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National Fire Protection Association Report http://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPara... Public Input No. 23-NFPA 86-2016 [ Section No. 1.1 [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] This standard shall apply to Class A, Class B, Class C, and Class D ovens, dryers, and furnaces; thermal oxidizers; and any other heated enclosure systems and related equipment used for processing of materials and related equipment . Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input The term heated enclosures was too broad and could be interpreted to mean the building that the process equipment is located in. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Relationship Public Input No. 24-NFPA 86-2016 [Section No. A.1.1] Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Ted Jablkowski Name: Organization: Fives North American Combustion submitted on behalf of the NFPA 86 Intro Chapters Task Affilliation: Group Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Sun May 01 18:46:12 EDT 2016 Committee Statement Resolution: FR-28-NFPA 86-2016 Statement: The term heated enclosures was too broad and could be interpreted to mean the building that the process equipment is located in. NFPA 86 Public Inputs with Responses Report Page 1 of 230 1 of 222 1/26/2017 2:37 PM National Fire Protection Association Report http://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPara... Public Input No. 47-NFPA 86-2016 [ Section No. 1.4.1 ] 1.4.1 Unless otherwise specified, the provisions of this standard shall not apply to facilities, equipment, structures, or installations that existed or were approved for construction or installation prior to the effective date of the standard. Where specified, the provisions of this standard shall be retroactive. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input Nowhere in NFPA 86 does the standard specify when the provisions of the standard are retroactive. Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: Kevin Carlisle Organization: Industrial Heating Equipment Association Affilliation: Industrial Heating Equipment Association Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Fri Jun 03 14:39:39 EDT 2016 Committee Statement Resolution: FR-1-NFPA 86-2016 Statement: The language has been updated to remove redundancy. NFPA 86 Public Inputs with Responses Report Page 2 of 230 2 of 222 1/26/2017 2:37 PM National Fire Protection Association Report http://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPara... Public Input No. 48-NFPA 86-2016 [ Section No. 1.4.2 ] 1.4.2 In those cases where the authority having jurisdiction determines that the existing situation presents an unacceptable degree of risk, the authority having jurisdiction shall be permitted to apply retroactively any portions of this standard deemed appropriate. A.1.4.2 A modification that does not alter the logical, mechanical, electrical, or pneumatic function or system capacity are considered maintenance, and thus retroactivity is not intended to apply. It might not be technical feasible to upgrade all elements of the oven to most recent edition of NFPA. Such determination is made by the AHJ. In addition, “permit to use” is site specific. If the oven is moved do a different location that is a place within the same building/site, it would be the decision of the AHJ whether or not to apply retroactivity in 1.4, but in general, the same building would normally be the same site/location. When equipment is moved to a new site/location, a new permit would be required, thus, retroactivity in 1.4 would normally apply. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input We recommend that the committee provide some guidance to address the ambiguity of this requirement. Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: Kevin Carlisle Organization: Industrial Heating Equipment Association Affilliation: Industrial Heating Equipment Association Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Fri Jun 03 14:43:27 EDT 2016 Committee Statement Resolution: FR-24-NFPA 86-2016 Statement: This provides guidance to address the ambiguity of this requirement. NFPA 86 Public Inputs with Responses Report Page 3 of 230 3 of 222 1/26/2017 2:37 PM National Fire Protection Association Report http://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPara... Public Input No. 8-NFPA 86-2015 [ Chapter 2 ] Chapter 2 Referenced Publications 2.1 General. The documents or portions thereof listed in this chapter are referenced within this standard and shall be considered part of the requirements of this document. 2.2 NFPA Publications. National Fire Protection Association, 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471. NFPA 10, Standard for Portable Fire Extinguishers, 2013 edition. NFPA 11, Standard for Low-, Medium-, and High-Expansion Foam, 2010 edition. NFPA 12, Standard on Carbon Dioxide Extinguishing Systems, 2011 edition. NFPA 13, Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems, 2013 edition. NFPA 15, Standard for Water Spray Fixed Systems for Fire Protection, 2012 edition. NFPA 17, Standard for Dry Chemical Extinguishing Systems, 2013 edition. NFPA 17A, Standard for Wet Chemical Extinguishing Systems, 2013 edition. NFPA 25, Standard for the Inspection, Testing, and Maintenance of Water-Based Fire Protection Systems, 2014 edition. NFPA 30, Flammable and Combustible Liquids Code, 2015 edition. NFPA 31, Standard for the Installation of Oil-Burning Equipment, 2011 edition. NFPA 54, National Fuel Gas Code, 2015 edition. NFPA 55, Compressed Gases and Cryogenic Fluids Code, 2013 edition. NFPA 58, Liquefied Petroleum Gas Code, 2014 edition. NFPA 68, Standard on Explosion Protection by Deflagration Venting, 2013 edition. NFPA 70® , National Electrical Code®, 2014 edition. NFPA 79, Electrical Standard for Industrial Machinery, 2015 edition. NFPA 87, Recommended Practice for Fluid Heaters, 2015 edition. NFPA 91, Standard for Exhaust Systems for Air Conveying of Vapors, Gases, Mists, and Noncombustible Particulate Solids, 2010 edition. NFPA 750, Standard on Water Mist Fire Protection Systems, 2015 edition. 2.3 Other Publications. 2.3.1 ANSI Publications. American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43rd Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10036. ANSI Z50.1, Bakery Equipment — Safety Requirements, 2006. NFPA 86 Public Inputs with Responses Report Page 4 of 230 4 of 222 1/26/2017 2:37 PM National Fire Protection Association Report http://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPara... 2.3.2 API Publications. American Petroleum Institute, 1220 L Street, NW, Washington, DC 20005-4070. API STD 560, Fired Heaters for General Refinery Services, 2007 2016 . API RP 556, Instrumentation and Control Systems for Fired Heaters and Steam Generators, 1997 2011 . API RP 2001, Fire Protection in Refineries, 2005 2012 . 2.3.3 ASME Publications. American Society of Mechanical Engineers, Three ASME International , Two Park Avenue, New York, NY 10016-5990. Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code, 2007 2015 . ASME B31.1, Power Piping, 2007 2016 . ASME B31.3, Process Piping, 2008 2016 . 2.3.4 ASTM Publications. ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959. ASTM D 396 D396 , Standard Specifications for Fuel Oils, 2009 2015b . 2.3.5 CGA Publications. Compressed Gas Association, 4221 Walney Road, 5th Floor 14501 George Carter Way, Suite 103 , Chantilly, VA 20151-2923 1788 . CGA G-4.1, Cleaning Equipment for Oxygen Service, 2004 2009 . 2.3.6 IEC Publications. International Electrical Commission, 3, rue de Varembé, P.O. Box 131, CH - 1211, Geneva 20, Switzerland. IEC 61508, Functional Safety of Electrical/Electronic/Programmable Electronic Safety-Related Systems, 2010. 2.3.7 Other Publications. Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, 11th edition, Merriam-Webster, Inc., Springfield, MA, 2003. 2.4 References for Extracts in Mandatory Sections. NFPA 54, National Fuel Gas Code, 2015 edition. NFPA 69, Standard on Explosion Prevention Systems, 2014 edition. NFPA 70® , National Electrical Code®, 2014 edition. NFPA 85, Boiler and Combustion Systems Hazards Code,2011 edition. NFPA 99, Health Care Facilities Code, 2015 edition. NFPA 211, Standard for Chimneys, Fireplaces, Vents, and Solid Fuel–Burning Appliances, 2013 edition. NFPA 302, Fire Protection Standard for Pleasure and Commercial Motor Craft, 2015 edition. NFPA 820, Standard for Fire Protection in Wastewater Treatment and Collection Facilities, 2012 edition. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input NFPA 86 Public Inputs with Responses Report Page 5 of 230 5 of 222 1/26/2017 2:37 PM National Fire Protection Association Report http://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPara... Referenced current SDO names, addresses, standard names, numbers, and editions. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Relationship Public Input No. 9-NFPA 86-2015 [Chapter M] Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: Aaron Adamczyk Organization: [ Not Specified ] Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Tue Jul 21 16:03:08 EDT 2015 Committee Statement Resolution: FR-3-NFPA 86-2016 Statement: Referenced current SDO names, addresses, standard names, numbers, and editions. Staff is instructed to verify updated references. NFPA 86 Public Inputs with Responses Report Page 6 of 230 6 of 222 1/26/2017 2:37 PM National Fire Protection Association Report http://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPara... Public Input No. 71-NFPA 86-2016 [ New Section after 3.3 ] Definition of Chambers: (a) Heating Chamber, (b) Combustion Chamber, (c) Work Chamber A lot of the terms within the 3.3.33 definitions refer to combustion chambers and work chambers without defining the terms. This gets more muddled in 8.5.1.1 as well as 8.5.1.2(B) and 8.5.1.8(1) calls out 'heating chambers' without a full definition of the term. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input Definition of Chambers: (a) Heating Chamber, (b) Combustion Chamber, (c) Work Chamber A lot of the terms within the 3.3.33 definitions refer to combustion chambers and work chambers without defining the terms. This gets more muddled in 8.5.1.1 as well as 8.5.1.2(B) and 8.5.1.8(1) calls out 'heating chambers' without a full definition of the term.