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Original Title. Other Editions 4. Friend Reviews. To see what your friends thought of this book, please sign up. To ask other readers questions about Liberating Atlantis , please sign up. Lists with This Book. Community Reviews. Showing Average rating 3. Rating details. More filters. Sort order. Start your review of Liberating Atlantis Atlantis, 3. Dec 29, David R. One of Turtledove's silliest books. The series now at 3 has become a total mess. In this one, we are supposed to imagine that an ad hoc servile insurrection changes entire folkways after one battle. What is worse is the endless talking by uninteresting characters. I hope he end this series. Jun 07, Angus Whittaker rated it did not like it Shelves: read-in I only wish I could give this thing negative stars. It is bad - laughably bad. Or cry-ably bad. For starters, everyone in the novel is an idiot, and I mean that as sincerely as possible. The entire cast has about half a cup of intelligence between them, though Harry Turtledove seems to think they're all sharp as tacks. He repeatedly tells us how clever and wry his characters are, even as they spout their idiotic nonsense ineffectually masquerading as wit. Turtledove seems to have only enough ima I only wish I could give this thing negative stars. Turtledove seems to have only enough imagination for about five different types of scenes in the whole book. One of them, which he returns to over and over, is the "clever [not] characters plotting their ingenious [not] next move" scene. He makes full use of this particular scene, using it over and over throughout the book from the POV of both the idiotic slaves who are rebelling and the idiotic masters who are trying to put them back down. Here's the typical dialogue - it applies to each of these scenes equally, since in essence they're the same: Idiot One: Now we're in a tight spot. I wish we weren't, but we are. Idiot Two: We need to , that's what we need to do! One: Well, you won't here me say this often, but you're right. Two: Damned right I'm right! One: Only trouble is, that's easier to say than it is to do. Two: Oh. I hadn't thought of that. One: Only question is, how do we go about doing it? I kid you not, this is the average quality of the book. The rest of the dialogue follows the same pattern, no matter what the subject matter, speakers, or situation: a bunch of dipwads proudly displaying their stupidity in the mistaken belief that it is what's known as "wit. Besides the dialogue, which I have already ranted about enough, the plot is equally horrible. You'd think that a disciple of history such as Turtledove would know enough about the past to have some vague inkling of how an alternate one might play out - after all, his main writing genre is alternate history. But, although in other books he might display more prowess in this line, 'Liberating Atlantis' was not his finest hour as a historical theorist. The course history takes in the novel would only make sense if every single person in the world had the brains of a pygmy shrew. Of course, in this novel every single person DOES have the sense of a shrew, but this does not make the story any more believable. Here's the basic course the story takes: slaves rebel after years of mistreatment so far so good. The slave army grows larger as more slaves throw down their hoes and pick up rifles. Unfortunately, the government of Atlantis consists of two asswipes who never learned how to play nicely together. Say what you will about politicians, I find it hard to believe that a pair of clowns such as Stafford and Newton could ever be elected into an office higher than Assistant Regional Under Secretary's Helper. Anyway, the two consuls as they're known bicker and fight their way down into southern Atlantis, where the uprising is. They proceed to bicker and fight like two little girls for the next half of the book, while their general spouts words of European strategical "wisdom" he picked up on earlier campaigns. And, by the way, all of this is what Turtledove calls a "war. Anyway, I won't give away any more of the book than that, in case any of my readers are not fully persuaded by this scathing review and must pick up the book to see for themselves if it could possibly be as bad as I say. Suffice it to say that the ending is no better than the beginning, and the middle is worse than both. Jun 28, Marla rated it liked it. It was a good alternative history of the Civil War, the slaves forming an army instead of the North fighting the South, but there wasn't much that made it distinctively "Atlantian" besides the addition of a Radcliff. I wouldn't mind if he wrote more in this series, maybe have more interactions with "Terranova". But overall I liked the series and the idea behind it. Jan 10, redbees rated it did not like it Shelves: read-in Plodding, repetitive, points are sledgehammered home. Clumsy and trite. Nov 19, Clay Davis rated it really liked it. A good story about people fighting for their freedom. Jun 06, Ray rated it it was ok. Reading this book was like plowing a field with a teaspoon. Pretty much a tedious labor. Oct 17, Fred added it. Good alternate history. Jan 02, Aaron rated it it was amazing. In the third volume to this series, which is set in a world where everything west of the Mississippi River was separate from the American mainland. This separate continent has allowed history to form differently. In the first two books, Atlantis was settle by the English, French and Spanish before a Rebellion took place. Now, two generations after the previous volume, the USA that is the United States of Atlantis is heading into a major confrontation over the issue of slavery. The north made sl In the third volume to this series, which is set in a world where everything west of the Mississippi River was separate from the American mainland. The north made slavery illegal many years previous, but the south's plantation-based economy is dependent on the use of the slaves. Africans and natives taken from Terra Nova, the American mainland, are the two populations used as slaves. While debate is strong in the Atlantean Congress, things are really brought to the fore through a slave revolt. Frederick Radcliff, the illegitimate grandson of the hero of the Rebellion from the previous novel, is a house slave. He has recently gotten in trouble for tripping and spilling soup at his mistress' big party. As a result, he is being demoted to a field hand and will be given a number of lashes. His "wife," who really isn't his wife because Negroes can't marry, is joining him in his demotion. As he settles into life as a farm hand, he finds himself less and less able to handle the inequalities he faces just because of the color of his skin. While being scolded by the plantation overseer, Frederick loses his temper and kills him with a shovel. This starts a revolt that will spread across much of the South with Frederick as the leader of the newly "freed" slaves. While the story is primarily told from Frederick's perspectives, two other men come to the fore to add their view. In Atlantis, the executive branch takes on the form of a pair of Consuls with one representing the North and the other the South. They are in effect a shared prime ministerialship. Jeremiah Stafford of the South and Leland Newton of the North have been ordered south by the Congress to crush the spreading revolt before it tears Atlantis apart. The two greatly disagree in how to approach the revolt because of their personal views of slavery, but they are both surprised by the capabilities of the slave army under the command of Frederick Radcliff and his "copperskin" marshall, Lorenzo. The two find themselves questioning their low estimations of slave capabilities and white superiority as they are continuously pushed back by the slave army. This is even more surprising as they are joined by the head of the Atlantean army, Colonel Balthasar Sinapis of Greece. As usual, Turtledove has done a masterful job of creating a realistic tale. While this is likely meant to parallel the American Civil War, it contains its own twists and turns, which are largely due to the unique nature of Atlantis. Not only did they help colonize the continent, but they have played crucial roles in its history since the arrival of Europeans there. Even as Frederick is not part of an accepted branch of the family, he definitely lives up to his name with the events. One of the things I have always liked about Turtledove's books is that he masterfully creates realistic characters. The reader is presented the events of the alternate history through their eyes. Usually, this is done to offer very different perspectives, giving the reader a full gamut of the pros and cons of events and why people might do some terribly, horrible things. Turtledove also tends to offer a great deal of detail about what is happening and the causes and consequences of events. I am not sure that I could say it all comes down to research because it really is in relation to what could have been rather than the details of what did happen. Either way, he is rich and complete in his storytelling. This is another great addition to the series and to his body of work as a whole. Jul 20, Peter C Lyon rated it liked it. The first two books of the series were what I expect of HT, but this one, with its reflection of the US debate over slavery, is one to remember. Along with "In the Presence of Mine Enemies," to me, it really made me think. Apr 26, Beau rated it did not like it. This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers. To view it, click here. Not up the the standard established by Turtledove in his body of work, nor with the previous two books in this series. I was pretty disappointed, because I've been so happy with his work over the years. One of the focal characters was Frederick Radcliff, a "house slave" - not exactly a butler, who was the grandson of the "George Washington" character on this timeline, Victor Radcliff. Frederick tripped while serving a fancy luncheon, and his master had him whipped 5 lashes and put to work in the Not up the the standard established by Turtledove in his body of work, nor with the previous two books in this series. Frederick tripped while serving a fancy luncheon, and his master had him whipped 5 lashes and put to work in the fields. In almost no time, this character had killed his overseer, led the other slaves up to the house where they killed the master, grabbed a shipment of government muskets, and started a slave uprising. The dysfunctional government was headed by two "consuls" who have to have consensus to do anything. One was pro-slavery and one was from a free state. Meanwhile, the rebels are growing in number. The government sends out the army, and the slaves catch them in a kind of Little Big Horn they call it "another Cannae". I find it hard to believe that the government doesn't have a huge strategic advantage, and that they can only send out one brigade-sized group to deal with the insurrection. In fairness, perhaps Turtledove is trying to write the internal thoughts of an uneducated character. This is not a new literary device, but it makes the plot unbelievable for me. In what might be less than a year, this guy is transformed from uneducated house servant to wise and wily freedom fighter. Admittedly, I wouldn't have read 15 or 20 years of this stuff, so doing it quickly is preferable, but it made the transformation unbelievable. While I rooted for the slaves to be freed and justice for all and peace in the land, I couldn't imagine that the government wasn't capable of putting down the rebellion and then talking about what happens next. But that's not all that bugged me. The army entered the conflict to serve as a neutral zone between the slaves and the militias, to create peace. In the span of a couple of discussions, they suddenly became the weapon of the slave owners, and began to fight with the militia. At no point did the argument between the two consuls deal with this issue. Don't have an account? Sign up for free! What do you need help on? Cancel X. Topic Archived. Sign Up for free or Log In if you already have an account to be able to post messages, change how messages are displayed, and view media in posts. Boards Assassin's Creed Odyssey Atlantis. What is the point in liberating enemies? User Info: EnglishGeeza. User Info: Strategia They are talking about here, it may help. Yeah I saw it after I created this topic. User Info: GhostyMcToasty. Apart from being a part of probably the worst quest in the game? User Info: Schumy7. Doesnt they fight in the last battle to take over elysium? Are these related to The Conquerer Trophy? I've heard that's missable if you don't recruit the humans from the 3 regions before the final mission. Liberating Atlantis (Atlantis, #3) by Harry Turtledove

One: Only question is, how do we go about doing it? I kid you not, this is the average quality of the book. The rest of the dialogue follows the same pattern, no matter what the subject matter, speakers, or situation: a bunch of dipwads proudly displaying their stupidity in the mistaken belief that it is what's known as "wit. Besides the dialogue, which I have already ranted about enough, the plot is equally horrible. You'd think that a disciple of history such as Turtledove would know enough about the past to have some vague inkling of how an alternate one might play out - after all, his main writing genre is alternate history. But, although in other books he might display more prowess in this line, 'Liberating Atlantis' was not his finest hour as a historical theorist. The course history takes in the novel would only make sense if every single person in the world had the brains of a pygmy shrew. Of course, in this novel every single person DOES have the sense of a shrew, but this does not make the story any more believable. Here's the basic course the story takes: slaves rebel after years of mistreatment so far so good. The slave army grows larger as more slaves throw down their hoes and pick up rifles. Unfortunately, the government of Atlantis consists of two asswipes who never learned how to play nicely together. Say what you will about politicians, I find it hard to believe that a pair of clowns such as Stafford and Newton could ever be elected into an office higher than Assistant Regional Under Secretary's Helper. Anyway, the two consuls as they're known bicker and fight their way down into southern Atlantis, where the uprising is. They proceed to bicker and fight like two little girls for the next half of the book, while their general spouts words of European strategical "wisdom" he picked up on earlier campaigns. And, by the way, all of this is what Turtledove calls a "war. Anyway, I won't give away any more of the book than that, in case any of my readers are not fully persuaded by this scathing review and must pick up the book to see for themselves if it could possibly be as bad as I say. Suffice it to say that the ending is no better than the beginning, and the middle is worse than both. Jun 28, Marla rated it liked it. It was a good alternative history of the Civil War, the slaves forming an army instead of the North fighting the South, but there wasn't much that made it distinctively "Atlantian" besides the addition of a Radcliff. I wouldn't mind if he wrote more in this series, maybe have more interactions with "Terranova". But overall I liked the series and the idea behind it. Jan 10, redbees rated it did not like it Shelves: read-in Plodding, repetitive, points are sledgehammered home. Clumsy and trite. Nov 19, Clay Davis rated it really liked it. A good story about people fighting for their freedom. Jun 06, Ray rated it it was ok. Reading this book was like plowing a field with a teaspoon. Pretty much a tedious labor. Oct 17, Fred added it. Good alternate history. Jan 02, Aaron rated it it was amazing. In the third volume to this series, which is set in a world where everything west of the Mississippi River was separate from the American mainland. This separate continent has allowed history to form differently. In the first two books, Atlantis was settle by the English, French and Spanish before a Rebellion took place. Now, two generations after the previous volume, the USA that is the United States of Atlantis is heading into a major confrontation over the issue of slavery. The north made sl In the third volume to this series, which is set in a world where everything west of the Mississippi River was separate from the American mainland. The north made slavery illegal many years previous, but the south's plantation-based economy is dependent on the use of the slaves. Africans and natives taken from Terra Nova, the American mainland, are the two populations used as slaves. While debate is strong in the Atlantean Congress, things are really brought to the fore through a slave revolt. Frederick Radcliff, the illegitimate grandson of the hero of the Rebellion from the previous novel, is a house slave. He has recently gotten in trouble for tripping and spilling soup at his mistress' big party. As a result, he is being demoted to a field hand and will be given a number of lashes. His "wife," who really isn't his wife because Negroes can't marry, is joining him in his demotion. As he settles into life as a farm hand, he finds himself less and less able to handle the inequalities he faces just because of the color of his skin. While being scolded by the plantation overseer, Frederick loses his temper and kills him with a shovel. This starts a revolt that will spread across much of the South with Frederick as the leader of the newly "freed" slaves. While the story is primarily told from Frederick's perspectives, two other men come to the fore to add their view. In Atlantis, the executive branch takes on the form of a pair of Consuls with one representing the North and the other the South. They are in effect a shared prime ministerialship. Jeremiah Stafford of the South and Leland Newton of the North have been ordered south by the Congress to crush the spreading revolt before it tears Atlantis apart. The two greatly disagree in how to approach the revolt because of their personal views of slavery, but they are both surprised by the capabilities of the slave army under the command of Frederick Radcliff and his "copperskin" marshall, Lorenzo. The two find themselves questioning their low estimations of slave capabilities and white superiority as they are continuously pushed back by the slave army. This is even more surprising as they are joined by the head of the Atlantean army, Colonel Balthasar Sinapis of Greece. As usual, Turtledove has done a masterful job of creating a realistic tale. While this is likely meant to parallel the American Civil War, it contains its own twists and turns, which are largely due to the unique nature of Atlantis. Not only did they help colonize the continent, but they have played crucial roles in its history since the arrival of Europeans there. Even as Frederick is not part of an accepted branch of the family, he definitely lives up to his name with the events. One of the things I have always liked about Turtledove's books is that he masterfully creates realistic characters. The reader is presented the events of the alternate history through their eyes. Usually, this is done to offer very different perspectives, giving the reader a full gamut of the pros and cons of events and why people might do some terribly, horrible things. Turtledove also tends to offer a great deal of detail about what is happening and the causes and consequences of events. I am not sure that I could say it all comes down to research because it really is in relation to what could have been rather than the details of what did happen. Either way, he is rich and complete in his storytelling. This is another great addition to the series and to his body of work as a whole. Jul 20, Peter C Lyon rated it liked it. The first two books of the series were what I expect of HT, but this one, with its reflection of the US debate over slavery, is one to remember. Along with "In the Presence of Mine Enemies," to me, it really made me think. Apr 26, Beau rated it did not like it. This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers. To view it, click here. Not up the the standard established by Turtledove in his body of work, nor with the previous two books in this series. I was pretty disappointed, because I've been so happy with his work over the years. One of the focal characters was Frederick Radcliff, a "house slave" - not exactly a butler, who was the grandson of the "George Washington" character on this timeline, Victor Radcliff. Frederick tripped while serving a fancy luncheon, and his master had him whipped 5 lashes and put to work in the Not up the the standard established by Turtledove in his body of work, nor with the previous two books in this series. Frederick tripped while serving a fancy luncheon, and his master had him whipped 5 lashes and put to work in the fields. In almost no time, this character had killed his overseer, led the other slaves up to the house where they killed the master, grabbed a shipment of government muskets, and started a slave uprising. The dysfunctional government was headed by two "consuls" who have to have consensus to do anything. One was pro-slavery and one was from a free state. Meanwhile, the rebels are growing in number. The government sends out the army, and the slaves catch them in a kind of Little Big Horn they call it "another Cannae". I find it hard to believe that the government doesn't have a huge strategic advantage, and that they can only send out one brigade-sized group to deal with the insurrection. In fairness, perhaps Turtledove is trying to write the internal thoughts of an uneducated character. This is not a new literary device, but it makes the plot unbelievable for me. In what might be less than a year, this guy is transformed from uneducated house servant to wise and wily freedom fighter. Admittedly, I wouldn't have read 15 or 20 years of this stuff, so doing it quickly is preferable, but it made the transformation unbelievable. While I rooted for the slaves to be freed and justice for all and peace in the land, I couldn't imagine that the government wasn't capable of putting down the rebellion and then talking about what happens next. But that's not all that bugged me. The army entered the conflict to serve as a neutral zone between the slaves and the militias, to create peace. In the span of a couple of discussions, they suddenly became the weapon of the slave owners, and began to fight with the militia. At no point did the argument between the two consuls deal with this issue. I expected that lives could be saved, and peace restored, sooner if the original mission was followed, to create an armistice, or truce of some sort, than for a slave uprising to catch the army in a sack. I really liked the first two Atlantis books, and the disappointment of this one makes me wonder where to go next with Mr Turtledove. All of the story lines I've followed with him have ended - the aliens that came during world war II, the alternate civil war, the alternate pearl harbor, and even the one where Shakespeare was a spy. I enjoyed them as much as any other sci-fi, and liked the epic characters and families in them. This book is not up to that standard, and I'm not sure why it's out there. Jan 11, Joel Flank rated it really liked it. Turtledove takes the continent of Atlantis into a uniquely different type of civil war. It's 2 generations after the war of independence from England, and the slaves of southern Atlantis can't take more of the suffering they endure. When Frederick Radcliff, the descendant of the famous Victor Radcliff from the war against England finds himself suddenly a field hand slave rather than a house slave, it's more than he can take. Opportunity gives him a chance to do something about it, and he finds h Turtledove takes the continent of Atlantis into a uniquely different type of civil war. Opportunity gives him a chance to do something about it, and he finds himself leading a slave insurrection and rebellion. This Atlantis book returns to Turtledove's typical multiple point of view characters, and shows not only Frederick's challenges in forming an army that can stand up to the United States of Atlantis from freed slaves, but also both sides of the political viewpoint as the co-councils of the USA wrangle politically and militarily when they jointly command the army sent to put down the rebellion. It's fascinating to read about a civil war that never was, and how it could have been different if the slaves themselves took it upon themselves to start it, rather than the North and the South fighting it over political differences. Lots of different types of challenges stand in Frederick's way - from how to supply his army, and fight against a trained force, to how he can change the conversation from one of military prowess to one of a political future that allows freedom for the former slaves. Like many of Turtledove's books, the story doesn't stop when the fighting does, there's roughly pages for the final act, which is just as interesting and tense of a read as the first parts of the book. Mar 20, Lianne Burwell rated it liked it Shelves: library , alt-history. Like I said with the previous book in this series, Harry Turtledove does not write great characters or scintillating prose, but his alternate histories are great thought experiments. The first book was the discovery of Atlantis the east coast of the States as an island in the middle of the Atlantic , the second book was the Revolutionary war, and this one is the war to free the slaves. The interesting twist was that instead of a war between the northern and southern states, it was an uprising o Like I said with the previous book in this series, Harry Turtledove does not write great characters or scintillating prose, but his alternate histories are great thought experiments. The interesting twist was that instead of a war between the northern and southern states, it was an uprising of the slaves in the south that forces the acceptance of freeing the slaves both black and indian, or 'copperskins'. All in all, it was a fun read, but not exactly great literature. I think that finishes the series, though, since it looks like he's going to have a new series coming from the same publisher later this fall. Aug 18, Leons rated it liked it Shelves: alternate-history. Third of the Atlantis books, brings us to the anticipated racial conflict set up in the second. I was afraid Turtledove was going to rehash the Civil War again, complete with analogues of famous historical characters. Afraid not because it would have been bad, but because it's been done before, even by Harry himself. But fortunately he didn't do that, choosing instead to give us a slave revolt on an unprecedented scale. I think Harry understates the difficulty of raising and controlling such a l Third of the Atlantis books, brings us to the anticipated racial conflict set up in the second. I think Harry understates the difficulty of raising and controlling such a large revolt, but it makes for an interesting tale nonetheless. Jul 11, Karl Schaeffer rated it really liked it. I think this was the best book of the series. An interesting alternate treatment to how slavery was ended. What would have happened if John Brown's raid on Harper's Ferry had been successful? What would have happened if the southern stated hadn't of suceded? No war of succession. An interesting federal government with two heads each ruling on alternate days. Don't know how practical that is. Again, Turtledove hits home when talking about human rights, bigotry and gender inequality. Set in the same universe as the Worldwar series, the Colonization series brings us to Earth in the s, where four superpowers rule: the United States, Russia, Nazi Germany, and the aliens of the Race. In the extraordinary Worldwar tetralogy, set against the backdrop of World War II, Harry Turtledove, whom Publishers Weekly has called the "Hugo-winning master of alternate SF," wove an explosive saga of world powers locked in conflict against an enemy from the stars. In , Hitler led the world's most savage military machine. Then, in Harry Turtledove's brilliantly imagined Worldwar saga, an alien assault changed everything. Nuclear destruction engulfed major cities, and the invaders claimed half the planet before an uneasy peace could be achieved. The year is Germany's navy is the second largest in the world; their army, the most powerful. But with the exception of a small piece of Africa and a few minor islands in the Pacific, Germany is without an empire. President McKinley indignantly refuses, so with the honor and economic future of the Reich at stake, the Kaiser launches an invasion of the United States, striking first on Long Island. By: Robert Conroy. On December 7, , the Japanese launched an attack against U. But what if the Japanese followed up their air assault with an invasion and occupation of Hawaii? This is the question explored by Harry Turtledove in Days of Infamy , with frightening implications. A supervolcanic eruption in Yellowstone Park sends lava and mud flowing toward populated areas, and clouds of ash drifting across the country. The fallout destroys crops and livestock, clogs machinery, and makes cities uninhabitable. Those who survive find themselves caught in an apocalyptic catastrophe in which humanity has no choice but to rise from the ashes and recreate the world. War seethed across the planet. Machines soared through the air, churned through the seas, crawled across the surface, pushing ever forward, carrying death. Earth was engaged in titanic struggle. Germany, Russia, France, China, Japan: the maps were changing day by day. The hostilities spread in ever-widening ripples of destruction: Britain, Italy, Africa Then the real enemy came. The invaders had cut the United States virtually in half at the Mississippi, vaporized Washington, D. But humanity would not give up so easily But suddenly their only hope for survival - never mind victory - was to unite to stop a mighty foe: one whose frightening technology appeared invincible. Far worse beings than the Nazis were loose. From Warsaw to Moscow to China's enemy-occupied Forbidden City, the nations of the world had been forced into an uneasy alliance since humanity began its struggle against overwhelming odds. In an extraordinary saga of nations locked in war, master storyteller Harry Turtledove tells the story of World War II, which begins over Czechoslovakia rather than Poland, eleven months earlier than it really came. Hitler's Plan A was to win in a hurry, striking hard and deep into France. There was no Plan B. Now the war grinds on, and countries have been forced into strange alliances. Once Hitler finished dismembering Czechoslovakia, he was ready to go to war over Poland a year later. But Hitler had always been eager to seize Czechoslovakia, no matter the consequences. So what if England and France had stood up to the Nazis from the start, and not 11 months later? That is the question behind the War That Came Early series. In Harry Turtledove's mesmerizing alternate history of World War II, the choices of men and fate have changed history. Now it is the winter of As the Germans, with England and France on their side, slam deep into Russia, Stalin's terrible machine fights for its life. But the agreements of world leaders do not touch the hearts of soldiers. The war between Germany and Russia is rocked by men with the courage to aim their guns in a new direction. England is the first to be shaken. A generation after the South wins the Civil War, it annexes critical territory in Mexico. Outraged, the United States declares total war. This time the American army faces danger on all sides--Confederates, outlaws, Apaches, French, and even the British. George Custer and Teddy Roosevelt fight hard and give the Americans hope. In this extraordinary World War II alternate history, master storyteller Harry Turtledove begins with a big switch: what if Neville Chamberlain, instead of appeasing Hitler, had stood up to him in ? Enraged, Hitler reacts by lashing out at the West, promising his soldiers that they will reach Paris by the new year. Turtledove is alway wordy.. This takes the cake. Liberating Atlantis by Harry Turtledove | Audiobook |

Thanks for telling us about the problem. Return to Book Page. Preview — Liberating Atlantis by Harry Turtledove. Liberating Atlantis Atlantis 3 by Harry Turtledove. Frederick Radcliff is a descendant of the family that founded Atlantis's first settlement, and his grandfather Victor led the army against England to win the nation's independence. But he is also a black slave, unable to prove his lineage, and forced to labor on a cotton plan "The maven of alternate history" "San Diego Union- Tribune" continues his epic tale of Atlantis. But he is also a black slave, unable to prove his lineage, and forced to labor on a cotton plantation in the southern region of the country. Frederick feels the color of his skin shouldn't keep him from having the same freedoms his ancestors fought and died for. So he becomes the leader of a revolutionary army of slaves determined to free all of his brethren across Atlantis Get A Copy. Hardcover , pages. Published December 1st by Roc first published January 1st More Details Original Title. Other Editions 4. Friend Reviews. To see what your friends thought of this book, please sign up. To ask other readers questions about Liberating Atlantis , please sign up. Lists with This Book. Community Reviews. Showing Average rating 3. Rating details. More filters. Sort order. Start your review of Liberating Atlantis Atlantis, 3. Dec 29, David R. One of Turtledove's silliest books. The series now at 3 has become a total mess. In this one, we are supposed to imagine that an ad hoc servile insurrection changes entire folkways after one battle. What is worse is the endless talking by uninteresting characters. I hope he end this series. Jun 07, Angus Whittaker rated it did not like it Shelves: read-in I only wish I could give this thing negative stars. It is bad - laughably bad. Or cry-ably bad. For starters, everyone in the novel is an idiot, and I mean that as sincerely as possible. The entire cast has about half a cup of intelligence between them, though Harry Turtledove seems to think they're all sharp as tacks. He repeatedly tells us how clever and wry his characters are, even as they spout their idiotic nonsense ineffectually masquerading as wit. Turtledove seems to have only enough ima I only wish I could give this thing negative stars. Turtledove seems to have only enough imagination for about five different types of scenes in the whole book. One of them, which he returns to over and over, is the "clever [not] characters plotting their ingenious [not] next move" scene. He makes full use of this particular scene, using it over and over throughout the book from the POV of both the idiotic slaves who are rebelling and the idiotic masters who are trying to put them back down. Here's the typical dialogue - it applies to each of these scenes equally, since in essence they're the same: Idiot One: Now we're in a tight spot. I wish we weren't, but we are. Idiot Two: We need to , that's what we need to do! One: Well, you won't here me say this often, but you're right. Two: Damned right I'm right! One: Only trouble is, that's easier to say than it is to do. Two: Oh. I hadn't thought of that. One: Only question is, how do we go about doing it? I kid you not, this is the average quality of the book. The rest of the dialogue follows the same pattern, no matter what the subject matter, speakers, or situation: a bunch of dipwads proudly displaying their stupidity in the mistaken belief that it is what's known as "wit. Besides the dialogue, which I have already ranted about enough, the plot is equally horrible. You'd think that a disciple of history such as Turtledove would know enough about the past to have some vague inkling of how an alternate one might play out - after all, his main writing genre is alternate history. But, although in other books he might display more prowess in this line, 'Liberating Atlantis' was not his finest hour as a historical theorist. The course history takes in the novel would only make sense if every single person in the world had the brains of a pygmy shrew. Of course, in this novel every single person DOES have the sense of a shrew, but this does not make the story any more believable. Here's the basic course the story takes: slaves rebel after years of mistreatment so far so good. The slave army grows larger as more slaves throw down their hoes and pick up rifles. Unfortunately, the government of Atlantis consists of two asswipes who never learned how to play nicely together. Say what you will about politicians, I find it hard to believe that a pair of clowns such as Stafford and Newton could ever be elected into an office higher than Assistant Regional Under Secretary's Helper. Anyway, the two consuls as they're known bicker and fight their way down into southern Atlantis, where the uprising is. They proceed to bicker and fight like two little girls for the next half of the book, while their general spouts words of European strategical "wisdom" he picked up on earlier campaigns. And, by the way, all of this is what Turtledove calls a "war. Anyway, I won't give away any more of the book than that, in case any of my readers are not fully persuaded by this scathing review and must pick up the book to see for themselves if it could possibly be as bad as I say. Suffice it to say that the ending is no better than the beginning, and the middle is worse than both. Jun 28, Marla rated it liked it. It was a good alternative history of the Civil War, the slaves forming an army instead of the North fighting the South, but there wasn't much that made it distinctively "Atlantian" besides the addition of a Radcliff. I wouldn't mind if he wrote more in this series, maybe have more interactions with "Terranova". But overall I liked the series and the idea behind it. Jan 10, redbees rated it did not like it Shelves: read-in Plodding, repetitive, points are sledgehammered home. Clumsy and trite. Nov 19, Clay Davis rated it really liked it. A good story about people fighting for their freedom. Jun 06, Ray rated it it was ok. Reading this book was like plowing a field with a teaspoon. Pretty much a tedious labor. Oct 17, Fred added it. Good alternate history. Jan 02, Aaron rated it it was amazing. In the third volume to this series, which is set in a world where everything west of the Mississippi River was separate from the American mainland. This separate continent has allowed history to form differently. In the first two books, Atlantis was settle by the English, French and Spanish before a Rebellion took place. Hitler's Plan A was to win in a hurry, striking hard and deep into France. There was no Plan B. Now the war grinds on, and countries have been forced into strange alliances. Once Hitler finished dismembering Czechoslovakia, he was ready to go to war over Poland a year later. But Hitler had always been eager to seize Czechoslovakia, no matter the consequences. So what if England and France had stood up to the Nazis from the start, and not 11 months later? That is the question behind the War That Came Early series. In Harry Turtledove's mesmerizing alternate history of World War II, the choices of men and fate have changed history. Now it is the winter of As the Germans, with England and France on their side, slam deep into Russia, Stalin's terrible machine fights for its life. But the agreements of world leaders do not touch the hearts of soldiers. The war between Germany and Russia is rocked by men with the courage to aim their guns in a new direction. England is the first to be shaken. A generation after the South wins the Civil War, it annexes critical territory in Mexico. Outraged, the United States declares total war. This time the American army faces danger on all sides--Confederates, outlaws, Apaches, French, and even the British. George Custer and Teddy Roosevelt fight hard and give the Americans hope. In this extraordinary World War II alternate history, master storyteller Harry Turtledove begins with a big switch: what if Neville Chamberlain, instead of appeasing Hitler, had stood up to him in ? Enraged, Hitler reacts by lashing out at the West, promising his soldiers that they will reach Paris by the new year. Turtledove is alway wordy.. This takes the cake. Never ending repetitive philoshophic debates and self-reflections. Little action. Not even sure cutting it from 17 hrs. Sufered through it just to finish series. Cannnot think of anyone. Narrated by: Todd McLaren. Series: Atlantis Turtledove , Book 3. Length: 17 hrs and 3 mins. Add to Cart failed. 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