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Third Session – Forty-First Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable Myrna Driedger Speaker Vol. LXXI No. 80B - 1:30 p.m., Thursday, October 25, 2018 ISSN 0542-5492 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Forty-First Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation ALLUM, James Fort Garry-Riverview NDP ALTEMEYER, Rob Wolseley NDP BINDLE, Kelly Thompson PC CLARKE, Eileen, Hon. Agassiz PC COX, Cathy, Hon. River East PC CULLEN, Cliff, Hon. Spruce Woods PC CURRY, Nic Kildonan PC DRIEDGER, Myrna, Hon. Charleswood PC EICHLER, Ralph, Hon. Lakeside PC EWASKO, Wayne Lac du Bonnet PC FIELDING, Scott, Hon. Kirkfield Park PC FLETCHER, Steven, Hon. Assiniboia Man. FONTAINE, Nahanni St. Johns NDP FRIESEN, Cameron, Hon. Morden-Winkler PC GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Lib. GOERTZEN, Kelvin, Hon. Steinbach PC GRAYDON, Clifford Emerson Ind. GUILLEMARD, Sarah Fort Richmond PC HELWER, Reg Brandon West PC ISLEIFSON, Len Brandon East PC JOHNSON, Derek Interlake PC JOHNSTON, Scott St. James PC KINEW, Wab Fort Rouge NDP KLASSEN, Judy Kewatinook Lib. LAGASSÉ, Bob Dawson Trail PC LAGIMODIERE, Alan Selkirk PC LAMONT, Dougald St. Boniface Lib. LAMOUREUX, Cindy Burrows Lib. LATHLIN, Amanda The Pas NDP LINDSEY, Tom Flin Flon NDP MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood NDP MARCELINO, Flor Logan NDP MARCELINO, Ted Tyndall Park NDP MARTIN, Shannon Morris PC MAYER, Colleen, Hon. St. Vital PC MICHALESKI, Brad Dauphin PC MICKLEFIELD, Andrew Rossmere PC MORLEY-LECOMTE, Janice Seine River PC NESBITT, Greg Riding Mountain PC PALLISTER, Brian, Hon. Fort Whyte PC PEDERSEN, Blaine, Hon. Midland PC PIWNIUK, Doyle Arthur-Virden PC REYES, Jon St. Norbert PC SARAN, Mohinder The Maples Ind. SCHULER, Ron, Hon. St. Paul PC SMITH, Andrew Southdale PC SMITH, Bernadette Point Douglas NDP SMOOK, Dennis La Verendrye PC SQUIRES, Rochelle, Hon. Riel PC STEFANSON, Heather, Hon. Tuxedo PC SWAN, Andrew Minto NDP TEITSMA, James Radisson PC WHARTON, Jeff, Hon. Gimli PC WIEBE, Matt Concordia NDP WISHART, Ian Portage la Prairie PC WOWCHUK, Rick Swan River PC YAKIMOSKI, Blair Transcona PC 3795 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Thursday, October 25, 2018 The House met at 1:30 p.m. Committee Membership Madam Speaker: Good afternoon, everybody. • Hon. Mrs. COX Please be seated. • Hon. Mr. FIELDING • Mr. LAMONT ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS • Ms. MARCELINO (Logan) Madam Speaker: Introduction of bills? • Hon. Mrs. MAYER • Mr. PIWNIUK COMMITTEE REPORTS • Mrs. SMITH (Point Douglas) Standing Committee on • Mr. SMITH (Southdale) Social and Economic Development • Mr. SMOOK (Chairperson) Fourth Report • Hon. Mrs. STEFANSON Mr. Dennis Smook (Chairperson): Madam • Mr. WIEBE Speaker, I wish to present the Fourth Report of the Substitution received during committee proceedings: Standing Committee on Social and Economic Development. • Ms. LAMOUREUX for Mr. LAMONT Clerk (Ms. Patricia Chaychuk): Your Standing Your Committee elected Mr. PIWNIUK as the Committee on Social and Economic Development– Vice-Chairperson. Some Honourable Members: Dispense. Public Presentations Madam Speaker: Dispense. Your Committee heard the following five presentations on Bill (No. 8) – The Government Your Standing Committee on Social and Economic Notices Modernization Act (Various Acts Amended) / Development presents the following as its Fourth Loi sur la modernisation de la publication des avis Report. du gouvernement (modification de diverses lois): Meetings Kim MacAulay, Manitoba Community Newspapers Your Committee met on October 24, 2018 at 6:00 Association (MCNA) p.m. in Room 254 of the Legislative Building. Brent Wright, Gilroy Publishing Laurie Finley, Steinbach Carillon – Publisher Matters under Consideration Jim Mihaly, Brandon Sun - Publisher • Bill (No. 8) – The Government Notices Dan Koshowski, The Winnipeg Free Press Modernization Act (Various Acts Amended) / Loi Your Committee heard the following presentation on sur la modernisation de la publication des avis Bill (No. 12) – The Red Tape Reduction and du gouvernement (modification de diverses lois) Government Efficiency Act, 2018 / Loi de 2018 sur la • Bill (No. 12) – The Red Tape Reduction and réduction du fardeau administratif et l'efficacité du Government Efficiency Act, 2018 / Loi de 2018 gouvernement: sur la réduction du fardeau administratif et George Fraser, Remedial Massage Therapist Society l'efficacité du gouvernement of Manitoba Inc. • Bill (No. 24) – The Social Services Appeal Your Committee heard the following five Board Amendment Act / Loi modifiant la Loi sur presentations on Bill (No. 24) – The Social Services la Commission d'appel des services sociaux Appeal Board Amendment Act / Loi modifiant la Loi sur la Commission d'appel des services sociaux: • Bill (No. 27) – The Fiscal Responsibility and Taxpayer Protection Amendment Act / Loi Carlos Sosa, Private Citizen modifiant la Loi sur la responsabilité financière Sylvie Sabourin Grindle, Private Citizen et la protection des contribuables Janet Forbes, Inclusion Winnipeg 3796 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA October 25, 2018 Karen Sharma, Manitoba Human Rights Bills Considered and Reported Commission • Megan Linton, Charter Rights For All Bill (No. 8) – The Government Notices Modernization Act (Various Acts Amended) / Loi Written Submissions sur la modernisation de la publication des avis du gouvernement (modification de diverses lois) Your Committee received the following nine written submissions on Bill (No. 8) – The Government Your Committee agreed to report this Bill, without Notices Modernization Act (Various Acts Amended) / amendment. Loi sur la modernisation de la publication des avis • Bill (No. 12) – The Red Tape Reduction and du gouvernement (modification de diverses lois): Government Efficiency Act, 2018 / Loi de 2018 Lynn Taylor, Thompson Citizen – Nickel Belt News sur la réduction du fardeau administratif et Nancy Johnson, Prairie Newspaper Group, Glacier l'efficacité du gouvernement Media Your Committee agreed to report this Bill, without J Brodt, Private Citizen amendment. Samantha Gallaway-Boulbria, Private Citizen Andrea Geary, Private Citizen • Bill (No. 24) – The Social Services Appeal Luanne Anderson, Private Citizen Board Amendment Act / Loi modifiant la Loi sur Mark Buss, Clipper Publishing la Commission d'appel des services sociaux John Kendle, Canstar Community News Your Committee agreed to report this Bill, without Christine Waddell, Private Citizen amendment. Your Committee received the following four written • Bill (No. 27) – The Fiscal Responsibility submissions on Bill (No. 12) – The Red Tape and Taxpayer Protection Amendment Act / Loi Reduction and Government Efficiency Act, 2018 / modifiant la Loi sur la responsabilité financière Loi de 2018 sur la réduction du fardeau et la protection des contribuables administratif et l'efficacité du gouvernement: Your Committee agreed to report this Bill, without Andrew Tod, Manitoba Federation of Labour amendment. Joe Masi, Association of Manitoba Municipalities Kevin Hamilton, College of Pharmacists of Manitoba Mr. Smook: I move, seconded by the honourable Jonathan Alward, Canadian Federation of member for Arthur-Virden (Mr. Piwniuk), that the Independent Business report of the committee be received. Motion agreed to. Your Committee received the following four written submissions on Bill (No. 24) – The Social Services TABLING OF REPORTS Appeal Board Amendment Act / Loi modifiant la Loi Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Minister of Education and sur la Commission d'appel des services sociaux: Training): It's my pleasure to table the following Patrick Falconer, Private Citizen reports this afternoon: The Apprenticeship and Michael Barkman, Make Poverty History Certification Board 2017-2018 Annual Report; Sheree Capar, CUPE Brandon University Annual Financial Report for Kevin Rebeck, Manitoba Federation of Labour the year ended March 31st, 2018; The University of Manitoba 2018 Annual Financial Report; Your Committee received the following three the Financial Statements of the Université de written submissions on Bill (No. 27) – The Fiscal Saint-Boniface; Red River College Annual Financial Responsibility and Taxpayer Protection Amendment Report 2017-2018; The University of Winnipeg Act / Loi modifiant la Loi sur la responsabilité Consolidated Financial Statements for the year ended financière et la protection des contribuables: March 31st, 2018; and the University College of the Laurene Myrvold, Private Citizen North's Annual Report 2017-2018. Lynne Fernandez, Canadian Centre for Policy Madam Speaker: I am pleased to table the report of Alternatives Manitoba the Auditor General on eChart Manitoba, dated Jonathan Alward, Canadian Federation of October 2018, in accordance with section 28(1) of Independent Business The Auditor General Act. October 25, 2018 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 3797 Ministerial statements? in Hansard, including one past member of the Legislature. MEMBERS' STATEMENTS Madam Speaker: Is there leave to include those Newly Elected Municipal Councillors names in Hansard? [Agreed] Mr. Derek Johnson (Interlake): I rise in the House Newly elected officials. LUD of Alonsa– today to congratulate the newly elected officials from William Cabak, Stan Fashoway, Harry our recent election. Of course, I especially want to Harris. RM of Alonsa–Reeve: Stan Asham; recognize the community leaders who have chosen to Councillors: Michael Brown, Eldon Campbell, Terry run in my constituency of Interlake. 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