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Future Communion with Whitley Strieber Video Transcript - New Thinking Allowed with Jeffrey Mishlove ​ ​ Future Communion with Whitley Strieber Video Transcript - New Thinking Allowed with Jeffrey Mishlove ​ ​ www.newthinkingallowed.org Recorded on April 18, 2020 Published to YouTube on May 21, 2020 Copyright © 2020, New Thinking Allowed Foundation (00:28) JM: Hello and welcome, I'm Jeffrey Mishlove. My guest today is Whitley ​ ​ Strieber, a man who has written probably more than a dozen books, all associated with his ostensible contact with beings whom he refers to as the Visitors. I’m talking about Communion, Transformation, Breakthrough, Beyond Communion, The Secret ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ School, The Key, Hybrids, and most recently, A New World. In today’s interview ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ we’re going to explore the potential of future communication between these visitors and the human race. Once again, this is an internet interview. Now, I’ll switch over to the internet video. (01:17) JM: Welcome, Whitley. It's a pleasure to be with you once again. ​ ​ (01:20) WS: Well, it's good to be back, Jeffrey. ​ ​ (01:23) JM: It’s been, I guess, over a year since we’ve spoken. I hope you’re safe and well. ​ ​ (01:29) WS: Well, I am. I’m bored, isolated. I live, like everybody does right now, through a screen. ​ ​ (01:39) JM: I’ve been looking over your body of work. I see that you’ve written, ​ ​ it must be over a dozen books now, dealing with, not only your own encounters with the Visitors, as you call them, but also quite a bit of reporting on research by other scholars who have been looking into it. You’ve been, I have to say, pushing this subject now for decades. I notice at the end of your recent book, A New World, you refer to yourself as conjuring, conjuring up ​ ​ maybe a new world that we can live in. Which makes me think that, perhaps, you’re not just a contactee but maybe even a bit of a magician. (02:29) WS: [Laughs] You caught me. Yes, I am... attempting to work a magic, ​ ​ but it needs more critical mass, there have to be more people involved so far for that really to unfold on a large scale. But, it is quietly unfolding behind the scenes where nobody can see, in certain lives, for sure. What it consists of is helping others to open themselves in such a way that they can be seen and related to by something that is moving through 1 reality in a very different way. That’s essentially what the conjuring is about, placing people in a situation where they can do this, making it happen on a larger scale. There's a critical mass, where if it had happened to a certain number of people it would probably eventually begin to happen with everybody. You know, it was very hard to ride a bicycle when they were first invented. It's quite easy now, it only takes a few minutes to learn. The same principle applies here. (03:57) JM: At the moment, when I think of a parallel to perhaps what you’ve ​ ​ been doing, it's not the best parallel, but I’m thinking of the Nobel Laureate poet, W.B. Yeats, who was a member of the Order of the Golden Dawn. I think in … fact, I did an interview with the scholar Gary Lachman [Correction: This ​ conversation about Yeats was with James Tunney in “The Irish Contribution to Understanding Consciousness”], a scholar of esoteric history, which, he describes ​ Yeats as deliberately trying to conjure up, through his writing, his poetry in particular, an awareness of the ancient Irish fairy faith, the ancient Irish contact with many beings of the supersensible world. It seems in a way that you’re continuing in that tradition. (04:45) WS: [Recites poem, “The Song of Wandering Aengus” by W.B. Yeats:] ​ ​ I went out to [the] hazel wood, Because a fire was in my head, And cut and peeled a hazel wand, And hooked a berry to a thread; And when white moths were on the wing, And moth-like stars were flickering out, I dropped the berry in a stream And caught a little silver trout. When I [had] laid it on the floor And [I] went to blow the fire a-flame, But something rustled on the floor, And someone called me by my name: It had become a glimmering girl With apple blossom in her hair Who called me by my name [and ran] And vanished [faded] through the brightening air. Though I am old with wandering Through hollow lands and hilly lands, I will find [out] where she has gone, And kiss her lips and take her hands; 2 And walk [among] long dappled grass, [And pluck] Till time and times are done, And pluck the silver apples of the moon, The golden apples of the sun. (05:54) WS: That’s the song of wandering Aengus. When Annie was dying, in January of 2015, she knew ​ ​ - I did not at that time, she didn't actually pass until August - she began telling me that I must memorize that poem. When I did, finally, after she died, the white moth became the central figure of our relationship and has been ever since. Her favorite story of mine, written many years ago, it’s called “The White Moths.” It is about a woman discovering that she has died. Yeats’ journey is a very profound part of my own life, because he left the magic of his journey in his poetry. He was a successful magician and conjurer. (07:00) JM: Sometimes you describe yourself, in spite of your enormous output, as not having ​ ​ succeeded, you feel last time we spoke, over a year ago, that the world had basically rejected you. … (07:16) WS: Well, it has. The world has rejected me, but that doesn't mean ​ ​ necessarily that I’m not succeeding on a personal level, which is very much the case, I am. There’s a tiny coterie of people who know that and who participate with me in this journey, but the world at large For example, I heard a fellow … called Dennis McKenna on Joe Rogan’s show, and talking about me, which is always an unpleasant thing to hear. I don't listen to Joe Rogan’s show, generally, but somebody sent me a tape of it. And there he was, saying, “Oh, you know,” Rogan was saying, “Oh, I wouldn't have Whitley Strieber on my show because he’s too strange.” And, Dennis McKenna was saying, “Oh yes, well, that's true. I was with him at a conference and he certainly has got an element of strangeness about him. But, if you have him on, you should have him on with that professor, Jeffrey Krippal, who sort of writes with him.” But, this is the that's the … general gist of it. But, mostly, mostly, I’m totally and completely ignored. It's as if I didn't exist. Now, my books for example, nearly a year since it’s publication, A New World has been reviewed exactly … ​ ​ once off somewhere outside of Amazon, by a reviewer with an ability to write. That appeared in the San Antonio Express News. I would be surprised if anything appeared anywhere else because the ​ assumption is that anyone who advocates what I advocate, that the soul is real and that there are many entities in consciousness, is simply going to be ignored because soul blindness is not something that it's not only an affliction, it's also an addiction. We’re addicted to not wanting to feel … responsible for our lives. (09:53) JM: Well, that’s a very profound thought, and maybe one of the reasons that people have such ​ ​ difficulty, is because you’re challenging them to go so deep. 3 (10:05) WS: Yeah, I am challenging them to look at themselves in places that they don't want to look. ​ ​ But, you know, why not look now. You’re gonna look later, for sure. I have encountered many souls in the other level, who end up doing this after they have died. There's no way to repair the situation then. They have to you’re left then with what you’ve brought. You carry your basket into the other world … and once you leave this one you can't take anything out of it or put anything in again. (10:45) JM: It seems to me, Whitley, that we have a few things in common in that regard. I’m a ​ ​ parapsychologist, as I think you know and I have the only doctoral diploma ever issued by an accredited university that says, “Parapsychology,” so here I am. But, you know, I have a YouTube following, there are 75,000 subscribers to this channel and I know that you also have a big following of people who don’t care about the larger public perception, they see you for who you are. (11:25) WS: That’s right. And that’s why we're both here, because there are people, and more and ​ ​ more every day like that. They’re hungry people. They know that there is something missing, that this is a culture of starvation. One of the Visitors, years ago, I think it was the old lady whose on the cover of Communion, whom I’ve seen a few times and I portrayed her very poorly, but she’s fortunately not ​ ​ vain, so she’s been amused by it. But in any case, she wants in some context that I can’t really recall clearly, she said, “You are very poor to me [meaning us].” The human species is very poor.
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