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Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey New RUTGERS, THE STATE UNIVERSITY OF NEW JERSEY NEW BRUNSWICK AN INTERVIEW WITH DANIEL CSONTOS FOR THE RUTGERS ORAL HISTORY ARCHIVES INTERVIEW CONDUCTED BY MOLLY GRAHAM and RICHARD ALLEN SOUTH BOUND BROOK, NEW JERSEY MARCH 19, 2016 TRANSCRIPT BY JESSE BRADDELL Molly Graham: This is an oral history interview with Daniel Csontos. The interview is taking place on March 19, 2016. We are in South Bound Brook, and the interviewers are myself, Molly Graham, and I am joined by … Richard Allen: Richard Allen. Daniel Csontos: Rich Allen. MG: If you can just start by saying where and when you were born? DC: Well, I was born in 1925, South Bound Brook, and I'm still here, ninety years. [laughter] MG: Well, tell me a little bit about your family history, starting with your father's side. DC: Well, my father was the last one to come over here during World War I. The reason why, my grandfather, grandmother was already here, and he brought my two aunts and my two uncles, and when he went to get hold of my father, World War I broke out and the Hungarian Army grabbed him. So, he had to fight against us at that time. [laughter] So, after that was over, then he got married and, let's see, 1924 they came out here, Mom and him. I was born 1925, right in South Bound Brook. MG: What do you know about his growing up experience? DC: They lived on a farm in a place called Veszprém. I don't know how to explain it in English. They were farmers, and when they came out here, even when we lived down there by the canal there, we always had a garden, so my mother, she was fantastic. MG: What were the reasons your grandparents immigrated in the first place? DC: Well, because everybody was here except him, my father, and so he got married over there after the war and came over here after World War I. MG: His parents, how come they came over? DC: Whose parents? MG: Your father's parents. DC: Oh, I don't know. They came over much earlier, you know. I don't know anything about that. Grandfather was here and he brought the other two aunts and two uncles over for him, and my father was the last one to come over. MG: Do you know how he met your mother? DC: How I met my mother? 2 MG: No, how your father met his wife. DC: Oh, I don't know. That was started in Hungary. They were married in Hungary. A matter of fact, yes, that's why they came over in 1924. The war was over then, World War I. MG: What about his World War I experience do you know about? DC: All I know, he was what they call a housard. He was on a horse. He was on a horse and he was battling against the Russians, that's all I know. I got a picture of him, if you want to see it. [Editor's Note: Housard is a French word for a soldier in the cavalry]. MG: That would be interesting, yes. DC: Yes. MG: I do not want to make you get up though. DC: No, no. MG: Okay. DC: That is all right. That's all right. I lost my sea legs; I got to take it easy. RA: Sure. MG: Oh, wow. Was he in the Army? DC: Yes, he's like the cavalry, the cavalry, yes. MG: What was his name? DC: Alexander II. MG: Wow. DC: My brother was named Alexander III. He passed away. MG: There you go. That's a great picture. DC: Yes. That's Pops. Uniforms almost like ours, weren't they? MG: Yes. DC: I couldn't find those down below. Okay, what else? 3 MG: What is your mother's name? DC: My mother's name was Tevse, Theresa Csontos. She spelled it different. We always signed it T-H-E-R-E-S-A. She signs it T-E-V-S-E, something like that. Hungarian. We always used her regular Theresa here. [laughter] It was easier for us. She lived until she was eighty- three, some woman though. Boy, I'll tell you how she took care of four of us after my father died. [laughter] He died 1939. MG: Yes, he died relatively young. DC: Huh? MG: He was very young. DC: Very young, very young, but cancer at that time, they didn't have nothing for cancer at that time. We used to come home from school, and you can hear him moaning and moaning and after he died it was a relief. It was too much. He went down from two hundred to the time he was about into cancer, he was about ninety pounds. Matter of fact, the day before my birthday, he called me in the room there. How he knew, he wished me happy birthday. That was on the 16th, and on the 17th in the morning, he died. He had everything out of him, blood was finally hemorrhaged out, that was the last of his body. He was buried in Bound Brook Cemetery with my mother, same place. MG: What do you know about your mother's family history? DC: Nothing. All I know is her, one of her cousins came out here for about four months, and we took her all over and every place like that. I gave her a pill, the capsule, I forgot what it was for, but you're supposed to swallow the capsule. No, you know what she did? She took it apart. I said, "No, you don't take it apart. You swallow the whole thing." [laughter] I took her to New York. She met some of her buddies over there that was in that Russian Revolution they had there, and she had the address. So, I took her into New York, and she went there. Boy, a hard time. I didn't even think I'd get through New York like I did that day. Anyway, I was only about a block away, and I gave them the call. I told them where we're at, "Oh, it's just around the corner there." I said, "Oh, okay. I'll be right up." Then, she visited her friends that were over there during that time. She appreciated it. She was here about three months or four months with my mother, it was nice. [Editor's Note: The Russian Revolution began in March 1918 when Tsar Nicholas II was overthrown. This was followed by the Bolshevik Revolution, where Vladimir Lenin seized power. However, anti-Communist groups opposed this, and the ensuing Russian Civil War lasted until 1922.] MG: Did she ever share stories about growing up? DC: Who? 4 MG: Your mother. DC: No, no. They only go eight grades there, that's all. Grammar school, there's no high school at that time, eight grades there. She's a smart woman though; I don't know how she did it. MG: When your family immigrated here, did they come to South Bound Brook? DC: No, they came to New York. My aunt, she came out here, my aunt and uncle, and they took them in there until they got them straightened out and that way they came out here because his younger brother was already out there, had a farm out there in New Brunswick, off [Route] 27. He did good. He had about eighty acres there, and he did truck farming. So, all them old people did farming. So, he made out pretty good. He passed away, too. There's not many of us left here anymore. MG: Where did your parents settle when they came over? DC: Right here, South Bound Brook. MG: What did they do for work? DC: Well, my father worked for Ruberoid. Do you know Ruberoid? Do you know those apartments down there by the canal? It used to be a plant, Ruberoid. They made asbestos material, like shingles and all that stuff. That's where most of the whole town, South Bound Brook, worked. That's where most of them got that disease, asbestos. They tore that all down; they put up all new apartments. If you ever go down Main Street, when you come off the bridge from Bound Brook, on your left, all the way down, that was all one property for Ruberoid, and that was English owned. It made the place look pretty nice now, got rid of that damn asbestos. [Editor's Note: Ruberoid was merged with General Aniline & Film in 1967. The company then became known as GAF Materials Company, which is based out of Parsippany, New Jersey, and continues to operate today.] MG: Do you think that is how he got sick? DC: [What]? MG: Do you think that is how he got sick? DC: Who? MG: Your father. DC: Well, he worked in Calco. It's American Cyanamid, first, and then he worked in Ruberoid. Do you know where Cyanamid used to be? Do you know where the ballpark is, Somerset Patriots Ballpark? The Patriots. You don't know that? [Editor's Note: The Somerset Patriots are 5 a non-affiliated minor league baseball team. They have played in TD Bank Ballpark since 1999. It is located in Bridgewater, New Jersey.] MG: Yes. DC: Well, Cyanamid used to be there. That was a big plant. There were over two thousand people employed at that time, and he used to walk to South Bound Brook, no cars, all the way there and back.
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