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Fourth Session - Thirty-Fifth Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS (HANSARD) 41 Elizabeth II Publishedunder the authorityof TheHonourable Denis C. Rocan Speaker VOL. XLII No. 35 -10 a.m., FRIDAY, MARCH 26,1993 MG-8048 ISSN 0542-5492 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Thlrty-RfthLegislature Members, Constituencies and PoliticalAffiliation NAME CONSTITUENCY PARTY. ALCOCK, Reg Osborne Liberal ASHTON, Steve Thompson NDP BARRETT, Becky Wellington NDP CARSTAIRS, Sharon River Heights Liberal CERILLI, Marianne Radisson NDP CHEEMA, Guizar TheMaples Liberal CHOMIAK, Dave Kildonan NDP CUMMINGS, Glen, Hon. Ste. Rose PC DACQUAY, Louise Seine River PC DERKACH, Leonard, Hon. Roblin-Russell PC DEWAR, Gregory Selkirk NDP DOER, Gary Concordia NDP DOWNEY, James, Hon. Arthur-Virden PC DRIEDGER, Albert, Hon. Steinbach PC DUCHARME, Gerry, Hon. Riel PC EDWARDS, Paul St. James Liberal ENNS, Harry, Hon. Lakeside PC ERNST, Jim, Hon. Charleswood PC EVANS, Ciif Interlake NDP EVANS, Leonard S. Brandon East NDP FILMON, Gary, Hon. Tuxedo PC FINDLAY, Glen, Hon. Springfield PC FRIESEN, Jean Wolseley NDP GAUDRY, Neil St. Boniface Liberal GIUESHAMMER, Harold, Hon. Minnedosa PC GRAY, Avis Crescentwood Liberal HELWER, Edward R. Gimli PC HICKES, George Point Douglas NDP LAMOUREUX, Kevin Inkster Liberal LATHLIN, Oscar The Pas NDP LAURENDEAU,Marcel St. Norbert PC MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood NDP MANNESS, Clayton, Hon. Morris PC MARTINDALE, Doug Burrows NDP McALPINE, Gerry SturgeonCreek PC McCRAE, James, Hon. BrandonWest PC MciNTOSH, Linda, Hon. Assiniboia PC MITCHELSON, Bonnie, Hon. River East PC NEUFELD, Harold Rossmere PC ORCHARD, Donald, Hon. �mbina PC PALLISTER, Brian PortageIa Prairie PC PENNER, Jack Emerson PC PLOHMAN, John Dauphin NDP PRAZNIK, Darren, Hon. Lac du Bonnet PC REID, Daryl Transcona NDP REIMER, Jack Niakwa PC RENDER, Shirley St. Vital PC ROCAN, Denis, Hon. Gladstone PC ROSE, Bob Turtle Mountain PC SANTOS, Conrad Broadway NDP STEFANSON, Eric, Hon. Kirkfield Park PC STORIE, Jerry Rin Ron NDP SVEINSON, Ben La Verendrye PC VODREY, Rosemary, Hon. FortGarry PC WASYLYCIA-LEIS, Judy St. Johns NDP WOWCHUK, Rosann Swan River NDP Vacant Rupertsland 1390 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Friday, March 26, 1993 The House met at 10 a.m. with the privileges and the practices of the House and complies with the rules. Is it the will of the PRAYERS House to have the petition read? Mr. Clerk {William Remnant): The petition of the ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS undersigned citizens of the province of Manitoba humbly sheweth that: PRESENTING PETITIONS WHEREAS the provincial government has Mr. Guizar Cheema (The Maples): Mr. Speaker, I without notice or legal approval allowed wide-open beg to present the petition of Bob Kurtz,Linda Kurtz, Sunday shopping; and Sandy Kurtzand others requesting the government WHEREAS the provincial government has not of Manitoba consider taking the necessary steps to consulted Manitobans before implementing reform the Pharmacare system to maintain its wide-open Sunday shopping; and comprehensive and universal nature and to implement the use of a health smartcard. WHEREAS the provincial government has not *** held public hearings on wide-open Sunday shopping; Ms. Rosann Wowchuk {Swan River): Mr. WHEREFORE your petitioners humbly pray that Speaker, I beg to present the petition of Robert R. the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba may be Smith, Lee V. Campbell, Eileen Jones and others pleased to request the Minister of Labour to requesting the Minister of Labour consider holding consider holding public hearings on wide-open public hearings on wide-open Sunday shopping Sunday shopping throughout Manitoba before throughout Manitoba before March 31, 1993, and March 31, 1993; requesting the Attorney General uphold the current law concerning Sunday shopping until public BE IT FURTHER resolved that the Legislative hearings are held and the Legislature approves Assembly be pleased to request the Attorney changes to the law. General to uphold the current Jaw concerning Sunday shopping until public hearings are held and *** the Legislature approves changes to the Jaw. Ms. Becky Barrett {Wellington): Mr. Speaker, I beg to present the petition of John A. Laplume, PRESENTING REPORTS BY Lawrence Pinsky, B. Langner-Pennell and others STANDING AND SPECIAL COMMITTEES requesting the Minister of Justice consider Mrs. Louise Dacquay {Chairperson of adequate funding for the Great Library so that it can Committees): Mr. Speaker, the Committee of maintain its current level of services, hours of Ways and Means has considered a certain operation and preserve its current collection of resolution, directs me to report progress and asks materials. leave to sit again. *** I move, seconded by the honourable member for Mr. George Hlckes {Point Douglas): I beg to La Verendrye (Mr. Sveinson), that the report of the present the petition of Thomas Prince, Cyril Raven, committee be received. Thomas Webb and others requesting the Family Motion agreed to. Services minister reconsider rastoring funding for the friendship centres of Manitoba. TABLING OF REPORTS Hon. Bonnie Mitchelson {Minister responsible READING AND RECEIVING PETITIONS for the Status of Women): Mr. Speaker, it is my Mr. Speaker: I have reviewed the petition of the pleasure to table the Annual Report for 1991-92 for honorable member (Ms. Wowchuk). It complies the Women's Directorate. 1391 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA March 26, 1993 * (1005) ORAL QUESTION PERIOD INTRODUCTION OF BILLS Sunday Shopping Aprll 18 Polley Bill 22-The Public Sector Reduced Work Week and Compensation ManagementAct Mr. Gary Doer {Leader of the Opposition): Mr. Speaker, my question is to the RrstMinister. Hon. Clayton Manness (Minister of Finance): Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Minister of Yesterday, we asked the government what their Environment (Mr. Cummings), that Bill 22, The policy was on theissue of Sundayshopping. Public Sector Reduced Work Week and The government had a press conference on Compensation Management Act (Loi sur Ia November 20 to announcewhat theywere going to reduction de Ia semaine de travail et Ia gestion des do on Sunday shopping, a week before this House salaires dans le secteur public), be introduced and sat. The hypocrites across the way should be that the same be now received andread a first time. straightwith the people of Manitoba. The honourable Administrator, having been The governmentpromised in this Chamber, to the advised of the contentsof this bill,recommends it to people of Manitoba, public hearings that would the House. I would like to table themessage. happen quickly, on March 2 in this House. They of course had no intention of having those public Motionagreed to. hearings, they had no intention of the people of ** * Manitobabeing involved in theso-called trial period. Hon. Eric Stefanson {Ministerof Industry,Trade I wouldlike to ask the Premier: In light of the fact and Tourism): Mr. Speaker, I seek leave of the thatthe bill thatis presentlybefore thisHouse, which House to introduce Bill 23, The Retail Businesses was passed to second reading, expires in the early Holiday Closing Amendment, Employment April period, what is thegovernment policy in terms Standards Amendment and Payment of Wages of unlimited number of employees being able to Amendment Act. work on Sunday for the Sunday, April 18, which is thefirst Sunday after Easter Sunday,which falls the Mr. Speaker: Does the honourable Minister of week before? What is the policyof the government Industry,Trade and Tourism have leave to introduce dealing with that Sunday? Bi11 23? * (1010) An Honourable Member: No. Hon. Gary Fllmon {Premier): Mr. Speaker, I find Mr. Speaker: No, leave is denied. it interesting that the member opposite would not Mr. Doug Martindale(Deputy Opposition House allow introduction of a bill with respect to Sunday Leader): Mr. Speaker, since this government has shopping yesterdayin the House and todayhe has misledus andthe public on public hearings on this all these questions about it. I also find it interesting biii- that the member opposite, who has always been one who has talkedabout democratic process, does Mr. Speaker: Order, please. We had already not acknowledge that there are many sides to this determined that there was no leave. issue and many concerns out there in the community. Introduction of Guests That is why a trial proposal was put forward, to Mr. Speaker: Prior to Oral Questions, may I direct give opportunity for those who wanted to see the attention ofhonourable members to the gallery, Sunday shopping in Manitoba and tryand assess where we have with us this morningfrom the Grant the effectsof it and how it would work. Park High School thirty Grade 9 studentsunder the We have never as a governmenttried to hidethe direction of Ed Lenzmann. This schoolis locatedin fact that even withinour caucusthere are variances the constituency of the honourable member for of opinion. The Liberal Party has never tried to be Crescentwood (Ms. Gray). dishonest about that. They have said very On behalfof all honourable members, I would like straightforwardly, theyhave diff erent views on it. It to welcome you herethis morning. is only the New Democrats who every morning get March 26, 1993 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 1392 wound up by the leaders of the unions of this issues that are out there on Sunday shopping, and province, who are given their marching orders, who that will be the answer that this government puts stand out there like automatons and say, yes, forward. Bernie, yes, Bernie, who have a closed mind on this The member opposite can vote against it, as I am issue. sure he will vote against anything this government We have an open mind on this issue and we are does, in any case, in his blind ideology. That is willing to listen to Manitobans. We are willing to okay. We will let him go against it, but we will put take into consideration the views and the concerns forward what we believe is appropriate legislation to of all Manitobans and to try and come up with a address the concerns of the people of Manitoba proposal that is good for Manitoba.