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Denies use of this shop fo ' any purpo - other than =-1;!:1 , 1 , '. pursuit of joint hobbies. Denies ever residing t or know e of apartment§' - 1 3 ' H - 4 < ._ x H11 ' A xx 1 ;.~,_Q ¬ at 1 12 7 E ti : -' Street, NYC " Denies" ' 1mowmg1~iOR J or HELEN BLLL, a92a%s_;- _§__UUK HELEI~J'E." ,ITC_, IKL orAIwI,';1: SIDOROVICII, EB, , 92 or R_U_I;ILAPor Q , /92 my J vQLASS. Material obtained inlseerch of premises presently in process of beiR8 # Q4;§. evaluated. Background information set forth. ._ ' : ',r _ ,, ,4-. ' _ 92 ~ r £ ..tf:"_4"/?,/ ;": C LII L 11-:4' *~ 92 . -1. ~. . h~ I. X v . ~; . ' t , . . _ £1V=1, e ..t i U .-'2 - P - >1 . ' -- < "1/_a_1? - ». ~ i ~ . ,-.. L 3 .~;.* _ .x _, 4. .1 - J 1 Couics: 1 , -..--=....__ ,.- _ ,/ - Bureau 5-592h2! / .- Miami - ~ - Albuquerque Info! ' .- Milwaukee 5-828! 4 Baltimore Newark 5-H088! 1 92. - Boston Info! ¢~ . New York 5-15360! ~ ._ ".7 v~.. - Buffalo 5-1993! - 0nm£ia., - < ' _, - Butte Philadelphia i 53 4 - Charlotte - Pittsburgh a - Chicago _ ~ Richuonr ; i * TI .- Cinsinn L 4 . Sen ;1anuisco -1 ~ Clevelan Seattle ~ Houston ' Washington Field 5~55lh! --1. | 1 - Los Angeles . Albany .» . 92 *1 ¢ K ._ 1 J _ '1 . L I. < :1A .?W, 0 '3 .. . H . 92 4. -q _ '- a 3 . _.1 K <1' é "So. l ' 92 ,, Q. 9 ~ I Q I m = 3 ~ ;H Q 1 % '"§ 3 ';' 3 I ?""'3 W y 4 Q .9 At 6 -166k - §» Lei ~~ ~ S . ~ I_-./-'7: . -:3 92 .._=-'-_a_ . ,, 92:j@< ~.i_ M».W f * a .. 92 . v__92 . . l. ,!§" -'; TABLE CF conTEmT§ 92 . _._;d j _92 -35,, ! 3 0. . v n . - ~- ho vM I. Page No. '1 ; '. . . I' ~, 1- K -1' I. '- ...9 INTRODUCTION QAQQllocololiliIO0IQOOIQQIIOOQOIDUOOQQOIOIOII ..»¢w-.__,.-. K st» II. V. »a. .,_~.- . . @_ 1 » III ALFREDSARANT QouilcnnqoovnullI0100I0ltlllQOOUOIOOOOOPOO{f I . ~- ..;"- X » .1 IV. PHOTOGRAPHIC EXPERIENCE AND EQUIPMENT ...... 6. . 9 »»,_; z" 92 V. 65 MORTON STREET, APT. 61, NEW YORK CITY ...... 1°;:=2¬ ' ,,,E VI. JOEL BARR ...... ,...... 26 ;;31{ 3 VII. WILLIAM PERL ...... 4 VIII JULIUS AND ETHEL ROSENBERG ...... e - 4 I H IX. VIVIAN GLASSMAN, wa. "yxvxm" ...... 36 I I 3, I '.'.~ IDS-ll?OVUOQQQOOIIIOIIIOIOOOO ocooootua ho - h2~»~ ._X- -'» ' ~:. XI. AN1! OCOOIOIQIQOOYIIOIIOIQIUQIOIIOOIIOQ A3 ;_u5 "§ /,_ u46_i;,_. HMFq,@' XII. MORTON AND HELEN SOBELL O0O:$IlQIO0p0OIlllll lt ilwtiv lon T . XIII MICHAEL MIKE! AND ANNE SIDOROVICH ...... , 7 ll e XIV OQIIIIIOOIIOOIOIOI OOIDIQIQIIIJO .4-_r' e 1+9 5" .2 M XV. HARRY GOLD aonIIlQ92IlOQUOOOOIllcitibllaliluuilnouoootlttot Ar INTERVIEWS WITH mns. ALFRED SARANT_...... 1- ; so =. . 92 xI...w Ju1iUS ROS¬Ub¬rg IQO;IIOQlU IJIQjIjQOI.IQliOCOIIQUI ~/ . Joel Barr ...... ...... 51f.:61: { Q . Apartment, 65 Morton Street, New York City ...... A, l - Perl ant!0ulIO00O92n¢|aAoo9200IlOlln000000000 Si 3}'*x ' e . Sarant Laboratories ...... -...-...... 52 :53 5f it Vivian Glassman 53 j 51* ~ .§ Photographic Experience .;...... 55 Q £53 Q 0 Max ElitChEr OlOOOIIIO1OQOOO col 00|0Qtc0Q0o 110100 55 -L56 ;, 56 --"57 <- .¬ ._ 924;> ~ J '-Z H /} 57r .1; ' <7-..'.1 -.'. - Q _ "q,-.~ . ._ L54 , ~ I X 1-a r A *"*r I A ,1 ~ r 3? 4;- 0 I r Q 4 2 ; AL» jg <':_:/~"' :1 'I ABL_E_ OF coxmmrs ~ C0ntinued§ * _ 0 9. Michael Sidorovich ...... -... Pgge No. 10. Davld and Ruth Greenglass ...... Q 57 . 1:-¢ G016. ¢0DOIOlIOI0IO92¢QOlOInigo-0loQiIOnnI00IO4I . '. ~: 12» MOT? -O11 S013P.].1 an~§IIn~QIODQ0OO0QQOIIQOIIOOIOIQQIQGI 58 LR 13. tQ iI@'W YOIK 0unonttluolnl villquollttcct lh. Badqyom ..H..u...H.. .. ..n..n..".- .. » 15. Description ..61...... 58.66, 61 ~ XVI. MI§CELLANEOU5 INTERVIEWS [email protected]»¢¢»¢¢... '*x 1- L8. 000000000:OIOQJUQQUIbq ivtnillbiogcoo 52-, 58* ,65 .¢ -2- D9713-ld. Jo Bennett uvouuoaaoa-00001ooouo00¢oonac~a~- 3. Joseph Intermaggio ..... 62 -I 63 6358 59v 61+-~65 XVII. BACKGROUND AHD DESCRIPTION OF ALFRED SARAHT -...... ---.... 59 61 66 -1 78 Q0QOOQJQQOUIIIEIQOODOIOIIIQQQ 6 Relatives and Family ...... 66 @ ; 47' zbtiovcvcocloarl oqoucvounvolaoorquoaooc -, .__- 0 LduC.??.92.J.On mann-cvrvoc920OIl0~92O~Itiivibtltnoolnlbllc 66 - 67 67 - 69 v n 92 ~ Em qmmm.L .".p. .H. .".~.". .n. ." .69 13 2 70 - 73 Selective Service Records .-...... 73 j'76 Credit and Criminal Records ...... 77 ' a DCS¢I ip l3iOn of 0.0019000000400000:0OQl~920Oo0 73 _ " . I 92 I 1. 2 a A<92 a .1 1 x x 92 = * _ _ :. z gr ." q> ,f.92.¢ J .,_.§f.;-5. .; r I -A I . ~» ~. :31 1,. -1 A * s =2.0, ' ~..- ..~; _ * .. _ ".- A _ ,.-, _.m,._. .,__,,_,,_...A _..s. _,___-~. __,/,._o-.._..._.,. . r _.r .0- __-.i,_ A P04vV <~44'92J _P'_ 4AA92A§K#92l >?}92P-4v> 92>lvJ§_~_l7",F} _1 .'. -_. -_ _ _,_1 U _ _ A » » »- - . - $% - T . ..92*4 ,. 51 I ' -_, _ ,7» 4. . . 4 I -W s :*92 , ._~ - » Q J -.?@' .-H <. ' "~.~1 ., -~ ; .> * ; "'vii-"1 J ».;._~.-_.' ,4 .-J A_-__ , - _ %.',P--__4,. E. x . 9 . . 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He consented to this and executed e written permission dated July 19, -r q~ gj~v 1950, authorizing Special Agents MAHOHEY andMAXSON toperform such search.J _;,r -. Tnis search was conducted during the night of July 19 and the early morning ' , of July 20; 1950. During the course of the search, when it was found that'**1,,f3_;, it was going to take considerable time, SARLNT executed a second consent-to'§=i"9f?§C search directed to SA'sNICHOLAS L.DUNBAR andPAUL R.BIBLER. TheseAgents ~.}-5» » ~ ' thenassisted in the search. On Joly 21, 1950, snnnnr by written consent, ' » further authorized Agents MAHONEY end MAXSON to conduct an additional search 1 ~' of his premises on the same date. Various material was obtained during b0théAj f ' searches, and appropriate receipts dated July 20 and July 21 respectively, ,K ~ -r were furnished Subject. _ 1 . . , . ' 3 _ I ..»" 92 _ ;f*. 'I_ ,4 ; , . , . ' »- I { . 1 ,__ . >=__. . Information receivedduring the course of these interviews and 92 § §1~=§1]. ~ searches will be hereinafter set forth under various captions as the mnterial%" " applies to points of pertinency relative to the JULIUS ROSENBERGnetwork.'" *Y9" v - , ,-92. ~ ~ ,. =:", _. ,, <. .. » x -,. 1 , ., 1 > .' ._. . , n 92- . >. . . _ .. . " ' r e -.|> . t » I . _' l - . 1* 1-_ § . ,',': . ..-, . < ' , -1" ; r .>" K ., _'~;f~1.2 -_ ., . ",.¥§ -"_ .~ >. 4 '* > -_, ~,'=- ~.~. £43",-~=_~~.-_.__ 1 nw_ --_ s - -.~" -92=.-1;-:. -, v - or--.;r.',.- , .. 4 , 1 ' 92 "'1*.- . ;; :.: -"- 1 - » .- .'=,--2.. 11-: vi ,,. ' , I 3 . . >1 - o ' -»'.'r"~a 92 v ¢ 1 v~ 1 x '* ' » :- s - 2 -I w s J L .. ' " v, 2 1 .. -1 ' - _ r '..:' .. 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This information will be set forth later in detail; ~ SARANT, when questioned concerning his membership in the Communist Party, stated emphatically that he is not now a member of this Party. He did state that he was e member of the Communist Political Association for approx- imately 18 months sometime between l9h3 and 19b5, that he was a member of a club in Greenwich Village. He stated that he did not recall how he happened to join or any of the circunstences connected with his joining. _ ~ " He recalled that he was e member of the American Student Union while at Cooper Union Institute of Technology and was a delegate from Cooper Union to a national convention held in Washington, D. C. in l9Ml. He advised that starting with his college days he considered himself a "liberal and a ,~ progressive." and that many of the ideas of the Communists seemed to ht: to- be right at the timel when he moved to New York City, be just happened to * join the Communist Political Association. He did not recall where he . attended meetings, who got him to join the Party, or the names of any other . members of the club or branch to which he belonged. He stated that JQEL_§§§§ and JULIUS ROSENBERG were not members of this branch; He stated that he A never was a member of any other branch. According to SARANT, when he-found. . that the meetings consisted chiefly in arguments and lcngthy,discussions, he just stopped going. He denied being e Party member or going_to.any Party Q. meetings since that date. He denied ever knowing his wife as a member of _the Communist Party; ' ' -. - _ Subject was questioned concerning any trips made by bin to New York "' '> e ' '~ r M" .4~-A--»-»-, _ _ - =. L_b.r:_u..~--_., _-,_..,_ ,, r , _-'6 . vi, ' I I " . . ,3. ..92A o._ . ~ 1'.. Uh . .- s 4 ~»~ "i-'57 _»>-,5; . » s .5.-<.*~,. I vi 7r; :!:_ ; 4 1 ' _» 5 Q. . .._A. .1 : ~ ¢ J9 _ t g ' , -1 .-< -bf _ 1. e a __ . 7 -> } __ -... ,, 1/92». . AL 65-166k . F, __.§+'. *5 , 5:13-- =~ , » g K? '- - » . ,4{ I;/, _.rI i ' ,-_4~' .; _ W * .» - ' ! {i..».f-~..--r--. ., . 3 _ ~ , .,. . _.. ' " . '91-._ . " . ' l. ~A triphe madein his father-in law'swQYQ;§§1j§ %§§§OSS} Q ' '1'A-! I~ "W". . iffy ,~a' If . f 1-f, Buick, _ .- _ V, :,~'-~§[':-- , _ . . . -.~s»~-M 2. A trip with his wife and children on tne train; ' rgijy 1 3 3. A trip whenwent he aloneby traha,zeturning witha car . ,;;i,gf»; ;~ _.- -_! ~4::-I -r purchased in New York City; . - .='p" ".% ' ' s h. A trip with his wife and children in his own automobilegh ;3 . 5. A businesstrip in his owncar withJOSER§>¢ TERMAGGIO. ~ _Y; A with reference to the above, SARANT advised that he could recall.i F the details of the trip made by him with JOSEPH INTERMAGGIO to New York ~ , 1 City He advised that this trip took place early in 1950, that he and of 92 , . INTERMAGGIO wentto New York in an effort to raise money for the purpose '~'. of buying an interest in La Rock's PaintStore. The tri? lasted approxi-5; . ~"~ metely three or four days. He steyed with his family in Baldwin, Long ~ * Island; IHTERHAGGIO stayed with his family in Oceanside, Long Island. He was with INTERMAGGIO only one day in New York City in an effort to raise some money.He recalled having a difficult time in locetiné INTERMAGGIO~ '1,. and waiting for him in the office of an exporter namedKhNDERSON inMid- I town NewYork. INTERMAGGIOhad instructed him to meet himthere. That ¢ ' was the only time he was actually in Hew York City during this trip. He. * denied-visiting 65 Morton Street on this trip or any other trip to New Y 1 . , » York City since he moved to Ithaca. He denied visiting the SARAET LABQ§;" ATORIES sincemoving to Ithaca. He denied contacting Joixus Rqsmjmlpngon any.of these trips. It has been established through intcrriev with Sub- ' 3ect's wife that while he was in New York on this trip, she had to call in V » a plumber, Brewer & Brown Company,306 W-Lincoln Street_ Ithaca, to have § some emergencyplumbing repeirs made. ROGERBROWN, treasurer of this com-i ; puny, advised that the date of these repairs was February 20, 1950. ~; - :-' , r ' * " ~ v SARANQ/did definitelyrecall oneother tripto NewYork City} fl. F .» He stated thatLQ; went to the city in November_ 19b6,to attend a concert d ' given b;'BEl§H7SANDERSat Times Hell on East h3rd Street. He did not "-TI ~ recall where he stayed or any other details, but added that he might have 4%% see:1_ v§_§§_1.¢_x.i{*§;1.1xss;¢1;Ar1on thistrip. . ,. . .~*'<~.=_»j. A v ..": _, . ,1! s- 4 , ,< *8 - ¢-» I 7 ~ ~. <~_,~_-..'~-. » . x,*1 1 . 1:= *~'- -I.-,,&."?w<.' _. .;., - ¢ .; . -v",¢.,, M» #3 .;_.->_.- e.~* A Q ~ '~ ~. ,-.-.._. -"r;- J 1 inn _. » l 2 £ » .3 AL Gsfiéeu ' 4 I. '@~//I $ 4 » :-. SARAHT, during the course of the interviews had with him, denie ever knowing anyone in New York City on East 7th . Q I h college chum whose name he could not recall. He Street a A visiting 112 East Tth Street_ denied ever having , except maybe some deniedever living at or JULIUS ROSENBERG visit him at this address, anddenied everusing thensme? §lTON; or any other alias . - f 1 1. *1 . -1» 1 During the search of Sub3ect's residence, Spc cial Agent JOHN D. MAHONEY located a book entitled "Microwave Transmission Design Data," published by the Sperry Gyroscope Company_ Inc._ Manhatt an Bridge' Plaza - Brooklyn, New York. This book bears serial #h96h and is marked confiden- tial. The following appears on the inside page: "Confidential ~ This document contains infonnation affecting the national defense of the United States within the meaning of the Espionage Act 50 U.S.C. 31 and 32, as amended. Its transmission or the revelation ' of its contents in an manner to an unauthorized person is prohibited by lawQ" Subject advised that an A ndividualLen nomod w -I-IJosPPe 92 » e G z .. 92 Y r 5 Ix. 1 u 40 _ E r ..5.. :~>' » a 1 I 5 3 A ' . .-r 1 ',;_i.'. ~.. 1 ""'~-"-_3¢§'.'. . . , 1- 4v__. 4;" - I III - , ' ,;¢?.. . PH°T9GR!9213¥§19 ~ 92l .12cccc??c ~2 ZIc1?W?1"T - - ~ SARANT has advised that he has had an interest in photography as a hobby since his high school days and that he was doing his own developing 1 '§ while in high school, with ordinary amateur equipment purchased in some store -,- in Hempstead. He believed that he first owned a small Brownie camera. He " H later purchased a C2 Argus camera in some store in Hempstead for $25.00. He'*¢ M recalled that his brother, WILLIAM, also had a sindlar camera. He believed.' < that orduring he purchased his first the year Argus in at collegeE£l2}§%,éabout the time It: he graduated _ i from high school_, , ' /, ___, .'r' e __ .. .He advised that he comuted from Cooper Union Institute of Technology - to his home in Hempstead and that during this time he had only an intermittent :- interest in camera work. He had, as added equipment, a tripod and recalled he . - may have had flood lights. He could not recall what hapened to this Argus camera, whether he sold it, or when he stopped using it. He did recall pur- T chasing a Bee-Bee camera sometime around 19b5, but he stated he did not re- 5? member if he had his Argus up until this time., He advised that he purchased a the Eee~Bee camera from acperson, whoselast name was GOLDBERG. He stated that- GOLDBERG was working at that time in the Eagle Radar Project, h2nd Street Plant, Western Electric Company, New York City. He described GOLDBERG as ' follows: short, 5'3" ~ S'h"; slight build, l35 lhO pounds; light blond mus- , tache. He stated that he paid $65.00 cash for the camera, also buying a flat' iron for $5.00 at the same time. He believed that these purchases took place ' i after his marriage in July, lQhS. _@1 .. This Bee Bce camera was obtained during_the search of subjoct'si EQ4 residence on July 20, 1950 by Special Agent JOHN D. MAHONEY; Examination - » reflects that the box number is lh28S. It has a 10.5 cmt, F2.9 Meyer Gorlitz Trieplan lens -# 793581; fitted in a Compur shutter # 3537075, manufactured by - , - F. BECKEL MUNGHEN. The camera was originally designed for use with 6.5 cm. , - X 9 cm cut film, film packs, or glass plates; however, a Mice Springbeck ~_" manufact zed by Mice Photo Products Company, Chicago, Illinois, has been - Q attached; o the camera in order to adapt it for use with 2§"X 3%"-cut film or,;p¬ , . . ».~. . _ .. r . . . ,.. -5..- ~" ht- '~._,,__,:.%,,t,, _ _, W _,__: _H ;a_ :_ _ k %* film pack. This Springback hasa ground glass focusingscreen built into d ~ l il it thereby making it unnecessary to remove the ground glass to attach the!; f cut film holder or the film pack adapter. Inquiry made at the Burleigh _l-; Brooks Company, 10 West héth Street, Hew York City, reflected that these Bee Bee cameras were imported by this firm from Germany andwere distributed » in this country_by Burleigh Brooks. ' 1 . ~. . . '4 $4 . -_,-.:I I i Mr. FRANK RIZZATTI, of the Burleigh Bnoks Company, advised he ._. 92 F could locate no record of this camera, but that it must have been imported= 1_ 7 ' into this country prior to 19hD. Subject advised that he himself covered _ 7 ' _ the camera case in brown leather since its purchase and that he also installed. f the mico springback. _ V - + .2; ' ' 92 The following photographic material was also obtained in the search of subject s residence: l Praxidos Enlarger ' l Flashgun and reflecter for camera unknown make!? 1 Pack adapter and ground glass of Bee~Bee camera 3 Bce Bee plate holders W 1 2 Doigtlander plate holders 1 Pack adapter unknown make! 1 Package2% X3% Ansco out film l Leudi visual light meter 6 Empty developer bottles 10 Spring film clamps '- -" He advisedthat hepurchased theenlarger fromJACK ?!?E6SENBAUM-l= , while he was working in the Signal Corps Laboratory at Fort Monmouth. Ac- 53 1 cording to SARANT, ALICEfKKTZ,who then resided in Long Branch,New Jersey~ C and was also employed in the Signal Corps Laboratory, told him that a friend' 3 had an enlarger for sale. Ho was directed to ROSENBAUM andpurchased the _ W Eastenlarger from Sfe, New him for City,York $25.00. SARANT around32nd recalled33rd or that Streets. RLSENBAUM lived on< < the /Y9 ' Subject advised that he purchased two sets of flood lamps cousisting' of two bases with four lights on each base! some place on Fulton Street, New" ;i1>. r -0' " 1 _ . . _. T .v _ _ _ . 92._ A: I _ 7 - _ _r ~11 ~ w#2" 7 gs D r92 3 . . _ ;G.~ 7 -_.V AL. 65-16614 ' 1 York City, after he moved to 65 Horton Street and before he was married; Her , ¬d stated that he used these as floor lamps and also to take portraits of girls who visited the apartment. He also stated that he attempted unsuccessfully to use theso floodlamps in taking document photographs of sheet music while living on Morton Street. He advised that his technique consisted of placing the music on a music rack, illuminating the music with two lamps, and then taking the picture with the camera about two feet away. He believed he used extended bellows. " ~ SARANT advised that he did most of his own developing while living in the Morton Street apartment by using the kitchen as his dark room. He N stated that he once had a bnkolite tank for developing cut film but that he doesn't reall owning one for roll-film. V SARANT denied ever doing any other type of documentary camera work and denied ever using a Leica camera and that he SABANT!used it from time to time.i He could furnish no details as to the acquisition of this camera _ by BARR and advised that he actually remonbered nothing concerning this camera. He stated that in the early fall August-September!19b5, he, his wife, BARR, and VIVIAN GLASSMAN took a canoe trip in the_Fulton Chain, New ~ York Adirondacks and that BARR had his Leica camera with him at that time. ~ He advised that some of the photographs located during the search of his residence were taken on BARR'S Leica camera as were various other photo- graphs taken on hiking trips. _ ' SARANT was asked how he was able to obtain film while he was living on Morton Street during thevwnr, when film was so very sources He advised. that he never had any trouble getting the out film necessary for use in his camera, that many shops on Fulton Street had a more than adequate supply, and that film supply was no.problem at all, He also stated that there were shops that carried odd ends of motion picture film, that such film could be used in some still cameras using roll film, and that he had heard of this practice being used when film was_scnrce. _ . 5 Q Subject was-questioned as to whether BARR had done any photographic work at the 65 Morton Street apartment, He stated that he was quite sure that he had done some portrait work, but never any~documentary work. He also ' in -. - . e , ._ g _ , it -.5 "zs.- 5". /' Fir. r& ie ._,_.92.__.____92., .... ,_, ._ --.. W __ W !92 .92_~._.v.|_- '¢ .._,,92 n _ s s a r 3 3 .92 _ . ¢*" a 1 < AL. 65-166h 92 . ' ~ l stated that BARR had some developing equipment in the Morton_Street apartment from time to time and that he did some developing work from time to time in the kitchen. ' ' 'Y . _ SARANT positively denied ever doing any photogrqahic work at the»' request of JULIUS ROSENBERG. He further_denied ever doing any documentary work other than his attempts to photograph sheet music. He also denied doing any photographic work at BARR'S request or doing an work for the Russian 4 Government or for possible use by the Russian Government. _ . 'i, T _,-.1" r v. I I J ,/' I ~92.- I 1 r _ 4 av l _ 9 _ - to ' 7' ' ' " ' "" ""' "" *" " * ' "-'~" """'->"-*"' "'~+*<~ ~s >~--** 921 ; - =-»-Z --K:*~ -~=~--> 5.4~»~~ _~. _,,_'i>92 ~A.,!b§;9,__ _92>L~. _ > » e i AL - 66% armgva i 1v * - 44. , e 1%, 65 ??QRT<>" AP'1 - £11!-mi ¥<>P~l<. @1111 _~ . ; AIFRED SARANT furnished the following information concerning Apt. 61, 65 Norton Street. New York City. '» SARAHT advisedthat in about August, l9k3, he was transferred to 5 New York City from Bayonne, NewJersey, by Western Electric Company, and ' that he went to New York City in the evenings to look for an apartment. He ' finally located Apartment 61 at 65 Morton Street, New York City. He said that he moved there about October l9h3. He said that no one helped him_ _ locate the apartment . During the course of the search of Subjcct's home on the evening of July l9, 1950 and morning of July 20; 1950, on Cayuga Heights Road, Ithaca, Ne 92-1 York, by authority of a waiver of search signed by the Subject on July l9,'l95O, a lease was located by SA JOHN D. MAHONEY betweenthe Subject and 65 Morton Street Realty Corporation, which agreement was mode on September 19, l9h3. This agrqement was for the rental of apartment 61 at 65 Morton Street. New York City, for a period of twelve months at an annual rental of $5hO. to become effective October 1, 1933, end to end on September 30, l9hh. wt , SARANT advised that the rental for the apartment included water and heat, but he had to pay for gas, lights and telephone. He also said ~ .~92 that he had en A.C. current run into his apartment so that he could use his record player and occasionally use his electric shaver ~ He had this from about the time he moved into-this cpertmcnt at e monthly charge of fifty cents. ' SARANT advisedthat he lived in the apartment at§§ Mortonalone until hc was marriedon July 6, l9h5 to LOUISE JACQUELIN§*ROS§},whosonich- Y name is PQ§SYCAT ggss. or A K? JIi4J7C' ,1»' . >8 .._'-.....' __...__.._.__.._, SARAHT stated that in the summer of l9h6 he decided that he wanted to go back to school to get a master s degree and he came to Ithaca, New¢>' York in September, IQE6, to try and enroll at Cornell University. At the ~ time he decided to leave, JOEL BARR told him that he would take over his SARANT s! apartment tor himself and he intimated that he might turn it = over 0-WILLIAM PERL who was studying in New York. At that time apartments wares "arcc in.How York Cit;, and because of this fact, BARR vented the _. apartment. 4' >5.» .'>,_» W, _ ~.< 92» .*~1_92."-z;-.311"-IA -u~-;1-~-.:-q:-;.-.- U»-. ~»»---»~»~~-- ~ ~ r " - '~~~"I M "'~>"-'"" " ' rrr" ' 1 1» 0 v § AL esiiea. ' . s- , t 92 4 - sanmr stated that man, or whoever stayed at the apartment, want send the money to him and he would send a check to 65 Morton Street Realty Corporation. He said that he told the manager of the apartment that he was would not giving up the apartment because he dian'tknow for sure whether he' I be coming back to New York or not. SARAHT stated that the manager was try~~" ing to oust him from the apartment and to insure that BARR got the apartment- hc left a small amount of furniture in it. He claimed he did not remember that furniture he left there, and said that he was not paid for the furniture. During this interview SARANT said that he kept the apartment until about l9h8, and paid the rent by check. He advised that he received money orders tron BARR for the rent and after BARR left, the date of which he could not remember, PERL lived in the apartment and sent him money orders, some of which came from Cincinnati or Cleveland, Ohio, where PERL was working. SARANT thought that when PERL moved out, he had received a note from PERL stating that SARANT should give up the apartment as he didn't need it any longer. At the time of the interview SARAET stated that he believed he still had the note from PERL at his hone. He thought that it had been a year or more ago that he heard from PERL concerning the apartment. During the course of a search of the Subject's homeon Cayuga Heights Road, Ithaca, by authority of a waiver of search signed by the Sub-_ ject on July 19, 1950, the following letters were located concerning thc'" apartment, by SA JOHN D.MAHOLFEY. ' ,- A letter on the letterhead of 65 Morton St. Realty Corp., 310 East 55th St., New York 22; New York, dated September 27, l9h¬, address ed to ALFRED SARANT, h22 Eddy Street, Ithaca, New York. _ f "Dear Sir: "I have just been advised by the Bell Telephone Laboratories that you left their employ on September ll, l9h6, advising then_that you were planning to enter the teaching profession. This is in direct contradiction of the story you told no when 92 4 5 I saw you at your apartment. - - _ - ' 3 A. -. w F » _ 11 _ » _ . L ¢ 1 __ _ --»* ----~»_i.-~ _»..,.. ~...».._.._ .__.,_._.,i,M~_,,¢_.... _ -.,~.-_92..l,.w.t..,..-._1...»-c»..._ -M . ' _ - W ;,. ~._..__5,;3 ~ _ ; , _ .--41 . ,_ -. _ -L_r_._-_...... 92_,_. ~i_ _ _ , . V 6/4'» u~ . I AL 65 166% 35 "It is very irmortant for me to know immediately when and if you are returning to your apartment. If it is for un' 4 indefinite length of time you are going to be away, I shell ask OPA for the right to re-rent it. Please let me hear from you by return mail. ' v _ { ' "Very truly yours, ' I 92 ~ 65 Morton St. Realty Corp. ROBERT GARLOCK,Secretary " The Subject sent the following letter to GARLDCK, two carbon _ copies of which were located among his effects, together with a reyiscd. rough draft copy. i g .1 ~ "#22 Eddy Place c/o V. K. D. Ross I Itleca, New York October k; 1936. "Robert Garlock 92 310 E5 Morton St. Realty Corp., East 55th Street, _ _ New York, 22, N. Y. ' 92 -. Dear Sir: " In reply to your letter of September 27, 19b6, I rent , 92 to restate to you the following facts: -- . _ r . 92 , 1! It was and still is my intention to retain my New Ygrk ~ City residence at 05 Morton Street, Apartment 61. 2! I do not have a legal residence in Ithaca where I an sojourning temporarily. ~ 3! As you know, my wife is pregnant an because of the diffi- ~ .'. culty of climbing to the sixth floor, she has had to leave f ,. 1 o "the apartment for the duration of her pregnancy and for '4 such time afterwards as her doctor deems necessary. - p . 4' I - 12 * >- vi A r 4* ~ ¢ 92 n 4 _ . ' ! 92"* I _ _ l- ..A,.4..,.,,...i... _92.. _ _ 4 _.,__ _ _.. ,i92_»:i__.92_._ _& .e.~,. -. .l.__1-i92,,._ _.___ , . __ _.__ _ - : i 5 ,.Y -- <51 AL 65-1661+. ~ . 92 . A ..w" -¢ 4"h! I shall be returning to my apartment at regular intervals =~ - and my wife and child will return as soon as it is possible. ' O ' r- "5! The furniture in the apartment is'my personalproperty and . I shell have a caretaker residing there during my periodic . -i 11 < absences. . - '. 1 "I trust that the aboveinformation issatisfactorv to - you. c ._ "Very truly yours, . ALFRED SARANT " Also located was a letter dated January 23, 1950, as follows: J "Mr. Robert Garlock 1 65 Morton st. Realty Corp. 310 East 55th st. New '10:-11,N. Y. " " "Dear Sir: . » "Having decided to make permanent residence in Ithacal 92 I wish to give up occupancy of Apartment 61 at 65 Morton St., -_ effective as of your receipt of this letter. ' ' "I am enclosing a check for $45.50 covering rent for ~ the month of January. .My belongings have been removed from _ . the apartment so it is available now for a succeeding tenant, "Yours truly, _ I ALFRED SARANT" , The above letters were discussed with SARAHT in view of the fact that h e previously stated that he gave up the apartment about a year previ- ously. = He stated he did _not realize that it had been only about six months I but he gclaimcdcould he notremember anythingelse concerning payments, etc=, ' He was unable to locate the letter from WILLIAM PERLin which PERL told him _=% he did n't needthe apartment any more. _ 92 ~~ . ' 4 .. l ~ ' v 1 as V . _ 13 _ Q ___ __ 92 . ., ---__....__.__ .___.__ _ . 7 1 ,__. _.._ In;r._ I._. is-:=....#»;~'e#e'»~_,-e-'~'» *~ ~-'-_92-.~_:><1-us, ~ ~ ~~ A A14 ._~n:,_.. * ¬ ;~¢_*924J :.e. L.¢-es. ~~-e~~-~»-< V,._ _. . ._- p ~ . ,0 .. .e _:,;i7. , - E V Ji I r 1 _ . 1.' I7_..' + 0 W: ~ ..., " ¥ . ::- r _ ' 1/ ~ ' 1'§_. w .<»ml u.. 92 J "» r s . nk a 92- 4-W ..,,,,a,. ,. V':l ;I ,.:. IL, , '1 ni ~=> 1~~_. 1 . .»,-A3 a AL 65-166a '__f?', 4r ~ » Three letterswere locatedin the effects of the Subjectk ch hi 1 v are being set out in full as follows: n 1| "Settcmbcrl9h6 21, *0 ». ls!92 .. 1 1. "Deor,_1?_92g_$:8_and ,5..-4/1'"? 1 . ,- is ,-.1 "Hopc vo re settled and living in the style that one would x like to be a stomcd to. Enclosed are some things that came for you. Let us Y e they are worth the risk of the higher postage that may be seq rod on this letter. A telephone bill also came -, which I plan to ze care of as a devious indication in small part r of my apprccietio in being invited to bc your guest in your H. Y. 92 residence. Amen. Landlord still quiescent as regards me!. ~ 92 I 1 1 .. r ¢ -92 " 2 "I heard and sask éthc at the Phys. Soc. meeting. He'shot I stuff all right. ' 1 ,1 ~ . 1 n % ~ ,4~i , . ~,- PI Q v n I ' I .-L£.. wf~~~-» 0 " ' » ll I1 and wnen you write to onargo »_, w1 l i Jou" inlorm' her that _ , . _: oérnphs! and sketch book or is the later V4 /goo-; 921$s'$upPer here? loft pictures olotP ' ' "what's cookingup there? Regards to Mrs. Ross. Yours ' . i BnuJyé{;i!f5-.- '¥ " - -k * 92 ll_Dcar Al, é , Q "Thanks for tho check. It came in mighty handy inasnuchas I . happened to be in need of some potty cash at the moment. Enclosed .is what I nope is an iron clad bill-of-sale for my few sticks and stones. Of course, thanks for the use of themJ that'swhy you got "them s ~0 caoagly. * nave*- you heard from Garlock? So for all quiet here, Enou gn " oi tnlS.CQrthly ' dLSCOUI5Q.' "I m taking quantum much. unoer H. A. Krmncrs pupil of Bohr! Chai nan of Scientific Committee, u.n. Nat. Atom. EH cemmn! looks A ~like a wonderful course. Also atomic physics under Rabi, general physiolovy under "cl" ' -92 0 0 lg hccnt tho theme of this i»s92 W? .it is Eife?!, ~ , ~ ~.» -11}.- - 1 - ~ - - ~ " ~--'~--/1-7*--»-- »- >14 ----<-_--~~~~-_~._ l> A+l¢s- ~11 - A ,r----92------_~1 -. ~~92@>-g. -__¢.,.l1_~,,_.92,~_¢,_,_; ,_, -,¢,~._~, , u ; __;_,_;_-,x , I N£_»___ _k__ _ _.____-_» _'___ _ I 2 Q 1~ ' . F V Q92 I 92 » -92- Q . t AL as-1661+ "7 I u . I "Partial Diff, Eq. unier Koopman, and a lab. physics course in which I'll do mainly optics experiments. Looks like much pleasant work 1 this term. ; _ , "How'syou? with Write and tellall. Love to Pussand regards' § - 'to Hr.and Mrs.-Ross. I ' ' 1 "Your unworthy colleague, "BILL,-» 4 "P.S. JOEL noticed in a magazine article that the first use of a ' .uogno¬ierZ , read to microfilm wasl8b7. in . "P.S.S. Enclose&'isa letter. I also have one for Spgrgg, Where A ~ - shall I send it? Also advert. circulars from Cue!. Also v Bread and Butter. Do you went this stuff?" . ' v 1 * . * * » ' . Apparently the following receipt was encloso& with the above letter. - "The following pieces of furniture are hereby sold to ALFRED SARANT of 65 Horton Street, NYC, byWILLIAM PERLof Cleveland, Ohio, for . -' ' ~ the su of one hundred twenty dollars, received September 30, 1946: l chest of drawers ' l bureau l loveseat l radio - l tea cert ' 92 2 chairs l maple arm chair _ l mattress - ' "Signed September 30, l9U6 ~_ - 3, wILL£A¢ PERL * * ' % . ~ sf I ' 0 . 0 . T . F 1 , - 92 > * 15 - ~. 92 . v 92 as n4 J ' '~ . .1 , 0 = ~, l_ '-' ,_- . . - .,_ , 1 _. . »- »~ - - '. +~Y ~ ~ ,..',-.-....---_..,,e ,'...... l...._,_._.*___,.-....<-=._: ;l.._.c1.'.__ .______,4 . ,,~,-._,- ..,,...¢ -_».5_..,,_ ¢_.. ._;r@i,,é-,,92_.r__, -;, _ . _,,_., I }___,__:i_:>__M,,_, __,A __ _ _,e.,.._,¢._,_,,,,1.,,.¢c_,_,~....._,.*.,>;._,_,,,._._ -..,.,,_._,. _,¢,,,.A;.,._!._r-,:.Lg,.¢,,., ,_, . -~_;._.,,_.,,._.._~- ... _}- ~,;,.__ Ni _,._ _ > _ . 92 .. . - . 1 . _ .1 * M ». 92 ' v "K AL 65§166u Q- 1 X »~o 3. _ "December 30,l9R6 "Your letter was e delight to read so full of hcppinCSS and good cheer was it. I even smiled intelligently over it. Am glad you-ere in good shape and that Jeremy is growing up so nicely. . Have you received any diapers yet from Joel?! L1,j'@i/Q. ~ . I "By all means add the finishing touch to Al's Moiland Toil by presenting him with e classic tome calculated to keep him occu- pied for the next 20 years. E can recommend no better candidate -_ for such an honor. , ' < | !u "P.A.N. Dirac -- The Frinciples of Quantum -- Oxford . I University Press 1935. About $6. or $7.! A convenient place to . get it from is Universiun Book Export Company, H5 East 17th Street, New York 3, n. Y. They give about 15% discount!. -r . "A small but charming volume is ~ v c "A. Einstein - 'TheMeaning of Relativity -- Princeton- University Press - l9h5. ' "If I can do anything about the Jury let me know. Sounds like a plot by Garloek. , s "Sparg0'$ townin and looking well. "Regards - Love, UB1-LIL" -x- ~x- -1- SARANT wasconfronted with these letters and hestated that they were written by PERL because the manager, ROBERTGARLOCK, at55 Morton Street, was attempting to re-rent the apartment. He stated that the bill of sale for the furniture from PERL was merely a paper transaction. , Q W u x -. » ' ~ I 92 1 ,- .45 -> .. .- .3, .: lb - '.- : . 5 0 k ¢ ~ 1 , > 0 ~ v;_ ¢ _ _ ,-' -_._i_. ..,-,_,~_.. ,l92¢__,.--_..._i_>_>._.l .._,-.»»_-3__~ "~92M ._ .4 _ . _-_._,- __-l.,_¢-.-_. .914.-T->:ly-4l'<9292~A~!-Qn uvm-1-5:__ ..,_,, »~ ... -As.-.»1~c92.¢_~,>_E.1Z'_>'A'.A. ;92,_,__; -: 92_:;O¢ A ,_, Mr I 92 O Q 4 iii, J a ..v .1! 4| »w»», _,_1.»': <- . ¢ .» 1 lg. t I . t >~ _ » 92 §~|- . J 9 £1 I s $ 92 A cw I » '. if . v 1 .,-gt AL 65-1661+ ' '-5 _ g. , ,5~ ..,._' . >4i..., .., i ..»< 1 s.._, ~ »~- Y»- s , , ,92-xi <~. ~_ .e J SARANT wasquestioned aboutthe fact that_§§3L_apparently was "q y a . living in his apartment when be originally stated that he turned the apart ' » went overto BARR. He statedthat he did agree to give the apartment'to'1§i 4-I; _; BARR, but BARR intimated that he might let PERL have it and apparently hc . " 1 " 1 11.1".,"2. ,.l , u did. He stated he was doing a friend a favor and he really didn t eare7 "'51 what happenedto the apartment andhad no interest in it other than getting Q;-I .- .~. ~, n the money monthly, which he did get. ~J .r92..._~¢924 <;_'» _; II - SLRAHT advised on July 20, 1950, in discussing payments-received;@e.; » ~ ,_ .-_.1.-r from BARR and PERL, that he always received the noney from them by money ¢ L, . - - order, never by check to tne best of his recollection. He was asked V __x L 1 .92 J 4» whether they ever paid him in cash and he stated that on one occasion PERL , 1f" s =_1 1 x paid him a lwxp sum in cash; later in the same interview he stated that' ' t . V JOEL BARRnight have given him this money. He said_that it was for six M > months, later changing it to five or six months, and stated further that ' - . ' *"'. 92. it was paid personally in a cash lump sun by either BARR or PERL. V 1 _ *"? , . SARLNT stated that BARR could have given him the money when he -, -a cane to Ithaca, New York in lato"l9h6 or early l9h7. He also stated that_ ,5f», PERL could have given it to him in 19h? when he was at Ithaca. l _ ,s gs Y .. _ ~ .';"_h;_ 1 SARANT claimedhe could not recall the details or who gave him ~, _ 4 the money, further that he did not remember what he did with the money, i* A ~ v92 whether he deposited it or whether he kept it in his pocket. He stated_j 1 that money doesn t meananything to him. i " _ . ;. _"J Q , _ 1 4 Subject stated that he did not discuss the apartment with either BARR or PERL when he saw them in Ithaca, New York. v -. ; ; " ¢ a He stated that when he left New York City to cone to Ithaca,_hoi;_ 92 didn't knowwhether.he would want to return to New York later on so he ' _f wanted to keep his apartment at 65 Morton Street, New York City. He again'w stated that he left some furniture and he could recall that he did leave,a'A_ _bed and possibly a chair; but he could not remember definitely anything ~ ' i else he left there. Subject stated that he left this so that he could hold §" r . the apartment in case he wanted to return and so that JOEL BARR could move.=' 1 in,3 . t ' . ' __ ~.5~§?92 . , R» R ' -» !| , i I 1 . _ ';. ' -" " .2! " ' 4 'Lnll M Y .-§92_'~é._>;~:!z{ " . .";.,¢> » , .. ]_ _ V . _ » _=A._~.92In r ;'-1.~!-1 » {Y . t .1. . -;-,§,- =3: v _,_ »,. 53".. ' §. ; }":3..= 4 . 4 <7 .. '- Y Q k.--.: 5 I . ~ ~ 4 ..92 . ! 92-s_. .-492__b¢AA ~l.__92__,___ ,_, A _, _ H V _ _ ___ _ V _ A ,,_M:,,~*,»___,4_._ _,>_x_~d;D____ an ,_1A_,V___-ck h_ ___ _._X______ ____'_yd Q:_1 .'e._£~.Z1j.. ., ~ 92;;92 > _e.._._ »;__- _ . 1 W A . , . ~ 1 .92 92 ~< . < 92 .w», ~ J u is i ,4» 4 -1 =9 , » r . _,,l.' 92 AL. 65-1661+ :.' t SARLHT stated that he could remember perfectly that he aid not _H give e key to JOEL BARR or anyone else, because JOEL BLRR had a duplicateL key. He stated that BARR had a key because he occasionaly stayed at the apartment " ane he was e good friend of his. SARANT stated that he still _ t has e key for the apartment. H . t 1 I Subject said that BARR told him that either he or PERL would ' use the apartment and whoever used it woule send the money to him. up L said that he did not have the utilities changed over, but left them in _ .. his name. He stated that he presumed they woul pay these bills; He . _ .~x¢.- _ bu ; . 92 recalled that he had received a refund of $15.00 from the Gas and Electric . - 1 was. He claimed he never asked either BARR or PE3L;about this and stctcd' that no one ever mentioned it to him. '- Company after he moved to Ithaca; New York, but he did not know when this':'-6 *1 3 SLRLHT reuuibered that he received a lettcr_fron the Telephone Company asking permission to shut off his phone, but stated he could not recall when, or any of the details of t is matter. - ' | S H A SARAHT advised that his wife was cognizant of the apartment , » arrangements with JOEL BARR and that s e sometimes made out the checks for payment of the rent. He also claimed that she sometimes cashed or » deposited the money orders received for payment of the rent. v ~ ~ On .m1;,-21, 1950, s,mr;:': fvrnisheclthe following :1-.';<1ition0."l"F ? information concerning the aparuxn n > He stated that 3- Lad never been beck to the apartment since he '5 1. left there in l9h6. r An outline of the apartment was awn by the Subject, this being'§92 Apartment 61, 65 Morton Street, New York City.'According to him, the __ . ayartment was on the 6th floor nn Q hall leads to the adert ent This =5 ' hall leads into the middle of the livin room. with the kitchen to t e "~3: r 1 92 vright. On the left was a bathroom and a clothes closet; beyond the bath " ! and clothes closet was the beQroon._ . t 1 4 92 J . . » n - A . , . ~ ;'In going $2. over toe pnysicalset up01 txeapartment the with ; Subg: t, he recalled that there was a bed and bookcase in the bedroom. lwn i _ ._ ., I - 4 . ' v~_ h§'», .~'_.=- 1 '-V:., _ [Q3 n. _,.. 2' I <-_'-113$, | . " j. ¬ . ;-;_'am». -41».if 4 » a "41._> t <3. >. __ l8__ , .< -, v .,. 1 ys~ . .. ¢ . -1~_ ;92" .1, ':_;- , _ . I ! "Zn..» , , "4 1 . 1 Z -4~- , -. . " ,. __ _,_,> _ R , , t, 14:_4 h92!:-Y ¢~_ _ -~_ - - ~_~-1: 7 7- -»--'-A ~~'-V» - ~ ~~» 1--'~e _'-~~*~ "~ * *' ' ' " W **" " ' 92 I 92 .- . 11. _ ill is . " -T1;~ -O ' 1 . y si i; AL 65-166k - > 1* I , .;- " I . -| '|I o~ ' , 1 s 4 _He did not remember where he got the bookcase but he remembered that he I_ purchased the bed, which was o Hollywood type double bed, from Hecrn's on ,;w_4 lhth Street, New York City, and believed he paid $39.95 for the bed end _ K the some for box-spring mattress. 'He was positive that he bought this * , _[T after he moved to the apartment. .A K Y 92 He recalled that he had a folding card table of dork color 'l~ which he brought vith bin from Bayonne, New Jersey. He stated that he used this table in the kitchen to cot on. He said that es for as he could;ts- recall, this was the only furniture in the_kitchen except for some chcirs,f¥f . .,. In the living roon there was a day bcd,uhich he~still has in hisT§*' home in Ithaca, together with a maple table which he also brought to ' ; _; Ithaca. He had his record player and cebinet,a]so now in Ithaca, and - ' ' believes that he had o maple lamp but doesn't know what happened to it. 92~.1 After going over the furniture set up, the Subject advised that. the only things he knows he left in the apartment were the bed, the card table in the kitchen, and the lamp. ~ l _ b u The Subject advised on July 2k, 1950, that he could not find the key that he had for Apartment 61, 65 Morton Street, New York City, and that =» he had either lost it or had made a toy out of it for his son, STEVEN. >= ' 51 He stated the key had 61 stamped on it and that he had stamped it on the _' t key himself, probably while he was at Western Electric Company.. . , .-, SARANT advised that he and his wife had talked about the sports mcnt and they could not recall how they were advised that they should givet"v up the apartment. He stated they were certain that it wasn't by telephone, or telegraph, and he believed it was a note with the last money order, . r telling him to give up the dpartmcnt. He stated that his guess was that _ PERL sent the last money order. . ~ .~ < .j Subject advised, after talking with his wife, that he could now 3", ' recall one occasion when they received o money order from VIVIAN GLASSMAN.-: ~ He could not explain why he should have received the money order from her. - WILLIAI-§ He PERLwas sure that and the VIVIANonly GLASSMMI. ones that ever paid the rent were ' - JOE§ §ARB,, M ~' ~ D ~ p L u 1,1 ' J I : M 1 I P 19 Y _M-_ "' '~ .- .-. 1 '_ }';~~.% , ' 1,-=.'. ~ v 1 .A w t; A e - _= -8 _;-._:»>»,.,92.._~ii i-..'_._.._.ia...._._.._c.._..,Li.., . _ _ -. J -~ .--J-~»~T»~ ~ _».-»»~_. M .. --A:¥~_~'A ->4';:¢'r~§.,.¢L&_*' -=4» * 0 - .' v*1 v 1 1 W» . , A ' 1 AL 65-166k v . _,,._ 3 1 .1 4 It should be noted that the Subject stated that he received'7 ~ AU money orders from JQEL BARR, WILLIAM PERL and YIVIAN GLASSMAH for the - ' payment of the rent on all occasions, with the exception of one lump wt, sum which he received, information about which has been set out above.~;=3j Albany Confidential Informant T-1, of known reliability, " ~l ii checked his records and advised that the following money orders were sent to the Subject as payee, on the following dates: Date - -£7 -k7 3 k7 10-28-A7Amount ' $h5.5O 1-22-#8$h5-50 $h6.o0 11-2h-n8$u6.oo 8-8~h9 M . O . Iimnber $h5.00 . . -u ' v- 162,213 i $u6.oe Remitger 57,hZ# 1% v 195,001 M;;PEnL Station ~ 1 F ; $h5.00 Q , Village H 199,693 n~ ' ncm V Bryant ' ¢ § , ,,»sAvi 4...? , . . <7 e In the 211,o1u w PERL Village ~ A145 _' .5M 2 . 913 57h . » W: PERL Village - ?%fE{Lr:g92%"-Y, 1 0'.. W. PERL I _ 958 , #87 1 17,1 ,1 . W. PERL Village "1 ,1 92 12 r VIVIAH G SMAN Columbia $ 1 1 LAS Church_ _ _ u , . .-K .~ -3 search of Subject's residence, several hundred cancelled ,,.. checks were located by SA PETER F. MAXSON. An examination of*these checks ,.. reveals that the following were made payable to and cashed by the 65 Morton g"":,1 Street Realty Corporation. These checks are listed below by date and by ~ maker. Numbers of these checks are also listed when available. All cheeks » v listed were made out in the amount of $h5.5O. ;4 ,. $» Du ; __ _ M i_ .';; jKL /921L t - ~"<"-'* ~_"I' *:-~_ 3~~-~ ~-=.-_ ':~ ' "_ * ' " W" ""' ' ' . . 'Gi§? ' , $% E 1. k »-' .%i' § i" j 0 is , AL 65-166a .§.. V ' In addition to the cancelled checks listed above, several check stub books of the First National Bank, Ithaca, New York, were located .t_ _ during the search of Subject's residence. Items reflecting payment to f? - W» jMorton Street Realty Corporation, which are not supported by cancelled . 3 :1, _ checks listed above, and which are contained in the stub book, are here- Q inafter listed. All of these items are in the amount of $h5.5O and appear in the stub book under the following dates: c ~ 11-21-n7 ~ - 12-ii-1+7 1-2-I->8 - 9 l~3O-R8 3-k9 _ I 2-an-ha 9 ' 1 §t,Stsmfor§,_Ngw York; » l r. FRED TICE and Hr. HENRY ELHYN, SR., formerly Assistant ' Superintendent of the apartment building at 65 Morton Street, New York City, and Mrs. FRED TICE, were interviewed. on July 28, 1950 ' Mr. FRED TICE, who new resides on Main Street, South Kortright, New York, was interviewed st his place of business in Stamford. He stated . - that he was Assistant Superintendent of the 65 Morton Street apartment~. from Novenberl9hLto October, l9h6. f . , n Mr. TICE said he knew ALFRED SARANT as a tenant who resided in Apr.-.rmc-mt 61:. 1-=11». TICE stated that he ma occasion. to sec SARAI-IT and _ * talk to him n number of tines. It was pointed out by Hr. TICE that he ' collected the rent each month from SARLNT which he was often tardy in paying. Payments were usually by check. On some of these rent collect- ing visits to SARAHT's apartment, he would be invited in sometimes for a drink. . ' ¢ . ' Mr. TICE advised that he had been in the apartment a few times 1 to fix windows and doors. He recalled the first time he had contact with i SARANT was in late November, l9Rh, when he had to fix a pipe that was leaking in the bathroom. It was also stated by Mr. TICE that in the winter_,_01_' 191+5-19%, cs he recalls it, he e.nd1~ir. HENRY EL .~.- YN, Sr., u 1 s - suycri tendent of the building, removed a wire, apparently an AC wire- fromSS%RANT's rpnrtncnt. This wire was stapled to the window in the-Y . . 4» I - 21 - ~ W ~ . - . e . ' .92 . . ,»" _.. 4'1 * _~ _._..-..e,___, .»_._. e_._._» ;___._ _a_»_.,>_._.< ~_-ads... e,...... ».d»___ ...l.. . _ _92. _,.. _ - £>I 4"! ...-,<.»...._...._~,....-,».»:. g A _ _ L... ,. _;a_ 1. _ .-_.l ,__,_s _ . _ . ___ l V. _.e,,_ ¢ 4 AL 695-1661+ living room of apartment 61 and was"hanging down the side of the building. , Mr. TICE was not certain whether this wire was fastened to a window of .- Apartment 51, which was directly beneath Apartment 6I. This wire, which, ,_;.¢ TICE has maintained in his possession, was obtained during the course of ;" 3* this interview. ' - i ,'j ~ ' r . - I -.1. Mr. TICE said that from these visits to the SARANT apartment, he . '1 recalls that there was never much furniture. He remembered seeing a hone- » made bed in the bedroom, a work bench in the living room, and some radio - equipment which caused Hr. TICE to assume that SARANT was a "ham" radio ' operator. Mr. TICE could not name any specific radio equipment that he ¢ saw-and said he remembered that at the time he noticed it he thought of it ~» 1 as being radio equipment which would be in possession of a hen radio Q operator. Mr. TICE went on to state that following SARAHT's marriage in -- - the summer of 19b6, it appeared that little by little more furniture was added to the apartment's furnishings, but_that there was never very much ' in the way of furniture there. Mr. TICE also mentioned that he recalls , seeing a musical instrument, just what instrunent he can't rene ber, and a music stand_in the apartment. . Hr. TICE stated that prior to the summer of l9h6, which was the time that SARAHT informed him that he was married, that there were often girls who visited the apartment. Mr. TICE said he never knew the names of any of them and doubts that he would recognise the pictures of any of them except SABANT s wife, who lived with SARANT in the apartment prior H " to the time they said they were married. Mr. TICE said that parties were often held in Apartment GI, both before and after SLRANT's marriage, but mostly before that tine. In describing these parties, Mr. TICE said that they seemed to him to be big raucous drinking affairs. He did not recall any musicales being held in the apartment. - ~ " Mr. TICE said that SARAHT and his wife moved out about a month, as he recalls it, prior to the.time that he, Hr. TICE, concluded his job," which would place it around September 1, l9h6, that SARANT left. TICE " said that he was in the apartment once following SARANT s departure and noted that all the furniture had been removed. Mr. TICE said he remembers SARANT tolling him he was leaving because he was being transferred in his job, and that he was moving to Massachusetts. TICE further advised that he wa§ introduced by SARANT to the nan that was going to take over the . ~ apartment wlen SARANT left. He said that SARANT introduced him as "my _ cousin" but he does not new recall the man's name, -¥_ ~ '1 * z . ,_ , . . - r ' 22 - , .' p v ';~_:'_1~;~_ ;+~_- nu vG7 &_'@._.t »- -3-1-.~.. ~x:i=.mz:~» ..a- ..-.s.~-M-,e-. _::s::=r.'¢-s=_..__e-..;-anzza-r p ._ !~ > 4.1. -H__92_...., . ._ , _ i-»»-_~,....<,»~ . q J 0 1 .- l.» 92 AL 6%-1661+ .! _ ~ . . , when Mr. TICE was shown 0. photograph of JOEL BARR, he stated W '' that it could have been the men who replaicecl SI.R.- H~I'I_ in the apartment, but that he could not be certain. Mr. TICE said he never again sea.-r the new A tenant following the introduction uentionec . above and cannot positively .- = state when or whether this new tenant actually moved there. Hr. TICE ex- ' , . v. 3 plained that he, TICE, was himself moving from the apartment building at 1: about that time. . 4 It was Mr. TICE'sc-bservation that the -SARANTapartment had AC current throughout the time that SI'.R.AI -1'1 lived there. I - / 1 GREENGLASS, PhotographsROSENBERG, of ALFRED JULIUS4SARAN if, BRUCE1§fJ§'TOl-I, EL BARR, H. ELITCHER, DAVIDGREEI-. G_LASS, WILLIIXILPERL MAX and MORTOI-ISOBELL wereexhibited to Fr. TICE. He izzmedietely recognized 1 u SARANT and BARR. He advised that he often saw BARR entering and leaving t the apartment building and often tines he would be in the company of , ~ » sm.'a~:T.TICE Mr. said he would not say positively , but feels certain '" * that he has actually seen B1-.711 in1S1 -.1 e 92l ~!'I"s apartment.Mr. TICE identified JULIUS ROSENBERGas n person he recalled seeing: in the drug; store at 85 Barrow Street. He said he positively rezzenbers seeing him the-re as a ' * customer. He was hesitant in ic .entif3/ing ROSEPIBERG from the photographs in whic}; ROSENBERG isnot wearing glasses, but when shown photograph of ROSENBERG wearingglasses, he zimde a positive identification. " A 92 ' Mr. TICE stated that he recalls having seen W. BRUCE DAYTQN butt he could not place wliere. Mr. TICE also said that wILLL' -1PERL'"struck a fmiilizrr cord" with him. He failed to identify DAVID GI I-Irs. FRED TICE _we.sinterviewed and she could furnish nothing that her husband had not previously covered. She did,exp1o.in that she and her husband. sometimesobserved the "wild" parties that were held in Apr-irtment GI from the roof 01 the building. - ' The 1>l3O bO'{;I 8.ph5SARI-.! ?'I , of 1511113,DAVII! zuicl RUTH GREEI'7GIs tSS,. _ JULIUS ROSENBERG, W. BRUCE Di92Y'1 OI-E, I~2A! ELITCHIER, WILLIAI5 PERL 9.116.MORTON SOBELL were shown to Hrs. TICB. She iatunediately recognized S.! .R./- .I-IT and " - wasBARR.prigr, She said she BARRsaid, used to tosr.r . ' . A_ a ' 4' .- -23.. ______~_ _,, _.___ V. _ __l_ _' _. _-~wsr_A-_-1»- ~ ~'=~13-'1' - '1Y -""~ ' A .-.._¢_. l _, _ ___ ,_ 4.. »l._Q- ~ - 92§ k4 - »---s -~~ ._ r r " ' 4 v 92 AL sen ,i.* I 1 ¢ -92'but 'could make no further idcntiiication. She did not recognize ELTTQEE,~ 721,4 - if S9BEL§_prMrs. Q§ylD,or TICE QQ$§_§REQHGLASS. observedthat ROSENBERG'§ picturevery was' familiarT" 72 ; 4 ~.v " ~ , ~ Mr. HENRY S. ELWYN, Sr., who now resides at Stanford, New York, RFD, advised that he was Assistant Superintendent of the apartment build- _ing at 65 Morton Street, New York City; for approximately 16 months. He .< gave March 15, l9h7 to July 15, 19b8, as the approximate dates of his cm-' 4 ployuent there. ' i Mr. EIMYN stated that to his recollection, he was in Apartment .61 only once. As he recalls it now, he entered this apartment one Sunday meats.morning Mr. to turn_off ELWYH said the water he does which not remember was running anything in concerning the shower. Thisthe entry wasinterior made of following the apartment. a complaint He could from a tenant not say whether in one there of the adjoiningwas any aparti furni- ture in the apartment. He finally remembered that he noticed a towel . _ hanging on the rack in the bathroom. - . - A l H It was Mr. ELwYN'sobservation that he never saw anyone enter or leave apartment 61 during the time he worked in the building. Mr. ELWYN advised that he recalls that he was also under the impression that ALFRED SARANT was the person to whom the apartment was leased, but since he, ELWYN, never had any occasion to contact the tenant in this particular apartment, he never saw the occupants of it. Mr. ELWYN stated that it was his duty to collect the rent from the tenants in some of the apartments I but that Apartment 61 was not one of those from which he collected. It * was. ~, Hr _ DLdYU's1 T . ' J 1FDrCoSlOD .0 that~ the rent on this apartment was sent - _- I 1' directlyn i to tJ¬ I p Realty Con any. ' Mr. ELNYN stated that he remembers that on one occasion, a ' package containing literature was delivered for Apartment 61 from a pub- lishing house. The date of this was just after July h, l9h7, but the name of the publishing house and the type of literature was unknown to Mr. ELWYN. atthe Mr. door ELHYNof the saidapartment that he received building and this package placedit in from the the storeroom delivery boy~where it was picked up later by a person or persons whom he did not see. -- " I 4 u :4. -2h- J , , ' K _ 1 >.5 _ _ _ I -A!; .,._.., ~ _ ._.-,~1... . _:l»1.,-._i.'__.___._-:.i,_.__:__. L_;_,_ -__=:.;4...-.-ea»... ,~_;_ _ ,_ M __ .1" 2" 3 * ..; '23 92 *7 4 P,_ . AL 65-16624 ' - Mr. ELHYN reiterated that he never saw or heard any activity " in Apartment 61 during his tenure as Assistant-Superintendent. When . ' - asked specifically concerning any meetings, musicales, parties and the like that may have been held in Apartment 61, Mr. ELWYN saidhe did not Y remember ever seeing or hearing about any. ' » <1 Photographs of ALFRED SARAHT, JOEL BhRR, DAVID GREEEGLASS, RUTH GREENGLASS, JULIUS ROSENBERG, W. BRUCE DAYTON, MAX ELITCHER, WIIIJQQQ PERL and MORTON SOBELLwere exhibited to Mr. ELWYH; but he failed to identify any of then with the exception of JOEL BARR. He identified 1 the photograph of BARR as a nan for when he fixed an automobile clutch _ around May or June, 19MB. Hr. ELWYN statedhe thought the car was a l9hl Studebaker. He could give no further description of the automobile. - Thc_car, according to ELUYN, was parked in front of either 53 or 59 Marten Street, but he does not know whether the man lived in either of the buildings at those addresses or not. Hr. ELWY said that was the first and last time he had ever seen this person. Mr. ELWYU advised that there were easels in the back seat of this car which lead him to believe that the man was an artist. ELWYH said he did not ask the man's name;that when he finished the job he was paid cash for it, end where the man went from there he does not knew. . ELWYH said that his contact with the person that he identified as BARR cane about as a result of inquiries made by BARR in the neighbro- hOu for a person who could fix automobiles. Mr. ELWYH said that in addition to being Assistant Superintendent of the apartment building, he also, from time to tine, did mechanic's wort. ~ I ' 1 J 92 -25- , 1 ,, 92 . " _" ' 7 * ' ' ' 7' " * * ----"J 92 --=' »---- - ::; »--»=.:- ---= 7 7 .______;__ _ _ _.._ - @' 5! . .- ¢ . j. ¢, . J . » AL 65-166k JDMEVAT , . v- ' ,_». JOUL BARR':~ Subject furnished the following information concerning BARR on f J July 19, 1950. . . - . If .~ ,.. _ . He stated that he worked at the U. S. Signal Corps, Monmouth, New Jersey, and he believed that he met BARR there under the following _ _ , circumstances. SARAHTworked at Signal Corps from Scptenbcr 22, l9hl to September 5, l9h2.! He stated as he recalled it, BARR came'around , , where he was working and tried to sell him a subscription to the Con- _ sumers Union reports. This was sometime shortly after he started work- ' = ing. He recalled that BARR worked in the Specifications and Records Section at the Signal Corps. SARANT stated that he and BARR became friends and that they may ' have seen each other weekly at BARR's residence in Long Branch, New _ '4 Jersey, or at his residence in New Jersey. Thcy.lived about two to- three miles from each other. SLRAHT stated that BARR was discharged from the Signal Corps because he was a Communist. SARANT denied that he know of his own knowledge that BARR was a Communist and stated that he never discussed it with BARR, , SARANT advised that he SARANT!was discharged on September 5, l9h2, from the Signal Corps with prejudice, for failing to obey orders. 1 He then went to work for Western Electric at Bayonne, New Jersey, and 2 when he wcht there BARR was already working there in the mechanical end f of Radar. About a year later both he and BARR were transferred to the Western Electric at 59th Street, New York City,-but'not at the same time as far as he could rencmber. A Subject advised that he may have first met JULIUS ROSENERG_- through JOEL BARR and he believed that BARR and JULIUS ROSENBERG were I classmates at college. _ _ '} ' The Subject stated that he left 65 Morton Street, New York City - for Ithaca, New York, about September, l9h6. He did not-recall the exact w mowe§JOEL date. He advised BARR told that him apartments that he would were take scarceover and the that apartment when he decided at65 to " jl 1 Mort 'Strect. As far as he could remember, BARR told him that he needed ~» J. 92 . ' " . - Q6 - 4 .45 l. .,...... _._r..ai...=.....o._.,..-e_._,3,,,¢.- l.. .l i..._.,- _,._,. ._. . . A _ ,_.,_.>,-i..i_'-.. 2!; ....-_ ,._'... ,4"! .; ..._._ 1- _ I __ - _ 1% A 2 Ti ! -1 J - »92J mi 5 -, e ~_ _ AL 65-1661+ u s . ~ . .-.- 4J1 2 , .,;..;;'~ . -v an apartment for himself and intimated that he might turn it over to"* = WILLIAM!PERL, who was studying in New York. He was not sure exactly-~ ; what BARR told him, but because of the scarcity of apartments and be- vx§;_ causeof an argument with his landlord, it was agreed that SARANT wouldfgi f g leave a little furniture in the apartment,_that he would pay the rent, fki; y. ; and that BARR, or whoever stayed there, would reimburse him. .;;,i~? ¢§;};,» , . . » . : . The Subject stated that the last time he saw BARR was one Yxft f time when BARR came to Ithaca to visit him. He could not recall the ' date, but thought it was sometime in late l9b6 0: early l9h7. He said f that BARR, as far as he could iemember, was out of work and had bought. " § - an automobile, and said he was going to Florida. SARANT stated he has Q.~ never heard from BARR since that date and he was emphatic on this point.F4 . '1 . | '. .x_. SARANT said that he had heard that BARR was in Finland, andigzd__! when questioned about this thought that he might have learned this by x:-. , calling BARR's sister IRIS¢'§ARR!on one of his trips to New York City. 5 He did not remember where the BARRs lived, but thought it was some place_ on 97th Street in New York City. He thought she told him that BARR was, " in Finland studying music. " " ~~ " . " .' v 1 s During the search of Subject's home on the evening of July l9 lf .'1 and morning of July 20, 1950, a letter was located by SA JOHN D. MAHDNEY;, dated December 21, 19b8, addressed "Dear PUSS and AL" and signed, "Lovc, 7 IRIS." Subject stated that this letter was from IRIS BARR, the sister -§* _. of JOEL BARR. The letter states that JOEL was in Stockhohm, Sweden at '_~ the present and was attending the Technical University there. According to the letter, he was very happy and regretted the day he would have to Q return. The letter further states that YBILL PERL was up to see us.' Do you know that he's in Cleveland" He too hasn t heard from JOEL. It ~~~ seems to me that JOEL lost complete ties with his USA friends. Nobody J X even hears from, except my Mom and7ARTIE nnd?ROSE." J g '; ' _92 . The letter further stayed that in case they wanted to write "= . to JOEL, his address was "Mr. Js»BARR, care of Anderson Markuardsgaten. ' -1 ll, II Stockholm, Sweden." ' ; . . _ _ V} r when the Subject was confronted with this letter he stated x 3 .0 , that he had completely forgotten about the fact _ that B92RR's . sister h ad ¢~_ 4 written giving JOEL BARR!s address in Stockholm, Sweden. . _ v ~_ V-"1 .:- D ~ -.1 Y " v .. -; Q; » v. 92 7 I 4- 92 7 92 2 g '1 -'. ," * .¢z .~;s. - 27 _ ; »¢ i..}g<#: . ».t_;-,; .'-. » *- '.~ 4 , . -.¬;': -;;~"~~ = r , ..~;.2~.U~§ 1._ » ' - we ".' 1 A E : ': ,»- "';1.,. 4 2 N s ¢ -, ' 3 1 ~:.._ y. . ..' .~'-". - ,. -' - . so st W ¢ 4 i 1 V 1'-< . » 1 ,<. 5 . I _.¢ W During the course of the sane search, two letters addresse to 92 The 92 "Dear JOEL" by BILL PERL, were located and are being set out below. TY first one, undated, reeds es follows: . A ". .-». 1 1 "Deer JQEL;ij_» I yf < JIii "I and nine are well and hope you and yours ere likewise. ' _ The point and necessity of this letter is the guitar. Enclosed is e noninnl sun for purchase of said instrument. eedless to say, HETTY and I are deeply grateful for your interest in this matter. Thanks to you end AL. §; ~¬*"§ .1 1./z '-1 /3" - . We'reJstuQying German from a grammar now. It is called the New German Grammar, and the English ports are easy-going. "Otherwise ell is strictly in a rut so to speak. Thanks ¢ again. ' _ _ ' . _ _"wIn§,/%é!§j;_ ' The second letter is dated April 8, 19h5, and reads as follows "Dear JOEL, ' Guitar received with all chorus in good order; also letter. will pay you balance when I next sec-you. - "About vactioning this summer. Even the thought of carry» y in; e canoe appeals to me. What would you say, however, to taki no e cabin or two by the shores of some Minnetonka or ether, with canoes available for short excursions into the hinterland? A fixed base of operations, say in some state perk or other, can . make things right comfurtable, particularly at night. Let me hear from you on this vital subject, as to where, when, who, etc I can take a_g?weeks vacation, I think, just when, I can't say yet. whntfa .., "Life is the usual hundrun routine. The war reverbcrates 4 > pe§nefully all around me. They say it will soon be over. That woulu . be nice. -I 92~. -D 92 e -28.. , r . 92 K§_AA .__._.__..~ »-../. ..._~92...»~-J-= ~.~'~~-~-~--~ -- » ~14.-__-~ _ »» 7» - ~ - - - - ~~ - =- _ »~-M- ~~-V -.4 ..- _..- .~- &_ . @@ i oh AL 65-166a I what do you think of my new literary tyle as embodied in " , §'f' _ Q the previous paragraph? It is intended to be blood curdling. , _ M; . * F . ~ w "Let's hear. ' ' ' _ I . f§§TY.and WILL 4 u "P.S. Ever heard of Candlewood Lake in Connecticut. Nice place.- I State parks on one side." ' . The Subject was questioned concerning these letters and it was pointed out to him that they were addressed to JOEL BARR. He stated " that he had no explanation as to how they happened to be among his papers, other than the fact that JOEL BARR visited his residence at 65 '§ Morton Street frequently, and on many occasions would read a letter in the apartment and leave it there. He stated that when this occurred * it was undoubtedly picked up by him and placed in the desk or some other » receptacle. A ~' 9 On July 20, 1950, SARANT advised that the money for the apart- ment was sent him in the form of money orders from either WILLlAM!mR§BL'~ or JOEL BARR, and he knows that he never received a check from either of them for the rent. He was questioned concerning when and the dates each paid him, but he denied that he could remember. He stated that he re- called receiving a lump su in cash for five or six months rent and he could not remember when, but remembered that it was paid to him person- ally and was not sent through the mail. He thought that it could have been given to him when BARR came to Ithaca, New York, to visit him in .1 late l9h6 or early lQh7, but he was not sure. He stated it could have" '_ ¢ been given to him by WILLIAM PERL. Subject recalled that when BARR came ° to Ithaca, he did so specifically to see the SARANT's new baby, who was born on December A, 19h6. He believed that BARR was here shortly after _= this time and he recalled that BARR had a Packard automobile. ._ In connection with the apartment, SARAHT remembered that he did ' not give his key to BARR because BABE had a duplicate to the apartment at ' 65 Morton Street in New York. He stated that he had given a duplicate key - to BARR because they were good friends and had a mutual interest in music, hiking and photography. He stated that BARR used to stay there at 65 Morton Street occasionally. He could not remember how often. _ . - J ,4 r~ I 4 . =9 . Q vi . . , I : .- =>- ' , AL 65~166u '5!-F-~; . In. 92' W . P , . .-» , ; H In com:c»c"t-ionx-zit}: tin; pnyrncnt 01 the rant whsn BARRtéok over 1 < th"; t~1?0.rt1n<:nt;he rc:¢;.11.l-:~c'-.BARR snl;-'1'.z1L; that either he or P3131, wcul use 7 4' ' ha a;mrtrna~rzt, an-1 that -=1i;o-:v.:r usul the agmrtancnb would send the money i ;'. _ > _ tr SARAIKT. H0-..'-as q_uczstrE ~ SARAPTI sintccl tlzart kc and L1?-.?.R andother friends , the names of_ whom he xculcl not rc:[email protected] or stat-1-<1 bedid. not 1:11-'2».-,often woul . go on -.7 W-l¢<51<'-Yndtrips !i;ing tcgathcr. czuld.n't rc:z.1=2nzb~:.r xrlzurcthe trips 1 were. Sic ==d."-.~'is:;< :.E.-'=_lRR "mat11¢ 1:-en . cr.3.cm titccc Y.'..';!Olasting ; trips' _ v T01 1? -I° ~ C'>:s, ti"c inJ.eJ.:tc-r part of A-1-R -: 92~1-Stcarly 1_-cart or of Scptcmbcr, _ 19:43; 191? ;and. 1915. Subjuct ét-c-.t<.-iitI":.:.-, tlzeyalra-ys had .2 cr-xncraon th sc tripu He bc1iev¢d he had his own Argus c-2 Camera on the 19h3 t1"iP» Z1116. _t -:-'it .2a-1'b1'C>ugl:t tl-=<.;,'Argus his or ?3ARR's CameraLeica on the 197-#14trip. He state'i'}z-;>not rc::"nu::.'mr.' did. On the l91+5'trip they _ ' b1 °921F5?1t B.AZil'-sLoica Gamer:-._; he was 1 :~.irl;,'of sure this. . n t - -vu~; :c"c#1» s oc. tc,C'-.far asas I'>~:."~rctall, cculzl he and JCEIJl . -.:-.-nt on ti;-.: rst trip c.lon<:. on *;1~=<-.~ secondtrip , BARR, and _agirl - ncmr;-u_V1VL3Z'F tho ;a::1';. cazwc trip tcntth-:r. This was in 191$. He denied. ~ @¢@t he kncv 111A§=s last n&mQ and iuscribcd her as a friend of BARR e. - _ I - . ¢ Pv _ __ . . ~" ~. » ,. ~ --¢_',-+1 . _ 1" : i'."u ~. . ' '1 -92." 4 I 92 . 1 ' ~| x _ __ _ _ _A_ ,,,r,_, ,1 3 ,.,...-.'...,-_-.,,__...»'..~->.,..,>;,,_ r1 ,_ _ ...~ -.-@,~.--'M_ A tin .-U ; v»F<1 .;p:!L ~ ~;__;._-Q7. . ,.;_'-._§M.,n:~.~_- ;._:92l,. ;_-;~__.______. - P ¢#" . . - .4 0 AL 65-166k - ix . 0 J i » SARANTstated thathe may have attendedmusicales BARR's at home on 97th Street. He denied that he could remember BARR s eddrcss,§ 3 - - on 97th Street. He believed that many of the photos taken on the various hiking trips were taken with BARR's LeicaCamera. , On July 2h, 1950, the Subject stated that in talking to his wife, she recalled that BARR telephoned them at M22 EddyStreet, Ithaca, - 1-I New York, to say goodbye before he left for Holland. He said that he could not recall any of the details of this. - On July22, 1950,Subgect furnished_furtherinibrmation-con-H ccrning JOEL BARR which is set Ont in the Rcchion of this report - ' entitled fsqgnnw p¢§Q3ATnRTns." r » I- 1 92 O .1 I , % 31 ' .32, 92 4 1 ¢ ..__,1_ _~r~ * k 5 .,_;< ,_,,__,_,.,,' _._,.,,i..l.l,..,e____V _~_ __ A __.. ___, - ,~ as-. 4 ~ ----~~~---~ L.-.-...... ,_,.__. _ _».l.-to M... - >_... L. e e , AL 65-166k JDM:AIN " " vI H 1 311 LLI. J=i PERL L » 1* 5 .2 + On July l9, l95O, ALFRED SARANT furnished the following in- Y formation concerning WILLIAM PERL. He stated when asked whether he ;; knew PERL that he had met PERL once or twice and that he met PERL .* through JOEL BARR at BARR's hone.He could not recall the circumstances or where BARR lived. Later, he stated that he had met PERL through Q BARR when BARR cane to see him at 65 Morton Street, New York City, and brought PERL with him. He state that he recalled he was trying 1 -I to sleep at the time and that it was about 10 P.M. He stated he " § recalled that BARR and PERL had gone to school together but could 92 not remember the late that he first net PERL. He believed he was~ single at the time and he thought it was in l9hh. SARANT stated as he recalled PERL was a student and he recalled that PERL later on was at Cincinnati or Cleveland, Ohio. ' He stated that PERL lived in the apartment at 65 Morton 0 Street, New York City, after JOEL BARR left there. He advised that ~ 1 * he believed that PERL sent him money orders for the rent at 65 < Morton Street, New York City, and that is how he knew that PERL was either in Cincinnati or Cleveland, Ohio. He was sure that he -. never received any checks from PERL for the rent. ' 1 In discussing with SLRANT how he happened to turn his apartment over to JOEL BARR, BARR told him that he needed an apart- ~ ment for himself and he intimated to SARANT that he might turn it _A' over to PERL, who was studying in New York City. SARANT stated that he believed that PERL was studying aero - nautical engineeringwith anan named¥VO§§KARMAN ph.!. . .He stated that he saw PERLfive or six tines and that he . always saw him with JOEL BARR, _ r ' _ SARANT statedthat he gave upthe apartmentat 65 Morton ; _ Street, New York City, wheh he thought-he-received a note fro - WILLIAM PERL saying that he did not need it any longer. : _ On this date SARANT stated that he thought that he still had the note which PERL had sent him. He stated on this date that he had given up the apartment a year or more ago. - 32 - J - .. -7 Ll __ . , _.. .._.,. _ __i _. ,,__.92.,-.-.._..-...,...... ,_... -. , __ ,. L.,___,,_, ;_L ,___ ,_, k __ 6 Q AL 65-1661+ On theevening ofJuly l9, 1950 andthe morningO: rnjy 20 1950, a search of subject'shome at Cayuga HeightsRoad, Ithaca, v1 . York, was conducted by authority of Waiver of Search signed by SARANT on July 19, 1950and letters were locatedby Special Agent JOHND. , Y K I $ MAHONEY inthe den of subject'shouse. y ' "; 1 Under caption "65 Morton Street, Nev York City" it was pointed out to SARANT that a review of the letters showed more than a casual acquaintance with PERL. He stated that the letters were written by » PERL becauseof the fact that Mr. GARLOCK,of 65 Morton Street Reslty_ Company, hadnot wanted him to turn the apartment over to anyone else.- The bill of sale for the furniture was given for the same reason. 5I In connection with the above letters, SARANT was asked ~- whether he knew HETTY SAVIDGE, n friend of PERL's.He stated that he might have met her once, but knew nothing further concerning her. In discussing the 65 Morton Street apartment, New York City, the subject stated that as far as he could recall he was paid by money order at all times each month by JQEL BARR or WILLIAM BERL with the I exception of one time he remembered that he was paid a lump sum for _ five or six months. He stated he received this money in cash personally from either JOEL BARR or WILLIAM PERL. He could not remember when this was paid to him or any of the circumstances surrounding the transaction. He stated that PERL might have given it to him because he recalled ' seeing PERL once since leaving New York City and that was in Ithaca, New York. In trying to refresh SARANT's recollection of this trans- action, he recalled that PERL cameto see him when he lived at h22 , Eddy $treet, Ithaca, New York. He stated it was sometime between the time he bought the lot at Cayuga Road, Ithaca, New York, about April, '~ l9h7 and the time he moved from h22 Eddy Street, Ithaca, about July, l9h8. He believed that when he arrived home at about 5 P.M. one day he found WILLIAM PERL there and that PERL stayed for dinner and left in the early evening. He remembered that PERL did not have a car because SLRANT dropped him off where he was living later in the evening. As far as he could recall he drove PERL to the Cornell University Aero- nautics Building, or by the Aeronautics Building or to the place that PERL was living. He was sure that PERL was not staying atca hotel but claimed he could remember nothing more about the incident. He recalled that PERL was here for more than a day and believed it was "maybe on the order of a week". He believed that PERL was at Ithaca, .New Zork to confer with some people in the aeronautics laboratory at Cornell University on a specific assignment for the company he worked for in Cincinnati or Cleveland. He stated he did not - » ' . _? - . _ 33 - J _ »~>;;- » r we e, , tn]; ' know whet the problem was as PERL did not discuss it with him. He i 92 92 stated that PERL could have given him the lump sum in cash_at that time, but he had no definite recollection of it. He was "reasonably _ sure" that he never saw PERL after this time. In connection with the T, w apartment he remembered that he never gave the key to the 65 Morton e :7 Street, New York City apartment to anyone because BARR had a duplicate at the time he left. ' ~ SARANT denied that PERL ever lived at 65 Morton Street, New ' _York City, with him and when asked whether PERL ever had his name on I , e. 4 the mail box denied that he ever knew that PERL'sheme wason the mail ~.,_ y box. .l ~ Professor WILLIAM'¬EARS,Aeronautics Laboratory, Cornell University, Ithaca, New York, was interviewed on July 22, 1950. He recalled that he had made arrangements with WILLIAM PERL to lecture at Cornell on October l2, l9h8. He produced correspondence on this matter and further advised after checking telephonically with his - 0 wife, that PERL had stayed over night at his home on that occasion. Further, Professor SEARSadvised that WILLIAM PERL had . . 92 at his and ProfessorARTHUR KhHTROWITZ's stayed invitation at Cornell about two months one summer. He stated that this stay of PERL s had no official connection with Cornell University and that it had come about as follows. PERL was working as an assistant to VON KARMANat Columbia University and was to take his "prelims" at Columbia in the - Fall. He believed this was in l9h7.! PERL was having difficulty finding sufficient quiet and time to study so he was invited to use ~ office space and stay at Cornell. SEARS stated he had known PERL for, several years, having met him at Columbia. He could not recall where_ PERL lived in Ithaca, New York, but believed it was at some rooming house. He stated that he considered PERL one of the outstanding . young men in the country in aeronautical engineering. He stated that PERL"s field was on wing theory but new he is working on - mathematical problem of compressible flow of air, both inside and outside. . ' ' = Professor ARTHUR KANTROWITZ of Cornell University, Ithaca, 4 York, was interviewed on July 22, 1950, and he advised that he F Newto take his final exams at Columbia University in October, l9h7," wasand that PERL wasto take his "prelims" at the same time. Heyand , SEARS invited PERL to Cornell to study and as he recalled, PERL was here from about July, 19%? until about September, l9U7. KANTROWITZ .% ~- v I ; ..34 .;... ' : I a I * . g%¬;" " S ' "¬§§M " ' », <9 63 1 an 65-166k ,~ b ', stated thnt he did not knnv where QQBLlived, but believed it was ' S at one of the University dormitories, the temporary wooden wones. " n n JAMES DRISCOLL, Office of Dnnidcn inl Hall, Cornell University, advised that PERT.pnid rent on Room 101, Lyon Hall, ' ' from July 23, ]9h7 bu SupbPmbOr 15, l9h7. The records reflected . _ ' that a $5.00 room depositwas refunded-himon August 29, 19b7, ' !' _ indicating that he may have left on this date. The files further reflect that he was granted a room on the campus on the recom- mendation of Professor WILLIAM SEARS. PERLby theIn-regardname tow1LL1A§_1uTTzRPERL. PERL, of he subject stated that//,/ he never knew_ A On July 21, 1950, Special Agent JOHN D923§H0NEY located' a receipt in the house of the subject from Mr. w 92MUTTERPERL,-1516 East 120 Street, Cleveland, Ohio, dated March 2%, 1950 on the billhea '- , of the Tatay Music Shop, 1&7 west h6th Street, New York City, for n ' Spanish-guitar and accoutrements in the sum of $75.60 marked paid. Also located at the hone of the subject in a red folder marked "ALFRED'sPapers" by Special Agent JOHN D. MAHONEYon July 21, 1950, was the name Mr. W. MUTTERPERL, 1516E. 120 St. Cleveland, Ohio, hich was written in pencil on the beck of a withholding receipt addressee to the subject at 65 Morton Street, New York City for the year l9hh. ' » ./ G . » - 1 J ; 35 - ~ _ ~ ~ 4 ' . .. _ . . , .. ' 1 , .. ' . ; "' ' - _ ' ' e ...... __. A_. _ g . __ . e__;-.. J ..' -e§T~<..¢1~¢.n.m- " § W;QF_ --e. .92 ... :+.~;¢. .--_..=.92,e-_~mveer;-1==e;....:_;= I _:_ _f ~ ~ A " " " * '> r " v ~ 1 ~ ~ -~'92 -~~~ ;-is; ,i.,-_s'.i-»'1~> »-- ---~~-s-1 - ~-=- M-__._,._ {'4 __ __ - Q i s .1 r I o . !9. o ¢ . » L 65_166u ' ,AL. PFM:PEP w VII ' u ', § Hi7 _ §_ Em. Pi ?-Q71 Y -,°§;'i"-1573-W? _ 1 " During the course of this first interview on July 19, 1950, SARANT was asked if he was acquainted with or if he knew JULIUS ROSENBERG. He ad P vised that he did know JULIUS ROSENBERG and gave the following information , relative to what he believed might have been their first meeting. SARANT ~ became acquainted with JOEL BAZR when they both were employed at the United States Army Signal Corps Laboratory, Fort Monmouth, New Jersey information concerning JOEL BARR has been set forth above!. Ee and BARR became very close friends. One day BARR asked bin if he would donate blood for the sick father "i r of a friend. SAEAHT agreed to do this, and he stated that he is pretty cer- - tain that this friend of BARR was JULlUS ROSEEBERG and that he net him while he was giving this blood donaticn. SARLNT then added that it is possible that ho could have met him before since BARR and ROSEHBEEG were former classmates at City College of New York. Le was very vague as to other meetings with ROSENBERG and could not recall the dates, places, or circumstances, advising ' that they could have taken place in restaurants or at union meetings. Ho . 1- . recalled visiting tho ROSENBERG apartment on one occasion but could not fur-' nish the address of this apartment. Ho believed that ho recalled accompanying JOEL BARR to ROSENBEEG'S to attend some political meeting. H0 denied that it was a Communist Party meeting or that it had anything to do with cxpionago. He could not recall who else was present or what took place at the-meeting. he ever assisted ROSENBERG Ho positively denied this. 1 wasage had one n.. theSARANT was pointedly asked if ho at any time was employed by or if J -,- I n , I j . I 1 _. J1 .,_ , - Pg , ' e 1. . .92" ' V AL. 65 166U . > . ' a or his wife and that he had definitely had no contact with the ROSENBERGS since j A moving from New York City to Ithaca in l9b6. He added that he did not believe "A that his wife ever knew the ROSEHBERGS. H - e » During the course of the search of subject's residence on the evening ~ of July 19 end the morning of July 20, 1950 after the completion of the first ' - interview, Special Agent PAUL B. BIBLER found a Bates Telephone List Finder ' p0p up address book! in the middle drawer of the desk in the main bedroom. 1 I The following appears as the last entry under the R's - "ROSENBERG, JULIUS " , and ETHEL, 10 Monroe Street, New York 2". when interviewed concerning this I item, on July 20, 1950, SARANT could offer no reasonable explanation as to ' or why this entry should be there. He advised that the entry was in his hend -'I- writing and that he felt sure that the entry had been made while he was still " ti residing in New York City, offering as an explanation of its being there, the i fact that it might have been in connection with union business. The entry directly preceding this entry is as follows - "CfihOISTLCHER,,2l7 Linden - . Ith jljbl". SARANT was asked the reason this entry should precede the ROSBN-' BERG entry, based on his former statement that he had had no contact with the BOSEHBERGS since moving to Ithaca in l9#6. He stated that perhaps his wife had wanted to send the ROSENBERGS a Christmas card. He then changed his former _ statement to the effect that his '2-l'.'LfQ waslnot acquainted with the sossz-mnsos. Y He stated that he definitely recelled that his wife had met the ROSENBERGS ' while they were living in New York City, that he remembered a conversation between notETHELknew when ROSENBERG orwhere this and his conversationwife, LOUISE, too§;;l?ee,_ concerning _ ;, children. .He _. did*<_ - . . _ . 92 . . s» -i, , , .. '3 . . . ,0...» , ¢,. SARAH? was then questioned concerning the identity of C. ROISTACHER and where he met this person. He first stated that he met R0é§: g§ER after _ coming to Ithaca. He then stated that ho had heard of him, C -T n0ISTACHER, through B$EZX S5EDER§ when he was living in New York City and had possibly , recorded his name at that tine. SABANT'S statement as to when he met ROISTACHEB was changed after he was asked why if he met ROISTACHER nftcr coming_te Ithaca, his name should precede ROSENBERG in his index. He first offered en explanation that he often skipped spaces in the index and later filled these spaces in. :.-N, Howeverg after examining the listings on the various pages in the list finder' - and noting no instenccs of such skipping practices, he offered the possibility r. ' ~ that he knew of ROISTACHER before moving to Ithnca,_ It is to be_noted that in', ~ . 4- . ~ - av L . " I . , - |r_.. . '. K5,. .-37? . ""." -~, I ~ A r ' ' .;.1;..z&;__._ .._..;,,...:.__ !>~ _ _ _ .______7* Av;i' - __- P____ - J ,, _- ______, _,__A___,_,,__ M is»- z 92|>u.£ w_-._.:c.i..'__.m1AA:'< .. ~_'.>.m=»»i~92Q1 M s-< . 3 c if AL. 65-1661+ the first interview, SARART advised that he did not know the address of_JULIQ§. ROSENBEEG. ' SL3ANT_wns questionedfurther in this second interview concerning his knowledge of and relationship with ROSESBERG. He stated that he knew %ROSEN13l .RGhis nicknam by"JULIE", thatto the "best hisof recollectionhe had met him eight to ten times and his wife, ETHEL, four to eight times. He did not recall the nature of any of these neetings with ETHEL ROSENBERG. Ho added that he actually know JULIUS EOSENBTHG only as a casual acquaintance.- Hc then stated that perhaps he first met him at a union meeting and not as , stated previously when he donated.bleed to his father. SARANT advised that he and ROSENBERG wereboth members of the Federation of Architects, Engineers Chemists, and Technicians, CIO, and that he distinctly recalled seeing him at meetings of this union. He also advised that he recalled meeting RO£EN ' BERG in restnurdnts, he described these as casual meetings and could not remember any of the details. He could furnish no additional information concerning his one visit to the ROSENBERG apartment. - ' SARANT was questioned further concerning his meeting with ROSENBERG when ROSENBERG"propositioned" him. He stated that he had no ides of the exact date but that this meeting-nest probably took place sometime between January, 1942, and January, l9h5, As he recalled it, he and ROSEEBEEGhad met at a union meeting of the Federation of Architects, Engineers, Chemists, and Technicians earlier in the evening, then adding that perhaps they had just happened to have a chance meeting at some restaurant. They were alone and were walking someplace in ew York City'slower Best Side SARANT later stated that he is not sure whether it was on the East Side or not!. SAEANT stated that he definitely remembers walking slowly and that it was not raining He believed that, as they were walking alone, they were discussing political issues, but he does not recall what political issues, adding that he did not know ROSENBERG as n Communist Party member.'He stated that he does not row member any more of the circumstances surrounding this meeting but that he received the impression that ROSENBERG was sounding him out politically for the purpose of getting information and repented "but I did not bite". He was questioned at length concerning further details of this meeting as to _ just what was said and as to what proposition ROSENBERGmade. He advised Q that he could recall nothing further. sHe definitely stated that BOSENBERG'> . ~r 4-' 4 - 38 s J S .-: . <3I . , ' . 192 . . .1 7%-,..-..{. __ .. 1 AL. 65-1661+ . '3' I did not at this time or any other time ask him for any information for trans-1. mittal to Russia. ~ r~ . In the July 21, 1950 interview, SA£AiT advised that he once recalled. BTHEL ROSENBERGtelling him that she liked folk songs. He didn't remember' 3 whore they were when she said this. He also ricnllcd that she told him shc would like to try to sing and that she had n very shrill voice, SARANT also ~_ stated that he never particularly liked ETHEL ROSENBERG,that there was some- h thing about her that was displeesing to him. I In the July 25, 1950 interview, SAIAKT stated that he remembered that the ROSBEEEEGS had two children, but that to the best of his knowledge he never sew them, although it could have been possible that he saw one of then in his one visit to the ROSEKBERGapartment. Ho stated that he believed '_ the information regarding the children came from JOEL BARR. He advised that he never recalled seeing EHTEL ROSENBERGin a pregnant condition. - ' ' Duringthese interviews with SAEAHT, he readily identified photographs of JULIUS ROSENBERG. Hepositively denied that ROSE 3ERG was ever in the I I apartment at 65 Morton Street to his knowledge. He positively denied over _' engaging in espionage work for Rosenberg. He positively denied any contact whatsoever with ROSENBERG since moving to Ithaca in 19h5. - It will be noted that SARABT, in those interviews, was very vague and evasive in his answers to nest questions. He could not recall any exact or closely approximate dates of any meetings with RGSEXBEQG or any specific or even general details of these meetings. ~ O - '1 _,, Lb -39- 1 92 -, ~4 1 1 I we k 1 v _ i ' "'<'~_?"" "' " T * e ~ ~ Z , ._ HQ; -;1..l.1,,; A- 921 _ _ 92 t s 1 AL 65-1661+ Y p VIII . JDM:A'1 N 1g yi}1;1".1q§<§ fJss;»mI_,J-1a,, 1 "v1v;@f', :~ , ~ The following information was obtained from ALFRED SLR&NT con- cerning VIVIAN GLRSSMAN on July 20, 1950. ' ; -¢ On the evening of July 19, 1950 and the morning of July 20, 1950 a search of subject SAELNT's home at Cayuga Heights Road, Ithaca, I New York, was conducted by authority of a Waiver of Search signed by * SARANT on July 19, 1950. < ' "A box of pictures of canoe trips was located at the home of , the subject by Special Agent JOHN D. MAHONEY. Some of these photos were of a women, the subject, and JOEL_BARR. The subject stated these were taken on a canoe trip in the Fulton chain of lakes in New York State in , 195 . He statea that the woman's name was VIVIAN but claimed he did " not know her last name and that she was a friend of JOEL BARR. He h denied knowing anything about her background despite the fact that she was on the canoe trip with them for two weeks, Photographs of a canoe trip in 19a; included VIVIAN, his wife LOUISE JACQUELINE ROSS, JOEL BARR and himself. He continugd to dgny that he knew anything about VIVIAN or her background. . I " On July 21, 1950, ALFRED SARANT furnished the following 13- . formation regarding VIVIAN GLASSMAH. In discussing the canoe trips with SARANT on this date he stated that she was on the second canoe y trip with him and JOEL BARR in l9hh and that she was also on the canoe trip with BARR, subject's wife and himself in l9h5. He again stated that he did not know her last name or anything about her. He stated . that his wife, LOUISE, might know her name, as she was on the l9h5 canoe trip with them. He recalled that VIVIAN attended the musicales at his apartment at 65 Morton Street, New York City. He said he could not recall how often or'any of the details He was-shown photographs of VIVIAN GIASSMAN that were obtained from SARANT's home on July 20, 1950, and he identified her; but con- -.tinued to state that he did not know her last name. ~ On-July 22, 1950, ALFRED SARANT»volunteere the information that after discussing the receipt of rent payments for the 65 Morton Street apartment in New York City, with his wife, that he now recollected 4 that he did receive a money order from VIVIAN GL&SSMLN for the apartment, Information concerning the 65 Morton Street apartment, New York City, - is being set out elsewhere in this report.! He stated that,his wife, recalled that VIVIAN's last name was GLASSMAN, but he denied knowing anything else concerning her. _ . - hO - ~- ~ -;> __ 1 _ _,_, _, ___. ,.,....-i._ ._..».m. __ _ _. ..._..- --A._ 'A>44 ._._ > 92 -.. Y AI. 65-1661+ _ f I _ A Bates List Finder was located in the home of the subject by Special Agent PAUL R. BIBLER in a search conducted on the evening _ of July 19, 1950 and the morning of July 20, 1950 by authority of a Waiver of Search signed by the subject on July 19, 1950. In this Bates List Finder was the name GLASSMAN, 3&3 East 8th St., N. Y. 9, AL-H8658, office DI 205hO. Subject, on July 22, 1950, stated this individual was identical with VIVIAN GLASSMAN. I On July 2h, 1950, the subject stated that the only persons who forwarded money to him for payment of the rent at 65 Morton Street apartment, New York City, after he left there were JOEL BARR, WILLIAM PERL and VIVIAN GIASSMAN. He stated that he could have received the lump sum cash payment for five or six months from any of these three persons. I ' Concerning his meeting GLASSMAN, the subject stated on July 25, 1950 that she was on the second canoe trip in l9hh and that BARR must have known her several months prior to the canoe trip and that he must have met her about the time of the canoe trip. He was . uncertain. ' - -~ Subject stated that he had a vague recollection of BARR telling about meeting her at some summer resort. He denied that he _ knew where she worked but stated he vaguely remembered her being a student and studying for social work. He stated that he recalled she accompanied them on a lot of hiking trips. To the best of his knowledge she was not a member of the Communist Party and never knew of her working at the United States Signal Corps. He recalled that she lived on the east side of New York City downtown, and believed it was on _ East 8th Street. It was pointed out to him that her address was . -listed in the Bates List Finder as 3&3 East 8th Street. He believed that this was her address. He stated that as far as he could recall ' he was at her home only once and that GLASSHAN's mother and_a sister or two lived with her. He could not remember anything about the apartment or what floor it was on. In regard to his visit to . GIASSMAN's apartment, he was quite sure he was single at the time and as he recalled her family was there. SARANT, as he recalled, went there to see VIVIAN GLASSMLN because he was upset about a girl named GILDYS, 4 -u1- I r 0 92. - co 0 _ ~ s » I _ a -2.1. 6546614 -" _ f ~ ~ P"%- ,". . about this. He hover knewof GLASSMANliving on East 7th Street, or '4 at 112 East 7th Street, New York City, or at any other address. - ,» - He stated that he never knew that JOEL BARR wasmarried to_ , GLASSMAN or that they lived together. He never knew of GLLSSMAN _ @ having a Leica camera. , ' < . .. 5 . . ' 'I { . He stated that GLASSMNNnever came to Ithaca, New York, , _y to see either him or his wife. .He was not sure that he had not ' seen GLASSMAN in New York City since he had moved to Ithaca, New York. . The subject stated that he was in New York City in November, 92 l9h6 to attend e concert given by BETY SANDERSat Times Hell on East = h3rd Street, New York. He stated he wcnt.to the rnncerh nhove and he might have seen GLLSSMANat that time. _ v 92 . 1 .7 ~ 1 lE 4 92 2 0 "4. » -A . .4. _. 92 I 1 ;" .. hp ' .. 4. t _ . . I 92 ' v__ , » ' . . ' .,,. -W v~~.~~~=. »~~.- ,1 ._.. »=- ~l1I',.- .-»,...-_- ,.., ...t._.,»,;, ,». _.»--.=.~.~,.¢¢. ,, _».¢ ~. /K ___ ...,. ,.. ,,_,,. _ . , V924 A .- ».. _ as a __...__ 1--as _ . _;__._!n. ._ v- V./-1.-I '__ _¢.__4.....__.92_. ; .' . J .: /'1 AL 65-1661, JDM:h.mm ~: Ir Q . SARANT LABORATORIES . _-_-_-__.--_.------i-- - _ < The following information was obtained from AIJRED S92RANT concerning SARQNT Laboratories on July 22, 1950. . A He denied that he could remember where it was located but stated, ; , .. as he recalled, it was west of 65 Morton Street, New York City, on a cross street, and was within ten or fifteen minutes walking distance of 65 Morton ; Street, New York City. BiBR and he had the idea of renting a shop to do Y"- some work in and to use as a hobby shop. When questioned concerning this, he advised that they never used it to attempt to get Government contracts'*{ or to get any business. He denied that it was used as a cover company for A espionage work. He stated that they used it as a hobby shop. He could not ' recall when they rented the shop but remembered it was on the first floor, ~ and that he believed they had this shop between the time he was married, - -6-b5! and the time he left New York City 9-L6! for Ithaca, New York. He stated that he and BARR shared the expenses equally. do recalled that they . bought a lathe for about one hundred sixty dollars which was in the shop, and =that they had a bench with steel legs and a wooden top. He could not recall ~ where they bought the lathe or bench. -He stated that he was ouite sure he paid-for part of the lathe. As far as he could recall, they rented the shop - on a month to month basis, and they had it only for about four or five months prior to the time he left for Ithaca, New York. He was quite sure that they had no telephone at the oarant Laboratories. SARANT advised that they had printed stationery, and that BARR had had this printed at his father s_or ~ -brother's place of business, address unknown. 'He stated that both his father and brother were printers. _ In connection with the name,*§;rant Laboratories, Incorporated, the subject was questioned as to why they needed a name if it was only*§" ' hobby shop. He could furnish or give no reasonable explanation except theta , they wanted to have a name. _ - l » Likewise, he could give no explanation as to why they needed stationery He stated that BARR thought of this idea. - l . 1; ' .~~ '_ He denied trying to obtain Government or other contracts. 4' Q I L a R3 - 92 x 0 Q v I t .-,9. I 92 . . , Q , 92 .' - . F 1 K s 4 .. .'__; J _ f. r.,92 _. < a 92 ' ' ~. , ~. -' . I AL 65-1661. _ . f I 1; . ¢ I In regard to the name, Sarant Laboratories, Incorporated, subject ~ stated that B4RR apparently just let subject's name appear on the letterhead _.- e ? - . because he was a good fellow. He remembered the name, Saront Laboratories, * ,Gk - appeared in the window in gold letters. They bought the letters at a hardware §f"'r some place. _ . ., ,,:¢'_,; H . "1 name, and possibly The subject BARR's, stated and that his the wife's stationery maiden letterhead92co name,L.,J§{§g$S. tained Whenhis W " 1" questioned about why his wife's name appeared on the letterhead, he recalled;@q that they wanted a third name on the letterhead, but could give no roason_ .1 1 why. A '_ -' 4 4 - ' »; ' He denied that the Sarant Laboratories was ever incorporated or that ; they did any business. SAHANT stated that he used to go there on Sundays and _ evenings occasionally but that it did not lest long. Ho remembered working *> a little with the lathe and remembered B&RR repairing a radio. He stated that, - he did not know what happened to this laboratory after he left, and he denied ' knowing whether JOEL BARR operated it after he left. He strted he did not ~ sign any papers turning it over to anyone else. He stated that BARR might have sold it and assumes that BARR paid him for his share but could not remember. Ho thought he r called that BARR told him it was going to be taken - over by some radio repairman. _ ° ' . - _ ~ ~_ On July 25, 1950, the subject was asked whether the address of_ " Q 227 West llth Street, Now York City, was the address of the Sarant Laboratories, , and he stated that it was. - ' Subject, upon being questioned as to whether he ever visited that ' .~ address after he come to Ithaca, New York in September, 19b6, stated that there was a vory remote possibility that he might hive, but he could not remember it. . He had no recollection of ever visiting JOEL BQRR at that address. _ He dcniod operating the Snrant Laboratories after he came to Ithaca, New York and stated that he would have remembered this. SARANT stated that actually, he had very little to do with the Sarant Laboratories and that JOEL. BARR never told him what he used it for, and as far rs he knows, BARR used . ,T the shop as a hobby shop. He stated that BARR found the space at 227 host llth Street, New York City, and rented it, and that BQRR put the gold letters y -in the window in the name, Sarant Lvborntorias. Ho stited that he now recalls_ ~ that on one occnsion,'h¢ walked by the hobby shop and sow the name, Sarant 2; .Laborntories in gold leaf in the window, and JOEL BARR told himjthat he BAHR!_ i . . _ ~ ,. . . ~ a . ' 92 .."- . I ~ 1+1} '.- . 0 4, ~ ' . ;. - . , . ' __ . . . . ' . .- ~ , . -* I _ ,_,,______._<.»__,...l___.._-; _...... ¢____.__ __H ~ > ~--»~- --~ ~-~$ **" .~'- 4 0 .,, . . 4h~ - ema If 0 ~ ' _. . 92 ._s_ .;¢ AL as-1661, _ .hed put the name in the window. _ . SARANT stated that he does not recall that he or BJHR paid the rent _ » by check, but that it was always paid with cash, and he could not recall the - ~y amount of the rent. _SJRANT denied that he opened a checking account in the _ .§ name of the oarant Laboratories, and if there were One, it was opened without his knowledge or consent. , . » A copy of the letterhead of the Sarant Laboratories it should be ; noted that the letterhead did not contain the word incorporated! was obtained ' irm SARANT. This letterhead contained the following information: SARANT LABORATORIES 227 West llth Street Now York h, Haw York l " ' A. E2'SAR1NT 2 A Electron Beam Recording L. J. ROSS Optical Communication = Projection in Depth HESE1RCH IN APPLIED SCIENCE -Q. l O 1 1 »_ '_ .v _ . . ->§ ¢_I> . !+§o- " ~ i 1 1 . . v~ . -. z, . '1 " . ,, - ' ' m e '5 é _ ct e oi V T? 1 ¥ , .- . r #1 I3- - ..." F _:". -' AL 65-166a ' MB F - . .: ' _ X ' Q. 1 aye: mm HELENE ELITCHEE} if 44 v . _ . v . ' ,, t . ¢, "7-21-50' ' Ithaca, N.Y. "I am Alfred Sarant and I give this statement freely and voluntarily to Peter F. Maxson and John D. Mahoney knowing them to be Special Agents of.,.. '.. 1. .. the Federal Bureau of Ihvestigation. No threats or promises have been madehii to me to induce me to give this statement. I have been advised of my rights, ; that I do not need to make a statement and any statement I make can be used ' in a court of law against me. I know I em entitled to engage an attorney. 92. --. L H; "On this date I have been shown a photo of a man identified to me as Max Elitcher, with a number 36068 on the photo. I have never seen this man, I do not recognize the picture nor have I heard the name. I have signed the back of this photo. I have been shown a woman identified to me as_§eleng Steinberg Elitcher. I am positive I have never seen her, I have never heeid_ the name Helene Elitcner. I have signed my name on the reverse side of the photo. These two individuals have never been in my apartment while I was~ there. , I was never with them anywhere. ._ Y "I have read this one pege statement, I understand it, ad.it is i 92 true. A _ /S/ Alfred Serent . ' . v 7-21-50 "John D. Mahoney, Sp. Agt - FBI Peter F. Maxson, S.A., F.B.I." ~ ' _ »_ The searches of subjectis residence failed to locate any material ~_ identifiable with the Elitchers. ' . I < i 2* *1 1 »~ 92 - E .. h '[,- , L {I ~ ' . . _ ' ' _ .._ ' - "92 .~_ . . . __ ._.;r~f f 4x v. .1 ~» ~. .. ' .-z-'1?!» . RF ?! e I~ w ' ~.~ ~ ~ --.. »-_92-- ¢ .. N . i s""" _".*"-'T'"?*- ~'*'='1w'.92 ..=*'~"= "a""~- ,*x:ir.".'- 92 » /., . 2 1 Y0 AL 65 166h » us ~ . x1 gqonwom AND HELEIF s0BELL I 92 '"7 22~5O . Ithsca, N.Y. 6:bOPm- "I am Alfred Sarant and I give this statement freel y and I vo untarily t P0 etor F. Mnxson - ' and John D. ahoney_knowing them to be Special Agents of "the FBI. No threats . or promises . c h. ave ~ bc 'esn made to me to lnduce me to make E1 stptemont .. and I know I . 0 d no t h ave to make a statement. I know nd have be QX1 advised that any statement I make I. 3 can be used . in . w court of law against me. I know and have been advised that I am entitled to consult and engago.an at -v , torney. A ' n To the best of my knowludgo and recollection I do not know and have never met Morton Sobcll or hfn Ia ml "f* c Halon -» Sobell * any place or through anyone. To the best of my knowledge _v. and rccollzction - ~ I - never knew any one by the name of Sobell. ' /S/ Alfred Sarant ~ V "I have road this one page, I understand it sud it is true. /S/ Alfred Sarant @ itnesses I ' John D. Mahoney, Sp. Agent - FBI Peter F. Maxson, SA; FBI" The searches of subject's residcnce failed to locate any material identifiable with the Sobolls. - l . . -4~3 J I x yd _ v - . _¢ . "2 S -1~"* "'* ' 11" <"-1 -* "'" "'- _ '1». == Ir"i '~ ,. .' =;1 4" 92 ¢""":" -1.~" *"l=""~¢'* @' "WP "'::z 1*'.,=.~ "'- ':."$ < ~ ¥2 -"'..?*"~" '¥=¢ -1'*'F #:1" ~ T 1:"'=" . " . Q n .1 ; - . o AL. 65-1661+ - _» » PFM:PEP , A ' ' XII A - ¥'iIQ1é92ELin P.¢13IF§f¬fD0R0VI¢H Wis! o * "' "7 W" "*" " @ }92 ;; if J Subject denied cvor knowing or hearing of the $IDOBD?ICH$. Hestated that such a last name wouldcertainly have stood. out in his mind. _ ~ 4 The sovrches of subject'srosidonca failed to locate any materia1_- ;§*}» identifiable with the SIDGROVICHS. . 92 F - 1' ¢ O _ 9 I: , | ,4 .. - 3+8 - 1 " 1 1 ; - ¢ 4 3 1f'. } ~ . J, _ __v ,_;r - . __-'._ V '_ -.' '" v~:92. '.-- '. . -¢.-~~ _,_,,.__ - . -=1 '92 .'~'L '» ~- "Y P A »--.4. ~»- . =. .._;-, ~- -_ -~§.¢-~-_- -'- = ,.;_ -- o. WW -rm»' ,_' ~=-< _ _:1£ ,_;_ . ». ,.< = . _ - -n -- . 1 . 3'6 ' 5 , :3 J Q ,, -'. _. . ' 1 . .-1' ... lb 2 - A ~ 8 92 O92 AL. 65-1661* 4 - - PFM:PEP 1 XIII ' . lo. Y 1 2 pgtvxn xqwp mm; ¢.sm;1c»m A ;, 1 _ Subject positively denied ever knowing either DAVID or BUQ §§¥BH: ' .GLASS, and he failed to identify photographs of the GEEENGLASSES as persons 2 ever known by him. He stated that the only time he ever heard of DAVID GREEN; 92" GLASS was in connection with his recent arrest. _ - ¢ » " I 3,... A " The searchcs of subject's residence failed to locate any material *tl:;"7 - identifiable with GREEHGLASS. . " x . i r F » 92 1% 0 w ~ 1 ~ x v L v _ .- 1 i I 5 » - - hf! ..- » - ' .. . 4 92 - 2 u - - - " ." ' Q . . ea ¢ v , a 3 v, »' , N J ' - _ x 1. . I, J _ .2 92 . Ix _ _-. _.I | ". . AL.65-1661+ , . A , ' 1=m=1=m g . XIV . ~ g . O;.- &*92;.~;=~Y cow ~ " -. 92' . I Subject positively denied ovor knowing GOLD and stated that tho I v only time he over heard of him was in connection with the newspaper publicity attendant with his arrest; Ho failed to identify a photograph of GOLD as a_, person ever known to him. ' .~ < . I , The soarchosof subject'sresidence failed to locate any materia1_ 1 identifiable with GOLD. ~ ' _§~ ' ,, , , W ~ ¢ 1 ~. G m Y r I .~ s ~ » . u i _ 5Q _ K 1 | 1 a .I . . _ W A _ .-Q .» . .'_ - - '- Q v- E;-eK1-"" -l~."' ~ '/*ra.~',,» z---'~:»-". =-'M .;»~-..- .: 5*".-' "» tr , 4» _,_ ,7 - .- -1% .'.- ,_b,,92&A_A'Iv> V 159? . __'<;" 1-N». -- ~. .Z'a¬»~,<-1 ~..>-,_,_~._' ,1, __A -Y, - ,.*:.a§§ _ ' ~_ 1 "~. "" ._ "> ...wu~,"=»,, ._ '~-1,, 1 _.r" _ 4 - 6 ' S Q K 4 . ,5, . .1 . AL 65-1661» . PRB:A'l N. . '.. . II!?fEBVIE?f§-.YZITH_*? 3S.-. ' he l . v LOUISE JACQUELINEsnmmr was interviewed on July 21, 22, 26 and: ,2 , 23, 1950, by Special Agents PETER G. ROTH and PAUL R. BIBLER. Throughout , these interviews, she stated that she had no knowledge of the activities . of JULIUS ROSENBERG anddid not believe that her husband had assisted ~ ~ ; _ ROSENBERG anyin espionage activity. She made the statement her husband .;: J71 ' had told her that there was nothing to worry about and that it would only - ~,[* be a matter of time until the FBI Agents were convinced that he had not 5 f ' ~5~ /engaged in espionage. She further stated that her father, VICTORK. D,._f ROSS, an attorney at Ithaca, New York, had discussed the matter with her .'..~ and had told her to answer questions fully. However, her expressed ' ' recollectionof the events prior to her departure from New York in l9h6 ~' was very incomplete in many instances. Information obtained during these interviews appears below under the heading of the individual, location . or activity to which it pertains. .. Q R . _ ~ 1 JULIUS ROSENBERQ: ' - ~ g Mrs. SARANT stated that she recalled meeting JULIUS ROSENBERG on one occasion. She stated that she was unable to fix the date of this 1 occasion, but that it necessarily must have been prior to her departure ,¢ from New York City in September, l9hG. She stated that she did not know ' ~ where the meeting took place, but believed it may have been in a restaurant..»7 She recalled that her husband, ALFRED SARANT, and Mrs. JULIUS ROSENBERG '»,, were present. She discussed children with Mrs. ROSENBERG. She stated it-__ was her recollection that Mrs. ROSENBERGhad one child at that time, X 5 92 who was ill. She advised she was unable to furnish a description of _-1; ' 7 ETHEL ROSENBERG,other thanthat shewas short,rather heavyand had JN " "Y dark hair. She stated her recollection of JULIUS ROSENBERG was that he 1 was pleasant and wore_glasses. She identified a picture of JULIUS , _ ROSENBERG. wasShe not shown aphotograph ofETHEL ROSENBERG.- , * 1 She stated she did not recall if anyone else was present at this meeting and did not recall that any particular topic was discussed I other than the topic of children. when she was asked why JULIUS ROSENBERG's address appeared in a Bates List Finder found in a drawer in a desk in ' W . ~ her bedroom, she stated that she was unable to explain. She stated thati , - . . both she and her husband used this Bates List Finder and used_it more P ; prior to leaving NewYork thansince. Shedenied anyknowledge ';;of . |;; _ V ROSSNBERG'sespionage activities and denied that she had assisted-him I 3 " in any way and denied that she had any reason to believe that her husbamd;;§ had assisted ROSENBERG. Sheemphatically denied that ROSENBERGhad evert 1} - " dsited them in Ithaca, New York, or that they had received any communion-¢¢., _; tion from him. - i , _ " "» -~* . . :~ <47 ... _. _ _ .,.,.,,, _... < .>92 , , ch fl 1. Z 1 .....: '. . 2 , 7 . , __ 1 . .*_~ '~"4 92~,1.-_ ..~._. r_ .» " Th ' ,,_ 0. l - 7. V s -_ - . ' I ' I 5 .._. .1 AL as-1561» _ ' 1 T ' , ..-- !. ., . =_ _ .,:.._ - {'; ~,"?~.?. ' JOEL BARR: " "~ ~~ . i-yv '» . ..-1* .1 -1, Mrs. SARAHT advised that her acquaintance with JOELcBLRB~ l;~ J ;*¢ . ¢ 1'-' datéi from about the same time as her acquaintance with ALFRED SARANT, . - whom she met early in l9h5. She advised that she sew JOEL BARR often ;,,, _ from early l9h5 until September, l9H6; that he was in their apartment '* @*'9 at 65 Morton Street on many occasions, both alone and at social gatherings, 1; _ pl . and that she and her husband eccompuhied JOEL BARR and VIVIAH_GL@S$M4§ .5 *,' i on a canoe trip in theihdiron ecks in the Fall or late Summer of l9h5.~ ~ 1' ¢~¢/ She i entifiei Q photogreeh of JOEL BARR. 4 . _4't She stated she did not know BARR's place of employment while , "4 she knew him in New York, but knew that he was an engineer by professionvi » She did not know his exact sidress, although she believed that he lived . I with his mother and sister, IRIS. She advised that JOEL BARR and her ~' '¥e¢< K ~ v husband, ALFRED SARLNT, were very good friends, and that they had s common ~j 4I interest in music, although she stated she did not know if_§§RR.played any ~. type of musical instrument. 3 ~ " i'}'I_-..+"'l.i.,S - . *' ~ ff," She stetei it was quite probable that JOEL 8&9? was or had been" t n member of the Communist Party,-since she herself had been a Party member f ' in ' - 19h! , and 19%;, _ r _ and _ that . 1 sec ._ ~ oclicvcO _ .' _ _,- she riscusrcd 1- J . issues, ' _ l_ such as == _ - 92'> ' H. iscriminetion, . . Ircely M i vitl . X HARP _ 4 one did l not flat .u. him ,. in conflict . with _ ~ her She stated, however, she had no hnoaleuge as to whether or not he A ectuelly was e member of the Greenwich Village Branch of the Communist . Party or if he an her husband had been members of th e sate branch of _' the Communist Party. She steted that she was a member of the Greenwich. l ' Village Branch for a short time, but did not know the names of other ~>. members. She elvised she eii not know if EAHR was acquainted with JUQ;Q,- ~ v ROSENBERG, but was quite certain that she had never had any reason to 1 , ~ believe that BARR was working for or with ROSENBERG on any espionage . activities. - - ' v . ' She stetei she did not recall if her hushani hoe ever developed any photographs for JOEL BARR and that while she knew BARR had e cemere,f -A92 she did not know what type of camera he had. Mrs. SARAH? uivised she» -;' ¢ believes that BARR visitei her and her husband at Ithaca, New York, '" I ' She stated she is unable to fix the-Gate of this visit, enl does not , recall that there was any particular reason for the visit. She stete she-L, . Q aia recall that JOEL 3ARR s visit to Ithaca must have been'nfter Dccembcr;.3t " - l9U§, because she is certain them he saw her son, JEREMY, who was born '~ ' . in December, 19h6. ' _ . 4 - - ~ ~ ' H '~ »f '- ¬-} . _ Q _ '-- A i - J; _,. ¢ a . . .. 1 1.4 _ a Kr 92' _- i. _ 5 O - I ' . L. . ' 5 - 1 d 9 . I . .. _ -/ H, ~ ~> ..,:: m Ir ~ >, - I: 1 ,; .:"_'A .J~~ >'. .-3f_; tg ; I - I - : . ' _ I i v 1, _ .> Q I ' A .. , >3 _ ~ -, -¢ v ..-,'.- i -,~ _ Q".A ;!___H;:7;b,. : '- ' ->. ,. -.._ ,,§~* *g_.<.. _ : 92' ~ ; I . Kt.I *2 1'_"_,_' 5. AL 65-1661+_ . ' ~ » - 4 1.-' '3 : »_ . »_ |, ,. 2 2 '.,. Europe sometimein l9h8. She stated that she did not'know-exactly She advisedit is her understanding thatJOEL BARRwent to ,§ ~h»¥+»' ~ w r92ff.; " ' where he is in Europe, but believes she heard that he was in Sweden, ; ~r92- .',' 1'- {_.: _ studyingmusic. Shestated shehad a rather indefinite recollection . , l;.;¬3;%1;. -1 ~ ,,_' -,--.,92-<1 /.~__.M, . ;_A ,, e , . . that BARRtelephoned themin Ithaca and told them he was going to 4 " 4 Europe. She said she was unable to remember any further details con-, ''s 0 .I~- cerning this telephone call. - » 7* _..._ K "tr ~ ' w ,_ -- _, ~ _* :3}§."_- .§'~_4=~". ' 7 *5»_ <~ rt;4 , - .;92 r 4»;0 .1 '._ A - .14__»V .- .; 'BARR and - WILLIAM She advised PERLwerewet acquainted,shebelieved and itthatquite she Possible is quite certainthat .1021} !.92-;- sgk ~21 V Q ,u>» 0» 1 that JOEL BARR and VIVIAN GIASSMANare well acquainted, since they ..- .- were intimate friends prior to l9h5 and saw each other to some extent l- w:'*.',_;1&».. ~. ~.x- »;.- l after 191+5. » , ~ 1 _ <"5 "1'_ ; ,.P. 2.~ .._ $4! . . '¢"i~»-;+: ha ~_'1V '37. ' -~-.<_ '< I She advised she understood that one of JOEL BARR's parental I. - 1 1* '.# =.~ p was Russian and that she recalled that at one time JOEL BARRand her _ .-92'7"-_1_.;_ n," Vv husband, ALFRED SARANT, studied Russian together, but that she could~~ :-¢~ ' ..» 3 "" ' zaidcf ; 2* -Q recall nothing concerning BARR'sattitude toward the Russian govern- Q _ e ' .. ment, which would indicate to her that he would be engaged in espionage ' 1~Ij'. {,1 . --1'. * _; ~ q ._-Q -~ a1 sf - _ !. . J " 5*?/92R1?' 3N,'L,§§_e1¬°R'¥9!lsTR¥3ET1e§"5" °I'1 Y= - ' D ~-0_ " YORK -~ Mrs. smnwr statedthat whenshe first met ALFREDSARANT, early" z ~ I in 19b5, he resided in an apartment on the sixth floor of 65 Morton _j l _ .Street, New York City, and she resided at 60 Morton Street. After r *~ l .;1 ~ - 1 Q they were married in July, 19b5, she moved to his apartment at 65 ~*§ , .. Morton Street. They remained in this apartment until September l3, " Jr V 92' l9h6. She advised she recalled clearly that they left the apartment S: 0 ' on September 13, l9h6 and that they were driven to her parents home, I n22 EddyStreet, Ithaca, New York,by Emcnymr rsom, who isxurnm 4 SARANT's sister.She stated that during the time she resided at this apartment, it was furnished as follows: ' T1 ' I _ . _ j.., _.§"_ . In the living room there wasa couch, a record cabinet, one :_~ ,».g_ _' large chair, soe small tables, a maple chair, a maple coffee table,§ _which later was broken, a rug, and one lamp. She advised all of this 1 0. 1 T I. furniture was moved to Ithaca with the.exception of the coffee table ' P . , and possibly the floor lamp. I .| I _ ti T ' - .3; '."'- s 5. < , .i .~ . . _ In the kitchen wasa table, two chairs, refrigerator and3¥» 2? ~.~?-'x- r *'- P '- *"'»" : * re, -"> _- ».,.'- _.', ~ H; '! z- " ;~ stove.'advised She thatthe tableand chairswere movedto Ithacar ; fg p i ~ *.- 1. e. -* - ._v,,____.-,' I j 3' ., _ .- .' ;-. ';'.: ";-~.'.;~ ~ 1' ' 3 "- L2. vi.-1"? v 92 . 3'1 - - ' ,;_,;@=;= _ is _ _,. .;. _.sf». . ..-_ _, _.J1 '., _.v,.. '~' A ".. A92:.l@ 92 ._ ,92: '- ___< . ~"g§»=>.:-.6 ' , 92_> , ~ e ,, .»~,.*~ v. . Q » 4* 1, 92 n A J ._~_ jg ' AL 55-1663 - ' 4 :*?T1@; V. - . ,'. _ * . - ' 92- ~,'_.-f 92 }x§, . 1 , " She stated the bedroom contained one bed and two small » . jfw '?;@;n; '1 chests. She advised that when they moved to Ithaca, they left only ' :5 ,U 4'v- 0 .-'. the ~box springs from the bed, since it was not in good conditiong; .~_~. _L" :-_ , §,_ _ . .,-o~; a . 4* 4, .,, , I AL I. .- ! 1. ,r . . "With regard to the occupancy of the apartment after she . j 'sr _ moved to Ithaca, she stated that she was aware of the fact that they ,4; ;, v I 5 - had been paying the rent on this apartment until recently, although .' " she did not know the exact date was January, 1950. She stated she- ,_ "1 1 ".'- .s':|? did notrecall definitely what arrangementswere madeat the time ' ; . van_.,;?"..1.' .-H .l.92._ . ~,~4--924 they left the apartment, but believed there was some thoughtthey -/ '~§h"' 7 ' 1 '1- might return to the apartment sometime in the future and that it was 1 ¥ 4 d ~} to be occupied by friends while they were gone. She stated she con- ml? F o sidered this arrangement quite natural, since apartments were hard to;lp get in New YorkCity at that time and shefelt she and ALFREDwere .{§;. ,;§§;Q- fje r = more than glad to continue to pay the rent as long as someoneelse f,§yf;i; ;§g§¢> F . _.'J1-_ h__ ..wanted to use the apartment. She stated that to the best of her ="*rH%;P;g'55.n- .;, recollectionrent on this the apartment money all orders camewhich from they wILLIAM,PERL, received in with payment the exception of the § 3'I§*7"@i yf .. .~92l ., r of one money order which was received within the first year after they '_.qM vacated the apartment, from VIVIAN_GlASSMAN. Sheadvised that although-W. f ,k 2 she believed WILLIAM PERLsent money orders for payment of the rent ongf - > the apartment, for nearly four years after they left, she did not '; ' -clearly recall if they gave him the key at the time they left the -Z;_~ 92 1 apartment. She further stated she had never asked anyone who was ;%; 3 using the apartment in their absence, since it was a matter of no V. concern to her. . , ~. r "£1 . * 0 She advised that she had not visited the apartment at 65 S?» Morton Street since September 13, l9h6. She stated she was unable to .¢Y'> '1 » explain why VIVIAN GLASSMAH would have paid one month's renton the x apartment, since it was her recollection that VIVIAN GLASSMAN lived W with her mother in New York City. She stated that if this apartment f 92 was used for any illegal purpose after September 13, l9h6, it was; *1 l iwithout her knowledge and_her husband's knowledge; 5- K She further said she did not recall who advised them to dis- ft ~ : ontinue payingthe renton this apartment. Shestated thatas far as Er 1 she knew, no one had ever paid them a lump sum for several months ¢'_ 1 92 . rent ~n the apartment.' ' " I V Z 92» ' _ She stated that she did not recall exactly whenBILL_PERLQ? ....¢ _ t _started to occupy the apartment and when she was shown letters from A v PERL addressed to Mr. and Mrs. ALFRED SARLNT reflecting that PERL was "~ ~* . .*| ..-<1 ,-.-, . ,»1:' , r in the apartment asearly as September, 1956,and further reflecting #§ §3;; 1 ? that PERLhad sent thema bill of 5.-11¢for certain items of furniture, "~ x z . _ I .;- ., ..~ , .30» ,» .1- r .. . R _,_ .__. .7 ._.__ , , . , _ 1.,.._ _-.4/ __T 1 Q - Y '._r _ > ..¢-._,,§, .- 492 ._ .- -, D 4 - .. 51;. .. . .;.~-1'~~-K 1 . . .. - »--¢.*»- - * c- ' 1 3 "1 .. _<'_ she ' . -' stated. . she had. no. 'recollection - ' concerningthese lettersi. ~' Y _ , A » - ,_.J :-'-~~,s§2{:§§$}¥f33*§?i; _5.- m » '- . , ' - - . 1_¢rw?ie£*r _. ' ' "1: t 1 ; . t v I x. __: ~. I 41- u AL65-1661; c i . "1 '-" . 2.5V $ ~ 1% 31$. 5 v .1-._-_--i___-QWILLIAMPERL: . - - .- r . _ . i ~ Mrs. SARANT stated that she net WILLIAM PERL during her residence at 65 Morton Street, New York City. She did not know him by the name of ' WILLIAM MUTTERPERL. She advised her recollection of PERL was that he was ,: 1 an infrequent visitor and appeared to be just arriving from or going i ~. someplace. She stated she did not know where his parents lived or 92,~.. f . -3.'." what his occupation was. She stated that she believed he was undoubted1y_ , t * ~ acquainted with JOEL BARR, but had no reason to believe that he was '.92! 92 s acquainted with JULIUS ROSENBERG.I ' She identified a photograph of WILLIAM PERL. < " . '1 v Mrs. SARANTadvised that she did not know what brought WILLIAM ._ 1 PERL and her husband together, as she did not recall that PERL was particularly interested in music as were most of the people whom they entertained in their apartment. She stated that she had no reason to 4 believe that WILLIAM PERL was e guitar player and had no knowledge con cerning the bill er sale which was found among her husband'seffects. 4 reflecting that WILLIAM PERL had purchased a guitar and appurtenances from the Tatay Music Store in New York City. . y She stated that she was unacquainted with any girlfriend of v PERL's namedHETTIISRVIDGE. She stated that PERL visited them once 4» in Ithaca, New York, during the time they resided at R22 Eddy Street." 1 She believed this was in l9h7 and that PERL was in Ithaca on some sort g 4- of business and just dropped in to say hello to then. She stated she ! '1 does not know where PERL is at the present time, although she recalls r .~ that some of the money orders they received from PERL came from Ohio, 1 either Cincinnati or Cleveland. .1 She stated she was never very well acquainted with WILLIAM , '-_./ ~ s PERL and knew nothing concerning his activities and had no reason to 2 believe that he was ever engaged in furnishing information to JULIUS ROSENBERG. _ , 1-1 - SARANT LABORATORIES: Mrs. SARANT advisedthat about the time she was married, her husband and JOEL BARR set up what they called the Sarant Laboratories, - A . ' /.i which was located somewhere in Greenwich Village within easy walking ' . distance of 65 Morton Street. She said that it was either in the 4 basement er on the ground floor of n building anl had n big glass , -, window somewhat_like u store window. She stated she did not recall 3 the address. She advised that the space consistel of only one room -. 4 . , with the privilege of using a nearby restroom. In the room she ._' s 1" » :~ t :_,-. -55- ~. *5. __,,"-9-W-"Q~ . ' _'-' " _,_»1r- " ~. * PD?-n - .v 1*»; ;} 92l1 oll" .;, . '5 ~'~ aw xv ~ .|1;<'. ' "" -" ~< .. " ***',_ = -; _ _ _ I _ ' vb 92-~_.c._.'-....._. ,.92_ .4 .. . . mt A a§%WsF @awwww%_92 3 1., ~. ,, .-A $7e%~@-w ~'- v< i.,. » ~ T»ew si - L».»»~.~+w,-w¢sm~.-ms»see»m,s~-l~. » : sim- " " y p . jig; ' 6 :51 J . 'v~" .;.T' ~ . .» 1!AI x £4 AL 65-1661+ -. 4 ,- A . . ~ sq J jg§?I.i_i.8 _, < it _ :; > --'_ V _. recalls s work bench with what she described as common tools, such as =f * 1 1 . xi r ~_. -_ . " 92 1"-I.!-A hammers, saws and chisels, a drill press and a piece of electrical _f, ..» ,3 " 1, l-=»-:7--' .@ equipment called an oscillograph. l r-;'_ tr M s. this latter piece of equipment was ,_ -,_ ~ A; f-..5. , : .92-_ ..,:_.*:*.~ She stated the reason she recalls 7 _Cf :5 her that JOEL BARR demonstrated it to - 1 I $r_ *' .3 l "5 w W. one day and she remembers_watching the "wiggly line flashing back fl " c .92».._ n."1 andforth across the screen. She advised that the Sarant Laboratories it was merely a place for her husband and JOEL BARR to "putter". She j s b 1|___"92: .'§/¢__ 92~ .1 -w W stated they all had a lot of fun drawing up the letterhead which cost . v - .:»n§»- re-m,1~ *. them nothing, since it was printed by JOEL BARR s father or brother, _5"1 v 1, _ who had a printing business, but that this labroatory brought in no | J », -3.1:1 cash income as far as she knows, and the letterhead was not used. She Y '1 ._| stated that her name, L. J. ROSS, was listed on the letterheard as a _4. .3 more or less of a "little joke". _ y! ?.._ " > * She advised she did not know what her husband and JOEL BARR 1 92" ' .~ -/922%_¬ intended to develop in this laboratory and does not believe they spent, ' 1 ' ,9.» .1! ~ very much time there. She further stated she did not recall what . w 1 _ .13., . r-, I ,_[i ._, . is_92 5' happened to the laboratory when they left New York City or if her ' - J , |_¢ ~ .. :1 .»,. _-T. §A husband was ever paid for his share of tho equipment in the laboratory. j :. c. 1 ' =1 .1 ~~~.;< .&"''._.Q She stated that matters of money had never been of any concern ."r<"7. to her and her husband, and that they were not practical and systematic f_ about such things. . ' . f x . .7. Q - .-.. 1 _. '§ 21.45 she , v. _.._$._!.'. "~ She stated that outside of herself, her husband and JOEL BARR, we '=..§F and ,.~ °v is 3. - recalled " ~&,;92 F3 she only one person who had ever visited the Sarant Laboratories L . 92. § » I W-at -4' this wasa close friend of hers named JANEKEPARGQZEGICHINSON,'who- - - ¢ , T!-*3 some plaster . 92 . . _.; recalled as having once spent an afternoon in the laboratory doing : .. *1 of paris modelling. She stated that this woman is interested _. ._ 13* in sculpture. _ m_ A __,-.-. .'1 H i ..*$ . VIVIAN GIASSMAN: r . _ , _ . 4 0 Us ~3s $N3 and ~ z»'._.§ ~_,; and f . ».<-5 .».' ' did. Mrs. SABANT readily identified a photograph of VIVIAN GLASSMAN *1 stated that this individual had once been JOEL BARR's "girlfriend" hadhad accompanied BARR and the SARANTS on a canoe trip in l9h5. She ; stated that even though she had seen VIVIAN GLASSMAN quite often, she ' hadnot consider her to be a particularly close friend, and that she 8I not seen her since she left New York in l9h6. She advised GLASSMAN .andvisited Ithaca on only one occasion to the best of her knowledge P 1~ this was in the fall of l9h5 at the conclusion of the canoe trip. Sheadvised it was her recollection that JOEL BARR and VIVIAN GLASSMAN ~" "broke up" sometime in l9h6. She stated she believed VIVIAN GLASSMAN I '_;~_4 '~' 92 92*.§'__> . -''_~. ~..,'§;, _'_ - e -.. 92 ' . d. " f 0 ~ - ,5" ' ' 3 -§.~- 0L -. 1" ' » - ., . *1 .. _'u__- . . -,,._ ,_;-4:* 'a~--" ~ I T . 4. 1 - p ..~': T -"-,." ;_; ~: » ff} it AL 65-1661» _ . _ -';. __'' '* - >* - ,"* 1; 1 She stated she hadno reasonto believe that {lying §;4§$MgQ -pr 1 F '%§§ s was acquainted with JULIUS ROSENBERG. - AK. M K w Q.' _. - 1 2 , . _ Mrsl SARAHTsaid that VIVIAN GLnSSMANwasa social worker; but f p e that she did not know by whom shewas employed. _ _ ~ .f- 3 _ PHOTQGRAPXIIC E!§P_ER_I§IT;{Cl?§:S ' ' ___ia , _ '_ J Mrs; SARANTstated that she had no particular photographic §§; k, experience, although she had helped her husband develop films on I ~ » . occasion. She stated at the time of their marriage, her husband had i 5 only one camera as far as she knew, which is the same "Bee Bee" camera ,_ , »; which he has at the present time. She advised her husband had other = ' -c_f photographic equipmentwhile they lived in the apartment at 65 Morton ' 1;, Street, whichshe describedas follows: _ é n 1:.92 * V The developer , chemicals and trays were kept in the kitchen. _ , ~" ;> The enlarger was on a_shelf in the closet. » , ~' There was a tripod for the camera. She did not recall where - it was kept. 1 » i 1 ' She stated they had some floodlights which they first had on ~ stands similar to music stands, but which were later removed from the _stands and clipped in various places about the apartment to be used" c as regular lights. She advised that some of_the lights which are in M ' use in her homein Ithaca today are these samefloodlights. She stated - K W q she did not remember that her husband and JUEL BLRR spent any particular t . amount of time developing pictures and does not recall them ever making f any document photographs. w ' ' l r~ ~. She stated she did not believe her husband had ever owned a _ 1 Lieca camera and further she probably would not recognize a Lieca camera . _ , if she saw one. < . 1 ~ iMAX ELITCHER: 1 Mrs. SARLNT stated that she had never known anyone by this name and stated that she did not recognize the photographsof MA§,and HELENE ELITCHER which were exhibited to her. ' ' t . _-_...______.__-.MICK. -EL SIDOROVICH: f -J. . 1". Mrs. SLRANTadvised that she did not know MICHAEL SIDOROVIQ§_ : W or ANNE SIDOROVICH. A photograph of MICHAEL SIDQROVICH was shown to _ ess her and she stated that she did not believe she had ever met this ~}i c s -92_; tc "db: imUvhmaL , - bf H ' >- .. 1 = ; 1 c 1 - 57 - c ;~:_ . H ~ ~ _.¢ - . _ . . -,»_» .» . ,92* s~..,~ . " »'_'r~." » "'- '4f i:T< .3. $:>¢§A"'92~'."m .-"1"->"-1* -we -_ - _. 'c . * »..¢ ,'e<§~=-.-wt.-~,<""'»,-ta_ , =.»~ _ haa. ' ,m~ 4-1;"-?» _¢-5}-Z,:. I I _ _~92 . '-t;-.-;. ,*1;'§§"- "£15.:-p;,$ . '6-as s...." ,r ?* 5- _ --.-~.=.. ' '-, W - be % 9 Q A AL 65-1661» . " - Ip!.'-1VID_Landeasmzc-L, ssp: ms; t " » "H V Mrs. SARANT advised that she had never known or heard of DAVID and RUTH GREENGL$SSand failed to identify photographs of these ' individuals. i i . 0 _- - 1 gxxsaiz sou!: » 7 - I ~ . --i . XI ¢ I ¢. 4 '/rs. S"".B .NTstated that she did not mow HARRYGOLD, andwhen _ _ v. shown the photograph of him, stated she did not recall ever having seen . it in the newspapers, and that she had never met this individual. A MORTON SOBEQE: ' ~ - . Mrs. SARANT stated that she does not know MORTON SOBELL.. She was hot shown a photograph of MORTON SOBELL. - FWLPS T<>¥@RI Mrs. SARAUTwas asked to furnish information concerning_all Septemberof thevisits 13, l9h6. which Sheshe furnishedandher husband them hadas follows: madeto Net York _ Citysince ' - ¢§- If ~- .1. zlboutMarch, 19I+7,she and.-*.I.1.=*12E':r> J1arm~1Y,an-. and S1 »3r .NT_. Mrs._VICTOR1ROSS drove to New York in the ROSS automobile. This was for a visit with fri nds and relatives and she believed they stayed with MURI$LARTHQEQBOUDIN, and Gay Street,New 9 XorkCity. 2. She stated she had made one trip to New York City alone - sometime after the March, 19b7, trip, but she could not recall the exact date. The purpose of this trip was to attend the marriage of ELECTRA andJOEIFURYSON. She stated she probably stayed with the BOUDINS at this time. . . . v _ _-0 ._ " i In February, 19>+9, shewent toNew YorkCity aloneto attend the funeral of her grandfather BRANDT. h. She and herhusband andthe childrenwent toNew YorkCity in the fall of l9h9, probably November, toattend a birthday party for her husband'sfather, NONDA GEORGE SAR NT, whoresides at Baldwin, Plow! York. '' ' - 1.- . i , r H ~' "<=-'='B;-r: _.4 Vwrg, 11.; ,- 4=--W~ . * ,~,-,.»;1~..,1 r =.--,-.~. .-_.. ,___, = , p V pp e ." iIf. .-»3... ; ... ,3,3 _ . __ , V I i U 4 x- ¢- _ < ~. , * _ t AL 65-1661+ ' , ' 5. In March or April, 1950, Mrs. SAR$NTadvised she went to ;e - 7 New York City alone, driving down with friends and returning by bus. She stated that she stayed in New York for two days to consult a physician and refused to discuss the nature of her business with him. , . 6. She advised she returned to New York in May of 1950 . 4 > ~ alone, driving down with Mr. ROSS and returning by bus. She stated this was for the purpose of visiting the doctor mentioned above. f 7. She stated she and the children went to New York by I plane on July ll, 1950, returning on July 21, 1950. She stayed with T . ARTHUR and MURIEL BOUDIN. This was to be a vacation trip. She advised her husband had made one trip to New York alone in March of 1950. She stated this was with a JOSEPH INTERMAGGIO and the purpose was to raise funds for the purchase of a building in connection with her husband'sbusiness. She believed they stayed 4 approximately three or four days. She advised she did not recall r the exact date, but it could be obtained from the finm of Brewer and Brown, a furnace repair firm in Ithaca, New York, who had to come out and repair their heating system while her husband was gone. | BAChCROUNDr _ . -..,. _ ~ H Mrs. SARANT advisedthat she vns born April 2,_l923 at_Neq York City. Her father'sname wasDAVIQFRUBEL; hermother's wasname MENA"BRANDT. Her father and mother weredivorced and her mother later , married VICTOR K. D. ROSS, who adopted her so that she was known 1 . afterthat as LOUISELROSS. She advised that she is more comonly . known by the nickname "PUSS". /"2 ,» 1 ' . x /L -"' . She resided in New York City until about 1935 and then moved with the ROSSES to Norwich, New York, where they resided about one year. They then moved to Ithaca, New York. She stated that the last addresswhich sheremembered L residing with her parents in New York City was at #2 Charlton Street. ' She attended high school in Ithaca, New York, and then went . .to Fenn College, Cleveland, Ohio, for one your in l9hl. She has had no further formal education. . A 1 She advised that she has been employed at the following places: . w A -59- "1 ~"7 3""'92.. :~=s£a.'*"""" I "T ~* ,.-;_».-r-'.=a--i5.. t EA-:..'...-.:-=_ri- *.!' "" .135- ""'P"*-- ".=' .;-?M i: *...i~" ?:s: @~*$-I k. =,-.._ '~}*.'~"l"""T'1 =?"T: =f : ~_I'*-§-" _. . tr»- 'nz~-.i>".~:» '.*»,.:_s -Y s j o - if 1 .~ - 4 --. "3 "3 _ ,1, -c. AI; , In the sumer of l9k2 for the Eclipse, a division of V. f 1 the Bendix Corporation at Elmira, New York. y She was employed by the Soviet Government Purchasing - Commission, Washington, D. 0., for a few months p in l9h3 or l9kh. 1 She worked for the Aero Spark Plug Company, New York "- City for e few months, which she believed was in l9kh. [R She was employed by the Premier Crystel_Laboretory, New 5 York City, for a short time, probably in l9hh. 5 ~ I u She was also employed by "Look" magazine for a short 1 time in New York City in l9hk or l9h5. 1 She stated that all of this employment at the various factories ' was either in assembly or inspecting and that the other employment was ' - clerical. She advised she was unemployed in l9h5 when_sho met her 4 ' ~ husband, and that the other dates of employment are not clear to her _ _ since they were all of short duration and she visited back and forth ' between Ithaca and New York City very ?requently and was unemployed for long periods . of time. I . ' , _ , .¢ - . 92 I, J=-r-* She stated she spent a few mouths in Mexico City, whore she "' visited JAMES and ELIZLBETE:§O5ENHOUSE. She believed this was in l9E2 or l9h3 and does not recall exactly how she become acquainted with these people. She advised that she had lived during the time she was employed by the Soviet Government Purchasing Comission at two different addresses ' neither of which she recalled. One of them was with a REBECCA end - ' WILLIAMQBEST, which she believes was on Tunelaw Road. The other one was o rooming house operated by e Mrsf1 hEUJL In New York, she stated she had resided somewhere on West Fourth Street in l9h2 or l9h3 with JANE SPARGO HUTCHINSON. She advised that the only other address in New York where she had over lived for any period of time prior to her marriage was at 60 Morton Street, whore she had one room in an apartment which was rented by an EDWARD_ ,/i;>- I,INDEI4£»N . ~ She stated that her real father, DAVID RUBEL, resides somewhere in New York City or Long Island, but that she has seen him on only one occasion since she was about three years old, and thnt was to have lunch with him about the time of her marriage in l9F5. She advised that her parents, VICTOR K. 0. and 1uIm4§ oss, " had been very patient with her and that the reason she had gone to Mexico and had lived alone in New York on various occasiens'during . ' - 92,~. - 60 - _ . . -iv ..* 1'»-1! 'L- 4=- -' » .1?-""." »-"- i ~. " *'L~.- R ,92~ -~ -, .77.. -» .1i""'* ¥? . .,._ ,, . 4 ..~1, . ~ -'! »ZJluf * 7~*~'"i""a .. -._.. _»-_ -,, ..,.~-~ -Y" -- 2.; V V» - 1» .,.,.,~---__,.. 1 1:,-4-'we .- "*3L_..2'¬"aa ~ _ r - ._ o 0 $ .~L "3 = - " a L 65~l66l+ . _ ' which she was uncmployei and was suported by them was that she bed been * unqblo to make up her mini as to her future and that it had been their_ thought that by allowing her to spend some time in New York City-by herself she would be able to come to some decision. She statc that was the reason she was living alone in New York and was unemployed at the time she met her husband. . * v l DESCRIPTION: 1 Home LOUISE JRCQUELINE RUBEL RQ§Sf§ER£NT, also known as "Puss", "Puss§cat" Date of Birth April 2, 1923 . . Place of Birth New York City Height 5 I2 I _ Weight llS ~ Hair Dark brown ' Eyes Brown wears glasses continually; suffers from astigmatism.! Complexion Meclium Good ' Teeth Nose ~ Rather long; pointed Buili Slight Scars and Marks None known Peculiarities None known Occupation Housewife Husband ALFRED SARANT ' Children ' JEREMY, born 12-u-1+6 STEPHEN xwormn, born June 15, 191+8 - 51 - I i & """ *F*? "" . r ~ V - " 3» 4 -r v . »- - - ,. T-*= ."f =aI~-.-""i92T--'=- ~-o-_-'r.*i, »* ***>*'- ""'m_§,'-' ~»-MY:-»"Y§'§* ~*§'>3lf=~ v - 92 W "';,'{','."==~.-" : " " »» ' ' " > 4 'a~ -¢~ ' M ' A ' . a ~{ ..".:._ , . _.<-.- - , l is 1 AL 65-1661+ ' an-1=v.~. ~ XVI EISOELLQQEOUS if _ _ :_~ . . v , . c » : 4 . The following indivieuals, 1 who are associated with ' b Su jcct ~ in his painting business at Ithaca, New York, were interviewed. . - » F_ §f_.f.I"~TK~ 1f:;'92ocz< . P , On Jul" J 28, 1950, FRANK LA ROCK was interviewed at his paint store, 537 W. State n street, Ithaca. He - furnished - . the iollowing v .. 1nfor- - » nation. I t He stated that he and SARANT are 50-SO partners in the business INTERHAGGIO was considered in forming the business; however, INTERMAGGIO_ was unable to raise enough money and finally it was formed by SARANT and LA ROCK. SLRANT takes no active part in the store. La ROCK said he does V all banking and bO0kkceping; bank account is at Tompkins County Trust Company. He said that SARANT seldom receives telephone calls or mail at the store.- Such calls or mail are apparently for business purposes. LA RQCQ says his association with SABANT is completely for business reasons and_he does not have any social contact with him. . .- LA ROCK stated to his knowledge SARANT has been out of Ithaca v only twice in the time he has known him, which is since January, 1950. In April, SARANT and INTERMAGGIO went to New York City together, the purpose of the trip being to raise money to start the business. SARLNT contacted his father ior this purpose, LA ROCK believes. The other trip out of Ithaca is his present vacation trip, though LA ROCK said he has ' I : 1&- ~4* 0 92 1 ¢ ; 1f §- _ AL 65-16-51+ " < 1 K 4 i . .1..- . .e. ..92_7» . . _ . ' -. *.' 1 i' LA ROCKsaid SARANT sfather-ir -lax: handled te 1.1 w<'>1.~: . » Mr; DONALD J. BENNETT, 111+Auburn Street, Ithaca, was inter- 92 viewed on July 28, 1950. Mr. BENNETT is a member of the Ithaca Fire Department and since smnetime in l9h8 has been acquainted with the Sub- R ject. Hefirst became acquainted with him because he had previously helped~the Subjeet's father inllaw, VICTOR ROSS, build a house QB the West Shore Road, Ithaca. After this house was completed, ROSS told 4 BENNETT that SARAH? needed a carpenter. After helping construct the Subject's house,BENNETT beganworking for the Subject as a painter in the spring of 19k8. He has worked for him intermittently since that . date. < .1» BENNETT said that he recalled that SARAHT had made a trip to ¢ . New York with JOSEPH INTERMAGGIO about March 1950. He stayed several um : ".; days, ostensibly to borrow money to purchase the building which he owns .. ~ ~ in partnership with CLARENCE LA ROCK in Ithaca. BENNETT further advised 2 that while he worked at the Subject's house he did not get acquainted with any of the-Subject's Visitors, and did not know who; if anyone, , 3 visited him from New York._- BENNETT advised that his almost daily contact with SARANT had not in any way given him the impression that the Subject is in any way disloyal, or inclined toward Communism. i ¢ . "'4" J 1J - 63 - v. 1 2 , . Q T . Q é . -.1? 1 I 0 ' < * -. ' 4-A 92 e 92 - A AL 65-166'+ - » " I -I in : JOSEPH INTERNAGGIO ¢ . 92INTERMAGGIOwas interviewedon July 27, 1950, at the home ofa _. ,..92-.1 friend, A¢{ lNKELSTEIH,RD, westShore ofCayuga Lake.J," 1 1 - » I INTERHAGGIO said he has been a partner of VICTOR ROSS in the 0 Waterlox paint iranchise since May, l9k6, but is dissolving that agree- - 4 ment. He first heard about Subject from ROSS about two years ago, and A first met Subject about a year and a half ago. Since the spring of l9h9, .1 he has been giving Subject leads for painting contracts. Early this .~ year, Subject, FRANK LA ROCK and INTERMAGGIO plannedto form a partner ¢ A ship in the paint business; however, the partnership was not completed. =92 INTERHAGGIO feels Subject did not live up to previous oral agreements j 4 92 ~ when it came time to form the partnership. The store was opened about March 20, l95O. Shortly after, probably very early in April, INTERMAGGIO s made a trip to New York City with Subject. .- ' ' The purpose of the trip was for both to contact persons to raise money for the business. They drove from Ithaca in Subject's car, left Ithaca on e Saturday morning, arrived in Long Island that evening, where Subject dropped IHTERNAGGIO at his family's homein Oceanside, Long Island. On Sunday INTERMLGGIO spent the day visiting friends and relatives in Long Island, and did not see or contact Subject. The date of their trip can be fixed, if necessary, by determining the date of the 4 L.I.R.R. wreck which occurred the day they arrived.! On Monday, INTER- MAGGIO s brotheriinilaw drove him to Rockville Center where AL picked 1 him up'end~the7drove into New York City together. In New York City IHTERMAGGIO called on s Mr. ANDERSON at the firm of ANDERSON and CLARK, Reporters, and GEORGE'SCHwARTZBule Bellof Mfg. Company. He believes AL met ANDERSON and may have met SCHWARTZ. They had planned to return to Ithaca that day; however, AL had something he wantcd'todo unknown to INTERMAGGIO! and they stayed over. INTBRMAGGIO stayed at his aunt's home in Brooklyn that Monday night, met AL on Tuesday, and they returned to Ithaca. , On Monday evening, IHTERMAGGIO and SARANT had dinner at some tavern which features spaghetti. They were supposed to be met by BEIQQW SANDERS,there, but SANDERS didnot appear. INTERMAGGIO saidhe docs not 0 - Eh - 192 » 7 -" .-.2;.'F ;-.;.L.<.§.»..;-.»~..1->c,.i..~2__...; __~ ..*t *'1'? 92:?.L!:$ r.**?}¢-l¢k:;E§.&g v_ _ __"_ _£,,r__ 2 _ _ _ __ _ , , . 1 .. - '7' » = 1 ' ~ 0+ _ 92 - I J v 4 :1» AL' 65-1661; . . . K 1 v know anything also about Subjcct's activities in New York City. He mentioned he has mot SANDERS at Subjoct's homc.A This restaurant is not in the Village section. . ' T ~ Regarding other trips of Subject out of Ithaca, IHTERMAGGIO 1 . said that SARAl"J'i ma several trips to Auburn vita him to contact I _,¢%WORDEN'S PAINTSTORE, but knows nothing about any other trips " that he recalls Subject did make a trip to New York City with except ~ I and children at sons time in the last your or so, hiswife » I -.1 92 ~ ._ - 65 - y 92 2 ,- ~ c 0! 1 _ 5 1 z » M, 55-15514 - PFM:VAF'" = " XVII ", = BACKGROUND ANDDESCRIPTION OF ALFRED SARALA . , Y I 1 . . ,5 . 1v.;£-5! . , ' ~ Q. " -f The following informationwas furnished by Subject and is _ . 5 %. augmented by additional information as reflected in the files of the _ '5 Civilian Personnel Records Branch, A&jutant Gcncral's Office, Dcyartmcnt 7 of the Army, St. Louis, Missouri; Cooper Union, How York City; and *' _ wcstcrn Electric Company, Kcaray, New Jersey. X A. 2121*}: 5A:m5c1111zEms;;;Pi t ALFRED SARAHTwas born September 26, 1918 at New York City, and is an American citizen. His parents, both born in Grcccc, are naturalized citizens. ' ' B. §§LATIVES AND FAMILY I 192; 5 SLRAHT has idcntificd the following as his innc iato relatives . and family. . 3 J K HONDA GEORGE SARAHT Father, born in Greece; naturalized 5 Rcsidcnce - 160 W. Merrick Rd., Baldwin, Long Island ~ _ Occupation - Insurance Busincss - 5 v PHILOMEL CRISAHTHQS SABAHT ? Mother orn in Grcccc; deceased ~ _ 4 I 5_ , b A SLRAKT - Brother, 39 years old; married; born in U.S. ' Rcsidcncc - S. Grove Strcet, Frcoport, Long Island Occupation - Owner of Ford Agency in Frcoport It is noted that he is a well known spccdboat racer.! y ' O EUXTDND'SARANTBrother, 37 years old; married; born in U.S. Ru5id0UCC- London, England suburb! _ , Occupation - Owner of Chemicals and Essential Oils, Ltd. cxport-import from London, England 92 WILLIAM' rva/92QnR NT ~ Brothmr, 27 years old; married; born in U.S. - _' Residence - 100 W. Merrick Road, Baldwin, Long Islano I Occupation - In insurance business with fatncr ¬ 1 ll . 4- .s ~. - 06 " ~¢:~ ~ ..' 131'. i-2 -*1 ? -2 V s _ '~.? £d92 v-6,_ v a Q 6 - » . . » ; '1~ . " ~ .2 .- 1 . :3, 65-1661» *"= - _,,_ -. .,"_ 0 RICHARD §£§Q§§Brother, - 22years old; single} bornis U.S. Residence - 160 U. Merrick Road, Baldwin, Long Island _ , Occupation Salesman, Strauss Store, Frccport, L. I. . , ELECTRA MARIELB%XSOH- Sister, 38 yearsold; married; born U}S. P ' Residence- 150 U. Merrick Road, Baldwin, Long Island _ - 1 - Occupation - Real estate business, , JOEL JAZQQE~ Brothcr in-Law ' Residence - 169 W. Merrick Road, Baldwin, Long Island . Occupation ~ Used car dealer, Frccport, Long Island .LOUISE J. SARAHT - wife W Residence - RD #1, Cayuga Heigkts Rd., Ithaca, N.Y. ' ' Records of Marriage Liccnsc Bureau, NYC, reflect that _ ALFRED SARAHTnarried LOUI3EJQKQOSS, 60Morton Street, New York City, on July 3, l9R5} She was born h/2/23 at New York City; 4 , sum-!'1'- Son, born 12/1,,--msat It§.'.acs., 11.1 . - Residence- RD #1, CayugaHeights R1,, Ithccc,_H.Y. STEPI{E1=Isrswm - Son, born 6/15/n8 at Ithaca, I~I.Y. ' v - Resi cc59»-RD #1,Cayuga HeightsRd., Ithaca, N.Y. 4 ¢ . . . J _ < VICTOR K. D. ROSS - Fathc-r-in-A-Lm-.' ' I Residence - RD #3, TaughannockBIkd., Ithaca, H.Y. »*- Occupation - Luwycr, llh North Aurora 5t., Ithaca, N.Y. _ Mn-m Bfiiass- Iiothcr-in Lmr . , Rcsiénccc-1 RD #3, Taughcnnock Blvd1,_Ithccc, N.Y. c . RESIDE_I§_C_E_§_ ' SARANT has furnished the following residences and the periods spent at each place. . ' -67-I c ,_ _ ~"_- HE . s_=f1'.vc.-.»,v'_-._ ~,,, c : ,;; -P" ~~- ,,.,@»,H, E_,~R,*i -¢~- ; . ; 7'@"1.,-'_~ W. 1, _. ,. % 1. ;g;;,;,u,»;,;*.,.,,.,,,,.;,,,;_.a.,. .»_..v_,-3; i :,* Y _,;~,;;,,~;_»_»',,,, q_,,_"_~.: '- v $4 ~ . 92. Q .-I 4 p "*1-. :- ~ i i . ~ t " Y . 92 um»:-.. ." & K -1. I I D T " x . w 1 ..' " Ilr - §%.;~! ;. l . » =1; - n - ,_ .1» _v 'I;'= Fl K 95:" Q I; .5 . ~ ._ 1. < J-1'... ~ ' Z e; f 92'? 1 n ..92 _.- , RL- ' '_o_ '45 , ~< 1-.1. 65-166» '» _ ; w - A "1. 1. , . ':~.~* a= r ~ ~4- 92 u r .' *~:~ 1 ! - 1 599 S, Ocean $yonuej*FroeQ0r% L053 I land f 1913-1935 -_ s: -n .92' Residcd with family v n. . 3 .- 1_'4.,92;-$2 ___7______, _. ,_ 1 - >.'--~ '|.' 7' '92 Y? >3 .- . _ 23 Colony Street; West_Hempstead, Long Islan o- 1936-5/bl 0 l , I1 Resided with fmnily this d dréss listé in 7 Zanii 92_ L ;__-_.*~ v. 1. 1 ¥' I _ Cooper Union records! X . hf ~ r x I 105 Qlijtqn Avgnue, Newark, New Jersey -- 6/hl;9[#l r v u Y iLAdVisod né shared a room with o former classmate ,. ,4 at Cooper Union, SAQ'SPCOL, who was also employed 92 at Western Electric Company this address listed 3 192 u~ - ' r 'a» in vlestern Electric employment records as of 9/1+3.! 2 ; r . 1 .. llk Norwoco Avenue! Long Branch, New Jcrsog ' '¢".§ 4,.at This address was not mentioned by Subject CPRB,AGO F records reflecting employment with U.S. Army Signal . -15 _{ Corps, Fort Monmouth, N.J. list this address as 9/kl! .~ I-92a_ 4 . .5. 590 Russell Avenue, Long Brgnqn, New Jersey +- 9/hl~9[hg - U, , » W Advised he rented furnished house vith"3sRJAm;n1;Ew1s and nARv3; - Central YMCA, B;yonne,oNev_Jersey -- 9/k2~lO/Q2 -_ ; Advised this was §hile he wés looking for a permanent - Ii _ r 9 room. jl.- 92 -.=-92 ,-- -,;,,.w =. QMHost 33rd Q§rcet,WBaycnn:, Rev Jorsoy -1 lO/R2-3/k3 .-_ .4 Advised 631s was i onolroom apartment, Qhie he _ -P occupied alone. {This address listed in Western Electric employment records as of 10/28/h?. Q 92 1 Q8 West 3hth Street, _V_ 7_ Ba cnne J ?L Wow-_ ,, Jorse" - ,,_;-/_ ../Q-92 was listed as nis acdrcss prior to moving to Morton Street in letter fround in search of his residence. > x 4 65 Morton Strcot,_Apoi §mpt @I,{Hcy_York City 5- l0/R3-Q/b6 u Ibis address listed 92 Ln wcstorn Elcctric en@loymehQ't records asrf 3/kn; lease located in search of > . I r < residence reflects occupancy from l0/l/M3.! '1 I -6é3- A . r 1 ;¢~,-» .>< 1>- . _,-_:: 7 1 A - .31 0 .1'1. ¢ :7 E .. , ~, -- ":24 ' '.' vs ~ t ~ 4 - ¢.;§<-L _ f,» 6 6 , £7 N r» -. 92 , »--L: _.' kt» I .? l M k :1-3.: F FA! »- 92 a I V :' _- , M} _ = r A , - Q fv Q S __ ~92: J =1,,~ . l, :3 ~ -92 _ > Li; : .>_~>I , . U Q» . .5 Q _ _ ~'* _ ~-,.-s<.'. 1 92 . .- .__ v .. i 92 1 r -.. 1."'l.¢~' ~ ---.'-».~" ' A , .4, ., .. ~_..§». ; . 1: " 3; » - ~'_. » . 'J92 g 1- . 1;; 1. 5 -M :7. - ;' 92-.,. .._.1 _; . -~,u,_If-3* 'AL 65-l66h ~ _ ;.,.., 1 -., ', t a ,3 - r 71 , 8 . T 1 _ v _ ..; . .. #22 Eddy Street, n.n.~.¢@.,A ex: York -A29/t6;]/_1+w5 . :4 .2» '- K . 1. 1 H 7 Advisedahe shared o artmcht with the RO5S's, in~lsws! __ 1,.",::. _ wt? 1 92. ' o . _' 3_;." _.Q _ . ! and that he moved from this address about 2 weeks '~ "~ - :~.'.-' " . ""* {.1 "$73.4 after son, STEPHEN, was born, 6/15/t3. This address _' 41 * vqs " .. _ .,, listed in western Electric employment records as of 0: ~ - ,1. 9/#6 ! ~ _ ~ .» c '1! ii. .'- 92 .31 .#._:~§ Q_a1/ixgaz gsighps Road, _RD_#l, I_tho.eo. ,, 1-;;.§92?.» y?<>;~2¢ Tq/0w. 3300;; - ..., 1 _..92 " ,-,1.. :,<:n . ~ < _DA1'q30::§c i--r T.?[1§i-2/R2 .v ,. 1-, ' . __./'... Advised that he and family lived with the DAYTONS , :- - 3. v during this period, while he was working on construc- Y1 < tion of his house, located next door. -92 4 . L an I '7 L 9 . , . ,.. 1 .-Kg.': .v _ Earns? Hsiséis BQQQ2 RD #1, 33h@¢@».F°3 York -- §Z 9 is ds s '" | 1? This is new modernistic home, which SARART built himself | "v. A v -I - cv ti"-.=. I n. EDUCATION , " 1 VQr_' £7 .1 us: z _ . i SARANT described his education as follows. yes crn Electric 4 Company Employment Records also listed this educational record. g v ' Arcer Street School - Frceport, New York -- 9/an-6/30 E. ¢ - v Frecport High School - Freeport, New York ~~ 9/32-9/36 A ,92 . , " , '.~'*'"4. ¬3 -». .Z, N -. empstead High School - Hempsteed, New York -- l§36 graduéted! .0 . K, l ~ Cooger Union - Nev York City -- 1936-l9¥l Coopcr Union records 1. reflect'he entered in 9/36 and graduated on 6/5/kl with al gx B.E.E. Degree! ' > - ~ Stevens Institute - Hoboken, N. Y. -- Subject advises he " . attended for approximately 2 months in l9hl or l9h2. Western Electric Company employment records indicate attendance from 9/kl to 12/hl! ' : Brooklyn Polytechnic Institute -~ Subject advises he was in H in attendance for approximately one term in l hh material in his n sidvnce indicated one term, l9h3q l9kh school year; graduate courses in E.E.! - 4 - $9 - ' r k ' 0 2 ""§5=? ~1.i'-1 5 .. . '~-+' ~' r ;i;~ 1?, ~ H " * K >. ' " ~ ,,.~. v - _- > _ _. ' <---> _ - _ s :. -- __ .-- ~ -. .____-~,__- ""v::;- :5" ~"""'3"T§" }'*92._ ._..-... -.._ . _ ., _~. - » » 1 2 9* . 4~. ~ S: 92r<' a ' 9",»....he ,... ¢ I!. -1 o 3 1' ._. .,_§4 1' :41.x . = _, v ,- ~.." < ~.¢ e; X ,;_-<*r.- 41 ~-r. P . ; ~ <. '3., '..921.-F.~ 5535'! 1 . . . q--x,. J 3-. 2 ~ .~ *.1..¢@; K < u . _;,.-M _ . .3M? ~<..»-~,-_.. ..92 yr _. _< ca Pg; . 1'1,.. _ .q_'8 ;_.- _,, z92 , ., . _§ AL '65-lean 1 5* it .. I. -¢~» ~:2 -' !~n _ _ .Q92*f ' . .. . _,r_ _Ja ,l I-o _~ , 1; 9 . E. EEEKQ, - 92 4 .. » ~ , - 0 . 1, x? ... iA4 .-F 92- 1 92. 1"! "' , vi. =5 . .- ",. '. 1» SARANT furnished the following record of his employment history J e ~ t '_ A - . _, . 92;=._» , ~3- which has been augmented by additional investigation. , 1, ¢ < 1. -,5! 7l r. -2. ¢..., v 1 ¬'..~ t... lf Truck Form, Hcmpsteod, N.Y. Summer! - I -'~»._ l Allan Berg Florist, Hempstead Ave., Hempsteed, H.Y. :" 3 <' hr 3I r . ...j greenhouse attendant summer! _ ' » T. '~ 922 ,~ H-. Swift Cleaners, Freeport, .Y., helper summer! » ¢1 Universal Form Clamp Company, lOl Perk Avenue, New York City, ' » .. A engineering assistant ' 92 - . 4- 1 '-__»{..~ »_ ,_P . 92~'1 SARART advised that these employments, all temporary, covered > r c the period from 1936 to l9hl, while he was still in school. western .. g _ :4 Electric Company records indicate the employment for ALLAH BERG took . 92 . _ ,1 .2.v;-re place from May 1939 to September l939. SARANT stated he was not certain 92 . Y13 F. of the chronological order of these employnents, but that he worked for .» - ii ¢ s ! the'Universal FormClamp Company prior to his employment with Western _.._, ~ Electric Company. _ _ ' = 7 .~ >3. 2 » - * ' WesternElectric Coqpnny; lCO Central Avenuei_§eernyl N.J,, > v 92' iro '6/l6/Ll to 9/25/kl. Records of this company reflect he was employed I 92 as of the sbovewdctes as a switchboard engineer and that he resigned "in. . D order to pursue laboratory work." '~ ,~ ,_fi'_-; v ~ . _ §.S. Arny_Signal Corps, General Development Lqporntories, 4'! . 4 Fort Monrmutp, New Jersey 5- 9/2g/Ml to 9/Eikg. Records of the CPRB, x Adjutant Gcnéral s or::¢@; Department of the Army, reflect that ALFRED K " Q. _.~g UHEU SARAHTwas appointed junior radio engineer, P-l, temporary appoint- '»_ .3. ment on September 22, l9hl. His duties were developing and testing new , _ ~._: __~:1 radio direction finding equipment designed for vehicular use by combat units of the U. S. Army. He was employed in the Engineering Service .5 Section VHF Installation Division!. Additional background information '* ~ i-; in this file reflected that Subject speaks and reads Greek and Spanish. X His listed technical avocotions included power tools and lathe, pho~ J togrcphy including processing!, painting, and short-wave radio operation ».. including construction of same.! . E: ~. ~< » "7 r1 ,-7o- _ r 1- 92 ' ¢ a-1 .,-» ~ .. . 1 . aw I . F ¢ . F 4, 4; ¢ r ev . I r x <¢ v . , , , 92 ~ ' 1 = ¢ ¢;L" , . - . » 4 I » . u ,,.:v'*?., 1 - _,-..'¥'- . ,1 _I 1 . ~ » 1 I J " e . J, ' _ ,.>7 ' ._ ., 4 . 92~ - . , a .- l 92 . ., . _ x ._,_s i 92 ..- AL 65-1661» I ._ .~ Y " . ff;3 _ > ¢~ 1-_"2 ,. < ' ' I . -M V..~' y , ~J"'- I 1 A ,.,4. Qn geytember Q, 19kg, SARAHT was suspended for failure to» 1' . -92 _% j , c .» . .~_, 3",. ~~ . -. Laboratory to proceed to Detroit, Michigan, for temporary duty. v __~l_: .> 1 -92 », q.¢§. ~ _ ._ _ ..~.,~ , 92 , 1... 1 _ 92 comply with.orders of. He was discharged the Director with prejudice of the Signal on September Corps Development 3, l9h2; how- _ ~ 1, ,..;;ig, ever, this was later changed to resignation without prejudice, »_ V i r effective September 3, l9h2. V , . . . 1 , . -,. with reference to this employment, Confidential Informant ~ 0- ' _ ' T~2, of known reliability, advised as follows: "He was a most un- A ~ 5 desirable employee in that he is arrogant, refuses to obey orders, » ~./ causes dissension and unrest among other employees, and presided at a _ 1 secret meeting of about 20 employees." _ ' . 1 y Western Electric Qgnpeny,_§eyonne, New Jerscy_@- 9/30/#2 ¢~§/k3 Records of this'company maintained in the Kuarny, New Jersey Office, ~ ~ reflect SARANT was rehired on September 30, l9h2, as an assistant _ 0 engineer.in test planning at the Bayonne Plant; this was work dealing ~ with radar test equipment. The files reflect that on September 23, . l9h2, he signed a copy of the Espionage Act and on September 29, l9h2, ' _ he signed a non-Communist Party and German-American Bund affidavit. - western Electric Company, llth Avenue Plant and h2nd Street , § Plant, New Xorx City, 8/K3 to 10/15/U5. Company records ere not exactly" , 2 1 clear as to then SARAKT vas transferred from the Bayonne Plant. He _, 92 states that it was approximately August, l9k3. Subject was employed in t 1: both of the above plants in 1-zew York City. In 19%, he was promoted to engineer on test planning on the fifth floor of the llth Avenue Plant. . His file also reflects that he traveled to Detroit, Michigan in November y 19kb, on two occasions on_compeny business and that he was on vacation during the week ending August 27, l9bh. On October 15, l9h5, he was transferred to the Bell Telephone Laboratories, west Street, New York , City. _ a r §ell_Tclcphone Laboratories, §3 west Street, New York City, lO[l5/M5 tQ_Q£l;Zk§. Western Electric Company records reflect SARAHT I was employed on ultra high frequency research and development at the . Bell Telephone Laboratory. He resigned on September ll, 19b6, in order. "to enter the teaching profession." I i 5' ' .. , - /1 - , . Q U , - r K ~ .- "_ r >. _~..1' ,._§_=if .1, . 1 I '21 ?-1 » K W-3; '3 -. ;'~<"~~. gra s i , x ;§¢;,,,, . lv v _ :,,_ - J. t ~ so o 0 it -.735; _ - .,v "', J4 I; . Z V 1 4. » :s .. Ll .-,3: AL 65-166k 5* ¢ . s~-'. r ,- _~ Cornell University, Ithaca, new York -5 5/19/#7 to 6/30/k8. v_T.1 ROGERKEOX, ?ersonncl Supervisor, Laboratory of Nuclear Studies, Cornell l > - University, advised that SARAHT was employed as an electrical engineer . *4 A during the above period, although actually paid through July 21, l9h8, ~-_ a. duelto accumulated leave. He was responsible for the planning and arrange-- ... ment of circuit wiring that controls the cynclotron including control _ ~ ~ meters, push buttons, signal lights, etc.! Mr. KNOX described this as " rather a complicated Job and stated that SARANT had made an efficient ' < installation. - - . -- I e,., Mr. KNOX advised that SARAH? had tried to get_into graduate school but that he lacked the necessary qualifications. when it was found out that he had c degree in electrical engineering, he was offered ' 92.»1 employment on a month to month basis for a three month's period. Al- though extended to over a year, it was understood by all that it was a 1 temporary position. SARANT was paid a monthly salary of $350. His A »~ hours of employment were from 9200 AM to 5:0 PM weekdays, and 9:00 AM '. Jr to;l:0O PM on Saturday. From approximately June 12 through September O 9,-there was no Saturday work. - v + u Mr. KNOX further advised that since SARANT was a salaried employee, no payroll or time records were kept on him. He did not have to sign in or out of work and generally speaking he was under no super- vision. Mr. KNOX stated that he believes that Subject was not what one , - . would call a "steady employee" and that he seems to recall his being, _ 2 away from work on some occasions when he was needed. 92 > ca Professor JOHN W. DE WIRE, general supervisor of the Nuclear ' Laboratory during its construction, was interviewed concerning Subject. v He stated that SARAMT had been a satisfactory enrleyec and that he had done a good job, althoughfhe was not too interested in the work because it did not tax his capabilities. Professor DE WIRE could recall no _ .. undue absences from work, adding that if such had been the case, he .5 fr would have taken administrative action. ' _ Q I . I. J. LIVANT, electrical engineer, GHQ HARRY.LINSLEY, Elec- tronics Shop, Nuclear Laboratory, both advised that they had worked under Sub3ect's immediate supervision, both in the Nuclear Laboratory l . A , ¢ 92 - Y2 - » ' d - = - ""3; d . do 3% ~ . 1 = z ' .. 92 x -. 4 .1 _ ,- 92 AL 65-166k . z . -..- - »_ . A ~ and in Rockefeller Hall PhysicsDepartment! where SARANT assembled 'most of the electric panels for installation in the cynclotron in the Nuclear Laboratory. They recalled no undue absences from work or any~ ~ _ w-=- W thing of a derogatory nature concerning him. ~ '. -n é A Self-employment -- l9h9_to date. Subject advised that somc- . time in the spr1ng 5r l§§9, he §ent into business as a painting con- tractor and has been engaged in that business ever since in the Ithaca i area. This information was borne out by interview with JOSEPH Ii?'I'EPJ"- Z.P -.GGIO, Sales Agent, Contempora Products Waterlux Points!in Ithaca. He advised that he has been giving Subject leads for painting contracts since the spring of 19'+9. DONALD J. BE:-s~rL'1r'r, 111+ Auburn Street, Ithaca, who has worked for Subject since l9h8, first in build- ing.his hone on Cayuga Heights and later as a painter, also verified thiS*SQlf umpl0yHCD of Subject. FRANK LA ROCK, 537 West State Street, Ithaca, advised that he and Subject have been partners in a paint store at this address since June, 1950. ' F. SELECTIVE RECORDS -i . -ALFRED SARAHT registered with Local Board #719, Hempstead, Nassad County, New York. 1-ror."g.a.,»s;4Lwuar father! was given as the . person always knowing his address, and his residence was given as 23 Colony Street, Hempstead, New York. Subject registered on Octobcr_l6, . l9hO, and at the time listed his residence address as 23 Colony Street, Hempstead, Nassau County, New York. He also indicated that he was * attending Cooper Union School, Astor Place, New Iork City, Subic-ct's questionnaire, dated Ziay 17, 191a, indicated that he had attended Cooper Union Institute of Technology studying Electrical - Engineering for five years! He indicated that he was a student and un- . 92 employed. . . , SubJect's occupational questionnaire ' , date-stamped July 2, 19b2, gave his occupation as a Radio Engineer, stating that he started this type of work on June 6, l9hO, and at that writing had had one year and one month experience in this type of work. He listed the duties of » . '73 - » ~.. * 1 ' 0 . s 9 ': .¢ I .. >_ -u .- _ 3 , 1 I 92 ¢ » , . ; _ ' AL 65-166% his job as consisting of installing and maintaining U.S. Anny Signal Corps plane intercept systems at various strategic stations in and out _ ~ of the country. He indicated likewise that he had previous experience ' on semi-fixedvery highfrequency interceptcontrol netsystem Scs-2, _ V and stated that he used radio sue telephone instruments and equipment; ; His euployer_wcs given as the U. S. Army Signal Corps, General Dcvelop- P nant Laboratories, Fort Monmouth, New Jersey Engineering Service!. - SARAH? stated-on the questionnaire that the occupation for which he was next best fitted was a Communications Engineer, in which ' ~ capacity hehad oneyear andone months experience, likewise starting k ' on June 6, l9hO. His next best occupation for which he was fitted was - listed as Draftsman, for which he claimed ten months experience, starting May and ending September, 1938, and again experience in this . work_fron May, 1939, through September, 1939. Q On July 3, l9hl, the western Electric Company,Inc., lCO Central Avenue, Kecrny, New Jersey, requested a deferred-classifica- tion for the Subject. stating that he was employed by them as an Engineer at the Kcarny Works since Juno 16, l9hl. On the basis of this request, the Local Board placed SARAHT in 2-B deferred classifi- cation, necessary man!. ' ' On October 17, l9hl, the Western Electric Company, Kearny, New Jersey; advised the Local Board that SARAHT had left their employ. On October 23_ l hl, tEc Local Board wrote SARAH? and rc- quested his present address. On oveuber 13, l$hl, from 590 Russell 1 Avenue, Long Branch, New Jersey, SARAHT advised the Local Board that he had received a request to report for s physical examination on November lh, l9hl, but that he would be unable to comply since he was new working and living in New Jersey; further that he was no longer ' connected with the western Electric Conpary there, but was now en- ployed by the U. S. Government as a Ra io Engineer in the Research Laboratories, Fort Monmouth, Huv Jcrscy. SARANT stated that he was liqing at that time at 590 Russell Avenue, Long Branch, New York. 92 -" l;,.. - -n T? '.1'.f'?.¢~§;~h.~" _5':"_;.:',~_.-J_$*i :ll%'A_;*~.>:-§tk':c-:_ at- _;~, :2 1 L 5a., -&, ~,_,. - _ e ___ J z 4 __ ,~ :2! -T-_ "'_ jf__ ,-3'», .01. J.- _ _.._4»-.>_l 51 .. t I 0 I ' v»-' .r> ' . " ~- s . I _ ,, 1 V .,_,. . 1 » 3 z_ ' ,. ' ' _ -<--n.. . n ,;_921_.' ~ -:;, it 65-1661+ ,_ "* , ._ . r - r s. x" On October 5, l9h2, SARAHT was ordered to report for induction. ~ 92, * i . , r. .92 :2-: »~ _' On October 3, 19b2, the western Electric Company.requested- I ... '~ , SARANT's deferment, jurat signed by H. S¢*UACKSON, Superintendent, I . Western Electric Company, Iqc., SpecialtyProducts 5h0P5!- ~ -%.~ _ ,_. _ < I .' i: ~. On October 13, l9h2, SARAHT advised the Local Board that he A3 _ had had a conference with two members of the Board regarding a Job defer-A, * fi ment because of the nature of his work at Western Electric. Further, Y'/ ' that on October 8, 1932, Form k2~A was submitted by him from the Western Electric Company and he was told by the Local Board to disregard the in- _ ' - duction notice of October 5, l9h2, and requested that if the Board's 4 - decision had changed that he be notified by telegram to preclude the ~ a possibility of his being delinquent. The Local Board's action in this 1 regard was to classify him in 2 B. " ' _ ' ¢ J » ' The Western Electric Company on June 3, l9hk, advised the ' Local Board that SARANT was new employed by them at their llth Avenue _ Pla t, New York City, and that his address was 65 Horton Street, Apart» ment 61, New York, New York. . ' H On June 19, 19kb, after being afforded a physical examination, the¥Local Board reclassified SARAHT in l-A. Immediately thereafter, the Western Electric Company again requested his deferment and he was H 92 immediately placed in 2-3. 1 On June h, 19b6, on the letterhead of the-Bell Telephone Laboratories, Inc., h63 West Street how York lk, New Yvrk, SARANT noti- fied the Local Board that he had been married on July 6, l9h5, that he ' was presently employed by the Bell Telephone Company at 180 Vsrack ' Street, doing ultra-high frequency research and development, and that he < expected shortly to receive a Research Fellowship to the eminient Atomic Physicist, Dr. HANS¢BETHE, of Cornell University Graduate School. He indicated this workewould commence in the coming fall. . ~ On June 5, 19%, smmrr submitted to the Local Board a corti- ficate from wI1.1:I-znm-1A A. R/92GLI J-H!, M.D., 115 13.:-.:;-n; 17th Street, New York 3, New York, stating that his wife, LOUISE, was pregnant and expecting a child to be delivered approximately November 2%, 19h6. On October 2, l9h6,~the Bell Telephone Laboratories, #63 West Street, New York 1%, New York, advised the Local Board that SARANT had" left their emploj/' on September 11, 1.91-,6. ' » _ nvi/6_ - i '~'> 1 -*P * 5; er -O ~-we " we ,.2-wees!" l - 92 I ;_ = 92 C '»r, _ Q -. 2 1 4 92 . "' - "1 | . AL '65-166a _r: e . ~ z p 4' " c. CREDIT AND carrnwe,Rrconps ' 1 . 4 , . A? The files of the Itheca Credit Bureau reflect that this Bureau '~ _»f ~-~L ' has{had a record on Subject since l9h5. His present residence is listed - _ v f as RD #l,Ceyuga Heights Road; Ithaca, New York, and former residences are ~" Af3 - listed as k22 Eddy Street; Ithaca, and 65 Morton Street, New York City. 4 A i ~ His file reflects that he has been self-employed as a painting contractor , » for tun ycers_and that he was previously employed at Cornell University as electrical-engineer in the Laboratory of Nuclear Studies. His present estimated income is $200. a month. There is no record of any claims or » judgments taken against him. ~ " . , : A clipping from the Ithaca Journal, dated July 9, l9h5, reflects ' as follows: I ~ A % ~ . _ . 1 x ' Mr. and Mrs. VICTOR K. D. ROSS of the west Shore, announce the marriage of their daughter, Miss IDUISE JACQUELINE ~ , w» ROSS, to ALFRED SARANT;.son of Hr. and Mrs. H. GEORGE £ SARAH? of Hempstead, Long Island. They were married July » 5 6, in the Chambers of Supreme Court Justice WILLIAM HECHT, 3: ' How York City. A wedding breakfast was held at the Hotel , " Brevoert. Mr. and Hrs. SARAHT will live in New York City ~ " where Q no 15 n an electrical In 0 ' engineer I witn y 1 y Western Electric " ;'A Company." " ' A_ . _ lag..7.» A . . ,. ' No additional informetion.o¬ value wcsrconteined in the Credit ' 4 J Bureau files. The records of the Ithaca Police Department reflect parking. ' violations for whieh,$l.O0 bail was forfeited in each instance on the , ¢ following.dates:» ' . @ - 11/26/n7 11/20/us u/1/n9 V 1/16/ha 1/15/n9 ~10/u/A9 10/2/ha 3/7/k9 10/28/n9 - . ,, i On August 12, l9h9, Subject was arrested for Speeding within the city limits and he forfeited his $25.0@ bail for appearance in police court. 4 I r-»-. A - - - ~ . '1 a ~ ' , ' '" -" 1* - i . <' -_- '~ 1 ."»'" .. K -" "' ' . ._§:¢@Y N:»:.§~~;?_ '.-mm - _ --.- . 3-l<"1In"s. 9'.--§.J-L. ~ ~- - '.1.."'.n-1 7 . ks ! .. :1. -Y ...R- . Jr .1 *7" . -"! *' '... " _.- '-'5-"we ," - - I v i __ 92 ; x - ._ ~.@ .1 » , 1 C;_ ? * - ,. 92-. ~ - . y M »-w 1 s . 4 . 1 12'. I ', »92.- it. , I .- W- _~ s as , -» . ,, ,.~. .~'. ... .2. ~p .1 .~'.1 -Q , .1»~ :>- _ . dry, _ . , nu , .-."' - IW23 __.~ LC- nql n *..- ' MR22 z .1 1 .yr A 1 ; , : .'..Q ,. _ __.r ~ 1 "I 1" § ,- ,. 4. ~ ~>§U92I'v~ -»-, _._ ' _ ;¢k ,, _.$ _ . E-§~;: -. . H ya ,1;~_ J AL 65-1661+ .~ ¢z92.' a . r I :5!; "' .. .~' .. . 1».7.1,. ,, 92 ,. r n . I tr 4 . -» _i-;'. ~.-5 "F :=I H. DESCRIPTION OF SUBJECT , »§ ~». ._.A ,; < -Q The following description Subject was obtained from rbser _v ". ¢- . .1 V " .. vation and' W interrogation._ ___ ' ' ' 1 ' 1 j - ,1",v_ r ~ . _, . - _- ._~»~,~»_»7.1,- _. ~ ~'> ~ - .1 : 1": -."'';._ 33. I _ Au~ -IX !. _:92_,__, --., _ ., "¢<> - .. ;'f ., §k Date of Birth: of September 26, 1918 _V 1;; I1 _'!' : .- 3; 2 ¢ W Place of Birth; - New York City n . -' -.5 . Race: 1 White ' ~ 3" ; _ Nationality: Greek Q - U.S. '5. t~ l~""1, 4 Citizenship: , t 1-_} -. z».1 _:., 1 ~3" - Height: 5'?-3' , ~ w ,A. . ~v~.5, 4 ; - ,a tr weight: 130 lbs. . ,? " Hair: - Black and curly very heavy! _L .. .. ; . . z -w Dark t Complexion: x . ? Eyes: - Brown ¢ 1 ' .1 -: Characteristics: - Foreign appearance , 1 * 1... .,L'; J7;-C Scars & Marks: _ None r Nose: Q LATGQI than average hooked! A.~ 92. 92 L Build: Q Slight _ 2 2 _s~ ~ 1 *44 } - Social Security No.: O53-18-9198 -2 ~ f Q » Automobile Registration: 1936 Grey Dodge Sedan " ' 92 '<» -._1 Y 92.._, 1950 License 7:: A997 1 " 2 <- A t. 1 ' ~ | Photograph Available ~ .- ' *1 . ~ *1_- rv ii 92 v ¢- I .1 92_ I p v n » 92 4 1 . - . P E H' D I ' N .G - 5 ~ ¢ "> 1 a 5 14 1 a I J a X W 5 M. < Iv 1 92 -78 5'3 2 1 > vl 92 k _ ..,x_ ~ .1-;_' O 9 § . B Q , ,. M If I {R , " r 0 ! x => ' *' x @.- AL 65-1661+ 1 Y E 2 .. 31 5 , I l ' L I.» L 1 ~ Ev- .: ¢ 1. . > F, I § ¥ @§__';@.@ §_?@E_U§ kc.». -$1; ., .>. , ....'-1*; 1-. ', 92 . F »!_3. ' -»._, _!_ ; _,_, 1QQIIOIQIOI929200Iall920u0QI92IbQunI~_A00UQQQOOIIIIOUOIIIO J.v 92 . .92.p_£ :- _ -111. 1010050 Oltoounclociiitnouoo IOD0calnQ92~0Oo ? ..". - Ha .1 - I 1 ,. L; . w ~.'.- OOUQOIQIQCII oioonqouoocitlQIQIOOOIIIQQOOQOQQUQO 492 U» 79 x _- 1 + nn10000vIntIb0I I00100¢or0000000l0Q0¢0nQlIcOOuunlQ0000 '5 1 -~. RE 80 89* .- 92 F . 10000uonvouaoootltonoclnouuntllitittvnoslilns-but L 4 OIIQIIOQQOIIQQOIOFUIOOOIIIIIIQDUOOIIIOI 90 s " . l 1ISCELLAI-TEOUS INFORMATION RECEIVED FROM MRS. ALFRED SARANT ...... 91 128 .5 _- ; Soviet Purchasing Cwmissiozz 92 ._.. 1 ' Bcudin -_ 9Gay S+.rqe+., NYC ...... f ; _.: 130 - . 1 ' J'?.CO 0R1l'0¬l vooa-noofoouov I 0005000! ovvoououu-nounaqoo I 88 -- Hetty-Ss.92rir1ge ...... ~..... i .. Iioward Gruber ...... Leo German ...... 130 a Jane Spargofiutchinson ...... § 130A ooivncnooounnnmyunuoancntunouoooooov <. - .- CHECK OF ROBINSON AIRLINES MANIFEZSTS .'92192ID PASSENGERLISTS ...... 1.30127» " - ll ~v 4 . - CHECK OF DIVISION OF PLACEPENT AND UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE . . . - . . . . <1 l29v' 13.01 . onooo|q00oouoqn¢uau nuuoaoouoorbuo 131.¢32- ~? 131 131. . 78-a 132 132 133 v- A . _,92. I 131+ w | Y 136 135 '~ W es ' " ¥ ..< 92 » : t~ .- :»L- Q _ X " . v. » A . 1! 1 __.:Z-P 7, 1 .. 1 f _....9292 ' 4 . 1 , ml" _§u v . J. . . . X.M, . . ':~4 ~ ~ J.0 92 _ - -wV >- <1».- >. v. . _. W: 1' §" ..__§,., 1-: AL- 65-166k 4 ; . d~ J"- 1 _~ ~;' r.., -'3A . J II:92" § '92 . 1 n 8 1 ADMINISTRATIVE ' I wt , s. ,. .._. ~. , ~ .1 SURVEILLANCES: - 0»--. v ' A, w .._ e _z.: >5-* ».. * .1.».»yH "P. _. [ii '~ . 41;: 1 Daily checks were madefrom June 28, 1950, through July 18, 1 P 1950, by SA's NICHOLASL. DUNBAR and PETER F. MAXSON to determine Sub- I A ject's presence in Ithaca during this period. Subject s presence was accounted for during this entire time. These spot surveillances re- A N... .. I vealed that Subject was employed in painting the residence of ROBERT W. .4.. .= FARNSWORTH, 112Cascadilla Street. FARNSWORTH, Vice~President, Ithaca '.-.8 ,. Savings Bank, cooperated in furnishing infonnation concerning Subject's J. activities during this period. : 3 . *3 1 Subject was under surveillance in Ithaca from July 19, l95O= . 1 to July 26, 1950. Agents taking tart in this surveillance were r NICHOLAS DUUBAR,L. PETERF. EAXSON, VINCENT M.SHEEHAN BIAKEand I. ¢.4 MOHUEY. Nocontacts, other thah regular business ones, were noted; :g_ f , Subject advised that he was leaving for New York City cn his u 1 vacation on July 26, l95O. He accordingly was surveillcd on this trip on July 26th by SA's JOHND. MAHQHEY and PETER F. MAXSON. He left 92w Ithaca at 10:15 AM and arrived at the residence of his father, NQ DA_" 4 ,3 ' GEORGE SARAHT, 160W. Merrick Road, Baldwin, Long Island, at 8:10 PM. ¢ v .¢ The surveillance was turned over at that time to Agents of the New York Office. No contacts were made by Subject during this trip. He has not yet returned to Ithaca. I -. I 1 1: >2 ' 3. 1 P 5 .é_ '5 ,_ 1- » ii 1' z , ~ 1 r m 79 - * -I F.1- S? 92 ,, I » I - ~ 92~ = D 3 $ »..~. , ,,;92~~ .~.._ . "3 . *""$- ' .r _r*"' '~_a_~ AL "65-166u_ . $.,. __ :v__:. . _ ! _'_17>} _- . : ~.~._,' , s I »DI*/KINISTR!"JI' E IV u 92 *1 x RFVI.E"vI OF BAI'~Ti Z92CCOU1i I'2 1. ~,. A preliminary examination was made of Subjcet's checking . :_ or accbunt with the First National Bank, Ithaca, by SA s PETERG. ROTH f and BLAKE I. HOHHEY. This examination reflects the following depos made by Subject. ' shown under the its --ii Those deposits which have been identified will be - , . _ I column marked "Identity of Deposit". ¢ gate nmroszws A ;@_ l2&§ Amoun§ §ke¢up of Dcposit §c£.*NoL Idcotipy of Deposi§' Oct. 7 $h70.00 Ithaca .1 l r 3 New York ll J, 1 A I -c Oct. J --.2 lh $100 36.50 | - -1"" .*"!... z~ _. Ithaca 20 I 41' u 1 ¢ SO -v< lst H. If I300 New York g ~1 Nov. 6 , 61.50 z"- - 33 OO ' Cash E O0 ,~-. .'1. _I§Y -.110h? 3 1 _-__._- U.S.P.O. OO I; u-".21. 3 185.07 . 1 NYC h O0 3* 7 . SO cf, SO ...o O0 6 . § 50 Jan. 21 35-50 O I 2? 00 4! 00 J em. 21 56.00 0 v lOO0 U.S.P.O. I SO '1 Jan. 30 h5.5O n00 0 35 0 07 5 Money 590 Order on 6 M5 f - 00 4 . § 1 _ , M, " ~;»,r 9,3; -=5_;»* gip - v .1»-== A~- '<. ,~;§@%.a aw. r ' ' . A :'~§e:*' 0 . _ .1 _ , W : W2 W IQ '0- " S ¢" .lJ '¬ 1. > 2 x P ;. _§'< - .F. 1. .4 -1.-...;.;~ .¢- . ~. AL 65-1661» »-..-.;;~'§:,: _-~- x< - . !. ' ADMIl~IIS'1 [email protected] £ ' nu.»- ' . , . 92' . . 1, Daté Amoung Hakg-up of Deposit Ref. No. Identity of DcpQ§it' 19h? Feb. 10 $556.50 1 - 3 :15 50.00 /18.75 . ~ . 1 ~ .. J-15¢ -,2 , ?.:.'z: ' "~ rw&* '92 37.75; - Us ~.> E Bonds 3 Y5.00§ 20 A . 92, , s ~<-._ r , _l A1. O0 ,_,_.4".5 ,1_3"rs -1 F 97? ;4 ' I. 1 -'§_92;92F7ia.-' . 4,- nm.~.._5 " 6o.co D NY 60 O0 Y1 ? VF $1T R Apr? 9 71.00 50 0 '4-¢92 21 0OO O0 . Apr. 22 179.99 =. 179 19 -a 99 Hay" 13 21;. 25 21 u 4 i 3 1 O0 . .~. '3-1 25 WL May 27 5Oh.OO 50$ I h 21 "~ 1 O0 I 5 -1 00 Jun 10 50.00 50 22 * : Jul / T.-.' 3 513.06 13,5 23 .,_»92_ 1:-67 O0 _.<~ 7 21:- ' :~':' 6 6 - Aug. 338.30 25 1 313 I 52 25 26 1 Aug. lh 600.50 539 a50 55 0 27 n 28 hi! 92 0 00 29 80 92 30 Cornell Univ. -n 31 salary check! O 32 CO 33 Cornell Univ. salary check! I cw AL 65-166k -92 1 I»D.I" iII'fI .1 Qatc Amount £221 r ' Aug. $313.80 » . __ 1 _. £1» -_ ._' -5 ; $313-80 1 = - '. " f.-Y qf 1 .» ;, " Sep. 305-59 T L: 3 vn O . . v. - onds _ L ' 92. 7 Q A 1 Scpi 5 . 50.00 .- ' ./ Hake-up of Deposit ' Ref. H0. ldentity of Q§3osi§ . Oct. 313.80 3? . .-. u . ;_ W: - A Oct. 25.00 50.00 Less cash Cornell Univ. . 38 salary check! ' ' Eov . 359-50 313.80 Ithaca ~ . ". I 39 _ - _ * 2 EDT '.. . .i S0.0Q no .L 25.00 Cornell Univ. ' i Hov. 50.00 318.80 kl salary¥checx! . - I Dog. .2 313.80 £6.00 _ 92,= -1- 1 1 #2 Doc. 313.80 I,¢:~ Z =0 l9h8 Cornell salary check! _ Jan. 25.00 Identified as Money . l Cash . 50.00 Order #195061. Village 1 ~ Jan. 358.80 Station, nyc, 9/23/07 » - Ithaca 313.80 ,kh rnmittcd bylQ;§§gL, _ N! P.O. 313.60 92 - 4 Cornell salary check! 25.00 Fob. 50,00 Cornell salary check!§ 313.60 0 . " A . 13" . . A 05.00 u? ' -'15. ., Cornell salary check! . as Identified as M.O. #21151h, Village Sta. ~ NYC, 1/22/n8, remivtcd 50.00 by w. PERL V ~ 0' * <_ -»~<~. .. ~.~-_~.~E ',.f"¥.~ -- ..-:~¢7 v, .-~.-'.-...f .1-. 1., , _ J 6 #9 10u;s<§§An0r .0 ' r? F&".."'"";.:"-§'Fe.+-' ' »§i2 l¢;@{ . - 92_ - - fr-,"?." 1 - '. ' _?~»{r:~.~;, §*< -'&;"';" .» 2 __ 7= J'.;- x ~ ~T* _ W. .-3*-~".;',-»,. .+r- ¢':cf-¬.~..' "--._»_ "5?- i 5 . ,» 1" ....-~=',. ..__ _*- ~1* £~f. I".~ »~- f F.4'5: ...- -' '.*~'~=..1. _ . --' ~'~§' ~.» J. . - -. ~ ; _ - _ ' .,,;: _f Q -1 ._ " ,1-W."-= ""' '= N 0 _ . 0 _ ,.» . 5%~ ~ , I . ' J .0, 65-1661» . ' C. ~ E9 '*0; ,. " 1 .D?=II NISTPJXTIVE Date Amouqg lake-up of___Dcpo§__i_13~|- _I3g_§__.___1f{p_._ I. lQkS FQBQ27 $313780 $313 80 Mar*30 31.3.80 Ithaca . 313 80 1 »PI'. 5 75.00 1 qO0 50 O0 - Apr 26 9n.vo U.S.Truas. 9h n ~ Lpr~28 313.80 313 v70 80 _m;y,28 322.90 322 v Jug 2 21.00 :21 - 90 O0 Jun 9 23-95 0 B . -' 0 50 95 . Q. 0,. _. , 1 uC0 51 -_3_?a rk »* Jun,2B 700.00 Baldwin ,2-TY 100 ;*%?§ " 100 s H 5". . - 52 1:. 4; 100 0Q0 53 » 4 1-7.?! . 200 - Cat-zlcmd., 100 §lg. ';'I -I 1%: ';. OD 3 . - ,, C al . ,». 'r . 3! A 55 < 1 .-:'--.. a" _,rJ_ 1 .}92.._1 ..' JU.l' 8 58?-89 CU _ 322 uOQ Y . CU 211+ 0 56 NY 50 I 57 Q0 ,, -. . Sap 23 3000, O0 Frccport 3000 ~ 58 ;§cnti§y or Depcsif _ Dcc'2 7.1% Cash 3 0O0 1 1 u 59 1 0O0 0 Cornell salary check!f 2 ~ Cornell salary chcck!_ ' 60 92+¢. 99 LOUIS BRANDT ". 61 mm l1§1?»-1.*I2?.'2,,M<= 99 I U0 ..- 62 .-.> Cornell salary chuck! 1:5 O0 53 . ' "92 . ~ ~ _ , 3%,!f 5£§ Q 4 - V 1 0 :7 K 1 x 0 '5. , ' S 5 1 -r~ Date . » Amount .l_9l£2 5 wolf $150.00 $219 '~_'- Less Cash 69 s 0» Mar 2h 155 25 Bends ~ 165 Less Cash 10 .- .0 _u - ~ ~ 1£1 I Apr '1 - .. ~ s .1 . 65-1-661+115 »:5 E bonds ~ {:9 » * ~ 1: 5 @ $21 ."92DI-iIl IIS'I RATIV13 ' " ' '* +1 " ' 3 1 @ 15520.7 5 v Less Cash 5 Make-up of DepositlO580 Ref, Ho; I§0ntitygof Dcposi§ 1.;-E! 5 SO .4 1 130. OO Cash . ' . r _ J .92 - -rs _ May*6 2025 _. ,~92__. 1R0. O0 Y0 a 4 - - E O0 * +- Less Ca ,¢-., , i Qi- May; 25 lO 31+O. S Y1 : 35 0 z g/,2. 323! p . 00 0 l6O. O0 180 2 Jun13 Q T5 j92 2 . 1<4. Jun 16 297 .00 150 OO ._ . -u.; h. l0 4 .1 an 0 f - Jun 27 335 20 O0 3&0 92 Jul 12 370 .00 Cash - 180 O0 Jul 15 352 61 lst Hat O0 73 .- 29? Jul 26 99 00 338 35 7n 1' Lug 2 292 95 ' 00370 75 Aug, ll 93 75 Elmira 00 76 92 NYC 352 : u 20 T7 r 92 9900 I 61 73 292 ¢ ' s *1 00 79 53 0 n E5 95 60 75 81 ,/ I . I ._, ,_ ,1. . if . _- 1 ___¢ g 4- t ~ <. > .q92-'--..- 0 --;v_ .'Z "' 0 __ .~ . 1. . .-.4-.1, q} 2 - 2-'~.»'.-1.;-s ? '_ :""/ s "F1.-'_ .0 92 ;; _:- _ - .. - ~ ''~. ='..w- r.» .' _ Kr {_ N ~ >. >_. *2;*»_ K . r ~ r ~11; ~10 1 »» AL. 65-l66h ~~~.. ,.a, *'-.~ .~<':i_»1 '1 -. '- F1i7_ 3* . .. F. ' .} -1./ A ADMINISTRATIVE . "' * i§:?@_,1.- é ann- . Amou'n§_ §I_c;ke-up,1...--- 01° 1909 -__.__.- Aug.17 $3#9-39 $359- Less *' 10. Aug 178.99 178. Less 13. Aug 185.00 Less l98. Aug 153.05 -_ " 13.1 . . ..~'u .'-~ =,5 - is »;i _ .-. ~ ~-v <3-~ ." _~:--.1.- , -. .. Less . , . > , _ ' -r-~. ~ av _ Q ._ - 020.00 163. 89 '*1 1' r. we '10. Less . 00 8.1; 378.23 #06. ,,-__ 2 . Sep~ 517.82 26.99 .Y§* -- 5 Cash 99 378. _v 1. =_',0 _-,. I. _ . H <~ T F . .6. Sep 518-90 30 . _ . _ .-_._ ',__; _- .. - ~= $.46 Deposit30 ' Bef. N0. Ide§§1#y of Depos§§ '5 ~ Oneonta 225. Oc"e, 32k.6h 05 . ,"'1-. .", O 288. 33 -."- __ "1". " 1, _ - O0 ~ . -~.92 .. '1 .:. Less _ _ .1'~. 1 i Oct . -. . . '. 388. u " . - _'"~r'-.-~.- 70 Bk .6. # Oct I #91-35 Tomp Cty 11. YO 1 Oct 35 924- 507. '92 2 500.00 T.C. K5 L ' Oct 23 1 86 ~ 300.00 33h. O0 <-: .. 10. 37 - v 1 368. 62 88 R91. 20 0 I 59 n . -: .. £735 E ' @ f.a 5! -r 1 92 A L I . AL 65-166k I 1 w =1 I ADMIIIISTRATIVE Date 1252 Amount Make ""PL_u" c" Denosit , B§:f.W}Io._ Ide_r1_t13§_y of Depqsig Nov 9 $1!-30. 00 ' ~ $130 00 Nov 15 282.00 282 00 I-Iov 18 203.60 TC Trust .179 lst N. 23 85 Nov 25 368.10 368 H 98 _e Now 30 200.00 200 75 99 Dec 7 h38.h0 I133 100 Dec.~ 23 223.86 NYC 228 ho 101 1950 J0.n 9.. 225.98 225 00 102 Jan'l7 85.17 85 #0 103 Jan 25 33.00 33 86 10% Jan 31 67.70 67 105 98 Feb 3 250.00 250. 106 17 Feb 28 500.00 500 00 107 Apr 13 95-00 95 106 Apr 19 93.00 98 70 109 Apr 27 161.22 161 00 00 110 00 Loan from bank 00 Transfer from savings 22 Ill 112 .» . 5* r - 5 O3 Q - AL 65;166h , Date 92 s ' w 122? 'f 4 Apr, ADMHIISTRATIVE . _ . May 11 Amount Make-up of Deposit Reg: No lqoptity of Dgpo§1§ May 22 May 25 $ 61.00 $ 61.00 J13 i Jun 1 100.00 100.00 llh Jun 5 309.60 mzc . 319.60 . Jun 6 Q 3353-25 3353-25 ' L15 Jun 7 Ithaca Savings Bk. 57.62 57.62 . 116 Ithaca Jun 12 166.85 156.85 137 J un =3 1 h0.00 113 Jul 300.00 28 35.70 TC Trust '35-Y0 Jul 119 92 3 150.00 150.00 120- S ,3hl.OO 3hl.OQ 121 11 '1 150.00 150.00 * . -!9 -X -7% An :*.-n:.1l by SARANT: ysis of the above reflects the following yearly deposits Year 19h?l9h6 1903 sf ; . - 0 0; ~ A . -.1 _,. 1 . AL .65-1662 92 ' ' - ADMINISTRATIVE - as 3 - -1 0 ._ 44 . Z ~ .92 "'1 ~§1 a ._>¢ - t» ~ is[- ...t XI- _ ._Q., l- - W-2 Forms witholding statements! located in the search of _ , .v the . .-'&* .' ,. -. Sub5ect's residence show the following salary earnings for Subject; 1 .,-.,, - Y! is noted that these figures may not be a composite of all earnings. v 2 * svz - ' Year 3;; . 7' 19th It '1 Y! l9h5 -4 l9k6 Eerning>_;_s h0.T9 92 03.09 19%? 10. 65 J _ 607 .08 I l9k8 33532 ¢ . - Tot 0.1 $l5,09'r.'+0 It will be noted from the review of deposits that on June l, l9hO, Subject made adeposit of $3,353.25. This deposit was identified as follows . r * " Confidential Informant T-5, of known reliability, advised that 92 on May 31, 1950, the Ithaca Savings Bank loaned SARANT $6000. on o mortgage on his home. Proceeds were disbursed by the bank's checks drawn on the Tompkins... . Courtv J Trust. 1* Cononny, It acn L _ , P 0.yible ¢- 4' to QLFRED andLOUISE _~"_.~_"D "ARAN@ . and were endorsed by Subject to others as follows: '92 Check 12'1"?-l'.'71to nonmc .*.'§;.1t".nT retire previous to $2,626.35 mortgage! ' Check #11772 to J. v.»-Bo'Youcos attorney! " 2o.h0 92. = Check #11773to.First National Bonk _ 31353.25 Confidential Informant T-6, of known reliability, advised that the proceeds of Check #llT73 were applied to the purchase of a Cashier s ~Chcck at the First National Bonk. On the some date of the deposit, SARANT bought a Cashier's Checkin the amount of $3,200¢, #hlO80, poyeblc to . BELLE H,r£KVIUE,92 who depositedit at the First Trust &-DepositCompany, Syracuse, New York. -I ' Several hundred cancelled checks drawn on SubJcct s account at t the First National Bank, Ithaca, were obtained during the search of his Q residence. An analysis is presently being made of these items 0 I K . , ft 0 J n 0 " l 1/Q I vs. I-1L 65-1661+. " 4. AL 65-16_61+, ADMI§ISTF.AT IVE ' ;. 2 gptr, A cm; RE¬ORDS: v Confidential Informant T-3, of known reliability, furnished the following record of long distance cells placed from Subjcct's telephone, Ithaca T-£66. These are in addition to calls set forth in previous report. 'Place dC411 S V~ ~ l 922% - Typo of Cell .~ c 9/23/he Person to Person NYC, Buckminster h-hlh A B'E l"I Y_ ,SANDERS Brooklyn! a 9/25/k9 Station to Station =Boldvin L. I. 3»?7S3 10/ 27/149 Station to Station Baldwin, L.I. 3-7783 Person to Person 10/27/#91 . NYC, Oregon h-0802 ARTIZU"_5'._SQUQ§[1I,A Grantl Street500 V 7/8/50 Station to Station NYC, Oregon h-0802 1/9/so Station to Station NYC, Oregon h-0802 7/1!»/50 Collect From Mrs. SARANT, NYC, Oregon 3-0302 It is indicated that on July ll, 1950, a telegram wes_scnt from this telephone to New York.City. ' Confidential Informant T-R, of known reliability, advised that this telegram was addressed to Mrs. ARTHUR~BOUDIN, 500A Grand Street, New York City, and read as follows: _ "ARRIVE SIX O"CLOCK STANDARDTIM]. MEET US HZHD STREET ENTRANCE GRAED CENTRAL STATION. "PUSSY h - 39 - we 5 ~5~ , 1~ ,4*§? 7 /6 70/3 AL 65~166u - ' 4 192DMII ¬1'STRATIVE ~ 1 I-'k".I.[; COVER: ' Listed below are the results of a mail cover placed on Subject throuzh the Ithaca Post Office, covering-the period June 28, 1950 to July »~ u. 2h,*l95O. This cover is in addition to information previously submitted 7 during the course of this investigation. . _ y Frma: ' . P0§tm§§k Doha: Addreseci To: 1 6/27/50 6/29/50 .< 1. A 1 SAP-1 .I-{'1' E. E,fLYUN, lh3.E. State, Ithaca, HY 6/29/50 " lst Natl. Bank, Ithaca, HY 7/l/50 " Montgomery & ward, Ithaca, NY 7/1/50 " National Guardian Paper No date " B & H Oil Compahy, Ithaca, HY 7/3/50 ll Office of Internal R-avenue, Syracuse, IFY 7/3/50 " lst Natl. Bank, Ithaca 7/H/50 " -f ¬o-op Society' Ho date " '3hnnDe, HYC, 25 E. 77th st. 7/10/50 " National Guardian " . Montgomery & Ward, Ithaca, HY - 7/13/50 II Scars Roebuck, Philadelphia, Pa; , 7/1h/50 " 12:4:-m 121. ,-";Ij§:m, Ithaca, rm - T/18/50 ll Ha;i9nal Guardian Paper 7/19/50 " B,/oANDERS, 6 Pottersvillc, NY ~ 7/21/50 " Montgomery & war , Albany, NY 4 7/eh/"0 " National Guardian Paper - 99 - Q, _ . . . in ' -' 0 6! a * i s " :_ ; , . 92it . . 92=- I ¢ v AI: 65" f-¢ 1 ¢ 1 J!MIIIIS'I'R1-KT IVE u FESIJLTS OFSEARCH: _ l ~ During the course of the interview of the Subject on July 19, 1950, he execu.terl 2. waive:-1'search of authorizizig Agents JOHII D. M.*.HOI-TEY and PETEJR F. MAXSOZ-I to conduct o. search of his home at Cayuga. Heights * Road, RD #1, Ithaca, New '. or .:.The search began in his presence and con- tinued until 8:20 PI-I at which time the Subject had to leave for 0. short ;>.;r:*.od of time with Mrs. W. BRUCE D?'.YTOI-I,next door his neighbor. Prior to his les.ving, the Subject signed 0. second waiver of search dated July 19, 1950,autliorizing SpecialAgents [email protected] PAULoral R.BIBLER to particiypate in the search of his premises. I11: search was continued at 9:00 PM and was completed at 2:05 [.111 onJuly 20, 1950. i During the course of this search, the follow-ring material was obtained and o. carbon copy of 0. receipt was given to the Subject, which he signed. _ .! 1 small address book, which was located by SA PETER F.LXAXSOI-I. if. _ This o.d_d:.~ess book was located in an old wallet in the dos!»: d.re.we:'his of study. The following srldresses and nu'nbe1s o.pyc~:~.rin this book. The names, addresses and telephone nvmbers will be listed as they appear in this address book. The Subject has not as yet been questioned eoneezming; the individual items in the notebook, but Subgk:-ct's wifehas been questioned. and her conments 1-rill appear after each item. Item Qomzezitzby tqirfs ._ _S.£._?U__§.II £' Payments to FIGS iirs. SARAIIT advised. that ITGS is ' Sub,ject*s father , H01-.TDf. GI-".0RGE_ S."J31.I'I'l , and that had bcrzrowed money from 111:1. -1.26 35 st. No information Ex 3.61, '.~ic .s11ington, D.C. v - 12 21+ 5Q 100 Mrs. smmr advised these figures 20 23 26 29 and telephone nunzber meannothizzg ;~!A- 5-3636; to her 62. 50 . -91- _._,.N4-»='r .'-~s-...¢ . .u--, _ _.T',_:,~ .;- . 2=V, '~~.. 1 #.: 1- ___T_1__ _ ~....:.-,/-.,._..... W -: at _ Q53. "3""~.-.." .=-__ _ A-. i "-=-"f __ M :"'=~ #' '"-~ " ii. "»-"~ =»=-*,- - "-1 " , § a = 6" /&92 $;r - 1 . z-=1 92 . ." i '0u 1 - B AL< 65-166%. . ,M ~ . 1% . _ 92 , ADMINISTRATIVE Item ' On the back of the I ~ lst page is written: C@@ ?§§bY§2E-t;*§F3 ~ ' . N ,g¬ AvmA L0 3~3h59 1. 292 Sta A .~ -.1 Ho information ~ ~ On Pag§_g: BR. Poly. - A * Tr 5-6920 Q Weber ' Tr 5-6371 Mrs. SARAET advised that this appears to be Brooklyn P~lytechnic*Institute, - Penn Pe 1 but she did not know the'§EBER » 6-5600 referred to. a ~ SQLkG§EENBERG N0 infnrmatirn "Fed. Bo. an 9-3600 x 609 No infatuation Greenwich House Music Sch. Telephone nuber CH 2-R770 Mrs. SARANT_eaid that AL took guitar ' GEQRGE lessons there at one time. ll6_WestMerrick Rd¢ Mrs. SARANT stated that this is -ALFRED's brother,GEORGE." _ HUDSON LAUN. 106 Bank Mrs. SARANT stated that this is probably 4 WA 9-3733 the Hudson Laundry and that AL probably used this laundry. Gnd. - Cent. MU 6_91o0 No information ' ' %§§IE ! - BA 7-6500 No information 0 a 92 - b -. ' ~n , . Q»? F .1 Q .. I ; .=.*"': . -¥ 4 13". : Q 7 ' ' I AL 65-166k t, . _ . .- »'..»..~;t_ __ ; - : E. _ . . _ ,_ u 4 , ._.u.....:92"_ _ " > J > * 1 -I-. .3 » . .. . V :1 '4., <. . ' >Item ' - - _ _A¥ ZHE5??éTEV¥ - 92 , H Y Q 7 555537 y _ _ 5695A? Qomment by M?$- SARLET ~ o- . = -_ L... '..'..2.» _ 92¥ "1 _.. ",; , Super WA . No infonnation . I15; ~ . ' 5~203T 4 Mrs. SARAHT stated that she did not 1 _ ' know, but she believed that this may ,1§fbAu &/Kin been the nmnbcr to call the superin- , 72 Carmine .» tendent of the apartment at 65 Morton St."} »~. .~ - v" ~ SS Humber » 053-19-1998 Ho information - 4 F»? 1 5; ; i BU h-066k *1! v92 No information * " . cu 6-5600 ? . X 23h 2 , 4 x ihere was no information No information . set out on the reverse s 92 ' side of the 2nd page. On Page §: V 0 92 i SYLVIA "5- . Randolph320 Cent. PKW Ho information SC R-3768 - 1 . BOUD II ! WA 9~3T82 9 Gay St. Mrs. SARANT stated that this refers to her friends, ARTHUR and-HURIEL BOUDIH- of New York City. Further information concerning the BOUDINS will be set out under another heading. FREYDArU5VER » N0 information 226East 12th F » 10 J r I an 7-ch50 r '93 *~ . _ _ .,,.,. 0 ._ ~ ~ A , ,.. ' . 1 _,_ ' 1 ~ r . 6 ~ . P Z 3 Y A -> ;. . ,. . -. 'Q. *3 '4 ->4 » I; . < 4 » . » AL 65-166k ,< . . 92! , <1.4 ,,_ r .1 4 , , 1?JZ i-1l?'ZIST°92_;. TIVE '~ Item ' _---p- , . _/ .SID GORD II»! Corranent by Mrs. . ~2[=.'.'{-f.YZT "~ L108 lfftiz I-Ire . . Top floor near 12th St. Mrs. S1JL* a.Y.'-!'i Jsnirl that this indiviclual, f 1-rhom sh-;:met only once, is a. friend of § i ' I-..Ivi. 13.8 her husband who is an Prtist and who ' attended. Cooper Union. . Wash. Pl. CH 2-8661 MO 2-7551 No i_nfo1:11a."tion .; I _ 92 / ALIX/Ir! ," 1 I .. IMS9 A _ I 'ELong 3, Beach Mrs. SARMJTstated that ALIX is a. nick-V name of f.LFR]'LTI- s sister,EL}_~3§f§B§". JAl§C_>_1L,___ who res"i!l£:6. at that address. _ . 1 '86 I~7.=3.5.iSO1 1A -'2. A.uu.3-2693 T¢1 @msv0nos Mrs. S1.R1 ~l~i'I stated "that he is a friend of her husband BETTY snnnmns 4 c/0 SCHLEHGER 1186 E. 19 A Mrs. SAR." I'l stated that this is a former > B!-tin. HA 8-8290 address of her friend, BE'l I Y SAHDERS. Information cor-term 11:"; BE'l"l [_S1 .I"U!E .RS will he set out in more dc.-tail under another V A GERTA @ULDNERTt1< ::1ding. ' 85Barrow St. Mrs. S1 -.PJ'92i! I'ad"=r"ised' that GERTA GOLDHER. 65 . was an old. girlfricnci of her husband and: wn 5-2112~J that this address is near 65 Morton St. NYC. ' SOLVIEQLKESLIE - . 12h East Mrs. SZRMIT stated tint this an o.'1C92'gir.1.- lhétn st. f'£'1'.Z EY1her husband, of whom she has never met. > FHX mcr 9-7u08 TC'I~§Y» 21.30 T" v;."~.=>n1;-'92 IG. No information 5 TA 9~8i93 MU 5-713% 4- -94.. ~ 1 1 » - 5 Y ¬! : » ; . - B . . I ¢ - $- . 1 _ 0 » r 92-V __ - $3,! AL 65-1661+ . - , > S" ~r.-I - 4~"'Z7 A.0:--1:msTRm?1vE * A." .~. _-¢-_--¢~.n ..' ' v Item 50,»,L_ , '2 ; {him Y 1090 1.61 ~ v F0 5- +226 §9 '*'?°13j*';,'°Fr'_ 1, *5'=i=_».S1 -5- i~I ITP_ _ _.» $ ' BE£; SZL1PLi i[» Ho inrnrmztian ' .Y¢ * - JE 8-13L:7 I .[,J1EHER _3?6 W.25 N0 information LO 5-70%-2 Thcrc is no written infor- ;mation on the back of this :13ri page. 21.k _a_'- i JTJf,T. rGf'TOF§EY 22§5 Park Ave. N:'!:'*.-I005;C-him 12, AS'1.'.=,R 205 H. 105 1 . ' _ *! NY ' AL -'.?l¢69 N0 - Q + . . 4 .. Lt . J . in ,<~ GUIDE» n U.S.S. Franklin FPO San Fran" BERNIE ' G1 -RFIIFZGIL Dickens 6-5779 No information BF.T1DI1?_[I .~=, ' @550C-tu:1_ _! Shows APO lh305 Mrs. SARLRT stated that this is an » ' 10PM 011 girlfriend_cf h¢: husband, wham Ar S.F. Cal. she met uR¢¢- ¢ . Hrs. _ SIEMQT<1 ssated that this indivi ual is "1-mmni fduum,0. frimld. of he':E1 ;,[; ,qy,-;.,,,§D~| husband. ' - ' Q O ! <; . 1 . !~ '~ a 1 u v.92 . AL 65-166a ." . 1- % ?~ -- Q ~ ADMINISTP.ATIV'E ._ f » _ Q Q Q - - Q- Q 92. 1-" . '0 Y l ' . v * . 1 _.~.. 1 . , . cem .- Commen¥.by Fr§:SARAQQ " ['0'-,. BTLEIdE£S92.1f;'-; . No infcrmation ;-' I? 1 d 70 _."~." Pov~am ~.-."'i;¬ Av TAq~ -_. 8 @836;.._ - PUSS~RGSSAI TFI".I> 92'I.'T I. AS No information - '" LQ_ay~. 60 Horton St. 1 ' WAL132. 5~3686O1920 - This is Mrs. SARANT, of 60 Morton st. f w l 1-rzc 2 ,,_/!§'£-": :iZI. 92 . T59 West End Ave. RI Q~l272 I-hrs. smnwr said tr»:-ntthis is another I or GR 5--8265 old girlfriend of her husbani. ' {:T]LEiE i5!L.ER AL1+-6500 No information . H l rpus 1nd1st1ngu"sh¢bleI 0_ - 92 . In= 11» '>':'> w J0 zntovmatlon 1 F1 -Q5. 3-9 g.-'4. ' P"' ~ 262 Th s re 1 no lnfOrm3tlC wrltten on the revers= - _ ' ' n s1 de. _ of page H 0 Fizz - ' 92¢ 95 lll field Ct Bcllslzcok hrs SARA;T adv¢s@d taat this is her . _ _ _ . Wamnstnad nusband s brother I . ll; .'.' A N I W 3,I England ' ¥ - o 0 r I AL 65 I65h | z -6 92 v -In .___ _ _,_/ ,3Item . _.'~ ,BILL QHIC ADMINIS¢RATIVE . . -U.S. Havy -¢------Navy 717 z v San Fran. Q8;- Qommenf_§§ Mjs. SARQHT In s roxt word Mrs. SAR NT afvised that this refers y iudistinguishableBea": :1cl;s to her husbanG s brother, WILLIAM SARANT Corp. ¢ /<1FPO - 98-Court St. "I R HELEN é. Ho-information =No information ap _ the rcvarside of 9.=L?.'1_?$. 2__§ L pears on 1¥J,T.'£3702Page 5 W: Magnolia This is another address for ELECTRA_ Blvd. J;~.YSON ' '" Burbank,Calif. 2nd Li. ' R . "' f'J;92I<;".1T'l' Mfs. snfuifr said that this is an O hlé address of SARL T'S brother. P/W M X Det , lliis . ETO < Al"! LL13 c/0 PM, On the reverside of Page 6: - w L. L. A. No information , _ 280 Woodland St. Eng 3-0051 »- 9?- = o AL 65-166k 0 Item . ""- .» .On Page 1. -* *PM?E §s'¬R 5TP 2 _ t x Q 1L. L. A. 200 Tryon ' Englewood Comment by Hrs. $ABAHI £ N.V. Eng vr I 3-9959 1 -i . 92 A /Q . Ho information 'i- CLARE/SHEER . n - | 1150 4 ~, .G.C. A o Mrs. SARANT believes that this is some- ~ 6B one whom her husband knew or worked with __ JE 6~1203 at Western Electric Stop watch h1766h76 1 . X "No information appears No information @on reverse side of Page 7 1 I: P ge 8: EDITH'WINTER > 90122nd Ave. No information N. Bergen, N.J. y Lt. B. c.~LEw1s Mrs. SARANT stated that this is her USNR ' husband's friend "BEN LEwIS with whom he lived in New Jersey at one time. ~FAETV - Par Ho information < Beams Field San Ysidro Q - Pgge 9: - DAB~SHAPIRO ' No information cu 3-8133 72 Carmine J u - 98 - . _ ~ , .. _; ___> :2 -31,» < -~_.-_ - . .r *- .. . .,_:'. wr X . . >. ,-~:w- - _;.=-_.ff_'_ . . j'._,_f,.r --_ .»&..'_ Ma. - ~_, - ¢ -'.. ./.92.,,~,.f, ,._ ,2e. . . . , r .. . 9. -. ' ¢. _ < ~».v . If , . ' . F . t ' i. * ' 5'" - . . .,' .3; -3 4 _ . .=._ ¢ ' Y~='.'. _.5¢.§ .., :_~;-.» .-.__ - '3 ,_~ 3__ . . 1 v , ' .~_--' ."vY'." . .. ' . if», 3.1 . . 5_ 3'2 .1 "A' J . ...I , -. x »- 1- _ _ - ,-92 .- . . . . v -_ ~ »--1;.-1'; >:'~-,~»< ,, .- - ., ¢ ._ U _. <¬ 92 4%.: qf '1 4 |'~'¢'._E 1 _.~,_}. . _ -' _ " A V. _ :~ .».92' . . ... mfg." .. __._ E »r ..~ ~,. .92 .. '..Z '~ ~~ . - .v "-""h-.~.. L _ . V -._,~ » ._-, 92 : _$ ~. . , §, '4. X L I -r'>"5.>'.> '3 "$1 ; ~ 92'..~' ._. < .~. '. ,. 1 . 39!;}-. --.,» ,-- .». ~~.~"." :~ ..,1_ -.-~. .-'1 . . sf? .. 1'.-_.~. _ . , 92.:~;, , __"' __Z ~ . ._.. .I Z'§ . ,..r._ . J-. --"~.':. . if.3 . 2;, 517* _. - "»<~g-'.'»_".'- ; -:.=92.~' _..; ~. '1 'AL 'es-1661+ "5 . 1!~.>_f'. r,.. z- .7. t." {;;',' 3? 4" - I: -> I SJ .- .';_f-.=. .'> .'~;' _ .'.4.-~ -<~ ..»...- '4' -~51 4. I- 'ADMINISTRATIVE . x .<*. _»».~ 1,, pn- --cw-Q-n . .2 ' . . .1 ..92 . r, -':~ ' » .-'- " - 1* -:.-*i'= I/*1 --:- , :- .v- 1 . :~ »-rs ~ " .1 . .. : .11-"$5..-; ._.. * Item - Conment by Mrs. SABAH1~ ._;.,~..,,,> A .- .- _; 3 , s - 1 I » i . 92 ~ _ _{:. 1:. .,. . . -1.,_-1: , ._:_ _.~_._,._. J _. . 1 .-'6 um <. . ;.I.; . .' , . - ' V '¢ _..¢.,,_. H-" 1 ~ v . ~<.;.~. - ._:. ». .~_,.. . -=~ _. _ u» s . ..92_ _' ~- .»-*..-- _ >, 0..-e - :,*... x 1., 1:,-._ ..-;.~~t ' ~ .19.», On reverse si de of Page 9: _ .~. .> e*'.:wM4» .. "U-I ~ ¢ A1 ~ . .r_. A. m S'.E~; ' K 2 d No information . '¢ ,- . JQE/~§JL ! 92 4 x-. . '. ,.,¢n-__h 95 Columbus Iv V" ~ V1" 1 ~*. . .4 ."t.'<'4 ,- 3o1+6-M - - . > - J ;.I. * 1 X . - I!-..»-4,.I ..§4 I . 1 >-@595 , .t 92 . - -.» ., 2 > _--__ '.4. 92 92 ' .'- ._' " I . Mre;/.svLL1vm~z No information e __ E »< ~,»'1_ n: - 92.»..' L .1 .. 1! K--S H ll Smith r .0. __,_._; .-x. , ,.._, =-_- *._.»c __ ~g_ 4' ., .-;-- rr. -<~..-~: . . I; _ ,. _.: I-W ? *.: >1 No information .4- / ; m.RRY" 1 MN . . , . . S01 First Ave . . -_. a92..n . __;. '~Asbury Park . ,_. .~ " 4 2 CQ 5-7339 n - - . ¢-. ".. Y". ' * -1* -I -I- * , -< .9 . '?.J.f% r: C. - ~ .»a*-7'4 . 1* .»<.;- -The second item obtained on this date were 26 check book stubs.-V .- :_ .! , .. v .92 ,.J : '-. . E I. ..-1- 5, Thesehave not been analyzed as yet.! .* '- 2-_ - . |___ 1 11" . -II A First National Bank folder, Ithaca, N.Y.,;with several deposit slip S 0 . ._ <. : e l+.! First National Bank, Ithaca, N.Y. deposit book. _ - _ . V 2 t _.~._ J » 92 -.: ll Bank Statements with cancelled checks. ~ . -Ii ,. 1. -'4 !c. These have not bcen.ennlyzed as yet.! ' ~ .. mu 1 .! 1 Bee Bee Camera Lens #793584 0 " 92 .u" . 1 Information concerning this item has been set out in the details , I of this report.! v ¢ *A _,.v r .;*" .! A Duplicate Money Receipt Book #28701 . , < H . . ., 5 -. This book, according to the Subject, was used by him as Treasurer ~ 1 .. 31'. Of the committee of the WALLACE for President Campaign in 1948. It contains ~ ., . ..-.. the names of individuals in the Ithaca, N.Y. area. -92 92 *, - ~*:.!'v * :1 ?-~ - . et5 A.- " 99 ;._.- 1*.! 0 ~ . I " 1.».' -P 1 . 1. 1' ' ,._ -_ , . . _ Z t ;. .-- t 2.;__ t :_ , .-.- QM . -=. .. ~' , _ ;. 1 ." ¢ _. 2.»! *. '_ _.. : .2 ' ~_ g--! -' , '_w' 4 -2? . . l . ' ~. . 92_; .-1'_J _-; l-._ _ . , . ,, , 1" _ ~ ' _ = " ~ .;.i ~i >... - , -' - _ '3 ..~.--'7':-33" ,_ ~»,r ¢-£ " ".$..1 - 1 » ,, _- Fr-" -.e.=:e=92. iv! metaiaw> .. .'<" ¢,; = 1»; . ' ' - " f """ :ix :..» 2 u 5 , '92,~! ; 92-. I ~ 1 > L .: . , __ M» ,.-,.,1'? . 1 ' 1'. .-- .' ,¢<. _! 1-Y. <11 1 1 lsaf -Q. *~ i~: Q, 5;,".4. , _. ; V - -- <;-a .»-'<. , . '4 .5 .1 ., T P; K ~~nu* n1, '65-lest _ ; g -. _ _ . , , st ' - = *4§ r ,< E A ADMINISTRATIVE _* 1 ,2 ._. .. ., A 3 __ur_Q_t _ . * A}, ¢_ . -..92 ,- . . :- , .'. »';,, 92'_ Q » '1--1'. _ .. - .-1 ~d." Q.. ~ I. .- .-.>;s ..;: ;_~ *_92,.~5 . 8.! A book entitled. "mono 1-mvt TxmrsmsslouDESIGN DATA"by SPERHY ». .,_~ . ,'- a" " ' .,.$.. - fSeri=1l{,'-#961». n _ ' it .- , ..1 v ~I . ,2 it _| F K? é Information concerning thisitem hasbeen setout in the details_ »..=n_ - .. .;92.,..,. ,. -of this report. A" -J,";4§1. I. ;, Y j'-. -' :.». 9.! Ten miscellaneous photographs as follows: I 92 m r .*f.e , . __IRIS BARR ' r . Photo of Subject and GLAQX§_ EXE . s ~ Photo of ALFRED SARANT } . 135 mm. photo containing 3 pictures, 2 of thcm ' 92 1 being theof Subject g § 1 " Photo of Subject, his wife, and i uINESTONE 4 | 5 Photo of St-.RAN'l"s wife +' . Photo of JOEL BARR and.VIVIAN_GLn$SMn ' - 1 Photo of JOEL BARR V , , Y 1» Photo of an indivicluol named EARI~:,' OBIHSON Photo of vIvLm cmssM.'.N " _ 92 1 ' o.!Passengermade receiptin the outname PHlLIP}QgRRISON, of '1 #1229, issued by the Robinson Airlines Corp. dated March 7, 1959, from Ithaca, N.Y.to New York City." ' f Subject couldnot explain how this receipt happenedto be among his effects. ' It should be noted that PHILIP MORRISONis a nuclear physicist 1 connected with the Atomic Energy Commission. He is presently a professor at Cornell University. . , 1 _ . <. 1.! A calling card. of zwwozgx/sznwzovrsxx, Director,Polish Researchand __ Information Service, 250 west 57th Street, New York 19, New York, -}~ telephone Columbus5-2132. ' - A . ti D Subject advised that he knewnothing concerning this individual _ v and_cou1d nut explain huw his coiling enrd hnpp n d to bu nmnne his effects, w I ._]_QQ. UV Q * Q4 x. .=».¢.-2 ; ¬ $1 ; ii I I . v _. , 3, . '-L< c . 92 -, A J .. , » . _ ,_ W:2. 3 K >92 _ w » , ,:5 II I . _ . __:..41 s. ii 92 - » 14 a. 1 92 =4 .1 i . k , 1. X ,_'L '1e AL 65-1661+ -1 ,__..,,; : ;-'-,.,,1;-~= .. '-¢~_--4---up ADMINISTRATIVE I A r ~. . "__ , ~ wi- '.n . I : . »_92 ..Y_g_ $ The Bureauby letter dated July28 , 1950,furnished a.copy ofthe - _ reportentitled of SA WILBURSZYl'IA.NOwSKI,=?-RC1 "Id-JTOIJIJ. X-IEISKIRC '.dated l/7/Q8 at San Franciscoo copyof inthe the 1'¢- case _ 1 _';;_,:,I .-.32".<51 [79 port ofJAMES LEE, P. datedA 25_5o at HowYork Cityin the case entitledtr. ;;.; H "AHIOHI_SZYM§HOwSKI,.aka AnthonjKSzymenowski." .4 . ~e:.92 i~ = Sen Franciscoreport reflects that SZYPIAI -IOWSKIwasin Sen Fren- Qt . eisco inDecember 191+? of andwasin contact with kno1.m E 91'*?Y57¢ _'_ ~- sylnpathizers in the publicity and educational fields while there. ." . ', - x_ *~ ~ . New York report reflects that SZYI~L 92NOwSKIborn August was 21+, .= . - 1,¢ s 191% at Warsaw, Poland, and was :1 member of the Reserve Officers Polish 1 , . , -. .13 . Army since 1937. He was described by informants as 100% Pole, gentlemen, .- and verjintelligent. Also described as esympathizer but nota b7¢ ll ;.,m~ as Party member A l2.! l Calling card ofthe AssociatedRecording Studios,with thefollow-» " .< ing information on the card: _ . <1 H Studio and Portable Facilities. Specialists in Concert .. records. 1625 Broadway, New Yorl-1 19, I-1.1 . Columbus 5-9059." .N:.1me NATSCHIIAPF appeared on the card.! - Subject statedthat rm? -__s6z11~mPFwas <1fellow withwhom howorked * at one time and who went into the Associated Recording Studios to work and _ who gave him this card so that he, SLRAI-IT, could direct business to SCHNAPF. l3.! A sheet oi paper beginning "ll-.22. magnets whole strength fr,!" ' problems Subject stated tbet Professor HANS BETHEgave him several to do at home and he recommended several books to him to study. He was not sure that this was one of the problems that BET!-IE gave to him. C, _ ll+.! A5-pegetletter datedOctober 191%-9,1+, signod7."§1lLC - Subject stated um this letter is from BETTY SANDEPSand was ' directed to his wife. The letter described in detail the riots at Peek- skill, New York, in l9l+9. A phu1;f'»p ,J. . [1h ir .copy of this lemor has been ~ L furni.shnd to the X-few York 0i"f.'i,ce. - .= , U ._ -lOl- -, , __ . r _ I éét '1 . 112, ' ",1~ " . up ~t __. ,,,;g_. ~ l 1. -z;- 1+ r 7 ._ .- ' iii . . . 92 1 ~ 3;=r ;-v.-,'~_92 -- Q ._,,y . _.~"~. + ~ 2» :- . --2 ;.. ' - 1 .v_. !' s... It " s .. _.-n. 1 7'. . I: K : k - .3 s ' .'; v ._q "' . X ; - M1 "Y At 65-166k _- ~ g-'ii .. _ ~922 c.92.~.;, ADMINISTRATIVE r :~ , - F;xe ~¢;» 1 3 -F"-, . .. ~ l5.! A mimeographedmap ofBoston showingCambridge, Mass.and Bldg.#2b,.' 4 s ;. Headquartersof the Radiation Laboratory,with the initials R.P. Mc in ~92 V 9/17/#2,_. in the lower right hand corner, and a second mnp<$ Masso-___ , A -'1 w .. .~ chusetts Institute of Technology. n." -A j ~..-1 3 . . w u -1' -. X - Subject stated that he received these maps from_Lt, J._Q.MQUIQA,, g .eu who was studying there and who at one time asked him to visit him there _i~% ; and sent the enclosed mops for his guidance. * .> 3 is ~:..:5.-_¢ v 6.! V 5 letters of correspondencebetween SARANTand 65 Morton Street f4: . /~ bx f .Realty Corp., information about which has been set forth under the I I. caption "65 MORTON STREET,NEW YORKCITY" in the details. ~ I -'1 5' - . 1 1 3 r ~< 7.! 6 letters from WILLIAM PERLto the Subject and his wife and to JOEL Q, E 1 BARR, information concerning which hos been sot forth in the details of this report. ; K _ . ~< l8.! A letter addressed theto subjectfrom E.HARVE{kSEbHS. 9 . 4- 2 'The letter is of a personal nature end the Sdbject stated that . v he at one time roomed with SACHS in New Jersey when they worked at Western Electric. h 1 r l9.! A letter dated December 21, l9h8, addressed "Dear PUSS andAL," and ; -v signed "IRIS." f 1 ~. A7 Subject stated that this letter was from IRIS BARR, JOEL BARR's sister, and contained the address of JOEL BARR'inEurope. Information } a about this letter has been set forth in the details of the report. 92 Q . ;..»_.,. o.! A ribbon with the following words on the front of it: "Open . Y : western Front Now." On the reverse side of the ribbon, written in .- L ink, is the following: '*Sclud Comradeto PUSS, C.B." ' " } . 92¢5 0 '1.» ' Subject stated that this was his wife'sribbon. He denied . ' $3 knowing whether his wife wns n member of the nmmnnint Party or nnb. . Q». ~ .' . 1 .,;, '- Pf?, _ A J ~ < 9 1. . -lo?!-' ~92 ~ '* . ~ y. ~. ., * . ~ x ~ - _ -1-er, . 4- . I _> i '1: s V 0 . o 5- ;e s »-v ,~ -~:..~ " 1 .5 . .. 92 P ~ ' +_" 3 . v, 1 1 s. _ .1 :- - -1 .5x Y J 4,. ¢ . ', V. AL 65-166k " rib '-1 Q I "; a, * _ ' ADMINISTRATIVE il- Q,-Qu--on ' _., 1 . :- ¢ vs: .-4 r l.! A postcard addressed to the Subject, postmarked January l , l9k9 _¢ . at Schenectady, New York. Return address: c/o Dr. E. éé h A c , Arlington, Vt. ' ' b Q I ~ A * 9~. The Subject stated that this card was from J. A._QQ§QA, Whom _ .~.'3' he has known for many years. It is set out as follows" v 1 .5-4 v "12 Jan 39 A I "Dear AL, . Q , .1 ¥ 92 2" "Tried calling 2-650 several times last week, no V _'§ 3 result. I guess it's your number. I expect to be I-;_ - g. here G.E.!until about 1 March and will try for .. another trip to Syracuse before I leave. Family here - w 1n fznc shape -- how about yours? -- y M@3BX-" * 1 2.! d lease for Apartment 61 at 65 Morton Street, New York City J the _ . "details of which were set out in the details of the report. 3.! Letter of 5 pages, dated January 28, l9h5, addressed "Dear JOE". and signed by "GIL". l __ 8 Subject stated that this letter was addressed to JOEL BARR and was lrom an lndividual named GILrGOODMAN, who worked or lived in Bayonne, 1 New Jersey. R. R.! A Bates List Finder Containing the following names and telephone num b ers. Coments of the Subject and Mrs._SARANT concerning these items are being listed. / 1 :- ,. ,. ?' 92 5 - 103 - - 924 1 ,.» 1 s "" .~ I r ' ' I " ~- ~ ...v ~- .558 /5": N 4 - T G3 1 .» 5 A v 1. 4. I 92 I? AL 65-156k J ~ | L ~ . ,,~ F I K Y.. a ADMINISTRATIVE _. ¢' Y fa. - ,- . I _ I0 .- l i L D '~-a -y". ' <"x hr 3 ,.~ _ _.,92 Name, Address, and/or 92 ' . Y- rt s» x Telephone Number _ _ Comments of Subject r" Y - 0 x Rx1 -. 5 l Q American M illegible v 71 ~ 0... WI 9-5800, Ext. #00 M; a 'Comments of Mrs. §AR£NT T 92,- - -1'--. ~ T I APRIL I Does not recall this No information "' _ i? l=~ #9 W. llth Street ! In »t number x I Work - PE 6-6537 =.g ~. Home ~ GR 5-9259 q . L Subject states this is This is_r_RnwcI_1}1;§_ ,9.1=_3_1L_, n. A . 't ~.:§ K jig, 1 Fame IS'T.PRIL, an ac- friend vhom'shc met through _ 1¥ c. Eéfsn quaintance oi his wife her parents, presently em~' whom he has met. Ho ployed in the advertising _ 132O_Jefferson Avenue further information. business in New York City. 9 Ger iold 2969 - BUFF < W r ¢ Does not know who This is the name and , I 1 this individual is. address of e doctor in .,~ 1 BEER; : Buffalo , Nev York . s V 92 WA EFO986 ~1 ; L sf BE}1R.PfPIUl.TT, girlfriend BEHRI PRATT, whose last . ~ A -, acquaintance of his wife name appears in another l. who used to come to the section of the date finder, W musicales occasionally . lis ng address 3 Weehewken A . at their apt. at 65 St., NY. Says she met this r c 1 Morton St., NYC ,}?S§§LEY, 5i l through who was a couple studyingnamed 1 architecture at Cornell U. i and that PRATT lived at the SEELEY house. .92 rs. BIEHLER > fa ., . . BTL X lhO7 :4 F Believed to be acquain- Unknown to her. .9, 6 tance of Subject at Bell ~ . Telephone Lab. end 1 X 1&0? thought to be his extension H. BUS 2059 V. 1* Ithaca Transportation Not certain, but believes I Co. - this is number of Bus - Company in Ithaca. _ .;_ A BRANDT / i LOUIS BRANDT, grand- Address of her grandparents 1230 Park Avenue 96! father of Subject's in New York City , AT 9 8U§3 WifC',__I.fQUISE. W /92 J1! E- W .. l u - 10k - ~ ~ r _, .1 l . .. .- ';, » -, Wg u ,. - - -- .. A =; » ~, F» 4- .'._ ' "_r '~ '92 L 92-Q$31.; - - 92 -P ,- . .1 Q: c , ._ . _ ._-.=.~.'_== : - .: , J . v -Y Q , ~§_,- 92 . _ . - < >_ >8? -Q _ :_92,a.§ _ '._ s V ~ s ; &§ ?eii" % .-as F ~ - vx _.1 . v r. 1 - Fe. s ??? I , o , ~ »,.._'. , -.92 .31; .~: r,,; in Ln? j >.; - .5 _':'-- r,_':.- - a . v - 71" . i < , r_'.-~.~:z";<. ¢~ ~-3: V -,,>»._<_ _ .a.~ . Q 1 . AL . D! r_ lb6h ' t ?A:w _I ¬ _WL _ §vi . ADMI1 IIS'I R[~.¬[ IVE_ . C q n »;~¢ ' ~» xg >:w ; Nome, Address, and/or >_ '~ '5. ~92:: -u, Comments of Subject - -31 Telephone Nnmher '" ' .=:;1 I r C_Io1rr.ncn_ts of oi92Irs._ S_1'.R.~ 92l92TT_ ' F. 4 ~ BOUDIIY ' " --- ' H . wk v w 1 Friend of his wife, -Refers to ARTHUr&-bREI ;f _ ; 1320Park Avenue 96! whom he KROWS, believed £OUDlN. MURIEL is an old [¢~" AT' 9i-81153 . to be identical with friend of hers; her husbano,E f. . MURIELBOUDIH ' ARTHUR, was formerly em- ..,¬ * ployed as a market re- ' 7g . searcher for standard brands ~ a new employed in GdVGT@i$f. _pA '. busines. Brother,"L§QHARQ_ _g1v -OUDIN, was one of attorneys -A§11§ I M 92 xno represented JUDITH COPLON 3 Mrs. S. says she has met *": LEONARD BOUDIN only once "i quite some time ago and she " , A» has never had any contact * BRAND OSCAR Friend of his wife who Says he is a folk song, I ' ST 9-0076 is a folk song singer singer whom she heard ' about thru BETTY SANDERS. m 0 -/A BURDICK 2-my 2; JAMES-LBURDICK, BURDICKS were formerly l2~Ol 12th Street who lived next door to neighbors of theirs when * Fairlawn, New Jersey Subject & his wife when they lived at 65 Morton st. Telephone: they were at 65 Morton 6#¢8?o Q St., NYC. They were there prior to time Subj moved in and left before Sub- Jest. $1 92/WE; H0 information Prohghly refers to LO§X §L_ =e rm 3-11; 63 JUDX;BROw , neighbors of_ theirs in Ithaca; - 105 - ~ 1 s _v.. ~.-'1-=;¢~. l'.&, z~¢;;r-:£~ 1 d 92 1 .. ~ 4 -1=12M§Nzs'2R»:~T;~**§ .. » AL 65-166k- 92 > .. ~ I -Ie:.1e_, Address o.nd/ or 0 1 . $¢lePhQw2lhm%¢?=.i. §2_or-.n'.:ients §ub;1ecj§ _by ... . 1 34- 3; __ 1 __ 254]. W081; . 92 B-tiny Sitters Former acldress of Com1cnts_ of I-Irs. SAP,{§.H'l _ - 33318 X 2376 JOEL BRPCR Refers to JOEL BARR . '- Ithaca phone nmfoer : J- where they call for baby sitters. Veterons baby sitters orgnn- - ization through which the_ , SARANTS often hire baby Custom Cabinet Company sitters. Phone number is 1072 .At lontic Avenue that of Corrmel Univ. o.;:r'i_ M1 . 2-1-14382 extension is one assignei _ ' Believes this is outfit to that group . 92 which made his record Says she does not recognize /!?CLARK - x 2056 player cabinet this nme or address but believes it is sotction of This is her hu:=':>o.n<1's-. _ t , whom he an indiviéuel I-Io im ; orne.t2'.on. < ,; 2 . . . *1 This name and address Says this 1S o. friend of , ~' was crossedoout, but her pear;-nts. ' Subject states it is an elderly woman, first na:.1e unlznotm, whom his wife met in Y.-lash. D.C. #,gCOHEN,"SOLx~r31i.le she was employed - 1501+ Over Avenue there. Believes sl1c is now residing in Florida. I ES '{-' §" 4- . Men Subject knew while No informat ion. CULICOVER enrployed. at Western Electric. 2775 Kin gs bridge Turrcc Terrace JAC qCULICOVER, who Says She met this incliviclual worlked at western Elec. anal that he was former fel- Bronx with him anal who has low worker of her husband's at Western Electric. visited Sub,ject's apart- a ment. Interested in music. - 45%- o ' v 6 ~# ' 1 AL 65-1661+ 92 ADMINISTRATIVE 1 ' f 3 2| Name, Address and/or . A Telephone Number _ °<1 1 ?¢Y"i 95§ %'°§.°°_§ . e comz. v 16l»o North Harrison st. CommentsW s W of Mrs. ~ e SARANT e > 411'! . Arlington, Va. ...... -~. , . v < Identical with CONN ./*COURAHT, SARA mentioned above. 1h2 Colton Rd. New Rochelle Says this is personal Says COURANTSformerly _ , fr?92 W friend of _ his wife, whom lived in Ithaca andwere 19°R ;.1 Wk he has met in Ithaca. " quite friendlywith them.30V}{Y923 Says her husband attended Address bookreflects LB XDIVMUTH, DR. LILLIAII Cornell U. & they left their present address. 92 28 East 10th Street Ithaca about 2 yrs. ago. ST 9-0086 Says it was his wife's Doctor in NYC and her DLYNH doctor in NYC. association with SARAHTS 265Riverside Drive entirely professional. Ho information Mrs. SARANT says this refers to AnITA:»bLi"x»m whom she met through a family nomed 15'ARI~iISEwho live in Brooklyn, NY. _ DALE=KUNTZ No information Says KUNTZ was former1y~ 201west 16 e student at Cornell U. WA 9-7557 ,¢ 1§AYTON, BRUCE Subject's next door Former address of Mr. & 805 South Plain neighbor, Mrs. BRUCE"DAYTON, now 61u3 next door neighbors of the SARANTS and very close friends-of theirs. _ . :§EEONOMIDY, MARIE This individual is 1817 21st Street Subjcet's aunt. Aunt of her husband. Galveston, Texas 4 - 107- F33 ' dig 1 5 5! 92 i 7 92 t AL 65-166k 1; ADMINISTRATIVE - -nnunn-n-.--- 1 Name, Address and/or ' Telephone Number, O 'Comments of Subject - FINESTOHE <>@m@e==_w we-Osew ALP-318 8 Avenue CI 6-2086 Crossedou Worked with Subject as yAX,FINESTONE, friend of _ 210 W. 21st a painter in Ithaca, NY the SARANTS, who at one FINESTONE cu3296b and was student at time worked for Subject as was also written in Cornell U. C? member, a painter. First became according to informants acquainted with him while of this office.! O attending high school. . Later FINSTONE attended Cornell U. During war he was employed in Merchant FRUMES service. H Old friends of Subject's This refersto FRIM%%%huMms 50wt 9th wife, LOUIS, and his _who is old friend n ROSS u~1771 mother and father in-law family, Mrs. SARANT s _Mr._& Mrs. v.x.n1 Boss, 'parents. Presently attorney in Ithaca, NY. States he met CONN, mentioned ' above, at their home _ » . . ~ 1;,/ nnznnnn, A. Has no" information This refers to_ALBERm 92 229East 12th - » ,§?FREEDMAN,who attended gram mar school with her in NYC & once or twice visited SARANTS in Ithaca while FREEDMAN was working in Rochester. I/. FEYNMAN 6959 This is o physicist who This refers to BICHARD1 formerly worked at #§%FEYNMAN, who is dttoched Cornell U. but who has to Physics Dept. at Cornell left Ithaca and has gone west. Docs not know present address. Has met him socially & recalls being at a birthday party for him. 1 0 - 103 - ', Q it a *§'; ._ ?- 1 .. Q. 1 _ ,. -1 r AL 65-1661» ,_ 4. 1 . . 0 ADMINISTRATIVE .. -s- ' " £5 r Name, Address and/or . r Telephone Number _ Comments of Subject_ ,~'._~ » . Greyhound Comments of Mrs. SARANT ' LA h-5700 . ° Kw. -5- . Telephone number of Refers to Greyhound Bus .?= Greyhound Bus Station Terminal . telephone number. y¢ in NYC. gdznnn, DOLPH ' » . 215 w. 9151: sc 1»-6079 Friend of SnbJect's wife Friend she met through_§ETTY- and has vague recollec- SANDERS, who was an actor tion thet he is aspiring and says she last sew him _ cuxm, J. A. MERRY! actor. about five to seven yrs. ago. C/0 mam, Arlington, vt. o. lg59 Beacon Street Subject went to high Old friend of Subject's who school with this attended Cooper Union at " ; a -3;. individual end has same time her husband was Q 1: maintained contact with there. "r fEr{/ him since; GUIDA was at 92. his apt. in NYC at one . time. Recalls wife's 92 parents visited GUIBA once after their marriage PHYLL1s}e6Lnbut doesn't know where. Friend of Subject s wife Old friend of Mrs. SARANT v _ 3u5 w. 55 Street and does not recall ever who attended grammar school ' c1 7-78kl meeting her. . with her. 92 . r l Y . // CEBU,GADY Childhood friend of his Old friend of Mrs. SARANT, 979 East 163 Street wife, whom he recalls who attended gramar school =. Bronx, New York meeting once. with her. ' - Q, e1.Assnm92I Identical with VIVIAN Identified this as y;y;§g__ 3&3 East 61:11 Street, GLASSMAH, who was close GLASSMAN, girlfriend of _ 92! NY 9 personal friend of JOEL. JOEL B192TiB.' B ,;,';Z'£-R. //!»'<1f~43 4 AL 1+-8651+ ' BARR & who went on the Office: DI 2-O5h0 canoe trip with Subject and BARR in 19%} & who went on canoe trip with Subj, his wife & BARR in 19% . ~ 0 l -1o9- ~.:." .- - . I - ' ' 4 s I , W 2, .92 -. 4 ~ 92 m *2 I 1 x r.1.' 65-1661» 4 1, T -192PM2N¥s'¬R{92TZ"§ - 31 H Name, Address and/or , » x Commegts of Subject _ ~ . Telephone Numher y CommentsI 0 of Mrs 'SARAHT - . - H . . _,;~ W , 11 -~ _ I ~ ~.-¢~: _ 4*?" ¢~ ,1. ' - ._-A KHAN, LEW & HELEN This is man who went to m 1 U 1 _ ox 710 Iowa City cooper Union with Subject Old friend Of AL'S?TOB - _ ' N and who attended one Cooper Union»schooI.ln Z}/?Vl.f»_ ~'5'D . 92 musicals at his apartment. . _ _ ».. _ igGl UBERHAN, ERWIN Diselaims any knowledge. ' ll2 Brandle Rd. Person she attended grnmmsr ' Aldamont school with her in NYC and 6 attended the Pioneer Youth ' Camp, a trade union sponsorui camp for children near ' Kingston, NY, and is very . old friend of hers. ' _ _ 5 cxxassmnn - EL-FRED This refers to EL and 1: 1 r ////es , _ 155 .-West 20:21 . FRI >B*GTI~IS_BERI~T, personalRefers to FREQf@ IrISBEmJ as- my 11 ' friends of his wife, his wife,ELE2.11'oR BE/P/1 M1 x¥f.'i'RU.'§.{§J!J$ C whom he admits knowing whom she met in high schoo L casually. Says FRED GINSBERN is now a 4 A / GREY, manna Baby sitter they met in " Ex 219 Ithaca, NY, negress. New Says this should be spelled in the WAACL At one time GRAY. Is a girl she met _ _ ' taught school on Indian through Cornell Veterans _ _ rj Reservation in Arizona & Wives Babysitters Organiza- _ _ 3 New Mexico & has nickname tion. __.1'/1'6?-"/ ¬V'5Mk "MIKE." From letters appears to be well ec- qusinted with Subject & his' wife.!- ;92mRaIs, JAM.EB Friend of Hrs._SARANT ' 329 West 101 st. who has been at his Not shown~wIm~s. SARANT! AC 2*-9631 epartment, he believes. /iiscxrr, rmncm Discleims knowledge. 255 w. 231-<1 st. Says it is friend of Not shown to Mrs. SARANT!> cs 2-3261+ his wife. p ~ 1 -ll ... r ,".fa¢x';§w»-:3. . . -_ 1..4": 3:..3~1- <1.-:.r->.1§'*. ___ ._ _x .11-:92.:_w92.>..-w-.-9;;»1_..z:P'._1192.,m¢-'e!_-K _.. - _ _ __ . on _ "- ~-u-» F3 -§'§~, 5; _ ,!':.;;'~3.i "',92- *- . -p-v ..¢>~,_'v92._>~92.'' -1;? - IIELU 1* > f.» w '5- .~-" -" - .3"; H _.~. . ~> ti i AL 65-1661. ' _1-.gr4i_r-z§s@R.§& ;92'I§_ | Heme, Address and/or Comments of Sgpjeqt 92 ~ x TelephoneTOWARD Humber_ X Y 1.» . 4 170Columbia H eights Brooklyn ~ v ¢@=111?1.¢P-is1"I;¢S- of $4'~F+@PlI- IWO States this could be Not shown to Mrs. SARANT! I IWO 7-2881 HOXIARD GRUBIIR,*..'Z1or.1 he met in Ithaca and that A-2321 probably this is _ GHUBER's hone address. ¢. 4-. States his wife went Says this refers to Inter ~ u 5 to their clinic. national Workers Order and in particular she believes her husband had dental work > IIIGERHAPI done by a doctor connected ' w27 sq m with the IWO and that nota- ST 7~372F tion madc because of this. U M States this is his Dr. Euci-mL92>'mcErm1~.mof Jnmcoss,I 1+ *-' 36 wifc'S doctor who is NYC, vho_was her mother's 10 .. . .n.A an allergy specialist. bhysieian. States this is his Says this person is unknown wife's doctor. to her. < G JAYSOH Brother-in-law. States Mrs. SLRLNT said this refers 103Done sterRoad this man's wife is his to brother-in-law cf QlFRED Malvorne, LI sister, ELECTRA. smm, JOE L.¢lG'AYSON mt?-m /§zd.:=D LYN 9-1.966-w A. K. Subject docsnot know Denied any knowledge of A Fr. 1»-2200, EXT. 1+0 this individual. this entry. ,y1<'1sm-n=:r< , Eye specialist in NYC. Doctor in New YorkCity " 20 Park Avenue who is very highly regarded Telephone MU 5-5115 eye specialist. /ltwm"-m1~I Docs not know yho this Completely unknown to her. SC h-hh77 is. 255 Central Park west . h 92 ' & x 1 L 1 » AL ' 65-1661+ , .. P . .- _P~P " ¥ §S'§R l~T§"§ - - Name, Address, and/or Telephone Number _ Comqents by Subject {<4 .~.' , . § . . 4 . . . .,_ KENWAI - PEN. COL. illegible letters! ¬ Wo0Qland Road Comeuts_of_Mrs. SARAHQ,m- Pittsburgh, Pa. .. States this is GENEVA 'ReferseErrEv!~l»~§ Individual who formerly Refersbto head. oi Music was in the Music Dept. Dept. at Cornell Univ. at Cornell U. and who is . LITTITZ new in Music Dept. at '92-1 Urbana,.Ill. 1 u ' X 391 _ c. Does not remember, but Unknown to Mrs. SARANT believes it is probably n fellow worker at western LEVINE Electric. 1598 Ocean Avenue Telephone ES 7-030 States this is probably Refers to neon;/xirvnm, o. MELVA LEVINE, presently grams: school friend. . in Ithaca, NY, and whom. he and wife know socially. LOEWS SHERIDAN u Telephone Claims this is LOEWS Refers to moving picture SHERIDAN THEIWER in NYC. theater by that name _ WA 9~2166 and was used simply to inquire as to schedule of movies. » 5 . 1 -112- ~ s AL 65-1661» ~ ADMINISTRATIVE ac, ~ >- I-Ie.r.=.e, Iulrlress and/or Telephone _Iif;;;bcr 3 § o:1ue_nts oi Sigbjcet 0 * r Hudson Leunc1ry' 'I clep11onc~ 3-{ix 9-3733 Comments All of Mrs. _ S. 1AIITJ9, Claims this is lam:C-.r;: - CHERRY LAIIE L. they used. while in NYC. Telephone CH, 2-1-l~8T5 This Cleins this is a laun-zlry used. mvizrs,/:- i2LB.». they used while in EPIC. is -2 laundry they Telephone :' 2811.-l while in NYC. This is IALPILBA LEVINE, This mentioned above, with is 0. lamidry they K-lecla nicel 1.pplio.ncc:~s her local Ithaca. number. usedwhile in NYC. To lephonc : CO 5-5581. Subject does not know This is a Cornell Univ why this number is in student when she net MAI zzzxvmos through her pczrcnts. GR 3-751#9 GR 3-2039 Friend of Sub,jiect s Unknown to Mrs. SARJLNT, but nautical THEODORE probably a. notation of er ,/ H[.NZAVINOS , who visited husband. ' s - . ~ 1 him once at his_hor.1e in /v<.-/mnoxmr,New York. _ Unknown to Mrs. s1mmT'.§HU / Pi I1E" 'b J. J. Fellow employee of Subj. x 2052 at Bell Lab. in NYC, to 0-v RM l1+l5 when he leaner . his cznp ixzg equipment at one time and remembers l =IfJ~IONEY re- Unknown to Mrs. SARANT turncd the equipment to 1 t : him with a Pullman stove Q as 0. present. C--V is Gray bar Viriek Bldg. where the _ laboratory was located, & room 1?+l5 uncloubtedly the room where he ~.¢or1:ccl. 1-men _ GLADYS I'IEYER,- when he knew States this is GI-ADYSVMBYBR, 323 west 12th Street socially in NYC £2 who an old girlfriend of ALFRED -':.ttc.-mled musicales fa vent SARANT on hikes with him. Claims his wife did not know her ~ = -113- ' .n ~ o 92 I > z .._ , 1 92 AL 65-166k" ADMINISTRATIVE _ 3 Name, Address and/or Telcpponp Hurbcr, _ Qo monts of Snbjeet I 8. -<1 ERRICK, LOUISE 161 West 75th Comments of Mrs. SARANT Does not know this This is Q girl who worked individual. for tbs/ lnsnnsné at Ithaca, - nooo z, ¢/0 GAILI -{OR noted podiatrist, with whom 15 west 83th Street this girl now lives in NYC. so h5o27 _ Docs not remember this This refers to BILL & NORMA. individual. /jfnoonr. rxonz-.11.". was on 01:1 friend of either Subject or JOEL BARR who sublet WILLI;Q{§RILMOR s apartment. She said he is G noted -rfimnr "progressive? radio com- ~ Hone.telephone 3-2R3? ncntator. ,/ Office telephone 9572 Does not recall. Does not_rccall last name of this individual, but identi- fied her as an assistant or PUSS ROSS oifice girl to Dr. MILTON; 60 Morton Street ./ SlMON, a dentist in Ithaca. _ Telephone: WA 5-3 This was his wife's This is Mrs. SARAHT's maiden name. It should maiden name and her tele- be noted that her correct phone number and address name is LOUIS JACQUELINE before she was married. ROSS and she has been nicknamed PUSSY CAT and 'PUSS. PRATT " BEHBI PRAT, friend of Refers to BEHRI PRATT, 3 Weehawken Street his wife described above identified under the B's. Telephone WA 5~Q986 who worked on magazine / PE'C-1108! "Seventeen" and whom they knew socially. Has been to their apartment at 65 Morton St. NYC, to attend musicales. A | 3 A - llh - , 92 , i"-B .» _ F92,,. . 6 C3 AL 65-166k <4, . ADMINISTRATIVE _ ~ » Name, Address and/or 92 Comments ofSubject D Comments of Mrs. SARANT Telephones ' s Number ~ * c* 's *' *"* s ~s 'Tq .-, *=*i f* 2* * " n c "**_ /7 2-= -.»g PETE and DULPH & Mainah-9709 Claims this is PETE This refers to GREENS DOLPH GREEN who are identified earlier.' ' f . 170Columbia Heightsaspiring actors and Brooklyn who may have been at their apartment, 65 Morton, NYC to their musicales. ,/ PREMICE Claims that ADELE-'PnEnIcEOld friends of ANITA DLINH 127 St. James Place and entire PREMILE family and of misnnmmzzoorrrs, who Brooklyn are old friends nf his was a boyfriend of Mrs. Telephone; wife. . SARANT, a former Cornell - Sterling 3-QSR5 University student who is from Haiti. 4/1@ople's SongsNo information Place of employment of ' TelephoneCH h-6797 BETTY SANDERS. PRAGO N Friend of his wife and Refers toMrs. RUTH*F hGO, 168k Nostrand Ave. is identical with Mrs. former school teacher at Brooklyn, New York JAMEs_»HuTcHINs01~1. Who Washington, D.C. whom she according to her letter, meg tpereBECKY thru and apparently is a Comunist BI J,BST, who later moved & who resided at 5 Hull to NYC and there renewed St. Brooklyn, in April her acquaintance. l9#0 and at 525 W. 113 St., NY in May, l9h9. She indicates she knows MUBIEL and mrnun BOUDIN.! -¢T§ERRY- Oceanview P0 Does not know this These are friends of Mrs. Miami Beach, Florida individual but believes SARANT s parents who sent they gave them silver a gift ho the SARAHT ehild. spoon for the baby when their baby was born. Could furnish no other info. -115- ' - ~ /is V ~ ' 3 53 , ~921 v 1 AL 65-166k 4,. ~ x ADBIINISTRATIVE is Name ,Address and/'or Eolephonc Numbcr___? Comments of Spbject Jiomments offMrs. SAQANTIY Q . ~ RUTLEDGE Qtates this is go Not shown to Mrs. SARANT! 109 Seamon Ave. ,/fRUTIEDGE, who has Apt. 2 F, NYC 31¢ visited the SARANTS in L0 9-1u13 Ithaca and who handles discrimination cases for either Fed. or State govt n ROSS Subjcct's wife'sparents. Not shown Mrs. SARANT! . ' 322 East State St. Ithaca Office: 2650 E Homo: 3687 crossed out! 5707 RKO.23OO This is RKO Theater in Not shown Mrs. SARANT! - CH 2-3hhO NYC. ~ Rdiiway Express Did not know why this Not shown Mrs . SARANT! MU 6 T9OO number was in the book. Robinson Airlines Subject could not explain Not shown Mrs. SARANT! CI 6-h5u5 this. _ , RA! ¢7f§AoLAmD A woman doctor to whom Not shown Mrs SARAHT! _ 115 E. 17 St. SubJcct's wife wont ST 9-1590 * ,/ shown Mrs BOISTACHER CHESTER ROISTACHER, a Not SARANT! #4-I C. 217 Linden friend of BET?Y SANDERS 13131 who is o folk song singer and whom he'moy hove mt in NYC, but cannot recall ROS3NBERG, JULIUS Info set forth in Not shown Mrs. SABANT! and ETHEL separate section.! .~ 1- 10 Monroe St. New York 2' - 116 - 7' __ i7'__il '__4"»= _'»§-, .;-;..!,,_." - _ 7,; _ _ n 1 § , X 92 AL 65-1661+ Name ,Address a.nd/[or 'w Telephone Num§cr_, _ §g§pents_gf-$nbQcctADMIIUSTRATIVE Thisgcnls C .0. 5-7389 511 First Ave.~ to As. Pk. x s is HARVEY szacns, I-lot shown to Mrs. SAF..'92N'l_ !- I l. SEEGER with whom Subject used - an 5-8890 _ travel in New Jersey. . who Wit ,92 Belicves this is PETEl Not shown to Mrs. SAR1'.I¬T! .»/SEEGER,bro banjo a player Prose wife went to school I h his wife; Has a » ther who is an Asst. . _3.Q_1Y!.1.Y.*9.YJ'-.$.-.°..§$A1W T ~.- ,l'11."§.=~ 1~:m:»s6'nmPsf at Cornell U. - Claims he knew this . Hot shown to Mrs. SARANT! ox1;-1309 individual at western l 89 East 3rd Electric when they both . New York 3 worked at that company _,. ~ & SCHNAPS left HE and ~ ope ned the Associated Rec ording Studios at 1625 Broadway, N ! P: ask ed Subject to send bus incss there when he could. ' SPARGO Johnson Hall Morning Heights fri N.Y. 27, N.Y. who ~ the States this is SPARGO SheHUTCHINSON, very good end of his wife "- was married after- r Subject came to Ithaca. theused to attend many of musicales at their apt. . I 0 AL 65-166% ' ,4, . » iA121~1£"¥S'£R&T£V*3 - Name, Address and/or Te19Ph°3¢ §BPbe3 Ti? Coments of Subject . Comments of jl-}1r's_.7 snnnhif ./ / 1SHAPIRO, JUDAH J. States this individual Friend of I-irs. S1 .RfJi I "'S 7, 72h-Foster Ave. is a friend of his wife parents who sent a gift , and her parents, and that to the SARANTS' child. he met them thro gh the ROSSES. _ /QPEL Subject believes these Notknown to Mrs- SARANT! ' X 709 were individuals whom he Sheridan X 862 . knew while working A either at western Elec- /QMFER, J . E. x M30 tric or Bell Laboratories and that these numbers were their extensions. Wszmzmrw, mm This is SubJect's nick- Not shown to Mrs. SARANT! Chelsea 31000 name and his phone number Ext-;1h75 Graybar while working at Bell Laboratories. 0 SARANT 6 North st. Baldwin, N.Y. The address 23 Colony Street, _ Hempstead L.I. has been crossed out! Apt. 2959 - SPARGO This individual is 4 Refers to JANE SPARGO, an 611 West llhth st. identical with SPARGO old friend of hers'who.15 Telephone UN u-199a HUTCHINSON. GOV MIG. JANE HUTCHINSON, ' SANDERS This is BETTY SANDERS . This is BETTY SANDERS, an Telephone: BU 2-3510 previously mentioned. old friend of hers whom she 2212 Ditmas Ave. met throu h S the e._i..--_.BOUDINS - 3P°°klYH, N.Y. -" suInK, nnn - A prominent attorney in Telephone: GR 7-0331 NYC who is a personal 295 Sth Avenue friend of MINA ROSS, SubJcct's wife's mother. » ~ Subject has visited him socially» I - 118 - 92. ' ,1 __.v L W; Ni" 3 gig. ,2 _ J. . . ¢~_ > R, A1 0" ;-Y. _ _a-'..§,d_,%'_?.d.; §-_,_=',_ . . V _._,_,__5 . . _ - 1 ~ -. 0 ! K ' .AL 65-1661» ADMINISTRATIVE . '.I -.~'1 ' 1 L. Name, Address and/or i gpf Telephone Number "_ Cements of Subject c ,5 ' AB3 92 s?R1c1-QLER "f ~ _ - x < . Q - o at_ - Telephone:6-2386 JE Comments ofYrs. smzwr ' ~ ~ ~w;....."~~.=r- } "v . ¢ 92 Vaguely remembers that Unknown Mrs.to SARA!-IT. _ 1' this men attended some ' Au . of the musicales at 65 ' ., 92 SARANT MOTORS ' Morton St., NYC. Does < >, . not recall anything about Telephone: FRPT 9-2801 . _ him. ... __ . 4., QIWARRELP-I Telephone: CH 2-1800 This is Subjeet's brother. SARANT Motorsisheperated' y X56 by GEORGESARAN I .,';,'T.-2.-'1 i . :1:-£'0 Docs not know this Unknown to Mrs. SARANT ' ' WIEHERMAN individual. » 31+? East 51m: st. "17" PE 6~llO0 1766 E. 18th St. A friend of his wife who Refers to :.nELIm2< v EnER24:a: . Brooklyn worked for magazine who was employed at the Telephone: "Seventeen" & believes magazine entitled "Seventeen" Dewey 9-6&8? she attended some of the Friend she zet thru_§ETTY _ musicales at the NY apt. SANDERS. wmrc Telephonewo 56002- Does not know significance This is a place where BETTY T of letters or telephone SANDERS worked. H _ _ Western Union number. Telephone: 23h5 This is we Western Union Refersto Ithaca telephone number at Ithaca. of Western_Union. WAHRHAFTIG number'!g1_i~. r;;i.f';£.. ;:- This is some relative of Refers toJOSEP{Qvl 1'JIRI£AFTIG,_> 56hBoulevard ' wayhis wife. uncle of hers who resides in Piedmont 10, Cal. Calif. Not certain, but be- thatlieves he hemarried is an attornc EQlT § §BEL& 92 sister of her father, whic would makehim anunglc byj __,P »;{fmIz?mR, ."JOHNDoes not know who this nzzirringo . !l-TH}?I4 F -'*5 ,1.-. 8 West 87th St., NYC is. Telephone: TR 7-9012 was a student at Cornell U. _ whom she met many years ago~< '~ ' * ¥ 5 n thru her parents. . ' . I e i !- S AL. 65-1661+ . ~ - » ADMINISTRATIVE l ~1 unma- _wQ ' . __{ _. 5.! l2 Letters fron,B§?TX SANDERS, copiesof which have beensent to the Bureau for cryptanelysis 6.! k Letters from Subjcct'sbrother, ylLll§§ §§§§H@, A On July 21, 1950, e further search of Subject's homewas conducted by SA s PETER_F. MAXSOHand JOHND. MAHDHEY,by'auth0rity ofthe waiver of search signed by Subject on July 21, 1950. A search was conducted on this date from 1:00 Pi-I until 2:15 PM. _. The following additional items were obtained from his home, and .a receipt was given to the Subject for these items. .! vl Royal Typewriter, Serial #171676-5. .! l Card file containing miscellaneous 3 x 5 cards. In this 3 x 5 cord box was e receipt nadc in the name of a Mr. w. MUTTERPERL,1516 East120 St., Cleveland, Ohio, dated 2 March 2%, l9h5. Information concerning this item hes been set ~ forth in the details of this report. .! ; l Note addressedto Mr.-SARANT and signed by C,DIC$< §4Bf6EM. h.! l Letter file containing miscellaneous letters and materiel. ' .! 1 Praxidos enlarger. .! This item is e set of linguaphone records on the Russian language. .! Photo elbu with the.name JEREMYVICTOR SARANT,December R, 19b6, Ithaca, New York, on the inside cover.! It is-e collection of various photographs. 8.! Photo album with no date or notation on it with the exception of the ' word "Photographs" on the outside cover. It contains numerous _ . photographs . -120- A ¢ .x -.l.._,1 ,., .< ~- .wH~'fr ; .';'f~or '~~7."!-".~ 2T;T"-"'-"="."1'---92'g P ~ |,;;-"-» ~'_T . .13 ""-, -- . ._~-, '1.--W_ /*~ '. ~-,-1...... __ .;'..";_/; u »= ;-.*- ** 1» " it A; '":~:~¢1 . . .~ "1 _. ._. ~- - - " t V - **. . -. s -~ *» 1 £¬% 16% L . " _ __ »92 4 0 1 < " AL 65-166k , , ~ ' v" ADMINISTRATIVE Z , ~1; R, ~--_- u-'1- ' 9.!< Photo album with the date 1931 on the inside cover. It contains" - numerous photos. , 4 lO.!Small red folder with the notation on the outside cover 1 1 3 "ALFRED s Papers." " , » ~h . _ --~.f » * This folder contained numerous miscellaneous papers, including information concerning income tax withholding certificates, etc. It should » be noted that the withholding certificate for l9hh under the name A. SARALT, r 65 Morton Street, New York 1h, reflected that the western Electric Company, Inc., 195 Broadway, New York, New York, withheld a total of $585.hO for Federal income tax. On the reverse side of this withholding certificate was _ the notation Mr. W..MUTTERPERL, 1516 E. 120 St., Dayton, Ohio. This paper, 1 1 froniits appearance, had been carried on the Subject's person. . F . Also included in these papers was a Certificate of Fitness from his Local Board #719, Henpstead, L. I., dated June 9, l9hk. On the reverse side of this notice was the following information: ¢* 1 . '- " "West End BMT 20th Ave. 8665 21st Ave. SKOPT Oarbachs ' . 9:00 PM " ' Also included in these papers was information concerning war Bonds. Included in these papers was a letter to Miss LOUISE J. ROSS,_ O0Morton Street, New York, New York, indicating that she had received s368.08 from the Government Purchasing Commission of the Soviet Union in the U.S.A. . . . 1 ll.! l Flashgun and reflector for Subjcct's Bee Bee Camera. v l2.! 1 Schraffte candy box containing miscellaneous photo equipment belonging to the Subject. Information concerning this equipment was 'set out in the details of this report. _ 4 - 121 1 A * 6 to l l ' ... . 1 . ~ J ~ 7 .. < 4 AL 65-1661+ A 34'" - ' . ADMINISTRATIVE * , * 1 N 2 3.! 1 Roll of 8 mm; film belonging to ~-...... ~.~....-- JOEL JAYSON._ ~~ ~ ;~ ' ~ _. , ' I lh.!v Pack adapter and ground glass attachment for the Bee Bee Camera. " x _ ' - E. 1 l5.§ Book marked on the outside "Birthday Book" with the name of_QQ§lSE, _ + ROSS SARANT on the inside page. _ 7 , [' H » ' | l6.! Small red folder containing miscellaneous papers belonging to Subject. , l7.! l Baronet candy box containing miscellaneous photos and negatives. Among the photographs included in this box was one of a Negress ' named MYRENE, alias MIKE GRAY. This individual, formerly of Ithaca, New ~ v York and subsequently teaching in Indian Reservation schools in New Mexico and Arizona; presently in the WAACS, according to Subject. is Also included in this box were miscellaneous bottles in which Subject stated he had his developing fluid and spring clips for holding film. . - . 843 27 Miscellaneous postcards and letters. ' v. . @ - One letter was from COURANT, Nankee Road, Newport, L.I., N.Y. Subject, This~letterthis was is dated SARA May COURANT,7, l9h9, who and ismarried was signed to ERNESI§5éURANT, by "SARI." According who wereto formerly in Ithaca, N.Y. while he attended Cornell Uniwersity. Also in these papers was a letter from Mrs. »- ROLAND I ;,: MARYl?B %DICK,~* . / - 12-O1 12th Street, Fairlawn, New Jersey. This letter was postmarked June 26, l9h8, and was a personal letter to Mrs. SARANT. Also included are 3 letters from JANE SPABGO HUTCHINSON, two of the letters having the return address of 525 W. 113th Street, New York City, and the third having the return address of 5 Hull Street, New York City. Also included in this material was a gosteard postmarked September , 16, ;L9l+8, Ithaca, New rem, addressed to Z ,/SA.RAN'I', RD #1, Ithaca, N.Y. which reed as follows: ' -122- _ 4 - . '3 i"!".§.§I='2', fin. y g? ., "=":s_.:" w*'»'~--." yu J __B.§:_'__ _ 2y_V > '5 .- -'. - __/ h ., i_ _.4§~"¢Q* . _ 2 ;.- ?'Q~92;-- » V - g, .- . oxfg . ...».-.;..,_.. 5;, _,33,,.vd_.v_.__ ,. Y '...v~»'_ ,.___ _ :1. ' as 0 . ii t - | 1 1 3 1 AL .§5-l66k '_ K ,}:, ' ADMINISTRATIVE ' I ** '__ _¢Q- ' _ 92 " "0030 Sept. 16» , "Dear P: > "I got your cards written in the same . p ~ quiet voice I hear you in. ' ~ i ;* I v "A few hours ago was the meeting and a 1 little puppet show by a friend of yours. "HadD. chance to call BOUDINS butdidn't use it forgot -- sorry - next time.! - '"Would liketo see all you nice people ' soon, especially J. before he grows up, so please come get me sometime. _ ~ "Give my love to A, B, C, D, E, J. P. S. . 1 '~ Signed. "H" r _ "Isn'tthis a pretty card? I »h0oked it completely I mean." ~ ' Subject advised that he believed that this card was from an individual named HOWARD GRUBER,who formerly lived in Ithaca, New York. He could not explain the meaning of the message. ' . l9.!Miscellaneous letters to Miss LOUISEROSS,°nostly fromALBERT MAHGONES., O.! Bank statement for the Subject and his wife for February l9h9. A l.! Includes 15 miscellopeousletters and notes. 4 One of these items has a torn piece-of paper with the address "Mr. and Mrs. JAMESROSENHOUSE, ApartadoPostal 19, Guatemala, C.A." ' Also, a card with the following information: "See who got spliced! - ' lDUISE SEROT and EDWARDLIED[lU I . September 12, 1957 Our address is _ c/o SEROT,32 Monroe st. _ New Yorl; City 2 Apt. 50! WOrth 2-5827 " »~ . - 123- . ~ Q D ~ if : 2 AL 65-166% ADMIBIISTRATIVE _ t , v ' ' ' '' ' '' ' Le . . 92- ~ t. -On the reverse side was the following written message: 1 I . -. 4%"iIoUIss a;-rsina p "Hi! -- May the boids of the air drop manna , on thy brows! " ._ ll K .92.. ' 92,';: _ Also included in these items was a letter from Mrs. ROLAND_1MABXlf' .~l.r BURDICK, l2#0l 12th Street, Fairlawn, New Jersey. This letter indicated that Mrs. BURDICK had been visiting the SARANTS'nephew in New York shortly prior to this letter.r It was postmarked October 2h, l9h9. _ H . Also included in this item was a letter on.the stationery of the ' BrookhavenNational Laboratory, Associated Universities, Inc., Upton, L. I., New York, dated October 1, l9M9, and was addressed to Mrs. SARANT: This letter stated in part: _ M " k "I have not located any of your friends yet because I * spent most of the sumer surrounded by Montreal friends. s This was mainly to fortify myself. Also, people we get to L. t know and like have only a partial clearance and they prefer t. i. to leave this atmosphere. It seems that pegple do get I 1 clearance -- lousy N." ' Further it states: V ' .» "But ERNST has found a chamber music group and I go to _ NY every Fri. for a lit, course at the New school;" V The letter goes on to state that the writer is sending a strip of PAUL apparently her son! and further states, "We are going to do our own photo work so will send a better one and larger later." The Subject stated that this letter was from SARA_COURANT, whose husband, ERNET, formerly attended Cornell University and is presently work- ing at the Brookhaven National Laboratory. . Also included in these items was a slip of paper with the following notation on it: ' > . bf/'ELVINGEZR e/o Lev. 589 El Monte Les Altos, Cal. ~ ~ : ~ 12h - K1 ' '~3, "' F _ -*" »Y. ~~~;.~"&6_ lL*i_ ;A aQe ~'~'¥- '*~ , - Airs-¢ £¢a,.-'-;A92; .1'~, . *-r-» 4 A 1- _. . :,.n"92s4" .:ii92»~.:..J15?3i{.54.$uJY9_'.'~Z»~P~ ¢.:2- -»¢r . y " ""'? 3"1' »"-Q ? . ¢*" *, . »'. . . . ' 3.. es ' ' v. M?» - e i5 I AL '65-166aJ ._ t , ' ADMINISTRATIVE On the reverse side was the address; 378 AdelphiSt. |-"' » , Brooklyn 5 § j _ Nevins 8-5890 ' . I Another item was an envelope with the following information scribbled on it: ,* §§TnRs or/REEERS! . 172 Selina l oGenesee 0179 < ~ On theother"side of this same envelope was the time - 7:00 PM ? with the name Dr. S._§4PFELDMAN- Monroe 7215 _ .1 Q Also written in ink.on the same envelope were the names Mr. 5 and Hrs. EARNEST1HEIMLICH. ea Also included in this item was aLlctter to Mr. and Mrs,~ALFRED SABANT, postmarkedJuly 16, 1950, with the return address of 3,m§§§§§§§, Schroon Crest, Pottersville, New York. 92 2.! Photograph of BETTY SANDERS. 3.! Check book stub #uau thru n88. 924 h.! Set of plans for constructing briefcase. ' * * *- - 125 - ' _ ;xe@e*>+-w¢;H¢.-+<¢~¢eeeee-uw.Md¬.?%~;»' " ~.v_e*.T -,~,~ .~' . "'~. 1:191. , =-~ Xv _.»-~_- -= »~e**.=w~@~»~*»¢v'»#w~*~4... ._ , -'1 on-»:;-""."2':-~1~= --V ~ -1-<.~ V »¢»...... ~. y"V ..~ ~»; , .a . _.'- 9 .-at-. ~ .3 L v92 61° ' 0 4 1 . #1 5 -92 '1» _% 3 l3.v L-1 . .1." , J - * .»- 92 - : ' ~': .4».- ¢ .. .. '5?92 ¬ r ,4 1 .~ AL 65-166k 1 .. 92 , 5 6 /Z n u w .. s ADMINISTRATIVE r .. 92 ., ' 1 ~- .. I.» .. On July 25, 1950, the Subject vo1un+.a.rily furnished. a small glass + ..,; -Q ~ n w 1 jar containing the following keys: vr 7.. ~ _ o'. 6 Ie '- <1-> L, <- A ' " &_;ev 5' l key with #183. ~ s .! 4' ' . - l key with -#5A. . -§ -! IL Key with ;f =1+23 same as #1. ~v lb! r ! ¬ Chain~ b. containing l with four keys as follows: ' ' w #8O§O z ' :1. 1 marked "Car Door" c". 1 marked Ignit #'T1+7 I .. 4 ': <1. l with 7'r'-new 1302 w .! Key ring exgntaining9 keysas follows: r I 1 I a. marl-:ed P 5000'; ' b. l mztrlied Chicago, Ill. B 827 k c. 3. 1r1z92.r?-.1-;-<1 N-716 I! H " s l marked N-716 same as <1 . I l with c #5 955957 Q l Gold key marked no 5u6 1 key #5256 K » 2 miscellaneous keys with no number. ' L' .! Key chain with 7 keys as follows: , 0.. 1 with 1 #101 ! B b. 1 with #261 c. 1 with <1. l with #5256 e. l with l with. #Feih 1 with # 6xP 1 1% 671? no number -.! . .! 7 miscellaneous loose keys ~ 1 1 92 » /. I _r~. 0 _,.4 '1Q ' K *3% S , . - I . , - 125 .. V ,3-_. .r--. ' , : -.r.»- .;~~}_~~- v.- w I-I. 0 A - 5 TN$3 } ~ Ia . » 1 Q v ~ a 0 AL 65-1661; ¢~ ADMINISTRATIVE --Q---unn- L! . The Subject furnished one cancly box of miscellaneous photograplls - .41 .. .. 0"4.-~._._ canoe -Ag trims and hikes. Anon the photos in this pack werethe fol1ewing:- GLADYS MEYER IRIS BARR/, LILLI .I-VI- ILL-E1 ! JOELBARR FINESTOZU3 A JANE SPARGO HUTCHINSOI-I VIVIAN GL['92SSM£ .N. -3% -if ' * - 5 The material has not been completely reviewed or evaluated. 92 Q | .1 , - 1.27- ;~.- -,- Lu. 5., -"*9 '1'¢ "5"" i '59?" £~1¢-*:"~-_ ;.'.a-:*::_-wl-.:=' » ~ 92 1 _ Q ~. . AL-+- 65-166b, '_;_ . 'd " - ~ 3ME E5'PR{-TZ"§ - ZHTERYIEH QRB "f ~ JDERQ ' .' - _ § _ Q_ _ During the search of Subject'sresidence, various letters were' f ound from en individual named BETTYSAHDERS. Mrs. SLRANT stated that 5 BETTY SANDERS,2212 Ditmes Avenue, Brooklyn, New York, had been a friend ' of hers since l9h2 or 19b3, and hed visited her and her husband very often at 65 Morton Street, New York City. She stated that SANDERS is e "folk singer" and is Chairmen cf Peoples Artists in New York City. She advised that SANDERS had visited the SLRANTS in Itleca, but that she did not re- call the dates of these visits. She stated that SANDERS had attended many "musicales" at 65 Morton Street and was undoubtedly acquainted with JQEL BARR. She said that she didn t know if SANDERSknew wILLIAM.PERL-_ . ¢_ and had no reason to believe that she knew JULIUS ROSENBERG. _ .- ~'¢ | Q It was noted that there were o number of letters addressed to _ Mr. and Mrs. SARAHT,65 Morton Street, and dated in October and November, l9h5, at which time SANDERS hedJust rsturned from a USO entertaining '_ trip in the Pacific. One of these letters requested Hrs. SARANT to obtain beggnge at New AYork City end remove certain photographs, letters, and dispatches from it before it was sent on to SANDERS home. Mrs. SARANT was asked for en explanation of this. She stated that she recalled these ~ letters and that the items referred to were personal letters and photo- graphs which BETTY SANDERS did not want her mother to see, as well as ' copies of certain dispatches which she had prepared for the Commander of the USO Troop with regard to e certain couple who hed acccmpanied her on this tour and who had net purfOn3Cd their duties satisfactorily. A letter of recent date found in the SARLNT heme reflected that BETTY SANDERSwas singing at Schreon Club at Pottersville, New York, during the month of Jul§, 1950. . Another letterfrom BETTYSANDERS r¢r1¢¢t@athat she is very *4 probably a member of the Communist Party, since she discussed both of - the "Peekskill incidents" which she attended, and referred to the per- sons who attended the conference es heros." , - 128 - ~ .~92 , S ~59xv--. S 65 92 § lI* ~, X ,~.. ha._ _ : . '1 1' I ._ z". _ ~ 4 - s ' _., , _. ¢AL- 65-166a w i.' ' ADMINISTRATIVE _ ~ - L_ n - 1-,. . **' SPOcinl Agents ant s B. GRANT andPLUL R.BIBLER interviewed » ~ " BETTY SANDERSst Sohroon _;ost Manor on July 2%, 1950. She advised that ~, J .5¢r correctname isBETTY scnnsusnnand thatshe residesat 2212Ditmns '{ Avenue, Brooklyn, New York, with her mother. "1 She advised that she has boon a friend of the SARAHTS since probably 19b2, meeting first ALFRED SARLRT,and than IDUISE ROSS. She stated that she had mot JOEL BARR, who was Q friend of the SARANTS. ~ ' SANDERS refused to answer further questions and stated that she » felt that shc should have advice and counsel before so doing. She said that she would return to Now York City on the evening of August 2, 1950 and discuss tho matter with an attorney. She advised thot if rccontnctcd-» ofter that date, she might answer further questions. _ . ' 4 - . = 1 ¢< v Q § p c .. , .~ s 92 I . * v _ r A < 92 O .< , 92 -92 - 129 . q _ ¢- " 92 92 1 . e ; 6 . en» ' ~. . » '. ,I - 1 5; r, --< Q . 2 > 92 . . AL 65-i6.61+ 1 , " ' manmlswmrivs "' :1 ' v v §lSCELLANEOUS I FCPM£TION_ ECEIVEDF? 3 QLFREP Sn hhfin' - Seviet Purchasing Commission _j{ .'_ = ;';~A Hrs. SARAHT advisedthat while she workedat the Soviet Purchas- [ ing Commission she had one Russian and one American supervisor. She said 1 that she was there only e few months, probably in l9h3, and that she couldM » ~ not recall the name of either of these supervisors. She saidthat sherecalled onlyone person,e Mrs. RA1 iIN, a,vx | translator who was employedby the Conuission. Shefurther stated that she did not recall exactly how she came to obtain this employment. ! ~ BOUDlH_- 9 Cay Street, QYC s . Mrs. SARAHT stated that MURIEL and ARTHUR BCUDINhave been friends of hers for many years. She stated that ARTHURBCUDIN is a re- " searcher for an advertising agency and that she has met his brother, ~ 1 EEONARD BOUDIN, who was one of the attorneys who assisted in the defense . Qf JUDITH COPLOM. She stated, however, that she had never met JUDITH Q CGPLOH. *~ Mrs. SARAHT stated that BOUDINS are some of her closest friends ' and that she usually stays with them when she visits New York City. n . JACOB RUBEL _ Mrs. SARAHT advised that J@CQBm§QBSLis her paternal grandfather and that he presently resides at The Emtassy, Santa Monica, California. She advised that she had not seen JACOB RUBEL,since she was a very small girl. . , , r . HFTTX1 SAVIDGE_ Mrs. SARA!-ITstated um she did not know marry SAVIDGEand ma - ' never heard the name. She stated that she did not know that SEQL had any girlfriend by this name, or in fact that he had any friend who ever re- - sided at 65 Morton Street after they left this address. - - 130 - * <~.-U.-.,. J » s ' 6 92' .1. . ~~ _Is ~sv ,, ' w '4 ' ~ . 4' , .4 *7» ' 5r -. -. ' 1' 1 __ .~ 3 1 _.92 92 - 1 92.. I . - . 0 V W1,~ » x {AL 65-1661*, - < I r s -»~121-111@S'=:P92@TP/12 - . " " 2 s It was noted that information was obtained from Cleveland by v , teletype to the effect that in a letter HETTY SAVIDGEadvised lll y is - PERL that she had visited the SARAHTS duringone of their visits to Hev¢;{ , * York City while she was residing at 65 Horton Street and had thanked them for making this apartment available. . "~ 1'; 1 . ' ~ r . Mrs. SARANT said that she did not recall any such visit. She said t1".O.t the BOUDIU5 resided within walking distance of 65 Morton Street, _ and that it was quite possible that she had visited at the BCUDIUS in l9h7, but that she was quite sure HETTYSAVIDGE hadnot met Her there, - 1 > _ » - Hotmsn oRu"sgR_ _ F5 - Hrs. SARANT stated that HOWARD GRUBERwas formerly e student at~Cornell University and that he is the individual who sent the post 4» card referred to under the "Results of Search" which is addressed to ?Dcar P. H and signed H H . g ,= _ 5 ' She stated that as she recalled the events mentioned on the 92 serd, GRUBER had gone to New York City where he had put on a puppet show at-e Progressive Party or WALL£CE for President Meeting. She said that they had no telephone at that tine; he apparently wanted to get in touch - , with them and found it necessary to write her e post card. - With regard to the sentence on this card which seys, "Give my 92 love to A, B, C, D, E, J, P,_S," she said_thet this refers,to ALFRED SARAHT, BRUCEDAYTON, CAROE DZYTOK,DARIEH*DAYTO¥, ERICPDLYTOHand JEREMY, PUSSend'STEPHEN. said She that she didn t know GRUBER'saddress at the present time. '' , . . ~" LLO GOR. "mm ' J r Among thetoll calls charged to SubJect's telephonewas a col- J _ lect call from Mrs,_IOUISE SARAHTon March 7; 1950, from a number which was determined to be tie telephone number of LEQqGORMAN,2 west llth Street, New York ity. ~ 1 .- -131- , 1 ' T ' 4 R _ . =_-~ '14--»'*~v~ - '~'" >=~ V1.1 s - ~*r:sw»<§~" :-11*? - r ~--~ ~ 11-.~, .,- s »~ ,~----- ~,;-» V *:--= >...... _ t ~ 6% ' 43 1 - e e - . . !_ U n I, <92 P ' . . l 92 | 1 ¢ -»4 ~ _ __ _. > 92 .; :1. 654661» ~" ' "' 1.1:,Q . -/ ~? 3; ¥S'¥R{~T¥V7§ - .-. Mrs. SARAHTstated that she had absolutely no recoliectien of ever visiting 2 west llth Street. She further stated that she doesn't ' . know anyone named LEOGORMAN. She'a vised,however, that it was quitc_ _ possible that she was in New York City on March T, 1950 and possibly 'I that she made aphone call to her husband inIthaca. She stated, huw- 1 ever, that she was unable to offer any further explanation. '. ' " ' . t l J 1';SP1 -l_?_92'iQ__H_Y HE : _'l'CHI§I_SC-Z92I Included in the material obtained from SARANT's residencewere _ numerous references to SPARGO,JADE srnnco, and J§NE SPARGO HUTQ§l§§QQL_ ' Mrs} SARANT stated that this individual is a very close friend of hers whom shemet at Ithaca, probably in l9#2 or l9h3. She stated that her corqect name is JANE SPARGO, that she is presently married to Q JAMES HUTCHIRSCN, and that she resides at 525 West 113th Street, New York City. She advised that JANE SPARGO attended Cornell University and is interested in sculpture. 1She further stated that JAKE SPARGO visited ér often at 65 Merton Street, New York City, when she resided there, and might be acquainted with other persons who visited at that address.. 92 r,r "132" A 3 ,- - N c . ;__ .. ' . '1-5 - ,» we . .» _7 -7 }" ""*"""". »92,;e '- _ .1 _ .;._, 1 v A l- .1 _92 - 2. < 3 m , . ,. :1. 65-1661+ - ' "- - -~2M1I/Y2S'1:P»:~'r;v12e_ . .---,e| I§__ __I§T}L iC_Z1_ RELC: 0 All registration cards for guests at this hotel from January te _, June, 1950, 92-rerz: ezgomizic-<1by S.*.'s PAUI. R. T3IBLJ3P. andVIPFCEIJT 1'-1.SIEEHI-JV A in an effort to c".et;;-naaine V11 JULIUS1»:os2:m_";a1:c, Monroe lO Street, New York _ City, had registered duringthis pericd. WThe onlyregistrations of , E possi'0le_ significancewere the following: 4 I P." OSE1'~!3"2RG or-~_I {U§EN3EI B131-IJAHINH .- w6LF lh Monroe Street . *»"- New York City Nights of 5/18 and19/50! _ V _, _ r The New York Office has been requested to identify these indi- viduals and the FBI Laboretory has been requested to compare the writing ion these cards with known handwriting of JULIUS ROSENBERG.f | o O -133' A ._ v >. - -..- ' -"' " .4. ,':*.92-Jill! F. ' "3 ','_ ?if"1."I= 92 '3' "' *" ; '3-@:'::-IX _ -_-" ""_'~ -92-""*"" -*4"-- I ' 71"" »" . in?! 92 _'_. ' War '-'~~ 1: ~- -.,.- ___;-I Y-1 "" -- . u 1' <- 1 ~ G 0! I " I - :.._ ~, . , . T ~ 7 .1 ,¢ ,_ _ 41'. AL 65-166% 1 _ , : ~Y . Q. . -;-sv . ' I i _Ann;n§s§R§T§v§ _ , ,...3*92 ' = ~ cgscn ornosinson §IQIIU§$_}@; I?SiSAND Pnsssnsne LISTS: x _ 1 B Menifests and passenger lists of this company as made availeble * , by ¥¥>8EEWH§ G6h SHIT§§¥§§§§s¥ant-TTe snr¬fTwere checked to determineif [ ' JULIUS ROSENBERGor any other members of his network had traveled to or from Ithaca. Mnnifests covering the following dates were checked: .» 1 . 92 February l'toMarch 23, Hey l to May 31, Jun: l to June 30, and July l to August 1, these checks being maee by SA s HICHCLAS L. DUHBAR, BILKE I. MOUHEY, PLUL R. BIBIBR, PETER F. MAXSON. Passenger lists are main- " .i . teincd for only three months. Msnifcsts list only the lest names of the _ pnsscngers and can serve no purpose towards identification without the relating passenger lists, which indicate the passengers telephone numbers. The following pertinent nenes were noted on manifest records: ' I nossnnsnc - Ithaca to Newark - Flight 10 - 3/5/50 . . ROSENBERG - Ithaca to Newark - Flight u . 6/8/50 _ . £ Investigation condcuted towards identifying these persons was . conducted as follows: ~ ' with reference to the flight made by ROSENBERGen March 5, 1950, it was determined from Hr+wF1-§§;§£6R¥¢»Ithaca"StEtTU *Hsn§§c¥? thatthe oessenger list from this flight had been destroyed. Hrv~££ZL{H$H1Kh ¬§§Sc¥@GtiQ S~O%%rk~WLOthe manifest, preparedcould notidentify e picture ~ of JULiUS RCGZNBESG as any person to when he had ever sold n ticket. BBE§w~¥»»%H$%H% Nw-sdwsanetiassthis¢£light, failedto identify photo- graphs of JULIUS nossnssnc. » ' ' r With reference to the flight mode by ROSENBERGon June_8, 1950, it was detenuined from Mr-FLOK% that the passenger list for this flight indicatee this passage was for "ROSENBERGand baby," Ithaca telephone = nubcr 3-2503. Mrs~6US S¬HU Hn DT$"steter nd wthréeriegh f identified; § Q Stan ins Photosraph of JULIUS nossnssns as being that of a person he 5 saw in the Robinson Air Lines Office in Ithaca et least "a good long" . month ego. rr SCHUE RBT'did recallnot ever having seen this person en board a plane. He stated that he believed this person who resembled ROSENBERG approachedhim in the Air Lines Station and asked, "Hes my wife S ..]_3li- .. - / =92- ' ' » = -% 7 >1 _ I I :11. 65-1661+ ' AD}- "gone through _ as =~¥ §@9§ E9? s obsurvutipn that this . Parson was ugicr t-> "lu;ncc of ' stn ad that he was Strv in his §;;" m cg-inr, but it ¢§;u he vws vary h itnnt bwiorc making such id: i_icati0n and . not as: the infcrviuuing hgcn¬> 2 rcliablu w . ss. ! _ It was i¢tcrrin¢d ga Ithaca tclcphonc 3-2503 is listed to GEORGE "1 stu cnt; Ccrncll University, who r;sidcs at 313 Auburn S rcvt. . "Lg. " was intcrvivvai ~ -15:2 tinn he strtoi that M ilwh. .~ r 92LS h1;!' 7| » - »~ - Q duL§gu§ . _ A ¢~ ~__. '_. Q _ . _ _:1_r _b&»Um __q _-_- LS; PAdCL$E$ ,_ . -, ,_ .-.3 * 1¢r _ _ JQCR _ in June and returned to Ecwark. ¢v Jurs¢y, . " ZMRCUS stated that Mrs. RGSENBEIG lives at Drocklyn, New Turk. ~ _ Mr. anu @rU -XRCUS advised iat they do not know JULIUS ROSEN- _ In _s notcd thst_ rs. ESTELLE RNDEEG C sister Of Hrs. GEORGE ' U3. 1 9 .. 0 .v _ - _ ~ I ~- 92 __ - - a J . . "r ~- r 1- . » . *6_, ~ O A _v 92.» l 92 " ' @ i ~;'. 1 < - 65 ._. - 92 ' mxz-.~m~:Is~r1;,~ '2 ms A-.. §;_1;~.¢_:~;__¢m.;_v_11 JbQHEH£:r" _-¢- §.I~1"»1;;9.1 ~.1<. - ;-. .1.lL5liR.+'13l3_.5E, ¢_I ...._,.._ ..-~..~-- -¢..-._.._- r ~ - - 3 vr 5 1 . V _ of 0:: A"-_1g;v:s t t11-".-2, 1.950,s.~. Division of 1nu;w1:-r Pl:.cr_-1'.1-;n <.D. ..»- =1-Am.-,-::*.nc. =. imw-rv1¢~...;.-.1= Ux".<_-r.q_":loy!"1-_-nt I1'1:;u1';-._'ncc, ~">z J. 92,;1:=~21;-;. - wt r Lubor,'~* . >"'-" lQ / ur ' 0.'*< .'.»:-.:-' n 0,, F H10 .'F 1"-.y , L-W £01.,t '1' w A11.0 LLEVIS - 1 hf"-0. t im'" m.'-' 11:.-tier. to the e:-ff-act t'nc*.'i;tI;<;-re m.-v<.-1 Z1{. rgbF: .'1'92I c.- i.,!.11 11S rm}; file. -: .by the " '- ""'92.'. u:.'.Ml-2... ' ~ 1. I.,'~J "'.""="'~¥'T'*" .x_.-.»1 """"L |'l E-F-1.-st l].'cI: S"1';ra;92."¥>. _ IL-@.~r 1 .n'E:Citir, or at any other :18-<1.1'~:::=s. I1u'..'~¢.*:-;-1',i'u1'11"i~s;:¢-<1 =1: 192.~.'c.~.u'ns 1'.I,F; -_}:33S.'L!, J-IT, C:~.;;ugc'. §{cigZ;'2;s R021. -1,Zti1:*.cf:., New fork, :10-in;; business unzlczr his 0'.-:1111:-.mc at that a&dr¢ss. H: furnished infonnation on"th¢ return which took in the quarter b<.tw<;c'n Sapmzzrbcr25, 19b9, olaxd D<:c~2:1ber31 Y9 u" . The return r ;»1" lcctc-0. ti". '£'0l1o".ling nurabr.-rs owl the r.~.n ' "1~-am: 1"- 1".rw:1tr<. =:-;r~:0-31;-=16-43 : 32 - $122.10. O ~_-~< K - . / 92 1 J .1 ed! AL 65-1651+ ' . ' ADMIN £5G_EIv"I'S I§:5 ;T : I _ "'" ~ This is 0/ joint report of Sf. JOHN D. I-'if,.IIQZ~h 3 Y the writer. an-.1 E Investigation in this ::1:~.ttcr was conducted by the following - ' Agents: . ;20sE:"<1'!=i1=.LL, JR. sac! 1:,-92.>:so1~r . PAUL R. B12133 ' -:::m' NI J}1OI,. S L. D1.i=mI1 r.'.1'z1:0: mom ss! Jm-ms 33. c:R1~m DOI':1§l4D norm X~.'ILLI;'.l-iCUILFOILE PETER} 0. noun-: Jomr n. I-E1 -J{OX~EE':I DARWII-I D. szmwnm-1 v1;:c.-am: 1-:1. szwzxmz - Intcrvic;-'..'s withthe 'fOll0wi3. .,f;persons as set -forth in the dctails of this report, warn con¬.uct=x -. by S1 . s P. -.'u"LR. I."L3T..ER :1n~l PETER G." l{O'1 I»I:FIZIQZC LAROCK, DOII.K_LDJ. I3I=.L§,f~§I£.'I'l ,and JCSBPH I§§'L'I.IIi§"i1'.GGIO. Inv¢st"5.g:~;bir;-n at Sto;:1I'or , I11 /xsti;;:tirs-n at Cci-auull Uni -.'<--rsic:o1;ca:r:-'.ing»; fy period the of residence ti.crc of ».'ILLI.".{~II EK- <1. was co:1duct<.=l by L'.'ILLL'.I'iF. GUILFOILE.. 0 J -l37- , , . I 92'§ t !' 'f92 i 4 . '_ '4 .0:-< a _ " n, 65-1661+ LEAD SHEET » ~» ' Two copies of this rcport are bei1:; sent to the Albuquerque . and BostonOffice;-s far:~'.nfo1"mc.tional purposc-s. I Copies of this renort are being ' - mated for all offices having outstazzding leads in this inv<;stig;atio::. ' Hr» lcznls c-rt; being sot fort}: in ttn.-5 ruport, since duo to the na~.tur<;~ of this c:".s<~;-_, all l;»e.6.s h-ave pr _;viousl;y been furzaisiimf-. to these o1 1 ic:c:s by tclctypc azzd t.-1cph-cue. All 01 : cars 12:~.vi.ng locals in this r:.'~."tter shouldSL'3?EL resultsof in".-'¢sti;3¢.tion, follo*.»r<_-cl by an in -resti§;a~ tive report. 1 1 ' i O 4 u - 138 - ' Q ______I__L, Iww-ul i ;._- - »-vs .--rI'_ JIII|Iw_em_- ~~ ww '-~.§I" *~ E-7-.'.1li92'. ; - _ 11. . { ,"-* F 1 ~ ~< . A , . w C; ; _= , *__.z AL CF65-1661» -1 Confgéential Informant T-l Confidential Informant Cunfidential I nfor. '=.2.21t T-3 Confidential Infcrnant T-h C_ !ITFID_L§{ i_'I1';Ii_ ;_ ~_ _'_ Confidential Informant T-5 -- vya Ithaca, N.Y. C Qnf ide nti 0.1 va Infor:2:~.nt "1, #4..1.61;?!" .e*."»'.1_¢!I¬': .92.. ;. "v.1' - C. . 92 T-6 -- ~_ @,;./92_*=;-,',-,:,M%Jww»-_ , V 1;. - " ' V~ -1 - - ~;,A» $5.; H _ 1,, Fort _»92,.~.~».a¥v,_.*.» i~-10m'.;outl1_ _ , ew J crsey 51» ..!,'_ -- 'v~ ~*<=92»»+@¢&z ¢.@» W * New York 92"2-= . ..*3" Telephone Ccnpany, Ithaca, New York _ ¢<¬ EYE .'. ' §92'<5' -- ww""- = ¢* T w1$¢w a@ western - ..'--1 ~_J.¢.u - Unlou, Itnaca, Huw Eur: _ Ithaca Savings Bun;, aca, New York ~r ' 92 5 I: -- - l t otional Bat - , '.> Ithaca, New York _ _.l AK5 :+< 92 '. 4 'r 2 4 .@ '.,';' . _,_-»..| : .1 -sin:3 f% 92_ . "4 v3 x I V 1 , _ _ __ ,,__,____,_,_,__,___,__..,,,..4up¢-¢- -.--,..»Q ~ ;'§' E1 n I >' ;92 " . M_., _ W Q » . FEDERAL BUREAU 01* INVESTIGATION 1 '7 . Form No. I Tms cAs§,_on| TITLE CHARACTER OF CASE ALFRED EPAMINUHDASSARANT, waS. Alfred Sarant ' ESPIONAGE - R SYNOPSISOF FACTS: _ { Subject resides with wife, LOUISE J.SARAMT, andinfant sons at RD #1. Cayuga Heights Rd., Ithaca, N.Y. and is self-employed as painting contractor. He was interviewed during period from 7/19/50 to 7/25/50 in connection with JULIUS RGSENBERG espionagenetwork. Denied ever engaging in espionage for the Russian government or working as an agent for JULIUS ROSENBERG. Admits acquaintance- » ship with ROSEKBERG whilehe SARAHT!was resident of New York City from 19h2 to l9h6. States ROSENBERGonce "propositioned him, adding "but I did not bite. Denies he can recall any further details of this meeting and believes ROSENBERG was sounding him out politically. Denies any contact with ROSENBERGsince moving to Ithaca in September, l9h6. Address of JULIUS and ETHEL ROSENBERG, ~ 10 Monroe St., NYC, found in address book in search of SubJect s residence. Admits close friendship with JOEL BARRfrom 19h1 to 19h6, believing he met ar- V ROSENBERG through BARR. Denies knowing BARR as Russian espionage agent and 1 denies doing any photographic work with BARR for the Russian government. Claims '5 he met WILLIAM PERL through JOEL BARR. SIJUUTPresided in'Apartmcnt6I, 65 i I Morton Street. NYC, from 10/1/h3 to 9/R6. States he lived alonc at this address * until marriage of 7/6/R5. Claims this apartment held in his name from 9/H6 to 1 1/50 while he resided in Ithaca!, that he received rent payments from BARR, PERL, and VIVIAN GLASSNAN,and that he made payments to 65 Morton Street Realty Corporation by chock from Ithaca. States this arrangement made by BARR with understanding that BARR or PERL would use apartment, since apartments scarce it time Subject moved to Ithaca. Denies returning to apartment since l9h6 and dcnics any knowledge of use to which apartment was put during period from l9h6 to 1950. Check of postal money orders, Ithaca, N.Y. reflectopayments in amount of $u5.5o rental figure! received by SARANT from PERL, GLASSMAN, andHNRIETTA r SAVIDGE. Subject denios'close association with SAVIDGE and claims he met her ,_. on only one occasion. 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