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Part 12 – That other Hamptworth manor

This history of this estate and the families connected with it has been compiled from various sources using the Internet. Not all sources are 100% reliable and subsequently this account may also perpetuate some of those errors. The information contained in this document is therefore for general information purposes only. Whilst I have tried to ensure that the information given is correct, I cannot guaranty the accuracy or reliability of the sources used or the information contained in this document.

CONTENTS

Page 2. Section 1 - The history of Hamptworth manor

Page 4. Section 2 - Table of Owners of Hamptworth manor

Page 5. Section 3 - Family connections with Hamptworth manor

Page 5 The Keilway/Kellaway/Kellowe Family Connection

Page 5 Robert Keilway (by 1483-1537 or later) A dispute with the Kellaways

Page 6 The Escourt Family

Page 7 Edmund Estcourt (d.1569) Thomas Estcourt (d. 1599) Page 8 Sir Thomas Estcourt (c.1570-1624) Giles Estcourt (d. 1587) Page 9 Sir Edward Escourt (d. 1608) Sir Giles Escourt Bt (1601-1668)

Page 10 The Webb Family

Page 10 William Webbe (c.1466-1523), alias Kellowe Page 11 William Webbe (c1499-1554) Page 14 John Webb (1530-1571) Page 15 Sir John Webb (1556-1625) General Sir John Webb (c.1597-1680) Page 16 Sir John Webb (d. 1700) Sir John Webb (d. 1745) Page 17 Sir Thomas Webb (1703-1763) Sir John Webb (c. 1740-1797) Page 18 Frederick Webb (1790-1847)

Page 21 Acknowledgements

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Section 1 – The history of Hamptworth manor

Wherever possible, the reference is given for the source of the information quoted, starting with an outline of the manor and the names of families in dispute over its ownership.

From the History of Hamptworth in the parish of Downton.

Following the Norman Conquest, Hamptworth was part of a large estate first held by the Bishop of Winchester. It was bounded to the west by the woodland at Loosehanger and by Langley Wood and to the north by the river Blackwater. Hamptworth common then stretched southwards as far as Nomansland and eastwards to merge into Landford common. The manor of Hamptworth was acquired by Waleran the huntsman and passed through many generations ending with Sir Simon Harcourt. In 1579 the manor was sold to a Henry Giffard and subsequently sold by his sons to William Stockman of Barford in 1603/4. Stockman inclosed 22 acres of Hamptworth common near Langley Wood, which probably included the site of Hamptworth Lodge and thus creating the initial Hamptworth Lodge estate.

However, from the early 16th century there was a second estate in Hamptworth. Between 1533 and 1544 Edmund son of Thomas Estcourt claimed that land there had descended to him from his ancestors but that Robert Kellaway was depriving him of it. Robert had a son John and by 1566 he and Edmund Estcourt had apparently settled the disputes between the two families. John then conveyed the land in Hamptworth to Edmund. Edmund had a son Thomas and a grandson Thomas Estcourt and in 1596 the two Thomases conveyed their manor of Hamptworth to John Webb (d. 1625), the nephew of Edmund’s son Giles. The manor thereafter passed from father to son in the Webb family of Odstock to Sir John (d. 1680), Sir John (d. 1700), Sir John (d. 1745), Sir Thomas (d. 1763), and Sir John (d. 1797) who devised it to Frederick Webb. Between 1822 and 1837 some 245 acres passed to Robert Eden Duncombe Shafto. The remainder was sold in 1858, and later passed into the other manor that became the Hamptworth Lodge estate.

From A History of the County of Wiltshire: Volume 8, , Westbury and Whorwellsdown Hundreds / Fisherton de la Mere.

The ownership of an estate in [JM - Consisting of 1174 acres, almost all owned as a single estate, was part of near , which is between Warminster and ] then claimed as a 'manor', was contested in the early 16th century between members of the Kellaway family and other suitors. Sometime between 1486 and 1493 or between 1504 and 1505 a Thomas Hymerford claimed to have been seized of the 'manor', but to have been deprived of the deeds by Thomas Kellaway, and in the period 1532–44 Edmund, son of Thomas Estcourt, laid a similar charge against Robert Kellaway. In 1545 a John Kellaway was living in Bapton, and it was no doubt he who in 1566 bought out Edmund Estcourt's interests in Fisherton and other places and who died in 1568 seised of a capital messuage and lands in Bapton and Tisbury, held of the as of Fisherton manor. There is some reason to think that Robert and Thomas Kellaway, mentioned above, were respectively his father and grandfather. If this is so, then John's great-grandfather was called William Kellaway. William married a Joan Barret, and in 1413 a John Barret was holding land in Bapton, Tisbury, and other nearby places, which he acquired from his cousin, Thomas Payne, who, in his turn, had acquired them from his father-in-law, John Ellis. This Ellis had another son-in- law, called Walter Estcott - presumably the same as Estcourt. It is possible that it was through the

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gift of John Payne to John Barret that the Kellaway lands in Bapton were first acquired and the claim to those lands by Edmund Estcourt first set up.

At this point it is worth making several observations by way of further explanation:

a) From the history details of the Escourt family, they held land in several counties and wanted to consolidate their property near Tetbury, Glos., with the intention of creating a large family estate on which to build a grand house. They were therefore keen to exchange or sell some of the more scattered holdings to purchase land around Shipton Moyne to create the Escourt Estate; b) The Kellaway family were involved in more than one land dispute; c) It was clearly in both the Kellaway and Escourt family interests to exchange land and settle their disputes; d) John Webb (d.1625) was the son of John Webb (d.1570) who had a sister Elizabeth. Her second marriage was to Giles Escourt. Thus the younger John was a nephew of Giles Escourt. e) The conveyance of the Hamptworth manor to John Webb by Giles Escourt was probably as a result of John’s grandfather William Webbe (d.1523) in his will referring to his alternative name of KELLOWE, suggesting that he was probably an illegitimate son of the Kelloway family. Thus John Webb or more likely Elizabeth Webb the wife of Giles Escourt, may have used the position and influence of Giles Escourt to dispute and regain the Hampworth manor for the Webb family.

The Webb family over time (often by marriage) continued to acquire estates throughout the country.

From the British History website for the history of East Cowton, near Northallerton; From: 'Parishes: East Cowton', A History of the County of York North Riding: Volume 1.

Robert Earl of Aylesbury and Elgin and others in 1667 conveyed the manor [JM – of East Cowton] to John Lord Belasyse, whose only surviving daughter and heir Barbara married Sir John Webb of Great Canford in Dorset and Odstock in Wilts., third baronet. From her it has descended to Lady Chermside of Newstead Abbey, Notts., second daughter of the late Frederick William Webb and the present lady of the manor.

From the British History website for the history of Easingwold in the North Riding of ; From: 'Parishes: Easingwold', A History of the County of York North Riding: Volume 2.

By his third marriage with Anne daughter of John fifth Marquess of Winchester, the first Lord Belasyse left four daughters, among whom the manor of Raskelf was divided. They were: Honora wife of George Lord Abergavenny, Barbara wife of Sir John Webb of Odstock (co. Wilts.), Katherine, who married John Talbot of Longford (co. Salop), and Isabella wife of Thomas Stonor of Stonor (co. Oxon.). Honora, Katherine and Isabella all died without issue and Barbara, Lady Webb, became the sole heiress of her father's estates. She and her husband appear to have settled the manor on their son John Webb. He died without heirs in 1745 in the lifetime of his father, who only survived him a few months, dying in October 1745. The manor then passed to Thomas, the younger and next surviving brother of John, who succeeded as fourth baronet and held the manor until his death in 1763, when it passed to his eldest son Sir John Webb of Odstock, fifth baronet. This Sir John Webb, one of the greatest landowners in , married Mary the eldest daughter of Thomas Salvin of Easingwold, but had no legitimate male issue, and being displeased with the marriage of his only brother Joseph Webb of Welford (co.Northampton) he cut the entail of the family estates. Sir John Webb had a number of illegitimate children, and though he bequeathed the

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more important of his possessions to his only legitimate daughter Barbara, afterwards Countess of Shaftesbury, he devised Raskelf Manor and his other Yorkshire estates to a natural son, James Webb. James Webb dealt with Raskelf Manor by fine in 1818. He died unmarried, and the manor descended to his nephew Colonel William Frederick Webb, D.L., of Newstead Abbey, Sheriff of in 1865, eldest son of Frederick Webb. Colonel William Frederick Webb was lord of Raskelf Manor in 1872, and between this date and 1879 he sold it to the Ecclesiastical Commissioners, the present lords of Raskelf, who in the latter year assigned about 3,000 acres to the see of Chester.

This implies that Frederick Webb was a brother of James Webb and another of the illegitimate sons of Sir John Webb. This would support the line of succession given in the Hamptworth estate above.

Section 2 - Table of Owners of Hamptworth manor

Year Owner

c.1500 The Kelloway family c.1530 Robert Kellaway c.1545 John Kellaway 1566 Edmund Escourt (d.1569) 1569 Thomas Estcourt (d.1599) 1596 John Webb (d.1625) 1625 Sir John (d.1680) 1680 Sir John (d.1700) 1700 Sir John (d.1745) 1745 Sir Thomas (d.1763) 1763 Sir John (d.1797) 1797 Frederick Webb (d.1847) 1847 Mary Webb, wife of Frederick (d.1860) 1858 The Shafto family

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Section 3 - Family connections with Hamptworth manor

The Keilway/Kellaway/Kellowe Family Connection

From The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1509-1558, ed. S.T. Bindoff, 1982

Robert Keilway (by 1483-1537 or later) Of Salisbury, Wilts.

Born c1483, m. Alice, the widow of John Byfleet (d.1502) of Salisbury. Had at least one son also named Robert.

There were Keilways in Devon, Dorset and Gloucestershire and at Rockbourne, near Fordingbridge. Sir William Keilway was sheriff of Wiltshire in 1502 and other members of his family were sheriffs of Hampshire between 1519 and 1586. Robert Keilway, whose parentage is unknown, was presumably a younger son who settled in Salisbury. Like John Abarough, probably another scion of the gentry, Keilway was apparently never elected to the council of Forty-Eight; he was nominated to the inner council of Twenty-Four on 2 Nov 1504 and elected to that body a year later.

Keilway was one of the richer citizens of Salisbury, being assessed for the subsidy of 1524 on goods worth £150. On the conclusion of his mayoralty in 1516 he was paid £22 12s.8½d. for his pension and allowances, and in the following year he held the key of the ‘nether lock’ while the mayor, John Abarough, held that of the ‘over lock’, and on 6 Mar 1523, the day of his return to Parliament, he was also entrusted with the key to a door in the council house previously held by Richard Bartholomew. On 11 Sep 1523, Keilway and his colleague Abarough delivered a writ to the city ‘for the levying of £25 8s. for the burgesses’ expenses’ for 127 days at the rate of 2s. a day each.

The last reference found to Keilway is as a member of the Twenty-Four on 5 Oct 1537.

A dispute with the Kellaways

From A History of the County of Wiltshire: Volume 8, Warminster, Westbury and Whorwellsdown Hundreds / Fisherton de la Mere.

The ownership of an estate in BAPTON [Bapton consisted of some 1174 acres and was almost all owned as a single estate and was part of Fisherton Delamere, which is between Warminster and Salisbury] then claimed as a 'manor', was contested in the early 16th century between members of the Kellaway family and other suitors. Sometime between 1486 and 1493 or between 1504 and 1505 a Thomas Hymerford claimed to have been the owner of the 'manor', but to have been deprived of the deeds by Thomas Kellaway, and in the period 1532–44 Edmund, son of Thomas Estcourt, laid a similar charge against Robert Kellaway.

[Comment – Edmund Escourt (d.1569) disputed the Kellaway holding of Hamptworth manor. See below.]

In 1545 a John Kellaway was living in Bapton, and it was he no doubt who in 1566 bought out Edmund Estcourt's interests in Fisherton and other places and who died in 1568 in possession of a capital house, buildings and lands in Bapton and Tisbury, held of the Marquess of Winchester as of

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Fisherton manor. There is some reason to think that Robert and Thomas Kellaway, mentioned above, were respectively John’s father and grandfather. If this is so, then John's great-grandfather was called William Kellaway. William married a Joan Barret, and in 1413 a John Barret was holding land in Bapton, Tisbury, and other nearby places, which he acquired from his cousin, Thomas Payne, who, in his turn, had acquired them from his father-in-law, John Ellis. This Ellis had another son-in-law, called Walter Estcott - presumably the same as Estcourt. It is possible that it was through the gift of John Payne to John Barret that the Kellaway lands in Bapton were first acquired and the claim to those lands by Edmund Estcourt first set up.

The ESCOURT Family

From A History of the County of Gloucester: Volume 11, Bisley and Longtree Hundreds . Originally published by Victoria County History, London, 1976.

Shipton Moyne: Manors and other estates

Two estates, one held in 1066 by John, and the other held before 1066 by Alwin in socage and later by Rainbert of Flanders, had passed by 1086 to Matthew de Mortain, from whom they were held by Rumbald. They probably formed the estate of Gilbert son of Rumbald, also known as Gilbert of Shipton, which was held from Shipton Moyne manor in 1200. By 1285 the estate was held by another Gilbert of Shipton. By 1303 the estate had been divided between Walter de la Estcourt and John Beauboys.

The part held by Walter de la Estcourt, later called ESTCOURT manor, continued to be held from Shipton Moyne manor and passed down the Escourt family. Walter Estcourt was apparently succeeded by John Estcourt who by 1438 had been succeeded by his son John. The younger John (d. 1474) left as his heir his son John, who was alive in 1495. Thomas Estcourt (See below), son of the last John, held the manor by 1507 and by 1530 had been succeeded by his son Edmund. Edmund Estcourt , who in 1568 made a settlement of the estate, then comprising 430 acres, died in 1569 and was succeeded by his son Thomas. On Thomas's death in 1599 the manor passed to his widow Emma. In 1600 she married Sir Henry Blomer of Hatherop who conveyed the manor c. 1609 to Thomas's son and heir Thomas Estcourt of Lasborough, who had been knighted in 1607. Sir Thomas, who was granted free warren in 1616, died in 1624 while returning from parliament in which he had represented the county.

From other sources:

In the early 16th century, Thomas Estcourt created a park close to Shipton Moyne, Glos. A large manor house was built in the mid-16th century by Edmund Estcourt . An engraving of 1712 shows the house standing in formal gardens and orchards set in a park crossed by avenues. After 1776, the estate was consolidated and a new park, with a lake and ornamented with fir trees, was laid out within the former field system. The house was modernised in the late-1820s and early-1830s.

Estcourt Park, an estate owned by the Escourt family from the 14th century to 1996, dates in its present form from the late-18th century and the first half of the 19th century. The park and pleasure grounds were associated with a new house built in about 1779 and now demolished.

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The ancestry of the Escourt family is given in Appendix 1 – Families associated with Landford and their ancestors

Giles Estcourt (d. 1587) Second son of Edmund Estcourt by Praxid dau of William Button of Wiltshire.

Educated at Lincolns Inn 1558, called to the Bar 1565. Recorder of New Sarum and MP for that city 1563-1587. Purchased the College of St Edmund, Salisbury in May 1576 and buried in St Edmund’s Church 20 Apr 1587.

m. Elizabeth dau William Webb of the parish of St Thomas, Sarum and widow of Robert Rogers, Esq. of Poole, Dorset (which Robert d. 1555). Elizabeth was bur at St Edmund’s 8 Apr 1602.

s. Sir Edward (his heir) d. Honora m. Thomas Mompesson (d. 1587) m. John Harding (High Constable of Salisbury, 1623) d. Barbara m. Andrew Pell d. Mary m. James Thurbarne of New Romney, Kent

From The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1558-1603, ed. P.W. Hasler, 1981 .

Giles Estcourt came of an old Wiltshire family. He resided at the College House of St. Edmund’s, which he bought in 1576. One of the 24, he served Salisbury as a lawyer, and would no doubt have been recorder had Salisbury had such an office at this time. He was excused from serving as mayor in 1568, but represented Salisbury in five Parliaments, serving on a number of committees dealing with weights and measures (23 May 1572), jeofails [acknowledgment of a mistake or oversight ] (15 Feb. 1576), cloth (16 Feb.), innholders (17 Feb.), unlawful weapons (2 Mar.), relief of vicars and curates (13 Mar.), disorders of sheriffs (4 Feb. 1581) and navigation (15 Mar. 1581).

In March 1587 he was granted leave of absence by the House ‘but upon what reasons or grounds’ the clerk ‘very negligently omitted’ to state. Perhaps he was already ill. He made his will 16 April and it was proved 6 July. In it he forgave the corporation all such money as was due to him ‘for serving of them in diverse parliaments’.

Although his estate included the manors of Chilhampton and Roulston, the farms of Burtford and Maddington and lands at Fisherton, Estcourt was heavily in debt, a circumstance he attributed to expense over litigation consequent upon the death of a former bishop of Salisbury, for whom he had acted as executor. Still, two daughters were to receive £500 apiece, provided that they married with their mother’s approval, 100 sheep went to his ‘friend’ John Popham, plate to John Hele, John Glanvile, Thomas Hannam and the bishop of Salisbury. As overseers he appointed his son-in-law Thomas Mompesson, esq., and his cousin and principal creditor Thomas St. Barbe, the last named being asked to deal fairly with the widow.

Giles Estcourt also had connexions with Poole; while recorder of the town (1582) he tried unsuccessfully to have his son returned to Parliament. The family continued to represent West Country boroughs throughout the seventeenth century.

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The Webb Family

Much of the family lineage in this section is taken from the WEBBE of Odstock, Wiltshire website, which used extracts from Descendants of William Webbe (c1466-1523) Researched by Richard J Cornwell.

William Webbe (c.1466-1523) , alias Kellowe of Salisbury, Wilts.

William Webbe was christened in the church of St Lawrence at Shaftesbury, Dorset, though his parentage is unknown. His alias hints of a possible relationship to Robert Keilway I of Dorset. He married Joan Ewen, widow of Stone, Esq. After 1517 he married secondly Edith, widow of Robert Long, of Steeple Ashton and of one Morgan. After 1520 he married thirdly Joan (Willington) who survived him. He was a prosperous cloth merchant in Salisbury, and served as Constable of New Sarum (Salisbury) 1488, Mayor 1495, 1512, 1514, 1522; member of Parliament 1504 and 1510. He made his will 13 July 1523, and it was proved 14 Aug 1523.

m. Joan Ewen (d. c1517), wid s. William Webbe (c1499-1554) married Catharine Aborrow

He had other issue as a result of his successive marriages –

s. Sir John (c1513) Had a dau Elizabeth bap 1 Nov 1530 s. Hugh (c1515), alias Henry Webb of Wokingham, Surrey d. Cecily Webb (c1517) m. Thomas White of Poole, Dorset

Taken from The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1509-1558, ed. S.T. Bindoff, 1982

According to a statement in his will, William Webbe was christened in the church of St. Lawrence at Shaftesbury. His parentage is unknown, but his use of the alias ‘Kellowe’ in his will raises the possibility that he was an illegitimate offspring of one of the Keilway family of Dorset and thus perhaps related in blood to Robert Keilway I. If Webbe was an illegitimate child, it did not impede his progress, for by the end of the 15th century he had become one of the richest merchants of Salisbury. He may have started his career in Southampton, an important outlet for the Wiltshire cloth trade, where he built the so-called Church House in Crane Street; in 1509 a pardon was issued to John Stone of Salisbury and William James of Southampton and Salisbury, factors and attorneys of Thomas Coke I, William Hawkins and William Webbe. Poole was probably another port through which Webbe exported his goods, since both his son and grandson did so, while his daughter married a merchant of that town.

Webbe performed many special duties for the corporation of Salisbury and during his second mayoralty he presided over the compilation of rules for public order to be approved by the King’s justices. His first three terms as mayor ended by his being paid £17, £19 12s.5d. and £18 4s.8d. respectively, of which £10 was for his pension and the remainder for other charges. He appears to have been reluctant to undertake a fourth term, perhaps because of failing health, for his election on 2 Nov 1522 was followed three days later by a resolution that ‘for various considerations’ he need not hold the office again.

Webbe and Coke claimed payment at the statutory rate of 2 shillings a day for their service in the Parliament of 1504 but when both men were re-elected on 2 Jan 1510 they were promised only 1

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shilling a day. It was not customary for the mayor of Salisbury to be returned to Parliament, and this may explain why Webbe was not chosen when these reduced wages were again offered in 1512.

Webbe made his will on 13 Jul 1523, describing himself as ‘William Kellowe or William Webbe of the city of New Sarum, mercer and merchant’ and asking to be buried in the church of St. Thomas, where his three wives already lay. He made bequests to his daughter Cecily, the wife of Thomas White of Poole, and her three children, as well as to the children of his second wife by her two earlier marriages. The chief beneficiary and sole executor was his son William who received a dwelling house, shop, warehouses and five tenements ‘by the water lane in Castle Street’ at Salisbury. Thomas White and another ‘son-in-law’, John Stone, were named overseers, with £10 and £5 apiece. Webbe died some three months before the close of his mayoralty, for the will was proved on 14 August and his death was noted when the assembly met to elect a successor five days later.

William Webbe (c1499-1554) Merchant of Salisbury, Wilts.

William was born by 1499, the only son of William Webbe (alias Kellowe) of Salisbury by his first wife Joan. He succeeded his father in July/August 1523. William was Mayor of New Sarum in 1533 and 1534. He acquired the manor of Odstock in 1540, and considerable property in Hampshire and Cornwall, and served in Parliament in 1529 and 1536 under Henry VIII and Edward VI. He made his will 22 Jan 1554, and it was proved 22 Feb 1554.

m. 1530, Catharine Aborrow (b. 1511) dau of Sir John Abarrow, a fellow merchant of Salisbury

s. John (c1530-1570) m. dau of William Towerson m. Anne Wylford s. William (c1532-15 Apr 1585) m. Catharine, dau of George Tourney of Motcombe, Dorset. d. Alice (1534) m. Thomas Bingley, Mayor of Poole, Dorset s. William d. Joan d. Amy d. Ann d. Cicele d. Elizabeth (1536) m. Robert Rogers [JM – Then Giles Escourt ] d. Jane (1538) m. Rev. Matthew de Havelande, Rector of Poole, Dorset d. Anne (1540) d. Catherine (1542) m. Anthony Abarrow

The will of Robert Rogers of Poole, Dorset, made in 1555 mentions his brother-in-law William Webb of Salisbury. ELIZABETH [Webb] Rogers his relict married GILES Estcourt.

The 1657 will of Thomas Byngley of Poole names wife Alice, son William, daughters Joan, Amy, Ann and Cicele. Son-in-law John Rogers and his wife Katherine. Their son John. Brother-in-law

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John Webbe. Brother-in-law Giles Estcourte. Robert Rogers, deceased. House bought of Matthew Haviland. Brothers John Webb and William Webb to be executors. Christopher Haviland and John Rogers to be overseers.

So Thomas Byngley’s daughter Katherine married John Rogers and had a son John. Thomas Byngley had brothers-in-law John Webb and Giles Escourt. Brothers John and William Webb were his executors.

Taken from The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1509-1558, ed. S.T. Bindoff, 1982

A merchant like his father, William Webbe early acquired experience in overseas trade, being appointed by the general court of the Merchant Adventurers in February 1523 one of the 14 assistants for the following Synxon or Whitsun mart in the Netherlands. In 1540 he was employing a factor at San Lucar in southern Spain. He was probably one of the eight merchants whom the Earl of Hertford allowed in April 1544, during the war with France, to export 1,000 tons of cloth to Jersey, where unarmed French ships would collect it in exchange for canvas. He also dealt in tin in association with Peter Martin and John Melhuish.

In 1523 Webbe was assessed for subsidy in the Market ward of Salisbury on goods worth £100, his father’s goods being valued at 15 times that figure; two years later, after his father’s death, his goods were valued at £400, in 1547 at £500, in 1550 and 1551 at £300 and in 1552 at £200, sums which although modest by his father’s standard were far higher than those recorded for any of his contemporaries, even Thomas Chaffyn never topping £180. Webbe’s pre-eminence is also reflected in the £400 which he lent to the King in 1542 (the next largest sum of £40 being lent by Chaffyn) and in his high contribution to a benevolence in 1545. Unlike his father, he had clearly sunk much of his wealth in land. Although he continued to live chiefly in Salisbury, where he left his dwelling house to his elder son John, he acquired the nearby manor of Odstock in 1540. He was also a freeholder of Wilton and in 1524 he bought a 50-year lease from the bishop of Salisbury of manorial rights at West Lavington, near Devizes. In Hampshire he owned at the time of his death the manor of Stockbridge and property at Andover, as well as the estates which he had bought from Sir John Rogers in 1544, no doubt when his daughter Elizabeth married into the Rogers family . In Cornwall he held property at Fawton on the river Fowey and elsewhere, over which he brought a suit in Chancery before Lord Audley alleging detention of deeds and which were presumably the lands in that county mentioned but not specified in his will.

His wealth makes it likely, that it was Webbe of Salisbury who joined William Breton of London in paying £1,332 for the manors of Bushton, Wiltshire, previously held by Admiral Seymour and of Wolferlow, Herefordshire, together with rectories in Suffolk and other former monastic properties: this grant, made on 24 Feb 1553, was followed by the sale of Wolferlow on the next day and of Bushton on 20 March.

It is remarkable that Webbe, with his widespread property and business activities, played such a full part in affairs at Salisbury. He was not particularly prominent in the city’s struggle with the reforming bishop Nicholas Shaxton but on 21 Jan 1538 he was one of four citizens who were commissioned to present their fellows’ case before the Privy Council. His stake in the freedom of Salisbury was soon demonstrated in a chancery suit before Audley, when Webbe complained that he could not hope for justice in the bishop’s court against three chaplains of the cathedral who had

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forcibly entered his property after asserting that he was merely the tenant and that he owed arrears of rent amounting to £8.

In returning William Webbe and Thomas Chaffyn to the Parliament of 1529 Salisbury chose two men who already ranked as its wealthiest citizens. As prorogation followed prorogation, and session succeeded session, the city doubtless began to wonder, as did other municipalities, how it was to pay the mounting bill for parliamentary wages. By June 1535, when Webbe presented his writ de expensis, the seven sessions ending in the previous December had lasted 407 days and his claim for £43 8s. thus represented payment for maximum attendance as well as an allowance for travel and perhaps for incidental expenses at Westminster. The corporation finding it hard to raise such a sum, Webbe ‘of his goodness’ remitted the £3 8s. and agreed to take the £40 by instalments of 20 marks a year. The final session of the Parliament lasted for 69 days and its successor of 1536, to which Webbe was also returned (though without Chaffyn, despite the King’s request for the previous Members), another 40; as he was not elected in 1539 the ‘burgess money’ mentioned on 3 Dec. of that year, when he remitted £7 10s. and agreed to accept the rest in two payments of £13 16s.8d., must include either arrears or payment for additional services.

Of Webbe’s part in the House which, to judge from his wages bill, he attended so assiduously there are two unclear and tantalizing glimpses. His name occurs, next to Thomas Chaffyn’s, in a list of Members probably dating from the session of 1533. If, as has been suggested, this is a list compiled by Cromwell of actual or potential opponents of the bill in restraint of appeals, Webbe and his fellow-Member are probably to be reckoned among the woolmen and clothiers who feared repercussions on the cloth trade. The other possible reference to Webbe arises from the appearance of his name on a further list, dating from the winter of 1534. Although the Member concerned may have been his namesake of Huntingdon, the fact that this later list includes several of the names occurring on the earlier one makes it likely that Webbe of Salisbury is again intended: if so, he is to be thought of as one of the seemingly recalcitrant Members who, with a group of more reliable ones, appear to have been especially connected with the treasons bill then passing through the House, perhaps as belonging to a committee on it.

Webbe was not elected to any of the three remaining Parliaments of Henry VIII’s reign, but on 26 Sep 1547 he and Robert Griffith were chosen by Salisbury to attend the first Parliament called in the name of Edward VI. However, it is open to serious doubt whether they sat in this Parliament. There is no reference to any claim for expenses, and the debt of £20 due to him for his ‘burgess-ship’ which Webbe was to remit in his will, could have represented a sum outstanding from his earlier claims. There are, moreover, alternative names to consider. On the copy of the Crown Office list of Members which was annotated in preparation for the final session in 1552 the names of the Members for Salisbury are given as Sir John Thynne and Henry Clifford. As both Webbe and Griffith outlived the Parliament they can scarcely have been replaced at by-elections; rather, if Thynne and Clifford are to be accepted as the Members, they must be thought of as having supplanted the two local men from the outset. What gives colour to this supposition is the happenings at Salisbury at both the previous election and the following one. In 1545 Edmund Gawen and Robert Keilway II were replaced by two ‘outsiders’, Thomas Gawdy I and John Story and in the spring of 1553 the Earl of Pembroke nominated George Penruddock and John Beckingham. It would be wrong, however, to conclude that Webbe was dragooned (whatever may have been the case with Griffith) into withdrawal in 1547, for throughout these years he appears to have acted as a kind of election agent at Salisbury. It was he who had ‘managed’ the return of Charles Bulkeley, another outsider, to the Parliament of 1542, and in March 1553, when he was mayor, he undertook to pay the parliamentary

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wages of Pembroke’s two nominees if the earl himself should fail to pay them. He is therefore more likely to have abetted than to have opposed his own, and Griffith’s, supersession in 1547.

Whether Webbe’s collaboration with Pembroke reflects more than a personal tie between them it is hard to tell since little is known of Webbe’s religious outlook or political affiliation. His descendants, the Webbe baronets of Odstock, were to be recusants and his will contains a number of traditional bequests. Modest alms were to be distributed to the poor at his funeral, his ‘month’s mind’ and his ‘year’s mind’, annuities of 20s. went to two chantries in St. Thomas’s church and a further 20s. ‘to the maintenance of clerks and singing men’ there. Webbe also bequeathed to the church a number of vestments which he had bought as a commissioner under Edward VI, perhaps for safe keeping in the hope that Catholicism would be restored.

The will, which he made on 22 Jan 1554, provides further evidence of Webbe’s large fortune. Charitable gifts included £100 to the mayor of Salisbury to ‘maintain clothiers and other young occupiers’, £20 to the Trinity hospital, £40 for the repair of highways and £5 for unpaid tithes to St. Thomas’s church, where he asked to be buried. His ample provision for his family included dowries of 500 marks each for his three unmarried daughters. Among further bequests he left black gowns to Robert Eyre and his wife, and 40s. a year to John Hooper ‘for his pains taking in keeping of courts upon my lands according as he hath heretofore accustomed’. The executors were Webbe’s two sons and his sons-in-law Thomas Bingley and Robert Rogers. The overseers were (Sir) Thomas White II of South Warnborough, John White of London, Matthew Haviland, another son-in-law, and Edward Courteys, Webbe’s ‘servant’, who was betrothed to his daughter Annys; each of these was to receive £100 and a mourning gown. The curate of St. Thomas’s, Thomas Chaffyn, Robert Eyre, John Hooper and Thomas St. Barbe acted as witnesses to the will, which must therefore have been made at Salisbury and which was proved on 22 Feb 1554.

John Webb (1530-1571), of Odstock Manor.

Born the first son of William Webbe of Salisbury and Katherine Abarough (alias Catherine Abarrow). John was baptised 17 Oct 1530 at St Thomas, Salisbury. He was Mayor of New Sarum (Salisbury) 1561, Member of Parliament 1559. Lived at Odstock.

m. A dau of William Towerson s. John Died in infancy

m. 1555, Anne (1536-c1570) dau Nicholas Wylford of Salisbury & London s. John Webbe (c1556-1626) m. Edith Falconer m. Catherine Tresham s. William (c1557-1632) of Tytpit, Martin, Wilts., and New Street, Salisbury m. Joan White d. Anne (1558- ?) s. John (c1560-27 Jan 1631/2) m. Mary Brune of St Giles-in-the-Field, London d. Elizabeth (1562) m.1 Nov 1580, Thomas Seymour d. Alice (d.10 Jun 1632) m. Robert Cage of London d. Jane

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d. Catherine

From The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1558-1603, ed. P.W. Hasler, 1981

On the accession of , Webbe added to his inherited property at Salisbury. He remitted the wages due to him for representing the city in the Parliament of 1559. He was Mayor in 1560-1 and auditor for the 24 in 1564. He died in London 1 Feb 1571, and was buried in the church of St. Thomas of Canterbury at Salisbury, where he is commemorated by a monumental brass. His will, drawn up a week before his death, left bequests to Christ’s hospital, London, as well as to the Salisbury poor and the prisoners in the gaol there. At his burial 20 poor men of Salisbury were to be given gowns and a dinner. The will provided for the heir John, aged 14, to go to a university and an inn of court. His brother William Webbe (1532-1585) was an overseer.

Sir John Webb (1556-1625) , knighted 14 Mar 1604.

First son of John Webb (1530-1571), he was born in Odstock.

m. c.1583, Edith Faulconer, dau and co-heir of William Faulconer of Laverstock by Jane his wife, daughter of Henry Uvedalte of Morecritchill, Dorset. No issue.

m. c.1585, Catherine Tresham (1556-1623) 4th daughter of Sir Thomas Tresham of Rushton, Northampton, by Muriel his wife, daughter of Sir Eobert Thrugmorton. Catherine was killed when the old Blackfriars Church in London collapsed during a sermon. s. Thomas (c1588) of Bagrage d.unm s. William (c1590) Major General under Charles I d. Frances (c1592) m. Phillip Kemp s. Edward (c1594-1616) d. unm d. Mary (c1596-1656) s. John Webbe (c1597-1680) m. Mary Carryl (c1609-1661)

The principal estate in the [of Odstock], , comprises the manor known in the 16th century as 'Langford' which had been held from 1327 to 1574 by the Cervington family. The last member of the family to hold the manor, John Cervington, lost his fortune through gambling and mortgaged his estate to Sir John Webb, of Odstock manor, who foreclosed on the debt.

The manor of Longford was acquired by Thomas Gorges in 1578 (knighted 1586) who was responsible for the building of the Castle to designs by the architect John Thorpe. Thomas Gorges died in 1610 and was succeeded by his eldest son, subsequently created Lord Gorges of Dundalk, who sold the castle estate in 1641 to Hugh Hare, first Lord Coleraine.

In 1596, Thomas Escourt (d. 1599) and his son Sir Thomas Escourt (d. 1624), conveyed the manor of Hamptwoth to this John Webb (d.1625) of Odstock, nephew of Giles Escourt through marriage to his aunt Elizabeth Webb . Hamptworth manor then passed down the generations of the Webb family.

General Sir John Webb (c.1597-1680) 1st Bt.

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The son and heir of Sir John Webb of Odstock, Wilts., and Great Canford, Dorset, by his second wife Catharine Tresham. Created 1st Bt. on 2 Apr 1644 for services to Charles I.

m. Mary Caryll (d. 1661), 2 nd daughter of Sir John Carryl of Harting, , and his wife the Hon Mary Dormer. They lived in Odstock and had issue:

s. John Webbe (c1630-1700) 2 nd Bt, m. Mary Blomer (d.1709) d. Mary (c1666) m. Charles Gerrard, Lord Gerrard of Bromley s. John (c1670-1745) 3 rd Bt, m. Barbara Belasyse (c1670-28 Mar1740). m. Helena Moore (c1680-19 Jun 1771) s. Thomas (c1631) d. unm s. William (c1633-Sep 1668) d. unm d. Mary (c1635) dvp s. Peter (c1637) d. unm d. Catherine (c1639) became a nun d. Frances (c1641) became a nun d. Elizabeth (c1643) became a nun d. Anne (c1645) became a nun d. Marina (c1647) m. William Ireland of Crofton, Yorkshire

In 1619 John Webb was admitted to Gray's Inn and became a General in the army. He was made a Baronet of Oldstocke [Odstock] and Great Canford on 2 Apr 1644 "as a reward of his family having both shed their blood in the King's cause and contributed, as far as they were able, with their purses, in his defence." They were Roman Catholic. In 1646, his manor, rents, and demesne lands were sequestered, value £300 per annum. Their children's christenings were not recorded in the Anglican Parish Register in Odstock or Salisbury. He died in 1680 and was buried at Odstock. John's will refers only to his heir John, youngest daughter Marina, and granddaughter Mary the daughter of John. He was suceeded by his son Sir John Webb, 2 nd Bt.

Sir John Webb (d. 1700) of Odstock, 2 nd Bt.

The eldest son and heir of Sir John Webb (d. 1680) married his second cousin once removed Mary Draycot (widow of Richard Draycot; d. 29 May 1709; bur. at Hatherop, co. Gloucester), who was the only daughter and sole heiress of John Blomer of Hatherop Castle, Glos., by his wife Hon Frances Browne, 6 th daughter of Anthony [Browne], 2 nd Viscount Montagu by his wife Lady Jane Sackville, 2nd dau. of Thomas [Sackville], 1st Earl of Dorset.

Sir John died 29 Oct 1700 and was buried at Odstock. He was succeeded by his only son Sir John, 3 rd Bt.

Sir John Webb (d. 1745) , 3 rd Bt

The only son and heir of Sir John Webb, 2 nd Bt.

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m. Hon Barbara Belasyse (c.1700 - 28 Mar 1740), 2 nd daughter and co-heiress of John [Belasyse], 1 st Baron Belasyse of Worlaby, by his third wife Lady Anne Paulet, only child by his second wife of John [Paulet], 5th Marquess of Winchester.

s. John dsp s. Thomas 4th Bt d. Mary d. Barbara Mabella d. possibly others. m. Helen Moore, daughter of Sir Richard Moore, 3 rd Bt., of Fawley, co. Hertford, by his wife Anastasia Aylward, daughter and co-heiress of John Aylward of London. There were no children of this marriage.

Sir John died at Aix-la-Chapelle in Oct 1745 and was succeeded by his only surviving son Thomas.

From the British History website for the history of East Cowton, near Northallerton; From : 'Parishes: East Cowton', A History of the County of York North Riding: Volume 1.

Robert Earl of Aylesbury and Elgin and others in 1667 conveyed the manor [of East Cowton] to John Lord Belasyse, whose only surviving daughter and heiress Barbara married Sir John Webb of Great Canford in Dorset and Odstock in Wilts., 3rd Bt. From her it has descended to Lady Chermside of Newstead Abbey, Notts., second daughter of the late Frederick William Webb and the present lady of the manor.

Sir Thomas Webb (1703-1763) , 4 th Bt. Second son of Sir John Webb, 3rd Bt

m. c1738, Anne Gibson (d. 7 Oct 1777), dau and co-heiress of William Gibson, of Welford, Northampton. An alternative source says that he married Anne the daughter and co-heiress of Thomas Gybson of Welford, Hants. Whichever, they had issue:

s. Sir John Webb , 5 th Bt. s. Joseph of Welford, Northampton m. Mary White (d. 17 Mar 1770), dau. of John White, of Canford, Dorset s. Sir Thomas Webb , 6 th Bt. s. Joseph (d. unm.) d. Anne Webb (b. c. 1763; dsp. 3 Aug 1861) m. 30 Jun 1789, Anthony James [Radclyffe], 5th Earl of Newburgh.

Sir Thomas died 29 Jun 1763 and was succeeded by his son John.

Sir John Webb (c. 1740-1797) , 5 th Bt Eldest son of Sir Thomas Webb (d. 1763), 4 th Bt Sir John Webb was one of the greatest landowners in England.

m. c1760, Mary Salvin (d. 1782; buried in Louvaine), 1 st daughter of Thomas Salvin, of Easingwold, co. York, by his wife Mary Talbot, daughter of Edward Talbot. d. Barbara (b. c. 1762; d. 5 Oct 1819) m. 17 Jul 1786, Anthony Ashley [Cooper], 5th Earl of Shaftesbury.

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Numerous issue all of whom died young

m. Helen, 3 rd daughter of Sir Richard Moore, 3 rd Bt of Fawley, Bucks. They had no issue.

Having no legitimate male issue, and being displeased with the marriage of his only brother Joseph Webb of Welford (co. Northampton) he cut the entail of the family estates. Sir John Webb had a number of illegitimate children, and although he bequeathed the more important of his possessions to his only legitimate daughter Barbara, afterwards Countess of Shaftesbury, he devised Raskelf Manor and his other Yorkshire estates to a natural son, James Webb. James died unmarried, and the manor descended to his nephew Colonel William Frederick Webb, D.L., of Newstead Abbey, Sheriff of Nottinghamshire in 1865, eldest son of Frederick Webb . This would imply that Frederick Webb was another of Sir John’s illegitimate sons.

Sir John died Apr 1797 and was buried at St Pancras. The Baronetcy passed to his nephew Thomas, son of his brother Joseph Webb.

Sir Thomas Webb (d. 26 Mar 1823), 6 th Bt., first married the Hon Frances Charlotte Dillon, only daughter of the 12 th Viscount Dillon by who they had one child, namely Sir Henry Webb, 7 th Bt.

Sir Henry Webb (b. at Lyons on 27 Apr 1806, d. at Esslingen in Wurtemburgh, 19 Aug 1874), 7 th Bt. On the death of the 7 th Baronet, the Baronetcy of Webb of Odstock became extinct.

Frederick Webb (1790-1846)

From a memorial plaque in Salisbury Cathedral – Sacred to the memory of Frederick Webb esq of Westwick county of Durham and Hamptworth in this county. Youngest son of the late Sir John Webb Baronet; who departed this life at Brighton on the 4th of February 1846 aged 56 years.

Also of his youngest son Augustus Frederick Cavendish Webb esq., Captain 17th Lancers who died at Scutari on the 6th of Nov 1854 aged 22 years from wounds received in the brilliant Light Cavalry charge at Balaklava on the 25th of October 1854.

From The European Magazine & London Review dated 1821 , marriage announcements. Frederick Webb Esq. of Langham Place, Westwick, co. Durham, to Mary, eldest daughter of Mrs Shiels of South Audley Street. [ City of Westminster ]

From various genealogy sites – Frederick Webb (d. 1847) married Mary Shiel (1795-1860), parents of William Frederick Webb (Mar 1829-Feb 1899). Frederick resided at Westwick, Durham prior to death.

From A genealogical and heraldic history of the landed gentry of Great Britain - The late Frederick Webb Esq. of Westwick, co. Durham, married Mary, daughter of A. Sheil Esq., and by her (d. 1860) had issue. William Frederick, now of Cowton and Newstead, etc.

From WIKIPEDIA – William Frederick Webb (Mar 1829-1899), High Sheriff of Nottingham and the British Army. William was one of four children born to Frederick Webb and Mary Shiel. Upon the death of his

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father in 1847, Webb inherited estates in Yorkshire, and County Durham, making him very wealthy.

From a Memorial at Newstead Abbey, Nottinghamshire – "In memory of Augustus Frederick Cavendish Webb, Captain 17th Lancers who died at Scutari 6 November 1854 of wounds received at the charge of Balaclava 25 October 1854 aged 22 years. Erected by his brother William Frederick Webb."

From – Summary of Obituary in the Gentleman’s Magazine (Jan 1855) “Captain Augustus Frederick Cavendish Webb, Captain 17th Lancers, died on 6th November 1854 at Scutari, two days after the amputation of his leg for a wound received during the battle of Balaclava, aged 22. Youngest son of the late Frederick Webb esq. of Westwick, Durham and Hamptworth , Hants.”

From other research by Alison Cameron, Landford.

Frederick Webb was the illegitimate son of Sir John Webb of Odstock, Bt., and his mistress Elizabeth McNight who appear to have lived together after the death of his wife. In 1821 Frederick married Mary (Sheil) who was born in Dublin in 1794. Apart from a period when he was equerry to the Duke of Sussex, he spent much of his life in France where he owned a country house.

Frederick and Mary had five children; Augusta Maria (b.1822) and Frederick (b.1823) born in Marylebone, London, and Cecilia Charlotte (b.1827), William Frederick(b.1829) and Augustus Frederick Cavendish(b.1831) all born in Brighton when Frederick was equerry to Augustus Frederick Cavendish, the Duke of Sussex.

Frederick died in 1847 leaving Mary a ‘Lady of Fortune’ according to the 1851 census. At that time she was living in Ivy House, Hampton, on the edge of the Hampton Court estate (now better known as the boarding house where Alan Turing, the enigma code breaker, lived while he was working on the first programmable computer in 1945.)

From the 1839 Tithe maps for Landford and Earldoms (Whiteparish then)

Frederick Webb still held almost 26 acres of land in the North Common area and the adjacent 26 acres of land north of the river Blackwater and west of Landford Lodge. As stated in the history section above, “Between 1822 and 1837 some 245 acres passed to Robert Eden Duncombe Shafto. The remainder was sold in 1858, and later passed into the other manor that became the Hamptworth Lodge estate.” This would suggest that the Webb’s Hamptworth lands were being sold off both before and after the death of Frederick in 1847, presumably to meet expenses elsewhere.

The history of Northlands includes the information that Mary Webb purchased that property about 1850 as a home for her youngest son Augustus Frederick Cavendish Webb. Whether she ever lived there temporarily is not known. As quoted above “Captain Augustus Frederick Cavendish Webb, Captain 17th Lancers, died on 6th November 1854 at Scutari, two days after the amputation of his leg for a wound received during the battle of Balaclava, aged 22.” This may well have led to the decision to sell the rest of the Webb landholdings in Hamptworth. There is no evidence that any of the Webb family ever lived there. However, after Mary’s death on 28 Aug 1860, the entire East window in the Church of St Andrew, Landford, was given and dedicated to her memory which

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would indicate that she worshipped there at least for a short time. It was probably subscribed by her son William Frederick Webb who had become a wealthy land owner in his own right and placed family memorials elsewhere.

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ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS

WIKIPEDIA Wiltshire & Swindon History Centre WEBBE of Odstock, Wiltshire website Descendants of William Webbe (c1466-1523) Researched by Richard J Cornwell British History Online - 'Parishes: East Cowton', A History of the County of York North Riding: Volume 1. British History Online - 'Parishes: Easingwold', A History of the County of York North Riding: Volume 2. A History of the County of Wiltshire: Volume 8, Warminster, Westbury and Whorwellsdown Hundreds / Fisherton de la Mere. The Visitation of Wiltshire 1565 by William Harvey together with Additional Wiltshire Pedigrees The visitation of the county of Dorset, taken in the year 1623 by Henry St. George, 1581-1644 A History of the County of Gloucester: Volume 11, Bisley and Longtree Hundreds. The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1558-1603, ed. P.W. Hasler, 1981 The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1509-1558, ed. S.T. Bindoff, 1982 Pedigrees from the visitation of Hampshire collected by Richard Mundy Pedigrees of the County Families of Yorkshire by Joseph Foster The visitation of the county of Devon in the year 1620 Caribbeana via University of Florida Digital Collections Reliques of the Rives (Ryves) by James Rives Childs The Gorges Family from http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/GORGES.htm Visitation of England and Wales edited by F A Crisp The Smith Family by Compton Reade, M.A. The Wood Family Tree on https://woodlloydfamilyhistory.com/toc16.html http://www.epsomandewellhistoryexplorer.org.uk/EpsomManorDescent.html Charles Mosley, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition Research by Alison Cameron of Landford Wiltshire Notes and Queries, published in 1908 Cracroft's Peerage

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