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Minutes of the Proceedings Legislative PARLIAMENT OF NEW SOUTH WALES No. 26 MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL THIRD SESSION OF THE FIlTIETH PARLIAMENT WEDNESDAY 13 OCTOBER 1993 1 The House met at 2.30 p.m. pursuant to adjournment. The President took the Chair and read the Prayers. Members present- The Honourable Max Frederick Willis, R.F.D., E.D., LL.B., President The Honourable Franca Arena, A.M. The Honourable Andrew Bruce Manson The Honourable Richard Thomas Marshall Bull The Honourable Douglas Frederick Moppett, B.Sc.Agr. The Honourable Doctor Meredith Anne Burgmann, The Honourable Stephen Bruce Mutch. M.A.. LL.B. M.A.(Syd.). Ph.D.(Macq.) The Honourable Elaine Blanche Nile The Honourable Janice Carolyn Bumswoods. The Revcrend the Honourable Frederick John Nile, B.A.(Hons), Dip.Ed. E.D., L.Th. The Honourable Virginia Anne Chadwick, B.A.. The Honourable Edward Moses Obeid, O.A.M. Dip.Ed. The Honourable Paul Francis O'Grady The Honourable Lloyd Duncan Watt Coleman The Honourable Doctor Brian Patrick Victor Peuutti. The Honourable Ronald David Dyer. Dip.Law, R.F.D.. M.B.. B.S.(Syd.), F.F.A.R.A.C.S.. Dip.Crim. F.A.N.Z.C.A. The Honourable Michael Rueben Egan, B.A. The Honourable Edward Philip Pickering, The Honourable Keith James Enderbury B.Sc.(Chem.Ene.).- ,. F.I.E.Aus1.. F.A.I.E., The Honourable Beryl Alice Evans, B.Ec. M.Aus.1.M.M. The Honourable Patricia Forsythe. B.A., Dip.Ed. The Honourable John Francis Ryan, B.A.(Hons). The Honourable Jennifer Ann Gardiner, B.Bus. Dip.Ed. The Honourable Duncan John Gay The HonourableJames Miltiadii Ssmios. M.B.E., B.A.. The Honourable Doctor Marlene Herbert Goldsmith, LL.B. B.A.. M.Ed.(Hons), Ph.D.(Minn.) The Honourable Helen Wai-Har Sham-Ho, B.A.. The Honourable John Planta Hannaford. LL.B. Dip.Soc.Wk. B.Leg.S. The Honourable Dorothy May Isaksen The HonourableJeffrey William Shaw, Q.C., B.A.. The HonourableJohn Hughes Joblig, Ph.C., M.P.S. LL.B. The Honourable John Richard Johnson The Honourable Robert Baron Rowland Smith The Honourable Richard Stanley Leigh Jones The Honourable Elizabeth Ann Symonds The Honourable James Kaldis The Honourable Bryan Henry Vaughan, LL.B. Thc Honourable Elisabeth Kirkby The Honourable Judith Mary Walker The Honourable Delcia Ivy Kite The Honourable Robert James Webster 276 MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL Wednesday 13 October 1993 2 JOINT STANDING COMMITTEE UPON ROAD SAFETY (Fonnal Business) Mr Hannaford moved, pursuant to Notice: That Mrs Forsythe be discharged from the Joint Standing Committee Upon Road Safety and that Mr Pickering be appointed as a Member of such Committee. Question put and passed. Mr Hannaford then moved: Tdat the following Message be forwarded to the Legislative Assembly: Mr SPEAKER The Legislative Council desires to inform the Legislative Assembly that it has this day agreed to the following Resolution: That Mrs Forsythe be discharged from the Joint Standing Committee Upon Road Safety and that Mr Pickering be appointed as a Member of such Committee. Legislative Council MAX WILLIS 13 October 1993 President Question put and passed. 3 STANDING ORDERS COMMITTEE The President, as Chairinan, tabled a Progress Report from the Standing Orders Committee entitled "Audio and Television Broadcasting of Proceedings". 4 STANDING COMMITTEE UPON PARLIAMENTARY PRIVILEGE The Chairman (Mrs Evans) tabled the Report of the Standing Committee Upon Parliamentary Privilege entitled "The Broadcasting of Sound Recordings of Excerpts of Proceedings of the Legislative Council", dated September 1993. Ordered: That the Report be printed. Mrs Evans, by leave, made a statement in relation to the Report. 5 JOINT STANDING COMMITTEE UPON ROAD SAFETY Mrs Evans (on behalf of the Chairman) tabled report No. 20 of the Joint Standing Committee upon Road Safety entitled "Alcohol and Other Drugs on New South Wales Roads-Part 11-Offences, Penalties and the Management and Rehabilitation of Convicted Drivers". Ordered: That the Report be printed. Mrs Evans also tabled the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee. Mrs Evans, by leave, made a statement in relation to the Report. Mrs Walker, by leave, also made a statement in relation to the Report. 277 MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL Wednesday 13 October 1993 6 PETITIONS Anti-Discrimination Legislation on Homosexual Vilification Mr O'Grady presented a petition from 270 citizens of New South Wales expressing concern over discrimination and vilification against homosexuals and people affected in some way by HIV and AIDS, and praying that the House support those schedules of the proposed Anti-Discnmination(Amcndment) Bill 1993, which makes this form of discrimination unlawful. Petition received. Disorderly Houses (I) Mrs Nile presented a petition from 132 citizens of New South Wales expressing concern that brothels are associated with disease, exploitation, illegal drug abuse. corruption and organised crime, and praying that the House take no steps to legalise brothels and ensure that the Disorderly Houses Act is fully enforced to close all brothels in New South Wales. Petition received. (2) Revd Mr Nilepresented a petition from 241 citizens of New South Wales containinga similar prayer. Petition received. 7 NOTICES OF MOTIONS 8 NOTICE OF MOTION WITHDRAWN Mrs Nile withdrew General Business Notice of Motion No. 2 standing in her name on the Notice Paper for today relating to the Rape and Sexual Assault (Damages) Bill. 9 MINISTERIAL STATEMENT-CHANGES IN ADMJNISTRATION Mr Hannaford informed the House that on 6 October 1993. His Excellency the Governor appointed the Honourable J.A. Longley, M.P., as Minister for the Ageing. On the same date His Excellency appointed the Honourable W.S. Machin, M.P., as Minister Assisting the Minister for Transport. The Honourable J.A. Longley, M.P., will retain his existing Commissions of appointment and will now be known as Minister for Community Services, Minister for Aboriginal Affairs, and Minister for the Ageing. The Honourable W.S. Machin, M.P., will retain her existing Commissions of appointment and will now be known as Minister for Consumer Affairs. Minister Assisting the Minister for Roads, and Minister Assisting the Minister for Transport. 278 MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL Wednesday 13 October 1993 10 BUSINESS POSTPONED (1) Notice of Motion No. I on the Notice Paper of Business of the House postponed, on motion of Mr Hannaford, until next sitting day. (2) Notice of Motion No. 2 on the Notice Paper of Government Business postponed, on motion of Mr Hannaford, until next sitting day. 11 BUDGET ESTIMATES Order of the Day read for resumption of the adjourned debate of the question on the motion of Mr Hannaford: That the House take note of the Budget Estimates and related papers for the financial year 1993-94. Debate resumed. Pursuant to Sessional Order, proceedings interrupted at 4.00 p.m. for Questions. 12 QUESTIONS 13 COMMITTEE ON THE OFFICE OF THE OMBUDSMAN The President reported the following Message from the Legislative Assembly: Mr PRESIDENT The Legislative Assembly desires to acquaint the Legislative Council that it ha^ this day agreed to the following resolution: That Barry John Morris be discharged from attendance upon the Committee on the Office of the Ombudsman and that Andrew Humpherson be appointed to serve on such Committee. Legislative Assembly K.R. ROZZOLI 13 October 1993 Speaker 14 BUDGET ESTIMATES Order of the Day read for resumption of the interrupted debate of the question on the motion of Mr Hannaford: That the House take note of the Budget Estimates and related papers for the financial year 1993-94. Debate resumed. Motion made (Ms Kirkby) and question: That this debate be now adjourned until a later hour of the sittineput and passed. 279 MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL Wednesdav 13 October 1993 -- 15 ESTIMATES COMMlTTEES Upon the Order of the Day being read for consideration of the Legislative Assembly's Messages of 16 September 1993 and 12 October 1993, Mr Hannaford moved: That: (I) The following Estimates Committees be appointed: (a) The Legislature Estimates Committee; (b) Premier and Economic Development Estimates Committee; (c) Treasury and Arts Estimates Committee; (d) Agriculture and Fisheries and Mines Estimates Committee; (e) Attorney General and Justice Estimates Committee; (f) Chief Secretary and Administrative Services Estimates Committee; (g) Community Services and Aboriginal Affairs Estimates Committee; (h) Consumer Affairs Estimates Committee; (i) Education and Youth Affairs and Tourism Estimates Committee; (j) Environment Estimates Committee; (k) Multicultural and Ethnic Affairs Estimates Committee; (1) Health Estimates Committee; (m) Industrial Relations and Employment and Status of Women Estimates Committee; (n) Police and Emergency Services Estimates Committee; (0) Energy and Local Government and Co-operatives Estimates Committee; (p) Land and Water Conservation Estimates Committee; (q) Planning and Housing Estimates Committee; (r) Public Works and Ports Estimates Committee; (s) Sport, Recreation and Racing Estimates Committee; (t) Transport and Roads Estimates Committee; and (u) Small Business and Regional Development Estimates Committee. (2) The following Members be appointed to the Estimates Committees: (a) The Legislature Estimates Committee; Government Members-Mrs Evans and Mr Ryan Opposition Members-Mr Johnson and Mr O'Grady NonGovernment Member-Revd Mr Nile (b) Premier and Economic Development Estimates Committee; Government Members-Mr Jobling and Dr Pezzutti Opposition
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