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Is It Possible to Intelligently Design and Then Deny the Inte Is It Possible to Intelligently Design and then Deny the Intelligent Desig... http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/is-it-possible-to-int... Home About Resources Search Uncommon Descent holds that... Materialistic ideology has subverted the study of biological and cosmological origins so that the actual content of these sciences has become corrupted. The problem, therefore, is not merely that science is being used illegitimately to promote a materialistic worldview, but that this worldview is actively undermining scientific inquiry, leading to incorrect and unsupported conclusions about biological and cosmological origins. At the same time, intelligent design (ID) offers a promising scientific alternative to materialistic theories of biological and cosmological evolution -- an alternative that is finding increasing theoretical and empirical support. Hence, ID needs to be vigorously developed as a scientific, intellectual, and cultural project. read more... Additional Descent Swarm Intelligence vs. Real Intelligence . Can all intelligence be reduced to the local, rule-governed interaction of unintelligent agents? Dawkins reviews Behe in the NYTimes . How many ad hominems can you count? $100,000,000 anonymous gift to University of Chicago … for 800 full scholarships per year to lower-income students. Bravo! THE EDGE OF EVOLUTION: THE SEARCH FOR THE LIMITS OF DARWINISM at Amazon.com … Michael Behe’s newest book is now available at booksellers. programmed by evolution to see design where there really isn’t any … and thus do evolutionary psychologists explain the resurgence of design Charles Colson weighs in on the Gonzalez tenure case Dawkins’s CV One colleague recently claimed that Dawkins’s record of peer-reviewed publications leaves something to be desired. The confusion in this case was due to Dawkins early in his career using his first name “Clinton.” In fact, Dawkins has a respectable publication record. –WmAD E. O. Wilson supports panspermia? Biomimicry — Nature as Model, Measure, and Mentor NOTA BENE: “nature’s best ideas,” “nature, imaginative by necessity, has already solved many of the problems we are grappling with,” and “conscious emulation of life’s genius is a survival strategy for the human race.” Leading scientists still reject God Survey of NAS scientists’ religious beliefs. Nature, Vol. 394, No. 6691, p. 313 1 of 16 7/21/2007 10:56 AM Is It Possible to Intelligently Design and then Deny the Intelligent Desig... http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/is-it-possible-to-int... more » · feed » Recent Comments PaV : Here's a criticism (really a slam) by PZ Myers regarding Piv... O'Leary : For what it is worth, I strongly recommend reading mainly th... j: Freelurker: "Engineering design is the result of the (emulat... DG : To retain my sanity, I try to remain cognisant of the wider... shaner74 : Did anybody happen to watch the NDE clip about the little gi... scordova : Lest I give the impression the neutralist like Nei and Kimur... gpuccio : Bob: "Firstly, and this might surprise you, Behe’s work... kairosfocus : Aquiescence: I see Prof Dembski has immediately pointed o... j: [Just for laughs:] Robert Pennock in Discover (Februa... 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PaV The tagline for the article from PhysOrg.com that I link to here, was “Nano propellers pump with proper chemistry.” Despite no mention being made of it, my immediate thought was: “Their design is based on what biological systems already do.” Then, perusing the article, after all the talk about what Petr Král is doing in his Univ. of Illinois lab, about how this pump works, etc, etc., we find the following: Král’s laboratory studies how biological systems, like tiny flagella that move bacteria, offer clues for building motors, motile systems and other nanoscale devices in a hybrid environment that combines biological and inorganic chemistry. I find it almost infuriating that there are labs like Petr Kral’s all over the world that are doing this kind of work every day, and, yet, our Darwinist brothers tell us that, unlike any potential contact with ET’s, in this case we cannot possible know anything about any Intelligent Designer. One has to ask the question: If the Intelligent Designer designed the universe, and the Designer’s intelligence is beyond anything we could possibly comprehened, then how is it that Einstein gave us a description of gravity, AND, in so doing say that his discovery was “like knowing the Mind of God”? In the particular case of Kral’s work, one has to ask: How is it possible to examine biological life, AND on the BASIS of what one SEES , then construct a molecular machine of heretofore unknown sophistication, and then, simultaneously maintain that no inference about any so-called Intelligent Designer can be made….”since we don’t know anything about Him–He’s beyond science”? Further, if biological systems contain no intelligence, how, then, can you study them? Why doesn’t some Darwinian-Believer answer that one? How can someone “learn” how to build a nanoscale molecular pump from such a study of extant biological systems and then have that very possibility denied by saying: “There’s no intelligence in what I’m studying. What are you talking about?”? Is this like Baron Munchhausen being able to pull himself out of the mud by pulling on his hair? Philisophically speaking, how can you “study” that which is, per your own definition, “incomprehensible”? Would Darwinists like to ‘fess up about all of this? These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. 6 of 16 7/21/2007 10:56 AM Is It Possible to Intelligently Design and then Deny the Intelligent Desig... http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/is-it-possible-to-int... Email This Post Print This Post This entry was posted Monday, July 16th, 2007 at 1:48 pm and is filed under Intelligent Design . You can leave a response , or trackback from your own site. 21 Responses 1 magnan 07/16/2007 3:36 pm “In the particular case of Kral’s work, one has to ask: How is it possible to examine biological life, AND on the BASIS of what one SEES, then construct a molecular machine of heretofore unknown sophistication, and then, simultaneously maintain that no inference about any so-called Intelligent Designer can be made…since we don’t know anything about Him–He’s beyond science”? Darwinists would presumably have no problem with these arguments. If a flagellum, for example, is an example of a complicated machine that merely appears to be designed, they agree that it does in fact incorporate an apparently engineered design. This is regardless of its true origin intelligent or not, and if intelligent regardless of ignorance of the nature of the Designer. There is then nothing contradictory about a human scientist taking this “blueprint” and its underlying principles and using them for human nanotechnology. “Further, if biological systems contain no intelligence, how, then, can you study them?” For the same reasons I don’t see the logic here.
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