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First Session - Thirty-Eighth Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable George Hickes Speaker Vol. LIV No. 5b – 1:30 p.m., Thursday, September 11, 2003 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY First Session–Thirty-Eighth Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation AGLUGUB, Cris The Maples N.D.P. ALLAN, Nancy St. Vital N.D.P. ALTEMEYER, Rob Wolseley N.D.P. ASHTON, Steve, Hon. Thompson N.D.P. BJORNSON, Peter Gimli N.D.P. BRICK, Marilyn St. Norbert N.D.P. CALDWELL, Drew, Hon. Brandon East N.D.P. CHOMIAK, Dave, Hon. Kildonan N.D.P. CUMMINGS, Glen Ste. Rose P.C. DERKACH, Leonard Russell P.C. DEWAR, Gregory Selkirk N.D.P. DOER, Gary, Hon. Concordia N.D.P. DRIEDGER, Myrna Charleswood P.C. DYCK, Peter Pembina P.C. EICHLER, Ralph Lakeside P.C. FAURSCHOU, David Portage la Prairie P.C. GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Lib. GOERTZEN, Kelvin Steinbach P.C. HAWRANIK, Gerald Lac du Bonnet P.C. HICKES, George, Hon. Point Douglas N.D.P. IRVIN-ROSS, Kerri Fort Garry N.D.P. JENNISSEN, Gerard Flin Flon N.D.P. JHA, Bidhu Radisson N.D.P. KORZENIOWSKI, Bonnie St. James N.D.P. LAMOUREUX, Kevin Inkster Lib. LATHLIN, Oscar, Hon. The Pas N.D.P. LEMIEUX, Ron, Hon. La Verendrye N.D.P. LOEWEN, John Fort Whyte P.C. MACKINTOSH, Gord, Hon. St. Johns N.D.P. MAGUIRE, Larry Arthur-Virden P.C. MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood N.D.P. MARTINDALE, Doug Burrows N.D.P. McGIFFORD, Diane, Hon. Lord Roberts N.D.P. MELNICK, Christine Riel N.D.P. MIHYCHUK, MaryAnn, Hon. Minto N.D.P. MITCHELSON, Bonnie River East P.C. MURRAY, Stuart Kirkfield Park P.C. NEVAKSHONOFF, Tom Interlake N.D.P. OSWALD, Theresa Seine River N.D.P. PENNER, Jack Emerson P.C. REID, Daryl Transcona N.D.P. REIMER, Jack Southdale P.C. ROBINSON, Eric, Hon. Rupertsland N.D.P. ROCAN, Denis Carman P.C. RONDEAU, Jim Assiniboia N.D.P. ROWAT, Leanne Minnedosa P.C. SALE, Tim, Hon. Fort Rouge N.D.P. SANTOS, Conrad Wellington N.D.P. SCHELLENBERG, Harry Rossmere N.D.P. SCHULER, Ron Springfield P.C. SELINGER, Greg, Hon. St. Boniface N.D.P. SMITH, Scott, Hon. Brandon West N.D.P. STEFANSON, Heather Tuxedo P.C. STRUTHERS, Stan Dauphin-Roblin N.D.P. TAILLIEU, Mavis Morris P.C. TWEED, Mervin Turtle Mountain P.C. WOWCHUK, Rosann, Hon. Swan River N.D.P. 389 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Thursday, September 11, 2003 The House met at 1:30 p.m. ask for leave to observe a moment's silence in honour of the sacrifices of those who lost their ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS lives on September 11 and to offer silent thoughts and prayers to the families who grieve TABLING OF REPORTS for them today. * (13:35) Hon. Rosann Wowchuk (Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs): Mr. Speaker, I Mr. Glen Cummings (Ste. Rose): Mr. Speaker, would like to table the report for the Department I want to respond on behalf of this side of the of Intergovernmental Affairs Supplementary House, on behalf of all Manitobans in respect to Information for the Department Expenditures the events of that horrible September 11. I do not 2003-2004. think ever in history have we seen that kind of horror and tragedy unfold before our eyes as we MINISTERIAL STATEMENTS did that day. While many people believe that the September 11 Terrorist Attacks strife around the world can only occur somewhere else, I think we all realized that day Hon. Rosann Wowchuk (Deputy Premier): how much we all have at stake in terms of peace Mr. Speaker, I have a statement for the House. in this world and caring for our fellow man. Today marks the second anniversary of the We join with our American neighbours, our September 11, 2001 tragic attack that took place friends and our allies to express our in New York, in Washington, D.C., and in condolences. At this time, we join as well to Pennsylvania. On this day two years ago, almost express our friendship and the shared loss that 3000 innocent people were taken from us as a there was around the world to people who result of a terrible act of aggression and suffered and died needlessly that day. It was cowardice. One of the innocents was a with great sacrifice and with great pride around Manitoban, Christine Egan. the world that everybody saw the police, the firefighters, the military and all of those who No one will forget the horrible images of responded that day, but it is a reminder that we planes flying into the World Trade Centre tower, all must stand together in the name of peace and the flaming, charring wing of the Pentagon or friendship. I want to join the Government today the shattered debris on the burning field in in respecting and remembering those who lost Pennsylvania. No one will forget these horrible their lives on September 11. images, but I am proud to note that we will always remember the heroes of that day, the Mr. Speaker: Please rise for a moment of emergency responders, the police, firefighters, silence. military and ordinary citizens who put their lives at risk to save others whom they had never met. I A moment of silence was observed. am proud that, in the immediate wake of the tragedy, Manitoba stood side by side with our ORAL QUESTION PERIOD neighbours by taking in stranded travellers, Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy giving blood and sending a book of condolences Cash Advance for Producers to the American people. Mr. Glen Cummings (Ste. Rose): Mr. Speaker, This week in Manitoba we mark Emergency one of the most disappointing actions of this Responders Week, partly to honour the sacrifices Minister of Agriculture and her Premier (Mr. of all emergency responders but also to outline Doer) is her sad attempt to tell Manitobans the that serious dangers are an every day reality for Agricultural Policy Framework may provide them on their job. At this time, I would like to some cash relief in the short term to the cattle 390 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA September 11, 2003 producers of this province. She knows, or she "deliberately misleading" as out of order. I ought to know, that it would not happen soon. would kindly ask the honourable Member for Ste. Rose to please withdraw that comment. The families out in rural Manitoba, the cattlemen in this province, have been brought to Mr. Cummings: Mr. Speaker, when you are their knees by lack of cash. Has she given up consumed with anger and disappointment about entirely on the cattle business in this province, what this Government is doing, you choose the Mr. Speaker, or is she prepared to step up to the wrong words and for that I apologize. plate and provide some cash advance? Mr. Speaker: That should be the end of the Hon. Rosann Wowchuk (Minister of matter and I would like to thank the honourable Agriculture and Food): Mr. Speaker, I want to member for that. Has the honourable member say that I recognize the cattle industry is a very concluded his question? important industry in this province. I recognize that, with the border closure, there is a cash flow Mr. Cummings: Mr. Speaker, she has not problem. That is why we put in place $100 provided a quick cash flow relief to the cattle million of loan authority that will allow producers of this province. She has to do producers to borrow $50,000 at low interest something or we will lose many. rates. In Manitoba they can borrow that money at 3.25 percent and young farmers can buy it at Ms. Wowchuk: Mr. Speaker, this Government 2.25 percent. In Alberta they are paying 5 has recognized the issue and this Government percent. has taken steps. Under the previous administration when We have put in place $100 million in they put a loan program to help producers, Mr. loaning. I can tell the member that, as of Speaker, it was at the prevailing rate and they yesterday, 140 people had their loans approved. were lending money to producers that needed They are coming in every day. They are filling cash badly at 6 percent, at the prevailing rate. out their applications and loans are being They have not recognized– approved, Mr. Speaker. As well, we put in $15 million in the Mr. Speaker: Order. slaughter program and the feed assistance Mr. Cummings: It is so obvious that this program. We have put in $2 million into minister does not understand the problem in improving the slaughter capacity in this rural Manitoba. They are being brought to their province. We have $43 million on the table to knees by lack of cash flow and she wants to play flow to producers through the APF. the blame game. Cattle are worth $300 a head more in Alberta. Deal with that problem if you Mr. Speaker, if you total that up, that is want to do something. about $160 million that we have on the table. It is time we got the federal government to Mr. Speaker, it is a sad day in this province recognize that they have a part in this and they when the Minister of Agriculture stands up and have to recognize this disaster. uses the Policy Framework as a way of misleading Manitobans, I would say deliberately Mr. Cummings: Mr. Speaker, this minister just misleading Manitobans, into thinking she is demonstrated why she must be publicly called doing something.