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House of Lords Official Report Vol. 738 Monday No. 30 9 July 2012 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES (HANSARD) HOUSE OF LORDS OFFICIAL REPORT ORDER OF BUSINESS Death of a Member: Lord Marshall of Knightsbridge Announcement Questions Environment: Leafleting Passports Eurozone EU: Interpretation and Translation in Criminal Proceedings Designation of Features (Appeals) (England) Regulations 2012 Public Bodies (Abolition of Environment Protection Advisory Committees) Order 2012 Public Bodies (Abolition of Regional and Local Fisheries Advisory Committees) Order 2012 Public Bodies (Abolition of the Commission for Rural Communities) Order 2012 Motions to Refer to Grand Committee Legislative Reform (Annual Review of Local Authorities) Order 2012 Motion to Refer to Grand Committee Justice and Security Bill [HL] Committee (1st Day) Arts and Culture Question for Short Debate Justice and Security Bill [HL] Committee (1st Day) (Continued) Grand Committee Civil Aviation Bill Committee (4th Day) Written Statements Written Answers For column numbers see back page £3·50 Lords wishing to be supplied with these Daily Reports should give notice to this effect to the Printed Paper Office. 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BOUND VOLUMES OF DEBATES are issued periodically during the session. Single copies: Commons, £105; Lords, £40. Standing orders will be accepted. THE INDEX to each Bound Volume of House of Commons Debates is published separately at £9·00 and can be supplied to standing order. All prices are inclusive of postage. © Parliamentary Copyright House of Lords 2012, this publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Parliamentary Click-Use Licence, available online through The National Archives website at www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/information-management/our-services/parliamentary-licence-information.htm Enquiries to The National Archives, Kew, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 4DU; email: [email protected] 901 Death of a Member[9 JULY 2012] Environment: Leafleting 902 for neighbourhood arts and community events, and House of Lords that the need to obtain a licence is simply too costly Monday, 9 July 2012. for many venues and small organisations, as well as being ludicrous red tape? 2.30 pm Lord Taylor of Holbeach: I cannot agree with the Prayers—read by the Lord Bishop of Chester. noble Earl. This is up to local communities to decide. They can determine the balance between propagandising Death of a Member: Lord Marshall of events and social activities and their own interest in Knightsbridge trying to prevent litter and, to some extent, being bothered by people handing out leaflets. Announcement Lord Clark of Windermere: My Lords, has the 2.36 pm Minister seen the increase of small posters advertising The Lord Speaker (Baroness D’Souza): My Lords, functions dotting our roadside, which many of us I regret to inform the House of the death of the noble regard as litter, and has he had any consultations with Lord, Lord Marshall of Knightsbridge, on 5 July. On the police as to the road safety aspects of these many behalf of the House, I extend our condolences to the small posters? noble Lord’s family and friends. Lord Taylor of Holbeach: No, I have not but fly-posting Environment: Leafleting is a problem dealt with by the Localism Act that we passed last year. The noble Lord makes an interesting Question point, but election posters spring to mind as being the 2.37 pm most obvious things that one sees on lamp posts. Asked By Lord Clement-Jones Lord Naseby: My Lords, while I imagine the House To ask Her Majesty’s Government whether they has sympathy with my noble friend’s overall answer, will review the impact of restrictions on leafleting nevertheless, the last review was 2009. Since then a under the Clean Neighbourhoods and Environment great deal has happened locally on the ground, and in Act 2005 on cultural and community events. some parts of the country there are substantial restrictions. Maybe the time is coming for another review. The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Lord Taylor Lord Taylor of Holbeach: I think my noble friend of Holbeach): My Lords, the Environmental Protection has to come to terms with the localism issue. In the Act 1990 was amended in 2005 to enable local authorities end this is up to local authorities to determine. I to control litter from free literature. If a litter problem believe in localism and local decision-making. Local exists, authorities may introduce controls in designated communities elect their local authorities to take care areas to make it an offence to distribute material of such matters. It is not for central government or without consent. Exemptions exist for political, charitable Parliament to determine. or religious purposes. Defra has no plans to amend Lord Foulkes of Cumnock: It might be stretching it this legislation. Authorities should work with the just a little to call it a cultural and community event, community and local businesses to minimise litter but there was a very important event in south-west problems before imposing restrictions. London yesterday and I know that all the litter has been cleared up since then. I wondered whether it Lord Clement-Jones: My Lords, over a third of would be appropriate for the Minister to take this councils now restrict leafleting and some charge exorbitant opportunity to congratulate Andy Murray on a amounts for a licence. The Minister will be aware that tremendous effort—an effort of which everyone in the many local theatres and clubs have been very badly United Kingdom, not just Scotland, should be really affected by these restrictions, with dramatic reductions proud—and to wish him one better next time round. in their audiences. Should this traditional civic freedom not be protected? Will the Government consider Lord Taylor of Blackburn: I am delighted to be able introducing a new exemption for cultural and creative to join in the noble Lord’s congratulations to Andy activities, and not treat these leaflets as no more Murray.I was in the air during this particular tournament important than a crisp packet or burger wrapper? on the way back from a ministerial conference— Lord Taylor of Holbeach: I understand the noble Noble Lords: Oh! Lord’s interest in seeking to preserve community arts and activities but I emphasise that this is a discretionary Lord Taylor of Holbeach: So I am afraid I missed power that I would expect local authorities to apply in all the excitement and only shared the disappointment any way they wish, even within a particular zone. that the whole House felt at the result. Local authorities can give their consent to any group or any event at any time. Lord Swinfen: My Lords, can my noble friend give any indication of the costs to local authorities of The Earl of Clancarty: My Lords, will the Minister clearing up litter? accept that even in this age of social networking, as the evidence suggests, there is no substitute for person- Lord Taylor of Holbeach: Yes, I can give a clue in to-person contact with the public that leafleting affords that street cleaning in the years 2010-11 cost £863 million. 903 Environment: Leafleting[LORDS] Eurozone 904 Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville: My Lords, is my weekend speculation about the Prime Minister’s views noble friend aware of the irony towards which he is on student visas. Can the Minister give us any insight leading us whereby local authorities will be castigated into how thinking is developing in this area? as being philistine because they intervene on cultural leaflets when recent archaeology demonstrates that Lord Henley: My Lords, I fail to see what that has the philistines were actually very civilised people? to do with the Question on the Order Paper, which, as the noble Baroness the Leader of the Opposition will Lord Taylor of Holbeach: I am sure that they were, know, is about passport personal interview offices. I and far be it from me to suggest that any behaviour by recommend that she does not believe everything that a local authority is philistine. she reads in the press. Lord Skelmersdale: My Lords, can the Minister Lord Storey: The Minister will be aware that when give us any update on dissolvable chewing gum, which you apply for a passport you have to have it countersigned I gather has been invented, as chewing gum is the most by “a professional”. In my 30 years as a head, I have horrendous litter problem on our streets? probably done 100 of these. No one has ever checked whether I am the person I am supposed to be. Can the Lord Taylor of Holbeach: I am pleased to say to my Minister tell us how many people who countersign noble friend that I am having a meeting with Wrigley those passports are checked up on? this afternoon.
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