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Public Session PUBLIC SESSION MINUTES OF ORAL EVIDENCE taken before HIGH SPEED RAIL COMMITTEE On the HIGH SPEED RAIL (LONDON – WEST MIDLANDS) BILL Tuesday, 3 March 2015 (Morning) In Committee Room 5 PRESENT: Mr Robert Syms (Chair) Mr Henry Bellingham Sir Peter Bottomley Ian Mearns Mr Michael Thornton Yasmin Qureshi _____________ IN ATTENDANCE: Mr James Strachan QC, Counsel, Department for Transport Witnesses: Mr Ian Raybould, Headmaster, Yarlet School Nick Tarling, Governor, Yarlet School Mr Roger Broadbent and Mrs Gillian Broadbent Jeremy Lefroy MP Mr David Cook Mr Steven Smith Mr Duncan Mackenzie, Polesworth School _____________ IN PUBLIC SESSION 1 INDEX Subject Page Yarlet School Submissions from Mr Tarling 3 Submissions from Mr Raybould 4 Response by Mr Strachan 11 Roger and Gillian Broadbent Submissions from Mrs Broadbent 15 Submissions from Mr Broadbent 21 Response by Mr Strachan 27 Jeremy Lefroy MP Submissions from Mr Lefroy 30 Response by Mr Strachan 34 Further submissions from Mr Lefroy 36 David Cook, Steven Smith and Andrew Wilkinson Submissions from Mr Cook 38 Submissions from Mr Smith 45 Questions from the Committee 55 Mr Duncan Mackenzie Submissions from Mr Mackenzie 57 Response by Mr Strachan 66 Closing submissions from Mr Mackenzie 68 2 (At 09.30) 1. CHAIR: Order, order. Welcome, good morning everybody to the HS2 Select Committee. We start today with Yarlet School. Yarlet School 2. CHAIR: It is up on the map. Who is going to kick off for the school, you, Mr Tarling? 3. MR TARLING: Yes. 4. CHAIR: Please carry on. 5. MR TARLING: Mr Chairman, thank you first of all very much for allowing us to address you this morning. Can I take it that the members of the Committee have had a chance to look at the statement we provided rather than repeat ourselves. As we have said, I am a governor of the school. Mr Raybould here is the headmaster, so he is more interesting to listen to than me. Just by way of introduction I have mentioned that this is a school which has been on this site for 142 years. It is one of the oldest private schools in the country and is on the same site that it has always been on. So, clearly, this is a very serious matter that we are facing, quite obviously, which is why we are here. 6. We propose, Mr Chairman, with your agreement, to deal with the three points you mention in your statement that you put round recently: access, blight and compensation. If I may, I will start the ball rolling and then the headmaster will speak in more detail as to the access impact on the school. 7. We have right beside us, as you can see from the plan that is on the screen, the A34, which is a busy road. That is the only access onto the campus. I wonder if I could ask, please, for a photograph to be put up so that you can see the campus. That is exhibit 6, 9916. There you see the campus. It is an aerial photograph taken from the s ite. The A34 is in the trees running to the left of the picture, from north to south. It is a dual carriageway. That is an important point that will come up later. 8. SIR PETER BOTTOMLEY: Is that road on this picture? 9. MR TARLING: No, it is just to the left. It runs through those trees, north to 3 south, slightly at an angle to this photograph but the main entrance to the school, and the only entrance, I should say, is approximately in the middle of the left-hand side of this photograph. I can show a plan in a moment which will show you the exact site but we thought that you would like to get a feel of the site. The proposed railway line would be running laterally across. 10. SIR PETER BOTTOMLEY: If you put your finger on the screen, it will, by magic, turn up. 11. MR TARLING: We hope. The line of the railway is just below this line. We will show that in a moment. The line of the road under which the railway will need to pass goes up to the north/south. That is the totality of the campus that you are looking at in this photograph. Would it be helpful if we then pass to exhibit 9197, which will show the road. There you have the road and the campus again. My apologies for the rather small, handwritten descriptions of the various facilities which Mr Raybould will be touching on but an important point is that the entrance to the school, if that could be highlighted, is where I am pointing. That is the entrance and, as you can see, the A34 is the only access. 12. As regards the distance from the railway line I think at this point it would be helpful if we could have exhibit 9198. The difficulty with this, as you will have appreciated from other presentations, is that it is very small scale. Yarlet lies to the top le ft. You see that there is a cutting and one of the problems with this is that it actually faces south. But if we turn it upside to look at the picture we were looking at before, the school lies there. There is the site of the campus. You can see the enormous proposed cutting. The figures at the bottom of this plan do specify that the proposed railway would go underneath the A34 as designed to a depth of 16.4 metres. What is proposed here and obviously gives us great difficulty is a cutting which because of the depth would need to be very wide indeed. The edge of the cutting would measure a mere 75 metres from the edge of the ca mp us. If I may, Mr C hairman, if you do not have questions of me, I shall invite Mr Raybould to explain in more detail the concern we have. 13. CHAIR: Thank you. 14. MR RAYBOULD: I would just like to confirm initially that Yarlet School is a 4 boarding prep school with 160 pupils aged between two and 13. I will be making reference to clause 51 which deals with access to the right of entry to the site within 500 metres, and paragraph 7 of our petition, which deals with our concerns about the health, safety and welfare of pupils. 15. Could we have exhibit A9194, please? I mention that the clause gives the right of access 500 metres from the line. The area highlighted in green is the boundary of the school. The proposed line is more or less here. The 500 metre boundary is the line marked here. As you see, that really includes the entire Yarlet School campus, so I have huge concerns with regard to access. 16. I shall refer to some regulations now that I have a legal obligation to meet. The Education (Independent School S tandards) (England) Regulations 2010 Part 3 and Standards 6 and 7 of the National Minimum Standards for Boarding Schools 2013 require me to keep children safe. As an active independent schools inspector, and as the school’s designated lead for child protection I am particularly conscious of this responsibility. Should the project go ahead as proposed I have two key concerns about children’s safety. The first is that I do not see how I can keep children safe if unidentified people who have not been vetted by the school have the right to access our campus when children are present. The second is that it will be difficult to keep children safe if there is an increase in traffic on the campus. At the moment, vehicles are only permitted on the campus under exceptional circumstances and all parents and staff park in a car park which is off the campus. 17. I think it is worth mentioning at this stage the ethos of the school. The first thing you will see if you enter Yarlet School is a large sign just on the entrance to the A34 saying, ‘Free range children. Slo w’. Then that sign is repeated a few metres into the campus, again, ‘Free range children. Slo w’. Next to that sign is, ‘No unauthorised vehicles beyond this point’ and an arrow to the car park where everyone must park unless there are exceptional circumstances like deliveries, for example. 18. Free range children is a big thing for us. We are in a beautiful area of the Staffordshire countryside. There are no gates, fences, CCTV cameras or teachers with whis tles with children caged in a fenced-off area. Our children have a lot of freedom and can be found anywhere on the campus at any time really because a lot of our 5 educational activities take place outdoors and we make very good use of our grounds. So, I think my concerns are heightened because of that. I think in a different school concerns might not be as severe. 19. There is a further point regarding access, which I referred to in paragraph 8.4 of our petition. This concerns the disruption which families would experience on the A34. The A34, as Mr Tarling has already mentioned, provides the only access to the school and when it is congested it causes a major inconvenience to our parents. We feel that any school whose sole access were put into jeopardy would find it hard to survive and any disruption to that, any serious disruption to the A34, would be a threat therefore to our future.
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