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1 00:01:08.790 --> 00:01:09.930 Jo Keogh: You're on mute.
2 00:01:10.020 --> 00:01:10.260 Yeah.
3 00:01:15.150 --> 00:01:16.500 Jo Keogh: Here's players. How you doing,
4 00:01:16.770 --> 00:01:17.640 Juan Colberg: Very well. And you
5 00:01:19.290 --> 00:01:21.270 Jo Keogh: Yeah. Yeah, always
6 00:01:22.410 --> 00:01:26.490 Jo Keogh: Good to see you. Did you get my email the region.
7 00:01:29.130 --> 00:01:30.690 Juan Colberg: Around the email.
8 00:01:31.440 --> 00:01:38.430 Juan Colberg: Yeah yeah no I have not seen it yet. But yeah, he just said, I know how to get to the email but didn't know how to access the eBooks. I guess I
9 00:01:38.610 --> 00:01:41.910 Jo Keogh: Got it. Okay. Yeah, but certainly
10 00:01:42.030 --> 00:01:44.100 Juan Colberg: Is who can read the names. I will keep
11 00:01:45.870 --> 00:01:46.830 Juan Colberg: Track of the time, so
12 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:49.410 Jo Keogh: Thank you. Yes, we'll figure it out.
13 00:01:50.730 --> 00:01:52.020 Jo Keogh: Hi Clarice
14 00:01:55.920 --> 00:01:57.810 You look so enthusiastic.
15 00:01:59.220 --> 00:02:03.720 Jo Keogh: Is having a baby just like the funnest most invigorating thing.
16 00:02:06.540 --> 00:02:07.680 Clarice (she/her): just about covers it.
17 00:02:09.060 --> 00:02:09.750 Jo Keogh: Is she doing
18 00:02:10.650 --> 00:02:14.580 Clarice (she/her): She's fine. She's teething kind of constipated, and
19 00:02:15.480 --> 00:02:17.160 Jo Keogh: Awesome. Yeah.
20 00:02:20.100 --> 00:02:21.780 Juan Colberg: Some days a year. Right.
21 00:02:22.050 --> 00:02:22.320 Yes.
22 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:29.040 Jo Keogh: It's good to teenagers down to
23 00:02:44.910 --> 00:02:48.090 Jo Keogh: Stephanie is going to be a few minutes late tonight shut out late from work.
24 00:02:54.720 --> 00:02:56.400 Clarice (she/her): Looks like we got a lot of people joining us
25 00:02:58.080 --> 00:03:00.060 Jo Keogh: Said, Tracy, nice to see you again.
26 00:03:21.390 --> 00:03:23.400 aosaos: Hi, Joe, can you hear me, it's Joel
27 00:03:24.450 --> 00:03:25.440 Jo Keogh: I can
28 00:03:26.430 --> 00:03:32.910 aosaos: I'm not very technologically advanced um my video is off. I just want to make sure that
29 00:03:34.110 --> 00:03:35.670 aosaos: I've done everything correctly.
30 00:03:37.050 --> 00:03:39.480 Jo Keogh: As far as I can tell, do you mean in terms of
31 00:03:40.290 --> 00:03:41.340 aosaos: His audio good
32 00:03:41.730 --> 00:03:51.390 Jo Keogh: Audio is good. Yeah, yeah, if, if you're planning to speak at some point tonight. If you can pop on the video sweet and see you. That would be helpful, but you don't need to do that right now.
33 00:03:51.720 --> 00:03:55.950 aosaos: Right, I'm not sure. We'll see how I can do that as far as the mute button.
34 00:03:57.270 --> 00:03:58.830 aosaos: Do I unmuted are muted.
35 00:04:00.180 --> 00:04:09.540 Jo Keogh: You can mute it during the regular meeting and then unmuted speak, it's good to have them muted during the meeting, just in case there's any background noise.
36 00:04:15.420 --> 00:04:20.280 Jack Evans: I'm having Joe I'm having the same issue. I can't get the video to come on
37 00:04:20.760 --> 00:04:26.280 Jo Keogh: Okay. Um, well, we can hear you. So that's something
38 00:04:27.870 --> 00:04:28.620 Jack Evans: I'm sorry.
39 00:04:30.420 --> 00:04:43.080 Jo Keogh: Well, if we cannot get if you can get video at some points, we can see are charming face that would always be always a good thing, but I know tech tech stuff can be a pain in the neck, sometimes. So, do what you can.
40 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:47.490 Jo Keogh: Barry. Hi. Nice to have you here.
41 00:04:51.540 --> 00:04:52.380 Jo Keogh: you're muted.
42 00:04:54.870 --> 00:04:55.350 Barry Felson: Sorry.
43 00:04:57.780 --> 00:04:58.380 Barry Felson: Can you hear
44 00:04:59.940 --> 00:05:02.430 Barry Felson: Actually say, can you hear me now because it takes
45 00:05:02.430 --> 00:05:03.990 Barry Felson: Me back to bed. Commercials
46 00:05:04.050 --> 00:05:04.380 Yeah.
47 00:05:06.750 --> 00:05:07.890 Jo Keogh: Yeah, we can hear you.
48 00:05:09.060 --> 00:05:09.450 Barry Felson: Thank you.
49 00:05:09.990 --> 00:05:11.070 Barry Felson: Thanks for letting me be here.
50 00:05:12.180 --> 00:05:14.160 Jo Keogh: Thank you for, for being here tonight.
51 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:34.020 Jo Keogh: So we just need one more Commission member to pop on
52 00:06:10.350 --> 00:06:11.610 Jo Keogh: Hi, Jim, how are you
53 00:06:14.910 --> 00:06:15.930 Jo Keogh: you're muted. Sorry, I
54 00:06:17.910 --> 00:06:20.280 Jo Keogh: Feel like a waitress at a restaurant just embarrassing.
55 00:06:21.960 --> 00:06:26.100 jtpow: Yeah, there we go. That's just like to say thank you for inviting me.
56 00:06:27.180 --> 00:06:28.200 Jo Keogh: Nice to see you here.
57 00:07:06.810 --> 00:07:07.230 Andy Gottlieb: How are you
58 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:10.890 Andy Gottlieb: Good, good to see you all.
59 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:29.880 Jo Keogh: Alright, so
60 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:33.330 Jo Keogh: Oh Hi Sue how are you
61 00:07:37.290 --> 00:07:51.090 Jo Keogh: I'm Stephanie is going to be a little bit late, Maureen is not really able to join us tonight because of work emergency, but since we have a quorum here at the core heading get started I'm sure no one will be with us. Presently
62 00:07:53.520 --> 00:07:58.740 Jo Keogh: So I would like to make a motion to call this meeting to order. Do I have a second
63 00:07:59.310 --> 00:07:59.730 Second,
64 00:08:00.780 --> 00:08:02.340 Jo Keogh: That was one. Yeah.
65 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:04.020 Jo Keogh: Thank you.
66 00:08:06.660 --> 00:08:17.280 Jo Keogh: And I'd like to make a motion to approve the minutes from last month's meeting to any GH RC members have changes questions adjustments anything
67 00:08:18.690 --> 00:08:19.080 Juan Colberg: Second,
68 00:08:19.830 --> 00:08:21.240 Jo Keogh: Okay, thanks. One
69 00:08:22.650 --> 00:08:23.730 Jo Keogh: Okay, so
70 00:08:24.990 --> 00:08:42.750 Jo Keogh: As it says on our agenda. Tonight we'll have a separate public forum for the issues surrounding the bill for deed of sale in town hall. We'll get to that in just a minute. I'd like to open our regular public forum. We have with us tonight J to in my saying that right
71 00:08:44.280 --> 00:08:46.500 18604705156: You can you hear me, I can
72 00:08:46.560 --> 00:08:48.150 Jo Keogh: I can change.
73 00:08:49.590 --> 00:08:49.860 Jo Keogh: My
74 00:08:49.950 --> 00:08:59.670 18604705156: My name is James, but I go by Jay, just wanted to quickly introduce myself. I'm the chair of the Farmington human relations Commission Joe and I
75 00:08:59.700 --> 00:09:02.040 18604705156: Had a chance to chat. A few days ago, but
76 00:09:02.910 --> 00:09:12.450 18604705156: I'm just interested in what other towns are doing. So I'm going to just kind of observe my son happens to live in Guilford, and He serves on the building commissioning Guilford so
77 00:09:12.690 --> 00:09:22.020 18604705156: I feel kind of connected to your town in that respect. And anyway, like I said, I just wanted to introduce myself and observe your meeting. That's all I really have to say thanks
78 00:09:22.320 --> 00:09:25.110 Jo Keogh: Great. Thanks for being here. Jay, just
79 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:33.900 Jo Keogh: To clarify, the human relations commission in Farmington is essentially the same thing as a Human Rights Commission here and Gopher and so
80 00:09:34.740 --> 00:09:37.890 Jo Keogh: Jay, and I, one of the things that we were talking about. And I've also
81 00:09:38.460 --> 00:09:43.980 Jo Keogh: As you know, spoken with Sarah Raskin from the West Hartford Human Rights Commission.
82 00:09:44.370 --> 00:09:54.690 Jo Keogh: Is the idea of having all of the human rights and human relations commissions in Connecticut get together at some point. So we can meet each other. Find out what other commissions are doing
83 00:09:55.530 --> 00:10:06.030 Jo Keogh: What they're doing well what they need help with how we can help us. So it was great to have a dialogue with Jay about what's happening in Farmington so thank you for
84 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:22.890 18604705156: I just I just want, I don't want to usurp too much of my time, but I did we met last night and I did mention that that was something that might be somewhere in the future in our meeting last night, which went very well. Thank you. Thank you for letting me talk. Yeah.
85 00:10:22.920 --> 00:10:35.190 Jo Keogh: Absolutely. Thanks for being here. Happy to have you. Um, okay. So are there any other comments for the general not Guilford Landy public forum this evening.
86 00:10:37.410 --> 00:10:59.790 Jo Keogh: No. Okay. Then I like to move on to the discussion of the Guilford deed of sale currently hanging in town hall, and I think pretty much everyone else who's here has written an email or letter to us regarding that issue, Eric. I'm going to hand over this discussion to you.
87 00:10:59.790 --> 00:11:01.740 Jo Keogh: Again, as I did last month if that's
88 00:11:01.740 --> 00:11:02.340 Jo Keogh: Okay.
89 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:04.830 Jo Keogh: But I thought it would be a good idea to
90 00:11:04.920 --> 00:11:25.830 Jo Keogh: Open with comments from Barry Felton who is the gentleman that wrote the original email to Matt homie concerning removal of the deed from town hall. So Barry. Thanks for being with us tonight. I'm so sorry for the mix up that prevented you from being here.
91 00:11:26.880 --> 00:11:34.740 Jo Keogh: That was completely my fault. I'm so I'm so glad you're gracing us with your presence tonight and we're very open to hearing what you have to say.
92 00:11:35.490 --> 00:11:46.170 Barry Felson: I appreciate that and thank you again for letting me know about this meeting. I know you asked me to. You said you can have two minutes, I'm going to beg for three, I think I can get through it and three
93 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:53.520 Barry Felson: If that's alright so bear with me. I probably going to speak a little quickly. I'm not gonna, I'm going to try and cut through as much as possible.
94 00:11:54.120 --> 00:12:11.820 Barry Felson: Without you know flowery language. I'd like to start by commenting on the contents of the letters that the Commission received that were written by local historians and just, I'm a great believer in context. So this is part of the context for my my comments and my request.
95 00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:17.010 Barry Felson: The authors point to their study of various original or primary source documents.
96 00:12:17.430 --> 00:12:22.710 Barry Felson: And assert that these documents present an accurate representation of the facts.
97 00:12:23.910 --> 00:12:38.070 Barry Felson: I just want to bear in mind that these assertions are in fact opinions that are based only on the point of view of the authors of those documents, who were white English settlers and of the historians who interpret them.
98 00:12:39.090 --> 00:12:44.730 Barry Felson: So I just want to frame the rest of it with that because it's too easy to go down the path of, well, this is just the truth.
99 00:12:46.560 --> 00:12:47.580 Barry Felson: It's part of the truth.
100 00:12:48.630 --> 00:12:51.750 Barry Felson: There are no original documents from the Minorca talk point of view.
101 00:12:53.340 --> 00:12:54.150 Barry Felson: Not one.
102 00:12:55.650 --> 00:13:06.780 Barry Felson: So not I didn't, I'm sensing that there was no pushback on my assertion that the Satan was less likely unable to read what she was signing or that
103 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:13.710 Barry Felson: And people didn't seem to take issue with my assertion that owning and selling land was not something understood and native culture at the time.
104 00:13:14.100 --> 00:13:26.040 Barry Felson: So again, just just part of the part of the context and forgive me for reading, but there was so much in there that I just had to make some notes. So I wanted. One of the things that really struck me was Joel's
105 00:13:27.540 --> 00:13:39.450 Barry Felson: Joel's letter, where he points to. I'm going to quote a compelling book. And the book was written by Professor old and Vaughn that touches heavily on the subject before us.
106 00:13:39.990 --> 00:13:51.240 Barry Felson: Has at the heart of its thesis, the argument that until 1675 that New Englanders generally respected the Indians and tried sincerely to win them to English ways and beliefs.
107 00:13:51.990 --> 00:14:03.150 Barry Felson: The Puritans ultimate goal was assimilation of the natives into Anglo American society, not my words. The words of a professor that that wrote a seminal book.
108 00:14:04.020 --> 00:14:16.140 Barry Felson: One of those colonists was Reverend john Higginson who and again I'm going to quote at the, at one time, stood at the head of the clergy of New England and who made himself familiar with the English studying
109 00:14:16.530 --> 00:14:22.350 Barry Felson: Indian languages of New England, not only for communications, but for Christian education.
110 00:14:23.700 --> 00:14:31.770 Barry Felson: This is the same Reverend Higginson who interpreted for the Managua talk say to them in the signing in the process of the signing of the land deed.
111 00:14:32.340 --> 00:14:42.840 Barry Felson: So what we're asked to believe is that his familiarity with language was at a high enough level that he was able to translate accurately and
112 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:46.380 Juan Colberg: Body center but you have you already researched three minutes, but
113 00:14:47.070 --> 00:14:49.470 Juan Colberg: I'm sorry, you're ready to reach the three minutes.
114 00:14:51.420 --> 00:14:53.550 Juan Colberg: So I know went pretty fast.
115 00:14:55.170 --> 00:15:03.450 Barry Felson: If you'd like. I'll stop now. But that seems pointless. I'm, I'm sorry. I apologize for taking too much time.
116 00:15:04.680 --> 00:15:08.910 Barry Felson: So I can, I can come back later on if you want and finish the comments.
117 00:15:10.140 --> 00:15:12.930 Jo Keogh: I'm wondering if maybe we could start with
118 00:15:14.010 --> 00:15:25.470 Jo Keogh: Just a couple of the things that you said a moment ago, or probably literally a minute ago about our discussion last month relating to the points.
119 00:15:26.010 --> 00:15:51.390 Jo Keogh: Of whether or not the station was able to read and as pertaining to the Native Americans, you have land and land sales, Eric, if I'm remembering correctly, this actually work points that were touched on, but I wondered if you wanted to wave back in on those issues at this point.
120 00:15:51.990 --> 00:15:56.550 Eric White Bear: Yeah, I would say, I absolutely agree with what very same here.
121 00:15:58.530 --> 00:15:59.370 Eric White Bear: I don't believe that.
122 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:02.880 Eric White Bear: The system here and go for the
123 00:16:04.710 --> 00:16:09.090 Eric White Bear: Capacity to understand the document at all.
124 00:16:10.530 --> 00:16:17.010 Eric White Bear: Even if it was translated by someone who could have been flowing in Algonquin like Reverend john Dickinson.
125 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:21.990 Eric White Bear: Also, the point of the land.
126 00:16:23.880 --> 00:16:30.240 Eric White Bear: Sales the notion of being on that prevalent and Indian culture that that's true as well.
127 00:16:31.980 --> 00:16:40.320 Eric White Bear: Believed as far as I can tell that the land sustains us. That's not something that we own, or that we can sell or we can trade and so
128 00:16:41.550 --> 00:16:42.660 Eric White Bear: I think that
129 00:16:44.370 --> 00:16:59.670 Eric White Bear: You know the document really in my, my view is kind of like a quick claim kind of document where they just gave up their claim and and went somewhere else and that's pretty much pretty much all it as well.
130 00:17:02.760 --> 00:17:03.240 Jo Keogh: So,
131 00:17:04.590 --> 00:17:17.730 Jo Keogh: I think they know that very you weren't overly thrilled with our decision to actually have educational documents added to the documents at Town Hall.
132 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:24.300 Jo Keogh: Where we were coming from. With that was the idea that we would actually have
133 00:17:25.530 --> 00:17:31.290 Jo Keogh: An opportunity to present the Native American point of view on this transaction.
134 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:40.740 Jo Keogh: And along with the sort of standardized historical wait view of the transaction.
135 00:17:41.850 --> 00:17:59.970 Jo Keogh: So that it could be a learning opportunity, but I know in one of your emails to me. I'm not sure if this was to the entire Commission that you weren't sure that town hall was an appropriate place to have that kind of educational forum. My stating that correctly.
136 00:18:03.390 --> 00:18:12.780 Barry Felson: The i want to i through this process. I've been learning a lot. And one of the things that intrigues me now is the possibility of using it for education.
137 00:18:14.850 --> 00:18:33.330 Barry Felson: Initially, I thought, This isn't the right place for it. It belongs in where it already is. It's in two places in Guilford in the historical room at the entrance of the historical room which is I measured it's 14 by 11 and three quarter inches, much smaller than the one at a town hall.
138 00:18:34.920 --> 00:18:37.770 Barry Felson: And at Henry Whitfield house.
139 00:18:40.800 --> 00:19:02.250 Barry Felson: I think now that now that that this has come further i can i can actually support the leaving it where it is and it is is is actually two displays of each of the two deeds was something in the middle. That's an equal size equal prominence that actually does take
140 00:19:03.810 --> 00:19:17.760 Barry Felson: Explanation for it because right now the documents are there. And one of the one of the wonderful things was I called town hall. And as somebody measuring for me. And the person said, I'm not even sure what I'm looking at. Now this is an employee of the town of Guilford
141 00:19:18.870 --> 00:19:28.380 Barry Felson: When you go and look at them. There's very little. There's no context, other than something on the top of one of them that says this is these are exited from the actual
142 00:19:29.250 --> 00:19:37.350 Barry Felson: Landed which is in Boston, etc etc and excuses. It says, you know, there are some issues because it will document their folds and and
143 00:19:38.610 --> 00:19:42.600 Barry Felson: In completing through. So that's it, though there is no explanation.
144 00:19:43.770 --> 00:20:02.070 Barry Felson: Let alone an explanation from from the indigenous people's perspective. And if that's not there, then I really mean that my objection stands, then I think it's just a glorification of something that that I personally think should not be glorified.
145 00:20:03.900 --> 00:20:04.320 Barry Felson: So,
146 00:20:05.460 --> 00:20:11.850 Jo Keogh: Yeah, I think that's the kind of came into the same position or a position of agreement with what you're saying.
147 00:20:12.990 --> 00:20:24.510 Jo Keogh: And Eric was going to leave the initiative to craft the Native American point of view. Eric's a member of the scatter code tribe.
148 00:20:25.590 --> 00:20:47.520 Jo Keogh: Just to throw that out there for reference. I will say as jack pointed out to me after our last meeting I missed something important in all of this, which is that we can make a recommendation to the Board of selectmen about adding documents for context. But that's all we can do
149 00:20:47.610 --> 00:20:58.590 Jo Keogh: And he also pointed out that it was a bit premature to start putting that documentation together. The explanatory documentation until we had
150 00:20:59.700 --> 00:21:06.750 Jo Keogh: Agreement from the board of selectmen but that would be an appropriate actions. So that would sort of be the first step.
151 00:21:08.820 --> 00:21:10.740 Jo Keogh: But it's, it sounds like
152 00:21:11.760 --> 00:21:23.910 Jo Keogh: As long as that documentation is in place with both points of view, then you would support the deed staying where it is at the moment.
153 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:35.820 Barry Felson: If it, if the explanations were given equals equal prominence and we're satisfactory and Eric, I have no reason to believe they wouldn't be
154 00:21:36.990 --> 00:21:48.300 Barry Felson: Then that makes it much more palatable as it is now. I mean, almost everybody who wrote to you. So this is an important you know it's got to be out in the open. And it's an important educational opportunity. No, it isn't. At the at
155 00:21:48.720 --> 00:22:00.150 Barry Felson: The current time because you're left on your own to try and educate yourself and and i think i'm a reasonably intelligent human being, I wouldn't be able to do that.
156 00:22:01.770 --> 00:22:19.200 Jo Keogh: I think that's a good point. And, you know, this is also open discussion about other educational initiatives that we can provide in Guilford about the sale in and of itself really operating the indigenous perspective.
157 00:22:20.280 --> 00:22:20.820 Jo Keogh: Words.
158 00:22:22.350 --> 00:22:26.100 Barry Felson: And I do understand that that the Commission has been asked to
159 00:22:27.120 --> 00:22:32.430 Barry Felson: Passing passing opinion along a recommendation along and that it's the up to the Board of selectmen
160 00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:46.050 Barry Felson: That's why I wrote to map in the beginning because I know it's up to the Board of selectmen i think i think an opinion from the Guilford Human Rights Commission will go will be taken seriously and will go a long way.
161 00:22:47.370 --> 00:22:50.580 Barry Felson: And when it's presented at a
162 00:22:51.630 --> 00:22:52.770 Barry Felson: selectman meeting.
163 00:22:53.850 --> 00:22:54.960 Barry Felson: All attend that to
164 00:22:59.820 --> 00:23:01.020 Jo Keogh: Clarice did you wanna
165 00:23:02.100 --> 00:23:03.600 Clarice (she/her): Know, I just wanted to
166 00:23:04.800 --> 00:23:05.520 Clarice (she/her): Say that
167 00:23:06.600 --> 00:23:12.900 Clarice (she/her): To just thank you for bringing this to our attention and and i think this goes hand in hand with
168 00:23:14.220 --> 00:23:22.860 Clarice (she/her): What Dr. Friedman is trying to do right now, which is, you know, talking about the heart history than showing both sides and you know this is
169 00:23:24.690 --> 00:23:38.070 Clarice (she/her): A prime local example of how we can educate our citizens are our residents of such thing. I think it's important to, to, to give equal sides.
170 00:23:39.090 --> 00:23:39.810 Clarice (she/her): Both nights.
171 00:23:42.540 --> 00:23:44.070 Clarice (she/her): The same attention.
172 00:23:45.870 --> 00:23:51.000 noelpetra: Actually thought that if we were showing both sides that would draw more attention to
173 00:23:53.280 --> 00:24:00.750 noelpetra: Without a later trivia. The whitewashing of history, you know, the winner writes the history. I thought that by showing that this is
174 00:24:01.500 --> 00:24:16.200 noelpetra: This is the town story in view. And this is other people's view from more from the Native American side. It'll make people realize and think about it even more than they would in any other circumstance, so I thought it was. I thought it's a good way to go about
175 00:24:20.520 --> 00:24:25.350 Jo Keogh: Parents to have anything you wanted to add to the US.
176 00:24:26.040 --> 00:24:34.110 Eric White Bear: Sure, yeah. I went and visited the server room and the library and took a look at the view that they have there. And then I went to the town hall.
177 00:24:34.830 --> 00:24:54.480 Eric White Bear: And I went over to the where they collect the taxes and I saw the big huge display that they have over there on the side of that wall and I took pictures of everything and start it off. And I think that perhaps across from the tax collector may may not be the best spot for
178 00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:02.640 Eric White Bear: Perhaps in the Town Clerk's office where all the deeds are kept that would probably be the best for
179 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:16.350 Barry Felson: Eric, and that's really interesting because I remember asking somebody tongue in cheek. If I could pay my tax bill with buttons and code. Some fathoms of them.
180 00:25:17.040 --> 00:25:17.400 Well,
181 00:25:18.510 --> 00:25:19.170 Eric White Bear: Most valuable.
182 00:25:26.040 --> 00:25:28.380 Jo Keogh: What do you think about what do you think about that, Barry.
183 00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:40.650 Barry Felson: I'd have to look at it again. I was there today. Again, just looking at at it and looking at the Guilford covenant which also makes no mention of any indigenous people.
184 00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:47.070 Barry Felson: Very clear about the expectations and the promises that they make to each other. But there's no mention of the people that they're going to be
185 00:25:48.270 --> 00:25:50.910 Barry Felson: Interacting with and attempting to get land from
186 00:25:52.980 --> 00:26:03.210 Barry Felson: I don't know. I don't recall the layout and well enough, I would take, I would take Eric Eric's guidance on that because I think you were actually paying attention to them. I wasn't
187 00:26:05.910 --> 00:26:09.870 Jo Keogh: And what about. I know we've got least three
188 00:26:11.250 --> 00:26:13.890 Jo Keogh: Town historians here Tracy john
189 00:26:15.090 --> 00:26:15.390 Jo Keogh: And
190 00:26:15.510 --> 00:26:20.490 Juan Colberg: Joe, if I can say something just first Bobby. I didn't mean any disrespect on stopping you. But
191 00:26:20.940 --> 00:26:33.030 Juan Colberg: Assign me poke fun. We want to make sure that we control the time, but I think we have a great discussion after you have it. We have received both the document that you guys have submitted the Commission members and we have went over them. So
192 00:26:33.870 --> 00:26:38.460 Juan Colberg: Thank you anyway. But that's, that's why you know I stop you. So
193 00:26:39.420 --> 00:26:53.490 Barry Felson: I appreciate that. And I will submit the rest of what I was all submit my notes to you after this meeting, because I think there are some other points in there, the people that would that would be makes sense for people to get to consider.
194 00:26:54.300 --> 00:26:55.140 Juan Colberg: I'll be great, thanks.
195 00:26:55.440 --> 00:27:05.100 Jo Keogh: Yeah, that would be great and new, you know, having a public forum for different points on our agenda so your, your guinea pig.
196 00:27:07.380 --> 00:27:14.760 Jo Keogh: For being willing to do that, Jim Tracy Joel to the very thing that you Tracy
197 00:27:15.810 --> 00:27:34.500 Tracy Tomaselli: Um, as far as moving it to another location. My only recommendation would be to still keep it in the hallway and not put it inside the Town Clerk's office, but maybe move it closer to yes where that entrance to the Town Clerk's door is
198 00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:40.740 Tracy Tomaselli: I would be personally find that as long as it remains in the hallway for others to see
199 00:27:41.580 --> 00:27:46.320 Jo Keogh: And is that so people could have access to it, even when the Town Clerk's office is closed, Tracy
200 00:27:46.800 --> 00:28:01.590 Tracy Tomaselli: Right, if they're not just going to the Town Clerk's Office, which is true, where the deeds are in that area. But so that others who are going to other offices can also see it just like the other displays that are also along the hallway.
201 00:28:02.130 --> 00:28:07.500 Barry Felson: Yeah, there's a display case, if I remember right opposite the Town Clerk's office that could probably be moved.
202 00:28:08.250 --> 00:28:08.880 Tracy Tomaselli: Either that
203 00:28:08.910 --> 00:28:11.220 Barry Felson: Or it's a large ball area.
204 00:28:11.490 --> 00:28:27.540 Tracy Tomaselli: Yeah, there's also where I again I'd have to look but there's, I think the Norton ice wagon, maybe that big mural can be moved swapped out, but we can take a look at the different displays. Yeah.
205 00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:30.150 Jo Keogh: Thanks, Tracy
206 00:28:30.600 --> 00:28:33.660 aosaos: I'll jump in. It's, it's, Joel. If I'm a job.
207 00:28:33.990 --> 00:28:52.230 aosaos: Sir, I'm sorry about the screen. I have an antiquated if not dinosaur like computer, but I would say on its own. This has been an educational initiative, and I thank you buried because it's allowed us to put on our thinking caps.
208 00:28:53.730 --> 00:29:06.180 aosaos: We've put on our thinking caps long and hard over this. And of course, I think we can all realize that many historical documents, regardless of the century. They're from can be interpreted differently.
209 00:29:07.290 --> 00:29:19.710 aosaos: I think you can take almost any documents. So, I, I'm on board with a ritual context. I wish that the revered Carl bells Tracy could be with us right now.
210 00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:31.080 aosaos: I'm reasonably certain that he put them up for some reason, I wasn't present when they were put up, but I think the context is very necessary and
211 00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:34.950 aosaos: I think, keeping it in the lobby.
212 00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:56.160 aosaos: Is probably better than the Town Clerk's office. I know that Anna is probably not going to have much space in her little sequestered area. So the center hallway probably would be best for access and visibility and certainly I'm available for any assistance, Eric.
213 00:29:57.330 --> 00:30:12.120 aosaos: And certainly, perhaps, Tracy and I could assist anybody with writing the one version to give it context on in the side by side pattern. So we thank you for airing all of this and
214 00:30:13.320 --> 00:30:16.800 aosaos: I think it'll work out. So, as we say, all's well that ends well.
215 00:30:18.990 --> 00:30:20.340 aosaos: Would that be correct, very
216 00:30:22.530 --> 00:30:22.860 aosaos: Well,
217 00:30:23.250 --> 00:30:25.650 Barry Felson: All's Well That begins well
218 00:30:26.250 --> 00:30:26.550 aosaos: I'll see
219 00:30:26.940 --> 00:30:27.960 Barry Felson: We'll see where it ends.
220 00:30:28.890 --> 00:30:30.600 Barry Felson: I'd like to call this a good beginning now.
221 00:30:31.350 --> 00:30:31.890 aosaos: Have you
222 00:30:32.940 --> 00:30:36.030 aosaos: Have you spoken anybody else who shared your sentiments.
223 00:30:37.980 --> 00:30:44.100 Barry Felson: I have, including a Facebook group called complicated Guilford
224 00:30:46.380 --> 00:30:55.770 Barry Felson: Who have been very active in in questioning the ability and willingness of the town to confront some of its
225 00:30:56.250 --> 00:31:01.980 aosaos: Yes, well this has been a very good exercise. And when I say it's allowed us to put on our thinking caps.
226 00:31:02.430 --> 00:31:11.070 aosaos: I say that with all great sincerity, I regard. My research is being independent and objective and I have really
227 00:31:12.450 --> 00:31:13.980 aosaos: Expanded some time in this
228 00:31:14.130 --> 00:31:24.120 aosaos: And it was I think exercise. And again, we appreciate the opportunity to have dialogue with the Human Rights Commission.
229 00:31:26.250 --> 00:31:27.780 Jo Keogh: Yeah, being here.
230 00:31:28.860 --> 00:31:34.800 Barry Felson: I forgot I for one would like to thank you for that for your, your obviously well researched.
231 00:31:35.970 --> 00:31:47.910 Barry Felson: Letter and I'd actually love to sit down over coffee with you and talk about this. Any, any and all of you, where we're not constrained by the boundaries of meeting. And we can actually have, we can actually dialogue over
232 00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:50.220 aosaos: Well, it sounds like, Well, I'm the green
233 00:31:51.360 --> 00:31:56.250 aosaos: Or winter coats and I think it would work. I'll call it a powwow. Is that okay, you're
234 00:31:56.610 --> 00:31:57.450 Jo Keogh: Maybe not.
235 00:31:58.440 --> 00:31:59.040 Maybe not.
236 00:32:03.060 --> 00:32:11.040 Jo Keogh: We'll take that in the spirit in which it was given, but maybe just a big gathering on agreeing to talk about it.
237 00:32:12.900 --> 00:32:24.540 Jo Keogh: That sounds great. And I'm so glad that there are connections being made, and there's so much interest being shown in this. And yeah, Barry. Thank you so much for bringing this to math attention and brought it to our attention.
238 00:32:25.320 --> 00:32:26.790 Jo Keogh: Pleasure dialogue.
239 00:32:28.230 --> 00:32:30.420 Barry Felson: Hey, can I make one other offer
240 00:32:30.540 --> 00:32:34.050 Barry Felson: And that is Eric. If you're at all interested in in
241 00:32:35.190 --> 00:32:36.960 Barry Felson: Having me as part of the
242 00:32:38.010 --> 00:32:42.390 Barry Felson: You know, take a look at this. Once it's drafted, I'd be more than happy to do that.
243 00:32:42.780 --> 00:32:43.950 Eric White Bear: So I love your input.
244 00:32:44.370 --> 00:32:44.790 Barry Felson: Thank you.
245 00:32:45.300 --> 00:32:51.180 Jo Keogh: Yeah. So one of the things that we've been discussing to as a commission is
246 00:32:52.500 --> 00:33:02.010 Jo Keogh: Having some groups or subcommittees I should say to work on a variety of issues and those subcommittees absolutely can't have volunteers from the community.
247 00:33:02.790 --> 00:33:19.230 Jo Keogh: So if I'm hearing this correctly, I'm hearing that Barry, you are interested in in the subcommittee Joel Tracy, you are as well since we've got two different points of view going here on, Jim. I don't know if this is something that interests you as well.
248 00:33:20.460 --> 00:33:30.750 Jo Keogh: But what I can do is send all of your emails over to Eric since he's the leader of this initiative that work for you, Eric.
249 00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:31.830 Eric White Bear: Yes, sir.
250 00:33:32.310 --> 00:33:35.280 Jo Keogh: Okay, and sort of go from there.
251 00:33:36.300 --> 00:33:45.330 Jo Keogh: Again, the first thing that we need to do is to actually make this recommendation to the Board of selectmen so
252 00:33:46.860 --> 00:33:57.120 Jo Keogh: I'm wondering maybe Eric and Barry and I as anyone else on commission. Who'd want to be involved with writing that recommendation.
253 00:33:57.900 --> 00:33:58.410 Jack Evans: Are would
254 00:33:59.130 --> 00:34:00.090 Jo Keogh: Jack okay
255 00:34:03.780 --> 00:34:05.670 Jo Keogh: And let's see.
256 00:34:08.940 --> 00:34:11.010 Jo Keogh: I suppose I should
257 00:34:13.110 --> 00:34:22.800 Jo Keogh: I should make a motion to submit a letter with this recommendation to the Board of selectmen, can I get a second for that.
258 00:34:23.040 --> 00:34:27.450 Jo Keogh: Session. Okay, I'm going to give this one to end tonight.
259 00:34:30.240 --> 00:34:30.600 Jo Keogh: All right.
260 00:34:34.020 --> 00:34:35.430 Jo Keogh: Let's see, so
261 00:34:36.750 --> 00:34:38.940 jtpow: It would be possible for me to say a few things at
262 00:34:38.940 --> 00:34:39.510 jtpow: This point
263 00:34:39.780 --> 00:34:40.950 jtpow: Absolutely. Hey,
264 00:34:41.970 --> 00:34:54.390 jtpow: By the way, as of the nine time. The longer property owner and Guilford, and then we sold our house that we owned and we're renting down there. I don't know that disqualifies me for anything now. But, uh,
265 00:34:55.590 --> 00:35:03.420 jtpow: But anyway, Barry. I want to thank you for bringing this topic up because this has been something that's been near and dear to me during my entire career teaching
266 00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:13.140 jtpow: About it was, it's always been so difficult to define the other point of view, especially as you mentioned that history is always written by the by the winners.
267 00:35:14.160 --> 00:35:27.150 jtpow: However, in this particular case the historical context is really, really important in terms of what was really happening in Connecticut in the 1630s, in particular, and into the 1640s.
268 00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:35.730 jtpow: The dynamics in terms of what was happening, not only in terms of into tribal warfare. But in terms of the arrival of the English and the competition with the Dutch
269 00:35:36.120 --> 00:35:53.700 jtpow: Was an overwhelming situation that the the Minotaur and the Quinnipiac had to face. I've just spent the last two years researching and writing about this particular type 50 year time period. I'm focusing in on the Quinnipiac and mostly the monotony of
270 00:35:54.900 --> 00:36:00.510 jtpow: The book. I have a book that's going to be published is going to come up in the summer.
271 00:36:02.130 --> 00:36:09.570 jtpow: But the what concerns me is the historical context, the historical context in terms of how
272 00:36:09.990 --> 00:36:20.490 jtpow: Native Americans and I agree with what Eric said, and I agree with you, said, Barry. They looked at land use and land land ownership is a completely different thing. There was no such thing, and I agree with that.
273 00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:26.430 jtpow: I think one of the issues that might be confusing things a little bit is that
274 00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:38.010 jtpow: Sharp, the shield and the other Quinnipiac say chums had had gone through the same exercise in New Haven, the year before with Davenport and eaten in that company and they they
275 00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:56.820 jtpow: They, it was very clear to them in terms of their interpretation that they were this this was a mutual land use cooperative sort of situation and that that was maintained in in the New Haven area right up through the probably I would say almost up to 1700s.
276 00:36:58.200 --> 00:37:05.400 jtpow: Unfortunately, because of population growth. The English eventually sort of pushed them out and made it possible for the natives to
277 00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:13.260 jtpow: Maintain their, their particular lifestyle, which was dependent upon hunting and fishing and things of that nature. I could I could go on and on but
278 00:37:13.680 --> 00:37:28.500 jtpow: I think one of the things we have to be very careful about is the fact that when the shampoo sure sign us agreed to this. She didn't agree to it as an individual, she agreed to it with counsel from her uncle.
279 00:37:30.120 --> 00:37:39.750 jtpow: Who was the statement that target. She agreed to it with with with the Council of her brother Morgan, who was the station in New Haven.
280 00:37:40.110 --> 00:37:51.510 jtpow: And Monta Weise, and Wells other elders from the entire the entire Quinnipiac group, and it was and so i i i disagree that she because she was illiterate. A question couldn't read
281 00:37:51.840 --> 00:38:00.510 jtpow: Okay, but she was a smart and savvy woman. She was a tremendous leader in my research that I've done the last two years, I have nothing but a tremendous amount of respect for that.
282 00:38:01.380 --> 00:38:15.330 jtpow: She realized that this was probably in the best interest of her of her people. It turns out it didn't turn out so well in the end you know because within the next 15 years or so, you know, things sort of fell apart but
283 00:38:16.560 --> 00:38:23.400 jtpow: I think it's important to keep those sort of historical context in mind when we start to talk about this. I'm
284 00:38:23.820 --> 00:38:31.050 jtpow: absolutely thrilled that you folks I know in my last paragraph of my letter I sent you folks I made the suggestion that we should have some sort of
285 00:38:31.830 --> 00:38:46.320 jtpow: Educational explanation that really set the whole historical context in and I'm thrilled that Eric that you're willing to take on that responsibility. I think that's terrific. Because one of the things I found over the years teaching and Guilford
286 00:38:47.520 --> 00:38:57.630 jtpow: Nobody fact reflection on new folks, but it was all about the nice little tidy colonial houses. It was never about you know what else was going on, necessarily.
287 00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:15.690 jtpow: The but the history of Guilford in regard to relation to the Native American people who the Quinnipiac was really a phenomenal and situation. They were really respectful and they even supported native the Native American people.
288 00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:21.930 jtpow: There was a famous court case really early on, where an Englishman had killed
289 00:39:23.250 --> 00:39:32.910 jtpow: had killed a young Native American men, aka tuck boy who was fishing. Now this is after they had left McClintock, but they still a fishing rights and
290 00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:43.500 jtpow: The people of Guilford supported that Native American man so that when they when he went to trial he won, he it was it was seen as justifiable homicide.
291 00:39:44.070 --> 00:39:51.660 jtpow: So we have to be careful about just. We don't want to sugarcoat one way, the other. We don't want to. We don't want to make sure that
292 00:39:52.440 --> 00:40:04.560 jtpow: The truth really has to be has to be told, within the context of the situation when those deeds were were made. Now, I'm not a big fan of bronchus. And there was a lot of stuff going on where he
293 00:40:05.370 --> 00:40:07.230 Jo Keogh: Jim, this is fascinating.
294 00:40:09.420 --> 00:40:09.720 Jo Keogh: And you
295 00:40:10.350 --> 00:40:10.680 jtpow: Know by
296 00:40:13.980 --> 00:40:14.460 jtpow: Sorry, one
297 00:40:17.940 --> 00:40:33.390 jtpow: Can I just say one last thing I didn't hear any discussion about a commissioning a a statue of shoppers. Sure. And I wrote that in that my letter in all seriousness, she was a tremendous role model for
298 00:40:34.470 --> 00:40:46.110 jtpow: For not only her own people, but for all all people on genders and etc. And I think of cowbells Tracy was here, he would, he would second that wholeheartedly so. Okay, thank you very much.
299 00:40:46.410 --> 00:40:46.860 Jo Keogh: Thank you.
300 00:40:47.970 --> 00:40:53.640 Jo Keogh: And me something that you might also want to be involved with some of this document.
301 00:40:53.670 --> 00:41:07.410 jtpow: I certainly would be happy to is, you know, as long as that's because no longer and being a property owner. I don't want to taint the situation. But, uh, you know, I think, I think I look forward to doing that. Yeah.
302 00:41:08.910 --> 00:41:21.090 Jo Keogh: Thank you. We actually did discuss two other points right discuss them with Eric, I guess I should say we discussed to the points in your letter gem. One was regarding
303 00:41:22.020 --> 00:41:30.030 Jo Keogh: Having a cultural Native American cultural center here in Guilford, and that's something that I believe we also touched on.
304 00:41:30.510 --> 00:41:32.970 Jo Keogh: Either in our last meeting or the one before.
305 00:41:34.020 --> 00:41:35.580 Jo Keogh: I know you're
306 00:41:36.330 --> 00:41:38.490 jtpow: Going to say that at the Dudley farm.
307 00:41:38.520 --> 00:41:46.020 jtpow: We have the dawn land Museum, which eventually we will have a standalone building that will be dedicated to the Quinnipiac people
308 00:41:46.380 --> 00:41:49.260 jtpow: Well, that was gonna happen. I don't know, but
309 00:41:49.380 --> 00:41:50.220 jtpow: That's where we're heading.
310 00:41:50.490 --> 00:41:51.000 Place.
311 00:41:54.060 --> 00:41:54.600 Jo Keogh: That you
312 00:41:55.230 --> 00:41:55.920 Clarice (she/her): Know that was me.
313 00:41:56.310 --> 00:41:56.760 Clarice (she/her): I was just
314 00:41:57.360 --> 00:41:58.770 Clarice (she/her): In like you being interrupted.
315 00:41:59.820 --> 00:42:00.000 Jo Keogh: Oh,
316 00:42:01.020 --> 00:42:01.920 jtpow: I apologize.
317 00:42:02.520 --> 00:42:08.400 Jo Keogh: That's okay. Um, everybody's passionate, which is great to have so many people passionate about this subject.
318 00:42:09.180 --> 00:42:21.420 Jo Keogh: I think that definitely could be something that we can talk about as a commission in possibly lending support to finding out more information about that initiative. I've been to that museum.
319 00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:23.790 Jo Keogh: At the W farm and
320 00:42:23.820 --> 00:42:36.120 Jo Keogh: It's amazing collection and jack. I know jack Evans, I know you've been involved with that too. So that's certainly something that we can put on to our next agenda.
321 00:42:36.810 --> 00:42:52.380 Jo Keogh: Eric and know that you had reservations about placing the statue of shoppers shoe on green and Stephanie. Am I correct that the Guilford witness stones projects has also been discussing something along those lines or yeah
322 00:42:54.060 --> 00:42:54.720 Jo Keogh: So,
323 00:42:55.980 --> 00:43:10.770 Jo Keogh: I wanted to defer to your perspective on this first and foremost, Eric, I don't know if you want to talk about why having a statue from and green might be inappropriate from a Native American perspective.
324 00:43:12.240 --> 00:43:12.900 Eric White Bear: Um,
325 00:43:14.250 --> 00:43:20.940 Eric White Bear: Know if I can really give you a Native American perspective on that, but I just, I'm not really into statues.
326 00:43:21.990 --> 00:43:31.380 Eric White Bear: Or any kind of idols or graven images. And so for my Christianity side. I'm not into the statue thing. So that's just how that
327 00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:34.830 Jo Keogh: Okay.
328 00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:41.700 Jo Keogh: Joe
329 00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:51.930 Jack Evans: Joe, the subject of a statue, just like the town document is one of education. Yeah. And I think if we go through this process.
330 00:43:52.350 --> 00:44:02.220 Jack Evans: The education of what is appropriate. What is accepted and all that will come to light and we'll be able to share not share not only amongst ourselves with the town.
331 00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:16.110 Jack Evans: And then part of our goal is to educate and to bring all this stuff out. We can talk about. So my suggestion is that we sort of set out on that path, rather than trying to solve it tonight so
332 00:44:16.170 --> 00:44:17.010 Jo Keogh: That's probably
333 00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:20.610 Jo Keogh: There's always next month's agenda.
334 00:44:22.170 --> 00:44:34.080 Jo Keogh: But I think definitely you know, talking about the W farm collection, Eric, I know that you had also at our last meeting ways the possibility of
335 00:44:35.070 --> 00:44:48.510 Jo Keogh: Having the bill for high school changed its name to Quinnipiac was that, yeah, which is also something that I'm going to add to our next meeting agenda for discussion.
336 00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:52.560 Jo Keogh: Okay, so
337 00:44:53.490 --> 00:44:54.660 Clarice (she/her): If I may, um,
338 00:44:55.200 --> 00:45:00.120 Clarice (she/her): I believe there's already like a vote being out for the mascot to
339 00:45:00.420 --> 00:45:00.930 Jo Keogh: Be made to
340 00:45:01.890 --> 00:45:04.440 Jo Keogh: This isn't for the mascot this without naming
341 00:45:04.500 --> 00:45:04.920 Clarice (she/her): I'm sorry.
342 00:45:05.310 --> 00:45:06.780 Jo Keogh: None of them. No, no, I
343 00:45:06.870 --> 00:45:07.380 Clarice (she/her): Understand, I
344 00:45:07.590 --> 00:45:08.250 Jo Keogh: Know, you're good.
345 00:45:10.260 --> 00:45:20.910 Jo Keogh: Okay, so between now and our next meeting or next regular meeting in December. If we can get the letter together to send
346 00:45:21.720 --> 00:45:34.740 Jo Keogh: To the board of selectmen with our recommendation around the land deeds and town hall. You can vote on that at our next meeting, and then send that out in December, is that work for everyone.
347 00:45:36.510 --> 00:45:36.990 Jo Keogh: Yes.
348 00:45:39.750 --> 00:45:50.790 Jo Keogh: Is there anyone else who has anything to add on this particular topic, which I would also be happy to talk about for several hours because it's so fascinating.
349 00:45:52.290 --> 00:45:59.310 Jo Keogh: But sounds like it'll be some really good discussions around all of us enough weeks ahead. So I hope I am privy to some of that to
350 00:46:01.350 --> 00:46:05.760 Jo Keogh: Bury. Are you feeling satisfied with the outcome as of the moment.
351 00:46:06.900 --> 00:46:08.490 Barry Felson: Like I said, it's a good start. Yeah.
352 00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:09.300 Great.
353 00:46:10.470 --> 00:46:19.170 Jack Evans: bury me I point out that I'm going to reinforce what Joe said earlier that really, we can only recommend
354 00:46:19.560 --> 00:46:20.130 Jack Evans: To the
355 00:46:20.580 --> 00:46:26.280 Jack Evans: selectmen and they they may or may not come back to us and say, hey, please help us out with
356 00:46:27.810 --> 00:46:37.950 Jack Evans: The documentation and the education portion of it or they may elected to choose some other path, both of which are sort of acceptable to make this happen.
357 00:46:39.600 --> 00:46:54.240 Jack Evans: And I'm gonna say we do don't have a veto power over it. We can express our, our concern, but I don't want your expectation to or any of our expectations to creep out of
358 00:46:55.260 --> 00:47:03.840 Jack Evans: Creep too far before we know exactly what we're going to be allowed to do. I think the recommendation and our advice is going to be well received.
359 00:47:04.290 --> 00:47:16.470 Jack Evans: I wouldn't be surprised if what we think is going to happen happens. But let's let's not get too far ahead of ourselves, otherwise it will know that there's going to be some changes between now and when we actually get it done.
360 00:47:18.240 --> 00:47:21.480 Jo Keogh: Well, that being said, we certainly will make sure to
361 00:47:22.770 --> 00:47:29.940 Jo Keogh: Let it be known that we're happy to do the legwork on this, should the Board of selectmen feel that that's an appropriate way to go.
362 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:35.040 Jo Keogh: So we'll start, start with the letter.
363 00:47:36.150 --> 00:47:38.130 Jo Keogh: Next month and then see where we go from there.
364 00:47:41.130 --> 00:47:41.640 Jo Keogh: Great.
365 00:47:43.410 --> 00:47:45.420 Jo Keogh: Okay. Hey,
366 00:47:46.680 --> 00:47:50.280 Jo Keogh: dandy and one you have your letter.
367 00:47:51.780 --> 00:47:55.650 Jo Keogh: To Parks and Rec about
368 00:47:57.120 --> 00:48:03.900 Jo Keogh: Russia Shawna or letter that we received from a member of the community. I thought it was well written.
369 00:48:05.430 --> 00:48:08.850 Jo Keogh: Does anybody have anything they'd like to
370 00:48:09.870 --> 00:48:13.980 Jo Keogh: Well, I guess, first one and Andy Do you have anything that you'd like to say about
371 00:48:15.030 --> 00:48:17.880 Jo Keogh: The letter and to your post all of us. Oh.
372 00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:22.200 Barry Felson: I'm Gonna duck off now because I'm thinking I'm gonna let you guys do.
373 00:48:23.040 --> 00:48:25.710 Barry Felson: What you need to do. So thank you all.
374 00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:29.250 Barry Felson: Right now.
375 00:48:29.910 --> 00:48:33.420 Jo Keogh: Yes, please. Any of you were just here for the Landy
376 00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:34.890 Research
377 00:48:38.310 --> 00:48:38.580 jtpow: Guys.
378 00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:41.400 Jo Keogh: Okay.
379 00:48:45.180 --> 00:48:50.880 Jack Evans: As a point of thing I haven't received the letter I haven't seen a copy of it or I missed it.
380 00:48:51.390 --> 00:48:52.980 Jo Keogh: It was attached to the agenda.
381 00:48:53.520 --> 00:48:55.920 Jack Evans: I didn't, I didn't see that on the attachment
382 00:48:56.460 --> 00:48:57.060 Jack Evans: I'll look again.
383 00:48:57.810 --> 00:49:02.430 Jo Keogh: Yeah, it's it did. Everybody else got it with their agenda. Yeah, it's in there.
384 00:49:02.850 --> 00:49:03.060 Yeah.
385 00:49:06.990 --> 00:49:09.840 Jack Evans: Okay, just, I just reload it, and it came in.
386 00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:11.580 Jo Keogh: Okay.
387 00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:16.800 Jo Keogh: So,
388 00:49:17.160 --> 00:49:26.190 Juan Colberg: So I did you want to present our you know so true true about what we want to put in the letter and why
389 00:49:27.630 --> 00:49:28.200 Andy Gottlieb: I'm sure
390 00:49:29.790 --> 00:49:31.560 Andy Gottlieb: So as we discuss
391 00:49:32.640 --> 00:49:36.420 Andy Gottlieb: Last meeting we gotten this this letter from a concern resident about
392 00:49:37.740 --> 00:49:48.030 Andy Gottlieb: The scheduling of soccer games during the holidays and it's just been a kind of a and other events.
393 00:49:49.980 --> 00:49:52.590 Andy Gottlieb: Parks and Rec events during the holidays so
394 00:49:54.540 --> 00:49:55.110 Andy Gottlieb: We
395 00:49:56.220 --> 00:50:07.590 Andy Gottlieb: Want and I crafted this email to brick Maynard at Parks and Rec and basically just going through that complaint and offering to
396 00:50:09.780 --> 00:50:11.220 Andy Gottlieb: Help set up some sort of
397 00:50:12.600 --> 00:50:13.320 Andy Gottlieb: Protocol.
398 00:50:15.180 --> 00:50:16.770 Andy Gottlieb: For not scheduling.
399 00:50:17.790 --> 00:50:33.570 Andy Gottlieb: Events on the high holidays, especially when it seems to be particular sticking point they fall on the weekend when Parks and Rec might not realize that these are still the current, even though it's not officially in the school calendar as days that are
400 00:50:35.130 --> 00:50:36.360 Andy Gottlieb: School schools are closed.
401 00:50:37.380 --> 00:50:38.070 Andy Gottlieb: During the week.
402 00:50:39.660 --> 00:50:48.900 Andy Gottlieb: So I think that's, that's kind of the, the gist of it. So when we offered to help in whatever way we can to make this a reality.
403 00:50:52.110 --> 00:50:54.000 Andy Gottlieb: There's anything else, one that you want to
404 00:50:58.860 --> 00:51:00.270 Andy Gottlieb: Think you're muted one
405 00:51:01.230 --> 00:51:10.050 Juan Colberg: Yet what we want to do is try to close that gap between holidays rotating holidays that doesn't fall every year during weekdays, which is when
406 00:51:10.560 --> 00:51:27.780 Juan Colberg: The school would adopted had no classes and, you know, we'll, we'll have no sports playing that in that day. But also, you know, be, you know, respectful. Right. So if the town had decided, those are all the dates to observe in in our school system.
407 00:51:29.100 --> 00:51:44.190 Juan Colberg: Make sure that the sport club doesn't play either in Guilford or other towns. So basically the schedule show respect what we have adopted in our school system right terms of holidays that we observe and
408 00:51:44.640 --> 00:51:52.680 Juan Colberg: That will be a good compromise if pack of recreation agreed to have some kind of indirect communication when we
409 00:51:53.370 --> 00:52:01.830 Juan Colberg: Get requests from clubs to use our facilities that they, we have a series of guidance that we ask them to follow and does
410 00:52:02.220 --> 00:52:11.850 Juan Colberg: What he was referring that we can work on those, you know, workflows protocols that to help Park and recreation if they agree. First we need to see what we have to said
411 00:52:12.810 --> 00:52:30.330 Juan Colberg: To help to put that as you go to the website and look at the form for preservation of facilities, there is no nothing about it. Just say what time they open at what technicals. So I think that some more information could be helpful to avoid these kind of miscommunication.
412 00:52:32.790 --> 00:52:33.210 Jo Keogh: Great.
413 00:52:34.890 --> 00:52:36.390 Jo Keogh: I thought the letter was very well done.
414 00:52:37.020 --> 00:52:44.760 Jo Keogh: And your recommendations were good ones. So anybody have anything to say about said letter.
415 00:52:48.060 --> 00:52:57.150 Jack Evans: At the risk of sort of state looking into it from a prat. I don't want to call it a practical side. But if we look at the
416 00:52:57.810 --> 00:53:11.400 Jack Evans: Number of holidays for a lot and I'm gonna say a number of religion, religious groups. We got 52 weekends of the year. And I went, so I did a real quick study
417 00:53:11.940 --> 00:53:24.960 Jack Evans: And and depending on how you make your cut off. There are somewhere between 18 and 30 that fall on you know that that that weekend or the day before that weekend is indeed a religious holiday for someone
418 00:53:26.100 --> 00:53:35.160 Jack Evans: So I mean scheduled it you know we are going to put a burden on on them for scheduling on the party records scheduling and the school system.
419 00:53:35.460 --> 00:53:44.970 Jack Evans: I think one selects a suggestion that is is if the school system observes that maybe that's the kind of the way to address it.
420 00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:59.550 Jack Evans: But we, we might want to mention, rather than pick one religion we think we might want to be a little more generic on on all on holidays. Just, just to be generic or religious holidays. That's all.
421 00:53:59.850 --> 00:54:07.170 Juan Colberg: Right now, and that's what they let us say Dr. Correct. Right. So we say 331 may your holidays for various regions, every year, so
422 00:54:07.680 --> 00:54:15.750 Juan Colberg: What we tried to capture in the latter is we already have recognized certain holidays within our school system. Let's use those as a reference for
423 00:54:16.470 --> 00:54:26.790 Juan Colberg: The parks and you know and unnecessarily if they fall during the week with days, but also just basically recognized holidays that when they fall into the week.
424 00:54:27.660 --> 00:54:38.730 Juan Colberg: There, observe. Let's put all those in that lease of requesting clubs and others private entities that use our facility to respect those those holidays.
425 00:54:40.680 --> 00:54:51.480 Jack Evans: I can, I can say from a business side with with multi religions involved in our, our business it you know that the way to do it is just to treat it with honor and and
426 00:54:52.110 --> 00:54:52.410 Juan Colberg: It will
427 00:54:52.470 --> 00:54:53.970 Jack Evans: It solves itself I think
428 00:54:56.520 --> 00:54:57.030 Jo Keogh: Okay.
429 00:54:57.270 --> 00:55:00.900 Jack Evans: The other thing, the other thing is, do we want this does not that
430 00:55:02.040 --> 00:55:08.640 Jack Evans: You know, do we want to does Andy and bond, want to be sort of appointment on that that letter or do we want to just under from the committee.
431 00:55:09.510 --> 00:55:26.490 Jo Keogh: It's appropriate to have one Andy service appointment or point people on this since they're the ones that have been working on it, you know, certainly if Rick wants to attend commission meeting or, you know, once involvement from any of the rest of us were here.
432 00:55:27.990 --> 00:55:34.860 Jo Keogh: But want as Vice Chair has access to the town official town email account. So it can be sent through that channel.
433 00:55:36.060 --> 00:55:37.260 Jo Keogh: Because response.
434 00:55:37.410 --> 00:55:44.550 Juan Colberg: And we offer that in the lead right they want to go further, come to the Commission or subset of the Commission to discuss further so
435 00:55:45.240 --> 00:56:07.410 Jo Keogh: Yeah. And I also think it's a good opportunity to have sort of a micro committee and action. So I'd actually like to raise emotion that one and Andy send a letter to recommend harsh and know we can discuss whatever response they received at our December meeting.
436 00:56:08.460 --> 00:56:12.480 Jo Keogh: And I get a second Clarice thank you raise it.
437 00:56:14.340 --> 00:56:18.060 Jo Keogh: Thank you. Okay. Great. Thank you, gentlemen, for that.
438 00:56:19.380 --> 00:56:25.710 Jo Keogh: Stephanie, would you like to talk to us about the Guilford community culture festival
439 00:56:28.530 --> 00:56:31.200 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Hello. Good evening, everyone. Can you hear me okay
440 00:56:31.500 --> 00:56:33.030 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Yeah, okay, good.
441 00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:42.510 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Yeah, so the Guilford community culture fest. And believe me when I say that name is not written in stone.
442 00:56:44.130 --> 00:56:52.800 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Is sort of the combination of several discussions that I've had with Joe and some other folks around town.
443 00:56:53.880 --> 00:57:03.600 Stephanie Brown (she/her): And sort of, you know, my the child Guilford, the child me of Guilford that always wanted this place to be like a melting pot of something
444 00:57:04.260 --> 00:57:13.050 Stephanie Brown (she/her): We're not yet, but we do want to represent and celebrate the diversity that is here, and given the events in town over the last couple of years.
445 00:57:13.830 --> 00:57:26.100 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Some that have been culturally or racially motivated. I really think it's a good time to remind people that these are things that need to be celebrated. And we should start within our community. And the idea is to have
446 00:57:27.210 --> 00:57:29.220 Stephanie Brown (she/her): As many hopefully
447 00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:30.960 Stephanie Brown (she/her): All
448 00:57:32.550 --> 00:57:41.370 Stephanie Brown (she/her): cultural, religious, ethnic however many other descriptive words I can put in there, whoever those people are that represent
449 00:57:42.030 --> 00:57:52.860 Stephanie Brown (she/her): What Guilford days and who we are and what we're made of, they will somehow be represented in this in this festival. The idea is to make it a one possibly two day festival
450 00:57:53.790 --> 00:58:02.970 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Taking place some towns sometime in 2022 I'm thinking maybe late summer or mid summer mid to late summer either just after
451 00:58:03.480 --> 00:58:11.790 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Schools let out in a couple weeks have gone by people gotten their vacations out of the way, or just before people are getting their last vacations in before school starts again.
452 00:58:13.050 --> 00:58:14.250 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Provided we're allowed to do that.
453 00:58:16.620 --> 00:58:19.200 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Anyway, so sometime in July or August
454 00:58:20.220 --> 00:58:34.170 Stephanie Brown (she/her): It could take place at the Guilford fairgrounds if it was large enough if it got to be that if we needed that space or, you know, it could be something very small and community driven that could fit over at the Martin Bishop field just on Long Island.
455 00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:36.210 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Long Hill Road.
456 00:58:38.490 --> 00:58:39.420 Stephanie Brown (she/her): So, you know, I've already
457 00:58:40.950 --> 00:58:51.390 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Thought about where this could go and what it could possibly be. I think the green could also work if it wasn't something that was majorly huge the first year, but the idea is to make this an annual thing.
458 00:58:52.410 --> 00:59:00.210 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Perhaps it grows to a shoreline area thing but we really want to focus on Guilford and what makes us Guilford
459 00:59:01.980 --> 00:59:07.950 Stephanie Brown (she/her): But there would be representation either somehow in the food or performances, the music, the art that's shown
460 00:59:09.030 --> 00:59:25.590 Stephanie Brown (she/her): The where's that are sold, you know, we'll have it. Like I said Guilford fair style, they'll be some food trucks and vendor booths, you know, someone has a really cool cultural knit pattern in their grandma wants to knit 10 blankets to sell and, you know,
461 00:59:27.000 --> 00:59:28.470 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Sorry, Steve, do you happen to have
462 00:59:30.390 --> 00:59:30.900 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Um,
463 00:59:31.410 --> 00:59:33.390 Clarice (she/her): I just, you know, that could be I
464 00:59:36.540 --> 00:59:38.940 Stephanie Brown (she/her): I just meant that grandma would probably have all the like.
465 00:59:39.090 --> 00:59:39.690 Clarice (she/her): I know I
466 00:59:42.060 --> 00:59:43.290 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Trust me, if I could, knit, I would
467 00:59:43.290 --> 00:59:44.190 Clarice (she/her): But it's a disaster.
468 00:59:44.970 --> 00:59:51.720 Stephanie Brown (she/her): But if someone wants to have a booth selling you know that there's a connection to their culture and they can you know have a discussion and tell
469 00:59:52.140 --> 01:00:05.970 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Tell their little background a little their background story to the customer about why this pattern on the blanket is so important to them, you know, things of that nature that can really enrich our interactions with each other and hopefully get us to stop.
470 01:00:07.470 --> 01:00:15.150 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Swiping at each other quite so often about things that really should be connecting us at the end of the day, so
471 01:00:16.170 --> 01:00:23.700 Stephanie Brown (she/her): I don't know if you all had a chance to read my layout. I was joking with Joe that you know it's a loose draft with me when I put
472 01:00:25.350 --> 01:00:31.020 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Budget and financing in the miscellaneous category. When really it should have been the first thing
473 01:00:32.040 --> 01:00:37.020 Stephanie Brown (she/her): So, um, anyway. The idea is to tap some local civic groups.
474 01:00:39.330 --> 01:00:43.020 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Of course, our local politicians to sponsor. Some of our local businesses.
475 01:00:44.190 --> 01:00:50.460 Stephanie Brown (she/her): To either sponsor or help us procure different items that would or services that would need
476 01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:57.480 Stephanie Brown (she/her): You know, we needed for this to happen. Of course, we would have a subcommittee folks.
477 01:00:58.650 --> 01:01:11.160 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Some here and also from, you know, the town community. Anybody who wanted to volunteer or have some kind of input about it and of course volunteers for the day, up to help set up help promote that sort of thing.
478 01:01:13.500 --> 01:01:20.430 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Yeah, and I don't have my copy of my proposal in front of me sad. Like some of my phone. But if you got a chance to look at it.
479 01:01:21.630 --> 01:01:31.350 Stephanie Brown (she/her): I go into a little bit more detail of what civic groups. We could tap, but the Guilford community fund, go for it. Fun for education, they go for Preservation Alliance keeping society.
480 01:01:33.780 --> 01:01:39.660 Stephanie Brown (she/her): In us. I think we have as many civic groups. We do Facebook groups. But anyway, we should have everyone
481 01:01:41.550 --> 01:01:42.150 Stephanie Brown (she/her): So,
482 01:01:43.470 --> 01:01:54.630 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Yeah, I'm rambling now because I'm pretty excited and I could go all day about this, but how does that sound to folks like you think that's something we could pull off. Am I being naive like
483 01:01:54.750 --> 01:01:55.890 What do you think
484 01:01:57.060 --> 01:01:59.310 Jo Keogh: I love this idea you know of other subjects.
485 01:01:59.310 --> 01:01:59.790 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Away. No.
486 01:02:00.570 --> 01:02:18.300 Jo Keogh: Idea and one of the reasons that I really love this idea is because I feel like it can be one of the signature pieces of the Human Rights Commission moving forward. One of the ways that we contribute to the community annually in a really positive way.
487 01:02:19.530 --> 01:02:30.090 Jo Keogh: And I also think that we will be able to get buy in from a lot of other groups in Guilford, who, you know, might be interested in being co sponsors.
488 01:02:31.320 --> 01:02:38.520 Jo Keogh: In some way or another. So I know getting something this size together will take a lot of work, but I think with
489 01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:40.290 Jo Keogh: You know,
490 01:02:41.610 --> 01:02:48.450 Jo Keogh: A sufficient amount of time and planning and subcommittees and community volunteers. I think it's absolutely possible so
491 01:02:49.020 --> 01:02:50.670 Jo Keogh: I think it's fantastic.
492 01:02:51.030 --> 01:02:52.170 Jo Keogh: And Stephanie in
493 01:02:52.860 --> 01:02:54.540 Juan Colberg: In our community and do that.
494 01:02:55.680 --> 01:03:13.110 Juan Colberg: We typically have like a micro event like that every year in some areas of Clinton and because you know to church where we have everything from rock and roll to African dancers. We have community and half of the people to organize that live in guilt for because they just go
495 01:03:13.200 --> 01:03:31.200 Juan Colberg: To the Spanish mass. So, you know, we have music they dress with clothing from from the regions, they dance, you know, serve food, sell, you know, things like you describe it. So certainly sure you're going to find a lot of volunteers in Guelph would like to help organizing this.
496 01:03:32.070 --> 01:03:39.510 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Oh, that's awesome. And actually, you said you were from Puerto Rico. Correct. Correct. So over the summer. I took a bomba class.
497 01:03:39.540 --> 01:03:48.630 Stephanie Brown (she/her): I don't know, like a six week workshop and I mentioned this idea to the organizer. A couple of weeks ago and
498 01:03:49.530 --> 01:03:57.150 Stephanie Brown (she/her): You know, he said, Let me know when you have it scheduled and we'll do a performance, you know, will donate a performance. So I think that would be a really cool.
499 01:03:57.900 --> 01:04:08.070 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Piece to add and it's an interactive one because you know they can pull people in from the crowd and sort of doing on on the spot lesson. But I thought of you and he said that because I can't wait to tell
500 01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:13.500 Stephanie Brown (she/her): But yeah exactly that, like a big
501 01:04:14.580 --> 01:04:25.410 Stephanie Brown (she/her): What really made me think of this is that when I was a kid, we used to do these block parties in the center of town, and they would block off like the street in front of pages and the street in front of
502 01:04:26.790 --> 01:04:29.550 Stephanie Brown (she/her): In front of the food Centerville food center which is now the marketplace.
503 01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:35.970 Stephanie Brown (she/her): And john civil would set up on his stage and he would DJ and, like, people would literally be dancing in the streets.
504 01:04:36.330 --> 01:04:41.520 Stephanie Brown (she/her): There'd be a couple of street vendors you the buyer kids those like those little snack things and
505 01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:52.920 Stephanie Brown (she/her): I don't know exactly when they stopped doing that, but that's a really cool memory I have from my childhood. And I remember doing it like a few years in a row in that front end and just suddenly stopped and
506 01:04:53.850 --> 01:05:01.890 Stephanie Brown (she/her): There was always like a sense of community at these things and it kind of went the same thing as like the community picnic, they do in the summertime. If you've ever been to that with the Jasmine.
507 01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:07.770 Stephanie Brown (she/her): And people just sort of gathering together and hanging and enjoying being citizens of Guilford, and I think
508 01:05:09.150 --> 01:05:22.470 Stephanie Brown (she/her): We've missed a little bit of that over the past couple of years. So this is kind of a, like I said, it was the culmination of a lot of conversations with people about what this could possibly look like. So Joe appreciate your
509 01:05:25.110 --> 01:05:27.570 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Time and listening to me wax poetic about it.
510 01:05:30.330 --> 01:05:34.500 Stephanie Brown (she/her): But the idea would be like they have at the sorry from taking a lot of time but
511 01:05:35.280 --> 01:05:43.770 Stephanie Brown (she/her): We would need committees for, you know, getting permits and getting you know sourcing food vendors and performers and hopefully getting some performers to donate their
512 01:05:44.460 --> 01:05:52.680 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Performances but there's a few key people that we can tap for that with maybe more pleasure. He's kind of a town homegrown town favorite
513 01:05:53.220 --> 01:06:03.780 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Maybe somebody who knows next Friday on he might want to get him to come perform. But then we would also have a lot of cultural performances to like the bone book dancers and know the Friends of him and asset.
514 01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:16.980 Stephanie Brown (she/her): organizers have some Native American groups up can come and do some cultural dances as well. So there's a lot of opportunity for folks to be represented and to feel seen
515 01:06:17.520 --> 01:06:25.020 Stephanie Brown (she/her): And to feel included in this event in some way. That's not the performance, maybe it's in the food. The food. Maybe you're selling something
516 01:06:26.580 --> 01:06:30.330 Stephanie Brown (she/her): You know, whatever we can do to make this as as
517 01:06:31.770 --> 01:06:33.330 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Cool as possible for everyone.
518 01:06:35.880 --> 01:06:36.150 Jo Keogh: No.
519 01:06:37.980 --> 01:06:41.130 noelpetra: Think you hit the right button there with the food well
520 01:06:42.330 --> 01:06:48.420 noelpetra: I think you'll definitely attract me. I'm sure he'll track the rest of us feel really good food. I'm in
521 01:06:49.200 --> 01:06:50.490 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Feed them and they will come.
522 01:06:53.700 --> 01:06:56.280 Clarice (she/her): I do have just one logistical
523 01:06:56.700 --> 01:07:02.250 Clarice (she/her): Question, because I saw that you put the proposed date as in the summer of 2022
524 01:07:04.890 --> 01:07:12.840 Clarice (she/her): I don't know, like if we're all going to be still in in our positions here because like this already year to for us right
525 01:07:14.850 --> 01:07:16.770 Stephanie Brown (she/her): This would be your one for me.
526 01:07:17.250 --> 01:07:17.580 Clarice (she/her): For you.
527 01:07:18.300 --> 01:07:21.360 Jo Keogh: starting your two, so I need to think
528 01:07:21.750 --> 01:07:23.310 Clarice (she/her): Yeah. Well, I mean,
529 01:07:23.910 --> 01:07:27.570 Jo Keogh: Losing my people before them. But yeah, most of us.
530 01:07:30.270 --> 01:07:30.570 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Here.
531 01:07:31.170 --> 01:07:36.150 Clarice (she/her): Yeah, and I'm happy to help. This is the kind of thing that I enjoy doing that. I like to think that
532 01:07:37.530 --> 01:07:38.490 Clarice (she/her): One of my strengths
533 01:07:40.170 --> 01:07:57.870 Juan Colberg: Will put forward in here and get the endorsement from the selectmen and older so i doing this year, maybe next year. Right, so it will be okay. Hopefully for for that. Please was approved that will be a matter, we can still volunteer right even even a part of the Commission, so yeah.
534 01:07:58.080 --> 01:08:00.240 Clarice (she/her): And I think I remember
535 01:08:02.190 --> 01:08:14.250 Clarice (she/her): One or two summers ago I went to like a a yell international cultural day too. And they had like all the student clubs out there. They had like a timesheet demonstration. They had like
536 01:08:15.990 --> 01:08:24.570 Clarice (she/her): Like all sorts of like different arts and crafts and stuff like that. So yeah, I think, I think that would be that would be lovely to share
537 01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:27.600 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Awesome.
538 01:08:28.710 --> 01:08:29.490 Stephanie Brown (she/her): So yay.
539 01:08:29.970 --> 01:08:32.400 Stephanie Brown (she/her): You sound like you want to be on that subcommittee.
540 01:08:33.570 --> 01:08:34.050 Clarice (she/her): Absolutely.
541 01:08:35.010 --> 01:08:36.630 Jo Keogh: A really good event planner.
542 01:08:36.960 --> 01:08:38.220 Jo Keogh: I can say that. Excellent.
543 01:08:38.340 --> 01:08:39.330 Jo Keogh: Experience with her.
544 01:08:41.100 --> 01:08:53.400 Jo Keogh: So I'm thinking, then, then the next thing to do would be to submit your proposal Stephanie to the Board of selectmen for consideration and
545 01:08:53.730 --> 01:08:55.590 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Why do you want me to fix it first.
546 01:08:56.820 --> 01:09:03.000 Jo Keogh: Um, yeah, I don't think there's too much that needs fixing, if you want to, you know,
547 01:09:04.230 --> 01:09:05.550 Jo Keogh: If you feel like it needs.
548 01:09:06.060 --> 01:09:10.260 Stephanie Brown (she/her): To move the budget stuff to the top and take it out of miscellaneous it's just
549 01:09:16.290 --> 01:09:21.540 Jo Keogh: Okay. Um, so I make a motion to submit
550 01:09:22.320 --> 01:09:24.330 Jack Evans: Before you do that, Stephanie.
551 01:09:25.620 --> 01:09:29.280 Jack Evans: Go to the selectmen with it and as large as you're anticipating it
552 01:09:30.990 --> 01:09:34.830 Jack Evans: The Selectmen are going to ask sort of some fundamental questions as I see it.
553 01:09:35.460 --> 01:09:36.300 Stephanie Brown (she/her): And that's going to be
554 01:09:36.630 --> 01:09:39.390 Jack Evans: Or we're going to need like police
555 01:09:40.680 --> 01:09:41.370 Jack Evans: Support
556 01:09:42.660 --> 01:09:50.010 Jack Evans: First responders response support that sort of thing. Depending on the size of the crowd, because there are some things we have to comply with
557 01:09:50.340 --> 01:09:50.670 Jo Keogh: I think
558 01:09:53.520 --> 01:10:03.480 Jack Evans: I know, but you're gonna you're gonna have to cover the costs of that because the talent. Yeah, that the expense of the police expense will have to come from somewhere.
559 01:10:03.810 --> 01:10:11.370 Jack Evans: So when you put the proposal forward the budget is very, I think, very important to say, well,
560 01:10:12.900 --> 01:10:13.470 Jack Evans: Yes.
561 01:10:13.770 --> 01:10:15.630 Stephanie Brown (she/her): That's why I want to move it to the top. And that's why
562 01:10:15.630 --> 01:10:17.280 Stephanie Brown (she/her): We are where I left it.
563 01:10:18.630 --> 01:10:18.780 Jack Evans: And
564 01:10:20.010 --> 01:10:21.330 Jack Evans: They're gonna watch you the numbers.
565 01:10:22.740 --> 01:10:25.770 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Well, they'll have to wait until I have them.
566 01:10:28.080 --> 01:10:34.890 Stephanie Brown (she/her): We, we know there will be an actual budget that needs to happen that all will come from the fundraising that we can do.
567 01:10:35.250 --> 01:10:44.520 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Or the contributions that we may get from other groups, but we've got to get buy in from the so I didn't before even approached them. So, but thank you for your concern. I will certainly make sure we
568 01:10:45.720 --> 01:10:51.270 Jack Evans: Cover it because I don't want, I don't want to just see get frustrated because of, you know, out of the chute.
569 01:10:52.290 --> 01:10:53.430 Juan Colberg: But maybe
570 01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:55.080 Stephanie Brown (she/her): This isn't my first go at an event.
571 01:10:56.700 --> 01:11:04.350 Juan Colberg: Certainly, I think we could put in letters that we estimate something similar, the same magnitude of the gill fair right
572 01:11:04.500 --> 01:11:04.950 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Yeah.
573 01:11:05.070 --> 01:11:06.540 Juan Colberg: Yeah, good for for have already
574 01:11:06.870 --> 01:11:17.310 Juan Colberg: But the budget. They need for please. And although expensive and and the goal is to try to upset any budget needs through private, you know, fundraising, that kind of thing.
575 01:11:17.400 --> 01:11:31.530 Juan Colberg: Right. And at some point we'll go back to this, and I must say, Okay, this is what we got. This is the different and they will have to endorse if that budget request is susceptible or or not. And before we get the final goal right
576 01:11:32.250 --> 01:11:33.810 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Yeah, thank you.
577 01:11:36.330 --> 01:11:38.670 Stephanie Brown (she/her): But yeah that's that's the idea. I was just hoping
578 01:11:39.690 --> 01:11:50.340 Stephanie Brown (she/her): To get some feedback from you all. Before taking another step because that's one that's not just my idea and to I certainly wouldn't even think about doing it by myself.
579 01:11:52.050 --> 01:11:54.750 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Yeah, I just wanted to make sure you guys were all on board with it.
580 01:11:57.540 --> 01:12:04.590 Jo Keogh: Alright, so I would like to make a motion to submit a preliminary proposal for so for
581 01:12:06.330 --> 01:12:09.990 Jo Keogh: For the board of selectmen to look at sorry long day.
582 01:12:11.430 --> 01:12:12.900 Jo Keogh: Do I have a second for that.
583 01:12:14.100 --> 01:12:17.550 Jo Keogh: No thank you. Alright, great. So
584 01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:19.740 Jo Keogh: Stephanie.
585 01:12:21.150 --> 01:12:29.730 Jo Keogh: I'll tag team with you about getting that to Matt using the official, you know, to Darcy female
586 01:12:31.590 --> 01:12:40.710 Jo Keogh: Yeah, you probably want to pop up at the meeting that that happy discussed that movie that you've already done this before. So yeah, great.
587 01:12:42.060 --> 01:12:51.450 Stephanie Brown (she/her): But I did also reach out to one of the organizers of the Guilford fair to do exactly what one was suggesting, and just to get an idea of what sort of budget. They worked with
588 01:12:52.290 --> 01:12:58.380 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Because again, for the first year I certainly don't expect it to be that big, but who knows we you know we need to be prepared for that.
589 01:12:59.640 --> 01:13:06.060 Jo Keogh: Yeah. The other thing that pops to mind is the cultural festival or the arts festival is that
590 01:13:07.740 --> 01:13:10.590 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Arts, Arts and performance festival
591 01:13:11.070 --> 01:13:12.030 Jo Keogh: Something like that, yeah.
592 01:13:13.140 --> 01:13:17.520 Jo Keogh: That might be a more comparable budgets, a little smaller scale.
593 01:13:17.910 --> 01:13:18.450 Jo Keogh: Oh, that's true.
594 01:13:18.990 --> 01:13:20.280 Jo Keogh: So just, just about.
595 01:13:22.620 --> 01:13:22.980 Jo Keogh: Great.
596 01:13:24.270 --> 01:13:25.050 Jo Keogh: Um,
597 01:13:26.730 --> 01:13:34.620 Jo Keogh: And also, Stephanie did. You want to talk about your idea for a movie nights.
598 01:13:36.150 --> 01:13:38.010 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Oh, I forgot I submitted that
599 01:13:39.570 --> 01:13:54.570 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Yeah, um, I thought it might be a fun idea and also another community interactive idea to host movie nights that are related to some of the
600 01:14:09.300 --> 01:14:09.630 Juan Colberg: Yeah.
601 01:14:11.310 --> 01:14:12.300 Jo Keogh: There you go. Yep.
602 01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:22.170 Juan Colberg: Still candle.
603 01:14:25.980 --> 01:14:27.120 Clarice (she/her): You're like, Robo Stephen
604 01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:29.280 Juan Colberg: Oh nothing changes.
605 01:14:33.210 --> 01:14:35.370 Jo Keogh: Okay, well, we'll move on from this for just a moment.
606 01:14:37.020 --> 01:14:39.630 Jo Keogh: So we get Stephanie back I'm
607 01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:44.040 Jo Keogh: Very sad face for her to
608 01:14:46.020 --> 01:14:47.250 Juan Colberg: Take a picture and send it to
609 01:14:51.540 --> 01:15:00.990 Jo Keogh: All right, I'm just going to skip forward for time sake to annual deal for leadership conference on discrimination. This is something we talked about
610 01:15:01.440 --> 01:15:22.200 Jo Keogh: I think four plus meetings ago before we had over half of them are about how some of our new members. So the idea is for Guilford leadership to come together and meet on an annual basis to talk about the ways in which they are addressing issues of systemic
611 01:15:23.400 --> 01:15:25.590 Jo Keogh: Discrimination in Guilford
612 01:15:26.940 --> 01:15:37.980 Jo Keogh: We have buy in on this from the Guilford foundation from the police department and from a couple of the big community businesses.
613 01:15:38.790 --> 01:15:50.130 Jo Keogh: Or main community businesses, but we need to reach out to obviously other town agencies to make this happen. And in a perfect world, I'd really love to see
614 01:15:50.880 --> 01:16:02.190 Jo Keogh: The heads of most of the town Commission's involved with this to this, this would be a fairly big meeting that would happen again with town leadership once a year.
615 01:16:03.750 --> 01:16:07.260 Jo Keogh: So before I moved to head with that.
616 01:16:09.060 --> 01:16:19.170 Jo Keogh: I just wanted to talk to you all about it, see if anyone had recommendations thoughts about it. Thoughts about what might be a good time of year to do it.
617 01:16:21.210 --> 01:16:23.640 Jo Keogh: Any questions, anything
618 01:16:25.440 --> 01:16:28.170 Jo Keogh: I skipped one item I have on the agenda, Tony came back.
619 01:16:29.250 --> 01:16:30.060 Jo Keogh: We'll skip back
620 01:16:33.180 --> 01:16:34.590 Jo Keogh: Anyone have any thoughts about
621 01:16:39.300 --> 01:16:41.850 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Really useful and good idea
622 01:16:44.040 --> 01:16:45.540 Stephanie Brown (she/her): I don't have anything else to add,
623 01:16:48.210 --> 01:16:48.660 Jo Keogh: Okay.
624 01:16:50.070 --> 01:16:55.230 Jo Keogh: Does anyone have any thoughts about what time of year might be best.
625 01:16:56.490 --> 01:17:00.810 Jo Keogh: I was thinking, probably something in saving, March, April.
626 01:17:03.960 --> 01:17:07.590 Jo Keogh: Area. So we're not competing with people being away.
627 01:17:08.700 --> 01:17:14.670 Jo Keogh: Competing with holiday time with vacation time or with the start or end of the school year.
628 01:17:16.260 --> 01:17:21.330 Clarice (she/her): Is that when they have the budget stuff usually do.
629 01:17:23.100 --> 01:17:26.550 Clarice (she/her): At 140 yeah
630 01:17:26.970 --> 01:17:32.850 Jo Keogh: Well so tax days April 15 so probably not on April 15 yeah
631 01:17:34.890 --> 01:17:41.340 Jo Keogh: I don't know when spring break, usually happens for the school system, but I'm assuming at some point in March.
632 01:17:42.690 --> 01:17:58.740 Jo Keogh: But also nothing, you know, in February. I know this year will probably still be on zoom. At that point, but I know that a lot of folks aren't overly anxious to come out of their houses when it's freezing cold and dark on February evenings, so
633 01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:03.030 Jo Keogh: Obviously thinking spring.
634 01:18:05.730 --> 01:18:06.150 Clarice (she/her): Now we
635 01:18:07.440 --> 01:18:12.450 Jack Evans: Are we looking to get part of the town budget or somebody's business budget.
636 01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:15.750 Jack Evans: Know,
637 01:18:16.500 --> 01:18:29.370 Jack Evans: Four or five other programs that would, you know, we EVERYBODY MEETS and sees everything. And then you want to program in something on the town side, it would have to be budgeted in somehow
638 01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:30.330 No.
639 01:18:31.620 --> 01:18:41.430 Jo Keogh: Not really. Um, well, I hadn't considered that, honestly, I don't know that we need to see or share budgets, this would be more about
640 01:18:42.870 --> 01:18:43.290 Jo Keogh: What
641 01:18:43.560 --> 01:18:49.290 Jack Evans: Our budget if if they come out of it and say, hey, I want to do something. Get it into their budget.
642 01:18:50.790 --> 01:19:05.910 Jack Evans: Because if if they're already budgeted out for Poland educational programs and they have them all schedule and everything for a given year, then you're waiting a year to implement or a longer period of time to implement what what might be proposed.
643 01:19:06.030 --> 01:19:09.060 Jo Keogh: Oh, I see what you're saying. And so those budgets.
644 01:19:10.350 --> 01:19:12.480 Jo Keogh: Come out in the spring jack. Do you know
645 01:19:13.590 --> 01:19:31.410 Jack Evans: Well, right now that, for example, right now. The town is going through the reviving budgets for, you know, to be proposed for for when we vote on them in the spring and and for the physical upcoming physical year most most well
646 01:19:31.740 --> 01:19:42.630 Jack Evans: Half of the businesses around do an annual budget. So they're in their final throes of budget for this year. So I think, I think what you're probably looking at
647 01:19:43.080 --> 01:19:52.710 Jack Evans: And I don't. Again, I don't want call this a practical matter, I think you have more time to sort of proposal later spring into the summer and maybe even have two or three
648 01:19:55.200 --> 01:20:05.850 Jack Evans: I'll call it meetings or something to cover the same maybe cover the same thing and learn how you're doing it so that you can get into the budget and how you can, you know, sort of affect things going forward.
649 01:20:06.420 --> 01:20:06.840 Okay.
650 01:20:10.650 --> 01:20:17.220 Jo Keogh: So from a budgetary from a fiscal standpoint, would it make more sense for meeting and annual meeting like this to happen in the fall.
651 01:20:23.640 --> 01:20:27.990 Jack Evans: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm pushing them pushing the talk to speak the button.
652 01:20:29.190 --> 01:20:34.740 Jack Evans: And then, by the way, I'm sorry. I think I'm fighting bandwidth on where I am. That's why I don't have video
653 01:20:36.120 --> 01:20:46.740 Jack Evans: The, the answer to your question is that you would be better to, in my view, to look at the end of Q2 beginning of Q3.
654 01:20:48.180 --> 01:20:57.840 Jack Evans: And maybe maybe into Q3 one. You know what you would know a lot about about us and your budgeting within your company and that sort of thing.
655 01:20:59.310 --> 01:21:04.110 Jack Evans: So, so I'm just, I'm trying to think ahead so that we get the biggest bang.
656 01:21:04.170 --> 01:21:06.480 Jo Keogh: for our buck. No. That makes a lot of sense.
657 01:21:07.800 --> 01:21:10.470 Jo Keogh: But the only thing with the timing.
658 01:21:11.640 --> 01:21:19.260 Jo Keogh: Is not wanting to do this in the summer months, but I know that it would be possible to schedule this, you know, say, in June.
659 01:21:21.300 --> 01:21:32.790 Jack Evans: You see the dilemma. What happens is that one. If I'm out of a line hear you correctly, once we if you can kind of get at the head of the line in the budgetary process.
660 01:21:33.210 --> 01:21:48.750 Jack Evans: Sort of, at the end of Q2 and into Q3, it becomes part of the discussion if you get into the discussion at the end of Q3 and the beginning of Q4 you're fighting over the remaining budget that somebody might have for the next year.
661 01:21:49.320 --> 01:21:50.190 Jo Keogh: Right, okay.
662 01:21:51.270 --> 01:22:07.710 Juan Colberg: Actually in and it depends, right. So, something will happen in big companies is that at the end of the year, we have a little bunny that we have in the US and they everybody say, Okay, let's use it. And then we start looking for places to donate funding. Right. And in that, so they can play
663 01:22:07.860 --> 01:22:09.270 Juan Colberg: Both ways, but the
664 01:22:09.510 --> 01:22:17.160 Juan Colberg: Data is the Annual. Annual year. So January to December and we start, you know, if we want for example for 2021
665 01:22:17.610 --> 01:22:26.460 Juan Colberg: To request that officially and put it in the book stack is correct. We needed to start that discussion, like, you know, right. So we put in the list.
666 01:22:26.850 --> 01:22:41.220 Juan Colberg: Start getting to the reviews. Again, their budget and doors for 2021 but if we don't get at that point and release like now where someone is still on us. You can actually go back in and get it so
667 01:22:42.360 --> 01:22:48.780 Juan Colberg: It depends. When, when you expect the donation to call them funding to to be available for
668 01:22:49.410 --> 01:22:56.490 Jack Evans: You know, and, and, and this year. This year is really wonky. And well, one. I don't know about your, your company, but
669 01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:05.100 Jack Evans: The company's I'm working with. They're, they're really wonky other budget because they've had although they've laid people off and everything else.
670 01:23:05.970 --> 01:23:18.180 Jack Evans: So they've saved money they've also had huge expenses to comply with the Coke, you know, COPPA compliance. So, a lot of them have tapped yo tapped other budgets, so they're out of money.
671 01:23:18.480 --> 01:23:31.050 Jo Keogh: If you will, for this year. Well, and I definitely understand that and I'm also not looking at this as exclusively a budgetary issue. So, for example,
672 01:23:32.100 --> 01:23:40.230 Jo Keogh: I'm thinking about the work that Paul Freeman is doing with the curriculum. Obviously, I understand that there's a budget for the curriculum.
673 01:23:41.190 --> 01:23:57.960 Jo Keogh: But the work that he's doing around the culturally responsive curriculum. I know that lies at the Guilford foundation. One of the boards that she's on and no I can't remember which one it is off the top of my head, but I know that she's started
674 01:23:59.550 --> 01:24:06.960 Jo Keogh: An intersection ality initiative with either the board of the Guilford foundation or one of the boards that she sits on in Branford
675 01:24:08.430 --> 01:24:11.220 Jo Keogh: To address systemic and equity.
676 01:24:12.360 --> 01:24:17.010 Jo Keogh: And she's involved with so much. I'm not sure which one it is, but I'm
677 01:24:21.240 --> 01:24:22.170 Jo Keogh: you're muted darlin
678 01:24:25.500 --> 01:24:27.240 noelpetra: American the boss. I'll find out
679 01:24:27.540 --> 01:24:34.920 Jo Keogh: Oh well, I don't need to know exactly what it is, but just for, you know, just for example.
680 01:24:35.970 --> 01:24:47.220 Jo Keogh: I know that there are different organizations that are implementing initiatives that are not necessarily going to have a big budgetary impact. And those are the things that
681 01:24:47.730 --> 01:24:58.170 Jo Keogh: I'm interested in learning about and just so that we as as town leadership in have a sense of what's happening across the board and share ideas and share resources.
682 01:24:58.950 --> 01:25:07.290 Jo Keogh: Sort of like what we're talking about with meeting with other human rights and human relations commissions across Connecticut, just so we can sort of bolster each other and
683 01:25:08.400 --> 01:25:14.310 Jo Keogh: Give support. That being said, I do take your point job and one about
684 01:25:15.660 --> 01:25:16.950 Jo Keogh: Paying attention to
685 01:25:18.270 --> 01:25:20.940 Jo Keogh: The second and third quarter deadlines, so
686 01:25:23.010 --> 01:25:38.250 Jo Keogh: I'll give that a little bit more thought. And if it's okay with you all, I'll come back to all with a proposal for what this might look like in terms, probably not as clear Stephanie's for clear terms by December, if that's all right.
687 01:25:39.330 --> 01:25:39.660 Jo Keogh: Yeah.
688 01:25:41.010 --> 01:25:42.420 Clarice (she/her): If I may recommend the
689 01:25:45.630 --> 01:25:49.200 Clarice (she/her): An organization for doing this kind of training.
690 01:25:50.220 --> 01:25:50.640 Clarice (she/her): Is
691 01:25:51.690 --> 01:25:53.970 Clarice (she/her): The people Institute for survival and beyond.
692 01:25:54.510 --> 01:25:55.080 Clarice (she/her): Wouldn't they
693 01:25:55.890 --> 01:25:57.870 Jo Keogh: Wouldn't be training necessarily
694 01:25:57.960 --> 01:25:59.070 Clarice (she/her): That's something
695 01:25:59.520 --> 01:26:01.080 Jo Keogh: We could talk about, for sure.
696 01:26:01.650 --> 01:26:02.190 Training.
697 01:26:03.720 --> 01:26:07.290 Clarice (she/her): You know it's they have an underlying racism workshop that it's like
698 01:26:08.790 --> 01:26:12.480 Clarice (she/her): It's it's honestly like one of the best ones I've been in
699 01:26:13.860 --> 01:26:16.230 Clarice (she/her): And it's, it's very
700 01:26:17.700 --> 01:26:20.400 Clarice (she/her): It's very good. I highly recommended. So
701 01:26:20.910 --> 01:26:25.440 Jo Keogh: That's something that I think is worth talking about, which is
702 01:26:26.940 --> 01:26:31.170 Jo Keogh: I think it'd be great to talk about this some length actually at our next meeting.
703 01:26:32.460 --> 01:26:47.880 Jo Keogh: Looking at educational programming that we want to bring to the community in 2021 and what that looks like. So that I think is a great idea that we can talk about and talk about how to provide that you know via zoom
704 01:26:48.960 --> 01:26:52.950 Jo Keogh: You know that we can apply for grants through the Guilford foundation
705 01:26:54.240 --> 01:26:56.280 Jo Keogh: For work like that. So,
706 01:26:57.810 --> 01:27:03.540 Jo Keogh: Yeah, I'd love to make that an agenda for December, if that resonates with everyone.
707 01:27:06.150 --> 01:27:06.480 Jo Keogh: Okay.
708 01:27:07.620 --> 01:27:14.670 Jo Keogh: For our regular meeting in December or not our special organizational meeting, which I know you're all very much looking forward to
709 01:27:17.610 --> 01:27:25.950 Jo Keogh: Okay, so thank you all for that. Stephanie. I'm going to flip this on back to you to bring us home with something really nice.
710 01:27:28.860 --> 01:27:29.370 Clarice (she/her): You muted.
711 01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:31.050 Juan Colberg: you're muted Oscars.
712 01:27:33.720 --> 01:27:35.400 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Girl cannot get it together tonight.
713 01:27:38.340 --> 01:27:40.050 Stephanie Brown (she/her): So thank you Joe and
714 01:27:41.820 --> 01:27:47.520 Stephanie Brown (she/her): As I was saying before, because we could do some culturally significant
715 01:27:48.570 --> 01:27:49.380 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Film nights.
716 01:27:50.550 --> 01:28:02.610 Stephanie Brown (she/her): I had an example of film. It was American History X, but that was a that was a little bit more hard hitting the Hornets ago in the beginning, but looking for suggestions of films that people
717 01:28:03.870 --> 01:28:05.550 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Have seen that they think
718 01:28:07.110 --> 01:28:16.950 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Either helps them out in a way, or made them think differently about something or just provoked them to think or feel period about things related to
719 01:28:18.060 --> 01:28:36.390 Stephanie Brown (she/her): The subjects, about which we represented, but which we care and that we want to, you know, spread awareness about in the community. So we can host them as Dr. In nights. I know that there was, there were a couple of those hosted behind St. George with a pretty decent turnout.
720 01:28:37.830 --> 01:28:43.020 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Good socially distant activity everyone stays in the car, I'd have to figure out exactly how they did.
721 01:28:44.790 --> 01:28:52.860 Stephanie Brown (she/her): The audio for everyone, but I know that a screen was provided and they were able to project it so that worked out okay.
722 01:28:53.280 --> 01:28:56.490 Juan Colberg: Yeah, and I, my son work on the organization of one of those. So I can
723 01:28:56.880 --> 01:28:58.170 Juan Colberg: Name. So the organizer that
724 01:28:58.230 --> 01:29:00.660 Juan Colberg: He was to the radio station. Basically, they argue so
725 01:29:02.220 --> 01:29:04.320 Juan Colberg: He went through one radio station and yeah
726 01:29:04.470 --> 01:29:04.620 You
727 01:29:05.760 --> 01:29:18.210 Jack Evans: Can but you can buy like a either a 70 or $100 FM transmitter that that links to the projector and broadcasts the cars use your own radio in your car.
728 01:29:18.930 --> 01:29:20.670 Jo Keogh: Nice. So
729 01:29:20.700 --> 01:29:25.320 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Yeah, you know, it would be a nice throwback thing. It's something you can still do.
730 01:29:26.610 --> 01:29:35.040 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Even when it's a little bit colder, although I don't expect people to sit with their cars, but maybe, but it can be something we do quarterly
731 01:29:35.730 --> 01:29:50.040 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Every other month but we could pick a theme, you know, for a film or two and then switch to another theme, but it would always be something that leads back to the work that we do. And hopefully, I mean, at the end of the day, all this is about
732 01:29:51.690 --> 01:30:02.310 Stephanie Brown (she/her): encouraging dialogue and interaction with others right and and learning to live with each other. So anything that can foster that or help you know just
733 01:30:03.390 --> 01:30:12.480 Stephanie Brown (she/her): make people think a little bit differently than the way they do. And when we do. I think those would be fun activities for the community, but also useful.
734 01:30:13.800 --> 01:30:17.250 Stephanie Brown (she/her): So, wondering if anyone off the top of their head has any
735 01:30:18.360 --> 01:30:22.380 Stephanie Brown (she/her): films that might be appropriate. I know I've seen a couple, but I can't think of them at the moment.
736 01:30:24.060 --> 01:30:33.540 Jo Keogh: I don't know film ideas, but I have three things that I just want to throw out there. The first is that the Guilford racial equity project.
737 01:30:34.110 --> 01:30:51.330 Jo Keogh: Is the group that did at least one of the drive ins at St. George, we started forming sort of a coalition with them and then well the car Commission sort of fell apart and they got really busy, but I have the contact information.
738 01:30:51.330 --> 01:30:52.740 Jo Keogh: For them.
739 01:30:54.120 --> 01:31:12.120 Jo Keogh: The second is that for Reese before the Commission started when we were still feel free human rights advocates put together a list of basically every month. What issues were like every month was dedicated to throughout the calendar year. So
740 01:31:12.210 --> 01:31:14.280 Jo Keogh: Possibly Black History Month.
741 01:31:16.890 --> 01:31:17.520 Clarice (she/her): Month.
742 01:31:17.580 --> 01:31:31.920 Jo Keogh: Yeah, and I know I have that with somewhere. I don't know if you do flurries. But she actually put together a whole bunch of different events for the entire calendar year based on what was going on that month so
743 01:31:33.270 --> 01:31:33.480 Jo Keogh: And the
744 01:31:34.500 --> 01:31:47.520 Jo Keogh: Pronoun it's um if it's too cold to do once it gets too cold to do. Dr. Adams we I know can host via zoom like the Netflix Netflix neat.
745 01:31:48.750 --> 01:31:55.980 Jo Keogh: Thing, they have they have this thing now on Netflix for a whole bunch of people can sign in to watch a movie at the same time.
746 01:31:57.540 --> 01:32:05.250 Jo Keogh: Like so people are all watching it together. And I'm pretty sure that we can do that via zoom. If we wanted to do something online so
747 01:32:05.760 --> 01:32:07.470 Stephanie Brown (she/her): That's a great idea.
748 01:32:07.680 --> 01:32:08.670 Jo Keogh: Just to throw that out there.
749 01:32:08.760 --> 01:32:09.750 Stephanie Brown (she/her): hadn't even thought about that.
750 01:32:11.370 --> 01:32:12.630 Jo Keogh: It's, you know, January.
751 01:32:14.490 --> 01:32:15.540 Stephanie Brown (she/her): You mean like it was
752 01:32:15.570 --> 01:32:16.050 Yesterday,
753 01:32:18.120 --> 01:32:25.110 Clarice (she/her): And in regards to that Selma was the movie that we did for Black History Month in February.
754 01:32:28.170 --> 01:32:30.570 Clarice (she/her): I mean I can, I can think of a few
755 01:32:35.310 --> 01:32:37.980 Clarice (she/her): Yeah, but I'll find I'll find that list about like
756 01:32:40.740 --> 01:32:41.340 Clarice (she/her): The different
757 01:32:42.450 --> 01:32:44.400 Clarice (she/her): Things to Come on, married or observe
758 01:32:45.120 --> 01:32:52.620 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Cool. That would be really helpful. But you said you had a couple of other film ideas or they bore. They all for Black History Month, or the other cultural
759 01:32:53.610 --> 01:33:02.460 Clarice (she/her): Um, I mean there's certainly like you know I can I can I can put a list together of Morgan, I can pick up things off the top my head, you know,
760 01:33:03.870 --> 01:33:05.850 Jo Keogh: If you want to have people just, you know, you
761 01:33:07.350 --> 01:33:08.940 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Just email me suggestions.
762 01:33:09.960 --> 01:33:25.260 Stephanie Brown (she/her): I know that your suggestion, Joe just made me think of something else that the library might possibly be able to provide us. They have a streaming account. I don't know if they have that capability that Netflix does, but I can check with them.
763 01:33:27.780 --> 01:33:35.250 Stephanie Brown (she/her): But yeah, if you have any ideas or like I said films that you've seen that you think would be beneficial or fit with this, please feel free to send them over.
764 01:33:35.730 --> 01:33:44.460 Stephanie Brown (she/her): And then Clarice if you don't mind, we can kind of go through and see which ones would be appropriate for which which month. Would that be cool.
765 01:33:44.970 --> 01:33:45.240 Yeah.
766 01:33:46.380 --> 01:33:46.740 Stephanie Brown (she/her): Cool.
767 01:33:49.740 --> 01:33:51.060 Stephanie Brown (she/her): All right, that's it for me.
768 01:33:54.240 --> 01:34:00.240 Jo Keogh: Jack Evans. Another to Jackson tonight. I know that we had talked about
769 01:34:02.250 --> 01:34:05.220 Jo Keogh: Adding human, the subject of human trafficking.
770 01:34:06.510 --> 01:34:14.970 Jo Keogh: To the agenda. I don't know if that's something that you want to discuss tonight or if you want to add that to our December.
771 01:34:16.290 --> 01:34:20.970 Jo Keogh: The agenda with some kind of proposal for how we tackle that particular subject.
772 01:34:21.870 --> 01:34:29.040 Jack Evans: I have other than the stuff I sent you. I have not done any other research. So, no, I'm not prepared at all. Oh.
773 01:34:29.070 --> 01:34:30.120 Jo Keogh: I don't have anything jack
774 01:34:31.980 --> 01:34:36.060 Jack Evans: The stuff I sent I sent you just, just what happened in the government.
775 01:34:36.750 --> 01:34:42.750 Jo Keogh: Oh, got it. Okay, um, then, should I put that into January or I'm sorry, December.
776 01:34:42.930 --> 01:34:46.470 Jack Evans: Yeah, I would say I would push it off to January.
777 01:34:46.740 --> 01:34:47.070 Okay.
778 01:34:48.420 --> 01:34:52.380 Jack Evans: I don't see, I think, December is going to be rather full
779 01:34:54.090 --> 01:34:55.710 Jo Keogh: Well, I am an enthusiast.
780 01:34:57.840 --> 01:35:05.490 Jo Keogh: But January. Sounds great. Okay, um, does anyone else have anything they would like to add say
781 01:35:07.980 --> 01:35:15.210 Jo Keogh: No. Okay, then I would like to make a motion to adjourn for the evening and I get a second
782 01:35:16.230 --> 01:35:16.530 Jo Keogh: One.
783 01:35:18.900 --> 01:35:20.430 Jo Keogh: Everybody. It's like, yes, please.
784 01:35:22.740 --> 01:35:24.900 Jo Keogh: Okay, thank you so much, everybody.
785 01:35:26.940 --> 01:35:27.630 Jo Keogh: In a few weeks.
786 01:35:44.970 --> 01:35:45.510 So,
787 01:35:47.790 --> 01:35:49.140 Jo Keogh: You have everything you need to
788 01:35:49.440 --> 01:35:58.710 9BeEQU: Yeah, I just had a really quick question. Um, Barry was the man who was going was officially attending the meeting today.
789 01:35:59.040 --> 01:36:01.020 9BeEQU: Did you want me to get his
790 01:36:01.320 --> 01:36:04.980 9BeEQU: Address somehow I'm not sure if I missed it, because I jumped into the media.
791 01:36:05.400 --> 01:36:06.960 Jo Keogh: Know you missed it, because I didn't
792 01:36:08.100 --> 01:36:16.650 9BeEQU: Oh, OK. I knew the one thing I had to make sure was the official guest of the meeting. I needed to get their name and address and I think I figured out this thing, but
793 01:36:18.450 --> 01:36:18.750 9BeEQU: I
794 01:36:19.380 --> 01:36:21.690 Jo Keogh: Don't know. I mean, I can ask him for his address.
795 01:36:22.020 --> 01:36:34.380 9BeEQU: And just shoot it to me because it's gonna take me a few days to write the notes anyways on, you know, but if you want to add that. Should I add does it actually go, should I put it in the record or should we just have it on file.
796 01:36:35.190 --> 01:36:39.240 Jo Keogh: Yeah, I don't know about putting it on public record.
797 01:36:39.270 --> 01:36:40.110 9BeEQU: Yeah, they
798 01:36:40.230 --> 01:36:41.520 Jo Keogh: Kind of weird to me.
799 01:36:41.550 --> 01:36:47.010 9BeEQU: Right. What do you want to just keep it in the gh RC files as
800 01:36:47.520 --> 01:36:56.970 9BeEQU: For the internal procedure, but just in case we ever need it. All right. I just wanted to make sure you didn't need it for another purpose and I needed to do something official
801 01:36:57.390 --> 01:37:02.520 Jo Keogh: No, no, I don't think so. It wouldn't make sense. I'm just trying to think about how to keep
802 01:37:02.610 --> 01:37:15.390 9BeEQU: Or I can keep a log. If you want to get the information to me and I can keep a log and just attach it in my binder to what ends up being the draft minutes
803 01:37:15.660 --> 01:37:16.080 9BeEQU: Okay.
804 01:37:16.320 --> 01:37:17.610 Jo Keogh: Something that just
805 01:37:18.510 --> 01:37:19.830 9BeEQU: I'll keep it in the binder.
806 01:37:20.100 --> 01:37:25.230 Jo Keogh: As long as somebody has it somewhere. And it's probably better if you do because you seem more organized but
807 01:37:26.820 --> 01:37:33.660 9BeEQU: My, my binder, by the way, is getting very full. So I need to the next size for next year.
808 01:37:35.370 --> 01:37:35.850 Jo Keogh: Well, that
809 01:37:36.210 --> 01:37:37.710 Jo Keogh: You can deduct that and so that's fun.
810 01:37:39.120 --> 01:37:43.350 9BeEQU: Yes. Yes. Alright, so I'll see you in a couple weeks.
811 01:37:43.440 --> 01:37:46.410 9BeEQU: Yes, we ended up sound like it's a public meeting. So should I
812 01:37:46.470 --> 01:37:51.090 9BeEQU: plan on taking notes just like tonight or just making it a public. Okay.
813 01:37:51.180 --> 01:37:53.070 Jo Keogh: Yeah, I think we actually need minutes
814 01:37:54.990 --> 01:38:02.250 Jo Keogh: Yeah, so one and I have just about finished with that agenda. We're, we're sort of doing them together. Now in Google Docs.
815 01:38:03.120 --> 01:38:04.230 Jo Keogh: I don't know if you want
816 01:38:04.740 --> 01:38:06.480 Jo Keogh: Wonder well
817 01:38:07.110 --> 01:38:13.170 9BeEQU: Yeah, that's fine. We haven't tell if it's immediate we technically I mean you have until the day before.
818 01:38:13.680 --> 01:38:14.340 Jo Keogh: Yeah, I
819 01:38:14.700 --> 01:38:16.200 9BeEQU: But I know for the committee.
820 01:38:16.290 --> 01:38:18.210 9BeEQU: Especially if you have attachments. It's
821 01:38:18.480 --> 01:38:19.920 9BeEQU: Right to just
822 01:38:20.490 --> 01:38:25.530 Jo Keogh: Dump it. Yeah. And I do want to get some attachments. So I'll get that to probably, you know,
823 01:38:26.220 --> 01:38:27.600 Jo Keogh: Next, it
824 01:38:27.810 --> 01:38:28.140 Jo Keogh: By the
825 01:38:28.200 --> 01:38:29.400 9BeEQU: weeks from now.
826 01:38:29.970 --> 01:38:30.570 Jo Keogh: This December.
827 01:38:30.630 --> 01:38:32.370 Jo Keogh: 8 so there's like
828 01:38:32.520 --> 01:38:35.880 2121
829 01:38:36.930 --> 01:38:37.830 9BeEQU: It's a little over
830 01:38:38.400 --> 01:38:40.860 9BeEQU: Three weeks. So you have some time.
831 01:38:41.160 --> 01:38:41.790 Jo Keogh: Yeah, okay.
832 01:38:42.330 --> 01:38:43.380 9BeEQU: So it's not okay.
833 01:38:44.490 --> 01:38:46.860 Jo Keogh: Great. We'll get that to you by the week after Thanksgiving.
834 01:38:47.100 --> 01:38:50.820 9BeEQU: Yeah, yeah, whatever works for you is fine. All right.
835 01:38:51.000 --> 01:38:51.690 9BeEQU: Thank you.
836 01:38:52.620 --> 01:38:54.120 9BeEQU: For now, okay, YouTube. Bye.