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Hansard Library and I Found That There Was Stout Opposition, from One Party Only, to a Revision of Standing Orders, and That Was the UNC 1 Appropriation Bill, 2014 Wednesday, October 01, 2014 SENATE Wednesday, October 01, 2014 The Senate met at 10.00 a.m. PRAYERS [MR. VICE-PRESIDENT in the Chair] APPROPRIATION (FINANCIAL YEAR 2015) BILL, 2014 [Second Day] Order read for resuming adjourned debate on question [September 30, 2014]: That the Bill be now read a second time. Question again proposed. Mr. Vice-President: A list of those who spoke previously: Sen. The Hon. Larry Howai, Minister of Finance and the Economy, mover of the Motion; Sen. Dr. Lester Henry; Sen. Dr. Rolph Balgobin; Sen. The Hon. Dr. Bhoendradatt Tewarie; Sen. Helen Drayton; Sen. The Hon. Raziah Ahmed; Sen. Shamfa Cudjoe; Sen. Dr. Dhanayshar Mahabir; Sen. The Hon. Embau Moheni; Sen. Dr. Victor Wheeler. All Senators wishing to join in the debate may do so now. Sen. The Hon. F. Karim [Desk thumping] The Minister of Tertiary Education and Skills Training (Sen. The Hon. Fazal Karim: Thank you very much, Mr. Vice-President, and let me welcome you once more in the Chair. Mr. Vice-President, it is my pleasure to have been afforded this opportunity by you to join in this very significant and historic debate this morning, and I want to immediately join with the rest of my colleagues in congratulating our hon. Prime Minister, Mrs. Kamla Persad-Bissessar for her leadership role in steering our economy once again as a success story. UNREVISED 2 Appropriation Bill, 2014 (cont’d) Wednesday, October 01, 2014 Sen. The Hon. F. Karim (cont’d) I also wish to take the opportunity to congratulate the hon. Larry Howai, Minister of Finance and the Economy, and I know that he will also add to his congratulations my colleague to my right, Sen. The Hon. Vasant Bharath and hon. Rudranath Indarsingh. I think that the hon. Prime Minister, our dear Minister of Finance and the Economy and our colleague Ministers deserve a tremendous round of applause. [Desk thumping]. Mr. Vice-President, before I get into the substance of my contribution this morning, I was taken aback yesterday by a comment made by my friend on the other side, Sen. Dr. Lester Henry. When he commented on the presentation by our Minister of Finance and the Economy, he said, and I want to quote him. He said that the presentation is like: “how to mismanage an economy 101.” I want to tell my dear friend, very good friend, from the University of the West Indies in St. Augustine, that what in fact we have witnessed from Minister Howai and which I just approved as the Minister of Tertiary Education and Skills Training, there is a course entitled: “Prudent and Responsible Fiscal and Monetary Management of Trinidad and Tobago’s Economy 101,” [Desk thumping] and the lecturer is nobody else but Sen. The Hon. Larry Howai. [Desk thumping] I want to advise, because it is important that they understand what I am going to go to next, that this course will be available online, face-to-face and blended methodology. Sen. G. Singh: Aye-Ya-Yaye. [Desk thumping] Sen. The. Hon. F. Karim: I just want to repeat as well that this course is GATE approved. I am saying that in— Sen. G. Singh: Tongue-in-cheek. UNREVISED 3 Appropriation Bill, 2014 (cont’d) Wednesday, October 01, 2014 Sen. The Hon. F. Karim (cont’d) Sen. The. Hon. F. Karim: Tongue-in-cheek. And as a matter of fact all are welcome, but the priority registration will go to my friends, the PNM Senators. [Desk thumping] Mr.Vice-President, yesterday my colleague, the independent Senator Dr. Dhanayshar Mahabir made a comment about—that we should prepare ourselves in the time of peace and the time of war, and he made reference to a book that was kindly given to him by my colleague, Minister Hadeed. And that is, that we should be prepared, and I think the terminology, “The 33 Strategies of War”. But I want to also advise that there is another publication which I would like to share with Dr. Mahabir, and it deals with war as well, but in a different context. It is: “The Coming Jobs War”. This Coming Jobs War is a book published by the Chairman of Gallup, his name is Jim Clifton, and he was focusing on the global financial crisis, and in particular, the US economy. And he says, and I quote: “A global jobs war is coming, and there’s no time to waste.” It will be like World War II, a war for all the marbles. “Cities are crumbling for lack of good jobs.” Instability can set in. “The cities and countries that act first—that focus everything they have on creating good jobs—are the ones that will win.” And therefore, Mr. Vice-President, when I see how we have managed this economy, how we have created jobs and opportunities to the extent where for the first time in the history of Trinidad and Tobago, and I have the evidence to show, that while we had set a target of the participation rate of 60 per cent in the tertiary sector, we have surpassed that to 65.2 per cent. UNREVISED 4 Appropriation Bill, 2014 (cont’d) Wednesday, October 01, 2014 Sen. The Hon. F. Karim (cont’d) [Desk thumping] But, you know, when my friend talks about, 101 how to mismanage an economy, I wanted to remind him about the lessons of the past, and people say we should not go back to the past. In fact, there is a medical, psychological, neurological disorder called psychosis and that is defined as, where you deny the reality that is around you, you are out of touch with reality. But for those who want to talk about mismanagement of the economy, let me just remind us and the national community of some of the things that that course may have been invented for. A Tarouba Stadium that went from $275 million to over $1 billion. The Tamana Park that went from $1.1 billion in December 2007, recall the date, to $2.4 billion in 2010. Three million dollars worth of drapes in a $240 million palace for the then Prime Minister. A $30 million mystery Guanapo Church. A $50 million blimp that went to limp. A $154 million of delinquent rent moneys at the airport. [Desk thumping] A $368 million contract to the a brother-in-law of a gentleman who has absconded. A $650 million incomplete legal affairs tower. A $700 million incomplete Chancery Lane Complex. A $500 million incomplete South Academy for the Performing Arts. A $2.7 billion gas to liquids plant at Petrotrin that is now, that could only be sold for scrap iron. I could go on, but all of these would have been for that course that he talked about, that they were familiar with, “how to mismanage an economy, 101”. [Desk thumping] Mr.Vice-President, I want to deal substantially now with the allocation to the Ministry of Tertiary Education and Skills Training. As a UNREVISED 5 Appropriation Bill, 2014 (cont’d) Wednesday, October 01, 2014 Sen. The Hon. F. Karim (cont’d) matter of fact, this Government continues to place heavy emphasis on education and training. And consistently, you would have seen that the percentage of the total budget in 2011 to 2014 has been maintained around 16 per cent. And in fact, we are proud to say that in 2011 the budget was entitled: “Facing the Issues: Turning the Economy Around”. In 2012 it went like this, “From Steady Foundation to Economic Transformation”; from 2013, “Stimulating Growth, Generating Prosperity”; 2014, “Sustaining Growth, Securing Prosperity”. And in 2015, the theme is, “Empowering our People through Sustained Economic Growth and Prosperity”. And in all of these we would have gotten a substantial amount of money, and in any event what I am indicating is, while people may feel that $10.1 billion went to two Ministries, that is not entirely correct. It went to the Ministry of Education; the Ministry of Tertiary Education and Skills Training; the Ministry of Public Administration; even the Ministry of National Security; and many other Ministries that are involved in educational training. I say that to make the point that we continue to focus on the human resource development of all the people of Trinidad and Tobago. And that brings me to the point of the GATE Programme, the Government Assistance for Tuition Expenses. Let me say categorically, in spite of comments that I am hearing from my colleagues, the position and the policy of the Government of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago is as follows: We have kept our manifesto promises, and in particular, the one [Desk thumping] I am going to tell you about, you can locate it in the 120- day Action Plan of the People’s Partnership Manifesto, which is entitled UNREVISED 6 Appropriation Bill, 2014 (cont’d) Wednesday, October 01, 2014 Sen. The Hon. F. Karim (cont’d) “Prosperity for all,” not some or a few, prosperity for all the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago and the item number two said, we will secure and expand the GATE Programme, and in this case, to technical and vocational education and training. Mr.Vice-President, I want to repeat that, the policy of this Government is that we shall not and will not discriminate to any citizen of Trinidad and Tobago. All shall be available and exposed to the Government Assistance for Tuition Expenses. [Desk thumping] We have a total enrolment in 2009/2010 of 53,639 students, but, Mr. Vice-President, many are talking about the GATE Programme.
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