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Descendants of Eochaid Muinremur Descendants of Eochaid Muinremur Generation No. 1 1. EOCHAID1 MUINREMUR1,2 was born Abt. 4003. He married FERGUSA4. Notes for EOCHAID MUINREMUR: Pictish Sourcebook: Documents of Medieval Legend and Dark Age History by J. M. P. Calisa, 2002 cites several documents that state that Erc's father was Eochaid Muinremur. Another son (brother to Erc) was named Olchu. Also Eochaid Muinremur was said to have married Fergusa (or Feidelmid). Though there are a couple variations of the supposed father of Eochaid Muinremur shown here, No other reliable information seems to support these, so at least for the moment, we are unable to trace this part of the line any further. Glenochel: A Descriptive Poem in Two Volumes by James Kennedy, 1810, also states that Eochaid Muinremur (shown as Eocha Munrahmar here) was the father of Erc and Olchu as follows: "About the commencement of the sixth century, the Caledonian crown seems to have, again devolved on an Irish king. This was Olchu, the son of Eocha Munrahmar, prince of Dalriada in Ulster, who sent Loarn, Fergus, and Angus, the sons of his brother Erc, to assume the sovereign power. They landed in Kintyre, during A.D. 503, and immediately erected separate governments. Loarn occupied the district still known by his name: the portion of Fergus was Kintyre, while that of Angus, was Ila. The death of his brothers soon left Fergus sole monarch of the Caledonian Scots, till A.D. 506, when his decease left Domangart, his son, in possession of his throne." Children of EOCHAID MUINREMUR and FERGUSA are: 2. i. ERC2, d. 474. ii. OLCHU4. Generation No. 2 2. ERC2 (EOCHAID1 MUINREMUR)5,6,7 died 4748. Notes for ERC: From Clan Donald by Donald J. MacDonald, 2007. "The Scots of Dalriada were consolidating their hold on Argyll, Kintyre, and the isles south of Ardnamurchan. They had their set-backs and in 471 A.D. a strong king of the Picts, Angus, drove them back and occupied much of their territory. In the year 474, however, King Erc of Irish Dalriada dies, leaving three sons, Fergus, Lorn and Angus. The succession was in dispute, and, when their uncle was made King in accordance with the Celtic Law of Tanistry, they left Ireland, migrated to Dalriada in Alba and divided the land between them. Lorn gave his name to the northern part. Fergus had Islay and Kintyre and Angus ruled Arran and Cowal. Not long after, Fergus became King of Alban Dalriada, and is acclaimed as the first King of Scots in Scotland, although for another 60 years his realm was still part of Irish Dalriada." From Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Kaleen E. Beall, 2004. "1. ERCC, King of Dalriada, in northern Ireland, son of Eochaid Muinremur, King of Dalriada, d. 474, (Annals of the Four Masters). Several sons including Loarn and Fergus. 2. FERGUS, established an Irish kingdom of Dalriada in Argyle, now Scotland. Ruled (for three years?) in succession to his brother, Loarn, at an uncertain date 498-501? He has sometimes been confused with Ercc, a son of Loarn's daughter. 3. DOMONGART, apparently briefly King of Dalriada in Scotland, at an uncertain date for a short time following his father's death. According to Book of Leinster (12th cent.) and Book of Ballymote (14th cent.), he m. Feldelm Foltchain, dau of Brion, son of Eochaid Mugmedon. Brion was a half-brother of the famous Niall of the Nine Hostages. This marriage is in good agreement with the revised chronology of Carney (Studies in Irish Literature and History) for the fifth century, which puts the death of Niall at about 542 A.D. and the death of Patrick about 490 A.D." From The History of Scotland from Agricola's Invasion to the Extinction of the Last Insurrenction by John Hill Burton, 1899. "A chief among the Scots of Ulster, called Carber Riadha, who Lived in the middle of the third century, became, according to the Irish annals, so important as to found a dynasty. The people governed by his descendants were called Dalriads, and their territory, forming the northern part of the present county of Antrim, became known as Dalriada. When they had passed over in such numbers as to form a considerable colony in Argyle, some of the descendants of Carber thought it worth while to seek their fortunes in the colony, and became governors there over a people who took the name of Dalriads. Thus Erc, who ruled in Irish Dalriada had at least two sons—some annalists say six—bearing rule in Scotland. The eldest was Loarn More, or the Great Loarn, whose name still lives in the district and marquisate of Lorne, He may be counted the first king of Dalriada and thence the first king of Scotland—at least it is impossible to carry the thread of even a probable ruling authority, vested in the ancestors of the kings of Scotland, any farther back. His period is the commencement of the sixth century. The year 503 has been stated as the first of his reign. To trace the course of his successors is difficult, since the race brought with them the ways of the Irish monarchies or chiefships, and of many others of the same age, in which there was neither an absolute law of succession nor definite boundaries either of territory or authority. This difficulty has been aggravated by the efforts both of annalists and antiquaries, who have endeavoured to bind the few known facts of the period to the pure hereditary principles which grew in feudal times, or to some other rule of succession which they have attributed to the Irish monarchies. For some such reasons as those just alluded to, no rule of the kind can be found, and we must be content with the simple facts, which show us several members of the predominant family all holding portions of territory more or less extensive; while one, not always indicated by any established principle of descent is generally the most powerful, and may be numbered among the kings or chief rulers of Dalriada. So, though his brother Angus possessed Islay, and other relations of Loarm were more or less endowed, it was his youngest brother, Feargus More, or Fergus the Great, who succeeded him as king of Scots Dalriada." Children of ERC are: 3. i. FERGUS3 MOR, b. Bet. 435 - 445; d. Bet. 501 - 506. ii. ANGUS MOR8. iii. LOARN MOR8. Generation No. 3 3. FERGUS3 MOR (ERC2, EOCHAID1 MUINREMUR)9,10,11 was born Bet. 435 - 44512, and died Bet. 501 - 50613,14. Notes for FERGUS MOR: From The Mammoth Book of British Kings and Queens by Mike Ashley, 2012. "FERGUS MOR (the GREAT) Dal Riata, c498-501 Traditionally the founder of the Dal Riatan dynasty of Argyll and Kintyre, Fergus and his brothers Angus and Loarn, the sons of Erc, came from the Dal Riatan homeland in northern Ireland sometime around the year 498 to establish their domain along the western headlands of Scotland. It is certain that Irish/Gaelic settlers had established themselves in these territories for several centuries (see CAIBRE), living jointly with the native Picts. It was quite natural that as the settlements grew they would look to their Irish rulers for guidance, and it was also natural that, as inter-dynastic squabbles over territory in Ireland led to increasing friction, someone would strike out to claim new lands. There is no record that Fergus and his brothers had to conquer their territory and it is only in later generations that the conflict arose between the Irish Scots and the Picts. It is not clear whether the three brothers carved out their territories in their own lifetime, or whether this happened in subsequent generations, but in principle it seems that FERGUS took the primary share of Kintyre and central Argyll. Loarn took the territory to the north around Loch Linnhe and Glenco, and Argus settled on the island of Islay. Fergus is supposed to have brought with him the Stone of Destiny upon which all the high kings had been ordained at Tara for centuries. The annals record the death of Fergus in the year 501, and he was succeeded by his son DOMANGART. Since Domangart died within a few years we may assume they both were old. It is unlikely that he would have achieved the epithet "the Great", or indeed have been known as Fergus, which means "man of power", if he had died young. The Irish annals record the death of his father , Erc, in 474. Moreover we find amongst the tales of of the life of St. Patrick that he visited the court of Erc and prophesied that Fergus would be the father of a nation. Since Patrick died in 461 and Fergus was already an adult we may deduce that he was born perhaps either side of 440." From The American Historical Magazine, Publishing Society of New York, 1908. "Fergus is the first Scottish king recognized in the line of descent from the Irish kings to King Kenneth McAlpin of a later generation. Some antiquarians have built ups a pedigree extending many generations beyond Fergus, but their conclusions have not been accepted by conservative and more reliable investigators and scholars. Scotland's great historian, George Chalmers, in his "Caledonia" conceded the beginning of the line of Scottish kings in Fergus as historically and conclusively established. Other historians and genealogists of his day and of later periods who have made a particular study of the earlier and somewhat cloudy periods of Scottish history, unite in agreement with him.
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