North Shore Area Transit Plan PHASE 2: Appendix 3 – Stakeholder Visioning Workshop Notes

North Shore Area Transit Plan PHASE 2: Appendix 3 – Stakeholder Visioning Workshop Notes October 2011 January 25, 2011 Session Meeting notes from a North Shore Area Transit Plan (NSATP), Stakeholder Visioning Workshop, held Tuesday, January 25, 2011, at the Pinnacle Hotel, 138 Victory Way, North Vancouver BC PRESENT: (From the attendance sheets) Table 1 – Facilitator George Sali, TransLink Hansworth Secondary School – Road Safety and Parent Advisory Committee (PAC) Grouse Mountain Resorts Ltd. Lonsdale Quay Market Corp. Blueridge Community Association City of North Vancouver Social Planning Advisory Committee Table 2 – Facilitator Matt Craig, TransLink Hansworth Secondary School – Road Safety and PAC Lonsdale Quay Market Corp. Vancouver Coastal Health Blueridge Community Association West Vancouver Seniors Centre Table 3 – Facilitator Graeme Brown, TransLink ICBC NSATP PAC Member Lynn Valley Community Association PAC for North Vancouver School District #44 Advisory Committee on Disability Issues Table 4 – Facilitator Jeff Deby, TransLink Lonsdale Citizens’ Association (CCA-CNV) CARA – Courthouse Area Residents Association Capilano Students Union North Vancouver PAC Edgemont Community Association Table 5 – Michelle Babiuk, TransLink Lonsdale Citizens Association NSATP PAC Member North Vancouver City Library District of North Vancouver’s Community Services Advisory Committee Lions Bay Representative Queen Mary Elementary School North Shore Area Transit Plan 2 | Page Phase 2: 2040 Transit Network Vision | Appendix 3a Table 6 – Facilitator, Andrew Curran, TransLink Lynn Valley Community Association District of North Vancouver’s Community Services Advisory Committee Capilano Community Services Society Edgemont Community Association/FONVCA ALSO PRESENT: Susanne Booth, TransLink Andrew Brooke, TransLink, Facilitator Susan Campbell, Corporate Consulting, Recording Secretary Kate Grossman, TransLink Brian Mills, TransLink Teresa O’Reilly, TransLink Jim Prokop, TransLink The North Shore Area Transit Plan, Stakeholder Visioning Workshop, commenced at 6:08 p.m. Workshop Objectives: • To get input from a variety of stakeholders on what will become a long-standing vision for transit on the North Shore; and, for eventual development into a long-term transit area plan. • Provide an opportunity for groups to hear what others have to say and listen to their concerns and challenges. __________________________________________________________________________ 1. INTRODUCTION AND WELCOME Andrew Brooke, TransLink and Facilitator for the workshop welcomed everyone, reviewed the agenda for the workshop and reviewed the objectives for the workshop. 2. NSATP BACKGROUNDER Jim Prokop, TransLink provided a power point presentation regarding the background to the NSATP. 3. GAME 1 INTRODUCTION – NO FUNDING LIMIT Teresa O’Reilly provided an introduction to Game 1. 4. GAME 1 PLAYED – WHAT DO YOU WANT AND WHERE? All participants played Game 1. Refreshment Break North Shore Area Transit Plan 3 | Page Phase 2: 2040 Transit Network Vision | Appendix 3 5. GAME 1 FINDING – FACILITATOR REPORT OUT AND NOTES FROM THE FLIP CHARTS (integrated into the report out) Table 1 • SeaBus – improved frequency particularly on Sundays and holidays • Phibbs Exchange – Park and Ride should be reopened. There were concerns expressed about safety and a request for more amenities. • Grouse Mountain – request for increased service particularly on Sundays and holidays; and, improved connection to Lonsdale Quay • Light rapid transit between Ambleside and Phibbs Exchange (current infrastructure) • Improved routing from Deep Cove • North Shore – improved linkages to downtown, SFU and Metrotown • Less transfers • Generally improved facilities and amenities Summary • Span of service • Frequency • New routes/links • Amenities • Expand routes • Less transfers • Improve facilities (Park and Ride) Table 2 • Where is future growth and development (+demographics)? • Longer trips • East/west! • Education is important • Improve east/west connections along the North Shore • More direct connections and not having to transfer between services • Interest in connecting to big educational centers of SFU and UBC campuses • Improved coverage of existing North Shore and more smaller buses (shuttles) • Seasonal express service to Seymour and Cypress Mountain • New SeaBus • Highway 1 bus North Shore Area Transit Plan 4 | Page Phase 2: 2040 Transit Network Vision | Appendix 3 Table 3 • Concern expressed that future land use doesn’t reflect First Nations developments • Core services and east west connections need to be improved – rapid bus service and improved SeaBus service • Additional on-demand service (10 minute response time) • Concern about frequency of routes and transfer times • Better communication between School Board and TransLink Table 4 • Believe that main infrastructure needs to be added from Horseshoe Bay to Deep Cove (using existing rail right-of-ways) – very advantageous to cross North Shore and service ferry terminal and Whistler • More creative use of water connections – multiple connection points on the North Shore to downtown (smaller 50-passenger boats, very flexible) • Serve ferries, Sea to Sky – not subject to traffic congestion • Better service up and down Lonsdale • More frequent service and capacity from Cap U to a number of destinations including Phibbs Exchange • Rapid bus following Highway 1 – join Horseshoe Bay to 2nd Narrows one branch to BCIT and one branch to Cap U • With respect to the idea of rapid bus on Highway 1 would need park and rides • School service was a problem – going to school or leaving and a number of groups would benefit from increased capacity and more service frequent times • Seasonal service connecting Grouse Mountain and Capilano Suspension Bridge to Lonsdale Quay • Community shuttles – more widely spread out particularly on Lonsdale Quay • RRT – Horseshoe Bay to Deep Cove Table 5 • East/west connections were important but lots of north/south connections were also important (for example residential neighbourhoods and Lions Bay) • Regional connections especially over 2nd Narrows Bridge to Expo Line, east side of downtown and more direct service to UBC • Span of service was seen important particularly late night service to downtown • Increased frequency was important but not necessarily every 15 minutes, for example 1 hour to ½ hour • Need limited stops (rapid but less frequent service) • Rail connection to Squamish North Shore Area Transit Plan 5 | Page Phase 2: 2040 Transit Network Vision | Appendix 3 Table 6 • Initially there was some contention around no funding constraints with the suggestion that Personalized Rapid Transit (PRT) could on demand pick up and deliver people to their destination. This would be instant and could perhaps be provided by taxis. • Bring back street cars. Why street cars? Electric, lower operating costs and emissions. Local service – Lonsdale to Lynn Valley, Lonsdale to Capilano, Lonsdale to West Vancouver and Lonsdale to Seymour. Note: Frequent bus or street car doesn’t matter as long as it’s frequent. • School route needed from Norgate to Edgemont to William Griffen Community Centre • Phibbs Exchange to Lynn Valley – direct east/west cross town bus terminates at Grouse Mountain • More SeaBuses and more connections to more places • Local frequent street car from Deep Cove to Horseshoe Bay and up Lynn Valley and up Lonsdale • Direct upper level cross town bus and up to Grouse Mountain • Phibbs Exchange – chaos! No lines on lot – also need lot on east side with pedestrian connections to avoid mess • Need to locate a few strategic park and rides – particularly one on the east side of highway at Phibbs Exchange • Rapid bus to SFU from Phibbs Exchange • West Coast Express extension across 2nd Narrows and then low-level route and connecting to Squamish (West Coast Express type service) • More frequent flexible type service in neighbourhoods during peak hours i.e. from British Properties, etc. • Water – SeaBus to Port Moody? 6. GAME 2 – INTRODUCTION – WE HAVE A BUDGET Teresa O’Reilly provided an introduction to Game 2. 7. GAME 2 PLAYED – RESOURCES ARE LIMITED, WHAT WOULD YOU DO? All participants played Game 2. 8. GAME 2 FINDING – FACILITATOR REPORT OUT AND FLIP CHART COMMENTS (integrated into the report out) Table 1 • Network – wanted to improve frequency between North Shore and Vancouver • New route – Lonsdale east to Phibbs Exchange via Highway • Improved frequency of SeaBus and routes across the Lions Gate Bridge • Improve east/west connections - north of Edgemont Village has to have improved east/west connections and could be met by local service routes (community shuttles) • Rapid bus transit between Lonsdale and Phibbs Exchange and park and ride at Phibbs Exchange • Improve frequency between Lonsdale and Park Royal (east/west) and improve frequency between Park Royal and Ambleside • Park and Ride – Phibbs Exchange North Shore Area Transit Plan 6 | Page Phase 2: 2040 Transit Network Vision | Appendix 3 Table 2 • A lot of discussion around future network and improving east/west connections • Interested in how far east/west travel connection needs to extend • Improve local connections (local trips within communities) • Upper east/west route (Highway 1) • Good discussion about connections and transferring and improving that experience • Big focus on east/west and Highway 1 • Disjointed cross North Shore to downtown • Low density/low demand areas need more coverage, less frequent, new vehicle type • Improved SeaBus service to every

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