Unrevised Hansard National Council of Provinces Wednesday, 9 June 2021
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UNREVISED HANSARD NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES WEDNESDAY, 9 JUNE 2021 Page: 1 WEDNESDAY, 9 JUNE 2021 ____ PROCEEDINGS OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES ____ The Council met at 14:01. The Chairperson took the Chair and requested members to observe a moment of silence for prayers or meditation. The CHAIPERSON OF THE NCOP: As we do so, let me add my voice and join the nation as we mourn the loss of Surtie-Richards, well known for acting in productions such as Fiela se Kind as well as Generations. Those who watch generations earlier will remember this. I now take this opportunity at this point to say to delegates and urge them to observe a moment of silence for prayers or meditation. ANNOUNCEMENTS The CHAIPERSON OF THE NCOP: I will start off by reminding delegates that the Rules and processes apply in this sitting. I would like to remind you of the following: That the virtual UNREVISED HANSARD NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES WEDNESDAY, 9 JUNE 2021 Page: 2 sitting constitutes the sitting of the National Council of Provinces, that delegates in the virtual sitting enjoy the same powers and privileges that apply in the sitting of the National Council of Provinces. For purpose of the quorum, all delegates in the virtual platform are deemed to be present in the House. Delegates must always switch on their videos and ensure that the microphones on their gadgets are muted and must always remain muted unless a member has a permission to speak. The interpretation facility is active and that any delegate who wish to speak must use the raise-hand function. I hope and trust that members are familiar with this function. I would then move on. I have been informed that there will be no notices of motions or motions without notice. Hon delegates, before we proceed to the policy debate I would like to take this opportunity to welcome in the House the Minister of Police and the Minister of Social Development as well as their deputies. I have also been informed that there will be one debate on First Order, Second Order and Third Order, we therefore proceed to the First Order, Second Order and Third Order of the day, policy debate on Budget Vote No 28 – Police, policy debate on Budget Vote No 24 – Independent Police Investigative Directorate, Ipid, policy debate on Budget Vote No 21 - Civilian Secretariat for Police Service, Appropriation Bill [B 4 – 2021] (National Assembly – sec 77). I will now UNREVISED HANSARD NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES WEDNESDAY, 9 JUNE 2021 Page: 3 call now the hon Minister, Bheki Cele to open the debate. Hon Cele? APPROPRIATION BILL (Policy debate) Policy debate on Budget Vote No 28: Police Policy debate on Budget Vote No 24: Independent Police Investigative Directorate Policy debate on Budget Vote No 21: Civilian Secretariat for Police Service The MINISTER OF POLICE: Hon Chairperson, hon Ministers that are here, hon Deputy Ministers, hon Chairperson of the Portfolio Committee, Tina Joemat-Pettersson , hon Members of Parliament, hon MECs, National Commissioner of the SA Police Service, SAPS, heads of entities, heads of department, the leadership of organised labour and the Ministry of Police, ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon, receive our revolutionary greetings on behalf of the brave and dedicated members of the SAPS and all the employees in the entities UNREVISED HANSARD NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES WEDNESDAY, 9 JUNE 2021 Page: 4 serving under the Ministry of Police, both nationally and in provinces. This year we dedicate this Budget Vote to our members from the SA Police Service, Independent Police Investigative Directorate, Ipid, Civilian Secretariat for Police Service, CSPS, Private Security Industry Regulating Authority, Psira, and all other supporting structures who are a strong “engine” that keeps the policing machinery active in responding to the fundamental and constitutional obligations that governs our existence. Every car on the road boasts on the strength of their engine capacity – therefore, without a solid engine a car remains a useless shell that never moves nor reach any desired destination. This juxtaposed the Ministry I serve. If we don’t take care of our solid manpower within SA Police Service, Ipid, CSPS, Psira and other supporting structures, we will end up with a non performing and useless institution. Capacity building and training as part of human capital investment will be prioritised during this financial year. Meanwhile, proper and adequate resourcing of police stations and operational environments are top on our agenda. Police UNREVISED HANSARD NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES WEDNESDAY, 9 JUNE 2021 Page: 5 station visits in provinces and community outreach programmes will be enhanced to ensure that the solid “engine” is running effectively and efficiently in servicing the communities. To date, a number of Ministerial izimbizo have been hosted in different provinces, where stringent operational interventions were implemented in responding to the policing needs and crime fighting strategies of various policing precincts. In the next few weeks we are scheduled to visit Zandspruit in Gauteng and this weekend we will visit Ulundi and Nongoma in KwaZulu-Natal – actually we will be there in Ulundi and Nongoma this Friday and Saturday and in Zandspruit we will be there on 18 of this month. Once again, we dedicate this Budget Vote to the safety and wellbeing of our members and to further elevate and properly position the subject of police safety as the responsibility of the nation. Equally, as our members uphold the oath of office to serve and protect on a daily basis, our communities must unite in supporting the work of the police and most importantly communities must stand together in ensuring the safety of our police members on and off duty. Last but not least, we dedicate this speech to all members and employees of this sector who have succumbed to the deadly UNREVISED HANSARD NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES WEDNESDAY, 9 JUNE 2021 Page: 6 COVID-19 pandemic. Up to this point we have lost 635 police and those who have been infected are 30 333. Many of them could not get their well-deserved dignified send off because, we had to observe COVID-19 regulations. Policing under the COVID-19 pandemic has left the sector with numerous lessons and unmatched level of experience; of policing against all odds. The SAPS budget breakdown per programme make visible the initial budget allocation and the adjusted budget allocation thereof. Over the medium term, we endeavour to mitigate the impact of budget reductions on service delivery. The expenditure is expected to decrease at an average annual rate of 0,8%, from R99,6 billion in 2020-21 to R97,1 billion in 2023-24. Compensation of employees accounts for 78% of the department’s expenditure over the period ahead. To remain within government’s expenditure ceiling for compensation of employees, the department’s budget for this item is reduced by R35,8 billion over the medium term. Of this, R15,9 billion is in line with the decision not to implement the third year of the 2018 public sector wage agreement, and freezing of salary increases for the next three years. UNREVISED HANSARD NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES WEDNESDAY, 9 JUNE 2021 Page: 7 The remaining R19,9 billion represents Cabinet’s approved baseline reductions to narrow the budget deficit and shift the composition of government spending from consumption to investment. Excluding the reductions on compensation of employees, Cabinet has approved further reductions on the department’s baseline amounting to R3,4 billion over the medium term. These reductions will mainly be effected on noncore goods and services items. The department’s spending focus for the year which is mainly on goods and services as well as capital investment over the medium term includes the following. Reductions in the compensation of employees’ budget baseline. The department will sustain the forensic services baseline allocation as increased in the 2020-21 financial year. The baseline allocation for the Directorate for Priority Crime Investigation, DPCI – those are the Hawks baseline, as recently increased will be sustained. Professionalising the police service through skills development, continued strengthening of the criminal justice system by supporting the Integrated Criminal Justice Strategy, investing in capital assets consisting of machinery and equipment essentially transport assets as well as mobile police stations, continued focus of other critical items such as bullet resistant vests, firearms, uniform, etc. UNREVISED HANSARD NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES WEDNESDAY, 9 JUNE 2021 Page: 8 In our efforts to continue with the implementation of the panel of experts reports emanating from the Marikana Commission recommendations, funding has been set aside to continue to capacitate the existing public order policing units. Members of this unit will be deployed in various provinces to stabilise crime in identified hotspot areas. Departmental spending over the medium term will be in relation to the core programmes with visible policing taking more than 51% weight of the total budget. The programme, which is detective services will take about 20%. The latest crime statistics revealed Plessislaer in Pietermaritzburg as a murder capital in the country, followed by Inanda and Umlazi - which are also in KwaZulu–Natal. To date, operational interventions are yielding positive results following crime combatting operations that were held in Pietermaritzburg and other policing precincts in the past week. Provinces with the highest incidence of reported crime, have been prioritised in terms of the allocation of baseline budgets. This will also ensure prioritisation and resourcing of the top 30 high contact crime stations in the country. This is R62 million extra that has been given to the stations that are high on the top 30 crime stations. Western Cape has been given R10 million, Northern Cape R4 million, Free State UNREVISED HANSARD NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES WEDNESDAY, 9 JUNE 2021 Page: 9 R4 million, Eastern Cape R10 million, Kwazulu-Natal R10 million, Mpumalanga R6 million, Limpopo R4 million, Gauteng R10 million, North West R4 million.