ועד הכשרות דבאלטימאר STAR-K KOSHER CERTIFICATION Kashrus KurrentsVOLUME 38 NO. 2 Spring 5776–2016

A Crystal-Clear 101 HALACHIC APPROACH Oven Kashrus to USING THE SAME OVEN FOR Glass MEAT, DAIRY, FISH, & PAREVE RABBI TZVI ROSEN RABBI DOVID HEBER EDITOR, KASHRUS KURRENTS KASHRUS ADMINISTRATOR Glass is one of nature’s most versatile products If your kitchen is equipped with four ovens – for meat, dairy, created from some of nature’s most prevalent pareve and fish you don’t need to read this article. However, if you raw materials: sand, soda and lime. In the food do not have such a luxury, you will find various halachic details industry, glass applications are extremely diverse. enumerated below quite relevant. Glass can be made into delicate drinking glasses, There are numerous factors involved in an oven “going back and as well as tough heat resistant ceramic cooktops forth” between meat and dairy or using an oven for fish or pareve.1 tops withstanding temperatures over 1000°F. They include the following: a) The oven – Is it clean? Was it kashered? How is glass made? Basically, the raw ingredients are When was it last used? b) The food – Is it liquid? Is it covered? When heated and melted in a large furnace. The molten glass was it prepared? c) Does the question arise to do the action l’chatchila is shaped, blown, or pressed into its desired shape. The (I can do this) or is it only okay b’dieved (it already happened)? finished product is then annealed in an annealing oven Note: The halachos addressed are based on the and tempered to give the newly formed glass strength psak of HaRav Moshe Heinemann, shlit”a, and durability. Rabbinic Administrator of STAR-K Kosher Although glass can be made to be stronger and less Certification.2 The article addresses porous than steel, the halachic status of glass remains only the issues involved with regular enigmatic. On the one hand, Chazal recognized the gas or electric ovens – not cooktops, fact that glass is tough, resistant and non-porous. toaster ovens, broilers, microwave On the other hand, glass raw materials are the same ovens, grills, double ovens, warming as earthenware which is very porous, extremely drawers, blechs, or hot plates. These absorbent and unable to be kashered in a normal appliances are beyond the scope kashering fashion if the vessel was used in a hot non- of our discussion. It also does not kosher food application. address oven use on Pesach. How does halacha treat glass dishes and utensils? Below are a series of questions and answers about glass FOOD & OVEN CATEGORIES posed to Rabbi Moshe Heinemann, shlit”a, Rabbinic Administrator of STAR-K. There are two types of dishes that can be prepared in an oven. Dry3 foods GENERAL DEFINITIONS (e.g., bread dough) create reicha (aroma). Q: There are many varieties L’chatchila, we are concerned that reicha of glass on the market. Do will impart its aroma into other food in the arcoroc, Duralex, Pyrex, CONTINUED ON PAGE 3

Corelle and crystal have 1. This article will elaborate on issues addressed in previous Kashrus Kurrents articles by Rabbi Moshe Heinemann, the halachic status of shlit”a - Oven Kashrus: For Everyday Use, and Rabbi Tzvi Rosen - Home on the Range. It will focus primarily on using the same oven for different foods that cannot be eaten together and will also touch on how to cook kosher glass? food in a non-kosher oven and how to kasher an oven. Note: When we refer to a meat oven being compromised, A: Yes, they do. the same halacha applies to opposite cases. For example, if we say “one may not bake meat in an oven with dairy residue”, we also mean the opposite case – one may not bake dairy in an oven with meat residue. 2. Based on Shulchan Aruch Yoreh Deah siman 108, the nosai keilim, and poskim. Q: Is melmac like glass? 3. For further details, see footnote 10. A: No, melmac is plastic. Q: Is china like glass? A: It is customary to consider it Inside this issue as earthenware. A Crystal Clear Halachic Approach to Glass...... Page 1 Q: Is corningware like glass? Oven Kashrus 101...... Page 1 A: No, it is like china. Kashering Liver...... Page 5 Insights from the Institute...... Page 6 New Under STAR-K...... Page 7 CONTINUED ON PAGE 2

Leadership in Kashrus Education ACrystal-Clear HALACHIC APPROACH to RABBI TZVI ROSEN EDITOR, KASHRUS KURRENTS Glass

CONTINUED FROM PAGE 1 Q: Do display mirrors have the halachic status of ANTIQUES glass when used for food? Q: Can one purchase and utilize used or antique A: Yes. crystal bowls or glasses? A: Yes. BEVERAGE GLASSES Q: Can one use the same glass beverage glasses for Q: Do antique glasses require kashering? both dairy and meat meals? A: In pre-war Europe, where glass was expensive and hard A: Yes. to obtain, it was customary to kasher drinking glasses by immersing them in cold water for three periods of Q: Can these glasses be used for both hot and cold 24 hours. This is accomplished by submerging the beverages? glasses for one 24 hour period. The water should then be A: Yes. emptied, refilled, and allowed to sit for another 24 hours. This kashering method is known as miluy v’iruy. In WHISKEY GLASSES general, kashering glasses using the miluy v’iruy method Q: Can the same whiskey glasses be used for both is recommended only in cases of great expense. dairy and meat meals? However, nowadays the custom is not to kasher antique glasses if they are to be used only with cold liquids.1 A: B’dieved Q: Can one purchase used or antique crystal whiskey WASHING DISHES or wine bottles? Q: Can these beverage glasses be washed together A: No, it should be avoided. with the regular dishes after the conclusion of the meal? MICROWAVING A: If the dishes are hand washed in a dish basin, they may be Q: Can one use the same glass turntable in a washed together. If the dishes are washed in a dishwasher, microwave oven for microwaving both meat and the glasses should not be washed together. dairy dishes? A: No, it should be avoided. The turntable can be covered with styrofoam – one for meat and one for dairy. KLI RISHON & KLI SHEINI USAGE Q: What constitutes Kli Rishon & Kli Sheini? Q: If one used the glass turntable to microwave for both meat and dairy dishes, can the turntable be A: A utensil that is used for cooking, baking or kashered? roasting on the fire or in the oven is called a Kli A: Not recommended. Rishon (i.e., literally the first utensil). This would not be permitted for both dairy and meat. The next utensil into which hot food is transferred MEAT / DAIRY MIX-UPS is called a Kli Sheini (i.e., literally the second Q: If someone poured hot milk on a cold meat glass/pyrex utensil or hot meat on a cold dairy utensil), may be permitted under certain glass/pyrex utensil what should be done? circumstances. A: The dishes should be washed off with soap and water Q: Can one use the same glass utensil as a and not used for 24 hours. The glass/pyrex utensil kli rishon, to cook and bake both dairy and can then be used as it was originally designated. meat dishes? Q: If someone poured hot milk on a hot meat A: No. glass/pyrex utensil or hot meat on a hot dairy glass/pyrex utensil, what should be done? Q: Can one kasher a glass utensil that was used as a kli rishon for both meat and A: Ask a sheilah from your rav. dairy dishes? A: No. COUNTER SAVERS Q: Can the same corelle glass counter saver Q: Can other glass dishes, such as be used for meat and then for dairy hot salad bowls or casseroles, be used for utensils? both dairy and meat meals? A: Yes, but the glass has to be cleaned of any A: If the food is cold, or the glass dish is used residual spills. A corning glass counter saver as a kli sheini, it may be used for both should not be used for both meat and dairy dairy and meat meals. Unless it is used hot utensils. in the oven or on the range, a kli sheini is okay. CONTINUED ON PAGE 4

1. See M.B. OC 451:26 and M.B. OC 151-157.

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RABBI DOVID HEBER KASHRUS ADMINISTRATOR

CONTINUED FROM PAGE 1 oven. However, in general, reicha from “dry” food has no meat, one should first wait for the oven (which must be impact on other keilim (vessels) in the oven. clean) to cool down. Liquidy foods (e.g., a pan of meat that has gravy) create One should, l’chatchila, not bake an open liquid dairy zayah (steam). Under certain conditions, zayah will cause item in a meat oven, even if the oven has no meat residue. other “opposite” foods and keilim in the oven to become non- B’dieved, if one baked an open liquid dairy item in a clean kosher. If the pan is covered, there is generally no zayah (or aino ben yomo oven after a liquid (or dry) meat item, the reicha) issue, even though some steam might escape. product is kosher. If the open liquid meat product had been Foods that are “charif”, including spicy or hot heated in the oven within the previous 24 hours foods (e.g., a dish with hot sauce) may also (ben yomo), and then an open liquid dairy impart flavor when cooked uncovered in product was heated in this oven, the keilim an oven. and oven may be non-kosher. A rav should be consulted. Another important factor is when the oven was last used. An oven that “Clean” means there is no meat was used within the past 24 hours residue in the oven. If meat fell to prepare hot meat or hot dairy or gravy spilled and became is called a “ben yomo”. If it has charred enough, forming a black not been used to prepare meat or powdery substance (i.e., it can be dairy within the past 24 hours, it pulverized by scratching it), or is an “aino ben yomo”. In cases of just left a stain, one may bake aino ben yomo, the halachos are dry dairy in it (as previously typically more lenient than for a indicated) as this substance no ben yomo. longer has the halachic status of meat. However, if there are pieces of meat or gravy that have USING AN OVEN FOR not become charred, the oven is BOTH MEAT & DAIRY still considered fleishig and it is If a pan with meat and a pan with prohibited to bake uncovered dairy in dairy are covered, one may place both of it. them in an oven l’chatchila.4 This is true, The ideal way to use an oven for both meat provided that the pans do not touch each other and dairy is to designate it as either meat or dairy. and do not touch the “opposite” food (e.g., a meat pan may For example, if a family designates their oven for meat the not rest on a rack with dairy residue). following guidelines would apply: If only one pan is covered and is on the lower shelf, it Liquid or dry meat may be baked even if open, provided is also muttar l’chatchila. An uncovered meat pan that that the oven remains clean. May’ikker hadin, dry dairy contains liquid may not be placed below a dairy pan in the items (even if open) may be baked in the oven after the oven (even if the top pan is covered). open meat has been removed and the oven has cooled down. It is prohibited for one to bake milk and meat products However, open liquid dairy items must be covered. Some uncovered at the same time in an oven. B’dieved, if one erred advise to always cover the dairy item, even if it is dry.10 As and baked dairy food and a meat product in the oven at the previously indicated, the same halachos apply in a vice- same time (in different pans), the following halachos apply: versa case, (i.e., for a meat pan in a dairy oven). •• If both the milk and meat dishes were uncovered, and One should not, l’chatchila, place meat directly (i.e., they were not liquidy and not charif (sharp), everything without a pan) on the oven racks or floor of the oven, unless is b’dieved kosher.5 If either the pan with meat or the it is used exclusively for meat; the same is true regarding pan with dairy is liquidy6 or sharp (and they are both dairy. uncovered), the oven and all the food in the oven may be treif and the keilim (vessels) used with these dishes may BAKING PAREVE IN A MEAT OR DAIRY OVEN require kashering.7 One may, l’chatchila, bake an open bread or cake (or any •• If two pans touch, the following applies: If a pan with other dry pareve item) in an oven that was designated for meat touched a pan with dairy in the oven (and there meat and then eat it with dairy, as long as the oven is clean was no residue on the outside of either one), the food and and there is no uncovered meat in the oven at the same time. keilim are b’dieved kosher.8 Alternatively, one may bake a covered pareve item in an •• If a meat oven is clean, one may bake a dry, uncovered oven with uncovered (or covered) meat and eat it with dairy. (or covered) dairy item in it.9 It is not necessary to first If uncovered bread or cake (or another pareve item) kasher the oven or wait 24 hours. If one wants to bake was baked in an oven at the same time as dry meat or in an a dry, uncovered dairy item immediately after cooking unclean meat oven, one may not eat it with dairy. However,

CONTINUED ON PAGE 4 4. It is not advisable to put one pan above the other in order to avoid the contents of the top pan from dripping into the bottom pan. 10. See Igros Moshe (Yoreh Deah 1:40), who elaborates on this topic and indicates that there seem 5. This is because, b’dieved, raicha is “lav milsa”. to be two different categories of “dry” food. In a case of food that is dry, the Pri Megadim (see 6. So it has “zayah”. Pischei Teshuva Yoreh Deah 92:6) was mesupek (in doubt), but in a case of “yavesh mamash” (very 7. Consult your rav. One example of a case that a rav could be matir (allow) the food is if the milk dry), it is clearly permissible. Rav Heinemann, shlit”a, explained that it is for this reason that some in the dairy dish is batel b’shishim in the meat dish. individuals always cover dry dairy food in a meat oven, as it may be difficult to ascertain whether 8. This is known as “shtay kedairos”. If there was residue, consult your rav. the food is liquid, “yavesh” or “yavesh mamash”. Nonetheless, may’ikker hadin, one can be maykil 9. See footnote 10 and place not only cookies but also cake, as well as uncovered pizza, in a clean meat oven.

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CONTINUED FROM PAGE 3 the pan remains pareve and one does not have to wait six chutz la’aretz, the entire challah one is mafrish need not be hours to eat dairy after eating the bread or cake. B’dieved, fully wrapped.13 It is enough for the challah to rest on a piece if one later added dairy to this bread (e.g., spread butter) the of foil, partially wrapped underneath, to ensure it does not bread may be eaten. touch the rack. If the challah was burned while touching a 14 If one bakes uncovered cake with uncovered meat that rack, the rack needs to be kashered. was liquidy, one may not eat it with dairy and the pareve If one wants to cook in a treif oven, the kosher food should pan becomes fleishig. If the cake did not acquire a meat be double wrapped. That is why kosher airline meals heated taste, one does not have to wait six hours after eating the in treif ovens are double wrapped. cake. However, if the meat was liquidy, and the pareve item If one baked an open kosher liquid item in a clean treif (e.g., kugel or cake) has a meat taste, one should wait six oven that had been used within the past 24 hours, the hours after eating the pareve item. Similar halachos apply product may be treif.15 However, if one baked an open dry to pareve that was baked with liquid dairy (and both pans kosher item in a clean oven that heated tarfus within the were uncovered). past 24 hours, b’dieved, the food is kosher. If one baked a Meat or dairy bread is generally prohibited,11 and if one dry or liquid item in a clean treif oven that has not been used bakes bread or challos with uncovered meat that is liquidy at all16 within the past 24 hours, the food is, b’dieved, kosher. the bread may become non-kosher. Pareve challos baked in If an oven becomes treif or if one wishes to kasher an an oven at the same time as dry meat (even if they are both oven from milchigs to fleishigs,17 or vice versa,18 it can be uncovered) is permissible. As indicated above, one may not kashered by self-cleaning it or by cleaning it with EZ-Off eat such challos with dairy. and then heating it to 550o F (or broil) for 40 minutes. 19 This method of kashering is called “libun kal”. When kashering FISH AND MEAT ISSUES an oven in this manner, it is not necessary to first wait 24 hours.20 One may not bake uncovered fish at the same time as uncovered meat or in a fleishig oven that is not clean. The kitchen of a Yiddishe homemaker is regularly However, one may bake fish (even if uncovered, with or occupied with family members preparing numerous meals without liquid) in a clean meat oven or with covered meat. and dishes, as well as various delicacies l’kavod Shabbos If one baked (or reheated) uncovered challos in an oven at and Yom Tov, and other special occasions. Knowing how the same time as uncovered meat (liquid or dry) one may to navigate from milk to meat, and vice versa, ensures that not, l’chatchila, eat the challos with fish. One should be these savory dishes are – and remain – 100% kosher. extra cautious on Erev Shabbos, when there is a rush before lighting candles, not to heat uncovered items that may not be heated together. 13. This is advisable so it adequately burns efficiently. 14. Ideally with libun gamur, but b’shaas had’chak some matir with libun kal. Consult a rav. ADDITIONAL IMPORTANT OVEN HALACHOS 15. Consult a rav. 16. If it was used within the past 24 hours but not with any tarfus, or one is not sure when it was One may be mafrish challah and burn it in the oven, but last used, consult a rav. 12 17. Although hagola may not be performed on a fleishig vessel to now use it for milchig, libun kal the “challah” must be in foil and not touch the racks. In (e.g., the method described above in the article) and libun gamur (e.g., with a blow torch until each area turns red hot – another method of kashering an oven, but typically not practical in one’s home) 11. Chazal prohibited most types of breads that are made with dairy or meat ingredients (e.g., it is may be performed to switch a kli from fleishig to milchig (and vice versa). generally assur to add milk or meat to flour when baking a loaf of bread). For a full discussion of 18. Or from meat or dairy to pareve. this topic, see Shulchan Aruch Y.D. Siman 97. 19. For more details and information on kashering an oven or cooktop, oven use on Shabbos and 12. The challah should also not be burned at the same time one is cooking in the oven (i.e., don’t Yom Tov, as well as general appliance information for the kosher home, see www.star-k.org. burn the “challah” in the oven while the loaves of bread are baking). Either burn the challah in a 20. Unlike hagola, a 24 hour “down time” is not necessary when kashering with libun kal or libun different oven (e.g., toaster oven) or burn it before (or, if necessary, after) baking the bread. gamur. ACrystal-Clear HALACHIC APPROACH toGlass CONTINUED FROM PAGE 2 GLASS TOP STOVES Q: How do you kasher a glass stovetop? A: The elements of the stove should be turned on until they The only practical method of kashering a glasstop that come to a glow. The glass burner areas are now considered requires kosherization (i.e., when one moves into an kosher. However, the remaining areas that do not get hot apartment with a glasstop) is to keep the non-kashered are not kashered. Real kosherization can be accomplished areas clean. If there is a spill, the burner areas will burn by holding a blowtorch over the glass until it is hot off the spill and the burners will automatically be re- kashered. The non-burner areas should be cleaned from enough to singe a piece of newspaper upon contact with any residual spill so that it will not “assur” a utensil that the glass. However, this may cause the glass to shatter and was placed on the surface in error. is not recommended.

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Liver RABBI MOSHE HEINEMANN STAR-K RABBINIC ADMINISTRATOR

Before one is permitted to indulge in kosher Jewish cavity. Blood splatter would render the walls of the oven delicacies such as chopped liver, liver steaks and onions, or broiler treif. A practical solution is to place a pan under or sauteed chicken livers, raw liver must undergo various the rack or grate to catch the dripping blood and juices; processes before the liver is deemed fit for kosher use. the pan will become treif. The rack or grate should not be First, as with all kosher meat, the liver must come from a used for anything except kashering liver, unless proper kosher species of animal or fowl that has been schechted, kosherization procedures are employed to kasher the grates, slaughtered, in the proper manner prescribed by the Torah. racks, and/or utensils. If it is an animal liver, all the fat must be meticulously Any utensil used in the broiling process, such as a fork, removed. Furthermore, the Torah forbids eating the blood should be set aside and used exclusively for livers. It is a of an animal or bird. Therefore, it is necessary to extract the meritorious practice to burn the fork and all the utensils blood from the kosher slaughtered meat or liver. used in the broiling process in fire before the next time liver How is the blood removed? With meat, this process is is to be kashered. commonly known as kashering and is accomplished by It is customary to turn the liver or the liver slices during soaking the meat in water, salting it, and then rewashing the broiling process from time to time to facilitate a more it. With liver, this method of extraction is insufficient. even and uniform broiling. It is also customary to broil liver Since liver contains such a large concentration of blood, the until the outer juices have ceased flowing, and the liver is technique used for kashering liver is broiling. dry on the outside. The liver need not be burnt. The kashered liver is washed off under cold water three PREPARATION times, in order to remove the salt that has absorbed the blood Kashering by broiling is done in the following manner. If as well as any blood found on the outer surface of the liver. a whole animal liver, e.g., beef or calf liver, is to be kashered, If these procedures have been followed, and red juice exudes deep criss-cross cuts should be made throughout the liver in from the liver interior, the liquid is not considered blood and various places. This will facilitate the flow of blood out of is permitted to be eaten. the liver. To this end, the cuts should lie face down during When the kashered liver is cut open, one may find that the broiling. A more practical way of kashering cow or calf the color of the interior liver is a shade of green, tan, light liver is to slice the liver into pieces of uniform thickness. If brown, pink, or deep brown. The only questionable color the liver is kashered in this fashion, criss-cross cuts need not is deep brown, the color of unkashered raw liver. This be made. color indicates that the liver was not broiled thoroughly. Chicken livers or livers of other species of fowl can be The unkashered deep brown part of the liver should be re- broiled whole, without cutting the surface. Care must be broiled or discarded. taken that the gall bladder, which is green in color and After the liver has been broiled and kashered, it is cylindrical in shape, has been removed from the liver. regarded as any other piece of kosher meat which can be fried or roasted in a kosher meat pot, pan, or roaster without any reservation. Furthermore, liver does not have to be broiled THE PROCESS within 72 hours of kosher slaughter. If it was not broiled The actual broiling process may now begin. The liver or within this time, there are different halachic opinions as slices of liver that are to be kashered should be thoroughly to whether one may cook, fry, or roast this liver after it has washed off in cold water and placed on a grate of fireproof been kashered. It is also questionable as to whether one material. The grate must be constructed in such a way that would be allowed to soak the liver in liquid 24 hours or it does not inhibit the free-flow of blood or other juices from more. A competent rabbinic authority should be consulted. the liver. The blood and juices should drip or run to a place Also, if one used the regular soaking and salting kashering where they have no further physical contact with the liver. technique on liver in error, a halachic authority should be The liver is then lightly salted on both sides. It is customary consulted. to put at least the amount of salt that would give the liver a good taste. The salting is used as an aid to the fire to facilitate There are a few pertinent points to keep in mind when extracting the blood. If one wants to use more salt, one is broiling liver: permitted to do so. •• It is common for blood and juices to run out of raw liver. However, salting the liver is not compulsory and The raw liver may not lie in this liquid for more than 24 the broiling process can be accomplished without it. consecutive hours. If it did, a Torah authority should be Consequently, people who are restricted to a low sodium diet consulted about the liver, plate and bowl. may omit salting the liver due to medical considerations. •• One may broil liver on a rotisserie spit, provided the The salting step may be omitted only when kashering liver liver is washed after it has been placed on the spit before or meat through broiling. If meat is to be kashered through broiling and the rotisserie does not revolve constantly soaking and salting, it is forbidden to exclude the salting during the broiling process. from the process. •• The pieces of liver may be touching one another during the broiling process, if so desired. THE FIRE •• Frozen liver should be completely thawed out before It is preferable to broil the liver on a fire source that is attempting to broil it, otherwise the liver will not be directly below the liver. If that is not feasible, one may broil broiled all the way through. liver from a heat source above the liver. Hence, it would be permissible to broil liver in a broiler or electric oven if that Editor’s Note: The previous Special Meat Edition of Kashrus Kurrents is the only broiling source available. If the oven or broiler is was very enthusiastically received. One aspect of kashering, however, was used for kosher food as well, care should be taken to assure not addressed – the kashering of liver. We are now pleased to include this article as a supplement to the article by HaRav Moshe Heinemann, shlit”a, that the blood does not splatter onto the oven or broiler article regarding kosher meat.

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the RABBI MORDECHAI FRANKEL Institute DIRECTOR, THE INSTITUTE OF HALACHAH

Q: When is the brocha of Hatov Vehameitiv (i.e., when benching over a cup of wine), one recites Borei recited over wine? Pri Hagofen over the second cup and Hatov Vehameitiv is not recited.11

Two or more people must drink together from both of A: Before drinking a cup of wine, one recites the of brocha the wines. If a person is eating with a guest (who does not . Under certain circumstances, if a different Borei Pri Hagofen share in the ownership of the wine), both of the wines wine is subsequently drunk one recites an additional blessing must have been placed on the table and made available - the of .1 The gives thanks brocha Hatov Vehameitiv brocha to the guest should he want more. If a husband and wife to for blessing the person with a richness of wine. Hashem or parent and child are eating together it is not necessary The Hebrew text of the is brocha for both of the wines to have been placed on the table and made available.12 Hatov Vehametiv is recited only ברוך אתה ה' אלקינו מלך העולם הטוב והמטיב2 when both people are eating together in the same room.13

This brocha is recited only if a number of conditions are The poskim debate the amount of wine that needs to be met: drunk when reciting Hatov Vehameitiv. Some say that one must drink a (approx. 4 fl. oz.) of wine from If the second wine is of lesser quality than the first wine, reviis 14 Hatov Vehameitiv is not recited.3 There is one exception each of the two wines. However, a number of poskim to this rule. If the first wine is red and the second one is say that one may recite the brocha when drinking any 15 white (but not the other way around), Hatov Vehameitiv amount of wine. is recited even if the second wine is known to be of Rav Elyashiv, zt”l, has been quoted as saying that Hatov slightly inferior quality. This is because Chazal consider Vehameitiv is recited only if both wines are intoxicating. white wine to be somewhat healthier than red wine.4 Therefore, if a person drinks grape juice and subsequently drinks wine, is not recited.16 If a person plans to drink two wines of different quality Hatov Vehameitiv during a meal, and both wines are available in his house, he should ideally recite Borei Pri Hagofen over the wine As the laws pertaining to the recitation of Hatov of superior quality and drink that wine first.5 Older Vehameitiv are complex, some have the custom never to vintage wine is assumed to be of superior quality, unless recite this brocha over wine.17 However, Rav Heinemann, one knows that this is not the case.6 shlit”a, paskens that if all of the above conditions are met 18 If a person intends to drink both wines which were Hatov Vehameitiv should be recited. available in the house before he started drinking, and he recited Borei Pri Hagofen and drank the inferior wine first, Hatov Vehameitiv is not recited over the superior wine.7 ______

1.1 שו”ע או”ח סי’ קעה, וכל הציונים להלן לדברי השו”ע ומפרשיו הם לסימן זו However, if a person was intending to drink only one 2.2 מ”ב ס”ק ב wine and subsequently decided to drink 3.3 שו”ע סעי’ ב a second wine, or if he was intending to 4.4 רמ”א שם ומ”ב שם ס”ק יב 5.5 שו”ע סעי’ ג drink two wines but the second wine 6.6 מ”ב ס”ק י was not in the house at the time that he 7.7 מ”ב ס”ק ד בשם הלחם חמודות, וכבר הקשו האחרונים שזה נראה כסותר מש”כ המ”ב שם started drinking the first wine, he ס”ק ה וס”ק יד, ועי’ במ”ב מהדורת ‘דרשו’ אות 9 בשם הגרח”פ שיינברג זצ”ל ובספר וזאת would recite הברכה בירור הלכה סי’ לח בשם הגרי”מ רובין מש”כ לתרץ, וממו”ר ר’ היינעמאן שליט”א Hatov Vehameitiv שמעתי שכיון שדברי המ”ב אינם מבוררים לנו כל צרכם מוטב שלא לברך בכה”ג שספק ברכות over the second wine if all the להקל other conditions were met.8 8.8 מ”ב שם 9.9 מ”ב ס”ק ג If the second wine was 1010 מ”ב ס”ק ב, וה”ה אם היו מסובין לשתות בלא אכילה כמש”כ המ”ב שם drunk only after the first bottle 1111מ”ב שם 1212מ”ב ס”ק טו of wine was finished, Hatov 1313מ”ב שם Vehameitiv is not recited. That 1414כף החיים ס”ק י ומהרש”ם בדעת תורה, והא”א מבוטשאטש מסתפק בזה is to say, Hatov Vehameitiv is 1515כן נראה מסתימת לשון המ”ב, וכ”כ הגר”ח נאה בספר קצות השלחן סי’ סא בדי השלחן אות ד recited over the second wine ובשו”ת אבני ישפה ח”א סי’ לח 1616שו”ת אבני ישפה שם וספר וזאת הברכה עמ’ only when the first wine is still 172 1717הגר”י באדנער שליט”א בספר ותן ברכה ח”ב עמ’ 44 כתב בזה”ל, “מידידי הגר”ש פעלדער available.9 שליט”א שמעתי מה שהורה מרן הגר”א קוטלר זצ”ל לתלמידיו שלא לברך מטעם שאין אנו מבינים על יינות אם טוב או רע”. אמנם כתב הגר”י באדנער שי”ל שזה היה לפי המצב לפני A person must drink from both כחמישים שנה שלא היה אז יין כשר ומשובח בשוק וסתם בן תורה לא היה לו מוסג ביין כלל אבל wines at the same meal.10 If one wine is בזמנינו יש מאות סוגים של יינות מעולים בשוק ועשרות אלף אנשים שנהנים ומעריכים את יינות drunk during the meal and the second המשובחים, והביא עוד שהגר”ח קנייבסקי שליט”א אמר שגם היום נוהגים לברך ברכת הטוב והמטיב עם שם ומלכות על שינוי יין. wine is drunk after Birchas Hamozon 1818שמעתי ממו”ר ר’ היינעמאן שליט”א

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