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SELECTIONS FROM MEMORANDA & ORAL EVIDENCE BY NON-OFFICIALS (PART I)
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:1930 Price f.I os. Oil. Net PREFATORY NOTE
VOLUME XVI The exti-aots from m'8.l evidence contained in this volume cover the more important portions of the evidence given, in the presence of the Press, by non-officiaJs* in the following Provinces : Bombay, Punjab, North-West Frontier Province, Delbi,United Provinces, and Bihar and Orissa. Volume xvn contains that given in the Provinces of Assam, Bengal, Burma, Madras, and the Central Provinces.
In nearly every case the witnesses had previously submitted writtenmeoioranda.; these documents formed the basis of their examinatioD" and are printed at the beginning of their oral evidence.
A few of the written memoranda. on whioh oral evidence was not taken, are also inaluded in this 'volume .
.As explained in the prefa.oe to Volume I of the Commission's Reporf<. a.ll evidence was taken bya Joint Conference consisting of the Statutory Commission, the Indian Central Committee and, in a.Il theGGvemors' Provinces except the Central Provinces, a Provincial C',ommittee. A list of the members of these Committees is given on page iv.
References in the evidence to pages of the various 'l'!'iitteD memoranda have been altered to correspond with the .paging in the present volume. .
The Commission have suggested that the full text of the evidence given in the presence of the Press, inoluding portions omitted from the present volume as being of less importance, and also copies of non-offioial memoranda not printed in these volumes, should be made available for inspection in I,ondon and India., and it is understood that this will be done. • Inoluding officials, speaking for Service a.ssooiations in their personal capacity, and not representing views of Government. iv
PERSONNEL OF JOINT CONFERENCE
INDIAN STATUTORY COMMISSION. . BIHAR AND ORISSA PROVINCIAL The Rt. Hon. Sir John Simon, K.C.V.O., M.P. COMMITTEE. (Ohairman). Raja Bahadur H. P. Narayan Singh of Amawan The VisCOWlt Burnham, G.C.M.G., C.H. (Ohairman). The Lord Strathcona and Mount Royal. Raja Rajendra Narayan Bhanja Deo, O.B.E. The Hon. E. C. G. Cadogan, C.B., M.P. Babu Chandreehvar P. Narayan Sinha. The Rt. Hon. V. Hartehom, M.P. Rai Bahadur Sarat Chandra Roy. Col. the Rt. Hon. G. R. Lane Fox, M.P. Maulvi Saiyid Mubarak Ali Sahib. Major C. R. Attlee, M.P. Mr. Saiyid Muhammad Athar Huaea.in. Babu Lakasmidhar Mahanti. THE INDIAN CENTRAL COMMITTEE. Hon. Sir Sankaran Nair, Kt., C.I.E. (Ohairman). Hon. Sir Arthur Froom. ASSAM PROVINCIAL COMMITTEE. Hon. Raja Nawab Ali Khan. Lt.-Colonel W. D. SmiI.. (Oha;roIan). Hon. Sardar Bahadur Shivdev Singh Uberoi. Maulvi Arze.n Ali Majumdar Mr. Kikabhai Premchand, M.L.A. Srijut Mukunda Narayan Borooah. Sir Hari Singh Gour, Kt., M.L.A. Maulavi Keremat Ali. Nawab Sir Zulfiqar Ali Khan, Kt., M.L.A. Rai Bahadur Sadananda Dowerah. Dr. Abdulla Suhrawardy, M.L.A. Maulavi Munawwar Ali. Rao Bahadur M. C. Rajah, M.L.A. Rai Bahadur ,Amamath Ray.
BOMBAY PROVINCIAL COMMITTEE. Khan Bahadur Shah Nawaz Khan Bhutto, BENGAL PROVINCIAL COMMITTEE. C.I.E. (Ohairman). Alhadj Sir AbdelkerimGhuznavi, Kt. (Ohairolan). Khan Saheb Abdul L. H. Hajrat Khan. Mr. W. L. Travers, C.I.E., O.B.E. Dr. B. R. Ambedkar. Mr. A. K. Fazl-ul-Huq. Mr. E. Miller. Maulvi Abul Kaeem. Sardar G. N. Mujumdar. Maharaja Saehi Kant.. Acharjya Chaudhuri of Syed Miran Muhammad Shah, B.A., LL.B Muktagacha. Rao Saheb Donge.reingh Ramji Pati!. Khan Bahadur K. G. M. Faroqui. PUNlAB PROVINCIAL COMMITTEE. Khan Bahadur Captain Sirdar Sikandar Hayat BURMA PROVINCIAL COMMITTEE. Khan, M.B.E. (Ohairman). U Aung Thin, M.A., B.L. (Ohairman). Dewan Bahadur Raja Narendra Nath. Rai Sahib Che.udhri Chhotu Ram. U BaU. U Ba Shin, M.B.E. Dr. Gokal Chand Narang, M.A., Ph.D. Mr. C. H. Campagnae, M.B.E. Mr. Owen Roberta. Sra Shwe Ba, T.P.S. Sardar Ujjal Singh, M.A. Mr. M. M. Rafi Che.udhri Zafrulle.h Khan. Mr. M. Eusoof. UNITED PROVINCES PROVINCIAL COMMITTEE. MADRAS PROVINCIAL COMMl'l'TEE. Mr. J. P. Srivaatava (Ohairman). Raja Khuahalpal Singh Bahadur, M.A., 'LL.B. Roo Bahadur Sir A. P. Patro, Kt. (Ohairman). Rai Bahadur Kunwar Bisheewar Dayal Seth, Diwan Bahadur S. K. Reddiyar. B.Sc. Kumara Raja of Venkatagari. Khan Bahadur Hafiz H. Huaain. B.A. Khan Bahadur P. KhaIif-ul-1e.h Sahib Bahadur. Dr. Shafa'at Abnlad Khan. M.A., Litt.D. Mr. Daniel Thomaa. Babu Re.nl8 Charana, B.A., LL.B. Mr. P. Siva Rao. Mr. H. C. Deaangea. Mr. N. Siva Raj.
NOTE.-The composition of the Joint Conference is given at the beginning of each day's evidence, and ill the same during the afternoon 88 during the moming seeeion unI.... otherwise stated. TABLE OF CONTENTS.
PAGB Memorandum by tJw Bomliay Cbamber of Com...... , I-Jl ,/ ML H. G. C{lCEB. President of Bombay .Chamber of Commerce 6-8
M...... r....dum of 1M Smvlar. ond InamdtlF. CenInJl Aaaociation, Bombay p,.~ '6-14 v M""""""'" by ProvinciDl C""f""""" c...... - of tJw Sardm-. ond InamdtlF. of tha Bombay ~ 16-19 Deputation from Sardars and Inamdars Central Association, Bombay Presidency 2G-1I8 Memorandum by Mr. A. N. S_ 29-30 M ....orandum by Mr. S. K. Bole • 31-32 Mr. A. N.· SUBVE and Mr. S. K. BOLB' 32-36
Memorandum by Dr. B. R. AmIHidk(Jr .... beJuJJ.f of tJw Depr_ed CIDa ... of 1M Bombay ~ • 37-47 Joint ~ by The DeprUBed 1M;" Aa8ociaI"", Bombay ond 1M S_ of Soma'lJtlf7Ulbi Socidy - . 46-51 DB. B .. R. AxmmKAB and DB. P. G. Sor..una, representing the Depressed CIaasee 52-61 Memorandum by Bombay Pf'OIJimial Non·Brahmi,. Ptmy 62-64 Memorandum by AU-IMia Mahrat14 ~. . . ,- 65-C6 MB. N. E. NAWALB and Mr. K. S. GllPTB, Bombay Provincial Non·Brahmin Party - 67-73 MB. N. E. NAWALB, MB. K. S, GllPTB, MB. G. lIL LLmlOB and MB. K. S. GUOBPADJO. 73-75 MB. G. lIL KALsUOB and MB. K. S. GUOBPADE, All India Mabratta League 75 M;",..;,.;.,.., ..... by Mr. A. M. K.' Dehwi on soi-ote EledmvJtu ond ROBervat"", of SootB - 76-78 Memorandum by CenInJl Labour Board, P'W'Ijab (now Central Loboor FethwaIion, Punjab) • 79-80 ./ Deputation from Central 'Labour Board, Punjab - 81-85 Memorandum by Pond;' Nanalc Chand, Nallimtal Reform Ptmy, P'W'Ijab 86-97 ,I?eputation from N",tio~ Ref,orm Part:!:, Punjab. 98-107
Memorandum by 1M AU·India Mll8lim ~ - • 106-111 M rmwrandN-m On beIialf of 1M A1ornMi!I!JfJ Cmimw.nity - 112-120 ~eputation from AIl·1ndia Muslim League -. - .121-134 Memorandum .... Sikh ReprOBentatirm by Chiof KMlaa Viwan, AmritBar 136-137. Deputation from Cm:E.- KuAL8A DIW...... 138-147 Memorandum by Punjab National UnirmiBta Party 148-152 Deputation from Punjab National Unioniste Party - 103-169 LALA IJAJtKIBm Memorandum from Karat:IK Chamber of C~ 216-220 v Deputation frolll Karachi Chamber of ~rce-. 221-227 MrmwrandN-m from AU·Sind Bifldu Aaoociat'irm 228-236 Deputation from AIl·Sind Hindu Association 237-247 Memorandum by 1M Khano of tJw N ortll W ..., Fronn.r Province - 248 M rmwrandN-m of Seroieu of Chiof. of FromUr 248 ;l{haDs' Deputation .'. - , . 249-266 M."."..",.dum by Bindu Parly; Nortll W..., FronIUr Province 260-:.268 Deputation of Provincial Hindu Conference • 266-264 M."."..",.dum by Soklul of Nortll WUI FromUr PrOtJi.... 265 Sikh Deputation - 265-267 Deputation from Advanced Muhammadan Party - 267-272 M""","",,",m on beJuJJ.f of 111. Anglo-Indian ond Domiciled European Communily of IMia 273-306 Deputation of AngIo.1ndian and Domiciled European Community - - - - 307-317 M""","",,",m by AU·IMia Conf...... ,.. oj Indian CIirioIiaM - 318-327 Deputation of Indian CluiBtiana - 327-333 M ....orandum from Ber Bighnuo 1M DOIDOIJ" Rani SahWa of Mandi - 334 l\L.uIAB&lIl or M.uml, MBa. Amun SUAB and MBa. CBIT.... """ -' - 334-338 Summary of 1M Memorandum of 1M M ...lima oj 1M Untied PrOtJinoeo 336-339 Deputation from Muslims of the United Provin.... - 34G-3f,7 • I!HO b TABLE OF CONTENTS. PAOB Memorandum l>y Mr. Ramo Chamna --- 347-352 Memorandum l>y AU-India'Shri- Jatm,. Mahambha 352-353 Memorandum by MUnBhi Han Tam/a - 353-354 Memorandum l>y Ram Pramd Ahir 354-355 Memorandum l>y Kahar SudhDrk Maha SaMa 35~357 Dep Ma. A. R. SARA YA, President, Subordinate Police Association, B_ '" 0_ 462-466 Memora~um l>y Bihar LandhDlders A.sociation 467-474 Memorandum l>y BiMr and Oniosa Muslim A ..ocioIion- 474-487 Memorandum l>y S'~ Ganeah Dmta Singh 487-495 Memorandum by Bihar provincial Sanatan Dhoram Sabho 495 Invitation -10 st.ibmu ...... nda 10 u.. Commission 496--497 INDEX J • 49S-l1oo DOCUMENTS TO WHICH FREQUENT REFERENCE IS MADE. t. FuU Title_ Usual Du""plWn_ Committee on Financial Reiationa between the Central and Pro Meston Committee Cmd. 7240{1920. vinci&! GovernmentAl in India- Report_ Report of-Taxfltion Enquiry Committee, 1925 - Todhunter Committee Government of Report. India publication. Report of North Weot Frontier Enquiry Committee, 1922 - Bray Committee Government of Report. India publication. -Report on Indian Constitutional Refonns - Montagu-Chelmsford Cmd. 9109 of 1918_ Report. Report of the Committee appointed by the Seeretary of State )'.anehiae Commi_ CmcL 141 of 1911. for India to enquire into questions connected with the Report_ Franchise -and other mattera relating to Constitutional Reform& -(Chalrma.ri: LoBD SOUTllBOBOUGH.) Report of the Royal Commission on the Superior Civil 8enJicea Lee Commission Cmcl. 1128 of 1924. in India. - - - Report. Report of Reforms Enquiry Committee Muddiman Committee Cmd. 1360 of 1915. Report.