholson-street, Coburg, line, 367. lines, 2240. Newport-Altona line, 2685. Increased fares, 473. Use of motor Healesville service, 2459, 3482. Sunday vehicles by inspectors, 649. Track rail motor services in Gippsland, 2743. mileage, 892. Cost of maintenance of Fatalities and injuries in level crossing tracks, 892. Staff, 892, 2789, 4414. accidents, 2893. Traralgon-Sale ser Overtime payments, 892. Seating tax, vice, 2893. Kilmany over-pass, 2893. 1407. Import and manufacture of Dismantling of Kooloonong-West trams, 2790. Brunswick depot staff, Narrung line, 3028. Use of double 2976. Recruitment of staff in Great decker carriages, 3362. Termination of Britain, 2976. Curtailment of services, employment of Mrs. J. Oldaker, 3362. 4414. Track-laying programme, 4414. Train time indicators at Flinders-street Metropolitan Transportation Committee and Spencer-street stations, 3363. Expenditure, 1075. Surveys, 1075. Per Carriage of grass hay to New South sons employed, 1075. Wales, 3418. Cleanliness of carriages, Mordialloc Public Hall and Court House 3712. . Cost of Glenroy-Tullamarine Bill, 3642, 3652 .. line, 3786. Level crossings in East LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (87)

Meagher, Mr. E. R.-continued. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Brunswick, 4023. Warrigal-road, Oak Works-continued. leigh, level crossing, 4024. Duplication Rates-Reduction, (qns.) 1587, 2685. of Geelong-Melbourne line, 4283. Sun Metropolitan improvement rate, ( qn.) day passenger services, 4283. Un 2787. Excess water charges, (qn.) manned stations, 4414. 2975. Railway Loan Application Bill, 477, 694, Roads-Metropolitan road construction in 1163. years 1963-64 and 1964-65, (qn.) 184, Railways (Funds.) Bill, 1589, 1615, 1816. 188. Development of Moonee Ponds Railways (Long Service Leave) Bill, 854. creek road, (qn.) 512; effect on proper Superphosphate-Deliveries to farmers, ties, (qn.) 512. Extension of Canter 2604. bury-road to Hoddle-street, ( qn.) 1766. Suspension of Member, 3216. Acquisition of properties in Brunswick Taxation-Reintroduction of State income and Coburg, (qn.) 2974; for ring road, tax, 472. (qn.) 2974. Transport Regulation Board-Taxis and Sanitation Services-South-eastern inter hire cars.: Zones, fares and licences in ceptor sewer, 58. Number of un metropolitan area, 367. Inspection and sewered premises, septic tanks and pan licensing of commercial goods vehicles services, (qn.) 2742. Work on Merri for carriage of passengers, 1766. In creek, ( qn.) 3285. spection staff and check points, 4415. Water Supply--Cost of water, 119. Policy re new connexions, 216. Addi· tion of chlorine, (qn.) 701. Annual Meat for Export-Inspection, 391. File re cost of fluoridation, (qn.) 1406. Mel agreement with Commonwealth on in bourne's future water supply: Recom spection, (qn.) 1310. (See also "Vic mendations of Public Works Com torian Inland Meat Authority " and mittee, ( qn.) 2735. Drainage from "Victorian Inland Meat Authority Essendon reservoir, 2783, 2784. Area (Amendment) Bill.") of catchments, (qn.) 2892; staff, (qn.) Medical (Amendment) Bill-Received from 2892; visitors to chalets, (qn.) 2892; Council and first reading, 1901; second medical checks for staff and visitors, reading, 1967, 2485; remaining stages, ( qn.) 2892. Open channels: Testing of 2486. water and purification, (qn.) 3146. Medical (Foreign Practitioners) Bill - Re Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of ceived from Council and first reading, Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill - 3414; second reading, 3586, 4596; re Appropriation resolution, 2647; intro maining stages, 4599. duction and first reading, 2647; second Medical Graduates - Service as resident reading, 2650, 2759, 2775, 2808, 2824, medical officers in public hospitals, 2927, 3019, 3058; Committee, 3083; re (qn.) 316. maining stages, 3087. Medical Practitioners-Registrations, ( qn.) Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways 3366. Subsidies, (qn.) 3366. Board- Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Depots and Workshops-Preston work Works- shops: Import and manufacture of Finance-Income from investments and trams and costs, (qn.) 2790. rents, (qns.) 2620, 2684. Assets, (qn.) Fares-Increases, (qn.) 102, 379, 441, 442, 2620. Loan authorizations and debt 473, 535, 589, 596, 599, (qn.) 2620. charges, ( qn ..) 2684. Investments, Concessions to pensioners, ( qn.) 1407. ( qn.) 2684. Capital requirements, Finance-Assets, investments and profits, (qn.) 2741. Revenue, (qn.) 2787. ( qns.) 102, 2620. Result of operations Planning Scheme - Rezoning, (qn.) in year 1963-64, (qn.) 109. Value of 2741; submission to Housing Commis properties owned by Board, 442. Pay sion and Town and Country Planning ment of seating tax, (qn.) 1407. Board, (qn.) 2741. Route o.f ring road Services-One-man bus operations: Im· through East Melbourne, (qn.) 3640. plementation of regulation, (qn.) 246. Current scheme, (qn.) 3640. Need for increase, 467. (88) INDEX.

Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Mental Health-continued. Board-continued. Park psychiatric hospital, 2465. Institu Staff-Incremental payments, 451. In tional accommodation for mentally re spectors, ( qn.) 649; use of motor tarded children, ( qn.) 3964. Suggested vehicles, ( qn.) 649. Loss, ( qn.) 2789. release on trial of inmate from Mont Trainees, (qn.) 2789. Applicants for Park, 4508. employment, (qn.) 2789. Physical Metropolitan Fire Brigades Board - Fire standards, (qn.) 2789. Employed at hazard with liquid fuel in homes, 555. Brunswick depot, ( qn.) 2976. Recruit Financial contributions, (qn.) 2975. ment from Great Britain, ( qn.) 2976. Painting of fire hydrants, (qn.) 2975. Number, (qn.) 4414. Turnover, (qn.) 4414; effect on services, (qn.) 4414; Metropolitan Fire Brigades (Long Service effect on laying tracks in concrete, Leave) Bill - Introduction and first (qn.) 4414. reading, 62; second reading, 115, 278; remaining stages, 279. Tram Routes-Nicholson-street, East Coburg, single-track section: Fatal Metropolitan Transportation Committee accidents, (qn.) 367; duplication, (qn.) Survey, 444, (qn.) 1074. Expenditure, 367. Track mileage and maintenance, (qn.) 1074. (qn.) 891. Mibus, The late Hon. Wilfred John - Melbourne Cricket Ground-Camping of Tribute to, 32, 724. young people outside, 403. Mildura Irrigation and Water Trusts Melbourne Harbor Trust-Overseas passen (Amendment) Bill - Introduction and ger terminal, 329, 820. Payment to first reading, 2802; second reading, Consolidated Revenue: Suggested re 2899, 3156; Committee, 3158; remaining lief, 821. Suggested imposition of out stages, 3159. ward wharfage charges, 821. Nelson Mildura (Rating on Unimproved Values) Pier, Williamstown: Ban by Waterside Bill - Introduction and first reading, Workers' Federation, (qn.) 1307; im 112; declared a private Bill, 112; motion provement of facilities, (qn.) 1307. In that Bill be dealt with as a public Bill come from investments and rents, (qn.) agreed to, 112; second reading, 112, 279; 2620. Assets, (qn.) 2620. Sale of remaining stages, 282. winch, ( qn.) 4092. Milk Board-Price increases, (qns.) 247, 315. Melbourne Home and Hospital for the Aged, Length and cost of milk price inquiry, 2465. ( qn.) 368, 390; provision of report, Melbourne Sailors' Home Bill-Introduc (qn.) 1964. Statement by chairman, tion and first reading, 2072; declared a 390. private Bill, 2110; motion to treat as Mines Department - Reclamation pro public Bill agreed to, 2110; second gramme of mining sites in Bendigo, reading, 2110, 2229; Committee and 400. Mineral royalties, (qn.) 2624. remaining stages, 2231. Mineral development, (qn.) 2624. Melbourne University. (See "University Tragedy at Maryborough: Safety of Melbourne.") measures, 2782, 2784, 2836. Safety measures at Stawell, (qn.) 3147. Members-Swearing in of members after Mines (Exploration Licences) Bill-Intro periodical elections, 17. Leave of duction and first reading, 1589; second absence: For Mr. Speaker, 77, 3087, reading, 1899, 2118; resolution fixing 3608; for Mr. Fennessy, 370. Salaries fees, 2122; Committee, 2123, 2231; re and allowances: Suggested appointment maining stages, 2232. of committee of inquiry, 546. Number, Ministry, The-Changes in appointments, ( qn.) 2295. Illness of Mr. Taylor, 4178. 27. Appointment of Assistant Minister of Mental Health Authority-1964-65 Budget Education, 122, 223. Suggested separa statement, 93. Commonwealth grants tion of portfolios of Premier and for pensioners, (qn.) 517. Wages and Treasurer, 345. conditions of staff, (qn.) 2071. Royal LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (89)

Mitchell, Mr. T. W. (Benambra). Mitchell, Mr. T. W.-continued. Aborigines (Amendment) Bill, 3703. Rulings and Statements as Acting Alpine Areas - Administration, 3283. Chairman- Budget for Year 1964-65, 384. Debate - Relevancy of remarks, 594. Bush Fires - Location, 2679. Ministerial Interjections, 3688. statement, 3202. Cancer (Amendment) Bill, 1972. Country Fire Authority Bill, 3407. Monash University-Dismissal of cleaners, Country Fire Authority (Borrowing 78. Expansion, (qn.) 698. Construc Powers) Bill, 286. tion works, ( qn.) 698. Social studies Country Roads Board-Snow plough, 511. course, ( qn.) 2683. Education Department - Fire drill in Monash University (Amendment) Bill State schools, 3640. Introduction and first reading, 1768; Falls Creek - Expulsion of persons from second reading, 1772, 1976; appropria area, 366. Progress association, 511. tion resolution, 1978; remaining stages, Issue of franchises for operation of ski 1978. school, chair lift and ski tows, 826, Mordialloc Public Hall and Court House 1074. Ski-tow licences, 3226. Granting Bill - Appropriation resolution, 3642; of sites for ski tows, 3285. introduction and first reading, 3642; Forests (Amendment) Bill, 2200, 2208, second reading, 3652, 4179; remaining 2209. stages, 4182. Governor-General State luncheon, 2971. Hospitals and Charities Commission - Moss, Mr. G. C. (Murray Valley). Funds for first-aid huts at Mount Buller Acquisition of Materials Bill, 1535. and Falls Creek, 2977. Agriculture, Department of - Extension Juries (Women Jurors) Bill, 1521, 1527, services, 46. 1528. Budget for Year 1964-65, 425. Land Tax - Basis of valuations, 386. Chairman of Committees - Election of La Trobe University Bill, 997. Mr. Rafferty, 35. Liquor Industry - Press statement, 3026. Constitution Act Amendment (Respon Marine (Amendment) Bill, 1805, 1807, sible Ministers) Bill, The, 37. 1809. Consumers Protection Bill, 1175, 2235, Marine Stores and Old Metals (Welfare 2577. and Community Organizations) Bill, Crimes (Amendment) Bill, 789, 790. 1671, 2226, 2227. Deaths - Sir Albert Eli Lind, M.L.A., 23. National Parks (Amendment) Bill, 1539, The Hon. E. J. Hogan, 59. 1618, 1619. Decentralization Allocations from National Parks (Amendment) Bill Decentralization Fund, 432. (No. 2), 4189. Decentralization Advisory Committee Bill, Olympic Games - Government grants, The, 1694. 2677. Education Department - State school Police Department - Work in snowlands organizations: Establishment and con of Search and Rescue Squad, 387, 826. stitution, 106. Financial assistance, 106. Construction of Wodonga police State School Committees and Councils station, 1404. Association, 244. Establishment of Railway Department - Derailments, 47, buildings branch, 429. Payment of 386. Refreshment room service, 48. emergency teachers, 430. District in Wodonga-Cudgewa line, 512, 1497. spectors, 430. Provision of clerical State Electricity Commission - Expulsion assistance for head masters, 431. of persons from Falls Creek, 366. Holiday for school children, 3284. Progress association, at Falls Creek, Education (School Committees) Bill, 511. 2102. Supply, 47. Electoral - South-Eastern Province by Vagrancy Bill, 3599. election, 894. Water (Recreational Areas) Bill, 2000, Electoral Provinces and Districts Bill, 2002. 3983. (90) INDEX.

Moss, Mr. G. C.-continued. Moss, Mr. G. C.-continued. Estimates - Supplementary Estimates for State Rivers and Water Supply Commis 1963-64, 978, 981. sion-Need for flood mitigation work General Sessions (Pensions of Chairmen) at Goulburn-Murray junction, 432. Bill, 215. Stock Foods (Amendment) Bill, 2487. Government Departments - Need for re- Superannuation (Time for Election) Bill, organization, 431. 1971. Grain Elevators (Borrowing) Bill, 276. Supply, 44, 894. Hospitals - Increased charges, 427, 429. Tattersall Consultations (Jackpot Con Housing (Amendment) Bill, 2081. sultations) Bill, 1971. Justices (Complaints and Summonses) Taxation-Reintroduction of State Bill, 797. income tax, 425, 427. Land - System of valuing, 45. Theatres (Sunday Films) Bill, 2197. Land Settlement - Heytesbury area, 431. Trustee Companies (Affidavits) Bill, Country Party policy re soldier settle 1682. ment, 431. Uniform Taxation-Revision of formula, Land Tax - Concessions, 428. 978, 981. Land Tax (Rates and Exemptions) Bill, Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill 1508. (No. 2), 2661, 4293, 4313, 4315, 4318. La Trobe University Bill, 982. Valuation of Land (Valuations) Bill, Librarian, The-Death of Mr. F. J. Perry, 2435. 2732. Valuer-General's Branch-Cost, 2785. Members-Parliamentary service of Sir Victorian Inland Meat Authority Herbert Hyland, 1985. {Amendment) Bill, 2756. Mildura Irrigation and Water Trusts Water (Amendment) Bill, 3601. (Amendment) Bill, 3158 Water Bill, 1601, 1609, 1610, 1611. Mines (Exploration Licences) Bill, 2120, Wills (Minors') Bill, 2689. 2122, 2126, 2127. Workers Compensation (Amendment) Motor Cars (Hours of Driving) Bill, 2225, Bill, 3496, 3535, 3536. 2238. Parliamentary Salaries Pensions and Superannuation Bill, 2452. Motions for the Adjournment of the House Point of Order-Order of speakers, 843. to Enable Honorable Members to Dis Portland Harbor Trust (Borrowing cuss Public Questions - Education Powers) Bill, 678 Department: Spensley-street, Clifton Probate Duty-Revenue, 428 Hill, State School, 248; Railway Racing (Amendment) Bill, 2076. Department: Derailments, 828; ade Railway Department-Derailments, 44, quacy of the Police Force, 2979. 843. Interest and sinking fund Motor Boats-Registration and seaworthi charges, 428. Increased freight rates, ness tests, (qn.) 511; revenue, (qns.) 428, 895. Replacement of sleepers, 702, 4277, 4409. Payments from 978. Tourist Development Fund for Roads (Special Projects) Bill, 4109, 4326. facilities, ( qn.) 702. Boating facilities Road Traffic-Designations of statutory at Queenscliff and Swan Bay, 923. authorities controlling traffic, 2433. Subsidy for private motor boat clubs, Rodney, Shire of-Funds for drainage 923. Launching ramps, (qns.) 4277, works, 1166. 4409. Administration expenses, (qn.) Senate Vacancy-Joint sitting of both 4409. Houses, 2489, 2491. Motor Car Act-Proposal for fines to be Sessional Period, Close of-Christmas paid into Consolidated Revenue, 85. felicitations, 2581. Motor Car (Amendment) Bill-Introduction Soil Conservation Authority-File re and first reading, 189; second reading, "Mount Bolton ", Learmonth, 247. 193, 681; remaining stages, 682. Speaker-Election, 20. Motor Car (Amendment) Bill (No. 2)-Re Stamp Duties-Increases, 427. ceived from Council and first reading, Stamps Bill (No. 2), 4099. 3564. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (91)

Motor Car (Carriers' Identification Marks) Municipalities-continued. Bill - Introduction and first reading, Finance-Allocations by Country Roads 1590; second reading, 1635, 1676; Board, (qns.) 314, 424, 571, 1406. remaining stages, 1677. Funds needed for drainage problems, Motor Car (Fines and Drivers' Licence 923. Grants from Municipalities Fees) Bill-Resolution fixing fees, 868; Assistance Fund, ( qn.) 1305. Rating introduction and first reading, 869; of houses rented by teachers of regis second reading, 1168, 1426; appropria tered schools and metropolitan race tion resolution, 1437; Committee and courses, ( qn.) 3027. remaining stages, 1437. Home-help Services-Government grant, 389. Motor Car (Hours of Driving) Bill-Intro Melbourne City Council-Scaffolding duction and first reading, 1768; second inspectors, ( qns.) 2638, 2684. reading, 1777, 2211; Committee, 2223, Motor Car Parking-Number of traffic 2236; remaining stages, 2239. officers, (qn.) 2742. Parking infringe Motor Registration Branch - Defects in ments and revenue, (qn.) 2742. Park registration plates, ( qn.) 701. ing meters and revenue, ( qn.) 2742. Pedestrian Subways-Subsidies, (qn.) Motor Vehicles-Drivers' licence fees: Pro 700. posed increase, 85, 427, 534, 595. Shire of Diamond Valley-Establishment, Registrations and licences, (qns.) 105, 541. 111, 1299, 3481; revenue and ex Shire of Eltham-Grant for pre-school penditure, ( qn.) 1299. Authorized centre, 541. vehicle testers, (qn.) 105, 111, 1215. Shire of Rodney-Funds for drainage Third-party insurance: Percentage works, (qn.) 1166. underwritten by State Motor Car In Valuations-Net annual valuations, (qn.) surance Office and companies, ( qn.) 2787, (qn.) 3145. 314. Numbers stolen and recovered, (qn.) 2629. Prosecutions and con victions for stealing and illegaly using, Mutton, Mr. Charles (Coburg). (qn.) 2629. Compensation to owners, (qn.) 2629. Shoulder safety belts: Gas and Fuel Corporation-Rebates to Use by police, (qn.) 2636; Government pensioners, 3026. policy, (qn.) 2636. (See also "Crimes Hire-purchase Agreements-Value, 313. (Illegal Use of Motor Cars) Bill " and Housing Commission - Demolition of " Disposal of Uncollected Goods dwellings unfit for human habitation (Damaged Motor Cars) Bill.") and rehousing of occupants, 892. Applications for tenancy and purchase, Mount Buffalo - Development of tourist 1120. Lone person flats and homes for facilities at Cresta Valley, (qn.) 4093. the aged, 1167. Lease of area, ( qn.) 4093. Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Mount Buller - Provision of ambulance Board-Single track section of station, (qn.) 2927. Nicholson-street, Coburg, line, 367. Municipalities - Government assistance Municipal Association (Accident Insurance) for treatment of infectious diseases, Bill-Introduction and first reading, 827. 854; second reading, 854, 1108; remain Pensioners-Tram and train fares, 1407. ing stages, 1111. Pentridge Gaol-Staff, 2785. Municipalities- Potatoes-Shortage of supplies, 650. Administration-Provision of land for Increase in price, 650. housing of elderly citizens, 567. Railway Department-Supernumerary and Control of cinemas, (qn.) 1962. permanent staffs, 1763. Lease of land Making of industrial agreements, (qn.) for industrial purposes, 2070. Use of 2300. Elections: Amount of candi double-decker carriages, 3362. dates' deposits, 2464. Road Accidents-Prevention, 1583. Broadmeadows City Council-Notifica Roads-Designation of metropolitan tion re inspection of land, ( qn.) 4413. roads as highways, 1304. (92) INDEX.

Mutton, Mr. Charles-continued. P. Road Traffic - Speed limits, 784. Parliament-State opening, 17, 21. History Penalties for driving offences, 784. of Parliamentary Government, 753. State Electricity Commission-Rebates to Prorogation and commencement of new pensioners, 3285, 3960. session, 4763. Superannuation-Pension rates, 2431. Parliamentary Salaries Pensions and Super Free medical and hospital treatment annuation Bill-Appropriation resolu for State superannuated officers, 2431. tion, 2302; introduction and first read Totalizator-Dividend at Bendigo race ing, 2302; second reading, 2338, 2449; meeting, 1583. Committee, 2452; third reading, 2453. Totalizator Agency Board-Revenue, 510. Parliament House-Renovations and altera Payments, 510. Agencies, 510. Divi tions to kitchens, 597. Opossum dends, 2432. nuisance, 3608. Refreshment room ac Trotting Races-Revenue from show counts, 4217. ground meetings, 700, 701. Parole Boards-Cases handled, (qn.) 1301. Officers and qualifications, (qn.) 1301. N. Pensioners-Hospitals: Fees written off, National Parks-Mallacoota: File re ex (qn.) 316; Commonwealth grants, (qn.) cision, ( qn.) 513. 517. Fare concess.ions, (qn.) 1407. Electricity charges, ( qns.) 1766, 3285, National Parks (Amendment) Bill-Introduc 3960. Gas charges, (qn.) 3026. tion and first reading, 1216; second reading, 1313, 1537; Committee, 1542, Personal Explanations-Mr. Christie, 405. 1617; remaining stages, 1620. Council Mr. Rylah, 406. Mr. Stoneham, 1819. amendment dealt with, 2134. Mr. G. 0. Reid, 2302. Mr. Holding, 2605. Mr. Lovegrove, 3025. Mr. A. T. National Parks (Amendment) Bill (No. 2) Evans, 4746. Introduction and first reading, 3030; second reading, 3149, 4182; Committee, Pesticides Bill-Received from Council and 4203; remaining stages, 4208. Council first reading, 1028; second reading, amendments dealt with, 4571. 1104, 1620; Committee, 1630; remaining stages, 1631. North-West Mallee Settlers-Compensation, (qn.) 2791. Petitions-Re oil storage installations at Williamstown, 518, 554. Re administra o. tion of Aborigines' affairs, 2746. Petrol Filling Stations-Appeal against issue Obscene Publications - Magazine article, of permit, (qn.) 4279. 403. Proceedings re publication, 3711, 3712, 4763, 4765. Prosecutions, (qn.) 4411, 4763, 4765. (See also "Censor Phelan, Mr. W. (Kara Kara). ship.") Budget for Year 1964-65, 568. Oil Installations-Petition from Williams Building Industry-Activities of com town, 518, 554, ( qn.) 1763. Fire pre panies, 4510. cautions, 554, 1542, 1543, (qn.) 1763. Commonwealth Government Special Inspection of oil hoses at wharves and grant, 569. petrol storages, ( qns.) 1763, 1961. Companies Act-Action against fraudu Olympic Games-Government grants, (qn.) lent companies, 4510. 2677. Preservation and identification of Companies (Amendment) Bill, 4645. flag-pole, 4155. Country Fire Authority (Borrowing Onion Marketing Board-Members, (qn.) Powers) Bill, 285. 2894. Marketing of odourless onions, Country Roads Board-Reduction in allo (qn.) 2894. Amounts owing by agents, cations to municipalities, 571. (qn.) 2894. Acreage of onions, (qn.) Debate-Withdrawal of statement ob· 2895. jected to, 569. Opposition, The-Leader and Deputy Leader, Decentralization - Suggested advisory 21. committee, 225. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (93)

Phelan, Mr. W.-continued. Phelan, Mr. W.-continued. Decentralization Advisory Committee Bill, Victorian Inland Meat Authority-Leasing The, 1704, 2092. agreement with Swift Australian Com Education Department-Expenditure, 221. pany (Proprietary) Limited, 703. Technical education facilities in country Victorian Inland Meat Authority (Amend areas, 221. Maryborough Technical ment) Bill, 2753. College, 2070, 2136. Water (Recreational Areas) Bill, 2001. Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, 220. Workers Compensation (Amendment) Bill, Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 3541, 4587. 3878. Police Department- Home Finance (Amendment) Bill, 4601. Administration-Injuries to persons in Home Finance Trust-Loans, 3964. Allo custody: Statement by Mr. Justice cation of funds to country area, 4510. Sholl, (qn.) 363, 873; services of Dr. Housing Commission-Homes for rental, Macera, (qn.) 363. Escape of prisoners 4511. from Footscray police station, 552. In Immigration Department - Co-operation vestigation of threats to broadcaster, with Commonwealth Government, 4511. 742. Police districts: Number, officers Assisted passage scheme, 4512. in charge and promotions, (qn.) 2296. Isabella Wharton Trust-Design of single Investigation of conditions of Aborigines unit flats, 574. in Gippsland, ( qn.) 2678. Adequacy of Keilor Bridge-Additional works, 2070. Force, 2979. Report of Mr. J. T. Delay in opening, 2070. Cusack: Press statement, (qn.) 2971. La Trobe University Bill, 1090. Fawkner police area: Size, population, Local Government (Amendment) Bill, staff, revenue, traffic infringements, 2699, 4550, 4556. (qn.) 3479. Street disturbance in South Marketing of Primary Products (Egg Yarra, 4023, 4024. Charges under Farm Marketing) Bill, 4634. Produce Agents Act, (qn.) 4091. Sus Maryborough - Subsidy for cultural pensions of members, ( qn.) 4279. Ac centre, 571. costing of women at St. Kilda, 4764, Mines Department-Tragedy at Mary 4765. Report on fire at Springfield, borough, 2782. Safety measures for old 4765. mine shafts, 2836. Mines (Exploration Licences) Bill, 2126. Finance-1964-65 Budget statement, 91, Ministry-Appointment of Assistant Mini 444. ster of Education, 223. Motor Vehicles-Use on traffic control, Points of Order-Statement in debate, (qn.) 104, 111, (qn.) 1300, 2474. Pro 586. Order of business, 3834. Relevancy vision of, 723. of remarks, 4631. Search and Rescue Squad-Rescue opera Public Service-Increased staff, 569. tions in snowlands, 387. Training as Public Works Department-Purchase of skiers, ( qn.) 826. units for Education Department, 572. Staff-Number of traffic police, (qn.) Portable class-rooms, 786. 104, 111, (qn.) 1300, 2474. Strength of Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1209. Force, 104, 111, 444, 725, (qn.) 1301, Roads (Special Projects) Bill, 4121. 2475, (qn.) 1300, 2474. Strength of Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 4620. staff at Maidstone and Sunshine police State Rivers and Water Supply Commis- stations, ( qn.) 1764, 4506. Strength of sion-Curtailment of work in Goulburn staff in Fawkner-Broadmeadows area, Valley-Kyabram area, 571. (qn.) 2680. Gaming Squad: Personnel, Supply, 4510. (qn.) 2680. Police surgeons: Employ Taxation-State income tax, 570. ment of, (qn.) 3284; examinations by, Uniform Taxation-Reimbursements to (qn.) 3284. Duties of police and relief Victoria, 570. by civilians, (qn.) 3479. University Education-Location of third Stations-Conditions at Footscray police university, 223. station, 552. Construction of Niddrie Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4443, police station, ( qn.) 1404. Construction 4478, 4480, 4481. of Wodonga police station, (qn.) 1404. (94) INDEX.

Police Department-continued. Porter, Mr. M. V.-contin.ued. For Lower Plenty and Montmorency, Finance for metropolitan works, 2639, (qn.) 2432. For Longwarry, (qn.) 4092. Revenue from motor registration 2680. At Brunswick, ( qn.) 2785. fees, 3481. Traffic Regulation-Traffic "blitzes", Darebin Creek Bridge - Construction, (qn.) 104, 111, (qns.) 1764, 2632, 2633; 1963. drivers booked for offences, ( qn.) 104, Fishing Industry-Mooring fees, 2432. 111, (qns.) 1764, 1962, 2632, 2633; use Forests Commission - Expenditure on of breathalyzer, (qn.) 104, 111; taking roads, 184. of ignition keys, ( qn.) 104, 111; acci Fluoridation of Water Supplies-Esti dents, injuries and fatalities, ( qn.) 104, mated annual cost, 1406. 111; patrolling, (qn.) 105, 111, 813, Geelong Public Offices-Proposed con (qn.) 1300, 2474, 2972; number of police struction, 1307. engaged and hours of duty, (qns.) Grievance Day-Suspension of Standing 2632, 2633; use of mechanical instru Order, 2072. ments, (qn.) 2633. Parking infringe ments, (qn.) 2633. Foot and mobile Housing Commission - Expenditure on patrols in city and suburban areas, (qn.) roads, 184. 2634. Traffic and pedestrian control in Lakes Entrance-Registration of fishing city, (qn.) 2634. (See also "Traffic boats, 245. Sand-bar problem, 245. Commission " and " Traffic Regula Land Inspection-Notification to Broad tions.") meadows City Council, 4413. Police Offences (Betting Information) Bill Land Valuations-Increases, 1119. Deter In troduction and first reading, 1589; mination of values of rural lands, 1120. second reading, 1613, 1677; Committee Local Authorities Superannuation and remaining stages, 1681. (Amendment) Bill, 356, 650. Poliomyelitis. (See " Department of Health Local Government (Amendment) Bill, -Poliomyelitis.") 2010, 2104, 2703. Local Government (St. Kilda and Elwood Land Reclamation) Bill, 62, 63. Lower Yarra Crossing-Planning and Porter, Mr. M. V. (Sandringham). form, 4092. Acquisition of Materials Bill, 200, 1536, Marine (Amendment) Bill, 1589, 1612, 1537. 1806, 1807, 1808, 1809. Albert Park Reserve-Reconstruction of Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of roads, 367, 424. Works - Expenditure on roads, 184. Building Operations-Scaffolding inspec Moonee Ponds creek road development, tors, 2638, 2684. Safety measures, 2638, 512. Reduction in rates, 1588, 2685, 2684. 2787. Loan moneys, 2684. Departmental Bush Fires-Ministerial statement, 3194. charges, 2684. Investments, 2684. Business of the House-Hours of meeting, Revenue. 2684. Metropolitan Planning· 1901. Scheme, 2741, 3640. Findings of Metro Commonwealth Aid Roads Agreement politan Transport and Traffic Inquiry, Availability of funds to Country Roads 2741. Expansion of metropolitan area, Board, 108. 2741. Capital expenditure on essential Country Roads (Amendment) Bill, 62, 72, services, 2741. Essendon reservoir, 2784. 694. Medical examinations of visitors to, and Country Roads Board-Funds, 184, 973, staff at, O'Shannassy and Wallaby 1074. Payments to Tourist Fund, 184. creek catchment chalets, 2893. Acqui Road construction, 184. Grants to muni sition of and compensation for proper cipalities, 315, 424, 2298. Expenditure, ties in Brunswick and Coburg, 2974. 315. Reconstruction of roads in Albert Acquisition of property for ring road, Park reserve, 367, 424. Snow plough, 2975. Excess water charges, 2975. Open 511. Dispute re road making at Keilor, water channels, 3146. Work at Coburg 1029, 1306, 2070, 2138. Mutilation of on Merri creek, 3286. Ring road, 3640. signs on Fem Tree Gully-road, 2011. Voting of Boar

Porter, Mr. M. V.-continued. Porter, Mr. M. V.-continued. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Roads-Construction, 184, 247. Designa Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 2647, tion of metropolitan roads as highways, 2650, 3079. 1304. Construction of portion of Melbourne Harbor Trust-Expenditure on Heidelberg-road, Northcote, 1659. Price roads, 184. Condition of Nelson Pier, of road construction materials, 4414. Williamstown, 1307. Surplus winch, Road Traffic-Municipal traffic officers, 4092. 2742. Parking infringements detected, Metropolitan Fire Brigades Board-Con 2742; revenue, 2742. Location of park tributions by councils, 2975. Painting ing meters, 2742; revenue, 2742. of hydrants, 2975. Rodney, Shire of-Funds for drainage Metropolitan Road Planning-Canterbury works, 1166. road-Hoddle-street connexion, 1766. San Remo-Phillip Island Bridge-Plans, Metropolitan Water Supply-Addition of specifications and tenders for new chlorine, 701. bridge, 4280. Mildura (Rating on Unimproved Values) Sewerage-Connexions, and unsewered Bill, 112. premises, 2742. Mornington Reservoir-Establishment of South Melbourne (Unimproved Rating caravan park, 1311. Poll) Bill, 370, 371. Motor Boats-Registration fees and sea Surf Boards and Water Skis-Control, worthiness tests, 512. 2976. Municipal Association (Accident Insu Television Sets-Activities of maintenance rance) Bill, 854. firm, 3025. Municipalities - Funds, 184. Country Tomato Processing Industry (Uniform Roads Board allocations, 184, 1406. Agreement) Bill, 2330. Grants from Municipalities Assistance Town Planning-Proposed " ring road " Fund, 1305. Industrial agreements, through East Melbourne and Jolimont, 2300. Net annual values, 2787, 3145. 185. Revenue from metropolitan improve Traralgon Public Offices-Purchase of ment rate, 2787. land, 4413. Priority of work, 4413. Municipal Rates -Houses rented by teachers of registered schools, 3028. Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill Metropolitan racecourses, 3028. (No. 2), 2652, 2660, 2661. Portland Harbor Trust (Amendment) Bill, Valuation of Land (Valuations) Bill, 2433, 2584. 2663. 2435, 2436, 2574, 2576, 2577, 2578. Portland Harbor Trust (Borrowing Valuations - Increases in net annual Powers) Bill, 370, 371. values, 2432. Princes Bridge, Newtown-Opening, 891. Valuer-General's Branch-Cost, 2785. Construction, 973. Estimates of cost, Water Authorities Accident Insurance Bill, 973. 2647, 2651. Public Lands and Works Bill, 112, 194, 198, 1514, 1519, 1520. Portland Harbor Trust - Income from Public Works-Collapse of concrete bays investments and rents, (qn.) 2620. at Cultural Centre and Transport Assets, (qn.) 2620. Regulation Board building, 422. Portland Harbor Trust (Amendment) Bill Public Works Department-Expenditure Introduction and first reading, 2584; on roads, 184. Contract for science second reading, 2663, 2912; Committee block at Seymour High School, 107. and remaining stages, 2915. Council Site and tenders for Castlemaine High amendment dealt with, 3415. School, 108. Portable class-rooms, 786, 1406. Tenders for additions to Benalla Portland Harbor Trust (Borrowing Powers) Technical School, 973. Oncost charges, Bill - Appropriation resolution, 370; 2786, 2974. Cost of Architect's Branch, introduction and first reading, 370; 2974. second reading, 371, 676; remaining Public Works Loan Application Bill, 477, stages, 679. 654. Potatoes-Shortage, (qn.) 650. Price, (qn.) Racing (Amendment) Bill, 2076, 2077. 650. (96) INDEX.

Premier's Department - Overseas creden Public Lands and Works Bill-continued. tials, 4508. 198. Second reading resumed, 1514; Prices-Consumer price index numbers, 354. appropriation resolution, 1518; Com mittee, 1518; remaining stages, 1520. Primary Products- Standards of quality, packaging and marketing; New South Public Service-Increased staff, 569. Loans Wales legislation, (qn.) 2791. to officers for purchase of motor vehicles, ( qn.) 700. Printing Committee-Appointed, 57. Public Service Board-Application by Hos Prisons Division - Number of prisoners, pital Employees Federation, 2344, 2456. (qn.) 647. Imprisonment for non-pay Claims relating to salaries and con ment of debts, (qn.) 647. French Island ditions, (qns.) 2627, 2734. Penal Settlement: Escapes, (qn.) 1118. Pentridge Gaol: Staff, (qn.) 2785. Public Transport-Needs of fringe areas, Employment of psychiatrists, psycholo 119. Suggested staggering of hours of gists and social workers, (qn.) 3283. employment in city, 401. Comparison provision of pre-sentence reports, (qn.) of fares in different States, 440. 3283. Services in Shire of Flinders, ( qn.) 975. Concessional fares for students, (qn.) Probate-Interest in gifted property, (qn.) 4280. 3480. (See also "Administration and Public Trustee-Staff and activities, (qn.) Probate (Small Estates) Bill" and 2431. "Taxation-Probate Duty.") Public Water Supplies (Fluoridation) Bill Probation Officers-Travelling allowance, Introduction and first reading, 1215; (qn.) 3640. second reading, 1216. Property Law (Loans to Minors) Bill-Intro Public Works Committee-Assembly mem duction and first reading, 3031; second bers appointed, 57. reading, 3147, 3384; Committee and Public Works Department remaining stages, 3386. Council amend ment dealt with, 4154. Finance-Oncost charges, 564, ( qns.) 2785, 2973. Public Accounts-Budget result, 41. Need Ports and Harbors Branch-Condition of for increased revenue, 82, 587, 745. beaches and coastline, 923. Surpluses and deficits, 83, (qn.) 101, Schools-Cost of units purchased for Edu 374, 465, 541, 545. Commonwealth cation Department, 572, 586. Tenders grants, (qn.) 101, 319, 336, 378; need and contracts for portable class-rooms, for additional assistance, 2466. Total (qns.) 786, 1406. receipts between 1959-60 and 1964-65, Public Works Loan Application Bill-Appro (qn.) 101. Interest and sinking fund priation resolution, 477; introduction charges on deficits, ( qn.) 243, 428. and first reading, 477; second readi'ng, Comparison of Commonwealth tax re 654, ll ll, 1209, 1222; Committee, 1225, imbursements and State debt charges, 1313; remaining stages, 1357. 344. Capital debt, (qn.) 363. Loans raised for railway purposes, ( qn.) 363. R. Public Accounts, Committee of-Appointed, Racing (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and 57. Reports presented: Melbourne first reading, 1589; second reading, Harbor Trust Act 1958, 369. Derail 1660, 2073; resolution re payments to ments on the Victorian railway system, Consolidated Revenue, 2076; Com 2301. Proposed visit to New South mittee, 2076; remaining stages, 2077. Wales, 4343. Council amendments dealt with, 2574. Publications-Magazine article, 403. (See (See also " Totalizator Agency also " Censorship " and " Obscene Board.") Publications.") Public Lands and Works Bill-Introduction Rafferty, Mr. J. A. (Ormond). and first reading, 112; second reading, Apprenticeship-Statement by Common- 194. Referred to Statute Law Revision wealth Conciliation Commissioner, Committee for examination and report, 3367. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (97)

Rafferty, Mr. J. A-continued. Railway Department-continued. Australian Nurses Federation, Victorian City Underground Railway-Construc Section-Protest meeting, 2939. tion, 395. Chairman of Committees-Acceptance of Country Lines-Derailments, 44, 47, (qn.) nomination, 35. 108, 386, 476, 828, 2458. Wodonga Co-operative Housing Societies-Con Cudgewa line, (qns.) 512, 1497. Lack ditions, 819. of facilities on Sunlight service; 529. Country Roads Board-Allocation of Melbourne-Geelong service, (qns.) funds, 823. 1307, 1659; duplication of line, 2456, Education Department-Accident at (qn.) 4282. Lilydale-Warburton Carnegie State School crossing, 2979. service, 1716, 1717, 2134, 2136, 2457, Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, 2459. Time-tables on Dandenong 818. Gippsland line, 2240. Healesville line, Housing-Shortage, 819. 2457, 2459, (qn.) 3482. Maffra Housing Commission-Number of units Bairnsdale line: Sunday service, ( qn.) built, 819. 2743. Traralgon-Sale service, (qn.) Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, 2893. Kilmany over-pass, (qn.) 2893. 3242. Dismantling of Kooloonong to West Liberal and Country Party-Use of word Narrung line, (qn.) 3028. Sunday "Country" in name, 819. passenger services, ( qn.) 4283. Melbourne Harbor Trust-Proposed new Finance-Interest and sinking fund pay passenger terminal, 820. Payments to ments, 86, 534, (qn.) 1762. 1964-65 Consolidated Revenue, 821. Suggested Budget statement, 98. Results of imposition of outwards wharfage working in year 1963-64, 100. Rail charge, 821. way Equalization Account, 377, 428. Petrol Tax-Reimbursements to States, Railway Renewals and Replacements 823. Fund, 476. Profit from freight, 527. Points of Order-Relevancy of adjourn Increased payments to Railway ment motion, 830. Order of speakers, Accident and Fire Insurance Fund, 863. 845. Loan liability, ( qn.) 1762. Profit or Police Department-Adequacy of Force, loss on passenger, goods and livestock 2998. traffic, ( qn.) 1763. Income from Railway Department-North-road, Or investments and rents, (qn.) 2620. mond, level crossing, 821. Derail Assets, ( qn.) 2620. ments, 849. Freights and Fares-Increases, 98, (qn.) Sessional Period, Close of-Christmas 102, 317, 324, 329, 377, 395, 428, 441, felicitations, 2581. 452, 455, 458, 466, 471, 474, 527, 534, Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4427. 542, 551, 589, 591, 596, 599, 895, 896, Workers Compensation (Amendment) (qn.) 2620. Freight concessions to Bill, 3486, 4588, 4758. border towns, 330. Freight rates, 460. Yarra River-Lower Yarra crossing, 821. Anomalies in fares between Geelong and Melbourne, 590. Freight on super phosphate, wheat and oats, 924. Fare Railway Department- concessions to pensioners, ( qn.) 1407. Administration-Commissioners' report Charter rates for train hire, (qn.) on state of system, ( qn.) 108, 325. 1498. Anzac Day concessions, 2836, Appointment of primary producer as 2837. Railways Commissioner, (qn.) 246. Goods Services - Melbourne-Mildura Development of metropolitan area, 459. traffic, (qn.) 185, (qn.) 246, 528. Advertising, 529. Contribution to Carriage of grass hay to New South nation's exports, 925. Termination of Wales, 3417, 3418. employment of Mrs. J. Oldaker, (qn.) Land-Leases for industrial purposes, 3362. Investigation of rail transport, ( qn.) 2070. Rental revenue, ( qn.) 4502. Building of railways by 2070. Japanese, 4503. Co-operation with Level Crossings-At Ormond, 821. At Housing Commission and Transport Oakleigh, 915, 4022, 4024. Accidents, Regulation Board, 4506. ( qns.) 1166, 2893; fatalities and 5372/65.-4 (98) INDEX.

Railway Department-continued. Railways (Long Service Leave) Bill-Intro injuries, (qn.) 2893. Kilmany over duction and first reading, 854; second pass, ( qn.) 3786, 4491. At East reading, 854, 1107, remaining stages, Brunswick, 4023. 1108. Permanent Way - Replacement of sleepers, 978. Reid, Mr. G. 0. (Box Hill). Refreshment Services-Provision of potatoes with meals, 48. Apprenticeship-Statement by Common- Rolling-stock-Condition of carriages on wealth Conciliation Commissioner, Geelong-Melbourne service, 590. 3367. Double-decker carriages, ( qn.) 3362. Australian Nurses Fed_eration, Victorian Cleanliness of carriages, 3711. Use of Section-Protest meeting, 2941. reflective material, 4492. Basic Wage-Increase, 559. Staff-Incremental payments, 451, 3966. Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill, Down-grading of station master at 1589, 1663, 2007. Mildura, 528. Rates of pay of trades Boilers Inspection Branch-Reports of men, 542. Number employed, (qns.) Chief Inspector, 701, 1963. Salaries 1763, 4414. Supernumeraries and and expenditure, 785. Number of permanent employees, ( qn.) 1763. boiler inspectors, 786. Inspection of Turnover, (qn.) 4414. steam boilers and air and gas Stations, Sidings, Bridges and Buildings receivers, 1765. -Construction of Gowrie railway station, (qn.) 185, 813; opening, (qn.) Budget for Year 1964-65, 556. 3962. Smoke discharge from Geelong Building Trades-Employment of appren West locomotive depot, (qn.) 512; tices, 3786. removal or renovation of sheds, 591. Bush Fires-Grass fire in Lancefield Subway at Broadmeadows, 814. Addi district, 3228. tions to Spencer-street station, ( qn.) Business of the House-Order of 1308; concrete dropping from ceiling, business, 2941. 2458. Merri station: Replacement of Commonwealth and State Industrial fire-damaged buildings, (qns.) 1588, Awards-Policing, 1405. Reciprocal 4414. Kilmany over-pass, (qn.) 2893. arrangements, 1405. Time indicators at Flinders and Spencer streets, (qn.) 3362. Co-operative Housing Societies-Fitzroy Suburban Lines-Manning of stations, slum clearance project, 2454. 438, (qn.) 4414. Newport-Altona Estimates for Year 1964-65, 2454, 2456. line: Replacement and repair of Falls Creek-Expulsion of persons, 366. rolling-stock, (qn.) 2685. Cost of Progress association, 511. Issue of Glenroy-Tullamarine railway line, franchise for operation of ski school, (qn.) 3786. Fawkner-Upfield line: chair lift and ski tows, 826, 1074. Ski Time-table, ( qn.) 3962. Sunday pas tow licences, 3228. Granting of sites senger services, (qn.) 4283. Duplica for ski tows, 3285. tion of Macleod-Greensborough line, Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, 4501. (See also "Altona Railway 2471. Extension Bill " and " Glenroy to Hazelwood Township-Cost of establish Tullamarine Railway Construction ment, 3960. Bill.") Industrial Appeals Court - Responsi Railway Loan Application Bill-Appropria bilities, 903 tion resolution, 477; introduction and Labour and Industry Act-Long service first reading, 477; second reading, 694, leave of Government employees, 1119. 1125; Committee, 1163; remaining Prosecutions of shopkeepers in Bruns·· stages, 1165. wick and Coburg, 1405. Convictions, Railways (Funds) Bill - Introduction and 1587. Trading inspectors, 1587. first reading, 1589; second reading, Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, 1615, 1809; Committee, 1816; remain 1768, 2585, 2592, 3273, 3278, 3279, ing stages, 1819. 4564, 4565. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (99)

Reid, Mr. G. 0.-continued. Reid, Mr. G. 0.-continued. Labour and Industry, Department of employees at Geelong, 2740, 2784. Long service leave, 902. Standards of New power house in Latrobe Valley, industrial safety, 904. Administration 3027. Provision of electricity to of apprenticeships, 905. Illegal week Wilson's Promontory, 3786. Power end baking and deliveries, 1658, 1963, line from Frankston to BP refinery at 2973. Rates of pay for employees, and Crib Point, 3962. Transfer of Dayles inspection of books, of " Sunday " ford employees, 4765. bakeries, 1658. Overtime, annual leave State Electricity (Contributions) Bill, and long service leave of inspection 1768, 1887, 2133, 2453. staff, 1963. Reports of Chief Inspector Supply, 902. of Boilers, 701, 1963. Factories and shops inspectors, 2973. Victorian Inland Meat Authority Labour and Industry (Fees) Bill, 1598, Negotiations with Swift's, 2456. 1665. Labour and Industry (Long Service Reid, Mr. L. S. (Dandenong). Leave) Bill, 1311, 1409, 1500, 1503, Asian Countries-Population and food 1800, 1801. problems, 2350. Latrobe Valley-New power house, 3027. Personal Explanation - Statement in Education-Need for higher education, debate, 2302. 2349. Points of Order-Statement in debate, Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, 577. Reference to debates in Legis 2349. lative Council, 727. Relevancy of India-Government help for under remarks, 729, 1435, 3083. Scope of privileged people, 2350. Contracts for debate in third-reading stage, 3910. milk supplies, 2355. Proposed gift of Public Works-Collapse of concrete bays skimmed milk powder, 2355. at Cultural Centre and Transport Milk Products-Production and price of Regulation Board building, 366. powdered skim milk, 974. Overseas Road Transport-Cartage of clinker markets, 974. Export permits, 974. through Geelong, 1303. Mordialloc Public Hall and Court House Senate Vacancy, 1973, 1974. Bill, 4180. Stamps Bill (No. 2), 4100. Railway Loan Application Bill, 1142. Standing Orders-Suggested revision, 2472. Subordinate Legislation Committee State Electricity Commission-Purchase Report presented: Labour and In of electric power from New South dustry (Explosive-powered Tools) Wales, 183. Hazelwood power station, Regulations, 3147. 183, 3960. Expulsion of persons from Veterinary Surgeons (Amendment) Bill, Falls Creek, 366. Farm connexions, 4594. 366. Self-help scheme, 366. Cost of storage and maintenance and disposal Revocation and Excision of Crown Reserva value of briquetting plants Nos. 3 and tfons Bill-Introduction and first read 4, 366. Progress association at Falls ing, 62; second reading, 65, 672; Com Creek, 511. Increased charges, 556. mittee, 673; remaining stages, 673. Uniform tariffs, 558. Electricity supply for Tambo Valley, 973. Suspension of boiler house engineer, 1497. Yallourn Ring, Mr. E. C. (Preston). staff mess, 1497. Pensioner concession Dandenong Valley Authority (Amend rates for briquettes and electricity, ment) Bill, 3377. 1766, 2892, 3285, 3961. Take-over of Northcote municipal electrical under La Trobe University Bill, 1001. taking, 2297. Supply of power to Local Government (Councillors' Declara Bonang-Bendoc area, 2298. Generat tions) Bill, 357. ing costs, 2683. Concession tariffs for Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of youth clubs, 2471. Electric supply to Works-Work at Coburg on Merri Cape Paterson, 2740. Dismissal of creek, 3285. (100) INDEX.

Ring, Mr. E. C.-continued. Rossiter, Mr. J. F.-continued. Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Debate - Withdrawal of statements Board-Track mileage, 891. Cost of objected to, 1227, 1991. maintenance, 891. Staff, 891. Over Education Department - Spensley-street, time payments, 891. Import and Clifton Hill, State School: Condition, manufacture of trams, 2790. 255; outbreak of hepatitis, 1215. 1964 Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1346. edition of The Blue Book, 1259. Con Road Construction-Price of materials, veyance allowances to regional 4414. technical schools, 2137. Alternative accommodation for students of Road-making Materials-Acquisition: Com Toolern Vale State School, 2676. pensation to property owners, (qn.) School libraries, 2443. Commonwealth 647. Prices, (qn.) 4414. scholarships, 2443. Facilities for adult education, 2443. Quarry operations Roads - Presentation of return, 247. adjacent to Fyansford State School, Suggested appointment of Parlia 2444. Caretaker's residence at Mel mentary committee, 549. Bottle-neck bourne Boys' High School, 2444. Fire at North Melbourne, 2347. (See also danger at Maribyrnong High School, " Commonwealth Aid Roads Agree 2941. Sanitary conditions at Fern Tree ment," IC Country Roads (Amendment) Gully North State School, 3712. News Bill" and IC Country Roads Board.") paper report re Murrumbeena High Roads (Special Projects) Bill-Resolution School, 4218. fixing fees, 3566; introduction and first Estimates for Year 1964-65, 2443. reading, 3568; second reading, 3568, Forests Commission - Extraction of 4101; Committee, 4149, 4326; third timber from Errinundra plateau, 3029, reading, 4343. 3485. Revenue and expenditure, 3641. Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill-Received Royalties, 3641. Personnel engaged on from Council and first reading, 4022; fire-fighting operations, 3641. second reading, 4094, 4603; Committee, Gonorrhoea-Incidence, 4418. 4626; third reading, 4627. Hazelwood - Provision of housing, schools and infant welfare centres, 2071. Rossiter, Mr. J. F. (Brighton). Health (Household Insecticides) Bill, Air Pollution-Measurements, 110. Areas 3229. affected, 110. Breaches of regulations, Health (Offensive Trades) Bill, 2102, 110. 2114. Budget for Year 1964-65, 597. Health (Tuberculosis Arrangement) Bill, Cancer (Amendment) Bill, 1589, 1667, 3031. 1973. Home Finance (Amendment) Bill, 3710, Cancer Institute Board-Mobile clinics, 3790. 1167. Home Finance Trust-Loans, 3964. Churchill Township - Establishment, 3030. Erection of houses, 3030. Hospitals-Beds, charges, and · patients1, Cigarettes-Advertising, 4093, 4416. 187, 2977. Income from fees for Health dangers, 4093. public ward beds, 316. Sum written Clean Air Act-Air pollution, 110. off for pensioners and indigent persom; Measurement of discharge of smoke occupying beds in public wards, 316. and fumes at Geelong locomotive Commonwealth grants for pensioner depot, 369. Finance, 649. Escape of payments, 517. Nursing staff, 2977. fumes at Yarraville, 3228. Investiga Employees living out and married., tions in Geelong area, 3365. Assist 3029. Hospital Nurses Wages Boardl, ance to municipalities, 4345. Per 3029. Living-out payment to nurses, sonnel and meetings of Clean Air 3029. Committee, 4417. Enforcement of Act Hospitals and Charities Commission- and regulations, 4417. First aid huts at Mount Buller and Co-operative Housing Societies (In Falls Creek, 2977. Subsidies for demnities) Bill, 1776, 1990, 1991, 2072. medical practitioners, 3367. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (101)

Rossiter, Mr. J. F.-continued. Rossiter, Mr. J. F.-continued. Housing (Amendment) Bill, 1410, 1888, Medical Graduates-Service as resident 1893, 2080, 2086, 2087. medical officers in public hospitals, Housing Commission - Carlton and 316. Fitzroy slum reclamation projects, 186. Medicines-Registration and advertising Applications for Darby and Joan and of proprietary lines, 974. single unit flats, 369. Employment of Mental Hygiene Authority-Wages and artisans, 704. Dismissal of painters, working conditions of employees, 2071. 704, 786, 1588. Demolition of Mentally Retarded Children - Institu dwellings unfit for human habitation, tional accommodation, 3964. 892. Purchase of homes, 974, 1121, Monash University - Dismissal of 2979. Homes for rental, 974, 1767. cleaners, 78. Applications for tenancy, 1121, 1309, Mornington Reservoir-Establishment of 2896, 2979. Lone person flats and caravan park, 1308. homes for the aged, 1167. Houses in Municipalities - Government assistance Geelong, 1168, 1588, 4417. Units in for treatment of infectious diseases, western suburbs, 1309. Walker-street, 827. Northcote, estate, 1309, 1409. Purchase Pines-Private plantings, 1589. of land by churches and church Public Works Loan Application Bill, schools, 1964. Amount outstanding on 1327, 1356. purchase of homes, 1967. No-deposit Reduced Cream-Samples taken and purchase scheme, 1967. Integration of thickening additives, 704. Fitzroy housing project with municipal Sewerage-Installation of septic systems zoning plan, 2646. Canning-street, outside metropolitan area, 513. Carlton, project, 2646. Construction Sirex Wasp-Expenditure on eradication and allocation of homes at Seymour, campaign, 3367. 2646. Housing in Geelong area for State Insurance Funds Bill, 213. employees of Alcoa of Australia Subordinate Legislation (Amendment) Proprietary Limited, 2687, 2899. Main Bill, 3801. tenance work, 2791, 2896. Construc University Education-Planning, 598. tion of housing units, 2896. Evictions University of Melbourne-Admission to and rehousing, 2979. Sale of homes in and graduations from dental faculty, Oxley-court, Broadmeadows, 3029. 1587. Provision of homes for decentralized Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4484. industries, 3286. Cost of slum X-ray Examinations-Compulsory chest reclamation, 3287. examinations, 517. Immunization-Infection of children at Echuca, 315. Sterilization equipment and method, 315. Institutional Staff Superannuation Fund Royal Commonwealth Society - Suggested -Terms of reference and personnel of Government grant, 2449. advisory committee, 3484. Introduc Rural Finance and Settlement Commission tion of proposals, 3484. -1964-65 Budget statement, 96. Justices (Registration) Bill, 3053. Rural Finance and Settlement Commission La Trobe University Bill, 1002, 1027. Bill-Received from Council and first Leukaemia-Deaths, 425. Causes and reading, 3710; second reading, 3789, notification, 425. 4599; Committee and remaining stages, Librarian, The-Death of Mr. F. J. Perry, 4600. 2733. Local Government (Amendment) Bill, 4563. Rylah, Mr. A. G. (Kew). Local Government (St. Kilda and Elwood Aborigines-Financial contributions for Land Reclamation) Bill, 716. education of children, 106, 181. Re Meat Industry-Inspection of meat, 1310. housing and integration, 2069. Lake Medical (Amendment) Bill, 1901, 1967. Tyers settlement: Population, 244; Medical (Foreign Practitioners) Bill, housing, 244; return of former resi 3586. dents, 244; future, 2678. Investigation (102) INDEX.

Rylah, Mr. A. G.-continued. Rylah, Mr. A. G.-continued. of condition of Aborigines in Gippsland, Cultural Centre - Estimated cost, 2636. 2678. Inspection by Board, 2890. Pro Works schedule, 2636. vision of housing in Morwell, 4410. Custody of Children-Court orders, 1302. Aborigines (Amendment) Bill, 2584, 2765, Debate - Withdrawal of statements ob 2775, 3706, 3707, 3709. jected to, 1544, 3225. Aborigines Welfare Board-Acquisition of Deeds of Gift-Interest in gifted property, property, 2069. Report of Dr. D. Bar 3480. wick, 2069. Establishment of settle Default Summonses-Warning, 1029. ments, 2890. Inspection of Lake Tyers Delinquent Boys-Proposed establishment Aboriginal Station, 2890. of training centre at Altona West, 1764. Acquisition of Materials Bill, 189. Electoral-South-Eastern Province by Advertising-Prosecutions for false and election, 900. Number of electors in misleading statements, 2890. electoral districts and provinces, 2630. Agriculture, Department of-Seed testing Electoral Districts and Provinces Bill, laboratories, 3565. 3485, 3575, 3583, 4021. Appeal Costs Fund (Amendment) Bill, Estate Agents Bill, 1312. 2583, 2661. Fisheries and Game (Reduced Licence Appropriation Bill, 2459. Fees) Bill, 370. Australian Congress for International Co Fishing Industry-Seal problem in Corio operation and Disarmament, 182. Bay, 3850. Investigation of tuna Brunswick Free Library - Government fisheries by Commonwealth and Tas grant, 182. manian Governments, 3960. Bush Fires-Ministerial statement, 2604, Friendly Societies (Assignment of Con 2679, 2687, 2791, 2802. Offer of equip tracts) Bill, 2574. ment by Department of Civil Aviation, Gaols-Prisoners, 648. Imprisonment for 2735. Efficiency of equipment of Yarra non-payment of debts, 648. Escapes wonga Fire Brigade, 2736. Destruction from French Island Penal Settlement, of livestock, 3027. 1118. Shortage of staff at Pentridge, Business of the House--Order of business, 2785. Employment of psychiatrists, 406, 3417, 3971, 4024. psychologists and social workers, 3283. Censorship- Discussions with Common Grievance Day-Suspension of Standing wealth authorities re uniformity, 785. Order, 1409, 3485. Clearways-Location, 2736. Policing, Health Act-Prosecution by South Bar 2736. Government subsidies to muni won Shire Council, 1637. cipalities, 2736. House Committee-Appointment, 57. Committee of Public Accounts-Appoint Housing Commission - Assistance for ment, 57. deserted wives, 1117. Need for lifts in Companies Act - Investigation of com tall flats, 1357. Appointment of wel panies, 105. Reid-Murray group, 105, fare officers to assist elderly tenants, 2637. Interim report of inspector on 1357. Stanhill Development Finance Limited Inquiry Agents-Licences, 314, 2632. In and other companies, 247. Factors surance investigators, 314. Equipment Limited, 1543. used, 2632. Companies (Amendment) Bill, 3225, 3290. Insurance Companies-Authorized in Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 2), 926. surers, 314. Motor car third-party Constitution Act Amendment (Sub- business, 314. State Motor Car Insur ordinate Legislation Committee) Bill, ance Office, 314. The, 3368 Juries (Women Jurors) Bill, 370. Consumers Protection Bill, 2570. Justices (Indictable Offences) Bill, 2585. Country Fire Authority-Appointment and Lake Tyers Aboriginal Station-Popula- salary of full-time, chairman, 4091. tion, 244. Housing, 244. Return of Country Fire Authority Bill, 3228, 3292. former residents, 1301. Crimes (Amendment) Bill, 112. Landlord and Tenant Act-Effect of High Crimes (Parole) Bill, 3368, 3485, 3584. Court decision on rent control, 2431. Croatian Liberation Movement-Report Land Valuation and Rating-Appeals, on activities, 359, 785. 4418. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (103)

Rylah, Mr. A. G.-continued. Rylah, Mr. A. G.-continued. La Trobe Library-Air-conditioning, 2637. Macera, 363. Ski training for members Law Department-Cases awaiting trial, of Police Search and Rescue Squad, 364, 2972. Improvements to Oakleigh 826. Mobile Traffic Police, 1300. court-house, 1117. Construction of Strength of Force, 1301. Construction court-house at Dromana, 3026. of Niddrie police station, 1404. Con Legal Aid (Costs) Bill, 3414, 3416. struction of Wodonga police station, Library Committee-Appointment, 57. 1404. Increase in police numbers to Library Services of Victoria-Report of cope with vandalism in Braybrook Board of Inquiry, 60, 61, 1583. Govern Maidstone area, 1764. Traffic blitzes~ ment action, 1583. 1765, 2632. Booking of motorists, 1765, Liquor Industry-Report of Royal Com 2632. Police districts and personnel in mission, 2677, 3368. Press statement, charge, 2296. Police stations at Lower 3026. Plenty and Montmorency, 2432. Num Local Government (Councillors' Declara ber, and hours of duty of, police tions) Bill, 356, 357. personnel engaged in traffic blitzes, Maintenance Bill, 2661, 2747. 2632. Use of mechanical detection Marine Stores and Old Metals (Welfare equipment, 2634. Police employed in and Community Organizations) Bill, detection of parking infringements, 1663. 2634. Foot and mobile patrols, 2634. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Traffic and pedestrian control, 2634. Works - South-eastern interceptor, Number of vehicles fitted with safety sewer, 58. belts, 2636. Police station at Long Melbourne Sailors' Home Bill, 2110. warry, 2680. Personnel and patrols in Members-Leave of absence for Mr. Fawkner-Broadmeadows area, 2680. Fennessy, 370. Gaming Squad, 2680. New police Mines (Exploration Licences) Bill, 2129. station at Brunswick, 2785. Press Motor Boats-Registration fees, 4277, statement re report of Mr. J. T. 4409. Launching ramps, 4277, 4409. Cusack, 2971. Highway patrols, 2972. Motor Car (Fines and Drivers' Licence Reconstruction, use and cost of old Fees) Bill, 868, 869. Dental Hospital building, 3144. Employ Motor Vehicle Registration Plates ment of police surgeons, and examina Defects, 701. tions undertaken, 3284. Duties of Motor Vehicles-Roadworthiness tests, policemen, 3479. Relief by civilians, 1215. Number stolen and recovered, 3479. Fawkner police area, 3480. Pro 2629; prosecutions, convictions, and ceedings re The Trial of Lady Chatter compensation paid to owners, 2629. ley, 3712. Street disturbance in South Safety belts, 2636. Yarra, 4024. Investigation into allega "Mr. Whippy" Ice-cream-Issue of food tions of intimidation of, and extortion hawker's licence, 2972. from, fruit and vegetable producers, Oakleigh City Council-Deputation to 4091. Suspensions, 4279. Minister of Health, 359. Police Offences (Betting Information) Obscene Publications-Prosecutions, 4411. Bill, 1589, 1613. Oil-Safety precautions with oil installa Portland Harbor Trust (Amendment) Bill, tions, 1543. Inspections of oil hoses, 3415. 1763, 1962. Printing Committee-Appointment, 57. Parole Boards-Cases handled, 1301. Prisons Division-Shortage of staff at Number, duties and qualifications of Pentridge Gaol, 2785. Employment of parole officers, 1301. psychiatrists, psychologists and social Personal Explanation-Statement in de workers, 3283. bate, 406. Probation Officers - Suggested special Points of Order-Statements in debate, training class, 3640. Travelling allow 578, 579, 1542. Relevancy of remarks, ance, 3640. 4148. Public Trustee-Staff and administration, Police Department-Statement by Mr. 2431. Justice Sholl re injuries to prisoners in Public Works Committee-Appointment, custody, 363, 874. Services of Dr. 57. (104) INDEX.

Rylah, Mr. A. G.-continued. Rylah, Mr. A. G.-continued. Racing (Amendment) Bill, 1589, 1660, State Development Committee-Appoint 2574. ment, 57. Reid Murray Group-Directors' fees and State Disaster Plan-Implementation and travelling expenses, 364, 423. Antici procedure, 2681. pated losses, 364, 423. State Insurance Funds Bill, 62, 75. Statute Law Revision Committee Road Accidents-Prevention, 1583. Appointment, 57. Road Traffic-Congestion in Heidelberg Stratum Titles-Requirements of War road, 357. Road fatalities and injuries, Service Homes Division, 3145. 105, 111, 784, 1297, 2627, 2972. Motor Subordinate Legislation (Amendment) car registrations and drivers' licences, Bill, 3368, 3415. 105, 111, 1297, 2627, 2972. Tests for Subordinate Legislation Committee unroadworthy vehicles, 105, 111, 1297, Appointment, 57. 2627, 2972. Speed limits, 784. Penal Supply, 900, 926, 2459. ties for driving offences, 784. Hazards Theatres, Motion Picture-Ownership, created by newsboys, 824. Accidents, 1962. Employment, 1962. Municipal casualties, and breaches of speed limits control, 1962. on Western Highway, Sunshine, 826. Theatres (Sunday Films) Bill, 1767, 1769. Accident preventive measures, 1297. Totalizator-Dividend at Bendigo race Drivers' licences: Fees and revenue, meeting, 1583. 1299. Motor registration fees and sur Totalizator Agency Board-Managers, charge: Revenue, 1299. Bookings for 648. Dividends, 2432. Agencies in traffic offences, 1962. Designations of Fitzroy, and revenue, 2629. Distribu statutory authorities controlling traffic, tion of profits, 2629. Employment of 2433. Pedestrian hazard at junction of inspectors, 2629. Bourke and Spring streets, 2784. Ustashi, The-Police report, 785. Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 4022. Vagrancy Bill, 2583, 2598, 2602. School Crossings-Construction of over Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill, 60, passes, 4025. 112, 2584. Shark Guns-Ban in Victoria, 2068. Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill (No. 2), 2584. Sheep Owners Protection (Amendment) Valuation of Land (Valuations) Bill, Act-Proclamation, 244. 2356. Shell Pipelines Bill, 62, 76, 1663, 2321, Victorian Wage Earners-Salaries under 2322, 2327, 2328, 2578. £2,000, 3283. Social Welfare Branch-Committals to Workers Compensation - Insurance youth training centres, 365. Persons premiums, 3142. Claims during 1961-64, under jurisdiction of Youth Parole 3143. Insurers and insurance rates, Board, 365. Orders for transfers to 3143, 3144. Cases handled by State gaol, 365. Social workers, 511. Parole Accident Insurance Office, 3143. Pre Boards, 1301. Delinquent Boys' Train miums and claims of certain com ing Centre at Altona West, 1764. (See panies, 3480. also " Gaols " and " Prisons Division.") Workers Compensation Board-Report Speaker, The-Leave of absence, 77. on operations, 182. Cases heard and Temporary relief, 3565. awaiting determjnation, 364, 3142. Annual reports, and administration Stamps Act-Appeal by Mr. J. D. Pacton costs, 3144. Petty against decisions of Comptroller Youth Welfare-Government grants to of Stamps, 1118. youth clubs, 784. Stamps Bill, 2343. s. Stamps Bill (No. 2), 3968. Sale of Land Bill-Introduction and first Standing Orders Committee-Appoint reading, 3002; second reading, 3294, ment, 57. 3803; Committee, 3830; remaining Stanhill Development Finance Limited stages, 3833. Council amendments Directors' fees and travelling expenses, dealt with, 4564. 364, 423. Anticipated losses, 364, 423. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (105)

Scanlan, Mr. A. H. (Oakleigh). Schintler, Mr. G. R.-continued. Budget for Year 1964-65, 601. Country Roads Board-Bridge in Dynon Chairman of Committees-Election of Mr. road over North Melbourne railway Rafferty, 34. station, 2347. Country Roads Board-Mutilation of Education Department - Provision of signs· on Fem Tree Gully-road, 2010. sporting equipment for schools, 2349. Education Department-Open days at Fisheries and Game (Reduced Licence Oakleigh schools, 1028. Oakleigh Fees) Bill, 671, 672. secondary education facilities, 913. Administration, 915. Oakleigh High Forests Commission-Royalties on timber, School, 3481. Newspaper report re 553. Murrumbeena High School, 4216. Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, Governor's Speech-Address-in-Reply, 216. 2346. Knopfelmacher, Dr.-Retention in Vic Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill, toria, 4763. 3872. Marine Stores and Old Metals (Welfare Health (Tuberculosis Arrangement) Bill, and Community Organizations) Bill, 3383. 1673. Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Board - Implementation of regulation Works-Water connexions, 216. relating to one-man bus operations, 246. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Staff, 2789. Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 2935. Mentally Retarded Children-Institutional Metropolitan Fire Brigades Board-Liquid accommodation, 3964. fuel: Fire hazard in homes, 555. Oakleigh City Council-Deputation to Oil Fuel-Domestic consumption, 3361. Minister of Health, 358. Effect on briquette sales, 3361. Taxa Oakleigh Court-house-Proposed improve tion, 3361. ments, 1117. Oil Hoses-Inspection at wharves and Railway Department-Warrigal-road, Oak petrol storages, 1763. Testing, 1961. leigh, level crossing, 915, 4022. Time Police Department-Footscray police tables on Dandenong and Gippsland station, 552; escape of prisoners, 552. lines, 2240. Portland Harbor Trust (Amendment) Bill, Railway Loan Application Bill, 1134. 2914. State Film Centre-Use in providing Railway Department-Increased freights historical records, 218. and fares, 551. Supply, 913. Railway Loan Application Bill, 1161. Taxation-Reintroduction of State income Revocation and Excision of Crown tax, 601. Reservations Bill, 672. Uniform Taxation-System, 602. Reim Shell Pipelines Bill, 2317. bursement formula, 603. Social Welfare-Case of Phillip Micalef, Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4448. 2347. Water Supply-Statement of British Water Soil Conservation (Water Resources) Bill, Resources Board on nuclear desaliniza 3392. tion, 3286. Stamps Bill, 1869. State Savings Bank-Suggested alteration Schintler, Mr. G. R. (Yarraville). to charter re housing loans, 4505. Aborigines (Amendment) Bill, 3669. Supply, 4504. Budget for Year 1964-65, 551. Taxation-Comparison of taxation in Cattle Compensation (Amendment) Bill, various States, 551. 2703. Williamstown Oil Storages, 554. Clean Air Act-Escape of fumes at Y arraville, 3226. Scientology-Board of Inquiry: Cost and Co-operative Housing Societies-Need for findings, ( qn.) 104. finance, 4504. Senate-Functions, 347. (106) INDEX.

Senator, Election of-Message re vacancy Soil Conservation (Water Resources) Bill in representation of Victoria in Senate -Introduction and first reading, 3030; through death of Senator H. W. Wade, second reading, 3034, 3386; Committee, 1973, 1986; election, at joint sitting of 3393; remaining stages, 3397. both Houses, of Mr. James Joseph South Melbourne (Unimproved Rating Poll) Webster, announced, 2453; report of Bill-Introduction and first reading, proceedings of joint sitting, 2488. 370; declared a private Bill, 370; motion Sewerage-Septic systems outside metro to treat as public Bill agreed to, 370; politan area, (qn.) 513. second reading, 371, 445; remaining stages, 445. · Sewerage Districts Bill-Introduction and first reading, 704; second reading, 710, Speaker, The-Election of Sir William 864; Committee, 867; remaining stages, McDonald, 18. Presentation to the 868. Council amendments dealt with, Governor, 21. Absence, 312. Leave 1504. of absence, 3087, 3608. Temporary relief in chair, 3565. Shark Guns-Ban in Victoria, (qn.) 2068.

Sheep Owners Protection (Amendment) Act Speaker, The (Sir William McDonald). -Proclamation, ( qn.) 244. Auditor-General's Report for Year ended Shell Pipelines Bill-Introduction and first 30th June, 650. Supplementary report, reading, 62; declared a private Bill, 75; 893. motion that Bill be dealt with as a Bills Declared Private-Local Government public Bill except in relation to fees (St. Kilda and Elwood Land Reclama agreed to, 76; second reading, 76, 1663, tion) Bill, 63; Land (Special Grant) 2304; Committee, 2321; remaining Bill, 64; Shell Pipelines Bill, 75; Muni stages, 2328. Council amendments cipal Association (Accident Insurance) dealt with, 2578. Bill, 1110; Melbourne Sailors' Home Sirex Wasp-Expenditure on eradication Bill, 2110. campaign, (qn.) 3367. Chairman of Committees-Election of Mr. Rafferty, 33, 34, 35. Social Welfare Branch - 1964-65 Budget Chairmen of Committees, Temporary statement, 91. Committals to youth Appointment, 35. training centres, (qn.) 365. Persons Commission to Swear Members, 27. under jurisdiction of Youth Parole Commonwealth Parliamentary Association Board, ( qn.) 365. Orders for transfers -Meeting, 1768. to gaol, ( qn.) 365. Trained social Constitution Act Amendment (Respon workers: Number employed, (qn.) 511; sible Ministers) Bill, The, 38. recruitment, (qn.) 511; provision of Consumers Protection Bill, 2484. part-time courses, 723. Establishment of delinquent boys' training centre at Deaths-Sir Albert Eli Lind, M.L.A., 26. Altona West, ( qn.) 1764. (See also The Hon. E. J. Hogan, 60. " Parole Boards " and " Prisons Divi Debate-Interjections, 264, 746, 747, 749, sion.") 807, 808, 809, 841, 1185, 1427, 1705, 2772, 2780, 3060, 3203, 3215, 3318, 3476, Social Welfare (Cadetships) Bill-Introduc 3501, 3503, 3509, 3522, 3528, 3530, 3972, tion and first reading, 2584; second read 3983, 3989, 4101, 4451, 4586. Relevancy ing, 2597, 2667; Committee, 2671; of remarks, 743, 804, 806, 997, 1113, remaining stages, 2674. 1127, 1183, 1223, 1224, 1542, 1544, 1632:, 1637, 1679, 1696, 1697, 1701, 1705, 1707, Social Welfare (Trainees) Bill - Received 1709, 1988, 1989, 1990, 2603, 2763, 307!>, from Council and first reading, 1635; 3320, 3504, 4599, 4628, 4631, 4633, 4747, second reading, 1668; Committee and 4762. Personal explanation made only remaining stages, 2484. by leave, 750. Discussions concerning Soil Conservation Authority - 1964-65 members of other Houses of Parlia Budget statement, 97. File re " Mount ment to be avoided, 810. Motion for Bolton", Learmonth, (qn.) 247. Erosion adjournment of House to discuss urgent in East Gippsland, 809. matter to be confined to a single and LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (107)

Speaker, The (Sir William McDonald) Stamps Act-Appeal by Mr. J. D. Paxton continued. Petty, (qn) 1118. Administration re specific matter, 828, 830. Order of gifts, 4495. speakers, 845, 4124. Member to address (See also "Taxation-Stamp Duty.") the Chair, 1211, 4761. Member to refer Stamps Bill-Resolution fixing duties, 1590; to one subject only on motion for introduction and first reading, 1594; adjournment of sitting, 1457. Member second reading, 1594, 1861; Committee, to express his own opinions and not 1873; remaining stages, 1882. Council anticipate what will be said in another amendments dealt with, 2343. place, 1979. Member not to reflect on Stamps Bill (No. 2)-Appropriation resolu forms and resolutions of House unless tion, 3965; introduction and first read moving substantive motion concerning ing, 3965; second reading, 3968, 4098; them, 2481. Amendment being a direct Committee, 4099; remaining stages, negative of motion, 2570. Reference to 4100. actions of Legislative Council, 2572. Member not to speak twice during Stamps (Motor Car) Bill-Resolution fixing second-reading debate, 2824. Use of rates of duty, 1207; introduction and expressions objected to, 2988, 3059, first reading, 1207; second reading, 3177, 3224, 3225, 3503, 4755. Member 1208, 1437; Committee and remaining entitled to discuss report of committee, stages, 1440. 3078. No debate allowed on motion that Standing Orders-Reference to debates in Bill be declared urgent, 3502. Member Legislative Council, 55. Need for must confine remarks to motion or examination, 2472. amendment, 3507. Member may speak Standing Orders Committee-Appointed, 57. to motion twice only by leave, 3511, State Coal Mine-Miners trapped at Kirrak, 4757. Quorum for Legislative Assembly, (qn.) 650, 696; damage, (qn.) 703; 4106. Order of speakers, 4124. Tabling employment pending repairs, (qn.) 703. of document quoted from, 4577. Amendment submitted by Legislative State Development Committee-Assembly Council, 4579. members appointed, 57. Election as Speaker, 19, 20; presentation State Disaster Plan-Implementation, (qn.) to Governor, 21. 2680. Procedure, ( qn.) 2680. Applica tion during bush fires, ( qn.) 2680. Governor's Speech-Address-in-Reply, 27; presentation of Address-in-Reply, 2574, State Electricity Commission- 2583. Administration-Municipal undertakings, Labour and Industry (Long Service Leave) 439, 470; Northcote, ( qn.) 2297. Pro Bill-Instruction to Committee, 1788, gress association at Falls Creek, (qn.) 1789, 1793, 1796. 511. Traffic accident at Ascot Vale, 537. Future power development, (qn.) 3027. Librarian, The-Death of Mr. F. J. Perry, Route of power line Frankston-Crib 2734. Point, (qn.) 3962. Members-Parliamentary service of Sir Briquettes-Plants Nos. 3 and 4: Cost, Herbert Hyland, 1985. Illness of Mr. storage and maintenance charges, and Taylor, 4178. disposal value, (qn.) 366, 597. Conces Naming of Member, 3216, 3223. sion prices to pensioners, (qn.) 2892. Olympic Flag-pole-Preservation and Brown Coal-Proposed royalty, 86, 317, identification, 4155. 322, 455, 469, 536, 896. (See also " Fuel Parliamentary Salaries Pensions and Oil.") Superannuation Bill, 2452. Charges-Increases, 321, 338, 379, 436, Senate Vacancy-Election of Mr. J. J. 439, 455, 469, 535, 556, 561, (qn.) 2619. Webster, 2453. Joint sitting of both Uniform tariffs, 321, 334, 440, 460, 538, Houses, 2488. 540, 558, 732, 898. To Alcoa of Austra Sessional Period, Close of-Christmas lia Pty. Ltd., 322, 736. To Swift felicitations, 2582. Australian Co. (Pty.) Ltd., 736. Con Valuation of Land (Valuations) Bill, 2435. cessions to pensioners, ( qns.) 1766, 3285, 3960; to youth clubs, 2465, 2471. (108) INDEX.

State Electricity Commission-continued. State Rivers and Water Supply Commission Electricity Supplies-Purchase of power -continued. from New South Wales, (qn.) 183, 441. Acquisitions for water conservation Farm connexions, (qn.) 366, 568; self programme, (qn.) 3365. Assaults on help scheme, (qn.) 366. For Tambo water bailiffs, ( qn.) 3484. Valley, (qn.) 972. For Bonang-Bendoc Chowilla Dam-Supply levels, (qn.) 247. area, ( qn.) 2298. Generating costs, Drainage-Gannawarra-Picanniny scheme; (qn.) 2683. For Cape Paterson, (qn.) (qn.) 3365. 2740. Finance-1964-65 Budget statement, 94. Finance-Assets, investments and profits, Amortization of capital works, 897. (qn.) 102, (qn.) 2619. Income from investments and rents, Hazelwood Power Station-Effect on elec ( qn.) 2620. Assets, ( qn.) 2620. tricity production and costs, ( qn.) 183. Irrigation Districts-Number and financial Cost, ( qn.) 3960. results, ( qn.) 3483. Use of Pyramid Staff-Suspension of boiler-house engineer creek, (qn.) 4416. (qn.) 1497. Yalloum staff mess, (qn.) Mornington Reservoir-Establishment of 1497. Dismissal of employees at Gee caravan park, (qn.) 1308, 1310; disposal long, (qn.) 2740, 2783, 2784. Transfer of effluent, ( qn.) 1308, 1310. of Daylesford employees, 4764, 4765. River Improvement Trusts-1964-65 State Electricity Commission (Contribu Budget statement, 96. tions) Bill-Introduction and first read Sewerage-Frankston scheme, ( qn.) 1120. ing, 1768; second reading, 1887, 2130; Water Supply and Works-Cost of water, Committee, 2133; remaining stages, 119. Availability of water for irriga 2134. Council amendment dealt with, tion, 400. Curtailment of works in 2453. Goulbum Valley-Kyabram area, 571. State Film Centre-Provision of historical Provision of town water supplies, 732, records, 218. 911. Connexions to Bellarine Peninsula State Forests Loan Application Bill-Appro pipe-line, (qn.) 892; negotiations with priation resolution, 189; introduction Geelong Waterworks and Sewerage and first reading, 189; second reading, Trust, ( qn.) 2895. Number of water 202, 683; Committee, 689; remaining authorities in Victoria, (qn.) 1406. stages, 689. Urban water supply districts: Rateable property, valuations and revenue, (qn.) State Insurance Funds Bill-Introduction 2644. Running levels of irrigation and first reading, 62; second reading 75, channels, (qn.) 2645. Reticulated supply 209; Committee, 213; remaining stages, to Cape Paterson, (qn.) 2746. Bannock 214. burn area: Permanent water supply, State Insurance Offices-Percentage of (qn.) 2895. motor car third-party insurance under State Savings Bank of Victoria-Extension written, (qn.) 314; profit for year of activities, 384, ( qn.) 971. Housing 1963-64, (qn.) 314. Competition with loans. 4505. private insurance offices, 384, (qn.) 971. State Superannuation Fund-Reserve units, State Library of Victoria-Increased alloca (qn.) 1117. Pension rates, (qn.) 2431. tion, 353. Shortage of funds, 4498. Medical and hospital treatment, ( qn.) Staff shortage, 4498. Private donations, 2431. Contributions, refunds and 4499. investments, (qn.) 3362. Reports of State Rivers and Water Supply Commis State Superannuation Board, (qn.) 3362. sion- Statistics-Average wages, (qn.) 2625. Administration-Cost of removing flood Population increase, (qn.) 2625. Student gates at Tooradin, (qn.) 109. Cost of population, ( qn.) 2625. Income tax levee bank at Sawtell's Inlet, ( qn.) 109. reimbursement formula, (qn.) 2625. Need for flood mitigation work at junc tion of Goulbum and Murray rivers, 432. Statute Law Revision Committee-Assembly Ex gratia payments to landowners near members appointed, 57. Reports pre Mount Eliza reservoir, 977. Acquisition sented: Use of shot-guns, Ill; Evidence of dam site at Neerim, (qn.) 3286. Act, 189; Public Lands and Works Bill, LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (109)

Statute Law Revision Committee-continued. Stock Foods (Amendment) Bill-Received 828; Local Government Act 1958, 2568; from Council and first reading, 2010; Transfer of Land (Removal of Caveats) second reading, 2115, 2486; Committee Bill, 2583; Vagrancy Bill, 3280; coronial and remaining stages, 2487. inquiries and committal proceedings, 4473. Stokes, Mr. R. N. (Evelyn). Budget for Year 1964-65, 540. Stephen, Mr. W. F. (Ballaarat South). Bush Fires-Ministerial statement, 3209 Agriculture, Department of-Seed testing Commonwealth Pay-roll Tax-Payments, laboratories, 3565. 543. Ballarat-Establishment of industries, 732. Immigration-Migrant intake, 543. Begonia festival, 733. Labour and Industry (Long Service Leave) Ballarat School of Mines-History, 732. Bill, 1793. Country Roads Board-High standard of La Trobe University Bill, 988. roads in country areas, 734. Municipalities-Establishment of Shire of Crimes (Illegal Use of Motor Cars) Bill, Diamond Valley, 541. Grant to Shire 3836. of Eltham for pre-school centre, 541. Decentralization-Freedom of transport, 733. Establishment of industries in Police Department-Police stations at country centres, 734. Lower Plenty and Montmorency, 2432. Education Department-Sewering of Public Accounts-Surpluses and deficits, country schools, 733 541. Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, Railway Department-Increased freights 731. and fares, 542. Rates of pay of trades Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1336. men, 542. Lilydale-Warburton service, Railway Department-Cartage of grass 1716, 2134. Duplication of line between hay to New South Wales, 3417. Macleod and Greensborough, 4501. In vestigation of rail transport, 4502. State Electricity Commission-Uniform Building of lines by Japanese engineers tariffs, 732. and contractors, 4503. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis sion--Country town water supplies, 732. Stamps Bill, 1869. University Education-Claims of Ballarat State Electricity Commission-Uniform for third university, 732. tariffs, 540. Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4477. Supply, 4500. Uniform Taxation-System, 543. Workers Compensation (Amendment) Bill, 3514. Stirling, Mr. ff. V. (Swan Hill). Altona Railway Extension Bill, 2910. Rulings and Statements as Acting Chair Education-Availability of Martin report, man- 3227. Debate-Relevancy of remarks, 340, 351, Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 354, 391, 3083, 3552. Use of expressions 3870. objected to, 344, 349, 568, 579, 3889. Olympic Flag-pole-Preservation and Member to address the Chair, 353, 3547. identification, 4155. Interjections, 569, 570, 571, 572, 578, Railway Department - Dismantling of 4012. Suspension of sitting for supper, Kooloonong-West Narrung line, 3028. 572. Member referring to private busi State Rivers and Water Supply Commis ness dealings with Government, 573. sion-Use of Pyramid creek as irriga Member not to make second-reading tion water carrier, 4416. speech in Committee, 3085. Method of Tomato Processing Industry (Uniform dealing with amendments, 3883. Re Agreement) Bill, 2328. ference to debates in another place, Water Bill, 1606. 4571. (110) INDEX.

Stoneham, Mr. C. P. (Midlands). Stoneham, Mr. C. P.-continued. Aborigines - Representations from Estimates for Year 1964-65, 2344, 2436, Australian Council of Churches re 2449, 2455, 2457. Supplementary Esti rights to land, 2677. Petition re mates for 1963-64, 976. Supplementary administration, 2746. Estimates for Year 1964-65, 3967, 4546. Aborigines (Amendment) Bill, 3654, 3706. Farm Produce Merchants and Commis 3707. sion Agents Bill, 3019. Aborigines Welfare Board - Establish Ferguson, A. J., Memorial Appeal ment of settlements, 2890. Inspection Government grant, 979. of Lake Tyers Aboriginal Station, 2890. Forests (Amendment) Bill, 2199. Agricultural Colleges Bill, 673. Forests Commission-Proposed increased Auditor-General - Overseas visit, 2345, royalties, 317, 323. Extraction of 2436. Paper on governmental audit timber from Errinundra plateau, 3029. ing, 2345, 2436. Free Library Service Board-Provision Basic Wage-Effects of £1 increase. 321. for Commonwealth Government per Bendigo Land (Special Grant) Bill, 3380. sonnel, 4490. Bread Industry-Week-end baking, 740, Fuel Oil-Consumption, and prices paid 977. by Government authorities, 359, 736. Budget for Year 1964-65, 316. Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, Bush Fires-Ministerial statement, 2602, 734. 2687, 3159. Destruction of livestock, Grain Elevators Board-Composition and 3026. administration, 2644. Business of the House--Order of business, Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 373, 405, 2939, 3417, 3971, 3977. 3869. Chairman of Committees-Election of Mr. Grievance Day-Suspension of Standing Rafferty, 35. Order, 976. Civil Aviation - Correspondence with Hospitals - Proposed increased charges, Prime Minister re control of intra 317. state routes, 104. Housing Commission - Construction and Civil Defence and State Disaster Plan allocation of houses at Seymour, 2646. ning-Organization and expenditure, Juries (Women Jurors) Bill, 1521. 1958. Kings Bridge-Restoration, 41, 324. Ex Constitution Act Amendment (Res- gratia payments by contractors for ponsible Ministers) Bill, The, 36. repairs, 825. Consumers Protection Bill, 1170, 1199, Labour and Industry Act-Long service 1206, 1413, 1414, 1424, 2234, 2569, leave of Government employees, 1119. 2573, 2577. Lands Department - Proposed increased Country Fire Authority-Appointment charges, 317, 323. and salary of full-time chairman, 4091. Librarian, The - Death of Mr. F. J. Country Fire Authority Bill, 3397. Perry, 2732. Death-Sir Albert Eli Lind, M.L.A., 22. Mallacoota National Park-Departmental The Hon. E. J. Hogan, 59. file on excision of area, 513. Debate - Withdrawal of statement Marketing of Primary Products (Egg objected to, 3503. Marketing) Bill, 4627. Decentralization-Effect of increased rail Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramwayf; freights, 324. Board-Increased fares, 317. Members - Parliamentary service of Sir Decentralization Advisory Committee Herbert Hyland, 1984. Bill, The, 1698, 2090, 2095. Mildura Irrigation and Water Trusts Education Department - Seymour High (Amendment) Bill, 3156. School, 107. Castlemaine High School, Monash University-Dismissal of cleaners, 107. 78. Quota system, 2627. Enrolment of Electoral - South-Eastern Province by studentship holders, 2627. election, 893. Motor Car (Amendment) Bill (No. 2), Electoral Districts and Provinces Bill, 3564. 3485, 3583, 3979. Mount Eliza Service Reservoir-Ex gratia Equal Pay for the Sexes, 4489. payments to landowners, 977. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (111)

Stoneham, Mr. C. P.-continued. Stoneham, Mr. C. P.-continued. Opposition, The-Appointment of Leader Sessional Period, Close of-Christmas and Deputy Leader, 21. felicitations, 2580. Parliamentary Salaries Pensions and Shell Pipelines Bill, 2316, 2324. Superannuation Bill, 2449. Social Welfare-Social studies course at Personal Explanation-Statement in de Monash University to overcome bate, 750. Newspaper report, 1819. shortage of social workers, 2683. Petition - Aborigines affairs administra Soil Conservation (Water Resources) tion, 2746. Bill, 3386, 3395. Points of Order-Statements in debate, Speaker-Election, 19. 748, 750, 874, 2233, 2322, 2572, 4017. Stamp Duty-Proposed increases, 317. Relevancy of adjournment motion, 829. State Disaster Plan-Implementation and Relevancy of remarks, 840, 1183, 4630, procedure, 2680. 4633. Speaker's ruling, 2570. Order of State Electricity Commission-Royalty on business, 3485. Order of speakers in brown coal, 317, 322. Increased Committee, 4331. charges, 317, 321. Charges to Alcoa, Police Department - Investigation of 322, 736. Charges to Swift Australian threats to broadcaster, 742. Comments Company (Proprietary) Limited, 736. by Mr. Justice Sholl, 873. State Electricity Commission ( Contribu Portland Harbor Trust (Amendment) Bill, tions) Bill, 2130. 2912. State Forests Loan Application Bill, 683. Portland Harbor Trust (Borrowing State Rivers and Water Supply Commis Powers) Bill, 676. sion - Running levels of irrigation Primary Production-New South Wales channels, 2645. legislation re standards of quality, Superannuation - Representations from packaging and marketing, 2791. Retired State Employees' Association Public Lands and Works Bill, 1514, 1519, for increase in unit value, 1404. 1520. Supply, 41, 893, 4486. Public Service Board-Application by Taxation - Commonwealth Government Hospital Employees Union for staff grants, 319. Proposed State income employed in mental institutions, 2344. tax, 321, 325, 736, 893. Public Works Department-Contract for Television-Repairs to sets, 4486. science block at Seymour High School, Tomato Processing Industry (Uniform 107. Site and tenders for Castlemaine Agreement) Bill, 2328. High School, 107. Uniform Taxation-Revision of formula, Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1222, 976. 1232. Universities-Quota system, 2627. Enrol Railway Department-Derailments, 108, ment of studentship holders at Mel 828, 830, 834, 2458. Increased fares bourne and Monash universities, 2627. and freights, 317, 324. Special report University of Melbourne - Compliance on condition of railways, 325. Charter with section 33 of University Act, 2627. rates for train hire, 1498. Closure of Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill, 2584. Lilydale-Warburton line, 2457. Con Victorian Bands League - Government templated closing of Healesville line, grant, 2449. 2457, 3482. Spencer-street station, Victorian Inland Meat Authority- 2458. Negotiations with Swift Australian Railway Loan Application Bill, 1125. Company (Proprietary) Limited, 735, Road Accidents-Suggested research by 2455. insurance companies, 43. Victorian Inland Meat Authority (Amend- Roads and Bridges-Funds for restora ment) Bill, 2750. tion of bush fire damage, 2971. Water Bill, 1598. Roads (Special Projects) Bill, 4101, 4153, 4332, 4340. Water (Recreational Areas) Bill, 1997. Royal Commonwealth Society-Suggested Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 1440. Government grant, 2449. Workers Compensation (Amendment) Senate Vacancy-Joint sitting of both Bill, 3499, 3502, 3504, 3514, 4760. Houses, 2489, 2490. (112) INDEX.

Stratum Titles-Requirements of War Ser Supply, Committee of-Suspension of vice Homes Division, (qn.) 3145. Standing Order No. 273A, 38. Appointed, Subordinate Legislation (Amendment) Bill 38. Votes on Account, 38, 860, 893, -Introduction and first reading, 3368; 3287, 4485. Changes in schedule, 3289, second reading, 3415, 3795; remaining 4485. stages, 3800. Amendment by Council Surf Boards-Control, (qn.) 2976. dealt with, 4154. Subordinate Legislation Committee-- Sutton, Mr. P. K. (Albert Park). Assembly members appointed, 57. Re Agent-General-Functions and activities, ports presented: Cranes Regulations 46. Publicity material, 4499. Appoint 1964, 2301; Labour and Industry (Ex ment to staff of industrial affairs plosive-powered Tools Regulations, officer, 4500. 3147. (See also "Constitution Act Basic Wage--£1 increase, 351. Amendment (Subordinate Legislation Budget for Year 1964-65, 350. Committee) Bill, The.") Consumers Protection Bill, 1177, 1425. Education - Proposed conferring of degrees by technical colleges, 750. Suggett, Mr. R. ff. (Moorabbin). Benefits, 751. Resolution of Liberal Consumers Protection Bill, 1178. Party State council, 4496. Electoral - Placing names of candidates Education Department - Additional on ballot-paper in alphabetical order, allocation, 352. School building pro 2464. Witnessing of absentee votes, gramme, 4496. School libraries, 4497. 2464. Payment of postage on postal Diploma of Catering and Hotel votes, 2464. Administration course, 4497. Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, Education (School Committees) Bill, 2463. 2102. Estimates for Year 1964-65, 2438. Income Tax-Collection fee, 784. General Sessions (Pensions of Chair Melbourne Home and Hospital for the men) Bill, 215. Aged, 2465. Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, Mental Health Authority-Work of Royal 750. Park psychiatric hospital, 2465. Justices (Registration) Bill, 3043, 3057. Municipalities-Amount of deposit by candidates at elections, 2464. La Trobe Library-Shortage of staff, 4499. Petrol Tax - Reimbursements by Com La Trobe University Bill, 985. monwealth, 2467. Librarian, The-Death of Mr. F. J. Perry, Point of Order-Statement in debate, 2733. 344. Library Services of Victoria-Report of Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1247. Board of Inquiry, 60, 61, 2438. State Electricity Commission-Tariff con Licensing (Dining Permits) Bill, 2210. cession for youth clubs, 2465. Local Government (St. Kilda and Elwood State Finances-Need for Commonwealth Land Reclamation) Bill, 714. assistance, 2466. Point of Order--Order of speakers, 4124. Uniform Taxation-System, 2467. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1246. Social Welfare (Cadetships) Bill, 2670. South Melbourne (Unimproved Rating Superannuation Act-Increase in unit value, Poll), 445. (qn.) 1404. State Library-Increased allocation, 353. Superannuation (Time for Election) Bill Shortage of funds, 4498. Shortage of Introduction and first reading, 1767; staff, 4498. Private donations, 4499. second reading, 1859, 1970; remaining Supply, 46, 4496. stages, 1971. Taxation-State income tax, 351. Superphosphate-Deliveries to farmers, Teachers Tribunal--Claim for increased. 2603, 2604, (qn.) 3483. salaries, 4496. LEGISI.ATIVE ASSEMBLY. (113)

Sutton, Mr. P. K.-continued. Taxation-continued. Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4208, Stamp Duty-Proposed increases, 85, 317, 4471, 4474, 4480, 4482, 4485. 334, 380, 396, 427, 534. Collections Victoria Promotion Committee-Publica on marketable securities, ( qn.) 243. tions, 4500. Compulsory receipts, 380. Transfer fee on shares, 447. Swine (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and State Taxation-Level of, 31. Fields, 84. first reading, 2584; second reading 2594, Reintroduction of State income tax, 87. 2705; appropriation resolution, 2707; 123, 321, 325, 346, 350, 351, 355, 380. Committee and remaining stages, 2708. 396, 427, 436, 449, 457, 472, 527, 538. Swine Compensation Bill-Appropriation 540, 544, 570, 575, 577, 579, 593, 595, resolution, 1311; introduction and first 601, 720, 738, 744, 812, 893; collection reading, 1311; second reading, 1412, fee, (qn.) 784. Total per head of 1631; Committee, 1634; remaining population between 1959-60 and 1964- stages, 1635. 65, (qn.) 101. Comparison of State taxation levels, 441, 551. Tax on adver Swine Compensation Fund-Credits, debits tising, 448. Indirect taxation, 448. and maximum payments, (qn.) 1167. Revenue from gambling, 456. Uniform Taxation-Reimbursements to T. Victoria, (qn.) 101, 331, 337, 340, 376, Tanner, Mr. E. S. (Ripponlea). 447, 539, 570, 585, 744, 912. System, Traffic Commission-Suggested traffic 123, 347, 436, 453, 543, 602, 924, 2467. lights at corner of Orrong and Bala Formula, (qn.) 313, 348, 603, 896, 976, clava roads, Caulfield, 4765. 978, 979, 981, (qn.) 2625. Agreement Ruling and Statements as Acting Chair with States, 383. man- (See also "Commonwealth Government.") Debate-Relevancy of remarks, 1241, 1991, 4333. Minister speaking in general terms on clause 2, 1991. Use of ex Taylor, Mr. A. W. (Balwyn). pressions objected to, 1991. Order of Committee of Public Accounts-Reports speakers in Committee, 4331. Re presented: Melbourne Harbor Trust Act ference in Supply debate to matter 1958, 369; derailments on Victorian requiring legislation, 4490. railways system, 2301.

Tattersall Consultations (Jackpot Consul tations) Bill-Introduction and first Teachers Tribunal-Report of chairman on reading, 1767; second reading, 1860, overseas trip, (qn.) 182. Claim for in 1971; remaining stages, 1971. creased salaries, 4496. faxation- Teaching Service (Amendment) Bill-Re Commonwealth Income Taxation-Exemp ceived from Council and first reading, tions on gifts to technical colleges, 3711; second reading, 3792, 4590; Com (qn.) 4408. mittee, 4591; remaining stages, 4592. Commonwealth Pay-roll Tax-Payment by Government authorities, (qn.) 243, 543, Television Sets-Activities of maintenance 924. Validity, 382, 447. firms, 3025, 4155, 4178. Commonwealth Petrol and Diesel Oil Tax Theatres (Sunday Films) Bill-Introduction -Suggested further tax, 822. Collec and first reading, 1767; second reading, tions and reimbursements to States, 1769, 2196; Committee and remaining 823, 925, (qn.) 1404, 2467. stages, 2199. Land Tax-Basis of valuation, 386. Con Tomato Processing Industry (Uniform cessions, 428. Agreement) Bill-Introduction and first (S~e also "Land Tax (Rates and Exemp .reading, 1768; sec~nd reading, 1882, tions) Bill.") 2328; Committee and remaining stages, Probate Duty-Revenue, 428. 2330. 5372'6.5.-S (114) INDEX.

Totalizator Agency Board-Government Transport Regulation Board-Collapse of share of profits, 397. Revenue from off concrete bay at new building, 343, course betting, (qn.) 510. Agencies, (qns.) 366, 422. Taxis and hire-cars: (qn.) 510; in Fitzroy, (qn.) 2629. Pay Metropolitan zones, (qn.) 367; licences, ments: To Hospitals and Charities (qn.) 367; fares, (qn.) 367. Cartage of Fund, (qn.) 510; to metropolitan and electric light poles, 458. Issue of dis country racing clubs, (qn.) 510. Em cretionary licences to decentralized ployment of managers, ( qn.) 648. industries, ( qn.) 701. Licensing, inspec Revenue and dividends at Bendigo tion and insurance of commercial meeting, (qn.) 1583. Payment of vehicles for carriage of passengers, dividends, (qn.) 2432. Profit, (qn.) ( qn.) 1766. Inspection staff, ( qn.) 2629. Distribution of net profit, (qn.) 4415. Check points, (qn.) 4415. Co 2629. Inspectors, (qn.) 2629. (See operation with Housing Commission also "Racing (Amendment) Bill.") and Railway Department, 4506.

Town and Country Planning-Files re pro posed ring road through East Mel Trethewey, Mr. R. H. (Bendigo). bourne and Jolimont, (qn.) 185. Agriculture, Department of-Need for Traffic Commission-Congestion in Heidel research station to serve Bendigo district, 400. berg-road, 359, 405, 406. Parking in Bendigo Land (Special Grant) Bill, 3380. Nepean Highway, Frankston, 908. Decentralization - Establishment of Clearways: Locations, policing and country industries, 399. Government subsidies, (qn.) 2736. Egg and Egg Pulp Marketing Board Pedestrian crossing at corner of Bourke Bendigo plant, 4282. and Spring streets, 2783, 2784. Situa Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, tion in Sturt-street, Ballarat, 3910. 399. Construction of over-passes at school Marketing of Primary Products (Egg crossings, 4022, 4025. Suggested traffic Marketing) Bill, 4628. lights at comer of Orrong and Bala Mines Department-Mining sites in Ben clava roads, 4765. digo: Reclamation programme, 400. Traffic Regulation-Road accidents: Con Motor Car (Hours of Driving) Bill, 2218. tribution by insurance companies to State Rivers and Water Supply Commis sion-Availability of water for irriga research, 43; incidence, 725; fatalities tion, 400. and injuries, (qns.) 1297, 2627, 2972; Water (Recreational Areas) Bill, 2000. preventive measures, (qns.) 1297, 1582. Position in metropolitan area, 394. Speed limits, ( qn.) 784. Penalty for Trewin, Mr. T. C. (Benalla). breaches of regulations, ( qn.) 784. Agricultural Colleges Bill, 674. Hazard created by newsboys, 824. Agricultural Education (Continuation) Accidents on Western Highway, Sun Bill, 3590. shine, (qn.) 826; prosecutions for Anzac Day-Concessional rail fares for speeding, (qn.) 826. Controlling autho ex-servicemen attending reunion func rities· and cost, ( qn.) 2433. Use of tions, 2836. amphometer, 2444, 2447. Benalla Technical School-Tenders for (See also " Police Department-Traffic works, 973. Regulation.") Budget for Year 1964-65, 598. Bush Fires-Ministerial statement, 3218. ·Transfer of Land (Removal of Caveats) Country ·Fire Authority (Borrowing Bill-Introduction and first reading, Powers) Bill, 283. 1768; second reading, 1774, 2805; re Country Roads (Amendment) Bill, 691, ferred to Statute Law Revision Com 694. mittee for examination and report, Country Roads Board-Condition of· high 1775. Committee and remaining stages, ways, 600. Restoration of bridges and 2806. culverts . in Longwood area, 3565. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (115)

Trewin, Mr. T. C.-continued. Trezise, Mr. N. B. (Geelong West). Crimes (Illegal Use of Motor Cars) Bill, Barwon Regional Committee-Members, 3837. 2889. Powers, 2889. Functions, 2889. Glenroy to Tullamarine Railway Construc Expenses, 2889. tion Bill, 3905. Basic Wage-Increase, 588. Grain Elevators Board-Interest and sink Budget for Year 1964-65, 588. ing fund, 246. Capital works, 246. Clean Air Committee-Discharge of smoke and fumes at Geelong locomotive Reconstitution, 247. depot, 369, 512, 591. Investigations in Grain Elevators (Borrowing) Bill, 273. Geelong area, 3365. Assistance to Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill, municipalities, 4343. 3875. Decentralization-Establishment of in Health (Household Insecticides) Bill, 4650. dustries in country districts, 116. Local Government (Amendment) Bill, Decimal Currency-Teaching in schools, 4551. 1166. Maintenance Bill, 4638. Education-Need for public inquiry, 118. Education Department-Programme for Marketing of Primary Products (Egg next three years, 117. Quarry opera Marketing) Bill, 4629. tions adjacent to Fyansford State Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways School, 2442. Proposed State school at Board-Increased fares, 599. Western Heigths, 2442. Proposed Motor Car (Fines and Drivers' Licence Western Heights Primary School, 3284. Fees) Bill, 1436. Estimates for Year 1964-65, 2442. National Parks (Amendment) Bill (No. 2), Geelong-Development and growth, 590. 4205. Geelong (Kardinia Park) Land Bill, 3590. Pesticides Bill, 1622, 1631. Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, 116. Portland Harbor Trust (Amendment) Bill, Health Act-Prosecutions by South 2913. Barwon Shire Council, 1636. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1355. Hospitals-Increased charges, 589 Railway Department-Appointment of Housing Commission-Provision of re primary producer as Commissioner, 246. creational areas on estates, 116. Increased freights and fares, 599. Purchase of homes, 973. Homes for Railway Loan Application Bill, 1154. rental, 973, 1588, 1767. Houses in Railways (Funds) Bill, 1815. Geelong, 1168, 1588. Geelong waiting list, 1767. Housing in Geelong of em Rural Finance and Settlement Commission ployees of Alcoa of Australia Pty. Ltd., Bill, 4599. 2687, 2899. Sewerage Districts Bill, 866. Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Soil Conservation (Water Resources) Bill, Board-Increased fares, 589. 3388, 3396. Police Department-Suspensions, 4279. State Insurance Funds Bill, 212. Princes Bridge, Newtown-Construction, Stock Foods (Amendment) Bill, 2486. 973. Estimates of cost, 973. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1313. Swine (Amendment) Bill, 2707. Railway Department-Geelong locomo Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill (No. 2), tive depot, 369, 512, 591. Increased 4304. fares and freights, 589. Geelong-Mel Valuation of Land (Amendment) Bill, bourne service: Carriages, 590; fare 4592. anomalies, 590; passenger time-tables, Valuation of Land (Valuations) Bill, 2575, 1307, 1659; duplication of line, 4282. 2576. Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 4619. Veterinary Surgeons (Amendment) Bill, Road Transport-Cartage of clinker 4594, 4596. through Geelong, 1303. Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4210. State Electricity Commission-Pensioner Water (Recreational Areas) Bill, 1998. concession rates for briquettes and Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 1447. electricity, 1766, 2892. Dismissal of employees at Geelong, 2740, 2783. (116) INDEX.

Trezise, Mr. N. B.-continued. Turnbull, Mr. Campbell-continued. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis Education Department-Establishment of sion-Bellarine Peninsula water supply, new high school in Brunswick, 392, 2895. Permanent water supply to Ban 3027. Moreland High School buildings nockburn area, 2895. and site, 1405. Students and class Stock Foods (Amendment) Bill, 2486. rooms at Brunswick High School, 3027. University Education-Location of third Gaols-Prisoners, 647 Inprisonment for university, 117. non-payment of debts, 647. Workers Compensation (Amendment) General Sessions (Pensions of Chairmen) Bill, 3513. Bill, 214. Governor's Speech-Address-in-Reply, 724. Hospitals-Employees living out and Trotting Control Board-Revenue from races at Royal Agricultural Show- married, 3028. Hospital Nurses Wages grounds, ( qn.) 700. Board, 3028. Living-out payment for nurses, 3028. Trustee Companies (Affidavits) Bill-Re Industries-Overseas investments, 393. ceived from Council and first reading, Juries (Women Jurors) Bill, 1523. 1542; second reading, 1616, 1681; re Justices (Complaints and Summonses) maining stages, 1682. Bill, 794, 801. Tuberculosis-(See "Department of Health Justices (Registration) Bill, 3054. -Tuberculosis," and "Health (Tuber Land Tax (Rates and Exemptions) Bill, culosis Arrangement) Bill.") 1511. Law Department-Cases awaiting trial, 364, 2972. Turnbull, Mr. Campbell (Brunswick West). Legal Aid (Costs) Bill, 3801. Aborigines (Amendment) Bill, 3693. Maintenance Bill, 4635. Administration and Probate (Small Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Estates) Bill, 869, 872, 873, 1218, 1221, Works-Compensation for acquisition 1222. of properties in Brunswick and Coburg, Agricultural Education (Continuation) 2974. Bill, 3588. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Appeal Costs Fund (Amendment) Bill, Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 3019. 2804. Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Arbitration Commission-Functioning, 726, Board-Increased fares, 395. Staff at 730. Brunswick depot, 2976. Recruitment of Basic Wage-Restoration of cost-of-living staff from Great Britain, 2976. adjustments, 725. Metropolitan Fire Brigades (Long Service Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill, · Leave) Bill, 278. 2009. Mines (Exploration Licences) Bill, 2129. Budget for Year 1964-65, 391. Municipalities-Net annual values, 3145. ' Bush Fires-Ministerial statement, 3197. Points of Order-Attempts to prevent Cadet Surveyors Bill, 2302. member being heard, 572. Relevancy Children's Court (Admission to Hearings) of remarks, 1203, 1224, 2571, 2572, 3053, Bill, 3381. 4557, 4558. Tabling of document. Companies-Takeovers, 394. Capital in quoted from, 3687. creases, 397. Report on Stanhill Deve Police Department-Strength of Force, lopment Finance Limited and other 725. Highway patrols, 2972. Adequacy companies, 397, 727. Salaries of of Force, 2996. directors, 727. Stabilization of com Police Offences (Betting Information) Bill, pany share prices, 2603. 1677, 1681. Consumers Protection Bill, 1204, 1413, Property Law (Loans to Minors) Bill., 1416. 3384. Country Fire Authority (Borrowing Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1237. Powers) Bill, 282. Racing (Amendment) Bill, 2073, 2574. Crimes (Parole) Bill, 3793. Railway Department-Underground rail- Deaths-The Hon. W. J. Mibus, 724. The way, 395. Increased fares and freights, Hon. Ian Macfarlan, 724. 395. Cleanliness of carriages, 3711. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (117)

Turnbull, Mr. Campbell-continued. Universities-continued. Reid Murray Group-Directors' fees and Shortages, 456, (qn.) 698; appointment travelling expenses, 364, 423. Anti and salaries, (qns.) 699, 1583, 2626; cipated losses, 364, 423. retrospective payment of increases, Road Accidents-Incidence, 725, 2972. 3966. Financial allocation, 580, (qn.) Roads (Special Projects) Bill, 4144, 4336. 698. Planning of fourth university, Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 4603, 598, (qn.) 699. Matriculation examina 4627. tions, (qns.) 699, 1583. Admission of Sale of Land Bill, 3833. students, (qns.) 699, 1583, 2627, 2681; Stamp Duty-Collections on marketable married women and Asians, ( qn.) 2739. securities, 243. Increases, 396. Degrees and diplomas, (qns.) 699, 1583. Stamps Bill, 1861, 1873, 1875, 1877, 1878, Government grants to residential col 1879, 1881, 2344. leges, (qn.) 972. Raising of regional Stamps Bill (No. 2), 4098, 4099, 4100. technical colleges to university standard, Stanhill Development Finance Limited 2478. Number of students, (qn.) 2625. Directors' fees and travelling expenses, Quotas, (qn.) 2627. Secondary teach 364, 423. Anticipated losses, 364, 423. ing studentships, ( qn.) 2627. Retention Report, 397. in Victoria of Dr. Knopfelmacher, 4763, State Development, 392. 4765. Tattersall Consultations (Jackpot Consul (See also "La Trobe University Bill," tations) Bill, 1971. " Monash University " and " Victoria Taxation-Reintroduction of State income tax, 396. Institute of Colleges Bill.") Television Sets-Activities of maintenance University of Melbourne-Co-operation firm, 3025, 4179. with Government, 49, 52. Library Totalizator Agency Board-Government's requirements, 50, 52. Need for finance, share of profits, 397. 55, 125, 579. Academic policy, 125. Traffic Regulation-Conditions in metro Staff situation, 125. Membership of politan area, 394. council, 392. Construction works, University of Melbourne-Membership of ( qn.) 698. Science facilities at Secon council, 392. School of Education dary Teachers' College, ( qns.) 1118, courses, 1303. 2638. Use of physics laboratory by Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill (No. 2), Secondary Teachers' College, ( qn.) 4299, 4321. 1303. Degree course at School of Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4483. Education, ( qn.) 1303. Dental Faculty: Wills (Minors') Bill, 2687, 2691. Admissions and graduations, (qn.) Workers Compensation (Amendment) 1587. Compliance with University Act, Bill, 3506, 3518. (qn.) 2627. Admission standards, (qn.) Workers Compensation Board-Cases 2891. awaiting determination, 364. Rulings and Statements as Acting Chair Ustashi. (See "Croatian Liberation Move man- ment.") Debate-Scope of debate in Committee of Supply, 546, 547. Interjections, 544. v. Reference to matters concerning future legislation, 1326. Vagrancy Bill-Introduction and first read ing, 2583; second reading, 2598, 3592. u. Valuation of Land (Amendment) Bill Unilever (Australia) Pty. Ltd.-Staff re Received from Council and first reading, trenchments, (qn.) 2686. 4592. Universities-1964-65 Budget statement, 90. Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill (No. 1) Location of third university, 117, 223; Notice of motion for leave to bring in, claims of Ballarat, 732. Report of 60; introduction and first reading, 112; Martin inquiry into tertiary education, second reading, 1893. Order of Day for (qn.) 365, (qn.) 1166, (qn.) 2637, 3227; resumption of debate read and dis Ministerial statement, 2902. Staff: charged, 2584. (118) INDEX •.

Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill (No. 2) Water (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and Introduction and first reading, 2584; first reading, 3229; second reading, 3281, second reading, 2652, 4283; Committee, 3599; appropriation resolution, 3606; 4312; remaining stages, 4326. Council Committee, 3606; remaining stages, amendments dealt with, 4572. 3608. Valuation of Land (Valuations) Bill-Re Water Authorities Accident Insurance Bill ceived from Council and first reading, -Introduction and first reading, 2647; 2356; second reading, 2433, 2574; Com second reading, 2651, 2806; remaining mittee, 2576, 2578; remaining stages, stages, 2808. 2578. Water Bill-Introduction and first reading, Valuer-General's Office-Land valuations, 518; second reading, 704, 1598; Com (qn.) 1119; rural and primacy produc mittee, 1609'; third reading, 1611. Coun tion lands, (qn.) 1120. Increase in net cil amendments dealt with, 2304. annual values, (qn.) 2431. Cost, (qn.) Water (Recreational Areas) Bill-Introduc 2785. tion and first reading, 1590; second Venereal Disease. (See "Department of reading, 1783, 1997; Committee, 2002; Health-Venereal Disease.") remaining stages, 2003. Vermin and Noxious Weeds Destruction Water Resources of Victoria-Underground Board-Bonuses for destruction of water supplies, 33, 401. Statement by wild animals, ( qn.) 2743. British Water Resources Board on Veterinary Surgeons (Amendment) Bill nuclear desalination, ( qn.) 3286. Received from Council and first reading, Water Skis-Control, (qn.) 2976. 2782; second reading, 2802, 4592; Com Water Supply-Commonwealth grants, mittee, 4595; remaining stages, 4596. (qn.) 2686. Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill-Appro Water Supply Loan Application Bill-Ap priation resolution, 3368; introduction propriation resolution, 1075; introduc and first reading, 3368; second reading, tion and first reading, 1075; second 3646, 4208, 4419; Committee, 4468, 4473; reading, 1121, 1440; Committee and third reading, 4484. Council amend remaining stages, 1454. ment dealt with, 4746. Ways and Means, Committee of-Suspen Victorian Chamber of Manufactures sion of Standing Order No. 273A, 38. Survey of manufacturing industries, Appointed, 38. Resolutions agreed to, 435. 56, 926, 981, 2459, 4512, 4547. Victorian Dried Fruits Board-Constitution, Werribee Waterworks District (Abolition) meetings, members and allowances, Bill-Introduction and first reading, (qn.) 3363. 3228; second reading, 3280, 3378; re Victorian Inland Meat Authority-Swift maining stages, 3380. Australian Company (Pty.) Ltd.: Leas ing agreements, (qn.) 703, 2455; depart mental files, ( qn.) 703; negotiations Wheeler, Mr. K. H. (Essendon). with, 735. Budget for Year 1964-65, 388. Victorian Inland Meat Authority (Amend Consumers Protection Bill, 1203, 1204. ment) Bill-Appropriation resolution, Education-Expenditure, 388. 2647; introduction and first reading, Education Department-High school for 2647; second reading, 2649, 2750; Com Brunswick, 389. Supply and erection mittee and remaining stages, 2758. of portable class-rooms, 511. Over Victoria Promotion Committee-Report in crowding in secondaiy schools, 2345. journal, 435. Publications, 4500. Zoning for high school attendance,. 2345. Establishment of Strath Park w. High School, 2346. Fluoridation of Water Supplies-Estim-· Wage Earners-Salaries under £2,000, ated annual cost, 1406. (qn.) 3283. Glenroy to Tullamarine Railway Construc Walhalla-Preservation of cemetery, 806. tion Bill, 3902. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. {119)

Wheeler, Mr. K. H.-continued. Wheeler, Mr. K. H.-continued. Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, Rulings and Statements as Acting 2345. Speaker- Health, Department of-Inspection of Debate-Relevancy of remarks, 1150. meat for overseas consumption, 391. Interjections, 1193. Health (Tuberculosis Arrangement) Bill, 3383. Hospitals-Increases in number of beds Whiting, Mr. M. S. (Mildura). and staff, 389. Government grants to bush nursing hospitals, 389. Acquisition of Materials Bill, 1533, 1536. Justices (Registration) Bill, 3045. Agriculture, Department of-" Take-all " Kindergartens and Creches-Allocations, disease in north-west Victoria, 1215. 389. Budget for Year 1964-65, 526. Labour and Industry Act-Prosecutions Bush Fires-Offer of equipment by De- of shopkeepers in Brunswick and partment of Civil Aviation, 2735. Coburg, 1405. Chowilla Dam-Supply levels, 247. Land Tax (Rates and Exemptions) Bill, 1509. Closer Settlement (Regulations) Bill, 207. Local Government (Amendment) Bill, Decentralization Advisory Committee Bill, 2701, 4549, 4551, 4556, 4558. The, 1710. Marine Stores and Old Metals (Welfare Disposal of Uncollected Goods (Damaged and Community Organizations) Bill, Motor Cars) Bill, 680. 1674. Education-Free milk scheme, 3284. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Farm Produce Merchants and Commission Works-Moonee Ponds creek develop Agents Bill, 3841, 3884, 3885, 3888, 3890. ment, 512. Essendon reservoir, 2783. Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill, Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of 3877. Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 2927. Hospitals-Finance, 530. Milk Board-Price inquiry, and cost, 368, Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, 390. Statement by chair~an, 390. Re 3239. 3272, 3273, 3278, 3279. port on price determinations, 1964. La Trobe University Bill, 1016. Municipal Association (Accident Insur Legal Aid (Costs) Bill, 3802. ance) Bill, 1110. Marine Stores and Old Metals (Welfare Municipalities-Home-help services, 389. and <;::ommunity Organizations>' Bal, Points of Order-Relevancy of remarks, 1674. 1204, 4333. Statement in debate, 3383. Medical Graduates-Service as resident Member discussing business of the medical officers in public hospitals, 316. House, 4562. Mildura Irrigation and Water Trusts Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1347. (Amendment) Bill, 3157. Roads (Special Projects) Bill, 4129. Mildura (Rating on Unimproved Values) Speaker-Election, 18. Bill, 281. Theatres (Sunday Films) Bill, 2197. Motor Car (Amendment) Bill, 682. Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill (No. 2), Motor Vehicle Registration Plates 4300. Defects, 701. Water (Recreational Areas) Bill, 2001. North-West Mallee Settlers-Compensa Rulings and Statements as Acting Chair tion, 2791. man- Police Department-Investigation into Debate-Relevancy of remarks, 333, 336, alleged intimidation of, and extortion 394, 555, 1237, 2009, 3908. Interjections, from, fruit and vegetable producers, 396, 793, 1249, 3710. No debate on 4091. motion that progress be reported, 1027. Public Lands and Works Bill, 1517. Use of expressions objected to, 1227. Minister may decide whether or not to Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1330. answer question, 2009. Racing (Amendment) Bill, 2074. (120) INDEX.

Whiting, Mr. M. S.-continued. Wilcox, Mr. V. F.-continued. Railway Department-Melbourne-Mildura Game (Black Swans) Bill, 704, 711, 860. goods traffic, 185, 246, 528. Fruit Flyer General Sessions (Pensions of Chairmen) service, 185. Profits from rail freights, Bill, 63, 71, 215. 527. Increased freights and fares, 527. Government-Federal system or unifica Downgrading of stationmaster at Mil tion, 594. dura, 528. Facilities on Sunlight Health (Tuberculosis Arrangement) Bill, service, 529. Advertising, 529. 3001. Social Welfare Branch-Social workers, 511. Housing Commission-Re-housing of resi dents of slum reclamation areas, 2676. Social Welfare (Cadetships) Bill, 2669, 2674. Immigration-Victorian intake, 188. Bri Superphosphate-Deliveries to farms, tish and non-British migrants, 188. 3483. Juries (Women Jurors) Bill, 1526, 1528. Surveyors-Delays in investigations by Justices (Complaints and Summonses) district surveyors, 4092. Bill, 650, 669, 799, 801. Taxation-State income tax, 527. Justices (Indictable Offences) Bill, 27, 68. Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 1445. Justices (Registration) Bill, 2747, 2819, Rulings and Statements as Acting Chair- 3049, 3052, 3057. man- Landlord and Tenant Act-High Court Debate-Relevancy of remarks, 1202, decision on rent control, 2448. 1203. Law Department-Activities of private investigators, 2448. Legal Aid (Costs) Bill, 3802. Wilcox, Mr. V. F. (Camberwell). Legal Profession Practice (Amendment) Administration and Probate (Small Bill, 1768, 1992, 2335, 2337, 2338. Estates) Bill, 696, 712, 872, 1218, 1220, Licensing (Dining Permits) Bill, · 2072, 1222. 2113, 2211. Auditor-General-Overseas visit, 2437. Maintenance Bill, 4638, 4639. Governmental auditing, 2437. Maintenance (Reciprocating State) Bill, Budget for Year 1964-65, 592. 1617. Business of the House-Order of business, Marine Stores and Old Metals (Welfare 373. and Community Organizations) Bill, Children's Court (Admission to Hearings) Bill, 3001, 3033. 1590, 1615, 1675, 2226, 2228. Children's Court (Amendment) Bill, 356, Melbourne Sailors' Home Bill, 2072, 2231. 373. Metropolitan Fire Brigades (Long· Service Companies Act-Reports of inspectors: Leave) Bill, 62, 115. On Reid-Murray Holdings Ltd. and Motor Car (Amendment) Bill, 189, 193. Payne's Properties Pty. Ltd., 2979; on Motor Car (Carriers' Identification Marks) Albion Quarries Limited, 4546. Bill, 1590, 1635, 1677. Consumers Protection Bill, 651, 1194, Motor Car (Hours of Driving) Bill, 2226. 1205, 1413, 1422. Obscene Publications-Sale and prosecu Country Fire Authority (Borrowing tions, 4 765. Powers) Bill, 112, 115. Olympic Flag-pole - Preservation and Crimes (Amendment) Bill, 189, 789, 790, identification, 4155. 791, 1690, 1693. Personal Explanation-Statement in de Crimes (Illegal Use of Motor Cars) Bill, bate, 4752. 3030, 3369, 4154. Points of Order-:-ReJevancy of remarks, Disposal of Uncollected Goods (Damaged 919. Order of speakers, 1202. Instruc Motor Cars) Bill, 112, 201, 1635, 1636. tion to Committee, 1.789. Statement in Estate Agents Bill, 1410, i690. debate, 3979. Estimates for Year 1964-65, 2437, 2447. Police Department-Adequacy of Force, Fisheries and Game (Reduced Licence 2986. .Accos.ting of womep in St. Kildai Fees) Bill, 370, 372. area, 4765. · · ·· · Friendly Societies (Assignment of Con Property. Law. (Loans to· .Minors), Bill, tracts) Bill, 1768, 1775, 1979. 4154. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. (121)

Wilcox, Mr. V. F.-continued. Wilkes, Mr. F. N.-continued. Road Traffic-Use of devices to measure Education Department-Accommodation speeds of motor vehicles, 2447. for students at Helen-street State Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 4094, School, Northcote, 1118. 1964 edition 4626, 4627. of The Blue Book, 1258. Pass and Road Traffic Regulations-Sturt-street, failure rates at school examinations, Ballarat, 3910. 2681, 2682. Applications for primary Sale of Land Bill, 3002, 3295, 3830, 4564. teacher training, 2681. Special schools: Slum Reclamation-Rehousing of dis Number and location, 2682; enrolments, placed residents, 2676. waiting lists, and educational standards, Social Welfare ( Cadetships) Bill, 2584, 2682. Additions to Croxton Special 2597, 2671. School, 2739. Social Welfare (Trainees) Bill, 1635, 1668, Electoral Provinces and Districts Bill, 2484. 4014. Subordinate Legislation (Amendment) Estate Agents Bill, 1683. Bill, 4154. Gas and Fuel Corporation-Increased Supply, 921. charges, 436. Taxation-Reintroduction of State income Government Departments and Instru tax, 593. mentalities-Employment, 437, 3479. Television Sets-Activities of maintenance Use of contract labour in lieu of day firm, 4155, 4178. labour, 438. Supply, purchase and dis Traffic Commission-Suggested traffic posal of motor vehicles, 3141. Termina lights at comer of Orrong and Balaclava tion of services of employees, 3479. roads, Caulfield, 4765. Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, Transfer of Land (Removal of Caveats) 2473. Bill, 1768, 1774, 1775. Hospitals-Cost of beds in various States, Trustee Companies (Affidavits) Bill, 1542, 440. Availability of beds, 2977. Nursing 1616. staff, 2977. Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill, 1893, Housing Commission-Employment of 1899. artisans, 703. Dismissal of painters, Wills (Minors') Bill, 2584, 2595, 2690. 703, 786, 1588. Walker-street, North Workers Compensation (Amendment) cote, estate, 1309, 1409. Evictions and Bill, 2802, 2915, 2927, 3502, 3503, 3504, re-housing, 2979. Applications for 3532, 3536, 3542, 3545, 3563, 3564, 3834, tenancy, 2979. Purchase of units, 2979. 4573, 4575, 4576, 4577, 4590, 4747, 4761. Immigration-Victorian intake, 188. Bri tish and non-British migrants, 188. Wilkes, Mr. F. N. (Northcote). Institutional Staff Superannuation Fund Acquisition of Materials Bill, 1528, 1536. Advisory committee: Terms of refer Air Pollution-Measurements, 110. Areas ence, 3484; personnel, 3484; introduction affected, 110. Breaches of regulations, of proposals, 3484 110. Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, Basic Wage-Increase, 436. 3252. Budget for Year 1964-65, 433. Land Tax (Rates and Exemptions) Bill, Business of the House-Days of sitting, 1510. 1165. Order of business, 3978, 4216. Land Valuations-Increases, 1119. De Chamber .of Manufactures-Survey of termination of values for rural and manufacturing industries, 435. primary production lands, 1120. Appeals Clean Air Committee-Finance, 649. against valuations and rating, 4418. Clearways-Location, 2736. Policing, La Trobe University Bill, 1006. 2736. Subsidies to municipalities, 2736. Commonwealth Government-Withdrawal Local Government Department-Budget of special grant, 436. statement, 444. Consumers Protection Bill, 1198. Melbourne and . Metropolitan Board of Country Roads Board-Revenue from Works-Revenue, 2787. · motor registration fees, 3481. Melbourne and Metropolitan · Board of Darebin Creek Bridge-Construction, 1963. Works (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 2824. .S372'6.5.-6 (122), INDEX~

Wilkes, Mr. F. N~-continued. Wilkes, Mr. F; N.-continuecL Melbourne. and Metropolitan Tramways Roads-Acquisition. of road-making ma Board-Increased fares, 441. Value of terials, 647. Construction of portion of property, 442. Use of· motor vehicles Heidelberg-road, Northcote, 1659. Loca by inspectors, 649. Seating tax, 1407. tion of parking meters, and revenue, Staff, 4414. Curtailment of services, 2742. Pedestrian hazard at junction of 4414. Track-laying programme, 4414. Bourke and Spring streets, 2783. Members-Leave. of absence for Mr. Roads· ~Special Pr-0jects) Bill, 4114, 4341. Fennessy, 370. Road• Traffic-Infringements, 2474. Muni Metr-0politan Fire Brigades Board-Con cipal traffic officers, 2742. Parking tributions by municipalities, 2975. infringements detected, and revenue, Painting of hydrants, 2975. 2742. Metropolitan Tr-ansportation Committee Road. Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 4611. Metropolitan transport survey, 444, Rural Finance and Settlement Commission 1074. Expenditure, 1074. Pel'sons em Bill~ 4599. ployed, 1074. Sale of Land Bill, 3803, 4564. Mildura (Rating on Unimproved Values) State Electricity Commission--Purchase: Bill, 279. of electrical-' power from New· South. Monash University-Admissions, 2681. Wales, 183, 441. Hazelwood· power station, 183·. Increased charges, 436 • Motor Car (Hours of Driving) :em, 2219. 1 439. Effect of tariff increases on muni-· Municipalities-Funds, 184. Country cipal undertakings, 439: Uniform Roads Board allocations, 184, 1406. tariffs, 440. Take-over of Northcote Grants from Municipalities A$sist;in~e municipal electrical undertaking, 2297. Fund, 1305. Net annual values;. 2787. Municipal traffic officers, 2742. Re State Superannuation Fund;__Reserve venue from Metropolitan Improvement units, 1117. Contributions, pension Fund, 2787. Contributions to Metro refunds and investments, 3362. politan Fire Brigades Board 2975.. Statute Law Revision Committee-Reports National Parks (Amendment) Bill (No. 2}°, presented: Use of shot-guns, 111:; 4201, 4204. Evidence Act 1958, 189; Public Lands and Works Bill, 828; Local Government Point of Order-Statement in debate, 349. Act 1958, 2568; Transfer of Land Police Department-Statement by. Mr. (Removal of Caveats), Bill, 2583; Justice Sholl re injuries to prisoners in Vagrancy Bill, 3280; coronial inquirieu custody, 363. Services. of Dr. Macera, and committal proceedings, 4473. 363; Budget statement, 444. Strength Taxation-Reintroduction of State income of Force, 444. Traffic blitzes, 1764, tax, 436. Comparison· of State· taxation 2632. Booking of motorists, 1764, 2632. levels, 441. Use of. mechanical. dete~tion eqµipment for road traffic offences, 2633. Police Totalizator Agency Board-Managers, 648. employed on parking infringements, Transport Regulation Board-Zones, and 2633. Foot and mobile patrols,. 2634, number of taxis and hire cars in· metro 2476. Traffic and pedestrian control, politan areai 367. Taxi fares and 2634, 24·76. Adequacy of Force, 2991. licences,. 367. Inspection staff, 4415. Reconstruction, use and cost of old Check points, 4415. Dental Hospital· building, 3144. Uniform Taxation, 436. Public Transport-Comparison of fares in Universities-Matriculants accepted and different States, 440~ rejected· at· Melbourne .. and· ;Monash Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1239. universities, ?681. Railway Department-Mannmg of sta · . University. of. Melbourne-Admissions to" tions, 43S, 4414. Iricreased freights and and graduations from. dental. faculty, fares, 441. Additions to Spencer-street 1587. station, 1308. Fire· damage at; and re Valuation of Land (Appeals) Bill (No. 2), building of, Merri station, 1588, 4414. 2661., 4283,.4316, 43i8, 4319, 4322, 4324. Staff, 4414; Valuation.of· Land· (Valuations) Bill, 2435, Railway. Loan. Application. Bill •. 1137.-. 2575. LEGISLATIVE· ASSEMBLY.

Wilkes, Mr. F. N.--continued~ Wilton, Mr. J. T.--continued. Victoria Promotion Committee-Report in Glenroy to Tullamarine Railway Con journal, 435. struction Bill, 3374, 3895, 3908. Workers Compensation (Amendment) Governor-Appointment of Victorian, 815. Bill, 3506, 35.11. Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, 811. Wills- (Minors'). Bill-Introduction and first Housing Commission-Applications for reading, 2584; second reading 2595, tenancy, 566. Provision of land by 2687; Committee, 2690; remaining municipalities for elderly citizens' stages, 2692. accommodation, 567. Delay in main tenance work, 568, 816. Availability of Wilson's Promontory-Provision of elec homes for rental, 815. Number of tricity; (qn.) 3786. Erection of motel, homes constructed, 816. Reduction in (qn.) 3786. sale prices of homes, 817. Purchase lease system, 817. Sale of homes in Wilton, Mr. J. T.. (Broadmea.do:ws). Oxley-court, Broadmeadows, 3029. Basic Wage-Increase, 561. Labour and. Industry, Department of Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill, Report of chief inspector of boilers, 701, 2003, 2007: 1963. Number of boiler inspectors, 786. Boilers Inspection Branch-Reports of Land Inspection-Notification to Broad Chief Inspector, 701, 1963·. Salaries and meadows City Council, 4413. expenditure; 785. Number of boiler Land Settlement-Conditions, 566. inspectors, 786. Budget for year Level Crossing Accidents-Legal action 1964-65, 561. Inspection of steam against Victorian Railways Commis boilers and air and gas receivers, 1765. sioners, 11~6. Broadmeadows Planning. Scheme-Appeal, Motor Boats-Registration fees, 4277, 4279. 4409. Launching ramps, 4277, 4409. Motor Car (Hours of Driving) Bill, 2221. Budget for Year- 1964-65, 561. National Parks (Amendment) Bill (No. 2), Bush Fires-Ministerial statement, 3187. 4195. Grass fire in Lancefield district, 3227. Police Department-Patrolling of high Country Fire Authority Bill1 3402. ways, 813. Construction of Niddrie Country Roads Board-Dispute re road police station, 1404. Personnel and making at Keilor, 1028; 1306, 2070, patrols in Fawkner-Broadmeadows 2135. area, 2680. Fawkner police area, 3479. Debate-Withdrawal of statement ob Report on fire at Springfield, 4765. jected to, 564. Public Works Department - Oncost Education Department-Confidential cir charges 564, 2785, 2973. Cost of Archi cular re Commonwealth scholarships, tect's Branch, 2973. 365. Eawkner North· Primary. School; Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1341. 562, 813. Pupil-teacher ratio, 563. Railway Department-Construction and Junior scholarships,. 564. Over~rowding cost of Gowrie. station, 185, 813, 3962. in schools, 813. Accommodation at Subway at Broadmeadows station, 814. Keilor Heights Primary School, 1303. Cost of Glenroy-Tullamarine line, 3786. Broadmeadows Technical School, 2010, Railway Loan Application Bill, 1150. 3481. Facilities for science teaching at Roads (Special Projects) Bill, 4124, 4338. Secondary Teachers' College, 2638. Sewerage Districts Bill, 864, 867, 868, Alternative accommodation for Toolern 1504. Vale State School, 2674. Broadmeadows Shell Pipelines Bill, 2326. High School, 3320. Accommodation at Springfield Fire-Police report, 4765. Keon Park Technical School, 4411. Glenroy West State School, 4508. North State Electricity Commission-Farm con- Park State School, 4509. Travelling ex nexions, 366, 568. Self-help scheme, penses for students attending private 366. Increased charges, 561. schools, 4509. Supply, 4508. Electoral-Redistribution, 812. Swine (Amendment) Bill, 2705. Estate Agents Bill, 1688. Swine Compensation Bill, 1631, 1634. (124)

Wilton, Mr. J. T.-continued. Wiltshire, Mr. R. J.-continued. Taxation-Reintroduction of State income Taxation-Proposed State income tax. tax, 812. 346, 350. Uniform taxation system, 347. University of Melbourne-Science and Water Resources-Implementation of re physics facilities for Secondary port of State Development Committee, Teachers' College, 1118, 1303. Admis 401. sion standards, 2891. Rulings and Statements as Acting Chair·· Victoria Institute of Colleges Bill, 4456. man- Water (Amendment) Bill, 3604. Workers Compensation (Amendment) Bill, Debate-No debate on motion that pro 3510. gress be reported, 873. Member not to refer to proposed legislation during Supply debate, 903. Relevancy of Wiltshire, Mr. R. J. (Mulgrave). remarks, 908, 919, 920, 3053. Budget for Year 1964-65, 345. Debate-Withdrawal of statement ob· jected to, 349. Workers Compensation-Insurance pre Education Department-Completion of miums, (qn.) 3142; current rates, (qn.) new schools by commencement of a 3144. Claims, (qn.) 3143. Approved school year, 402. School construction, insurers, (qn.) 3143. Business handled 402. Off-street parking facilities at by State Accident Insurance Office. schools, 402. (qn.) 3143. Premiums and claims of Electoral Provinces and Districts Bill, certain companies, ( qn.) 3480. 3990. Workers Compensation (Amendment) Bill Estimates for Year 1964-65, 2444. -Introduction and first reading, 2802; Governor's Speech-Address-in-Reply, 401. second reading, 2915, 3301, 3486; appro Law Department-Compilation of list of priation resolution, 3532; Committee. justices of the peace, 404. 3532; third reading, 3564. Motion that Marine Stores and Old Metals (Welfare Bill be treated as an urgent Bill, 3502. and Community Organizations) Bill, Motion fixing time limits for debate. 2228. 3503. Council amendments dealt with. Melbourne Cricket Ground-Campers on 4573, 4747. footpath, 403. Point of Order-Quorum for Legislative Workers Compensation Board-Reports. Assembly, 4106. (qns.) 181, 3144. Cases awaiting deter Publications - Complaint re magazine mination, (qn.) 364. Cases heard, (qn.) article, 403. 3142. Administration costs, (qn.) 3144. Public Transport-Staggering of working hours for city workers, 401. Y. Road Traffic-Use of devices to measure Yana River-Lower Yarra crossing, 821, speeds of motor vehicles, 2444. (qn.) 4092. Sale of Land Bill, 3824. Senate-Functions, 347. Youth Welfare-Government grants to State Grants Act-Grants formula, 348. youth clubs, (qn.) 784.

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