Happy B-Day America! ...men that had understanding of the times, to know what [they] ought to do... I Chr.12:32

Volume 6, Issue 3 Publication of the Global Independent Baptist Fellowship. July 2006

"Pray that the Light of the Gospel, and the rights of conscience, may be continued to the people of United America; and that His Holy Word may be improved by them, so that the name of God may be exalted, and their own liberty and happiness secured. (Pray) that He would be graciously pleased to bless our Federal Government; that by a wise administration, it may be a sure guide and safe protection in national concerns for the people who have established, and who support it. (Pray) that He would continue to us the invaluable blessings of civil liberty, guarding us against intestine commotions; and enabling the United States, in the exercise of such Governmental powers as are devolved upon them, so that the honor and dignity of our Nation, upon the sea and the land, may be supported, and (that) peace with the other powers of the world, upon safe and honorable terms, may be maintained." --Samuel Adams

THE HERITAGE OF FAITH By Kevin Folger, GIBF Moderator (Mark 12:17) “And Jesus Both must have public utilities. We “Yanks” are ready to answering said unto them, Render This interdependent humanity constitutes the state in celebrate Independence Day, a to Caesar the things that are which we all have to be born, in which we all have to live day when we as a nation celebrate Caesar's, and to God the things and work and love and die. No one ever was born in an th our 230 birthday! that are God's. And they marvelled at him.” abstract state. In an abstract state there is neither a cradle, Without a doubt, Americans are some of the most Clear exposition and sound reasoning by intelligent a wedding altar, nor a graveyard. blessed people on this planet. God has allowed our nation men of matured conviction, sociability, and good will As for the law, its total effectiveness is contingent to see unprecedented blessings in the realm of economics, are the ultimate guarantee of a mutually satisfactory and on the public character and sentiment behind it. The personal liberty, and religious freedom. During my years practicable separation of church and state. world never had as many laws as it has today, and the in the ministry, I have had the privilege of traveling quite This is true because there never has been and never world never had as much as it has today. And if the a bit; and like anyone who has traveled beyond the shores can be any absolute separation. There never has been effectiveness of the law is determined by public character of the United States, I can stand and say there is no country and never can be any “wall” of separation. The concrete and sentiment, there is but one permanently effective way in the world like this country! But as we make ready to wall between East and West Berlin is not an absolute to mold that character and sentiment behind the law: clear celebrate our country’s liberties this coming Independence wall; mutual interests and antagonisms are constantly exposition and reason. The United States was created by Day, there are a couple of things we should consider. disregarding it. Humanity, whether Christian, non- the Federal Constitution. Our country got its name from First, we need to realize the important role our Christian, or anti-Christian, has always been together. It that Constitution. The Constitution created the Congress, Baptist forefathers played in giving us our religious always will be. And being together, humanity is mutually the office of President, and the Supreme Court. It is the liberty. An accurate study of American history will dependent. In the most basic needs, the Christian is oldest written constitution in existence. It has been the reveal that Baptists were influential in securing religious dependent on the non-Christian, and the non-Christian is Nation’s guide for 173 years. But what created the freedom as part of this nation’s great legacy. Baptists dependent on the Christian. Both must have the protection Constitution? have always believed in soul liberty. Soul liberty is that and security of the law. Both must have pure water. ...continued on page 4 principle from the Word of God that says each person is given the freedom of choice to believe or disbelieve what is taught in God’s Word. No person can be forced to believe; God allows each of us to have the freedom Oklahoma Singin’ and Preachin’ Was “Moving” of choice. True Baptists have never forced a person to adhere to their faith or to die because they refused. But The GIBF May Fellowship Meeting in Oklahoma City many of our Baptist brethren through the centuries have suffered a martyr’s death because of their faith. It is a By Scott Naill sad but true fact that during the formation period in this Psalm 9:2 says, “I will be glad country, Baptists were jailed and beaten because of their and rejoice in thee: I will sing faith. One of our great Baptist forefathers, Obadiah praise to thy name, O thou most Holmes, was beaten because he refused to get a license High.” to preach from Colonial Puritans in Massachusetts Bay. I have often said that when As independent Baptists, we need to be careful that the Lord Jesus Christ returns, we don’t give glory to Protestant Reformers; historically, He may very well choose the they are as guilty as Roman Catholics in persecuting our opening song service during Baptist brethren due to stands on doctrine and biblical Graduation Week at Heartland convictions. One stand more than any other that has Baptist Bible College as His introduction! Wow! – I was me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good caused more Baptists to die is our stand on the doctrine ready for the invitation after the first song. tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the of Believer’s Baptism. That conviction was a source of As at times before, the joint choirs of Southwest brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and controversy and persecution right here in America before Baptist Church and Heartland Baptist Bible College did a the opening of the prison to them that are bound.” any national laws that now govern this land were established. FANTASTIC job singing praises to His name! GLORY! As we have come to expect, the preaching during For example, two Baptist preachers, Roger Williams There’s just something special about a full choir and an Fellowship Week was Spirit-filled. The theme for the and John Clarke, were the ones who founded the Rhode auditorium full of preachers singing their hearts out that week was “Stand Fast in the Faith – I Corinthians 16:13,” Island Colony. Because of religious persecution of their stirs the soul. Thank you, Bro. Floyd Schexnayder, for and every preacher “rang the bell.” There was evidence Baptist doctrine, these men were banned from other once again leading us as we worshipped our Saviour of God’s Spirit upon each preacher as they brought forth settled areas. When they claimed the territory now known through song, and for helping us as we prepared our souls what the Lord had laid on their heart. as Rhode Island, Baptist principles were established to for the preaching! I want to touch on a few of the messages. govern the territory. Isaiah 61:1 – “The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon ...continued on page 2 ...continued on page 3

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transform God's House into that which is but another described by noting that, on a national level, those closest TIMES EDITORIAL theatre of entertainment. Accomplish your "purpose" by to speaking out are James Dobson, Franklin Graham, using their methodologies and their lifestyles. Jerry Falwell, or Pat Robertson. But substantive doctrinal COMING TO THE God help us! Is it any wonder our country is in the issues notwithstanding, even these fellows are too PR- condition it's in? Do we not know that "judgment begins conscious. AID OF YOUR at the House of God," and that “sin is a reproach to any The time for diplomatic prayer breakfasts, congenial COUNTRY people?” Listen again: “Judgment begins at the House news conferences, and social pleasantries is long gone. It of God!!” is time for prophets to “lift up (their) voice like a trumpet By David H. Lydick To find the source of current problems in a and show (the) people their sin.” We need some Elijahs, community or a country, simply look at the conduct some Jeremiahs and Micaiahs. We need men like John The phrase "Now is the time in or the responses to public moral conditions in the the Baptist, who will “take it to” kings and magistrates, for all good men to come to the institutions that God intended to be salt and light: look confronting them boldly and plainly. The Bill Clintons, aid of their country" is not just some coordination drill in churches. Be prepared however, if you are so bold as Barney Franks and Ted Kennedys in this country should in a high school typing class. It is a truth desperately to call churches to account. You will hear, “How dare be clearly exposed as the ones "that troubleth Israel." needing to be practiced in 21st century America. And the you! How dare you criticize my ministry, or my church?” Elijah the Tishbite didn't excuse or hobnob with wicked form of aid called for is not the kind commonly produced Well, dare to because judgment begins at the House of rulers, he exposed and confronted them. Our nation, the by Washington bureaucrats. We need the aid that is truly God! American religious, social, and political ills are due future of our children’s children, and even the future of foreign these days – aid from Heaven! Though rich in to the negligence, apathy, disorder, and ungodliness being the gospel ministry itself are at stake, Friends! history and materially prosperous, America is spiritually found where those things should not be found – in our When the enemy shall come in like a flood, God destitute. churches. If ever there was a need for churches to be what promised to “lift up a standard against him.” But where The 18th century American spiritual landscape God has always designed them to be – holy, separate, and are the standard-bearers today? To procure "the preaching preceding the Great Awakening was destitute, too. At that clearly evangelistic – it is now! that I bid thee," will God have to do what He did with time, God’s designed form of aid (a design He insists on In more recent times-past, when there was still some Jonah – place those He has chosen to stand up and speak still today) was strong Bible preaching. That preaching, regard and respect for what spiritual leaders in America up in some collective “whale-of-a-mess?” Remember: delivered inside and outside the church house, brought said or thought, where were the “national voices” for “Judgment begins at the house of God.” Surely we must genuine national revival! A deliberate effort to take God? In particular, when this country was reeling from admit that to some degree the mess already exists; but it preaching outside, to the public, was a key to the “Great” race riots and war protests amid the 1960s, when open is fast worsening. part of the Awakening. rebellion and sedition were new to the American public The obvious is screaming at us! It is high time for all But most folk would say that America’s conditions arena, where were the preachers with national influence good men to come to the aid of their country! today are more akin to those in Noah’s or Jonah’s who would stand in the gap, giving direction at such a Bible-believers need, first, to reform and refit “parish,” not Jonathan Edwards’ or George Whitefield’s. crucial time? By the way, they were found moving in ourselves and our churches in compliance with God’s Noteworthy is that Noah and Jonah went public, too; and circles of the high and mighty; but sadly they were also Word; we ourselves need to repent and return. Then, though Noah’s message went unheeded, we know that found silent when they should have been boldly reproving we need to take every opportunity, in public, to expose Jonah made a difference in the city-state of Assyria! and correcting. They were cowering like Aaron, instead ungodliness for what it is – ungodly! Rebuke compromise, When the wickedness of Nineveh came before God, of standing like Moses. Today’s acceptance-driven pragmatism and apostasy; speak up at the city councils; He didn’t send in a survey team to determine what the philosophies have come to disdain usage of the term, write letters to congressmen and editors; stand and address Ninevites thought about confrontational evangelism. but “compromise” is what it was a generation ago, and political party meetings and civic organizations; challenge Jonah was directed by God to go to Nineveh and preach compromise is what it is still today; the degree is just a reprobate justices and magistrates. America needs some repentance to a "wicked" citizenry. It is high time for few steps closer to apostasy, that’s all. prophets! We must herald on every occasion what the American Christians, and especially preachers, in the So, what about today? Where are the men of key is to our success as a nation – and it’s not democracy, fashion of Jonah, Isaiah, Jeremiah, and others to "cry God when our nation needs to hear, “Thus saith the free enterprise, or a strong defense (though I’m for those aloud, spare not." (Just make sure your spirit is not Lord?” Nationally known “ministers” who should things) – it’s Bible righteousness! We must proclaim the fashioned after Jonah, only your message.) make a difference are much like those a generation same truth that Alexis de Tocqueville discovered early in The trends in ministry circles today are just the ago. Contemporary voices are writing best sellers that the nineteenth century when he came to this country in opposite of what is needed and what is exemplified in merely patronize a secular religion void of any scriptural search of America’s greatness. We must clearly define scripture. “Cutting-edge” philosophy would have us be substance. Prominent evangelicals sit as counselors to the paths of righteousness and say, "This is the way, walk stealth in our approach to reaching people -- don't be and apologists for corrupt lawmakers and politicos. If ye in it." confrontational; don't be offensive; don't be negative; it weren’t so pathetic and subversive, it would make for don't be "up-front" with Bible righteousness. Fool 'em ñ ó good late-night TV joke lines (and it does!). But it’s not into coming to church; trick 'em by implanting religious funny; not at all. Just how great the void is might best be words in their "music"; let Hollywood and Tin Pan Alley

THE HERITAGE OF FAITH the problem is not legislation – it’s the heart of man. continued from page 1.... When the heart is wicked, the morality of humanity will be wicked as well. The answer is not political action No, they didn’t establish a church-run state, but they committees, nor is it electing the right man as President. did use principles from the Word of God to set up laws The answer doesn’t lie in Congress or on a local or governing that area. American freedom of religion was community level. The answer is for Baptist preachers to David H. Lydick, Editor first established there. They never persecuted or banned preach the Word of God, and for churches to be governed Published quarterly by the others from their territory because of their religious faith. by the Word of God. The answer is for our churches – the people and the preachers – to exemplify the principles Global Independent Baptist Fellowship As we celebrate Independence Day, Baptists can rejoice in our forefathers’ influence in the lives and values and precepts of God’s Word in their daily lives. The answer is for Christians to go soul-winning again, Please address all correspondence to: of American Founding Fathers. We can be thankful that our first President, George Washington, received believer’s and to have the power of the Holy Spirit on their lives Baptist Times baptism at the hands of Baptist preacher John Gano. We as they reach out to their communities and cities. The 2407 Chandler Road East can be thankful that Thomas Jefferson, though not a answer is not to forsake the cities and urban areas where Bellevue, Nebraska 68005 Baptist, was influenced by the Virginia Baptists, in whose blight and sin have made great inroads. The answer is churches he witnessed principles perceived as good and fasting and praying for God’s clear direction to confront e-mail: [email protected] right. It was Jefferson’s wording in a Virginia state law that sin – not with legislation, but with the Word of God. served as a pattern for the Bill of Rights’ First Amendment It was the French philosopher, Alexis de Tocqueville, The Baptist Times is dedicated to facili- to the Constitution. That amendment states, in part, who came to America in the early 1800s to find out why our tate the GIBF by providing information, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment nation was so blessed. He did not find what many people edification and exhortation for independent of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” thought, but he did find the secret to America’s greatness Baptist pastors, missionaries and full time James Madison, the “Father of the Constitution,” was also when he went into the churches of the country finding them workers. We encourage pertinent infor- influenced by the Virginia Baptists to argue forcefully aflame with righteousness. He then declared, “America is mation, photos, articles, etc. worthy of for the addition and ratification of that Amendment. great because America is good; if America ever ceases publication. Information contained within The second thing we need to consider on this to be good, America will cease to be great.” The kind should not necessarily be interpreted as Independence Day is that what we have inherited can of goodness spoken of is not legislated; it is a goodness that comes from the heart made righteous by the grace endorsement by the fellowship. easily be lost. All of us can see the greatness of our nation slipping; that which at one time was decent and and goodness of God. The blood of Christ is applied by The Times is provided free of charge for right in the sight of the average American is now looked faith into a life, and that heart is changed and made new. pastors and full time workers / $15 upon with disdain, and often ridiculed. Good is called Only then can true goodness be shown in anyone’s life. annually for individual subscriptions. evil and evil is called good. To stand in this country and We need to contemplate these two things at this time decry sin will put us at odds with mainstream America. of national celebration. It is obvious that God has used Global Independent Baptist Missions Many in the “religious community” want to form our Baptist faith to influence our nation for greatness in 602 Manco Road coalitions which will lobby politicians who, in turn, will the past. He could do it again if we will think clearly and Lewisville, TX 75067 pass laws making America a moral nation once again. yield our lives completely to His control for the present. Email: [email protected] May we not be so foolish to believe this is how it should Have a great Fourth of July! be. I do believe America should have a moral base, but ñ ó

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THE GIBF MAY FELLOWSHIP MEETING NAIL SALON OR ESPN? a part of salvation, and that true salvation cannot be lost. continued from page 1.... I began to see that, while we were all Baptists, God had Separated Unto the Lord separated me for a purpose. Bro. Jeff Ables of Springfield, Missouri, started us Those friends were the only other Baptists in my high school of 400 students. Every other student went to off Monday night preaching about that The winning essay “old snake,” the devil, and his unending a Protestant or Catholic church. Every one there claimed attempts to make every preacher of the in the 2006 College to be a Christian, yet I was the only one who really knew Gospel compromise in the ministry of Literary Award the whole truth from God’s Word. I began to see what God’s House. Baptist Separatism was all about. My fellow students On Tuesday By Jennifer Fleet were sincere about being Christians, but they were morning, Bro. Dan blinded by Satan’s lies and deceit that has penetrated even Tidd, Indianapolis, Men, have you ever Christianity. They were being fed a partial truth at their Indiana, Bro. Troy Dorrell, Tulsa, walked into a nail salon churches, but a partial truth is not the truth. Oklahoma, and Bro. Rich Farinella, full of women? It seems In First Corinthians 5, God says, “…a little leaven Woodinville, Washington, kept the fire like they are talking in a leaveneth the whole lump… Purge out therefore the old completely different language because they are all talking leaven, that ye may be a new lump…Therefore let us keep stoked. Tuesday night, at the same time. The smells are definitely foreign to the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of Bro. Dave McCracken, you. It is immediately evident to you that you need to malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, be separated from this world of pampered women. You of sincerity and truth” (vs. 6-8). As long as Christians preached one of the gladly separate yourself from the needless headache that continue to allow Satan in the church, he will continue to greatest messages I’ve ever would come from staying there any longer. mix false doctrine with the truth and twist God’s Word to Women, have you ever been in a living room full of deceive people. And as long as churches continue to be heard on our Baptist heritage. It men watching ESPN? It is quite comical to see them get defiled by Satan, there will be those (Baptists) who will was a landmark message. Sad all excited over men dressed the same on a screen, running separate themselves unto the truth. to say, many Baptist church back and forth with a little ball. And then, suddenly, they Baptists do not separate themselves because they are members do not know Baptist all get angry at the little man in black and white stripes discontented with change in the church. Change can be church history. Fellow pastors, with a whistle. They calm down again and start the cycle good as long as it stays by God’s Word. The emphasis is Bro. McCracken’s message over. They call this male bonding time. Of course, as a not separation from, but separation to the Lord and His would be a great tape to purchase woman, you gladly separate yourself from this boredom truth. It is the Holy Spirit that convicts us when Satan and give to all of your church (not to mention the smell of corn chips and aftershave) infiltrates the church. He compels our spirits to once members. I did! because it is completely foreign to you. again separate ourselves to the Lord Jesus. On Wednesday morning, To the woman in the nail salon, it is very important Throughout history, Baptists have separated Bro. Marshall Stevens, American to her how her nails are done. Any nicks or mess-ups themselves from false doctrine that has made its way Canyon, California, and Bro. Sam could ruin the whole experience. Likewise, for the man into the church. There are now only a faithful few who Davison, President of Heartland, watching ESPN, one little fumble could affect the whole will take a stand for the absolute truth of God. Preachers preached and prepared our hearts game which could affect the whole season. So, each around the world are letting down on biblical doctrine to for the college’s May Offering. move and point made in the game is important to the draw the attention of the crowd and their money. But Bro. Davison brought a message man. The man and woman gladly separate themselves independent, fundamental Baptists need to stand for what from II Corinthians 8, challenging from each other’s world because they do not believe the we know in our hearts to be the truth. Just like the man us all to “…prove the sincerity of your love.” The offering same things. He does not believe a chipped fingernail is in the nail salon or the woman in the living room with goal of $650,000.00 was met and exceeded, and everyone a crisis, and she does not believe it matters which team ESPN, this partial truth and false doctrine must be foreign left the service rejoicing in God’s goodness and supply! wins. to us. We must be compelled to separate ourselves unto Bro. John Bishop of Heber Springs, Arkansas Independent fundamental Baptist, have you ever been God and away from liberalism in the church. God will preached Wednesday night. in a sanctuary full of liberal Christians that are playing only bless those that continue to separate themselves What can I say? Just get the rock music while “worshipping the Lord?” Or have you from wrong and unto Him. Let us continue to be as Paul: tape! been to a “healing service” where they speak in tongues “…separated unto the gospel of God” (Romans 1:1). Thursday, all day, was a tribute with their eyes rolled back in their heads, “healing” ñ ó to the ministry and influence of people? You know that is not genuine worship of the Bro. Bob Stewart of El Paso, Lord Jesus. This is all extremely foreign to you, and your Texas. The men who preached spirit compels you to immediately separate yourself from both morning and evening this blasphemy. are products of the ministry of Bro. Stewart and the Baptist Separatism involves more than separation Hillcrest Bible Baptist Church of El Paso that he pastored from the world (although that is vital to our faith). Jesus LET TYRANTS SHAKE for so many years. After a presentation by the college said in His Word, “If ye were of the world, the world (CHESTER) recognizing Bro. Stewart’s faithfulness and achievement, would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, by William Billings, about 1777 he himself preached but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world the first message of hateth you” (John 15:19). Every other religion involves Let tyrants shake their iron rod, the morning. He was this practice of separation from the world. But Baptist followed by Bro. Claud Separatism involves separation from doctrinally incorrect And slav'ry clank her galling chains. Slate, Rogers, Arkansas, Baptists and Christian churches. We fear them not; we trust in God; and then the current In researching Baptist Separatism, I found very little New England's God forever reigns. pastor of Hillcrest, Bro. information on Baptists that have descended from Christ’s Bill Mitchell. Every original Church. I believe this is because independent, Howe and Burgoyne and Clinton, too, message built on the theme fundamental Baptists never separated (moved away) from and followed the pattern of anything. They are still standing on the doctrines that With Prescott and Cornwallis joined, the week by challenging and Christ started the church with. It is the other “Christian” Together plot our overthrow, stirring the heart. churches that have allowed sin to separate them from In one infernal league combined. Finally, Bro. Kevin O’Brien, Christ’s church. Lubbock, Texas, another I have attended an independent, fundamental Baptist product of Bro. Bob Stewart, church my whole life. However, the Lord gave me When God inspired us for the fight, preached the Heartland the opportunity to learn Baptist Separatism first hand Their ranks were broke; their lines were Commencement Service, charging the 2006 Graduating through my schooling. I attended a Christian school forced. Class as they continue from kindergarten through graduation that was started by Their ships were shattered in our sight, on in their service for the an Assembly of God church. However, the school itself Or swiftly driven from our shore. Lord. was non-denominational. Assembly of God doctrine was No doubt, when you not emphasized at the school, only basic Christianity. step foot on Heartland There were over 150 different Christian denominations The foe comes on with haughty stride; Baptist Bible College, two represented at the school when I reached high school. Our troops advance with martial noise. things will happen. First, When I was little, I didn’t notice a difference from Their veterans flee before our youth, you will hear and rejoice my friends except that I had stricter parents. But as I And generals yield to beardless boys. in some godly, Christ- reached high school, my separation became more and honoring music. Secondly, you will hear Spirit-filled, more apparent. Here I was with friends who claimed to red hot preaching. Truly, Jesus Christ was exalted and be Christians. Some of them even had sincere devotion What grateful off'ring shall we bring; received glory during Graduation Week at Heartland! to a relationship with Christ. But they were so far from What shall we render to the Lord? During the Opening Service on Monday night, I the truth with the doctrine they believed. I remember Loud hallelujahs let us sing, leaned over and asked my school administrator what he trying to explain to my “Baptist” friends why the King And praise his name on ev'ry chord! thought about his first visit to Heartland. His response: James Bible is the only inspired Word of God and the “I’m moving to Oklahoma!” Enough said! only scriptural authority. We also discussed views on ñ ó salvation. They could not understand that baptism is not  G L O B A L BAPTIST TIMES

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE of church and state not only has to continue its endless discharge his responsibilities to the total citizenship continued from page 1.... battle with the inherent opposition of the Roman Catholic if he is, first of all, primarily responsible to one Church, it has another and even worse enemy: the segment of the citizenship? How can he discharge Clear exposition and reasoning by intelligent men atheistic secular state. The yoke of Moscow is not much his responsibilities to all if he first must promote the of matured convictions, sociability, and good will. of a substitute for the yoke of the Vatican. The spirit and interests of some? The very nature of the state obligates Exposition and reason, humanly speaking, produced letter of the Constitution of the United States always has it to promote the legitimate interests of all, not of some. the Constitution which created the United States. The been, and still is, opposed to both yokes. And one of the The long, heavy, plodding history of the Roman extraordinary men who framed that instrument varied chief reasons why we are today making a choice between Catholic Church is a history of the degrading and markedly in background, temperament, and economic and these two yokes is because there are so few preachers and enslavement of states. In Roman Catholic states the interest political convictions. But they had one thing in common: politicians with the knowledge, dedication, energy, and of the church, not that of the total population, come first. a deep belief in exposition and reason. capacities to expound the respective natures and ends of When the civil magistrate has finished with the business Today the intellectual fog and inertia of law-abiding the church and state, and by sound reason and powerful of the church, there is little time left to give serious people on the one hand, and the flaming passion and argument mold public opinion to recognize, appreciate, consideration to the business of anyone else. The uniform violence of the lawless on the other are, humanly, due and maintain their constitutional separation. Humanly result is that in nearly all Roman Catholic states you don’t largely to the almost complete lack of clear exposition of speaking, the preservation of this Union is due more to the find what is the backbone of a stable and prosperous basic issues and reasonable and practical solutions adduced lucid exposition, sound reasoning, and powerful argument state: a healthy, industrious, productive middle class. for their problems. The current lack of this fundamental of Abraham Lincoln than to any other single factor. In The Roman Catholic state degrades and pauperizes requirement of an ordered and prosperous society has case anyone wishes to know, the outcome of the Civil War its people. In the Roman Catholic state the church is the been dramatized by the Supreme Court in its two historic was determined on the Illinois prairies when Abraham master. All public functions must have the blessings of and revolutionary decisions on a public recognition in Lincoln was brooding over essences and their relations. the church. The mind must be taught and molded by the tax-supported institutions, of God and the Bible. The And now let us do some reasoning ourselves about church. The church is the guardian. The church is the whole question hinged on the First Amendment to the the separation of church and state. The fundamental pope, and the pope’s teachings and bull are infallible. And Constitution – at least that is what the abstractionists tell us. thing is that their respective natures, philosophies, the pope decrees on political as well as religious matters. That amendment reads as follows: and missions inherently demand their constitutional Therefore, obviously, the civil magistrate is inferior “Congress shall make no law respecting an separation. The union of church and state runs counter in both wisdom and authority. It is as simple as that. establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise to their natures. Separately, each complements and helps But in the Protestant church state it is the other way thereof: or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the the other; together, each is dead weight on the other. around. The relationship between Protestant church press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, Consider the church. and state is that of ruler and mistress. The church is the and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” The church essentially is an organism, not an kept woman of the state. That may not be completely The only question that constitutional morality organization. It is a new race created by Jesus Christ. true at the beginning, but it will be completely true permitted the Court to consider was this: What did the “For he is our peace, who hath made both (Jew and before the union has matured. Look at the Church Congress that recommended that amendment, and the Gentile) one, and hath broken down the middle wall of of England today, the best example in history of the thirteen states that ratified it, mean by “no law respecting an partition between us; Having abolished in his flesh the union of church and state. The ecclesiastical leaders establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise enmity, even the law of commandments contained in talk like infidels with an inferiority complex. With rare thereof?” Did the Congress and those states mean that no ordinances; for to make in himself of twain (Jew and exceptions, a Church of England service reminds you state church should ever be established in this country, or Gentile) one new man, so making peace” (Eph 2:14-15). more of coffins and tombs than of cradles and children. did they mean that God and the Bible should have no pubic As a study of “make” and “new man” will show, The only serious and important demand in England for recognition in the tax-supported institutions of the country? you have there nothing short of a new race of mankind the services of the Church of England is on coronation Only sound reasoning could give the answer. And created by the Last Adam. Christ is the Head of that race, day, or when a member of the Royal Family marries or sound reasoning demanded that the Court consider the and He is the organic Head of it. The race is organically dies. The Church of England is to the state what the custom and practices of the Congress and the States, united to Christ and Christ is organically united to the wax dummy woman is to the show window of a big and the attitude of the States and federal courts, and race, individually and collectively. Christ is the Creator department store: a thing to display an expensive dress. the Supreme Court, at the time, and immediately of the church. Christ is the Lord of the church. His The church state, whether Roman Catholic or Protestant, following the time, the amendment was adopted. relation to the church is that of the head to the body, has never been a success for either church or state. With the That was the way, and the only way, for the Court to the husband to the wife, the shepherd to the sheep. former, the state is degraded; with the latter, the church is determine the intent of the provision of the amendment. Who has any right to come between the Lord and degraded. Neither a degraded state nor a degraded church There was never a suggestion from the uniform His creation, between the Head and the body, between the has a message of vitality and hope for the citizenship. customs and practices of all those institutions mentioned, Husband and the wife, between the Shepherd and sheep? The most powerful, effective, and successful force at the time and immediately following the time the The new race belongs to its Creator and to none that has ever appeared on this earth against the union amendment was adopted, that the First Amendment had other. The body belongs to its Head and to none other. of church and state is fundamental, Bible-believing any intent beyond the prohibition of the establishing The wife belongs to her Husband and to none other. Baptists. Fundamental, Bible-believing Baptists have of a state church in this country. And not only at The sheep belong to their Shepherd and to none other. an historical identity and distinctiveness. It is the oldest the time and immediately following the time of the Because of this intimate organic relationship religious identity and distinctiveness in the world. They amendment’s adoption, but for a hundred and seventy- between Christ and the church, no assembly is too have the longest continuity of any Christian group in the one years all the congresses, all the state legislatures, small for His personal presence, interest, resources, and world. Modern research by competent authorities, some all the state and federal courts, and all the Supreme direction. He makes that plain in Matthew 18:20, “For of the greatest not being Baptists, have established and Courts uniformly held, in practice and decisions, that where two or three are gathered together in my name, substantiated some basic facts regarding the continuity the public recognition of God and the Bible in the tax- there am I in the midst of them.” The context shows of Baptists. It has been established that they did not supported institutions of this country was not only that He is not speaking of two or three as individuals; originate in the Reformation. The most cautious and compatible with the spirit and letter of the Constitution, He is speaking of them as a corporate entity with conservative historians now regard the Baptists as a people but that such recognition was morally mandatory. authority and power, to do as such an entity with the of very ancient principles, “not,” as one German historian But after more than a hundred and seventy years, an authority and power they do not have as individuals. (Ludemann) puts it, “as the rootless phenomenon, suddenly atheist and a Unitarian came before the Supreme Court And if He is the Lord of an assembly of two or springing up out of the Reformation movement, as hitherto and said to that court that the Congress that recommended three, He is the Lord of an assembly of ten thousand. it has mostly been regarded.” It has been established that the First Amendment, that the thirteen states that ratified This means that He is the Lord of all the assemblies, the Baptist movement which became so powerful in the it, that the uniform customs and practices of all the individually and collectively. He is the Lord of the church. days of the Reformation was no new thing, but was a re- congresses, that all the state and federal courts, and The organic nature of the church, the organic relationship awakening or continuation of ancient principles. One of that all the Supreme Courts for more than a hundred of the church to Christ, scorns the thought that there should those basic principles was baptism upon a profession of and seventy years have been completely wrong, and ever be any lord over her but Christ. This is the basic faith, and baptism upon a profession of faith alone. I think that the atheist and the Unitarian are completely right. reason, so far as the church is concerned, whey there should that most historians will agree that from apostolic times And what does the Supreme Court reply? It replies be a constitutional separation between church and state. there have been those who have upheld that principle. that the atheist and the Unitarian are right. How can Now, consider the state. Historically, Baptists have uniformly believed, taught, you account for an unprecedented, incredible decision The state is of a different nature. The state is the preached, and even died for four basic and fundamental like that except that the Supreme Court has abrogated total body of all the citizens. The citizens have innate principles: the Bible as the sole rule of faith and practice; the fundamental principle of exposition and reason and and inalienable rights. Our Declaration of Independence “churches” as against “the Church;” believer’s baptism; and has substituted therefore its own social philosophy? says that those rights are “life, liberty, and the pursuit of the separation of church and state. The consistent, uniform, Again, this revolutionary decision with all of happiness.” John Locke said that they are “life, liberty, continuous struggle of Baptists for those four principles its profound implications is a dramatic illustration health, indolence of the body, and the possession of outward fashioned their historical image as a distant people. of the fact that constitutional and statutory law must things, such as money, lands houses, furniture, and the like.” In the main and on the whole, Baptists have ultimately rest on a foundation of exposition and reason. It is the duty of the civil magistrate to secure to all the historically been the greatest and the most powerful I have gone over this ground to emphasize citizens these basic rights as far as his wisdom and powers advocates on earth of the separation of church and state that exposition and reason were responsible for will enable him. It is his duty to protect one citizen in his and of civil and religious liberty. It is not because, our government, with all its traditional dignity and rights against the predatory arrogance of another. It is his man for man, Baptists are better than anyone else, freedoms for the citizen. Exposition and reason were duty to enact and enforce such laws as will promote the or even as good as a great many other people. It is responsible for the amendment prohibiting a state general welfare, as will produce the greatest amount of good because of the basic principles that govern Baptists. church in this country. Exposition and reason have been for the greatest number. All the great political philosophers, Baptist opposition to the union of the church and state, responsible for our having maintained, to a remarkable Christian and pagan, have and do agree that these are Baptist contention for civil and religious liberty, is inherent. degree, this constitutional separation of church and the fundamental responsibilities of the civil magistrate. 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SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE This is why Baptists were persecuted, imprisoned, and is required, no bridge can be made between catholic and continued from page 4.... murdered for so many centuries. Their believer’s baptism evangelical. But it is now clear in ecumenical conversations was a decisive blow against the church state. It was an that Protestants generally have come to recognize the right and practice precludes an infallible pope, and it attack upon the very foundations of the state. Throughout place of tradition, just as Catholics have generally become precludes an authoritative centralized ecclesiastical twelve hundred years of history, believer’s baptism was aware of the rightness of judging all tradition by the oligarchy. That being true, you don’t have any branded as a civil crime punishable with death. On Scriptures as interpreted to the church by the Holy Spirit.” building material with which to erect a state church. April 23, 1529, Charles V, King of France, issued a The Baptist answer to that is: In the first place, the In the second place, Baptists believe in autonomous decree against Anabaptists, in which were these words: Bible, not tradition, is the sole rule of faith and practice. churches. They believe that a local church is a complete “High and venerable, illustrious dear friends, In the second place, the Holy Spirit never unit. They believe that Christ is the Head, and the only nephews, uncles, electors, princes, gentlemen, nobles, leads anyone away from the Word He has inspired. Head, of the local church. They can’t find in the Bible honourable, devout, dear lieges: Although by common In the third place, Protestants may recognize where the local church has any authority to transfer its law it is ordered and provided that no one who has once tradition as equal authority with the scriptures, but autonomy, and all the obligations and privileges that been baptized according to Christian order shall have Baptists never have and never will so recognize it! equate with it, to any centralized authority. They believe himself baptized over again or a second time, or shall Baptist principles are inherently opposed to a that a local church turning from its one and only true Head himself baptize such on one, and in the imperial laws in world church, just as they are inherently opposed to the leadership of another is the same thing as a wife particular so to do is forbidden under penalty of death . . . .” to a state church. The world church can never be turning from her husband to another man. It is adultery. And the decree said further: completely successful so long as the ancient Baptist In the third place, there is the principle of believer’s “. . . yet do we find daily that, contrary to the promulgated principles can incarnate themselves in flesh and blood. baptism. Baptists have always insisted that baptism common law and also to our mandate issued, such ancient And if we can judge the future by the past, those should follow a profession of faith, that it never should sect of the Anabaptists condemned and forbidden many principles always will be incarnated in flesh and blood. precede it. Baptists have always insisted that baptism is hundred of years ago more and more advances and spreads.” We fundamental, Bible-believing Baptists do not an external symbol of an inward reality. Baptists have If I may digress for a moment, as to the age of the Baptists, represent miscellaneous collections of historically rootless always insisted that baptism is not the thing; that it stands you will note that Charles says there, in 1529, that the religious cults and warring tribes led by ambitious, for the thing. If you don’t first have the reality, baptism, Baptists had already been on earth “many hundreds of years.” mercenary chieftains, with nothing permanent and being a symbol of the reality, is absolutely meaningless. I repeat what I stated before: The most powerful, enduring to their credit. The principles we hold, the record Believer’s baptism precludes infant baptism. And effective, and successful force against the union of church of our allegiance and loyalty to them, and the extraordinary without infant baptism there can be no union of church and state that has ever appeared on this earth is fundamental, progress we have made against overwhelming odds, and state. There can be no state church and there can be Bible-believing Baptists. And through their history they recognize and validate us as the essence of a great no church state. The Roman Catholic Church, claiming have been branded as radicals, bigots, and ignoramuses. historical and doctrinal continuity. We are a people. We the allegiance of all mankind, cannot tolerate believer’s Today we are facing a new thing: the one world have an historical identity. We have an historical image. baptism; it must demand infant baptism. A state church, totalitarian church. The chief architects and advocates We are a people with theme and purpose. We equate with claiming a priority of position and consideration, cannot don’t hesitate to tell us that the world church cannot belief in an infallible Bible, with believer’s baptism, with tolerate believer’s baptism; it demands infant baptism. be realized if the Bible is to be regarded as the sole an autonomous local church. And for two thousand years The Roman Catholic Church cannot afford to rule of faith and practice. In his now famous sermon wherever men have fought and died for civil and religious wait until the individual has reached the age of being delivered in the Episcopal Grace Cathedral in San liberty our people have been their first and last comrades. persuaded to make a responsible decision and profession Francisco in 1960, Dr. Eugene Carson Blake said: We have a great and solid substance. Let us infuse it for himself; he must become a Catholic at birth. And “The reunited church must accept the principle of with the enthusiasm of genuine hope, faith, and love. We not only must the individual become a Catholic at continuing reformation under the Word of God by the have the opportunity, we have the obligation, and we have birth, that individual must never read or study anything guidance of the Holy Spirit. A few years ago I would have the resources to write in this age of dissolution, violence, that is not approved by Catholic authority. Believer’s felt that here was an issue on which no possible agreement and defeatism, one of the finest chapters of Baptist history baptism would have wrecked the Roman Catholic could be reached. The reformation churches have ever written. Guided by the written Word of God and Church hundreds of years ago. And what believer’s traditionally found their authority for faith and life in the energized and illuminated by the Holy Spirit, let us do it! baptism would have done to the Roman Catholic Church, Scriptures alone. So long as the wording ‘sola scriptura’ it would have done to the Protestant state churches. ñ ó

country. I am proud because she is one of my “sheep,” at it. She worked hard as a single mother, and she never and because I know the kind of person she is. She loves let us sass her. Our generation obeyed and honored our her Lord and her country. I think, in that way, she even parents — or we suffered the consequences (my brother The Times Interview: Mrs. Mary Grote better represents what America was during that time in and sister and I got the weeping willow switch)! And our history. “God and thereby we learned to obey and honor all who were in Due to the theme Country” was not a authority, clear up to our president. of this issue, I thought contentious issue in the When my mother came over here, she couldn’t speak it good to interview court system back then; it English. She went to a special school to learn it, and later someone who would was a way of life. became an American citizen, for which she really had represent scores of to study. She was very proud to become an American folks in our churches BAPTIST TIMES: I citizen. Later in life she was given opportunities to visit – pastors, evangelists, want to thank you, Mary, the old country, but she said, “No, I don’t ever want to go missionaries, and first, for your service to back; I love America.” faithful laymen alike our country – service at I got saved when I was 33 years old. I’m 81 now. – who, from ongoing a time few understand My best friend, Helen, who I grew up with, came and generations, have to be as precarious as told me about Jesus, and that she had gotten “born again.” shared in the defense it was. And secondly, I She explained to me the spiritual birth, and invited me to of our freedoms. It thank you for taking time come hear this Baptist preacher from a little independent has well been said that to recount for our readers the bit of American History Lighthouse Baptist Church in South Omaha. I told her the price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Thank God for you were an important part of. he better use the Bible, ‘cause I was tired of hearing all those, this very moment, who are standing watch on our MRS. MARY GROTE: I’m glad to do it. I think the stuff I had heard in all the churches I had tried; and behalf. We are debtors. May God bless, protect, and help everybody in America needs to be like we were in World I tried them all. So I went with her, heard a message on them. War II. We should honor and support our President, even John 3:3, and got saved. Right afterward we went to a Red and Mary Grote are faithful members of my if you’re a Democrat. It doesn’t matter; you honor him lake where I was baptized. Folks who were swimming church. They are special to us here; we love them. But and pray for him; he’s our Commander-in-Chief, and stopped to listen to my testimony and watch the goings- Mary is special to our country, too. During World War we’re at war. Our country needs a lot of prayer, and lots on. I was so happy. It changed my life completely, and II, Mary worked in the Glenn L. Martin Bomber Plant in of mercy. We shouldn’t be known as a divided nation, of that of my family. My husband, Red, got saved three years Bellevue, Nebraska, as a rivet gun operator. Most-likely, fighting Democrats and Republicans; it’s time to do as we later. We’ve been serving the Lord ever since. she riveted the wings of the Enola Gay and Bockscar, did in World War II — unite with each other around the the B-29 bombers famous for dropping “Little Boy” on defense of freedom. TIMES: How did you come to be employed at the Hiroshima and “Fat Man” on Nagasaki, bringing the war Martin Bomber Plant during the war? How old were to an end. I say “most-likely,” because Mary tells me TIMES: First, tell us a little bit about yourself—where you when you hired on; and how did you get the job of the plans for and identities of those super fortress aircraft you were raised; things about your family; how you operating a rivet gun? were top-secret. She riveted scores of Martin aircraft came to get saved and know the Lord. MRS. GROTE: I left school at 15 and lied about my age produced during the war effort. MRS. GROTE: I was raised in South Omaha, Nebraska, so I could work in a packing house to help my mother. Mary epitomized the title, Rosie the Riveter. In and my family came from a part of Austria that later I was almost 18 when I started at the Martin Plant; it the 1940s she was a red-headed, patriotic supporter of became Yugoslavia; we are of Serbian descent. My opened shortly after the war broke out. I think I hired and worker in the American Cause against Japanese mother, at 12 years old, just missed sailing over on the on in the summer of 1942. There was a big ad that came imperialism and German fascism. In 1995, when the Titanic, and came on the sister ship, the Olympia. My out inviting people to be specially trained at Omaha Tech State of Nebraska spearheaded a national 50th Anniversary father came from Austria, too, but he came several years High School. I decided I wanted to be a riveter, or do Commemoration of the end of WWII, Mary was chosen later. A few years and three children after marrying my something on the airplanes, because we were attacked by to represent all the female civilian wartime production mother, Dad deserted us. I never saw him again until the Japanese and everybody was doing something. So I workers. She was Rosie the Riveter, in that regard. I years after I was married. But Mother raised us very well. went to apply, and they hired me, trained me, and put me am proud when I see her in newsreels and video clips We were taught the value of hard work; whatever it was, in the wing section of the B-29 assembly line. at military and war history museums in our part of the as long as it was honest, you were to do your very best ...continued on page 7  G L O B A L BAPTIST TIMES

THE HEARTLAND BBC REPORT Glad Tidings of Good Things By Jeff Copes, Heartland BBC Executive Vice-President

The May 2006 Graduation Fellowship Week was a great meeting filled with good fellowship, godly music, and of course, spirit-filled preaching. Each message was timely and came straight from the Lord. (A complete set of the messages can be purchased by contacting the school.) And the meeting was well attended: the campus “gymatorium” was full each morning, and the crowd that filled the sanctuary at Southwest Baptist Church grew each evening. By Thursday night the church was “packed out” for the 2006 Commencement Service. It was a blessing to witness the graduation of 81 well-prepared soldiers. The new Chapel Auditorium project has received the green light! Bro. Davison introduced the vision of the new chapel building in his message on Wednesday morning, just prior to the annual May Offering. Earlier in the week, the College Executive Committee and Board of Directors voted to allow the Administration to proceed with this much-needed project. The plan is to raise approximately $2,000,000 in the next two years, intending to then break ground and raise the remaining funds as the construction process progresses. The planned building specifications are as follows: 30,500 square feet; 1,300 seat auditorium with a balcony; four expandable large classrooms; and a $3,000,000 total estimated cost. During the Friends of Heartland business meeting, a detailed plan was presented explaining how to help raise the project funds, followed by an official vote to proceed with the project. In addition to the regular monthly and May Offering support, the administration introduced two fund-raising projects to help pay for the new chapel building. It is requested that all churches in support of the college introduce one or both of these projects to their members as soon as possible. The two projects are: 1) the Annual “Coffee Change” Drive; and 2) the Annual “Purchase a Square Foot” Drive. Please watch your mail for more details regarding these programs; and if you have any questions, please feel free to call me personally. Praise God, the 2006 May Offering goal ($650K) was surpassed with a total commitment of over $656,000 (including $400,000 cash-in-hand) through the giving of over 250 churches. These monies, together with regular monthly support (from most of the same churches), directly underwrite approximately 42% of the total cost to educate a Heartland student. We are so very thankful to the Lord for every church and each individual that supports the school prayerfully and financially. I assure you that every dollar is needed and makes a difference in the normal, ongoing operations of the school. We praise the Lord for all of these blessings, and we look forward to a great new school year of service for the Lord beginning in August. ñ ó

and Fourth of July picnics; and don’t forget the fireworks. lesson would always end with a brief description of his However, it just isn’t the same today. So much of what civilian work placing oxygen systems in B-24 bombers I witnessed, experienced, and felt deep in my soul during World War II. Proudly, he would reminisce about during Memorial Day and the Fourth of July is no longer the importance of his job. It was clear, though he never remembered today. served in the military; he felt his job was very important My dad and mom would always get us up early on to our nation’s success during the war. THE FLORIDA Memorial Day. It would be a day for lessons in civic To us youngsters those men seemed so old, their BAPTIST responsibility and history. Dressed in our best attire, battles so far away, yet their sacrifice so real. The red, COLLEGE donning our little white sailor hats, we would line up white and blue banner of freedom, our flag, was finding a along the parade route. place of prominence and appreciation in my heart. Still REPORT “It’s Memorial Day! Do you know what that means today it waves in stately prominence and signals to all of A Time to Remember kids?” Well, we did because we had heard this lecture us who care to remember, a message of freedom. before. We had watched this parade before. Coming from I am writing this article from the campus of By Bruce Turner, President a small farm town, the parade line would not be long; James Madison University, while attending a Christian a few retired heroes of previous wars, a few old pieces Education conference. One of the events of the week has Though I do not live in a of military equipment, and my favorite, the amphibious been “Man on the Street.” A street reporter challenged cold climate which gives way to vehicle we affectionately called the “Duck” would slowly young people to see if they remember James Madison. the warming breezes of summer, I still love the summer pass by in review. The answers have been hilarious, but down right heart- season. The children (now grandchildren), are out of My father would quickly call us boys to attention. breaking. One student said, “a basketball player,” another school and ready for some quality time with family. The old white-headed men would pass by us as we quipped, “a clown.” Yet another said, “The President of Family picnics, fun trips, and hopefully a vacation, are cheered and clapped in fervent approval. “These are James Madison University.” among the things waiting. Summer is a great time of the your heroes,” my dad would say. “You need to remember year. what they have done to keep America free.” His history As a child, I always enjoyed Memorial Day parades ...continued on page 12

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meeting, or Bible college that was not owned, controlled, GIBM SERVICE funded, organized, and run by their own church. I really OFFICE REPORT don’t know of anyone who is quite that “consistent.” LET’S NOT MAKE THE Such skepticism notwithstanding, I do believe there are things the GIBF and GIBM must be on guard about. THE FUTURE OF THIS SAME MISTAKES…Again COLUMN 1. We must guard against becoming a political machine. By Robert Lewis, GIBM Another word for this might be “denominational.” We The purpose of the articles Executive Asst. Director are Baptists, and we hold historic Baptist positions. in this column will be to This places us in the only denomination with roots specifically deal with the pastor (Matthew 28:18): “And Jesus came and spake unto in the Bible, but we must be careful to maintain the and the many financial situations them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and doctrines and scriptural polity that identify us and keep he faces. In this day and age, in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing us independent. pastors have to be preachers, them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of counselors, administrators, the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things 2. We must guard against worshipping our heroes. financial advisors, business whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with There is more than one decorated soldier in this army. So managers, building managers, and so on. Some of the you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.” far, our loyalty to Christ has far out-weighed any honors following are not in my area of expertise, but I do believe If there is anything obvious and outstanding about given to men for this work. We must keep it that way, for I can be of assistance. Future topics I plan to discuss will New Testament Baptist churches, it is that they are in God’s glory and honor. be: a) the pastor and personal finances; b) the pastor and the soul-seeking business. For of all of the things Jesus church finances (salary, retirement, etc.); c) the pastor - said and did, one clear command continually permeates 3. We must guard against becoming a landholding deacon relationship regarding business affairs; d) the His teaching to His churches: “Go into all the world and company. We want to help churches help their pastor and his personal estate planning; and e) the pastor preach the gospel to every creature.” Today’s churches missionaries. We don’t want to help them get so entangled and his care for deceased church members and their have varying degrees of commitment to keeping this that they are no longer free to choose the direction of families. There will be other areas, too, as we go along command, yet it remains at the pinnacle of Christian their own ministries. We don’t want them in debt to in this column. I want to be a blessing and a help as we theology. a “board.” We want church-sent missionaries to prosper consider various matters in stewardship. I ask for input Many of us are on the narrow pathway; and as the Lord provides opportunity for them under their from you preachers -- your thoughts and some stories you I say, “Amen to the narrow pathway.” We are not pastor’s leadership. would not mind sharing with our readership. interdenominational, non-denominational, universal, Not everything discussed will take a doctrinal study nor liberal in our theology. We are local church, New 4. We must guard against allowing men to lead us form, and many conditions will be different from church Testament Baptists. We practice Baptist baptism and who are not with us. Sometimes the position, power, or to church. Obviously, some matters are clearly doctrinal; closed communion. But the spectrum of our differences performance of a man will cause us to look the other way for the Bible certainly teaches on the subject. However, fans out considerably after we get past these issues. when his doctrinal practices are considered. This practice much is situational and will be analyzed in respect to Sometimes we are prone to label or condemn as liberal will lead us back to places we have already been. where you live, the size of your church, and even the or modernist all those who do not agree with us in every length of time you have served there. thought and every practice. God forbid that one of us 5. We must guard against retreating because of the One thing I would like to hone in on is how a pastor should read a book that is not by an “approved” author, failure of others to do right. Evangelizing the world is should be called and a church’s responsibility to care or suggest, by a slip of the tongue, that a fellowship is still the main, God-given responsibility of every one of for their pastor. One failure in our independent Baptist something that you “join.” In fact, it appears to me that our churches. To stop, slow down, or fumble the ball movement has been letting the pastor “fend for himself.” some fellows have the idea that in order to be a good because others have somehow disappointed us is beneath I know we trust the Lord for His provision and blessing, fundamentalist one has to condemn somebody! the dignity and cause of our calling. We must preach and but that does not mean a church has no responsibility in I reject the art of sarcastic condemnation. I do pray for men to surrender to the Lord’s work, pray for ministering to their pastor’s physical needs. “Let the not read of it in the scriptures. Critical sarcasm and their success, and give to their support. This is how we elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, condemnation reminds me more of a lost man than it does can keep the main thing the main thing. especially they who labour in the word and doctrine” (I one of the servants of Christ. Following this thought lays Tim. 5: 17.) “For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou the foundation for several points of self-evaluation. No doubt, in time, all that is done by man will be shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the Most have heard the statement, “If someone takes affected by the corruption that is in man. This is a self- corn. Doth God take care for oxen?” (I Cor. 9:9.) advantage of you once, shame on them; but if they take evident truth when you look at the history of organizations. I am convinced that our churches want to care for advantage of you twice, shame on you.” This kind of Even churches can be corrupted by corrupt men. This their pastor, but it is a subject too often avoided. And thinking has made us gun-shy of good things (good is no excuse for you and me who are aware of these many pastors do not have a long tenure at their respective things can be used badly, but they are still good things.) sad truths to avoid our responsibility to our generation. churches. Some begin to think that any idea not born in one’s very We must serve Him better! Taking the gospel to every If you would like to send me questions, comments, or own church is from Satan. Others believe that if they creature in the world is a “must do” if we are going to topics for consideration, please contact me at asburyinc@ themselves are not in charge of whatever is being done, call ourselves Baptists and claim to be soldiers in the aol.com. I may also be reached at Joe Asbury, P. O. Box it will surely come to naught. Such thinking cannot army of the King of Kings. We “must do” it immediately, 519, Hymera, Indiana 47855; (812) 201-5082. support, vote for, nor say anything good about mutual regardless of the failures of others, regardless of the pain, efforts. After all, they have seen the direction others and regardless of the expense. We must go through doors ñ ó have taken, so any collective effort is probably going to that are open to us, regardless of the hardships or dangers fail. However, if one is consistent in such applications of involved. Otherwise, we only talk; little is done, Satan skepticism, one would not participate in a youth camp, wins, and souls go to hell. mother/daughter banquet, men’s conference, revival ñ ó

GETTING TO KNOW GODS SERVANTS a factory environment, was a condition new to the husbands overseas. You might be working, and all of a continued from page 5.... American culture, wasn’t it? What was the ratio of sudden you would see some high military officer come in women to men; and what were the working conditions and get a woman. We knew her husband had just gotten TIMES: So, how did you get the job of riveting? Did in the plant? killed. And we never saw the woman again. That was the they just assign you that or MRS. GROTE: Yes, the number of saddest part. did you ask for it? women working was new, but all MRS. GROTE: They assigned the young men had enlisted (they TIMES: What were the political or philosophical me to riveting because I had didn’t wait to be drafted) and went requirements for being able to work at a war- been trained at the school for off to fight, so women were needed production plant during World War II? that job. We learned how to to work in the airplane plants. I MRS. GROTE: They took pictures of us, and then they read blue prints, how to rivet don’t know what the ratio was, checked our background. We were interviewed and cold and hot rivets, and how to but there were men, too. We had answered questions when we were hired. do our job first-rate. We were both men and women supervisors. taught how to swell a rivet and As far as I was concerned, the TIMES: While at the plant, did you follow any service seal it. Our work was checked working conditions were good. I reports on certain aircraft that you had produced or by inspectors, and if there was was treated well. I was single, but worked on? Were any planes brought back to the just one flaw in a rivet, like I determined that I wasn’t going to Martin Plant for repairs after having been damaged a little crack, a great big red date anybody at the plant. I didn’t in battle? X went on it, which meant trust anybody. MRS. GROTE: No, we had no way to follow specific “rejected.” A bad rivet could ruin the wing. planes. When a plane was finished, sometimes the crews I worked with a young lady who was out all night. We TIMES: Was patriotism a constant motivator? Were assigned to that plane would come to pick it up. They had worked the third shift. She was out doing things she a lot of people there because of their patriotism, to okay everything and look around to see that everything shouldn’t do, and she came to work. She messed up the wanting to get into the war effort? was built right. The crews of the Enola Gay and Bockscar rivets but good, and they rejected her work and fired her MRS. GROTE: That’s right. We were bombed by the did so; but most workers never saw them. And we didn’t on the spot. enemy, and we didn’t ask for it. The war was a regular know which planes were which anyway. TIMES: Women in the work place, especially in concern and conversation topic. Many of the women had ...continued on page 10  G L O B A L BAPTIST TIMES

Annual “Alaska Awareness” children knowing Bible verses. A project of producing attack came as a complete surprise. Prisk’s wife, Cheryl, preaching CD's to give the people has also been started. was with him on the trip, but was not with him when the Conference drawing close We in Iraq are very thankful for your prayers and heart attack occurred. Their daughter, Meleah Holloway, By the Editor support. We believe the Lord is making all things work lives in Trail, B.C. with her husband, Scott. Prisk also for good; we can see a year full of fruit. We are suffering leaves three grown sons, Jason, Luke, and Nathan, all of Final preparations are underway for the sixth annual from very bad circumstances, but we thank the Lord for whom live in the Atlanta, Georgia area. “Alaska Awareness” Home-Missions Conference, hosted brethren like you who help us, as promised in I Cor 10:13. Prisk started Bible Baptist Church after moving by the Victory Baptist Church of Anchorage, August 8- We know that this is a time of testing; a big reward will to Whid-bey Island, Washington from Sacramento, 10, 2006. Host Pastor Joe Carson is excited to invite come after victory. California in the early 1970s. Initially the congregation everyone to venture up to “America’s Last Frontier” for met in Coupeville, but they soon purchased land along some “great preaching, excellent food, and fellowship- May Missions Conference in the Highway 20 south of Oak Harbor. Prisk became that-money-can’t-buy!” Plan your attendance now; time nationally-known through literature and Bible curricula is running out. “City of Brotherly Love” produced by the church. “Some people are shocked Featured speakers for this year’s conference are: A report by David Peterman right now,” Sargent said of reaction to the death of Bro. Bros. Tom Wallace, Larry Clayton, Greg Waggoner, and Prisk. “They’re grieving the loss of their pastor and Mike Holmes. Other preachers will be called from the A tremendous Missions Conference was held May friend.” Many others, too, throughout the country, are floor as the Lord leads, so be sure to bring a sermon when 17-21, 2006 at Christ Independent Baptist Church, in grieving with them. you come. All that you need is your transportation to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, where Bro. Victor Rivera Anchorage (halftrack anybody?). Ground transportation, is pastor. The main conference preacher was Bro. Bob Funeral services were held at the Oak Harbor church lodging and meals are provided as needed (whale knife Lewis, Executive Asst-Director of Global Independent on Saturday, June 3rd. anybody?); but bring your bedding (electric jammies Baptist Missions. The Tim Hewitt Family to Sri Lanka anybody?)! presented their work on Wednesday, the 10th, as a “pre- ñ ó Parson Carson asks that you communicate your conference” presentation. During the regular conference, intentions and needs by posting him, asap, at Pastor@ the participating missionaries were: Bro. and Mrs. John VBCAnchorage.com Casias, Mexico; Bro. Joe McEldowney, Madagascar; and Mush, huskies! the Ed Oster Family, Argentina. OUR AMAZING The Lord blessed the Conference in so many ways, NATIONAL BIRD Men’s Retreat to gather near Omaha and challenged the church! Bro. Lewis preached some Author unknown By the Editor great messages that were right on target! God moved in a great way. Three folks were saved during the Saturday The 2006 High Plains Baptist Men’s Retreat will soul winning; one was saved during services and later meet near Ashland, Nebraska, October 5th-7th (Thurs. baptized in the Sunday evening service; and five folks eve.—Sat. noon), this-coming fall. Featured speakers surrendered to missionary service! The church also saw include Pastor Kevin Folger, Cleveland Baptist Church, a 25% increase in faith promises over last year. Praise the Cleveland, Ohio, Nat’l Moderator of the GIBF, and Bro. Lord! Jeff Copes, Executive VP of Heartland Baptist Bible College, Oklahoma City. Heartland’s Glory Bound Tommy L. Stone (1934-2006) Quartet is also scheduled to be in attendance. The Retreat Eagles are the most long-lived bird in the world. site is a remote, self-contained campground facility A faithful soldier is Home safe Their life span is up to 70 years. But, in about 15 miles SW of Omaha. All the men need bring is order to live this long, an eagle must make Funeral services for Evangelist Tommy L. Stone, 71, bedding, towels, and toiletries. its toughest decision at 40. By the time they of Kilgore, Texas, were held May 5, 2006 at the Grace For Retreat fees and other details, contact Midlands reach 40 years old, eagles’ claws will start to Baptist Church in Kilgore, Rev. Donnie Beebe officiating. Bible Baptist Church, 2407 Chandler Road East, Bellevue, age, losing their effectiveness, making it hard Bro. Stone passed away Sunday, April 30th, in Kilgore. NE 68005; (402) 731-5932; [email protected] for eagles to catch prey. Its beak is so long and Tommy Stone was born in Italy, Texas, and was curvy that it reaches the eagle's chest. Its wings, saved at 18 years of age. At the age of 25, he began to full of long, thickened feathers are too heavy for Church Continues in Baghdad, Iraq preach the gospel. He pastored for 20 years in churches easy flying. The eagle is left with two choices: An edited report by Ronny George in Henderson and Sherman, Texas. For nearly thirty years do nothing and await death or go through a Bro. Stone served in evangelism, known and beloved for Baghdad Bible Baptist Church in Baghdad, Iraq is painful period of transformation and renewal. his unique style and down-home wit. He sang and played doing well. We are still having new people and losing For 150 days an eagle trains itself to fly several instruments, being most-known for his musical some others. Those we lose are mostly leaving the beyond the high mountains, build and live in its handsaw. country, but some leave the Lord because of pressure nest, and cease all flying activities. It then begins He is survived by his wife of fifty years, Dollie Stone; from their families and traditional churches. The people to knock its beak against granite rocks until the three daughters and sons-in-law; three sisters; five we have are happy and they know the difference in their beak is completely removed. When a new beak grandchildren; and five great grandchildren. life, and this is good. Even people who leave to return is grown, the eagle will use it to remove all its Memorials may be made to the Tommy L. Stone to their traditional church go back with a different spirit. old claws and wait quietly for new ones to grow. Memorial c/o Grace Baptist Church, 119 Peavine Road, Maybe they couldn't stand the pressure of their church When the new claws are fully grown the eagle Kilgore, Texas 75662 (Pastor Donnie Beebe, is Bro. and family, but a difference happened in their spiritual will use them to remove all its feathers, one by Stone’s brother-in-law). life and in their relationship with the Lord. Praise the one. Five months later when its new feathers have Lord for changed lives. grown in, it will soar in the sky again with renewed Here is the question I ask: Is our success in ministry Gary Prisk Graduates strength and be able to live for the next 30 years. determined by God changing people's lives, or is it by to Glory Suddenly Sometimes in life (for an individual, in having a big number in attendance each Sunday, never a ministry, even in an organization), we must mind how they think and by what principles and doctrine An edited report by the learn to make difficult decisions with stamina, they are living? I want a Baptist church composed of Whidbey News-Times effectiveness, and longevity in view. Continuance Baptist people! demands renewal. The only way to soar again Another important change, as we start our third year, Brother Gary Prisk, who is to let go of old natures, old habits, and old is that the neighbors have started to accept the church founded Bible Baptist Church, conditions. For, if we are prepared to put aside in their neighborhood. The love they saw from us and Oak Harbor, Washington, nearly our old baggage -- past glory or shame, past how we behave among them, especially amid critical 32 years ago, died suddenly of success or failure -- be willing to become zero, situations, has changed their attitude. an apparent heart attack in Trail, British Columbia. Prisk, with an empty cup mentality, then we will be Every Friday we have a Bible study lesson. Friday is 59, stepped down as full-time pastor of the church in able to rediscover our potential and fly into any a holiday in Iraq, so people like to come on Friday. People March of this year to devote his time to preaching and challenge with a renewed perspective and vigor. love this service and they tell me, “Nobody has explained traveling. He was in Trail to preach at a conference, visit Isaiah 40:31 tells us “...but they that wait the Bible to us like you do.” We are studying the gospel with family, and do some fishing. Bible Baptist Church upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they of Mark; I write out my notes and copy some pages from Pastor Jeremiah Sargent said Prisk was driving alone, shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall commentaries and give to them. The children’s ministry returning from a fishing trip when he pulled over alongside run, and not be weary; and they shall walk and has been successful, too. We give them two papers; one the road. Witnesses believed he was suffering from chest not faint.” contains a Bible verse to learn and some coloring and pains. “Some passing loggers tried to help,” Sargent said, The Nation which has the eagle for its activities to do. The other paper has a Bible story with “but it was too late.” To Sargent’s knowledge, Prisk had national bird needs to renew itself as well. something to color. The parents are happy to have their not been suffering from any health problems, and the heart

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Dave, Jon Shonebarger Thank you for the sample issues of the paper you Canon City, Colorado "One of the beautiful boasts of our municipal now edit. Welcome to the world of stress, deadlines, jurisprudence is that Christianity is a part of the promised articles and reports that never come or arrive so (Note: Jon was called to preach under my ministry. I Common Law...There never has been a period badly-written as to require a complete re-write, readers think it goes without saying he is somewhat biased -- in which the Common Law did not recognize who object to the most nit-picky of things, offended maybe brainwashed -- maybe delusional!) Christianity as lying at its foundations...I verily believe writers who send "really great stuff" that is so awful as to Wow! Thank you, Bro Jon. Your accolades are Christianity necessary to the support of civil society." be unfit to print, rising costs and declining contributions, stunning. I feel pretty incompetent and unqualified - Joseph Story (1779-1845) and on and on and on. If you have managed in the first (especially when Noel Smith is mentioned -- that's like four months to avoid any of these, rest assured, they are seeing your golf score posted on the same board "Providence has given our people the choice of on the way! And now you know why your predecessor with Tiger Woods: rather out of place!). If the paper their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege passed the task on to you early! achieves anything close to your portrayal, it's entirely and interest of our Christian nation, to select and prefer There, now that your day has started on a positive and incredibly God's doing, I assure you! Keep me in Christians as their rulers." note... 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Keep up the good work. this Duty; if the citizens neglect their duty and place Clearwater, Kansas unprincipled men in office, the government will soon Frank Wood be corrupted; laws will be made, not for the public Thanks, Bro Doug…I think! New Castle, Indiana good so much as for selfish or local purposes; corrupt - Editor or incompetent men will be appointed to execute Thanks, Bro. Frank; and thanks for your service on the laws; the public revenues will be squandered on Bro. Farinella, the Times Review Board. unworthy men; and the rights of the citizen will be I would love to get the Times sent to me on a regular violated or disregarded. If our government fails to basis. We just started a church here in Layton, Utah, last SPECIAL NOTICE: secure public prosperity and happiness, it must be July and are attempting to get into a building by this June. 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Younger slowly entered the room where the four caskets Rotunda and escorted to the Memorial Amphitheater in were placed. Passing between two lines formed by the Arlington National Cemetery, under a military escort, officials, he silently advanced to the caskets, circled them with general officers of the Army and admirals of the three times, and placed a spray of white roses on the third Navy for pallbearers, and noncommissioned officers casket from the left. He then faced the body, stood at of the Navy and Marine Corps for body bearers. A HALLOWED attention, and saluted. He was immediately followed by Following the caisson bearing the flag-draped casket officers of the French Army who saluted in the name of walked such a concourse as had never before followed a PLACE IN OUR the French people. soldier. Justices of the Supreme Court, Members of the “The body lay in State for several hours before being Diplomatic Corps, wearers of the Congressional Medal NATION’S transported by train to Le Havre. The train was met by of Honor, Senators, Members of Congress, Generals of CAPITAL French officials and troops and citizens of Le Havre the Armies of the World War and former wars, and other who had gathered that they, too, might pay homage to distinguished Army, Navy, and Marine Corps officers, On our first visit to Washington America’s Unknown Soldier. Accompanied by many Veterans of World War I and former wars, and State D.C., my wife, Grace, and I floral tributes and escorted by French and American officials and representatives of patriotic organizations. had the privilege of seeing the troops, the solemn procession moved through the city of Solemnly through streets, lined with thousands gathered Capitol, enjoying a personal Le Havre to the pier where the American cruiser Olympia, to pay homage to those who died on the field of battle, visit with U.S. Senator Don Nickels, and touring the Admiral Dewey’s flagship at the battle of Manila Bay, the procession moved on the apse where it was reverently Smithsonian. However, we were most-impressed and awaited with her flags at half mast to receive the precious placed upon the catafalque. During the processional, the deeply moved by attending the changing of the guard at cargo which she was to bring to the homeland. Here, vast audience, both within and without the Amphitheater, the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. with ceremonies befitting the solemn occasion, the casket stood uncovered. A simple but impressive funeral Following is a brief account, taken from The was turned over to the United States Navy and placed on ceremony was conducted, which included an address by Quartermaster Review, (Sept/Oct 1963), of when the the flower-decked stern of the cruiser for the long journey the President of the United States who conferred upon body of the first Unknown was selected and entombed at to America. Slowly and silently the Olympia moved the Unknown Soldier the Congressional Medal of Honor the hallowed site. The World War I soldier interred was from the pier, and with a salute of seventeen guns from a and the Distinguished Service Cross. Following this chosen from the remains of four Unknowns considered; French destroyer, to which she promptly responded, the ceremony, special representatives of foreign governments and he rests there today, together with later additions journey of the Unknown Soldier to his homeland began. associated with the United States in the World War each from World War II, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War. “On November 9, 1921, at 4:00 PM, the Olympia in turn conferred upon the Unknown the highest military Because of the development of DNA technology, there reached the Navy yard at Washington, D.C. where the decoration of their nation. may never be another unknown soldier. flag-draped casket was solemnly delivered by the Navy “At the conclusion of these ceremonies, the “After the four bodies were arranged in the Hotel de to the Army, represented by the Commanding General of remains, preceded by the clergy, the President and Mrs. Ville, the next step was the matter of selecting the one the District of Washington, and escorted to the rotunda Harding, and others seated in the apse, were borne to the from among them to represent all the Unknown American of the Capitol. Here upon the same catafalque that had sarcophagus where a brief committal service was held. Dead. This ceremony, though simple, was most impressive. similarly held the remains of Presidents Lincoln, Garfield With three salvos of artillery, the sounding of taps, and In view of his outstanding service, to Sergeant Edward and McKinley, the body lay in State under a guard of the National Salute, the impressive ceremonies were Younger, on duty with the American Forces in Germany, honor composed of selected men of the Army, Navy brought to a close.” was given the honor of making the final selection. On and Marine Corps. All during the next day, thousands The Inscription on the Tomb reads: “HERE RESTS Monday morning, October 24, 1921, at 10:00 AM, in the of patriotic individuals, including highest officials of IN HONORED GLORY AN AMERICAN SOLDIER presence of the Quartermaster General, the Commanding the Government, members of the Diplomatic Corps, and KNOWN BUT TO GOD.” General of the American Forces in Germany, the Mayor private citizens passed before the casket to pay homage to of Chalons-sur-Marne, high officers of the French Army, The Unknown Soldier who symbolized all our Unknown ñ ó distinguished French citizens and eminent American and the purpose for which they died. and French civilians, the selection was made. While a “On the morning of November 11, 1921, Armistice French military band played an appropriate air, Sergeant Day, at 8:30 AM, the casket was removed from the Capitol

GETTING TO KNOW GODS SERVANTS in the lunch room, but I don’t remember it while we were May God have mercy on us! Really, it’s awful. I’m like continued from page 7.... working. We had riveters running, and they were loud. you, Pastor; if I met some of those people, I would lose my temper. I know we worked on those planes, but they were top- TIMES: Was there any concern about the Martin After I was selected, I represented the wartime secret planes and we wouldn’t have known they were any Plant being a target of enemy bombing raids? Did workers in many public events. We were in parades; we different. Fred Olivi, co-pilot of Bockscar, said that he you have any related drills? traveled on a reenacted Union Pacific troop train, carrying had to sign for his plane, and at that time he thought it was MRS. GROTE: We had no concerns. We were young war veterans and dignitaries across the state, stopping worth nearly $1 million. and fearless. We were going to get those planes out, and at the old “canteen” sites with those who worked them I don’t remember that any planes were ever bro-ught we didn’t think about that. I don’t remember having any during the war; we dedicated war memorials and raised back after being damaged. I was on the assembly line for drills like that. funds for the same. I got to meet special people like one the new ones. of the Doolittle Raiders, and Fred Olivi, the co-pilot of TIMES: What was it like at Bockscar, the B-29 that dropped the bomb on Nagasaki. TIMES: Was there a the plant when the Japanese Fred was a nice man and very patriotic. We became competitive spirit among surrender was announced? friends. We corresponded, and he invited my husband employees of the Martin MRS. GROTE: That was “VJ and me to come to his home in Chicago, but we never Plant with those of other Day.” I wasn’t at the plant when went. Fred passed away in 2004 at the age of 82. He aircraft plants; was either VJ or VE Day happened. I didn’t apologize for dropping the bomb, and neither did I. there some challenge only worked at the Martin Plant for When reporters asked me, “Don’t you feel bad about the to produce a certain about a year and a half. After that atomic bomb?” I said, “They started it and we finished amount of planes to I went to Florence, South Carolina it.” I don’t think they ever printed that. beat some other plant’s with my sister. Her husband was a production? gunner on an airplane, stationed out TIMES: What other wartime experiences or lessons MRS GROTE: Not that I of there. She was ill and I went to learned would you like to relate? know of; we never heard live with them. MRS. GROTE.: My generation learned that united, we it. I think everyone was together in doing the best job we stand. But we’re not going to stand if we’re all pulled could do for the cause. But we did get what they called TIMES: How did you happen to be chosen for the apart like what’s going on now. We need to be united; we the “E Award” for putting out the most planes and the best WW II 50th Anniversary — to represent the war need to pray that God will have mercy on our nation. We planes — we were recognized for doing good airplane production women? What all did that entail? could lose our country if we’re not careful. I got some work and getting them out on time. The plant was given MRS. GROTE: The Anniversary Committee was looking e-mails showing a flag hoisted at a Los Angeles school, a flag with the “E” on it, and it hung on the flagstaff. for people who had worked at the Martin Plant, and those and it was not our flag. Below that flag was Old Glory, President Roosevelt came through to recognize our job, considered as a representative had to write an essay. An upside down. That’s treasonous! In our day they would but I was on the third shift; he came on the first shift. Air Force Major came and met with me, asked some have been shot. We have inherited freedoms that men questions, and read my essay. He liked it. I told him that died to give us, and some things done today should not TIMES: There was a lot of great wartime music with when I was young, if anybody said anything against our be tolerated. war effort themes; what were some of your favorites? country or our president, they got met out in the alley. My prayer is that everybody in America would Did wartime music have any part in the work place; Nobody dared to say anything against America back then. respect our president and support our country, whether did they play any of that while you were working? I wish it was that way today. I get so irritated at folks like Republican or Democrat. MRS. GROTE: My favorites were “Praise the Lord and Kennedy and what’s-her-name from California — Boxer; You have to respect our president; you may not have Pass the Ammunition,” “There’ll be Bluebirds over the she is horrible! She is so radical, always talking against voted for him, but you’ve got to respect him and pray that White Cliffs of Dover,” “When Johnny Comes Marching our president. I’d like to meet her face to face. Where God will give him wisdom and help to lead us. Pray for Home Again,” and Kate Smith’s “God Bless America.” would we be if people like her were around during World revival in our country, as we’re instructed in II Chron. Those were some of our songs. They don’t make songs War II? We got bombed first. And the Germans — we 7:14! like they used to! were fighting these two big wars, you know. Where ñ ó I don’t remember hearing music at work — maybe would we be if back then people were like they are now?

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CHURCH LISTING Kansas New Jersey South Carolina • Grace Baptist Church • Open Door Bible Baptist Church • Southside Baptist Church Alabama Dr. Rex Fuller, Pastor Pastor George Siebold, John Hawkins Dr. Kenneth Walters • Evangelism Missions, Inc. 101 D Street 521 Lakewood-Farmingdale Rd. 1229 South Anderson Road Dr. Braxton Baker Washington, KS 66968 Howell, NJ 07731 Rock Hill, SC 29730 P.O. Drawer 550 (785) 427-3284 (732) 938-7777 (803) 324-0627 Thorsby, AL 35171 (205) 646-0808 • Shawnee Mission Baptist Temple New York Pastor Kevin L. Metsinger • Open Door Bible Baptist Church Texas Alaska 12230 West 75th Street Pastor Pete Montoro • Twin Cities Baptist Temple • Victory Baptist Church Shawnee, KS 66216 P.O. Box 5264 Dr. Charles Trull, Pastor Pastor Joe Carson (913) 631-5149 Astoria, NY 11105-5264 216 Wake Village Rd. 2520 E. Tudor Road. 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Evangelist Listing GIBMissions Endorsed Missionaries Evangelist Mike Haxton 602 Manco Road, Lewisville, TX 75067; Dr. Larry Clayton Ex-Mormon Bishop [email protected] ; (972) 436-3493 P.O. Box 29 6201 Tieton Drive Celina, OH 45822 Yakima, WA 98908 ARGENTINA - Ed and Angela Oster (216) 533-8239 (509) 952-3520 CAMBODIA - Seth and Megan Mau [email protected] GLOBAL BUILDERS - Rob and Joan Watson Evangelist John Bishop GLOBAL EVANGELIST – Robert & Judy Lewis Missionary Evangelist Glenn Stockton God Is So Good Ministries The Pastor’s Friend HUNGARY - Dave and Lori Frauenhofer 99 Christian Ranch Rd. 935 Bluewater Dr. INDIA - Tim and Hulda Herndon Rose Bud, AR 72137 Indian Harbour Beach, FL 32937 INDIA - Paul Sluga www.Godissogood.net (321) 777-9173 Home (321) 271-0569 Cell MADAGASCAR - Joe and Jeniece McEldowney (501) 556-5837 MEXICO - Jesus and Patricia Venegas Joe Asbury Evangelist Hal Hightower MEXICO - John and Wanda Casias Christian Stewardship Ministry 21 years of pastoral experience MEXICO - Duane and Candy Watts P.O. Box 519 Revivals, Miss Conf., S.W. Conf. NAURU – Adam and Christy McGeorge Hymera, IN 47855 26737 Gene Dr. SCOTLAND - Russell and Janet Brinkley (812)201-5082 Lebanon, MO 65536 SCOTLAND - Keith and Barbara Harris (417) 718-4412 SRI LANKA - Tim and Jessica Hewitt

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The Pastor’s Wife were frightened and didn’t follow God’s commands; therefore they failed to experience the wonderful FREEDOM… WILL IT STILL RING? freedoms which could have been theirs. By Mrs. Mickie Randolph It was the same for our forefathers who came to America in search of freedoms which were unknown Recently our youngest in their native countries. They hungered for what they daughter, Rachel, and her and their children could have in a new land: freedom, THE FLORIDA BAPTIST COLLEGE REPORT husband had a beautiful baby girl. freedom, freedom – which is what every person longs continued from page 6.... (For those who are interested, for! For Israel, it was freedom from Egyptian bondage. her name is Adrianne Paige Roy, For our forefathers, it was freedom to worship God and Finally one student remembered Madison was one of our born April 25th, at 7:52 A.M., live as free people. For Christians, it is freedom over United States presidents, though she wasn’t sure if he weighing in at 7 lbs. 3 oz., and sin and salvation in Jesus Christ. was the 40th or the 80th president. (Do the math.) My 20 in. long. She is the prettiest Our nation will soon be celebrating its 230th initial laughter turned to mourning as I realized our youth little baby I have ever seen!) birthday. Our country was founded on God’s Word and have forgotten or maybe never learned things important Oh, where has the time the right to worship Him freely, without suppression. to know. gone? It seems just yesterday while in Bible college my Men and women have fought for and even died for these I now sound like a sentimental old fool. Well, my husband and I were having our first child, Carrie. We freedoms we hold dear. Psalm 33:12 says, “Blessed is hair is white and I am worried about who will be left were so concerned that we would do everything right with the nation whose God is the LORD; and the people to tell the grand story of America. Someone must, or her. We wanted to teach her and train her in the ways of whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance.” But our grandchildren will not know why they are free. As the Lord. We prayed that one day she would come to a our country has gone through many changes in its noted in Joshua 4, when Israel crossed the Jordan into saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. And it was the same history. Is America still the country whose God is the Canaan, they marked the area with stones heaped up into with her brother, Joel, and then Rachel. Lord? I don’t think so; and that frightens me when I a memorial. Joshua said, “When your children shall ask Rachel wasn’t even born when Terry and I started our think of the kind of country my grandchildren will live their fathers in time to come, saying, ‘What mean these first work in Globe, AZ; and she was just over a year old in. Will they find people still faithful to the Lord? Will stones?’ Then ye shall let your children know, saying, when we established the work here in Phoenix. It doesn’t they see men and women worshipping God, praying, Israel came over this Jordan on dry land. For the LORD seem possible that our baby has a baby of her own! But reading His Word, serving, and living by faith? your God dried up the waters of Jordan from before you, that fact got me to thinking about the kind of world our What a legacy we have inherited from previous until ye were passed over, as the LORD your God did to little granddaughter is going to grow up in. Little Adrianne American generations; but what kind of legacy are the Red sea, which he dried up from before us, until we has great Christian parents who serve and love the Lord, we passing on to our children? Luke 18:8b says, were gone over: that all the people of the earth might and they will have the same responsibility that we had, “Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he know the hand of the LORD, that it is mighty: that ye to raise her up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. find faith on the earth?” This generation must remain might fear the LORD your God for ever.” It seemed hard enough in the world Terry and I raised faithful to the truths of God’s Word, and we must live Why preach the gospel? Why Florida Baptist our children in, but how will this new generation raise them out in our daily lives if those who come behind College? Why long hours of preparation? Why travel; their children, amid such an evil and violent world that us are to have a chance of knowing Who God is, and why teach; why train young men and women to be is getting worse all the time? The very foundations we have a chance to experience the freedom we have in soldiers of the cross? Well, my friend, the answer is grew up with are constantly being challenged and shaken. Him. You and I have a great responsibility to remain simple. The greatest story of history is not of war and Will the freedoms we all experienced in our lifetime still faithful until the Lord returns – for our children, for our conquest. The greatest story of history is the vicarious be there for Adrianne? Will she be able to freely worship grandchildren, and for future generations! We must offering of Jesus Christ on the cross. But with the advent the Lord and attend church? Will she be allowed to read ensure the freedom to hear about and know the One of the post-modern era, the emphasis of some churches her Bible and pray? “Who hath made and preserved us a nation!” and Bible colleges has shifted. The cross is not the focus. Recently in my devotions I have been reading Feel-good music, warm and fuzzy “sharing,” coupled about the children of Israel, their bondage in Egypt and ñ ó with the latest technological presentations, has focused miraculous exit, and their escape from Pharaoh’s army. on what man wants rather than what man needs. We Attention pastor’s wives: They must have been frightened and a little hesitant to must, as modeled in the Lord’s Table in First Corinthians Any articles that you could send our way for this 11, remember the cross or we are destined to lose our go to a land they had never been. They had never before column would be greatly appreciated. enjoyed or experienced one ounce of freedom. This was purpose and our freedom. Please e-mail them to: as foreign to them as snow to the desert! Yet they had [email protected] ñ ó Jehovah there to guide them day and night; His very or by mail on disk to: presence was with them at all times. He led them into the P.O. Box 570, Woodinville, WA. 98072. Promised Land, and now they had freedom to worship A photo of yourself would also be nice. Him. He loved them so much and wanted them to see that Thanks for your participation! all which lay before them was entirely theirs! Yet, they

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