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1 BEFORE THE NEW YORK STATE SENATE FINANCE AND ASSEMBLY WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEES ---------------------------------------------------- JOINT LEGISLATIVE HEARING In the Matter of the 2020-2021 EXECUTIVE BUDGET ON TRANSPORTATION ---------------------------------------------------- Hearing Room B Legislative Office Building Albany, New York January 28, 2020 9:36 a.m. PRESIDING: Senator Liz Krueger Chair, Senate Finance Committee Assemblywoman Helene E. Weinstein Chair, Assembly Ways & Means Committee PRESENT: Senator James L. Seward Senate Finance Committee (RM) Assemblyman Edward P. Ra Assembly Ways & Means Committee (RM) Senator Timothy M. Kennedy Chair, Senate Committee on Transportation Assemblyman William B. Magnarelli Chair, Assembly Committee on Transportation 2 2020-2021 Executive Budget Transportation 1-28-20 PRESENT: (Continued) Senator Leroy Comrie Chair, Senate Committee on Corporations, Authorities & Commissions Assemblywoman Amy Paulin Chair, Assembly Committee on Corporations, Authorities & Commissions Assemblyman David G. McDonough Senator Joseph Robach Assemblyman Jonathan G. Jacobson Senator George M. Borrello Assemblyman Charles D. Fall Senator Andrew Gounardes Assemblyman Edward C. Braunstein Senator Jessica Ramos Assemblywoman Karen McMahon Assemblyman Joe DeStefano Senator James Skoufis Assemblyman Phil Steck Senator Diane J. Savino Assemblyman Steven Otis Assemblywoman Jaime R. Williams Senator Sue Serino Assemblywoman Aileen M. Gunther 3 1 2020-2021 Executive Budget Transportation 2 1-28-20 3 PRESENT: (Continued) 4 Assemblywoman Jo Anne Simon 5 Senator Anna M. Kaplan 6 Assemblywoman Nily Rozic 7 Senator Gustavo Rivera 8 Assemblywoman Alicia Hyndman 9 Senator Todd Kaminsky 10 Assemblyman Robert C. Carroll 11 Senator John C. Liu 12 Assemblyman Kevin Byrne 13 Assemblywoman Patricia Fahy 14 Senator Kevin Thomas 15 Assemblywoman Kimberly Jean-Pierre 16 Senator Brad Hoylman 17 Assemblywoman Tremaine Wright 18 Senator Jamaal T. Bailey 19 Assemblyman Jeffrion L. Aubry 20 Senator Betty Little 21 Assemblywoman Taylor Darling 22 Assemblyman Billy Jones 23 Senator Roxanne Persaud 24 Assemblyman Charles D. Lavine 4 1 2020-2021 Executive Budget Transportation 2 1-28-20 3 PRESENT: (Continued) 4 Assemblywoman Sandy Galef 5 Senator James Gaughran 6 Assemblyman John T. McDonald III 7 Senator Thomas F. O'Mara 8 Assemblyman Michael J. Norris 9 Senator Jen Metzger 10 Assemblyman Colin Schmitt 11 Senator Patrick M. Gallivan 12 Assemblyman Philip A. Palmesano 13 Senator Monica R. Martinez 14 Assemblywoman Yuh-Line Niou 15 16 LIST OF SPEAKERS 17 STATEMENT QUESTIONS 18 Patrick Foye President 19 Robert Foran Chief Financial Officer 20 Janno Lieber Chief Development Officer 21 Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) 10 24 22 Marie Therese Dominguez 23 Commissioner Ron Epstein 24 Exec. Deputy Commissioner NYS Department of Transportation 191 198 5 1 2020-2021 Executive Budget Transportation 2 1-28-2020 3 LIST OF SPEAKERS, Continued 4 STATEMENT QUESTIONS 5 Mark J.F. Schroeder Commissioner 6 New York State Department of Motor Vehicles 345 350 7 Matthew J. Driscoll 8 Executive Director NYS Thruway Authority 406 412 9 Bill Carpenter 10 CEO, Rochester-Genesee Regional Transportation Authority 11 President, New York Public Transit Association 476 481 12 Joel Kie 13 Town of Dickinson Commissioner of Public Works 14 President NYS Association of Town 15 Superintendents of Highways -and- 16 Todd Gadd Wyoming County Commissioner 17 of Public Works President 18 NYS County Highway Superintendents Assn. 19 -and- William Geary 20 Erie County Commissioner of Public Works 21 Legislative Cochair NYS County Highway 22 Superintendents Assn. 487 493 23 Lisa Daglian Executive Director 24 Permanent Citizens Advisory Committee to the MTA 501 506 6 1 2020-2021 Executive Budget Transportation 2 1-28-2020 3 LIST OF SPEAKERS, Continued 4 STATEMENT QUESTIONS 5 Jaqi Cohen Straphangers Campaign 6 Director Karen Padua 7 Policy Associate NYPIRG 508 514 8 Scott Wigger 9 Executive Director Railroads of New York 517 10 Grant Sussey 11 President New York Aviation 12 Management Association 523 13 Campbell H. Wallace, Esq. Director, Government Relations 14 ACEC New York 528 15 Lauren Bailey Director of Climate Policy 16 Tri-State Transportation Campaign 17 -and- Rachel Fauss 18 Senior Research Analyst Reinvent Albany 533 541 19 Mitch LaRosa 20 Program Director Mobility Development 543 549 21 22 23 24 7 1 CHAIRWOMAN WEINSTEIN: Good morning. 2 I'm Helene Weinstein, chair of the New York 3 Assembly Ways and Means Committee and cochair 4 of today's hearing. 5 Today we begin the second in a series 6 of hearings conducted by the joint fiscal 7 committees of the Legislature regarding the 8 Governor's proposed budget for fiscal year 9 2020-2021. The hearings are conducted 10 pursuant to the New York State Constitution 11 and Legislative Law. 12 Today the Assembly Ways and Means 13 Committee and the Senate Finance Committee 14 will hear testimony concerning the Governor's 15 budget proposal for transportation. 16 I'll now introduce the members from 17 the Assembly, and Senator Krueger, chair of 18 the Senate Finance Committee, will introduce 19 members from the Senate, and in addition 20 Ranking Ways and Means Member Ra will 21 introduce members from his conference. 22 So we have with us Assemblyman 23 Magnarelli, chair of Transportation; 24 Assemblywoman Paulin, chair of our 8 1 Corporations Committee; Assemblyman Carroll, 2 Assemblywoman Rozic, Assemblyman Braunstein, 3 Assemblyman Jacobson, Assemblyman Steck, 4 Assemblywoman Williams, Assemblywoman 5 Hyndman. 6 Senate members? 7 CHAIRWOMAN KRUEGER: Thank you. 8 Good morning, everyone. I'm joined by 9 Senator -- I'm so sorry. Excuse me. Leroy 10 Comrie is the chair of Corporations, 11 Authorities and Commissions; Tim Kennedy is 12 the chair of Transportation. Senator Liu, 13 Senator Kaminsky, Senator Thomas, Senator 14 Savino, Senator Rivera and Senator Kaplan are 15 all with us today. 16 And Senator Seward will introduce his 17 members who have joined us. 18 SENATOR SEWARD: Yes, thank you, Madam 19 Chair. We're joined today by the ranking 20 member of the Transportation Committee, 21 Senator Robach. Also Senator Borrello, 22 Senator Little, and Senator Serino will be 23 joining us shortly. 24 CHAIRWOMAN WEINSTEIN: Assemblyman Ra. 9 1 ASSEMBLYMAN RA: Thank you. We're 2 joined this morning by Assemblyman Dave 3 McDonough, the ranking member on the 4 Transportation Committee; Assemblyman Kevin 5 Byrne; and Assemblyman Joe DeStefano. 6 CHAIRWOMAN WEINSTEIN: So before 7 introducing our first witness, a few 8 guidelines for today. I want to remind all 9 witnesses testifying today to keep your 10 statements within your allotted time limit so 11 all can be afforded an opportunity to speak. 12 And in terms of the members, 13 chairpersons of relevant committees have a 14 10-minute allotment for questions and answers 15 of government witnesses. All other 16 legislators who are members of relevant 17 committees receive five minutes for questions 18 and answers. For nongovernmental witnesses, 19 all legislators have five minutes for 20 questions and answers, and the 21 nongovernmental witnesses have up to five 22 minutes for their presentation. 23 And witnesses that have submitted 24 their testimony are reminded that that 10 1 testimony will be part of our record and will 2 be posted online, so please do not feel 3 compelled to read word for word. And a 4 concise summary of your highlights will allow 5 the members' questions to be more productive 6 and focused and allow all of the witnesses 7 testifying to have an opportunity to do so -- 8 maybe not all in daylight, but to a more 9 attentive audience. 10 So with that, I would like to call our 11 first witnesses that are sitting at the 12 table, ready to go. From the Metropolitan 13 Transportation Authority, Patrick Foye, MTA 14 president; Janno Lieber, chief development 15 officer; Bob Foran, CFO. 16 The floor is yours, Patrick. 17 MTA PRESIDENT FOYE: Thank you. Good 18 morning, members of the Senate and the 19 Assembly. Thank you for having us today, 20 particularly Chair Weinstein, Chair Krueger, 21 Chair Comrie, Chair Kennedy, Chair 22 Magnarelli, and Chair Paulin, for your 23 leadership and for the invitation today. 24 I'm here with my colleagues MTA Chief 11 1 Financial Officer Bob Foran to my right, and 2 Chief Development Officer Janno Lieber to my 3 left. When we were here last year, I think 4 it's fair -- it's not an overstatement to say 5 the MTA was at a historic crossroads. Since 6 then, we've made tremendous progress in 7 improving operations and changing the way we 8 do business, with the beginning of 9 transformation underway. But still our core 10 mission remains the same: providing safe and 11 reliable transportation to keep the region 12 moving. 13 Our new chief transformation officer, 14 Anthony McCord, is leading the transformation 15 process -- he's been on the job approximately 16 three weeks -- and assembling the team that 17 will chart the course for the new MTA. We've 18 recently brought on Mario Péloquin as chief 19 operating officer and Mark Dowd as chief 20 innovation officer, with several more 21 additions to the senior leadership team 22 coming soon. Under Anthony McCord's 23 leadership, the Transformation Management 24 Office will lead the MTA's reorganization 12 1 effort and enact the changes necessary to 2 create a leaner, more efficient and 3 centralized agency. 4 This reform is already driving toward 5 meaningful results. For example, Janno 6 Lieber oversees our newly consolidated 7 Construction and Development Division, which 8 serves as a single, central point responsible 9 for planning, development and delivery of 10 capital projects. Four hundred thirty 11 employees have already been reassigned to 12 this Construction and Development department, 13 in a first phase of transformation. Under 14 Janno's leadership, we've started bundling 15 construction projects to expedite project 16 timelines and reduce costs.