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The Association for Diplomatic Studies and Training Foreign Affairs Oral History Project KEITH P. MCCORMICK Interviewed by: Charles Stuart Kennedy Initial interview date: July 20, 2000 Copyright 2006 ADS TABLE OF CONTENTS Background Born and raised in California Principia College University of California at Berkeley Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy Institute for Advanced International Studies (Geneva) Newspaper man U.S. Air Force, ,ietnam -ar .ntered Foreign Service - 1123 Lu4embourg 6 Political7Consular Officer 1123-1128 Ambassador Ruth Farkas State Department - Operations Center 1128-1122 Op Center -ork :issinger views Human rights policy Cyrus ,ance State Department - Africa Bureau (BLS Desk Officer) 1122-1121 Botswana, Lesotho, Swaziland Affairs Anglo-American Initiative Agency for International Development (AID) Africa Bureau attitudes South Africa Rhodesia CIA capabilities Nuclear test University of California at Los Angeles 1121-1180 Southern Africa studies Johannesburg, South Africa - Political Officer 1180-1183 Internal politics African National Congress (ANC) 1 Pan-African Congress Afrikaans U.S. press -hite attitudes U.S. policy Chester Crocker Homelands Non-governmental organizations [NGOsA Apartheid State Department - .UR - .ast Germany Desk Officer 1183-1185 U.S. issues Negotiations Soviet relations Berlin Family reunification Spies and secret police Una Chapman Co4 Foundation - -estern U.S. 1185 State Department - TDC - Interagency Task Force 1185 Defense of U.S. South Africa policy Congressional Fellowship - Senator Durkowski Staff 1188 Central America Fishing Senator Frank Durkowski Alaska7Siberia border opening State Department - Secretary of State Advisory Committee on 1188 South Africa - Deputy Director Consensus building Sanctions Congressional Fellowship 1188-1182 Iran-Contra Counter-Terrorism Foreign Service and Congress Jesse Helms :orea .thnic politics State Department 6 Office of Counter-Terrorism (S7CT) 6 1182-1188 Director of Plans and Policy Terrorism NORAID 2 Interagency relations FBI FSI - Thai Language Training 1188-1181 Bangkok, Thailand - Deputy Political Counselor 1181-1111 Cambodian conflict Humanitarian aid ,ietnam Soviets CIA Refugees :hmer Rouge .nvironment .conomy -ellington, New Eealand - Political Counselor 1111-1113 .conomy Labor movement Relations Nuclear issue (NCND) Government Pacific islands State Department - Congressional Relations - Staff 1113-1112 Politics Legislative management Taiwan7China issue Congressional briefings ,ietnam normalization issue -hite House relations China trade issues -hite House - NSC - Director of Legislation 1112-1118 China Human rights Clinton lawyers Russia State Department - Office of Inspector General 1118-2000 USUN inspection USUN debt .mbassy inspectors Retirement - Consultant to Office of Inspector General 2000 3 INTERVIEW Q: Do you go by Keith" DCCORDIC:: I do. Q: Keith, let#s start at the beginning. When and where were you born, and tell me a little bit about your parents. DCCORDIC:: I was born in California, in Los Angeles, in late 1133. Dy parents had moved there in the H20s. Dy motherIs family was from Dontana. Both families were .nglish and Scottish. Over the generations they had moved across the country from Dassachusetts and ,irginia, eventually winding up in California. Q: Were they basically a farm family" DCCORDIC:: No, they had always been city people. Teachers, preachers, clerics. Q: ell me a little bit about your father. What type of wor) was he in, and where was he coming from" DCCORDIC:: Dy father was an engineer, attended Berkeley, and went into the space program. He spent most of his career in the space program and was a great believer in it. He came eventually to the Jet Propulsion Laboratory at Caltech in Pasadena. ThatIs where we lived, where I spent most of my early life, in the Pasadena area. Q: He went to the University of California in Ber)eley. What about your mother" DCCORDIC:: Dy mother came from Dontana. Her family had been reasonably wealthy in a small town but lost everything in the H20s and, like a lot of other people, migrated to California. Q: My family went from Winnet)a to South Pasadena, too. DCCORDIC:: ReallyJ Cou know e4actly what IIm talking about. Q: he Depression got some people moving around. DCCORDIC:: I later had a very generous grant from the Co4 Foundation to go to Dontana. Their purpose was to send me to talk to people who knew nothing about the Foreign Service and never saw anyone from the State Department in Dontana. In the process, I talked to enough people to learn a great deal more about my motherIs background and the story of her family. Q: Did your mother go to college" 4 DCCORDIC:: She only went a year or two at the University of Southern California in Los Angeles. Q: How large was your family" DCCORDIC:: I had two brothers. I was the oldest and my family was always interested in traveling much more internationally conscious than average. I also had a great interest in the space program and science, although I didnIt inherit any great scientific bent. Q: Did you go to school in Pasadena" DCCORDIC:: I went to the Pasadena public schools, which in those days were e4cellent. Q. Oh, yes, I went to South Pass Junior High and Henry Huntington School. DCCORDIC:: I know e4actly where those are. Q: In grammar school, you say you weren#t interested in math0 did you feel you should be" DCCORDIC:: No, I found it intellectually interesting but I never really had any great interest in it. I grew up in a childIs imaginary world full of books, very literary, read everything. Q: Can you thin) of any authors that particularly grabbed you 1 that were fun to read" DCCORDIC:: C. S. Lewis - his childrenIs books the theology came later. C. S. Forester - every one of the Hornblower books. Forester shaped my view of what it would be like to serve in a large organization like the Royal Navy or the State Department. -hat sorts of moral convictions what sorts of ethical questions what sorts of personal goals you might want to set for yourself if you were going to try a career in something like the navy or the Foreign Service. Q: How about at home 1 were foreign affairs a matter of discussion" By the time you were ten or twelve the Cold War and the space race were on. DCCORDIC:: I was very conscious of all that, probably more so than most children my age. -hen I was twelve, I went to spend a summer in De4ico with a family there who had a son my age who later came up and lived with us. That e4perience added to my interest in foreign places. And yes, the general atmosphere at home was one of curiosity about international events, great interest in them. I remember growing up thinking of myself as living in a far away corner of the world - not in the center, not in London or Paris or New Cork, but off in California, which is a very strange place, not the middle of the world but off on one side. As a child, I had a vision of the world that was centered on -estern .urope somewhere, not where I happened to live. Q: Were movies or television part of your life" DCCORDIC:: Ces, although I probably wouldnIt be able to come up with as many memories of them as I would about books. Dy family read a lot. 5 Q: In those days, Pasadena was considered a very serious place. DCCORDIC:: Ces, it was a very cultured, educated city. A ,ictorian city. It was founded by Didwestern immigrants with high ,ictorian ideals, who immediately set up a civic infrastructure of symphonies and libraries and so forth. Q: Which high school did you attend" DCCORDIC:: I went to John Duir High School. Q: Did you have any particular ma2or interests there" DCCORDIC:: Dy interests at that time were the student newspaper, which was quite important to me I debated on the debate team played at individual sports but was never very serious about any team sports my interest was much more in the area of student government. Q: Was Pasadena a diverse community at that time" DCCORDIC:: Ces, it was. At the time I was going to high school, there were major battles about court-ordered de-segregation in the Pasadena school system, which was quite traumatic for the city and the schools. Of course, I would never have thought in terms of diversity per se. I had friends from various ethnic groups and it was not a particularly strained situation from my point of view as a white middle class person. Diversity as a goal would never have occurred to me. Q: Were you pic)ing up any of the dynamics of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory" his was during the 450s and early 460s when there was a lot of pressure on the space program. DCCORDIC:: Several things stand out to me. Dy father was transferred from Pasadena to the Strategic Air Command Headquarters at Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska for two years while I was in junior high school. This was just after Sputnik in H58, and the great push by the U.S. government to have a space program, and to improve the science and math in our schools. In 1152, I recall the failure of ,anguard, one of the first American attempts. Q: Well, there was a whole series of roc)ets that )ept e6ploding at one point. DCCORDIC:: .4actly. That was well known to me and a lot of the kids I knew. Later, I probably had a bit more awareness than the average person of the entire program down through Apollo, certainly, and ,oyager. ,oyager really captured my imagination. Q: 7oyager being" DCCORDIC:: ,oyager being the attempt to send a ship outside the entire planetary system after a close pass over Jupiter. That was really cosmic e4ploration.