OFFICIAL RECORD of PROCEEDINGS Thursday, 24 June 2010 the Council Continued to Meet at Nine O'clock
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LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 24 June 2010 9933 OFFICIAL RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS Thursday, 24 June 2010 The Council continued to meet at Nine o'clock MEMBERS PRESENT: THE PRESIDENT THE HONOURABLE JASPER TSANG YOK-SING, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE ALBERT HO CHUN-YAN IR DR THE HONOURABLE RAYMOND HO CHUNG-TAI, S.B.S., S.B.ST.J., J.P. THE HONOURABLE LEE CHEUK-YAN DR THE HONOURABLE DAVID LI KWOK-PO, G.B.M., G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE FRED LI WAH-MING, S.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE MARGARET NG THE HONOURABLE JAMES TO KUN-SUN THE HONOURABLE CHEUNG MAN-KWONG THE HONOURABLE CHAN KAM-LAM, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MRS SOPHIE LEUNG LAU YAU-FUN, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE LEUNG YIU-CHUNG DR THE HONOURABLE PHILIP WONG YU-HONG, G.B.S. THE HONOURABLE WONG YUNG-KAN, S.B.S., J.P. 9934 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 24 June 2010 THE HONOURABLE LAU KONG-WAH, J.P. THE HONOURABLE LAU WONG-FAT, G.B.M., G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MIRIAM LAU KIN-YEE, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE EMILY LAU WAI-HING, J.P. THE HONOURABLE ANDREW CHENG KAR-FOO THE HONOURABLE TIMOTHY FOK TSUN-TING, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE TAM YIU-CHUNG, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE ABRAHAM SHEK LAI-HIM, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE LI FUNG-YING, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE TOMMY CHEUNG YU-YAN, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE FREDERICK FUNG KIN-KEE, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE AUDREY EU YUET-MEE, S.C., J.P. THE HONOURABLE VINCENT FANG KANG, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WONG KWOK-HING, M.H. THE HONOURABLE LEE WING-TAT DR THE HONOURABLE JOSEPH LEE KOK-LONG, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE JEFFREY LAM KIN-FUNG, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE ANDREW LEUNG KWAN-YUEN, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHEUNG HOK-MING, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WONG TING-KWONG, B.B.S., J.P. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 24 June 2010 9935 THE HONOURABLE RONNY TONG KA-WAH, S.C. THE HONOURABLE CHIM PUI-CHUNG PROF THE HONOURABLE PATRICK LAU SAU-SHING, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE KAM NAI-WAI, M.H. THE HONOURABLE CYD HO SAU-LAN THE HONOURABLE STARRY LEE WAI-KING DR THE HONOURABLE LAM TAI-FAI, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN HAK-KAN THE HONOURABLE PAUL CHAN MO-PO, M.H., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN KIN-POR, J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE PRISCILLA LEUNG MEI-FUN DR THE HONOURABLE LEUNG KA-LAU THE HONOURABLE CHEUNG KWOK-CHE THE HONOURABLE WONG SING-CHI THE HONOURABLE WONG KWOK-KIN, B.B.S. THE HONOURABLE IP WAI-MING, M.H. THE HONOURABLE IP KWOK-HIM, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MRS REGINA IP LAU SUK-YEE, G.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE PAN PEY-CHYOU THE HONOURABLE PAUL TSE WAI-CHUN 9936 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 24 June 2010 DR THE HONOURABLE SAMSON TAM WAI-HO, J.P. THE HONOURABLE ALAN LEONG KAH-KIT, S.C. THE HONOURABLE LEUNG KWOK-HUNG THE HONOURABLE TANYA CHAN THE HONOURABLE ALBERT CHAN WAI-YIP THE HONOURABLE WONG YUK-MAN PUBLIC OFFICERS ATTENDING: THE HONOURABLE HENRY TANG YING-YEN, G.B.M., G.B.S., J.P. THE CHIEF SECRETARY FOR ADMINISTRATION THE HONOURABLE JOHN TSANG CHUN-WAH, J.P. THE FINANCIAL SECRETARY THE HONOURABLE WONG YAN-LUNG, S.C., J.P. THE SECRETARY FOR JUSTICE THE HONOURABLE MICHAEL SUEN MING-YEUNG, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR EDUCATION THE HONOURABLE STEPHEN LAM SUI-LUNG, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR CONSTITUTIONAL AND MAINLAND AFFAIRS THE HONOURABLE AMBROSE LEE SIU-KWONG, G.B.S., I.D.S.M., J.P. SECRETARY FOR SECURITY DR THE HONOURABLE YORK CHOW YAT-NGOK, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR FOOD AND HEALTH THE HONOURABLE DENISE YUE CHUNG-YEE, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR THE CIVIL SERVICE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 24 June 2010 9937 THE HONOURABLE TSANG TAK-SING, J.P. SECRETARY FOR HOME AFFAIRS THE HONOURABLE MATTHEW CHEUNG KIN-CHUNG, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR LABOUR AND WELFARE MS JULIA LEUNG FUNG-YEE, J.P. SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES AND THE TREASURY THE HONOURABLE MRS CARRIE LAM CHENG YUET-NGOR, J.P. SECRETARY FOR DEVELOPMENT DR KITTY POON KIT, J.P. SECRETARY FOR THE ENVIRONMENT THE HONOURABLE EVA CHENG, J.P. SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT AND HOUSING THE HONOURABLE MRS RITA LAU NG WAI-LAN, J.P. SECRETARY FOR COMMERCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROF LAU SIU-KAI, J.P. HEAD, CENTRAL POLICY UNIT MISS ADELINE WONG CHING-MAN, J.P. UNDER SECRETARY FOR CONSTITUTIONAL AND MAINLAND AFFAIRS CLERKS IN ATTENDANCE: MS PAULINE NG MAN-WAH, SECRETARY GENERAL MRS CONSTANCE LI TSOI YEUK-LIN, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL MRS VIVIAN KAM NG LAI-MAN, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL MRS JUSTINA LAM CHENG BO-LING, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL 9938 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 24 June 2010 PRESIDENT (in Cantonese): Good morning. We now continue with the debate on the Motion concerning the Amendment to the Method for the Selection of the Chief Executive. MOTIONS Continuation of debate on motion which was moved on 23 June 2010 MOTION CONCERNING THE AMENDMENT TO THE METHOD FOR THE SELECTION OF THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE MR PAUL CHAN (in Cantonese): President, Honourable colleagues, Good morning. President, a fortnight ago in this Chamber, I, in great anxieties, shared with Honourable colleagues and friends in the accountancy sector my views on the Package of Proposals for the Methods for Selecting the Chief Executive and for Forming the Legislative Council in 2012 (the original package). President, the political situation on that day could be described as not seeing light in the future and walking a tortuous, never-ending path. Today, we are here in this Chamber to formally debate and vote on the two motions proposed by the Government of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (SAR). I am, however, in a different mood. Now, I sincerely look forward to passing, either today or tomorrow, the revised version of the constitutional reform package (the revised package) announced by the Government on Monday in this Chamber, so that the constitutional development of Hong Kong can move forward while the community of Hong Kong can be prevented from moving in the direction of splitting up and from facing serious crisis of governance and social turbulence, which would otherwise jeopardize the investment environment of Hong Kong and preclude the public from living and working in peace and contentment. President, I wish to sincerely thank and salute the Democratic Party for bringing about a breakthrough for the constitutional reform package. I wish to salute them because they have, in fighting for the early implementation of dual universal suffrage, demonstrated untiring perseverance by still making all-out efforts despite knowing that they were attempting the impossible. I salute them for their wisdom in judging what is feasible and what is possible on the tortuous road of democracy, and for their courage in making decisions which they should made but not welcomed by some of its supporters and even allies. I believe LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 24 June 2010 9939 many members of the public will join me in expressing heartfelt appreciation and gratitude to them. I personally think that the revised package proposed today is an improvement to the benefit of Hong Kong. In view of the criticisms in opposition of the package both inside and outside this Council, I must admit that this is a political judgment. Nobody can rightly tell today whether this will ultimately be right or wrong. I made a judgment by my conscience, having regard to the information available, my understanding of this issue, the history of Hong Kong and the Mainland, as well as my personal experience and beliefs. The success of the reform or otherwise will depend on the internal conditions in Hong Kong as well as many other factors, including the political and economic situation in the Mainland. In case anything is proven wrong in future, I believe we will still be able to promptly work in concert to make remedies. Only in this way can our society have the momentum to move forward and only in this way can there be vitality in the community of Hong Kong. President, turning back to this motion, the development of the constitutional reform has changed dramatically over the past week. When considering how I should vote, I had made a comprehensive review in the light of the developments. Now I wish to take the opportunity of this debate on the motion concerning the amendment to the method for the selection of the Chief Executive to explain how I will handle my vote on this constitutional reform package for the purpose of keeping clear public records. President, the Government published a consultation document in November last year. In order to enable friends in the accountancy sector to understand the views of the Government and leaders of various parties and groupings on this topic, I organized a cross-party consultative forum on political development on 23 January. Political leaders who attended the forum included several Members who are now in this Chamber, namely, Mr TAM Yiu-chung, Ms Emily LAU, Mr Alan LEONG and Mrs Regina IP, and Mr Stephen LAM, Secretary for Constitutional and Mainland Affairs, also attended the forum. Here, I wish to express my gratitude to them once again. I hoped that the forum could give friends in the sector an opportunity to understand the analyses and views of various parties and groupings on this extremely controversial issue which has struck a chord in so many Hong Kong people, and I had also taken the opportunity to collect views from members of the sector.