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Insurance Write Offs Military Vehicle Weapons Your Drive It Day Pictures Apprenticeship News Book Now for the FBHVC Conference! The Newsletter of the Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs Issue 3, 2016 In this issue: Insurance write offs Military vehicle weapons Your Drive It Day pictures Apprenticeship news Book now for the FBHVC conference! Visit our website at www.fbhvc.co.uk The UK Member of FIVA FBHVC Insurance Scheme for member clubs... When it comes to securing the right insurance for your club, we IFC can help. Aston Scott full page ad With a product endorsed by the FBHVC and only available to member clubs, you can be confident that we have the product you need at a price that is competitive. We specialise in helping clubs and classic motor traders, so why not put us to the test? Email: Debbie Adye [email protected] or Yvonne Bates [email protected] Call us now on 01252 377546 or visit www.astonscott.com 2 FBHVCnews Issue 3, 2016 FBHVC Insurance The Newsletter of the Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs Scheme Chairman: David Whale Editorial Secretary: Rosy Pugh for member All correspondence to the secretary We are now well into the second of charge as a gesture of their solidarity at the Registered Office: stage of our National Historic Vehicle with the historic vehicle community and Stonewold, Berrick Salome, Survey. Having for the first time we take this opportunity of recognising clubs... Wallingford, Oxfordshire, polled a representative sample of their support and expressing our thanks. OX10 6JR the whole population (over 16 years old) on their attitudes and opinions Drive It Day is reported on in this issue. Phone/Fax: 01865 400845 towards historic vehicles, we are now This event is celebrated the length Email: [email protected] receiving detailed feedback from you, and breadth of the country and as the enthusiasts. And you have literally such, making accurate estimates of been responding in your thousands. the numbers of enthusiasts taking When it comes to securing the Luckily, being predominantly an online part is almost impossible. However if The Federation of British Historic computerised piece of research, much you assume that attendances at fixed Vehicle Clubs exists to uphold the right insurance for your club, we of the data analysis can be automated. venues like the British Motor Museum can help. I say predominantly because we at Gaydon and Bicester Heritage are freedom to use historic vehicles on have provided a paper version of the indicative of a general trend then the the road. It does this by representing With a product endorsed by the questionnaire as it was pointed out to fact that Bicester Heritage pre-sold the interests of owners of such us that even in this day and age there 4000 tickets surely demonstrates that vehicles to politicians, government FBHVC and only available to are some out there who do not this year’s event was a record breaker. officials, and legislators both in member clubs, you can be possess or have access to And speaking of Bicester Heritage we the UK and (through membership confident that we have the a computer. Should you spotted a sign on Drive It Day outside of Fédération Internationale des fall into this category the building known as the Engine Véhicules Anciens) in Europe. product you need at a price that but not wish to be Test House – see Karl Carter’s report. There are over 500 subscriber is competitive. disenfranchised you There will be a formal launch in the will find a copy of the summer, but it’s terrific news that organisations representing a total We specialise in helping clubs paper questionnaire Banbury and Bicester College will be membership of over 250,000 in in the next issue of moving their FBHVC Historic Vehicle addition to individual and trade and classic motor traders, so why Octane Magazine. Restoration Apprenticeship course supporters. Details can be found not put us to the test? The publishers of there. What better place to nurture at www.fbhvc.co.uk or sent on Octane have the new generation of craftsmen and application to the secretary. provided this craftswomen. FBHVC is a company limited by service free Geoff Lancaster guarantee, registered number 3842316 and was founded in 1988. Email: Debbie Adye Contents [email protected] 4 Legislation 14 Technical and Events or DVLA updates and news on Get the most from your vehicle Yvonne Bates insurance write-offs. on a great range of events 6 EU Legislation [email protected] Firearms Directive amendments, 15 Trade and Skills LEZs and REACH news. The relaunch of the 7 Heritage apprenticeship scheme at Bicester America’s first road trip. 16 AGM and Conference 9 Research Book now to secure your place Your help is needed for our for 15 October. major new survey. 10 Drive It Day 18 Club News Your photos and news from Extracts from some of the 300 Call us now on 01252 377546 or visit www.astonscott.com 24 April. club newsletters we receive. Lavenham Press are the preferred supplier for print to the Federation credited. Images may be reproduced only with specific permission. All of British Historic Vehicle Clubs. They have a wealth of experience articles are available via email, for more information please contact in the field of club magazines and newsletters and can also offer [email protected] database and membership services Cover photo: The Wartburg Trabant IFA Club messing about in the Subscriber clubs and organisations can reproduce the text of items river on Drive It Day. from this publication in their own publications provided that FBHVC is Issue 3, 2016 FBHVCnews 3 UK Legislation Bob Owen Registration Matters As you know we had experienced an extended failure to We were quite sure that was not the case and some of our come to grips with both the changes in some policies of DVLA members, especially those with specialist skills, drew our and the fact that they kept saying they had not changed attention to books from the ‘50s which very clearly stated anything. Having reached an impasse with DVLA’s chosen the reverse; that local authorities ignored body styles in negotiators, we had reached the stage of taking the matter identifying what constituted a vehicle. But no-one seemed up with the All Party Parliamentary Historic Vehicle Group. to be able to establish a source. We then found ourselves with an extended hiatus as the Well, thanks to help from the Kithead Trust and their DVLA negotiator moved to another post. While the people almost bottomless archive of documents, I was able to we deal with day-to-day were largely unchanged, there was find the Ministry of Transport’s ‘Handbook regarding a no-one to carry on at the level where major policy issues the Taxation and Registration of Mechanically Propelled were concerned and it took a while to establish who we Vehicles the Licensing of Drivers and Related Matters’. This were to speak to. is the instructions to local authorities as to how they should handle their registration and licensing responsibilities The starting gun has now been fired; DVLA have confirmed their new organisation. We have thus taken the opportunity Paragraph 303 (2) deserves to be quoted at length: ‘The to set out the policy questions as we understand them in a most reasonable assumption is that the chassis constitutes co-ordinated manner. We wrote last week to DVLA attaching the vehicle and that the chassis consists not only of the a Policy Paper which sets everything out as fully as we can. frame but also front and rear axles, gears, steering and transmission units. [A] change of body... does not by itself As many of you will recall, the major issue by far was that constitute a change of identity.’ concerning bodies on vehicles with a chassis. DVLA had started for whatever reason to reject applications on the Paragraph 303 (5) make clear that this is not the case with a basis that the body was not original or at the very least monocoque bodyshell so the distinction is clear. consistent with the original style of the vehicle. Sometimes, but not always, they based these decisions on the evidence Having established what was policy I then searched for of the body style shown on an old VE60 logbook. To our any point at which a change in policy might have been certain knowledge certain of their decisions, especially on made and announced by MoT or DVLA. Searching through the latter point, were the reverse of the truth, and some various stages of development of policy on historic vehicles, bodies, of variable quality, which had been on the vehicle such as the setting up of the V765 Scheme, a Consultation during its lifetime but were most certainly not original, were in September 1996, being a five year review of the V765 being preferred. Scheme, and a Consultation on Inspection Processes in 2004, revealed no change. The wording continued to be consistent We have always argued that DVLA’s own publications, with no change having occurred. such as INF 26 and Form V765/3, were so written as to preclude the possibility that bodies on a chassis (in contrast We have set all this out much more fully in our Policy Paper to monocoque bodyshells) were to be taken account of in to DVLA. deciding if a vehicle was genuine. I cannot at this stage predict what DVLA’s response will be The responses of DVLA to our increasingly anguished so our advice to those affected to be patient has to remain protestations were that they had always considered bodies valid. and that this had been the case since local authorities were responsible for vehicle registration and licensing.
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