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LoK- SABHA DEBATES

Vol V

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(Vol. V r.mrtainl NOi. 31-40)

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No. 39, Wednesday, July 27, 1977!Sravana 5, 1899 {Saka)

C o l u m n s Oral Answers to Questions :

♦Starred Questions Nos. 646, 647 and 649 to 651 i —28

Short Notice Question No. 25 . 29 — 3 6

Written Answers to Questions :

Starred Questions Nos. 648 and 652 to 664 . 37—48

Unstarred Questions Nos. 4944 to 5061, 5063 to 5065, 5067 to 5097, 5099 to 5110, 5112 to 5134 and 5136 to 5143 . . 48—248

Pa,)ers laid on the Table . 249— 53

Co.mmittee on Private M^mb:rs’ Bills and Resolutions— Fourth Report . 254— 55

Matters under Rule 377—

(i) Reported closure o f Jute Mills in Katihar, North Bihar re­ sulting in unemployment to 3,500 workers . . . 256— 58

(ii) Reported strike in Jute industry o f from July 28, 1977 • • • 268— 60 PARL-AMEr'TT LIBRARY Tea (Amendment) Bill— JK:.2. i ' o ...... Motion to consider— t a 'e...... Shri Purna Sinha 26c— 64

Shri Hukam Chand Kachwai 265— 68

Shri 268— 71

Shri Mohan Dharia . 274— 82

Clauses 2 to 4 and i . 283

Motion to pass—

Shri Mohan Dharia . 283

Business o f the House . 271—74

♦The sign + marked above the name o f a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor o f the House by that Member.

Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu 3 8 4 - 9 7

Shri C. K. Chandrappan 297— 308

Shri . 308— 15

Shri Janeshwar Mishra 315— 23

Shri Bedabrata Barua 323—27

' Shri Biju Patnaik . 328 -3 1

Shri A. Asokaraj 332— 34

Shri D. N. Tiwary . . 330— 40

Shri F. H. Mohsin . 340—43

Prof. P. G. Mavalankar 343— 50

Shri . 350— 53

Shri Brij Bhushan Tiwari . 353— 59

Shri Y. P. Shastri 359—67

Shri K. Lakkappa 368— 70

Prof. K- K . Amin . 370— 75

Shri Hukmdeo Narain Yadav 3 7 5 -7 9

Shri Kalyan Jain 379— 83

Shri Chitta Easy 3 8 3 -8 7

Shri M. Ram Gopal Reddy . 2 387— 88

Business Advisory Committe—

Fourth Report 370 DEBATES

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LOK SABHA are found satisfactory in working or Wednesday, July 27. 1977/Saravana 5, are found defective? Whether it is 1899 (Saka) true that they could not be repaired here and were sent to foreign coun­ tries from where they were plying? The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock SHRI : There were cracks in the bottom of those two ships but that did not affect their [Mr. Speaker in the Chair], working. They can be repaired. SHRI PRASANNBHAI MEHTA: ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS What impact these giant ships have Purchase of Ore-Bulk-Oil Carrier made in our import and export trade by Shipping Corporation of and in the economic working of the from Yugoslavia Corporation? •646. SHRI PRASANNBHAI SHRI MORARJI DESAI: These MEHTA: Will the Minister of SHIP­ carriers were' purchased when there PING AND TRANSPORT be pleased was a boom in the world market for to state; such giant ships. They could have (a) whether Shipping Corporation been more profitably deployed at that of India had taken the delivery of its time. This is how these four ships fourth giant ore-bulk-oil carrier from worth about Rs. 70 crores were pur­ the split shipyard in Yugoslavia; chased. There was profit for three years but now thefe is a loss of about (b) if so, the total cost of expendi­ Rs. 5 crores on these four ships. We ture involved; are trying to see how best we can (c) what will be its main uses; and make use of them. (d) whether Government are con­ SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY: sidering to pijrcliase one more such When was the order actu£iUy placed ship? and when was the delivery taken? Whether three is any proposal to THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI manufacture such type of ships in our MORARJI DESAI): (a) Yes, Sir. country? (b) US $ 23.80 million. SHRI MORARJI DESAI: These (c) The ship will be used mainly orders were placed in 1971 and 1973 to carry our imports of crude oil or and they were delivered in time. .grains and export of iron ore. There is no capacity for making such big ships here in our yards and that (d) No, Sir. is why they were purchased from out­ SHRI PRASANNBHAI MEHTA: I side. Now the question is not of add­ would like to know from the hon. ing such ships to our fleet but how Prime Minister whether such type of to e'mploy them profitably. Therefore vessels that wer&' purchased earlier, we are trying to put them to the best possible use. 1795 LS—J 3 Oral Annotrt JULY 27, 1977 C^of Ansvxer* 4

SHRI JAGANNATH RAO: May I (a) whether Government propose know the total GRT of bulk carriers to take necessary administrative owned by the Shipping Corporation steps to assiu'e fair chance of recruit- of India and whether they are sufB- m «it of Harijans in the Central Re­ cient to meet the requirements to serve Police and Border Security import crude from outside? Force;

SHRI MORARJI DESAI: Well, at (b) what is the percentage of present, we have capacity to bring all Harijans in the Boarder Security the crude that we have to bring. But Force and Central Reserve Police as we are going on increasing our ton­ on 30th May, 1S77; and nage in bulk carriers so that ultima­ (c) the steps being taken by Gov­ tely we can compete with the best ernment to increase their percentage? fleet in the world.

SHRI DHRENDRANATH BASU: May I know from the hon. Prime THE MINISER OF HOME AF­ Minister whether it is a fact that FAIRS (SHRI ):, the Hindustan Shipyard at Vizag has (a) Yes, Sir. started manufacturing such a ship (b) B.S.F. 14.26 per cent and, if so, when the manufacture is likely to bt* completed? C.R.P.F. 12.0 per cent (c) Special recruitment drives are' MR. SPEAKER: It does not arise organised and prescrib€?d standards out of this Question. are relaxed, wherever necessary, to recruit more Harijans. SHRI VINODBHAI B. SETH: I want to know from the hon. Prime Minister whether such ships can be constructed in this country, particu­ ’T'T ^ W I % I ? larly, in the Garden Reach Workshop TTTT at Calcutta which constructs ships of 26,000 DWT and, secondly, whether f^5TT % ffTsrsrf such ships can be constructed in the ^ ? ship building yards of Hazira and Paradip which will be economical to the country?

MR. SPEAKER: It does not arise. 3TT I ?rr<>T 'Tf# ?rrTT ^ «?T I ^ SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: May 1 t I SFTHT ir T W | I know from the hon. Prime Minister whether it is a fact that India does 3ft rHTT not have such berths at any of the Jr 2 7 I t I f ^ ports available today to accommodate these super tanker ships? tT^ if T w I wn I ir 11.76 I 4 ir SHRI MORARJI DESAI: These four ships can be accommodated in 33 TW t I ^ I our ports. qTH'? I

Percentaffe of Harijans in BSF and ipn : 2r 3ft f5rr?r C.BJ. 2 ^r ^ 3TT ?nwt f ^ •647. SHRIMATI KAMALA BAHU- aUNA; Will the Minister of HOME f?r«rff^ 2r ? a f f a i r s be plejued to state: 5 Oral Answers SRAVANA 5, 1999 (.SAKA) Oral Awxfi^rM 6

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|;?nT ?TW1TT q-| I f% 3T^ B .S .F . SHRI MOHD. SHAFI QURESHI: and C.R.P.F. % C\ Prrf^r^^r Why not? Justice should be done. These are very sensitive questions. ^f|-9T-fT ■'T'ft -fI f fiT ^ipsTcreCN -t 5f¥?T?? ^ f. MR. SPEAKER: 1 am not saying ^ t that it is not an important question. I only say that it does not arise out 5ft ^ f ?5 fj^rrf of this.

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TUT ffflPfT VTVT : ^ croachments, demolitions, beautifica­ tion etc., carried out in the Union Ter­ 5T-FR T srv^T an# I , ?ft ritory of during ^ ciT?) # TT^imiz % irrgTf ^ including the demolitions and the a r m ! tr srrar firing incident in the Turkman Gate area in April, 1976. t I t ^stmr ^ fti % %cr IT fST^r^ The Committee consists of the fol­ ^>T q6TTT>nJl ^ ^ ? The terms of reference of the Com­ mittee are to collect all the available «ft tfhnrift information in respect of the follow­ ^ > P T ^r?ft I f t I ^ rfV?: % ing matters: — % r : ^rs s ^ ^rft 11 moval of encroachments, demoli­ tions, beautification etc. in the Union t^rrf : s m ?i?"t t, Territory of Delhi were decided m ^ T?t -^J^Tl ^-Tr ^tr'i I upon and came to be given high ??»IT ^FTrftjft ir ^|t i , at priority during the period follow­ ing proclamation of emergency on ^ ^ I 25th June, 1975; (ii) the manner in which such Committee on Turkman Gate Incidents programmes were implemented and allegations in relation thereto; •65D. SHRI F. H. MOHSIN: WiU (iii) the nature of the law and the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be order problems which arose as a pleased to state: result of the implementation of such programmes; and (a) whether a fact finding Commit­ tee has been constituted to go into the (iv) in regard to the Turkman Turkman Gate incidents; Gate area, in addition to (i), (ii) and (iii) above, the specific facts (b) if so, the constitution of the relating to the firing that took Committee and the terms of reference; place on the 19th April, 1976 with particular refere*nce to: — (c) whether the Committee will not have as wide powers as a Com­ (a) the circumstances which mission of Enquiry under the Com­ necessitated the use of force; mission of Enquiry Act; and (b) the quantum of force used; (d) the reasons for not appointing a Commission or ordering a judicial (c) the number of deaths as a enquiry into the incident? result of the firing; (d) instances, if any, of loot­ THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ ing of property or dishonouring FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): of women in thtdr houses or in (a) and (b). The Govemmeftit of the locality on that occasion; India have appointed a fact finding Committee in respect of programmes (e) the arrangements made for ioT slum clearance, removal of en­ providing medical relief to the 13 Oral Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899(SAKA) Oral Answers 14

persons injured in the course of during its election campaign through­ these incidents; and out the country, but here the Gov­ 1 ernment have not treated the Turk­

SHRI CHARAN SINGH: The hon. SHRI CHARAN SINGH: Although Member opposite is wrong in assum­ the government is not expected to ing that a judicial inquiry ha^ been give its opinion on q question of ordered into the causes of death of law—it is a question of law whether Mr. Sunder. No. It is a CBI in­ thjJ judicial commission headed ■ by- quiry. Ht* has built up all his case Mr. Shah will have the right to go on the assumption that the inquiry into findings of this fact-finding com­ that was ordered into the death of Mr. mittee and take any other action as Sunder was a judicial inquiry. So all it thinks proper—still, I will, with the arguments he has advanced after your permission, tell my hon. friend that, fall to the ground.... (Interrup­ that the Commission will be free to tions) . take any steps it thinks proper for auiving at the truth. Secondly, a judicial inquiry was not ordered into this incident because- SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA HAL- it is merely q fact-finding committee DER: This Turkman Gate incident and all the facts it finds will be pla­ took place in April 1976 when Mr. ced before the Shah Commission it­ Mohsin was Deputy Minister (Home) self. So, it was unnecessary. i only .... (Interruptions). What he was do­ said it. , ing—I do not know. Whether he was ignorant or not, I do not know----- I may add a word. I admire the courage of Mr. Mohsin.... (Interrup­ SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY: Is tions). Being himself responsible for it a question, Sir? all these incidents, now he has the courage to speak up and hurl charges SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA HAL- against the Janata Government.... DER: I want to know if, after the (.Interruptions). receipt of the report of the fact-find­ ing committee, it is found that the SHRI F. H. MOHSIN: I have got Deputy Minister at that time, Mr. my second question. Moh.sin or the Home Minister, Mr. Brahmananda Reddy---- I am thankful to the hon. Home Minister for admiring my courage in SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: putting this question. But the Home Super Home-Minister, Mr Brahma­ Minister has not thought it proper nanda Reddy. to have the courage to institute a judicial inquiry ___ SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA HAL- DER:___are responsible for the fir­ MR. SPEAKER: What is your se­ ing at the Turkman G ate.... (Inter­ cond question? ruptions). What steps will the Gov­ ernment take in this regard? I want SHRI F. H. MOHSIN: I want to to know the number of people who know whether this committee, has died because of that firing? How already begun its work and whether many people were wounded and the it has got the same powers as a com­ total number of people evicted at the mission of inquiry to record evi­ Turkman Gate incident? dence ----- (Interruptions). I know that. Let him gay that. SHRI CHARAN SINGH: This Gov­ ernment does not know all the fticts. I want to know whether it is only These facts are probably in the know­ a fact-finding oommitteej which is ledge of Shri Mohsin. to collect information and submit it to the S>iah Commission or whether SHRI HARISHANKAR MAHALE: the Shah Commission can again go May I know when the Report of th& into all these matters after receiving fact finding Committee will be sub­ the report of the Comittee. mitted to the Goverament? 17 Oral Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 {SAKA) Oral Answers i 8

SHRI CHARAN SINGH: I think SHRI CHARAN SiNGH: I have to. they will do so early. No particular repeat what have already said. The date has fceen fixed. Commission will enquire into all the circumstances in which clearance* and removal of encroachment, etc. was WTW : q’sq’ST made in Delhi and the circumstances I — 100=^ ’ITSFT in which these programmes were de­ ^ 3rr | i cided upon and came to be given high priority during the period fol­ 5ftrf JTT^m »niT, lowing proclamation of emergency. I ^ JT^PT f^RTir think the specific question which the %f\x ^ Tt, ^ hon. me'mber has asked will fall with­ in this term of reference. ?rnT?r |?rr— fjrit ft-Pr- tT^ ftiT fq-i%TTT q lr SHRI KANWAR LAL GUPTA: fJTf57? 2T ^ I t it# JTf What about abetment of murder? Has any action been taken? % sTFT^r =^rfcrr i q?^- wrzr^t ^ 3Tf «ft m m SHRI CHARAN SINGH: I may add f^irtrftTrJT |5iT, ^ - a word. Whatever is necessary and is left out by this fact finding Com­ 5>JT fq-nTfST ^ a-TTT; ^ |5rr— jtt mittee owing to any deficiency in the ^5fJT JTtsrt % ?rr¥T ^ fqr «n, terms of reference can be looked into ^irr srrtRti^i^T Jf ^ m by the Shah Commission jtself. 3TRrft ? felTFfl’TFT ^!IT, ^37T ?T^ir ■sft : ?rsir5T ?rt7: ftrr firfTO:-^ JT? ^ f^?r %;gr | srk ^ ^

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MR. SPEAKER: There is no point WT% ^ ^ ’it I ? qf? of order in question hour. Please sit cT> T fw ilr ^ down. ^?TT^^T feTT WT ?T>T w r ? SHRI MOHD. SHAFI QURESHI: I would like to know whether you are going to create a precedence in this House that nobody can ask two v o w I I questions.

MR. SPEAKER: No, no. Unless other people are allowed you cannot 3f?rr^ have preference. f, ^ ^ qr ?T srt^ I . . . . ( a m n ) ...... SHRI MOHD. SHAFI QURESHI: This side should also be given prefer­ finr %5r>n^T^ I, ence. ^ ^TTVTT % ^ ^ f%KT I 55«T^3rr MR. SPEAKER: I am going to every side. t ? JTf^ ferr I flr> ^ ^ 19 Oral Answers JULY 27, 1977 Oral Answers 20

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PROF. p. G. MAVALANKAR: I SHRI CHARAN SINGH: This ques­ want to ask the present Home Min- tion does not arise out of the main iste^r whether he knows that Mr. question. Mohsin was Deputy Minister of Home Affairs when this serious incident took place last year. I want also to know =?rrf?rT ^ ^ whether the present Home Minister knows that the then Deputy Home I, W «T>t t 5T5 Minister had replied in answet to ^nrsTTT f^fsnc^ft t s i , Mr. Somnath Chatterjee’s pointed question in the Lok Sabha at that ^TTT I STY?: ^iJT t § I, t m time, and when at that time he made I , I I JTfr'TT^^^rt a statement, he did not say that the ?ft»T t s I, t ^ ?T5# I . . . thing was serious at all. (eqirtTR ) . . . SHRI F. H. MOHSIN: It is wrong. I have never said that it was not a serious thing. t ?t*T % g w - PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: Sir I would like to know whether it is qrrtfejT ^ I, w t a fact that not only Shri Mohsin who, at that time*, was the Deputy Minis­ I ^ 3ft >ifl- ?tp:o ?fto :??r i, ter but also Shri Om Mehta end also Shri Brahmananda Reddy and others ^ ^ 5ft JTft 'TT |?rr STT, it including the then Prime Minister ^ ^ >Tf*T *n, cff ^3]T

SHRI CHARAN SINGH: He asked MR. SPEAKER: I do not propose about the conduct of Mr. R. C. Jain. to allow this question. (Interruptions) The judge of the Supreme Court him­ You will, please sit down. If there self appointed Mr. Banerjee to look was any incorrect statement made, into the VIP land-grab affeir and there are other procedures and so, they have come to the conclusion that this question will not be allowed. Mr. R. C. Jain was innocent and there is no charge against him. PROF. DILIP CHAKRAVARTY: Apart from the report to be received from the Pacts Finding Committee, is he aware that certain crimes had al­ n\ % v x- ready been committed? In the Tifrk- 21 Oral Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers 22 man Gate incidents, the crimes were fSp^ft ^ H k 'w k 11 committed against humanity. How long is he going to wait for this? ?fto^o?rrfo *rtT ’srr^ >«'+)« SHRI CHAR AN SINGH: As soon ^ 5T ?T^5iftTw ^ ^ 3r?ra‘ as the report is received, Government will consider what steps should be ^ 11 («qir«TnT) taken. f^*T : Wt 3ft ^ sft JTrrm'ir sr»ft f^T f% ^ «rj5TT Tfj ^f ^ ^ ?T*nT i w ^ ^ ^ ^ I 51? iTTR tir 3ft ^ f 5 f?rr sAt q5T?f?^ sfT^'t *T5Ftr•o 5pt ^ t I ^ «ft | ?it t ?: fts r sfT^ft ^ «ft V t ^ f ^ ^ 5Ftf ^JTFT f%*lT ^rrft %• wr 'RTqrr | ? I 3TT^ ^r ^ 'jTMyrTTt : w ^nrr^r q-T ^ ^ ^srr^ | ? ^ 5FT% % %iT t jft^f^ ^ ^ ^ I ^ w ^P-IT f?T? : ^ ^ ^ ^ 3ft ^ «ft Pp 3ft ^5T I, 5®T »ft g r f ?ftT fft cirrir ?ft I I t «ft 5%?T ?TT^ qr |.... (a m P T )... % 3rf7^ ?#^nrft jpt ^>rt ^ft^ff ^ SHRI F. H. MOHSIN; These words should be expunged. (Interruptions) I I fir ^ p j iTTiT^ ^ ^ TTRr w:\ ^ «TT ^ i= r # ^ ^ ^ ^^^f^rzrt «ft MR. SPEAKER: Please, ait down. 3JTKT ^ 1 5 0 fV^a The hon’ble Members should not u«e 5Twff ^ 'rar 5T>n% % ^nftvFT harsh word*. ?RfTT »T2TT I p R »ft iTPnftZT ^ ^ 3ft ^ %%5T fftfer Jf «ft ^rr»T fn? : t «H'ST^ i f% I^o?JTfo?TTTo THTT |f, !T?r- T t ^ JTt f ® ’TH'd'ft^tn I I V R ^ h r ^ i f ^ t iM'W'j* ^ ^ I; I ?ft»ff ^ Lirdtfai^ O #5T ! T g T ^ ^r ^ ^ I ?nn: ?rrT vrrf^g ?ht^ ^ +^f^

srowtr : it ^ «Tt ^ ^ grr ^i??r i m i n ^ I %fjp5T W T ^ ^ ^ ^ f?Rfw jpt ?f^nft wqr?T WTT 3TTTT gTn?r ^t*TT I V^Rt ^ sriTfft... ( « m R ) ... ^ firf^^eT «ft : irmt^T ?Tfcir«fr I gsTT ?t ^ ____ 3ft, WTTRhr ift^ f^ ^ ( w m R ) . f I 2FT ^ ^ ^ ?TT f ^ f w 1 1 Jm I f% ?TTf5f ^ wjx qi^ f^qr «fT q j qr ^3RT I %ttK fsRHt ^RspR ^ ^ n>i*^

% fe«TTO ^ ^ I 3rm t ?rk ?fh: rRW ^ ^ ^ T>'^ p ??r ^ ^ >^?r5rT ^ ^ Tif «ft, ?rh: ^ ^ ^RVR 3ZTTT t ? ^ ^ ^ f% ^ ^ ^ if f ^ f ^ MR. SPEAKER: I do not allow this f^ ^ ^ ^ dMiyil^'t % ?TT question. ^T ^ ? SHRI SHAMBHU NATH CHATUR- VEDI: Sir, I would like to know whe­ SHRI CHARAN SINGH: This is a ther governmcAit will initiate pro­ question of opinion. ceedings on the basis of this Fact Finding Committee’s report or after the Shah Commission has submitted Super Thermal power Station in North Bengal its report? ♦651 SHRI SAUGATA ROY: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased SHRI CHARAN SlNGH: I can’t say to state: that yet. It may be we may send some findings of this Committee to (a) whether he is aware of the the Commission and on others after acute power shortage obtaining in. deliberation we may decide to take North Bengal impeding the develop­ action directly. ment of industries there; (b) whether there is a need of a «ft H U m : if ^ super thermal power station in North Bengal to meet this shortage; and 5Tt I t (c) steps Government are contem­ .. (s m jJ T ). . plating to meet this shortage? ^ c T ^ % ^ ’sr^^n I 3FTcTT THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN): (a) t n f f % 5T1^ ^ ?ft 5TTT ^ I to (c). A statement is laid on the Table of the Houa*. ^»*(H ife if 3ft Statement (a) The prtteent availability of f T T O ^ ^ ^ ^ I W T 5TTT power in North Bengal just balances- the load demand in that area. How­ ^5 Oral Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers 26

ever, on days when there is a short­ seems to me that the Minister has not fall in generation or import, load understood my question. I have asked; shedding is being resorted to. whether he is aware of the acute power shortage obtaining in North (b) and (c). While there is no Bengal impeding the development of proposal to locate a super thermal industries there? He has said that the station in North Bengal, the steps supply of power just meets the de­ being taken to meet the growing power mand. But. for future it is not good demand are: enough. I want to tell that whatever (i) The Raman Hydro-Electric Statement the hon. Minister has placed Project with 4x125 MW units has on the Table of the House, it is not been sanctioned. enough for North Bengal and there was a proposal to construct a thermal (ii) Import of additional power power station in Dalkhola, West Dinaj- from South Bengal through Malda- pur. He is saying that there is a pro­ Dalkhola-Siliguri 132 KV transmis­ posal to construct a large thermal sta­ sion line which is expected to be tion at Farakka to meet the growing completed by June, 1979. power demand in the Eastern Region of the country. But I want to put this (iii) The Rinchington Hydel ■question: whether the Minister will Power Station of 2x1 MW has take a decision in a very short time been sanctioned. It is expected to on the super-power thermal station at be commissioned by 1978-79. Farakka and the thermal power sta­ tion a( Dalkhola as they have done (iv) Jaldhaka Stage II with 2x with regard to a new super thermal 4 MW units has been sanctioned. power station in Tamil Nadu at the The first unit is expectt'd to be time of the budget. I want to know commissioned during 1979-80 a'.id whether he will give a categorical the second unit during 1981-82. assurance on this point. (v) Installation of two Diesel sets each of 3.5 MW at Siliguri. One SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN: With of these two sets has already been regard to the Dalkhola power station commissioned in July. 1977 and the it was considered and the Planning other is expected to be commission­ Commission did not favour it as there ed by March, 1978. are other difTiculties regarding the availability of coal and other things. (vi) 6 MW of power is likely to It is only in that context that a larger be available from Lower Lagyap power station for Farakka was consi­ Hydel Power Station in Sikkim for dered. For that power station, an m- distribution in Darjeeling, Jalpai- vesticaticn is going on. As soon as guri Districts by the end of 1979 the rroiect report is finalised, a deci­ or so. sion will he taken and with regard to the present position in I^orth Bengal, (vii) Some power i?; expected to the report says—as received from the be available at Siliguri from Chu- State Government and from 1he Elec­ kha Hydro-Electric Project in tricity Board in West Bengal—that the Bhutan after that project which is present availability of the power is under construction is completed and just sufficient to meet the demand and commissioned. whenever there is some shortage of (viii) A proposal to construct a power due to forced outages or the large thermal station at Farakka power is not imported from Bihar, to meet the growing power demand there Is some load shedding. That is the report we have received from the in the Eastern Region of the coun­ West Bengal Electricity Board. With try is under consideration. regard to Dalkhola, it was first con­ SIIRI SAUGATA ROY; I have seen sidered and to locate a large thermal the Statement of the Minister. It station there, the environment and 2 7 Oral Answers JULY 27, 1977 Oral Answers 2S also the availability of coal was not whether they have been delayed beca­ favourable. That is why it was given use of the inefficiency on the part ol up. the previous administration and whe­ ther any crash programme is being SHRI SAUGATA ROY: I want to thought of for generating power at know from the Minister whether he is an early date because they are all aware that the Jaldhaka Hydel Power long te.-m programmes. May I request Station has already become silted so the hon. Minister to give us the shor­ that it is not giving out any output of test time by which this could be over­ power. come.

SHRI P. RAMACHANDiRAN: 1 know there Is a report about silting SHRI p. RAMACHANDRAN: 'orae of the Hydel Power Station. I do not steps are being taken for improving have a report about that. But from power supply in North Bengal ana the report that I see, about 27 mega­ by March 1978 there will be an addi­ watts of power is being produced there. tion of 3.5 mw of power. Again the transmission line from Malda to Dhalkola to Siliguri is likely to lie SHRI : May I know completed by June 1979. When it is from the hon. Minister whether any completed power from South Bengal assessment has so far been made with can be transmitted to North Bengal regard to the power need of the dis­ when there is shortage. There rre tricts of North Bengal so that proper some small units also that are likely industrialisation 'of; that region may to be commissioned in 1978 and i;iV9 take place? May I also know at what and when they are completed stage the Farakka project is at pre­ power position in North Bengal would sent? also improve. With regard to the gene­ ral situation, I should like to inform the hon. Member that this Government SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN: It ii should not be held responsible for only about Farakka the investigation whatever has been done in the past, is going on, that is, about the coa] because there was some slackness in linkage. As soon as the coal linkage is implementing certain schemes and wc finalised, the proposal will be consi­ are aware of it. This government will dered and when it will be completed *t take all steps to see, as already an­ is premature for me to say now. Any­ nounced in the budget speech, that way, the needs of the North Bengal under the 6th plan we would endea­ will be taken into consideration a'.id vour to achieve self-sufficiency in by the time these 'power stations are power in our country. completed, the needs of the North Bengal also will be fully met. MR. SPEAKER: Next, short notice question. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: West Bengal is facing acute power shortage and lack of industrialisation SHRI DHIRENDRANATH BASU: of that stage and other difficulties ere One minute. You are aware of tbe being faced due to that. It is ’'ko shortage of power all over the country. well known that inefficiency on the part of the previous administration had created more problems than .solv­ MR. SPEAKER: No, no. I am on my ing problems. May I know from the legs now. I have called the short hon. Minister the list of projects that notice question. You are on the panel are there and also at what stage of of Chairman. Please resume your implementation they are? May I '

SHORT NOTICE QUESTION SHRI CHARAN SINGH: Not yet

Btepplnf up of violent activities by SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH MALIK: Mbo National Front Mr. Speaker, Sir, a tendency of sepa­ ration has been growing in Mizoram for the last thirty years due to the + faulty policy of the Congress Govern­ SNQ. 25. SHRI G. M. BANATWALI.A: ment. I want to know from the hon. SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH Home Minister as to what new policy MALIK: the Janata Government wants to adopt to integrate this region in the interest SHRI OM PRAKASH of the country. ..TYAGI: SHRI KANWAR LAL SHRI CHARAN SINGH: The debris GUPTA: left, by the Congress is yet to be cleared. SHRI GANGA SINGH: SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH MALIK: Will the Minister of HOME AFF­ I wanted to know the policy of the- AIRS be pleased to state: Janata Government.

(a) whether Government have seen SHRI CHARAN SINGH: It is the press reports in various sections of the Janata Government which ; will have * press that underground Mizo National to clear the debris and frame new- Front has stepped up its violent acti­ policies. It is yet to do it. vities in repudiation of the 1st July, 1978 peace accord by the rebel Mizo Leaders; (b) if so, whether these underground SWRT : TOT ZTf W N K Mizos are concentrating in and around | fa ^ srar srvtt Aizwai and Lungleh towns in the Union Territory of Mizoram; and gflffrtffr f w , m § m farw 3— w (c) whether any preventive mea- «r sremrj* favifrjr ^ foT % far* jsures have since been adopted by iffaprpff 5f TF*T- Government and if so, the details thereof? farfeft irfcffrftraf $ farr *rt R w *PTT »faWT*T ^ THE MINISTER OF HOME AFF­ % fat* *fcjr *1^, AIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): (a) ff, ?ft TOTT ^ ^ Yes, Sir. The Government have seen some press reports on the subject. sft fasrr $ wr f ? (b) There is no such information. (c) The Government are keeping a w w ^ srra | fa close watch on the developments and suitable measures are in force to deal appropriately with any situation fa*rr «rT, *5 3*r ?r foam 3 * which may arise. SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA: Mr. ft $ fa inr* tfnff tnfi Speaker, the reply is merely to the % % effect that the government has seen some reports in the Press. Will the fatj fatft W3R ftnwr hon. Minister tell this House categori­ fffl ^fa*T # Mxfa m * cally whether there has been an in­ *5 irranrcrc ^ 5?rr j fa wWte crease in violent activities in recent times* vwfc % w t, tffc tnrc '31 Oral Answers JULY 27, 1977 Oral Answers 32

«Tft, ^ I, i f # ^ JTHT^ HJT f^ ^?T t4 ?TtT ^ t ^ ^ ^ 9rft5T % 'T'i^ ^ ^*n, I ?ft ^ t m 3TW ? ^ ^ 9if«RT I ^ ^ 3T^ m sr^ 5F1T ^ ^riw SPT^ I 3ft ^ STfT «ft ^ mfT ncrt : t JT^ JT^t^ - d ^ % 1%tT if m 5iTq- ?

f ^ JTf ?T^ I f% «ft gT»r F«^ : ?ft ^ ^ gf^ ? n ^ T ct;-|q^ ^ t 5PT% HTq; f ?rr t i w T T Hl-OimT: t w W «TT, THTT ^ ^ ^ 11%r ^ ^ % S|K iT^MsPTt W ^ % ^rpTT ^ 5>rT I Cv ^rm 3Efh: 5q^ «f)?T t T ^ ^ ^ «ft ^ ?rre t fPTm ^^ft^rtt^l^^ % ST'T^ ? fW JT frfiT? ^ % ^laRT fR"3ft^ I f% ^Ftf ?rr^'t q r ^jHTT R’ T| ^■'t % qro f^Tsrarf, wf g^nf ^rRft |, ^ ^ 3 r r f i ^"k % 5T?n^ ^ % ?rq% wrf ^ % f ^ ^ rnp sqiw ITT 5t s q f^ t ^T ^ I, firff'n ?rrB rftr ?r ^r^r w ? r ^ I I I fwsfq-, t t i w ^'t ^ ^rnr i ^m ^ % ^rrsT JT^i^'? ^ e r ;j?t JTp ?rr?^T^ Hr^^ifr if grf?T 5fTira-^ ^ ^ t t ^'icff f ' % ?rra w r : ^ ^ r= n ^ fJT ^ r f itI ^ t ^^rr ^>ft, ^ iTTTff % Hf^STT^ ^ q-^ f^r^riT^ ?tt ?t\t f ^ 'r ^ ?ft7: ^ ^ fJT^>7TT f'^r^q-^ ^ ^ 3T?7fT5r> tTRcT 5FT I ? STerr^T JT^ ^r ?ffT TO ifr^T JT^Ir f3[qT I TO, ^ % «ft 5Ft ^ gr^RT f t I, 5TJR ^?r> ?rq^ sqr^ sftT ^ ^ ^ft ^ qm-qld ^ t ? Tnwr if ^ ^«ft ^ ^rnrr | ?TR Pf ?: ^ q^ I 5fr «ft ^ » r fff?! : ^ FtfsflTJT 'F ft^ ^T^ =r'^dl ^ ^ t w f H jfrw ?T?r % r^'^fd M ^ ?tiT ^ ^RT ^»T ^ 'ti^dl I, r«(^5^ ^TTT) ^TcT ^'T 'ti^cll ^ rR ^ ^ ^ $V?r, m ^ s fK )-, I ^ q r ^ f I qr ^TOT>JTr^*T 5FT ^ ^537 | I g ^ fq^rfTT^ ^ qT^ | I ^ €r^ ICT— srra? ^ ^ SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN; %— STOTR- I t ^ ifl- ^ fir% '4 I The Home Minister gave the informa­ ^tP+H q"td Tff5T iftst ^ tion that Mr. Laldenga, after having discussions and consultations with him t| ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ 5TR IT?T H ^fflr I and the Prime Minister... ^ fWfe'H ^ JTT^JT ^TcTT | f^: SHRI CHARAN SINGH; I was ^ Jr I 1 4,^m under t'- impression that he had seeu f w «TT, ^ ^ % fyH+'TT the Pr’ine Minister. But I understand now that he did not see the Prime Minister. He met me and the officers «rt iRhrm 5W 5> ; iteitst only. ^ rimsMi ^TcT ^ ^ ?fyT ^f^T SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN'. That does »iot change my question. ?f^ 3ft ^ 3|ft nf^W^JTt 5T ? ^ After having discussions with the spn «Ftf !T^ «TT f¥ ^ra- Homo Minister, the Home Minister 33 Oral Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers 34

now that Mr. Laldenga is rathei- Lok Sabha session was going on and hesitatinit or dragging his feet fit since there will be rains in Mizoram, keeping his word. Will the Home I should go alone and see the situation Minister tell the House as to what be myself, and give a first-hand an

Nowadays there are certain special SHRI CHARAN SINGH: The in­ forces under Mizoram Armed Police ference which the hon. leader of the opposition has drawn from Mr, Lal- in Mizoram. I wanted to bring this to the notice of the Home Minister den ga 'c conduct may well be right, but also. All the Mizo people are fed up we have nO informaticn on that point. with underground activities. We don't The leader of the opposition asked want violence. We want peace, but whether any foreign power is backing him and whether the reason for *iis there are some special forces of Mizo­ hesitation consists in this fact, that is, ram Armed Police (MAP) particularly the support of foreign power. I said in Mizuram, under the guidance of about this that his inference may well some high officials, which are out to be correct, but we have np information create an artificial law and order pro­ about that. blem. I do not want to mention their names. I want to know whether gov­ MR. SPEAKER; Would you enquire ernment have come to know of this into the matter? attitude of special forces as well as SHRI CHARAN SINGH; I wiU try high oflicials. to ascertain. While going to Mizoram, before SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: reaching Aijal i.e. about 10 Kms. from We are not dealing with the Mizo there, I met some people beloiiging to problem properly. We must have in­ these special forces of MAP on the formation. What are the intelligence way at 2 in the early morning. The services doing about it? number of their vehicle was ZRP—16. MR. SPEAKER; He says that he When they saw our people, they tried will enquire into the matter: to harass some of us. I kept quiet. I waited silently. But I got down DR. R. ROTHUAMA; Regarding when one of our drivers was threaten­ the so-called violent activity of the ed., They threatened to shoot him. underground reported recently in the So, I asked: “Who are you? One of Press, I also came across those things. their comnianding oflfcers, an inspec­ I was asked by m y party-men to go tor by name Lalchungnua was wear­ to Mizoram and see the situation my­ ing a mask. When he saw me, he self, and they requested me to go with took off all those things. He told me: Mrs. Jaipal Singh. But when I asked "Oh, you are here? You come hi my her to come, she said that glncc the jeep.” I refused. Along with him # / 179C LS—2. / 35 Oral Answers JULY 27, 1977 Oral Answers 36 there were about 6 to 10 persons in the compelled to go underground because jeep. Thie happened 10 Kms. away they have been treated like this. The from Aijal, capital of Mizoram. After armed forces have no understanding leaving us, they proceeded to Sihapir village, where they let loose their of this particular traits of these people. reign of terror. They threaten to That is why the local people are com­ shoot people because they say they pelled to use force. I am very happy are above the law, and that they can to have this opportunity to explain shoot anybody. my viewpoint. I would request the All these facts I collected myself. Home Minister to make high level in­ 1 think it will take time. quiry including M.Ps of different poli­ tical parties to go into this. MR. SPEAKER; I allowed you be­ MR. SPEAKER: Probably he wants cause you come from that area. Please put the question. to say that there is counter violence by the police forces. He wants you to DR. R. ROTHUAMA: Yesterday enquire into the matter and ensure morning I came. I should also say that counter violence is not there. that I dn not know the present posi­ tion in Mizoram completely. This is their attitude. I don’t think the pre­ SHRI CHAR AN SINGH; As far as sent Central Goveniment here will be aware of all these things. I myself I am able to understand, there is only did not know these things. Our party one particular incident, to which the leaders are afraid that if we communi­ hon. Member hag referred, an incident cate this matter i.e. the creation of an artificial law and order problem, those in which Mr. Thanki was involved. special forces might shoot us down That case is still under investigation. aijd also take revenge against those people who report. I can tell the whole thmg if I have the time. There MR. SPEAKER: His case is that are some officials who want to create a law and order problem. In Mizoram higher officials are using violence and, the special forces of Mizoram Armed therefore, the Mizos are reacting to Police are doing this. I would re­ it. Would you like to go into it? quest the Home Minister to have an on-the-spot study of this problem by sending out a team of MPs of differeiit SHRI CHARAN SINGH; I do not political parties so that they could agree that higher officers are using appreciate the problem. During the emergency all sorts of bad things were vioicnce and that is why the Mizos done there. So far as my sentiment want iudependence. That in a way is is concerned, 1 am completely against a justification for the MNF. I do not at.iy violence. But I woul^ request the Prime Minster to appreciate the agree with that. psychological character of the Mizo people. In fact, all the hill tribes are SOME HON. MEMBERS rose— taken to be head hunters. Some offi­ cials, without knowing the truth, with­ MR. SPEAKER: No further questions out verifying the truth, torture these people. So, they are tempted to take please. I am not allowing any more revenge. I believe they have been questions. ' 37 WrWeen Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 38

(b) whether there is a proposal to set up a factory at Ooty in Tamil 1 Nadu; and ♦648. «ft Wfjpn: WT (c) if so the investment proposed flYr «rfr f (pf ^rn% ^ and the r.r'ure of the manufacture? a>Mi : THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (^ ) (SHRI ): (a) The policy followed by Hindustan sp'r THs^ TPjPTnt ^ftfw ^ % Machine Tools in their expansion and TK f ^ R ^ t ; . diversification programmes of activi­ 5fh: ties is determined by the present atid future demand requirements in the (^ ) ^ ^ Tpsftir TTSFmr country for HMT’s manufactured pro­ ducts, comprising a variety of machine ■sfrfer 3IT ^ ? tools, watches, tractors, printing machinery, lamp making machines, swH »r?ft («ft iNiTf) : lamps and lamp components. (^ ) 5jY ^ \ (b) Yes, Sir. (g ) 5m ^5cTT I (c) A watch assembly unit is pro­ posed to be set up at Ooty. This will be owned by the State Government. Man with Information about C.I.A. HMT will assist in the setting up of Links this unit and will supply watch com­ ponents for assembly purposes. HMT ^652. DR. BAPU KALDATY; will also provide training inspection, SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA; quality control and testing facilities. The watches assembled by the unit Will the Minister of HOME AF­ will be marketed by HMT and sold FAIRS be pleased to state: under HMT’s brand name. The order of investment is estimated at Rs. 25 (a) whether a person named Rajiv lakhs. Sharma had delivered a tape contain­ ing talks between some Minister and Refractory producing Units of Bum the American C.I.A. Agents recently; Standard Co. in West Dengal (b) whether Government have in- •654. SHRI : ■vestigated into the facts; and Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (c) if so, the details thereof? (a) the condition of refractory pro­ THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ ducing units of Burn Standard Co. in FAIRS: (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): West Bengal; 3r^ f w sn | sr^sTT^r^ Jr sfi'^ |it eitt^ Jf T^!FT ■'3'T^i+.

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    5. ^ qfTjf^^snrnsff 'tt ^ ^TTf % f?rtT % fgrtr Jf g fe ^ Tft 1 1 sT’irTf^'f Jr gerrT *Trr «ft ^ ^ 7 ^ I I 3 ^ »T?ft (srt "fto TmV?2H) : (^) ?ftT (^). ^ ^ ^ ^ “Warranty” Charges by Private Sec­ tor Television Set Manufacturers ^3n% % •656. SHRI SHANKERSINHJI f^cT TrM'NH «TJT?rT ?TT#qT %tlX VAGHELA: f^T^Tcr EPT ^ ^1 - spfft rT«TT SHRI AN ANT DAVE: «TI'df % 'rfWHT^^T 5TOTf ^TT Will the Minister of ELECTRONICS I be pleased to state;

    2. ssT^rr^, ^ (a) whether Government have seen 3nniT ^ I ^ ^ ^ !F> a Press report appearing in the Eco­ nomic Times, dated the 29th June, ^ ^ STTFft Jr T vs^ 1977 (New Delhi Edition) to the ^ % sjHTor tfft Jr effect that the private sector televi­ Xf^rtVSf m ^ t I sion set manufacturers have decided to charge Rs. 300/- for “warranty” : 3. ^ » T f ^ % 5FET (b) whether so far they were not If ^rrfim t :— fanr^fV ^ charging anything for “warranty” J qrtsT’T ftraTT diwrMl Jr and 4 1 Written Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 42 (c) the reaction of Government THE MINISTER OF ENERGY thereto and the measures proposed to (SHRI P. BAMACHANDRAN): (a) be adopted to ask the television set and (b). The Fuel Policy Committee manufacturers not to charge anything was appointed by the Government of for “warranty” ? I India in October 1970 to recommend THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI an outline of a long-term national fuel MORARJI DESAI): (a) Yes, Sir. policy and measures and agencies to promote the best utilisation of avail­ (b) So far, except for M/s Electro­ able resources and optimum efficiency nics Corporation of India LTD., in the use of fuel. The Committee (ECIL) and M/s J. K. Electronics, no submitted its final report in August other TV set manufacturer is known 1974. The recommendations of the to have charged a separate fee for Fuel Policy Committee have been con­ service during the warranty period. sidered by the Government and by and large these have been accepted in (c) It has come to Government’s principle. Taking into account these notice, that to take advantage of the recommendations, a National Energy concessional excise duty of 5 per cent Policy has been formulated, stressing available only on 51 cm TV sets with inter alia that coal should be the an ex-factory price of Rs. 1600 and principal source of energy in the coun­ below, TV set manufacturers have try, that import of oil should be re­ reduced the excise clearance price to duced and substituted by indigenous that level, but have, thereafter, added production and energy production and a charge varying from around Rs. 70/­ utilisation should be made as efficient to around Rs. 400 depending on the as possible. the manufacturer, for servicing during the warranty period. There is no pro­ vision under the present industrial licensing regulations for Government (c) and (d). It has been accepted, to intervene in this matter. However, as recommended by the Fuel Policy as there are over 40 units making TV Committee, that the planning for ;a- sets, the competitive market forces dustrial locations should be consistent are expected to bring sufficient dis­ with the plans for production and cipline to the industry. Government movement of coal. In locating in­ will, however, consider intervening in dustries, availability and supply of the ’ matter if it becomes absolutely coal and other fonns of energy are necessary. taken into consideration. Similarly, plans for coal production and move­ Acceptance of Fuel Pofticy Commit­ ment are formulated keeping in view tee’s Recommendations the prospective demand for coal from •657. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: Will industries in the various regions of the the Minister of ENERGY be pleased country. Steps have been taken by the coal companies and railways foi to state; easy availability of coal to ihdustried (a ) whether Fuel P o licy Commit­ in different locations. Proposals for tee's recommendatioTis have been ac­ establishment of industries. Seeking cepted b y Government; Government clearance are required to indicate details of fuel requirements, (b) if so, facts thereof; specifically coal and coke, and the cor­ responding transport requirements to (c) whether planning lor detaUed industrial location will be consistent enable the Government to ensure that with the plants for production and they are consistent with the plans for development and movement of coal movement of coal; and and coke. (d) if so, details thereof? 43 Written Answers JXJI.Y 27, 1977 Written Answers 44

    Plastic Capacitoni recently been received. This propo­ sal has not been recommended by the •658. SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRI- Licencing Committee. SHNAN: Will the Minister of INDUS­ TRY be pleased to state; The news item also refers to the alleged approval of a scheme of a (a) whether Government’s atten­ monopoly house for the manufacture tion has been drawn to a news item of computer terminals. It is correct under the caption ‘^N C S spread nets that an application for the grant of an far and wide’’ appearing in the Eco­ industrial licence for the manufacture nomic Times on 3rd July, 1977 which of 400 units of data entry systems has deals why an entrepreneur was re­ been received from a company belong­ jected and how multinationals are ing to a laree hou.

    THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) Shortage of Drinking; water and and (b). The news item apparently re­ Quarters in the Collieries of ECL fers to an application made by M/s. Technicraft Corporation for the esta­ *659. SHRI ROBIN SEN; Will the blishment of a new undertaking in Minister of ENERGY be pleased to Kerala State for the manufacture of state: 8 million nos. of film capacitors and (a) whether he is aware of the 100 MT of metallized dielectric film. It fact that due to acute shortage of is not correct that their proposal was quarters and drinking water in al­ rejected as made out in the news item. most all the collieries under Eastern In fact, they were granted a letter of Coalfields Limited, the workers are intent on 15-5-1976 for manufacture forced to live in inhuman condition; of plastic film capacitors for a capa­ and city of 8 million pieces. Subsecjuently, the letter of intent was modified on (b) whether Government have any 24-7-1976 to include a capacity of 100 scheme to construct more quarters for MT of metallized dielectric film. How­ the workers and to supply them suf­ ever, later on, the party withdrew ficient filtered drinki«g water parti­ its proposal. cularly in summer season?

    It is, however, correct that a propo­ sal from an Indian resident abroad for THE MINISTER OF ENERGY manufacture of magnetic recording (SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN); (a) tape, magnetic video tape and magne­ and (b). Government are fully aware tic tape for professional use such as of the need to provide adequate hous­ computers etc., has not been appro­ ing and water supply facilities to the ved. This proposal was rejected on workers and are giving high priority the ground that a similar proposal had to this work. As against 22,800 been turned down in the past and that houses (excluding non-standard the party had not accepted any export houses and dhowrahs) at the time of obligation. nationalisation in the Eastern Coal­ fields, the number of houses at the end It is confirmed that an application of 1976-77 stood at 30,409 representing from a company with 50 per cent an increase of 37 per cent. During the foreign eciuity for the manufacture of current year, ECL propose to construct Casette tapes, open reel tapes, com­ another 4,500 houses. Similarly, the puter tapes and magnetic film has population covered by Drinking Water 45 WHtten Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 46

    Supply at the time of nationalisation into a collaboration agreement with ■was only about 16,000, whereas at the Kraftwerk Union A. G., West end of 1976-77 it was about 1,82,500 Germany, for the design and manu­ representing an increase of over 10 facture of turbo-generator sets in the times. .T)ie company has fixed a target range of 200 to 1000 MW. This in­ of 50,000 additional population to be cludes the 500 MW Turbo-generator covered during the current year. set proposed to be installed in Indian power systems. Bharat Heavy Electn cals are in the process of absorbing Devdopment of Small and RuraJ the know-how and implementation of Industries by H.M.T. .. the collaboration agreement.

    •660. SHRI K. A. RAJAN: WiU the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased lo Meeting of various Departments to state: discuss Investment Proposal (a) whether the Chairman of Hindustan Machine Tools has said •662. SHRI NIHAR LASKAR: that H.M.T. could help to develop SHRI R. V. SWAMI- small and rural industries by training NATHAN: workers through community work­ shop centres and also by identifying Will the Minister of PLANNING the ways and means of exploiting be pleased to state; natural resources by those units; and (b) if so, measures being taken (a) whether the planning Commis­ towards this end? sion called the meeting of various departments of the Central Ministries in June 1977 to discuss the invest­ THE MINISTER OF INIXJSTRY ment proposals; (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES); (a) and (b). As reported by the Chairman, (b) whether they also discussed the Hindustan Machine Tools Ltd., it was proposal as to how to increase the ind:cated during the Seminar on foreign exchange reserves and food Small Scale Industries held at HMT, surplus; Bangalore, on the 24th and 25th June, 1977, that HMT would initiate an in­ (c) if so, main features of decisions tegrated study with a view to identify­ taken in the meeting; and ing the socio-economic needs of the rural sector. HMT has taken up neces­ (d) the guidelines issued to th« sary investigation for formulation of Ministries in this regard? a definite scheme. THE PRIME MINISTER (SHEl Know-how for 500 MW Thermal MORARJI DESAI): (a) No. Sir. The Generators Deputy Chairman of the Planning Commission had, however, informal *661. SHRI D. D. DESAl: Will the consultations on 24-6-1977 with Senior Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Officials connected with Economic state whether India has acquired Policy and Economic Advisers know-how to make 500 MW thermal of the various Ministries to ascertain generators?, the studies to be undertaken on the problems connected with short-term THE MINISTER OP INDUSTRY and long-term planning in the context (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): Yes, of the formulation of the Approach Sir. With the approval of the Govern­ to the Sixth Plan. ment of India in August 1976, Bharat Heavy Electricals Ltd. have entered (b) to (d). Do not arise. 47 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 48

    Night Vision Binocalars Developed By shared between the two sectors with Bhabha Atomic Research Centre public sector playing a dominant role. *663. SHRI DHARMVIR VASISHT: (b) No separate allocations have WiU the Minister of ATOMIC been made. ENERGY be pleased to state:

    (a) whether a device for seeing in (c) It is presumed that the reference the dark called night vision binocu­ is to coastal shipping. If so, the lars has been developed at the Bha­ answer is in the negative. bha Atomic Research Centre;

    (b) if so, whether a monocular version of the device is under design Proposal to prevent misuse of Gov­ and manufacture for security and ernment Macliinery by Ruling Party surveilance purposes; and

    (c) whether any foreign collabora­ 4944. SHRI D. B. CHANDRE tion in respect of (b) above is under study of Government? GOWDA: Will the HOME MINISTER be pleased to state: THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) Yes, Sir. (a) whether there is any proposal (b) Yes, Sir. under the consideration of Govern­ (c) No, Sir. ' ment to prevent the misuse of Gov­ ernment machinery by the Ruling Party; and Expansion of Shipping

    *664. SHRI AMRUT KASAR: WiU (b) if so, the details thereof? the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT be pleased to state: THEM'INISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (a) whether Government have any (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): (a) and plan for the expansion Of shipping (b). Government propose to under­ under public sector shipping compa­ take necessary legislative measures nies; aimed at preventing corruption, ab­

    (b) if 80, how much foreign ex­ use of official position and other kinds change has been allocated to the of misconduct at higher political public sector companies and how levels. much for the private sector; and

    (c) whether the private sector ship­ ping companies have failed to satisfy A Bill to this effect, called The the need of the countries as regards Lokpal BiU, 1977, which seeks to internal shipping? provide for setting up an institu­ tion of Lokpal to inquire into THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI complaints of misconduct (as de­ MORARJI DESAI): (a) The Fifth fined in the Bill) against public Plan target for the Indian Shipping is men, such as Union Ministers includ­ (i) 6.50 million GRT in operation; and ing the Prime Minister, Chief Mini- (ii) 0.50 million GRT on order. ShipP' ters of States and Members of Parliament, will be introduced in Lok ing is in the joint sector and, therefore, acquisitl®n of this tonnage will be Sabha during its current session. 49 Written Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 50

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    4 94 5.' «ft : fzn 'i'wVl «(ai^ ^ IV : .. .Increase in prices by Brjlcream (^ ) 5Tn> 4946. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: vhErnrtfW % ^ % SHRI K. KUNHAMBU: ^mtesTT 5T ^ ^nrir Will the Minister of INDUSTRY t ; be pleased to state: ( ^ ) «Tf;nTfiT^^ ^ (a) total number of times the Bryl- f+d^ ^nT’^rfTTTT ^ ^ cream has increased its prices during »rf I: the last two years and the details thereof; and ( jt) w sW'Sr-f^9T^ ?R r vnrwR 3TT^ % ^ ^ ??r% ^ - (b) steps taken by Government to prevent unreasonable price increase ^TTJI 5f gJJTT |!TT I ? of this company at the expense of the 3?ftn »T?ft ( « f t «F T ffin i) : consumers?

    (^ ) ?TRi THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY ^iftHTTtfToH % ^w^ff ^ %^T T^^rr (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) 30 ^?r, 1973 ^ ^ irf 11 ^ Government do not maintain data on the prices of non-essential items like 1973-74 % ^ ^ Tdm ^ Brylcream. ^ I ?T>T ?ftCT ^ ?lT ^ (b) Does not arise. f^ir ^ ^ ?TRIT I I ^ ^ %^T 'r Vot Jr ^ ^ ^n?ir ^ ^ vrmr Jf ^^^rfrzff ^ Enforcement of Section 25 of Cr. P.C. WTJfV ?>rr I I ^ 1 9 7 6 -7 7 ?r^ET ^r ^TCT ?R ^T ^ wrar n wtfsra- 4947. SHRI AHSAN JAFRI: Will ST'T^TH ^ SfHt[M the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be ■ f ^ I cR % ^ ?f#€r ^r f ® 5 ?rR pleased to state:

    11 (a) whether Government are aware (o ’) iHPittrnddiki % ^ T ’JT of the fact that though the Cr. P. Code ’73 has come into force since % fip?ft «ft ^=^R t ®J5ft last three years, the State Govern­ ^ # *rf I I ments have not enforced section 25 of the Act by putting Assistant Public (*r) ^ 1 9 7 6 -7 7 ^ Prosecutors under Legal Department instead of Police Department as con­ TT 35. 87 ^ templated by the Act; and fUTT 31^ 197 5-76 ^ TRtWC 17. 92 ^ pjT «TT I f*f)TWt (b) if so, whiat action has been taken so far and what future action ir ?r^ ^ ’ TRt Tft 1 1 the Ministry will take in this res­ <8rtvnr % ^ ^f sr^FrfiRr- pect? ?I7Xt' fanrif %■ f ® THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ f^^TTRT % ^ % j»T % t, FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): Written Answers JXJLT27, 1977 51 Written Answers 52 (a) Section 25 of the Code of Cri­ (c) if so, the reaction' of Govern­ minal Procedure does not contain ment thereto? any provision to the effect that Assis­ tant Public Prosecutors should be THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY placed under the control of the Le­ (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES)) (a) gal Department. to (c): The location of Central In­ (b) Does not arise. dustrial Projects has to be decided on broad techno-economic considera­ tions. Subject to techno-economic Enforcement Cells to safcffuard the considerations, comparatively back­ Civil Rights of Harijans ward regions are given preference in the location of Central Public Sector 4948. SHRl SUKHENDRA SINGH: Projects. Will the Minister of HOME AF­ FAIRS be pleased to state: At present, there is no proposal for , (a) whether there is any proposal setting up any industrial project in under the consideration of Govern­ the Central Sector at Gwalior. ment to set up enforcement cells in all Districts to safeguard the civil Jn the State Public Sector, the rights of Harijans; and State Government has a number of projects location of which has not (b) if so, the details thereof? been decided. Some of these pro­ jects may be located near Gwalior. THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): (a) and (b). State Governments have been advised to consider the setting Opening of the Closer Inclines and up of a cell or any suitable machinery Quarries of Fakka, Khas Shyampar of to look into the grievances of Hari­ Eastern Coal Field? jans. Special police cells have been set up by the State Governments of 4950. DR. RAMJI SINGH: Will the , Bihar, Gujarat, Minister of ENERGY be pleased to , Kerala, , state; , Orissa, Tamil Nadu and , at different levels (a) whether on behalf of Bihar Col­ according to the local conditions, to liery Kamgar Union, , a de­ deal with cases of violence against or mand notice was submitted to the harassment of Scheduled Castes, and Area Manager (Area No. for the enforcement of the Protec­ VIII) Eastern Coal fields to open all tion of Civil Rights Act, 1955. the closed inclines and quarries of selected Fakka, Khas Shyampur to Public Sector Undertakingr in take back all victimised and retren­ Gwalior ched workers; if so, action taken by Government thereon; 494(9. SHRI MADHAVRAO SCIN- DIA: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state; (b) number of workers of the said area deprived of their jobs and the (a) whether in the absence of any grounds on which they were remov­ big industry the demand for setting ed from service; up a Central Public Sector Under­ taking at Gwalior is long over due; (c) whether Government propose to (b) whether it will provide em­ take back these workers; and ployment (^portunities in the region; and . . (d) if so, by what time? 53 Written Aruwers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 54

    THE MINISTER OF ENERGY 10 days or more makes a workman (SKRl P. RAMACHANDARN): |a) liable to termination of his services. Yes, Sir. Statement I is enclosed. (iii) Demand to re-open Boka (b) to (3)'. Statement II is enclosed. Pahari Colliery.

    Statement I This colliery does not belong to the Limited and The main demands contained in the was being illegally run. demand notice and the position in respect of these, as reported by the (iv) Abolition of Contract System. Eastern Coalfields Limited, is as The jobs for which employment of follows: — contract, labour has been legally pro­ (1) Demand for opening the closed hibited are being done departmental­ inclines and quarries of the Selected ly. Fatka Colliery re-opening the hard Statement II coke Bhatta of Selected Fatka Colliery land re-opening the Khas Shyampur The following statement indicates Colliery. the number of workers whose em­ ployment was terminated in Area There had been indiscriminate VIII of the Eastern Coalfields Limited mining in the Selected Fatka Colliery during the emergency in diflere.'.t and the mine had also been flooded. categories, as reported by the Coni- Tec'hnical investigations to examine pany:— the possibility of reopening the mine have been undertaken. Some work­ (1) Services terminated or names struck off on grounds ings have already been started and of unauthorised absence by the end of May, 1977, 686 work­ /including those who were men who were on the rolls of this untraceable) ■ • • 834 colliery on 31-1-1973 had been ab­ (2) Medically unfit. 249 sorbed. The question regarding the hard coke Bhatta of this colliery is (3) Dismissed on proved sub judice in the Calcutta High charges of misconduct ■ 17 Court. As regards the Khas Syam- 1100 piur Section of the Shyampur ‘A’ Colliery, adverce mining conditions have made ita reopening very difficult. The workers found medically unttt All the workers of Khas Shympur were given a chance to appeal against Section have been absorbed in the the decision of the Medical Board. Of Shyampur ‘A’ Colliery. the 49 workers who availed of thii opportunity, 24 were reinstated on (ii) Review of the cases of the consideration of their appeal. workmen retired or whose names were struck off on various grounds. As regards others, normal channels of redress are available to those, em­ No workmen was retired except en ployees who have any grievance. attaining the age of superannuation or on grounds of medical imfitness. Fly-over for Nangal Raya-Delhi The cases of the latter category were Cantt. Railway Crosstog given a chance to appeal. As re­ 4951. SHRI MOHAN JAIN: Will the gards terminating the services of the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS­ workmen, it was done only in such PORT be pleased to state: cases where the worker concerned had remained absent unauthorisedly (a) whether the construction of the and without valid reasons for more fly-over has been sanctioned for Nan­ than a month. Under the standing gal Raya-Delhi Cantt. Railway cross­ orders, an unauthorised absence ot ing long back; 55 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 56 (b) whether any tenders have been THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE called and work entrusted to any (SHRI ): (a) and (b). party; The widows of Service personnel who retire with a retiring/disability or in­ (c) the reasons for the delay in valid pensiai are entitled to family starting the construction work; and pension irrespective of whether ieath takes place within one year of retire­ (d) when the Ewtual construction ment or thereafter. However, the work is likely to be taken in hand widows of those personnel who retire and by what time it would be com­ without earning a pension themselves pleted? are not entitled to family pension.

    THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI (c) and (d). The position indicated MORARJI DESAI): (a) Yes Sir. above holds good both for civilian eni- ployees and service personnel. (b) Not yet Sir.

    (c) One of the approaches of the proposed bridge falls in the canton­ Subordinate Services Commission ment area and requires the clearance 4953. SHRI GIRDHAR GOMANGO: of Defence authorities. This has not yet been given and the work cannot Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be started unless this clearance is be pleased to state: given. Efforts by the Delhi Municipal (a) whether a Subordinate Services Corporation are, however, continuing Commission has started functioning to to persuade the Defence authorities to fill up various posts of Group ‘C’ in give necessary clearance. Government offices;

    (d) It is expected that after the (b) if so, functions in details there­ work is awarded, it will take about 3 of; years for completing the project. (c) whether the employees who are Pension to the Family of Dead already in Government service will Ex-Servicemen be given any relaxation in age or qua­ lifications etc., by the Subordinate Services Commission as has usually 4952. SHRI DURGA CHAND: WiU the been given to the departmental can­ Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to didates; and state: (d) if so,, the details thereof?

    (a) whether no pension' is given to THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ the family of those ex-servicemen FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): (a) who die within one year of their re­ Yes, Sir. tirement from the service; (b) A copy of the Resolution regard­ (b) if so, what are the reasons ing the setting up of the Commission therefor; which indicates its functions is laid on the Table of the House. [Placed (c) whether this facility is given to in Library. See No. LT-847/77]. civilian employees; and (c) The employees concerned will (d) if so, whether this facility is be eligible for such relaxations if any, -proposed to be provided to ex-service­ as are provided for in the recruitment rules applicable to the posts-services men placed under similar circum­ concerned. stances? 57 Written Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 58

    (d) The nature of the relaxation, if only on exports and not on any, will depend ,6n the posts/services internal sales. concerned. . However, this proposal did not materialise as M/s. Gillette Industries Setting up of Industries by Gillette went back on a number of points of Industries Ltd. of England their original understanding includ­ ing the export commitment. Subse­ 4954. SHRI SHEO NARAIN: Will quently, several Indian entrepreneurs, the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased including a State Industrial Develop­ to state: ment Corporation as also a State Gov emment had at various points of time (a) whether the Gillette Industries negotiations with Gillette Industries Ltd. of England during the last few for collaboration for the manufac;are years submitted any proposal to Gov­ of safety razor blades. But no propo­ ernment for the setting up of a fac­ sals has so far been received either tory in India either ori their own or in from the Indian entrepreneurs or from collaboration with some Indian firm; Gillette Industries. and Production of T.V, sets in Small Scale (b) if so,' Government’s reaction ana Large Scale Sectors thereto? 4955. SHRI S. G. MURUGAIYAN: Will the Minister of ELECTRONICS THE m in iste r OF INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES); fa) and (b). In 1967, the proposal of an (a) the production of T.V. sets in existing Indian company manufactur­ India in small scale and large scale ing razor blades for technical and fin­ sector; ancial collaboration with Gillette In­ dustries Ltd. U.K., was approved on (b) the production of individual the following basis;— units in small scale and large scale sector; and (i) The U.K. firm will have foreign (c) whether the production is not participation in the joint ven­ upto the installed capacity; if so, the ture not exceeding 49 per cent reasons for the same? of the total equity capital in the form of machinery and the balance if any, in cash. THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a): The produc­ (ii) 25 per cent of the total produc­ tion of T.V. sets in the small scale snd tion should be exported in the large scale sectors during the Calender first year which should be in­ year 1976 was 1,02,020 and 41,757 res­ creased to 50 per cent of the pectively. total production within a period of 5 years. The ex­ (b ). The production figures for in­ port obligation will be sup­ dividual units in the small scale sec­ ported by a Bank Guarantee. tor and large scale sector are given in the statement laid on the Table of the (iii) There should not be any in­ House [Placed in Library. See No crease in the capacity of the LT—848/77]. items, as already licensed and approved. (c) The rationalisation of the im­ port duty on the T.V. glass shell froni' (iv) The use of the UK Company’s 186 per cent to 75 per cent, and intro­ trade marks will be permitted duction in the Union Budget for 59 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 60 1976-77 of a differential excise duty Scheme of Issuingr Licences to Unem­ structure, with a concessional excise ployed Touths duty of 5 per cent ad valorem applica­ ble to T.V. seta having an ex-factory 4957. SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN: value of 1,800 and less, resulted in in­ Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be creasing the demand for T.V. sets by pleased to state: about 50 per cent. As a result, a num­ ber of manufacturers have been able (a) whether the scheme of giving to consolidate their position ,and some licences to the unemployed youths has in the small scale sector have been been withdrawn; and -able to achieve a production even in (b) if so, the reasons therefor? excess of their approved capacities. However, there are also some approv­ THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY ed manufacturers who have been un­ (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) able to make much headway owing to There was no scheme, as such, of giv­ problems in marketing and sales. ing licences under the Industries (.De­ velopment and Regulation) Act, to the unemployed youth. Increase in Reservation for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes.. (b) Does not arise.

    4956. SHRI MANQHAR LAL: WiU Portuguese Laws in force in Goa, the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be Daman and Diu pleased to state: 4958. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: (a) whether there is any proposal Will the Minister of HOME AF­ to increase the percentage of reserva­ FAIRS be pleased to state: tion of posts for candidates belong­ (a) whether Government are aware ing to Scheduled Castes and Schedul­ that a large number of Portuguese ed Tribes in the All India Services; laws are still in force in the Union and Territory of Goa, Daman and Diu and thereby great inconvenience is caused (b) the Scheduled Caste-wise re­ to the local judiciary, the Bar and presentation Of these Communities in litigants who are not conversant with these services? Portuguese language and legal system;

    THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ (b) whether a Law Commission ap­ FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH); (a) pointed by the Government of Goa, There is no such proposal under con­ Daman and Diu submitted its report sideration of Government. in the year 1971 recommending repeal of certain Portuguese enactments in (b) The total number of Scheduled force there and extension of corres­ Castes as on 1st January, 1977, in the ponding Central Acts; and three All India Services, namely, (c) what steps Government contem­ Indian Administrative Service, Indian plate to repeal the said Portuguese Police Service and the Indian Forest Service is as under: laws and extend corresponding Cen­ tral Acts so as to bring about unifor­ mity and parity with the rest of the I.A.S. I.P.S. I-F.S. country? 303 >47 5> THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ FAIRS: (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): (a) The operation of all Portuguese laws Government have no information which were in force In Goa, Daman about the representation of Scheduled and Diu immediately before 20th De­ Castes on caste-wise basis. cember, 1961, i.e. the date on which 6 i Written Answers SRAVANA 6, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 62

    these areas were made into a Union (b) if so, the action taken or pro­ territory, was continued by the Goa, posed to be taken by the Govern­ Daman aid Diu (Administration) ment? Act, 1962 enacted by Parliament, until amended or repealed by a competent THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ legislature or other competent authori­ FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): (a) ty. Many of those laws have since As i?er records, the Memorandum been replaced by Central Acts and laws stated to have been submitted to enacted by the legislature of the Union Prime Minister, has not been receiv­ territory. A few Portuguese laws i*re. ed. however, still in force in the Union territory. The Government of Goa, (b)' Does not arise. Daman and Diu have intimated that no inconvenience is caused to public, judiciary, Bar or litigants by reasans of the existence of Portuguese laws. Cases involving Portuguese laws are disposed of by judges knowing Porm- guese law and language. '

    (b) The Law Commission appointed 4 960. by the Government of Goa, Daman and Diu recommended that all Portuguese laws, except those the imnr.ediate re­ peal of which was not considerable feasible or advisable. should be re­ pealed and certain Central laws, vvhich (^ ) 5RT ^ had not been made applicable to ^ 1975 ^ Daman and Diu, should be extended to that Union territory. tTftWR % 40,000 (c) A proposal for undertaking legislation for giving effect to the re­ {^ ) commendations of the Law Commis­ sion appointed by the Government of Goa. Daman and Diu is being proces­ «TT ; sed by that Government. (»r) TK % Bajri Scandal ^ WK »TJr

    4959. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: SRT ^ ^ ; Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIFS be pleased to state;

    (a) whether a memorandum addres­ W f T«jTff

    (c) whether in both the cases, ir­ regularities have been practised, and : ( t ) % (»t). the weaker section' has become the worst sufferer of emergency; and SnfTPT ^ fHcH-il<, 1975 % ^

    ( 3 ) iTfTfirr *lTOt ^ «T>qRft »rnjV % ?TTST ^ ?TJTir ^ar ^ 5T5^ — 5,000

    ?r ij- I 2 7 Sfft, ^ i w 4 962. : SPTT STT, fer ;tit w f h f T ^ Tlftr 1,212 ^ fTTT : «ft I

    (*r) 3ft, ^ I (^ ) ^ ^

    («r) i

    Retrenchment, Dismissal of Employees 5TTT ^ ^ »rf; by B.C.C.L. and Eastern Ltd. 5EftT

    4961. SHRI A. K. ROY: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to ( ^ ) TTsrfff ^ state;

    (a) the number of retrenchment, I ? termination, dismissal of employees, permanent and casual, in the Ltd. and Nirsa Muguna Zone of Eastern Coal India Ltd. dur­ 3Tirf ^ (sft i\o TmeFffiT) : ing emergency and the percentage of (^ ) qr^ ^ % harijans and adivasis among them; ^K, (b) the number of employees, ap­ prentices recruited in the B.C.C.L. an'd Jf ftro % ftwV Nirsa Muguna Zone of Eastern Coal ^ »Tf I I India Ltd. during emergency and the percentage of harijans and adivasis among them; (w ) ^ ^^?TT I 65 Written Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 66

    Coal Belt in Bankura District of details regarding the steps Govei».- . , West Bengal ment have taken in this regard?

    4963. SHRI BUOY KUMAR MON- THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE DAL: Will the Minister of ENERGY (SHRI JAGJrVATT RAM): (a) and be pleased to state; (b). A Boys’ Training Centre is being establishsd at Chilka. The land for (a) whether Mejia, in District Ban­ the project has been acquired. The kura (W.B.) area contains a belt of civil works have been divided into two fine qualities of coal which may be phases. Phase 1 has been further in abundance, if exploited; and split into sub-phases. The first hUb- phase, planned to make the establish­ (b) if so, when the mines located ment functional with minimum facili­ there are to begin work for extraction ties, and involving an expenditure of •of coal? Rs. 2.2 crores is expected to be i.om- pleted by early 1979. The work i» THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI proceeding as scheduled. The secoti.l P. RAMACHANDRAN): (a) and (b). sub-phase, designed to provide other Mejia arr?a in Bankura District has facilities and amenities for the estab­ some reserves of inferior quality coal. lishment and involving an expenditure Eastern Coalfields Ltd., has plans to of Rs. 1.19 crores, is expected to be open a niine in that area. But ihis completed by the end of 1979. Phase could not be taken up just now due to II of the project wiU be taken up i'fter inadequate demand for this coal ;ird completion of Phase I. lack of infrastructural facilities. The progress of the project is satis­ factory. Chinese Armed Forces in Tibet

    4H64. SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN: Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleascJ All India Health Senrice -­ to state whether there has been any increase in the overall strength of the 4966. SHRI VASANT SATHE; Will Chinese armed forces in Tibet particu­ the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS b# larly in Ihe Indian border area? pleased to state; THE 1/IINISTER OF DEFENCE (a) whether there is a proposal t* (SHRI JAG.TIVAN RAM): There arc form All India Health Service; no indications of any increase in fh* overall strength of the Chines arme

    Statemknt Nadu have, even on reconsideration, reiterated their earlier stand not to The All India Services Act 1951, was participate in the scheme of the Ser­ amended in September, 1963 to provide vice. for the creation, inter-olio, of the Indian Medical and Health Service.

    2. Formal orders under Section 2A of the All India Services Act, 1351, 49v7. TRVNra 5*!^: constituting the Indian Medical and mr Health Service with effect from 1st 7,^ Frr ftr : February, 1969 were issued. The Rules regarding recruitment and cadre («r) WT JTf I Pfi'OMiNK »anagement were also finalised in consultation with the State Govern- mrrr ^ ; rsents and the Union Public Serv’ce (?i) w r Iff 55rrf Commission and notified in the Gazette % ^

    tial recruitmenrthereto because seven t'V ^ TfV I ; State Governments, namely, Assam, Jammu and Kashmir. Karnataka, (^ ) v: Jmrif Maharashtra, Punjab, Tamil Nadu and VT ifh: f%(RT ^«T?r«a: West Bengal, who had earlier agreed to participate in the Service, suDse ^uently either withdrew their consent «fVo TTtrapen) : to participate in the Service or exorts- (^ ) sed certain reservations regarding the ^ 1977 ^ ^ need for the formation of this Service. 863, 1245, 1.174, 1 188, The matter was taken up with the dif?- senting State Governments requesting 902 «ftT 704 ^ 'rf^f ^r% them to agree to participate in tne T m I . Service in the larger national interest As a result of these efforts, the Gov­ ( ^ ) f!TT % ernments of Assam, Karnataka, Pun­ ^ ?rfy+Tr

    apTo ,77 77 ‘ 77 '7 7 '7 7 '7 7

    ( ’STTT

    40 87 43 50 220 75 ——— — 12 87 6 60 1058 1133 1100 726 642 5319 88 100 88 88 176 — 540 — 110 — — 110 863 1245 1374 1188 902 704 6276

    Per Capita Consumption of Essential 1975-76. There has been no reduction Items in the per capita expenditure of es­ sential items except in the case ol 4968. SHKI S. KUNDU: Will the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to sugar and textiles which recorded a state: slight fall in the last two years of Ihe period. (a) the per capita income of diffe­ rent States and the national average of per capita income during the last three years; (c) Consumption levels depend on the growth of incomes, the level ol (b) the per capita consumption of prices and the availability of essential essential items during the last five commodities. Personal incomes nre years and whether there has been any expected to rise as a result of planned reduction in these items; and development. Efforts are being made (c) if so, whether any steps being to stabilise the prices of essential ooiii- taken to increase the per capita con­ modities. The availability of certain sumption of essential items? commodities in short supply is oemg augmented: for instance the import of THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) Please see both raw cotton and synthetic libre statement 1 which gives Per capita has been liberalised in order to increase income of different states and the na­ the production of cloth. Arrangements tional average for the three years ending 1975-76. Similar estimates for have been made to import substani'al 1976-77 are not yet available. quantities of edible oils. The supplies of cereals, sugar and other food items (b) Please see statement 2 which in the market are also adequate at gives the per capita consumption ex­ penditure (at constant prices) of <»ssen- present and efforts are being made to tial items during the five years ending step up production. 71 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 72

    Statkmhnt I

    Per Capita income of States and Indii (/?*.)

    State/UT 1973-74 1974-75 1975-76*

    I 2 3 4

    I. Andhra Pradesh 840 1003 919

    2. Assam . . 641 811 850 3- Bihar . . 604 718 § 4- Gujarat • 1080 1038 NA 5- Haryana . . . • 1174 1217 NA 6. . 902 1046 1050

    7- Jammu & Kashmir 720 836 883

    8. Karnataka 704 784 785

    9- Kerala . 785 861 NA 10. Madhya Pradesh . . 734 830 793 II. Maharashtra . • 1091 1270 1330

    12. Manipur . • • • • 637 684 740 13. Orissa . • 701 707 785

    14. Punjab . 1393 1482 1580 15. Rajasthan 780 819 NA 16. Tamil Nadu • 814 851 17. Uttar Pradesh . . . . . • 707 817 781 18. West Bengal . . • • 944 1040 1046 19. Delhi . . . 1682 2135 2130 20. Goa, Daman & Diu • 1284 1573 1689

    All-India . 856 989 1005

    •quick estimates. ©comparable figures not available.

    Note I. The estimates of p;r capita state domis'ic product (State income) prepared by the State Statistical Bureaus are not sirictly comparable among States ana wi tn those of the all-India prepared by CSO owing to differences m concepts, metho­ dology and source material used.

    2. NA-Not available. 73 "Written Answers SR A V A N A 5. 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 74

    Statbmbnt 2

    Per capita consumption expenditure of essential items at constant prices {Rs.)

    Item of consumption 1971-72 1972-73 1973-74 1974-75 1975-76*

    I 2 3 4 5 6

    I. Food

    I. Cereals & cereal substitutes • 84 4 77 4 80 9 77 0 89 2

    2. Milk and milk products . 20 7 21.5 21 6 21 3 21 3 3- Edible oils . . II-5 10-7 10-6 10 3 II -2 4- Meat, egg & fish . 7 6 7-7 7'7 7-6 8 2

    5- Sugar . . • 15 5 14 I 15 3 13 I 13 5 6. Other food . 3*-6 38 4 41 0 37 7 41 4 7- Total . 178 3 169 8 177 I 167 0 184 8

    II. Clothing Footwear

    I. Clothing 24 9 25 I 25 5 25 I 24 9 2. Footwear 4 6 3 7 3 9 3 6 3-8 3- Total . . . 29 5 28-8 29 4 28-7 28-7

    •Quick Estimates,

    nwTTH'A m w rn SWH »nft («ft *ft7TT«ft iH Tf): (^ ) ^ (*r) 5I^hr TRwnf % i824 4 96 9. «ft »ra5T : r^o Jfto Jf ^ 1644 fee »fto ^'t wf=^ ir ^ f^RptTR t I ftt ; Fr«r 179.65 fr o jfVo I t Wflr% tmr^rr, f ?r 5?r Tf^ JTf^lr '?"?: (^ ) nSTTM ^r 5?r 3n% f i 1 7 9 . 65 fro jfto TT^nrnf ^ mT I ?»\t f e m ?r»fV ^tt f w t : - ^RT I ;

    ( ^ ) STT^'t f ^ t ^ ( t ) gfT ^ T t M ^f ?ra'TcT- % WT I *n^T% Jr =FT — 24. OOfroifto I n^rrnrN» ^ F=ph f^RR I ; ?ftT

    (n ) TT3r»TT»f ^ f5T^«T vra (w) ^ ^rftnift if t f ^ * T ^ IT^rar? 57T ^ ^ raRm ^ ^ iftiTT cf^-»3. 00 fro # • I iPT ^ ^ I ’ 75 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 76

    (»r) cT^TTsnrnr % Jr ( 9 ) qfr#3r^r % Pr»TW % irnr— 62.65 f^ o »fto %<3[ f^'Ff)’ ^ ^ Jiff *rniT *nrr 1 cimfT Tfrfl^frr % srnmsF 53ff 5^ TTsnmf ^ 12 . 45 s to tr o v^v\ Jr »THT *nTT | 1 89-!rrfo irq-o |

    JTf TTHT TTsrirnf | tt^zt FTTR rsTTTH % (tt) ^»T»rr 13 ?rrer trcfr^ ^rfir spV ^ I *TT^, cR> f ^ r f I ^T^nTrTT %■ ir ^ TT 5. 42 ^ 5rT»TcT % ?Tcff {^ ) % ^fTTrfSRTRl’ ■ f t f t, fsTTif 3;qT (»T) T m cPTT TriTf^TR TR^T I 4jry+lvi WTR ?TT ^3TT^ ^ I {^ ) Jf ^ s p r a f ^ - PT^ ST»T^ 6 6 0 (4X165- t f m w 5T?ir^) pjr^T^f ^f ?TrT^3l-WTnT «Tfr!TtarTT ^ STOTT % J T f^ f ^ sq-^fSTT 4 97 0. «ft : ^3T5rfI I itPth: f^^rT 5PTrTT *f?ft ^ fT’TT : 4 1 2 I I

    (wr) F ^ 'TfTifTir^T fir??Tt 5f iTsrr *T>n infn ^ % qr f 5T ^'ra't ^ EJR f5TT I ; 5TnifTv

    ( ^ ) fzn' ??T 'TflTft^^ % 4 971. «ft

    ^nnr ^ f^jrr ?frr ( ^ ) w i TT^nrnft ^ ^ o ^ro ^TfPT^n" STF^ ^ ; wrMtiWf 5T«r^ M?r?r Sr iT?^ it vFpfnT 6 ^Tpar ^ (JT) TfTTfT^RT ^ 80 f^nr jjW 3nfcT % ^ ^r f>ft ; gf^sTMf % ?HTFr n

    (^t) TT^f fiRTT t | I ; 5Ft ?ftT ;

    (»t) wt srfh: ^ sRm ^ ^ 5pR

    (^ ) ^ ^ sr«rm »fsft («ft «ftrmft : n ^ +i4cir^ spT I ? (^ ) ?rk (^). if .Rfamni spT mjr?rr ^•Cl ^ ■ . T m ^c+tt ^rr n? («ft ftr^) : (^ ) 'dTK5^7 gF^OTiT sr^PT ^ JTf I I $rf$ni 3(1% ■T3^ % ^ift^ ^ sifft % if ^ ^ 11 ^ iPTiTR' ^nrnrr w |;, ?r*nfT mfswRfr (g ) % (isr). % w r s ^ if friff ^ ?rryR' tk «i*ft»r 34i?rV< 342 %^3w?m%?r£fM'5r?^^ ^3=11 +I^'H>H1 ^ ^ 'ftiw TTHT cPTT ?fET WrfHcT ^ if ^ (f'M^^si r S F ^ ^ »TJft t I TTHff “Ft irrf^^TRft 'dH*i'l'’ti I % ?njt^ ^rsnff ^ >rf 1 1 3R% ?ftT 5m 5fiT f^TirW % f ^ q t ^ J T t ^ TTST % f® »rm if ^ if 108. 13 ^ 5q-^F«rr JT^ 3n% % ^ if Tftm ^ w t 11

    ^ *s^ 3TH4lfd % if Ph R ^ f ^ w I, ?f^r ?nf^ ^ % 5nr if 3fR- r?T ^ 5T^ « T l t n ^ % f*T«TlTf i» HT«n fTT 5PI>I f w w r 11 f??5fr if 4973. «ft srmf ^*rf : % sqf^wm ^ ^rrfw / ^JTT HiJ i f ^ aRTHf ^ ^ T T ^T^T^rrf^ HWT ^ HWT f% ; ?fk t Jf 5rrfN1/5FT- 3Trf^ ^ ^mff % qr^ ?T^ f I (^ ) Wr J7T Pt''^ ^J=5^ aTTtrrWiff if if P l«W , nmf a «PT f*4*T f f , ?fr

    4972. «rt *T5> ?nH : ^ STT 1976-77 if STRTW # f%crr f^rw f ^ if f^ir ^ iA k zTi i^qr f^ : ?f^^■jft iTTTRn: ^ ?Ttr ^ s r^ rf^ 11 ^

    (W^) ^ q?TT I ? T ^ ■'li'Ti ^f ^ % vfnn ^ (^) w f ® f^ , ?n^ ?rrf? % Tg^ ^ ^ I; fifT^ smrrgrzT s n i mr f ^ %

    ff k ittvrh: ^ ^H+l'O ^TT*Ft ^ ^ STRT ^ ^ ^ JnFlftRT f«»njT w ? ^ T?: s i w ^ ^ orrinfr i

    Aboliabiof death sentence ^ 1 «?); (^ )

    «r«iiaM % 348( l) % 4974. DR. HENRY AUSTIN; ^ ^ ^ jfftf SHRI :

    ®HFTT «t>

    wnfr if ^ fiw I (a) whether Union Government have deaided to abolish the death 5R m: TI^MPd ^ r-HI^HK, sentence;

    STFTHzfr (b) if so, whether any directive t PPTJfr, ?TT^ «rrf^ % % has been issued in this regard;

    WtJT jpt WHflfd'S I ^ I (c) how many death sentences rJTTJTHJff 5T7T 1 976-77 *T ^f have been awarded by the judges during the last three years; and f<;^ f w f f , *TTfe ^ ^mr (d) in how many cases, the death 5RY?: ^3^ JCf^ % «+'ISM % ^ s5 sentences were commuted by the if JiM +iO % >rm President during the above period?

    >dH'l«Bi 5T^ ^ !tY?! |?T % TFJ7T CTT^nXT THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ ^ f^WT

    if (c) Information received so far from the State Governments and the vrbn t, Union Territories is given in the at­ nrcTT % spft^ ^

    5^ 5^TRM

    WsTIH^ ^ HWT % f^2T years is as follows: — 1974 • • 27 if T T ^ ^ ^TTrft f. I 1975 • 23 •^fnpnwt snr wnxfhr wTvnff if 1976 • 15 ?ni^^?rwT?ftr % 5T<<>T^^ % ^ ^ TR^r 8l Written Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 82

    S tatem en t

    Death sentences awarded by the Judges during the last three years in various states I Union Territories

    ■ t

    State/Union Territory Death sentence awarded by Judges during the calendai years 1974, 1975 and 1976

    Andhra Prade>;h . 21

    Assam . • « • • • 5

    Gujarat •• Nil

    Jammu & Kashmir 22

    Karnat?ka • 33

    Kerala 19

    Maharashtra . . . . . 14

    Nagaland . .

    Orissa . . . •• . . . . I

    'IVnil Nadu . . . . . 61

    Uttar Pradesh .

    West Bengal . . . . 2

    Andaman & Nicobar . . . . Nil

    Arunachal Pradesh

    Chandigarh . . .

    Dadra & Nagar Havel i . . . Nil

    Delhi . . . . • • • • 3

    Lakshadweep . . .

    Pondicherry . . Nil

    Note ; Replies from the Governments of Bihar, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Manipur, Meghalaya, Punjab, Rajasthan, S*kkim & Tripura and Union Territories of Goa, Daman & Diu and Mizoram are still awaited. Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 84

    ^ VT VTTWT'Tt IneffectlTlty of T.V. sets in Pun* (Maharashtra) in Summer seasos

    4975. «Tt : fZTT 4976. SHRI R. K. MHALGI: Will the ^ frtfT ^ : Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state:

    ■ (^ ) w r 5|7rqiWf % (a) whether Government have re­ ceived a written representation from Jr ^TFT;r% (Maharashtra) in the month of +Rrf5^sp % ??q- it (c) whether the persons concerned were accordingly intimated?

    *rf t ; srk THE MINISTER OF INFORMA­ TION AND BROADCASTING rSHRI (»r) ^ gxsFR ^ L. K, ADVANI): (a) Yes, Sir. T?T ^ Jr ^3’T^TSEr (b) The interference is caused by ^3’TJfnr ^ CTTWHTf aci 1^ ^ ^ ? a foreign station operating on the same frequency as Bombay, whose programmes are relayed by Pune. Alternate relay arrangements tlirough ^Tfftn »T^'^ («ft <»)5TtfeT) : P & T DepEirtments microwave link (^) ift, ^ I are being engineered. These are ex­ pected to be completed by the end of 1977. («r) A m 'WJ ^ srfim ( 1) 20,000 ifto zH ’H

    % f^nr tt^ ?rmiT-qw f w 4977. «ft f«P*Tt?T ^ToroT m?ar : w 11 : ^O ^ f^o JT^lf 15,000 Tfto 27T f^rart (^ ) ^ % ?mT 5RT I ^PTSr ^ ^ ^?ftcTFf m «rrqiRfd' ?Tf!m ^ (^o sio) ir trap w pqrfw ^rrft 5:nT ^ 1+ f w »TJTT I I ^RTf 5TT I ;

    (tt) f'fJ^T^r^ Jr ffTihTTt (’?) SRTT spT ^ Jf ’rPiiTl'Ji'ii ^ ?TT^iR sarwt ^ ?rnTm ^ ^ ^ | ^ ^ lift' feRR ^ I 3^»frWI ^5ft % Jf ^ !TIrfr .85 Written Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) WriUen Answers 86

    (b) whether Government are also ^ imsfhr ?T«T 3WTT ?T«TT ^ aware that these companies have vir­ tually converted roads into their go- downs and the flow of traffic is often blocked by parking trucks on (’t) zrfe ft, ^ ^ rR? ? road; and

    (c) the action taken or proposed to be taken by Government in this re­ ^«ftn *nft («rt : gard? {^ ) g w I ?fk ■ w T?: 3rr^ ) ? THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) Yes, about 55 transport companies who still have (g-) ^ (’T). 1977-78 % their offices in the Shradhanand Bazar area. ^?nt siwrr 5F> snm ?j'1g'l(r =rt smrrf^ =F5% mains blocked by trucks for loading and unloading of goods. Goods are ^ ?TT'fl' iTRWWi’^r cTSTT ^ % also sometimes kept on the road, though for short periods, before they W T w I I are shifted to the transport companies’ godowns. f k ^ n f ^ ^ irra- ^ ^mnw ^ ^ iT'j^rRf 5T ^ srnr ^ ^rrar ^r (c) The encroachments on the road, ?^?ff % ?T^r t I as a result of keeping goods on il, are removed whenever raids are or­ ^ R'Yf^ qr ganised under the relevant provisions sjm TWf ^rrar | ^ ^ of Delhi Municipal Corporation Act. ■»ft ^ % f ^ ' f ^ T5TT HTStW ^ Sites have been reserved at suit­ 5'T gfJR ^ +T<=l'lf ^ 5IT I q-^ able places for the location of Trans­ tr=F fHTTcR srfw | f3TH% port Companies under the Master Wtnr HtHT RlTf ^'T I I Plan of Delhi. Delhi Development Authority has planned/developed five transport centres, where some of the Shiftins' of Transport companies from transport companies have already Shradhanand Bazar, Delhi been shifted. Three sites are also proposed to be developed by Muni­ cipal Corporation of Delhi for the 4978. SHRI ARJUN SINGH BHA- purpose. DORIA: Will the Minister of SHIP­ PING AND TRANSPORT be pleased to state: Non-recognition of Tea garden Adi- vasis as ScKeduled Tribes in Anam

    (a) whether Government are aware 4979. SHRI CHARAN NARZARY: that despite repeated tfemand from Will the Minister of HOME AF­ the Public, transport companies have FAIRS be pleased to state: not so far been shifted from Shradha- nand Bazar, in Delhi although sites (a) whether tea garden and ex-tea had been reserved for them long ago; garden Adivasis are not recognised as 8? Wiitten Answers JULY 27. 1977 Written Answers 88

    THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ (b) Yes, Sir. For the reasons stat­ FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): ed in reply to Unstarred Question. (a) and (b). The Tea Garden and No. 3388 on 13-7-77, it has not been BK-tea garden persons who do not be­ considered desirable to make a change long to the communities which are in the present policy of filling the specified as Scheduled Tribes in rela­ posts of JROs by deputation only. tion to the State of Assam have not been treated as Scheduled Tribes because their communities do net Artificial Limb Manufacturing Cor­ satisfy the criteria laid down lor poration of India, Sanpur specification as Scheduled Tribes. 4981. SHRI RAMANAND TIWARI: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be Junior Receptimi (MBcerg pleased to state;

    4980. SHRI HALIMUDDIN AHMAD: (a) whether agitations and strike Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS were going on recently in Artificial be pleased to refer to the reply given Limbs Manufacturing Corporation of to Unstarred Question No. 3388 on Jndia, Kanpur for pressing certain 13th July, 1977 regarding representa­ demands of the employees; tion from reception officers and state:

    (a) whether it is a fact that devia­ (b) the demands of t^e employees; tion has been made in certain cases and in the appointment of Junior Recep­ tion Officers against permanent vacan­ cies and in extending their deputa­ (c) steps being proposed to solve tion period and if so, the reasons the grievances of the employees and therefor; and to bring about harmonious industrial j-elation? (b) whether a few Hon. Members of the House and the officials of the THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY Institute of Secretariat Training and (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): Management have suggested to revise (a) No, Sir. There was no strike or the present policy of filling the posts agitation in the factory but slogan of Jr. Reception Officers by deputa­ shouting and demonstrations were tion and if so, what decision the Gov­ organised by a section of the em­ ernment have taken in this regard? ployees outside Office hours and out­ side the factory area during June, THE MINISTER OP HOME AF­ 1977. ' FAIRS (SHRl CHARAN SINGH): (a) During the last five years when (b) The ALIMCO WORKERS the present policy has been in force, UNION submitted a charter of De­ deviation has been made only in two mands to the Labour Commissioner, cases. In the first case, absorption Kanpur, representing that— was agreed to on compassionate grounds as the officer was on deputa­ tion from an isolated post in the (1) ALIMCO employees shovdd Ministry of Home Affairs, where be given salary benefits at there were no prospects of advance­ par with the Hindustan Aero­ ment. In the second case, the request nautics Limited’s employees. 89 Written Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 90

    (2) all the employees discharged ( 12) reduction be made in the dufing Emergency be re­ prices of food stuffs served instated immediately, and the in Canteen. suspension of Shri M. C. Gupta, General Secretary, (c) The Labour Commissioner, Kan­ ALIMCO Workers’ Union be pur, has started conciliation proceed­ revoked and Shri Gupta be ings and the outcome thereof is re-instated without delay. awaited. The management took the initiative to call the Union represent­ <3) all the temporary and casual atives for a discussion as a result of employees be absorbed as which issue of prices of food stuffs permanent employees imme­ served in Canteen has been resolved. diately. The Canteen em­ Union has agreed to abide by the ployees should also be given Code of Discipline for industries. The salary and other facilities at situation is normal. part with Corporation em­ ployees.

    (4) payment may be made in cash for the overtime work done after the scheduled working hours. 4 9^'2. ^ Trrom TTjrt : ^ZTT it # zrf ^ fTTT ^ i%; (5) the D.P.C. rules be revoked and all the promotions should be on the basis of spniority. (*p) % 4l

    (6) the leaves prescribed in Standing Orders, which have been certified, be accorded immediately.

    (7) E.S.I, Scheme be done away ( g ) JTfe eft with and Government depart­ mental medical facilities be provided. f?rr ?

    ( 8) workers be given represent­ ation in the management. ^«ftn (wt : (9) elections to all the commit­ (^r) ^ ^ I ^ ^ tees be held. 21 1977 ^ <10) the Union should be provid­ 82^0 65 ^0 SrTrTift^ ed with furnished accom­ 17 Srf^T modation, and Office-bearers I ^ ^ ^ f^r?p p b« spared for two hours for Union work. CN •

    <11) recognition be accorded to % TRor ^smTT wF*T

    (5®) 1976-77 *f Feature Films 11^ (i) We Shall Meet Again As^ Promised. 5 . 8 5 « F ^ ^ ^ TT3r??T I (ii) The Young Woman of Bai-' <1<»I'< 5TO 7T3JI ? I W Sao. Documentaries ^55TT (i) The Greatest Holiday. JRftftr 5 ^ TT3^ HW ?: ^ I ? (ii) Winter Coats. (iii) The Truong Son Road.

    Soviet-Yietaam Film Festivals held About 1,000 people witnessed the in New Delhi Inaugural function and about 690 people attended the Commercial 4983. PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: shows. Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to (c) The inaugural functions of the- state: Soviet Premiere and Vietnamese Film Festival were restricted to invitees (a) whether the Soviet and Viet­ only. The commercial shows were,, nam Film Festivals were recently however, open to general public. held in New Delhi; (d) The selection of the films for (b) if so, the details of the films the Soviet Premiere and Vietnamese shown and the approximate number Festival was made by the respective o t people who witnessed them; countries.

    (c) whether the said film festivals (e) Such festivals, besides strength­ were restricted to invitees only or ening the bonds of friendship bet­ were open to the general public on ween India and the participant coun­ payments; tries, provide people of India a chance to know about the way of life in the (d) who selected the said films and participating countries. what w«s the criteria for such a selec­ tion; and Delhi Sales Tax 4984. SHRI KANWAR LAL GUPTA: (e) the cultural impact, if any, that the said festivals had on the Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS Indian public? be pleased to state:

    THE MINISTER OF INFORMA­ (a) whether Government have re­ TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI ceived any representation for the sim­ L. K. ADVANI): (a) and (b). No plification of the Delhi Sales Tax; festival of Soviet Films was held in (b) if so, the details thereof; New Delhi recently. Only the pre­ miere of the Soviet film entitled (c) the action taken by the Gov­ “Blockade” was arranged in New ernment on it; Delhi OR 29th June, 1977. About 1200 persons attended the function. (d) whether the distributing cha­ racter of Delhi has been adversely affected by the recent changes in A Viftnamese Film Festival was the Delhi Sales Tax Act and parti­ held in New Delhi on 3rd (inaugural cularly by the orders of the U.P. function) 4th and 5th July, 1977. Government; and The films shown in the Vietnamese (e) if so, the steps Government Film Festival were: propose to take to remove this defect? 93 Wnttcn Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 94

    THE MmiSTER OF HOME AF­ (^ ) v n ^ fiRTT FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): irfHVTfWf SRT (a) to (c). The Delhi Administration have informed that a number of re­ presentations for the simplification of ^ I ; srfr rft the Sales Tax have been received since the enforcement of the Delhi ^ ; wVt Sales Tax Act, 1975, with effect from 21-10-75. Largely the representations (58T) ^ fJTT relate to (i) l£vy of Sales Tax at the first point and (ii) declaration forms, prescribed under the Sales Tax Law. In sO far as levy of tax at the first point is concerned, the Select Com­ mittee of the Lok Sabha, which con­ sidered the Delhi Sales Tax Bill, 1973, (^ ) ( 1) 97^ SRT WMZi recommended that “with a view to check evasion of tax and also to faci­ 3rrrt ^ ^ 28 1977 ^ litate collection wherever possible the i^rr o «To 374( f ) jiTT tax should be levied at the first point.” 3rr^ *TFff»T (?TT? % fW rrn This recommendation was kept in view by the Administration when tax on various goods was shifted to the ^rpToft srT’wrHf a'«rr ’TTPTw'f first point. However, subsequently » s r w r f^ sTfvrRff ^ large number of representations were % fw*fr’T, received by the Administration parti­ cularly, from re-sellers effecting inter­ ’ffk/?r«nrr ^rTrsrrff % ^ state sales and small manufacturers that the levy of tax on lirst point was proving detrimental to their interests. I %f\x q«TT ^^nqr. After considering the .same, the Ad­ ^ I I ministration removed some items from the list of goods taxable at first ( 2) IT? «ft I Or point. Regarding various declaration +JT^Tf?:q1r % «TTft forms under the law, efforts have been made by the Administration to !HraH>T7l' ^ 5^- streamline the procedure for issue of f w ^ STT ^ the forms. The matter is periodically reviewed. 5T1M ?n^9ff spT 'Trarr 1 (d) The distributive character of Delhis’ trade has not been adversely No-war pact by Pakistan with India affected after the enforcement of the Delhi Sales Tax Act 1975. No speci­ 4986. SHRI SUSHIL KUMAR fic orders of U.P. Government have DHARA: Will the Minister of DEF­ been mentioned in the question. ENCE be pleased to ctate: (e) Does not arise. (a) whether Government of Paki­ stan is unwilling to sign a no-war pact with India until and unless the so-called Kashmir issue is not settled; ffTTT f*mrf HftrfTT ^ % OTiln (b) whether that country is making hectic preparations in increasing her war-potential and stock piling of 49^ 5. VTWT : WT weapons of description and other war-pronged materials; ^95 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 96

    (c) the reasons that Government has reduced the expenditure on de­ (^) fence in the budget for 1977-78; and

    (d) whether Government will re­ main aware of the possibility of a sudden attack and maintain defences in readiness?

    THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE Use of Atomic Energy (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) The Government of Pakistan have never 4988. SHRIMATI MRINAL GORE: reacted favourably to India's proposal for a no-war pact. Will the Minister of ATOMIC ENER­ GY be pleased to state;

    (b) Government are aware that (a) the use of atomic energy in the Pakistan has augmented her military life of Indian community; strength since 1971 and has acquired sophisticated war materials for her (b) in which particular activity armed forces. the use of atomic energy is must: and (c) The expenditure on defence in the Budget for 1977-78 was reduced (c) what benefit it has brought to with a view to implement Govt.’s the Indian community? decision to achieve economy without in any way affecting operational effi­ ciency on our defence preparedness. THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI (d) All related contingencies are MORARJI DESAI): (a) Apart from taken into account in planning our generation of electric power, the im­ defence measures. portant uses of atomic energy in rela­ tion to the life of the Indian Com­ munity lie in agriculture medicine ^ strV itrt and industry. 4^)87. ^ HWt HTTnm : (b) The use of atomic energy has had the widest impact in power % ; generation.

    (^ ) ?RT (c) Among the benefits brought by Tf^'f ^ »rif^ % JTTirfr^'t ^ the use of atomic energy, are increas­ 'TK ^ Tft I; ed power production vital to the industrial needs of the country, im­ proved varieties of seeds resulting in (if) W W ^ ’TfftrrT better yield of crops and higher resis­ «|)T wrf? ^ tance to disease and pests, and im­ ^Tsrr ^ ?r>rraT proved techniques of diagnosis and ^TT^Trr ? treatment in the field of medicine. 97 Written Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers gS

    Natlmial Hichway in O iiou to link relax the age limit for appearing in Berilamimr with Jaiimr the I.A.S. and Allied Services Exa­ 4989. SHRI SRIBATCHA DIGAL: minations for the Government ser­ Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND vants; TRANSPORT be pleased to state; (b) if so, whether Government (a) whether the survey work for have received any representation from constructing a National Highway in Government Servants in this regard; the State of Orissa to link Berhampur and with Jaipur via Baliguda, has been (c) what is the decision arrived at complt'ttd; in this regard? (b) if so, whether it has not yet THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ been implemented; and FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): (c) it so, the reasons thereof? (a) No, Sir. THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI (b) and (c). There have been some MORARJI DESAI) : (a) to (c). Pre­ representations from certain Govern­ sumably the Hon’ble Member is refer­ ment Servants requesting for relaxa­ ring to link Berhampur (Ganjam tion in the upper age limit for ap­ District) with Jeypore ( Dis­ pearing in the I.A.S. and Allied Ser­ trict) via Baliguda through a Natio­ vices examinations conducted annual­ nal Highway. The Orissa Govern­ ly by the UPSC. However, Govern­ ment had included in their proposals ment do not consider it necessary to for additions to the existing National grant any relaxation in the age limit Highway system in the Fifth Plan in favour of Government Servants. the following two roads: TTEThr 3 1 ^ 34 % (a) Angul-Tikarpara - Phulbani- Baliguda - Tunmuribandh- Maniguda - Kamatalpeta - Koraput Road, 49 91. sft : fqr ^ fqr (b> Gopalpur - Berhampur - As- ka - Daringbadi - Baliguda - : Tumuribandh - Rampur - Amat - Titilagarh - Kliariar - (^ ) W Tr»TT«r 31 Nawapara - Raipur Road. 34 ^ ^ qr Had these two roads been accepted Berhampur and Jeypore would have been connected via Baliguda. ^ ^ However, it has not been possible sR w r ir ; to accept these proposals since, due to financial stringency, the Government (^ ) w i TTvnmr 31 ^ of India are unable to undertake any % THimt 34 expansion of the existing National Highway system at present. % % 5frf^-?mTT Age limit for appearing in I.A.S. and allied services examinations (>t) W »TRT 4990. SHRI S. B. PATIL; Will the # yYc sztPTR ^ ^ETT RTT5T Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: it ^ TTsnrnff ^ (a) whether there is a proposal W srtp: ^ tT^ sftf 3iT% | under Government’s consideratfon to 5fr fJTTwrm f ? i m LS—4. 99 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 100

    iw m lihmNt Iw rt): trooics Commission is coioposed oC persons standing in Electronics and (ip) % (»r). HRW ^TT«PTT ^ fwfp; senior officials of Government. Prof.

    ITT ^ «T+r< % ^ r - M.G.K. Menon is the Chairman of the Commission; and Lt. Gen. K. S. s^-^fe^-^rmr irnr % htvi Garewal, Chairman, Coal India Limi­ ted, Calcutta; Shri A. S. Rao, Mana­ ^ ?FT% % miTFZT ging Director, Electronics Corporation Jr ^ ^ ^THT STF^T I I of India Limited, Hyderabad; Shri V. Shankar, Principal Secretary to Prime iTf qtsr^P TT3JT ?TfT ^ WPT ^>TT Minister; Shri C. R. Subramaniam, ?rk Chairman and Managing Director, Bharat Electronics Limited, Bangalore, T I^ ^ t11 ^ are the members of the Commission. 5r ? iw ?: % Tm ^ Shri P. J. Fernandes is the Member (Finance) of the Commission. The ^ I ? Chairman, who is also the Secretary Grant of licences by Electronics to in the De­ Commission partment of Electronics, and the 4992. DR. MURLI MANOHAR Member (Finance), who is the Fin­ JOSHI: Will the Minister of ELEC­ ance Secretary to the Government of TRONICS be pleased to state: India, and Shri V. Shankar are full­ time Government officials. All other (a) the names, qualifications emolu­ members of the present Commission ments and terms of appointment of are part-time Members; they receive the present Board of Directors includ­ no remuneration from Government for ing the Chairman of Electronics Com­ their membership, except travel and mission; living expenses in connection with the work of the Commission. The service (b) the number of applications re­ conditions of the Members of the ceived by the Electronics Commission Electronics Commission are basically for grant of licence in the past two those which apply to the Atomic years and the number of licences Energy and Space Commissions also. granted out of those; and

    (c) the total investment in the diffe­ (b) As the executive arm of the rent companies and net profit or loss Electronics Commission, the Depart­ incurred by these companies collec­ ment of Electronics is also the ad­ tively each of the years in the past ministrative ministry for the electro­ five years? nics Industry and in that capacity the Department deals with applica­ THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI tions for industrial licences/small MORARJI DESAI) : (a) The Elec- scale approvals. During the year ^ l e i Written Answers SRAVANA S, 1899 (SAKA) Written Anmovrs i 62

    1975-76, the number of licences issued is as below:— ------

    Year A p p lica ­ Letters of Intent Issued Industrial Licences issued tions out of col. 3 received in 1975 Till date 1975 till date

    I 2 3 4 5 6

    1975 87 34 49(addl. 15) 2 I2(addl. 10)

    1976 . • 76 23 33(addl. 10) 3 4(addl. I)

    the mast erected. The equipment is (c) There are two public sector now under installation. corporations under the administrative control of the Department of Elec­ (c) It is likely to be commissioned tronics, viz. the Electronics Trade & before the end of this year. Technology Development Corporation Limited (ETTDC), and the Computer Maintenance Corporation (CMC). Expenditureoh Badarpur ThermjJ Uptil now the total investment made Power .Project in these two corporations is Rs. 70 lakhs (Rs. 35 lakhs equity and the 4994. SHRI S. R. DAMANI: WiU the rest loan) and Rs. 53 lakhs (Rs. 26.50 Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state; lakhs equity and rest loan) respec­ tively. ETTDC, which started func­ (a) the stagewise generating capa­ tioning in October, 1974, earned a net city created and expenditure incurred profit of Rs. 7.43 lakhs in 1974-75, and on the Badarpur Thermal Power Pro­ Rs. 4.17 lakhs in 1975-76. CMC com­ ject and the time taken to commis­ menced its operations only during the sioning at each stage; and currt'nt year i.e. 1977-78.

    (b) whether there are proposals to T. V. Centre at Sambalpur, Orissa create additional capacity and, if so, full details including cost and time 4993. SHRI GANANATH PRA- factor for completion? DHAN: Will the Minister of INFOR­ MATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN): (a) (a) the steps so far taken by Gov­ and (b). Stage I of Badarpur Thermal ernment to set up a Television Centre Power Project comprises of 3 units of at Sambalpur, Orissa; 100 MW each. Revised estimated cost of this stage of the Project is Rs. 59.87 (b) the progress made in this res­ crores. The expenditure incurred upto pect; and end of June 1977 is Rs. 59.66 crores. The preliminary Civil works on first (c) the probable date of its commis­ stage were started in early 1968 a n d sioning? main Civil Works were taken up in the first quarter of 1969. The first, THE MINISTER OF INFORMAL second and third units of 100 MW each TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI were commissioned in July, 1973, Au­ L. K. ADVANl): (a) and (b). The gust 1974 and March 1975 respective­ building work has been completed and ly. 103 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 104

    Stage II of the Project envisages installation of one unit of 210 MW at 2. ^ 40 an estimated cost of Rs. 66.40 crores. 3. 593 The construction of this unit was tak­ en up in June, 1974 and the unit is 4. «frwl- ^ expected to be comniiission'ed by Fe­ 104 bruary, 1978. The expenditure incur­ red upto June, 1977 comes to Rs. 41.47 5. 13 crores.

    Stage III Of the Project envisages installation of one more unit of 210 {m) srwr, Mw HWft MW. This proposal is estimated to % i%cT f^TfTHT % ^ cost Rs. 64.19 crores and is expected to yield benefits towards the middle ^ I I srsTR^rmzr- of Sixth Plan.. ^ ^ % f^(T ftffw «T+Kl- ( ^ f j f ) ^ ^TT3^TTT fViH ^ I

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    (’t) Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: ^nft 19,25,000 (a) whether Hindustan Photo Films 2, 00,000 Manufacturing Company Limited have been selling their products through o sto ^ appointed agents; (b) the total commission paid to the % ^TTqrfw ^ agents yearly; 8240,00 (c) the reasons for appointing the agents instead of selling the products ift^T 29,49,000 directly; and (d) whether Government oropose to discontinue the agents immediately. (^ ) ir^o trjTo €to STTO THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY jriTr vCT?r, p f , ttszrt (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a), (c) and (d). In the initial stages Hin­ Wk=Fr, aFTRT, ^ w k ^MI1>i*I ^ 11 dustan Photo Films was concentrating 107 Written Answers JULY 27, 1»77 Written Answers loS

    on its manufacturing activities and ( ^ ) VTTvnTaHT had, therefore, to arrange for the dis­ tribution of its products through pri­ ^ |?rr I ; vate agencies who had the necessary marketing expertise. It had, howe­ ver, all along being the Company’s endeavour to develop its own market­ ing and sales organisations with a view to ultimately taking over direct distribution of all its products. The (w) Committee on Public Undertakings (1973-74) in its 55th report on the working of the company had also re- con:anended that the company should consider the feasibility of taking over ;nftn («ft 3irsf : direct distribution of its products after (^) % («r) 5rr the expiry of the arrangements then in force till June 1975. As the com­ I ?HTT TT pany was not fully geared to under­ take direct supplies immediately, a SfT^Pft I beginning was made by it with direct supplies of cine films to the Films Di­ Closure of Shoe Manufacturing Units vision of the Ministry of Information in Agra and Broadcasting and X-ray films to 4999. SHRI YADVENDRA DUT: Government Departments, Defence Services and select hospitals from SHRI MANORANJAN January 1976. It has also decided to BHAKTA; take over direct distribution of all cine Will the Minister of INDUSTRY, be products from 1st October, 1977, and pleased to state: the remaining products (namely medi­ cal X-ray film, Eimateur roll films, (a) whether a large number of photographic paper etc.) from 1st house-hold small units manufac­ July, 1978. turing shoes have closed in Agra, (b) The total commission paid to rendering 50,000 people unemploy­ the distributors during the last three ed; and years is as under;— (b) if so, what steps are Govern­ 1974-75 Rs. I • 11 crores ment going to take to get these units opened and thus save 50,000 workers 1975-76 Rs. I ‘ 89 crores from unemployment^ 1976 77 Rs. 2-27 crores THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) y iOSIMi As a result of Government of India (Department of Revenue & Banking) Notification dated 9th May, 1977 foot- 4998. s n m : ^ wares manufactured by small units on' behaU of big manufacturers aflixing big manufacturers’ brand names were ( ^ ) spiT deemed to have been manufactured by such big manufacturers. Consequent­ ly, such small units attracted the ex­ cise duty and were adversely affect­ ed. However, the figure of 50,000 per­ sons said to have been unemployed is 3|TI|^ ; on the very high side. 109 ^ntten Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers n o

    (b) Instructions have been recently ?rr^ rft % ?jf«T!T>^ issued to ensure that the duty on such IT?TTJir footwares is paid by big manufacture­ ^ TTtr % spT^q- ^ «r> I rs and not by small units. iErr!T>r ^

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    Research by BARC in DesigrninrMI bI Northern India during the great war Nuclear Reactor using Fuel derived of 1914 and thereafter, leader of the from Beach Sands of Kerala Indian Independence League in S.E. Asia during the Second World War; 5002. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: Will the Minister of ATOMIC ENER­ (b) whether the Government assur­ GY be pleased to state: ed the House that cteps would be taken to acquire the building at (a) whether the Bhabha Atomic Chandni Chowk from where Rash Research Centre is doing research in Behari Bose hurled bomb against designing a minj nuclear reactor using Lord Hardinge in 1912 in days when a new kind of fuel derived from the capital of India was shifted from Beach Sands of Kerala;. Calcutta to Delhi; and

    (b) if so, main features thereof; (c ) if so. steps taken or will be and taken to preserve the memory of in the Chandni (c) at what stage is this research Chowk area of Delhi? now and when it is likely that this kind of nuclear reactor will be made and put to use in India? THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): (a) THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI No, Sir. MORARJI DESAl): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) No, Sir. (b) and (c). A mini research reac­ tor using the new fuel U233 is being (c) The question of acquiring the designed by the Bhabha Atomic Re­ house and the place in old Delhi from search Centre at Trombay. The U233 where the late Shri Rash Behari Bose is produced by exposing thorium rods threw a bomb on Lord Hardinge has to a high neutron flux in the core of been considered in consultation with a nuclear reactor. The cheit'ical the Delhi Administration. It has been separation of the ‘ breed"’ uranium-233 decided not to go in for acquisition of is in a fuel reprocessing plant the buildings, but the suggestion of the and its refabrication into fuel ele ­ Delhi Administration that u suitable ments for use in reactors is an im­ plaque be put up at an appropriate portant step in the utilisation of the place near the scene from where the country’s vast thorium reserves. The bomb was thrown has been accepted. Fast Breeder Test Reactor in which it is proposed to “breed” Uranium 233 in larger quantities is under construction Atrocities on Harijans in Village at Kalpakkam. Pathada, P. S. Shambhuganj

    5004. SHRI M. SATYANARAYAN Honouring the Memory of Late Rash RAO: Will the Minister of HOME AF­ Behari Bose FAIRS be pleased to state:

    5003. SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Will (a) whether the landlords of village the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be Pathada, P. S. Shambhuganj in Bha- pleased to state: galpur District, Bihar forcibly took about 40 Harijans including women (a) whether Congress Government to a school building and beat them gave assurance to the Lok Sabha for mercilessly in a locked room causing taking suitable steps for honouring serious injuries to them on the 19th the memory of late Rash Behari Bose, June, 1977 on their refusal to work the great revolutionary leader of ua bonded labour; and 113 Written Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 114

    (b) if so, whether any arrest has but have since been discharged. Each been made in this connection and fur­ of the injured persons has been given ther st^s taken by Government? a grant of Rs. 100 by the District THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ Magistrate towards medical expenses. FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): (a) All the Harijans of the village have and (b). According to information re­ been granted two weeks rations. A ceived from the Government of Bihar, magistrate and a Police party have on 19th June, 1977, about twenty to been deputed in the village for main­ twenty-five landlords of village Pa- taining law and order and giving pro­ thada under Police Station Amarpur tection to the Harijans. The officer- in District Bhagalpur went to the in-charge, Amarpur Police Station Harijan Toli and asked the Harijan has been transferred and suspended. labourers to con-.e for work in their The Assistant Sub-Inspector, Phuli- fields. The labourers had earlier stop­ tumar Outpost has also 'been suspend­ ped working as they were not l eing ed. Disciplinary proceedings have paid minimum wages. When the Ha- been instituted against both of them. rijans still refused to come for work unless minimum wages were paid, the landlords started beating the Hari- jans with lathis and dragged them Marketing of Tractors by out of their houses. They bound a Pinjore few of them with ropes, took them round the village and forcibly took 5005. SHRI G. NARSIMHA REDDY: them to the local middle school, where Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be they were detained and beaten. Ele­ pleased to state: ven Harijans including five women sustained injuries as a result of the beating. The information of the inci­ (a) the nature of marketing arran­ dent was conveyed by the Vice Pre­ gements made by the HMT, Pinjore sident Kisan Sabha, Bhagalpur to the for the sale of Zetor Tractors through­ District Magistrate on 22-6-1977, who out the country during last 3 years; after getting preliminary inquiries and the annual expenditure incurred made by two officials, visited the spot for this purpose; along with the Superintendent of Po­ lice, Bhagalpur and the Deputy Chief (b) the nature of marketing organi­ Medical Officer, Bhagalpur. The De­ sation involved in different regions puty Chief Medical Officer found that and the areas for selling these trac­ the Harijans had been beaen up mer­ tors; and cilessly. It was also found that some belongings of the Harijans had been (c) whether any complaints were taken away by the landlords. A case received in recent dayg regarding under Section 14.S/341/364/307/324/ poor quality and performance of this 452/323 and 120(B) IPC was register­ tractor, if so, the details thereof? ed on 24-6-1977 at the Police Station. Amarpur. Eighteen accused persons have been arrested out of the twenty THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY two named in the FIR. One other ac­ (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a; cused has since surrendered in court. and (b). During the last three yeari Warrants of attachment have been ob­ and over, MHT have been marketing tained against the remaining accused. their tractors through the State Agro Investigation of the case is in pro­ Industries Corporation in different gress. The DIG (Harijan Cell) and States, who were their exclusive dea­ the Assistant Superintendent of Po­ lers till 20-3-1977. Since 21-3-77, fur­ lice, Banka have also visited the spot. ther marketing outlets have been pro­ vided by appointment of dealers main­ 2. Out of the 11 injured persons, 3 ly in northern region in addition to were admitted in Hospital at Banka, the State Agro. i^ e expenditure in­ 115 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers xi6 curred by HMr on marketing during Department of Personnel and Admi­ the last three years has been as under:— nistrative Reforms.

    Year Expenditure (b) There is no separate service for Class IV employees in the Central Secretariat. Each Miinistry/Depart- 1974-75 Rs. 37 lakhs ment/Office makes its own recruit­ 1975-76 Rs. 34 lakhs ment in accordance with the general 1976-77 Rs. 32 lakhs orders issued by the CJovemment. Therefore, no information' about the (c) Yes, Sir. The complaints re­ lated to defects in some components number of Class IV employees whp of the engine and transmission sys­ have completed more than 15 years tems, mainly of tractors fitted with im­ of service is available in the Depart­ ported components. As a measure of improving quality control in produc­ ment of Personnel and Administrative tion. it has been decided to obtain Reforms. random samples of tractors manufac­ tured by individual units in both the public and private sectors and carry (c) and (d). Promotion from one out necessary tests at the Tractor grade to another is allowed only when Training & Testing Station, Budnl. there is a relation in the job contents of the two grades. There is no rela­ Promotion of Class IV Employees to tionship in the job contents of the Class III Posts categories of Clerks and Class IV em­ 5006. SHRI K. MALIANNA: Will ployees. Even so, with a view to pro­ the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be viding an opportunity to the latter for pleased to state: advancing their career, 10 per cent of (a) the number of clerkg who have vacancies in the grade of Lower Di­ completed more than 15 years service in the Central Secretariat Service; vision Clerk Of the Central Secreta­ riat Clerical Service are reserved for (b) the number of Class IV em­ ployees in the Central Secretariat them. Vacancies in this quota are Service who have completed more filled on the results of a competitive than 15 years service; examination conducted by the Subor­ (c) whether Government has con­ dinate Services Commission which is sidered the cases of Matriculate Class restricted to Class IV employees in IV employees to promote them after rendering some period to the grade the Central Secretariat, who are ma­ of Claes III (clerks); and triculates, have rendered a minimum (d) if not, the reasons thereof? of five years approved and continuous service as a Class IV employee and t h e MINISTER OF HOME AF­ FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGW: are not more than 45 years of age. (a) As the Central Secretariat Cleri­ There was a demand from the Staff cal Service was decentralised in Side to treat such appointments as and cadres are administered by the Ministries/Departments conceme^ in­ promotion. The matter is before a formation, about the number of Clerks Committee of the National Council of who have completed "--or? the Joint Consultative Machiinery. years serrice is not available in the 117 Written Answers SRAVANA 6, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers i i 8

    (b) There have been reports of un­ f n t f fsmlr fiw ro rest amongst the workers of ^ w e r stations particularly in the Eastern 5007. fW T ^ Region. There was also some unrest amongst the workers in Badarpur Thermal Power Station for a time. (^ ) ^ 5Rir^ However, the fall in generation dur­ ing the last three months cannot be f r o l it fWra" attributed wholly to the unrest amongst ^ q t ^ t : the workers as the decrease in generation was also due to a number (^i) ^ «ft ^ of other factors like demand of the system' going down with the com­ % f?riT %?stxr ?R5FTT % mencement of the monsoons, lower y^T w r JTtrfr t ; 5f k generation from the Hydro-electric power stations due to lower reservoir (^ ) zrir rlr^ -sft 5q->TT levels on account of poor inflows dur­ ^ I ? ing monsoons during last year and outages of thermal sets. ;re>T («ft Kxm r (g-). ift ;rflr I workers was reported, the concerned State Governments have been advised ( ’T) 5T?^^ ^35rTT I to have bilateral negotiations with the workers Unions on their demands to resolve the issues in a mutually sa­ Deterioration in Maintenance of tisfactory manner. All rei^esspry Power Houses .steps are also being taken to im­ 5008. SHRI KISHORE LAL: WiU prove the operation and maintenance the Minister of ENERGY be pleased of thermal generating units with a view to state: to optimising generation from the thermal stations. As regards hydro­ (a) whether power generation has electric stations, with the onset of gone down in different States during monsoons the hydel reservoirs are last three months; filling up and generation from these stations is expected to pick up. (b) whether it is due to growing un­ rest amongst the workers and conse­ quent deterioration in maintenance of Complaint against Chief Eecutive the power houses; and of M/s. Braithwaite. Bum and Jessop (c) steps being taken to improve Construction Co- Ltd. it? 5009. MISS ABHA MAITI: WUl the THE MINISTER OF ENERGY Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to (SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN); (a) state: The All India generation during the months of April, May and June this (a) whether any complaints of atro­ year has been 7315,7314 and 7168 mil­ cities, excesses, unfair labour practi­ lion units respectively as compared to ces and victimisation of Trade Union the gene/ration of 7834, 7266 and 8141 leaders against the Chief Executive of million units during the first three the Company M/s. Braithwaite, Burn months of January, February and and Jessop Construction Co. Ltd., March respectively. The total gene­ Calcutta, have been received by Got- ration during the period of April to ernment from B. B. J. Sramic Union; June has been lower than the total generation during the period of Ja­ (b) if so, whether any probe is ge- nuary to March. ing to be held into these allegations; 119 'Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 120

    (c) whether Braithwaite, Burn and Jessop Construction Co. Ltd. is con­ (*ft¥ yr?T tinuing to suffer from financial crisis; 5010. wtH snprsT w (d) if so, action Government pro­ ^ fsh ; pose to take to revive its finance and for its economic rehabilitation; and (^ ) fqi t ^ JETcRTrT (e) whether Government tjromlFed earlier to nationalise this concern, render adequate financial assistance ^ ^ I; and restructure its capital and mana­ gement; and if so, action taken to (’j ) rft ^3^ g'm implement these promises?

    THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY lirFT ?fnff sft (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. These complaints have been carefully looked i®to, and it has been found that the charges levelled against the Management and the Chief Executive are not sustain­ (^) rfr ^ ^Ttir able.

    (c) and (d). Yes. Sir. M/s. Braith­ (sft ^T»iT fiST^) : (^ ) ^ waite, Burn and Jessop Construction Co. Ltd. is chiefly a construction or-* (^ ). it % qr^ ganisation and bids for contrccta 'rat against tender notices for engineerj- 1 1 •iff, q-fe ing construction projects. The de-t' mand for its services has recently s m m % €fr’3‘5T^"t; undergone a drastic change, particu­ I ^Tt larly because of reduced scope for IT t I ^htstr ^rr railway bridges. Government are tak­ Cv *\ ing steps to ensure the viability of this ilccd'R ^ sft ^ company, and to place it on sound ^ ^TT% % f^rcr ^ footing. The company has also taken measures to effect economy in expen­ ^ ^n?FR diture. % 1 1

    (e) No promise was made by the Government to nationalise this Com­ M/s. Sharpedge Ltd. pany. The Government are, however, of the view that a satisfactory long­ 5011. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY; term financial arrangement for this Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be Company is needed for its future vi­ pleased to state; ability. The Company has been ask­ ed to submit detailed proposals for (a) whether M/s. Sharpedge Ltd. ensuring its revitalisation and these are using foreign brand name ‘Eras- proposals would inter-alia cover the mic’ for their stainless steel bladee in financial assistance required and the violation of Grovernment’s policy; changes necessary in its capital ftnd managementstructure. (b) if so, the reasons therefor; X2I Written Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 122

    (c) whether Government’s colla­ boration approval is given subject to the condition that no foreign brand/ WT ^ apT t ; trade liame belonging to the foreign collaborators or any other foreign company shall be used by the Indian WT t ? Company; and

    (d) if so, action Government pro­ : (^ ) pose to take against M/s. Sharpedge (^r). ^ I Ltd. for violating Government’s or­ ders?

    THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES); (a) to if ‘Trftifrnf’TOlf % ^ HTTiifitr (d). M/s. Sharpedge are registered with Directorate General of Technical 5013. Development for the manufacture of razor blades since January, 1970. M/s. Sharpedge had also been registered as (^ ) 1971 Registered Users of the Trade Mark ‘Erasmic’ in July, 1967 which is valid till February, 1978. They have been us. ^ Tri%

    They were approved of a foreign ( g ) sqfcRTiTf ^ t technical collaboration with Messrs ^ qt I ?rtT ^ Thibaud Gibbs, France, in June, 1973 for the Manufacture of Stainless Steel SI?? VSX |5TI I; !fk razor blades. In the approval letter, it has been stipulated that foreign {^ ) gxTTx f ^ r r jm - brand names will not ordinarily be ^ ^nrfr^'r frfr allowed for use on the products for internal sale although thereis no objec­ «FT?r t ? tion for their use on the products to be exported. Even when they applied for («ft

    Connection

    5012. ^ n 5 5014. SHRI VENUGOPAL GOUN- IT? ^ fqr ^ : DER: Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state:

    (t ) ^RT-ar^ 5TTf^ (a) whether the Chairman of Ma­ ruti Limited is connected with South 123 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 124

    India Steel and Sugars Limited Mundiampakkam, South Arcot Dis­ trict; (b) if sO, in what capacity; 5016. TTO ^ »PTT (c) whether it is a fact that an in­ criminating document purported to have been written by him to Shri (5f>) SPTT 4)'<+'!'< STETR StVT Sanjay Gandhi regarding investments in foreign banks/concerns was dis­ covered; and ft r strto (d) if so, the results of the probe t ; made, if any? ( ^ ) ^ ft, rft ?TTf«rflt % THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH); ^ w t ift wr?: I (a) Yes, Sir. Shri M. A. Chidamba­ ^ f w f t ^TfRrTT STFrT f ; ram has, however, resigned as Direc­ tor and Chairman of M/s. Maruti (^ ) 5RT Limited with effect from the 17th ?rm May, 1977. JTf srr^ ^ | ; (b) Shri M. A. Chidambaram is also tjie Chairman -Jbf M/s. South India (^ ) ft, ?ft f^rrfV ?ftT Steel and Sugars Limited, Mundiam­ s f ^ ^ ?TfTJTrrr a r o ^ pakkam, South Arcot District. {^) ^ (c) No document purported to have been written by Shri Chidambaram V to Shri Sanjay Gandhi regarding in­ : (^ ) ^ vestments in foreign bank/concern was discovered during the search of the Maruti premises. it 1 1

    (d) Does not arise. ( 1 ) ^ 9TT^'t Conversion of Adhyamankottai to ^ ll-]-I966 ^ 15,000 Hosur Major District Road into Na­ tional HWs;hway ?j o sftejTc Mil ret Hi Ra ^ % ?rr«i ^ i 5015. SHRI V. PERIASAMY: Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND ( l ) TRANSPORT be pleased to state whelher Government propose to con­ fTfTWt ?TRRT vert Adhyamankottai to Hosur major rr'R mr. 4 5-tv district road to a national highway % ?TJT?rR 10 in view of the heavy traffic on that road? apiT f> %qr SfPTT, rrm THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): No, Sir. We have ( 2 ) ^f^clT^!TT^ ?rk not received any such proposal from 'rfr^n: the Govt. of Tamil Nadu nor ? ^ e ir q-tor^n % ?reft?r does the (jovt. of India have any such proposal under consideration. ftWT ^jfPTT I 125 wnueti Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Wntten Answers u6

    ( 2) ^ ^ 0 in operation—one each in the States of Bihar, Gujarat, Karnataka, Maha­ ^ 4-1-1975% 1000 rashtra, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan 150 Uttar Pradesh and three in Andhra fsr^/^T^ 3PTT5T % Pradesh. «rnrRT«ft (b) The performance of 5 Pilot ft>?n *nrr *tt, IVtptt t^o?nTo Rural Electric Cooperative Societies which have been functioning since 4 5-1; % M W l '< 3RW 7?R 5PT IQSrfimcT 1970 has generally been satisfactory. ^ '»ft ^ firar ^PTT1 1 The remaining 5 Societies commen­ ced their operation recently and have Injustice to Contractors of Meg^balaya not completed even one year of their working. It is too early to judge 5017. SHRI P. A. SANGMA: Will their performance. the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state: Revised pension for ex-servicemen (a) whether Government are aware that a severe injustice was meted out 5019. SHRI BALDEV SINGH to a series of genuine petty contrac­ JASROrHA; Will the Minister of tors of Meghalaya who were asked to construct temporary sheds for acco­ DEFENCE be' pleased to state: mmodation of worker,3 during 1971 (a) whether Government have but were not paid at all; and sanctioned the revised pension in (b) if so, whether Government pro­ favour of ex-servicemen who retired pose to look into the matter and make after January 1, 1973; necessary payment? (b) if so, whether the pension sche­ THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE me on similar lines is under the active (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) No con.sideration of the Government of such case has come to the notice of India for ex-servicemen who retired Government. after independence; (b) Government will look into the (c) whether the service personnel matter if specific cases giving details who have been sent on reserve condi­ are furnished. tion On or after l^t of January, 1973 are in receipt of reservist pension Rs. 55/- per month; Rural Electrical Cooperative Societies fd) whether this category of pen­ 5018. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE sioners who retired before the 1st PATIL: Will the Minister of ENERGY January, 1973 are getting more pen­ be pleased to state: sion i.e. Rs. 65/- and Rs. 70/- per month; ■ ' (a) how many rural electrical co­ (e) whether reservist,-; are neither operative societies are functioning in given effect of the ad hoc relief san­ the country; please indicate the num­ ctioned in favour of the pensioners ber State-wise; and retired prior to 1st January^ 1973 nor (b) are they running successfully; new pension code made applicable to if not, the reasons therefor? them as has been done in respect of other pensioners; and THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN): (.i) (f) whether this disparity has crea­ Ten Rural Electric Cooperative ted discontentment amongst reser­ Societies financed by the Rural Elec­ vists pensioners who retired on or trification Corporation are at present after 1st January, 1973? 127 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 128

    THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (b) No. Sir. (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) Yes, Sir. (c) to (f). A Statement is attached.

    Statement (i) Reservist pensioners who retired prior to 1.4.68 and 1.1.73 are at present in receipt of a total sum of Rs. 65/- and R's. 70/- p.m. respectively, as under

    Those who Those who retired prior retired from to 1-4-68 1-4-68 but prior to 1-1-73

    Rs. p.m. Rs. p.m.

    (1) Pen'iion . 10 15

    (2) Ad-hoc Increase 15 15

    (3) Ad-hoc Relief 15 15

    (4) Periodic Relief 25 25

    65 70 •

    (ii) The revision of the rates of ptin- Purchase of Aircraft from Rosafai sion of Reservists who retired on or after 1.1.73 has been under considera­ 5020. SHRI SURAJ BHAN: Will the tion of the Government and pending Minister o f DEFENCE be pleased to a decision they were entitled to a lotal state: sum of Rs. 55/r-p.m. as they ware not entitled to the ad-hoc relief of Rs. 1.5/­ (a) whether Government of India p.m. referred to at (3) above, whioh is had purchased large number of A.N. admissible only to those pensioners who 12 aircraft from Russia; retired prior to 1.1.73. (b ) if so, how m a n y , and how m a n y (iii) The Government have now de­ Of those are serviceable at present; cided to enhance the pension of reser­ vists to Rs. 50/. p.m. with effect from (c) whether there is any problem 1.1.73. In addition, they will get the about iipare parts and engine over­ periodic relief sanctioned by G'>vern- hauling? ment from time to time after this date. Necessary orders will be issued shortly. (d) whether the serviceability of Taking into account the revised pen­ these aircrafts is very low at pre­ sion of Rs. 50/- and the reliefs, they sent; and are at present entitled to a total sum of Rs. 75/- p.m. as against Rs. 65/- and (e) what steps Government are tak­ Rs. 70/- p.m. admissible tothose reser­ ing to make these aircrafts service­ vists who retired prior to 1-4-68 and able? 1-1-73, respectively. Thus the anomaly which has existed so far will be re­ THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE moved. Arrears of pension will be (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) to (e). admissible. Government have purchased some AN- 129 Written Answers SRAVANA B, 1B99 (SAKA) Written Answers 13®

    12 aircraft firora USSR. There are no (c) if so, particulars of tiie assistan­ problems regarding spare parts and ce propos^ to be rendered for deve­ engine ovetitauling and the service­ lopment of the District? ability of the aircraft is satisfactory. The normal steps for maintenance are being taken which are keeping the air­ THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI MORARJI DESAI); (a) to (c). There craft serviceable. is no scheme for declaring a district as “backward’’ for entitlement to Central Price of Coal before and after Natloa- assistance. Certain incentives are, alisation however, being offered for promotion of industries in selected “industrially 5021. SHRI BUOY SINGH NAHAR: backward” districts. The following Will the Minister of ENERGY be criteria were recommended as guide please to state: lines to the State Governments and the Administrations of Union Territories for (a) the price of coal before and the identification of industrially back­ after nationalisation of coal mines in ward districts to qualify for concession­ India; and al finance from the all-India term- (b) steps Government propose to lending institutions; take to reduce the price of coal? (i) Per capita foodgrains/commer- THE MINISTER OF lENERGY (SHRI cial crops production depending on whether the district is predominently P. RAMACHANDRAN): (a> The aver­ a producer of foodgrains/cash crops. age coal price before nationalisation was Rs. 37.42 per tonne. The average (For inter-district comparisons con­ version rates between foodgrains and price during the period 1-4-74 to 30-6-75 commercial crops may be determined was Rs. 47.42 per tonne. Since 1-7 75 by the State Government on a pre­ *the average price is Rs. 64.92 per determined basis where necessary), tonne. (ii) Ratio of population to agricul­ ' (b) The price of coal is fixed by tural workers. Government after taking into accoimt the cost of inputs such as labour wages, (iii) Per capita industrial output materials, equipments and overheads. (gross). The Coal Companies have been ad­ vised to observe maximum economy in (iv) Number of factory employees expenditure and to achieve higher per lakh of population or alternative­ levels of productivity to lower costs of ly number of persons engaged In production. secondary and teritiary activities per lakh of population.

    Conditions governing the dec/aration (v) Per capita consumption o f of diMrlct aa Backward District a electricity. 5022. SHRI V. S. ELAN CHEZHiAN: Will the Minister of PLANNING be (vi) Length of surfaced roads in pleased to state: relation to population or railway mileage in relation to population. (a) the conditions governing the declaration of a district as backward district for entitlement to Central 2. On this basis 247 districts have assistance; been selected as “industrially back­ ward” and are eligible for concessional > (b) whether Government propose finance. Industries in these districts to treat Pudukotiah district to Tamil are also eligible for certain Income-tax Nadu as backward district; and reliefs for a specified period. I'.'PS LS—5. I3X ■ Written Answtrg JULY 27. 1977 Written Answers 132

    S. Uut of these districts, 101 districts/ Poivluse «r satellite ‘areas’ (@6 districts/'areas’ from each o f the States identified as industrially 5024. SHRI MOHAN LAL PIPIL: backward and 3 districts/'areas’ from WiU the Minister of SPACE be pleased ■each of the other States and Union to 8tat«; Tetritories) have been selected to quidify also for the Central Scheme of (a) whether the Government of Investment Subsidy. Further, applica­ India have recently decided to pur­ tions from small scale industries in chase a satellite; and these selected districts/'areas’ for im­ port of raw materials and components, (b) if so, the eetimated cost thereof, and also for machines on hire-purchase the purpose it is likely to serve and ierms, are considered on a priority the country from which it is proposed basis under the current Import Policy to be purchased? «nd under the hire-purchase scheme of National Small Industries Corporation. THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) Yes sir. G v- 4. Pudukotiah (Pudukkottai) district ernment has approved implementatioa •of Tamil Nadu State has already been of the Indian National Satellite selected as industrially backward to (INSAT) System. iqiialify for concessional finance. Fur­ ther, one of the 3 ‘areas’ of Tamil Nadu (b) The total cost of the project ■State selected to qualify for the Central has been estimated at Rs. 173 crores. scheme of Investment Subsidy includes Initially the system will be used -4 Talukas of Pudukkottai district, {viz., mainly for telecommunications and Pudukkottai, Thirumayam, Alamgudi meteorology. The choice of a Satel­ and Kulathur Taluks). lite, cost and from where it is to be purchased are yet to be finalised. News Hem eapilened "Electronics Licensiiic:: MNCS by passing: curbs” Bridge over Ganga River 5023. SHRI G. M. BANATWALIJV: WiU the Minister of ELECTRONICS be pleased to state: 5025. SHRI JANESHWAR MISHRA: WiU the Minister of SHIPPING .(vND (a) whether the attention of Gov­ TRANSPORT be pleased to state: ernment has been drawn to the front page report the newspaper “The (a) whether the late Shri Lai Baha­ Economic Times” dated the 14th July, dur Shastri had laid foundation stone 1977 by its special correspondent un- of a bridge over Ganga river at Alla­ ^er the caption “Electronics licen­ habad in 1965 and the estimated cost sing: MNCS by passing curbs” re­ was Rs. 3.75 crores; garding serious loopholes in the licen­ sing rules which multinational com­ (b) whether an expenditure of panies exploit to the detriment of more than 2 crores of rupees has been small-scale units; and shown thereon upto 31st March, 1970 (b) if so, the reaction of Govern­ by the department; ment thereto? (c) whether no work had been THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI started for the construction of the MORARJI DESAI): (a) Yes, Sir. bridge upto 31st March, 1970 and con­ struction work was not completed till (b) Two cases have come to notice now and an e^cpenditure of more than and show-cause notices are being issued 7 crores of rupees has already been in both casss. incurred thereon; ■33 Written Aiuioen SRAVANA 5, lBt9 (SAKA) Written Anstoers 134

    (d| if so, whether Goverament vn>~ (c) whether the promotion chances pose to conduct an enquiry into all tiie of'tiie regular Ssuninccs aad. Asstt. irregfalarities; and Examiners have been adversely aff­ (e) when the construction of the ected- the absorptioqi' of the ad hoc bridge would be completed? staff; and THE PRIME MINISTEll (SHRI (d) whether any representations MDRARJI DESAI): (a) Yes Sir; but the have beea received from the regular estimated cost of two-lane bridge over hands and, if so, what action has Ganga at Allahabad sanctioned m b e ^ taken in the matteir? November 1964 was Rs. 225.47 lakhs. THE MINISTER OP DEFENCE ■(b) No Sir. (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) Yes, (c) The work on the two-lane bridge Sir. was started in March 1968. Snbse- (b) Yes, Sir. On termination of their

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    (*r) ^5TT |[T^*T % dcl *rR%' ^ to increase in cost of Power 5rt^ 5^ ^ #TT «rr ; ?rk 5029. SHRI CHAUDHARY MOTI- BHAIR: WiU the Minister of ENERGY (^) qf? eft ^ ^ be pleased to state: f?R R ?T3r ^ (a) whether the cost of power has 3rhr 5^ ^ 5T*iff ^ gone up as a result of which agri­ ^nrmr ^ ? cultural production will be adversely affected; and (b) if so, whether immediate action ^f

    (»r) ^ (^). if, ^ I state Governments and in accordance with the criteria laid down in the irfev rfW Statutes and Rules governing the 'TK ? n : ^ ^ ^ Medal;

    5TdCS 5|ft 1-9-75 V^yx. 9-9-75 (c) Shri Panchu Gopal Mukherjee qr, ^ 5 ^ ^ srhr was awarded the Police Medical for Meritorious Service, on the occasior of ^ ^ ferr I ^T^rTpT, *17^517 Republic Day, 1972 on the recom­ 3rr^ sjjrt ^"t ^ ^ mendation of the West Bengal Gov­ % f^iT fe n w 1 1 ernment.

    Conferring of Police Medals Recruitment in Defence Services 5031. SHRI ROBIN SEN: Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be 5032. SHRI DURGA CHAND: Will pleased to state: the Minister of DEFENCE be plea.'?ed to state: (a) what criteria are followed by the Government in awarding police (a) what is the height required for medal to the police officers; a Dogra for recruitment in defence services as compared to that of (b) whether conferring such awards on police officer, any recoromenda- Gorkha; tion is necessary from the State Gov­ (b) whether representations are ernment where the police officer is made to make the height of Dogra at serving at the time of conferring par with Gorkha for defence ser­ awards; and vices; and (c) the basis on which, police (c) if so, what action hasbeen medal was conferred on Shri Panchu taken thereon? Gopal Mukherjee, I.P.S., when he was D.I.G. Burdwan Range, West THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE Bengal? (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) to (c). THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ The position in regard to the mini­ FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): mum height requirement for recruit­ (a) and (b). The Police Medal is ment of and Gorkhas belo'*’ ■awarded on the recommendation of officer’s level is as follows:—

    Army Navy Air Force

    Prior to With eflfect 1-5-1977 from 1-5-1977

    Dogras 162 cms 168 cms 157 cms 152 -5 cms

    <}orkhas 152 cms 158 cm® 157 cms *52 '5 cms relaxable to 152 cms 139 Written Answers JULY m, 1977 WHtten Jtnxmy&a 140 The height standard prevalent in the rural dectrifleation in Tribal districts: Army prior to 1-5-1977 io r Ooifras o f ‘‘(iJrisffi &s under:— and the Gorkhas has been revised f.roro 162 cms and 152 cms, respectively, to Name of district Number of 168 cms and 158 cms, respectively, schemes with effect from 1-5-1977 as an ex­ sanctioned perimental measure for a period of six months. The physical standards in­ cluding height standard of recruits for Balasote ■ ■ • I enrolment in the Army are based on Keonjhar • • 4 anthropometric study of available re­ cruits of different racio-ethnic groups Koraput • 13- in the country. As a' result of a recent Sundergarh ■ • 2 study carried out of the available re­ cruits, it was reveeded that there has Mayurghunj • • 5. been a general improvement in the Phulbani physical standards, specially the • 3 height standard, of the available re­ cruits in the country. It is in this Total • • 28 context that the height has been raised upwards. (c) The rural electrification schemes A representation has been received sanctioned by the Rural Electrification requesting for reverting back to the Corporation are phased for completion height standard of Dogras as prevalent over a period ranging upto 5 years before 1st May 1977 and not for parity from commencement. The loans are with Gorkhas in this matter. A deri­ released in instalments. The corpora­ sion in this regard is proposed to be tion had disbursed Rs. 1.66 crores to taken on the basis of experience during the Orissa State Electricity Board dur­ the experimental period of six month?. ing 1976-77 for schemes sanctioned by it in. Tribal districts of Orissa. Rural Electrification Schemes for An amount of Rs. 3.11 crores is dae Tribal Districts of Orissa for disbursement during 1977-78; of this, Rs. 52 lakhs have already been 5033. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO; disbursed. Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state; (d) 197 agricultural pumpsets had. been energised and 50 small industries (a) whex’ner the Ministry sanction­ had been set up in 761 villages un'Je.’ ed the Rural Electrification schemes these schemes upto 31-3-1977. in the tribal districts of Orissa; (b) if so, the names of the districts of with the number of schemes sanction­ Project (Report for Developm*nt Scheduled Castes in Orissa ed; (c) amount released in the year 5034. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO: 1976-77 and proposed to be provided Will th-3 Minister of HOME AFFAIRS for the year 1977-78; and be pleased to state;

    (d) the progress and achievement (a) whether proposals or project made, so far? reports have been received for the development of Scheduled Castes in Orissa; • ■THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHW P. RAMACHANDRAN); (a) and ib>. (b) if so, the amount released in: The Rural Electrification Corporation 1976-77 for the developmental has sanctioned so far 28 schemes for schemes of Scheduled Castes; and 141 Written Answew SRAVAMA 5, 18§9 (SAKA) Written AnnJoer* I42

    (c) the sohamts «ubmttted by the Fifth #ive Year Plan of Orissa. During State for Scheduled Castes for the 1976-77 an allocation of Rs. 20.90 lakhs year 1977-78? was made in the State Plan tor I Scheduled Castes which is financed on THtt MINISTER OF HOME AF­ the basis of block grants and block FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): loans. A provision of Rs. 19.30 l^kbs (a) to (c). Welfare schemes for th# has been for the following schemes Scheduled Castes have been included during iW.7-78:— in the Backward Classes Sector of

    [Name of the Scheme Allocation for the Physical targets for the year 1977-78 year 1977-78 CRs. Lakhs)

    (i) Area development Scheme—Land 2-25 Continuance of two projects reclamation, agricultural input and starting one new such assistance. scheme.

    1 (2) Subsidy for crafts and cottage 065 120 families will be bentfittd^ industries and self employment scheme.

    (3) Industrial training including I 50 300 trainees will be bemfited. training in shorthand and type­ writing.

    (4) Scholarships 9 -oo'| 68,500 trainees will be benefited.

    (5) Reading and writing materials 500J

    (6) Construction of hostel 0-90 Coirpletion of six incomplete hostels.

    Total 19-30

    In addition, grants are also given to the States Government for the Scheduled Castes under the Centrally Sponsored Schemes of Post-matric Scholarships, girls hostel and DK-exa- minations training centre. '

    Project Report for DeveIoi»ment of (c) if not, the steps proposed to be Backward Tribes in Orissa taken to get the reports from the 5035. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO: Government of Orissa for the project Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS i>eport? be pleased to state; (a) whether the project reports for THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ the development ©f niost backward FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): and primitive tribes in Orissa, the Dangania Kandhs of Niyamgiri (B. (a) to (c). Project reports on the Don- CJuttack), Lanjia Savara of Pattasingi gria Kondhs of Niyamgiri, Lanjia (Gunupur) and Bendas of Malkani- Saoras of Puttasingi and Bondas of giri have been received; Malkangiri h av e not been received.

    (b) if so, whether the reports has The State Government have been .isked been finalised; and to expedite these reports. 143 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answets 144

    Cencesaloiia to SmaU IScal* Units Import of mctiire Ttabes by Electronics prodndng TV Sets Trade and Teohnology Develfvment Corporation 5036. SHRI S. G. MURUGAIYAN: WiU the Minister of ELECTRONICS 5038. SHRI S. G. MURUGAIYAN: be pleased to states: WiU the Minister of ELECTRONICS be pleased to state: (a) whether Government have seen press reports that small scale units (a) the reasons why foreign ex­ in T.V production are producing 4,000 change is being used for import of sets per month and are having a picture tubes by ETTDC when there turnover of 10 crores or so; and is an indigenous production of pic­ ture tubes; and (b) whether there is a proposal tinder consideration to offer any con­ (b) the reasons why equalisation of cessions to these units as small scale price structure reducing the price of units? picture tubes is not attempted? THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI THE PRIME MINISTER (SMRI MORARJI DESAI):(a) According to, MORARJI DESAI): (a) The two in­ information available with Govern­ digenous manufacturers of T. V. ment one small scale manufacturer ture Tubes are not able to fully rneot has produced more than 4,000 televi- the demand for T.V. Picture Tubes at 'Sion sets per month in December ’76 the present time. The gap between and January ’77. demand and supply is being met by imports arranged through Electronics itb) The unit concerned is registered Trade & Technology Development Cor­ cis a small scale unit, and there is mo poration. proposal for granting to this unit any concession not normally available to (b) The equalisation of prices of im­ small scale units in general. ported and indigenously manufactured T.V. Picture Tubes is being attempted. Recommendation of Maiathe Commit­ The price of picture tubes imported tee on Cost of Strncture in T.V. by Electronics Trade & Tefinnology Industry Development Corporation has been fixed at Rs. 375/- (as recommended 5037. SHRI S. G. MURUGAIYAN: by the Marathe Panel); the price of Will the Minister of ELECTRONICS indigenously 51 cm picture tube has be pleased to state: been reduced by the manufacturers to Rs. 405/-. f (a) whetherGovernment have ac­ cepted the recommendations of ISIarathe Committee onthe cost struc- inn Jwre in T.V. industry; and

    (b) if so, how the lowering of 503 9. «ft price from Rs. 1800 to Rs. 1600 is justified? ^ fTTT ^ ftr :

    THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI (^ ) TMI ^ <*n MORARJI DESAI): (a) Yes, Sir. 1976 (b) The Marathe Panel on the Cost anu 5^ ^ tjJigrR f w *nrr and Price Structure of the T. V. Receiver Industry had concluded tliat ^K^STfdSId ^ pTaf- simple, functional T. V. sets of 51 cm fccT ^ % siTR ftqr w «rr ; screen size could be produced during 1977-78 at an ex-factory price of ( « ) JTfr 5ft Jls. 1600. 345 Written Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 146

    (»r) ^ ^ snpff after aue enquiry. Later, a group of workers gheraoed the senior officers of ^ ^ ^ *rf Tiftr «Pt the Corporation and assaulted them f^TEiWi * w a m f w causing bleeding injuries; one of the officers was rendered unconscious and t « r k 5T^, 5ft *rsT|[^ siTTJr % could not get timely medical aid. There was, thus, no ground for any dispute. The acts of violence were instigated »hft (ssf(

    THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI (»r) JTHT «ik q% ; MORARJI DESAI); (a) A lock-out was declared in the Uranium Corpora­ («r) ^ tion of India Ltd. Jaduguda with t ^ ^ 5RTT t ; effect from 27th June (Monday) and was lifted on July 4, 1977 (Monday) (S=) ffRT ^ on restoration of normal conditions. ^ WT siftTr WT I? (b) The lock-out was forced on the management as a section of the ^ '«rTBr ftu r ): (*f) ^ workers indulged in acts of violence, ( 3: ) , inp?r ^ ^ 7 ^ t ?mr in timidation, gherao and assault on JT«rT w r 'TT ■??? i t i the senior officers of the Corporation on 25th June 1977 (Saturday). The facts of the case are that a worker who had lost his lien on his appointment 5f arsnnfir % due to unauthorised absence insisted gfiwrnf % f?n? smm-«T9r on joining duty. He was asked to wait till the shift allocation was completed 5042. sft wraaft vnf: so that a decision could be taken in *1^ ^ 5 TT Pp : the matter. However, the worker along with two others assaulted the mine {^ ) VTT zr? snmnr; officials. The aggrieved worker was also assured that he will be reinstated 147 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 14B-

    ^ WRTj% lih: iinfif ^nftw w % jlm ^ 3ft ^ i , *rt: t W *hl<*1 % SijpRT mrfr ^ ^fw irt iTrd ?rwr Jr ^Rarrfir tt snTr>r- ^ ® i^ «»rt armt I 3ft % srr^ ^ ^ srrn: frmft t «fk ?nr ffWT ^zr t| f ; trtr VTTf^ gnfiwlr t »rfij^Rd ^'t snfW % 1 1 (V) *rf? 5T, ?fr ^ ?n:+TT *t)'r4^i'^ ^ Idukki Hydel Project

    5044. SHRI K. A. RAJAN: Will ij^ ^T»r ftn ? ): ( t ) ^ the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state; ( ^ ) . t ^ sFTsrTi^ irf t I m : (a) the present position in regard to the Idukki Hydel Project in Coimba­ ftwft Jr 3rr% % f^'t sjrf^ tore District, Tamil Nadu; % ?T^^[f^cT '»l'i4lla SfHiyl 'T5T STT^ (b) the amount invested so Jar, the ^ ST??T I amount proposed to be invested and the time-schedule proposed for the completion of the Project; and i* 5!nf^ % (c) the constraints so far for im­ eqfwmf gf^«nTT plementation and the manner in which these have been overcome or are pro­ 5043. «ft Hraift >nf: ^JiT posed to be overcome? *Tf «(dA ^ ?>Hi % : THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN); (a) (^f ) ^ sr?mR' !TT^[f%^ The Idukki Hydro-electric Project is ^ ®rf^Rpff ®ra^fw, located in Kerala. The three Generat­ «n^ f^n

    1 to the Sixth Plan would be ready for public discussion by March, 1978. 5045. SHRI (FRASANNBHAI MEHTA: DR. HENRY AUSTIN; 8f w iift ^ w SHRl C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: 5046. fnmr ippin: w t ^ Will the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state: ^ % :

    i.a)> whether the newly constituted (^ ) WT HT^rrc ^ ^ Planning Commission held its first meeting in July, 1977 to discuss the flormulation of the Sixth Five Year Plan;

    (b) if so, the main points or schemes ( ’sr) ^ % on which greater emphasis will be ftw ?mrR ?rk 'laid; and WTrRTj^ ^ STTTRft I ? (c) vi’hen the Sixth Five Year Plan is likely to be given the Anal shape? («ft mn fwr ) : (^) : ^ ^ I THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI MOKARJI DESAI): (a) Yes, Sir. { ^ ) ?TtT (b) In the Sixth Five Year Plan, ^ srraR cptt highest priority will be given to agri­ cultural and rural development pro­ Hm sw r ?fk ^mrspff % grammes. It is noted that a very !arge irrigation Plan would be needed to achieve a significantly higher rate of growth in agriculture than in the past. The role of small and cottage indus­ TTffreNT vhm r ?n?T % iM V tries in providing employment would be emphasised much more than 5047. WI^TJIT : W 3nrf hitherto. The broad thrust of the Plan strategy would be to extend the scope ^ irqrr ^ i f % : of area planning and maximise the employment content of area develop­ (^p) ^ ment schemes. A substantial part of % MidKsifi jptirar the population, which is at present below the poverty line, would have to ?IFr % Jfft 5ETTW be provided not only food, clothing and % ^ % rn+'wi w «tt; shelter but also the very basic require­ ments of social services within the ( ^ ) ^ * Plan period. The Plan will also take into account the need to reduce the spw qr f w w r sfh: existing disparities in income and Wealth. (»r) "RT 97VR ^5T ^ q ifw 3iT?r % ^3^ ) (c) According to the programme of ■wqrk and time schedule approved by 151 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 152

    q*to : (^ ) ^ (» r ) ;« n w ^ % ^kr^TTmr- vhHT wpr % «ft f^Tirfira’ sTrRrJ '»l'i'»tlla ^ ^ f^PTT ^ mr I ‘^ ’ . 4 — 'TT^T^T ^ Jf W^ ^ «Ttf^ ^ ?I^Tt H^ITO ^ V 7 1 TK %■ f^qr 'STRTT I 5fk 5T T?: m j ‘^’ 193 25 ^^TtT ^', q77^ Cn •' '^ ’ . 252 25 qt^ ffTirf^rr ■t.wfTJTT «Ft f^TW- >o ^rr^r % % ?nf^r ^ 'tf . 456 51 ftrs ^t tt: ^ ttI i ^ irm% wf5rra-T ^ % (»l) cfSiTT ?T^- 5^rfiFar?hr 1%2n ^■Jr!%qf % f?HT Tcff % 5TTO=m w t I «??ff H 4iJ-slf'-ERT ^ <'+.!< grrr ^ rd >s ferr srrar Ttrrr 1

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    m ‘n’ : irrfN f % (b) if so, the St^e-wise money released by the Ministry and the WXfMW 2 ^ w m allocation made by the States; and 5WT aiHanftwlf V (c) the steps taken by the Ministry WTTfiff?T to utilise the money and progress 2 I made so far?

    k 4 *«TPr ?ra ^ T ^ ?rwt>T THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ % ^nsiPR- % sRT '5rr?r % FAIRS : (SHRI CHARAN SINGH); 1%cr sprtir^ rr^ f^»TR (a) and vb). This information will ba laid on table of the house as soon as ^T sfT?; f^lT ^ fT I expenditure figures for the year 1976-77 are received from all states hav’ing tribal sub-plans. They have iffTTfwar been asked to expedite. 2 >irT^^a ^ firiT ?lTTffffrT 1 MWfHftwr rW (c) The need for ensuring full utilization of funds has been impressed W^^?r?T 5PT3ITfs^lr % «F on the State Governments from lime WT^iSTrT 3 «Tf??Ii3RT Him I to time.

    Incidents of Communal Trouble ir JTiTt ^rF’faTrT 6 ^ R Tnr^TTT srFa^fT ^ f^ir t, 5053. SHRI F. H. MOHSIN: Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be ^ rT*£tT pleased to state; 3r^3nf=rTff % mr^pff % NS iia) the number of incidents of com­ ^rff TJ ir 1 1 munal troulDle since 25th April, 1977; !T?, f^T'cjffTcT sfrraMa % ?r^HR ?3^- (hi' the loss to life and properly in­ »;foJT i T ^ ^ ?T in ^ volved in those incidents; and

    T # if o ^rr% rfSTT ( •) the reasons for the trouble and ?R ^ ff snfTjff ^ the sleps taken tn prevent recurrence of such incidents? '% ^ srTTfsra' HTRra'f gRT ^ ’T^'f ^ ?r?7T THE MINISTER OF HOIMTE AF­ t I FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH,; (a) to (c). Facts are being ascertained from the States Governments and Union Territory Administrations and will be laid on the Table of the House utilisation of Allocation for sub-Plan in due course. for Tribals in 1976-77 Constitution of new Central Accredi­ 5052. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO;’ tation Committee Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: 5054. DR.- BAPU KAIDATY; Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND (a) whether the States have utilis­ BROADCASTING be pleased to state: ed all the money earmarked by their State Plan and assistance provided by (a) whether the Government have .the Ministry under Sub-Plan for constituted a new Central Accredita- Tribals in the year 1976-77; tion Committee; 1795 LS— 6. i 63 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 164 (b>if so. when it was constituted; ADVANI); (a) and (b) Yes Sir. The and " ’ Central Press Accreditation Committee (c) the names of the members of the reconstituted on July 15, 1977. Committee representing different organisation? - (c) The names of the members of THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION Committee are given in the state- AND BI^OADCASTING (SHRI L. K. ment attached.

    Statement

    All India Newspapers Editors' Conference

    1. Shri Vishwa Bandhu Gupta, Editor, Daily ‘Tcj’ New Delhi.

    2. Dr. K. P. Agirwal, Managing Editor, Pioneer, Lucknow.

    3. Shri Virendra, Editor, Daily Pratap, Jullundur.

    4. S'-'.ri V. P. V. Rajan, Editor, The Mail, Madras.

    Indi in I 'ederation of Working Journalists

    I. Shri J. P. Chaturvedi, New Delhi.

    t. Shri C. P. Ramachandran, N,:w Delhi.

    3. Shri C. M. Mishra;, Patna.

    4. Shri Raghurama Shetty, Bangalore.

    v'a tional Union of Joiimalists (India)

    1. Shri Kapil Verma, Secretary-General, NUJ, Lucknow.

    2. Shri Tushar Ranjan Patranabis, Staff Reporter, Hindustan Standard, Calcutta.

    3. Shri Narayan Rath, Spcc'al Correspondent, S;imaj, Bhubaneswar.

    4. Shri Nand Kishore Tr’kha, New Delhi.

    Press Association

    1. Shri S. Dharmarajan, Spec'al correspondent. Times of India. New Delhi.

    2 . Shri Vijay Sanghvi, Special Correspondent, Sandesh, New Delhi.

    Netos Cameramen's Association

    I. Siiri Prem Prakash, Virnsws, New Delh . l65 "^rctten Answers SRAVANA 5, TW (SXKX] wiiuiii jimuitiB

    (a) steps taken so far for d e v e l^ «nftr inftwf ment of the tribal people in Nilgiri Hills area in Tamil Nadu; 5055. »To WT »H[

    JT? ?rarT% ^ ^TT ^ f% : (b) the investments made by the Central and State Governments and (^ ) 3rT% the concrete achievements so far; and ^ fir^r^ ?n% ^mrf % ^ I ; (c) particulars of any new plans proposed for development of the area ( ^ ) ^ Jr including the expenditure contem­ ?T^l^

    (>t) f?T PMtesI ^rfw % ^r project?

    ^ 5ft% w t ? THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI MORARJI DESAI); (a) The tribal *T?ft («ft ^TOT f ^ ) : (^ ) population of Nilgiris benefit from the ^ff^Emr % ?T^=5®^ 241 % ?Tsfl^ Tps^qfir Stale Plan and Centrally sponsored % ?TT^ ^ ‘W¥R’ ^5fT% ^ IT^ schcmes for tribal welfare and deve­ % FT ^r f%3TT w I t lopment as well as from the general ?T^: ^T'T^f^ '^iRim'I ^ development programmes undertaken ^r«ff % %tT JT^ W 5Tff I I in the area.

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    TTT^ |TT I "^ T ^ ” ?H5? R ^ Plan are provided s c h e m e /sectorwise. TTSirn^ ?rh: a’fiT^TRTT h ?R^r^d II is not, therefore, possible to relate ^rf^/3T?T3rTf^ % ^ if ITRT 3TPT I the outlays and the achievements se­ parately in respect of the tribal popu­ ?fh: ^PT?prr? flr lation of this Area.

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    16-12-76 De!h! Bhubaiie'ihwar Shri J. B. Patna k. Minister Shri C. P. Majhi Shri A. R. Amulay Shri Ramakrishnaya Shri Ram Chandra Shri Ba‘ ant Kumar Shri Manoj Kumar Shri Om Prakash

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    Bhubaneshwar Delhi Shri S. C. Bhatt 25-12-76 Shri D. S. Mehta Shri L. C. Tirthani 175 ’ Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers I 76

    New Sources for coking coal , (c) if so, whether Government pro­ pose to decasualise them and make 5063. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: Will them permanent where they are the Minister of ENERGY be pleased working against perennial nature of to state: jobs? (a) whether new sources are to be THE MINISTER OF ENERGY tapped for coking coal; and (SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN): (a) to (c). It is not a fact that thousands (b) if sO, details thereof? of casual workers are working in parennial nature of jobs and that they THE MINISTER OF ENERGY have been working for more than (SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN): (a) seven years. Casual workers are being Yes, Sir. deplo.ved on surface mainly in wagon loading jobs to supplement the per­ (b) For meeting the increased de­ manent strength of wagon loaders. mand of coking coal, new sources of Loading of wagons is a job requiring coking coal are tapped depending on intermittant additional strength due to the suitability of such coal for the changing availability of railway wa­ steel industry. Some of the major gons. A large number of casual work­ npvv sources of medium coking coal ers have already been regularised are being developed in West Bokaro during the last years but it will not be Coalfield of Hazaribagh area and possible to decasualise all casual load­ Pench-Kanhan Coalfield of Madhya ers in view of the daily fluctuation in Pradesh. the supply ol railway wagons.

    In the category of semi/weekly cok­ Demands of Hindustan Cablets Ltd. ing coal, new sources are being tested Shramik Union from and Churcha- n065. SHKI ROBIN SEN; Will the Katkona in Madhya Pradesh. In addi­ Minis'.cr of INDUSTRY be nlea.sed to tion to this, suitability of Assam Coal state: in steel plants is also being determin­ ed. Already some of the coals from (a) whether he has received a these areas are being used in limited charter of demands dated 15th April, quantities in the coke ovens at the 1977 from Hindustan Cables Ltd. steel plants whereas some others are Shramik Union. Hindustan Cables of in various stages of pilot plant testing Bardwan, West Bengal; and and commercial testing to ascertain their suitability in coking coai blend. (b) if so, the reaction of Govern­ ment thereto? THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY Casual Labourers working against pe­ (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) rennial jobs in Ea»tem Coal Limited and (b). A copy of Memorandum of demands of the employees and work­ 5064. SHRI ROBIN SEN: Will ers of Hindustan Cables Limited sub­ the Minister of ENERGY be pleased mitted to the management of the to state: Hindustan Cables Limited was receiv­ ed from H. C. L. Shramik Union vide (a) whether thousands of casual letter No. SU/D/2/77, dated the 15th workers are working in perennial April, 1977 in the Department of In­ nature jobs in different areas under dustrial Development. The demands Eastern Coal Ltd.; would be looked into by the Manage­ ment within the framework and poli­ (b) whether many of them have cies, as decided from time to time, for been working for more than seven the employees of public sector under­ years; and takings by the Central Government. 177 Written Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 178

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    Snspension of new releases of Indian (c) whether Government have Motion Pictures by Film Federation of taken steps to solve the problems of India the industry in order to avoid their closure? 5069. DR. VASANT KUMAR PAN­ DIT; Will the Minister of INFOR­ THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY MATION AND BROADCASTING be (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) pleased to state. to (c). No specific complaints have been received by Government of India (a) whether Film Federation of India from any unit in Tamil Nadu manu­ has suspended aJl the new releases of facturing cables and conductors about the Indian Motion Pictures as protest its facing closure due to financial diffi­ against the 10 per cent ad.valorem culties or shortage of raw material excise duty proposed in the New and power supply. Government are. Budget; however, aware that production of alu­ (b) whether the decision of the minium in the first three months of excise duty will affect the films pro­ the current financial year was short duced in regional language and small by about 12,000 tonnes over that of budget films; and corresponding period in the previous year. This is attributed to power cut (c) the reaction of Government and strike in Belgaum Smelter. Power thereto? supply has since been restored to M/s. Madras Aluminium Co. Ltd. and THE MINISTER OF INFORMA­ strike in Belgaum Smelter called ofT. TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI L. K. ADVANI): (a> Some reports to this efl'ect had apt>eared in a section Commissioninf of Variable Energy of the Press. Cyclotron

    (b) and (c). Taking note of the re­ 5fl71. DR. VASANT KUMAR PAN­ presentations made by Ihe Fiim In­ DIT : Will the Minister of ATOMIC dustry, the Minister for Finance has ENERGY be pleased to state: already announced certain modifica­ tions in regard to the original propo­ (a) whether the Variable Energy sal for levy of excise duty on films, Cyclotron (V.E.C.) has 'lemi com­ ■which, it is hoped, will go a long way missioned for use by B.A.ll.C,, Cal­ in mitigating the grievances of the cutta; Film Industry. (b) the total cost of this VEC Pro­ ject, including foreign e'cchange used; and Cable and Conductor manufacturing unit in Tamil N»du (c) to what uses the VEC project helps in the field of Nuclear Research, Industry and Agriculture? 5070. DR. VASANT KUMAR PAN­ DIT: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI be pleased to state: MORARJI DESAI): (a) Yes, Sir. The Variable Energy Cyclotron was com­ (a) whether the Cable and Conduc­ missioned during the early morning tor manufacturing units in Tamil hours of June 16, 1977. Nadu are facing closure due to ■finan­ cial diflaculties; (b) The total cost of the VEC Pro­ (b) whether they are facing short­ ject is about Rs. 9 crores with a foreign exchange component of about Us. 1 age of raw material and power supply; and ’ crore. * Ig l Written Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 182

    (c) Th«* Cyclotron will be used for that of present times. The amount nuclear and solid state physics re­ of Rs. 11.90 lakhs paid for the TV search by students and scientists frran rights of the film for 50 years was on Indian universities, national labora­ the basis of the recommendation of a tories and other research institutions. Committee constituted for this purpose The isotopes produced by the Cyclo­ and also in consultation with the Mi­ tron •would be used in medicine, agri­ nistry of Finance. culture, radiation chemistry and bio­ logy. It will also be used in radia­ (d) No, Sir. tion damage studies of materials, which studies will be helpful in the Photo Films Factory in Private Sector designing of reactors. 5073. SHRI K. A. RAJAN: WiU tlifr Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Production of a film “Indus to Indira state: Gandhi” by a Tamil Nadu firm (a) whether the All India Federa­ 5072. SHRI NAWAB SINGH CHAU- tion of Photographic Traders Associa­ H'AN,: Will the Minister of ,INFOR­ tion has suggested a photo films fac­ MATION AND BROADCASTING be tory in the private sector; and pleased to state; (b) if so, the facts and Govern^ (a) whether a firm of Tamil Nadu ment’s reaction thereto? was awarded a contract worth Rs. 12 lakh for producing the film “Indus to THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY ” ; (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) (fo) whether the payment to this and (b). In his address on the occasion firm was made during the last days of the 7th convention of the All India of the Ministership of former Minis­ Federation of Photographic Trades ter; Association held a. Madras on the 2nd July, 1977, the President of the Associa­ (c) the contents of this feature film tion had, among other things, stated and whether the amount paid for the that there was a justifiable claim for film was too much and the money was setting up of second unit preferably misused there; and in the private sector for the manufac­ (d) whether Government propose ture of roll films in the country. In to order a C.B.I. inquiry into the reply to this address, the then Minister whole affair? of Industrial Development had stated that production in this field was pick­ THE MINISTER OF INFORMA­ ing up in the Central Public Sector TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI undertaking of Hindustan Photo Films L. K. ADVANI): (a) M/s. Krishna- Manufacturing Company Limited pnd swamy Associates, 5 Mahatma Gandhi that the company had already made ar_ Road, Shastri Nagar, Madras were rangements for manufacture of roll paid an amount of (Els. 11.90 lakhs for films in collaboration with GDR. the TV rights of the film ‘Indus Valley had also expressed the view that when to Indira Gandhi’ for a period of 50 manufacture under the new arrange­ years. ments starts, the HPF would be able to meet the country’s entire require­ (b) The payment was made on 14th ments for roll films not only for the January, 1977. present but for the growing needs of (c) This is a feature length docum en­ the near future as weU. In the cir­ tary film for a duration of about 4 cumstances, Government do not con­ hours with two parts of two hours sider it necessary to set up an addi­ each. It. is an attempt to recreate tional unit for the manufacture of this Indian history, culture and civilizaticai item in the country either in the pci- from the Indus Valley civilization to vate or in the public sector. i83 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 184

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    ^cTlf^^T ^FT3f ^ ?TTirT- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY %rT ^nT3T ^ ?rRjsp | 1 (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) No. (?5) JTf? ^r, ?fr ^-T% ^?rr (b) Does not arise. I ?rk ?TTarR n ir (c) No such complaints have been ^ I; ?T>T received. (d) and (e). Do not arise. (^ ) ^JTf ?Tf;TrfcT^ ?T^grd ^FT5T ^ T?riT^ spiT ^ ^ROT nTT W:nR Broadcast of “ Spotlight” and the ^n:*¥T^ STTf TcTif?^' ^T'sT^Fft TK5T “Parliament Today” Programmes from all Stations of A.I.R. ^ t fiT?l frfn ?'T T^l? ' ' 5076. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to ^€T>1 («T> : state: {W‘) 3ft, I 5CTfirr%a' ^T'^^Rt^nT^T (a) whether the “Spotlight” and ^ ?T^sTT ^qr ?r«iqifT the “Parliament Today” in the AU India Radio are broadcast from all the ^fT I 1 stations of All India Radio;

    (51) 5TM f^ ^ii I (b) if so, details thereof; and (c) if not, whether Government (^ ) %qi ?T'3gp!v ^nrsf f^rjr- propose to put these programmes on ^ ^ST^TT ^r 7:^r 1 1 fir?T it the AIR by all the stations of All India Radio? 197 5 -7 7 tt ?rf?Tirt ^rff f t I 1 THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI L. K -Participation of Ministry of Industry ADVANI): (a) to (c). The pro­ in the decision of Foreign Investment grammes “Spotlight” and “Today in Board Parliament” are’ broadcast by All India Radio in English. It is not 5075. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU; compulsory for all the stations of Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be All India Radio to relay these pro­ -pleased to state: grammes. Those stations which are located in non- speaking areas (a) -whether it is a fact that cer­ mostly relay these two programmes. tain immediate changes are Being tontemplated with regard to partici­ There are corresponding program­ pation of Ministry of Industry in the mes broadcast by All India Radio in decision of Foreign Investment Board; Hindi which are titled “Samayiki” « l85 Written Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers

    and “Sansad Fameeksha” respective­ Foreigners stayinir In srimayapnr ly. These prpgramipes are relayed math Nabadwip, West Bengal by stations located in Hindi speak­ ing areas. 5078. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS The position is that 38 stations re­ be pleased to state: lay the programme “Spotlight” regu­ (a) whether it is a fact that Mr. larly and 23 stations relay it occa­ Charles Edwards and several other sionally or put out off-broadcasting foreigners staying in Srimayapur recordings. As regards the program­ math, Ndbadwip, West Bengal had me “Today in Parliament”, 36 sta­ been graritcd visas to continue their tions relay it regularly and one sta­ stay in the country; and tion relays it occasionally. Thiry four stations relay the programme (b) whether Government are aware “Sansad Sameeksha” instead of “To­ of the fact that they are involved in day in Parliament.” anti-national and anti-peoplg activi­ ties and also creating law and order problems for the local State Govern­ ment? Payment of Royalty by R.C.C.L. to West Bengal THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ 5077. SHRI JOYTIRMOY BOSU: FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): (a) Some foreigners, including one Will tlie Minister of ENERGY be Mr. Charle.s Edward Bacis belonging pleased to state: to the International ' Society for (a) v^hether the West Bengal Gov- Krishna Consciousness, are residing ernmenl are requesting the Bharat in Srimaj^apur math, Nabadwip, West Coakini: Coal Ltd. for immediate Bengal. payment of royalty due to them; (b) A report has bt'en received of a clash on the 8th July, 1977 between (b) if so, details thereof; and some members of the local population and some residents of the math. Two (c) a:tion taken on the same? counter cases have been registered by THE MINISTER OF ENERGY the police. In one case, eleven per­ (SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN); (a) sons including six foreigners belong­ Yes, Sir. ing to the math were arrested, while in other five loc'als have been arrest­ ed. The matters is under investiga­ (b) and (c). A sum of about Rs. tion by the C.I.D., West Bengal. 31 lakha is due to be paid as royalty to the Governme’nt of West Bengal by Bharat Coking Coal Limited. As Increase in the age-limit for the ranks against this amount, the Durgapur of and above Projects Limited—an undertaking of the Government of West Bengal—owes 5079. SHRI RAMANAND TlWARY: a sum of about Rs. 350 lakhs to Will the Minister of DEFENCE be Bharat Coking Coal Ltd., on account pleased to state: of coal :;i!rplied to them. Negotiations (a) whether age-limit for the ranks for adjustni'int of these due.s between of Brigadier and above alongwith the the State Government and the Com­ corresponding ranks in other two panies are going on. Pending con­ wings of the armed forces was caused clusion oi the forma.I agreement with to be enhanced during Emergency the State Governmant, royalty pay­ resulting in general resentment detri­ ment by Bharat Coking Coal Ltd.., mental to the morale of armed forces V has been kt-pt in abeyance. as a whole; and 187 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers l88

    (b) if so, the reasons for deviation contemplated to be taken in the? mat­ from the well accepted past conven. ter? tions/rules/orders7 THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) and AND BROADCASTING (SHRI L. K. ADVANI): In the light of discussions (b). The position in relgard to the with the representatives of leading increase in the age-limits of retire­ Press Organisations in the country, ment of officers of the rank of Briga­ dier and above, and the correspond­ details are being worked out. ing ranks in the Navy and Air Force is as follows: — Supply of water in Ambala Cantoniiieut ARMY 5081. SHRI RAMANAND TIWARY; The maximum ages of retirement Will the Minister of DEFENCE be for officers of the rank of Brigadier pleased to state: and above were uniformly increased (a) whether in M.E.S. Ambala by 2 years for each rank, in Decem­ Cantonment huge amount has been ber, 1976, except in the case of Me­ expended during the last few years dical, Dfc'ntal, Remount, Veterinary & to improve the supply of water by Farms Corps and Special list officers fixing up deep tube wells; and Army Officers permanently se­ conded to Research, Development end (b) if so, the total amount of expen­ Inspection Organisations. This re­ diture made during the last three vision has not caused any general years and total number of tube wells; resentment; on the other hand, it has been generally welcomed by the Offi­ (c) whether supply of water has cer Cadre, as ages of retirement of not yet improved because most of the officers below the rank of Brigadiers tube wells are remaining unwork­ have also been increased in most able; and cases. (d) if so, steps being taken to im­ prove the same? The retirement ages have been re­ vised in order to derive optimum THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE benefit from the experience anj know- (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) to (d). le'd3e of officers, without compromis­ Prior to the excision of civil areas in ing the requirements of physical fit­ Ambala Cantonment on 5.2.1977, there ness. were 15 tube wells under the con­ trol of the; Cantonment Board. As a NAVY AND AIR FORCE result of excision, 14 have been trans­ ferred to the Notified Area Commit­ There has I'een no enhancement in tee, Ambala and there is only one the age-limit of retirement for Offi­ tube well under the control of the cers in ranks equivalent to Brigadier Board. This tube wel] caters to the and above, in the Navy and the Air needs of the civil population of Thop Force. Khana Bazaar of the Cantonment.

    R'eviving of Press Council 2. Watfe'r supply in the remaining areas is arranged by MES 45 tube 5080. SHRI RAM AN AND TIWARY: welLs were constructed by the Mili­ Will the; Minister of INFORMATION tary Engineering service till 1970. AND BROADCASTING be pleased to In course of last seven years 10 tube refer to the reply given to Unstarred wells of normal depth of 150 to 180 Question No. 1330 on the 22nd June, metres were' sanctioned at an estima­ 1977 regarding reviving of Press ted cost of Rs. 55.07 lakhs out of which Council and state the action taken or six have been commissioned, the I89 Written Answers SEAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 190 work on three is in advanced account of a dispute with the Munici­ stage ot progress and one is still pal CorporBtion of Delhi. The Chair­ to be taken -up. The total expendi­ man of the D.T.C. and Municipal ture till 31st March 1977 is Rs. 45.41 Commissioner have now come to an lakhs out of which the expenditure agreement subject to ratification by in course of last three years is Rs. the Municipal Corporation of Delhi 21.21 lakhs in respect of the six tube and DTC Board. After ratification a ^ l l s which have been commissioned programme for construction of new and also towards the three tube wells bus shelters will be drawn up by the which are in progress. Water supply DTC, keeping in view availability of position with the completion of these funds and of the sites for the pur­ wells has improved in Ambala Can- pose. torvment. No tube wells which have been completed in course of last thretj years are unworkable at present. Transfer of D.T.C. to Municipal Cor­ However, old tube wells, which were poration of Delhi constructed 10 to 15 years ago re­ quire to be' replaced on an average 5083. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD at the rate of two Per year as there VERMA: Will the Minister of SHIP­ is .shortfall in the yield of water and PING AND TRANSPORT be pleased the running becomes uneconomical. to state:

    3. In order to improve the s^itua- (a) whether Government are con­ tion exploratory work for developing sidering to trajisfer the D.T.C. to the two tubii wells bored to a depth of Municipal Corporation of Delhi; and 400 to 500 metres has been taken up through the Central Ground Wattr (b) if so, what are the facts there­ Board. The possibility of participat­ of? ing in aiiy lift irrigatioo scheme that may be taken up in the area by the THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI State Gt vernment will also be explo­ MORAR.il DESAI): (a) No, Sir. red in ijonsultalion with the State Government. (b) Does not arise.

    Bus shelters at D.T.C. bus stops

    5082. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD VERMA- Will the Minister of SHIP­ 5084. ^ PING ^ND TRANSPORT be pleased to state': fq r : (a) whether a proposal is under the consideration of the Government to set uj) bus shelters at all the main (t ) 5PTT bus stops of D.T.C. in the union ter­ ritory Of Delhi; and t I ; (b) if so, the time likely to be taken up in implementing the pro­ ( g ) ?t, if: posal? (

    THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) and (b). (n ) cfsp ff^cT?rT Since 1975, there has been a hold up prr wrir ^ of the vi^rok of construction of new shelters by DTC at the bus stops on 191 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 192

    («r) f ^ ir (b) if so, broad details thereof; ’prrnr ^ fsFrnrr | ?ftT (c) if not, the reasons for the de­ %rf%®T ir ^ ^ f^T T I cline, particularly of NCC at college# and universities; and ^ ?fiT ' (d) the effective steps being taken ( t ) ^PT if: it ?T^iTaTTW by Government to improve the % fiTT ^TTTJT I ? situation?

    THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE »nft («Tt HtTTTsft ^ t ) : (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) ACC (^)^ {^). 'ran %; f^T^T was nierged with NCC in 1964-65. ®ftaRT f^pT 7 . 72 ^ ^^5Rt The programmes of the NCC dur­ » • Cs ing the last three years have shown *rf I steady improvement and progress.

    '7T TTJir n 1966 ^ (b) Some of the important aspects of improvement and progress are as 5T^ feTT I | % ff^iTm follows: — ij- fsfSTP^ ^T qfTifl^T ^ it TT^ JTT^ ^rsinTn spTVT (i) The tr’aining syllabi have been revised to meet the changing re­ % f^cr 55f^5T?T ^TtnT ^ 1971, quirements and aims of the NCC. ?Rg;^T, 1975, 197 6 ?f«T The revised syllabi are progressive and lay greater stress on develop­ 1976 it ?TT>^ ?TSR^5’Tf'5r5V fdl ?FT ment of leadership qualities. srttn^ I I ^ i|: ^TTTT^ jj: (ii) The scope of conventional ^'krr ^ fefr ^'t st^ tt | i subjects like drill and weapon train­ ing has been proportionately re­ ttht ^ 1977 i' ?r?cT duced and greater stress is being 72 5. 6 ?rra 5I71T ^ ^=q?TT laid On adventure training, sports and social service concepts. More t( I I 566.46 ?rnr ^O ^:v cadets are taking part in cycling ^ ?T?TCcTT ? t iri t I expeditions, trekking, sailing, row­ ^#in^ ^tvd'f ? i ^ n , ing, mountainetring and para jumps. »TT^', 197 8 rT^ ^ (iii) For girl cadets, Air, Naval I I and equestrian training has been introduced on a selective basis.

    (iv) Records of service officers Programmes of NCC and ACC at inducted into the NCC arc now Colleges and Universities screened and only officers with good records are taken. This has 5085. PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR; helped in improving the standards. w ill the Minister of DEFENCE be- pleased to state; ^ (v) A qualitative requirement for instructional staff to be posted to (a) whether the programmes »f the NCC has bc-en prescribed and is NCC and ACC at colleges, univer­ being adhered to in order to main­ sities and schools respectively are tain adequate standards of train­ going on as per planned targets and ing. with steady improvement and pro­ gress during the last three years; (c) and (d). Does not arise. 193 Written Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899(SAKA) Written Answers i g f

    Khosla Commiarion Report THE MINISTER OP HOME AF­ FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): 5086. SHRI . (KANWAR LAL (a) and (b). During the last four GUPTA: Will the Minister of HOME months the CBI has taken up in­ AFFAIRS be pleased to state: quiries against 39 Gazetted Officers in Delhi. It would not be in the inte­ (a) the recommendation made in rest of investigation to furnish fur­ Khosla Commission Report on which ther details at this stage. Government have not taken action so far; (c) and (d). In one of the above­ t mentioned cases, investigation has (b) the reasons for not implemen­ been completed; and a charge-sheet ting these recommendations so far; was filed in court, this case relates and to purchase of Quick Floe Polymix by Delhi Water Supply & sewage Dis­ (c) the action taken by Govern­ posal Undertaking from M/s. Maruti ment in regard to appointment of a Technical Services (P) Limited. Commissioner of Police for Delhi?

    THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ Seeking of MINI Air Force by the FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH); Army Xa) and (b). Government have con­ sidered the various recommendations 5088. DR. HENRY AUSTIN: made by the Khosla Commission. SHRi K. LAKKAPPA: Many of these recommendations nave Will the Minister of DEFENCE be already been implemented. Action pleased to state: is in progress in the remaining re­ commendations which have been ac­ (a) whether attention of the Gov­ cepted by the Government. ernment has been drawn to the ‘Sun­ (c) This recommendation of the day Standard’ dated the lOth July, 1977 under the heading that Army Khosla Commission was earlier con­ seeks its own Mini Air Force for sidered by the Government but was effective ground force: not accepted. However, the matter has been re-opened and is under ac­ (b) if so, how far this is true; tive consideration. (c) whether earlier Generals had also demanded the same; Inqairy against Gazetted Officers (d) if so, whether Government had 5087. SHRI KANWAR LAL opposed this idea; and GUPTA: Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (e) what is the reaction of Gov,- ernment on this report? (a> the names and addresses of the gazetted officers against whom CBI is THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE making inquiry for the last 4 months (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) and in Delhi; (b). Yes, Sir. There is a proposal for the creation of an Army Aviation (b) the details of complaints made Corps. against each of them; (c) in how many cases the inquiry (c) There was such proposal in the has been completed; and past also. (d) the details thereof and the (d) and (e). The proposal is being action taken by Government thereon? examined by the Government. J795 LS—7. 195 Written Anstoers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answer* 196

    UttUaattoB of Licence THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN): (a) 5089. DR. HENRY AUSTIN: The report of the Expert Group on SHRI NIHAR LASKAR: Synthetic Oil is under examination of the Government. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (b) and (c). For gasification of coal Indian know-how is available. (a) whether during 1976-77, 662 For synthesis of gas to oil import of licences were issued; foreign know-how might be neces­ sary. (b) if so, how many of them have been fully utilized so far; Supply of Coal Based Domestic Fuel (c) whether all the industrial pro­ to Urban Area jects were set up by the licence hol­ ders; and 5091. SHRI D. D. DESAI: Will the (d) if not, action taken against Minister of ENERGY be pleased to them? state:

    THE m in is t e r o f INDUSTRY (a) whether Coal India has prepar­ (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) ed a scheme for supplying coal based 641 licences were issued during the domestic fuel to all urban areas; 1976-77 (1.4.1976—31.3.1977). (b) if so, details thereof; and (b) About 120 licences have been (c) savings in fuel wood expected implemented. from the use of coal based domestic fue] instead of fire-wood? (c) and (d). An industrial licence is generally issued with an initial vali­ THE MINISTER OF ENERGY dity period of 2 years, which can nor­ (SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN); (a) mally be extended for a period of and (b). Coal India, have been un­ another 2 years. The validity period dertaking marketing drive to make can further be extended if .strong jus­ soft coke more readily available to tification is available. It normally consumers in the country. Test-mar­ takes 3 to 4 years to set up a new keting is also being done for smoke­ industrial undertaking after the issup less domestic fuels like pallets and of an industrial licence, and large briquettes. projects have a longer period of ges­ tation, and it is premature to foiecast (c) According to the Report of the at this stage that all projects licensed Fuel Policy Committee, firewood equi­ in 1976-77 will be set up. valent to about 116 million tonnes coal replacement is consumed every year. The extent of saving in fuel Extraction oS Petroleum from Coal wood consumption will depend inon 5090. SHRI D. D. DESAI: Will the consumer preference and the avail­ ability of coal based domestic fuel. Minister of ENERGY bo pleased to state: « Cement factories in Himachal ^a) whether any progress has been Pradesh made to establish plants for con­ verting coal into petroleum; 5092. SHRI DURGA CHAND: Will- the Minister of INDUSTRY be plea­ (b) whether we have also acquired sed to state: all the technology needed for this; and (a) the number of cement facto­ ries with their production capacity*, (c) if so, details thereof? and location in Himachal Pradesh; 197 Wntten Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 198

    (b) whether Government have (e) if so, the date? conducted any survey regarding lime­ stone stt^^s in Dharamkot (Kangra); THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) (c) if so, the details thereof; There is no cement factory in pro­ duction in Himachal Pradesh. How­ (d) whether Government propose ever, the following scheme for setting to take over lime-stone factories at up cement plants in the State have Dharamkot; and been approved: —

    SI. Name of the party Location Annual No. Capacity CIn lakh tonnes)

    I Cement Corporation of India Limited . Rajban 2 00 (Distt. Sirmur) 2 Himachal Prade-^h Mineral £c Industrial Samloti 2 00 Development Corpn. (Distt. Kangra) 3 M/s. Associated Cement Company . Gagal 400

    (b) Yes, Sir. (b) whether Government have for­ mulated any special scheme in this (c) The Geological Survey of India regard; and has proved cement grade limestone at Dharamkot in Kangra District of (c) if so, main features thereof? Himachal Pradesh to an extent of 18 million tonnes. But later survey by THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI the Geologists of the Cement Corpo­ MORARJI DESAI); (a) No estimate ration of India have indicated that is available. the mineable deposits available at Dharamkot are estimated at about 9.6 million tonnes. These deposit^ are ’ (b) and (c). The existing plans located about 17 Kms. from Dharam- for the economic development of Hi­ shala, the district headquarters of machal Pradesh are expected to effect Xangra District. ^ , some improvement in the economic '(d) No, Sir. ' conditions of the weaker sections of ‘(e) Doe^ T-jot arise. the population. The Annual Plan for 1977-78 has been recast to allocate People living below poverty line in Himachal Pradesh 30 per cent of the funds to agricul­ tural and allied items and generate 5093. SHRI DURGA CHAND: Will 2.5 million jobs in the rural indus­ the Minister of PLANNING be plea­ sed to state; tries sector. The strategy of the Sixth Plan will be more specifically (a) the number of persons in Hi­ machal Pradesh who are living below directed to the alleviation of poverty poverty line; in all parts of India. T59 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 200

    Becrnitment for Hiinachal Pradesh/ Transfers in the Defence Persoaiiel Docra Reffiment 5096. SHRIMATI MRINAL GORE: 5094. SHRI DURGA CHAND: Will Will the Minister of DEFENCE be the Minister of DEFENCE be plea­ pleased to state: sed .J state; (a) whether Government have re­ (a) whether quota for recruitment cently made several changes/trans­ for Himachal Pradesh/Dogra Regiment fers in the Defence personnel; has been reduced in the recent past; (b) whether Government have (b) if so, the extent of reduction denied such transfers or changes in made and when it was made; the newspapers; and (c) steps taken to prevent such (c) what was the original quota occurrences? and what are th ereasons for reduc­ tion; and THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) Chan­ (d) whether there is any proposal to restore the original quota and if ges and transfers of Defence person­ so, when? nel have continued in the normal course, as in the past, on the exigen­ cies of service, to achieve turn-over, THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE to fill varancies, to cater to compas­ (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) No, sionate circumstances and on promo­ Sir. tion, etc. There has been nothing un­ (b) to (d). Do not arise. usual in such changes or transfers. (b) Government have denied a Advertisments to small language Press report speculating on the pre­ Newspapers mature retirement of a senior Service Officer. 5095. SHRIMATI MRINAL GORE: Will the Minister of INFORMATION (c) Docs not arise. AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state:

    (a) whether a large number of small language newspapers have oeen 5097. removed from the list of approved names for receiving Government advertisements;

    (b) whether the Government have (w:) =nTT ^ advised the Public Sector Undertak­ ^ S!TH Tf I tT ings not to give advertisements to small language newspapers; and ^ 1972 ^ tT cTTT

    (c) if so, the reasons thereof? ^STTpTrT ^ f%tr qTTT qTfT^ «n?T\7: ^ THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI L. K. f^iTT «n; srk ADVANI): (a) No, Sir. (b) No, Sir. (»sr) ?T, eft ^ (c) Does not arise. ^ 3TT^r»TT ? 201 Written AnsWiTS SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 202

    («ft «fto m riR R ) : (b) The amount of losses incurred by the Corporation during the last {^ ) ?fhc ( ^ ) . srrfir^rMt ^ three financial years is as follows:— f^

    TT ?Tr9Tzr spr Year Amount of losses «rra- f^*TT f^TT ^'T

    ^ ^PT fsr^cT ^ ^^^TTT^rr 1974-75 Rs. 94-49 1-lhs ^rf^tT I 1975-76 Rs. 55-29 lakhs

    1976-77 Rs. 124-75 lakhs 'TcTTr^ ?rk % ^TJrf'Trs^T f^frrn: w«tt The total accumulated loss incurred f^€T?r qrTifrsr^TT ^ ^ by the Corporation since its take over by Government is Rs. 573.80 lakhs. % tr^ ^ ^rr ^ frnT^rr 5pT^ % HT^iT sr^cTisr ^'t ejth (c) The main reasons for the losses of the Corporation are as follows: — Jr T

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    5099. DR. MURLI MANOHAR (iii) heavy accumulation of fin­ JOSHI; Will the Minister of INDUS­ ished stocks for want of adequate marketing/facilities, resulting in TRY be pleased to state: high interest burden; (a) whether the TAFCO (Tannery (iv) old and dilapidated plant and Footwear Corporation) is and equipment affecting producti­ running in loss since it has been vity and quality and leading to high taken over by Government from maintenance cost; B.I.C.; (v) instability in raw material prices resulting in wide fluctuations (b) if so, the amount of loss during between the estimated and actual last three years, year-wise and the production costs; and total accumulated loss incurred since its take over by Government; and (vi) weak and ineffective mana­ gement. (c) the reasons thersfttor?

    ‘frapm «nwr vt ftrvm THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY

    (m) fspq ^ mzftsR m wrc ^^?3rf ^ ^*rmT ^ ?rr^- afk r ^ I ? t I 55rftr^ ttsjt ^r TT3IT ^TIT %75r | 3;arf : ^r^JT trsir ^ sr^T % %??f ^ (^ ) 5Brk (? j). qr^n: ftm % ^*177^ ^ T| I I ^ST'jft, TT% ^ c ' *T^r^; ^fT*TFrT, f^rsRT +'m14 ift^T ^ ir ?Tsim >a sr^ , TT'sr^ q ^ ^ T . 5T%^ ^ ^ F?tt irn; I I 5r»rTn;riTt >TTFr?; | i 'Tft^ift ^i^TTt tT ^ c f ^ it Requirement of Power for Delhi aafl Adjoining industrial Complexes in sr^rfH^ ^ I I ^ ^ it Haryana t sfrr ^fY?rr (b) the sources of supply; and saw ^ vr^ rf^cT | 1 (c) the reasons why they have become so undependable both for ^3^ - ^ ^ if, ^nriT, iTETT^nr dome'^tic and industtdal consutnpi- ^ 5TirTf^TJTT ^TRT?^ ^ ^ tion?

    S R T f ^ I I THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI P. RA:\IACHANDRAN): (a ) to (c). ftr?t ^ % The total requirement of power in Delhi at present varies from ir>3r^-^>?r5r % sTJr 6 to G.5 million units a day approxi­ ?Pcr^^zr qf^-oT ^ mately and the total requirement of the industrial complexes at Faridabad, ^nr 5T^ f^^T ^zTT I I fH G urgaon, Sonepat and Bahadurgarh in Haryana adjoining Delhi is about 2 ^T f^RT ^ ^ V f^nr n qfT- million units a day. The require­ ment o f Delhi are being mot from %5S 5TO ^TT^Ttf^^ TfX’fpiT^Tit the Indraprastha and Rajghat Power iTFft ^3TT^ I ?tV»: TTuft TT^ iftoPTT Stations with a total installed capa­ city of about 250 MW (excluding Har­ ^ ?f)TTT % ^1^ , TJicT Hfrtrai yana's share) and supply of power from Badarpur Thermal Power Sta­ ^ ^3n€\ I I tion. Peaking assistance is also taken by Delhi Electric Supply Undertak­ ing from Bhakra -Nangal system and the energy so drawn is returned to the Bhakna system during night. 205 Written Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Ansvfers 206

    The power requirement of the in­ Purchasing of Power from KeraU by dustrial complexes in Haryana ad­ Andhra Pradesh Electricity Board joining Delhi is met from Haryana’s 5103. SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU: own generation at 30 MW power sta­ Will the Minister of ENERGY be tion at Faridabad, its share of genera­ pleased to state: tion at I-P. Station and its share from (a) wheither the Electricity power generated by Bhakra-Nangal A.P. system. Board purchased power from Kerala during 1974-75; and The reasons for difficulties occa­ (b) if so, whether the Tamil Nadu sionally experienced in the supply of Government claimed service charges power for domestic and industrial including line cesses for facilitating consumption in the area are— transmission of Kerala power through (i) forced outages of newly com­ Tamil Nadu grid lines? missioned generating units of the thermal power stations. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN): (a) and ^b). (ii) lower generation at Bhakia In 1974-75, Kerala banked 66.326 iVIU due' to poor inflows in the Govind- of spilled hydro energy with Andhra sagar reservoir. Pradesh and Karnataka. This energy was shared by Andhra Pradesh, Kar­ (iii) inadequate transmission and nataka and Tamil Nadu Systems in the distribution Capacity in the systems. ratio of their respective percent.age deficits during the period October, The inadequacies relating to gene­ 1974 to June, 1975. The Tamil Nad\i ration at thermal power stations and Electricity Board did no: levy any the deficiencies in transmission and wheeling charges during this operation. distribution are being rectified in accordance with a plann^ pro­ gramme which is being executed in a phased manner. 5104. »To SRTT Station Director at Cuddapah Radio Station 5102. SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU: ^ fwr ; Will the Minister of INFORMATION (^ ) ^ fsRlT AND BROADCASriNG be pleased to state; ^ % TnNrpff ir % (a) whether there is Station Director at Cuddapah Radio Station; TT srmrfTrT ?r«-ir and spT srfkfr HTEW (b) if not, the reasons therefor? (g-) qf? IT, rft fWI ^ THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION MI f’PTT ^PTJTT; sAt AND BROADCASTING (SHRI L. K. ADVANI): (a) and (b). There is at (it) ^I(T »TTTrr>T present no sanctioned post of Station ^T ^ f?rT ^ Director at All India Radio, Cudda­ zrf? rfr nTT^.^r pah. ?TTfrFfT r m fTTTT

    Cuddapah being an auxiliary Station 3T>5r^ ^ srf5TfiT«r stT m f of Hyderabad, with some originating programmes, a post of Assistant JTTtf W.X ^ '■'Station Director is sanctioned. W ^ 3it t ,{V ^ ? 207 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 208

    (b) Government provide assistance, in shape of en-gratia grants or loans «n rn ft): (sp) to the licensed salt manufacturers sFcTTsr I, sn^pm- whose salt works get damaged as a ^ ^ 5TTJT ^JTFT % result of natural calamities like ty- clones, floods and rains, to cover 75 ’ TTSqTT %, rT«TT W^ per cent of such damage as assessed ^rrarF^rv f ^ j f i 'tt m^TrfrrT by the Salt Department. However, no assistance is provided to cover the loss % ’T%'f % ^pt 5T^t% due to salt washed away by rains. % 5Tir^ fj I Broadcast by Opposition Parties on { ^ ) 5T??T I Radio

    (n ) If «rrTrftJT *f’=f:F^ ^T 5106. SHRI JAGDAMBI PRASAD *fiTf:qaT =p7% | I YADAV: WiU the Minister of INFOR­ MATION AND BROADCASTING be ^ 3rr^ ^Fft pleased to state: fqf!?JTf--^t, 1952 w- (a) the basis on which Government ?T«n ?rsft^ f^rinTT have given an opportunity to the opposition parties for broadcast from M ^ft % ?T?nnTo f^artfTrT radio and the nature of provision ?TTT ^ ^Rft I ^ ' f available in other democratic coun­ ^ I I HHT cfTi ^ITT tries in this regard; and % ?TJT7TP‘, ir, (b) the criterion on which alloca­ 5TFJT?mff, 'TTPTTmf, f T ^ 'l ^cflT tion of time for political parties would be made and the rules for allotting % ?T«T7 fsrW^ ^'T sgpTf^-jT^f: JTRT time to the independents, social orga­ ■^TPTT ^ I nisations, Commercial Organisations, Educational Institutions, etc? Salt Industry in Gujarat THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION 5105. SHRI ANANT DAVE: Will ti’e AND BROADCASTING (SHRI L. K. Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to ADVANI): (a) For the recent elections state: to Legislative Assemblies etc., of some States/Union Territories, those politi­ (a) whether the salt industry in cal parties which had been recognise-i Gujarat State is facing very hard by the Election Commission of India, situation and due to rains crores of were given equal opportunity to broad­ Rupees of salt washed away; and cast their view-points from AH India (b) whether Government propose Radio. The decision to that effect was to help this industry? taken after consultation with the Election Commission of India and ;he THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY representatives of recognised parties.

    an hour for broadcast from All India si^-oifqa ?rr?T 92 7 Radio in twotspells of 15 minutes each. The order in which the various parties ^ I ^5^ f?TT^ scrri-?: ^ f^qr w broadcast was determined by a draw W ff^ ■Hm ^ ^ 9RT of lots under the supervision of I he «ft fsTrR)- :RW Chief Electoral Officer cbncerned. No time was allotted to independent r-an- «N didates. mTTPq" a f w jp ?T^?TRsi ITO# ^FPcpfv ^ irn^fr tt The question of allotting time ia c\ . social organisations, commercial orgj rr^ ?rm ^'Ttt iq-f^riT ftrr ^ 1 nisations, educational institutions ?tc., did not arise in the context mentioned ( jt) ^ r ir f^ above. ^Tjxpft ^q’RT ^ % ^■PT'T ^?rtr ^*rrr^ % ^ ®r f^?fr ^TfTTT ^ STR srtiT ^5cTT I 5107. «ft ^ W ^ f ‘TT : ITH 7 4 8 OT^ft ^ fH»rW

    (^ ) 510 8. >sft m?T : fqr 7WT % ^ 'TT IT? ^ W'^ f^STcT IM ftrpTffS'

    8 sTO ^ % 5nr?: ; it 748 f^iTR ^ Pi 'HI''! f%»T 'tir'<

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    ( t ) Enquiry instituted affainst Offlcera ^TTT#, 197 7 attached to Former Ministers fTPqift 'Tift^RK ^ ^tVstrt ^ 5109. SHRI MANOHAR LAL; ^ 53ft % f^TTf^T % 732 ?rns TiqiT SHRI NATHUNI RAM: % s n ir f?lT I Z(^ !T«T ?nTT^ Will the Minister of HOME AJi"- % ^ SPTTTIT t f% ?niT «ft ^ FAIRS be pleased to state: »irat % ^ T?: ferr *rqr «rr 1 (a) whether any enquiries are being instituted against Special Assis­ (g^) ’H*\'>TR cm ^ »T^1 tants/Additional Private Secretaries and other Gazetted Officers attached to 211 Written Ansioers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 212

    former Prime Minister and other mation is being collected and would be Ministers of the Congress Govern­ laid on the table of the House. ment; Members of Parliament under Deten­ (b) whether they have furnished tion during: the Emergency details of their assets acquired by them during their tenure with them .'5112. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: and if so, the detai's of these assets; Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS and be pleased to state:

    THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ Officers brought to the Centre at the FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): (a) instance of Former Ministers to (e). The required information is being collected from the State Govern­ 511 n . SHRI MANOHAR LAL: Will ments and the Union Territory • :!■ the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS l(; ministrations and will be laid on the pleased to state the number of Table of the House. officer,3 of the rank of Deputy Secre­ tary and above brought to the Centre According to available information at the instance of the former Minis­ 49 Members of Parliament were de­ ters during Emergency? tained during the period of emergency from 25th June, 1975 to 21st March, THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS 1977. Their names are given in the (SHAl CHARAN SINGH): The infor­ attached statement * 213 Written Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 214'

    List of Members of Parliament detained during the Emergency

    S. No. Names Whether detained under MISA/ COFEPOSA

    I Shri Mohan Dharia MISA 2 Shri Mukhtiar Singh Do. 3 Shri Jan.;' hwar Misra Do. 4 Shri Mahadeepak Singh . Do. 5 Shri Ram Ratan Sharma Do. 6 Shri A. K. Gopalan Do.

    7 Shri Sharad Yadav Do.

    8 Shri Balakrislma PiUai Do. 9 Shri Jyotirmoy liosu Do. 10 Shri . . . Do.

    II Shii Shyam Nandan Misra Do. 12 Shri . Do.

    13 Shri Madhu Limayc Do.

    14 Shri Hukam Chand Kachwai . Do. 15 Shri Jagannathrao Joshi Do. 16 Sliri Laxmi Narain Pandey Do.

    17 Smi. Vijaya Raje Scindia . . Do. 18 Shri Narendra Singh Do. 19 Shri Chivti Babu . Do. 20 Shri Noorul Huda . Do.

    21 Sliri Morarji Dc'.ai Do. 22 Shri Ram Dhan Do. 23 Shri Pillo Mody Do. 24 Shri Samar Guha . Do. 25 Shri BhagiraJi Bhanwar Do. 26 Shri Do.

    27 Shri P. A. Swam'Hathan D. . 28 Shri T. S. Lak^hmanan . Do. 29 Sliri Phool C'nauJ Verma Do. 30 Shri Ishwar Chaudhry ...... Do. 215 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 216

    S. No. Nimes Whether detained under MISA/ COFrPOSA

    31 Smt. Shakuntala Nayyar MISA 32 Smt. Gayatri D,.-vi . COFEPOSA

    I Shri L. K. Advani MISA 2 Shri V. K. Saklccha Do. 3 Shri Rabi Ray Do. 4 Shri Do. 5 Shri Raj Narahi Do. 6 Shri Krishna Kant . Do. 7 Shri K. ChanJrashckharan Do. 8 Shri Shambhaii Rao Angre Do. 9 Shri Biairon Singh Shekhawa^ Do. -10 Shri Banarsi Da^ Do.

    II Shri Mahadev Pra ad Verma . Do. 12 Shri Viren J. Shah D('. .13 Shri S. S. Mari Avamy Do.

    14 Shri M. Kamalanathan . . . Do. 15 Prof. Ram Lai Parikh . . Do. i6 Shri Sunder Singh !Vi Do. 17

    Distortiion of facts in “Freedom at files, correspondence or other manu­ Midnight” scripts in the National Archives or some other offices or places were ex­ 5113. SHRI MRITUNJAY PRASAD tended to the authors; VARMA: Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to refer to the re­ ply given to Unstarred Question No. (c) whether this book has been .222 on the 11th August, 1976 regarding approved for libraries etc., and how distortion of facts in “Freedom at Mid­ many copies thereof were purchased night” and state: by Government or other Government aided institutions; and (a) the most important damaging, flagrant distortions and falsifications (d) the steps taken or proposed to ■of facts in the book “Freedom at be taken to discourage such scurrilous Midnight” ; writings and to counter their evil (b) what facilities, if any, such as effect by projecting correct history that of travel, residence, reference to true facts, and the real image of our ;printed records and to Government country? x iy rn n -w t n n sw zis— jxvn.va.wii j, iwa vu/iimy ■m Wl'V'

    THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ THE MINISTER OF HOME FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): (a) FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): This is a matter of opinion. (a) Yes, Sir.

    (b>* According to available informa­ (b) It is a matter of opinion. tion, no such facilities were afforded to the authors by any Government (c) Question does not arise. agency. (d) According to available infor­ (c) There are numerous libraries in mation, some such literature is distri­ the country which are either owned buted free of cost and some such puii- ^by or received aid from Central faii lications are sold at cheap rates. State Governments. Books are pur­ chased by the libraries according to (e) Such information is not being their own procedures. collected by the Government.

    (d) In a democratic society, every­ Publication of Periodicals by ForeiffB' one is free to give his own intei'oreta- Embassies in India tion of historical events. However, if any publication infringes any law, 5115. SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Will the action can be taken to prescribe the Minister of INFORMATION AND publication and in appropriate cases BROADCASTING be pleased to state: launch prosecution. (a) whether foreign Embassies in India like U.S.A., U.S.S.R., Eact Ger­ Export of Political Literature many, North Korea, Cuba, UJC. and West Germany published books, bro­ 5114. SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Will the chures and periodicals (monthly, fort­ Mini.ster of HOME AFFAIRS be pleas­ nightly and weekly) during the last ed to state: three years;

    (a) whether every year thousands (b'l if so, (i) name.s- of s^ch printed of political literatures, books and or cyclost.yled literature^ published by periodicals are exported to India by them and (ii) the break-up of the Russia, Eastern European Communist figures of differpRt books, brochures countries, Cuba, North Korea, U.S.A. and periodicals published by them U. K. and West Germany; separately during the same periods; (b) whether most of these political (c) the names of Indian printens and • literatures neither fall to the category publishers of such books, brochures of classical political literature nor to and periodicals; and any standard criterion but are found (d) the nature of legal formalities to incorporate subjects of cheap poli­ required to fulfil by the above Em­ tical propaganda; bassies for publication of their books, brochures and periodicals? (c) if so, number of such political literature exported to India by the said countries during the last three THE :\IINISTER OF INFORMATION years: AND BROADCASTING (SHRI L. K. ADVANI): (a) to (d). Foreign Missions (d) whether such literatures are sold are not required to get their publica­ either free or at a subsidised rate; and tions registered or declarations filed in respect of such publications under the (e) if so, the companies or persons Press Registration of Books Act. 1867. in India who received such exports However, such of these publications in from the above countries and the respect of which, the Mission want to terms and conditions of such import claim postal concessions, are required trade? to be registered with the Registrar ot "3ri9 Wiitten Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 220

    Newspapers for India. Therefore, in­ (d) and (e). By using the irradiated formation in this Ministry is available Thorium blanket in the Fast Breeder only in respect of those periodicals reactor under construction at Kaloak- which have been registered with Regis­ kam, it is proposed to breed Uranium- trar of Newspapers for India for pur­ 233 for use in advanced thermal reac­ pose of postal concessions. The requir­ tors. ed particulars in respect of such of these periodicals for the years 3 974, 1975 and 1976 are contained in the Hindustan Photo Films Manufacturing statement laid on the Table of the Unit in Madras House. [Placed in Library. See No. 5117. SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN: LT-851/77]. WiU the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Preparation of Uranium from Radio­ (a) whether the Hinductan Photo active raw inaterials found in Sea Filmg Manufacturing Company has beach of Kerala plans to set up a new factory at Mad­ ras for undertaking conversion of cine 5116. SHRI SAMAR GUHA: WiU the colour positive, expansion of X-ray Minister of ATOMIC ENERGY be Films and manufacture of industrial pleased to state: X-ray and graphic art films; (a) whether Atomic Energy Com­ (b) if so, the date by which the mission has succeeded to prepare factory 1,3 likely to set up; and Uranium 233 from the radio-active raw materials found in sea beach ot (c) its estimated total cost? Kerala; THE MINISTER OF INDUSTR’i (b) if so, facts about the scientific (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): ia) process of its preparation; Yes, Sir. (c) whether the AEC hag achieved (b) Ten month after final clearancf the technique of its large-scale pre­ of the project by Government. paration and stockpiling; (c) Rs. 210 lakhs. (d) whether any new type of reac­ tors, including breeder reactor will be required for its utilization; and Issue of Letters of Intent (e) if so, facts thereabout and the scheme for utilization of Uranium 5118. SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN Will the Minister of INDUSTRY b( 233? pleased to state: THE PRIME MINISTER fSHRI (a) whether during the las:t finan MORARJI DESAI): (a) Yes, Sir. cial year 545 letters of intent wer' (b ) The Thorium separated from ihe issued by the Government; beach sands is made into fuel and (b) if so, out of it how many hav irradiated. The irradiated Thorium so far i.e. upto ending of June, 197' fuel is dissolved and Uranium-233 is the replies have been received; separated by a chemical solvent ex­ traction process, (c) what is the procedure for await ing the reaction of the persons t (c) The proccss was first tried on a whom these letters of intent ar laboratory scale and then on pn.")): issued; plant scale. Necessary technique anc^. expertise have been developed for (d) how many of them were issue largescale processing, when the r^eed licences and when they are likely t arises. be issued; and ^ 21 Written Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers

    (e) whether Government are consi­ (c) if so, the details of the same? dering this year n(Jf 1;o issue any letteps of intent unlesg the quotas THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI o f last year are fully utilized? MORARJI DESAI): (a) The value of ships acquired or ordered from abroad THE m in is t e r o f INDUSTRY in 1975-76 and 1376-77 come$ tc (SHRI GBOGRE FERNANDES): (a) Rs. 372 crores. (We are still in the The total number of Letters of Intent 4th year of t’ne Fifth Plan). issued during the calendar year, '-OTt: was 547. (b) and (c) In all 23 shipping com­ , (b) and (a) The validity of the panies have tentatively indicated that Letters of Intent is usually 12 months. they propose to acquire 98 ships of 1.4 Within this period the parties are re­ million DWT valued at Rs. 588 crores quired to fulfil the conditions stipulat­ approximately. Broadly, the companies ed in the Letters of Intent. As soon propose to buy liners, bulk earners as the party has fulfilled the conditions, and specalised vessels. he applies to Government for conver­ sion of the Letter of Intent into In­ dustrial Licence. In case the Govorn- ment is satisfied that the party ha.s

    fulfilled the conditions, an indus'r :il 5 120- C >9 ^ licence is issued. JJ5 ^ ?:

    (b) if so, what steps the Ministry (a) whether the representation on are taking to give work to these fac­ behalf of Bihar Colliery Kamgar Union tories; and on Amlabad Colliery of Bharat Coking Coal Limited (Dhanbad) (c) the det-ail,3 thereof? dated 26th June, 1977 has bron receiv­ ed; and THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) to (c) (b) if so, action taken thereof? There is sufficient work load on the Rifle Factory, Ichapore, the Small Ari.is THE MINISTER OF ENERGY rSHRr Factory, Kanpur and the Ordnance P. RAMACHANDRAN): (a) A rcpro- Factory, Trichi. to cover the period up sentation dated 28th June 1977 fro\ to 1978-79. However, there is lack of the Amlabad branch of the Bihar Col­ future orders. To meet this problem, liery Kamgar Union, has been receiv­ production of some additional items in ed the family of small arms is being estab­ lished in these factories. Manufnc- (b) A statement giving the points ture of components I'or sister ordnancc raised and the action taken is attaphed. factories as well as other public sector undertakings i.= also being planned. ( 1 ) Transfer of workers: New building for D.G.O.F. Office in Calcutta Tlie representation mentioned eleven names of persons who have been rjrs- 5122. SHRI SAUGATA ROY- W;!j ferred from Amlabad. These per:iou3 the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased were transferred consisdering the e'ci- to state; gencies of work to meet specific re­ quirements of manpower in other (a) whether tliere is any proposal mines. However, two workers have for having a new headquarters build­ been transferred back to Amlabad on ing for DGOF office in Calcutta; compassionate grounds, consider.ug (b) whether land has been acquir­ their age, etc. Another person has ed for that purpose; and been transferred to Jealgora on his own request. (c) the details of the progress made in the matter? (2) Regidarisation of casual workers:

    THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE In accordance with the company’s (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) Yes, Sir. policy, such of the casual employees who had put in 240 days attenda.ice (b) Yes, Sir. on surface or 190 days underground (c) A new building for DGOF heart- against permanent vacancies, v’ere quarters is proposed to be constructed regularised with effect from 1st Octo­ at 10-A, Auckland Road, Calcutta ber. 1976. Casual workers who put Necessary Planning work for determir.- in a similar number of attendances ing the requirernenls of floor area, working on diflerent jobs were also power supply etc., has been compl;4 ?r| regularised subsequently. The case of and a preliminary estimate prepared, of Shri Shatrughan Mahato and Si:iri which is under the consideration Ram Jatan Bhuiya fell in the latter Government. category. Accordingly, these two per­ sons were regularised from 8th January 1977, and 2nd March, 1977 respectively. Representation of Bihar Colliery The cases of Shri Rajendra Kouri, Kamg:ar Union of B.C.C.L. Smt. Nehali Rajwarin and Smt. Sarothl Bourin, are under consideration for 5123. SHRI A. K. ROY; Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to regularisaton alongwith other simi­ larly placed casual wagon loaders. state: 225 Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 226

    (3) Removal of Shri Jokhiman Hari- (b) whether it is a fact that the jan: , Department of Personnel and Admi­ His services were dispensed with nistrative Refoi'ms issued instructibn following an equiry in which he was for coffflrm&tion; given full op^jortunity to defend him­ self. However, on compassionate gfbunds, he has been taken back in (c) whether i^ is a fact that despite service. instruction, the confirmation has been denied to the stenographers working (4) Case of Shri Sitaram Prasad. in Defence on loan basis inflicting He had tendered his resignation great financial loss; and under the Voluntary Retirement Scheme of the Company, which was (d) if so, what step3 the Govern­ accepted. It was later found that he could not be covered under this ment propose to take to do justice, to Scheme. His reauest for withdrawal the stenographers working on loan of his resignation was conceded. basis? (.')) Case of Shri Bahai Chandra, Underground Trammer: THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFA- Management have issued instruc ras (SHRI CHARAN STNGH: (h) tions to take him as a regular employee. to (d). This relates to six Grade III (6) Implementation of Award of In­ Stenographers—five belonging to the dustrial Tribunal No. 1 in respect of Department of Food and one <0 fhe Shri Dharamdeo Singh and Shri Ualblr Department of Education—who have Singh: been working in the Ministry of De­ The mailer is under examination. fence on loan basi.s from dates earlier

    7. Building of Co-operative .society than the initial constitution of this and Canteen used by Security Per­ grade with effect from l-8-l!)(i!). The sonnel; Ministry of Defence has been re­ quested to absorb these Steno­ Steps have been taken to start a canteen shortly and also to revive the graphers on a permanent basis. Co-operative Society. While they are agreeable to do so, the point at dispute is about the date from which the Stenographers are to be absorbed and confirmed as ConHimatloii of Stenographers in their seniority, vis-a-vis that of the Ministry of Defence Stenographers in that Ministry, who 5124. SHRi A. K. ROY: Will the have already been confirmed, depends Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be upon the dates of absorption ind con­ pleased to state: firmation. The matter was considered in inter-depatmental meetings and by (a) whether persons junior to ste­ nographers Grade III working in the the Central Secretariat Services Btard. Ministry of Defence on loan basis On the basis of the advice of ihe Cen­ from other C.S.S.S. cadres have been tral Secretariat Service "Board, the "confimed; Ministry of Defence; w«re reque^^d, to ;1705 LS—8. 2^7 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 228

    absorb these Stenographers from a Freedom fighters who had entered date prior to 1-8-1971 the date on which Government service at an advanced Stenographers in the Ministry of De­ age would have ordinarily done so fence were conflrmed, so that they can after availing themselves of the age be confirmed in the cadre oi that relaxation allowed in their favour Ministry with effect from 1-8-1971 and under the Grovernment orders. The their senority protected. The matter is Department of Personnel and Admn. being considered In the Ministry of Reforms had no information about Defence. the cases of those who entered Gov­ ernment service at an advanced age but without age relaxation.

    Frccdem Fiflit«rB amonffst Govtm- ment Servants ^ c

    5125. SHRI R. K. MHALGI; Will 5 12 6. ^ the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state:

    (a) whether Government are aware ^ ^ that there is a large number of Gov­ ernment servants who were freedom flghters and who entered government service before 31st December, 1951 at an advanced age without getting age reluation under Government orders ^'TfT 'R of November, 1948 and February, I : 19»1; (^ ) irf? ^ ^ 5?r (b) whether these Government ser­ fejiT ir ^ ^ I vants are being denied the benefits ^ I ? of addition upto five year.s to their pensionable service under Government snrf qto THTiFirJT ) : orders of July, 1975; and

    (c) if so, what steps are being taken %f)[r to remove this injustice? ■ o ' gnTlf, 197 7 ^ \5 ir 5% ^ ^ ^ ^ I I THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): (a) to (c) . The concession of weight- SETTf? ^ ^ age in qualifying service for pension V contained in the Government % ^ t| 1 1 orders dated 11th July, 1975 is ad- m i^ ble to those Government ser­ ' ‘Ifi'Sj'*'! I M?.’ » c- ^_ vants'who participated in the natiimal movement, and who entered Govern­ ment service by availing themselves ITT^T ' of the concession of relaxation of age in terms of the instructions dated ^ 5trfsnfKT*r ^ 29-.ll-ia48 and 14-2-1951. The ques­ tion of allowing a similar cpncessipn to those who enter Government servite within the prescribed lage ^ % «FJT ^ 5PTtTT,, I ilinut, does not,arise, as hy the ;time t^gy retire or ret^r^^, would hftVe feaoftied ihill pension. «IT f?W?r>r ^ 2 29 Written Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 230

    tfrfFT^ fERf % THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (B) The road ^T?r. % ,f^ 5T^ ^5TT^ falls within the States of Assam and »T(T f I ^ I — ( 1 ) >cfk Arunachal Pradesh and is maintained by the respective States in their juris­ ^. spfrJT ?flT f ^ R c f ^ ^3^ ^ T ( 3 ) (b) Does not arise. qfrf^qrr ^?TT?f % 'JT ^ (c) No report to this effect has been im 'i SFT>T^, f s R ^ received by the Central Governnient. ^ fcrr 1 (d) Does not arise.

    TT^V 3^T ?fyf^ i|- 3Tf 'TfT'T^'T^TT t ^ T ^rHi<;'l ?T*V^ Employment in the Proof Experl* ^crm^T 5-?r f tt^t ^ 1 meutal Establishment ^ra-cir^T ^ s^'f ^ «T!;m ^ i,- 5128. SHRI S. KUNDU: WUI the ^ Tfr I ! fV^TrT ^ T Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to > ff'T'^TW T' ii‘, state: ^■\ ii- jtsip- (a) how many people are employed ^■~, Mi"^''•)«! f^ci

    Tezu-Sadia Rond in Assam THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI JAGJrVAN RAM); (a) The personnel employed in proof and Ex­ 5127. SHRI K. B. CHETTRI: Will perimental Establishment Balasore the Minister of SHIPPING AND are as under; — TRANSPORT be pleased to state:

    (a) whether Tezu-Sadia road in Year Gazetted Non- Gazettcd Assam has been maintained by C.P.W.D.;

    (b) if so, the amount of expenditure 1967 17 691 incurred for the repair of this road 1971 23 932 during the last three years; 1977 26 1057 (c) whether the movement of the vehicles are very often hindered on this road; and (b) There is a scheme to modernise and up date range facilities and Ins­ (d) if ISO, what action Government trumentation. There is no expansion proposed to take in this regard? scheme at present under consideration. 231 Written Answers JULY 27, 1977 Written Answers 232

    Frice of HMT Tractm this tractor; and the reasons for such a high cost when it is being made 5129.. SHRI G. NARSIMHA RED­ here; and DY: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (c) the r.amber of times the prices of HMT tractors has ben increased (a) the cost of HMT tractor per from the inception of the Pinjore H.P. when compared to Escort and unit and the reasons for such frequent Swaraj Tractors on H.P. basis; increase in the prices? THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (b) what was the price of imported (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) Zetor tractor in the last year of its The required information is given import compared to the present cost of below;

    Model H.P. Current scllinjt pricc (f.o.r. desti­ nation per H.P.)

    HMT—Zctor 25 Rs. 1,542 80

    Escorts— 3036 35 R'-., 1,167 34 Swaraj— 724 23 6 Rs. 1,549 87

    (b) and (c). The ex-factory price aulic arrangement; if so, the number of Zetor tractor last imported against of tractors so supplied to different 1909-70 requirements was Rs. 17,380. States; and The current ex-factory price for the indigenised tractor is Rs. 33,700. The increase in the price is due to escala­ (c) whether there was any dispute tions in prices of raw materials and between the foreign collaborator and components. It is mainly due to such the HMT due to which hydraulic escalations that the price of the HMT devices could not be manufactured Zetor tractor has been increased without the technical assistance of the seven times since it was first fixed in collaborators, if so, the present state November, 1972. of relationship?

    Foreign Collaboration with HMT for Production of Tractors THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) 5130. SHRI G. NARSIMHA RED­ Yes, Sir. M/s. Hindustan Machine DY: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Tools Ltd. are manufacturing 2ietor tractors in collaboration with M/s. Motokov Foreign Trade Corporation (a) whether there was any col­ of Czechoslovakia. The agreement laboration agreement/arrangement was approved on the basis of royalty with any foreign country for the pro­ @ per cent (taxable) and lumsum duction of HMT Zetor tractors; if so, payment of Rs. 9.80 lakhs for supply the details thereof; of technical documentation and (b) whether the HMT tractors were Rs. 4; 12 lakhs for preparation of supplied in recent days without hydr­ Detailed Project Report, ^ 233 Answers SrAVANA 6, lto9 (SAKA) Written Answ&rs 2^

    (b) Yes, Sir. 1543 tractors wer6 supplied

    (b) the number of tractors produc­ ed in each year upto 31-3-1977 as Himachal Pradesh 20 against installed capacity; and the rea­ Andhra Pradesh 2^ son for under-utilisation 'o l the cap­ acity in different years; and Bihar • 84

    Chandigarh • 35 (c) ihe proposed measures fOr im­ proving the performance of this unit Gujarat 14 alongwith the improvement of quality Haryaiia 299 of tractors? Jammu & Kashmir .5 THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY Maharashtra 7 (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) Madhya Pradesh • 126 The total inve'stment made by HMT in tractor division at Pinjore as on Delhi • IOC 31-3-77 is R.^- 1196 lakhs. The rate of Punjab • 341 return during the last three years has

    Rajasthan 76 been as under: —

    Karnataka ■ 133 Year Rate of Returu Uttar Pradesh 275

    22';;, T otal 1,543 1974-75 - 11/ 1975-76 4 /o

    1976-77 Accounts not yet finalised. The hydraulics have since been sup­ plied and fitted on all these tractors. (b) The required information is (c) No, Sir. Technical assistance given hereunder: was provided by the collaborators to enable indigenous manufacture of hydl-aulics. Year Production Installed Capacity

    Production of Tractors in HMT 8,000 nos. 1974-75 6,800 nos. 5131. SHRI G. NARASIMHA 1975-76 7,000 nos. 8,000 nos. REDDY: Will the Minister of IN­ 1976-77 4,500 nos. 8,000 nos. * DUSTRY be pleased to state: 235 V/ritten Answer^ J u l y St, idii Written Answers 236

    The under-utilisation of capacity us of about 80 per cent in the paper partly due to improvement in availa­ industry. The main reasons for ihi.; bility of tractors manufactured by are: other units in this range and partly due to delay in the supply of hydrau­ (i) reported lack of demand lics from indigenous sources. (ii) competition irom the large (c) Steps have been taken to estab­ paper milia lish indigenous sourceg for manufac­ ture and supply of hydraulics. Tlie (lii) power shortage manufacture of critical componeiiis (iv) uneconomic cost of produc­ ]ike elements of hydraulic housing tion. kas been established at Pinjore. The production is being diversified to in­ (c) As regards power shortage, the clude manufacture' of tractors in the Central Government have impressed higher HP range. Steps have ab>o upon the concerned State Govein- been taken for establishing R&D faci­ mcnt VState Electricity Boards tnc lities. need to en:ure un-interrupted .suppiy o f p ow er to the DaDSr induylry boi-ii Effect of Shortage of Sheet Capacitors generally and in ioeciflc cases. on Rural Electrification in Karnataka In order to enable the small paper 5132. SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAIs'; Will mills to compete succe.';slully wixn the Minitser of ENERGY be pleased large mills and to improve their eco­ to state whether there is a shortage nomic viability^ bubsianlidl excise con­ of sheet capacitors in Karnataka cessions hQ\’t) b'!cn announced durin;j thereby impeding the tem po of rural the current year's budget. The capa­ electrification? city utilisation of the small papei t h e m in is t e r o f e n e r g y mills is expect 1,'d to increase cn l>'-- (SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN); The count of the demand situation, whicn reference in the question appai'antly is showing signs of impiovemenL. is to “Shunt Capacitors”. The tempo of rural electrification in Karnatana Civil Rights Commission is not_ impeded due to shortage of .0134. SHRI D. B. CHAND'RE Shunt Capacitors. GOWDA: Will the Minister of IIOMK Utilisation of Capacity in Small Paper AFFAIRS be pleased to state: - Plants , (a) whether Central Government 5133. SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN; Will have decided to appoint a Civil Rights Commission to protect the interests the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: of the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes and other minorities but the (a) whether the small scale paper proposed Commission cannot protect producing plants are being run accord­ the rights of some of these groups ing to tSielr installed capacity; because they had not been properly (b) if not, the reasons therefor; and identified as yet; (c) the steps Government have (b) whether some States have also taken to ensure the capacity utilisa­ identified the backward classes; and tion of the plants? (c) if so, the names of such States and the criteria Government have ad­ THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY opted in this regard? (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) and (b). The capacity utilisation ol THE MINISTER OF HOME the small paper mills has been about AFFAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH); 60 per cent. only during 1976, as (a) A decision to set up a Civil against an overall capacity utilisation Rights Commission to ensure that the 237 Written Answers SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 238

    Scheidiiled Castes, Scheduled Tribei THE MINISTER OF HOME and otheq minoiities do not suffer AFFAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): from discrimination or inequfdity has (a) and (b). For Madhya Pradesh, been taken by Government. The ob­ a tribal sub-plan has been jvepared ject is to ensure better protection of covering all areas having more tha“ their rights with due regard to the 50 per cent tribal population. The relevant Constitutional provisions. flow of funds from the State Plan (b) and (c). A statement is laid to the tribal sub-plan of Madhy«, On the Table of the House. [Piacrti Pradesh will be Rs. 210 crores in the in Library. See No. LT-853/77J. Fifth Plan. Special Central Assist-' ance of Rs. 50.57 crores will also be Davelopment of tribal areas of Madhya provided by the Government of, Pradesh India. The total outlays (for the tribal sub-plan for the current fin­ 5136. SHRI SUKHENDRA SINGH: ancial year is Rs- 67.65 crores, out WiiU the Minister oi HOME AF­ of which Rs. .53.24 crotreai is frooi FAIRS be pleased to state: State Plan and Rs. 14.41 crores la (a) the amount which Government Special Central Assistance. ^ i propose to spend to develop the tri­ ~ The sector-wise break up of tne bal areas of the Madhya Pradesh; Fifth Plan outlay as also for the and current ytar is given in the Stajto- (b) the details in this regard? ment. ..^1. Statem ent Sector-wise break-up of the 5th Plan outlay arid also for the current financial year of State Plan * and Special Ceniral Assistance (Rs. in Crorei)

    State-Plan Special Central Asiirftirico^ acctor 5th Plan Outlay for 5th Plan Outlay fi* Outlay 1977-78 Outlay 1977-78 . . • 1 I. Agriculture . . 67 50 IK-77 25 26 8-00 2. Co-operation . . 7 00 I 56 8 50 3- Water & Power Dev. . 56 50 15 57 —— 4- Industry & Minerals . 5-33 I 23 3-00 *"’ ^•75 5- Transport & Communication 20 00 3 42 3 00 1.0 -W : 6. Social & Community Services 50 62 12 69 7-81 2 73 3 00 7- Economic Services . . — 3 00 ; : ‘ , —

    T otal . • 2X000 53 24 50 57 14-41

    Janta Refrigerator (b) if so, its price and the data on which it is likely to come In th# 5137. SHRI K. MAUL ANNA: Will market for the public ase? the Minister of INDUSTRY bJ pleas­ ed to state: THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDBS): (a) (a) whether a low-pricad ‘Janta’ Refrigerator has recently been manu­ and (b). A refrigerator called "P*^ serve” (Capacity 85 litres) manufac­ factured by the Andhra State-owned tured by the Andhra Pradesh State- •Allwyn Metal Work# \

    owned M/s. Hyderabad Allwyn ReUy fast by Union leaders of C.SJ.O. M«tak Works Limited was put in the 5139. DR. VASANT KUMAR Market foi^ eaie 'all over India in PANDIT: October/November, 1976. Its ex- DR. LAXMINARAYAN fMtpry pricf is stated to be Rs. PANDEYA; Its price fer custwners SHRI BHAQAT RAM: differs from place to place depending Will the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state: upon freight, handling and other out- (a) is it a fact that the Union station expenses like stocking, in­ leaders of the Central Scientific Ins­ terest, zonal office gelling and other trument Organisation, a Public Sector expenses, salt's and otherr local taxes Unit, are on relay fast for the last 15 days; etc. (b) what are their aemands and what efforts have been done to nego­ tiate them with the Workers’ Union and Employees’ Association; (c) is it a fact that the Unions in other C.S.I.R. units are supporting .S138. the demands of the CSIO employees; and ir fh ^ fT'TT (d) the steps taken by the Govern­ fwr : ment to avert further agitation by the workers? (^ ) w r »f»rr THE PRIME m in is t e r (SHRI % ^r% oZT^cPff ^ MORARJI DESAI): (a) to (d). A Statement is laid on the Table of thp ^T^cTT 5TT Tft | House. Statement ( ^ ) rft srY?:r It is reported that some {>ersons f t ? styling themselves as “Union” leader.q of the Central Scientific Instruments Organisation (CSIO), Chandigarh are on relay fast since 23rd June, 1977. ( t ) I Their major demands and the posi­ tion of the C.S.I.R. relating to them ( ^ ) Jm I is reproduced below:

    Maior Demands of the “ Union” C.S.I.R. position

    (i) Di^claring CSIR a". Statutory Body The question was con.idered on various occa’.ions and it was not four»d to be appropriate for a research body. (ii) Recagaition of the Federation of C.SIR CSIR not being an ‘industry’ the question Employees* & Worker^.’ Union and A.so- of recognition of Trade Unions does not ciation&and its affiliated Units ar’sc. (iii) Removal of victimisation on account of There ha4 b«n no victimisatit n fc r Trade Trade Union activities. Uni n activities. (iv) Uniform Promotion Policy . CSIR being engaged in R&D activities, employing scientifio. technical & Auxi­ liary technical, Administrative and Class IV Staff, it is not possiWe to have a uni­ form promotion policy for all categories. i^i Wriiien Answers SfeAVANA 5, 1899 (MitA) Written Answers

    The above decisions of the CSIR position that in a scientific body they have bepn communicated to all the cannot function as Unions but must National Laboratories/Institutes of conform to the formalities and condi­ the- CSIR. tions of recognition of Service Asso­ ciations; Their other grievances refer to Elections to the CSIO Club, proper canteen facilities, confirmation of staff ^ if wiff fTT ftrvm and likewise etc. which are being look­ ed into. 5141. :

    The Senior officers of CSIO, Chandigarh and the CSIR have had : a series of meetings with the varioas members of the “Union”. The (^) fUT ^ ^ % fqw “Union” leaders had also met the Director-Gcneral, CSIR at New ^ Delhi. The Vice-Presidcnt^ CSIR and ^ ' r ^ fsr^FRr Minister of Education and Social ^ ?«n

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    (?!■) ^ ^ m ^T ^j;?rT I ■ 5fT7; f^r^TT I ?tY?: WT ^sfH- Cf^ ^5RT Use of foreien brand names in Indi­ TTI ^- ?1TTT'^ f%^T ^ genous Products T^T ^ ', 5142. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL RED­ DY; Will the Minister of INDUSTRY ( jt) qf? ?rt 'K be pleased to state: (a) whether Government had de­ ^ % SPTT I ? cided not to allow the use of foreign brand names to be used for products n? («ft ^TOT f« 5 ) :(^ ) % indigenously manufactured; ^(jt). 5riTg;f^ ^5TT^f ^ (b) if so, the names of firms who are using foreign brand names for sr^srrfcpff % f?n^ f^?TT ^rfemrt ^ their products indigenously manufac­ 338 JT tured; and ^4 7 Written AnsiiiiSrs JULY i7, 1677 Written Antwita i48

    (c) action taken against them? brand names can be taken up by them under the Common Law. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) Charges ai:aiiut Chief Minister of to (c). Under Government’s current Assam policy, foreign brand names are not ordinarily allowed to be used on pro­ 5143. SHRi PRASANNBHAI MEH­ ducts meant for internal sales while TA: Will the Minister of HOME AF­ there is no objection to their use on FAIRS be pleased to state: products for exports. This policy is followed both when permission is (a) whether it is a fact that Union given by the Fort'ign Investment Government had received memoran­ Board for foreign collaboration and dum containing charges against the while dealing with applications re­ Assam Chief Minister; ceived under Section 28(1) (c) of the (b) if so, whether Government Foreign Exchange Regulation Act have decided to hold the enquiry; (FERA). Section 28(i)(c) of FERA is, however, applicable only when the' (c) when the Enquiry Committee use of the foreign trade marks in­ is likely to be appointed; volves a direct or indirect outgo of (d) whether all the Chief Ministers foreign exchange. The term “foreign who were holding this post at the trade marks” is not defined in the time of Emergency have been charged statute. But the general concept of and there is a great demand for set­ a foreign trade mark is that it is a ting up of an enquiry against them; trade mark owned by a person whose and legal status is that of a foreigner and it is on this basis that several non- (e) if so, the reaction of the Union nationalg have registered their trade Government? marks in India and continue to apiily for the registration of their trade THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ marks. Out of a total of 88,010 trade FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): marks on the Register of Trade Marks (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. The memoran­ as on 31st March, 1976, the number da of allegations are being processed of foreign trade marks is 28,427. Not in accordance with the usual proce­ all the 28,427 registered foreign trade dure. marks are in use in India. The ques­ tion of the use of a trade mark arises (d) and (e). No, Sir. All the per­ only if the goods to which it is ap­ sons who were holding the office of plied are available for sale or any Chief Ministers of States during the purpose of trade in the country, for period of emergency declared in June without vendible goods a trade mark 1975, have not been “charged”. dofcte not exist. Under the Trade and Merchandise Marks Act, registra­ Memoranda of allegations have tion for the use of trade marks (whe­ been received against some Chief ther Indian or foreign) is not com­ Ministers and former Chief Ministers; pulsory. Even if the registered pro­ and these are being processed in ac­ prietor of the registered users of cordance with the usual procedure. trade marks/brand names do not get Two Commissions of Inquiry, themselves registered under the Act, headed by Shri J. R. Vimadalal, a they are free to use these trade marks Retired Judge of Hifih Court and and no action can be. taken under the Shri A. N. Grover, a Retired Judge of Trade and Merchandise Marks Act. Supreme Court have been appointed Non-registration under the Act de­ to inquire, respectively, into the alle­ prives them only of the legal protec­ gations against the Chief Ministers tion which is available under the Act. and other Ministers of Andhra Pra- ^ However any infringements of their desh and Karnataka. 249 SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Papers Laid 250

    12.25 hrs. (ii) The Indian Administrative PAPlfRS LAID ON THE TABLE Service (Recruitment) Amend­ ment Rules, 1977 published in Review and A nnual Repoht of Mogul Notification No. G.SJl. 865 in Line Limited for 1975-76 Gazette of India dated the 9th THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI July, 1977. MORARJI DESAI); I beg to lay on the Table a copy each of the follow­ (iii) The Indian Administrative ing papers (Hindi and English ver­ Service (Fixation of Cadre sions) under sub-section ( 1 ) of sec­ Strength) Tenth Amendment tion 619A of the Companies Act, Regulations, 1977 published in 1956: — Notification No. G.S.R. 867 in (1) Review by the Government Gazette of India dated the 9th on the working of the Mogul July, 1977. Line Limited, Bombay, for the year 1975-70. (iv) The Indian Administrative (2) Annual Report of ihe Mogul Service (Pay) Sixth Amendment Line Limited, Bombay, for Rules, 1977 published in Notifica­ the year 1975-76 along with tion No. G.S.R. 863 in Gazette of the Audited Accounts and the India dated the 9th July, 1977. comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon. I Placed in Library. See No. LT- 833/77.] [Placed in Library. See No. LT- 831/77.] Annual Report etc. of National Annual General Administrative Re­ Film Development Corporation port OF THE Andaman and Nicobar Ltd., New Delhi for 1975-76. Admini.?tkatton for 1975-76 and Notifications under All-India Ser­ v ic e s A c t . THE MINISTER OF INFORMA­ TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI THE MINISTER OF HOME AF­ L. K. ADVANI): I beg to lay on the FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH); I Table a copy of the Annual Report beg to lay on the Table: — (Hindi version) of the National Film (1) A copy of the Annual Gene­ Development Corporation Limited, ral Administration Report New Delhi, for the period from 1st (Hindi and English versions) May, 1975 to 31st March, 1976 along of the Andaman and Nicobar with the Audited Accounts and the Administration for the year comments of the Comptroller and 1975-76. [Placed in Library. Auditor General thereon, under sub- See No. LT-832/77.] •section (1) of section 619A of the Companies Act, 1956. [Placed in (2) A copy each of the following Library. See No. LT-834/77.] Notifications (Hindi and Eng­ lish versions) under sub-sec­ tion (2) of section 3 of the Notification under Haper (Conserv­ All-India Services Act, 1951: ation and Regulation ok Use) Order, Papj® (Control of Produc­ (i) The Indian Administrative tion) Amendment Order, Notifica­ Service (Appointment by Promo­ tion continuing order re A n d h ra tion) Second Amendment Regula­ Scientific Co., Ltd., Machilipat- tion, 1977 published in Notifica­ NAM, Certified Accounts etc. of tion No. G.S.R. 864 in Gazette of Khadi and Village Industries Com­ India dated the 9th July, 1977. mission for 1974-75, etc. 251 Papers Laid JULY 27, 1977 Papers Laid 252

    THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (ii) A statement (Hindi and Eng­ (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): I lish versions) showing rea­ beg to laj' on the Table:— sons for delay in laying the above papers. [Placed in (1) A copy of Notification No. Library. See No. LT-838/77.] S.O. 243(E) (Hindi and Eng­ lish versions) published in Repo!(ts of Com ptroller and Auditor Gazette of India d;ited the General of India for 1976— U n io n 18th March. 1977, i :;ued under Government (Commercial) Parts clause 5 of the Papor (Con­ IV AND V AND N otifications t'NncK servation and Regulation of Govt. Savings Certificates Act. Use) Order, 1974. \Placed in Library. See No. LT-835/77.J THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND CIVIL SUPPLIES AND CO­ OPERATION (SHRI MOHAN DHA- RIA): Sir, on behalf of Shri H. M. (2) A copy of the Papr- (Cor.- Paiel, I beg 10 lay on the Table: — trol of Production") Amend­ (1) A copy each of the followinR' ment Order. :'.977 (Hindi and ("Hindi and English versions) English versions) publishfc! un.'.L'v ;a-ticle 151(1) of 1he Constilu- in Notification No. wS.O. 41i!(K) lion ; in Gazette of India ri ited the 27th June. 1977. under i-ub- (i) Report of the Comptroller section (6) of Kcctijn S of and Auditor General of India for the Essential Commodities the year 197G—Union Goveinmcnt Act. 1955. rPlaccrJ 711 Lihrarv. ( Commereial)—P:irt TV—Indivi­ Sep. No. LT-83G/77.1 dual points of inUjre.st and a Re­ : unie of the Company Auditors' Reports. (3) A copy of Notification No. S.O. 407(E) (Hindi and Enc- (ii) Report of the Comptroller lish versions') published in and Auditor General of India for Gazette of India da+ed the the year 1976—Union Government 22nd June. 1977 containini:: (Commercial) —Part V—Maza.t;'in the Order regarding conti­ Dock Limited. [Placed in Library. nuance of control over the See No. LT-839/77.1 ' management of Mesr^r.s. An­ (1) A copy each of the following dhra Scientific Coninany NoliC'Cui ions (Hindi and English Limited, Machili.oalnam. under \ersior,s') under sub-scction (3) of sub-section (2) of scction 1CA r;<'('ion 12 of the Government Sav­ of the Industries (De^'clop- in;;;; Corlificates Act, ment and R('gulatlon) A'.t, 1951. \Placed hi. Lihr.iry. (i) The Post Office Snvinrs See No. LT-337/77.1 Cerlificatos (Amendment) Rule.^, 1977, published in Notification No. G.S.R. 914 in Gazette of India (4) (i) A copy of the Certified dated the 16th July, 1977. Accounts of the Khadi and (ii) The National Savinas Cer­ Village Industries Commis­ tificates (Fourth Issue) (Second sion for the year 1974-75 Amendment) Rules, 1977 publi.=h- together with the Audit Re­ ed in Notification No. G.S.R. 915 port thereon (Hindi and Eng­ in Gazette of India dated the 16th lish versions) under sub-scc- July, 1977. tion (4) of section 23 of the Khadi and Village Tpdn.stri(,K (iii) The National Savings Cer­ Commission Act, 1956. tificate (Fifth Issue) (Second 253 Papers Laid SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) 254

    Amendment) Rules, 1977 publish­ 12.28 hrs. ed in Notification No. G.S.K. 916 in Gazette of India dated the 16th COMMITTEE ON PRIVATE MEM­ July, 1977. [Placed in Library. BERS’ BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS See No. LT-840/77.] F o u rth R eport

    Review and Annual Report, rrc. ok SHRi M. RAM GOPAL REDDY Coal Mines Authority Ltd. (Coal (Nizamabad): I beg to present the India, Ltd.), 1973-74 and Statements Fourth Report of the Committee on Private! Members’ Bills and Resolu­ tions. THE MINISTER' OF E^^ERGY (SHRl P. RAMACHANDRA): I beg to lay on the Table: — Tm JTTTrtt : siweT

    (1) A copy each of the following paper!} (Hindi and English versions) ^5FTT ^ I under sub-section (1) of section 619A EJTR w 3n% t, of the Companies Act, 195G: f ii w r | ^ if (i) Review by the Government mrr 'WTwr fw wr i ^ ?tr on the working of the Coal r.litios - N* Autliority Limited, Calcutta (now kno-vn as the Coal India Limited) w r «fT I 5RT TOFT for the period from 1st May, 1973 3ft ^ trw>d ^ ^WTT<0 to 31st March, 1974. t . . (ii> Annual Report of the Coal Minos Authority Limited, Calcutta (nov; known as the Coal India Limited) for the period from 1st May, 1973 to 31st March, 1974 alon? with the Audited Accounls SHRI JYOTIRMOY P.OSU (CDia- and the comments of the Comp­ mond Harbour): I have given you troller and Auditor (»enorat notiop thenson. \Placed in Library. Sec No. LT-841/771. MR. SPEAKER: Will you kindly come and di.'Jcuss with me in my (2) A statement (Hindi and Eng­ Chamber‘d lish versions) showing reasons for SHRI V. ARUNACHALAM (Tin>- delay in laying the above papers. nelveli): In connection with the ^Placed in Library. Sep No. LT- letter written by the Prime Minister 841/77]. to the Chief Mini'^ter of Madras... (3) statement (Hindi an.l Eng­ MR. SPEAKER- Piease come and lish versions) showing reasons I'or discuss with me. No. discussion here. delay in laying the Annual Report ’ Please come to mv Chamber. of the Bharat Coking Coal Limited SHRI JYOTIRVOY: BOSU: I for the year 1974-75. f Placed fn hnve written to you. Library, See No. LT-842/77]. MR. SPEAKER: You have written to me but I would liko to discuss it with .you before I allow it.

    ♦The Report was laid on the Table on the 11th August, 1976. 455 PWB & R Comm, keport JULY 27, Wt1 256

    SH.R[ JYOTIRMOY BOSU ; Where 12.82 fan. ' is the time for us that way? I have written to you before 10 O’Clock. I MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 want to mention the matter for gett­ (i) Reported closure of jute M Ills in ing a cl Brification. Katihah, Nohth Bihar resulting IN UNEMPLOYMENT TO 3500 WOR- MR. SPEAKER: Not today. KEKB.

    SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I am sorry 3 ou cannot shut me out. I have written to you. I am within my fTSfT TRJT | rights, under the rules.

    MR. SPEAKER: It can be done ^ ?TRo rr^To rrrfo j w only with my permission, not other­ t ^'T ^ fq- ^ ^ t tftsr- consider the matter. JTTT f t I ffT^TT f t ?T^, ^ f t SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I have fsr^rr ^ 80 ?rrer ?rnnTt ?rt7 not been informed. ?rra’Tra’ % rft?r ^ f ^ r r MR. SPEAKER: You will be duly informed. ^Tfrft ^ t, '3'T% wt SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: The rr^ >TTT?3TT t I information has to come before 12 ^ ’T^JTra' ?TP^t ^ O’clock. It has not come to me. * Cs ft,- - ^ o % ^T^r?r % ■­ % MR. SPEAKER: Please come to my Chamber. ft r^FTT %5?TT^^ t • SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I want only one minuute. WWIW t !ErFT% inWT MR, flPEAKER: I do not allow. % JTf ?ft JTTT^rr =5nfarr g f%3ft SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: How? 5?n:r ^ «tt, ,^5 »ft 14 MR. SPEAKER: I will consider ^?=rrt % ^ ^ ^TiTT I ?ltT tile m«.tter. If you want, you can 8 - 3 - 7 6 % ^ % disouss it with me. # iT3r^ ?ftT ^ SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: It is ^3 IT? ?: srtr about___• • fTflr ff.ar »mT 1 MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will go on ^'t % f^*rT»T % !T?^

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    [Shri Saugata Roy] ' m w : ftr wft would take firm steps so that further I I retrenchment would be stopped.

    Now, yesterday in the newspapers, TEA (AMENDMENT) BILI^-Contd. we saw a statement of the Chief Minister of West fiengal that when the MR. SPEAKER: We now take up Commerce Minister went to Calcutta further consideration of the Tea (Am­ on 3rd July, the industrialists had endment) Bill Shri Purna Sinha. given a fcertain commitment but that SHRI PURNA SINHA (Tezpur); word has not been kept. The industry Mr. Speaker, Sir, tea is the natural has violated their commitment to the growth of Assam and the eastern parts Commerce Minister. I take leave of of India. Prior to 1833, the East India the House to bring to your kind notice Company had the monopoly trade in that a very serious situation has been Chinese tea. It was only subsequent­ created, that tomorrow all the jute ly that the tea industry developed 5n workers will go on strike and that India and tea gardens were started there will be no production tomorrow, in 1833. resulting in loss of several crores of rupees. Prior to this, China had the mono­ poly trade in tea in the world. The That is why I request the Commerce Chinese tea used to go to London Minister to take immediate steps so market and there it used to be auc­ that the commitment made to him by tioned and sold. Subsequently, only the industry on 3rd July, when he in 1938, tea grown in Assam was went to Calcutta, is fulfilled by the reported, I can te] you, from the his­ industry and kept. Not only that. The tory of tea growing, that the first basic problem of the bonus of workers consignment of 12 boxes of Assam in the jute industry is to be solved. tea was sent out to Calcutta in Also, the retrenchment that is taking January, 1838 which reached Calcutta place till today is to be stopped. I in May following and was shipped to also bring to your kind attention that U.K. in September and was sold there after the Commerce Minister went to in January, 1839 together with Calcutta, two more jute mills have Chinese tea by auction in London declared lock-out, creating an un­ market for the first time in history. precedented situation in which the Government does not seem to have Since then, the tea business has any control on the jute industry. I come to stay. The East India Com­ hope, today or tomorrow, the pany in those days formed a Tea Commerce Minister will make a Committee to investigate how tea cul­ statement on this matter in the House tivation could be developed. The Tea specially when all the jute workers Committee remained a monopoly of in West Bengal are looking to the the planting houses, foreign compa­ Commerce Minister and hoping that he nies and others. will make some statement so that their problems may be sloved. After the Independence, the Tea Board has come to take the position of the Tea Committee or it has be­ feJTT I I come ihe sole statutory body to look after the tea industry. The tea in­ 'TT 'T?T fm 1 1 T?:- dustry recruited labour from Adivasis if ^ ^ TfT | I of Chota , Bada Nagpur and Orissa. They were recruited to work T t t I in tea plantations. Their initial salary was three anhas a day and they were made to serve there compulsorily for t WT ?PFcrT ^ I farfR ^ a number of years. Now, their po­ ^ t I pulation in and around tea industry -26l Te» (Amendment) SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Bill 262

    has grown to about 25 lakhs out of Promotion, Controller of Licensing, which only 6 lakhs are resident work­ Financial Adviser & Chief Accounts ers. Tneir highest daily wage is Officer, Assistant Secretary and regi­ Rs. 4.99 today. They have task rates onal offices at New Delhi, Bombay, also. They live in one-room tene­ Madras, Coonoor, Cochin, Siliguri, ment without any attached bath­ Jorhat, Palampur, Kottayam, Tezpur, room, latrine or any compound worth Silchar and Berinag. There are over­ the name. In 30 years of indepen­ seas offices at London, Brussels, New dence these Scheduled Castes and York, Sydney, Cairo, Kuwait, besides Tribes compositely termed as tea gar­ tea centres in London, Cairo, Syd­ den tribes are not treated as Schedul­ ney and Bombay. ed Castes and Scheduled Tribes in Assam, though they are so in theii The Directorate of Tea Develop­ own home States. They have re­ ment provides loans at the rate of mained so backward that in 30 years, R.s. 11,250 per hectare of plain land they have not been able to produce estate and Rs. 13,750 of hilly land es­ 30 Managers in 1,400 tea estat-33 ol' tate at low rate of interest a.id re­ the State or 30 Lawyers 30 doctor.q, bate for replacement and extension of 30 teachers. 30 Assistant Managers. 30 tea areas and outright subsidy of Engineers and even as many head Rs. 4,000 and Rs. 5,000 per hectare clerks of tea garden officers though lor replanting. There is no check they have been told that they were on proper use of the provision of pay­ free people for 30 years now. Surh ing subsidy for replantation of tea is the development of the economy of gardens is Rs. 4000 for every hectare the tea garden population. They dn case of plain tea gardens and have only a primary school on t^ach Rs. 5000 for hily tea gardens. garden, but the buildings are in a di­ There is also a scheme for sale lapidated condilion. As far as these on hirei-purchase of tea machinery, statutory primary schools are concern­ irrigation equipment, tractors and ed, there is no proper attendance; trucks all sorts of vehicles. For this lliere are no teachers. The te.-icher;, also, the rate of interest is the same. \vho are kept for the purpose of tea­ The intere.st is as low as Rs. 9.3/4 per ching are working in the office, so cent with a rebate for prompt repay­ much importance is given to e^luca- ment of 1/2 per cent—whereas the tion. norn:al bi nk interest rate is 19 per If you go there—some of the Parlia­ cent for investment of the Scheduled mentary Committees should and the Nationalised Banks. The dis­ limes go there- -you can see 'h^ ccir- tricts of Assam which are otherwise ditions of the tea garden workei's backward but due to the existence of and how they are living; thev are liv­ ing in some gardens no better than the Tea Estates, are considered to be the average ghettos of ITegros in the forward and advanced in trade, busi­ most neglected areas of USA or other ness and industry—the young entre­ parts of America or even in Africa. The Tea Board of which perhaps the preneurs among the public do not get Tea Committee of the last century loans from the banks at a low rate was the nucleus, has overall control of interest. There are other reason of the plantations and indirectly it why the Tea Board is a clog between was armed with the Plantation La­ bour Act. Its offices are spread all the growers of tea and the consumers over the world. The enormous funds in niy opinion. that the Tea Board gets to spend are spent after some bureaucratic nomi- The tea as it is produced in the gar­ ness such as the Chairman, the De- puty-Chairman, the Secretary, the Di­ dens is not sold outside and in Delhi rectors of Tea Development, of Tea also. The tea which we in Delhi drink 263 Tea (Amendment) JULY 27, 1977 Bill 264

    LShri Puma Sinha] representation to consumers, labour, is not the tea which is produced in Government and management. There­ Assam because of the intermediary fore, the Tea Act has to be overhaul­ agencies. The Tea Board sells the tea ed, and a composite Bill should be which has got no taste, no flavour and brought in the next Session of Parl­ not also the colour. Though they are iament giving due representation to selling it to the hon. Members at 3U the interests who are concerned with paise per cup, I would submit is no this industry and trade. tea—I can prove it—^the tea which is produced in Assam, if it is offered to The planters of Assam, I imder- the hon. Members here, they will say stand, have made an offer to the hon. that there is 500 times difference bet­ Minister that they are prepared to ween the tea produced actually and sell good Assam tea out of the 20 the tea which the Tea Board has giv­ per cent that is released for internal en us as best tea to consume. The consumption at Rs. 14 to 15 per kg. best tea is exported. So that it is available to the common man in Delhi at that price as against SHRI HARI VISHNU KAMATH; what the Tea Board is selling in Delhi (Hoshangabad): The best tea is being and here in the Canteen in Parlia­ exported. Where’ ment House. The tea which is worth (Interruptions) Rs. 6 per kg. in Assam is sold here at Rs. 31 per kg.—and that too the SHRI PURNA SINHA: Assam tea is tasteless blends, but in colourful Is- the best tea in the world. Again I bles and packets. • can prove it if it is necessary. I have already given some proof of it to I submit that the whole thing, in­ the hon. Members of the House who cluding the business aspect, has to be have taken it and they have appre­ overhajled so that really good tea is ciated it. The Tea Board has not availabe not only to the hon. Mem­ helped to develop the tea; it has help­ bers o f this House but also to the ed to deteriorate the tea which has lakhs o l people in Delhi, Bombay and been actually produced by the produ­ other metropolitan cities. For this cers ip their factories. So, I submit purpose not only the Tea Act has to that the Tea Board should be com­ be amended and compleiely recast tut pletely overhauled. Thia small Am. also the machinery and the system- ot endment Bill about appointment of working o f the Tea Board have to be officers and about emoluments of De­ completely overhauled; new blood puty Chairman will not do. The should be brought in, so that people: qh^nging circumstances of the present get the real tea produced in factories: demand of the Commerce Ministry to and not something by l?lending—by completely overhaul the Tea Boari^ d efectiVC blending, not only the flavour and bring in to it gdme ainount of but every other quality is lost. A democracy. I Caii show you the dis­ cup of tea the cup that cheers, which tribution Of the members of the Tea is known the world over has lost xts Board. The Tea Board has got seven value here at home. What we aW civil servants, including the Chairman, compelled to drink here is not wortn a Deputy Chairman, these two are being called tea at all, _ IAS officers—two M.Ps., seven plan­ ters, five workers’ representatives, I submit, once again, that the Tea two* exporters and internal traders, Act should be completedly overhauled two manufacturers, two consumers and amended, and as has been pro­ and two others of other interests ^per­ posed a new Bill should be brought haps also of the management. So. I in every quickly. find that 20 of them are Government and industry-cum-trade interests as MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Kachwai. against only seven of the labour and SHRI N. SREEKANTAN NAIR consumers. The Tea Board has to be (Quilon): Sir, on a point of infor­ re-con'utituted in order to give equal 265 (Amendment) SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Bill 266 mation. I want to know how much ^ ^ ^ ^ sp> time the |hon. B

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    [«f t Tnr^r up both the motions regarding un­ employment, for which 3J hours are WRTT»T ^ ^ I allotted. ^ ^ ^ ^ mft-- The discussion on SC & ST report ^iftnfr vt, t ^jtkrr will be adjourned in the sense that % «rrfirarRft |, ^ % it will be taken up and continued ^fT^S’ET ’TTT 531^ f?rsTT | I later, if the House has no objection, 3Tf ^ 5T?r 1 1 H iimr f f r SHRI HARI VISHNU KAMATH #«ft »Tft?ir ^ cTOF RTR $it WtT ^K?T (Hoshangabad); On a point of clari­ fication. The motion on unemploy­ »Tre«TRnT t*r ^ ?T3S1T^ fT?5?T ment, I believe, has been allotted two ^r ^3rt ?rf?T ?ft5T fim ^nrnr i 'flY?: t hours. irrernr ^n?^nr ^ sT% f^r^ MR. SPEAKER: We will take it I up at 3 O’clock. The other motion, Mr. Chandrappan's motion is given ^ *T^ % iT^ ’(ft ?T# — li hours. We shall continue with JTfe spt W tr^ f^^ft ^ra both of them together. We can dis­ ^nrnr jft ^ s^t ft«T% 'frt cuss together the motions of Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu and Shri Chandrap- ?TE!TJT^ TT^ pan. These arise from the same sub­ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^r ^T ^JT ’(ft vTRcr ject. 5*TT^ ^ I, lrf%^ ^ (Interruptions) ^ ^ ftren-?t5n szt^ t f l ^ > »T3rf^ ^ f^?TT ^T% ®tHT- Of course it is in the hands of the House to decide one way or the other. ^nrjT, ^ft^TT, JTKT s i^ 5T>T W?2T ^ This Bill is likely to be finished by srTi=?ft % ^TsrfTT % sfTT^ft irra'HTErT ^'t 2.30 P.M. We shall take up the Re­ port at 2.30 P.M. and we shall go ^5^ ipt ^ fe r % ^TTJTRT I on till 3 O’clock. «TT |:5T ^ ^ I f r ^ *T3TfCf % ?^'T ^ ms!T*T % ftren ^teTT %% ^TTSPR ^ 5lftT ^ ^ ^ 5tH SIHT? JJm ( ^

    House. Of coufse, the House is SHRI VAYALAR RAVI (Chirayin- sovereign and can decide on a change. kil): We will go as per the sugges­ But it will b(e rather strange if we tion of the Minister of Parliamentary decide not to take up these motions Affairs. at 2.30 P.M. MR. SPEAKER: All right. MR. SPEAKER: We will be sug­ That Report will be taken up after gesting that this may be taken up the Motions are disposed of. Bt 3 O’clock if the House so agrees. SHRI HITENDRA DESAI: That is SHRI P. K. DEO (Kalahandi): tomorrow. Otherwise we will have There is no quorum. to wait unnecessarily. MR. SPEAKER: We should not go MR. SPEAKER: Tomorrow. into these technicalities. I have no 13.10 hrs- ob|jection to decide after we re­ assemble. After all we are arrang­ The Lok Sabha .adjourned for L unch ing the business of the House for the till Fourteen of the Clock. convenience of the House. SHRI P- K. DEO: This will be an The Lok Sabha re-assembled after encroachment on the time of the Lunch at seven minutes past Fourteen Private Members business. of the Clock. [MR. Deputy-S p e a k e r in the Chlair.] MR. SPEAKER: Suppose the Re­ t e a (AMENDMENT) BILL—Contd. port is taken up at 2.30 p.m. SHRI HARI VISHNU KAMATH: THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE Will the House sit beyond six? Dis­ AND CIVIL SUPPLIES AND CO­ cussion for three and half hours OPERATION (SHRI MOHAN DHA- means 6.30 p.m. RIA): Sir, I am very grateful to the House as also to the hon. Members MR. SPEAKER: If the House so for attaching this importance to a very desires, it will sit beyond six. If important Board in the country. A the House does not desire, it can con­ reference has been made regarding tinue later. It is a matter for the the fimctioning of the Board and I House to decide, it is not for me know that there are certain deficien­ to decide. I am at your disposal. cies and may I, however, bring to You decide. the notice of the House....

    SHRI P. K. DEO: Let us stick to sft srm? s rw : tjrrgzref this List of Business. 5ft, w |?rr? MR. SPEAKER: That is all right. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: It will SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: May come when we consider the Clauses. I suggest that we may stick to the SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: May I Order Paper. bring to the notice of the House the MR. SPEAKER: I will stick to that. progress that the tea industry has made in this country? So far asj SHRI HITENDRA DESAl (Go- acreage is concerned, the land underj dhra): We want to know whether the cultivation of tea which was to the Reports on the Scheduled Castes and tune of 3,42,000 hectares has gone Scheduled Tribes will be taken up? up to 3,64,000 hectares which is the Otherwise, we may not wait here. highest in the world. MR. SPEAKER: That will be taken As regards the yield which was of up. the order of 1,089 kgs per hectare it 375 (Amendment) JULY 27, 1977 Bill 276-

    [Shri Mohan Dharia] cerned, they are the public sector un­ has gone up to 1,355 kgs per hec­ dertakings and it shall be the policy tare. In the Soutnern areas, it is of the government to see that these more than 1,400 kgs per hectare. public institutions function to have The foreign exchange earning, which speedier achievement of our objecti­ was of the, order of Rs. 156 crores in ves. For the socio-economic transfor­ the year 1968-69, has gone up to Rs. mation of the country these institu­ 295 crores in the year 1976-77. tions can play a catalyst role and it is how we should look at these boards. Similarly, the production of tea in the country was of the order of 512 million kgs last year. It was also Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, several the highest in the world. Besides, the members have brought to my notice House will be happy to know that several grievances. One was regard­ we are continuing our efforts to add ing the hold of a few monopolists and more value as was suggested by Shri large houses over thiis whole indus­ Jyotirmoy Bosu. It is in this regard try. Then a point was made about that I want to tell the House the the sterling companies and the multi­ special efforts made by the Tea Board. nationals. The government has al­ In 1971-72, the export items of add­ ready asked the sterling companies to ed value were of the order of Rs. come before the government with 6 crores which have gone up to Rs. their proposals by the end of Decem­ 23 crores. Here I would lik^ to bring ber, 1977 with a view to get them to the notice of the House the efforts Indianised. I am sure the proposals made in regard to the tea package as will come forward and so far as the also to have instant tea. So. what­ defaulters are concerned, a stem view ever has been achieved, that should will be taken by the government. not be undermined. I can very well understand that there are deficiencies and it is in this context I may sug­ Regarding the other hold I do not gest that it is not the amendments want to go into the past but I can to this Tea Act which may bring assure the Members that these boards » m e new returns or revenues but will never function under the thumb it is our whole approach towards this of big monopolists in the country. tea industry, namely, how we operate, They are the autonomous bodies of how we have better cultivation and the gove'rnment and we shall see to cert-ain other efforts being made in it that their autonomy is preserved this respect which will bring better and they function in the industry as returns. It is not only in Bengal and such and not for a few monopolists. Assam but we have gone to Megha­ To that extent if some more changes laya, southern parts of Tamil Nadu, are necessary, including the consti­ some parts of Karnataka, Kerala or tution of membership, that will be wherever the conditions are similar taken care of by the government. including Himachal Pradesh. Efforts are being made to grow tea wherever Sir, the pitiable condition of the it could grown. This is an area workers in these areas has been where we can not only meet the do­ brought to the notice of the House. mestic needs but also we can earn It is true that so far as the workers foreign exchange of a great order. in all these plantations are concern­ When these efforts are being made—I ed, most of them belong to scheduled may with the permission of the House tribes. They are the people from the say—We should not condemn the backward areas and, as we say, bodies that were created to serve this from the backward communities cause. So far as Tea Board or Tea because they could not get that Trading Corporation of India are con­ sort of lift in order to improve 277 Tea (Amendment) SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Bill 278

    their livelihood and the stan- SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: After tak­ ■'►dards of living. Sir, there is the ing charge of this Ministry, I have Plantation (Labour) Act, 1961. How- discussed the matter with the Chair­ evetr, I do agree with the hon’ble man of the Tea Board and other offi­ Members that this plight of the work­ cers concerned and we have taken a ers shall have to immediately im­ decision that for those who want proved. It is in this context, whether to take the facilities out of these it is the responsibility of the State schemes, we shall prepare our guide­ Government, whether it is the res­ lines in the interest of the workers ' ponsibility of the Central Govern­ and those who are prepared to exe­ ment, instead of going into the con­ cute and go according to those guide­ troversy, I would very much like lines in the interest of the workers, to give all possible co-operation to they alone will be given these facili­ the concerned State Governments. ties and not otherwise. I have already May be the Government of West taken that decision. Bengal, may be’ the Government of Assam or the government of Tamil Nadu or other State Governments, wheryver the tea is grown, we would like to give c*Jl possible co­ -operation so that these workers’ plight T?r? is immediately improved. And we have taken one important decision. This >sft «TTfniT : 5ft House may be aware that there are sevtTal schemes. One is regarding ^ ^ t ^ % the Tea Pl’antation Finances Scheme 3TT inft 1 1 under which we have given loans to the tune of R!^. 11,750 per hectare in plains and in hilly areas it is of the it I f 5r?r% iTciTf^ ^ ordei of Rs. 13,750 per hectare for the finances required for taking addi­ I % p - I tional tea plantation. There is a hire We shall encourage co-operatives. purchase scheme where we give loans That is one of the duties of the Tea to the tune of Rs. 10.0 lakhs per plan­ Board. tation for tea machinery and Rs. 5.0 ^ lakhs for irrigation equipment. This loan is made available at cheap rates SHRI M. N. GOVINDAN NAIR of interest. (Trivandrum): How many compEuiies arc still under foreign ownership? Whether they are benefited from all Similarly, there is a re-plantation these facilities which you are offer­ ing them? subsidy scheme according to which We give a clear subsidy of Rs. 4,000 pejr hectare in plains and Rs. 5,000 SHRI MOHAN DHARIA; As I have per hectare in hilly areas. So, these said, these sterling companies will are the s'-hemes meant for this plan­ be necessarily Indianised and the tation industry. Government has already asked them to submit their schemes in that direc­ tion by the end of December 1977. SHRI jr. SRIKANTAN NAIR (Qui- So, so far as the relevance of the lon ): Whiether the, question of pro­ question of th© hon. Member is con­ viding housing facilities to these work­ cerned, he will be pleased to appre­ ciate that when there is a massive ers will be made a pre-condition for programme of Indianisation, natu­ ^vin g aid to these estate owners? rally, whether it goes to this Com- -2,19 Tea (Amendment) JULY 27, 1977 Bill 280

    [Shri Mohan Dharia] live and concrete suggestions from j pany or liat company, it is immate­ the hon. Members, I shall be happy rial. to have them.

    SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Dia­ My friend Mr. Bosu has made a mond Harbour): Is it the equity part suggestion regarding brain trust. Of it or the personnel part of it? course when members like Mr. Bosu are here, I do not think some other SHRI N. SRIKANTAN NAIR: It is brain trust is necessary. Even then, ■ equity ----- I should like to say that whatever cooperation or ideas could be given, SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: No, it We can think about it. This House is both. may be, aware that there is a consul- tave committee of the members of Parliament for this ministry. It has SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: I was re­ been divided into five groups. One ferring to the start made with re­ group is s upposed to be in charge gard to the cooperative movement in of plantation subjects, such as coffee, these areas. I must say that no dent tea, cardamom, rubber, etc. Those has been made by the Tea Board members of Parliament who are at­ so far as boosting up of cooperatives tached to that group will certainly is concerned. But as the minister in function as the brains trust and peo­ charge of civil supplies as well as co­ ple who art- taking interest in the operation, I am very much interested welfare of the country would guide in this subject and I have already Us in the right direction. discussed the matter with those who are in charge. We shall take care and see that more and more of coopera­ SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU; You tive activities are given all possible have stated that 7 per cent of the encouragement in these areas. . . . (I^- total tea produced in our country is ■ terruptions) I am not yielding. sold in the London auction. Perhaps you have lost sight of the fact that MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: If you a lot of tea is sold on consignment go on interrupting like this, there will basis on the High seas and it does not get printed in the catalogue. A be no reply at all. lot of forward sales are finalised and deals are struck and they are not SHRI MOHAN DHARIA; Regard­ printed in the catalogues here or ing the auction system, this House there; they also do not repatriate may perhaps not be aware that tea foreign exchange. It is not so simple auction in London market is a small as that. percentage; it is 7 per cent of the total tea production in India; 7 per cent of tea produced in India is auc­ SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: It is not tioned in the London market. The just that tea is allowed to go out. rest, 93 per cent of tea produced in We have imposed ati export duty of our country is auctioned in our own Rs. 5 per kg and we are very much country. I may also appeal to the interested in every kg of tea that hon. Members to take into considera­ goes out of the country so that ex­ tion the working of tea industry in port duty has to be paid on that. Se­ other countries. And if we want to condly, we ane^ Indlianising all the have international markets for our companies and as soon as they are tea, we shall have to be cautious be­ Indianised aftd their head offices also fore we take any drastic decisions. come to this country, that will help :Howe^rer, if there are any construc- us in having the kind of control that, a8l Tea (Amendment) SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Bill 282

    the hon. Member desires. Monteviot and Edenvale Tea Es­ tate in Darjeeling, ^ So, Sir, I would not like to go into further details because I have already Nahorjan Tea Estate in Sibsagar, assured the House that I will not Chargola Tea Estate in Cachar, take more than twenty minutes. Sephinjuri Bheel Tea Estate in Though TTCI is not the subject of Cachar, the day, some comments are made. I shall look into them. The Bill that way Dooria Tea Estate and Chenijan ' is very simple. The Deputy Chairman Tea Estate in Assam. is already there. Now what we are These are seven tea gardens where doing is legalising that institution. We we have started our investigations. I are now legalising that post because can assure the House that we would it will be possible for him to take care like the whole tea industry to pros­ of the functions of the Chairman, Tea per. It is one of our major indus­ Board, during his absence. tries. It is very much widened so far as the Indian economy is concerned Regarding the pay scales, I have and in this context, v/e would like to already said that it is upto Rs. 1700 strengthen the Board. If there are any that we would like to give this autho- complaints against the Board, the *rity to the Board and above Rs. 1700, Government shall certainly look into the authority will vest with the Gov­ them. These public institutions are ernment and not with the Bo^rd. So the cf l-r.lync agents for the new socio­ far as the third aspect is concerned, economic transformation and in this it is just the procedural aspect sug­ context let us try to strengthen them. gested by one of our Parliamentary Committees. It is in thi.s context. . .. With these comments. I would now plead with the House that the Bill be SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN passed. (Cannanore); What about nationali­ sation of sick tea gardens? MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Before I take up tlie amendments and put Mr. SHRI MOHAN DHARIA : So far as Vinayak Prasad Yadav’s amendment the sick Tea Plantations are concern­ to vote, I would like to say that at ed, the House may be aware that the 2.30 p.m. we are supposed to take up Government has taken over the Vnh the discussion on unemployment. . Tuk Var Tea Estate in Darjeeling, the Hence, I would suggest to the House Pashok Tea Estate in Darjeeling and that we devote another five or ten the Looksan Tea Estate in Jalpaiguri. minutes to dispose of the process Besides, the Kumai Tea Estate! was through which the Bill has to pass taken over on 18-6-77 by an order through. dated 17-6-77 and the management handed over to the West Bengal Tea The question is ; Development Corporation Limited, “That the Bill be circulated for Calcutta. ^ , the purpose of eliciting opinion thereon by the 15th October, Further. Government have issued order under the Tea Act, 1953 for in­ 1977.” (3) vestigation into the affairs of the fol­ The motion u'Of negatived. lowing sick tea gardens by a body of MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The persons consisting of two representa­ question is: tives of Tea Board, one representa­ tive of the concerned State Govern­ “That the Bill further to amend ment and one representative of Bu- the Tea Act, 1953 be taken into, |'-‘ reau of Public Enterprises: consideration.” Okayti Tea Estate in Darjeeling, The m otion was adopted. 383 Re. Unemployment JULY 27, 1977 Problem (Motns.) 284

    MK DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now we SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I will take up clause by clause considera­ try to be as brief as possible, but -Jt' tion. will require a little more time. I understand the Prime Minister is rep­ Clause 2. lying tomorrow. Mr. Lakkappa is not liere. Mr. Sayeed, do you want to move I beg to move : amendment No. 1. “That this House takes serious SHRI P. M. SAYEED (Laksha­ note of the Prime Minister’s promise dweep) : No, Sir. that the unemployment problem will be solved within ten years and MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER ; Mr. strongly recommends that ‘right to • Chettri is not here. Mr. Rajagopal work’ be enshrined in the Constitu­ Naidu. do you want to move your tion to be made effective from a • amendment? target date ■and in the meantime subsistence allowance be given to SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NATDU: No, all the unemployed, invalid and old Sir. people.” MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : The others are not he:x. 'j iie q ;05 ion is; Sir, in November i960, I moved a “That clause 2 stands part of the similar motion on the floor of thts House on this biggest and most ex­ Bill.” plosive problem of the country. To­ The morion was day, We are actually sitting on a live volcano. The 1969 resolution resulted Clause 2 was added to the Bill in the constitution of n Committee on MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The Unemployment, but Mrs. Gandhi took •question is: 13 mohlns -and with f;reat reluctance “That clauses 3 and 4 stand part and under severe pressure, the Com­ of the Bill.” mittee was born on I'tlh December, 1970. I was made a member thereof. The motion was adopted. The terms of referc^-nce of the Com­ Clauses 3 and 4 were added to the mittee were watered down. On 12th Bill. February, 1972 an interim report was Clause 1, the Enacting Fonniila and submitted and for the last two yenrs the Title were added to the Bill. of the fourth plan an allotment of, Rs. 250 crores was recommended. SHRI MOHAN DHARI.A : I beg to Indeed it was a modest sum, In that move : interim report more stress was laid “That the Bill be passed ” cn rural and economic regeneration. ■ MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; The' The recommendations included minor question is; irrigation, soil reclamation and con­ servation, rural roads, expansion of “That the Bill be passed." prmiary education, expansion of rural The motion was adopted. public health facilities, rural housing, inland water transport, drainage for cultivation and flood control, expan­ 14.32 hrs. sion of art'a under multiple cropping, MOTIONS RE. UNEMPLOYMENT and agro-based cottage and smalLscale' PROBLEM industries. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : The Our expectation was that these will House will now take up Shri Jyotir- generate about 40 lakhs of jobs. The moy Bosu’s motion on unemployment. final report was given on 15th May

    ferences with the recommendations. Regarding the conditions in the poor TTiere vfeie 221 recommendations. countries in the world, I am quoting There were eight working groups and from an issue of the U.N. Weekly many talented academicians were Newsletter. It says : harnessed for this job. In spite of all “How poor are the poor? In 1972, that, the entire document remained 700 million people or 39 per cent untouched and unused by the erst­ of the population of developing mar_ while Congress Government. There ket-economy countries, were desti­ was no mention of it even in the tute and suffering from severe mal­ fourth or fifth plan documents. In the nutrition; 67 per cent of the popu­ meantime, Mrs. Gandhi in 1971 sud­ lation were seriously poor. Prelimi­ denly came out with her brain child, nary ILO estimates for 1975 show­ without any blue-print or fact find­ ed that 40 per cent of the popula­ ing, of rural employment crash tion of the developing countries scheme. And, it really crashed itself! either had no work at all or did not Rs. 150 crores were spent during have work that provided adequate 1971-72, 1972-73 and 1973-74. But incomes. regretfully I say that much of the money found its way into the pocket.^ The number of poor have in­ of the henchmen in the ruling party! creased over the last years...... Figures show that the number of The report of the Public Accounts ‘destitute’ people increased in 17 Committee clearly .says ; c'ountries in 1963—72 and the num­ “The crash programme is a good ber of persons suffering from ‘sen- example of how an impoi'tant pro­ cut poverty’ increased in 14. Among gramme should not be undertaken other indicatois of deprivation, in haste so that we will have to UNESCO estimates that the number repent at leisure what we are doing of illiterate adults rose from 700 ilOW.” million in 1960 to 760 million in 1970. The same Committee went on to say: The problem of poverty is also a “The Committee hav? been in­ problem of inequality. In most de­ formed by the representative of the veloping countries the richest 10 Department during evidence that per cent of households typically re­ Government did not have a precise ceive about 40 per cent of personal estimate of unemployment and the income whereas the poorest 40 per stipulation that every district should cent receive 15 per cent or less, be given an equal amount of money and the poorest 20 per cent re­ was not correct.” ceive about 5 per cent.. . . ” That is their conclusion after exa­ This is what the position is. In India, mining many witnesses. Then the Plan allocations for agriculture and same Mrs. Gandhi brought in this allied subjects viz. irrigation and vil­ Emergency Agriculture Production lage and small industries amounted to Programme. As usual, much of the a total of well over Rs. 17,000 crores; money found its way into the same but since 1951-52 poverty has been on pockets as I mentioned before. Un- the increase in” absolute terms. Ac­ employiiiint went on mounting both cording to the National Sample Sur­ in the urban and the rural areas vey of 1975, one Indian cut of every amongst educated and uneducated 5 is a severe destitute, I in every 3 population at great speed. But Mrs. is a destitute and nearly half the Gandhi’s Congress government under­ population of the country is below the played the problem in a planned man­ poverty line. According to the latest ner. Poverty and unemployment are World Bank estimates, 800 million, one; and these two things cannot be out of a total third world population isolated or separated. of 2600 million, live in a state of ab- 287 Unemployment JULY 27, 1977 Problem (Motns.) 288 IShri Jyotirmoy Bosu] means of production is outside the solute poverty. The unemployed num­ scope of State planning. Full employ­ ber 300 million and 900 miUlon earn ment, under the circumstances, is not less than three rupees a day. In the possible at all. circumstances, the revelation that a thousand millions suffer from mal­ I do not rely on the figures avail­ nutrition should not come as a sur­ able from the erstwhile Government prise. sources, because they were all the time grossly under-playing the whole India today has no less than 75 per thing. Even highly industrialised cent of its population living below the countries like America, because of poverty line, because there is no scope their capitalist structure, failed to for gainful and productive employ­ solve the problem of unemployment. ment. The Economic Survey of 1976­ 77 circulated by the present govern­ According to the 1971 census—now ment clearly points the finger at the it is much more in India—the number issue; and I am glad that they have of agricultural labour was 47.48 mil­ taken the trouble to do this. lion and 15.6 million were share-crop­ pers, making a total of 63.8 million Finally, the question of unemploy­ out of 150 million work force in this ment. The earlier discussion does give country. This lot is virtually under- some idea of the problem in the employe'd. They get employment for organized sector, though it fails to in­ 100 to 150 days a year and in th« dicate the full contours of the prob­ eastern region and in other backward lem. With regard to rural unemploy­ areas and also in West Bengal it comes ment, no up-to-date information is sometimes as low as 90 days. available regarding the magnitude of the problem. However, sufficient evi­ The rural artisan force comes to dence exists to show that the volume 10 million. They are grossly under­ of unemployment in large and that it paid. Khadi enterprises brought about is growing. It should, therefore, be 15 lakhs under its fold when it start­ the primary endeavour of policy to ed. Now it is much less. The khadi remove this evil. works structure gives only below sub­ sistence working conditions. The We welcome the Prime Minister Mr. position in West Bengal is still more Morarji Desai’s and government's acute. policy announcement on unemploy­ ment. It says : Coming to employment and labour, “Government is pledged to the two important characteristics of the removal of destitution within a de­ employment situation in West Bengal finite time frame of 10 years. To are (1 ) a gradually declining propor­ achieve this objective. Government tion of people finding scope for any will follow an employment-oriented employment. In 1951, 34.8 per cent of strategy in which primacy will be the people of West Bengal were em­ given to the development of agri­ ployed. The corresponding proportion culture, agro-industries, small and in 1971 was only 28.4 per cent. In cottage industries, especially in both the years, the proportions for rural areas. High priority will also India as a whole were substantially be given to the provision of mini­ higher; (2) during the last 6-7 years, mum needs in rural areas and to the absolute volume of employment integrated rural development.” in* the organised sector was also dec­ lining. West Bengal’s Approach to We welcome this; but we, Marxists, Fifth Five Year Plan says further; have reservations in the context of the present socio-economic structure “It may be considered that 95 per prevailing in this country. Tliere cent of adult males and 30 per cent every operation is conducted to maxi­ of adult females are actually mise prafits and 95 per cent of the or potentially seeking employment; 289 Vnemployment SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Problem (Mottis.) 29O

    they constitute the labour force. Its “Unemployment has always been size in 1971 was 15.4 million in one of the foremost problems of West Bengaf. The corresponding Kerala. Of late the problem has worldiig population being 12.6 mil­ attained crisis proportions. It is so lion, the balance labour force of pressing that action on this front can 2.8 million on the basis of above wait no longer. Effective measures assumption, can be considered as to combat the problem require suffi­ fully imemlSloyed in 1971." cient data on the magnitude of unemployment and detailed know­ This is the position during the last ledge of the age, sex, education and decade. The position is as gloomy as mobility etc. possible. I do not want to burden you with too many quotations. “Information available at pre* sent on the above as yet is not I had written to all the Chief Min­ adequate. A study in depth of the isters of States in the matter and the magnitude and dimensions of the facts and figures given by them are problem should be undertaken as revealing. In Kerala the distribution early as possible.” Then it say; of work-seekers by educational levels is as follow s: “The survey also provided data on under-employment. Any defini­ 31-32-66 31-12-76 tion of under-employment involves the adoption of some arbitrary norms interms of working hours. Below S S L C 70,946 , 3>44>46i In the 1965 Survey, 42 hours of S S L C • 79 >26i 3>i5,552 work per week was considered a nor­ mal work week. On this basis 25 Pre-degree • 2,923 38,175 per cent of the employed, or 13.78 lakhs persons, were estimated as Graduates . • 3.581 49.749 under-employed.” In India Employment in the orivate Similarly, the total work seekers in sector was as follows: 1966-67: 68.13 1966 was 1,57,156. In 1976, nfter the lakhs: in 1975-76 it has come down to glorious Congress rule for three de­ 68.04 lakhs. cades it went up to 7,53,579. The number of applications on the live registers of the employment ex* The Kerala Government further changes were: 1970; 40,69,000; 197T say: March: 102,38,000. You can well im­ agine the rise. “It may, however, be emphasized that the employment exchange re­ Number of educated job-seekers, gistrations do not reflect the full matriculates and above wpre as picture of the magnitude of un­ follows—I have got State-wise figures, employment, especially in the rural and in fact, it is most horrifying— sector. Taking into account this Andhra Pradesh: 317.5 thousands; factor, the total unemplojonent may West Bengal: 688,000; Kerala; 409,400; well be in the vicinity of a million U.P.; 633.7 thousands. persons.” The following is a statement show­ Employment in the private sector in ing the total number of job workers Kerala in 1966 was 4,34,562. By 1976 retrenched, and laid off during the it has gone up to 4,87.048 only. Ihis period July, 1975 to December, 1975. is the position with regard to Kerala. only six months; Andhra Pradesh; A Report of the Kerala Government 21,467; Gujarat: 8,199; Haryana on Unemployment says; . 8,684; Karnataka: 6,386; Kerala: •“1795 LS—10. Re. Unemployment JU^.y 27, 4977 Bu>blem (UtOmi 292

    [Shri Jyotirmoy Bo0u] 1976 to 31st March, 1«T7, «re not 6,803; Madhya Pradesb; 45,948

    Then I come to lockouts, establish­ District 1961 I 971 ments affected and workers Involved during the period January, 1976 lo June, 1976. Lockouts in transport, Malda ■ • 14-9 33-3 storage and communications; 3,470; Nadia 19.8 27.2 manufacturing; 66,894. Birbhum 32.3 41.8 Number of units and number of ■workers retrenched/affected industry- Bankura ■ 25.9 28.6 ■wise during the period January, 1976 to May, 1976, i.e., five months; Trans­ port, storage and communications: These figures are from the Report of 3,032. the ’Labour in West Bengal’, a Govern­ ment publication. Number of workers affected by closures: Kerala; 42,221; Karnataka; 3,290; Tamil Nadu: 3,102; West Per Capita Income, and average earn­ Bengal; 3,237. ings per member of the family per day calculated on .S65 days in a year is ns Coming to gheraos and closures follows; people have been talking about West Bengal, but I have got a Government publication here on the Labour Depart­ Birbhum—15 paise, Nadia ^^3 ment, “Labour Mood in West Bengal”- paise, Jalpaiguri 37 paise, Maldah It is generally said that gherao is con­ 21 paise, 24—Parganas 25 paise. nected with closure, but it is not so. The number of gheraos in 1967 was Percentage of earning is; Birbhum 311, but the number of closures due 9.25 per cent, Nadia 25.58 per cent etc. to gherao was only 2; in 1968 the ;iurn- etc. Iser of gheraos was 30 and the num ber of closures due to gherao was only one. In 1969 the number of gheraos This is the picture that I am dble to was 517, but the number of closures produce before the House. Hon. Mr. due to gherao was only one. In 1970, Prime Minister, the country should the number of gheraos was 60 and the note what you and your Government number of closures due to gherao was have inherited from the last Govern­ only one. ment. The people will cooperate with all your good moves for doing pood to The number of man-days lost due the people for solving the problem of to lock-outs were; 1967; 34,815.518; massive unemployment and we will 1968; 35,65.840; 1972 (Provisional)— support you unconditionally. (Condi­ when the Congress Government was tion amongst minorities and backward very much in the saddle—26,76. 567. classes is even worse. In Eastern UP, This is the position with regard to after 30 years of our Independence, lock outs and gheraos as against the even today, people dig up undigested malitlous propaganda that the vested grain from cowdung, clean it i nd boil interests have been carrying on. it for eating and if these things are The figures of unemployment due to showTi on the television in foreign closures and lay offs from 1st April, countries, my head hangs In shame. ^ Re. Un(^Ipv^n«nt SRAVAIfA, i m A S A K A y PMMem (itfdtm.) 294

    In Sunderbems, the concentration of policy-pronouneements and actual Scheduled Castes iy as high as 76.54 execution, been as gz«at as in the per cent andt of Scheduled Tribes as domain of lackd reform.” high as 22.18 per cent. This is self-explanatory. Occuptional Characteristics: “The Then, the minor irrigation pro­ total number of persons in the work­ gramme is the most important thing ing age group i.e. 15 to 59 years is that you really need. In reply to U.S. 1,22,225. Of this labour force, nctuaJly Q. No. 4622 dated 25th July, 1977, ^0,464 persons are employed. The per­ addressed to the Minister of Agricul­ centage of employed persons, ihere- ture and Irrigation, to state the gross lore, stands at 49.46 per cent which is irrigated area, Statewise, as at present indeed high but it again underlines of gross cropped area as in 1949-50, the poverty of the region 'oecause 1974-75 or 1973-74 and the share of abnormally high rate of participation minor irrigation projects on this total, suggests subsistence economy and lack the reply is that the required informa­ of little specialisation modernisation.” tion is given in the annexure and that Economic condition; They have the share of minor irrigation in the •given it thana-wise, but I will not go total gross irrigated area roughly into that. The average income of comes to 58 per cent during 1949-50 households per month varies from as well as 1974-75. The figures given ^Rs. 176.64 to Rs. 194.22; the average in the annexure are as follows: — expenditure of households per month In the case of Assam, in 1949-50, varies from Rs. 176.50 to Rs. 214.78 gross irrigated area was 537 thousand and the average outstanding loan oer hectares: gross cropped area was family varies from Rs. 154.84 to 2,587 thousand hectares and the per­ Ks 195.89. centage of gross irrigated area to gross Proper land reform is the Arst pri­ cropped area was 20.8, whereas in ority for rural economic growth and for 1974-75, gross irrigated area was 572 releasing rural production force. I thousand hectares, gross cropped area will read out. This is from the Re­ was 3,104 thousand hectares ind the port of the Task Force on Agrarian percentage of gross irrigated .^rea to Relations—a document published by gross cropped area was 18.4 only. the Planning Commission; Similarly, I have got the figures in “Enactment of progressive mea­ resf>ect of West Bengal. In 1949-50, sures of land reform and their effi­ gross irrigated area was 1,158 thousand cient implementation call for hard hectares, gross cropped area was 5,701 ^ political decisions and efTective thousand hectares and the percentage political support, direction and (?on- of gross irrigated area to gross '’tooped trol. In the context of the socio­ area was 20.3 and the percentage of economic conditions prevailing in gross irrigated area to gross propped the rural areas of the country, no area, in 1974-75, was 20. tangible progress can be expected in The All-India percentage of jjrcss 1he field of land reforms in the irrigated area to gross cropped area absence of the requisite political was 25.4. will” which was not in existence. “The sad truth is that this Out of 22 States, 11 States are hel iw crucial factor has been wanting. the all-India average. They are: The lack of political will is amply Assam, Gujarat, Himachal Pradesh, demonstrated by the large gaps Karnataka, Kerala, Madhya Prarlesh, beween policy and legislation and Maharashtra, Orissa, Rajasthan, Tri­ between law and its implementa­ pura and West Bengal. That is the tion. In no sphere of public position. activity in our country since In­ The lack of genuine land reforms dependence has the hiatus between has caused this gallopping growth in precept and practice, between unemployment and it can certainly be 295 fle. Unemployment JULY 27, 1977 Problem (Mofn«.) 296 [Shri Jyotinnoy Bosu] produced in cottage and small ccale easily checked. Mutiple cropping, sector. Bread makers and biscuit even if it is uniformly increased o y at makers have gone out of existence."* least 10 per cent within the target Unless you curb monopolies and the date, will go a very long way. There multi-nationals and go in for produc­ should be easy availability of long tive investment, the investments which term and short-term credit and in­ are not going to yield any good to the puts to peasants. There should be common poor people and the weaker- stopping of all labour saving devices sections of the society, we are not in agriculture as well as in industry going to get anywhere. Putting money wherever possible. There should be for expansion of airlines, competing’ export of finished goods only at a with the developed countries any try­ profit. We should have a two-tier pro­ ing to be equal in this sphere of runn­ duction policy. The heavy and core ing airlines or having five star hotels sector of industry is very much need­ network is not going to take the coun­ ed. But we should evolve our tech­ try anywhere. All labour saving • nology. This abject dependence on devices and automation must be done foreign technical know-how is bringing away with at once. I lay special empha­ slavery on us. sis on rural roads. There are 3 lakh The hon. Prime Minister, Shri villages which are not even connected Morarji Desai, should revive the call with feeder roads, minor irrigation and for use of Swadeshi. I suggest, let us ground water survey, soil reclamation- start the Swadeshi movement in the and conservation, cultivation of hill areas, horticulture, poultry farminj», same spirit, that we buy Swadeshi and use Swadeshi, nothing other than sheep breeding, dairying, etc. Expan­ sion of education, all out drive against Swadeshi. The growth of ancillary in­ dustries should be encouraged. There illiteracy, will create a lot of jobs. E.x- pansion of rural public scheme rural should bo reservation of all possible housing, inland water transport, drain­ sectors for small-scale and cottage in­ age, flood control for cultivation, ngro- dustries. The big multinationals and based cottage and small scale indus­ big business houses have swallowed tries, massive all out rural works oro- the people who are making a living through hard labour. gramme are needed to mop up and mobilise the potential of hidden sur­ is hrs. pluses. Our problem is not lack of resources but making them available Take, for example, the production of for productive purposes. soap. With the coming in of the Lever Brothers, all the small and medium Our work force is the biggest asset soap-producing units have gone out of the country. Earmark now Mr. of existence. Coming to the Batas, the Desaisahib Rs. 500 crores—set the ball shoe-makers have gone '..ut of rolling now. Life Insurance Corporation ’ existence. The Batas have even Unit Trust, General Insurance, Nation­ started repairing services. An ordin­ alised Banks should come forward to ary mochi, the shoe repairer, cannot pay this little modest sum. Though make a living because the Batas are these will be quick in yielding results, grabbing that business also. Again, it will cause no problem, no back-lasb take Coca Cola. They have sent all in the economy. You should form Re other soft-drink makers out of gionai Development Authorities in­ existence. volving people for real implementation Is Coca Cola something essential for of the plan. Otherwise, it will not suc­ our survival: Is it verj' essential for the ceed. growth of the nation? Is it something I request the hon. Prime M inister absolutely indispensable for the coun to visit China once and it will be a try? Take, for instance, Britania Bis­ new and freshening experience cuit Company. They are producing him. Please see China once and *hen things which could have easily jecn come and take a decision. I once nigaln 397 Vnemployment SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA). Problem (Motna.) 298

    request you to enshrinein the Con- and its solution should be very clear in •stitution now (the “Ri«ht to Work” with our minds, in the mind of the Govern­ the target date as a fundamental right ment, in the mind of this House. Sir, and at the same time make a provision I think, unemployment is another for giving subsistence allowance as manifestation of poverty: it is poverty mentioned in my motion. itself. Recently, in a report presented MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Motion to the United Nations by the Centre moved: of Economic Growth, they have said that unemployment is another mani­ , “ That this House takes serious festation of poverty. Yojana, the jour­ note of the Prime Minister’s ; re­ nal published by the Planning Com­ mise that the unemploment problem mission, in its issue May, 1, 1977, had will be solved within ten years and said; strongly recommends that ‘right t.) work’ be enshrined in the Constitu­ “It is estimated that the number tion to be made effective fron; a of unemployed would be near about target date and in meantime sub­ 29 million at present.” sistence allowance be given to all the unemployed invalid and cld That is the magnitude of the problem. people.” . Mr. Hukmdeo Narain Yadav, you “The Central Employment Direc­ torate has estimated that the un­ move your amendments 1 and 2 and employed and under-employed re­ then speak later on. spectively, would be 60 million and SHRI HUKMDEO NARAIN YADAV 3 million at the end of the Fifth

    [Shri C. K. Chandrappan] make a visit to 'dttfina. Hfe will find I have my own reservatidns about thi^ that there is no unemployment there.' statement. But anywhere these are Two years ago, I visited Viet Nam, a aome of the important declarations country which was just coming up, which have been made by the leaders after trying to recover from the war. of the Janata Party after assuming The war over only about six months office. earlier, but they told me that there was no unemployment there. This is Sir, I do not think that unemploy­ because the whole society is planneil ment was growing in this country in such a manner that no section of ' because Mrs. Indira Gandhi was the the society will be able to amass wealth Prime Minister, and I do not think and, on the other side, the poor that unemployment will find a solution people cannot be pushed further and; within ten years if Shri Morarji Desai further into poverty. If such condi­ continues to be the Prime Minister of tions can be created, then there wUl this country. There are more funda­ not be any unemployment. That is mental issues involved in it. why I said in the beginning—and my friends on the other side got an­ The International Labour Organiza­ noyed—that it is not a question of who tion convened a Conference in Geneva is the Prime Minister of the country. I think, last year, and that Conference The question is what path of econo-' came out with this statement after mic progress it is that you are choos­ making a thorough study in which the ing. As a Communist, my contention delegate from our country also parti­ is that in this country there is a cipated; they have said that the basic malady of unemplojTnent and it is- reason for unemployment is the failuie growing into menacing proportions of the countries to bring about a con­ because this country is pursuing the dition under which fundamental re­ crisis ridden path of capitalist develop­ forms are introduced, basic structural ment. As long as you pursue that path changes are brought in in the society. of capitalist development you will laiid So, the solution of this is linked into further miseries. As poverty is the structural changes in the economy. the offspring of capitalist rlevelop- That is why, you can see that mere ment, there will continue to be poor economic growth will not bring a con­ people and there will continue to be dition where no unemployment will be unemployment. So, it is a question cf there. If that were so, then the United choosing a different path, if you are^ States should have been a country serious about fighting unemployment.' without any unemployment—or Britain or Japan or any such country, for th.it In this regard, I beg to differ from matter. Here I have certain ilgures. my friend Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu who ■ Here, I have certain figures .iboul attributed everything to Smt. Indira those countries which are highly affl­ Gandhi. He has said that now that uent. According to the ILO Report Smt. Indira Gandhi has gone and Shn of 1976 Japan has 10,50,000 unemployed, Morarji Desai has come, the country Canada has 8,00,00t), USA has 81,00,000, will have a brighter further I don’t France has 10,00,000 and West Germany believe that. (Interruptions). There are has 13,00,000. These are countries certain hard realities of life to which which are considered to be very affl­ you cannot close your eyes. There uent, very modern, with highly develo­ fore, my point is that, basically, the’ ped technology industry, science c*n(! question is what path you are choos­ everything else; but, in spite of thai, ing. If you are choosing the path of there is unemployment. At the same capitalism, you will continue to create time, you can see another picture conditions which will give rise to more there is no unemployment in any socia­ poverty In this country and, therefore,-* list countfy. Just now Mr. Bosu was to more unemployment. That is what -suggesting to the Prime Minister to I wanted to make dear at the outset. JOI Re. WHMMptoymwie SRAfiSfcA6 , (S A IU ^ ZhWMent (Mofns.) yjiz

    Now, comiag to the other aspects of SHRI B »U PATNAIK: WiU that the probl«kn of unen^loyinent, I may increase employment? say that there are certain miaimum measures the Govenunent will have SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: It to take. Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu has ex­ will. I know you have a different plained himself at length and so I wii. theory. It will increase employment. not go into the details of it. First o' Let us see how these big companies all, from where will the Gtovemment amass wealth. I will cite only two find new resources lor investment? examples. In 1963-64 the total wealth This country is a rich country and no­ of Birlas amounted to Rs. 282 crores. body has any doubt about it; somebody In 1975-76 it increased to Rs. 1,064 has described India as a rich country crores. This was during the period but inhabited by poor people. If you when garibi hatao was the slogan. want this rich country to be inhabited Then, take Tatas. In 1963-64 their by people who will become rich, theu wealth amounted to Rs. 375 crores. By you will have to invest more and more 1975-76 it increased to Rs. 974.6 crores, resources into our economy, so that ti e nearly three times. rate of economic growth will be higher and there will be social justice. That SHRI BIJU PATNAIK: You were is where the question of path comes. in the vanguard of the Government. If more money could be invested, we can make our people rich. Take (he What did you do? case of Madhya Pradesh, which is the economic geography of this country. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: That Now the people of that State are very question will not help. If you are in the poor even though that State has im­ vanguard of something else now, it will mense natural resources. not help. Unless you change the basic policies, you cannot change the •josi-. THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND tion. That is why I say that money it,. MINES (SHRI BIJU PATNAIK); Why there and money can be found out if are you forgetting Orissa? you break the backbone of the bi^, business houses. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: Orissa is very rich. Kerala is immen­ Shri Biju Patnaik was enquiring sely rich. In fact, our whole country whether the break up of the monopolies is rich. But the question is how we will provide or generate more employ­ are going to exploit the natural re­ ment. It will. As we all know, mono­ sources and for that where will you polies are interested only in making find the money from. Though there more profits and further profits. They could be difference of opinion on thia are not interested in providing employ­ question, in my opinion there is money ment or reasonable standard of livir-g in this country. The question is to the people. They are interested only whether we have the political will, the in profits. That is the law of capita­ seriousness and determination to tap lism. There is no vegetarian tiget. It those sources. the same way, there is no capitalist whose motive force is not higher and My first suggestion is that we have higher profits. So my concrete sugges­ to break the monopolies. There .'re tion is to nationalise all firms and com­ panies owned by the monopoly hous-.- 75 big business houses. Now 20 to 23 And you have to nationalise also the business houses have been added to them. They constitute a big empire companies owned by the multi-na­ who amass nearly 75 per cent of the tionals and their subsidiaries. Put a total wealth of this country into their moratorium on the repatriation of exchequer. Will you make it the pro- profits inunediately as also on royal­ gerty of this country is the fundamen­ ties and dividends of foreign com- panifcB. Break the parallel economy tal question. 303 Be. Vntmfiovmewt JULY 27, 1977 Problem (Motns.) 304

    [Shri C. K. Chandrappan] the rest are in the villages. So, you •of the black money by taking all pre­ have to implement radical and re- ' ventive measures including demo­ forms and distribute the surplus to netisation about which the Janata the poor peasants-----(Interruptions). Party was discussing the other day. There is surplus; only the assessment ■Collect arrears of tax. Confiscate the Of the surplus steadily came down. hoarded gold and other wealth of That is all, but the surplus is there. the rich people in the country. That is all details and I am not going into them. Then, completely take over the im­ port-export trade. UtUise fully the Arable land should be distributed installed capacity of the industry and among the peasants for cultivation. juinimise foreign collaboration. Then, promotion of agro industries, If these steps are taken—I am not cottage industries, small-scale indus­ saying that this is a panacea for all tries and undertaking large-scale pub­ our ills—but if these steps are taken, lic works, road construction, rural you will find that there will be new electrification. . . . resources which you can invest. SHiRI P. RAJAGOPALA NAIDU Then there is the question of pri­ (Chittor): Rural housing. . vate sector. They should be told to SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN; Yes, behave in a disciplined manner. Ac­ cording to your own report submit­ rural housing. ted to this House, there are certain SHRI K. LAKKAPPA (Tumkur): interesting things. In March 1975 But nothing is going on. the total number of people employed in the public sector was 130.38 lakhs SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: And as against 68 lakhs in the private take steps for primary education, to -sector. implement the constitutional provi­ The public sector was giving more sion regarding primary education and and more employment to the people also a massive scheme to eradicate because the public sector will not illiteracy. That will create job oppor­ ■have that character of profit motive^ tunities for many many millions of So they gave more and more em­ yovmg people who are educated but ployment to the people whereas the are unemployed. Indian private sector gave less and less employment during the last few Then there should be a plan to years. So you will have to call the fully exploit our natural resources, to private sector and tell them to be­ develop fisheries and forestry. have properly. There sh«uld be an efficient social There are other steps which are of service scheme including a country­ immediate nature which are neces­ wide health service scheme eve^n to the sary. Tliere may be a time-boimd remotest village and our educational programme for rapid industrialisation system should be re^oriented accord­ of the country. ing to these needs. That means that more vocationalisation will have to be There should be land reforms be­ there. ' cause in our country without land reforms you cannot imagine the bulk Now, the question is that apart from of the unemployed people. If you generating jobs there is another job of take Mr. Raj Krishna who is now a defending the jobs which are already Planning Commission Member, we there beacusethere is a large-scale have 19 million unemployed of which closure, lock-out and reAresnchment nearly 3 million are in the cities and going on in our country----- •• 305 Ae. Unemplovment SRAVANA 5^ 1899 (5AKA) Problem (^otnsj 306

    SHRI BIJU PATNAIK: Also strikes. In this House we were discussing I yesterday that nearly 21 million ton­ SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: nes of foodgrains are in the godovns. Strikes are there. Tomorrow we will Now w f are facing a problem of find­ discuss how the strike in that Kiri- ing additional igbdowns. Lot of it is btiru mine is going on. going waste. It is rotting and is not SHRI BIJU PATNAIK: I just re­ good for human consumption. It is membered. in this context that the programme becomes irrelevant. You pay the SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: You worker in kind and ask him to work just remembered. Last year 76 per in nationally important schemes. cent of the total mandays lost in this You mobilise people in a'big way for country was due to arbitrary lock­ the construction and completion of out, closure and retrenchment. Rajasthan Canal. You ask them to work in Nagarjuna Sagar or to come I do not hold you responsible for and complete the work in Kerala, in that. But that is the fact and even Orissa, etc. Have some big schemes. to-day that continues. There should be proper approach. SHRI BIJU PATNAIK: How much Have you got that approach? Y^u is in China? have never spelt out what it will be. If you have that approach of mobilis­ SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: I do ing the people and bringing them not know. We will make research in a big way for construction work together. In regard to automation and providing them food instead of there should be more rational ap­ wage and asking them t© work, that proach. It should not result in large will not only provide them relief but scale replacement of labour. also it will add to the national wealth All casual and temporary workers of our country. Are you serious may be confirmed. Contract labour about the schemei—food for work. If system should be abolished. All those you are serious about it, then what who are in these systems should be are the projects that you have in made permanent workers. mind? We tried it in Kerala. It was successful. Employment should be ensured to Here, there is no political bar. You apprentices and trainees. Statutory can approach everybody and you provision should be made so that can mobilise the whole cotmtry pro­ there is no eviction of land tenants vided you can give them leadership and share cropers. and provided you can inspire them. That inspiration will not come by These axe some of the measures by making speeches. There should be which you will be able to provide programmes and there should be employment to many more people and guarantee that you work In Rajas­ at the same time protect employment than Canal and the area will not be opportunities which are already there. taken by kulaks but that will be given to the people for cultivation. Certain measures were proposed by the Janata Party before the forma­ Shri Raj before he became a Mem­ tion of the Government. These were ber of the Planning Commission, pre­ good proposals. I think an assurance sented very interesting schemes before will come to us from the hon. Minis­ this country. That was liked by the ter that there will be food tor work framers of the Janata Party mani­ or employment scheme. But noth­ festo. What was the scheme? He ing big is being done. There may said.;—If you take the 20 million un­ be flinall things which are being done employed ipeople and calculate in here or there. terms of man-days lost, how many 307 « e . UnemployntetU ^JULY 27, ia/7» ProtOmm CMotns.) 308

    [Shri C. K. ChandrappanJ If you are^ble to do that, I will be days do you lose? They are iinem- the first man to be happy about it. ployed. There are 20 million people. The people will be happy about it. Give them Rs. 4 a day. It is a relief' The whole coimtry will be happy measure. You provide them this about it. amount of Us. 4 a day. You ask them But, unless you pursue a policy by to work hi nationally—important, high­ which you make fundamental changes ly productive schejmes in the coun­ and departure from the capitalist path try and in 5 to 10 years if you have which this country has been purus- a scheme like that you will be able ing for the last 30 years, this pious to make pro(gress. You will have wish will remain a mere wish, which to spend Rs. 150 crores a year. Well, will never be fulfilled. it may appear to be a big amount but I have suggested how the money With these' words I conclude my could be found. If that point of speech. view is accepted and if the program­ THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI me is undertaken, I think Govern­ MORARJI DESAI): I would be away ment will be able to make a break­ both from capitalism as well as from through in the matter of creating more communism and I say this very force­ employment opportunities and pro­ fully and very emphatically. viding more relief to the people. If ■ you fail in all these things, then I SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: I think you will not make any differ­ could not hear him. ence in the approach which was made MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; He said by Mrs. Gandhi. that he would be away from both the capitalist and communist paths. SHRI BIJU PATNAIK: I am in­ tervening as I want one or two clari­ SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: No­ fications. He referred just now to body succeeded in that way. what Shri Raj, Member of the Plan­ SHRl MORARJI DESAI: You will ning CkMnmission had said. If you see that now. take 2 crores of people and if you give them R$. 4 a day, it amounts to SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: I Rs. 8 crores a day. If you have it wish you all success but I have my multiplied by 365 days it comes to own doubts. nearly Rs. 3000 crores and not Rs. 150 crores a year. This is number SHRI MORARJI DESAI: Doubting one. Number two is this; Supposing Thomases have never succeeded. all the private sector is nationalised MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Motion today, this morning, would it provide moved: one more job? That is the question. “That this House do resolve that the Government should take con­ SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: In crete steps of imniediate nature and calculation if I made a mistake, I also of for reaching consequences stand corrected. But in relation to for finding partial and lasting solu­ that second question I am very clear tion to the problem of unemploy­ in my mind. The tiger will not ment which has grown into menac­ change its colour. There you may ing proportions.” hold a different view but I don’t agree with it. I wish that the Prime Min­ Now, Shri Saugata Roy. ister succeeds in implementing the programme and the scheme about un­ SHRI SAUGATA ROY (Barrack- employment being wiped out in 10 pore): It is with pleasure that I rise years. to participate in this debate on the 309 Unemployment SRAV^A-5,‘lUQ iSAKA) Problem iMotns.) 3XP

    Motions moved by Shri Jyotirmoy 16.1 millions were unemployed in the Bosu imd shri C- K. Chandrappan. If rural areas while it was 2.6 million., it had not been for his peculiar rela­ in the urban areas. It is no wonder tionship with our erstwhile Prime that the unemployment figtire goes on Minister, Shri Bosu’s proposals would increasing; from 18.7 million in 1971, seem to be very laudable, but, some­ it has come to nearly 23 to 24 milli»n how Or other, he relates anything and in 1977. everything in the earth,—whether put­ This is a problem which we should ting a man on the moop, or unem­ all take into consideration in all ployment in India,—to our erstwhile seriousness. The unemplojrment prob­ Prime Minister, to which I cannot very lem has now assumed its explosive well Qgreie. But, though I am not a proportion that it has to be studied rommunist, I agree with Shri Chan­ in depth. We! are all agreed about drappan that there cannot be a total one basic thing when Prof. K. N. Raj solution of the unemployment prob- says in his book on ‘The Problems of Ifclm unless there is socialism. Unemployment in India’ that the Sir, recent data show that even in weakest part in our planning in India the advanced capitalist countries, un­ has always been the employment plan­ employment is on the increase. ning.

    In Britain, the jobless number tou­ In the first Three Plans it was ched 14.6 lakhs; in the undeveloped supposed that employment would be countries, specially, in Bangladesh, 20 a corollary to development. They be­ lieved that it will be a corollary to per cent of the people are unem­ investment and, towards the end of ployed; there are six million people Fourth Five Year Plan, we began to in Pakistan who are unemployed. To­ see that investment alone did not gen­ day, in the U.S., imemployment has erate employment and the problem gone up to 9 per cent and in France was assuming a dangerous propor­ and West Germany where they used tion. to import labour for hard work, this sptictre of unemployment is raising So, towards the end of the Fourth its head. It only shows that there is Five Year Plan, the whole country a cri.sis even in the advanced capita­ was seized of the problem and it was listic countries. They are facing at that time wheti the Government this problem anew. I have no illu­ appointed what was known as the sion about the Janata Government ‘Bhagwati Committee’ to go into the that it is going to usher in socialism problem of unemployment and to within a short time. suggest solution to this imemploy- ment problem. But, at the same time, within this limited perspective, I w;elcome the Sir, the interim Report of the Bhag­ Prime Minister, Shri Morarji Desai’s wati Committee laid emphasis on announcement that unemployment certain programmes for solution of would be wiped out from this coun­ this unemployment problem and this try in len years. To-day, when we remains as valid to-day as it was in study this problem of unemployment 1972 when the Report was first adopt­ in all seriousness, we have to note ed. It said: — down first of all the figures which are growing. According to present esti­ “In the execution of the Plan, mate, the unemployment in India is importance should be laid to the roughly 23 to 24 millions. The Bhag- following schemes which are wati Committee which went into the labour-intensive: — problems of unemployment in 1970, in its report put the unemployment (1) Minor irrigation; figure at around 18.7 million; in 1971; (2) rural el^riflcation; B ii Re. Vnemplovment JULY 27, 1977 Problem (Motns.) 312

    fShri Saugata Roy] It was in her time that the Commit­ (3) construction of roads and tee on Unemployment was constituted inland water transport; and Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu was a Mem­ ber of that Committee at that time. <4) programmes of rural hous­ ing; Such a scheme was taken up at that time. Whenever you think of (5) rural water supply and more employment, you have also take (0) education.” into account the mistakes that were committed formerly. To-day I see no Besides, to solve the unemployment signs of solution for wiping out this in urban areas, they suggested cer­ mistake. I say this because in spite tain things; they s'aid that the urban of the Prime Ministers assurance t’lat youth will have to be helped for self­ unemployment will be wiped out in employment. For that two things are ten years and, in spite of a very p,cn- to be done, firstly maximum utilisa­ ciral and vague talk that there will tion of installed capacity in industry be deoen'.ralisation of economic power -and reopening of dosed units and and unemployment-less planning, the secondly promises of providing em­ budget has not shown anything to ployment for the educated unemploy­ solve the problem of unemployment. ed. In the Approach Paper to the Fifth Five Year Plan the goals of the na­ Accordingly, at that time, around tion were laid down. They were re­ "1972, the Government had taken up moval of poverty and attainment of some new schemes. At that time the self-reliance. But in the six months Small Farmers Development scheme of the Janata government no contours had come up; also marginal farmers of the basic development strategy to agricultural labour scheme also had solve this problem of unemployment come up. There were certain schei- has been laid down. mes for the rural employment which There is lot of talk today about were first conceived by Shri Mohan giving incentive to industries for em­ Dharia when he was the Minister of ployment. If that is to be done, the .State in the Planning Ministry which first thing that has to be done when ,put the target of imemployment at you give subsidies to industries in 12.5 millions for every district; allo- rural areas and backward areas is < cation was made in the budget and, that you have to give them not in in the Plan, for that purpose. But, terms of how much they have invest­ unfortunately, this scheme misfired. ed but in terms of the number of In respect of basic unemployment, the people employed by them. You have ■crash scheme was not linked up to a look at the budget. The fiscal mea­ the total development strategy. We sures do not suggest anything where­ wanted to have a crash scheme and by incentive will be given on the •so, the total development strategy in basis of nimiber of people employ­ India was not linked to this crash ed. scheme. Although a large number of people were given employment in Then I come to the point of prio­ these schemes, the unemployment rity development. To whom we problem did not show any sign of should give the jobs? The priority solution. So, to-day, when we are should be given to the poor. How •thinking of solving the imemployment that can be done? Such a scheme problean, we have to think a new of is already befolre the people. The our experiences in the past. Here I Maharashtra Govemmcait has come do not agree with Shri Bosu when forward with a Bill—The Employ­ he said that during Shrimati Indira ment Guarantee Bill—in which every Gandhi’s time nothing was done to work seeking person in the rural :solve the unemployment problem. areag will be provided with a job 313 SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Problem (Motns.) ^14

    or a dole of Re. 1 per day. This is mitment to a full employment imto- ,an extension of the Employment Gua­ gramme, involving a huge outlay, rantee Scheme which was already in will indirectly force more progres­ operation in Maharashtra. This sche­ sive resource mobilisation and the me has even been commended by choice of more appropriate products the ILO. Today Maharashtra Gov­ and techniques. Without a p ^ ernment has the courage to come gramme commitment there has been forward with such a Bill which has no pressure to adopt a really em­ gone to the Select Committee which ployment-oriented strategy of is due to submit its report in a day growth”. or two. Sir, today the government has. been, Sir, I quote from what Mr. Raj good enough to admit this motion. Krishna has to say about the grow­ Sir, the Prime Minister is here and ing unemployment problem and Mr. I say to him that here is a challenge Raj Krishna is an economist who is before the government and here is a very close to the Janata party. In challeaige before the Prime Min­ thi; article he asks what i.s the chal­ ister; let him accept today on the lenge and says: Floor of the House a work-guarantee programme for the whole country and “A nation-wide work guarantee a work-guarantee programme which programme will cfrtair.ly be an or­ will ensure employment to the rural ganisational challenge. But it is poor for the next ten years. In a indispensable and feasible. It can country like India where there is so be oi'gaiiised so as to meet all -he much of soil conservation work to objections which are raised against be done, where there is so much of such programme: high cost, low monsoon and floods here where affo­ productivity and the risk of infla­ restation is so badly neglected, we tion and corruption. have not been able to utilise our “The only way out is the exten­ technical people to solve these prob­ sion of a work guarantee program­ lems. As Mr. Raj Krishna pointed me to thy whole country within out, I hope that the present Govern­ five or ten years. It will cost about ment will take up the challenge. PLs. 3,300 crores a year which is only one-third of the annual plan I want to speak on one more thing. outlay. This is not an excessive price I have' not been able to speak on the problem of unemployment in urban to pay for rooting out the evil of unemployment and ensuring to every areas. In our country where all the resources have not been tapped, where able-bodied worker in India a minimum daily wage. flood-control problems have not been solved, where power generation prob­ Again he says: lem has not been ■ solved, technically^ qualified men remain unemployed to­ “Those who oppose a work gua­ day. What is necessary is the re­ rantee have failed to produce any orientation of our whole technical, concrete policy to eliminate the not only vocational, but the whole backlog of massive unemployment technical education system. It is ne­ within a short, definite period. cessary to recognise that today, a new They merely keep harping on orientation is to be given where traditional growth policies. But urban emplo3Tnent and the need o f thtJse policies continue to swell the the country have to be linked toge­ army of the unemployed. A work ther. guarantee on the other hand can attack the untanployment problem Today the Government has to come directly and eliminate it within a forward with certain concrete mea­ decade or less. And a sincere com­ sures both in the rural areas and in- Re. Unemployment JXJWf 27,, 1977. P rablm 3I& 3*5

    ' [3hri Saugata Roy] w•O JTR I^ % 5r«r zCN it the- urban areas; it ha« to break the «ft !sfrq^ »rt^ «TFft stranglehold of monopoly houses; I ^TvRTT *!♦■<($ ^ *TT, say this not because I want to speak against monopoly houses, but the sta­ ^TN’l fe n tistics show that the growth of em­ «rr ^ ®qrr ployment in the private sector has STT, qiff, I always been slower than the growth •of employment in the public sector. Jf fV ^rfsft ^ ^ ^ 1942 ^ Never in the private sector was there ftsfJ ?riTT «TT I 5^- any growth with regard to the em­ ployment of men. It is a sad com­ % ?T>5rT ft: WTK % mentary on the system of education WR f t ^ ^ I ?ft ^ that in a country where there are fft 3TTOTT I so many unfinished tasks of develop­ mental work, power generation, flood !T^7 ^ % ^TTTrTR SnrrtT^rT^- control, soil survey, etc. we have ^ ^ 6, 7 ?TFr not been able to provide jobs to the ft ^ ? ft % ?jTTppt •educated unemployed; matching of developmental needg and content of TfT I ^ f 5TW educational programme at this stage ^ «ft I ? r m ^T»T ^ ^ snmr is necessary. I hope the hon. Prime ftriT, 5PF ?Tft t I # Minister will attach great importance to the giving of employment to both ^TlitllO TT ^f*TT?ft ^ ?TTTT'T the educated and uneducated work ^ ftr force. I hope he will take up this n vft Tft ^ ^ ^t challenge both in the urban and rural areas, and a detailed scheme like the ^ I %ftr^ t ^>T STTm SFTT one taken up by Maharashtra as re­ ^ «r, ^rrq; ^ ^ ^ commended by the I.L.O. will be taken up to provide employment. Otherwise the imemployment prob­ ^ 3ft ^ 7% «r lem will not bei solved within 10 ^Wf ^ s r ^ ^rzJKT f> 317^ ^ ^ years as is claimed by the Govern­ ment. ^ I !TT^ it ftRT ?rm>i t-d^irrft =EFT Tft «ft, ^ ftr?ft T?: 3rm t ?TT ?rfw: TT ^FT ?TT1:^T STtf ^Tqrr^afT Tpft I ft: 5TSTR W t «ftTTd^ TfT I I I '^ffTTT Titsft gRT 'Tfr^rf^^ jfr^PTT % f ^ ^ srgpT ifT^^ fjrtrra" TTsr TTpf I Iff srrsr %ft ^ TrhTT^ft tqrf % I T ^ f^5TT ^ ^ 11 ft) ^ ^ ^ # 10 pft rft ^ ^ «ft 5R>T nw rrrr ^ qr«TT WT, 3 0 if ar?T ^rrar *tt i jfr^^rr ftrer^ ^?nt, «r, ^ET ^ I «rr ft: ^ t srsrrr ^ ^snf ftm %ft:7r ^ Jr ^ 5T=^ ffr irJTcTT T rff ^ f ? f f q r |-£% ^ 5ft ^ ^ ^nrpiT f 5TT «TT I sr^^rn:-’^ ^ »TT 1 5Tt^ ^ TT 'TPTT I Unempioymmtti SSAVANAi 5,. 188B. (SAKAX P v^A nn (McOfis.) 318!

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    of our leaders, during all these years, the unemployment rate has gone up w k ?T»ft ^ 3ft^ every year. It is true. But it is J T R ^ «(T I t ?HT?T^TT ^ not true that the removal of Congress Party would make any difference to FcTirm ^ ^ this unless there is a large difference I fr\^3raT7r g^HK ^ made in the drive for economy in different directions. It is true that jrrar ^r ’txt 'd«Tl<; ^ 'jiHcii TTTf as my friends who moved this motion ^ laTTR VU. ^3^ JT^ «ft said, this is an endemic sort of situa­ tion in all capitalist countries, but it has got the evils of capitalist sys­ «<<1'^ImiO % ^ ^ tem and We do have this problem in Pff^4^n 5R?n % ?TTR^ IT^ ^ an endemic manner, in a much more ^ ttFRTT ^ insoluable mantier. It is no use talking about the unemployment pro­ Trer «n: *nwr *17 ^ fxr blem of Swedon or Japan or even I ^ 7[5^ % ?mr fr England although England is almost bome down by f' Sle payments, but in 5PT?TT ^ tn€f ^ 3ft those countries where vast wealth is t ^ ^ HTsnTJT ^ created, they can possibly pay be. ?=55T fllr WTWT ^ ?(f^5of^ I cause they have surplus money. They can pay to anybody for having more ?i>T> ^ ift wrgirr babies. They can pay money to a t »ft Q# »t WtRT t I mother who perhaps has got 10 chil­ SHRI BEDABRATA BARUA (Ka- dren because what they lack is not liabor): Mr. Deputy Spearker, Sir, it money. They can pay money to 10 is good that this House discusses the per cent or 20 per cent of the unem­ unemployment problem of this country ployed work force. But how can we pay this money which we do not have? Mostly we discuss rather the problems Therefore, all talk about paying do­ arising out of employment. The or­ les is very suicidal. ganised labour; constitute possibly a very small fraction. They may not In all developing countries, where constitute even 10 per cent of work they have to pay doles they do it force in the country today. I in­ symbolically, to satisfy the unemploy­ clude in this all the office-goers who ed, and the most vocal get it, and have muUipli<“d to such an extent to­ the rest of the section gets farther day that the work force is increased. down. It happens. In Ceylon, But the attRntion on the organised when they wanted to give subidized sector is becMUse the organised sector, rice, the economy could never go up. first of all. can pay trade union dues In Burma also, it happened so. and get the service of the leaders. It could happen anywhere. This is aspersion on anybody, but It is not a question only of I say thw is more important. I am unemployment. If we try to start saying ab^ it trade union leaders only. ‘welfarism’ without getting work This is how the cause of the unem­ from people, we are going possibly ployed, the vast unemployed work to create problems. In a developing force in the country, goes completely economy, the dimension' of the pro­ by default except in the speeches. blem is very vast. It can be faced only by a new drive in the economy. 16.00 h rs. China possibly is a good model; and [Shfi s o m r Singh Pattl in the Chair] we aay this In spite of the differences It is no use blaming the Congress in the two economic syfltem. I do not Party although I do admit that dur­ think thli country will ever go the ing the regime in which our Prime China way, Just as China never went Minister was also a Minister and one the UI^R way, nor did Yugoilavia do 325 Re- Unemployment SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Problem (Motns.) 326

    it. If we want to develop our econo­ jects. I do not say that this should be my, we should take a lesson from done in every case. For example in Cl^na. In China they fed the entire Lai Imli woollen mills, they employ work-force and it was used in 400q people; they produce the same building activities. In our country, quality and the same quantity and we do not have, like the Western coun­ make some profit. We have also al­ tries, a vast amount of wealth and lowed some mills to have ready-made a very difficult labour situation. We and turn-key iactories which can pro­ have the opposite. We have a vast duce the same quantity, with just labour force; yet we have channels 200 persons. But we will be investing and canals to be dug and vast rivers 10 times on capital and machinery to "be tamed. For all this huge which we don’t have, and replace amount work, a vast capital is requir­ labour which we have in plenty. ed. This capital is our labour force Technology would still be required, which is our capital and our curren­ because it is sophisticated industry. cy. We are supposed to be a coun­ This is not good. Technology should try where every day a few crores of be suitable to our needs. people are idling away their time. They are not happy about being idle. It is a pain to them. This is the pe­ I do not think that the Prime culiar situation. We are a capitalist Minister will succeed in removing un­ country in our own sense. We are employment in 10 years; firstly be­ capitalists in the matter of labour cause it cannot happen, even if we force. We have a vast labour popula­ try our best. But what is the direc­ tion and a vast amount of work; but tion given to the economy in the new our economic system does not en­ budget? This budget, as I said ear­ able the labour to be utilized, and lier, serves a different purpose. The payment made for the work. investment allowance has been given' sophisticated industries. For Indian- It is true, as Shri Chandrappan has male know-how which replaces labour said, that we will need Rs. 3000 cro- also, allowance will be given. Any investment on labour-replacing tech­ res to do something effecting but nology will also be giveri^lhe allow­ these people who will be paid Rs. 3000 crores will bring about a produce ance. Import of consumer goods, worth Rs. 10,000 crores. It is very what does it mean? We can produce good economics. If we spend Rs. 3,000 anything. We have the technology crores only and get that amount of and we can produce any type of con­ produce. But the question is one of sumer goods, but not consumer goods finding resources. This can be done to the taste of the sophisticated peo­ only if we can divert the resources. ple. Since we can produce consumer goods, can we not say: let us not im­ To-day the entire resources have been diverted towards industry. All the port consumer goods, let us invest our advances of State Bank flow in one money here? But the proposal is to direction. Sometimes government import Rs. 800 crores 'worth of con­ comes forward and says that they sumer goods. must give 5 per cent of the advance to the small-scale industry; and then those institutions say that these peo­ If we really want emplojTnent, we ple do not succeed and that they do must be prepared to make sacrifices, not know how to use the money. We not only small people, but big people, must first of all be clear about one everybody. It also means that sophis­ thing: if we really want to employ ticated production has to go. It must labour, we must use our currency, be the culture on' our part not to de­ viz., labour. Our currency is not the mand sophisticated prodnetion and printed money, but labour. We must sophisticated goods. Because, on the j^st of all ban all labour saving pro­ one hand to say that black money has 327 Re. Unemployment JULY 27, 1977 Problem {Motnt./ 338

    [Shri Bedabrata Barua] to go and, on the other, to allow so. ^ cA' f5rd^ phisticated production is not possi­ ble. Then, so far «s self-employment in ^ t I rural areas is concerned, I support it. RR«fN WTPf ■ «fl^ Instead of a free choice economy, I think an economy functioning under t l the nationalised system would possi­ bly do good to us. I know that in the socialist system the labour has no choice. He will have to be employ­ ed. The defect in the capitalist sys­ I am intervening in the discussion. tem is that a man is given the choice This is only a discussion on a motion where he is going to work. So, there is and not a Bill before the House. a certain amount of unemployment. If you want employment for all, you cannot naturally have job suitable to Since this is one of the most vital all. points confronting the nation, I am grateful to the members of the oppo­ It is sound economics to nationalise sition for the keen interest they are the bigger concerns. Now a com­ taking on this subject. It is as much pany may purchase 5 per cent shares of interest to the Government, which of another concern, whose capital is have mooted this gigantic task of Rs. 10 crores, since Indian shares are providing satisfactory employnr.ent to widely distributed over the country, our masses within a period of the and earn Rs. 2 crores by doing some next ten years. Naturally, it is gra­ dirty tricks. If you nationalise that tifying for the Government to know industry by investing Rs. 40 lakhs or that the different sections of the 50 lakhs, Government can get much House are taking equally, if I may say more, in fact in crores, in one year so, responsive interest, it is a good by way of taxation and other things. augury for the success of this great Then, there should be some housing adventure that the nation is going to programme and rural literacy pro- embark upon. I would like to, let grainTrje. Also, there must be a us say, provoke a discussion on ^his change in the direction of our educa­ subject and place certain parameters tion. Now we are producing doctors before this House. I will take a few who are migrating to other countries instances to show how and where we and serving the patients there. We have become lavish in our thinking, are giving them English education, in our action, resulting in the usual which oomes in handy for going ab­ losses. Every rupee lost in any ven­ road. Why should we produce doc­ ture is really taken out from the tors who are going to serve only empty stomachs of the poorest of other countries? So, instead of pro­ this land. If we stay and function in ducing big doctors and en^eers, let a House like IWs, this money has us produce artisans and utilize them. been brought from the empty sto- Therefore, our technical education machsi of the poorest of our land. If should be oriented towards that. Un­ our Members of Parliament or Minis­ less the, Janata Party Government ia ters or the Rashtrapati or the Gover­ prepared to do that, they will be no nor or the Ministers, in the States and nearer to the soliition of this problem. Assemblies have all this parapherna­ MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Biju Pat- lia, al^, this is speT»t by cutting the naik. poor stomach and making it poorer. This realisation must, also dawn on ug. If we wish to enthuse the masses of our people to work, with really 329 Re. Unemployment SRAVANA-5, 1899 (SAKA) Problem (Motns.) 330 meaps that we expect them tcrR I , Central Government, the film industry is on the verge of annihilation. The ThinnT ^ Central Government’s taxation policy I I ^ qr tftsTTRt ^ »TR srfSRT I contributes greatly to the creation of ^ % 3ft ^ugf ^ - further unemployment by the closure of industries. This also must be look­ ed into by the Janata Government and usher in new vistas of life for our f I ^ young men and women who today are out on the streets. 11 srk no Tto In my Perambalur Constituency, ^ 5 1 1 weavers must be given all sort of aid tfV sfrf^ ^ as they are living in a pitiable condi­ ^ <1^1 *t>TC «)'si ^ I tion. State Government must be pro­ vided all sort of help by the Central 2, 4 ^ «N zThr 1 if t Government in this regard. Agricul­ *rr37 f^RTT tural workers must be given aid to start cottage industries to substantiate ^ frvvRrr their meagre income. II ^ t irara, ?ft ^3Ti%*TT I As Mr. Chandrappan told, voluntary social service scheme should be intro­ WR ^ftrqr, |*T *TT 335 Re. Unemployment JULY 27. 1977 Prpbletn (Matns.) 336

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    11 W ^ % 60 t HJ sfh 50 srrrfiTi^ % ?T»ft ^ I I ^ ^ t § I, p5T5T^ 5TJT^ s r ^ ISO jpt I I ?rnT ?fk ^ »ft ^?rr | t ^ % 5rr3l ? # ?ft 1^ qr^rr ?rrs ?n% qr w tt T>ir | ^TWr i I t ftr iETTT ^ ^ Trp t I ft?r fFJ?r if WT?: ^ jSf WTT ^ trt I^TT ^ ^ ft) JTf^ifj IT^ ^ ^ 'TT #fqTT 360 I | ftr?:Jf^ % ^ ? 9'9r>Rrofe^fhT^ ? r r 5r i oo w r ^ »ft ^ | ^?TT% ^ 1 1 ^f?ri7 rr I ^ iRTTT f ^ % ? ?Tft qT: % ^ I, STTT ^r|’ ft: ? r f^ 3RFT% ^ 1 ^ ^iTsfr?: I, fqiass ^ ?rfEr^ f ftr?! t i|T5^ ^F> ^ |iT % ^ ^>rr I !IT^ ^T ^ ft) ^ ^ O'fl^tR 3rr?iTr i ff ^ TTfxzrrr if ^ SHRI F. H. MOHSIN (Dharwar South); Mr. Chairman, Sir, I very Rrnfor ^ qf^ TTcft t much agree with the spirit of the mo­ tfV# 1 1 gr>ff Jr ?HR tion moved by Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu ^ ^srrar | ^ f* r^ I i eft ^ ftr^JT and Shri C. K. Chandrappan. Though I do not agree with all that they have « f < r ^ I 51^ 2r?#fr rft trf^JTT stated, I agree with the spirit of the % ^ apt TT^ ^ ^ I . . . motion. (sBrfltrnr) ?ft <^ir^ i ?T[tT w fw if t, ^ ^qnr It is true that the Janata Party in its 13-point economic charter, which I *f c3 T T ^ was released beifore the Lok Sabha T^T q#!fte ^ TfT ^ poll, provided for such a kind of ft: ?5T Jpt T T ^ t I scheme which would provide em­ ployment and eradicate destitution (|tfi?RT7^T) : within a period of ten years, it rei­ ?rrq%'Tm ?ft | ^ ?itt terated by the Prime Minister, Shri Morarji Desai, whenhe assumed office. ^ I So, the Prime Minister has only reite­ Slf^WT 5Tm f?T«rRt : «^mfd rated what was contained in the 13- point economic charter of the Janata Party. I very much doubt whether ^ f I the Janta Party would survive for ten years to achieve this objective. It ( 5 ^ ) *• cannot. Shri Morarji Desai may sur­ ^1^4 Whft ^ ^ %t teli vive, even though he is now 82 years— in fact, I want him to live not only 5T>ff ^ ^ 5T^ t I for 100 years but eveji 200 years— but I caimot imagine for a moment sft ffifw Hm fim rt : ?t »tt that the Janata Party would remain % ^ if 490 t I 545 VRfvff in power even for five years. ^ t I

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    empoyment allowance to the unem­ ployed people during their election ^TTT ^ ^ I campagin. But soon after they came MR. CHAIRMAN: Kindly do not into office, they backed out. Thig is. be provocative. You will also lose the reply which their Minister for time. Labour, Shri Ravindra Varma has given. I will read the reply for your SHRI F. H. MOHSIN: Sir, I have benefit: the right to speak. Why should they be allergic to it? This is a very “While no proposal to grant un­ serious matter. I have got the right employment allowance to unemplo­ to speak and I have the right to h® yed youth is at present under con- heard also. .sideration. Government has stated that it would remove destitution Now after ten years are over we can within a time-frame of 10 years...” know the performance of the party. You want to remove unempoyment But what is the scheme for eradicat­ within 10 years but you do not want ing unemployment which they have to provide unemployment allowance. placcd before the country during the last four months? There is no sche­ PROF. DILIP CHAKRAVARTY me. They always think only of ap­ (Calcutta South): Because you did pointing commissions and criticising not lea-^e anything in the coffers. the Indira Gandhi Government and the emergency. They have no other SHRI F. H. MOHSIN: I know un­ programme. Who will be there after employment is a very big problem. they are in office for ten years? Peo­ It is not a party question. It is a na­ ple can ask them. We will ask them. tional problem before us. Let us not But they will not remain in office play politics in that. But the Janata after 10 years. By this announce­ party pc^ople are playing politics. They ment they wantfc-d perhaps to have the have made it a round to propagate blessings of the people to remain in against us. During the elections the power for another 10 years but I am unemployed youth of the country were sure they will not -be able to fulfil in.stigated to rise in rebellion against this promise, they have given to peo­ the Congress Party and they have ple. rallied round. They are playing po­ litics with the youth. They have said during the election propaganda that they would also What is the imemployment prob­ give an unemployment allowance but lem to-day? It is very much there. soon after the election they have The rural unemployment problem is backed out from this assurance. This much worse. We have to think of is mentioned in their election mani­ solving this. Unless we tap all our festo which so sOon they have for­ irrigation potential, we cannot do gotten. Sir, I put a question in this that. Irrigated land gives much House—No. 2288, unstarred question more employment than an unirriga­ asking (a) whether the Janata Party ted land. We have to develop our hod promised to pay unemployment irrigation to the maximum extent so allowance to all the unemployed per­ that the village unemployed can en­ sons in the country and (b) if so, ^n gage themselves and get employment. outline of the scheme and when it I am glad that Shri Morarji Desai is likely to commence, to which they has also announced that more im­ hove given a categorical reply that portance will be given to the deve­ there is no proposal to grant unem­ lopment of rural sector industries and ployment allowance to the unemploy­ village and khadi industries. I very- ed youth. This is how they stand by much appreciate his statement but their assurance. They went on pro- there should be a scheme to promote »’ pagating that they would give un- them. Merely saying that they want- "343 Vnemployment JULY 27, 1877 Problem (Motns.) 344

    [Shri F. H. Mohsin] pressing and perplexing economic ed to develop the rural and village in­ problems and cimlleh^es faced by us dustries will not help. Mr. Biju Pat- all to-day. It seems to me that in naik has said that everyone of us the first short Session of this new should wear onjy hand-woven cloth. Lok Sabha and now in Budget Session I think he meant hand-woven as also which is about to end, we have given the handloom cloth. That is a very far too much time proportionately to good proposal. I say that it should the political problems and the nation begin with the Janata Party mem­ is perhaps getting an impression out­ bers who are very fond of terylene side this august House that we the garments.... representatives of the people ere con- cern«d predominently with political AN HON.. MEMBER; And their problems and comparatively less with families also. the economic problems. I, therefore, SHRI F. H. MOHSIN; Let them be­ welcome this discussion and I hope gin wearing this khadi or hand-woven the House takes the problem of un­ cloth. That will at least solve the employment seriously which is of unemployment problem to a great course s. twin problem with that of * extent. poverty.

    ^ ^ rft ^ ^ fiT#»Tr i The new Janata Government has ifiirrHST: t # rft ^»fr errcfV very rightly put emphasis on Mahatma Gandhi and Gandhian methods. That 51^ ETRft Tf# f r f , ^ does not mean that we want to go I back to 1948 or 1908 when Mahatma The only way that i propose Gandhi started experiments in South • is a change in the system of educa­ Africa. We do not want to go back tion. An educated unemployed is to the date. We want to go back to not able to earn his livelihood. Edu­ the spirit of Mahatmaji. We want to cation has to be changed in such a go back to the message he gave which is live and fresh to-day. indeed it way that it should be job oriented. They may be in a position to start is much more live and much more small industries. We cannot solve fresh now than it was when Mahatma Gandhi lived and practiced in the the problem unless there is a change in the policy of education. ideals he believed in. Therefore, I feel that this emphasis by the Janata 17.00 hrs. Party in their manifesto, which I Population control is another impor­ broadly endorsed ®t the time of tant thing. Every year we are pro­ the last election, is good. Because it ducing 1 crore 3.3 lakhs. This is equal does mean a change in direction. It to one Australia. That must be means a change of face with a certain brought to same kind of stability, shift in emphasis. Some of my friends otherwise I am afraid, even Shri from the opposition Benches were ask­ Morarji Desai or Shri Biju Patnaik ing what difference does it make whe­ cannot remove unemployment in 100 ther it is Shri Morarji Desai or Shri- years. They are talking of ten years, mati Indira Gandhi. It does make a they will not be able to achieve the difference. It all depends upon the goal in 100 years if they do not bring leader who is leading the team—who into practice the suggestions given by is a captain. It depends upon the cap­ me. tain as to the direction in which he PROF. P. G MAVAL-ANKAR (Gan­ wants to take the entire team and dhinagar) ; This discussion has come through that the entire nation. So, never a minute too late! It is good this emphasis on Gandhian ideals and that the House and the nation pays methods is all the more welcome. I ' serious and urgent attention to thft say It is welcome and very good. But 345 Unemployment SRAVANA 5, 1896 (SAKA) Problem (Motns.) 346

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    [Prot P. Q. Mavalankar] try when the Janata Party’a manilesto Sir, it is said that ‘An idle mind is says, the Prime Minister, Shri Morar- a devil’s workshop.’ Idle people, ur- ji Desai has also said, that the unem­ ployment problem will be wiped out in employed people get frustrated, dep­ ressed and afjitated and they turn tn ten years time? Some people may all kinds of violence, all kinds gi un­ make fun of the statement made by Shri Morarji Desai and his colleagues. desirable methods and techniques. We But, at least they have given an hon­ want to avoid that. est assurance to the House and the This is also not a problem peculiar country that they mean business, and lo India alone. It is a problem which that they are in earnest about these js ihere in all developing as well .-js things. If that is so, then, I would developed countries, indeed, it ^s a request that the new Government’s problem of the entire world. economic policies, programmes and projects do get into the implementa­ So, when we discuss this problem, tion processes as early as possible. the House must take into consideration the global plane and the global pers­ pective of this problem of unemploy­ I just want to say a word about the ment, because it is a problem every­ right to work because my hon. friend, where among the richer countries as Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu’s resolution says well as poorer countries, developed that the right to work should be put countries as well as developing coun­ in our Constitution. I think all of us tries. In fact you will see that in will like to say that let us take out that richer countries like Italy or France right from the Chapter on Directive or Germany or Great Britain or even Principles and put that right to work for that matter, USA or Canada or in the Fundamental Rights Chapter. Australian all these developed coun­ Are we, however, able to honestly im­ tries, if unemployment figure goes up plement it? If we are not able to ho­ beyond a certain point, if the baro­ nestly implement it, why do we deceive meter shows a steep rise, then Gov- ourselves, the House and the poor peo­ >ernments have fallen. Governments ple of this country? So. let the Gov­ are toppled and Governments change, ernment go slowly, but let them go because, the political articulation and in that direction, m a matter of twe­ public opinion is so seriously applied nty years or may be at the end of the tothis menace and to this problem. century, the right to work will be in­ Fortunately, in a way, that stage has corporated into the Chapter on the not yet come in our country. But, fundamental rights in our Indian Constitution so that the people who that stage will come here also, and may still be unemployed get some perhaps, sooner than later, when un­ kind of unemployment allowance as employment will grow beyond the tole­ it is done in other countries. ration limit. People will just say that, whatever good things you may have done, even though you have restored democracy, if you do not restore the Therefore, to conclude, I want to economic health of the country, you say what we are required to do. In are out! our educational efforts, we should think in terms of new courses, new So, Sir, whatever good things might syllabi and the emphasis should be on •have been done by this Government vocationalisation, on polytechnics and ^ou ld be wiped out. Ultimately, the training institutes, and not so much as people will judge you not in terms of the formal, liberal education. In a what the Government says but in country of our size, at the time of terms of what it does. If that is so, its economic development we must ^hen I want to say a word finally. see that the vocationalisation is en­ “That is: what can we do in' our coun­ sured, and syllabi are in terms of in\^ 349 Re, Unemployment SRAVANA 6, 1899 (.SAKA) Problem (.Motns.) 350

    proving the craft of the people—our tional consensus and a certain funda­ education can go a long way in this mental unity of objectives and pro­ direction of eradicating the problem grammes. It is in that context that I of unemployment. All education is say that this Hcuse and this Parlia­ not necessarily or always job-orient­ ment will give a good lead to our ed. country which is so badly needed to­ day. No education can give the people everything so as to qualify them for SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE jobs. I Certainly, no education will (Jadavpur): Mr. Chairman, Sir, it is qualify you to have this or that job. admitted on all sides (.Interruptions). But education must enable the people to qualify for jobs. AN HON. MEMBER: It is an uto­ pian dream! Then, Sir, I want to say that small SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: scale industries must be properly de­ Sir, there are some persons who can­ veloped. This must be done in terms not rectify themselves. It has gone of decentralisation. That must also into their marrow. Everybody ad­ take place. Land reforms and minor mits that this is a very very important irrigation schemes must also be imple­ subject which has come before the mented in such a way that they may House and we must thank Mr. Jyotir- generate more and more employment moy Bosu and Shri Chandrappan for in the rural areas. And youth must bringing it up. The problem has rea­ be employed on developmental pro­ ched such dimensions that we want jects and, particularly, as my fri­ an immediate solution. We are at least end Shri Chandrappan said, on litera­ thankful to the present government cy and adult education campaigns. that it has indicated a time-limit, that What is required is “political wilL” is, within ten years it promises to pro­ I can tell you with great honesty that vide employment to all able-bodied that “political will was lacking in the persons in this country. We must see last Parliament but I am now hope­ that it is translated into action; at ful that that “political will” does exist least that steps are taken in that di­ today. That is my hope and that is rection. a sign of optimism. That is why I hope that this Government can per­ Mr. Chairman, Sir, we nriisl; first haps deliver the goods to some extent. try to find out as to why such a si­ If that is so, then may I ask: how do tuation' has been created? Why dur­ you go about solving this problem of ing the last 30 years we have seen unemployment which is increasing and unemployment mounting in such a deepening? And, along with that, fashion and at such a rate? We have there is the population growth which had a particular system of economy. is also phenomenal. Then, how do we It has not been able to deliver the face this challenge? It is perplexing goods. Can we afford to continue us all. ' with a similar system of economy or with the status quo. Then, we have Shri Biju Patnaik appealed to the to decide whether it is the responsi­ House when he interevened in the de­ bility of the government to find out bate and said exactly what I want to jobs for the people of this country or say in conclusion. Let us carve out not? How is it to be achieved? Sir, some common areas—in our country right to work has been provided in the today we may have acute political Directive Principles of State Policy but, differences—where we all work as one unfortunately, the State Policy has nation' and bring to our country great­ not been directed towards that. There er prosperity leaving aside our poli­ is a fundamental right to be deprived; tical differences. There are certain fundamental right to starve, funda­ problems of great urgency, and so I mental right to remain unemployed. think there should be a certain na­ These things have been there. But 351 Re. Unemployment JtJLY 27, 19'77 Problem (Motiui.) 35» [Shri Sooonath Chatterjee] ganised industry in thia country works what is the direction you want the how the monopoly houses w otk, how country to take? I had exipected when the funds have been diverted- by them, a present energetic Minister, a man etc. Why industrial licences have been of ideas, Shri Biju Patnaik intervened given without assurance of employ­ in the debate that he will give some ment, guarantee of employment from idea or some direction which will give any person? I am not disputmg or to the people of this country some doubting for a moment the sincerity real hope of finding jobs. It is no of this Government, but as in the case good saying that we must continue of price rise, people have become res­ with the mixed economy. If you can­ tive. It is pinching every minute of not do away with the capitalist sys­ their existence. Then you have to tem and if you cannot afford to na­ think and adopt crash programmes. tionalise industries, what do you want It is not good saying that after 10 to do? Please tell us. We feel that years we shall achieve full employ­ the present system of economy has ment. Let us see what you arc doing not been able to generate scope for and I am sure the people will bear employir.-ent in this country. We have with you, but bear with you for greater and greater manpower; there sometime not indefinitely. There Is are people who are willing to work; a change in the Government in vari­ people who wish to produce materials ous States. So far as the West Ben­ and goods for the country but they gal Government is concerned, we are are not given opportunities. Educa. happy and proud that the leftist tion is being wasted. Those persons group has come to power. It repre­ who have not got the benefit of hav­ sents the aspirations of the people. ing education are remaining idle. We have also promised them of tak­ They are not being utilised. This vo­ ing measures to reduce unemployment latile situation has to be met. Land problem' as much as possible. Now, reforms, we believe, have to be done I would request the hon. Prime Mi­ because rural unemployment has rea­ nister to take note of that. ched such a proportion. There is an urgent need for land reforms. There You have to evolve a procedure, is an urgent need to help the rural you have to involve the State Govern­ section of the people to be gainfully ments into it. From Delhi you caa- employed in the agriculture sector, not do everything. I would request handloom sector and other rural and the hon. Prime Minister and the Mi­ small industries sector. So. the ideas nister who is present here, to think on are there. You have youself promis­ these lines. You are going to have a ed decentralisation of indust’fy. discussion with the Chief Ministers have promised small scale industries. on the question of price rise. But on You are having g^'eater and greater the question of unemployment you Wianpower but you are encouraging have to have a full consultation with computerisation even in the nationa­ the popular Governments in the Sta­ lised sector of industry. When there tes. In the States, at present, there- kre people to work, you are creating is not only a change in the form a situation where job potential is g6- of the Ministry, but there are changes ing down. iTiis technological advan­ in the content of the State Minis­ cement is good. But you can' do away tries. Previously, everything was With such a technological advance­ done from Delhi. The fiat had gone ment if it creates more unemploy­ only from No. 1. Safdarjimg Road ment ptdblem. If you require 50 per­ and all these Ministers who are now sons to do a Job, let us have 50 per­ uii'^mployed and are shedding croco­ sons to do that instead of having a dile tears for the teeming millions of sophisHftated tnacfilhe to do that job this courttry, used to bow down to with one pei^n to ruri that machine. that. Whose policy has croated un- So far sis induStMal production M enlployinent In this cotintry? Now concerned, have seen fitiW the ot- these (iedple are saying that they aW' 353 Unemployment SRAVANA 5, 1899 (SAKA) Problem (Motns.) 354

    so much cocerned for the ooo’’ peo- ' pie of this country! I would request the Government to change this style of functioning also. You have to evolve such procedures whirh will give short-terir. returns, which will bring out immediate results. But let TfWer | 5ft us involve the people in some nation ^4'oiK^r ?fh: building projects. Even if it is a I STIR ^ 30 ^ ^ small project like road buildi.iK pro­ ject, you have to give them some TT ^ work. It is no good saying “it is only eft ?TTsft ^TT TTPT 5IT^ Rs. 140 per month, what will you do with that” . No doubt the Govern­ ^ fV ment is aware of the magnitude of ^ 3[T^ ^ +1 ^ 1% ^ iTl'Ji’TT the problem. I believe sincerelv that % p r f t t I you are thinking seriously oi‘ fnat and you want co-operation, suggestions ^ ^ ^ ^ ift from all sides of the House, It will M r «TT, t not be lacking at least so far as my group is concerned. Our new Minis­ ^ft^-Brq-cTT f T f ^ ^ % try in West Bengal is very keen on this and they have repeatedly said in a matter like that which is of nation­ al importance. We want the fullest W ^ ir cooperation between the Centre and f f^ r I the State. We do assure co-cperation to the Centre and we also expeot that in return for which assurances have 5m t mf)' ?T>3nTTTt been given. Therefore, take sector by sector. Say, this is our promise, this is our assurance, this is all what we t ffT ^ ^ % want to do. Whatever discussions, if f t I fT?ren- ■whatever consultations vou want, we are prepared for that. Mr. Mavalan- ?ftT % VI kar has said that the PlanniiiR Com- $riT jTH' '^^TRT, ST^5 ?fk sft^T rr.ission has to apply its mind; bui ^ « r i % 5i t ^ ^ ? f k ^ % what will happen at the end of 5 year,? or ]0 years. Well, that w ij r.ot sa­ ?rrgTT t?: ^ ?rrft iT>3PTrTr 1 tisfy the people. What will happen at JTf I ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ the end of five years or ten years will JTqr ?rk ?rr3r ?nr^ ^ ^ ^ t, not satisfy people now. People have reposed faith in you, hopes and aspi­ ^ f^fer ^ I 5rr^?^T^ rations have been raised in the t ?ft ^ spt % minds of the people. If you try to bring about sonr^ething, cooperation ?F3r?a- if ?fk will not be lacking. , 5ftT ^ T?: I !>Tt fawrft : 5»rr% f ® ?rrf«Tiff h ?T«TT

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    and 10 lakh females were unemployed, the monopoly houses work when then while in rural areas the number was are encouraging black-marketeers, the 76 lakh males and 85 lakh females. I joint sector and the mixed sector? think it is an under-estimate. The How can you introduce a special pro­ enormity of the mounting problem of gramme to fight unemployment in this imemployment has not been realised country? by the day dreamers of the Janata Party and its leaders have made some adventurous statements. They have Since the mushroom grov/th ?f Ihe said that in the next ten years they Janata Party, the sons of the soil will fully eradicate destitution. Thi.': theory has started. In Maharashtra word “destitution’’ is being used in the Siva sena is doing that. Wherever place of poverty, just as for “family these things are developing, these are planning” they have now got “family very dangerous signs. welfare.” If th"^y are responsible, they must be that the people of this SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU; There , country are provided the basic needs is alliance between Naik and Siva of the society as is adumbrated in our Sena. Constitution. The Janata Party is saying that we have mauled and destroyed the edifice of the Constitu­ SHRI K. LAKKAPPA; The Janata tion. But how far these people have Party has not come out with any solved the question of unemployment programme. Therefore, I feel that the in West Bengal? These are half­ Janata Party cannot fulfil the pro­ baked ideas of the Janata Party in the mises. They are only having day­ economic field. The estimated addi­ dreams and half-baked ideas. We will tion to the labour force by 1986 will take it up not only inside the Parlia­ be about 65 million. This alone is ment but outside also and meet the more than three and a half times the challenge. present level of unemployment in the entire organised sector including both the public and private sectors. In addition, there is the huge backlog BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE of unemployment, under-employment F ourth R eport and thin employment. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN­ Employment is going to be the most TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR important challenge not only to the (SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA): Sir, I Planning Commission but to the beg to present the Fourth Report of Janata Party. The strategy to deal the Business Advisory Committee, with the problem is likely to be altered if the threat by the new policy-makers to bring about a whole­ sale change in the direction of eco­ MOTIONS RE. UNEMPLOYMENT nomic policies is put into practice. PROBLEM—Contd. However, no novel ideas have so far been put forward by the leaders of PROF. R. K. AMIN (Surendra- the ruling coalition at the centre. nagar): Mr. Chairman, Sir, i think the statement of the Prime Minister Shri Dharia wants to arrest hoar­ has been more misunderstood than ders, black marketeers, smugglers, etc. understood. To understand it proper­ under MISA whereas Shri Advani ly, we have to examine it in I’ertain and Shri Patel say that it is an context. We have to take for granted obnoxious law. I do not know whe­ certain things in order to understand ther the CPM will also join them in the statement given by the Prime this. Mr. Jyotirmoy Hosu says that Minister. He meant by the Statement it should be repealed. Then how can that this promise is not like Ihe promise Ro. Unemplovment JULY 27, 1S>77 Problem (Motns.) 371 372

    [Prof. R. K. AminJ sion itself has abolished the definition which has been given by the Congress of unemployment by appointing the in 1971 for abolition of poverty. The Dantwala Committee and that Coni- mandate of the people should also be mittee has also said that the defini­ taken into account while understand­ tion of unemployment as under.iLood ing that statement. The mandate is in advanced countries is irrelevant in that we want bread and freedom both, so far as our country is concerned. not freedom alone and not bread filone. Therefore, we have to give a r;i‘W But we want both bread and freedom. definition of unemployment as would That is w hy the way my hon. friends be relevant to our country. from CPM or CPI go, the way China Or Russia goes, that way has en In my view, such a definition, ruled out and the way America goes, should be related to the poverty line. that has also been ruled out. The A significant aspect of unemployment stress has been put on the Gandhian which we can discuss can be of two way of adopting our policy for occno- types. One is that we should see ’.hat mic development. That must be lakun no one who would like to work ihould into account. be denied the work and the second is SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU; I o’ lly that unemployment should be to the made a request to the Prime Ministt'r extent the family or the household is to go and visit China and come back below the poverty line. To that refreshed. extent, the household is unempl:;yed. The moment the household is out on PROF. R. K. AMIN; The state-nent the poverty line or above the poverty of the Prime Minis'er must be viewed line, it should not be considered as un- in this context that the people want cmplo,ved. If you accept this defini­ both, freedom and bread. Therefore, tion, then it can be an operative defi­ any discussion on unemployment nition. If this definition is accepted anjj should be with a view to achie\^ing if the Janata Party follows the policy freedom and bread both and not free­ which it has recommended then within dom- alone and not bread alone. Both iQ years it can abolish unemployment, must be simultaneously achieved. and for that it must begin troin n iw. Therefore, any concrete step which Another confusion found in this ■should tie suggested should not r^n discussion is that most of the people communist line nor on capitalist line have understood the question of un­ but it should be on Gandhian lines. employment as understood in the It should be such that we can onsure advanced countries—8 hours work for that we are removing the poverty .■^OO days in a year, all people ?bo''e gradually, putting most of the fami­ the age of Ifi being employed and all lies on or above the poverty line. that. That sort of a definition will not be applicable to our country in AN HON. MEMBER: The poverty which 70 per cent of people are living line is also artificial. on agriculture and 80 per cent of people are living in rural areas. That employment or unemployment defini­ PROF. R. K. AMIN: Then, the tion will not be applicable to our c'^'un- scheme of establishing work places all try. We have to give a now definition over the country as suggested by Prof. of unemployment. Otherwise, we v. ill Schumacher is already there snd it be circling round and round. If i oven should be started right now in our ask the Prime Minister what is the country. total number of unemployed people ’n our country, he cannot give the exact Now, according to the scheme in the figure. Not even Dr. Lakdawala or the radius of 3 kilometre work place is Planning Commission can give the to be established. We should say to exact number. The Planning Commfs- everybody that those who want work 373 TJnemployment SRAVANA 5, 189» (5AJCA) Problem (Motns.) 374

    and are willing to work should go to suggested by the Gandhian principle. the work place say, at 9 O’clock in We should have not mass production 'the morning. The government should but production for the masses on the also give a promise and an assurance Gandhian lines. If it is done, then that those who come to the work there is no exploitation. The goods place before 9 O'clock will be given and services which are required bj'' work and they will be given Rs. 4 the poor people should be produced por day or whatever quantum of cash by the help of the poor people; they plus kind, we decide, which would should help themselves; they should be sufficient to put a man or a family have their own production. Why On or above' the poverty line. should we not adopt that thing in our country so that we can put as many Having given that assurance the people as possible and as early as work must aLso be given to them. possible on or above the poverty line. We have enough work if we start That is what the Gandhian principle Ambar Charkha, we have enough teaches us and that is the policy that work if we start niini forest scheme, should be adopted. we have enough work if we begin digging wells, we have enough work I can ask straightway my Janata if we' start building roads. If the^e Government why do they give invest­ plans are ready Ln the district or ment allowance? That would lead to even in those work places, the work capital intensive industry. We want could be provided. You are also giv­ labour intensive industry. You give ing ventilation to the grievance? of allowance to those who employ more those people who are so far unem­ people. Those who employ more peo­ ployed and would like to havf work. ple will be given a tax rebate. That The people who would like to have sort of system should have been work will go to the work places early adopted, I would have appreciated morning before 9 O'clock, from every comer of the House if there would have been some talk on the Budget regarding giving tax re­ The State should also ensure that lief to those who give more employ­ we are giving them enough to remain ment rather than giving investment on or above the poverty line and at allowance. Why we should not have the same time you are also ensuring labour laws differently applied? But that the type of work which could in this country, we have metropolitan be done in the villages is being given. centred industrialisation whereas we Smiultaneously, our policy at the want urban centred industrielisation. Centre should be on the Gandhian Why differnt labour laws be not lines. We should produce goods and applied to those industries which go services which the poor people require; to the rural or semi-urban areaa? we should not bother about the goods and services which are required by the rich people. But it would be My friend has suggested that there easier for us to estimate what would is a mine in which Rs. 500 are given be the need of the food-grains, if we as a -wage jjer month to a miner. want to give enough foodgrains to Only two miles away, there i$ a everyone t© eat. It would not be labour who is not getting Rs. 2 a day. difficult for Us to calculate what is Why W e should have that sort of the need and how many dhoties, situation? Let us ask the industries chappals, kurtas and other things are to go to the interior where the labour reqiiired if we want to give to those laws wiU not apply so that they get who are below the poverty line. That some work and some r o tti. At the could be calculated and the technique game time, if we have provided work Of production should be adopted as place, then there will be no exploita- 375 Re. Unemployment JULY 27, 1977 Problem (Motns.) 37

    [Prof. R. K. Amin] «Ft f*r^ «FT ^ ^ ^ m tion of labour because they will have srnnft I smr^ft ^ to be given at least more than Rs. 4 ^ eft ^*TRt f^n^^rft ^ or whatever they get in the work places. That sort of labour laws could be there. %rr ^ ^ ft I Our taxation policy should be such ?fTfrn: ft 55fh: ®rT?ft that small scale industries should be encouraged and not the large scale ^ ^ 5TfT ^ ?l|t I I industries. I am not against the large ^ f w ^rr | i scale industries or the small scale in­ ^rar ^ t i dustries but so long as I can produce goods and services by small units, I ?t;r t ^ R f ^ qr will not go in for the bigger units ^ ^ ^ f|?Rt ^R^ EUid so on. The Gandhian principle wants that sort of decentralisation. % 3ft ^rfa^FR t ?rrT ^ They want to avoid exploitation; they ^ i€t % ht«t want to decentralise industry so ^ 3 ^ ^ 'TT»TT I ^IWlPrl that everybody gets work. It is only on this principle that we should be­ i«fsr+R: 5T t | ^ Iff gt t I ^ gin. It could be started just now, 5TN ^ and if it is started now, within ten 5rf?R>R % ^ ^ cT? eft years it could be finished. But my hon. friends must remember that the m m x ^ ^rnrffr ?mt ^ mandate of the people has categori­ ?TJTmT'd n ^ tsFrff ^ cally shown that the Indira wave of sfTTiT ^ t: fr % u.sfT ?HTTq% T T ^ , ZTf 3ft grrft ^ frTcTRt I W % ^ ^ ^ ^ t 3T' T O T R % 5371?% % ^ JTTIT% if '][3ft?K girm WTT ? ^ ^ ^ > f f ^ rr^ ^ t I ^ ^ WTf^-

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    #*r] unemployed persons in 1971 was like­ ly to be 18.7 million and this figure g — ^ ^ | - included 16.1 million in the rural, ?|5t ?fr«TT 9TBr^ sfT I iTf?? % areas and 2.6 million in the urban areas, thereby implying that the bulk w k ?rfsRTRV ^ ^ of the unemployment is in the rural areas of our country. More recent figures say that the number would ^3RctT qr w ^ 5T|^ ?t50t vrwf: 5>rr prove that the proportion or the ^ jf ^ magnitude is increasing year by year. sFtf ^srmr spt ^ I 5RT«n The number of applicants on the live register has gone up from 9.27 sft^ JTT^ ^'t m r n ^ ^ million at the end of October 1975 I I p3RT 5RT?: ?r fTO# ^ Jr to 9:59 million at the end of October ^ sfr>$ ^ ^'r f w I, 1976. In this connection, I only want to mention that this is the result of ?TT*T ^ t^HT ST ^ 1 ^ the development decade as has been qr^f ^ ?Rfrn: % % t ^tirt mentioned by some of the Members % 1%JTT I— ^ ?rnn^ here. Therefore, it implies that the number of the unemployed has in­ TY j V ^^T, iJNl'fl jf^^TT 'TT?? % creased by 3.4 per cent between these ^ fiT ^ t — two particular points of time. In this context I want to say that I have got *rft% ^ every belief and confidence that the T^ ^ * r n r ^31t % P rim e Minister means what he h.^S, ^ ftfr I ^ ^ -drt that he wants to eradicate unemploy­ ment during a period of 10 years. Here my point is that if the figure is f^ ^ ?rk ^?T> ^nfw % ?fr ?m ?tt^ correct that there is a 3.4 per cent in­ flTTW feq- t I ^ % f*T f^5^?TTJT crease every year, then if there is no frontal attack right from now, the ^ jTTcIT ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ problem would become all the more g->^ 5ftr f^vjwi-T ^ ^ iri\ ? I big and it will become insurmountable. In that context, the burden of the ^ ^ ^TJrTRT f. 1 motion was very simple. The Prime Minister made a statement and a solemn announcement to the country SHRI CHITTA BASU (Barasat); I that it is the intention of the Prime take this opportunity to mention Minister and the government to eradi­ cerLain aspects of the problem. cate destitution and poverty within a On the other occasion I presented period of ten years. The burden of the to the House a profile of poverty and motion was to spell out in concrete On this occasion many hon. Members terms to begin with what steps the have sought to provide a profile of the Government propose to take in this unemploj^ent situation in the coun­ major direction. try. As the time is very much short, I would not like to discuss that. In this question of choosing the But I would very much want to direction, certain very vital que^ions say that the magnitude of the pro­ arise. I am in complete agreement blem is not only alarming but it is with my friend. Comrade Chandrappan becoming more alarming with every that there should be a reversal ( f the passing day and year In order to policy, a reversal of our economic prove that, I only want to mention policies because the result of our one figure. The Bhagavati Committee economic policies has been this back­ mentioned that the total number of log of unemployment. What I mean 385 Be. UnempU>vment SRAVANa 5, 1809 (SAJKa) Problem (Motns.) 386

    that there should be a reversal of of the hon. members and particularly the direction of the economy. Hav­ the Prime Minister and the ».oIicy ing that In my view, I say that by statement of Janata Party—^primacy maintaining the status quo the ques­ is to be given to the rural *ector, rural tion cannot be solved and in this con­ economy, etc. In that case I also want nection I also would not like join to remind the hon. Prime Minister issue with Prof. Amin when he says that if there is a frontal attack on the that the question of poverty line has subject the result will not be very to be stabilised, that is very much much encouraging. I want to mention preposterous. He says that the object that the thought provoking speech of the government is to stabilise the given by Shri Biju Patnaik on the poverty line, that is, nobody should go question of nationalisation is danger­ off the poverty line. They want to ous. I say that there should be con­ perpetuate poverty in our country. trol over the private sector. That will They want to perpetuate slavery in yield some result. I quote from the our country and want to make our Economic Review 1975-76— country a nation of the poor and slaves. “Employment in the organised sector increased by about 2 per cent I am afraid the Prime Mini.ster in 1974-75; the rise being almost should not listen to or should not have entirely associated with the public that advice from his own partymen sector.” who seek to prove that poverty is lo Employment in the private sector fell be stabilised. Slogan of all the sec­ down. tions of this House should be—poverty should be fought out, poverty .should The question ol having some con­ be eradicated. There should be war trol over the private sector means treatment against poverty which is the that it should not be a private affairs greatest enemy and the greatest mons­ of certain managerial personnel or ter in this country. I hope the hon. certain monop>oly sector. Therefore, Prime Minister will not be misled by some amount of control should be the so-called sophisticated theory. there and in that direction the question of nationalisation comes. Otherwise In this connection, J also want lo we are not enamoured of the word mention that there is a popular under­ ‘nationalisation’ or ‘State Control’. It standing—investment means employ­ is the State control which can provide ment. I disagree. I repudiate that certain direction. fully because certain trades are discernable. I \\^u;d only mention that land re­ forms constitute the only key lo the During the six months ending June problem of industrialisation. Indua- 1975, the average daily employment trialisation should be rapid and in 'he stood at 5.66 million in 98,963 working correct line. Ohly this can provide factories. But in June 1974, the employment to ever increasing crmy average daily employment stood at of unemployed. Unlike the predecessor 5.57 million in 98.983 working fac­ Government, this Government should tories. It implies that while there was exercise the necessary political vision. a 5.5 per cent increase in the number The previous Government lacked this of factories, the increase in employ­ in respect of implementing the land ment was only of the order of 1.7 per reforms. This is the key to all the cent. Therefore, it is not only the basic problems. The experience of the question of investment, it is the ques­ previous Government should be an tion of duration of investment which eye-opener for this Government, which has been referred to by my friend Shri wants to provide work to all the Chandrappan. I am in complete bodied persons of this country. agreement in this regard with some Poverty should not be stabilised but l-igs LS—13. 387 Re. Unemplovmeru JULY 27, 1077 Problem {Motns.) 388

    [Shri Chitta Basu] JR ^ I STR^ 9T^

    poverty should be fought back and F!r% TT *?rT?nr tfhrTrr i I f¥ 'Tt'sr 5ft ^ ?T»PT TTrT^rar I -3m. f ir ^ ^ r r f ^ ^ ?mtir )Em% I 5TFT ITTPr ^ ^ ^^TR fir^^ ^nf^ I 5^ ?TFT tfTR n f t ? r ^ ^ I w JT?f I tfR^TRt ’JriT iTTT t^TR ^ WT^' wttttt ? I « r m t 5rnr^ ^ ^ i ^m+i % ^rt^SRT =5TTf^ rTTf% ^ t^FRt ^ ^rff^ ?fk ^ ’TR- ^r I ?:*T ^ ^ %ft TTffJ ^'rm Jfft 3JTKT ^ I ^r I # ?TiRT?rr r ’ f^F i ) 5T ^ 5p-% q ?T m t tfr^*TT7t ^ ^fiT ^ ?TTq^ VTCRTt qrf^ffV % f^T^M H I t't fsrrwft t wfr^i^ % 3:qT ^ ^ »ft ^ PT^rrr i ^rrq % f^iriRTtt V J ^ I I ?nwj ^ ^ ^ I CRT 5TR •-^rfjTiT % pTfT t^TR f I ir^^jqY ^T% ?tVt ^ rTT %IJT ir ^ ? r r ^ ^,T Tt^^r ^ ^ptfw ^ 5rrq^ vw\ f ^rnr ^ t, ffsi^ ir * t^/^n-Ts^ ^ ^ I cfV ^ ?nwT ^ =^rf^ I 5IFT 1[?T^ ^ ^r?7Tr ^ qifV 5>TT t% ^T5t f5T ^ t«T ^ I snr ^ ^T I ^(,7117 3jff 37fr ?TPT <;'ii I ?rrT IT^ ??T ?TFT iRPTT ^fTcTT ’Tt ^ ^ 1(14^11 ^5?ft 1 ^ ^r I iRTT frra- ir ^ tfr^nnrt tr^RTTt^r TT I ?fV7: ^Tf ’sfrnn apt W^ wrr %PR ^TTT q^T^ ?fk I f=F %7T ^ maiT'i) 5T?^ ^ ^ ^ g-rnR % iTTTT I

    W»ft ?fWT^ 6 0 -6 2 n f I I SR ??Yr 3JTRT srrar^ sirrtFT MR. CHAIRMAN; Now the House 5T^ ^STTf^ I stands adjourned to meet tomorrow at 11 A.M. The Prime Minister will^ reply ?r*T?Tfw sTTT ^ % P>ra% tomorrow. f ^ if 18-45 h n . > pr ^ T f r «TT c f r

    *rf «ft I ifiTH 5r#;ft Jf, The Lok Sabha then adjourned till if ^s( 3r»rf =sr?ft >rf «ft i Eleven of the Clock on Thursday, f»rr^ iT^f ^ srrarf)' w|?r ^ >tRt ?r July 28, 1977/Sravana 6. 1899 (Saka).

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