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The transcript for the 18th meeting of the astronomy twitter journal club. We discussed the recent announcement of, and subsequent excitable media response to, exoplanet Kepler-22b. http://astrojournalclub.wordpress.com/2011/12/07/this-weeks-meeting-kepler-22b-hype-or-new- home/
What would you like to discuss in #astrojc this week? astronomyjc 2 days ago
@astronomyjc I think we should have @Matt_Burleigh discussing Kepler 22b :-) wikimir 2 days ago
@wikimir @astronomyjc love to.... If/when a paper ever appears..... Matt_Burleigh 2 days ago
@Matt_Burleigh @astronomyjc Yes, good point! wikimir 2 days ago
@astronomyjc Kepler-22b? antisophista 2 days ago
@astronomyjc more info on kepler-22b here http://t.co/qaAzBDyD and here http://t.co/9I1pSMQW (via @astrobites) #astrojc antisophista 2 days ago
Votes for Kepler22b (@antisophista & @wikimir) but there's no paper yet as @Matt_Burleigh points out How about we discuss the hype? #astrojc astronomyjc 1 day ago
@astronomyjc yes, please discuss Kepler 22b hype (Topic of my astro tutorial with 3rd yr undergrads today) incl. range in planet's temp & g. Paul_Crowther 1 day ago
By popular demand (i.e. 3 votes) #astrojc will discuss Kepler22b & the surrounding hype tomorrow, 20:10 GMT http://t.co/s2HhJ3t2 astronomyjc 1 day ago
“@AstroPHYPapers: Kepler-22b: A 2.4 Earth-radius Planet in the Habitable Zone of a Sun- like Star. http://t.co/xMrNYAa9” cc @astronomyjc antisophista 1 day ago
There's now a paper to go with the Kepler-22b press release http://t.co/SZZdY89R #astrojc astronomyjc 1 day ago
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#astrojc MT @KarenLMasters: "what scientists were quick to label a twin of Earth" http://t.co/upLAp8DL - yes it's all the scientists fault! astronomyjc 22 hours ago
"Kepler 22b – hype or new home?" #astrojc discussion tonight, 20:10GMT - Please join in! I might not have... http://t.co/JccBGMVf Astronomnomy 20 hours ago
Another Earth? http://t.co/gHqHbqVG incl. "In truth, the term `Earthlike' is a stretch" via @TheEconomist HEC: http://t.co/P5hrpuFC #astrojc Paul_Crowther 16 hours ago
Hi everyone & welcome to the 18th meeting of #astrojc. Today's topic: Kepler-22b - new home or much hype? astronomyjc 15 hours ago
(preview & links: http://t.co/3cwRIo5h ) #astrojc astronomyjc 15 hours ago
All discussion contributions up to and including ranting welcome! #astrojc astronomyjc 15 hours ago
Hi everyone, greetingz from the Netherlands, situated too in the habitable zone. #astrojc AdrianusV 15 hours ago
#astrojc Hello, I'm Matthew - my views are already on record, 'cause I wrote the "habitability primer" on the JC page. DrMRFrancis 15 hours ago
From the abstract: "Although there is no evidence that Kepler-22b is a rocky planet... #astrojc astronomyjc 15 hours ago
..., it is the first confirmed planet with a measured radius to orbit in the Habitable Zone of any star other than the Sun." #astrojc astronomyjc 15 hours ago
Does that statement justify the hype? #astrojc astronomyjc 14 hours ago
(here's the paper BTW http://t.co/SZZdY89R It came out today, several days after the press release) #astrojc astronomyjc 14 hours ago
Seems clear that much hype from the media at least. Main issue is whthr or not this is good for Astronomy or not #astrojc
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wikimir 14 hours ago
@astronomyjc don't think so, we have also HD 85512 b and Gliese 581 d. Both are confirmed too. #astrojc AdrianusV 14 hours ago
@AdrianusV Radii aren't known for those, and isn't Gliese 581 d in question? #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
@wikimir Could argue that all publicity is good publicity.... #astrojc astronomyjc 14 hours ago
To be fair, press release didn't claim it's an Earth twin - that was media hype after the fact. #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
@wikimir Though I do worry that when we do finally find a true 'Earth-twin' the public won't care because media cried wolf before #astrojc astronomyjc 14 hours ago
@astronomyjc That is essentially the issue. Concern might be that you can only cry wolf so many times #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
The main issue is that news is more political than scientific. Kepler struggles to get mission life extended #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
@astronomyjc couldn't agree more #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
@DrMRFrancis Exactly - press release was much more measured: "This is a major milestone on the road to finding Earth's twin" #astrojc astronomyjc 14 hours ago
(NASA press release is at http://t.co/X4VQtawW) #astrojc astronomyjc 14 hours ago
And it *is* and interesting object - I love thinking & writing about it. We just need to spread the love w/out hype. #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
@antisophista Could you briefly summarise the political situation re Kepler - I'm not really sure how it stands #astrojc astronomyjc 14 hours ago
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Does seem like the press release was quite measured and the media went a little over the top #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
@astronomyjc as far as I know, Kepler is at the end of its expected mission life time. They need to get funds to keep it going. #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
@DrMRFrancis How can we make sure that's the message the media get though? #astrojc astronomyjc 14 hours ago
Do you know the Habitable Exoplanets Catalog (HEC)? http://t.co/4Dy5yY7N It contains 2 "confirmed" exoplanets in habitable zone. #astrojc AdrianusV 14 hours ago
#astrojc IMO, Kepler-22 paper is convincing and appropriate. Hype is inevitable, but Wash. Post article is balanced http://t.co/aKax1YZe johngizis 14 hours ago
@astronomyjc That's always a tough question. We should write, and submit, and infiltrate the media. ;) #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
launch was in 2009. Mission lifetime of 3.5 years. So it is nearly over. #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
Part of the problem is that soundbites are easy, but determining actual habitability takes background and nuance. #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
@antisophista @astronomyjc Is there real value in extending life? Kepler's chances of finding true Earth-twin slim #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
@antisophista There's definitely anger around at possible political playing: http://t.co/yeOSwJyO #astrojc astronomyjc 14 hours ago
Some people from PLATO mission (e.g. Don Pollacco) are complaining http://t.co/qaAzBDyD #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
I think planets like Kepler-22b, HD 85512 b and Gliese 581 will make it easier to get budgets for Kepler successor. #astrojc AdrianusV 14 hours ago
@wikimir that's why the press release is so blown up. they're trying to sell us and the public
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promises... "we're nearly there" #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
@astronomyjc Was going to ask what people thought of this BBC article #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
@astronomyjc To be fair, Kepler team: "major milestone on the road to finding Earth's twin" is more measured than media's reaction. #astrojc Paul_Crowther 14 hours ago
#astrojc MT @Kepler22b_REAL We're both homey & the most hype planet. Let me know if you have questions as I am THE planet itself, Kepler22b. astronomyjc 14 hours ago
what's also at least a little bit strange: paper will be published in ApJ and not Nature or Science... #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
@antisophista Certainly, but it may be optimal to what for successor rather than extend Kepler (for example). #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
I think the accusation is mostly unfair. Reasonable to promote the science, esp. in the face of ending the mission. #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
#astrojc Why is there a desire to find an Earth-twin? Surely anything that can possibly support life is desirable to find? iaconnelly 14 hours ago
Kepler extension would extend detection stats in orbital radius/period, slightly in radius? add uniquely to primary mission numbers #astrojc NGC3314 14 hours ago
@antisophista I don't think that's so strange - ApJ is more technical than either Nature or Science - aimed at professionals. #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
@antisophista what's wrong with publishing in ApJ? #astrojc AdrianusV 14 hours ago
@iaconnelly An 'Earth-twin' is an easy sell to the public - I think that's why it's a popular concept #astrojc astronomyjc 14 hours ago
@DrMRFrancis Absolutely, it does seem like the hype was the media rather than anything else #astrojc
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wikimir 14 hours ago
@AdrianusV nothing at all. But usually the work of these kind of press releases appear in Nature... all I am saying #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
@DrMRFrancis @antisophista Yes but Nature or Science is where you'd generally put a big splashy result surely? #astrojc astronomyjc 14 hours ago
@Kepler22b_REAL Anything to add to our discussion? Are you over-hyped? #astrojc astronomyjc 14 hours ago
Seems like we still haven't addressed if this kind of coverage is ultimately good for us or not #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
@DrMRFrancis @antisophista WMAP went to ApJ but I thought it odd. Nature/Science (incl supp material) is plenty technical enough #astrojc StephenSerjeant 14 hours ago
@astronomyjc @antisophista choice of journal may be mandated by other things, incl. author preference. I see nothing unusual in it #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
@astronomyjc While Kepler22b fails an "Earth-like" test even for the most optimistic assumptions here: http://t.co/P5hrpuFC #astrojc Paul_Crowther 14 hours ago
#astrojc RT @Kepler22b_REAL: @astronomyjc I am not overhyped. I am everything and more you have all written about. God vacations here. astronomyjc 14 hours ago
stephane udry's comment: "The Kepler people really sound [...] as car dealers. They need a mission extension [...]" #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
Science has the responsibility not to sacrifice truth for the sake of funding and politics. Whatever the truth might be ... #astrojc mgruberb 14 hours ago
@StephenSerjeant WMAP also had a huge web-based public outreach campaign. #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
@wikimir is right - we should discuss whether this kind of coverage is good or bad for astronomy publicity. Thoughts? #astrojc astronomyjc 14 hours ago
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@DrMRFrancis well... is a possibility. But if I could choose, I'd go with Nature... (knowing how the carreer ladder works) #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
@astronomyjc Biggest problem with Kepler22b is that 1AU @ 200pc = 5mas from star, so no way to check biomarkers so close to host. #astrojc Paul_Crowther 14 hours ago
@mgruberb absolutely. This is what I think Kepler did though. Push as much as possible to get money which they [don't] deserve [?] #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
#astrojc can hardly imagine what the media will do if we find a bona fide Earth 2.0 dh4gan 14 hours ago
it's not about whether it is good for "us". it is good for some astronomers and bad for others... #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
@astronomyjc I think this kind of publicity is good for astronomy. Makes exoplanets more closer to 'your neighbourhood' #astrojc AdrianusV 14 hours ago
Also, are the comment in the BBC article sensible or damaging http://t.co/25vUHQfS #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
I think it *can* be good for astronomy, but we need better/more accurate media coverage. People should know about exoplanets! #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
@antisophista The ultimate price to pay for stuff like this is people's trust, not a few million to keep funding a mission. #astrojc mgruberb 14 hours ago
@antisophista So you don't think that we need to worry about crying wolf? #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
@wikimir @antisophista Did Kepler cry wolf? I'm not convinced. #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
@DrMRFrancis I would agree. This was interesting without the hype #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
@DrMRFrancis and people do. exoplanets are sexy. but why is there a press release for every exoplanet (so it feels at least) #astrojc
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antisophista 14 hours ago
@DrMRFrancis @antisophista That's not what I was suggesting. The perception of crying wolf is what I meant #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
@DrMRFrancis I think they did. They were fully aware of what would happen once they released this press release #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
@antisophista A lot of people asked me about 22b who NEVER ask about this kind of stuff. I just couldn't "teach the controversy" #astrojc mgruberb 14 hours ago
@astronomyjc #astrojc Thanks. Are we literally talking same size; type of star; temperature etc in the to be a "real" Earth-twin? iaconnelly 14 hours ago
Are you blaming Kepler-Team for doing bad science? bad PR? Or are you blaming the media? Tweets sound a little bit confusing #astrojc astrodicticum 14 hours ago
Science press releases aren't inherently bad, but hard to control media narrative once release is out there. We want ppl to know! #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
@mgruberb Interesting point. The controversy itself might be interesting #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
@iaconnelly Similar type of star, planet is much bigger - see the links here http://t.co/jsGlVBPM #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
@astrodicticum I think the cnsnss is that it was the media that overhyped the situation, not Kepler. Press release seemed measured #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
@astrodicticum I for one am saying that a press release was not warranted for this finding even if the science itself looks solid #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
RT @DrMRFrancis: Science press releases aren't inherently bad, but hard to control media narrative once release is out there. We want ppl to know! #astrojc ejwillingham 14 hours ago
@antisophista How *should* you handle such a discovery? "We found an exciting planet. But PLEASE dont be excited?" Thats silly... #astrojc astrodicticum 14 hours ago
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who writes the press release, the scientific team or just PR-managers? #astrojc AdrianusV 14 hours ago
@iaconnelly Yes, I'd say a true 'Earth-twin' should be observed to have similar temp, of a similar size & at similar radius to us #astrojc astronomyjc 14 hours ago
Doesn't controversy here center on (almost undefined) meaning of "Earthlike"? I.e. in Drake eqn we don't know what it means... #astrojc NGC3314 14 hours ago
@astrodicticum well... following your path, we should write a press release for every single paper we publish. #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
@antisophista @astrodicticum I don't have an issue with the press release. Can't know what individuals may have said to journs tho #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
@DrMRFrancis IMO press release writing is rarely if ever so naive at to create SURPRISING hype. #astrojc StephenSerjeant 14 hours ago
@antisophista Why not? If you think your research is good, tell the world! I have no problem with that. #astrojc astrodicticum 14 hours ago
Following @iaconnelly's question: what would we have to see to confirm we'd found a true 'Earth-twin'? #astrojc astronomyjc 14 hours ago
@NGC3314 I disagree. We can define Earth-like. We can't know what is definitively habitable tho #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
True. RT @wikimir: @NGC3314 I disagree. We can define Earth-like. We can't know what is definitively habitable tho #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
@astrodicticum you might not. but a press release is more political than you think. our director *forbade* to send one out because #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
Venus and Mars are Earthlike: if we find exoplanet analogs to them, we'd justifiably wet our pants with excitement. #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
@astrodicticum he thinks our work is not important for gen public #astrojc
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antisophista 14 hours ago
@DrMRFrancis See: The 123 Steps for Identifying Habitable Worlds http://t.co/zl5saflk #astrojc Earth-like can be defined, apparently AdrianusV 14 hours ago
@AdrianusV "Habitable" is going to remain ill-defined until we find actual life. I don't find myself caring that much. #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
@antisophista I am no fan of this kind of paternalism. Thats exactly what creates the stupid "ivory tower" mentality #astrojc astrodicticum 14 hours ago
#astrojc RT @billhousley: @astronomyjc matching spectography for starters. RE: Earth Twi8n astronomyjc 14 hours ago
@DrMRFrancis practical question: is Mars habitable? #astrojc AdrianusV 14 hours ago
That's the real question, isn't it? We don't know 100% yet. RT @AdrianusV: practical question: is Mars habitable? #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
there are other earth-like planets in habitable zones. 22b is not the first one. it's the first around a sun-like star. #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
@AdrianusV Also, maybe Mars *was* habitable but is no longer. #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
RT @AdrianusV: who writes the press release, the scientific team or just PR-managers? #astrojc cc @fernandomejiasb @GonzaloArgando Moreycanoles 14 hours ago
@antisophista Yes, and that's why this is a landmark. Maybe not as significant as we would like, but still interesting! #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
There is IMO an issue with Univ. press off. Their priority is getting into the media. Our responsibility is being honest #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
Also landmark is this not a Superearth. It's closer to our size. #astrojc billhousley 14 hours ago
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@billhousley Depends what you mean. Could be more than 10 times the mass #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
@billhousley how do you know? #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
Problem: habitability is ill-defined, earth-like is ill-defined, even life is ill-defined (Arsenicium bacteria GFAJ-1 discussion) #astrojc AdrianusV 14 hours ago
Ok, if we agree that Kepler 22b has been overhyped, how could a story like this be better managed in the future? #astrojc astronomyjc 14 hours ago
@wikimir @billhousley @antisophista For a planet the term "size" is incredibly inadequate and confusing - especially for the public.#astrojc mgruberb 14 hours ago
They estimate it based on it's orbit and the influence it has on the motion of the parent star. #astrojc billhousley 14 hours ago
@AdrianusV Personally I think Earth-like is easy to define. Maybe, we just haven't done it formally yet #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
@astronomyjc "how could a story like this be better managed in the future" Just the facts, ma'am? #astrojc AdrianusV 14 hours ago
@billhousley have you seen the RV data? They themselves admit that they can only put an upper limit on its mass #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
@mgruberb @billhousley @antisophista Precisely. #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
RT @astronomyjc: Ok, if we agree that Kepler 22b has been overhyped, how could a story like this be better managed in the future? #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
@billhousley In this case it is a transit only. No stellar radial velocity measurements yet. Mass unknown. #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
These stories are being managed...directed. That's the problem. Overhype is the goal. #astrojc
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billhousley 14 hours ago
@AdrianusV @astronomyjc not sure. any exoplanet is a hot topic and any such press release (on exos) will lead to a media hype #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
I don't have a clear answer. I'm not a journalist or PR person, but I want people to know about cool science ... #astrojc [1/2] DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
@mgruberb Very true. 'Size' could be radius or mass or volume & they're very different! #astrojc astronomyjc 14 hours ago
@wikimir definition Earth-like seems easy, but remember the IAU defined the term planet only in 2006 (exit Pluto). #astrojc AdrianusV 14 hours ago
... *even if* that science isn't paradigm-busting or truly "new". Kepler-22b is exciting - can we share that without hype? #astrojc [2/2] DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
@astronomyjc Maybe we do need to define Earth-like so that press releases can say "probably not Earth-like" for example #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
#astrojc Hi. If it were placed in our solar system, would it be considered a terrestrial planet? What would be its orbit compared to (1/2) christinedantas 14 hours ago
These stories are being managed...to achieve overhype. #astrojc billhousley 14 hours ago
@AdrianusV Definition of planet by IAU in 2006 was only for those in the Solar System #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
#astrojc the other planets of our system? This kind of info is IMO what is more easly grasped by the public. (2/2) christinedantas 14 hours ago
@billhousley see this comparison between systems around the sun and Kepler-22: http://t.co/500mPgH1 #astrojc AdrianusV 14 hours ago
@billhousley Having dealt with the media (infrequently) not convinced that it is being managed by scientists #astrojc
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@christinedantas concerning orbit: http://t.co/2qfzBDmu #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
@christinedantas Might be terrestrial, might not: we don't know its mass yet. #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
@christinedantas oops, that link was meant for you, not @billhousley :-) #astrojc AdrianusV 14 hours ago
@christinedantas What we don't know (and won't for some time) is the composition. Could be a water planet, unlike anything in SS #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
But THIS conversation is why Kepler-22b is interesting: so much to think about, so much to learn. Why people need to know. #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
Last few minutes of the official discussion - any final thoughts? #astrojc astronomyjc 14 hours ago
RT @DrMRFrancis: But THIS conversation is why Kepler-22b is interesting: so much to think about, so much to learn. Why people need to know. #astrojc wikimir 14 hours ago
@antisophista This picture might be the true culprit. It suggests "Kepler 22b simply looks like a bigger Earth. Ocean, clouds ...". #astrojc mgruberb 14 hours ago
@antisophista #astrojc Yes, thanks, but is that the press release you are all talking about (the one which hyped)? christinedantas 14 hours ago
i think the press release would have been better without the words "Earth-like planets", "Earth's twin" and a Earth-looking pic #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
@DrMRFrancis #astrojc Ok, that's important. christinedantas 14 hours ago
@antisophista What would be a better description: a planet somewhere between Super- earth and Earth? #astrojc AdrianusV 14 hours ago
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Heh, I've written so much about Kepler-22b, it's hard to summarize briefly. #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
Just tell the folks we teach that Earth-like still isn't oceans/land/clouds/and birdies necessarily. #astrojc billhousley 14 hours ago
@mgruberb That's a good point - that press release picture is very misleading #astrojc astronomyjc 14 hours ago
@antisophista #astrojc Agreed. Earth-twin is misleading (at least for now). Like the God particle... :S christinedantas 14 hours ago
RT @DrMRFrancis: RT @astronomyjc: Ok, if we agree that Kepler 22b has been overhyped, how could a story like this be better managed in the future? #astrojc astVintageSpace 14 hours ago
@CatherineQ Actually, your input on this conversation would be cool - discussing whether Kepler-22b is overhyped. #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
Agreed. RT @astronomyjc: @mgruberb That's a good point - that press release picture is very misleading #astrojc DrMRFrancis 14 hours ago
@AdrianusV just say Exoplanet without mentioning "Earth" all the time #astrojc antisophista 14 hours ago
It's still exciting...no matter how stuffy we want to be publically. #astrojc billhousley 14 hours ago
@antisophista yep, agree. #dontmentioneartheverytime #astrojc AdrianusV 14 hours ago
I think the press release was adequate, but the artists impression took over the narrative in the media. #astrojc mgruberb 14 hours ago
#astrojc I think saying things like "habitable zone" is enough for me to appreciate the importance, rather than comparing to Earth. iaconnelly 13 hours ago
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billhousley 13 hours ago
@iaconnelly But that's because you know what "habitable" implies. You can't necessarily assume that for the general public #astrojc mgruberb 13 hours ago
I agree. “@mgruberb: I think the press release was adequate, but the artists impression took over the narrative in the media. #astrojc” christinedantas 13 hours ago
Thanks everyone for that lively discussion! I'm off now, but please carry on without me if you've got more to say #astrojc astronomyjc 13 hours ago
@astronomyjc Visual depictions have this problem - except for blank outlines, must make choices about unknown attributes.#astrojc NGC3314 13 hours ago
#astrojc They should have only pictured the relative orbit to our SS & the planet as a black disk (to scale) w/ "?" mark inside—not bad, no? christinedantas 13 hours ago
#astrojc Sorry I missed the discussion, fast asleep in Oz. Just to make a couple of points.... Matt_Burleigh 11 hours ago
#astrojc Plato people are angry bcse their proposed mission got turned down by ESA partly bcse some of the decision makers believe.... Matt_Burleigh 11 hours ago
#astrojc ...."Kepler will do it all". Hence when exaggerated results appear it's not surprising they are angry Matt_Burleigh 11 hours ago
#astrojc "all publicity is good publicity" but risk of damagng Keplers reputation in other scientists eyes, just when they need more funding Matt_Burleigh 11 hours ago
#astrojc remains to be seen how better candidates for Earth-like planets will be reported. Cant know whether we've "cried Wolf" once 2 often Matt_Burleigh 11 hours ago
#astrojc Plato mission take on Kepler 22b can be found here: “@PLATOMissionCon: PLATO Newsletter #2 http://t.co/LKkZ4Trv” Matt_Burleigh 9 hours ago
RT @Matt_Burleigh: #astrojc Plato mission take on Kepler 22b can be found here: “@PLATOMissionCon: PLATO Newsletter #2 http://t.co/LKkZ4Trv” wikimir 4 hours ago
RT @Matt_Burleigh: #astrojc Plato mission take on Kepler 22b can be found here: Page 15 of 16 http://chirpstory.com/dialog_embed/3351 09/12/2011 11:16
RT @Matt_Burleigh: #astrojc Plato mission take on Kepler 22b can be found here: “@PLATOMissionCon: PLATO Newsletter #2 http://t.co/fIePuq4D” antisophista 1 hour ago
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