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PLATO’S EXPLANATORY PREDICATION A Dissertation Presented to the Faculty of the Graduate School of Cornell University in Partial Fulfillment of the Requirements for the Degree of Doctor of Philosophy by Saul Gordon Rosenthal January 2011 © 2011 Saul Gordon Rosenthal All rights reserved PLATO’S EXPLANATORY PREDICATION Saul Gordon Rosenthal, Ph. D. Cornell University 2011 One of the most classic puzzles in Plato’s metaphysics is how to interpret his apparently self-predicational language. Plato seems committed, at least in his middle dialogues, to the view that for all forms, the form of F “is F”. For instance, he seems to say that the form of largeness itself “is large”, and to generalize this claim to all forms. Commentators have struggled to find an interpretation of such claims that is consistent with Plato’s text and that attributes to Plato a view with some plausibility. One aim of this dissertation is to show that we have good reason to doubt all of the most influential interpretations offered by commentators. The views discussed include Narrow Self-Predication, the Tautologous Identity view, two Non- Tautologous Identity views, the Pauline Predication view, Broad Self-Predication, and a view distinguishing different kinds of predication. It is doubtful whether any of these interpretations correctly captures Plato’s self-predicational commitments. Another aim of the dissertation is to argue that the textual evidence most often thought to commit Plato to the Self-Predication Assumption (SP), that for all forms, the form of F is itself an F thing, is insufficient to establish such a commitment. One chapter focuses on Plato’s repeated discussion of the resemblance between form and participant. -
Plato Apology of Socrates and Crito
COLLEGE SERIES OF GREEK AUTHORS EDITED UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF JOHN WILLIAMS WHITE, LEWIS R. PACKARD, a n d THOMAS D. SEYMOUR. PLATO A p o l o g y o f S o c r a t e s AND C r i t o EDITED ON THE BASIS OF CRON’S EDITION BY LOUIS DYER A s s i s t a n t ·Ρι;Οχ'ε&^ο^ ι ν ^University. BOSTON: PUBLISHED BY GINN & COMPANY. 1902. I P ■ C o p · 3 Entered, according to Act of Congress, in the year 1885, by J o h n W il l ia m s W h i t e a n d T h o m a s D. S e y m o u r , In the Office of the Librarian of Congress, at Washington. J . S. C u s h in g & Co., P r i n t e r s , B o s t o n . PREFACE. T his edition of the Apology of Socrates and the Crito is based upon Dr. Christian Cron’s eighth edition, Leipzig, 1882. The Notes and Introduction here given have in the main been con fined within the limits intelligently drawn by Dr. Cron, whose commentaries upon various dialogues of Plato have done and still do so much in Germany to make the study of our author more profitable as well as pleasanter. No scruple has been felt, how ever, in making changes. I trust there are few if any of these which Dr. Cron might not himself make if he were preparing his work for an English-thinking and English-speaking public. -
Theory of Forms 1 Theory of Forms
Theory of Forms 1 Theory of Forms Plato's theory of Forms or theory of Ideas[1] [2] [3] asserts that non-material abstract (but substantial) forms (or ideas), and not the material world of change known to us through sensation, possess the highest and most fundamental kind of reality.[4] When used in this sense, the word form is often capitalized.[5] Plato speaks of these entities only through the characters (primarily Socrates) of his dialogues who sometimes suggest that these Forms are the only true objects of study that can provide us with genuine knowledge; thus even apart from the very controversial status of the theory, Plato's own views are much in doubt.[6] Plato spoke of Forms in formulating a possible solution to the problem of universals. Forms Terminology: the Forms and the forms The English word "form" may be used to translate two distinct concepts that concerned Plato—the outward "form" or appearance of something, and "Form" in a new, technical nature, that never ...assumes a form like that of any of the things which enter into her; ... But the forms which enter into and go out of her are the likenesses of real existences modelled after their patterns in a wonderful and inexplicable manner.... The objects that are seen, according to Plato, are not real, but literally mimic the real Forms. In the allegory of the cave expressed in Republic, the things that are ordinarily perceived in the world are characterized as shadows of the real things, which are not perceived directly. That which the observer understands when he views the world mimics the archetypes of the many types and properties (that is, of universals) of things observed. -
Protagoras 330-1 David Wol£Sdorf
~tKatO<J"UVll and 'Qc.nem,c; at Protagoras 330-1 David Wol£sdorf I Introduction and Review In an argument in Protagoras for the similarity of Ol1WlO(j'\JVTj and oCH6'tTj~ Socrates introduces the following set of propositions: 1 (1) OtKalO(j'\JVT] is OtKlXlOV. 2 (2) oCH6'tTj~ is OCHOV. 3 (3) OtKlX lO(j'\JVTj is ocrWV. 4 (4) oCH6'tT]~ is otKawv. iI , I The meanings of (1)-(4) remain controversial. The objective of this paper is to give an update on the state of the discussion and to offer my own interpretation. The words 'OtKlXtOOUVTj' and 'OtKlXtoV' are typically translated as 'jus- tice' and 'just'. Thus, (1) is rendered as 'Justice is just'. The words '6CH6'tT1~' and 'ocrtoV' are typically translated as 'piety' or 'holiness' and 'pious' or 'holy'. But 'piety' and 'holiness' are not synonyms. Humans and their actions can be pious or holy, but inanimate objects can be holy, 330c4-dl 2 330d2-el 3 331a7-b3 4 331a7-b3 182 David Wolfsdorf ~lKato(jUVT\ and 'CXn6'!T\~ at Protagoras 330-1 183 but not pious. Thus, it is unclear whether to translate (2)-(4) as 'Holiness defined, is a condition that can only occur within a metaphysical discur- is holy', 'Justice is holy', and 'Holiness is just', or 'Piety is pious', 'Justice sive context.9 is pious', and 'Piety is just'. For much of the paper I will retain the original Insofar as the condition of self-predication depends upon the subject Greek and render the key words in English only where necessary. -
On the Arrangement of the Platonic Dialogues
Ryan C. Fowler 25th Hour On the Arrangement of the Platonic Dialogues I. Thrasyllus a. Diogenes Laertius (D.L.), Lives and Opinions of Eminent Philosophers 3.56: “But, just as long ago in tragedy the chorus was the only actor, and afterwards, in order to give the chorus breathing space, Thespis devised a single actor, Aeschylus a second, Sophocles a third, and thus tragedy was completed, so too with philosophy: in early times it discoursed on one subject only, namely physics, then Socrates added the second subject, ethics, and Plato the third, dialectics, and so brought philosophy to perfection. Thrasyllus says that he [Plato] published his dialogues in tetralogies, like those of the tragic poets. Thus they contended with four plays at the Dionysia, the Lenaea, the Panathenaea and the festival of Chytri. Of the four plays the last was a satiric drama; and the four together were called a tetralogy.” b. Characters or types of dialogues (D.L. 3.49): 1. instructive (ὑφηγητικός) A. theoretical (θεωρηµατικόν) a. physical (φυσικόν) b. logical (λογικόν) B. practical (πρακτικόν) a. ethical (ἠθικόν) b. political (πολιτικόν) 2. investigative (ζητητικός) A. training the mind (γυµναστικός) a. obstetrical (µαιευτικός) b. tentative (πειραστικός) B. victory in controversy (ἀγωνιστικός) a. critical (ἐνδεικτικός) b. subversive (ἀνατρεπτικός) c. Thrasyllan categories of the dialogues (D.L. 3.50-1): Physics: Timaeus Logic: Statesman, Cratylus, Parmenides, and Sophist Ethics: Apology, Crito, Phaedo, Phaedrus, Symposium, Menexenus, Clitophon, the Letters, Philebus, Hipparchus, Rivals Politics: Republic, the Laws, Minos, Epinomis, Atlantis Obstetrics: Alcibiades 1 and 2, Theages, Lysis, Laches Tentative: Euthyphro, Meno, Io, Charmides and Theaetetus Critical: Protagoras Subversive: Euthydemus, Gorgias, and Hippias 1 and 2 :1 d. -
Abstract of 'Platonic Participation'
1 Abstract of ‘Platonic Participation’ The Republic presents us with a standard account of the Theory of Forms, especially in the discussion of the difference between knowledge and opinion. But we also get in the Republic the only passage in the Platonic corpus that gives some sort of reasoned account of what is meant by participation, I mean the analogy of the Sun. A feature of this analogy is that, properly taken, it answers one of the criticisms of participation that Parmenides levels against Socrates in the Parmenides . The Republic also gives, in other places, an account of how forms and particulars can be said to be like each other that answers Parmenides’ criticism based on the likeness regress. For this reason, as well as for several others, the chronological division of the Platonic dialogues into early and middle and late should be rejected, and the Parmenides should not be read, as scholars do now read it, as posing problems for the Theory of Forms given in the Republic , but the Republic should be read as giving answers to the problems posed in the Parmenides . But while the Republic successfully answers criticisms from Parmenides in the Parmenides , it does not answer, and cannot answer, criticisms from Aristotle in the Metaphysics . This is because the Republic is distinctive among Platonic dialogues in talking, and talking at length, about particulars as participating in being and not just as participating in the beautiful or the just or the like. For while some sense can be made of speaking of participation in the just or the beautiful, no sense at all can be made of speaking of participation in being. -
The Form of the Good in Plato's Timaeus
THANASSIS GKATZARAS | 71 One of the many philosophical problems The Form of the Good in that we face in the Timaeus is raised by the Plato’s Timaeus claim that the God who created the world (from now on we shall call him ‘Demiurge’)1 is good (Tim. 29d7-30a2). A satisfying explanation of Demiurge’s goodness is far from easy, and dif- ferent approaches have been proposed. How- ever, in this paper I’ll try to show that a clear, sufficient and relatively simple interpretation is possible, if we are based on the hypothesis that Timaeus follows the theory of causation in the Phaedo (including the distinction between ‘safe’ and ‘elegant’ cause) and the concept of the Thanassis Gkatzaras Form of the Good in the Republic.2 University of Ioannina [email protected] To be more specific, I’ll try to show that the Form of the Good of the Republic is also presupposed in the Timaeus and it plays the same role, and we should consider it as a first principle of platonic cosmology, independ- ent from the existence of Demiurge or even the Divine Paradigm (i.e. the model accord- ing to which the Demiurge creates the world). On first impression, this interpretation looks barely possible, since there is no direct refer- ence in the text to this particular Form, with the possible exception of what is said at Tim. 46c7-d1.3 In my opinion, this absence has to do ABSTRACT with specific purposes Timaeus serves, and not with the abandonment of the Good as a cause. -
Rethinking Plato's Theory of Art: Aesthetics and the Timaeus
Rethinking Plato’s Theory of Art: Aesthetics and the Timaeus Omid Tofighian Introduction The Timaeus presents a fascinating account of the cosmos. It includes a creation myth that introduces the figure known as the ‘Demiurge’, who, despite the fact that he is the cause of the sensible world, is reverently attributed with reason, and whose creation – the cosmos – is actually beautiful and good. In this dialogue Plato offers his readers a panorama of the universe. But just what are his intentions for this? Is his approach a precursor to the methods of natural science,1 or does the Timaeus fall under the category of theology? This paper will discuss Plato’s cosmological treatise and certain consequences that can be drawn, that is, how the methods used to analyse the origins and structure of the universe reveal a more existential attitude towards aesthetics. In the Timaeus Plato explores the complexities of mimesis and entertains the possibility that imitation could actually exhibit ideal qualities. These considerations have repercussions for the status of the material world in Plato’s cosmology, but they may also be extended to rethink his theory of art. I wish to analyse a number of salient themes in the Timaeus such as ontology, mythic symbols and the use of rhetoric. I will demonstrate how Plato’s view towards these themes in the Timaeus can be extrapolated to reassess his aesthetics. My critical analysis will provoke the question – ‘What evaluation of art would Plato have offered in accordance with the positions explicated in the Timaeus?’ Upon investigating a number of dialogues, searching specifically for references to art or representation, I realised that certain views I had thought to be exclusive to the Timaeus, or other late dialogues, also featured in works as early as the Ion. -
The Rationality of Plato's Theory of Good and Evil
Wilfrid Laurier University Scholars Commons @ Laurier Theses and Dissertations (Comprehensive) 1979 The Rationality of Plato’s Theory of Good and Evil Allan A. Davis Wilfrid Laurier University Follow this and additional works at: https://scholars.wlu.ca/etd Part of the Philosophy Commons Recommended Citation Davis, Allan A., "The Rationality of Plato’s Theory of Good and Evil" (1979). Theses and Dissertations (Comprehensive). 1508. https://scholars.wlu.ca/etd/1508 This Thesis is brought to you for free and open access by Scholars Commons @ Laurier. It has been accepted for inclusion in Theses and Dissertations (Comprehensive) by an authorized administrator of Scholars Commons @ Laurier. For more information, please contact [email protected]. ABSTRACT Plato has been called the "father of rational theology." This thesis is an attempt to examine in the light of contemporary Platonic scholarship five of Plato's essentially religious doctrines insofar as they support the idea that Plato's theory of good and evil is rational. Chapters 1 and 2 examine the plausibility of Plato's theory of knowledge. Chapter 3 states briefly his theory of Forms, while Chapter 4 attempts to give this doctrine credence by analysing those aspects of it which seem least convincing. Chapters 5 and 6 consider Plato's theory of soul and conclude that, although some of his beliefs in this area lack credibility, his interpretation of the nature and function of soul is basically plausible. Chapters 7 and 8 examine the rationality of Plato's Idea of the Good. Chapter 9 sketches his notion of balance and proportion and, in conclusion, Chapter 10 attempts to show how this theory provides an underlying credibility not only to all the theories discussed but also to Plato's theory of good and evil in its entirety. -
THE MATHEMATICAL COSMOLOGY of PLATO's TIMAEUS Introduction
THE MATHEMATICAL COSMOLOGY OF PLATO’S TIMAEUS [419] Introduction In this paper I argue that Plato’s Timaeus should be understood in light of the purportedly Socratic ‘autobiography’ in Phaedo 96–100, even though the Apology claims that Socrates took little or no interest in cosmological speculation. Extant reports (Met. 987b1–3) about Socrates’ philosophical activity also testify to his lack of interest in mathematics and in physics, while the early ‘Socratic’ dialogues consistently con ne him to pursuing moral questions by means of his famous elenctic method. By contrast, the Meno presents a ‘Socrates’ who uses mathematical diagrams to teach a slave boy something about geometry, so as to illustrate and defend a theory of recollection which can hardly be attributed to the historical Socrates. Finally the Phaedo, which develops a more elaborate version of this theory, the so- called ‘autobiography’ of Socrates, tells about an early interest in cosmological speculation which he gave up in disappointment because it failed to answer his questions. This inconsistency in the representation of Socrates I see as a clear hint that in the Meno and Phaedo Plato is self-consciously going beyond his mentor by introducing the hypothetical method of mathematics, combined with a metaphysical and epistemological theory of recollection. Furthermore, I claim that the so-called ‘autobiographical’ passage in the Phaedo can be treated as Plato’s own path to the cosmological theory which is developed fully in the Timaeus. Since this cosmology is narrated by a Pythagorean from Sicily in the sort of ‘long speech’ which Socrates deplored, it is quite clear that Plato has abandoned any pretence of merely expanding the ideas of his mentor. -
Agathological Realism:* Searching for the Good Beyond Subjectivity and Objectivity Or on the Importance of Being Platonic
Etica & Politica / Ethics & Politics, XVI, 2014, 2, pp. 533-549 Agathological Realism:* Searching for the Good Beyond Subjectivity and Objectivity or On the Importance of Being Platonic Salvatore Lavecchia Università degli Studi di Udine [email protected] ABSTRACT Pointing to a radical concept of 'self-givingness' and self-transcendence, Plato’s notion of good offers a valuable means for delineating a realism which eliminates any dichotomy between subjectivity and objectivity, knowledge and morality, ethics and ontology. Plato's suggestions can be discovered in combining the characterization of the Demiurge given in the Timaeus with the analogy between the supreme Good and the sun presented in the Republic, as well as explicating the analogy between the Good and the sun with reference to the image of the intelligible sphere of light. The resulting notion of good could be integrated into the phenomenal dimension of our knowledge and perception, helping to illustrate the reality of the way that knowledge and perception transcend any separation between interiority and exteriority, self and world, individuality and community. KEYWORDS Being, consciousness, self, good, autonomy, self-transcendence, creativity 1. Integrating the self with the world Any reflection concerning moral realism could be unsatisfactory if it concentrates solely on the notion either of objectivity or of transcendence. In the following discussion I will suggest the possibility of developing a moral realism which avoids such univocal connotation. This possibility will be indicated through focusing on one of the most essential notions in any moral discourse: on the notion of good. My thesis is based on two seminal passages from Plato’s works – Timaeus 29e-30a and Respublica 506d6-509c. -
Plato's Epistemology
Plato’s Epistemology: a Coherent Account in Meno , Phaedo and Theaetetus Chuanjie Sheng Submitted in accordance with the requirements for the degree of Doctor of Philosophy The University of Leeds Department of Classics August 2015 II The candidate confirms that the work submitted is his own and that appropriate credit has been given where reference has been made to the work of others. This copy has been supplied on the understanding that it is copyright material and that no quotation from the thesis may be published without proper acknowledgement. © 2015 The University of Leeds and Chuanjie Sheng The right of Chuanjie Sheng to be identified as Author of this work has been asserted by him in accordance with the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988. III Acknowledgements I appreciate all the persons that helped me to complete this thesis. I would like to express my greatest gratitude to my supervisors, Dr. Elizabeth E. Pender and Professor Malcolm F. Heath. As an enlightened teacher, Dr. Pender has offered me valuable comments and suggestions for my dissertation. Working with her is a stimulating intellectual experience. She patiently suggested on the structure of my thesis and corrected all the chapters line by line. As a wonderful friend, she brings happiness, pleasure and fruitful experience into my life in Leeds. Professor Heath has read all the chapters of my thesis and has given me feedbacks on each of the chapters. During the supervisions, he has given me valuable academic advice and comments, which has saved me from a large number of mistakes and errors in this dissertation.