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4568 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE MAY 17 the preliminary report of the Board of In­ By Mr. HENDRICKS-: the wide world. Return the men and vestigation and Research on the Relative H. R. 4815:. A bill for the relief of the Board· women who war for this peace from the Economy and Fitness c': the Carriers (H. Doc. of County Commissioners of Volusia County, far places of the earth so that they may No. 595); to the Committee on Interstate Fla,; to the Committee on Claims. and Foreign Commerce and· ordered to be By Mr. KILDAY.: take their places in completing the ulti­ printed. H. R. 4816. A bill for the relief of August mate purposes for which Thou · hast w. Dietz; to the Committee on Claims. created our Nation. · By Mr. MARTIN of Massachusetts: ~ Wilt Thou be pleased to hear not only REPORTS OF COMMITI'EES ON PUBLIC H. R. 4817. A bill for the relief of Wilfred the prayer which is spoken but the whis­ BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS T. Plant, Sr.; to t:q.e Committee on Claims. perings of the hearts of all who call upon Under clause 2 of rule XIII, reports Thy Name. For Jesus' sake. Amen. of committees were delivered to the PETITIONS, ETC. THE JOuRNAL Clerk for printing and reference . to the Under clause 1 of rule XXII, petitions proper calendar, as follows: On request of Mr. BARKLEY, and by and papers were laid on the Clerk's desk unanimous consent, the reading of the Mr. WE'ST: Committee on Ways and Means. and referred as follows: S. 1758. An act to amend section 451 of Journal of th.e proceedings of the cal­ the Tariff Act of 1930, and for other purposes; 5691. By Mr. GOODWIN: Resolution of the endar day Monday, May 15, 1944, was with-amendment' (Rept. No. 1446). ·Referred Board of Aldermen of the City of Everett dispensed with, and the Journal was ap­ to the Committee of the Whole House on the dated April 24, 1944, and subsequently passed proved. state of the Union. by the common council on May 1 and ap­ proved by the mayor on May 5, 1944, seeking MESSAGES FROM THE PRESIDENT the abolishment of the 15 percent Little Steel PUBLIC BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS Messages in writing from the President formula or a modification thereof in con­ of the were communicated • - Under clause 3 of rule XXII, · public formity with the true increased cost of liv­ ing; to the Committee on Banking and to the Senate by Mr. Miller, one of his bills and resolutions were introduced secretaries. · and severally referred as follows: Currency. 5692. By Mr. HALE: Petition of the Port­ CALL OF THE ROLL By Mr. MUNDT: land Central Labor Union, Portland, Maine, H. R. 4809. A bill to provide optional re­ petitioning Congtess to enact the necessary Mr. HilL. I suggest the absence of a tirement for Government employees who have measures to establish a Nation-wide broad­ quorum. attained the age of 55 years .and rendeyed ~t cast of its proceedings; to the Committee on The VICE PRESIDENT. The clerk will least 25 years of service; to the Committee on Rules. . call the roll. · the Civil Service. 5693. By the SPEAKER: Petition of Hil­ By Mr. MAY: dreth S. Wright and various other citizens The Chief Clerk called the roll, and the H. R. 4810. A bill to extend the provisions of New Salisbury, Ind., petitioning consid• following Senators answered to their of the Selective Training and Service Act of eration of their resolution with reference to names; 1940, as amended, to the Virgin Islands; to the enactment of House bill 2082; to the Bailey Gerry O'Da:o.iel the Committee on Military Affairs. Committee on the Judiciary. Ball Gillette O'Mahoney By Mr. MOT!': Bankhead G~een Overton H. R. 4811. A bill to supplement the Fed­ Barkley Gurney Radcliffe Bilbo Hatch Reed eral-Aid Road Act approved July 11, 1916, as Brewster Hawkes Reynolds amended and supplemented, to authorize ap­ Bridges Hayden Robertson propriations for the post-war construction SENATE Burton Hill Russell of greatly needed highways and bridges, to Bushfield Jackson Shipstead eliminate hazards at railroad grade crossings, WEDNESDAY, MA):" 17, 1944 Butler Johnson, Colo. Stewart to insure greater safety for traffic on the Byrd Kilgore Taft (Legislative day of Tuesday, May 9, 1944> Capper La Follette Thomas, Idaho public highways by providing additional Caraway Langer Tunnell facilities in connection therewith to be The Senate met at 12 o'clock meridian, Chandler Lucas Tydings available for the landing and take-off of air­ Chavez McCarran Vandenberg craft, to provid ~ for the immediate prepara­ on the expiration of the recess. Clark, Mo. McClellan Wagner tion of plans and acquisition of rights-of­ The Reverend Fred V. Poag, minister. Connally McFarland Walsh, Mass. Second Presbyterian Church, Alexandria, Cordon McKellar Walsh, N.J. way, to cushion the post-war conversion to Danaher Maloney Weeks peacetime economy, and for other purposes; Va., offered th_e following prayer: Davis Mead Wheeler to the Committee on Roads. Downey Millikin Wherry By Mr. KEFAUVER: 0 God Eternal, reverently we implore Eastland Moore White H. R. 4812. A bill to amend section 403 (i) Thee to transform this period of prayer Ellender Murdock Wilson (1) (B) of the Sixth Supplemental National so that it may not be the mere sounding Ferguson Nye · Defense Appropriation Act of 1942; to the of the tongue's many syllables, but Mr. HILL. I announce that the Sen­ Committe. on Ways and Means. rather that it may become the sincere ator from Washington [Mr. BoNE] .and By Mr. SHORT: gesture of hearts which need fellowship the Senator from 'Virginia [Mr. GLASs] H. J. Res. 283. Joint resolution to extend with their Heavenly Father. May we are absent from the Senate because of ·the time limit for immunity; to the Com­ not clutter this day with so much of our mittee on the Judiciary. illness. own speaking that we fail to hear Thy The Senator from Missouri · rMr. TRu­ voice. Lift the level of the thinking of MAN] and the Senator from Washington MEMORIALS these men until it has been shorn of [Mr. WALLGREN] are absent on ofilcial Under clause 3 of rule XXII, memorials sheer prejudices and opinion and be­ business for the Special Committee to were presented and referred as follows: comes based on disciplined reason and Investigate the National Defense Pro­ By the SPEAKER: Memorial of the Munic­ truth. gram. ipal Council of St. Thomas and St. John, V.I., Grant to these Thy servants, and those The Senator from Utah [Mr. THOMAS] memorializing the President and the Con­ whom they represent, a deep respect for has been appointed by the President of gress of the United States to continue the work of the War Food Administration, Office the sacred. May the goodness which the United States Q.S a delegate to at­ of Distribution, rendered to the people of the they seek be not 'alone that which can tend the International Labor Organiza­ Virgin Islands; to the Committee on Insular be touched but that also which is worthy . tion Conference in Philadelphia, and is Affairs. to be lived. Grant to them so large therefore necessarily absent. measure of integrity that they may be The Senator from Nevada [Mr. ScRUG­ PRIVATE BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS couFageous publicly because they · are HAM] and the Senatoi' from Georgia [Mr. courageous privately. May the delibera­ GEoRGE] are absent on official busfness. Under clause 1 of rule XXII, private tions of this· day be carried on with The Senators from Florida [Mr. AN­ bills and resolutions were introduced vision of such high ideals and great DREWS and Mr. PEPPER], the Senator and severally referred, as follows: cause that even the human mistakes and from Idaho [Mr. CLARK], the Senator By Mr. BARDEN: frailties may not impede Thy purpose for from Oklahoma [Mr. THOMAS], the Sen­ H. R. 4813. A bill for the rJ!lief of Carl Thy people. ator from Pennsylvania [Mr. GUFFEY], Lewis; to the Committee on Claims. By Mr. COLE of New York: This is our dearest petition: Give us the Senators from South Carolina [Mr. · H. R. 4814. A bill for the relief of Edgar D: peace; not simply a peace which is the SMITH and Mr. MAYBANK], and the Sen­ Sebring and Jay .Purple; to the Committee cessation of conflict but a peace which is ator from Montana [Mr. MURRAY] are on Claims. symbolic of justice and right throughout detained on public business. 1944 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE 4569 'Mr. WHERRY. The Senators from H. R. 4517. An act to remove restrictions on· mous consent, the second time, and re­ Vermont [Mr. AIKEN and Mr. AUSTIN], establishing post-office branches and sta-· ferred as follows: BROOKS], tions; and . the Senator from lllindis [Mr. H. R. 4793. An act to provide for emergency By Mr. BUSH FIELD: the Senator from Delaware ,[Mr. BucK], fiood-control work made necessary by recent S. 1920. A bill to authorize and direct the the Senator from Oregon [Mr. HOLMAN], floods, and for other purposes. Secretary of the Interior to issue to Corrine the Senator from West Virginia [Mr. Wright Standing Cloud, a patent in fee to REVER COMB], and the Senator from Indi­ ENROLLED BILL SIGNED certain land; to the Committee on Indian Affairs. ana [Mr. WILLis] are necessarily absent. The message also announced that the By Mr. CHANDLER: The Senator from New Hampshire Speaker had affixed his signature oo the S. 1921. A bi.ll to provide disability retire­ [Mr. TOBEY~ is absent be<:ause of illness. enrolled bill

• 4588 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE MAY 17 upon the penalties provided by the Mr. CLARK of Missouri. Does the include, although it was not limiting its Hatch Act. Under that act any person Senator think there is any justification definition to. that- employed in the Department of Agricul-­ on earth for us to discriminate against making or soliciting contributions to cam­ ture-because it is a branch of the exec­ farmers who happen to be members of paign funds of political parties or to any or­ utive departments-who engages in po­ some. of the local committees, as against ganization, association, corporation, or indi­ litical activity is automatically dis­ all -the other Government employees in vidual for the purpose of aiding or influenc­ charged; or should be, just as he would the country? ing the election or defeat of any candidate for be denied .his salary -in this instance. Mr. HATCH. Oh, the Senator knows political office. · The penalty is the same. that I think, and have long believed, they They knew very well what that meant. Again, even without the . Hatch Act all should be on exactly the same basis. Mr. President, the House found the sit­ and without this bill, when the distin­ Mr. CLARK of Missouri. I am sure the uation in the country to be such that it guished Vice President was the Secre­ Senator does. , even said that no part of these funds was tary of Agriculture, rules and regula­ Mr. HATCH. I do not think we can to be used to pay the salary of any full­ tions were adopted in that _particular lay down any rule which discriminates time employee of the Department of-­ Department, if I am not mistaken-and and still be fair or just to anyone. Agriculture or any of its branches, who they are in force and effect today-abso­ Mr. CLARK of Missouri. I was very engaged in any lobbying activity; the lutely prohibiting political activity by sure that was the opinion of the Senator House went that far. those employees and by members of the from New Mexico, but I wished to bring Mr. President, we have divided the A. A. A.; and, further, those rules and out from him an expression as to the question. We have confined ourselves regulations~ provided -for the discharge of pending amendment, which does dis­ solely at the present time to the first 10 persons engaging in the prohibited ac­ tinctly discriminate against any farmer or 12 lines of the House language. The tivities. who happens to be a member of the local Senate Committee on Appropriations has If .the thought behind the amendment brought in a committee amendment is to prohibit political activities by em­ committees. Mr. DANAHER. Mr. President, will which would strike out that House lan­ ployees of any branch of Government, guage. The proposed substitute now at I am in thorough accord and sympathy the Senator yield? Mr. HATCH. I yield. the desk does no more than say that any with that thought. But I am not will­ Mr. DANAHER. Mr. President­ such employee shall certify, at the time ing to go to the length of denying to he is paid, that he has not engaged in any citizen employed in any branch of Mr. CLARK of Missouri. Even a Con- necticut farmer. the political activity mentioned. There the Government the right to exercise is no question about the denial of the the right of suftrage. Mr. DANAHER. I shall be happy to continue to yield to the Senator from right to vote. We could even put on the Mr. RUSSELL. Or expression of back of the check, as Senators who are opinion. Missouri if he wishes to have me do so. Mr. President, let me now point out lawyers have seen time and time again Mr. HATCH. Or expression of opin­ · in their experience, a statement which, ion. that we are dealing primarily with a House bill on which the whole House of when the endorsement of the payee ap­ Mr. RUSSELL. Mr. President, if the pears, constitutes an agreement or cer­ Senator will yield to me, I may say there Representatives has acted. The House is no question that the amendment is of Representatives took account of the tification. being leveled solely at the Department situation. That was done by a House of Mr. HATCH. Mr. President, will the of Agriculture because today the Senate Representatives composed of 435 Mem­ Senator yield? has already passed an appropriation bill bers. The Members of the House of Rep­ Mr. DANAHER. I yield. for the Departments of State, Justice, resentatives acted with full knowledge of Mr. HATCH. The Senator says there and Commerce. That bill was passed the situation in their respective districts. is no question of the denial of the right by tfie Senate in just a few moments, In the House of Represen..tatives the ma­ . of a man to vote. Why does the Senator and no question was raised in reference jority finds its adherents among the ad­ say that? Does he think that voting is to it. No such amendment was offered ministration forces. The Speaker of the not a political activity? to that bill. House of Representatives is a member of Mr. DANAHER. We know that voting The amendment is offered to single the Democratic Party. Every committee is the exercise of the right of franchise. . out the employees of the Department of in the House of Representatives is or­ We know that political activity in con­ Agriculture, to indict and convict all of ganized under the leadership of the Dem­ nection with stimulating people to vote them, including county committeemen ocratic Party. in a given way, lawfully or unlawfully, working for a few days at $3 a day, and There is no question about what is in­ or soliciting campaign funds, or trying to deny them the right even to e:lq>ress volved in this amendment. Undoubtedly to bring about the defeat or the election their opinion in the local communities in some States there are Republicans who of a given candidate-all such things are or townships or counties in which they are members of the A. A. A. Undoubt­ political activity. Surely the Senator live. edly in some States there are Democrats from New Mexico knows that. Mr. DANAHER. Mr. President, will who are members Of the A. A. A. The Mr. HATCH. I know that those things the Senator yield? House of Representatives provided- are political activities; but I do not know Mr. HATCH. I yield. That no part of the funds appropriated or that voting is not a political activity. Mr. DANAHER. Of course, in the ap­ made available to the Agricultural Adjust­ That is the reason I asked the Senator propriation bill for the Departments of ment Agency or to any other bureau or agency the question. State, Justice, and Commerce, no such of the Department of Agriculture shall be Mr. DANAHER. It is not political ac­ used to pay the salary of any full time em­ tivity within the meaning of the language question arose, because in connection ployee who engages in any political activity with those departments no such notorious or lobbying activity. here proposed. condition exists. That is why we did Mr. HATCH.. Does the Senator think not offer to that bill such an amend­ The House of Representatives knew that is clear? ment. what it was 'talking about. We know Mr. DANAHER. I not only think so, Mr. HATCH. Mr. President, I wish to what it was talking about. The House of but I so assert. The legislative history draw the attention of Senators to the Representatives was not denying those back of an act of Congress is looked to provision on which they are about to vote. persons the right to vote. The House of by the courts when they seek to interpret If Senators wish to say they desire to Representatives knows very well that it. If there should ever be a question go to the length to which this amend­ Congress has no power to deny anyone about it, I am willing that any court may ment possibly does go, and probably does the right to vote. The House of Repre­ look at the RECORD of this very date and go, that is for them to say. But I think sentatives knows very well that this see what I have said. . we should know and understand the measure would not deny anyone the Mr. HATcH. The Senator also knows effect of the. legislation we vote to enact. right to vote. that it is the practice. of courts not to Mr. CLARK of Missouri. Mr. Presi­ The House of Representatives said, look at the debates on the ·floor of the dent, will the Senator yield? when it referred to political activities or Senate in ascertaining the CongressionaJ Mr. HATCH. I yield. lobbying activities! that it also meant t~ interpretation. ·· · 1944 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE 4589 Mr. DANAHER: The S:mator from activities· which are to be prohibited, the activity, and even the word "pernicious'' New Mexico knews very well that there words "including but ·not limited to" is dropped from this amendment. -is no question of the denial of the right have been inserted in order that the lan­ I wish to say further that when the to vote involved in this language. guage may not be · construed as having Senator points out the danger of enact­ Mr. HATCH. I have stated that the limited the application of tbese two un­ ing legislation involving the loss of the Senator had no such intention. What defined words. freedom of speech and the right to vote, I wish to know is, Are we doing some­ Mr. President, we are entering upon it is lightly brushed aside by some in thing we do not intend to do? dangerous ground when we attempt to this Chamber as though we could not pass Mr. DANAHER. Oh, no. deny to citizens of the United States such legislation. It is easy to see that no Mr. LA FOLLETTE. Mr. President, no their inherent right to freedom of speech act of Congress can limit the right of a Member of the Senate is more anxious and freedom of expression. It is my in­ citizen to speak freely. That right is than I to see effective legislation adopted terpretation of this language that if guaranteed by the Constitution. That is to prevent pernicious political activity any employee of the Department of Agri­ true. However, there are decisions of on the part of Government employees, culture were to muke a statement con­ our courts whiCh say that while we recog­ or any other citizens of this Republic, cerning any candidate. for office, he nize constitutional limitations this and and to prevent any abuse of power on the would be subject to the charge that lie similar legislation does not at all restrict part of any employee of the Government. has engaged in political activity, and the right of the individual to speak as he I supported the Hatch Act. I agree woulrl be liable to be discharged from his may choose to speak. No one can pre­ with the Senator from New Mexico that position. In this day and age is . the vent him. However, we can say to him, it was wise legislation. I 'think it has Government of the United States to "You cannot work for the Federal Gov­ had a very salutary effect in restraining adopt a provision which would deny to ernment if you engage in such activities." the activities which it was designed to citizens employe j in one of the branches Mr. LA FOLLETTE. That is the point. prohibit. But let us be frank. We are of the Federal Government the right to Mr. HATCH. The limitation is on the dealing here with precious rights of freedom of expression? If we have right of persons who work for the Fed­ citizenship. We should not enact any reached that stage, Mr. {'resident, we eral Government, and thereby the Con­ legislation which would impinge upon have come to a pretty pass. stitution is upheld even in those extreme the rights of citizens of this country, It seems to me that this is a proposal cases. whether they be employees of the Gov.: to burn down the barn l.n order to get Mr. LA FOLLETI'E. It is a condition ernment or not. rid of a few rats. It is proposed to deny of employment. The Senator from Connecticut is not to thousands of upstanding American Mr. HATCH. Yes. the author of the language. He 9,sserts citizens employed by the Department of Mr. LA FOLLETTE. And not an ab­ that it is the language adopted by the Agriculture under penalty of loss of their solute abridgment of the right per se. House. It is no comfort to me to nave employment, rights which are guaran­ Nevertheless, the effect will be the same him state that the language does not on teed ta them under the Constitution of on the individual. its face 'deny to a citizen employed by the the United States. Mr. HATCH. The Senator is abso­ Department of Agriculture the right to If this amendment were adopted, I lutely correct. vote. think very effective use could be made of Mr. LA FOLLETTE. My only point is So far as I can ascertain, Mr. Presi­ it by our enemies in exposing our hypoc­ that the rights and privileges of citizens dent, there was little consideration given risy in advocating the fundamental in a democracy are so precious, and have to this provision in the House of Repre-· principles of democracy and being will­ been won only after such great sacrifices, sentatives. There was very little testi­ ing to defend them on the battlefield, we should not enter into the delicate field mony before the House committee on the while at the same time, because it is of legislating with a meat ax. We should subject; and yet we are now being urged alleged tha.t some employees have been operate on this political problem with a to accept language adopted by the House guilty of some political activity, we deny scalpel and with full knowledge of what of Representatives under those circum­ to a large group of citizens rights guar­ we are doing. stances. I think it could clearly be con­ anteed to them by the Constitution of Mr. President, I believe the Hatch Act strued to deny to employees of the De­ the United States. If certain employees was carefully framed. I felt that I could partment of Agriculture not on1y the have been guilty of pernicious political support it because it defined the type of right to express their opinions concern­ activities, let them be prosecuted under activity to be prohibited. It retained the ing candidates or issues in campaigns, the Hatch Act. Let an investigation be fundamental rights of the citizen. I as­ but also the right to vote; for it is made, and let the persons charged with sert that a reading of the language which obvious that the language does not con­ such activities have an opportunity to fs here proposed will show that it is not tain any definition of the term "political defend themselves. If it be found that drawn with the care with which the activity." The particularized activities they have indulged in any such activity Hatch Act was framed. There is no contain a statement which is designed to I shall join with the Senator from Con­ defin'ition of terms. There is no deline­ prevent them from being taken as a limi­ necticut, or with any other Senator, in ation of the specific activities to be pro­ tation upon those two words. The lan­ seeing that effective action is taken to hibited as ·a condition of employment. guage is as follows: separate them from the pay rolls, or to As a matter of fact, the framers of this see that they are prosecuted under the proposal were careful to provide that it Provided further. That no part of the funds .. appropriated or made available to the Agri­ Hatch Act. should not be limited to . the activities cultural Adjustment Agency or to any other · I again assert, Mr. President, that we which are specified. bureau or agency of the Department of Agri­ are treading upon dangerous ground. Mr. President, I assert that it would culture shall be used to pay the salary of We are moving in the direction of deny­ be shocking at this time for the Senate any full-time employee who engages In any ing to citizens at this time, when they of the United States to go on record in political activity or lobbying activity (in­ are making tremendous sacrifices in both favor of denying to citizens of this coun­ cluding but not limited to making or solicit­ ·blood and treasure in order to defend try the right to exercise their legitimate ing contributions to campaign funds of political parties or to any organization, as­ the country, the right of freedom of ex­ political rights. I repeat that it would sociation, corporation, or Individual for the pression, or, perhaps, even under a tech­ be shocking. It could be utilized as a purpose of aiding or influencing the election nical interpretation of this language, charge that we were hypocritical in our or defeat of any candidate for political office; the rigfit to vote. espousal of those precious rights and lib­ distribution of, or solicitation of subscrip­ Mr. HATCH. Mr. President, will the erties. So I hope, Mr. President, that tions to, or contributions for the distribu­ Senator yield? the Senate will not adopt this ill-consid-· tion of publications and ·other literature Mr. LA FOLLETTE. I yield. ered proposal. If there are abuses such designed to influence or aid in the election or defeat of any candidate for public office. Mr. HATCH. The Senator referred to as the Senator from Nebraska has out­ bills relating to pernicious activities. I lined, and such as have been presented · It is clear, Mr. President, that there is think he will find that the word "perni­ in an ex parte manner, I will join with no definition of the warps "political ac­ cious" appears in all legislation, and in him in doing all in my power to secure tivity" contained in this amendment. It the civil-service rules forbidding political an investigation, or a prosecution of is further clear that in delineating the activities. It all relates to pernicious those involved. 4590 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE MAY 17 However, Mr. President, let us not, in was not had, but that does not change the fundamental rights of employees of a moment of haste, at a time when we the situation. I wish to protect the the Department of Agriculture that the · have not given proper consideration to farmers against being coerced into doing Senator from Connecticut did not want. this important question, rush in ·and do things which they do not wish to do. to sponsor it. something which may make us ashamed Mr. LA FOLLETTE. Mr. President, as Mr. BARKLEY. Mr. Pre~ident, I after we have had full opportunity to I said before, I will go as far as the Sen­ merely wish to say a word or two about contemplate the effect of our actions. ator from Nebraska, ·if the evidence is the pending amendment. The Senator Mr. HATCH. Mr. President, will the adduced that such practices are being in­ from Nebraska has said that this amend­ Senator yield for only a moment? dulged in, to take whatever action may be ment was put in the bill by the House, Mr. LA FOLLETTE. I yield. necessary to bring them to an end. But and therefore by analogy we ought to Mr. HATCH. The Senator has spoken . I wish to point out that the amendment ke.ep it in the bill. The S.enate is not of investigations. Unfortunately I was under consideration does not affect either bound by anything the Hcuse does in a not present, and I did .aot hear what the directly or indirectly the cases about bill. Time after time the Senate has re­ Senator from Nebraska said on that sub­ which the Senator is talking; they are jected and will no doubt continue to re­ ject. However, judging from some of the not touched by this amendment, and no ject, language put int0 a bill by the remarks which have been made, there effort is made by it to reach them. I say, House of Representatives. That is what must have been an element of coercion Mr. President, once more that this is a we are here for; we are supposed to re­ on the part of persons in authority, about field into which the Congress should tread consider what has· been done by the whom the Senator was complaining. If very cautiously and only after the most House of Representatives and the House that be true, no congressional investiga­ careful consideration. It is a field into has the same right to deal with amend­ tion is needed. All that need be done is which we have no right to enter until ments or original legislation proposed by to go to the district attorney in the par­ we have carefully considered the conse­ the Senate. I think the Committee on ticular district in which the act is al­ quences insofar as the citizens to be af­ Appropriations wisely struck out this leged to have occurred, because a viola­ fected are concerned. I certainly hope whole provision. tion of the provisions of the Hatch Act that the amendment will be rejected. The Senator from Connecticut, with are criminal offenses punishable by in­ Mr. GREEN. Mr. President-- his usual skill, has drawn a substitute dictment and prosecution in the courts of The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the which requires any man who draws his the land. Senator from Wisconsin yield to the Sen­ salary either once a month or twice a Mr. LA FOLLETTE. The charges in ator from Rhode Island? month to makE a certificate and sign it · connection with the correspondence re­ Mr. LA FOLLETTE. I yi.eld. that be has not done any of the things ferred to by the Senator from Nebraska Mr. GREEN. In connection with the prohibited by this language. were, as I understand, twofold: First, argument made by the able Senator from Mr. RUSSELL. Mr. President, will the · the exercise of coercion on the part of Wisconsin, with which I am cordially in Senator yield? persons in the triple A in utilizing their accord, as a member of the committee Mr. BARKLEY . . I yield. ability to obtain gasoline for farmers in which reported the Hatch Act with the Mr. RUSSELL. I should like to ask order to induce them to join some pro­ recommendation for the elimination of the Senator how long it will be necessary gram. Secondly, there was the charge this language, I should like 'to call the to keep the certificates. They would that someone connected with the Farm Senator's attention to one further illus­ have to be kept until after the statute Security Administration had written a tration of how much further the provi­ of limitations had run out and some letter in which he urged the solicitation sion proposed goes than the existing law. . charge had been brought for violation of money to raise a campaign fund with It provides that no one shall be paid any of the act. I presume there would be which to carry on political activities salary if he engages in certain political millions of certificates all the way down against the senior Senator from Ne­ activities. As the able Senator has point­ to the lowest committeeman in the braska, and some other persons whom I ed out, numerous activities are enumer­ United States. assume to be Republicans in the State of ated, but it is expressly stated that the ·Mr. BARKLEY. Of course, the Sena­ -Nebraska. political activities may include others tor's question emphasizes the ridiculous Mr. WHERRY. Mr. President, will than those enumerated. It particularly situation in which the Senate finds itself. the Senator yield? · forbids such employees to engage in ac­ If it adopts this amendment, before any Mr. LA FOLLETTE. I yield. tivities designed to influence the action employee could draw his pay he would Mr. WHERRY. I should like to invite of Congress with respect to appropria­ be required to sign a certificate that he the attention of the· distinguished Sen­ tions or legislation of any kind. Why iS had not engaged in any political activi­ ator from Wisconsin to the fact that it that not in direct conflict with the first ties. was not only the administration of the amendment of the Federal Constitution, The Senator from Connecticut, who is triple A and its instructions to see to it which provides that Congress shall make a good lawyer, says all the employee that farmers joined the triple A program no law abridging the right of the people would need to do would be to sign his in order to obtain gasoline, but in the to petition the Government for a redress name on the back of his check and it past 6 months representatives of the of grievances? would be assumed that that was a com­ triple A have made a circuit in Nebraska Mr. LA FOLLETTE. Mr. President, pliance with the law. He would never and required farmers to take member­ the Senator from Connecticut has offered have a chance to sign his name on the · ship in the triple A organization. They an amendment in lieu of the committee bacK: of the check, until he made the cer­ have also suggested in letters which have amendment. The Senator having called tificate that he had not done any of these come to me that the farmers take up with attention, however, to the further dras­ things, because he would not get a check their Senators and Representatives the tic and sweeping effect of the second por­ to endorse until he had given such a cer­ matter of supporting the consumers sub­ tion of the House language reminds· me tificate. sidy. Such activities have been con­ that I wished to say when I rose to my The Senator from Nebraska com­ ducted on the time of the men in the feet, but forgot to say, that all the as­ plained awhile ago of many of the coun­ Department of Agriculture, and on De­ surances given by the Senator from Con­ ty committees going around and trying partment of Agricultural stationery. necticut as to the careful manner in to coerce farmers to join the program or I wish to suggest to the distinguished which this language had been drawn ap­ else denying them gasoline. That is the Senator from Wisconsin that I appre­ ply only from line 11 to line 24, which first I ever heard of anything like that. ciate the defense he has made against he has now with a slight modification They must have a peculiar brand of taking away rights of people to vote. I sponsored himself. The Senator from county committees in Nebraska. Cer­ do not wish to have the franchise of the Connecticut rejects the remaind~r of the tainly no county committeemen chosen people taken away. This matter was amendment which was adopted by the by the farmers in my State have ever thoroughly considered in the House of same committee and by the House of undertaken to coerce anybody to join a Representatives. As in the case of hear­ Representatives, which is the language program, and the committeemen do not ings held by committees upon which I r-eferred to by the Senator from Rhode have anything to do with the rationing have served with the distinguished Sen­ Island, which I think every Senator will of gasoline, anyway. There are entirely ator from New Mexico, it is possible that admit is so palpably unconstitutional different boards, working without com­ a full attendance of committee members and goes so far in denying and abridging pensation all over the United States that 1944 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE 4591 decide how much gasoline a man may of thing. I do not know to what extent Johnson, Colo. Murdock Tunnell Kilgore - Nye Tydings obtain. any citizen. who has such a complaint La Follette O'Daniel Vandenberg In order to carry out that sort of a has been before a Federal grand jury and Langer Overton Wagner program the county committee, under asked to be heard. Certainly citizens Lucas Radcliffe Walsh, Mass. McCarran Reed Walsh, N.J. the triple A selected by the farmers, have that right, and no one can deny McClellan Robertson Weeks would have to go to the members of the them that right. So far as the Hatch Act McFarland Russell Wheeler board that disposes of gasoline and in­ is concerned, the remedy does not alto­ McKellar Shipstead Wherry gether lie with the head of a department. Maloney Stewart White timidate them and induce them to in­ Millikin Taft Wilson timidate the farmers who come in and The criminal courts are open to anyone Moore Thomas, Idaho tell them that unless they joined the who has a case. program they could not get any gasoline. If the pending amendment should be The PRESIDING OFFICER. Sixty­ But, even so, the language of the amend­ agreed to, there is not an employee "of five Senators have answered to their ment offered by the Senator from Con­ the Department of Agriculture who names. A quorum is present. necticut does not deal with that sort of lives in Maryland or in Virginia, who The question is on agreeing to the thing. It cannot be claimed that that is has any number of children eligible for modified amendment of the Senator from a political activity. It may be an over­ attendance in the common schools of Connecticut [Mr. DANAHER] to the first enthusiastic agricultural activity, but those States, who has a next-door neigh­ branch of the committee amendment on certainly it cannot be described as a bor who is a candidate for school trustee, page 66, line 11. The yeas and nays have political activity. to form the board of education for a been ordered, and the clerk will call the Mr. WHERRY. Mr. President, will the county which would employ teachers roll. Senator yield? to teach the children of such employee The legislative clerk proceeded to call Mr. BARKLEY. I yield. of the Department of Agriculture, who the roll. Mr. WHERRY. The facts are that in could, without violating the law, speak Mr. BRIDGES

4602 CONGRESSIONAL. RECORD-SENATE MAY 17 Leaders of the national farm. organizations, under lend-lease. They are not satisfied plication of _payments, the department with suspecting that the.New Deal agencies were about the action of our Government in wpich any such waive:t: is filed shall notify hiding something in their farm-machinery building dams for irrigation purposes in· _ the Veterans' Administration of the · receipt production figures, Thursday sent Edward J. of such .waiver, the amount waived, and the O'Neal; American Farm Bureau Federation many sections of the world where, after effective date of the reduction in retired president, to call on his friend, Administrator the war, farmers will raise agricultural pay. Jones, to ."get the low down." )roducts which will be in competition with the products raised by our own farmers. Mr. JOHNSON of Colorado. I move DISHING OUT GLAMORIZED REPORTS th&.t the Senate concur in the House According to the Washington Farm Report­ Road machinery, paid for by our tax­ er, a publication of the National Grange writ­ payers, has been sent and is being sent amendment. ten by Agricultural Service Associates, a group to the four corners of the globe, to build Mr. WHITE.. Mr. President,. will the of writers that work closely with-leaders of all roads. Some of the roads so built ar,e Senator indicatE> what the House amend­ the major farm organizations, this is what so wide that four automobiles can travel ment is? took place: . abreast. All that is being done to de­ Mr. JOHNSON of Colorado. Mr. "Couid it be that the Farm Machinery Divi­ velop . agricultural areas where farmers President, the hill provides that a per­ sion of W. P. B. wasn't going to fulfill its pro­ gram?" _O'Neal demanded of Jones. - "Could · of foreign lands will raise products which son who is eligible to receive retirement it be that it was dishing out glamorized re­ will be in competition with those raised pay or pension may designate whether ports?" by our own farmers. he wishes the payment credited to It not only could be, but was, said Jones. Once more, Mr. President, in behalf pensions or to retirement pay. He does He called in one of. his specialists to ,prove i.t . . of the farmers of our country, I protest : not receive both. He must take the one Saying that he would do everything_ in h ~ s against these actions on the part of the or the other, but he is given the oppor­ power to "needle'' W. P. B. into action, Jones administration. I repeat that they were tunity of choice. flatly refused O'Neal's demands that he do something about it immediately. never contemplated when the original Mr. WHITE. Is that all that is in­ He let it be known that the White House Lend-Lease Act was passed. They were volved in the Senator's motion to con­ had strictly forbidden any interagency squab- · not contemplated when lend-lease was re­ cur in the House amendment? bles between now and November 7, and that newed, or when appropriations were made Mr. JOHNSON of Colorado. That .is it wasn't going to be the one to disobey White for additional funds for lend-lease. all . . House orders. Once more, on behalf of the farmers The PRESIDING OFFICER. The O'Neal, according to the Farm Reporter, of ou~ country, I protest .these actions _ question is on agreeing to the· motion came away from-W. F. A. bo111ng. He called an on the part of the administration, and immediate conference of the uther farm-or- · of the Senator from Colorado. ganization leaders: · . repeat that they were never contem­ The motion was· agreed to. "A joint statement blasting the whole rot- . plated when the original Lend-Lease.Act . . . . . ¥ESSAGE FROM THE; HOt!SE-ENROL~ED ten mess wide open to the public view should was passed; they were not contemplated be issued sooner than immediately," O'Neal when lend-lease was ren~wed, nor when Blf'LS reportedly told .the farm men. appropriations have b.een made for addi- A message from the House of Repre­ "Not so fast," retorted the other_ leaders. ·tional funds for len.d-lease. . , sentatives by_Mr. Maurer: one of its read­ "Do~ald Nelson has been about the only big This policy, if continued, will _wreck ing clerks, announced that the Speaker shot in the administration high command to agriculture in the United St_ates. I know give the farmers a break. Now, let's have a · had affixed his signature to the-following cozy chat with Mr. Nelson before we blow the of no way to stop it, in v~ew of the over­ enrolled bills: wind." . whelming vote given for the extension of . H. R. 3176. An act to regulate t:Qe furnish­ And that's what happened. They visited lend-lease last week without any steps ing of artificial limbs or other appliances to Nelson's ctfice Friday. According to their being taken to limit the amount of lend­ retired officers and enlisted men of the Army, reports, he didn't beat about the bm.h. He lease to war materials; but on behalf of Navy, Marine Corps, or Coast Guard, and to heard the farm men describe the situation the farmers, I protest, and protest, and . certain civilian employees of the military and as they knew it. He li.stened to O'Neal ac-· protest again against this Government naval forces of the Regul~r Establishment; cuse theW. P. B. Farm Machinery Division of giving away farm machinery to our com­ H. R. 3356. An act to increase the service­ falsifying production ~gures by reporting - petitors under the guise of lend-lease at connected disability rates of compensation or output i;n dollar value rather than in num­ pension payable to veterans of World War No. bers of machine units. You can't raise corn · the v.ery time when o1,ir farmers are. 1 and World War No. 2 and veterans entitled with dollar signs, O'Neal reportedly shouted.- asked to produce the greatest crop in to wartime rates based on service on or after MACHINERY TRUST BLAMED history and find they have little but old, September 16, 1940, for service-connected dis­ The farm leaders claimed the Big Eight worn-out machinery to do it with, and abilities, and to increase the rates for widows among 'the manUfacturers of farm machin­ when the Selective Service System re­ and children' under Public Law 484 .. seventy­ ery, referred to by W. F. A. specialists in · fuses to defer blacksmiths' assistants to third Congress, as amended, and to include their conversations as the Machinery Trust, help repair th_e worn-out machinery widows and children of World War No.2 vet­ are actually responsible for the failure of the that our farmers so badly need. era;ns for benefits under the latter act; and farm-machinery industry to meet the an­ H. R. 3377. An act to increase the rate of nounced production goals. PENSIONS AND COMPENSATIONS TO CER· pension for World War veterans from $40 to The farm men claim that last fall, when TAIN PERSONS RECEIVING RETIRED $50 per month, to $60 per month in certain farm-machinery quotas were being estab­ PAY specified cases, and for other purposes. lished, the big manufacturers, in an attempt · The PRESIDING OFFICER