Barry, I Found You Homepage. Do You Have Any Pictures of a Jet Aircraft
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From: Howard Coffey <"[email protected]"@monmouth.com> Date: January 19, 1997 2:36:46 PM PST To: [email protected] Subject: 747 Barry, I found you homepage. Do you have any pictures of a jet aircraft with the American Airline colors and logo for a page I am working on. I will duplicate and make a moving gif out of it. Please email me if you can help. Ps I was the first to visit your page and will be glad to link to our site. Howard C From: [email protected] Date: January 19, 1997 6:50:05 PM PST To: [email protected] Subject: No AA Do you have any pictures of a jet aircraft with the American Airline colors and logo for a page I am working on. I don't think so, only what's there but the search engines should direct you to exactly what you want. There lots of pictures out there. If I see a AA airplane I'll send it to you. Barry. From: Christian Tendick <[email protected]> Date: January 20, 1997 10:32:20 PM PST To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> Subject: unidentified sound I am an Aerospace Engineer who came across your website full of baseless nonsense which demonstrates your complete lack of technical understanding of how aircraft are designed, built, and operated. In light of the fact that you are an experienced audiologist, I wonder if you might be able to identify the enclosed sound. Please don't continue to perpetuate this garbage you call objective comparison and leave it to the people who know what in the hell they are talking about. In other words you are a completely ignorant fool with some sort of vendetta. So lay off you FUCKING IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!! Sincerely, A Very Intelligent and Informed Engineer in the Finest Aerospace Industry in the World. Content-Type: audio/wav; name="unidentified.wav" Attachment converted: Master:unidentified.wav (????/----) (00017113) This message has the following attachments: file://localhost/Users/barry/Library/Mail/ Attachments/.DS_Store From: [email protected] Date: January 21, 1997 8:28:00 AM PST To: [email protected] Subject: I flew in one. Hey, ' Very Intelligent and Informed Engineer in the Finest Aerospace Industry in the World.' I flew in a stretch DC-8 one time, yeah, that was the 'magic carpet' ride from Clark AFB PI to Travis AFB, CA. Oh, man, the plane was filled with the air group pilots and navigators off the USS Enterprise, CVA(N)-65 and we had just completed four line periods flying against the best air defenses the world had ever known. There were less returning than had originally left, including two guys in our squadron, RVAH-1, who somehow got themselves shot down and captured by the North Vietnamese on May 8th, 1968. They stayed there until April 11th, 1973. I flew back on the stretch DC-8, which was a little scary actually. The fuselage was so long it would yaw back and forth when viewed from the rear. And then of course we did not get nose gear down and locked light so Travis got out the crash trucks and we gingerly landed after orbiting for a while. The gear held, we all cheered and we were back in the USA! The USA, yes, land of freedom to write flaming non substantial childish emotional nonsense to someone who has put thousands of hours of well researched and document supported observation, analysis, and conclusion available to all. Mr. Oh, I guess you didn't leave your name, I will continue to fight for your right to make a fool of yourself and your profession of aerospace engineer by encouraging you to continue to write to me. As soon as you say something intelligent and relevant to the accidental deaths, mysterious deaths, of airline passengers, designed by intelligent and informed aerospace engineers, then I will post it on the site, as a valuable addition to solving the mystery, as I have posted all the bomb guys, and the missile guys, and the center tank fire guys, and me, the cargo door guy. You write as if we are not in the middle of an active mystery in which innocent men women and children died in supposedly safe airplane. It may be that you realize the plane is at fault which means the designers are at fault, which means you are at fault and you are desparately saying to yourself, no, no, it can't be and anyone who says so is a " a completely ignorant fool with some sort of vendetta. So lay off you FUCKING IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!" Whoa, I must have struck paydirt of truth with that outburst. Mr. 'I don't want to leave my name because I am so ashamed,' you have emboldened me, you have strengthened my resolve, I shall continue this effort to get the doors fixed. If you work for Boeing, then check with John Hamilton of your Commercial Planes Safety Division, he knows what's going on. Naw, you don't work for Boeing, those guys have class. You must work for MACDAC, or MD, or change the name of the DC-10, maybe the public will forget about the three terribly designed cargo door crashes that killed 300 or so people. So, in that case, Mr. Aerospace Engineer, contact Mr. Steve Lund of the Safety Division of Commerical Planes of MD. We are both upset at planes crashing when they shouldn't. We are both upset at needless death. You do what you can to fix the problem, and I do what I can to fix the problem. We are not enemies, we can be allies. From an engineer point of view, the big question to answer is, if the door goes and tears off the large piece of fuselage skin, as it did in UAL 811, could the complete nose be torn off in a few seconds in another B747, older and more worn? If the answer is no, impossible, then the cargo door theory is dead in the water, as they say in ship talk. If the answer is yes, or maybe, then the cargo door theory is alive and is worthy of further attention. I am interested in your facts and closely devived conclusions, your irate flames just make me reach for my...keyboard. John Barry Smith PS I was hoping, as it was downloaded, the .wav file was the sudden loud sound on the CVRs of the four cargo door crashed airplanes, you did know they all had the same sudden loud sound before destruction, didn't you. But then I read your email, realized the .wav must be some sort of fart soud or something, could not risk a virus, so deleted the file unlistened to. I need the assistance of an aerospace engineer, can you help? From: Inger Ane Sletten <[email protected]> Date: January 22, 1997 2:59:12 PM PST To: [email protected] Subject: Error in statement about Estonia. Reply-To: [email protected] I'm a 25 year old computer student from Stavanger, Norway. I've been reading through some of your pages. I've found one error on the page with the URL http://www.corazon.com/mysterywhy.html at claim number 9. The correct information on this subject is that the front door (for loading/unloading vehicles) was torne off. This as a result that the captain of the boat kept a too high speed during a gale. This led to the waves hitting the ferry ripping of the front door and the ferry then beeing flooded. The case was solved. And it is now decided to seal the ferry in concrete on the seabed. Best vishes from J. C. O. From: [email protected] Date: January 22, 1997 1:19:06 PM PST To: [email protected] Subject: Ferry Correction Miss Inger Ane Sletten, thank you very much for your email in regard to ferry door torn off. This actual accident I am not very familiar with and only mentioned it to fill in the thought that doors open when they shouldn't on all sorts of vehicles, including ferries. An interesting thing happened...wonderful people from Europe and Scandanavia, such as yourself, have emailed me with corrections. Anyway, there must be something going on with that accident that is not satisfactory to continue the interest years later. Is it really fully explained? And to enclose that ferry in concrete on the seabed even adds suspicions. Is it shame? I know the Space Shuttle Challenger is entombed in a missile silo at Cape Kennedy and not in a museum where it belongs. Shame. Bad as pride. 9. Ferry door that opened when it shouldn't. An Estonian ferry between Tallin and Helsinki had underwater cargo door open, sank ferry, high loss of life. Cause not determined. Ms Sletten, let us assume you are referring to the above crash, I shall change the cause to be pilot error, going too fast in gale. Do you have more details? Date, deaths, place, nationalities? Before I make the correction, could you confirm it is the same accident? There should be a web site devoted to that accident. As a computer student you could do that. The interest in that ferry crash and all ferries is great. Who is JCO? Best vishes from J. C. O. Below is another email from Europe regarding the ferry, is it the same one? Sincerely, John Barry Smith ....On an Estonian ferry an underwater cargo door opened by accident a few years ago.