VILLAGE OF OSSINING Planning Department John Paul Rodrigues Ossining Operations Center 101 Route 9A, Ossining, N.Y. 10562 Tel: (914)762-6232 www.villageofossining.org

HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AGENDA Monday, June 1, 2020 7:30 PM

Due to public health and safety concerns related to Covid-19, the Historic Preservation Commission members will hold their meeting remotely in accordance with Executive Order 202.1.

The public can watch the live meeting online through Zoom. Please log on to https://zoom.us/j/95938183057 to view the meeting. If any interested members of the publicwould like to provide comments on an application, comments can be called in during the meeting at 1 + (929) 205-6099, Meeting ID: 959-3818-3057, or provided through the written chat section of the Zoom meeting. Comments can also be emailed before and during the public hearing to the Village Planning Department at [email protected] or [email protected]. Please check the Village website for updates. The meeting will be recorded. The video and a transcript of the meeting will be available on the Village website at a later date.

I. CONTINUING BUSINESS OF THE BOARD

A. High School Essay Contest

II. NEW BUSINESS OF THE BOARD

A. Future HPC Projects

III. ADDITIONAL BUSINESS OF THE BOARD

A. Approval of minutes and resolutions from the May 4, 2020 meeting.

B. Pursuant to the Governor's Executive Order 202.1, dated March 12, 2020, the meeting transcript is attached. HPC Transcript 6-1-20

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1 00:00:01.860 --> 00:00:04.859 Manuel Quezada: here in Austin in dive. You have Jaime Martinez is our

2 00:00:05.879 --> 00:00:07.319 Manuel Quezada: Director of Planning. Correct.

3 00:00:07.740 --> 00:00:08.429 Jaime Martinez: Hello, yes.

4 00:00:08.700 --> 00:00:18.510 Manuel Quezada: We had a score kahan in there. He's an attorney, and I'm going to let the rest of the SPC work on introduce himself, but I will like if you can contact me, I will

5 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:21.840 Manuel Quezada: Have a deeper conversation and

6 00:00:23.130 --> 00:00:23.490 Manuel Quezada: Brown.

7 00:00:24.660 --> 00:00:25.710 Manuel Quezada: Fascinating. So

8 00:00:26.040 --> 00:00:30.120 Manuel Quezada: I don't you can you can reach me in our website. I mean,

9 00:00:30.570 --> 00:00:31.590 SAMSUNG-SM-G935V: That was my question is not

10 00:00:31.590 --> 00:00:43.950 Manuel Quezada: So good. If you go to our website is usually my email address will be cassava I village of Austin in that order. And I will love to get in contact with you at some point.

11 00:00:44.070 --> 00:00:44.820 SAMSUNG-SM-G935V: You know when. Okay.

12 00:00:45.450 --> 00:00:49.350 Manuel Quezada: So I will love to find out more about you and what you know what

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13 00:00:49.410 --> 00:00:49.950 SAMSUNG-SM-G935V: What I could

14 00:00:50.670 --> 00:00:51.900 Manuel Quezada: Find things have you done

15 00:00:53.160 --> 00:00:55.680 SAMSUNG-SM-G935V: Yeah, I've only got a couple of local excavations

16 00:00:56.010 --> 00:01:00.780 SAMSUNG-SM-G935V: Up in Putnam valley so not too many around the area but you know I have

17 00:01:01.950 --> 00:01:05.490 SAMSUNG-SM-G935V: Don't want to date myself 30 years of archaeological experience so

18 00:01:07.980 --> 00:01:13.980 SAMSUNG-SM-G935V: It'll be a good if I can bring something to the table, I'd be more than happy to. So I'll look you up on the

19 00:01:14.010 --> 00:01:20.700 Manuel Quezada: On the website. So yes, okay. Definitely. Alright. Sorry about that. Sorry guys, for taking over subtle party.

20 00:01:20.730 --> 00:01:25.080 Manuel Quezada: All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna take over myself now for now. Sorry.

21 00:01:29.430 --> 00:01:31.200 Adam Markovics: Okay. Good evening, everyone.

22 00:01:33.330 --> 00:01:39.390 Adam Markovics: I myself had trouble logging on this evening and have been having trouble with my village email.

23 00:01:39.720 --> 00:01:48.660 Adam Markovics: And I'll have to do something about that soon. Perhaps Dana White has also had the same problems this evening.

24 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:51.540

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Adam Markovics: I have not heard from

25 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:54.420 Adam Markovics: Dana.

26 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:56.910 Adam Markovics: So she makes she makes sure

27 00:01:58.920 --> 00:02:02.010 Adam Markovics: Why don't we start with a roll call.

28 00:02:03.780 --> 00:02:05.430 Adam Markovics: This is Adam Markovic speaking

29 00:02:13.770 --> 00:02:14.760 Stephen Casey: Steve, Casey.

30 00:02:28.770 --> 00:02:34.770 Jaime Martinez: Hi, Ray Martinez planning director as well. Stuart gone and trusty Cassandra.

31 00:02:38.040 --> 00:02:56.520 Adam Markovics: Okay. Very, very good. Good evening. Hi. May Joyce Catherine Stephen Phil Manny and Stuart, good evening to all of you. And thanks for being here this evening. I think this will be a brief meeting there is nothing on the agenda other than

32 00:02:57.900 --> 00:03:03.510 Adam Markovics: I'm going longer term projects. There are no applicants before us this evening.

33 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:15.660 Adam Markovics: I heard in advance of tonight's meeting from Commission, Member Julia Quinn, who I believe has been a commission member for about a year now.

34 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:22.620 Adam Markovics: She advised me that she would not be in attendance this evening, and that it was her

35 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:25.560 Adam Markovics: Regrettable intention.

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36 00:03:26.700 --> 00:03:28.650 Adam Markovics: To step down from the HBC

37 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:33.780 Adam Markovics: So that's effective immediately.

38 00:03:36.630 --> 00:03:40.800 Adam Markovics: She wishes the HBC well but I think it's a matter of

39 00:03:42.300 --> 00:03:44.550 Adam Markovics: Personal commitments becoming

40 00:03:46.230 --> 00:03:47.880 Adam Markovics: Overwhelming and

41 00:03:49.140 --> 00:03:56.250 Adam Markovics: Other interests, be it. Be that as it may, she she is no longer going to be an HTC member

42 00:03:57.360 --> 00:03:59.730 Adam Markovics: That would leave six of us.

43 00:04:00.870 --> 00:04:12.150 Adam Markovics: Stewart. Do you have any thoughts about filling the vacancy. I know I'm just dropping this on you. I learned this myself about 20 minutes ago.

44 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:16.020 Stuart Kahan: I have to check with the manager is it is managerial women.

45 00:04:19.020 --> 00:04:20.520 Adam Markovics: I'm sorry, that's my

46 00:04:20.550 --> 00:04:27.000 Stuart Kahan: Will have to check with the manager, because it's a managerial appointment. I do not know if there are people who have

47 00:04:27.270 --> 00:04:31.200 Stuart Kahan: Otherwise applied for the HTC positions.

48 00:04:31.650 --> 00:04:31.890

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Okay.

49 00:04:34.410 --> 00:04:37.920 Manuel Quezada: Very Adam for interrupt so it on. I will

50 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:52.800 Manuel Quezada: That's something that Karen and I have talked in the past. So I will also follow up with her tomorrow as well done some other items that I have to talk to her as well. So, but I'm really sorry that Julie had to step down.

51 00:04:53.010 --> 00:04:55.650 Manuel Quezada: I'm very sad over. Thank you.

52 00:04:56.790 --> 00:04:58.560 Jaime Martinez: By the way, Dana White has joined the call.

53 00:05:02.580 --> 00:05:05.280 Adam Markovics: Okay. Good evening, Dana wherever you are.

54 00:05:07.110 --> 00:05:12.240 Adam Markovics: And thank you, Manny for passing along that information to the village manager.

55 00:05:13.860 --> 00:05:23.130 Adam Markovics: Dana, I announced at the outset that commission member Julia Quinn is stepping down from the HTC effective immediately.

56 00:05:24.060 --> 00:05:30.030 Adam Markovics: And many case out of will be speaking to the village manager about whether there have been any

57 00:05:31.020 --> 00:05:43.110 Adam Markovics: applicants for for the previous vacancies perhaps still waiting in the wings and other supposed to be alternative at one point in time, perhaps one of those alternatives may be, may be tapped for this vacancy.

58 00:05:46.710 --> 00:05:52.050 Adam Markovics: Okay, so I think the, the only formal item on the agenda.

59 00:05:53.550 --> 00:05:59.370

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Adam Markovics: Is the high school essay contest. I made some nice headway with that.

60 00:06:00.540 --> 00:06:25.620 Adam Markovics: Between our last meeting and today I emailed a copy of the high school essay contest proposal to the superintendent of the Ossining school district gray Sanchez who received it enthusiastically and in turn forwarded the proposal on to the high school principal for Austin in high school.

61 00:06:26.970 --> 00:06:33.420 Adam Markovics: Or received it enthusiastically and who in turn forwarded the proposal to

62 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:50.580 Adam Markovics: I believe the head of the social studies unit. I'm not sure of her title offhand hurt her name is Miss play lo who I corresponded with really in just the last few days leading up to this evenings meeting.

63 00:06:51.750 --> 00:07:06.060 Adam Markovics: And I think Miss polo is the person who ultimately is going to give us specific comments and or criticisms about the proposal in the form we submitted it

64 00:07:06.840 --> 00:07:20.490 Adam Markovics: And we'll have ideas about how to roll out the contest other you know rules that she she may believe or or guidelines that she may believe are appropriate to add or change.

65 00:07:21.540 --> 00:07:24.060 Adam Markovics: So while I had hoped to have

66 00:07:25.860 --> 00:07:43.890 Adam Markovics: This sort of buttoned up by this evening I unfortunately don't have that news to report moving swiftly, I think, and the reception so far has been favorable and positive. So I'm optimistic that

67 00:07:45.570 --> 00:07:51.360 Adam Markovics: That that that the high school is interested in partnering with the HTC in this

68 00:07:52.440 --> 00:07:55.440 Adam Markovics: And hopefully this will be rolled out

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69 00:07:57.180 --> 00:07:57.810 Adam Markovics: Soon.

70 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:03.690 Adam Markovics: The

71 00:08:04.710 --> 00:08:06.360 Adam Markovics: Does anyone have any questions about that.

72 00:08:16.110 --> 00:08:23.850 Adam Markovics: Does everyone know how to use the raise your hand feature I just learned how to do that. My cell phone, zoom, you don't have to. You can just speak up.

73 00:08:25.980 --> 00:08:27.810 Joyce Cole: Adam, I have a question.

74 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:32.250 Adam Markovics: Phil that's that that's the old fashioned, raise your hand. That's very good film.

75 00:08:36.060 --> 00:08:36.690 Joyce Cole: Do you have a question.

76 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:40.230 Joyce Cole: Can you hear me.

77 00:08:40.530 --> 00:08:41.670 Adam Markovics: I can hear you. Joyce.

78 00:08:44.220 --> 00:08:48.270 Joyce Cole: So the question is, will the school in flushing out

79 00:08:49.800 --> 00:09:01.500 Joyce Cole: How the the essay will be handed in if it's to be digital or Cameron. Is that something that you're going to leave up to the school to kind of make that determination of what's best.

80 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:06.120 Adam Markovics: Yeah, I, I had really hope to

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00:09:08.280 --> 00:09:10.080 Adam Markovics: Set a date for

82 00:09:11.370 --> 00:09:28.830 Adam Markovics: Miss polo who I believe is is really the the contact person at the high school to hash out all of those logistical details with us. And I'm sorry for not making this clear Joyce that expressed in a particular interest in this project as

83 00:09:30.330 --> 00:09:47.250 Adam Markovics: And and ICC them both on some of the correspondence not, I believe, the more recent correspondence with Miss Taylor trying to set down at a date and time to discuss this. I even invited her to attend this evenings meeting, but I'm waiting to hear back

84 00:09:49.620 --> 00:10:00.270 Adam Markovics: Understandably folks are this is still a very strange time. We're not through this yet. It's gotten stranger over the weekend for other very regrettable reasons.

85 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:18.210 Adam Markovics: So yeah, you know, will I will follow up with Miss hello. If I don't hear in in the next week or so and try to set up a time maybe by zoom and maybe the village can help facilitate this for a smaller meeting maybe

86 00:10:19.560 --> 00:10:22.380 Adam Markovics: With me and Joyce and Phil

87 00:10:23.670 --> 00:10:27.360 Adam Markovics: to hash out the details choice. You just mentioned.

88 00:10:31.410 --> 00:10:32.970 Adam Markovics: Hey, thank you. Sure.

89 00:10:34.380 --> 00:10:49.230 Jaime Martinez: I can set up any zoom meeting this team lead. So all you really need to do is just tell me when, where, and not really where but one and and I'll set it up in email everybody out. So, okay.

90 00:10:49.260 --> 00:10:50.640 Adam Markovics: Thank you. Hi, may appreciate it.

91 00:10:51.870 --> 00:11:09.600

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Adam Markovics: And Jaime and Stuart, again, I mentioned that I've been having problems with my film Gmail. I hope to get it resolved by the end of this week earlier this evening, I emailed or scanned PDFs of to certificates of appropriateness. If you receive those

92 00:11:09.870 --> 00:11:10.440 I did.

93 00:11:13.140 --> 00:11:14.640 Jaime Martinez: Have you reached out to

94 00:11:18.690 --> 00:11:19.410 Jaime Martinez: Mr. Cooper.

95 00:11:20.340 --> 00:11:21.330 I

96 00:11:22.410 --> 00:11:28.290 Adam Markovics: If all goes well, I'm going to take some time off this Friday and I will get in touch with its Craig Cooper right

97 00:11:28.350 --> 00:11:29.010 Jaime Martinez: Right Cooper. Yeah.

98 00:11:29.430 --> 00:11:31.860 Adam Markovics: I will try to reach out to him.

99 00:11:32.070 --> 00:11:33.000 Jaime Martinez: If you

100 00:11:33.870 --> 00:11:39.420 Jaime Martinez: If you wanna. I don't know if you had any intention to but if you have some attention and trying to get into the

101 00:11:40.290 --> 00:11:48.390 Jaime Martinez: Village space. I have to check with, you know, check to see if it's possible but I usually work from home, but I can certainly come in and meet you there.

102 00:11:48.810 --> 00:11:59.550 Jaime Martinez: To see if we can help facilitate the conversation if there's any challenges. Otherwise, but you can also just email me or call me on my phone. I believe you may have my phone. Not sure.

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103 00:12:02.610 --> 00:12:09.240 Adam Markovics: I'm not sure that I do, but I'll continue this maybe after the meeting with you. Hi, man, I appreciate it.

104 00:12:11.700 --> 00:12:17.340 Adam Markovics: While we're talking about tech technological issues, I believe everyone on this call.

105 00:12:19.290 --> 00:12:23.220 Adam Markovics: Has a Gmail account at this point. Right.

106 00:12:26.880 --> 00:12:32.400 Adam Markovics: Okay, good. Yeah, I think, Stephen Joyce, you're the newest comers.

107 00:12:33.810 --> 00:12:37.170 Adam Markovics: So I'm glad to hear you. You've gotten that setup.

108 00:12:39.300 --> 00:12:42.420 Adam Markovics: And it appears, we've lost Dana, but she may be back.

109 00:12:45.510 --> 00:12:49.320 Adam Markovics: Okay, so that takes care of the only

110 00:12:50.340 --> 00:12:51.960 Adam Markovics: Formal agenda item.

111 00:12:52.980 --> 00:13:02.820 Adam Markovics: I had one additional thought which I'll get into in a minute, and then we'll open it up to anything that's on any of your minds.

112 00:13:04.050 --> 00:13:04.650 Adam Markovics: There.

113 00:13:05.790 --> 00:13:09.300 Adam Markovics: was circulated a number of weeks ago.

114 00:13:11.430 --> 00:13:15.240 Adam Markovics: I think by Jamie Kane, although I can't be certain.

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115 00:13:17.460 --> 00:13:27.690 Adam Markovics: A grant opportunity to submit an application for a historic marker through. I think it's called the Pomeroy foundation

116 00:13:30.090 --> 00:13:42.930 Adam Markovics: Does anyone recall this email correspondence about the Pomeroy Foundation grant. These are these cast iron signs that you see all over State.

117 00:13:44.820 --> 00:14:04.320 Adam Markovics: You know, on or Jason to existing or once existing historic sites that say a little significance of the site that's that's what these markers are there's a fast approaching deadline real fast. I believe there's a

118 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:19.560 Adam Markovics: Sort of preliminary deadline next Monday for expressing a intent to submit a more formal application sometime in July.

119 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:22.290 Adam Markovics: If anyone

120 00:14:23.370 --> 00:14:44.820 Adam Markovics: On the call is sort of particularly moved by this opportunity. I understand time is extremely tight on this one, but if anyone is, as I say, moved by this opportunity and would like to discuss it further with me, either now or later.

121 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:47.970 Adam Markovics: Please, please let me know.

122 00:14:53.580 --> 00:15:03.090 Adam Markovics: Because for, for instance, and I'm sorry, Dana had dropped out of this part of the conversation, but she she had, I think,

123 00:15:04.140 --> 00:15:09.210 Adam Markovics: expressed an interest in perhaps obtaining a marker for

124 00:15:11.910 --> 00:15:13.080 Jaime Martinez: We had Dana White back

125 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:20.220

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Jaime Martinez: Dan, is that she's been upgraded yeah she she was in the attendee or I was able to move over into the balance pool.

126 00:15:26.130 --> 00:15:27.300 Adam Markovics: Dan, are you there.

127 00:15:33.420 --> 00:15:41.070 Adam Markovics: While we're waiting for Dana I as memory serves me, I think she had mentioned an interest in creating

128 00:15:42.750 --> 00:15:46.380 Adam Markovics: Or submitting an application for a marker for the for the camp woods

129 00:15:47.550 --> 00:15:47.910 Adam Markovics: Sort of

130 00:15:48.930 --> 00:15:49.500 Adam Markovics: Community.

131 00:15:51.240 --> 00:15:53.820 Adam Markovics: Just as an example, and I think there's

132 00:15:55.830 --> 00:16:17.070 Adam Markovics: In enthusiasm in that community for, you know, recognizing the historic significance of the community and the community, you know, would be available, I believe, to assist and if Dana doesn't show up in a day or two. I may discuss this with her further after. After tonight's meeting.

133 00:16:18.270 --> 00:16:19.320 Phil Faranda: Up with a great idea.

134 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:23.970 Jaime Martinez: I do have a, I have online.

135 00:16:25.620 --> 00:16:32.160 Jaime Martinez: Like the Pomeroy Foundation, the New York State Historic Margaret grant program if you'd like. I can share my

136 00:16:33.660 --> 00:16:38.010 Jaime Martinez: Screen so that people can see what it looks like if there's an interest.

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137 00:16:40.500 --> 00:16:44.610 Stephen Casey: I'll give you a good idea to take advantage of it. If we can

138 00:16:46.290 --> 00:16:48.570 Stephen Casey: Do to to appropriately mark.

139 00:16:50.730 --> 00:16:53.970 Jaime Martinez: This is the New York State Historic marker grant program.

140 00:16:55.110 --> 00:16:58.860 Jaime Martinez: It can be found at w GP foundation.org

141 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:05.790 Jaime Martinez: And this is how it works. It's pretty straightforward. I'm not very familiar with it, I

142 00:17:07.710 --> 00:17:10.800 Jaime Martinez: Don't think I know any I certainly don't know any more than

143 00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:15.840 Jaime Martinez: Then ADAM Does in our chairman, but

144 00:17:16.860 --> 00:17:17.460 Jaime Martinez: This is it.

145 00:17:21.330 --> 00:17:22.080 Jaime Martinez: So it would

146 00:17:23.700 --> 00:17:27.210 Jaime Martinez: I'm not sure. Do we have any of these here locally, we

147 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:36.540 Adam Markovics: I'm aware of to I'm aware of. One located in the Sparta cemetery for the leather, man.

148 00:17:38.070 --> 00:17:43.890 Adam Markovics: The alleged burial site of the leather, man. I'm also aware of one

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149 00:17:45.540 --> 00:17:47.670 Adam Markovics: on Route nine

150 00:17:49.500 --> 00:17:56.370 Adam Markovics: Sort of at the periphery of the historic district in front of what I believe is Maria's pizza.

151 00:17:58.320 --> 00:18:02.610 Adam Markovics: Which was once a hotel on the Albany post road.

152 00:18:04.170 --> 00:18:05.790 Adam Markovics: Called I think the Union hotel.

153 00:18:08.940 --> 00:18:14.460 Adam Markovics: There may be others, but those are the two I'm I'm fairly certain are Pomeroy signs.

154 00:18:14.820 --> 00:18:22.860 Stephen Casey: I believe there's another one as you as you're driving north on what is it nine eight and you pass the Presbyterian Church.

155 00:18:25.110 --> 00:18:32.550 Stephen Casey: Shortly before they are, and it's too. Can't remember an individual who lived in Ossining. The name is still in the town.

156 00:18:35.730 --> 00:18:37.590 Stephen Casey: leaflet in the revolution.

157 00:18:38.670 --> 00:18:44.220 Stephen Casey: Or the Civil War, but there is a marker shortly before you get to the Presbyterian church there.

158 00:18:48.510 --> 00:18:51.810 Adam Markovics: Thank you. Stephen and be interesting to know, you know,

159 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:57.840 Adam Markovics: The, the HTC is still as a as a body relatively

160 00:18:58.950 --> 00:18:59.640 Adam Markovics: Young

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00:19:01.080 --> 00:19:05.550 Adam Markovics: I mean, I've got three some odd years under my belt.

162 00:19:07.800 --> 00:19:12.780 Adam Markovics: The interesting to know if the HTC was involved in those previous

163 00:19:14.190 --> 00:19:17.310 Adam Markovics: Under undertakings with the Pomeroy foundation

164 00:19:18.690 --> 00:19:21.120 Adam Markovics: I'm not aware that any of those signs were

165 00:19:22.980 --> 00:19:27.780 Adam Markovics: You know projects of the HP PC or in partnership with the HTC in the last three years.

166 00:19:29.340 --> 00:19:43.050 Adam Markovics: But it's certainly a worthwhile project if anyone on the calls interested and has the time which is really tight and I'm sorry for not calling attention to this at

167 00:19:44.130 --> 00:19:46.770 Adam Markovics: Our last meeting, just let me know.

168 00:19:48.360 --> 00:19:51.540 Adam Markovics: And again, I may follow up with Dana about this, about camp what's

169 00:19:54.300 --> 00:19:56.520 Adam Markovics: Thank you. Hi. May for sharing the screen.

170 00:20:00.270 --> 00:20:03.240 Adam Markovics: So that, that's it for for me.

171 00:20:05.100 --> 00:20:08.520 Adam Markovics: And I just got a text from Dana, who says that she can't get in.

172 00:20:12.450 --> 00:20:13.110 Adam Markovics: I

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00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:20.100 Adam Markovics: You know, I had difficulty myself tonight, but that's I've been having all kinds of difficulty with Gmail.

174 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:42.690 Adam Markovics: Well, I'm inclined to to open it up to the group you know if anyone has anything in particular in, you know, on your mind, in regard to historic preservation

175 00:20:43.980 --> 00:20:47.010 Adam Markovics: What the HTC is up to should be up to now.

176 00:20:48.630 --> 00:20:58.350 Adam Markovics: You know, should the HTC priorities shift in any way, given all of the things that have been going on in the world, please share

177 00:21:11.040 --> 00:21:20.850 Manuel Quezada: Some of the members decide to interact. I'm going to participate for a few minutes. If I may, um, I just want to kind of bring the SPC

178 00:21:21.540 --> 00:21:42.150 Manuel Quezada: Attention, a little bit of what the comp plan is going for. And what we're trying to do and accomplish, and I'm going to ask. I'm it to help me out. And can I give a brief description and what are the next steps on the comp plan. We are preparing ourselves to star sub committed with different

179 00:21:43.950 --> 00:21:53.340 Manuel Quezada: Different categories I orange juice or the member is the SPC to kind of go back and look a little bit of the previous meetings. There are in zoom

180 00:21:54.270 --> 00:22:05.370 Manuel Quezada: Just to kind of give give you guys an update and what we've been doing and what is going on. And now level and obviously some of the parts I had mentioned to HBC before

181 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:10.830 Manuel Quezada: Is it has to do with the downtown and what happens on

182 00:22:11.520 --> 00:22:20.370

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Manuel Quezada: We started declaring that we have there now and what could be happening across the street from Main Street, you know, the parking lot and market square

183 00:22:20.730 --> 00:22:37.380 Manuel Quezada: Is something I believe the SPC should definitely be involved as I'm sort of like an overlaid or something along those lines to actually protect the history or try to have some sort of arm cohesive arm.

184 00:22:38.790 --> 00:22:49.140 Manuel Quezada: Architectural designs within within an ass. So if I, if I may, I may you want to feel the rest of HBC in regards to what we've been doing on on the comp plan.

185 00:22:52.170 --> 00:22:55.020 Jaime Martinez: Sure thing. Well, thank you, Christine Cassandra.

186 00:22:56.580 --> 00:23:03.330 Jaime Martinez: So, as some of you are probably aware of the comprehensive plan processes started, I started

187 00:23:04.410 --> 00:23:12.090 Jaime Martinez: Guess it's been about two months now. So I think I want to say it started in earnest, shortly after I started here.

188 00:23:13.620 --> 00:23:20.010 Jaime Martinez: We hired a consultant fee either a few weeks, or maybe a month or so before I started

189 00:23:20.700 --> 00:23:27.480 Jaime Martinez: In March, mid March. And so we've kind of gotten to the process now we're starting to do a lot of the background information.

190 00:23:28.080 --> 00:23:41.910 Jaime Martinez: Starting to public engagement to ask people, their opinions within the things they'd like to see change. They've developed the outline of the plan itself and the next step in the process is to continue with sort of this really robust

191 00:23:42.930 --> 00:23:57.120 Jaime Martinez: Community engagement process. So there's a couple of different ways they're approaching the community engagement. One is through stakeholder meetings. And so the stakeholder groups are going to

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be coming together around specific topics and elements of the plan, whether that's

192 00:23:58.260 --> 00:24:02.880 Jaime Martinez: Talking about religious, cultural or circle or business community or

193 00:24:03.210 --> 00:24:04.050 Jaime Martinez: You know, different

194 00:24:04.320 --> 00:24:05.310 Jaime Martinez: People who are involved with

195 00:24:05.340 --> 00:24:06.600 The portable housing. Hello.

196 00:24:08.010 --> 00:24:08.400 18454801243: Hello.

197 00:24:10.560 --> 00:24:11.610 18454801243: I just called in

198 00:24:13.290 --> 00:24:13.890 Jaime Martinez: Timing I'm

199 00:24:13.950 --> 00:24:15.240 18454801243: Sorry, I could not get in

200 00:24:16.950 --> 00:24:21.150 Jaime Martinez: I why I added you a couple of times, promoted you two panelists.

201 00:24:22.170 --> 00:24:22.710 Jaime Martinez: Never

202 00:24:22.830 --> 00:24:23.220 When

203 00:24:24.810 --> 00:24:25.800 18454801243: You couldn't hear me.

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00:24:28.320 --> 00:24:30.090 18454801243: Anyway, I have to do it this way, this time.

205 00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:32.670 Jaime Martinez: Okay.

206 00:24:34.260 --> 00:24:34.830 Jaime Martinez: Um,

207 00:24:36.090 --> 00:24:40.410 Jaime Martinez: Alright, so the you know the the process right now is

208 00:24:41.100 --> 00:24:47.670 Jaime Martinez: Moving together pretty heavily with the stakeholder meetings, but we're also going through the ideas. Well, so if I can. I'm going to share my screen again.

209 00:24:47.940 --> 00:24:58.680 Jaime Martinez: I want to show you a couple of different elements when the outline of the plan. And then the second vignette, the ideas. Well, which I think are a place where you as board members can really go and engage with the process.

210 00:25:00.510 --> 00:25:01.260 Jaime Martinez: So first,

211 00:25:02.310 --> 00:25:03.240 Jaime Martinez: My screen.

212 00:25:04.410 --> 00:25:18.600 Jaime Martinez: So if you go to the Ossining comprehensive plan page. It's actually OS named tomorrow calm. So it's been a there was a naming process we went and we put it out to the community.

213 00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:28.620 Jaime Martinez: We get a whole lot of responses from coming out of the best possible name, but the name that end up on top was Ossining tomorrow, which I think is a fantastic name.

214 00:25:29.700 --> 00:25:33.240 Jaime Martinez: Kind of, you know, points to the sort of forward looking

215 00:25:35.190 --> 00:25:45.120

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Jaime Martinez: Intention of this plan to really kind of take Ossining into the future and come up with a plan that meets all the criteria of what the community really wants. So the

216 00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:57.690 Jaime Martinez: The plan overall has about 10 chapters will have 10 chapters. There's the introduction chapter village and regional overview, which a draft has been prepared for that.

217 00:25:58.290 --> 00:26:15.180 Jaime Martinez: The land use and zoning, which has had a draft beer for that. And then there's also captures on the waterfront the downtown crescent economic development transportation sustainable infrastructure housing and neighborhood preservation and then the end its cultural and historic resources.

218 00:26:16.530 --> 00:26:30.210 Jaime Martinez: And finally, all this is kind of summed up together in an action agenda with implementation, which essentially points to, you know, the idea that the Comprehensive Plan is going to have a lot of recommendations for changes either getting made to the zoning code or

219 00:26:31.350 --> 00:26:47.460 Jaime Martinez: You know movements towards various different things to help kind of move forward with a plan. So my understanding is the last plan that came out 2009 had over 50 recommendations, most of which were enacted. I'm not sure if the historic preservation committee.

220 00:26:49.050 --> 00:26:59.070 Jaime Martinez: Is something that came out of the 2009 plan, but those are the types of things that you do sometimes see out of plans where new special committees are created to focus on

221 00:27:00.660 --> 00:27:01.950 Jaime Martinez: critical components of the plan.

222 00:27:04.020 --> 00:27:04.920 Jaime Martinez: Now the

223 00:27:06.300 --> 00:27:18.840 Jaime Martinez: If you go to the Comprehensive Plan page you'll see this stuff on the input to get your input on this is for the ideas. Well, so I want to take everybody to the ideas. Well, which is really pretty cool and it's getting

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00:27:21.900 --> 00:27:23.700 Jaime Martinez: It's getting some traction. Oh, no.

225 00:27:26.550 --> 00:27:28.500 Jaime Martinez: That doesn't make you look like it's contracts.

226 00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:33.120 Jaime Martinez: Baroness okay

227 00:27:34.260 --> 00:27:36.630 Jaime Martinez: So if you go here.

228 00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:49.050 Jaime Martinez: Essentially, you can put an idea on the page and then people can like it or dislike it to sort of prompt it up and down to get people engaged in what they're interested in. So there have been quite a few different

229 00:27:49.740 --> 00:28:02.550 Jaime Martinez: Topics here. They're all kind of color coordinated so it's from housing neighborhoods, transportation, you can have development culture and history municipal facilities and sustainability and say we're interested in, specifically the cultural and historic ones.

230 00:28:04.290 --> 00:28:06.060 Jaime Martinez: You can see

231 00:28:07.230 --> 00:28:20.940 Jaime Martinez: So, the ones that come up, so far as they would like you know one person recommends establishing a historic Ossining tourism consortium to assess the viability of developing historical, cultural community oriented tourism program.

232 00:28:22.380 --> 00:28:27.780 Jaime Martinez: Somebody mentioned that we should honor long time Ossining resident and writer john Cheever

233 00:28:29.700 --> 00:28:33.390 Jaime Martinez: Another person mentioned that there should be more public art euros.

234 00:28:34.590 --> 00:28:39.900 Jaime Martinez: Things like that. And again, this is historic preservation and cultural this so this culture and history together.

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235 00:28:40.710 --> 00:28:49.590 Jaime Martinez: So that's how they found that, but there's a bunch of other comments, whether it's from, you know, talking about taxes or parking or, you know, environmental

236 00:28:50.010 --> 00:28:57.960 Jaime Martinez: Issues and things of that nature. So this is a really good place. I think that you can yourself engage and and you know putting up ideas.

237 00:28:58.410 --> 00:29:03.540 Jaime Martinez: That you think that the village should look at. But it's also something that you can forward your networks.

238 00:29:03.900 --> 00:29:11.760 Jaime Martinez: And tell people that you know the community that want to have their voice heard say hey go put up on the idea as well. And, you know, the important thing to know is we look at reading this.

239 00:29:12.150 --> 00:29:20.610 Jaime Martinez: This is going to be factored into the plan and because of the Cogan crisis, a lot of the engagement that people need to do now really is going to be online so

240 00:29:21.180 --> 00:29:25.500 Jaime Martinez: This is one of the easiest ways to engage when when you're not able to go to a public hearing

241 00:29:26.190 --> 00:29:40.080 Jaime Martinez: Think about it in the same way, like if you were to go to a public hearing you know we have you know two public hearings on the comprehensive plan to really get a lot of user engagement feedback on top of the stakeholder meetings. Now those stakeholder meetings are being held on mine.

242 00:29:41.310 --> 00:29:48.090 Jaime Martinez: And if we're able to, we're going to have public meetings, but if we're not a lot of that engagement is going to have to place through the virtual town hall like they did with

243 00:29:51.210 --> 00:29:53.130 Jaime Martinez: You know, with the questions around the BW say

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00:29:54.570 --> 00:30:00.450 Jaime Martinez: About six weeks ago and it would take place and same way, but this is a something that's open all the time that you can kind of engaging

245 00:30:02.340 --> 00:30:14.160 Jaime Martinez: That to let people know about what you're interested in seeing and also a chance to see what other people are interested in seeing and if you like the ideas and you can sort of give me a thumbs up and if you dislike the ideas. I think they're bad ideas and

246 00:30:15.660 --> 00:30:20.370 Jaime Martinez: We can all kind of engage with each other in the process. So it's really cool.

247 00:30:21.120 --> 00:30:29.400 Jaime Martinez: You know, I, I've made this refrain, a few times but the the comprehensive plan, a plan really is the most consequential piece of planning.

248 00:30:29.790 --> 00:30:41.760 Jaime Martinez: That a municipality is going to do for the duration of that plan for us it's oh in over a decade. This is the most important thing that will be able to do because it really sets the framework for everything. We're going to do the next 10 years

249 00:30:42.810 --> 00:30:49.680 Jaime Martinez: So it's really important to get it right. It's really important to make sure that we're pushing for a plan that the community can support.

250 00:30:50.130 --> 00:30:58.350 Jaime Martinez: That we're pushing forward a plan that's viable that's actually going to yield us good results. So it's really important that people get engaged in the process.

251 00:31:02.430 --> 00:31:03.000 Jaime Martinez: Any questions.

252 00:31:09.510 --> 00:31:17.340 Adam Markovics: Yeah, I saw, I believe I saw some email correspondence. A few days ago, indicating that Catherine Wilson was

253 00:31:18.510 --> 00:31:24.030

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Adam Markovics: Going to be involved in this process in some way to, am I imagining that Catherine

254 00:31:26.220 --> 00:31:42.510 Catherine Wilson: Now, you're not imagine it, I got an email, just ask. Well, it was for. I thought it was for the whole all the members of the HBC but asking if I'd be willing to participate in a subcommittee of HTC members, um,

255 00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:50.340 Catherine Wilson: And I said, Yes, I'm available to participate in that. That's the, that's the extent of the

256 00:31:51.570 --> 00:31:53.550 Catherine Wilson: Communication I've gotten about it.

257 00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:00.360 Jaime Martinez: Um, well. Give me a second. Let me before I

258 00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:04.770 Jaime Martinez: I'm for stop before I say anything.

259 00:32:06.600 --> 00:32:07.740 Manuel Quezada: Yeah, go.

260 00:32:07.860 --> 00:32:09.390 Jaime Martinez: Ahead. I thought more people are getting in.

261 00:32:11.310 --> 00:32:23.040 Manuel Quezada: I believe because I had a conversation with a member to on Sony more, I believe that should be a minimum and I could we please have a correct me if I'm wrong, I believe was supposed to be at least two members.

262 00:32:23.670 --> 00:32:31.680 Manuel Quezada: From each board. I have not seen that email myself. That was probably an internal email that was sent out by Karen and behind me. Maybe, but

263 00:32:32.370 --> 00:32:32.940 Yeah.

264 00:32:34.110 --> 00:32:36.210

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Stephen Casey: She's email as well. And I know

265 00:32:36.660 --> 00:32:38.010 Stephen Casey: That I would be interested

266 00:32:38.970 --> 00:32:40.410 Jaime Martinez: I thought that all

267 00:32:41.790 --> 00:32:45.690 Jaime Martinez: I thought the whole hpcb has been added to the

268 00:32:46.890 --> 00:32:47.490 Jaime Martinez: Historic

269 00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:50.820 Jaime Martinez: The one for historic and cultural

270 00:32:51.390 --> 00:32:53.790 Jaime Martinez: I'm not sure. Maybe it is not the whole board but

271 00:32:54.360 --> 00:33:03.840 Jaime Martinez: I thought it was the entire he was going to be invited to engage in that process. I don't think there's not like there is no desire to limit the number of people who can engage in that process. I can tell you that right now.

272 00:33:04.320 --> 00:33:14.460 Jaime Martinez: The desire is to get as many people as possible. So if, if, if there are others who did not receive an email, then it could be that the email just hasn't gone out yet. It could be that the

273 00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:19.170 Jaime Martinez: That if it's not that the email hasn't gone out yet that

274 00:33:20.010 --> 00:33:30.510 Jaime Martinez: It bounced back. I know that you know on Friday last week. They were sending out emails like every five or 10 minutes but they're not the kind of thing where you can sort of like, do a

275 00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:44.880 Jaime Martinez: Like a blast. Everybody essentially their, their personal emails are going out to every individual and there's I mean between all

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the different subcommittees there was at least 100 people listen to our emails I have to go. So I have to check

276 00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:48.300 Jaime Martinez: But I can get an answer back

277 00:33:49.350 --> 00:33:53.820 Jaime Martinez: To everybody. Has anybody else besides Stephen and Catherine that one email.

278 00:33:54.210 --> 00:33:55.170 Jaime Martinez: Regards to engage in

279 00:33:55.350 --> 00:33:56.160 Jaime Martinez: You did Joyce.

280 00:33:56.460 --> 00:33:57.000 Joyce Cole: Yes, I did.

281 00:33:57.390 --> 00:33:59.160 Jaime Martinez: Okay. All right. Adam Did you

282 00:34:00.930 --> 00:34:02.430 Adam Markovics: I am not sure

283 00:34:03.150 --> 00:34:04.590 Jaime Martinez: Okay, all right, Phil. Did you

284 00:34:08.640 --> 00:34:10.410 Phil Faranda: Wouldn't have been sent to the village email.

285 00:34:10.980 --> 00:34:11.850 Jaime Martinez: It would have. Yeah.

286 00:34:12.390 --> 00:34:13.260 Phil Faranda: Who's the sender.

287 00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:14.850 Joyce Cole: Um,

288 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:18.330

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Jaime Martinez: It probably comes under the cover of Karen dettori

289 00:34:20.520 --> 00:34:25.560 Phil Faranda: Okay, going back to the middle of writing. Okay. No, I don't, I don't have anything

290 00:34:26.850 --> 00:34:33.210 Adam Markovics: Yeah, if it can't. If it came from Karen dettori. I don't think I received an email from, you know, Dr.

291 00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:36.060 Jaime Martinez: Jamie okay from Jamie

292 00:34:36.990 --> 00:34:38.970 Jaime Martinez: Yeah, okay. Jamie Hoffman, then

293 00:34:39.990 --> 00:34:41.160 Stephen Casey: Yes, yes.

294 00:34:41.250 --> 00:34:42.960 Joyce Cole: Amy game.

295 00:34:44.070 --> 00:34:44.670 Jaime Martinez: Me Cain.

296 00:34:45.630 --> 00:34:47.370 Joyce Cole: Yeah, okay. Yeah.

297 00:34:48.450 --> 00:34:50.490 Jaime Martinez: Yeah, all right, Lisa.

298 00:34:51.990 --> 00:34:55.920 Jaime Martinez: I thought I saw these emails go out last week on Friday, and it was

299 00:34:56.460 --> 00:34:57.960 Joyce Cole: Hot Topic.

300 00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:01.590 Jaime Martinez: Jamie Yeah, yeah, Jamie. Okay.

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00:35:02.970 --> 00:35:03.300 Stephen Casey: On

302 00:35:03.540 --> 00:35:10.500 Stephen Casey: May 15 15th may 15 yeah

303 00:35:14.700 --> 00:35:18.060 Phil Faranda: Well, I have something from Jimmy with the June agenda.

304 00:35:19.530 --> 00:35:30.150 Joyce Cole: That came again. On May 27th at 547 saying that she didn't hear back from us. So it must have been bouncing back to a lot

305 00:35:30.150 --> 00:35:35.940 Jaime Martinez: And now, yeah. That must be what it is, yeah, I've been seeing these maybe it was a Friday. It was once they've been, I've been seeing these emails.

306 00:35:36.990 --> 00:35:38.310 Stephen Casey: Yeah, there was a follow up.

307 00:35:38.640 --> 00:35:40.740 Jaime Martinez: Coming in bulk. Yeah, so

308 00:35:41.310 --> 00:35:41.640 Jaime Martinez: I

309 00:35:41.670 --> 00:35:45.660 Jaime Martinez: Get CC. I didn't get CC on every single one of them. So I'm not sure about all

310 00:35:47.490 --> 00:35:47.700 Jaime Martinez: The

311 00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:51.270 Stephen Casey: Email that I'm looking at. It's just it just has five names on it.

312 00:35:53.640 --> 00:35:54.900 Jaime Martinez: What five names are those

313 00:35:55.740 --> 00:36:04.080

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Stephen Casey: The cegb Wilson J Philip George co Julia Quinn and myself.

314 00:36:05.310 --> 00:36:06.720 Phil Faranda: And what email, they use for me.

315 00:36:07.560 --> 00:36:09.270 Catherine Wilson: Yeah, they use my Gmail.

316 00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:12.870 Catherine Wilson: And they used your I assume your business email.

317 00:36:14.190 --> 00:36:14.880 J fella.

318 00:36:20.580 --> 00:36:20.940 Stephen Casey: This is

319 00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:26.610 Manuel Quezada: Jaime we find following up with Jamie tomorrow and Karen.

320 00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:36.900 Manuel Quezada: To. Yeah. When is it trying to figure it out. I mean it guess my question will be, is any other member from the SPC will be interested in being part of this.

321 00:36:37.290 --> 00:36:45.060 Jaime Martinez: Yeah. Yeah, I will. Yeah, I will follow up, but I am pretty confident that all of you were invited or intended to be invited

322 00:36:45.150 --> 00:36:46.320 Phil Faranda: I have it and

323 00:36:47.550 --> 00:36:50.400 Phil Faranda: I don't know how it's blue under my radar, but

324 00:36:53.700 --> 00:36:55.770 Phil Faranda: It's from me or dirty.

325 00:36:57.150 --> 00:37:01.560 Phil Faranda: Well, it was sent by Jamie Hoffman, but it's it's fun, man.

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00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:02.640 Okay.

327 00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:07.770 Jaime Martinez: All right.

328 00:37:12.630 --> 00:37:13.380 Phil Faranda: Mr song.

329 00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:19.680 Adam Markovics: Yeah tic tac toe Manny's

330 00:37:22.200 --> 00:37:33.510 Adam Markovics: Remarks hi may, if you could get to the bottom of this email mystery and let us know, as you said, this is a very important

331 00:37:34.530 --> 00:37:47.130 Adam Markovics: Document for the future of land use in the village. And I think, you know, everyone on the HTC should have some level of involvement.

332 00:37:48.600 --> 00:37:48.960 Adam Markovics: Many

333 00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:50.010 Jaime Martinez: Yeah.

334 00:37:50.460 --> 00:37:59.730 Manuel Quezada: You know my recollection is way back when I was a member and HBC and we were doing their architectural guidelines, the whole war was

335 00:38:00.600 --> 00:38:14.310 Manuel Quezada: Was part of the review process, the whole the whole SPC was a very dumb component or what that means. So I will like obviously the SPC to be very involved in this process and the areas where

336 00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:34.230 Manuel Quezada: We are needed and you know we are looking at the whole overall the overall of the village. So I think it's important for for you guys to to actually be part of this whole process. So please hire me tomorrow or less, less for you, these out and get back to them as soon as possible, please.

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337 00:38:35.130 --> 00:38:44.670 Jaime Martinez: Yeah, and I think. Yeah, absolutely. I will do that. I will. I would know that, you know, um, I think we lost. Man, this man.

338 00:38:47.070 --> 00:38:49.620 Jaime Martinez: Oh no, we lost somebody maybe an. All right.

339 00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:51.870 Jaime Martinez: We'll just move your door bouncing around my screen.

340 00:38:53.700 --> 00:38:58.170 Jaime Martinez: Yeah I you know i've i've noticed in the short time that I've been here that Ossining really is.

341 00:38:59.970 --> 00:39:06.150 Jaime Martinez: The history of us need is really, I think, central in many ways to the culture of the community and so

342 00:39:07.530 --> 00:39:11.790 Jaime Martinez: You know, definitely the HTC should be very engaged in this process. I think it's

343 00:39:14.790 --> 00:39:16.260 Jaime Martinez: Like two and a half months I guess now.

344 00:39:16.890 --> 00:39:17.700 Phil Faranda: We're coming from

345 00:39:18.810 --> 00:39:22.800 Jaime Martinez: I'm work wise I was in Yonkers

346 00:39:26.310 --> 00:39:33.870 Jaime Martinez: I live in Yonkers as well. I'm not originally from here, but not originally from Yonkers either, but I've been here for. Okay, I've been in New York for 17 years

347 00:39:35.040 --> 00:39:38.010 Jaime Martinez: So I'm like, I'm like a lot of other New Yorkers. I moved here.

348 00:39:41.970 --> 00:39:47.790

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Jaime Martinez: Yeah, so I mean he asked me, it's definitely, I feel like the history of ass name is something that's really kind of a key piece to it.

349 00:39:49.380 --> 00:40:02.460 Jaime Martinez: And so it's something that I think everybody in the community. They speak to really treasures, the history of last name. So in that respect. It's really, you know, even I think more important that the HTC plays a big role in the comp plan.

350 00:40:05.010 --> 00:40:05.340 Stephen Casey: Okay.

351 00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:19.560 Adam Markovics: I'll just chime in, briefly, you know, this is a very strange time. Hi. May for you to be starting in this new position. You know, it's just really an insane time

352 00:40:21.300 --> 00:40:23.970 Adam Markovics: And you and I haven't had a chance to

353 00:40:25.080 --> 00:40:29.670 Adam Markovics: Speak much about what the HTC does and

354 00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:35.970 Adam Markovics: What we hope to achieve going forward. But let me just briefly say this

355 00:40:39.300 --> 00:40:49.410 Adam Markovics: The village has from a historic preservation perspective experienced a number of very painful episodes.

356 00:40:50.790 --> 00:40:55.500 Adam Markovics: Really over the last 30 years plus years.

357 00:40:56.520 --> 00:40:57.420 Adam Markovics: You have

358 00:40:58.470 --> 00:41:02.490 Adam Markovics: Behind you a picture of Main Street.

359 00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:05.580 Adam Markovics: And you'll note that

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360 00:41:05.640 --> 00:41:11.820 Adam Markovics: There's only one half of that street that exists the north side entire

361 00:41:13.620 --> 00:41:21.720 Adam Markovics: Which included buildings of comparable value were demolish torn down in the 60s and 70s.

362 00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:23.550 Adam Markovics: And then

363 00:41:24.720 --> 00:41:37.830 Adam Markovics: You know, fast forwarding through the years, and the decades, more and more historic buildings have been coming down as more and more pressure has come to bear on Ossining as a town.

364 00:41:39.030 --> 00:41:51.180 Adam Markovics: And, you know, real estate values have gone up and up and up. There's tremendous pressures for, you know, large residential developments to be built.

365 00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:58.590 Adam Markovics: Regardless of the historic context. Now architectural context.

366 00:42:01.050 --> 00:42:03.180 Adam Markovics: Without mentioning specifics

367 00:42:04.230 --> 00:42:11.340 Adam Markovics: There have been in my view some extremely unfortunate large scale developments in the village.

368 00:42:12.540 --> 00:42:24.810 Adam Markovics: That have served the interests of developers, rather than the community and if not at all been sensitive to the architectural and historic fabric of the Community.

369 00:42:25.980 --> 00:42:33.330 Adam Markovics: And most recently, and as was the subject of extensive discussion before the HTC

370 00:42:34.380 --> 00:42:37.230

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Adam Markovics: A national register listed landmark

371 00:42:38.910 --> 00:42:53.820 Adam Markovics: The Brandreth pill factory 19th century factory that had stood on the waterfront from 1860 to approximately what 2013 was demolished.

372 00:42:57.060 --> 00:42:59.430 Adam Markovics: In the interest of a developer who wanted to

373 00:43:00.870 --> 00:43:02.130 Adam Markovics: Add to the

374 00:43:03.330 --> 00:43:06.060 Adam Markovics: Villages housing stock by putting up another

375 00:43:07.200 --> 00:43:10.260 Adam Markovics: Large scale residential development.

376 00:43:11.940 --> 00:43:12.660 Adam Markovics: So,

377 00:43:14.820 --> 00:43:25.620 Adam Markovics: The pressures for development in Austin and at least up until the pandemic and you know I maybe now or another time to hear Phil's view about

378 00:43:26.460 --> 00:43:37.830 Adam Markovics: You know, hit, hit you know his take on what development is going to look like going forward. But in the lead up to this time the pressures have been enormous.

379 00:43:39.330 --> 00:43:41.700 Adam Markovics: To tear down and build up.

380 00:43:42.810 --> 00:43:43.500 Adam Markovics: And

381 00:43:44.700 --> 00:43:54.030 Adam Markovics: You know, HP see and Ossining, in my view, is really where the rubber hits the road for historic preservation. We're not a community like

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382 00:43:55.200 --> 00:44:11.460 Adam Markovics: You know Bedford or another affluent place that has a charming perfectly preserved just store core where everyone is in favor of keeping it the way it is. And there are, there is no pressure for large scale developments take place because the community wouldn't tolerate it.

383 00:44:12.810 --> 00:44:13.440 Adam Markovics: Here.

384 00:44:14.640 --> 00:44:16.260 Adam Markovics: You know, it's, it's

385 00:44:17.520 --> 00:44:18.900 Adam Markovics: It's where the pressures are

386 00:44:20.100 --> 00:44:28.770 Adam Markovics: And the pressures are intense and so it Historic Preservation Commission and Ossining really has its work cut out for it.

387 00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:32.730 Adam Markovics: In terms of saving buildings raising awareness.

388 00:44:34.410 --> 00:44:42.960 Adam Markovics: And that's what we're about. In a nutshell, and I'd leave it to any one of my very, very able colleagues.

389 00:44:43.590 --> 00:44:51.420 Adam Markovics: Newcomers included Joyce and Stephen, I know you're both passionate about historic preservation. You both have deep roots in this community.

390 00:44:52.350 --> 00:45:02.070 Adam Markovics: Please, if you'd like to chime in and just share your thoughts with high may, it may be useful. Considering we don't have any applicants in front of us.

391 00:45:06.630 --> 00:45:10.350 Adam Markovics: But now pressure. I mean I you know I did this was just off the cuff.

392 00:45:11.190 --> 00:45:17.010

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Stephen Casey: Right, one of the one of the charming things about this town is that view behind you there and

393 00:45:17.910 --> 00:45:31.590 Stephen Casey: The architecture that has been preserved. I live on Ellis place. I live in one of the three sisters. And one of the things that attracted us to this village was the Victorian architecture along the street.

394 00:45:33.060 --> 00:45:47.610 Stephen Casey: And you know, I really passionate about the importance of preserving this this kind of fabric, both for this this village and for the for the state and for the country.

395 00:45:50.490 --> 00:46:02.730 Stephen Casey: You know, the constant tearing down of sound building said that could in fact be repurpose to two other things with sometimes not even a lot of imagination.

396 00:46:04.620 --> 00:46:15.510 Stephen Casey: Developers as Adam said just find it easier just rip it down or what is it called demolition by neglect let it go so bad that that there is no other choice.

397 00:46:16.590 --> 00:46:30.780 Stephen Casey: But yeah, if the other side of that street is ever rebuilt it would be important to have that rebuilt in a way that's sensitive to the existing architecture along that street but it's what makes this village attractive and

398 00:46:31.830 --> 00:46:42.090 Stephen Casey: You know, I think a lot of us, known as Adam is pointing to that there is a lot of pressure to prices going up in Manhattan. Although, it'll be interesting to see how that develops now.

399 00:46:43.710 --> 00:46:49.740 Stephen Casey: Read that your real estate agents in Westchester are experiencing a 50% uptick

400 00:46:50.100 --> 00:46:53.250 Stephen Casey: In business, compared to last year.

401 00:46:54.840 --> 00:47:08.130 Stephen Casey: And I've talked to a few friends of mine work down in Manhattan winner are going nuts in their apartments and saying, you know,

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why am I living down here. So there may be maybe further pressure for housing and and and

402 00:47:09.210 --> 00:47:23.070 Stephen Casey: And people moving up. But I think it's important that any development that happens happens in a historically sensitive way and I mean you know somebody I read quickly while you were showing the that that idea board.

403 00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:44.370 Stephen Casey: You know john Cheever lived here it's, you know, something that could be recognized and remarked on but somebody like Sojourner Truth lived here for a number of years as well. Famous both abolitionists, and very, very vocal an early member of the women's rights movement.

404 00:47:46.080 --> 00:47:50.790 Stephen Casey: And, you know, things like that should be should be preserved.

405 00:47:51.900 --> 00:47:54.150 Stephen Casey: That might be an interesting idea for a marker in

406 00:47:54.150 --> 00:47:55.500 Stephen Casey: Fact that I'm thinking of

407 00:47:56.070 --> 00:48:03.150 Stephen Casey: Going to where she lived in the town and don't even offer house would still be here, but that would be an interesting thing, but

408 00:48:03.330 --> 00:48:09.810 Jaime Martinez: You know, you guys, I think, are both bring up kind of maybe a a useful opportunity in this meeting where there is no other

409 00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:28.320 Jaime Martinez: There's no other agenda item, you know, I really would be interested in hearing from everybody here. If you're willing to give me your two minute like spiel about, you know, what role you think HBC plays should play

410 00:48:30.150 --> 00:48:39.630 Jaime Martinez: And kind of where you see the direction of development for the village, as a whole, and asked me some questions. I, you know, we're just kind of getting to know each other.

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411 00:48:40.710 --> 00:48:42.960 Jaime Martinez: I've been working and planning for over a decade.

412 00:48:44.370 --> 00:48:53.130 Jaime Martinez: So if you have any questions about me or my experience or my opinion on things I'd be, you know, we're happy to share it with you. I've worked as a planning, Commissioner, I've worked

413 00:48:53.790 --> 00:48:56.430 Jaime Martinez: For the last three and a half years I was running the Yonkers

414 00:48:56.790 --> 00:48:58.440 Jaime Martinez: Downtown Business Improvement District

415 00:49:00.540 --> 00:49:12.660 Jaime Martinez: I went to NYU and got my degree in urban planning and graduate in 2007 so I have, you know, I have some experience that perhaps you may be interested in hearing about but I'm really interested in hearing about

416 00:49:14.430 --> 00:49:17.940 Jaime Martinez: About you, and a little bit about how you see the direction of this

417 00:49:19.110 --> 00:49:26.880 Jaime Martinez: Condition moving forward and kind of, you know what, you know, has been successful in the past and what you'd like to see more of him.

418 00:49:27.930 --> 00:49:29.190 Jaime Martinez: how things should be approached so

419 00:49:30.780 --> 00:49:39.720 Joyce Cole: Heidi. I just would like to add with Adam was saying, My family is does have very deep roots. We've been here since the late 1800s.

420 00:49:41.580 --> 00:50:07.800 Joyce Cole: And obviously our lesson here, but I did through my research saw the evolution of Ossining and progression is good, but not at the expense of the integrity of this beautiful charming small town that we have and yes developments are nice.

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421 00:50:09.270 --> 00:50:25.680 Joyce Cole: But we live in a small town. I think we enjoy that. That's charming and that it's small and that you know we should be moving forward, but really not at the expense of this charming. Beautiful. We have

422 00:50:36.990 --> 00:50:38.010 Jaime Martinez: I think we lost Joyce.

423 00:50:39.570 --> 00:50:40.410 Phil Faranda: Oh, she froze up

424 00:50:40.770 --> 00:50:41.580 Jaime Martinez: She froze up on me.

425 00:50:43.980 --> 00:50:44.310 Jaime Martinez: Yeah.

426 00:50:46.080 --> 00:50:47.040 Phil Faranda: Deep roster.

427 00:50:48.330 --> 00:50:50.790 Jaime Martinez: All right, Phil, Katherine. Would you

428 00:50:51.180 --> 00:50:51.450 Jaime Martinez: Hear me

429 00:50:52.380 --> 00:50:53.850 Jaime Martinez: Yeah, I can hear you. Yes, we have.

430 00:50:53.850 --> 00:50:54.300 Phil Faranda: Per second.

431 00:50:54.330 --> 00:50:55.830 Jaime Martinez: You lost your video, but we can hear you.

432 00:50:58.920 --> 00:50:59.160 Jaime Martinez: Oh,

433 00:50:59.550 --> 00:51:00.330 Did we lose her again.

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434 00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:06.060 Phil Faranda: We'd better Wi Fi.

435 00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:07.470 Joyce Cole: Am I here.

436 00:51:08.220 --> 00:51:12.120 Jaime Martinez: Better Wi Fi and as me. Yeah. Yeah, I can hear you just

437 00:51:15.990 --> 00:51:16.980 Jaime Martinez: Do you want to go here.

438 00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:18.150 Jaime Martinez: Yeah, I

439 00:51:18.780 --> 00:51:21.180 Joyce Cole: Heard your anything I said

440 00:51:21.660 --> 00:51:24.930 Jaime Martinez: I na by the first 30 seconds.

441 00:51:25.350 --> 00:51:26.400 Phil Faranda: Integrity of the village.

442 00:51:27.900 --> 00:51:39.750 Joyce Cole: Yeah, so that back all up is is just that my family's been here since the late 1800s and just seeing through the history and following it.

443 00:51:40.080 --> 00:51:51.750 Joyce Cole: It has been a great evolution of Ossining and the developments are. I love looking at that picture behind you, because it's the same integrity, we have with some upgrades and that's beautiful.

444 00:51:52.050 --> 00:52:02.100 Joyce Cole: But just bursting at the seams Ossining is not attractive to me. I love living in a charming beautiful small town, and that's what it is. So,

445 00:52:02.520 --> 00:52:15.750

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Joyce Cole: I think we should be staying in line with that making improvements on the beautiful architecture we have and not trying to change what's not broken. It's not broken. It's beautiful.

446 00:52:23.520 --> 00:52:23.940 Jaime Martinez: Thank you.

447 00:52:26.190 --> 00:52:27.330 Jaime Martinez: Film gathering

448 00:52:30.720 --> 00:52:31.800 Phil Faranda: I think that the

449 00:52:33.330 --> 00:52:36.690 Phil Faranda: Original Senate, a village is that we've destroyed too many

450 00:52:37.710 --> 00:52:38.550 Phil Faranda: Significant building

451 00:52:40.080 --> 00:52:42.660 Phil Faranda: So the south side of Main Street that Adam referred to

452 00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:44.400 Phil Faranda: The

453 00:52:45.660 --> 00:52:50.940 Phil Faranda: Where market square now sits was the starling building, which was a Art Deco 30s era.

454 00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:54.150 Phil Faranda: Beautiful building and it's just

455 00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:57.990 Phil Faranda: It's just a shame that it it's gone.

456 00:53:00.570 --> 00:53:01.020 Phil Faranda: So,

457 00:53:02.220 --> 00:53:07.320 Phil Faranda: I mean, we've got a pretty now per view preserving historically significant

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458 00:53:08.370 --> 00:53:08.880 Phil Faranda: Structures.

459 00:53:10.200 --> 00:53:13.350 Phil Faranda: And sometimes we get pushback.

460 00:53:14.520 --> 00:53:20.880 Phil Faranda: People think we're overstepping our reach, or that we're flexing our muscles for the sake of flexing them. We had a

461 00:53:22.530 --> 00:53:23.460 Phil Faranda: very unpleasant.

462 00:53:27.510 --> 00:53:35.700 Phil Faranda: Set of meetings with the condo on Spring Street, where the Wardens wardens house was is

463 00:53:37.140 --> 00:53:37.530 Phil Faranda: And

464 00:53:41.130 --> 00:53:43.920 Phil Faranda: There's pushback from time to time, so

465 00:53:46.860 --> 00:53:58.920 Phil Faranda: That's where I see the purview. I don't know that we really get a vote on new development, unless it actually affects six starkly designated or historically significant

466 00:54:00.060 --> 00:54:04.800 Phil Faranda: Structures, there was a reference earlier today about market square

467 00:54:07.500 --> 00:54:09.030 Phil Faranda: I wasn't sure if it is

468 00:54:09.900 --> 00:54:13.650 Jaime Martinez: So new developments. Yeah, you would in certain instances you might

469 00:54:15.600 --> 00:54:25.290

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Jaime Martinez: You might not get it referred to correctly but historic preservation, depending on the type of the development and the size of the development, it goes through a long form AF process.

470 00:54:26.250 --> 00:54:35.970 Jaime Martinez: It doesn't have to consider the impact on surrounding properties if those properties are story then you know that has to be considered as a part of the

471 00:54:36.660 --> 00:54:52.710 Jaime Martinez: environmental review process. I'm not sure whether or not that necessarily go to the HTC. I'm not sure that necessarily should go to the HP PC, but certainly if there are historic resources that are going to be an impact are going to be impacted by

472 00:54:53.820 --> 00:55:04.950 Jaime Martinez: You know, new development where you think there needs to be some additional consideration given in those developments, then you may want to bring it up. I think that, you know, there are

473 00:55:06.090 --> 00:55:15.540 Jaime Martinez: There are decisions that are made every day and in the development of buildings to to try to make them, you know, more contextual

474 00:55:16.500 --> 00:55:31.200 Jaime Martinez: To what's going on in Everett. So you may have, you know, old you know neighborhoods that were built in the early 1900s, and then a new building needs to pop up. And so you can sort of get involved in process to help design a building.

475 00:55:32.250 --> 00:55:36.360 Jaime Martinez: That maybe looks like it's a little bit more context with what's going on.

476 00:55:37.500 --> 00:55:47.640 Jaime Martinez: I think there are challenges inherent in doing that. I think that, you know, there's a building on Main Street in Ossining that it looks like there was some attempt to make it

477 00:55:48.570 --> 00:55:57.900 Jaime Martinez: look kind of contextual. It doesn't look to me like it's very contextual, it looks like the colors are kind of contextual to brick face building next

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00:56:00.270 --> 00:56:04.110 Jaime Martinez: I think it's on the screen here. I think it's kind of nice to see it right over here.

479 00:56:04.410 --> 00:56:05.340 Phil Faranda: You'll see the screen.

480 00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:07.740 Jaime Martinez: The background picture.

481 00:56:09.120 --> 00:56:10.080 Jaime Martinez: You see the background picture.

482 00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:13.260 Phil Faranda: Is it worth the the vegan restaurant is

483 00:56:13.680 --> 00:56:22.650 Jaime Martinez: Yeah, I say over here, I think, or something like that, they they converted a maybe I'm maybe I'm thinking about it incorrectly or maybe it's on the other side of street but it's, um,

484 00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:27.240 Jaime Martinez: Yeah, it was. It's a new building.

485 00:56:27.420 --> 00:56:27.930 Phil Faranda: Well, it's

486 00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:29.250 Jaime Martinez: probably five or 10 years and

487 00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:32.730 Phil Faranda: I know the building. We all, we all know the building.

488 00:56:32.940 --> 00:56:38.220 Jaime Martinez: And so I think that there there should always be consideration when you're doing that, but there are other areas.

489 00:56:39.150 --> 00:56:48.510 Jaime Martinez: Where new developments, I think, are under consideration and maybe you know one of the comments that the board may want to give on some of these new developments, especially if they're going to be like small

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490 00:56:49.980 --> 00:56:57.480 Jaime Martinez: infill housing on blocks that aren't necessarily considered historic but do have a preponderance of

491 00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:05.370 Jaime Martinez: older homes, you know, HBC providing common remember our members of HBC providing comment to say like, hey,

492 00:57:05.700 --> 00:57:15.060 Jaime Martinez: You know, you're going to put a new house here in new development of townhouses here instead of just putting in with this metal facing and kind of ugly, you know,

493 00:57:15.630 --> 00:57:23.340 Jaime Martinez: Stuff that you're seeing a lot of these days. I don't know if you've seen the metal panel and they're putting on a lot of these new buildings, instead of doing that they have hardy board.

494 00:57:24.090 --> 00:57:31.530 Jaime Martinez: Panels that can go up on buildings that look, you know, architecturally significant they fit in with the Victorian style of buildings. Right.

495 00:57:32.100 --> 00:57:39.180 Jaime Martinez: So if you say, look, we have this older housing stock. We don't want people to tear down hundred year old homes. THEY'RE STILL GREAT, GREAT homes.

496 00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:55.140 Jaime Martinez: We do realize there needs to be some infill so where the infield takes place. Let's try to put homes in that are contextual and consistent with that. And so in that sense, even though things are not be presented to you because it's not in a main street district. There are other areas.

497 00:57:56.610 --> 00:58:09.090 Jaime Martinez: That I think that you could say, look, we, we know it's not technically Historic District because too much of that character has changed over time. But enough of it, it remains that new buildings. They come in and should be architecturally

498 00:58:10.110 --> 00:58:20.940 Jaime Martinez: Contextual and that they're going to sort of enhanced going on there, rather than being so starkly different that it takes away, especially when if nothing else.

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499 00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:31.740 Jaime Martinez: You consider the sort of the level of quality that some of these old houses were made with 100 years ago they were made to last 100 years and the quality of some of these new houses sometimes

500 00:58:33.030 --> 00:58:35.610 Jaime Martinez: is reflective of property that supposed to last 30 years

501 00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:38.430 Jaime Martinez: And I see it. I see it in my neighborhood. I live.

502 00:58:38.940 --> 00:58:52.830 Jaime Martinez: And 110 year old Victorian house, my block is a designated historic landmark, but it's not like all of the other houses and neighbors aren't old they're just not in the landmark. So some of the new stuff the infield stuff that's getting put in

503 00:58:54.060 --> 00:59:03.510 Jaime Martinez: It's just, it's not only is it not contextual, which I don't think it necessarily asked me, but it's not even a comparable quality so

504 00:59:04.560 --> 00:59:15.240 Jaime Martinez: It creates challenges in the community. It makes this sort of patchwork of housing styles, the setbacks are different. Right. So everybody else has a setback have a certain amount in the street, and these are right on the street right so

505 00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:29.580 Jaime Martinez: Those are other kinds of I think problems that should be considered when new developments come in and again. So the HTC can play a role in that, and helping to guide that because everything that everyone is described here I think is about the love Ossining as a village.

506 00:59:29.670 --> 00:59:30.600 Jaime Martinez: And part of what

507 00:59:30.780 --> 00:59:45.690 Jaime Martinez: To me that you know makes me feel like I'm in a village and I'm in a place where it's got a community and a sense of place is that it has some sort of consistency and what it is. And that doesn't mean that every house has the same

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00:59:46.950 --> 00:59:55.110 Jaime Martinez: I think what it means is there's a consistency and the level of quality that you have out there, right. I don't know if any of you've ever traveled to Latin America.

509 00:59:55.770 --> 01:00:03.840 Jaime Martinez: Um, I lived in Mexico for six months. My father's from Mexico and in Latin America, you'll see a mansion next to a shanty

510 01:00:04.680 --> 01:00:12.960 Jaime Martinez: Right. There's the lack of consistency. A lot of times in Latin America because the protection, the zoning laws. They don't necessarily exist in the same way.

511 01:00:13.620 --> 01:00:23.130 Jaime Martinez: They do in in the United States. And so I think that one way that you sort of build community through the development of housing is as new projects come online.

512 01:00:23.460 --> 01:00:34.860 Jaime Martinez: You try to keep them at a level of quality is consistent with with what the community expects because if you don't engage in that process. You know, you're going to get what you get a lot of times, so

513 01:00:39.120 --> 01:00:40.110 Jaime Martinez: That's my two cents.

514 01:00:42.990 --> 01:00:49.920 Manuel Quezada: So I wanted to piggyback on a little bit of what Philip was referring them. We actually on the board always

515 01:00:50.670 --> 01:01:01.740 Manuel Quezada: Was a member of the board. We used to call it that we can do a space, which used to be a village on parking lot there that are a couple years back your soul to a developer

516 01:01:02.190 --> 01:01:13.440 Manuel Quezada: And one of the intense time my briefly recollection on the HBC level because he wasn't ball and this critical and Belden arm. It was no really to replicate.

517 01:01:14.820 --> 01:01:20.370 Manuel Quezada: Any story details. It was more like to compliment the district itself.

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518 01:01:21.030 --> 01:01:33.870 Manuel Quezada: So that's one thing that I REMEMBER WHEN JOHN toll and Deborah Bernstein going over some of the details at that time and Miguel Hernandez and all the past board members on HBC where

519 01:01:34.290 --> 01:01:45.540 Manuel Quezada: We, you know, and especially, you know, if you, if you look at not know gone too far. If you go to New York City, you'll find in or as small pieces of history.

520 01:01:45.990 --> 01:02:04.320 Manuel Quezada: Baron between glass builders arm or barrier between this new before Story Size, but this this an element that kind of ties back into the history and also I think that was one of the things that the HBC by

521 01:02:05.430 --> 01:02:11.640 Manuel Quezada: That time and even when we're going to the architectural guidelines we always were interested in

522 01:02:12.780 --> 01:02:28.800 Manuel Quezada: You know, we knew at that time that you know the sad part of mainstream was never going to be a historic district. We know that. But we wanted to make sure that that all the side whenever that gets developed it has to complement the story portion of it.

523 01:02:29.880 --> 01:02:44.700 Manuel Quezada: So that was one of the days that I'm if some of the warm members. I'm not sure if they have data yet. Or maybe they should, at some point, and I want to say 2013 2014

524 01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:56.190 Manuel Quezada: We did it. We did do a study of a massive study on now. What could we have on those empty lots, you know, um,

525 01:02:56.610 --> 01:03:05.100 Manuel Quezada: And again, that was very conceptual. It was nothing. It was more like you know what if this will happen. Haha. Hi, can we go

526 01:03:05.670 --> 01:03:14.070 Manuel Quezada: You know what company Eunice. Can we have it was very conceptual is just literally I want to call it a massive study on that point. So,

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01:03:14.790 --> 01:03:18.780 Manuel Quezada: That kind of development at some point of time. I don't know when.

528 01:03:19.770 --> 01:03:28.590 Manuel Quezada: That may be happening there. So I want to make sure that you know as we go through the process of the comp plan in a dad area we always talked about

529 01:03:29.310 --> 01:03:36.180 Manuel Quezada: A couple years back and SPC probably Adam, you may remember this, I always said you know we should create some sort of an overlay.

530 01:03:37.110 --> 01:03:54.480 Manuel Quezada: That will kind of, I don't want to separate tax but kind of complements the story district of that area, you know, be possible Arm and Hammer. You brought out bomb Mexico. I'm not sure, but an Ecuador where I'm from.

531 01:03:56.190 --> 01:04:10.890 Manuel Quezada: This I actually, I live in a story district where actually they're very protective of what they have. And now the highest building in there is the municipal building, which is about four stories high and is a very colonial

532 01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:29.280 Manuel Quezada: Building, but it again, there's all the areas. Now they have develop and they're like 10 stories 15 stories high. What is interesting and Ecuador, is that and the keto is two districts, the column, the new Quito and the old keto

533 01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:30.540 Stephen Casey: And

534 01:04:30.630 --> 01:04:38.670 Manuel Quezada: What is a total different, you know, you go to the mall portion of of the capital and you see

535 01:04:40.290 --> 01:04:54.030 Manuel Quezada: gorgeous buildings that have been preserved and then you go to the new portion is totally different. You know, there's two different characters obviously in different countries in different parts of the world are different. But, you know, we, um,

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01:04:55.410 --> 01:05:00.420 Jaime Martinez: My father is from maybe them, which is not not quite as big as keep though, I don't think. Yeah.

537 01:05:00.660 --> 01:05:05.070 Jaime Martinez: Maybe and Yucatan, and Mexico. And there's about a million people there and

538 01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:08.640 Jaime Martinez: It has like a Zona

539 01:05:09.690 --> 01:05:21.150 Jaime Martinez: Have a solo, which is like the central in Mexico is the central square and you have the governor's mansion, you have like the digital and you have. That's where all the main stuff.

540 01:05:22.140 --> 01:05:29.430 Jaime Martinez: Because of the ASR based, things like that. That's there's a little historic part but once you get out of that it gets a little

541 01:05:30.300 --> 01:05:38.910 Jaime Martinez: kind of up in the air. It's all dependent on how much money the individual property owners. I think the houses so they all kind of started out the same small box and

542 01:05:40.200 --> 01:05:55.110 Manuel Quezada: This is very interesting history and so calm, very, very long way, but kind of going back to what HBC role, I think, you know, hopefully by tomorrow. Hi. May be able to clarify the emails that have been going back and forth.

543 01:05:56.130 --> 01:06:04.560 Manuel Quezada: I think me personally, I think the HTC has a big role to play on under you know under participation for the comp plan.

544 01:06:05.610 --> 01:06:23.460 Manuel Quezada: Because we do want to keep you know we want to preserve the history on this is the village of arson and as you know what, that's what a lot of people come you know that they're being an attractive to to what the different characters are here in our village. So if is a

545 01:06:24.540 --> 01:06:33.480 Manuel Quezada: House, the colonial style of is the downtown. The very story districts in what is there. What has more format.

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546 01:06:34.380 --> 01:06:48.060 Manuel Quezada: We have a lot of history. And I think we need to preserve the history, um, you know, and I think, again, basically see definitely should be a member is all the members to be very, very involved in what the process could be and should be

547 01:06:50.100 --> 01:06:51.480 Jaime Martinez: Catherine, did you wanna

548 01:06:53.100 --> 01:06:58.830 Catherine Wilson: Yeah, I, I would love the HP PC to be involved in

549 01:07:00.210 --> 01:07:18.090 Catherine Wilson: Protecting some of the buildings, especially along the waterfront that have amazing potential to be used for the community not you know for private use be snatched up by a developer to make into luxury condos. There's something

550 01:07:19.170 --> 01:07:21.510 Catherine Wilson: There are opportunities there to really

551 01:07:22.650 --> 01:07:30.510 Catherine Wilson: Use what we have and for theater for community like for youth.

552 01:07:32.460 --> 01:07:33.780 Catherine Wilson: Centers and

553 01:07:35.010 --> 01:07:36.270 community centers and

554 01:07:38.190 --> 01:07:40.650 Catherine Wilson: Theatre opportunity. There's just I'm

555 01:07:41.670 --> 01:07:58.050 Catherine Wilson: A drive by those buildings and I'm just filled with terror that something's gonna happen to them. And I would love the HBC to to point that out to the village and to really try to make that happen. That would be something I'd love to see

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Jaime Martinez: Are these properties that are currently owned by the village or they have hobbies, they're currently privately owned

557 01:08:04.440 --> 01:08:07.920 Catherine Wilson: I don't know enough i i know

558 01:08:08.940 --> 01:08:24.810 Catherine Wilson: Yeah, I really don't know how to speak to that. But there's some, I don't know. That's what I guess I'd like to look into. I just feel like what we've been through things can sort of happen overnight. And that's left

559 01:08:26.010 --> 01:08:36.900 Catherine Wilson: A bad taste in our mouth for, you know, we have to be proactive about protecting places because we don't always know what's going on. I guess you know with

560 01:08:37.620 --> 01:08:51.090 Catherine Wilson: Sales, so I don't know enough about it. But, uh, but I just, I'd like to not learn more about it. And it seems like this would be the time to learn more about it and to put the idea into the village, you know, mayor and the trustees and everyone

561 01:08:52.170 --> 01:09:00.150 Catherine Wilson: That would be a good opportunity, I think, to tie the community and the history and the architecture and the waterfront.

562 01:09:01.620 --> 01:09:01.980 Catherine Wilson: And

563 01:09:03.450 --> 01:09:05.760 Catherine Wilson: Is there. I don't know, hopefully.

564 01:09:15.030 --> 01:09:16.020 Jaime Martinez: Any questions for me.

565 01:09:21.150 --> 01:09:29.940 Adam Markovics: Thank you. Catherine and thank you everyone. Thank you. Manny, and Phil Joyce and Stephen for your comments. Oh, sorry, I'm in the darkness will try my best.

566 01:09:31.410 --> 01:09:34.500 Adam Markovics: I'll just add two things and wrap it up.

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567 01:09:37.620 --> 01:09:47.700 Adam Markovics: You know, Jaime, I think you'll find that this is a pretty reasonable pragmatic group of people

568 01:09:49.380 --> 01:10:02.550 Adam Markovics: You know, HP sees elsewhere are some of the most disparaged land use commissions and in their respective communities. And that's because they they are

569 01:10:03.420 --> 01:10:20.400 Adam Markovics: Or have a reputation for being elitist for being fixated on keeping precious little details in place and freezing all development that no matter what cost. And that's not this HP see

570 01:10:21.720 --> 01:10:22.530 Adam Markovics: I think

571 01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:35.640 Adam Markovics: We, as I said, have suffered some really terrible blows and in in terms of not just the loss of buildings, but also the the

572 01:10:37.650 --> 01:10:39.690 Adam Markovics: The proliferation really

573 01:10:44.970 --> 01:10:55.650 Adam Markovics: Really a insensitive structures. Some of what you've actually fallen off there. There are lots there so

574 01:10:56.970 --> 01:11:01.140 Adam Markovics: We as a village need to be paying

575 01:11:02.520 --> 01:11:12.900 Adam Markovics: closer attention to these large scale developments that there's a tremendous amount of pressure to have built up on this precious waterfront.

576 01:11:14.610 --> 01:11:18.660 Adam Markovics: Property of errors and make sure that they are

577 01:11:20.340 --> 01:11:24.570 Adam Markovics: Historically sensitive and that doesn't mean mimicking

578

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01:11:25.980 --> 01:11:27.780 Adam Markovics: 19th century buildings.

579 01:11:29.820 --> 01:11:34.590 Adam Markovics: Architectural guidelines and I echo the sentiment.

580 01:11:35.790 --> 01:11:38.430 Adam Markovics: That articulated in them. I think they're from

581 01:11:40.290 --> 01:11:42.900 Adam Markovics: Me objective of

582 01:11:44.790 --> 01:11:54.420 Adam Markovics: Responsible development from a historic preservation standpoint is not mimicry, but sensitivity.

583 01:11:55.530 --> 01:12:14.850 Adam Markovics: And one shining example, in my view, I speak only for myself is our library, which, by the way, replaced a you know a pretty interesting building a historic building a Carnegie Library. But what what was put in its place in my view is a tremendous achievement.

584 01:12:16.590 --> 01:12:32.970 Adam Markovics: From, from a historic preservation standpoint because it blends again in my view seamlessly, even though it's, you know, super modern and glass and metal and all that, in its scale in its proportions, it, it fits in.

585 01:12:34.650 --> 01:12:52.650 Adam Markovics: And I think that's what everyone in this Commission would like to see moving forward moving forward. I think this Commission might appreciate a greater and perhaps more formal role to play in architectural review right now our planning.

586 01:12:54.150 --> 01:13:06.480 Adam Markovics: Board and the architectural review board are one in the same. And it would be interesting if HTC had a more formal role to play, when

587 01:13:08.040 --> 01:13:20.460 Adam Markovics: Projects come up that either directly affect a building that say older than 50 years or that are Jason two buildings that are older than 50 years or 60 years

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01:13:21.630 --> 01:13:31.410 Adam Markovics: So those are the two points I wanted to add to everyone else's comments Jaime again to sum up this HBC

589 01:13:32.340 --> 01:13:45.810 Adam Markovics: As I understand it is is not in favor of freezing things in place anti development, everything has to look the way it looked in the 19th century, no matter what. I don't think that's this HTC

590 01:13:46.260 --> 01:13:57.030 Adam Markovics: And that's certainly not what choice meant by her comments. I mean, she she wants you know the character and a sense of this place the history of this place preserved.

591 01:13:58.350 --> 01:14:13.620 Adam Markovics: And in addition, I wanted to add that I know in the past, there had been some talk of expanding HP sees roles role or, you know, maybe expanding its advisory relationship with

592 01:14:13.650 --> 01:14:18.180 Adam Markovics: The architectural review board I for one would be in favor of that.

593 01:14:19.530 --> 01:14:25.410 Adam Markovics: So that's, that's it. That's my piece. And please, if anyone else wants to add anything, do so but

594 01:14:26.730 --> 01:14:29.310 Jaime Martinez: I had, I do have a follow up question to that comment.

595 01:14:29.520 --> 01:14:43.110 Jaime Martinez: Could ask it. So, you know, I've heard that there are two separate components of what the HBC does and the role, I think that you see that the HTC deals. One is the identification.

596 01:14:44.460 --> 01:15:02.130 Jaime Martinez: And preservation of existing historic properties in districts in the village. The other is the review of proposals to help make sure that they are sensitive to the historic districts within which they're being built around which they're being built.

597 01:15:03.030 --> 01:15:04.440 Jaime Martinez: Those things

598

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01:15:04.860 --> 01:15:06.570 Adam Markovics: The ladder is, it is not

599 01:15:09.330 --> 01:15:10.980 Adam Markovics: It is not something that

600 01:15:12.030 --> 01:15:21.600 Adam Markovics: Has been sort of formalized in in Section 270 25 of the code, we don't we don't have automatic

601 01:15:24.480 --> 01:15:29.700 Adam Markovics: Authority, certainly, or even automatic sort of referral or advisory

602 01:15:30.900 --> 01:15:48.630 Adam Markovics: Powers when historically sensitive areas or projects are involved. So I for one would advocate and more robust role for the HP CM Atlanta marketing is hard business. We've really been through the wringer trying to get it done.

603 01:15:49.740 --> 01:15:59.460 Adam Markovics: And I think it would be useful to the community if advocates for historic preservation were involved in the process.

604 01:16:00.900 --> 01:16:07.200 Adam Markovics: Where historically sensitive, but not landmarks or landmark district properties are involved.

605 01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:10.170 Adam Markovics: And that could be an interesting

606 01:16:11.370 --> 01:16:24.390 Adam Markovics: Thing to include in the comprehensive plan, you know, the HTC is relatively young, I'm not talking about the membership, but the actual body. I think it did come out of the last comprehensive plan, it'd be interesting if

607 01:16:25.500 --> 01:16:29.340 Adam Markovics: It's authorities were were expanded in in in the new one.

608 01:16:31.740 --> 01:16:43.950 Adam Markovics: And hi mail also add this you know there was a feeling I didn't so much feel this in my time on the HBC but there is a real feeling among some, some of the previous generation that the HTC

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609 01:16:44.790 --> 01:17:01.380 Adam Markovics: Was the last to find out about significant projects in the village that might have an effect on historic properties, even if not landmark but properties of historic interest.

610 01:17:02.460 --> 01:17:05.280 Adam Markovics: And you know, I would suggest that

611 01:17:06.450 --> 01:17:15.510 Adam Markovics: As planning director, one of the useful roles you could play is being a facilitator of communication and

612 01:17:16.350 --> 01:17:29.340 Adam Markovics: Change between the various land use boards quick example 65 Main Street, there's this all crumbling red brick building that is not part of the

613 01:17:30.090 --> 01:17:45.690 Adam Markovics: Main Street historic district and a from everything I can see a sensitive sort of historically minded preservation minded developer purchased it, and is planning to redevelop it into I think some housing in a restaurant.

614 01:17:47.100 --> 01:17:47.790 Adam Markovics: And

615 01:17:49.860 --> 01:18:02.700 Adam Markovics: You know HTC was not involved in any way in participating in the planning board process or the or I don't know if it's gone to architectural review board yet but I

616 01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:06.720 Jaime Martinez: Never be the same. So yeah, car and planning for the same board. So yes, it has

617 01:18:08.070 --> 01:18:23.880 Adam Markovics: So, you know, in if I had my way, I would say, with a property like that. That is literally just over the border of the historic Main Street district. Um, it really would be nice if HTC were

618 01:18:25.770 --> 01:18:48.060 Adam Markovics: And if, if the planning department could let HTC know about such such projects you know i happen to get wind of it and I

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attended one meeting and I was pleased with what I saw. Again, I'm speaking for myself, not the HP PC, but as as planning director, I think would be a very useful function.

619 01:18:49.170 --> 01:19:04.050 Adam Markovics: You know, at least until our expand our Paris or expanded perhaps under this comprehensive plan in the works. But until such time i think i think you. Hi, I'm a consumer useful function.

620 01:19:05.670 --> 01:19:15.030 Adam Markovics: And you know as an intermediary and facilitator of communication about projects that the HTC might find worth knowing about

621 01:19:17.280 --> 01:19:25.500 Jaime Martinez: Um, yeah, I think we, you know, one of the things I spoke with the board of trustees about last week in this is kind of coming up as a part of the EIC

622 01:19:26.250 --> 01:19:31.710 Jaime Martinez: Work with wetlands process, but it's, it's, you know, for me, I think one of the most important things that the

623 01:19:32.220 --> 01:19:42.510 Jaime Martinez: You know the planning of the building department can do is really make sure that when applications come in when developers or homeowner to whoever it is come in and they want to get a project done that.

624 01:19:43.590 --> 01:19:51.150 Jaime Martinez: That you know city that village staff takes the project seriously takes their investment. Seriously, does the

625 01:19:51.960 --> 01:20:02.010 Jaime Martinez: Does the review as quickly as possible, but at the same time is as thorough as can be. And so if we if we start a process where we kind of send them to one board and then we

626 01:20:02.460 --> 01:20:12.090 Jaime Martinez: Know that board looks at it for a few months. And I said, oh, maybe we should send this other board and that other board gets look at it and eventually a process that if everyone had been notified early on that needed to be notified.

627 01:20:13.710 --> 01:20:23.340

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Jaime Martinez: The process could have taken you know three months or four months instead the process strikes out to a year because all of the players weren't brought in to the discussion.

628 01:20:23.760 --> 01:20:30.630 Jaime Martinez: When they should have been. And part of that is the intake process. Part of the problem is with the intake process in the planning department.

629 01:20:31.260 --> 01:20:45.750 Jaime Martinez: So we're looking to amend that process to have something that works better for everyone involved, including the person who has their money on the line as the investment online but also all of the boards, because, you know, just like

630 01:20:47.880 --> 01:20:58.590 Jaime Martinez: I think everybody comes in. He wants to have their piece heard. I think a lot of investors are really amenable to making changes in the second month of the process that

631 01:20:59.640 --> 01:21:13.500 Jaime Martinez: They're a little bit more frustrated by it, the eighth month of the process because they've already invested a significant amount of money, developing a vision paying lots of, you know, people to develop a vision that was

632 01:21:13.710 --> 01:21:16.110 Jaime Martinez: An okay up until that point you have you

633 01:21:16.230 --> 01:21:21.480 Stephen Casey: Know your bullets. If we were brought in earlier rather than later. And then can can weigh in and

634 01:21:22.410 --> 01:21:23.520 Jaime Martinez: It just makes the whole drive

635 01:21:23.610 --> 01:21:28.530 Stephen Casey: Review two points, Mexico processes here and beneficial to both sides. Yeah.

636 01:21:29.970 --> 01:21:31.980 Stephen Casey: Yeah, I have to run

637 01:21:33.060 --> 01:21:36.150

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Stephen Casey: But this has been a very good Roundtable.

638 01:21:37.290 --> 01:21:39.840 Stephen Casey: You should do more of this. Oh.

639 01:21:41.340 --> 01:21:47.520 Jaime Martinez: Sorry, as I kept everybody here longer than they anticipated on being here, it was worthwhile having this conversation.

640 01:21:50.130 --> 01:21:53.250 Stephen Casey: Okay. Alright, see you next month. Good night stay safe.

641 01:21:53.730 --> 01:21:56.310 Adam Markovics: Thank you. Thank you for your participation.

642 01:22:00.330 --> 01:22:00.720 Jaime Martinez: Or

643 01:22:05.850 --> 01:22:06.150 Jaime Martinez: OK.

644 01:22:07.350 --> 01:22:07.860 Jaime Martinez: Back to you.

645 01:22:09.180 --> 01:22:17.370 Adam Markovics: That's it. Um, yeah, I wasn't expecting the meeting to go this long but i think i think our time has been well spent.

646 01:22:18.690 --> 01:22:27.480 Adam Markovics: And, you know, unless anyone has anything else they wish to add I'd make a motion to adjourn this evenings meeting.

647 01:22:30.990 --> 01:22:31.650 Phil Faranda: I'll second.

648 01:22:35.250 --> 01:22:36.090 Adam Markovics: All in favor.

649 01:22:37.290 --> 01:22:37.650 Joyce Cole: Aye.

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01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:39.390 Adam Markovics: Okay.

651 01:22:40.830 --> 01:22:43.890 Adam Markovics: Thank you. Hi. May for once again facilitating this

652 01:22:46.290 --> 01:22:51.600 Adam Markovics: Hopefully the kinks will be worked out next time and Dana and I will figure it out. Don't be late.

653 01:22:52.830 --> 01:22:57.780 Adam Markovics: And Manny thank you very, very much for your, your support is always the HTC

654 01:22:58.650 --> 01:23:00.360 Adam Markovics: Everyone take care and stay safe.

655 01:23:00.540 --> 01:23:01.290 Joyce Cole: Night. Have a good day.

656 01:23:01.680 --> 01:23:02.100 Thank you.

657 01:23:03.150 --> 01:23:03.540 Jaime Martinez: Bye bye.

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