Transcript by MrsBlueBacon
EFA Episode 301 Dom inating Fic
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MUSIC : Write My Story by Olly Anna
ANNOUNCER GUY : You've tuned in to the Earp Fiction Addiction, a fan podcast all about Wynonna Earp fanfiction. Join our intrepid host DarkWiccan and Delayne as they dive deep into the sometimes sweet, sometimes spicy, and always varied world of fanfiction for the Wynonna Earp fandom.
MUSIC : A Proper Story by Darren Korb
DARKWICCAN : Thanks announcer guy, and welcome everybody to episode one of season three of the Earp Fiction Addiction, the podcast dedicated entirely to Wynonna Earp fanfiction. I am your host DarkWiccan, and with me are my delightful cohosts, Delayne...
DELAYNE : Hello.
DARKWICCAN : ...and Laragh.
LARAGH : Hi.
DARKWICCAN : And we are super excited because this super duper, extra special, awesome, amazing, other adjectives episode...
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ...features a pretty awesome guest for our second segment.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : But I’m not gonna give away who that is just yet. I’m gonna let you wonder. [pause] Ok, I’m not gonna let you wonder...
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ...I’m gonna tell you because, because we’ve already given it away with the title of the episode.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : That’s right, we’ll be discussing with, or so, sort of kind of fanfiction, with Dominique P C in our second segment, but before we do that, we’re gonna be chatting about some really cool fic, but before we do that, we have a couple of new patrons.
DELAYNE : Yay. [laughter]
LARAGH : Yay, woohoo. Go patrons.
DARKWICCAN : If you joined our patreon recently as these two folks did, you know that uh, we have had a dump of information come over since the end of last season. A whole bunch...
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ...of, I’ve got, what’s so funny? What’s so funny? Why are you laughing? What’s going on?
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter] I’m, I’m just remembering my email inbox. It was just like for pages and pages.
DELAYNE : [laughter] I remember...
LARAGH : Patreon. Patreon.
DELAYNE : ...Laragh messaging us about it, too.
DARKWICCAN : That’s right. It was a ton of bonus tracks that I owed our patrons. Finally got everything posted and we have a couple of audiobooks that will have posted by the time this episode airs. Patron exclusive audiobooks, uh, so if you’d like to get in on those cool things, uh, please swing by our Patreon at Patreon dot com slash E F A podcast. Take a look around and see what tier you might wanna donate to, to get access to these fun goodies. You can also visit our Redbubble store at Redbubble dot com slash people slash E F A podcast slash shop, and purchase a nifty mug or t shirt or pillow, or what have you. Got a few...
DELAYNE : Stickers. I like the stickers.
DARKWICCAN : And stickers. We’ve got...
LARAGH : Yes. Stickers.
DARKWICCAN : ...I’ve got a few new designs that will be making their debut as this season begins, so hop...
LARAGH : Exciting.
DARKWICCAN : ...over there and see if you’d like to purchase any of the new stuff, um, or just listening to us. Listening to us is great. Telling your friends to listen to us is awesome. Uh...
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ...we accept support in all its forms. Thank you so much for sticking with us through two seasons and into the third, and boy is this one gonna be epic. Sort of. Because we’re only doing twenty episodes.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Instead of thirty.
LARAGH : But for a very good reason.
DARKWICCAN : A very good reason. [laughter] I’m going to be front pooping a baby out of my vagina. That’s right Jeremy.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : I said vagina.
DELAYNE : [still laughing]
DARKWICCAN : So, as a result...
DELAYNE : [stiiiiiiiill laughing]
DARKWICCAN : Just killed my cohosts.
LARAGH : Yeah, Delayne’s just dying there for a moment.
DELAYNE : [STIIIILLL laughing] Oh my god. [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : But as a result
LARAGH : [unintelligible]
DARKWICCAN : ...this season is going to be abbreviated by ten episodes, so, we’ll have episodes running all the way through the end of November, um, so be sure to tune in for it because we’re doing our best to make this season, though short, frickin’ fabulous.
LARAGH : Good things come in small packages.
DARKWICCAN : That’s right.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : That’s right.
DELAYNE : Oh my god. I’ve missed you guys so much.
LARAGH : Did, did I mean the podcast? Did I mean the baby? Maybe both? Nobody will ever know.
DARKWICCAN : Maybe both. Maybe both.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Maybe the baby will have their own podcast.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : Oh my god.
DARKWICCAN : So, moving right along, uh, as, as Delayne collects herself, we have, so because we are chatting with Dominique, much like when we chatted with Kat, we’re gonna spend this first segment talking about fics that were inspired by prompts that she has given, um, and because I’ve been stopping by conventions where they’re appearing, and asking them directly for prompts, each of, each of these prompts was an intentional prompt. [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Uh, which, which I think is great. Both unintentional and intentional prompts are great, but there’s just something so great about an intentional prompt because then they know that creativity is happening uh, out in the world based on a suggestion they’ve made which I think is, is a lot of fun. At least for me, with an improv background. I love being given a suggestion and running with it, so. And I love giving suggestions and watching it being run with, so. Uh, so that’s what we’re doing. The uh, prompts that we’re discussing today, uh, one of them was taken from Emerald City ComiCon, two of them taken from ClexaCon twenty nineteen, uh, and there....[laughter]
LARAGH : That’s it. [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : That’s it. Thanks everybody, we’ll see you in the second segment of the show. We’re not even gonna tell you what they are. No, what’s interesting is that two of these fics were um, written by the same author. One as a soloist, and one working with, one time working with a partner. Um, and I just shows, goes to show ya, uh, that, um, so, what I’m, I think what I’m trying to say is that uh, prompts do inspire, and they...
LARAGH : Yes.
DARKWICCAN : ...can inspire ya know, different things from the same person, and, and that is, again, really cool. I love how prolific this particular author is. Um, but I’m gonna pass the mic over to you, Laragh, so I know it’s three thirty in the morning there in Ireland, so...
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ...we’ll get you out of the way first.
LARAGH : [laughter]
DELAYNE : That’ll give me a chance to compose myself.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter] Yeah, so, tell us about this first fic that we’re discussing today.
LARAGH : So, the first fic we’re discussing is called, oof. Someone else is gonna have to pronounce this one first because...
DARKWICCAN : Bow nilla [ph] (Baunilha). Baunilha.
LARAGH : Baunilha. Baunilha. Um, by Lucky...
DELAYNE : It’s Portuguese
LARAGH : ...sorry.
DELAYNE : ...right, for vanilla.
LARAGH : Yes.
DARKWICCAN : Si.
DELAYNE : Something in the author’s notes, sorry. [laughter] Didn’t mean to interrupt you.
LARAGH : Yeah, no, it’s Baunilha by LuckyWantsToKnow, or just Lucky as I believe...
DARKWICCAN : Mhmm.
LARAGH : ...we know them as. Um, this is a E rated fic, warning.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : [laughter] It is definitely an E rated fic.
LARAGH : I forgot, I forgot to look at, I forgot to look at the warning before I read it, and I got a surprise.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : This is an E rated fic that uh, it follows Waverly and Nicole as they journey around the world through cuisine. They play a fantasy vacation game and they decide to bring their cooking into it. Then other kitchen activities ensue.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : That are not necessarily meant for kitchens, but happen in kitchens. Relatively...
DELAYNE : [laughter continues]
LARAGH : Happen in kitchens.
DARKWICCAN : ...frequently in fiction.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : Yes, the kitchen is a popular spot.
DARKWICCAN : I just think it’s uncomfortable. I mean, the hard surface of, like, the countertops, or the, or the, or the table top, it’s just hard, it’s a hard, unforgiving surface.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : And the table is never the right, like, height.
DARKWICCAN : It never.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : Never.
DARKWICCAN : I’m just shocked that it can support the weight of two grown adults. Especially...
LARAGH : Like...
DARKWICCAN : ...the Homestead table.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : Right. I’m picturing the Homestead table now, yeah.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter] You’re welcome. Feeder of the mind.
DELAYNE : [laughter] Isn’t there, I, there’s some, I think an actual fic author, or at least a fic, uh, reader that mentioned, uh, a kitchen accident [laughter] before, too, so that whole idea is just kind of frightening to me.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
LARAGH : Yeah.
DARKWICCAN : Yeah, I really do love the creativity behind making this prompt work. ‘Cause this specific prompt...
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ...this specific prompt was...
LARAGH : Yes! Kat made it difficult.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Quite difficult.
LARAGH : I’m not calling her out, but, girl.
DARKWICCAN : Yeah.
LARAGH : Most people don’t boil fruit.
DARKWICCAN : Yeah.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : I’m just...
DARKWICCAN : Unless you’re making, unless you’re making a jam or a jelly, and then, that’s how...
LARAGH : Right.
DARKWICCAN : ...Lucky very cleverly got around this, ‘cause it was, basically the fic prompt was um, boiling goy aba [ph] (goiaba).
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Which, is just, ok.
DELAYNE : I want... [laughter]
LARAGH : Not common. Unusual.
DARKWICCAN : Basically, they had to be cooking, the characters had to be cooking together, and they had to be using, and so, um, Dom’s contribution was they had to be using goiaba, which is basically guava, a guava fruit, and uh, and Kat goes, “and they need to boil it.” And Dom was like “uhhh ”.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [unintelligible] “...boiling water and go”, and it’s like “what?”
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Yeah, and Dom’s just like...
LARAGH : Dom’s face is such a meme. [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Because, yeah, right? She was just so, “ok ”.
LARAGH : She was like “what?”
DARKWICCAN : “I don’t know how that’s gonna work, but go for it.”
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : I think it’s because, it’s because Kat, I don’t think, understood what goiaba was, and in fairness, I don’t think many of us in the audience did before looking it up. Then we all looked it up and went
DELAYNE : [laughter] I still...
DARKWICCAN : ...“oh it’s guava.”
LARAGH : Oh, it’s guava. [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : I wonder how long, uh, how much, how much research went into the recipe, or if there’s like multiple recipes, ya know, I guess that’s...
DARKWICCAN : Knowing Lucky...
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ...knowing Lucky, I’m sure there was a decent amount of research before they sat down and started writing.
DELAYNE : [laughter] “What recipe involves boiling guava?”
LARAGH : [laughter] Boiled...
DARKWICCAN : Yeah, what happens when I take guava and I boil it? Like, what can I do with it?
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : So, no, I think they did research this particular recipe and um, they, uh, ya know, wrote it into the story, and uh, and then...
DELAYNE : Made it work. [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ...they...
DELAYNE : Then they detoured.
DARKWICCAN : ...and then it became a playing with your food situation.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Which can be read multiple ways.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : Right.
DARKWICCAN : But...
LARAGH : And it’s literally the last line of the fic.
DARKWICCAN : ...yeah, I just love the fact that, uh, was it this one? Oh, no, I think I’m confusing the stories, hang on. No.
LARAGH : I do that all the time.
DARKWICCAN : No, I think this is the one where Wynonna is in the living room going “you guys, cut it out!” or whatever. [laughter]
LARAGH : Yes, yes it is.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Yeah, yeah.
LARAGH : Before they go shopping, yeah.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Yeah, so. [laughter]
DELAYNE : I like how this one is, it hints that it’s in canon because they have the little quip between us, the “you’d do that for me and I’d do anything” uh, yeah.
LARAGH : It’s using lines from the show, which is one of my favorite things to read and write, is...
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : ...when people...
DARKWICCAN : Yeah.
DELAYNE : Well, I...
LARAGH : ...use lines from the show.
DELAYNE : ...but it...
LARAGH : Big thumbs up for that.
DELAYNE : ...But it also directly states, like, this was a common quip between them...
LARAGH : Right.
DELAYNE : ...ever since that incident, so, ya know.
DARKWICCAN : Yeah.
DELAYNE : It, like, firmly sets us into we are in canon.
DARKWICCAN : Yeah.
DELAYNE : With their culinary creation...
LARAGH : I don’t think any of us have trouble believing that they would have sex in the kitchen.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : No, no, that is not...
LARAGH : In canon.
DARKWICCAN : ...the unbelievable part here.
LARAGH : I think it’s probably happened.
DARKWICCAN : Yeah.
LARAGH : I’m sure it’s happened.
DARKWICCAN : That is not the unbelievable part here.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : Mhmm.
DARKWICCAN : The unbelievable part, the hardest part to figure out, or dare I say swallow...
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ...is the...
LARAGH : Oh no.
DARKWICCAN : ...jelly.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : Oh. Oh, why? Why do you use that word?
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : I, I don’t think I’d like going with tapioca, so.
LARAGH : Yeah, no. I’ve never swallowed tapioca pudding and I never will.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : I have and it’s either, it’s, tapioca’s one of those puddings that you have to have at a certain point in your life when your taste buds are open to it. And it’s not a big window. It is a very narrow window because I actually had tapioca when I was in middle school and I liked it. Fast forward a few years, I, I, ya know, there’s tapioca, I think it was high school, they had tapioca. I was like “oh, tapioca, I like tapioca.” I got tapioca and it was disgusting.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : And I couldn’t figure out if it was just their tapioca, so I tried tapioca other places and it was disgusting. So, I was like “clearly I had the window of tapioca time and I have now grown past it.” [laughter]
LARAGH : I love that you thought I was talking about tapioca for real. [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter] I detoured this conversation because I didn’t wanna talk about anything else regarding what DW said.
DARKWICCAN : Well, then let’s move on.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Let’s move on to our next fic. So, Delayne, you’re on deck. What, tell us about our next fic.
DELAYNE : So, let’s talk about “Bad Seafood” by LuckyWantsToKnow and BaggerHeda, Bagger...Boo. By Lucky and Boo.
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Ok, but, let’s get their, their author pen name out. So, BaggerHeda.
DELAYNE : BaggerHeda, A K A boo_in_la, and LuckyWantsToKnow, who wrote the previous one we just talked about. Uh.
DARKWICCAN : So, what was the prompt they were, uh, answering here?
DELAYNE : So, in this prompt, it was a boat, amnesia, and bad seafood. Right?
DARKWICCAN : Mhmm. Mhmm.
DELAYNE : Yeah, and the way these two get around this prompt [laughter]...
LARAGH : Yes.
DELAYNE : ...was frickin’ fantastic. Um.
LARAGH : Yeah, agreed.
DARKWICCAN : It’s a master class in how to fill a prompt without filling a prompt.
DELAYNE : Exactly. [laughter]
LARAGH : Yes.
DELAYNE : Um, so, uh, the story is, um, Nicole has to go to this mandatory, like, health class that, that I guess city, or state, county, whatever employees have to take [laughter]. “Sorry, sir, must have been the amnesia” ‘cause she really didn’t wanna sign up for it. [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DELAYNE : Frickin’ genius. And of course, Waverly is teaching the class in her cute little crossfit outfit. [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : So, this is an AU. It’s taking place within, ya know, a semi canon world of Purgatory. In this scenario, Waverly and Nicole have never met before.
DELAYNE : Right. So, Waverly’s teaching class and this is where they meet, and um, there’s, there’s a little bit of showing off on the track. Which is part of the reason why Nicole didn’t wanna take this, like she already does health and fitness, has no problems with it, and uh, so, she shows up this guy on the track, one of the hose jockey’s ‘cause of course she’s one of the only police officer. Most of them are um, fireman and uh, I, I, kinda wanna be offended of what they said about the city employees. Ya know, lying prone and panting.
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : But, it’s true...
DELAYNE : But, I resemble that remark.
DARKWICCAN : ...though.
DELAYNE : So, I can’t.
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Yeah.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : Literally.
DELAYNE : Oh, man. I would get my ass kicked if I tried.
LARAGH : [laughter]
DELAYNE : Um, anyway, so, uh, they break for lunch and then they have a classroom setup after, uh, and at lunchtime they go to this nearby Mexican place and uh, Nicole orders fish tacos, uh, Waverly comments that it’s bad seafood. She has no idea what it means.
DARKWICCAN : Yes.
DELAYNE : So, we get back to class and Waverly points out that bad seafood is, Nicole had ordered a fish that was not sustainably harvested. [laughter]
LARAGH : Which is brilliant. The end. Master class stroke of genius.
DELAYNE : Seriously. Um, and then [laughter]
LARAGH : Fantastic.
DELAYNE : ...the uh, the boat gets slipped in by a bit of a day dream. And it’s actually a paddleboat, or paddleboard, and uh, we cross over into the E rated section during the day dream. [laughter]
LARAGH : For a moment.
DELAYNE : Just a moment. It doesn’t quite make it all the way to E, I don’t know.
DARKWICCAN : I just love the image of uh, Waverly snapping Nicole back to attention in the classroom and Nicole knocking the desk with her knee.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : I can just see that happening. She just jumps...
LARAGH : Yes.
DARKWICCAN : ...and the desk goes [imitates desk knocking around sound]. [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter] Um, then, Nicole finally asks Waverly out at the end of the class. I...
DARKWICCAN : Yeah, that’s pretty much it.
LARAGH : Yeah. That’s the fic.
DARKWICCAN : That’s it. Yeah.
DELAYNE : But yeah, the way that I, I mean, when you say master class, you are not kidding. I, this just, frickin’ brilliant.
DARKWICCAN : And, and, again, I think it’s a great example of um, how, ya know, for, ok, the toothpaste prompt we did for last season’s fic challenge. So many people were like how am I gonna work this in. And it was just a single word prompt. It could have been as simple as someone said, ya know, uh, “she saw a bit of toothpaste left over on the mirror.” And that would have satisfied the prompt.
LARAGH : Yeah.
DARKWICCAN : But, ya know, I think it’s a great example of, you might be writing toward a prompt that you don’t like, or you just aren’t finding particularly inspiring, so, find a way to write around it.
LARAGH : Mhmm.
DARKWICCAN : And you still satisfy the prompts and you’ll probably come up with something really creative and cool, which I think is definitely what happened here. I gotta praise Nicole for having one heck of a day dreaming imagination.
DELAYNE : [laugher] Right?!
LARAGH : Yeah, and you will note that in both of these fics, the one we just talked about and this one, that Nicole imagines Waverly in swim wear.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Yes. Yeah. So, the question is, is that Lucky’s contribution both times or is it just, was it Boo’s contribution this time and it just so happen to line up with Lucky’s vision last time...in the previous fic?
DELAYNE : [laughter] It’s just a good image and they all love it.
LARAGH : I think, um, I think Lucky’s says in the note that the, um, paddle board idea was hers. And that she got Boo to...
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : ...write it.
DARKWICCAN : Ok.
LARAGH : Yeah.
DARKWICCAN : So, so, Lucky, we figured out one of your things.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter] We just got a little insight.
DARKWICCAN : Yeah.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : Into Lucky’s mind.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter] Ok, so that again is “Bad Seafood” by BaggerHeda, A K A Boo, and LuckyWantsToKnow. Alright, and now for the last fic, uh, that we’re gonna chat about before we get to the much anticipated second segment. If you’ve even listened to this this far, kudos my friends for not fast forwarding.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter] We won’t blame you.
DARKWICCAN : We don’t blame you, but these fics are really good, and this fic, I...
DELAYNE : Oh my god, this fic.
DARKWICCAN : ...I wrestled it. I wrestled this fic from Delayne and Laragh because I wanted to talk about it.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DELAYNE : That doesn’t surprise me. [laughter]
LARAGH : Yeah.
DARKWICCAN : So, this fic is called “Torpedoed Memories” and it’s by green_ola. As you know, we had green_ola on the show last season to talk about her two fics that were both historical fictions, um, and that is her wheelhouse and she stays firmly in it here. Uh, this is a fictionalized retelling of the Potlatch survivors, uh, in World War II, and includes the uh, taking Nicole in the shoes of a very interesting lady, uh, who was a bit of a, I wouldn’t say, I mean technically socialite just because of her wealth, um, but, really, um, a kickass broad. Uh, she was gender non comforming, and totally a lesbian and had some flings with some very famous people.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : Yes.
DARKWICCAN : And was also a redhead, just like Nicole, so really a perfect fit. Um, and I will talk about this incredible person once I get through the quick summary of the story. Ok, so, the Potlatch incident that happened in World War II, the Potlatch was an actual um, uh, U S Navy boat, and it was torpedoed by a German U boat, and the members onboard had to scramble onto lifeboats and survive uh, essentially on small rations and seaweed and their wits for over a month before they were rescued, um, by this famous individual who Nicole is standing in for. Now, um, this ship was an armed merchant ship, so they were carrying heavy cargo like tanks and um, jeeps and things like that, and yeah, they got taken out. Um, so, in reality there were no women onboard, but again, this is a historical fiction, so...
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ...green has taken some liberties and has placed uh, the Earp sisters onboard in disguise as men, um, and it is quickly discovered, even though they have been serving for quite some time, in these disguises, with apparent success, uh that in the course of escaping boat, the Potlatch, uh, their actual genders are discovered. Um, and they are actually, I wanna, would you say quarantined, or off of the main uh, lifeboat, into a separate dinghy, uh because the other male sailors are saying “oh, I can’t have a woman on a boat, she’s bad luck. That’s the reason why our boat got sunk.” And they’re like, “this is ridiculous, but ok.” So, there’s the boat moment. This is the same prompt that BaggerHeda, or Boo, and Lucky were writing from. You got a boat, you got amnesia, you got bad seafood. So, the boat element is satisfied there, uh, the amnesia is satisfied by Waverly being injured in the wreck and losing her memory, and then the bad seafood comes into play when they’ve run out of rations um, they’ve been surviving on seaweed, and they luck out when a flying fish lands in their boat, in the belly of their little dinghy, and um, Waverly says “oh, no thank you.” And Wynonna being too hungry to think clearly just dives right in and makes herself nice and sick. So, we have satisfied all three of these things before we’ve even met Nicole. So, how does Nicole come into this? Well, heroically of course. Arriving in a luxury yacht, she rescues all of the surviving men from their lifeboat, and of course also rescues Waverly and Wynonna from their dinghy, um, and takes them, takes the men to a uh, outpost where they can then receive aid from the military hospital, and due to the fact that Wynonna and Waverly were masquerading as men and were not actually men, for their own protection, she takes them with her back to her private island. So, uh, over the course of the next month, few months, while both the Earp sisters are recovering on Nicole’s island, and they’re getting to know Nicole better, uh, Dolls is also there. He’s sort of the head, um, he’s sort of the butler, but more on an equal footing with Nicole as far as respect, and ya know, um, treatment of eachother. But, you would think, well, we’ve got a two romance situation going on here. We’ve got ya know, Waverly and Nicole, of course, and then we’ll have Wynonna and Dolls. I am not going to tell you.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ‘Cause you gotta read the story yourself. Uh, but I think the obvious thing is this is a WayHaught story primarily, well, it’s an Earp sisters story primarily.
DELAYNE : Yeah.
DARKWICCAN : A WayHaught story secondarily, and whatever happens else, thirdarily [ph]? Thirdly.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : So...
LARAGH : Thirdly.
DELAYNE : I like thirdarily. I’m gonna start using it.
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : So. Thirdarily. That’s a new word. It’s my word now.
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : So, yes, of course Waverly and Nicole do fall in love. But it’s not an in your face thing, it’s sort of a background thing. It’s actually really well handled.
DELAYNE : Yeah, I like how that was handled. It was like “huh, that was neat.”
DARKWICCAN : I like it, too. Yeah, uh, so, that is essentially the story. If you wanna find out what fully happens, please check out “Torpedoed Memories”. Now, before we move on, um, I do wanna chat quickly about the character, or the actual individual that Nicole’s character is based on. So, this character is a gal by the name of Joe Carstairs, uh, she was a British speedboat racer and an heiress to standard oil, so she was frickin’ rich dude.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : In order to not be written out of the will, she married her best friend, uh, and then when her Mom died, they promptly anulled the marriage and she took her inheritance. Uh, she uh, actually did rescue the survivors of the Potlatch who really did survive at sea for over a month. Uh, and uh, but everything else about, that is described about Nicole’s character, which in reality is this Joe, uh, individual is true. Including her flings with famous actress, like Marlene Dietrich and Greta Garbo, uh, and the island that she owned is currently for sale.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Or at least it was as of last year, so if anyone has a cool twenty mil lying around, there...
DELAYNE : [laughter] Yeah, let me just write a check.
DARKWICCAN : ...is a cool formerly lesbian owned, there is a formerly lesbian owned island out in the Bahamas just lookin’ for a new owner.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Maybe that could be Earp Island, who knows.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DELAYNE : Alright, everyone...
DARKWICCAN : So, yeah...
DELAYNE : ...put in their two dollars. [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ...put in, yeah, everybody, yeah. If we all...
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ...pull the money together, I’m sure we can make it work.
DELAYNE : Oh.
DARKWICCAN : But, ok, so check out those three stories “Baunilha”, “Bad Seafood”, and “Torpedoed Memories”, but now, let’s get to what you’ve all been waiting for, our reverse sponsor spot.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : So, in order to honor our lovely guest, Miss Dominique Provost Chalkley, we have an extra special reverse sponsor for this week, Laragh, can you tell us who the reverse sponsor is.
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DARKWICCAN : Hey everybody, and welcome back to the Earp Fiction Addiction, the podcast entirely about Wynonna Earp fanfiction. I am your host DarkWiccan, and with me are my fantastic cohosts, Delayne...
DELAYNE : Hello.
DARKWICCAN : ...and Laragh.
LARAGH : Hey.
DARKWICCAN : And as we teased before the break, we are so excited to welcome to the show, the lady who is the angel of our hearts and the butterfly of our soul.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Aww.
DARKWICCAN : Actress and activist Dominique Provost Chalkley.
DOMINIQUE : Oh my god, that was like the nicest introduction ever. Thank you.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : [uniintelligible]
DARKWICCAN : Well, you are utterly welcome and entirely deserving.
DOMINIQUE : Aww, you’re so kind. Very, very kind. Well, hi, I’m very, very happy to be here. Um, you have definitely got one of the most incredible voices for podcasts.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Like, it’s out of this world, I have to say.
DARKWICCAN : Oh my gosh, well thank you so much. And, you can actually thank my Dad, ‘cause he was the radio pro, and kind of taught me everything I know.
DOMINIQUE : Oh, he was? It’s like in your blood.
DARKWICCAN : Totally. Totally in the blood. Mhmm. Mhmm.
DOMINIQUE : Cool.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter] Well, Dominique, thank you so much for joining us today. This is so kind of you, and generous, and we’re so excited to talk with you.
DOMINIQUE : Oh, good. I’m glad. Yeah, me too. Like I said, it’s an absolute pleasure, and there’s nowhere I’d rather be right now, to be honest.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Aww. I feel all warm inside.
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : This podcast is just starting with so much love, I love it.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter] We are all about the love here. We are all about the love.
DELAYNE : Part of the fandom, too, is all about the love.
DARKWICCAN : Yep.
DOMINIQUE : Absolutely.
DARKWICCAN : Now, it’s always tricky having a cast member on because I know that you’re not technically allowed to read Wynonna Earp fanfiction, uh, so what we kinda wanna focus on is more like queer representation and characterization and things like that.
DOMINIQUE : Yeah, absolutely.
DARKWICCAN : So, out of curiosity, how do you feel about the world of fanfiction. You know, a lot of queer people have been writing fanfiction for many years because there was not quality representation elsewhere.
DOMINIQUE : Mhmm.
DARKWICCAN : How do you feel about it? Have you ever read any? How do you feel about its role in fandom? And is it weird to you that there’s this world of
DOMINIQUE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ...fan produced content that you can’t actually access, unlike fanart and cosplay?
DOMINIQUE : [sigh] Well, I haven’t actually read any fanfiction. I have to be honest. Um, I found out about fanfiction after I started doing Wynonna , and uh, I have been kind of politely, like, been told to maybe not dive too far into the fanfiction world, just because it could be confusing for characterization or all of that kind of stuff. But, I’m extremely curious, like, it’s super curious. And every time I have a meet and greet um, at the conventions, I’m like “so, can you tell me a little bit about what’s going on in the fanfiction world?”
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : And I have heard some things, you guys. Now, [unintelligible], but I absolutely love it. Yeah, there seems to be all sorts of stuff out there, um, but what I would say really, is that I just love the fact that there’s a platform for creativity beyond the show, like it encourages and inspires, like, young writers to, to lose themselves in the world where they feel safe, and that is just so fantastic. Like, I encourage it, absolutely one hundred percent because I think now, more than ever, really, in this world, we need to be encouraging creativity because, like, well, art is gonna change the world, I truly believe, and I think that it, like, pushes the discussion forward in so many ways. So, if it, like, creates a platform for that, I just think that’s absolutely beautiful and wonderful. And I do hope that one day [laughter]...
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : ...I’m gonna dive into it with a nice glass of wine...
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : ...and have a right old giggle.
DELAYNE : Well, I believe I told Kat that, uh, what, in fourteen years or so when the show ends...
DOMINIQUE : Yeah.
DELAYNE : ...you can go and read it all. [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Exactly, yeah. [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : And, I think you’d actually be really touched by the amount of very sweet and emotional, uh, writing that has been created as a result...
DOMINIQUE : Mmm.
DARKWICCAN : ...of the inspiration of WayHaught. Um, and, uh, ya know, ‘cause, I mean, obviously there is the more adult side of fanfiction, but really...
DOMINIQUE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ...the majority of the work is about communication and relationships and love and soulmates...
DOMINIQUE : Mmm.
DARKWICCAN : ...and it’s just really, really lovely stuff.
DOMINIQUE : Oh, how beautiful. How gorgeous. And I guess it’s just like, it gives the opportunity for the fans to dream, ya know. You find the thing that your, that, like, makes you tick, or you find the thing that, ya know, you’re passionate about, and that you love and then you can just run with that and lose yourself into that world, which is [sigh] just exactly what we all need sometimes, ya know?
DARKWICCAN : Absolutely.
LARAGH : Yeah, so, um, ya know, a lot of time, queer people are kind of relegated into accepting any representation that comes along because we have so little to begin with.
DOMINIQUE : Mmm.
LARAGH : Um, but WayHaught and Wynonna Earp in general, they really strive to get it not just depicted, but depicted right, um
DOMINIQUE : Mmm.
LARAGH : ...and is that the, I guess, the idea of the accuracy and the importance of the representation? Is that something that informs your acting choices when you play Waverly?
DOMINIQUE : Does it...I wouldn’t say that it necessarily informs my acting choices, but it certainly just so reassuring that we’re on the same page, like, the creatives, the writers, and the actors are, all have this kind of goal together. So, I know that if I ever doubt anything or if I don’t feel that a scene or something I say doesn’t quite align with the way I see it, I know that I can speak up about that and be supported, which is something that is, I think, very rare, and part of the reason why, ya know, um, the queer, queer representation is, ya know, the, the, that the community hasn’t nece...necessarily had the representation that they deserve because there isn’t this support team around it. Whereas our show, what they do so well, is they create this amazing platform to play safely, and respect, respectfully, ya know. Um, but yeah, so I don’t think it necessarily informs my acting choices, but it’s certainly a common goal, so it’s um, it’s always there. Does that make sense?
DARKWICCAN : Yeah, absolutely. One hundred percent.
DOMINIQUE : Yeah. I was thinking about this the other day. Sorry, talking of tangents. Are you ready for your first tangent? [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : [laughter] Go for it.
DOMINIQUE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Go for it.
DOMINIQUE : But, I was thinking about this the other day, um, about how representation in media is just changing, like, more and more rapidly at the moment, and that when you look back at the sorts of things that were on TV like in the nineties, or like when I was growing up, now when I look back at them, like when I was watching FRIENDS the other day, uh, and even like stuff in FRIENDS and everything, there’s stuff that’s really sexist and like little things that absolutely would not fly, um, today, do you know what I mean?
DARKWICCAN : Um, yeah.
DOMINIQUE : Yeah, and, but what is so important is, and what I love about Wynonna is being apart of a show that is pushing forward and aiming to, like, start the change and always be ahead of the game, if that makes sense.
DARKWICCAN : Yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. [laughter]
LARAGH : Completely.
DOMINIQUE : Yeah, because I’m sure that, like, in twenty years we’ll look back at some of the stuff that uh, is on TV now and, and, and be like, “oh, look how dated that seems, and look how far we’ve come since then.” I hope so, anyway. That’s what I’m desperately hoping that we all look back and go “ah”, but always being ahead of the game and pushing forward is just like the most important thing.
DARKWICCAN : Absolutely. Somebody’s gotta lay the groundwork.
DOMINIQUE : Yeah, exactly. And it’s Emily Andras. Woohoo.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : We are fans. [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : We are.
DELAYNE : Uh, it, I wanna go back to, to you playing Waverly, so, while Waverly herself has never identified under a specific label, other characters have given her a label, including her own mother, as a lesbian.
DOMINIQUE : Mmm.
DELAYNE : How do you think Waverly feels about this?
DOMINIQUE : Yeah. My answer to this question, um, has evolved and changed so much over the course of the three years. Which I think is kind of normal, I suppose, because likely that would be Wavelry’s experience with it all, too. Because it, it’s new to her, um, my, my view personally is that labels are just like an extremely constricting and that fuck labels. Sorry, not sure if...
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : [laughter]
DELAYNE : My wife agrees with you. She’s anti label, yeah.
DOMINIQUE : Ok, good. And just that, like, putting people into boxes is just so backwards and I like to think that Waverly feels the same as I do on that.
DARKWICCAN : Mmm.
DOMINIQUE : But, I would say she’s probably gone through many different, um, stages with identifying and I think that probably at the beginning she would have, like, really struggled with this notion of, like, having to, like, change her label, if you like, and I, because of Waverly’s beautiful mind, overactive brain, probably would have, like, tried to organize herself into a nice little category to make herself, kind of, have answers and feel better about it. But then, at the base of all that, and what really shines through, always with Waverly, is just like, love is love. And Waverly has the purest heart in the world, I think she just believes in love and that labels shouldn’t matter, and I think that would probably be underlying in all that because, even with Nicole, it wasn’t about girl or boy, I think it really was just Nicole.
DARKWICCAN : Mhmm.
DOMINIQUE : I think she just fell in love with Nicole and that obviously changed the course of her, of her future, um, but, I think if she had to identify and put a label on herself...I know this wasn’t really truly your question, and it was more about how other people, how she feels about other people labeling her, but I think it’s important to talk about this first, to kind of, um, which absolutely leads on to how Waverly feels about other people labeling her, I think.
DARKWICCAN : Mhmm, yeah, absolutely.
DOMINIQUE : Um, but it’s a complex one with her mum because I think that another big aspect of Waverly is how much she wants to feel accepted by the world around her, and especially by her mother who was such a huge part of her life and that she has always put, kind of, on a pedestal, and in some ways, and has been hoping and praying and imagining her relationship with her mother for so many years, so, when faced in that situation, even if she had feelings that were, that came up, that were negative about her whether her mum used a label or put her in a specific box, I think that in that moment, she wouldn’t have necessarily chosen to fight that battle because it’s extremely important for her to have a positive relationship with her mother, and, kind of, that could have like, “well, whatever, we’ll just let that one slide”, ya know, and not necessarily choose to bring up, like “actually, I identify this way”, ya know, in that moment. But, yeah, I think if she had, if she had maybe like, wanted to correct her, I think, I think more and more that Waverly, probably is settling into the idea that she would identify as bisexual.
DARKWICCAN : Yeah.
DOMINIQUE : Um, personally, I think that even though um, we haven’t seen, ya know, when, that, I don’t neces [unfinished word]...that maybe she wouldn’t put into like that label and box, I think that yeah, absolutely, I think Waverly did have crushes on boys when she was little. I do think she went through school. I mean, Champ is not the best example, obviously.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : [laughter] And, so, we’re just like “aagh, anti men, they’re horrible” because obviously he’s such a, like, bad representation of that, but at the same time, I do think she did have crushes and did feel things for, for boys and men as well, and I don’t think that necessarily, sorry, yeah, I think she would probably identify as bisexual, but it could always change and evolve, like everything in life.
DARKWICCAN : Absolutely.
DELAYNE : Good answer. [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : It’s fluid.
LARAGH : [laughter] Very good answer.
DOMINIQUE : Aww, thank you, I appreciate that.
DARKWICCAN : And, and I would say that, that the majority of fanfiction authors also agree that Waverly, if, IF she were to label herself, if she was held at...
DOMINIQUE : Yeah.
DARKWICCAN : ...some sort of point...
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ...and told, “you must choose”, she would...
DOMINIQUE : Yeah.
DARKWICCAN : ...fall into the kind of bisexual, um, spectrum.
DOMINIQUE : Yeah?
DARKWICCAN : So.
DOMINIQUE : Well, that’s interesting.
DARKWICCAN : Yeah. Oh?
DOMINIQUE : That we’re on the same page, that’s nice.
DARKWICCAN : Oh, well, fanfiction authors are just fascinated and obsessed with characterization and character choices.
DOMINIQUE : Mmm.
DARKWICCAN : Um, so many stories are inspired by moments where characters make choices that are surprising or in need of further discussion.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE :
DARKWICCAN : So...
DOMINIQUE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ...has Waverly ever reacted to a scenario in a way that surprised you or made you rethink or approach the way you understand her as a character?
DOMINIQUE : Mmm. This is a really good question. I don’t know that I’m gonna answer it in the way you were hoping. [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : [unintelligible]...right thing. [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : The one thing... [laughter] I’m, like, also really wanna ask you guys that same question because I find it really interesting hearing different things, but we can talk about that afterwards. Um, but one thing that reacted, that, um, surprised me was actually, um, in regards to Dolls’ death. Um, yeah, which I think, it was a really interesting one when I read the episode. Um, after Dolls’ death because it was, oh, I just thought it was so, firstly, so well done and so well dealt with on the show, um, but the inappropriate laughter that Waverly had during that episode and that sort of, like, I mean, I say inappropriate, but you know what I mean.
DARKWICCAN : Yeah.
DOMINIQUE : I mean it was appropriate because that’s how she was dealing and that’s ok, and you have to forgive her for that, but obviously it was probably um, surprised her as well, but when I was playing, I actually found that really difficult because that isn’t how I would react, and um, lots of things, a lot of the character choices, not character choices, but the characteristics of Waverly, like, sometimes they cross over into myself, which um, often makes a lot of sense, but with that one I felt particularly, like, “oh god, I have no idea how I’m gonna play this because I just wouldn’t react like that and I haven’t had much experience with that.” But what was really interesting, is that once it came out and after that episode, quite a few fans contacted me, um, and mentioned that it was really helpful for them to see Waves react like that to shock, um, because they saw themselves represented in that way and it was really helpful to see that, which was cool. So, so that was something that I was really, like, surprised about, but not, but that doesn’t, it didn’t like completely alter my opinion of Waverly.
DARKWICCAN : Right. [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : [laughter] It was just, like, an interesting thing.
DELAYNE : Now that you mention it, um, my, my hashtag is embrace the giggle and I do...
DARKWICCAN : Aww.
DELAYNE : ...nervous, awkward giggling a lot. So...
LARAGH : Yeah.
DELAYNE : ... actually identify with...
LARAGH : Me too.
DELAYNE : ...that.
DOMINIQUE : Yeah. Cool. Well, I nervous giggle all the time. Don’t get me wrong.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : In, I, I, maybe I haven’t had a huge, like, really, really, like, intense situations like that, maybe I haven’t had enough to tell, and, touch wood, I won’t have anything too dramatic, but at the same time, in that situation I don’t know that I would laugh. Do you think you would laugh in that situation? Like, it would have come out like that?
DARKWICCAN : Ya know, yeah.
DOMINIQUE : Yeah. [unintelligible]
DELAYNE : [laughter] It’s definitely possible.
DARKWICCAN : It’s absolutely possible.
DELAYNE : At least for me.
DARKWICCAN : Yeah, and, and um, sometimes ya know, emotion comes out in the most bizarre, unexpected ways, and...
DOMINIQUE : Yeah.
DARKWICCAN : ...and so, yeah, I think that laughter is completely valid [laughter] um...
DOMINIQUE : Mmm.
DARKWICCAN : ...and I honestly when, in watching the episode, when I thought afterwards, is that there’s this very famous Mary Tyler Moore episode uh, called “Chuckles the Clown” when Chuckles the Clown has died suddenly, and in a rather very comical way, and everyone is joking about it except for Mary. She’s taking it very seriously. Ya know, “a man has died, we should not be laughing at his expense.” And we finally get to the funeral and she absolutely loses it and starts laughing insanely at the funeral...
DOMINIQUE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ...because she’s held everything in for so long, and...
DOMINIQUE : Yeah, mhmm.
DARKWICCAN : ...so finally she’s faced with this kind of, the absurdity of death in general and she just loses it. And I’m like, ya know what, completely valid.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Yeah.
DOMINIQUE : Fair.
DARKWICCAN : Death is stupid.
DOMINIQUE : No, no, that’s fair, really.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : [laughter]
DELAYNE : Giggle break. [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Embrace the giggle! [laughter] I love it.
LARAGH : So, um, speaking of Waverly and her possible flaws, the fandom tends to see her as an angel, in terms of her being a figure of perfection, but as we just discussed, she is very human...
DOMINIQUE : Mmm.
LARAGH : ...foibles and all, so, how do you deal with this kind of angelic label that’s been placed on both you and the character?
DOMINIQUE : Mmm. Thank you, firstly.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Oh, god, it’s weird, isn’t it? How can you say that about yourself?
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : It’s madness. Um, [laughter] um, to be honest with you, I, I, everytime I get a question about this on panels and stuff, often it’s with Emily, like “how do you feel about this?” And I always just freeze up and I’m like “aagh what do I say? Ha. Ha. [high pitched voice]” And then say something ridiculous.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : And go, “oh bloody hell. Why did I say that?”
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : And that’s kind of how it tends to go, um, but I was thinking about this the other day, and ya know what, it’s like, Waverly’s flaws and imperfections are absolutely part of the reason why she’s an angel. Um, and I think it, like, it brings a new definition of angel. Like, an updated definition of angel, which is we are all, every single person on this planet, is complex and has layers and has things that they are struggling with. Every single person, I truly believe, um, yeah, so it kind of redefines the idea of an angel, which is embracing those flaws and even, in spite of all of those things, absolutely she’s still an angel. And I think what makes her an angel is because of her intentions to always do right, and it’s, that is what I realized, it’s that actually, what an angel is, is somebody that is constantly trying to do the right thing, and attempting to do good and put good into the world, in whatever way that is. Whether it’s just walking down the road and trying to make someone smile, or it’s uh, supporting her loved ones around her as if their lives were her own. Ya know, whatever it is, like, that’s what makes her an angel. Is that she’s constantly, every day wakes up and decides to be the good in the world and believes in good and shines brighter than, ya know, anyone, and tries to do that as much as possible. So, I think that actually, Waverly totally, rightly so, deserves her label as an angel. Um, and if that extends to me, well, oh my god, it’s just, I’m just, ridiculously flattered that anyone would even suggest that I was, um, that I should go under that label. I don’t know. [uncomfortable mouth sounds]
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : So weird. Um, I think, but what it has done and what I really, the focus of this should be is that it has definitely helped me to learn to be less, like, harsh and judgemental on my own imperfections, and the things about myself that I struggle with, and that, ya know, daily, that I struggle with. It has helped me to realize that actually, despite all those things, as long as that your intentions are, um, good and that you are doing your best, then that’s all anyone can really ask of you.
DARKWICCAN : Yeah, absolutely. [laughter] I, I, that is one thousand percent fact.
DELAYNE : It sounds like you described yourself though...
DOMINIQUE : Aww, thanks.
DELAYNE : ...in trying to do good and make the world a better place. So, the angelic label seems to fit you just fine. [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Aww, I didn’t, I didn’t mean to. I didn’t mean to be like “oh, I’m just talking about myself.” I was truly, truly talking about Waves, I promise.
DARKWICCAN : No, no, no.
DOMINIQUE : But, maybe, it’s good though, isn’t it. ‘Cause it means I’m inspired by her and isn’t that just the most amazing thing in the world? I got offered this role that took me across the world and started a new life, and then made me realize that actually, this is the way that I should be living my life. Isn’t that effing beautiful.
DARKWICCAN : It’s incredible.
LARAGH : Entirely, yeah.
DARKWICCAN : It’s incredible is what it is. It’s amazingly awesome.
DOMINIQUE : Yeah. [laughter] It’s magic. If there’s such a thing as magic, which I’m sure there is, um, then...
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : ...that’s it, isn’t it?
DARKWICCAN : It couldn’t have happened to a better person, honestly.
LARAGH : Yeah.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Aww. Guys. [laughter] You have me giggling, you have me crying. It’s a whole thing.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : Umm...
LARAGH : [laughter]
DELAYNE : ...well, speaking of Waverly, uh, inspiring, I have a tattoo on my arm. It says, “I am here and I stay and I love them back.”
DOMINIQUE : Aww.
DELAYNE : So, the Jolene episode...
DOMINIQUE : [sigh]
DELAYNE : ...definitely affected me. Um, and, and it implies that Waverly has been followed by mental illness since birth, so, is this how you interpret it and what do you think about how the show deals with some of Waverly’s more internal emotions, like the neglect and abandonment, etcetera?
DOMINIQUE : Mmm. Mmm. Um, a subject that is very close to my heart, I would firstly say. Um, yes, ok, so, to be completely honest, um, about my experience leading up to the Jolene episode, the filming of it, everything. It was like, so intense. It was so intense and yet, I hadn’t actually, um, seen the episode as, like, a showcase of mental health. Like, I hadn’t seen that that’s what they were trying to do in the way that they were trying, so clearly, to at that point. I was so deep into the world of Wynonna Earp , and when you’re filming, you just go with it. You just literally accept anything that’s being thrown at you, in our fantastical world. So, you really enter into the fact, like, this is my reality. There are demons, there is shit going down and, and, so yeah, so I was in that world, and um, and I took it as a literal demon. That Jolene was a literal demon, um, but the thing that’s so interesting, is that I felt so incredibly connected to the storyline and when I was looking at it and I was reading it, I thought to myself, “ok, well, all I need to do is listen to that voice [laughter] in my head”, um, and so I had made that comparison regardless that that voice in my head that I linked as my Jolene, and that actually I just needed to, for a little bit, let her win, that voice in my head that tells me that I’m not good enough, that tells me, ya know, whatever, I will not divulge too much, but that voice had to, had to get stronger, rather than um, all the rest of my life I’m trying to diminish that voice, but kind of let her live there. So, it’s so interesting that I had already made that comparison and was working in that way, um, during the episode, but it wasn’t until afterwards, when I saw it back, and I started seeing all the comments, comments, like, relating back to depression and anxiety and everything, that I realized how clear it was. And it was so powerful watching it back because, firstly, it’s just like, I find it extremely difficult to watch back anyway, but it, like, completely helped me with, um, accepting my own struggles with mental health, in doing that. And I feel so eternally grateful for that episode because, of course, when you think about it, if I’m talking about the own voice in my head, and making all of those links, and, and diving into that, then of course that is showing me that I absolutely struggle with mental health in my own way, and that I think so many people do, and I think that the thing that is so incredible about it, sorry, I am just yabbering on at the moment. I’m just, like, off on my own, you guys are so quiet.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter] I might be crying a little, so you’re ok.
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Bless your hearts. Yeah. [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Yeah, we’re silent with rapt attention. Please continue.
DOMINIQUE : Ok, ok. Um, but yeah, like, I just think what has been the most um, incredible thing is seeing how many people were touched by that episode, and how many people have...
DELAYNE : Mhmm.
DOMINIQUE : ”I’m here and I stay” tattooed somewhere on their body, and how many people come and talk to me and make a special effort to come and thank me for that episode, or to talk about their own struggles and how it informed and helped them, and so, it has been just the most eye opening thing for me on my own personal journey with mental health, with understanding who I am. It’s been a huge, huge stepping stone on my own personal journey, so it’s really quite remarkable and it makes you realize how much we need to be talking about these subjects and putting them into media, if that’s the way that we’re gonna be able to communicate them most easily. So incredible. And, in answer to your second part of the question, which is how do I think the show deals with Waves neglect and all of that, um, I love the fact that the show doesn’t make her, like, neglect and abandonment define her.
DARKWICCAN : Oh, yeah.
DOMINIQUE : If you know what I mean. Um, the, the, from the outside you wouldn’t necessarily think or expect that Waverly has got um, so many issues, uh, and I’d say issues, that’s the wrong word, but struggles with, with things, like, in her head, and um, from the inside, but I love that it doesn’t define her and that she can still be brave and strong and beautiful despite all of that and if anything, I think it just strengthens her. Rather than makes her weaker, ya know.
DARKWICCAN : Oh, yeah. A thousand percent. I think that’s something that we all absolutely adore.
DOMINIQUE : Mmm.
DARKWICCAN : Not only the character, but also the writing of the character.
LARAGH : Yep.
DARKWICCAN : How, Emily and the team handle, all the characters on the show, they all have their own struggles and foibles...
DOMINIQUE : Mhmm.
DARKWICCAN : ...and flaws and, um, also...
DOMINIQUE : Exactly.
DARKWICCAN : ...amazing character traits, uh, and none of them singularly define the character. The character is this person who is a whole complete, complex person...
DOMINIQUE : Yeah.
DARKWICCAN : ...made up of many things and that is just so unique, I think.
DOMINIQUE : Exactly.
DARKWICCAN : To the writing of the show.
DOMINIQUE : And it never makes you like them any less.
DARKWICCAN : Exactly.
DOMINIQUE : You know what I mean? It never, ever, ever makes you think “ugh, god, ok, well, this is something now that ” If anything, it makes you love them more. Which is just the way that we should be addressing all those things anyway. To show people that it isn’t, that it doesn’t make you a bad person, ya know. Like, we’re all, we all have our shit, and we’re all just doing our best.
DARKWICCAN : Absolutely. I think it always comes down to the choices you make.
DOMINIQUE : Yeah, exactly. Going back to [unintelligible].
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : I just love it.
DARKWICCAN : Try to bring it back around. Oh, yeah. [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : I love it. Oh, yeah. Linkin’ it back in. [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter] Just a little bit.
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : So, so, um, going from this kind of very deep, deep character dive with, uh, with Jolene, I’m gonna, I’m gonna kind of bring it up to a lighter...
DOMINIQUE : Oh, hello? Hello? Hello? Hello. I, I accidentally went out and then I went in again. Are you here?
DARKWICCAN : Can you hear us?
DOMINIQUE : Yes, sorry.
DARKWICCAN : Alright, alright. [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : I really, I wanna just tell you how ridiculously stupid what I just did was.
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : I just, like, closed by laptop.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : The equivalent of a mic drop.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : [laughter] The thing that was funny, is that I turned my brightness down on my laptop. Like, I turned my brightness all the way down to, so that I didn’t necessarily have a screen to distract me, if you know what I mean.
DARKWICCAN : Right.
DOMINIQUE : I was just like, “I’ll just close this, like, what am I doing with this open.”
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : And I have these, these amazing new stickers on my laptop, so I, like, really wanted to see my stickers, so I was like “I’m just gonna close this.” Anyway, ridiculous. Dominique Provost Chalkley, like, you’re in the middle of an interview, maybe don’t close...
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter] Oh my god.
DOMINIQUE : ...don’t close your laptop.
DARKWICCAN : Oh. That’s fantastic. [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Right. [laughter] Aye, yai, yai.
DARKWICCAN : Ok, so...
DELAYNE : [laughter] I’ll just back up out of that. [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : [laughter] Let’s back up.
DOMINIQUE : Were you saying something really important?
DARKWICCAN : No, not really, no, no. I was just saying that we’ve kind of done this, this deep, complex dive into Waverly with the Jolene episode...
DOMINIQUE : Mmm.
DARKWICCAN : ...and discussion, I’m gonna bring it back up a little bit, um, to something a little more superficial. Uh...
DOMINIQUE : Ok.
DARKWICCAN : ...so we actually had Kat here on the show, last year, and uh, we spoke about Nicole’s clothing as a means of expressing her character because this is actually something that is really huge in the queer community. Um, how do you know someone’s queer? It’s generally, you’re looking for physical cues. And one of the major physical cues...
DOMINIQUE : Interesting.
DARKWICCAN : ...that we use is wardrobe and how we dress and how we do our hair and things like that. So...
DOMINIQUE : Mmm. How we choose to present ourselves to the world.
DARKWICCAN : Exactly. Exactly. How do we signal to other queer folks...
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ...that we’re safe.
DOMINIQUE : That’s amazing.
DARKWICCAN : Yeah.
DOMINIQUE : Yeah.
DARKWICCAN : Um, and one thing we talked about with Kat is having gone to so many conventions, in queer positive conventions at this point having seen so many folks who identify as queer or L G B T, how does that inform wardrobe?
DOMINIQUE : Mmm.
DARKWICCAN : Ya know, and, uh, specifically, we talked about Nicole’s wardrobe being a little bit, kinda what we would call, and I do mean a little bit, what we would call soft butch.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Now, Waverly...
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Interesting.
DARKWICCAN : ...has a very unique wardrobe. Uh, and it’s...
DOMINIQUE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ...something that fanfic writers
DOMINIQUE : Less soft butch, yeah.
DARKWICCAN : ...yeah, we’ve picked up on it, and we love it. So, what do you think Waverly’s...
DOMINIQUE : Interesting.
DARKWICCAN : ...wardrobe says about her?
DOMINIQUE : Ooh, good question. Um, firstly...
DARKWICCAN : Mhmm.
DOMINIQUE : ...what would you call Waverly’s wardrobe, if you would say that Nicole is soft butch...
LARAGH : Femme. High femme. [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : ...is there, like, a term?
DELAYNE : General femme.
DARKWICCAN : Femme. Just femme. I think femme, yeah.
DOMINIQUE : Femme?
DARKWICCAN : Yeah.
DOMINIQUE : High femme. General femme. Ok, cool. I love it. [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Um, I think that um, Waverly has always presented herself to the world um, and that when you look back at season one wardrobe, the joys of season one wardrobe.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Which were, she’s, was, like, dressed a lot more, kind of, like, sexy cute. Um, and she still does definitely dress in that way, but I think that uh, she absolutely knows how to work it. Like, she is, she knows exactly what works on her body, and that she has probably dressed in that way for many years because, and to be completely honest, probably in all, she probably likes the fact that she has had attention, I would say.
DARKWICCAN : Hmm.
DOMINIQUE : Um, yeah, I know, that’s probably an interesting response, isn’t it. Probably not what you were expecting, but I think that, like, the way you dress and the way, the stuff that you put on absolutely is a big decision, and by dressing, like, quite provocative, not provocatively...
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : ...but kind of. Like, she was pretty damn sexy in those little Shorty’s shorts, like, you need some serious guts, don’t you, like
DARKWICCAN : We agree. [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : ...you need some serious guts to, like, work that shit. I was like, when I put, when I put it on, and, like, [laughter], I was like, “oh fuckin’ hell. Fantastic. Fantastic.” Ya know, but what is interesting, is that when you wear clothes like that, um, you get attention. Like, you get people lookin’ at ya ‘cause there’s flesh on show, do you know what I mean. There’s absolutely, their eyes definitely go places, or like
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : ...even unintentionally, you know. Um, I’m sure unintentionally, like, I don’t like to think anyone was purposefully looking, but when you do wear a wardrobe like that, you do get, you do, yeah, how, you just pull more attention, and I think, I’m, one of the ways that you can reason that, is that, perhaps where she wasn’t getting the attention at home and in her life, it was a way to kind of build her confidence and it’s absolutely not a positive way to do that because it’s from the exterior, but at the same time there is like, ya know, you definitely, definitely making a statement. But what I love is that over the three years, the cost...the costumes have changed and matured in such a beautiful way, that now it’s like this great balance between the fact that I think, like, Waverly is a big girl, like she’s a girly girl, ya know. She loves pink, and she loves things that make her a girl, and she loves magic and princesses and unicorns and all of that gorgeous stuff. Um, she loves losing herself in being a girl, um...
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : ...and I think it’s definitely reflected in her wardrobe.
DARKWICCAN : Yeah. [laughter] I, I, and, and you know what, you’re absolutely right. It does take a certain personality to be comfortable wearing some of the outfits, especially in season two, I think, that, that Waverly...
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Yeah.
DARKWICCAN : ...pulled off quite successfully...
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : Yeah. [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : I mean, woah, woah, woah, woah. We did have a demon inside her that was making a lot of her decisions in season two, so, like...
DARKWICCAN : Ok, fair. Ok, fair.
DOMINIQUE : Just putting it out there. Like
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : ...she was way more daring in season two because of the demon.
DARKWICCAN : Absolutely. Absolutely fair. A hundred percent. [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Yeah. [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Ok, so transitioning away from, from Wynonna Earp for just a moment, I would love to chat with you about Start the Wave.
DOMINIQUE : Aww.
DARKWICCAN : Um, you’ve recently stated that you’ve kind of been reevaluating your mission in relation to...
DOMINIQUE : [sigh]
DARKWICCAN : ...Start the Wave, and um, I’m curious, has this evolution started to crystalize into a clear image for you, and if so, um, what direction do you feel it’s heading in?
DOMINIQUE : [sigh] This is a good question, and it’s, you’ve really caught me in an interesting time with Start the Wave. Like I, like you absolutely rightly said, I definitely have been eval...reevaluating uh, what my intentions are with Start the Wave and what I hope and wish it to become. Um, I think if we go back to Dom that started Start the Wave, I think I’ve always just had this real sense of wanting to do something good in the world and make positive change in whatever way I can, and then when I got Wynonna , and then I got this amazing following that came with it, I felt like this intense, kind of, responsibility to um, use my voice for good and felt like I, I just had this kind of, ya know, it manifests itself in like, quite a lot of anxiety I would say, to be like, “ok, I need to do something now because, like, there’s so many people that are listening and we could do so many great things” and I had, like, all of this, kind of, young energy that just wanted to burst out of me. And so I started Start the Wave, um, because I just knew that I had to start something, uh, but probably, when we look back, didn’t really know what that was gonna look like, and what I really wanted to talk about, and certainly didn’t have enough confidence in myself to know what I, Dominique Provost Chalkley, could...I don’t know why I just said my name, like a wanker...
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : ...that was weird. [laughter] Like I would be talking about someone else. No. But, I mean, but no, no, that’s good. But, me, how, or what I brought to the table and what conversation I could put forward, uh, and what that would look like. Um, but in, so what, so what I did, I just kind of stepped away from it for a bit. I went traveling, I went soul searching, um, and I let myself completely dive into the unknown and I hitchhiked all over Brazil, and I met some incredible people that taught me some of the most valuable lessons, and I just made it my entire, my mission to figure out, at my core, what I really truly believe, and, like, what it is that I, I, care about, um, in, like, in my authentic self, in my authentic being, in my soul, um, and so, but in doing that, in doing all that work, and going inwards and focusing on tools that will help me get to my place, I think I found the answer in doing it, which was a big old surprise, but a beautiful one. Which is that the work that I did with meditation and following on more of a spiritual journey, I would say, um, unlocked so many doors and has brought me such a sense of light and um, yeah, my, my, the evolution of the self has just helped me strengthen who I am and find out what I care about and all of that. So, in turn, I’m not gonna say too specifically, if that’s ok, because, at the moment, it is changing and forming, uh, but I definitely know that the direction I wanna take Start the Wave in, is a much more personal one because before I was talking about subjects that, to be completely frank, I care about profoundly, like I care about profoundly changing the world, I care about veganism, I care about all of these subjects, but they are other people’s subjects, if that makes sense. It’s things that I am being a voice and transmitting a message, which I still will do for things that I care about, absolutely. But, it’s been about finding what personally you can bring to the table, and what that is, is that if I can inspire and empower other people to do the same, and to use, if I had known that there were these tools and this new way of thinking and that, that inspired that change to come, and strengthened who you were, and made you realize truly what you believe in, if I had known that, then, ugh, it would have been a hell of a lot easier. So, I think that, what it really comes down to, is being able to help other people, and in turn inspire myself further to continue living and thinking in new ways that will push everything forward in the right direction. Does that make any sense?
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : It does. Sorry, we go quiet because we’re just so...
LARAGH : In awe.
DARKWICCAN : In awe of what you’re saying.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Uh.
LARAGH : Yeah.
DELAYNE : It makes a lot of sense, it actually does. Um, because I, another thing that people tend to hear is “Hi, I’m a botanist.” Uh, so I have studied ecology and plants and the world...
DOMINIQUE : Cool.
DELAYNE : So, I adore that you’re doing this, and I agree, people aren’t going to, people are going to connect to something that they connect with, and they’re not gonna know that until they do their own personal journey, I guess.
DOMINIQUE : Exactly. Exactly. And, I think that in today’s world, it’s like so effin confusing because you are being thrown a million things in front of your face, like, all the time, that are built on, like, consumerism and big business telling you that you need to be this or do that or think a certain way, and it’s, like, creating separation and individuality and all of the things that are completely the wrong idea, [laughter] the wrong way of doing it, and what we need to do is bring it together and find community and understanding each other and be, like, open, and talk about it, and I think that I’m, I’m sure that, it can’t just be me, it can’t just be me, in this world that has struggled with finding their way, like, it can’t just be me, so I’m hoping that there, even if it’s just, like, one other person out there that finds it useful to kind of share that struggle and share that um, and I will call it a struggle because it’s going to be extremely positive ya know, to, to empower people to find what really matters, so yeah, it’s definitely something that I’m so passionate about and I think that um, I hope that other people will feel the same.
DARKWICCAN : I think it’s safe to say that other people definitely will.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : In fact, I believe that many, many, many people will, and we’re already...
DOMINIQUE : Aww.
DARKWICCAN : ...already so inspired by you, Dominique, um, I think...
DOMINIQUE : Aww, bless your heart.
DARKWICCAN : ...it’s safe to say that we’re definitely gonna follow where you lead or, or go in the direction that you point, um, because...
DOMINIQUE : That’s sweet.
DARKWICCAN : ...you’re very wise. You’re very wise.
DELAYNE : I mean, I have my Start the Wave sticker on my water bottle and I’m wearing my Earp Your Community...
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Gosh.
DELAYNE : ...t shirt right now. I’m repping that, so.
DOMINIQUE : You are just rocking life.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Seriously, I’ve got, I’ve got a t shirt that says there’s no planet B on at the moment.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : I’ve, I’ve also realized, like, how, talking, going back to, I mean, we’re going back to clothes now, guys, so that was totally not where...
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Bringing it back around, um, but I’m also realizing how important it is, like, you say, to dress in alignment with how, with who you are, which is kind of late at twenty eight or twenty. I’m twenty nine now aren’t I? Am I twenty nine? Yeah, I’m twenty nine.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : I think I’m twenty nine now. Oh, bloody hell. Um, but like, yeah, dressing in alignment with who you are truly in your soul and have, like, realized that for many, many years I wasn’t doing that. So, now I rock, I, basically my wardrobe consists of this, t shirts that people have given me at conventions and yesterday I was wearing my cultivate kindness...
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : ...just rocking it and just big smiles down the road, and I just feel, like, unstoppable. It’s wicked.
DARKWICCAN : Uh, I have to say, of course, Dominique, you were positively gorgeous at the C S As, uh, your wardrobe was perfect, you were truly an angel in heels, uh, but seeing you at the Avengers premiere in your sneakers
DOMINIQUE : Mmm.
DARKWICCAN : ...was the greatest thing ever.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : It’s like, there’s Dom. There’s Dom. We see her.
DOMINIQUE : Yeah. [laughter] Thanks for bringing that up.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : I’m not calling you out.
DOMINIQUE : No, yeah, oh, you guys. What a journey I have been on since I’ve been back here. Um, so, if you can just imagine, five months of traveling. Was it five months? I think it was five months.
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Although time became irrelevant because there really is no such thing as time. Uh, but [laughter], it’s true. So, but, like living in such a different way where it was just learning about, oh god, all sorts of things, but learning how to truly live in the moment, and basically implement all of the things I had learned in meditation into everyday life and seeing what that looked like practically, and then coming back and I went straight to Seattle and then I had uh, the C S As which to be honest with you, if I, if I, if I wouldn’t...
DARKWICCAN : Yeah.
DOMINIQUE : ...are we ok for time? Am I just chatting...
DARKWICCAN : You’re fine.
DOMINIQUE : ...are we good? Like...
DELAYNE : I got all day. [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : We’re just chillin’? You haven’t got, like, a lunch thing...
DARKWICCAN : Nope.
DOMINIQUE : ...with someone else? No? No, ok. Mmm. But, yeah, I think it was, oh god, I’ve had so many lessons, um, since I’ve come back, and it’s quite overwhelming really. Ya know, it’s just like not, it’s just, like, massive extremes, ya know. Going from one thing to something entirely different, but I’ve had so many really valuable lessons and one of them is, absolutely that you should be in stuff that you feel comfortable in, and when you truly feel like yourself, then um, you radiate the light that I’m so desperately trying to put out into the world, and I, I, I was a fairy princess and I love the fact that, um, that I had the opportunity to do that, but I now know that I probably won’t do that again, necessarily because the funniest thing about it is, I was in the amazon, just like chillin’ around the amazon and I got a text message from beautiful Kat Barrell, being like “hey Dom, I’m getting these dresses, like, do you want to get in on it?” And I was like, she is just the kindest soul in the whole wide world, to a) think about what I would wanna wear, like, how sweet of her to think, “I’m gonna sort this out for her.” And, she did so much work in ordering the dresses and whatever. Um, and then, it was out of two dresses, and she, and I was in my Seattle, um, hotel room, and one of them was completely rhinestoned.
DARKWICCAN : Oh my god.
DOMINIQUE : The whole dress. Super tight, super tight, like, sexy kind of Marilyn Monroe y kinda job y, and I literally put it on. I felt, literally amazing, I’m not gonna lie. I was like [mimicking beat music] I felt like I was out of the seventies, like, [mimicking beat music] a glitter ball walking, and it was wicked.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : But, it was so uncomfortable, that I was like “this is just not gonna work. This is gonna be a disaster of an evening, like, how am I supposed to sit down on, like, a thousand rhinestones? I was like no.” And then funnily enough, because that’s one that I’d seen on the internet, sorry
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : I’m telling this story, like, really badly
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : ...but just, like, roll with it. Um, so, she like sent me a bunch of dresses that, that, that, from their website, and was like “you can choose.” So, I was like “ah, I’m gonna choose blah blah blah.” And she brought me three dresses, and one of them was one that I hadn’t chosen, that her designer was really, really, really um, adamant that she wanted me to wear it, she was like, “she really, really should.” And it was the dress I ended up wearing.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Oh.
DOMINIQUE : I know, which is really surprising, ‘cause I chose two different ones, and I was like, Kat literally handed me the dress, and was like “look, I know you’re not gonna wear this one, I know this is not what you’re gonna choose, but like, she just really wanted me to bring it” and I’m really glad she did because I put it on and like I said, my inner four year old...
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : ...was like “oh my god, I’m a fairy princess [sing song voice]”, and so I was like, and a big, big part of it is it was way more comfortable...
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : ...than the other one, that was a huge deciding factor. I was like “I’m just gonna float around like a fairy princess, and it’ll be fine.” What I hadn’t taken into consideration is that when you’re dressed like a fairy princess, lots of people look at you, and I, that definitely was, I think I’m realizing more and more that, like, I don’t want to be um, separate in any way from the rest of the world, like, I don’t wanna be seen as um, like, ya know, put on a pedestal or anything like that, and so as much as it was beautiful for a night to just dress up as a fairy princess and absolutely go with that...
DARKWICCAN : Mhmm.
DOMINIQUE : ...I think rockin’ in my sneakers is just the way to go. It’s so much more comfortable you guys.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : And I just feel like you can boogie any time you want and just like, yeah, very, very important lessons, definitely.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Yeah, like I said, it was, it was delightful seeing you at the, at the Avengers premiere and just...
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : Yeah.
DARKWICCAN : ...bein’ Dom.
DOMINIQUE : Cool.
DARKWICCAN : That was just so wonderful. Seeing Dominique as Dominique.
DOMINIQUE : Yeah.
DARKWICCAN : ‘Cause Dominique is just, yes. It’s so affirming for us...
DOMINIQUE : I love that. Thank you so much for telling me that because that’s how I felt inside but I didn’t know if it, like, transmitted or anything, so that is just bloody brilliant. And I did my own make up at home, just, like, five minutes before I left, I was just chillin’, did a little bit of make up and I realized that is going to be my journey in all of this. But, like, understandably you have to work these things out, right, like every time you’re faced in a new situation, you just do your best, right. And you just try and make the most of the situation and learn from it and, and, yeah, and evolve. So, that’s bloody awesome. And the coolest thing about the Avengers premiere is that I walked up the stairs and as I was walking past, there were some Earpers that just happened to be at the theater, that were going to watch another movie...
DARKWICCAN : Oh my gosh.
DOMINIQUE : And they were like “oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, Dom!” And I was like literally, like, walking past like “this is gonna be a good day.”
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : I was, like, super nervous and then like, “[sigh] there’s Earpers in the space, we got this, like, this is fine. My family are here. “
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : So I like gave them a big hug or whatever and then um, and yeah, and so that also absolutely helped.
DARKWICCAN : Well you lift us up, and we lift you up. It’s a mutual relationship.
DOMINIQUE : Yeah, right?!
DARKWICCAN : Um, and, and speaking of Earpers and everything going on right now, obviously we’re still deep in the fight for Wynonna , um...
DOMINIQUE : Mmm.
DARKWICCAN : ...we don’t really know, I feel like things are going in a really good direction, especially based on some information that came out this past week, uh, and my hope is, actually, is that by the time this episode airs of this podcast, everything will be resolved. Um...
DOMINIQUE : Mhmm.
DARKWICCAN : ...because it is gonna be a little bit. We tend to record fairly far out in advance. [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Oh, cool. Interesting.
DARKWICCAN : So, yeah. [laughter] Uh, so, I’m just curious if you have any words of encouragement that you wanna share as we continue to push so hard to get our shit show back on the air?
DOMINIQUE : Mmm. Yeah, it’s such a hard one isn’t it. Fuck. Um, what I would say...can you, firstly, hear the gongs that have come in the background?
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Just, like, the church next door is like going for it, I do not know what is happening, but I’m into it. It’s just like “don’t worry, everything is gonna be ok [sing song voice]”.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : It’s just like gonging away.
DARKWICCAN : We’ve got celestial support.
DOMINIQUE : Exactly. [laughter] Um, here’s the thing. What I would say is when I was in Brazil, I learned what it means to have faith. Um, having faith in the universe has always been something that I found quite difficult and I. and I wasn’t necessarily inclined to think in that sort of way. Um, and it is really hard to believe that things are gonna work out, like, it’s the hardest thing in the world to stay positive when things come up and hit you in the face and you don’t know how to deal with it, but what I do believe in truly, is I believe that like, good, good, always wins. And, like, heroes always win. [laughter] In the end, ya know. So, whatever happens, um, I think that, I think there’s just too much good and positivity that has come out of this movement to not be seen and for that to not um, for it to not come to fruition. Do you know what I mean? I personally, truly believe that in all of my bones that this is not the end. It’s not the end. [laughter] Not that I know anything, but that’s what I’m choosing to believe in, ya know, and I think that’s what we need to do until we’re told otherwise. Um, just keep believing in good and keep pushing that positivity out there so that it gets seen and heard by the universe and I truly think it will. So, I hope that when this is released, it will be very different and that everyone will be like “aagh, we got this. It’s all good.”
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Because, ya know, we’ll just be, like, laughing about it and be like “oh my god, Dom was psychic.”
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : I’m kidding. [laughter] Yeah.
DARKWICCAN : Well, I think that we all genuinely, truly believe that it’s all gonna work out. It’s all gonna be fine.
DOMINIQUE : Yeah.
DARKWICCAN : Uh, and this is just one of the, ya know, many obstacles that life likes to throw up that we just have to work...
DOMINIQUE : Mmm.
DARKWICCAN : through, over and past, and we’re gonna be...
DOMINIQUE : Exactly.
DARKWICCAN : ...yeah.
DOMINIQUE : And actually, sorry, totally just cut you off there.
DARKWICCAN : No, no, go ahead.
DOMINIQUE : But, what has come from this situation is so positive.
DARKWICCAN : Oh, yeah.
DOMINIQUE : Like, whatever, whichever way you slice it, I honestly think this is the way it was supposed to go because the amount of uh, the way that the fanbase has strengthened because of this is just unbelievable, and like, when I tell people that this is happening. Like, sometimes my friends call me up and they’re like “is there like a world movement going on for Wynonna ” and...
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : ...I’m like “yeah, there is”, like, absolutely and we need to take a second to see that as such a positive thing and see it as like, I’m really grateful in many ways as weird as that sounds because it has shown me what it really looks like to fight for what you love.
DARKWICCAN : Mhmm.
DOMINIQUE : And the fact that the Earpers have had the strength to come together and do that is just the most inspiring thing in the world, so I think we need to look at it in that way and know that you can’t put that much love into something and for it to not be heard, so yeah, all of my fingers and toes and all of the things crossed. Always.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Excellent. And I can say that all the Earpers are doing the exact same thing, while also continuing to be very
DOMINIQUE : Mmm.
DARKWICCAN : ...vocal on any social media outlet that we can find.
DOMINIQUE : Yeah.
DARKWICCAN : So, like I said, it’s gonna be, it’s gonna be good, it’s gonna work out, and yeah, I think that
DOMINIQUE : [sigh] Yeah.
DARKWICCAN : ...I would be hard pressed to think that any Earper would disagree that the situation hasn’t actually been incredibly positive because we have proven
DOMINIQUE : Mmm.
DARKWICCAN : ...that we can move mountains as a community.
DOMINIQUE : Exactly, exactly.
DARKWICCAN : And that’s awesome.
DOMINIQUE : The power of community, man.
DARKWICCAN : Yeah.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : It’s gonna change the world, you guys.
DARKWICCAN : And I am so remiss, I apologize profusely, Dominique, because I have yet to congratulate on your award.
DOMINIQUE : Aww, you silly, you have, just in, just in our conversations. Of course. Thank you. Thank you. That is so kind.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : I know, I know. It’s mad, isn’t it. It’s like completely mind boggling.
DARKWICCAN : But, so deserved. So deserved. Dominique, your acting in, I mean, through the entire series, but I think in season three you just hit a stride that was...
DOMINIQUE : Mmm.
DARKWICCAN : ...immense and incredible and so beautiful to watch and be a part of as a fan watching the show and I think that uh, for me, um, Jolene, the...
DOMINIQUE : Mhmm.
DARKWICCAN : ...episode Jolene just, is like, ok, can we get her an Emmy? Like, how do we...
DOMINIQUE : Aww, you guys are too nice.
DARKWICCAN : So, so, yeah. Absolutely a thousand percent deserve. Worth the many, many hours of voting that we spent doing. [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : [laughter] The many, many hours of finger cramping.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Ooh, that sounded [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : So, how do I, so...
DELAYNE : That was [unintelligible]
DOMINIQUE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : This is strangely appropriate for a fanfic podcast, um...
DOMINIQUE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ...so, speaking of fanfiction, and kind of, and, and, wrapping this up, which I hate to...
DOMINIQUE : Oh, I don’t wanna go. Yeah. [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ...I know. But we can keep chatting after, if you want.
DELAYNE : [laughter] I’m ok with that.
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : Yeah, uh, but, um, so of course, we are the Earp Fiction Addiction, and it has become, sort of, my thing that I do, um, everything convention that I attend, I make it a point of coming up during the question time during panels, and asking for a prompt.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Mhmm.
DARKWICCAN : Uh, so...
DOMINIQUE : Yes, you do.
DARKWICCAN : ...I apologize, but...
DOMINIQUE : That’s ok.
DARKWICCAN : ...could you give us a simple WayHaught prompt for all the authors listening to our show.
DOMINIQUE : Is the best way to do this to just do it how we’ve done at panels where I say where it is, something that’s involved in it, or, is that the best way to do this?
DARKWICCAN : You can do that, or you can do a single word prompt that might inspire a theme, you can uh, really, whatever comes to mind. If there is a alternate universe that you have always dreamed of imagining the characters in, you can use that as a prompt too.
DOMINIQUE : Gosh, ok.
DARKWICCAN : Is it too many options? I can narrow it down.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Yeah, exactly. No, it’s good. I’m just gonna go with the first thing that came to my head.
DARKWICCAN : Yes.
DOMINIQUE : Which is...
DARKWICCAN : Oooh.
DOMINIQUE : ...Buddhist temple, um, yeah, and then I’m...
LARAGH : [laughter] Ok.
DOMINIQUE : ...going to say a brick...
DARKWICCAN : Ok.
DOMINIQUE : ...and I’m going to say Slytherin.
DARKWICCAN : Alright.
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : Harry Potter AU.
DARKWICCAN : Wow, ok.
DOMINIQUE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : That’s gonna be amazing. That’s gonna be amazing.
DOMINIQUE : Do you think that’s gonna be the weirdest thing you’ve ever, ever heard?
DARKWICCAN : Nope. Nope. NO. [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DELAYNE : Uh, yeah. DW and I use to do challenge prompts in our, in our Buffy days, so we have made weirder combinations.
DARKWICCAN : Yeah.
DOMINIQUE : You’ve gone through it all. Oh my god. One day I’m gonna dive into that world, you guys. I’ll need to get some, like, hot tips on where to start because I think there’s just, like, so much out there, isn’t there. How would you even know?
DELAYNE : Uh, follow our podcast. [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Yeah, there you go.
DARKWICCAN : Yeah, you can follow us on Twitter at E F A underscore podcast, we give recommendations every day during the week, we take the weekend off, but um, I would be more than happy to give you, like, two or three titles to start with.
DELAYNE : A carefully curated list. [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : A carefully curated list. [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Wow. I love it. [laughter] So cool you guys. Too cool for school. Too cool for school.
DARKWICCAN : Oh, and so are you, frankly, so [laughter].
DOMINIQUE : Ah, well, so are you. Right back at you and uh, this has been delightful, hasn’t it.
DARKWICCAN : It has been amazing, thank you so much
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DARKWICCAN : ...for taking time out of your day to chat with us about so much. [laughter]
DELAYNE : Wow.
DOMINIQUE : So much, we covered a bunch of stuff. Your questions were on point, you guys.
DARKWICCAN : Thank you.
DOMINIQUE : Like, keep doing what you’re doing. Keep the discussion flowing, and just have...
DARKWICCAN : Indeed...
DOMINIQUE : ...fun right.
DARKWICCAN : ...and also, same to you. You just keep giving us great advice that we’re just gonna reflect back toward you. [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : Mmm. I know, I really need to start listening to my own advice, that’s been a big part of it, and like, feeling so much, kind of, um, I’m gonna st...I’m not gonna start ‘cause
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DARWICCAN : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : ...if I start talking. You’ve just wrapped up so nicely, and then I’m just gonna open the chat again.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : But, uh, yeah, it’s, ugh, I’m going to stop you guys.
DARKWICCAN : [laughter]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
LARAGH : [laughter]
DOMINIQUE : But, that just shows how much you’ve, like, inspired me to start thinking about all of these subjects, and yeah continue pushing forward. So, thank you.
DARKWICCAN : Fantastic. Well, thank you again, so much, and I cannot wait to see what Dominique does next.
DOMINIQUE : [mimicking epic music]
DELAYNE : [laughter]
MUSIC : Don't Deal with the Devil by Kristoffer Madigan
DARKWICCAN : And that’s all for this episode of the Earp Fiction Addiction. Thanks for joining us. Tremendous thanks to Dominique Provost Chalkley for taking time out of her busy schedule to chat with us today. Thanks to our announcer Byron Tidwell.
Background music for the episode was: A Proper Story by Darren Korb, Two Words by Maru Tang, Belle of the Ball by Leroy Anderson, and the outro music is Don't Deal with the Devil by Kristoffer Madigan.
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