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Wednesday, 13 July 2005 13 Jul 2005 Estimates Committee F—Transport and Main Roads 1 WEDNESDAY, 13 JULY 2005 Assembly ESTIMATES COMMITTEE F—TRANSPORT AND MAIN ROADS Estimates Committee F Members Mr AI McNamara (Chair) Mr GB Fenlon Mr SA Knuth Mr JD O’Brien Miss EM Roberts Miss FS Simpson Mr GJ Wilson In Attendance Hon. PT Lucas, Minister for Transport and Main Roads Queensland Rail Mr B Scheuber, Chief Executive Officer Queensland Transport Mr B Wilson, Director-General Mr D Hunt, Deputy Director-General Ms H Stehbens, Executive Director, Rail Ports and Freight Ms C Brunjes, Director, Finance Department of Main Roads Mr A Tesch, Director-General (Acting) Ms D Anderson, General Manager, Corporate Services Mr B Drew, Executive Director, South East Queensland Mrs K Peut, Executive Director, Roads Program Committee met at 8.29 am CHAIR: Good morning, everyone. I declare this hearing of Estimates Committee F now open. On behalf of the committee I welcome Minister Paul Lucas, departmental officers and members of the public to the hearing. I would like to introduce the members of the committee. I am Andrew McNamara, member for Hervey Bay, the chair of the committee; Miss Fiona Simpson, the member for Maroochydore, is the deputy chair; the other committee members are Mr Gary Fenlon, member for Greenslopes; Mr Shane Knuth, member for Charters Towers; Mr Jason O’Brien, member for Cook; Miss Elisa Roberts, member for Gympie; and Mr Geoff Wilson, member for Ferny Grove. The committee will examine the proposed expenditure contained in the Appropriation Bill 2005 for the areas set out in the order of appointment dated 11 May 2005. The committee will examine the organisational units in the following order: the departments of Transport and Main Roads, the departments of Communities, Disability Services and Seniors, the Department of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Policy and then the Department of Energy. The committee will suspend proceedings for the following breaks: morning tea from 10 till 10.15 am, another break from 11.45 to 11.50 am, lunch from 12.50 till 1.50 pm, afternoon tea from 3.50 until 4 pm and then a final break from 5.30 till 5.45 pm. I remind all of those participating in the hearing today that these proceedings are similar to parliament to the extent that the public cannot participate in the proceedings. In this regard I remind members of the public that under the standing orders the public may be admitted to or excluded from the hearing at the discretion of the committee. The committee has resolved that television footage without sound be allowed for the opening statements by the chair and the minister. I ask that any mobile phones or pagers be switched off or switched to silent mode. 2 Estimates Committee F—Transport and Main Roads 13 Jul 2005 I remind members of the committee and the minister that the time limit for questions is one minute. Answers are to be no longer than three minutes. A single chime will give a 15-second warning and a double chime will sound at the end of each of these time limits. An extension of time may be given with the consent of the questioner. A double chime will sound two minutes after an extension of time has been given. Sessional orders require that at least half of the time available for questions and answers be allocated to non-government members. Any time expended when the committee deliberates in private is to be equally apportioned between government and non-government members. The committee has given leave for non-committee members to ask ministers questions. The following persons will also be participating in today’s hearing on this basis: Dr Bruce Flegg, the member for Moggill; Mr Vaughan Johnson, the member for Gregory; Ms Rosemary Menkens, the member for Burdekin and Mr Jeff Seeney, the member for Callide. I ask departmental officers to identify themselves when they first come forward to answer a question if the minister refers a question to them so that Hansard can record their name. I now declare the proposed expenditure for the departments of Transport and Main Roads open for examination. The time allocated is three hours. The question before the committee is— That the proposed expenditure be agreed to. Minister, if you wish to make an opening statement please do so now. If you wish to split your statement for Transport and Main Roads there will still be a five-minute total for that statement. Thank you. Mr LUCAS: Thank you, Mr Chair. Good morning, Mr Chair and committee members. I thank you for the opportunity to be here today. Queensland is facing many challenges. With more than 1,000 people moving here each week, we need to plan now and for the future. Transport will play an increasingly important role in the future of Queensland. Our greatest challenge is to provide a transport system that will meet the expected growth of a state that is the second largest in area, the third largest in population. We have transport plans and visions. They are our working blueprints for the future. We are putting infrastructure in place now that will take us well into the future, and we have a good, solid budget to back it up. The 2005-06 state budget delivers an operating budget of $3 billion for the Transport and Main Roads portfolio—a $3 billion investment in our future growth and prosperity. It also provides a record $2.83 billion for capital investment works injected into roads, rail, public transport and port infrastructure; $1.58 billion for Queensland Transport, Rail and ports; and $1.25 billion for Main Roads. That is an increase of $484 million or 44 per cent for Queensland Transport, Rail and ports and $440 million or 54 per cent for Main Roads on last year’s budget, and a 57 per cent increase in the state-funded regional roads programs in the 1997-98 budget under the coalition. The $3 billion portfolio operating budget includes $1.8 billion for Queensland Transport and $1.2 billion for Main Roads. The Beattie government is determined to deliver the best possible transport outcomes for all Queenslanders. We will work with the private sector, the community and with other levels of government on the planning and management of our road network. I would like to say at the outset that much has been said about stone mastic asphalt and its use on Queensland roads—some mischievous, some mistaken. When safety concerns about SMA were first brought to my attention, I acted swiftly and openly. I ordered a safety audit into that section of the highway around Federal. As a result of preliminary findings, I commissioned a broader investigation and appointed two independent experts widely acknowledged and accepted as leaders in their field. It must be said that SMA is not a cheap alternative: it is 30 to 40 per cent more expensive and it is not something unique to Queensland. It is used extensively and safely throughout Europe and the US. It is also used in Victoria and New South Wales. Investigators identified a number of contributing factors in the tragic accident near Federal in May. It should not be said that stone mastic asphalt on the road surface was solely responsible for the accident. Spurious claims by the opposition about SMA have only served to cause unnecessary angst in the community. They have behaved recklessly and irresponsibly. I also instructed my director-general to make available all documentation on stone mastic asphalt held by Main Roads for the independent reviewer. Queensland has seen a 23 per cent reduction in our fatality rate per 100,000 since 1997, and we have given a commitment to work harder to reduce it further. Now some comments about Queensland Transport. With me today is my director-general, Bruce Wilson, my deputy director-general, Dan Hunt, and also Helen Stehbens, executive director, rail, ports and freight, and Bob Scheuber, CEO of QR. Queensland Transport operates in a challenging environment. On the one hand, south-east Queensland has the highest population growth of any urban area in Australia and that is the impetus for our South-East Queensland Regional Plan. Mr Chair, there was just one issue in relation to questions on notice that I wanted to raise. How would you like me to do that? CHAIR: Just put it. 13 Jul 2005 Estimates Committee F—Transport and Main Roads 3 Mr LUCAS: I would just like to add some additional information to the answer I provided to the non-government question on notice number 6 regarding rail incidents. The answer I provided—that Queensland has not had any train passenger or employee fatalities since 1985—targeted fatalities resulting from train crashes and it should therefore have said that Queensland has not had any train passenger or employee fatalities since 1985 as a result of a train crash. In fact, the last train crash resulting in a passenger or employee fatality occurred in 1985 at Trinder Park. A small number of other fatalities have occurred associated with train operations since 1985 but not resulting from train crashes. One other passenger fatality has occurred since that time in 1993 as the ultimate result of a woman getting caught in train doors at Altandi station. There have been no employee fatalities as a result of train operations since the time of rail safety accreditation in 1997. I just wanted to clarify that. QR’s safety record remains the envy of the rest of Australia. CHAIR: Thank you, minister. I might just ask the research director to note that little bit of time.
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