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Appendix X: Public Information Meeting Transcripts APPENDIX X PUBLIC MEETING TRANSCRIPTS Tier 2 Environmental Impact Statement I-69 Section 6 Martinsville to Indianapolis February 2015 to September 2017 I-69 EVANSVILLE TO INDIANAPOLIS TIER 2 STUDIES Section 6—Final Environmental Impact Statement Appendix X Table of Contents PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING 2/23/2015 ....................................................................... 1 PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING 2/25/2015 ...................................................................... 46 PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETIING 5/18/2015 ...................................................................... 94 PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING 5/19/2015 ....................................................................... 123 PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING 11/30/2015 ..................................................................... 157 PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING 12/2/2015 ....................................................................... 246 PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING 12/3/2015 ....................................................................... 350 PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING 4/4/2016 ......................................................................... 401 PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING 4/5/2016 ......................................................................... 436 PUBLIC HEARING 4/6/ 2017 .................................................................................................... 458 PUBLIC HEARING 4/10/2017 ................................................................................................. 492 PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING 9/12/2017........................................................................ 510 PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING 9/13/2017........................................................................ 516 PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING 9/14/2017........................................................................ 524 i Page 1 of 535 StewartRichardson DEPOSITION SERVICES 800.869.0873 www.StewartRichardson.com Reporting Driven by Excellence - Since 1975 INDIANAPOLIS EVANSVILLE FORT WAYNE VALPARAISO 317.237.3773 812.477.4449 260.444.4864 219.462.3436 Page 2 of 535 ·1 ·2 ·3· · · · · ·INDIANA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION · · · · I-69 SECTION 6 (MARTINSVILLE TO INDIANAPOLIS) ·4· · · · · · · · · · · PUBLIC HEARING ·5 ·6 ·7 ·8· · · · · · · · · · ·February 23, 2015 · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·5:00 p.m. ·9 10 11 12 13· · · · · · · · · · · · · AT THE · · · · · · · · · ·Center Grove High School 14· · · · · · · · 2717 South Morgantown Road · · · · · · · · · · · Greenwood, IN 46143 15 16 17 18· TAKEN BEFORE NANCY M. KOTTENSTETTE, RPR, NOTARY PUBLIC · · · · · · · ·IN AND FOR THE COUNTY OF MARION, 19· · · · · · · · · · ·STATE OF INDIANA 20 21 22· · · · · · · STEWART RICHARDSON & ASSOCIATES · · · · · · · ·Registered Professional Reporters 23· · · · · · · · · · One Indiana Square · · · · · · · · · · · · · Suite 2425 24· · · · · · · · · Indianapolis, IN· 46204 · · · · · · · · · · · · ·(317)237-3773 25 Page 3 of 535 ·1· · · · (Public comments made during open house.) ·2· · · · MR. MARK POWERS:· I would prefer that the 69 ·3· ·go through 37 going north on 37. ·4· · · · MR. LARRY ELSNER:· My name is Larry.· I am for ·5· ·37 through Perry Township. ·6· · · · LESLIE:· I voted for 37.· I wanted 69 to go ·7· ·through 37 because all the lights in there are ·8· ·ridiculous.· I would rather that 37 will be 69. ·9· ·It's a big highway.· You go 60 miles an hour. 10· · · · So the only thing I don't like is if you are 11· ·the housing area there are they going to put a 12· ·barrier in there so that way you are not going to 13· ·be listening to all the trucks going through. I 14· ·don't know if that would be considered in that 15· ·part. 16· · · · So I'll go for 37.· I don't know how many -- I 17· ·know some of the people probably don't really want 18· ·Highway 69 through 37.· I know it was a big thing 19· ·back then, so I don't know now.· I like 37 -- I 20· ·want 37 just to be a regular highway. 21· · · · MR. TIM NICHOLS:· All for I-69.· I hope they 22· ·finish it. 23· · · · MR. THOMAS FOSTER:· I want to make the 24· ·statement to bring Interstate 69 right up where 37 25· ·runs down, and the sooner the better. Page 4 of 535 ·1· · · · MR. LARRY WALLMAN:· Back in 1967, the State ·2· ·Highway Department they had purchased all the land ·3· ·for I-69 through the Castleton area to finish it ·4· ·down to 465.· They made the statement, a record ·5· ·which appeared in the newspaper, in three years ·6· ·they'd have all the land purchased for I-69 from ·7· ·Indianapolis to Evansville. ·8· · · · Where have they been for the last 45 years? ·9· ·It took us 45, 50 years to get something done in 10· ·the state, and that's assuming we ever get this 11· ·finished. 12· · · · But as I traveled to Ohio, Kentucky, other 13· ·states, we are 20, 25 years behind everything.· And 14· ·I don't think you want the newspaper to do an 15· ·investigative story on that, believe me. 16· · · · Have you ever been to Kings Island, Ohio? 17· ·Next time you go there, if you look at I-75 between 18· ·Cincinnati and Dayton, eight lanes.· I-70 from 19· ·Dayton to Columbus, six lanes.· I-71 from Columbus 20· ·to Cleveland, six lanes all the way.· We can't even 21· ·pave I-70 east of Indianapolis to Richmond.· It's 22· ·so rough. 23· · · · You don't want my comment.· Let me tell you 24· ·about Kentucky, things going on in Michigan. 25· ·There's no perfect Shangri-La, but we're decades Page 5 of 535 ·1· ·behind everybody else and not just the interstate. ·2· ·I can give you many other examples. ·3· · · · I would love to see the newspaper complete an ·4· ·investigative story on our highways that would ·5· ·probably be on Pulitzer territory.· I don't think ·6· ·our highway department would be too thrilled about ·7· ·it. ·8· · · · MR. ERIK KLASNICK:· So my concern is what is ·9· ·the cost-benefit from either taking the highway up 10· ·Highway 37 versus going any other route that is not 11· ·yet planned.· I want to know what the costs are, 12· ·and as a taxpayer, what does it -- how does it 13· ·affect our taxes? 14· · · · ANONYMOUS:· My comment is why is this such a 15· ·priority when we cannot keep the roads that we have 16· ·in repair?· I mean, they are in disrepair.· Believe 17· ·me, I drive them every day.· But, yeah, this is 18· ·such an important issue in order to get truck 19· ·drivers 15 minutes at best from the north side of 20· ·Indiana to the south side of Indiana. 21· · · · Does it really make sense?· Because it's going 22· ·to cost me a lot of time and trouble if they go up 23· ·37 because I live on Old 37, and I know how long it 24· ·took them to put in New 37.· And I know how tore up 25· ·we were while they were doing that.· And we're Page 6 of 535 ·1· ·talking a much bigger project. ·2· · · · Now, they would put in a new bridge.· You ·3· ·can't take six lanes of traffic and funnel it into ·4· ·a two-lane road in less than a quarter of the mile ·5· ·and put it across a two-lane bridge, which means ·6· ·they're going to have to build another bridge ·7· ·there.· And it's not going to be a less costly ·8· ·bridge because it is floodplain.· It floods ·9· ·underneath it every time it rains, and there's a 10· ·long span that has to be crossed before you get to 11· ·some solid ground. 12· · · · And I don't want to have to live -- I 13· ·already -- we've got maybe between five and ten 14· ·gravel pits and concrete places and that type thing 15· ·and have these big trucks going by the house and 16· ·down 144 and up over Old 37 all the time.· They 17· ·don't even use New 37 until they have to.· They go 18· ·up our road right in front of our house all day 19· ·long. 20· · · · And now we're going to be stuck for, what, 21· ·another two, three, four years while they're 22· ·building I-69?· When we moved down there, 37 wasn't 23· ·even down there yet, and it got built while we've 24· ·lived there, and we lived through that.· We raised 25· ·our kids during that time.· But why do we have to Page 7 of 535 ·1· ·do that for I-69 to give somebody 15 extra minutes ·2· ·to drive to Evansville? ·3· · · · It makes more sense, if you have to do it, if ·4· ·there's money laying around in the coffers that ·5· ·isn't spoken for, send it up 67.· Mooresville would ·6· ·be happy to have you, I'm sure, because they want ·7· ·to be part of Indianapolis anyway or that seems to ·8· ·be their thing.· They don't want to be part of ·9· ·Morgan County.· They want to trash everything 10· ·except Mooresville and take it -- there's no 11· ·businesses on 67 to speak of.· Take it up 67. 12· · · · You can't get on the interstate at 465 and 37 13· ·right now.· I mean, that is a madhouse all the 14· ·time, not just rush hour, but there's not a whole 15· ·lot of trouble getting off and on at Mann Road and 16· ·off 67.· So let them look that way instead of over 17· ·here going through Waverly. 18· · · · That's where the first place was touted to be 19· ·the capital of Indiana, and they ought to be 20· ·putting some money into bringing that back around 21· ·so that it is more noticeable as a historic town 22· ·instead of trying to make it the slum of 23· ·Indianapolis and Johnson County too.· That's -- I 24· ·just think it's wrong.· It's wrong. 25· · · · You can't do it.· You can't do it feasibly and Page 8 of 535 ·1· ·have any kind of exit ramp at 144 because the state ·2· ·has already sold their part, I mean, of 144 back to ·3· ·Johnson County. ·4· · · · (Public comments made in the auditorium.) ·5· · · · MR. RICKIE CLARK:· So our first speaker on our ·6· ·speaker schedule this evening requesting an ·7· ·opportunity to present a comment will be Cathy ·8· ·Weinmann.· Our first speaker to sign in requesting ·9· ·an opportunity to speak will be Cathy Weinmann, and 10· ·she will be followed by Larry Wallman.· So if 11· ·Mr.
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