JOURNALS OF THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF THE PROVINCE OF BRITISH COLUMBIA
SECOND SESSION 1973
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THREE O'CLOCK P.M.
This being the first day of the third meeting of the Thirtieth Parliament or Legislative Assembly of the Province of British Columbia for the dispatch of business, pursuant to a Proclamation of the Honourable JOHN L. FARRIS, Adminis- trator of the Province, dated the 31st day of July 1973, the members took their seats.
Prayers by the Rev. G r S r , B.C., B.D.
The Honourable WALTER S. OWEN, Q.C., LL.D., Lieutenant-Governor of the Province, having entered the House, took his seat on the Throne, and was pleased to deliver the following gracious Speech:
Mr. Sp r nd M b r f th l t v A bl : Although I officiated at the closing of the Spring Session of the Legislative Assembly, this is the first time that I have had occasion as Lieutenant-Governor to address you on the opening day. I express the earnest hope that the wise counsel of my Ministers, and the support of Legislature, will result in continued progress and development for our Province during my term of office. I desire to express at this time, on your behalf and on that of all British Columbia, our gratitude to my predecessor, Colonel the Honourable John R. Nicholson, for his unselfish and devoted service to the people of our Province. Last May I was pleased to administer the Oaths of Office to the Honourable Graham Richard Lea, Minister of Highways; the Honourable Gary Vernon Lauk, Minister of Industrial Development, Trade, and Commerce; the Honourable Jack Radford, Minister of Recreation and Conservation; the Honourable Lorne Nicolson, Member of the Executive Council Without Portfolio; and to the Honourable Phyllis Florence Young, Member of the Executive Council Without Portfolio. During the past year our Province welcomed a number of distinguished visitors. I note that in April the Right Honourable E. G. Whitlam, Prime Minister of Australia, was in Vancouver, and was welcomed to the Province by the Honourable the Premier. On June 23 and June 24, Mrs. Indira Gandhi, Prime Minister of India, visited Vancouver and Victoria and was a guest at Government House. In August the Right Honourable Lord Mais, the Lord Mayor of London, and the 2 SE EM E d M , p nt v r l d n th r v n t f th r v n l G v rn nt nd th r t pr d th r n r nd th r th f th l xt nd d t th b ll th h th nt nt t. W r l h n r d n A t th v t t t r b th ht n r bl r n E. K r , r M n t r f l nd, nd Mr . K r . It pl r t l , n th r , t th A bl th ft rn n t d t n h d t z n f r t h C l b , Ch f nd Mr . W ll M tth f th d n t n f th Q n Ch rl tt I l nd . In A t, r t h C l b h t d, n W t n t r nd rn b , th S nd C n d S r G . h nd f thl t fr ll th pr v n nd th rr t r p t d nd th G r n t t nd n . I pl d t b rv th t r n r v n d d r r bl ll n th G nd r d l r d th nn r . h d th rr d n l 2 , , f th ht n r bl St ph n St. r nt. Mr. St. r nt rv d r M n t r f C n d fr v b r , 48, nt l n 2 , . W ll r b r th d t n h d rv th t h r nd r d t C n d nd rn h p n . W ll A l t n , h f r r M n t r f M n , M n t r f r d nd Ind tr , nd M n t r f b r, d d n A t 2 , . Mr. A l t n l t d fr th Atl n El t r l tr t nd rv d th r v n ll. t n th n r bl W ll Andr C l nn tt r n d M b r f r th S th O n n El t r l tr t n th l t v A bl . Mr. nn tt rv d th r v n f r n r M b r f th l t v A bl nd f r 20 r r r f th r v n . At th t I ld l t p p l tr b t t Mr. nn tt f r th r t ntr b t n h d t th r v n , nd t h h ll. At th b l t n h ld l t , W ll h rd nn tt l t d t r pr nt th S th O n n El t r l tr t. I xt nd b t h t th n l l t d b r h ll t h pl h rtl n th . h p t f nth n I pr r d th n Apr l 8 l t h v b n v ntf l, b t n n l t n f G v rn nt ll h v r p rt n th n t p rt p t n n th W t rn Opp rt n t C nf r n n C l r l t l . h t n f r t M n t r f C n d nd th W t rn r v n n f nt, n t nl f r th pr d nt th t t, b t f r th l r nd n t bl t rt t n r l n C nf d r t n f r th W t. C n d , th W t, nd r r v n n p rt l r, h ld f l pr d f th r l M n t r pl d n th t C nf r n nd r nf d nt th t th n t n , th n t th rn , r ll f r r n t n. S pp rt n th n thr t I pl d t pr f r ll n b r f r t h C l b n h h v d n f nt d n t n f l nd t th Cr n. h t n fr th p n r f l p h hl f th r l v f r th r v n , nd th r t rn f th l nd t th p pl , G v rn nt h p f l th t th ll b pr t nd th r r t h C l b n ll l t th lfl t n nd n r r n t r l h r t thr h r r n p r t . I th r f r pl d t xpr r r t t d t hn nd C r l n r nh , Mr . . W. St rr tt, r n n h d, Cl ff rd A. nd r th A. G rb , nr G rd n l , Mr . M r r t n r , nd n n n d n r h v v r l r f l nd n r p . ntl , G v rn nt h n f t t r th M n l v l f th r v n , t pr v n f r pr r f fr pr r pt n dr f r th ld rl , nd t xt nd th b n f t f n n r nt t n f r t z n 22 E z. 2 SE EM E between 60 and 65. We trust that these unprecedented moves will be recognized by our sister provinces and Canada and that our Social Security and Health programmes will be fully supported. In Ottawa last May, my Premier addressing his first Federal-Provincial Con- ference forecast my Government's concern and interest by directing all Canadians' attention to these Social Security and Health problems. Whatever may have been the inadequacies of the past, my Government desires to bring a new direction for British Columbia inside the Canadian Confederation and looks forward to open lines of communication with the Federal Government and provincial governments to ensure the co-operation and understanding which is necessary to meet the chal- lenges of the day. In many cases these can best be met without undue regard to hard and fast jurisdictional lines so as to develop and execute national and pro- vincial goals and policies designed to build a better Canada and provide a more meaningful life for all Canadians. Two of these national programmes which require a joint commitment by both levels of Government and a high degree of Federal-Provincial co-operation are the Social Security System in Canada and Health Care. Since the close of the Second Session many of the Standing Committees of the House have been very active and the results of their labours will be before you shortly. I am confident that their work and advice, based on a real dialogue with our citizens, will provide an excellent base for legislative action. In this Session you will be asked to direct your attention firstly to the urgent problems of agriculture and labour. My Government has undertaken considerable study and evaluation of this Province's agriculture industry. The very real problems of world food shortages and rising food costs, coupled with high investment costs and low farm income, are most apparent, and positive measures must be taken to strengthen and expand this vital food industry. The significance of the British Columbia agriculture and food industry to the ever-changing economy of this Province cannot be overlooked, and action must be prompt to ease the problems involved. Therefore, you will be asked to consider legislation designed to rationalize credit systems of primary agriculture, and to encourage secondary and tertiary agriculture industries. The Government intends to join with producers to minimize the effect of price fluctuation at the market place, and to provide means of achieving some stabilization of farm income. New measures will be introduced which will provide for debt protection for the family farm under certain distress circumstances, due to natural calamities such as adverse weather. More control over the possible introduction and spread of infectious and contagious animal diseases will be considered. These measures and others are to be presented for your consideration for the specific intent of providing incentive and encouragement to the agriculture industry of this Province. You will be asked to consider a new Labour Code for British Columbia which will establish an improved framework for collective bargaining and dispute settle- ment. Industrial relations is essentially a term descriptive of human relations in the work environment. Healthy co-operative human relationships cannot be built on punitive concepts, distrust, or an unyielding bureaucracy, and remain compatible with a free society. The Legislation, combining many statutes, will offer a variety of positive aids to collective bargaining which will be conciliatory in nature. Similarly, more 4 SE EM E ff t v h n r ll b t bl h d t n r th t ttl nt f d p t ll r n j t nd xp d t nn r, fr fr d r pt n t th n . C pl t l n n pt r t b p t f r rd n n ff rt t pr v th nd tr l r l t n l t n th r v n . h l t n ll l r n z th n t t f nd v d l r l b l f . A p r t f p r t n ll b r r d b ll th d d t d t fr ll t v b r n n t t h th n thr t nd th l t n ll nt n r l nd p t v h ll n t ll t r f r n t t th bj t v tt n d. A pr d r d n th n f th p n n f th S nd S n f th 0th rl nt n n r , r ndf l f th h h l v l f xp t t n th t r t z n h v fr v rn nt r th n t n. t th xp t t n v r nn n nt f G v rn nt pl n h v b n d n th t t . A rd n l , n t p rt nt f ld , n l C n r Aff r nd n , ll b d t n d r d p rt nt l A t nd p r d r n th n xt f . In dd t n, th r ll b n xt n v l l t v pr r fr th p rt nt f M n , nd f rth r nd nt t b th th Public Schools Act nd th Municipal Act. n n l l t n ll n b ff r d f r nd nt t pr v d pr v d b n f t f r d f p r nn nt . h bl S rv b r l t n ll ntr d d n th l t S n ll b br ht f r rd n f r r n d r t n. h ll , t th r th th r th t ll b f rth n , r fl t th r n pl x t nd b rd n f G v rn nt n th h ll n n t . Y r dv ll b r r d r fr ntl pr d t d l t n r . Y r r , t th r th th p rt nt r f th St nd n C tt f th , t pr d th l t n t th pr r nd pr bl th t r t z n h v nd, ll, t n r th t th v f ll r t z n r h rd l d nd l r thr h th r l l t r . h n r n nd d r f ll r p pl t pr t t r r v n h n nd h r v r nv r n nt l d r nt n n nd pr n f r n ll r nd v r . h p bl r n nd r t nd n f th p rt n f l l tt r d nd th t th f ll t nv t t n nd d l t pl ll b f r n pr p d v nt. A rd n l , th G v rn nt h d pl n t n f ll d l n n r r . At th nd f th r n r ll t rt th d l nd G v rn nt h n r d th t n th f r t v nt ll p nt f v n n l r p r r r pr nt d. h G v rn nt h nv t d r f r nn Alfv n, l In t t t f hn l , p rt nt f l h , St h l , S d n . . Gr , r d nt, At En r f C n d td., Ott nd r. hn G f n, C rd d n , d M d l S t , bl n, C l f rn , t tt nd th n r n n l r p r— t dv nt , d n r , t , nd lt rn t r f n r . All t z n ll h v t th t n . It G v rn nt h p th t th pr ll b th b nn n f n th d f n r n nd f l t t n t z n p rt p t n. Mr. Sp r nd n r bl M b r , I l v n . I pr th t v n d n ll tt nd r l b r .
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On the motion of the Hon. A. B. Macdonald, Bill (No. 1) intituled Married Persons Equality Act was introduced, read a first time, and Ordered to be placed on the Orders of the Day for second reading at the next sitting after today. Mr. Chabot moved adjournment of the House to discuss a matter of urgent public importance relating to the British Columbia Railway. Mr. Speaker stated that Standing Order 35, pursuant to which the honourable member sought leave to move adjournment of the House, contemplated an ordinary daily routine of business, but that on opening day the House was engaged in pro forma matters only. Mr. Speaker further stated that an opportunity to discuss the matter raised by the Honourable Member for Columbia River would be available shortly, namely during the debate on the Speech from the Throne. On the motion of the Hon. David Barrett, it was Ordered— That the Speech of His Honour the Lieutenant-Governor be taken into con- sideration at the next sitting of the House, and that this Order have precedence over all other business, except introduction of Bills, until disposed of. On the motion of the Hon. Ernest Hall, it was Ordered— That the Votes and Proceedings of this House be printed, being first perused by Mr. Speaker, and that he do appoint the printing thereof, and that no person but such as he shall appoint do presume to print the same.
On the motion of the Hon. David Barrett, it was Ordered— That the Select Standing Committees of this House as provided in Standing Order 68 (1) be appointed for the present Session, which said Committees shall severally be empowered to examine and inquire into all such matters and things as shall be referred to them by this House, and to report from time to time their observations and opinions thereon, with power to send for persons, papers, and records, and that a Special Committee be appointed to prepare and report with all convenient speed lists of members to compose the Select Standing Committees of this House under Standing Order 68 (1), said Committee to be composed of the Hon. A. B. Macdonald, the Hon. R. M. Strachan, and Messrs. Dent, Richter, and D. A. Anderson; provided that the members of the Standing Committees (1) on Agriculture; (2) on Forestry and Fisheries; (3) on Municipal Matters; and (4) on Social Welfare and Education be named after the said Committees appointed at the last Session shall have severally made their respective reports to the House. On the motion of Mrs. D. Webster, it was Ordered— That Hartley Douglas Dent, Member for Skeena Electoral District, be appointed Deputy Speaker for this Session of the Legislative Assembly. By leave of the House, on the motion of the Hon. David Barrett, the Rules were suspended and it was Ordered— That Report No. 9 of the Select Standing Committee on Standing Orders and Private Bills, adopted by this House on February 27, 1973, relating to Oral Ques- tions be adopted by this House for the present Session. 6 SE EM E 4
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r r b th v. H. M. Hunter.
Mr. Chabot v d dj rn nt f th t d tt r f r nt p bl p rt n r l t n t th r t h C l b l . Mr. Sp r r f rr d t th rn l f th , 6 , t p , h r n Mr. Sp r M rr t t d th t ". . . th r n t n h b n r f d h n n rd n r p rl nt r pp rt n t ll r h rtl , p r tt n th t n t b d b t d." Mr. Sp r xpr d h p n n th t th pr ntl n d n th hr n d b t , h h d b t h d pr r t v r ll th r b n ( x pt ntr d t n f ll , th pp rt n t t d b t th tt r lr d x t d.
Mr. G. H. Anderson v d, nd d b M . Sanford— h t th f ll n Addr b pr nt d t n r th t n nt G v rn r: 22 E z. 2 SE EM E
"We, Her Majesty's most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Legislative Assembly of British Columbia, in Session assembled, beg leave to thank Your Honour for the gracious Speech which Your Honour has addressed to us at the opening of the present Session." A debate arose. On the motion of Mr. Chabot, the debate was adjourned to the next sitting of the House.
Resolved, That the House, at its rising, do stand adjourned until 2 o'clock p.m. on Monday next.
And then the House adjourned at 10.48 a.m.
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Prayers by the Rev. W. J. Hill.
By leave of the House, the Hon. W. S. King (Minister of Labour) made a statement relative to the settlement of the strike on the British Columbia Railway.
The Hon. D. G. Cocke presented to Mr. Speaker a Message from His Honour the Lieutenant-Governor, which read as follows: WALTER S. OWEN Lieutenant-Governor The Lieutenant-Governor transmits herewith Bill (No. 2) intituled An Act to Amend the Medical Grant Act, and recommends the same to the Legislative Assembly. Government House, September 14, 1973
By leave of the House, Bill introduced and read a first time. Second reading at the next sitting after today.
Order called for "Oral Questions by Members."
Pursuant to Order, the House resumed the adjourned debate on the Address in reply to the Speech of His Honour the Lieutenant-Governor at the opening of the Session. The debate continued. On the motion of the Hon. W. S. King, the debate was adjourned to the next sitting of the House. 8 SE EM E 8
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Resolved, That the House, at its rising, do stand adjourned until 2 o'clock p.m. tomorrow.
Ms. Brown presented the Final Report of the Select Standing Committee on Social Welfare and Education, as follows:
REPORT LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE Room, September 18, 1973 MR. SPEAKER: Your Select Standing Committee on Social Welfare and Education begs leave to report as follows: The Standing Committee on Social Welfare and Education was called together on May 8 to study: 1. The present system of delivery of home care and related health services in this Province as follows: (a) To ascertain the relationship of reduced acute-care hospitalization and home care; and (b) To ascertain the relationship of need for extended care or special care where home care is provided. 2. Home care with a view to co-ordinating activities of the voluntary sector, the Health Department, and activities of the Department of Rehabilitation and Social Improvement. 3. Consider financing of all levels of home care. 4. Complete, as may be deemed necessary, the consideration of any matters referred to the said Committee during the present session of the Legislative Assembly. The Committee sat a total of 14 days, from May 8 to 31, 1973. It visited eight towns and heard 150 presentations and briefs. As a result of these hearings the Committee has established that a properly integrated home care service can bring about the more orderly use of hospital beds at all levels of care. The key to the success of any programme, however, lies in the concept of "proper integra- tion." No one programme or indeed number of programmes developed in isolation will achieve the desired goals. Consequently, "proper integration" must include co-ordination of all services, equitable coverage for all levels of care, expanded health care facilities, the training and the better use of available as well as addi- tional personnel, in the delivery of the service. This report has been divided into the five sections which represent the areas in which this Committee has decided to make its major recommendations. In addition, the Committee recognized that certain presentations made were outside its venue, accepted these presentations, and would like to submit some additional recommendations for the consideration of this House. The five major recommendations are: 1. Home care programmes should be developed, particularly in the urban areas of British Columbia so that patients who can be treated efficiently at home will not be admitted to acute care hospitals unnecessarily and so that patients in acute care hospitals can be discharged sooner to complete treatment at home. 2. The provision of intermediate care must be given highest priority by the Provincial Government.
0 SEPTEMBER 18 . h per diem v r f ll p t nt n t r , xt nd d r , r nt r d t r (r rdl f h th r th r n n n t t t n r t h h ld b t bl . A ll, p t nt tr t d t h h ld n t b p n l z d nd th n r pr f n l r f n r , ph th r p t , t hn n , nd d t r , t th r th dr nd ppl n , t b pr v d d t th t t th p t nt ld ppl f th p t nt r n n t r h p t l. 4. h G v rn nt h ld pr v d p l t t fr tr n n pr r f r th t d nt n d l, p r d l, nd r l t d f ld , h p n r d t n ld b ll n t pt n nt t n f th nd r r n rv d r f th r v n . . h pr p r nd nt n d rd n t n f ll h lth d t n nd h n r r rv t b nd rt n.
OME CA E hr h t th h r n f th lth C tt n pr n nt p n th x t n p f h p t l f l t nt n d n nd n n v r n t v t d. h t p th l f ppr pr t f l t f r th pr v n f nt r d t r nd th l f n r v n l G v rn nt f n n l t n t th p t nt r v n nt r d t r , nl th r n r pt f l t n . Unt l r nt r t tr d t n l th t l t ll p t nt r r n n t p f h p t l r r d tt d nd tr t d n n t n r l h p t l, ll d. h p t nt r n d th r fr th n t f th t lln thr h ll ph n l d n nv l n . W th th tr nd n r n th t f b ld n nd p r t n t r h p t l , t h b l r th t n rd r t ff nt nd n l f h xp n v f l t nd n rd r t t l z t xp r d ll r l , nl p t nt n n d f t r h ld b tr t d th r . Wh n th tr l t ph f th lln h p d, th p t nt h ld b tr t d n th r ppr pr t f l t h r th r pr v d d nd th t f th t r r n r t th th n d f th p t nt. W th th r l z t n h th l r r r n th t p t nt ff r fr d ff r n l v l r nt n t f lln h h, rd n l , r r d ff r n l v l r nt n t f r , n d ff r n t p f h p t l. In br f, th h ll n t pl nn r f h lth rv t pr v d th ppr pr t l v l f r r r d b th p t nt, n th ppr pr t t p f h p t l r f l t f r th ppr pr t l n th f t , n r , n l . A r lt f th n pt d ff r n l v l f r h v b n d f n d f ll : Definitions A. Acute care—For p t nt r r n nt n ph n nd pr f n l n r n r n n nv r n nt pr v d n p l d n t nd tr t nt f l t . B. Activation and rehabilitation—For p t nt h n b n f t fr pl nn d nd nt n v pr r r ph l r h b l t t n. C. Extended care—For p t nt r r n pr l n d ll d n r n rv 24 h r d . D. Intermediate care—For p t nt r r n 24 h r d p r n l r b t n t 24 h r d ll d n r n rv .
• E t bl — h r t r z d b t nd f rn ( r f n d b h Sh rt r Oxf rd En l h t n r , Oxf rd: h Cl r nd n r , 6 .
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E. rd n h — r individuals requiring a protected environment with- out any medical services other than those usually provided for the general population. It can well be argued that the levels of care as defined are artificial and that the condition of patients cannot be placed into such clearcut compartments. h nd f b r r t ppr h, h v r, h b n f r d p n pr v n l v rn tn nt f r th v r p rf l r n th t th d r l G v rn nt h r th t f t nd xt nd d r f ft f ft th th pr v n l v rn nt . In order to decide the cases in which the costs will be shared by the Federal Government, some kind of classification and definition (however imperfect), of the care needed, has to be used. The resulting injustice which exists today is that patients receiving acute care or extended care pay $1 per day (the remainder p r d cost ranging from $20 to $75 is paid by B.C. Hospital Insurance Service from tax-collected dollars). Patients requiring intermediate care receive no financial assistance what- ever from the B.C. Hospital Insurance Service, unless they are in receipt of Social Assistance, in which case the Department of Human Resources pays the cost. The patient in the middle income group is severely penalized by having to pay the total cost, ranging from $400 per month upwards. At every town where hearings were held, it was made abundantly clear that there is a shortage of facilities for the provision of intermediate care and that very few patients can afford, for any length of time, to pay the costs involved of several hundred dollars per month. Time and time again the inequitable financing arrange- ments which now exist to favour the acute or extended care patients as compared to the intermediate care patients were emphasized. The outstanding inequity lies in the fact that the wealthy and the welfare recipient can receive the kind of care they require without serious financial difficulty, but patients in the middle income group requiring intermediate care are compelled to use up their life's savings. Spouses are often compelled to sell the family home to meet the cost of the required care. The Committee was unanimous in its opinion that such an inequitable situa- tion must end and that of all the proposals for improved health services to be brought forward by the Committee, the recommendations regarding intermediate care must be given the highest priority by the Provincial Government. The Committee learned of the importance of locating different levels of care reasonably close to one another and where possible in the same building complex, since patients, as their condition changes, require to move from one facility to another. More specifically, this means that facilities should be located close to one another and in the ideal situation, the complex should provide a combination of self-care accommodation with some minimal supervision, intermediate care and extended care, the total complex being located in a fairly central part of the community, with proximity to shops, services, bus routes, and recreational facilities. This kind of desirable complex is exemplified by the project presently being developed in Penticton. When the patient proceeds with the passage of time to require a greater degree of care and supervision he or she can move from one facility to another within that complex, but still retain the companionship and support of friends living nearby. Easy access of friends and relatives to the elderly is a most important human consideration in the planning of appropriate facilities for ll our senior citizens whether or not they require some measure of nursing care. 2 SE EM E 8 Wh r n npr f t r n z t n t n t t v b b ld n nt r d t r f l t , r t r h ld b t n t pr v nt nr n bl h h d bt h r d n tr t d v r l rl t th C tt n th x pl f th Uph ll n rn . Nursing Homes r n h r r pr r t n d r t n. It l r t th C tt fr t h r n th t th p t nt h h n h b t t r n n r n h v t f d r n t n n p r n t th p t nt r v n r n n t r r xt nd d r h p t l. t nl th f n n l b rd n v r , b t n n r l (th r r x pt n th n t t t n r n t r d t d b n p r v r b d t th t nd rd f r pr v d d. h r t f . . t p t nt l th n th t n t nd xt nd d r h p t l , h l n n . . t ff r n r ll l ll tr n d nd h v l xp r n . h b , n n r l, th n nl p d t th n r n d , f t h h n t rn l d t fr nt t rn v r n t ff n th n r n h . h fr nt t rn v r f t ff h v r ff t n th ld rl h n t nl n d nd d p nd p n th pp rt f f l r f , b t l r r nt n t nd n t n n th p tt rn f th r r . A n r n h pr r h b n n ff t n Alb rt f r v r l r , h h pr v d h h l t r nd f n n l t n t p t nt t t th t . S v r l t z n pp r n b f r th C tt nt d p n nd pr d th bv r t f th Alb rt r n r r It p r t n b n npr f t r n z t n th n r n l z d tt n ll b nt n d n th r nd t n f th C tt . In th f ld f intermediate care t d ff lt t r th x t n nt f n t n d, r t pr j t th t d l n r n n d h h r lt fr n v r n r n rv v l f th ld rl t z n , d t d l nd nt f dv n . S x t n d t n r rd, h v r, nd t t n b pr j t d f r th dd t n l nn l t t th r v n l G v rn nt, f nt r d t r v r r t b pr v d d (see App nd x I . A fl n tr n t l l t t , r l t t th n t n d n r r v n t d . r n C tt h r n t b l r n p r n r ll r r n r f n r n r n n nt r d t r f l t , r pr ntl b n l d ft r n v r r d nt l f l t nd b rd n h , ll b th ld rl p r n nn t ff rd th t f n r n h . h r ll d n d th l v l f n r n r nd p rv n pr v d d n n r n h . If G v rn nt n r n v r r d v l bl f r nt r d t r , th r ld nd bt dl r n b r f ld rl p r n , h r r th t l v l f r b t r pr ntl b t n b t th n, n th r t p f d t n h r th r n r l l v l f r d n t t th r n d . h n b r pr b bl l th n b r pr ntl r v n nt r d t r n th n r n h nd pr v t h p t l n th r v n , th t ,200. It p bl , h v r, t d f n th f r r t l , b t h ppr x t f r h ld b n d r d h n tt pt n t l l t th t f pr v d n nt r d t r f r ll t z n h n n l r r t. U f l d t ld b bt n d fr th xp r n f th Alb rt r n r r Present Methods of Financing h C tt h rd v r nt r nd th r v n r rd n th pr nt th d f f n n n xt nd d r , n h h th p t nt p $ p r d , h n th t l t v r $2 p r d . 22 E z. 2 SE EM E 8 Ext nd d r pr v d f r ll th nt l n d f th p t nt, th th x pt n f p r n l xp n h l th , t thp t , h p , t l ph n ll , r d n t r l , nd th l . h nt l h f d, h lt r, h t, l ht, dr , n r n , nd d l r r pr v d d f r $ p r d . h rt nl ld t v th xt nd d r p t nt r t f n n l dv nt , f r x pl , v r n ld rl h b nd nd f , tr n t t ll th r n d n $400 p r nth, h l l v n n th r n h nd p n ll th b ll f r f d, h lt r, h t, nd l ht. S p r n pp r n b f r th C tt f lt th t th $ p r d h r t th p t nt f r xt nd d r ld b n r d th t h rd h p t th p t nt. v r, th C tt r th t th ld ppl nl h r th p t nt nd p ( r d p nd nt h r v $200 p r nth. If xt nd d r p t nt n th t r r t p l r r fr t n f th t l t f th r r , th n r d ntr b t n ld b v l bl t f n n th t f pr v d n nt r d t r v r n n r n h . In tt pt n t br n b t f r t bl f n n n f ll l v l f h p t l r , th r v n l G v rn nt h ld l r v th pr nt p t nt ntr b t n p r d f r t r .
Recommendations . h r v n l G v rn nt h ld pr v d f n n l v r f r nt r d t r pr ntl b n pr v d d n n r n h nd pr v t h p t l . 2. h Alb rt r n r r , h v n b n n f l p r t n f r v r l r , h ld b t d d l l . M b r f th S l t St nd n C tt h ld v t Alb rt , nd th th r d p r t n f th Alb rt G v rn nt, th pr r b d l f r l r pr r n r t h C l b . . p t l r f l t h ld n t b p r t d f r pr v t f n n l n. th nd, th r v n l G v rn nt n p r t n th n npr f t b d h ld b r p n bl f r th pr v n f nt r d t r f l t . h p t l t ld b pr v d d n th f r l x t f r t nd xt nd d r n t , n l r v n l G v rn nt p 60 p r nt nd l l r 40 p r nt. h f l t ld b p r t d n th b x t n t nd xt nd d r f l t , b l l b rd f n nt p d f b r l t d l ll nd pp nt d b l l b d nd n p l t . h f l t ld nd r th t n n p t n nd p r v n f t nd rd t nd xt nd d r h p t l . l nn n nd nt r t n f h f l t f r h r n h ld b nd r th d r t n f r n l h p t l b rd , n pl nn n nd r t n f h f l t b t n nt r l p rt f th ff t v pl nn n nd r t n f all th r r d h p t l f l t f r h r n.
Coverage h h l p rp f h p t l n r n t n r th t h h l t r v l bl t ll h n d t, nd th t n p t nt h ll ff r f n n l h rd h p r lt. h C tt pr p th t xt nd d r nd nt r d t r v r b d v l bl t l f n p t nt t n t bl t p r d t th p t nt.
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r S rv r n nd d l r pr v d d n th h tt n n nt r l p rt f th t t l r n f rv h h h ld b v l bl t p t nt n r pr nt t . r r pr nt b t n l v l f r n th t t l n b r f l v l f r , lr d d f n d. It n p rt nt l v l f r f r t p f r n . On , t ft n th t ppr pr t pl f r th tr t nt, n h th t th p t nt t nt nt d nd t f rt bl n h r h r n h nd th t l l t r p nd ll nd ndl , n tt pt n t p nd th h lth r d ll r n th t j d nd n l f h n, f h r v l bl t n th t th r th p t nt v d th d r pt n nd xp n v xp r n f b n d tt d t h p t l, r n n h p t l b bl t b d h r d n r th n th r , th n th t r b d v l bl f r n th r p t nt h r ll n d t. In r nt r p t nt h v b n l d t b l v th t th n nl b tr t d pr p rt nd ff ntl th n th nf n f n t r h p t l. h tr nl f th r t l ll, b t ll lln r n t t nd t lln n th r f tr t nt b l t nd l t r nv l nt, t h h t t b r n bl nd n ll nd t tr t th p t nt n th h , pr v d d th ppr pr t n r n , d l, nd p r d l pp rt rv r d v l bl t th p t nt nd f l . A t t d rl r, d rn h lth r pr r t pr v d th ppr pr t l v l f r , n th ppr pr t f l t , f r th ppr pr t l n th f t . Wh n b ppr pr t f r th p t nt t l v th t r h p t l, t r n l n r b n n d d, th p t nt h ld n t b p n l z d f n n ll b r v n th b t f nv l nt r n th h . It n t t bl f th p t nt, p n $ p r d n th h p t l, f d th th t f n r n , ph th r p t, nd p r d l rv nt n t b t $2 p r d n th h . r nt p l t pr r pr v d n h r n rt n p rt f r t h C l b h v pr v d n l v l th t p t nt n b d h r d rl r fr t h p t l f th ppr pr t n r n , d l, nd p r d l rv r d v l bl n th h . h d f n f th p l t pr r th t th ppl nl t p t nt h r l v n h p t l. h pr r d n t ppl t p t nt h r ll d n t n d t b d tt d t h p t l f th r r d h r rv r v l bl t th n th f r t pl . Ev d n pr v d d t th tt n t h r n n v r l ntr , d t v r l r th t f h r rv r v l bl t rth h l r lt ld f ll . On , n p t nt h ht th r b d tt d t n t r b d ld b tr t d f rt bl , ff ntl t h nd ndl , p t nt h r ll d d r r n t r b d ld b d h r d n r t pl t th r tr t nt t h . th f th r lt r nt r l nt n nt p n th n r n r n , d l, nd p r d l rv b n d v l bl n th h , t n f n n l p n lt t th p t nt, p r d t th p t nt xp n h l n h p t l. It d l r t th tt r p t dl th t th x t n t t n n h h th h p t l p t nt p $ p r d f r t t l r , d n t n r , n f t d r , th p t nt fr pl t n tr t nt t h h r th t f n r n , ph th r p , nd d t n b t l t $2 p r d . h f r ll b l th d l t f t r , h h n th t f n v r nd t r n r nd $ p r d . 22 Euz. 2 SE EM E 8
In rural areas where the personnel required to provide the skilled home ser- vices may have to travel long distances, the net cost, if the registered nurse, the physiotherapist, the family physician, and homemaker are all involved, may well exceed the daily cost of care in the acute hospital. Experience shows that in such rural areas it would not only be more difficult to provide the required personnel, but the cost, depending on the range of home services required, might exceed the cost of acute hospital care. In the urban areas, however, an integrated home care programme would un- doubtedly enable more patients to be treated effectively and comfortably in their homes. These costs of home care must be met by Government financing in the same way that the patient's costs while in the acute care hospital are covered. If home care programmes are adopted widely, one important consequence to the acute hospitals must be recognized. Patients when they are no longer acutely ill would be discharged to home care. Consequently, all or almost all of the pa- tients in the acute care hospital would indeed be acutely ill and would require a great deal of care from nurses and paramedical personnel. There would thus be a need to increase the number of trained personnel, nurses, technicians, physio- therapists, and related professionals to cope with the needs of the patients, all of whom would be in the acute phase of their illness. This would clearly result in an increase in the cost of operating acute care hospitals. However, such hospitals are the most expensive to build and the most expensive to equip, but if all the patients in acute care hospitals were in fact acutely ill then this would represent the most efficient use of such expensive facilities and equipment. Furthermore, communities would not proceed as they have done in the past to construct more and more acute care facilities when the real need is to expand home care programmes as well as provide facilities for other levels of care such as intermediate and extended care. And so while the cost of acute care would increase, the over-all per patient cost of providing the total range of levels of care would decrease. Most important of all, patients would be receiving the appropriate length of time, which must be the goal of all modern health care planning.
Recommendations 1. Home care programmes should be developed, particularly in the urban areas of British Columbia so that patients who can be treated efficiently at home will not be admitted to acute care hospitals unnecessarily and so that patients in acute care hospitals can be discharged sooner to complete treatment at home. 2. Patients treated at home must not be penalized financially. The necessary professional care of nurses, physiotherapists, technicians, and doctors, together with drugs and appliances, must be provided at the same cost to the patient as would apply if the patient were in an acute care hospital.
EQUI A E CO E AGE Persons on extended care in private hospitals or nursing homes (who are not receiving welfare) are responsible for the entire cost themselves. This is also true for patients requiring intermediate care, sent home after surgery, or having re- covered sufficiently to leave hospital but still in need of daily nursing care. Private hospital costs can be prohibitive, but so can ancillary costs of home care. They may include any or all of the following—nursing, homemaker service, occupational, 2 6 SE EM E 8 p h, r ph th r p , d t r n ll n , l n h l . It l n l d lf f n n n f dr n , ppl , nd dr , th r bt n bl n th h p t l. It h b n p nt d t v r nd v r th t th f t r b d f r n t r d t nd xt nd d r n f th th n th t t nd t n r th t f h lth rv . v r, t h lt rn t l b n t d b d t r nd p r d th t th x l v f t r b d f r t r l n ld n t n r l d r th t f th rv , b t t ld r l r t b d f r th p rp f r h h th r nt nd d. The cost of service of acute care patients is at its peak during the first three or four days, after which time it drops sharply. Thus, if the stay in acute care beds is shortened, it will mean more intensive usage by acute care patients, thus increas- ing the daily cost of these beds. Recommendations . Wh r th p t nt d n t r r n t r b d, b t t tt nd th h p t l f r t t nd ( r tr t nt, . ., l b r t r , r , E.C.G., ph th r p , t ., th l v l f r ld b d t d n h t l r t l t p n t, th th t f h d t n b n b rn b C IS. 2. h t th per diem pr f ll p t nt n t r , xt nd d r , r nt r d t r (r rdl f h th r n n n t t t n r t h b d t bl . . h t nn l h p b n l d d nd r d r . 4. h t b l n t h ld b l z d thr h t th r v n , r rdl f d t n nd th t b l n rv b t n h p t l b p d f r nd r C IS. CO O I A IO O SE ICES h b r f th C tt pt th f t th t h f d n r l t d t l n d . Y t v r h r th t tr v ll d f nd pr l f r t n nd d pl t n f rv , h p r t n th v r l ttl r rd f r, nd n n n t n v r l ttl n l d f, h th r r th l nt h th r rv n . W f nd th l n b t n th h lth rv nd th p rt nt f n r n ll r , lth h pr v n , t b t b t fr l nd t n , nd n n t n t n l t f nd p r n b n v r rv d h l th r r v d n rv t ll. In ll n t n t d th t th l v l f p r d l r l rv h h p t nt r v d d r tl r l t d t th p t nt r t h r h r d t r n l d f nd b l t t x t n r r . In th l r rb n ntr h r d pl t n f rv th t t , th f t r d d n t r n th b t nt r t f th p t nt, b t nd d th r t r fr nt t n r lt d n r p pl f ll n b t n th r f rv ff r d. M n f th " r " r b n d nt f d b I r p n th n t , b t th r n rt n f nd n rv nl t r v t r th r th n pr v th t t n h h th r tt pt n t ll v t , . ., n t tr n p rt t n rv , K n Ed rd r j t.
Recommendations . h t th r h ld b th rd n t n f l nd h lth rv n l l, r n l, nd r v n l b . And, th t nt r t n f rv h ld b nd rt n n th n t n h r th r l r v d n f d pl t n. S rv r r n t l rd n t n n l d : r rv , l n h l ,
22 E z. 2 SE EM E 8 physiotherapy, occupational therapy, LIP and other volunteer services to the aged and handicapped, dental services, nutritional counselling services, hospital equip- ment loan, drug subsidy, and transportation. 2. That attempts be made to standardize the training and provision of all medical, paramedical, and related services on a Province-wide basis. 3. That a co-ordinator be attached to all hospitals whose responsibility it would be to design a co-ordinated plan of services for each patient leaving the hos- pital.
Homemaker Services The Committee witnessed great discrepancies in the levels of organization, training, pay, and care offered by homemaker services throughout the Province. It recognized that the quality and calibre of the service offered was determined by the degree of co-operation maintained by the doctors, social workers, and their respective departments with the homemaker director as well as on the source and degree of funding which the service received. The Committee was very impressed by the variety of types of work which homemakers were being called upon to do— ranging from mother's helper to practical nurse and mental health aide. The Com- mittee was also made aware that although there was Government financial aid for low-income families needing this-service, that this aid was not extended to middle- income families even in those instances where this support would mean the differ- ence between having the service or not. All the members of the Committee ac- knowledge that homemaker service is an indispensable component of any successful home care programme and would like to recommend: 1. Standardization of training for all homemakers—based on a curriculum designed on a continuum ranging from minimum training for those homemakers acting primarily as mother's helpers to maximum training for those homemakers administering basic nursing care. All homemakers should be registered, their training and experience taken into account, and their salaries adjusted accordingly. 2. In a case where the services of the homemaker are required such costs should be accepted as part of the medical treatment plan and consequently should receive coverage under BCHIS.
Services to the Physically Handicapped Handicapped persons find that personal disabilities incur a great financial and emotional drain on their families as well as on themselves. It is the feeling of the Committee that society at large must share to a greater extent in the sup- port and development of these children and adults. It therefore recommends that in providing home care, the Government take into consideration the delivery of (a) drugs and appliances (braces for children, etc.) and (b) vacation and trans- portation costs, in whole or in part, as part of its responsibility. Recognizing that there are many handicapped persons who cannot live at home the Committee also recommends the development of greatly expanded resi- dential and hospital facilities to meet the growing needs in this area.
LICENSING OF HOME CARE FACILITIES In the interest of brevity, this segment of the report shall be submitted in outline form. It will list several observations first, then several improvements, and finally the conclusive recommendation of the Committee.
8 SE EM E 8 Observations . h r n r nt n d f r l n d h f r h r f l t . 2. h n d pp r nt n v r f t f d l r b t t bv n th f ld f r f r th r t rd d nd th nt ll d t rb d. . r v t h r v l bl . 4. It r d r bl t pl th nv l nt p t nt nt "h " t ph r th n t pl h n n n t t t n l z d t ph r . . r f h p r t n l pl nt r n p t nt h . 6. S h (n n n t t t n l r nr ll n n n n p t nt . . n pr d r r t n l n thr r t pl t . 8. A f h r p r t n n nt r p r t . . r nt l n n pr r t r r t n n t t t n t f th r d r bl h . 0. S h , th r d l, d n t l f f r l n n b f pr h b t v t f nf r n t th d n r h : (a) nd z , (b) x t l ht , (c) xtr d r , (d) t r dth , (e) xtr b thr f l t , nd (I f r n . . r v t h , n r ll d t n f l f v n r ht b r r d d n d t f r h r f r th n t p t nt h t r v r t th t l t n. 2. n pr d r r r r p rt fr v r l d ff r nt ff l , . ., p bl h lth, f r n p t r, l tr l n p t r, b ld n n p t r, h n r r , n p l z n n , t . S f th ff l r d n d t nt r nd rd n t n v r pr bl . . A h f r f r p r n j d d b th r t r r d n f r 00. 4. h r pr ntl n pr v n nd r C IS f r p n t n f r th l v l f r . . h r l f nf r t n n th r v n f l . Recommendations . A f t r, r ff nt t f l n n n d t b d v l p d. 2. In d t r n n t b l t f h , l tt nt n h ld b v n t th t b l t f th r v n f l ll t th f l t t lf. . S n th per diem p r t n xp n f l n d h r f l t n r h rd h p n ll r h , th th d f p nt h ld b r v d. 4. h per diem r t h ld b pr v d d thr h th lth p rt nt, pr f r bl nd r th C IS. . E h h h ld nr l only n p t nt th f l t r th f l n nd r , h h v r th l r n b r. 6. t r n n f th t b l t h ld b pl h d b n r t p r n , pr f r bl n n p t r f n t rv n nj n t n th th l l r pr nt t v f th n r p rt nt. . r t h ld b d t th t f n p t n r th n f d n rd r t h lp r r pr nt t v th th r h v l d f r f rr l . 8. r v l n l l nd t n h ld b n d r d n d t r n n t b l t f f l . In n l n, t th n n f th C tt th t h r n nd ll pr v d h n d d l v l f d l r , nd th t h r ll fr p r nt t 0 p r nt f th t r b d pr ntl b n p d b th p t nt h ld b tt r b r d f r n d n t d h . 22 E z. 2 SE EM E 8
Further, it is agreed that the licensing procedure for designating home care units needs proper revision. The present back-log of licence applications needs to be processed forthwith. Finally, the committee would suggest that great consideration be given to placing home care under the financial responsibility of the BCHIS.
Pooling and Lending of Hospital Equipment and Drugs The purpose of the hospital lending equipment would be the promoting of even better and faster patient care back in the home. Continuity, familiarity, a positive and congenial home atmosphere are crucial for healing. To ease this transition from hospital to home, the hospital could ensure that its patients, when released, have the same essential medications, drugs, and equip- ment in their home until healed. Hospitals' outpatient services are central to a community and already enjoy community recognition and support. A good deal of this is volunteer support through the Red Cross, Cancer Society, CARS, hospital societies, etc.
Recommendations 1. Existing hospital equipment needed for home care should be augmented, and a manager hired to keep inventory and co-ordinate a lending service in all hospital districts (the Prince George and other large hospitals already have a central supply depot that promotes the control, repair, and movement of equipment between hospital departments). Homes, private resthomes/hospitals, and nursing homes within a hospital district should be eligible for this equipment lending service. A small fee or deposit by the patient could be included as part of the service—but the fee should not hinder the home care option. If BCHIS could underwrite the capital costs, especially for the permanently handicapped—then parents of children with polio, cerebral palsy, and other handicaps could be relieved of the burden of canvassing for braces, shoes, and other equipment. There should be Federal cost sharing of such a hospital centred and initiated home care equipment lending scheme. 2. Hospital districts should be more involved in pooling and sharing ambulance services as well as other types of service transportation which would be of value to handicapped, OAP, and low-income groups in the community. 3. The hospital pharmacy should become more vital in the home care service. The British Columbia Purchasing Commission could make bulk purchases of generic drugs and keep a master "drug bank" in Victoria, Vancouver, and Prince George. The Hospital Pharmacy could then be in a position to resupply dressings and drugs to authorized patients. 4. The practice of cancer patients receiving dressings from the Cancer Society stations in most hospitals should be continued and encouraged.
Conclusion The Committee recognizes that the implementing of a wise comprehensive home care service in this Province will take time and will necessitate the expenditure of large sums of money. It also recognizes that the most fundamental barrier to this implementation lies in the present Federal and Provincial cost-sharing system. It accepts that the real responsibility of the Province is to design and supervise the delivery of a total health care service, and accepts that it is often impossible to do so satisfactorily because of the present funding system. Therefore, the Committee
20 SE EM E 8 r nd th t f r t t p n th d l v r f pr h n v h r rv b th r v nd r tr t r n f th pr nt d r l r v n l t h r n f r l . All f h h r p tf ll b tt d. OSEMA Y OW , Chairperson
A E I I A f b r , 2, th r r 2, p t nt n pr v t h p t l nd n r n h . r f l l t n r nd f r f ,000 ll b d. G v rn nt t d h th t th nd t n f ppr x t l 60 p r nt f th p t nt l f d th f r r n n xt nd d r h p t l, f h xt nd d r b d r v l bl , . ., ,800 p t nt . At pr nt, 0 xt nd d r b d r nd r n tr t n, 48 r b n pl nn d. h v r d l t f r n n xt nd d r h p t l $2 . h , th pr j t d nn l t f r f r th ,800 p t nt n n pr v t h p t l , b t l f d f r xt nd d r v r ld b : ,800 x 6 x $2 = $ , ,000. v r, 42 p r nt f th p t nt r pr ntl n lf r , th th r v n l G v rn nt p n $ . p r d t th pr v t h p t l f r th r r , . ., 42 f ,800 6 x $ . = $ , ,280. n th net n r n nn l t f pr v d n xt nd d r v r t th ,800 p t nt ll b : $ , ,000 — $ , ,280 = $ 0,48 , 20. h th th G v rn nt tt d t , n th r r d xt nd d r b d r b lt. Of th ,200 p t nt n pr v t h p t l h d not l f f r xt nd d r v r ppr x t l 42 p r nt ( 04 r n lf r . h pr nt nn l t t th G v rn nt , th r f r , 04 x 6 x $ . = $2,20 , 02. If ALL nt r d t r p t nt r v r d t th r t f $ . p r d , th dd t n l nn l t t G v rn nt ld b f r 6 6 p t nt ( ,200 — 04 , . ., 6 6 6 x $ . = $ ,048,480. On r fl n th l l t n l n th f t th t $ . n t r l t f r f r th d l t f nt r d t r , f d l t r t b pr v d d. h pr nt n l f r n r th pl nt f l p d p rl tr n d t ff, r lt n n l t nd rd f care. h v r d l t f xt nd d r $2 nd h l th nt n t f r r r d b nt r d t r p t nt l th n f r xt nd d r , t d btf l f d l t nt r d t r n b pr v d d f r $ . p r d .
O EC E O I CIA GO E ME COS S O I E ME IA E CA E At $11.95 At $15 r p t nt n p n pr v t l $ ,048,480 $ ,8 0,600 r pr b bl ,200 p r n h ht l f $ ,2 6,000 $6, 0,000
t l $8, 04,480 $ 0, 80,600 h , n r nd f r , th n r d t h h ld b n rr d b pr v d n nt r d t r v r ld ppr x t $ 0,000,000 p r r. A f l 0, , th n b r f xt nd d r b d v l bl n th r v n t t l ,02 . If th ntr b t n b th p t nt r r d fr $ p r d t $ r $5 p r d , rt n dd t n l f n ld b v l bl f r th f n n n f nt r d t r .
A IE CO I U IO S OM E E E CA E E S, A UA Y r nt ntr b t n t $ p r d ,02 x 6 $ = $ , 0 , 8 r j t d ntr b t n t $ p r d ,02 6 x $ = $ , 6, Projected Increase of Contributions 7.= $2,211,170 r j t d ntr b t n t $ p r d ,02 x 6 $ = $ , 2 , 2 Projected Increase of Contribution $4,422,340 If th pr b bl t t l n b r f nt r d t r p t nt l p d $ p r d , th r n tr b t n ld t t l: ,8 6 x 6 $5 = $3,460,200
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h r f r f xt nd d r nd nt r d t r p t nt p d $ p r d th nn l f n ntr b t d b th p t nt ld b : $4 422 40 + $ 460 200 = $7,882,540 On -h lf f th ($ 4 2 0 ld b ff t r v n n d r l ntr b t n f 0 p r nt r l l t d A E p t nt ntr b t n h v b n d d t d fr t t l t h E n r n t t th r v n l G v rn nt ld b : $ 0 80 600 — $ 4 2 0 = $6,439,330
A E I II l t pr j t n h r r b n xp r nt d th n n v r nd t r r pp r t b d t r t r xt nt th n v r b f r nd l d p n th f v r t bl lt rn t v t h p t l r ( h th r pr v t r p bl t r nd n r t r th t t p t nt nd r n r l r t n r h pp r nd r v r r r p dl t h In t r 0 p r nt f ll r r d n n d r b r f r d b t n b n d n t r nd thr h n G t p t l n rth n v r S n r r lth Un t ( n v r h r d n p l t pr j t f h r h h r pr j t r tr t d t p t nt h n v h p t l d l t t f r h r r v l nt t th ppr x t n b r f h p t l d th t ld b v d Ext n n f t f r r n b v n n r nd t n f th d t r r - rd n t n n r S v n h ndr d nd f ft -f r ( 4 p t nt h v p rt p t d n th pr r v r x- nth p r d th t v r ppr x t l $ 86 per diem ( n rd— n v r r n p 6 C p r d t th th t f n t r b d n l C l b n p t l t d b t n $ nd $75 per diem. h rv f r th h r pr j t n l d n r n h r l - n- h l ph th r p dr dr n tr n p rt t n All p t nt r v th rv n d d b t n t ll r n d d b h p t nt It t d th t pr r f th t p ld r d pr r n h p t l b d b h 0 t 20 p r nt h t p f pr r ld b xp nd d t t p pl b f r th r d tt d t h p t l h p rt l rl ppl bl t xt nd d r p t nt n t r r n nt n v tr t nt nd h n t r n n th r n h If h r r nd r r tt n nd th v l n r d th pr r f n ll r rv t ld h v t b t pp d p It f r t th t f h r r pr v d d t v l t nt r d t r th r ld n r l b f n n l tl It ld b nj t f t r t b b rn b th f l nv lv d A E I III Members of the Standing Committee on Social Welfare and Education—Ms. Rosemary Brown, Ch rp r n Mr Peter Rolston, S r t r Mr Emery Barnes; Mr. Colin Cabeltzzann; n Gary Lank; Mr Daisy Webster; n Dennis Cocke; n Eileen Dailly; n Norman Levi; Mr Pat Jordan; Mr Robert McClelland; Mr Harvey Schroeder; Mr David Brousson; nd Mr C. Scott Wallace. A E I I h St nd n C tt n S l W lf r nd Ed t n ld l t n l d r pt f th f ll n br f nd h rt l th n ll th nd v d l h h lp d t th t r h I CE GEO GE C r b M r l p t l W ll G r M r l p t l Q n l C r l v r S t r n G r nd tr t p t l S t rth rn Int r r lth Un t l t f r nd pp d Ch ldr n C r r j t M l n Wh l r n C r r r 00-M l tr t p t l Mr n t W l n KE A Adv S rv K l n C tt f th C ntr l O n n S l l nn n rd n M n nt C n t S rv M l n Wh l C - p r t v C n t S rv nt t n nd tr t lth nd W lf r A t n C rr l M d l f r l f Ed t n S th O n n lth Un t l f Ed t n n K l n G r tr C r S th O n n Un n rd f lth C r l t r j t K l p r S rv A t n f th K t n Mr Ort n Int r d t C r n tr t n r j t 22 SE EM E 8
K l n Int r d t C r l t n th rn n Ar , t r d r A t n f .C. K l n r S rv K t n S t f r nd pp d Ch ldr n M nt l lth C ntr , A. I. l M nt l lth C ntr , M d l f r l f Ed t n n K l n , r. rn nt t n n l p t l nt t n nd tr t t r nt S rv nt t n nd tr t lth nd W lf r A t n r j t Int r t n l Inl nd p t l, Ut l z t n p rt S th O n n lth Un t, Ann l p rt S th O n n r n C r r r S th O n n lth Un t n n f C n t C r l t St ll t r r v t p t l, K l n h C n t r M d l vs. h M d l r C ntr M d l, p rt nt f n r . C A OOK Cr t n ll r S rv E t K t n lth Un t C r , Cr nbr r S rv K b rl nd tr t r S t . A O S O rd n C r , M pl d M nt l lth C ntr rd n r r , M nt l lth r n h C ntr l r r ll r S rv S t C n t lth d Inv nt r , Ch ll M d l S t C n t S rv , M t nd tr t f Abb t f rd C r nd l t d lth S rv , Mr. A. E. n h , p rt nt f n r C r nd l t d lth S rv , M pl d p t l A t n " C r ," Ch ll C n t S rv Intr d t n f th Int r t d C pl x, M nn n t n v l nt S t M pl d tt M d r S rv M t S Abb t f rd G n r l p t l M l n Wh l , M . C. . ll M d l St ff, M n M r l p t l MSA C n t S rv , M n C n t S rv , l nt r r C r r r M nt Ch S n r C t z n A t n r p l f r A d r r Ut l z n th r ntl Ex t n r S rv r r , C ntr l r r ll M nt l lth C ntr bl lth r f C ntr l r r ll lth Un t bl lth r f th Upp r r r ll lth Un t Upp r nd C ntr l r r ll lth Un t Upp r r r ll lth Un t Ann l p rt l nt r In tr t n r r . A COU E Ad lt C r C ntr , rth Sh r A. . Ed rd , r t f St. C th r n An l n Ch r h C n l, rt C tl A t n f .C. r S rv A t n f h th r p t nd M r t t n r , v t n M nt l t nt A t n .C. r M n l, S t d G d C n d n Arthr t nd h t S t , C r C n d n d Cr S t , r S rv C d r C tt hb rh d S r v , C n t C r r r f r Eld rl C d r C tt hb rh d S rv , r v n f In h C r f r S Ch ldr n C ntr l n v r I l nd lth Un t, C r CE IC p rt t r t h C l b C r br l l A t n f .C. d r r f r h ll nd pp d Ch rl Gr r n, r t r f p t l l nn n , Gr t r n v r n l p t l Ch ld C r O p t n r C t nd t n S t , Ann l p rt C t nd t n S t , ld f M nt l lth C r p rt nt f r S rv , l S rv C ntr f Gr t r n v r Ar p rt nt f n r , M n, r r ll l l nn n A t n f r t h C l b C r S rv f r Gr t r n v r r r n n C r t n v r t n l In t t t n l r S rv S t l t v C tt n S l W lf r nd Ed t n, r v l r M nl nd S t f r d n f r h ll nd pp d M d x, M d l M nt l t nt A t n, n v r M lt n W b r W t n t r C tl C r r j t W t n t r d Cr r S rv hb r h d S rv A t n f Gr t r n v r, W t End S n r C t z n t r l In t t t f r t h C l b rt C tl C t C n l bl r n , lth Un t EAC G r tr tr t n S l l nn n nd v C n l f r t h C l b , C r S l l nn n nd v C n l f r t h C l b , C n t S rv rd St t f W n C n l U C, r r f r Eld rl C t z n f r t h C l b U C S h l f h l Ed t n nd r t n Un t d C n t S rv f Gr t r n v r Ar , rth Sh r v n, C r Un t d C n t S rv f Gr t r n v r Ar , rth Sh r , n r Un t d n nd t n n v r G n r l p t l, C n t lth r r n v r G n r l p t l S l S rv p rt nt, C r n v r W n lth C ll t v n v r G n r l p t l, p rt nt f O p t n l h r p , C n t lth t r n Ord r f r , S rr Wh t r n h, r S rv n v r G n r l p t l, C r t r n Ord r f r , rth Sh r r n h, C r O r S rv , r M n l W lf r nd h b l t t n p rt nt, Int r d t C r W n Chr t n p r n Un n n v r tr t, Al h l nd r . 22 tz. 2 SE EM E 2
COU E AY Ch rl h , d Cr n C pb rd C rn x ll r ndl t r S rv C x ll r S rv , t, r nt, nd t r v l p nt C x ll M l n Wh l C x ll M d l S t , r. W. 0. C. Y n l v r f r n C r , Mr . . tt, . . l C n ll n S rv , C pb ll v r r n C r r r , C rt n Mr . n rd r, C n lt nt h th r p t Old A n n r Or n z t n. A AIMO Ad lt Gr p v n f r th t rd d, n A t n f r th M nt ll t rd d Ch ldr n r t nt C ntr , n r l l A t n r rd n r j t, Gr ff th C r , C ntr l n v r I l nd lth Un t r S rv , d Cr n r n h O E C ntr f r th nd pp d, n M l n Wh l , rl Gr ff n n C n l f Ch r h , Mr. Art Gr ff n rt Alb rn nd tr t b r C n l bl lth r n S rv t r d r f r C r , n l C n l f W n t f r A t n t I pr v C r f r In p t t d r n n S h l tr t . 6 , tr t . 6 S t f Or n z d S rv Mr. Ol v r r v r . IC O IA A M lt rv C ntr v t d t th d f th Eld rl , S lv r hr d S rv .C. d r t n f b r .C. f W n C t z n A t n t S v th Env r n nt C t nd t n S t C n t C r l t n n r r , M nt l lth r n h Cr Int rv nt n nd bl Inf r t n S t f Gr t r t r l v r f C r n Gr t r t r Ar , Gr t r t r n M tr p l t n rd f lth l v r f t rd t n S rv , t r M nt l lth C ntr Gr t r t r C t z n C n ll n C ntr G. . r Cl n f r nd pp d Ch ldr n lth C r nd A n Un t, n v r W lf r nd h b l t t n p rt nt C r S rv , p rt nt f lth S rv nd p t l In r n r v t A n C tt S nt f r h n r n n d nt l M d t t n St. hn A b l n , t nt C r C r n r n nd r t A d h n n l t nt l f O r St d nt , M. W. S tt h t r C r r j t t r n Ord r f r . By leave of the House, the report was taken as read and received.
By leave of the House, the Hon. David Barrett (Premier) presented documen- tation relating to agreements between the Government of British Columbia, B.C. Cellulose, and Canadian National Railways.
And then the House adjourned at 5.37 p.m.
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Prayers by the Rev. R. Holmes.
Mr. Speaker made the following statement: Honourable Members,—On the 5th day of June 1973 I did receive a declara- tion from the Hon. William Andrew Cecil Bennett, Member for the Electoral District of South Okanagan, of his resignation of his seat in the Legislature. Pursuant to section 55 of the Constitution Act, being chapter 71 of the Revised Statutes of British Columbia, 1960, I did transmit to . J. Wallace, Esq., Deputy 24 SE EM E
Provincial Secretary, my warrant for the issue of a new Writ for the election of a member to fill the vacancy in the said Electoral District of South Okanagan.
The letter of the Deputy Provincial Secretary and the certificate of the Chief Electoral Officer of the result of the election of a member were read by the Deputy Clerk, as follows: "O ICE O E DEPUTY O I CIA SEC E A Y, " IC O IA, B.C., September 19, 1973 "Mr. Ian M. Horne, Q.C., "Clerk of the Legislative Assembly, "Parliament Buildings, Victoria, B.C. "Re By-election, South Okanagan Electoral District, September 7, 1973 "SIR,—I enclose herewith certified copy of the certificate of Mr. K. L. Morton, Chief Electoral Officer, respecting the election of William Richards Bennett to represent the South Okanagan Electoral District in the Legislative Assembly. "Yours very truly,
"L. J. WA ACE "Deputy Provincial Secretary"
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"C IE E EC O A O ICE , EGIS A GE E A O O E S, " A COU E , B.C., September 19, 1973 "Mr. L. . Wallace, "Deputy Provincial Secretary, "Parliament Buildings, Victoria, B.C. "Re By-election, South Okanagan Electoral District, September 7, 1973 "SIR,—The resignation, effective June 5, 1973, of William Andrew Cecil Bennett, the elected Member for the South Okanagan Electoral District, caused a vacancy to occur in the Legislative Assembly. "A Writ, calling for a by-election to fill that vacancy, was issued on August 1, 1973, polling day being September 7, 1973. "From the Writ now returned to me, I hereby certify the election of William Richards Bennett as the member to represent the South Okanagan Electoral District in the Legislative Assembly. "Yours truly, "K. L. MO O "Chief Electoral Officer and Registrar-General of Voters" On the motion of the Hon. Ernest Hall, it was Ordered— That the letter of the Deputy Provincial Secretary and the certificate of the Chief Electoral Officer of the result of the election of a member be entered upon the Journals of the House. Mr. William Richards Bennett, having taken the oath and signed the Parlia- mentary Roll, was introduced by Mr. Richter and Mr. Chabot, and took his seat. 22 E z. 2 SE EM E 2
On the motion of Mr. Gardom, the following Bills were introduced, read a first time, and Ordered to be placed on the Orders of the Day for second reading at the next sitting of the House after today: Bill (No. 13) intituled Crown Proceedings Act. Bill (No. 14) intituled British Columbia Ombudsman. Bill (No. 15) intituled British Columbia Auditor General. Bill (No. 16) intituled Public Scrutiny.
Order called for "Oral Questions by Members."
Pursuant to Order, the House resumed the adjourned debate on the Address in reply to the Speech of His Honour the Lieutenant-Governor at the opening of the Session. The debate continued. On the motion of the Hon. W. . Hartley, the debate was adjourned to the next sitting of the House.
Resolved, That the House, at its rising, do stand adjourned until 2 o'clock p.m. tomorrow.
Mr. McClelland asked the Hon. the Provincial Secretary the following ques- tions: 1. What was the total number of persons receiving either salary or wages from the Provincial Government as at July 31, 1972? 2. What was the total number of persons receiving either salary or wages from the Provincial Government as at July 31, 1973? The Hon. Ernest Hall replied as follows: "1. July 31, 1972, 34,045. "2. July 31, 1973, 39,860. "NOTE—These figures do not include persons receiving salary or wages in Crown corporations."
6 Mr. McClelland asked the Hon. the Provincial Secretary the following ques- tions: 1. What was the total number of employees within the Civil Service of the Province of British Columbia on August 31, 1972? 2. What was the total number of employees within the Civil Service of the Province of British Columbia on August 31, 1973? The Hon. Ernest Hall replied as follows: "1. August 31, 1972, 34,085. "2. August 31, 1973, 40,579."
And then the House adjourned at 5.54 p.m. 26 SE EM E 20
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Two O C OCK .M. Prayers by the Rev. L. M. Carlson.
On the motion of the Hon. D. D. Stupich, the following Bills were introduced, read a first time, and Ordered to be placed on the Orders of the Day for second read- ing at the next sitting of the House after today: Bill (No. 3) intituled An Act to Amend the Veterinary Medical Act. Bill (No. 5) intituled An Act to Amend the Agricultural Land Development Act. Bill (No. 7) intituled An Act to Amend the Milk Industry Act. Bill (No. 8) intituled An Act to Amend the Oleomargarine Act.
On the motion of Mr. Richter, the following Bills were introduced, read a first time, and Ordered to be placed on the Orders of the Day for second reading at the next sitting of the House after today: Bill (No. 17) intituled Guaranteed Minimum Income Plan. Bill (No. 18) intituled Guaranteed Income Act. Bill (No. 19) intituled An Act to Amend the Income Tax Act.
Order called for "Oral Questions by Members."
Pursuant to Order, the House resumed the adjourned debate on the Address in reply to the Speech of His Honour the Lieutenant-Governor at the opening of the Session. The debate continued. During the debate, by leave of the House, Ms. Brown tabled briefs and letters presented to and received by the Select Standing Committee on Social Welfare and Education. The debate continued. On the motion of the Hon. A. B. Macdonald, the debate was adjourned to the next sitting of the House.
Mr. G. H. Anderson presented the Final Report of the Select Standing Com- mittee on Agriculture, as follows: REPORT LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE Room, September 20, 1973 MR. SPEAKER: Your Select Standing Committee on Agriculture begs leave to report as fol- lows: The Select Standing Committee on Agriculture, in accordance with the fol- lowing resolution passed by the 1973 Spring Session of the Legislature, held five weeks of hearings in the Province: 22 E z. 2 SE EM E 20 2
That this House authorize the Select Standing Committee on Agriculture, upon prorogation of the House, to examine into and study the following matters, namely: (1) Complete its investigation of tree-fruit marketing in British Columbia; (2) Investigate vegetable growing and marketing practices in Interior and Coast regions with a view to improving economic return; (3) Investigate range use with regard to wildlife, domestic animals, and the forest industry; (4) Consider such facets of the agricultural potential of the Peace River area as the Committee may deem appropriate; (5) Investigate availability of pension plans for those employed in the farm- ing industry. The chairman of the said Committee shall, between sessions, file with Mr. Speaker a monthly report setting forth particulars of the meetings and a general statement of the activities and expenses of the Committee during the preceding month. During the week of June 11 to June 15, the Committee held public hearings in Cranbrook, Creston, Grand Forks, and Oliver. The week of June 18 to June 22 hearings and orientation tours were held in Kelowna, Salmon Arm, and Kam- loops. During the period of July 3 to July 19, hearings and tours were held in Williams Lake, Vanderhoof, Smithers, Fort St. John, and Dawson Creek. Dur- ing the visit to Dawson Creek the Committee visited the Vocational School Farm, community pastures, operating ranches, and had a most informative trip to Beaver- lodge, Alberta, to visit the Federal Experimental Farm and received valuable in- formation on all facets of work being done with regard to agriculture in the Peace River area. In all cases extensive field trips were made by the Committee to view farms, ranches, and food-handling plants in company with Department of Agri- culture personnel and local people engaged in one branch or another of the agri- culture industry. This format was followed throughout the tour with transporta- tion being supplied for the most part by District Agriculturalists and Forestry Agrologists. The Committee wishes to express appreciation to these Government employees for their long hours of work and helpful information offered whenever needed. Approximately 70 briefs were received from persons engaged in one phase or another of the fruit-growing and marketing industry. Thirty-one briefs were received on multirange use, 14 briefs were received on the vegetable production and marketing, and 15 briefs received on the agricultural potential of the Peace River area. The week of August 27 to August 31 saw the Committee hold hearings in the City of Penticton in connection with our investigation into British Columbia tree-fruit marketing. Appearing before the Committee was a cross section of the wholesale and retail segment of tree-fruit marketing, representatives of United Fruit Growers, Allied Fruit Growers, British Columbia Tree Fruits Ltd., British Columbia Fruit Growers' Association, and the British Columbia Fruit Board. Throughout the Committee's study, a matter of paramount concern was the fact that the larger percentage of the agriculture industry has limited means of increasing returns to meet rising costs. All costs for equipment, labour, fertilizers, transportation, interest on both operating capital and money for capital investment, etc., have risen to the extent that many farmers have found it impossible to oper- ate a viable enterprise. Some owners were supplementing their farm incomes by outside employment while a few were forced to have entered employment else- where while their lands lay idle. 28 SE EM E 20 It b rv d b th C tt th t th v r f f r r n r t h C l b v r 0 r . In n r t t n n t h r n p pl r n t nt r n r lt r n r n r v n, th t n r ( n t ff nt r t rn f r nv t d p t l nd l b r (2 th h h t f l nd nd p nt ( th h h nt r t r t f r n t f n n f r , r h rd, r r n h, r t nv rt t h h r r t rn p r t n. S f r r v l nt r d th r n nt r t t nd t t l nn l d bt l d h h ft n d th d ff r n n h th r n p r t n r t rn d th t f pr d t n. h C tt nv n d th t th n f th t r p d nt t f l r lt r l nd tr n th r v n . MU I A GE USE h C tt f nd th t th r rd t th lt f r n l nd, th r r n pl nt fr r n h r th t th r tr p rt nt, h r r p n bl f r r z n p r t f r ttl , r n t p th t t th ttl nd tr nd r r r nt d t r n tr r th r th n r . In th K l p r , th C tt f nd n x ll nt b nn n f b n d tr r f r t t n nd th d n f r n l r t r nd d r l t n h p b t n th r tr A r l p rt nt nd th r n h r . Unf rt n t l , th n t n r t f . All r n h r nd th r t n xpr d n rn b t th l f r n t d t n r n th r z n p r t th t r d f r n r p r d. h f lt th t th r n h n n t ld p nd t nd n n p r t n th G v rn nt t f rt l z , d, nd n r ll pr v r n l nd t d t r t , f th ld b r d n th t th r r z n r ht ld b f l n r d r t n. r f r h rd fr h nd W ldl f p r nn l n W ll nd rt St. l xpr n th r n rn b t r z n f r ld n l t . n h r , h nd W ldl f p pl , r tr p r nn l, nd r tr A r l t ll r d th t th r r f r t , ldl f , r r t n, nd tr n Cr n l nd th pr p r n nt nd r p r t n n th d p rt nt n rn d. ECOMME A IO . h M n t r f th Env r n nt l nd nd U C tt h ld t fr ntl n r t d d th b t f Cr n l nd n h r f th r v n . Wh r d n d f r n l , th ppr pr t d p rt nt h ld d n t r th t p rt l r r n f l nd. 2. Wh r d n d f r lt pl , th n nt f th r z n l nd nd ll t n f r z n p r t n th n t n h ld b d n t r d b th p rt nt f A r lt r . Ev r ff rt h ld b d t nv lv th l l t n nd th r t n . n r h C tt r nd th t th pr nt l t f r r z n h ld b ph d t nd r pl d b n nn l p r t t , n l d n r ht f r n l r tt n nt th p r t, pr v d n th p r tt l v p t th t r nd nd t n t bl h d b th p rt nt f A r lt r . p r t r h ld b tr n f rr d b t n p r tt n h rd r dj t nt . In th f h rd r d t n th n l n t nth h ll r v rt t th p rt nt f A r lt r f r r . 22 E z. 2 SE EM E 20
PROPOSED SHEEP-KILLING PLANT The Select Standing Committee on Agriculture was made aware of the desire of sheep ranchers to have a centrally located lamb-slaughtering plant. It was pointed out that if such a plant were not built the sheep ranching industry in Canada could disappear. At the present time, only one company carries out this work, as the equipment needed is different from the usual plant in order to have an economic operation. The Committee was informed that the Federal Government and the Government of Alberta have agreed to assist in the funding of such a plant at Innisfail, Alberta, and studies have been carried out in England on a modern plant specializing in this operation. RECOMMENDATION It is recommended that the British Columbia Government give consideration to participating with the Alberta Government and Federal Government in funding this proposed plant if it is found to be more practical than locating one in British Columbia. Any arrangement must ensure that British Columbia producers have continued access to the facilities.
PENSIONS FOR FARMERS The Committee found that in a general way there was not much interest in additional pensions for farmers. Many farmers testified they were unable to make full contributions allowed to the Canada Pension Plan and in some cases none at all. Those few who showed interest indicated they would prefer to have the terms of a pension plan to study before they could decide whether they would be in- terested or not. In general terms, farmers and ranchers stated they would prefer to have an adequate return for their investment and labour, and would take care of their own retirement and use present plans available. The Committee is aware that a study of the matter has been undertaken by the British Columbia Federation of Agriculture with funds provided by the Pro- vincial Government and recommend consideration be deferred until that study is completed. AGRICULTURAL POTENTIAL OF PEACE RIVER In the opinion of the Committee, the Peace River area has great potential to be a much larger producing area than it is. This was one of the last areas to be homesteaded in Canada and land is still being taken up by the method known as "lease-purchase" with certain performance qualifications leading to purchase of land. This means that the area was settled and is still being settled by people who, in a majority of cases, do not have enough investment and operating capital. In the opinion of the Committee and many people engaged in agriculture this has led to many farmers growing crops that are not necessarily suited to the area, but have the potential of the greatest cash return to repay operating loans at the end of the growing season. The Committee believes that there is a great potential for the raising of beef, lamb, and pork in the Peace River area, and that every effort should be made to encourage farmers to take up stock-raising as opposed to 100-per-cent grain grow- ing. It is felt that the Peace River District could raise stock to a finished animal for slaughter by feeding grain grown in the area. The animals could be processed at the slaughter-house in Dawson Creek which is at present operating in short supply of stock. This would create increased employment in the area and no waste would be shipped out as is the case with shipping live animals.
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ECOMME A IO S nd d th t th G v rn nt f r t h C l b t bl h n r lt r l l n pr r f nd d nd r nd d n t r d b th M n t r f A r lt r . h bj t v f th l n pr r h ld b ( t pr v d t n t f r r n t bl h n , d v l p n , nd p r t n n f r n t (b t t n th tr n f r f f r fr f th r t n r d ht r ( t t bl h n f r r n n f r n t (d t p bl d v r f t n nd pr d t n f r t bl r lt r l d t . h p rp f th l n pr r h ld b ( th p r h f l v t (b th n tr t n nd pr v nt f b ld n , n pr v nt r dd t n t h th n f n nd t r ppl , nd p r h n p nt t t bl h r xp nd l v t f l t , n l d n d r , p ltr , nd b p n ( th l r n , br n , dr n n f l nd, r n t ll n rr t n (d th p r h f r lt r l pl nt nd f r h n r ( th n l d t n f t t nd n l b l t (f th p n ff nd d h r n f rt , n br n , nd th r h r r l n n l nd n d r p r h d ( th p r h f l nd (h h th r p rp r l t d t th t bl h nt, d v l p nt, nd p r t n f f l r f l p n f r ppr v d b th M n t r nd h t ff. El b l t ( Appl nt t b r d nt f r t h C l b . (2 Appl nt t b C n d n t z n r l nd d r nt. In th nd n t n th ppl nt t n t h v l nd d r nt t t f r th n x r . ( h f r t h v th p t nt l t ntr b t n n n f l t th r lt r nd tr . (4 h ppl nt t h v d t f r r r , r t r d nt r t n th l nd r f ll l d v l p nt p r h r nt r th r tt n ppr v l nd n nt f th r t r d n r. ( A l n f r ff f r n h ld b t bl h d b nd h h l n ld n t b th r z d. (6 l f r rp r t n h ll b l bl t ppl . r ( h r h ld b pr v n f r h rt, nt r d t , nd l n t r l n th x f 0 r . (2 h nt r t h ld b t r n bl l r t . ( It h ld b p bl , h r n d r d ppr pr t , th t p nt n pr n p l ld b d f rr d f r p t th f r t thr r . (4 All l n h ld b l f n r d. h C tt r nd th t p n n l l t n h ld b n t d t r nt f r r l n fr th pr v t l nd n t r. 22 E z. 2 SE EM E 20 31
ECOMME A IO OCA IO A SC OO A C (a) That the Department of Education add an operating ranch to the farm they presently operate at the Dawson Creek Vocational Institute. (b) That a veterinary clinic be established in conjunction with the ranch to assist operations and be of service to Peace River ranchers. PREDATOR CONTROL AS CONCERNED WITH STOCK GRAZING Predatory animals, including the wolf, are becoming more of a problem with the passing of time in our northern areas. Many instances were related to the Committee of wolf and bear killing calves and colts, as well as young wild ungulates and birds. While your Committee is concerned with all wildlife, it is felt that the wolf has more than enough room to exist in unsettled lands and should be rigidly controlled in areas used for agriculture. The bear problem is not extreme and the occasional offender can be tracked down and dealt with. RECOMMENDATION (1) Stock losses—There should be compensation from public funds for cattle and sheep losses, not only in the Peace River District but throughout the Prov- ince. These losses may be from predators, hunters, or rustlers, with claims to be approved initially by the nearest stockmen's association. (2) (a) Predator control in agricultural areas should be transferred to the Department of Agriculture. (b) The Minister of Agriculture be charged with the development of an effec- tive programme of control in those areas. (c) The Committee recommends more severe penalties and strict enforce- ment of the law with regard to human predators such as hunters and rustlers. (d) Forest Rangers and district RCMP personnel should be deputized as game wardens to check hunting licences and vehicles to enforce the game regu- lations and check for rustling. RECOMMENDATION Agricultural Department Staff The Committee found the field staff of the Department to be highly dedicated, well-qualified people who were of great assistance to the Committee, but we feel this staff is insufficient in numbers and in some instances have unreasonably large areas to render the assistance required to those engaged in agriculture. Therefore, we recommend this staff be enlarged to the extent necessary to carry out their re- sponsibilities. Veterinary Services Remote areas are badly in need of veterinary service and laboratory facilities. The Government should increase its efforts to encourage veterinarians to establish themselves in these areas to provide this essential service. The Select Standing Committee on Agriculture unfortunately did not have sufficient time to carry out all of its tasks in a thorough manner. Tree-fruit market- ing in British Columbia is a more complicated matter than could be handled in the time available. Also it was not possible to hold hearings in the Fraser Valley or Vancouver Island with reference to vegetable growing and marketing practices in the time available. 2 SE EM E 2 h r f r , th C tt r p tf ll r t th t th th r z th S l t St nd n C tt n A r lt r , h n t r n t t t d, t nt n t nv t t n nt th t tt r nt l pr h n v r p rt n b f l d t th n xt tt n f th l t r . p tf ll b tt d. G. . A E SO , Ch r n
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Mr. Nunweiler pr nt d th p rt f th S l t St nd n C tt n M n p l M tt r , f ll : E O EGIS A I E COMMI EE , S pt b r 2 , Mr. Sp r: Y r S l t St nd n C tt n M n p l M tt r b l v t r p rt f ll : h S l t St nd n C tt n M n p l M tt r x n d th tt r ff t n l nd n th Str t f G r nd th dj nt t r . It v t d nd v d th f ll n l nd : M 2, , 4, rth nd r, S th n l r, S lt pr n , G l n , M n , S t rn l 2 2 , n, G b r, K t , n n, b , t , G br l , K p r, h t . On l 2 th C tt xp r n d t n n f l d t th U C r S n C ntr nd r th d r t n f r. Cr f rd ll n , h pr nt d p t r l t n th t d n tr t d th r l t n h p b t n p l t n thr t, p pl t f t n, l nd pr , l nd v l , nv r n nt l l t , t . In t nt xt, nv r n nt l l t r l t d t f tr n p rt t n, t r v l b l t , n rn t l r n, l p f l nd, t p f l nd, . ., r lt r v . r , nd th nt f p n l nd nd f n ll th d v r t f tr v r. bl t n r h ld n th l nd , nd th C tt pl d nd pr d th th nt r t nd t rn t b th l l p pl h xpr d v t l n rn b t th f t r f th l nd . It pp r nt t th C tt th t th l nd r f xtr p rt n t th r v n f r t h C l b , th r fr l , th r l t n r l, b n b t n th t l r t t n th r v n , t f lt th t p pl r nt tl d t th nd nj th t th p t h h th r bl t rv . r th p rp f th r p rt th G lf I l nd h ll n ll l nd n th Str t f G r nd dj nt t r . Observations . h l nd r d ff r nt fr h th r nd fr th M nl nd. v r, M nl nd r , p ll th S n h n C t b f d ff lt , pr b bl h v l r pr bl . 2. Ap rt fr th r n t r l n l r t , l t n, nd n n , th l nd h v th pr bl f th " p l nt r t ": ( l r d nt , n f h r r t r d, nd th r h h v t th r l v n l ll . (b r n b r f r r d nt nd ( r v t r . ( r l nd n r , ll b nt , ft n rp r t nd f r n. (d A l r r r "pr v n l" nt r t f th n r l p bl . (e) nd d v l p r nd p l t r . ( f r f r l n h ld r ( , . Ex t n b nd r f r n l d tr t nd n f r pr nt t n nd n t n t nd fr r n l d tr t r n n d r bl fr tr t n. (S v n r n l d tr t h h v p rt n f th l nd th n th r b nd r . 22 E z. 2 SE EM E 24 35 4. A pl t l f j r d t n b r v n l, r n l, r n p l b d v r Ind n l nd b f x l v d r l j r d t n n r n d ff lt . . h r r x t n bd v n h h pp r ttr t v nd r r l n h r t r b t th nl d t th f t th t n r l ttl p r nt d v l p d. Of ll th pr bl th C tt nd nt f l r bd v n nd v r d v l p nt th pr r t n rn. 6. r nt h 0 r fr z r l t n bd v n t l r r p r l f l r z ll n t b ff nt n th l n t r , n r ll h r l b ff t v th r r ph t t d nd n t v pl nn n t hn h l t r , r n b lt , t . . h r n d f r n n r f p rv d p bl p , b h , h n tr l , p n nd ( r p r nd , t ., n v rt ll v r l nd. M t l nd dj n n th b t b h pr v t l n d. It nf rt n t th t n f th S nd l nd t ttr t v b nd v r p l d f r r r t n l b l t r nd b n r nd . 8. W t r tr n p rt t n t th l nd t th nt r t t n nd n d r f l ntr l nd rd n t n (b t th n t th n r n l d tr t j r d t n . It l v d nt th t n n l nd r r n l d tr t n ntr l th fr n , t, nd t p f tr n p rt t n. r n p rt t n n th l nd l n p rt nt r l t d f t r. E ph h ld b pl d n p d tr n tr n t r th r th n v h l tr n t, nd th f th l nd h ld th b pl nn d rd n l . . On f th j r pr bl n nt r d b th C tt n t t r , h r n , nd p bl t n th f t th t th r h b n, nd r n , v r r l f rd n t n nd n t n. In n r p t , th l nd h v f ll n v t t ad hoc r "b nd d" t v t . h r n d f r rd n t d j r d t n t b r p n bl f r pl nn n , z n n , ntr l f l nd , tr n p rt t n, nd r l t d tt r f r ll th l nd nd th j r d t n ld r r ff nt f nd n v r nd b v th rr nt r v n r fr l l t x t n. 0. Alth h r n l d tr t r n t r d t rr t ll th r p n b l t xp t d f th r l t v t th f t r f th C t l l nd f r t h C l b , th n ll rv th l nd f r n d n tr t v p rp n l d n h p t l , h l , l l pr v nt , p l pr j t , h lth, b ld n n p t n, t . nd r f r n l d tr t n d t b r v d f r p bl tr n f r f l nd , b d n n t r l l n f n t n. rth r, th n f r pr nt t n nd n t n b t n l nd nd t r n l d tr t n d t b t d d. . n z n th n d t n r nt n d pl nt pp rt n t f r r d nt f th l nd , tr tl ntr ll d l t d r l d v l p nt, l ht nd tr , nd r lt r l t v t p t bl th th l f t l f th l nd n nt n , n n th l , ph f r th f t r d v l p nt f th l nd h ld b pl d n r r t n, d r t r d nt l , nd pr rv t n f r r l t ph r . h C tt pr d th n t n f d r bl l nd (b r d n , r p , f p r , nd nt b t l r d t th p n r h rd n f l nd b r d nt nd b nt n r f r h h p t l n p rp . It l d tr d b th v d n f n d r bl bd v n t v t n th p t, h h nd rt n th t f ll d t r n t n 36 SE EM E 24 f t p t n th f t r f h l nd. O r b l f th t th l nd r t p rt nt t th p pl f C n d t b l ft p n t xpl t t n b r l t t d v l p r nd p l t r . 2. rt ll th t x pt n h rt r p t nt l h rt f p t bl t r f j r n rn t pr t ll ll l nd nd t th C tt . . W t nd rb d p l n th r r tt r f j r n rn t th C tt . 4. A p t nt l x t f r n rv n n r h l l t n th l nd . Recommendations . h C tt r nd th t th r n l d tr t b nd r b r v d nd dj t d t r th t th r p t v l nd r n th t ppr pr t r n l d tr t. 2. h C tt l r nd th t th r v n l G v rn nt t bl h n "I l nd r t" ( r n , th t ppr pr t b d t b r p n bl f r nd t rd n t th f t r f h l nd th n r t r f r f r n . It t b ph z d t tr n l th t th tr t t th pr r r p n b l t f r ll G lf I l nd ff r th n G v rn nt j r d t n, n l d n l nd , f t r r th p tt rn , ntr l f d v l p nt, nd tr l, r r t n l, nd r l t v t , ll p r nd p n p d n t n . It nt l th t th tr t b f ll r pr nt t v f ll nt r t , n t nl n th l nd , b t thr h t th r v n h l . Wh l r n z n th r ht f th l nd r , th C tt t th t th t n f r t h C l b dr t ll ff t d b pr v t nd p bl t v t h h d n t h v th p t n th r p rt f th r v n . h C tt n r f r t th fr l n t r f th t l n t . t r n z d th t v r t f G v rn nt d p rt nt nd n : h , lth, rr , nd nd r t , r , t ., ll r n l d tr t nd t z n r p n th l nd , ll h v n p rt nt r l t pl n th r p t, ph z th t th pr p d tr t r n t n t b p r t nd ( r r t n , b t r th r f ll r pr nt t v rd n t n b d , h t t t br n t th r h r p, n , r d p rt nt f G v rn nt nd t t n th b t nt r t f th l nd nd th r r d nt , th d r rd f r th br d r nd r v n d nt r t. . h C tt l r nd th t nt l th tr t r n t bl h d, n bd v n b p r tt d n n l nd th f nd n l d n n n, rnb , nd t I l nd , . ., n n f th G lf I l nd n th Str t f G r nd n dj nt t r . 4. h C tt r nd th 0 r fr z b nt n d n th n rth rn G lf I l nd th t h v n t t b n t d d b th C tt .
C n l n h C tt ppr t th t n nth f h rd r h v n nt th pl nn n pr n f th l nd , nd th C tt h p th t f th G v rn nt pt th r nd t n , th t th tr t b t bl h d nd p r t v n p bl , n t t pr l n nd l th t n th l nd . A. A. U WEI E , Ch r n l v f th , th r p rt t n r d nd r v d. Mr. r r d th n. th M n t r f h th f ll n t n : . th r v n l G v rn nt rd d n h h ntr t n Apr l , ? 22 E z. 2 SE EM E 24
2. If the answer to No. 1 is yes, (a) how many contracts have been awarded, (b) what was the value of each contract awarded, and ( who was the successful bidder in each case? The Hon. G. R. Lea stated that, in his opinion, the reply should be in the form of a Return and that he had no objection to laying such Return upon the table of the House, and thereupon presented such Return.
46 Mrs. Jordan asked the Hon. the Minister of Human Resources the following questions: 1. Has the Department of Human Resources hired any individuals to investi- gate complaints concerning rent increases? 2. If the answer to No. 1 is yes, (a) what is the name of each individual hired, (b) what is the salary paid to each individual, and (c) has the Minister received any reports on the investigation to September 13, 1973? The Hon. Norman Levi replied as follows: "1 and 2. This question was answered during the discussion of my Estimates, Spring Session 1973 (see Hansard of April 4, 1973.)"
48 Mrs. Jordan asked the Hon. the Minister of Human Resources the following questions: With respect to the Social Assistance Handbook published June 1, 1973— 1. Was the handbook printed by other than the Queen's Printer? 2, If the answer to No. 1 is yes, (a) what was the name of the printing firm used, (b) how many copies were printed, (c) what was the cost of printing, (d) what is the method of distribution, and (e) how many copies have been distributed to August 31, 1973? The Hon. Norman Levi replied as follows: "1. Yes. "2. (a) Price Printing Ltd., 1519 West Sixth Avenue, Vancouver, B.C., (b) 30,000, (c) $8,639.31, (d) bulk distribution in the Vancouver area to Provincial and municipal offices, private philanthropic and public service organizations by a parcel delivery service, distribution to local offices of the Department of Human Resources, the Mental Health and Public Health Branches of the Department of Health Services and Hospital Insurance, and Mental Health occurred through the regular departmental mail service, copies requested by individuals and groups were mailed on request, and (e) approximately 27,000."
Mr. Phillips asked the Hon. the Minister of Highways the following questions: 1. Has the Department of Highways operated any aircraft for the purpose of providing ambulance service between April 1, 1973, and September 13, 1973? 2. If the answer to No. 1 is yes, (a) how many flights took place and (b) between what locations in British Columbia did the flights take place?
The Hon. G. R. Lea replied as follows: "1. No. "2. See . ." 8 SE EM E 24 61 Mr. Phillips d th n. th M n t r f h th f ll n t n : . h n ppr pr t d b th l t r n r th r z d b Sp l W rr nt b t n Apr l , , nd S pt b r , , t b d f r n nd ll p rp n nn t n th th p rt nt f h f r th f l r 4? 2. h f h ppr pr t n r Sp l W rr nt th r z t n r xp nd d b t n Apr l , , nd S pt b r , ? . Wh t th nt t S pt b r , , t ll n xp nd d? h n. G. R. Lea r pl d f ll : " . A th r z d b Sp l W rr nt: Sp l W rr nt , t 6 (Gr nt nd S b d , $ ,8 Sp l W rr nt 4, t (S r E pl nt r r , $ ,000,000 Sp l W rr nt 4, t ( r h f E p nt , $ , 00,000. "2. Exp nd d (t S pt b r , : Sp l W rr nt , $ ,8 Sp l W rr nt 4, $ ,000,000 Sp l W rr nt 4, $ , 00,000. " . Un xp nd d: Sp l W rr nt , nil; Sp l W rr nt 4, $6,000,000 Sp l W rr nt 4, nil."
62 Mr. Phillips d th n. th M n t r f A r lt r th f ll n t n : . Wh t nt f t 6, C d 0 f th 4 d t h b n x p nd d t d t nd n h t p rt l r nn r? 2. Sp f ll , n dv rt n n nv lv d th n xp nd t r ? . If th n r t . 2 , (a) h t dv rt n n nv lv d nd (b) h t th nt f xp nd t r nv lv d th th dv rt n n ? h n. D. D. Stupich r pl d f ll : " . t 6, C d 0 f th 4 d t, th .C. d r d t r t n r r xp nd t r t A t , : d , $20,402.4 pr , $ , 8.0 t l v n, $ , 8 pr nt d t r l, $ 2, 66. 6 p nt, $ , 0 .2 l r , $8, 00 ll n , $ ,426.86 t t l, $8 , 42. . "2. . " . t ppl bl ."
h n. D. D. Stupich pr nt d t Mr. Sp r M fr n r th t n nt G v rn r, h h r d f ll WA E S. OWE Lieutenant-Governor h t n nt G v rn r tr n t h r th ll ( . nt t l d Farm Income Assurance Act, nd r nd th t th l t v A bl . Government House, September 17, 1973
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And th n th dj rn d t 6. p. .