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Oral History Interview with Hon. Victor V. Veysey California state Archives state Government Oral History Program Oral History Interview with HON. VICTOR V. VEYSEY California state Assemblyman, 1963 - 1970 united states Congressman, 1971- 1975 July 8, July 14 and September 14, 1988 Pasadena, California By Enid Hart Douglass Oral History Program Claremont Graduate School RESTRICTIONS ON THIS INTERVIEW None LITERARY RIGHTS AND QUOTATION This manuscript is hereby made available for research purposes only. No part of the manuscript may be quoted for publication without the written permission of the California state Archivist or the Director, Oral History Program, Claremont Graduate School. Requests for permission to quote for pUblication should be addressed to: California state Archives 1020 0 Street, Room 130 Sacramento, CA 95814 or Director, Oral History Program Harper Hall 155 Claremont Graduate School 150 E. Tenth Street Claremont, CA 91711-6160 The request should include identification of the specific passages and identification of the user. It is recommended that this oral history be cited as follows: victor V. Veysey, Oral History Interview, Conducted 1988, by Enid H. Douglass, Oral History Program, Claremont Graduate School, for the California State Archives State Government Oral History Program. Information (916) 445-4293 California State Archives March Fong Eu Document Restoration (916) 445-4293 10200 Street, Room 130 Exhibit Hall (916) 445-0748 Secretary of State Legislative Bill Service (916) 445-2832 Sacramento, CA 95814 (prior years) PREFACE On September 25, 1985, Governor George Deukmejian signed into law A.B. 2104 (Chapter 965 of the Statutes of 1985). This legislation established, under the administration of the California State Archives, a State Government Oral History Program "to provide through the use of oral history a continuing documentation of state policy development as reflected in California's legislative and executive history." The following interview is one of a series of oral histories undertaken for inclusion in the state program. These interviews offer insights into the actual workings of both the legislative and executive processes and policy mechanisms. They also offer an increased understanding of the men and women who create legislation and implement state policy. Further, they provide an overview of issue development in California state government and of how both the legislative and executive branches of government deal with issues and problems facing the state. Interviewees are chosen primarily on the basis of their contributions to and influence on the policy process of the state of California. They include members of the legislative and executive branches of the state government as well as legislative staff, advocates, members of the media, and other people who played significant roles in specific issue areas of major and continuing importance to California. By authorizing the California State Archives to work cooperatively with oral history units at California colleges and universities to conduct interviews, this program is structured to take advantage of the resources and expertise in oral history available through California's several institutionally based programs. Participating as cooperating institutions in the state Government Oral History Program are: Oral History Program History Department California state University, Fullerton Oral History Program Center for California Studies California state University, Sacramento Oral History Program Claremont Graduate School Regional Oral History Office The Bancroft Library University of California, Berkeley Oral History Program University of California, Los Angeles The establishment of the California state Archives State Government Oral History Program marks one of the most significant commitments made by any state toward the preservation and documentation of its governmental history. It supplements the often fragmentary historical written record by adding an organized primary source, enriching the historical information available on given topics and allowing for more thorough historical analysis. As such, the program, through the preservation and pUblication of interviews such as the one which follows, will be of lasting value to current and future generations of scholars, citizens, and leaders. John F. Burns State Archivist July 27, 1988 This interview is printed on acid-free paper. VICTOR V. VEYSEY TABLE OF CONTENTS INTERVIEW HISTORY ... i BIOGRAPHICAL SUMMARY . .... ..... .. iii SESSION 1, July 7, 1988 [Tape 1, Side A] . 1 Family background--Father's business--Mother's background--Eagle Rock High School--California Institute of Techology undergraduate experience--Harvard Business School--Teaching at Caltech beginning 1938--Doctoral work at Stanford--Impact of World War II and return to Caltech in industrial management--Physics Three Project (rockets). [Tape 1, Side B] ............ 30 HVAR rocket production--Atomic bomb detonator--Working for General Tire and Rubber Co.--1949 move to Brawley ranch--Marriage-­ Running a cro~ farm--Election to Brawley School board 1n 1953--School district reorganization--Establishing a community college--More about school district reorganization--Election to Imperial Valley College board--Farm organizations--Decision to run for Seventy-sixth Assembly District-­ Campaign against Leverette House. [Tape 2, Side A] . 59 California Plan--Campaign participation of Jesse Unruh. SESSION 2, July 14, 1988 [Tape 2, Side A continued] 64 Family move to Sacramento--Seatmate Gordon Winton--capitol Office and staff--District arrangements--Use of airplane--Freshman class of 1963--Impressions of George Deukemejian-­ Criminal Procedure Committee--Class reunion-­ Conduct of Assemblyman on floor. [Tape 2, Side B] ...•..•..•..... 87 Partisanship not a major factor--Partisan issues--Speaker Jesse Unruh--Full-time legislature--Lobbyists--Meals provided by lobbyists--Derby Club--Most active and powerful lobbyists--Lobbyists as information source--Education Committee staff--Chairman, Engrossing and Enrollment Committee--Refuses to engross Unruh constitutional amendment-­ Finance and Insurance Committee--Lobbying and Finance and Insurance--Republican caucus. [Tape 3, Side A] 116 1963 lockup of the assembly by Jesse Unruh-­ James Mill's account of lockup--Young Turks-­ Republican party politics--Gaylord Parkinson-­ Death Penalty--Governor Edmund G. Brown, Sr.-­ Edmund G. Brown, Jr. [Tape 3, Side B] . 146 Governor Edmund G. "Pat" Brown's staff-­ Assemblyman Byron Rumford--Vote on Rumford Fair Housing Act--And influence of Gordon Winton--Mismanagement of State Teachers' Retirement System issue--Bill on hunting pheasants--Special agricultural vehicle legislation. SESSION 3, September 14, 1988 [Tape 4, Side A] 163 Proposition 9 (1964)--Comparison of Veysey's and Senator Walter stiern's districts--1964 Republican Convention in San Francisco-­ Republican move to the right--1964 assembly election against Cruz Reynoso--Reapportionment enlarges ve¥sey's district--uses airplane to cover distrlct--1966 assembly election-­ Campaign costs--Participation of Reagan-­ Compares Reagan and Pat Brown--Reagan's reliance on staff--Select committee on campus disturbances--witnesses Hayakawa incident at San Francisco State. [Tape 4, Side B] . 194 More on select committee on campus disturbances--School finance--Reagan and legislature--View of making full-time legislature--Failure to reduce bills--Loss of interim studies--Increased role of initiative for making legislative decisions--His period of assembly service as golden time--1967 appointment to Ways and Means Committee-­ Lobbying of Ways and Means Committee-­ Legislative Analyst Alan Post--willie Brown-­ March Fong--John Vasconcellos. [Tape 5, Side A] •. ... ......... 225 AssemblYman Leo Ryan work on Education Committee--1967 Ve¥sey Act--School finance bill--School distr1ct unification and opposition to in Veysey's district--Colorado River and boundaries of California and Arizona--Quichan Indians--Tries to pass legislation dealing with relations between unions and farmers--David A. Roberti--Fails to gain senate approval as Deukmejian's Secretary of Department of Industrial Relations in 1983--situation with labor. [Tape 5, Side B] ............... 256 Senate reapportionment and 1966 race between Burgener and Ashcraft--Spouses who were active po11tically--Property tax reform--Advantage of local government experience as testing ground--Salton Sea Advisory Committee and salinit¥ problem--Alternative teacher credent1aling--1968 assembly election--Ben Yellen--Speaker Robert Monagan--Veysey's attitude toward party visibility--Opportunity to run for congress when Tunney runs for u.S. Senate--congressional race victory over David Tunno. [Tape 6, Side A] ..... 286 More about first congressional campaign-­ Effect of 1974 masters' reapportionment plan-­ Appeal to Governor Reagan to accept Burton's congressional plan fails--Role of Edwin Meese--Loses district and runs in new Thirty­ fifth Congressional District--Moves to Claremont and runs against Jim Lloyd--Effect of Watergate--Loses seat--President Ford appoints assistant secretary of army--Army Corps of Engineers civil works program-­ Returns to Caltech Center for Industrial Relations. APPENDIX 308 INDEX OF NAMES . 310 INTERVIEW HISTORY Interviewer/Editor Enid Hart Douglass Director, Oral History Program and Lecturer in History Claremont Graduate School B.A., Pomona College [Government] M.A., Claremont Graduate School [Government] Interview ----Time and Place July 7, 1988 Mr. Veysey's office, California Institute
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