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Museum. The show was well received and it was picked up by better known as Alice Bag. I grew up in East the Smithsonian as a traveling exhibition in 2012. I took my ML.A., the daughter of Mexican immigrants. In friends and family to see it when it got to the Musical Instrument the late 1970s, I was the lead singer of a band called The Museum in Phoenix, AZ. Now, a smaller version of the exhibit is Bags, one of the first wave of Hollywood bands alongside at Cal State L.A. I was happy to attend the opening reception and such groups as The Screamers, The Weirdos, the Zeros, and thrilled to experience the show at my old alma mater (I got my the Germs. We all performed at a basement in Hollywood Bachelor’s degree and my teaching credential at Cal State L.A.) called the Masque, a club started and run by a Scottish I planned to tweet links to help spread the word. But, I noticed immigrant named Brendan Mullen. The Masque scene was when I chanced upon the Smithsonian’s webpage for American Sabor that some of the information was wrong and misleading. very short-lived. It was open just about a year or so before the For example, the Hollywood punk scene predated the East Los Angeles County Fire Marshal shut it down permanently, L.A. punk scene; they were not concurrent as stated on the but it made a huge impact during that time, functioning as an Smithsonian website. They were separated by a period of roughly incubator for the nascent punk scene. It was a subterranean two years. The Brat was never an all-female group. The assertion basement where being different was not only welcomed but that Westside venues would not allow Eastside punks to play celebrated, a place where creativity, art, and music flourished in the early days is also inaccurate. There were many Mexican and found support outside of the mainstream. Americans from the Eastside and other places and cities who were The 1970s Hollywood punk scene was a space where I integral members of the Hollywood punk scene (myself included). could be with other, like-minded individuals who also felt We played at a variety of venues on the Westside. disenfranchised or alienated by the communities where we had I spoke to one of the original curators who told me that her grown up: our schools, our families, our neighborhoods. I wanted text had been changed by the Smithsonian. She asked me to write a to join a Chicano student organization when I was in high school, letter to them, but I didn’t feel a letter was enough. I felt compelled hoping to find solidarity with others who were motivated to make to do something more, so I approached Razorcake about letting me positive change. I ended up not joining after I perceived being research and write this piece in response to those inaccuracies. judged unfavorably based on my weird appearance, so I know Most disturbing to me was the implication that the early punk what it’s like to be the recipient of negative bias. scene was inhospitable to people of color, specifically Latinos. As I write this, I want to state that it is not my intention to The scene I experienced felt pretty egalitarian, but I wanted to deny or diminish those deeply personal experiences of perceived engage my peers in the conversation. so I decided to interview bias, spoken or unspoken. I simply want to add my voice and some members of that early Hollywood punk scene to get their the voices of others who were present in the early years of the impressions and tell another side of the story that’s been so often Los Angeles punk scene in hopes of providing a more balanced left out in order to perpetuate a dramatic storyline that never narrative and a counterpoint to what is in danger of becoming really existed—or perhaps existed for only a handful of people. “the official story.” What follows are those conversations. We were there and we A few years ago, three University of Washington professors can tell you first-hand how we were treated and how we treated curated a museum exhibition called American Sabor, which others. I asked for concrete, specific first-person accounts only, aimed to show the influence of Latinos in U.S. popular music. I and that’s what you’re getting. was lucky enough to get a personal tour from one of the curators during the first installation at Seattle’s Experience Music Project 30 1DA%KHHUSKK@LQJGO?AJA LNA@=PA@PDA"=OP)LQJGO?AJAĢ PDAUSANAJKP?KJ?QNNAJP

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1DA-=OP/AI=EJOLargely2JSNEPPAJ Michelle Habell-Pallan, Guest Curator, the salsa section and others. It remains a American Sabor: Latinos in U.S. mystery to us why the changes were made in the first place. Popular Music, reveals the behind-the- The altered text’s implication that scenes of the traveling exhibit. the Hollywood punk scene was hostile to Latinos/as is confounding because Thanks for this opportunity to give the exhibit highlights how Chicanas like context. First, as one of the three curators of Alice were part of and helped make the Experience Music Project’s American Sabor, we Hollywood punk scene. The exhibit also send a big thank you to all the musicians, fans, asks why punk as a genre is rarely included and people behind the scenes whose creative in overarching scholarly histories of Latina energy conjured a vital, musical spirit. They’ve music that document the music shared in been the inspiration for our project that seeks Latino/a communities. Viewers can also to remember and share their creations via listen to oral histories on the website that educational formats. Younger generations 1DA7ANKO  DQH=3EOP=    give a different perspective from the text don’t often have the opportunity to learn about and listen to sound modules that let the the influence of Chicana/o and Latina/o communities in the making music tell the story (americansabor.org/radio). Notably, Alice’s own of what is considered “American” pop music as it has occurred across book, Violence Girl: East LA Rage to Hollywood Stage: a Chicana Punk time and geography. We live in a moment in which the humanity and Memoir, provides a much needed account of the openness of the scene. sheer diversity our communities are represented and remembered in are We hoped the exhibit would start a conversation about the musicians astonishingly narrow by mainstream corporate media and academia. and scenes featured there and move others to create new exhibits, write Apparently, we have just arrived and have nothing to do with music new histories, and generally share their stories. It’s important to keep the scenes that occurred prior to this moment. dialogue going as this exhibit can serve as an entry into new discussions. The music tells us this is not true. That’s one of the reasons we desired It’s very exciting to read Alice’s never-before-published, amazing and to tell a different story based on evidence in the music itself. Across time much-needed interviews with the OG’s here in Razorcake. Her article and geography our music has often served as a response to those narrow invites further investigation that will likely inspire new books, testimonios, definitions. Alice is right to be disturbed by the website’s inaccuracies music, and fans. and so are we. We worked so hard to listen deeply and get the story right We also wanted to keep the story an open and evolving one. To that from the start because it is not often that we get the chance to share these end, the American Sabor website blog (http://americansabor.org/share- stories in a traveling exhibit format. We never had the chance to review your-story) invites music makers and lovers to upload their own stories or consent to the inaccurate changes in our text as it was rewritten by for posting and preservation. When the exhibit concludes, the Library editors at the Smithsonian Institution Traveling Exhibit Service for the of Congress will archive posts for posterity. This is a rare opportunity website version. to preserve our collective stories in this manner. This is one way to We were initially very excited about the website’s potential and keep American Sabor an open story, with new voices that discuss their appreciated the design of the website. We were shocked and appalled own experiences. We invite folks to post here so that their stories shape when we realized that our original text had been altered when the exhibit histories now and those written in the future. Can’t wait to read them was condensed into a more compact traveling exhibit that included the now and for our great, great grandchildren to read them! website as a companion. As soon as we saw the inaccuracies, we insisted they be changed and that the tour of the physical exhibit be halted until Michelle Habell-Pallan is the Associate Professor, Department of Gender, corrected. 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