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House of Commons Debates VOLUME 148 Ï NUMBER 350 Ï 1st SESSION Ï 42nd PARLIAMENT OFFICIAL REPORT (HANSARD) Tuesday, November 6, 2018 Speaker: The Honourable Geoff Regan CONTENTS (Table of Contents appears at back of this issue.) 23303 HOUSE OF COMMONS Tuesday, November 6, 2018 The House met at 10 a.m. [Translation] COMMITTEES OF THE HOUSE CANADIAN HERITAGE Prayer Ms. Julie Dabrusin (Toronto—Danforth, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to present, in both official languages, the 15th report of the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage entitled “Bill ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS C-391, An Act Respecting a National Strategy for the Repatriation of Aboriginal Cultural Property”. The committee has studied the bill Ï (1005) and has decided to report the bill back to the House with amendments. [English] [English] PARLIAMENTARY BUDGET OFFICER While I am on my feet, I move: The Speaker: Pursuant to section 79.2(2) of the Parliament of That the House do now proceed to orders of the day. Canada Act, it is my duty to present to the House a report from the Parliamentary Budget Officer entitled, “The Strategic Personnel The Speaker: The question is on the motion. Is it the pleasure of Generation Model (SPGM) Version 1.0”. the House to adopt the motion? Some hon. members: Agreed. *** Some hon. members: No. GOVERNMENT RESPONSE TO PETITIONS Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Parliamentary Secretary to the The Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.): yea. Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8) I have the honour to Some hon. members: Yea. table, in both official languages, the government's response to 15 petitions. The Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay. *** Some hon. members: Nay. [Translation] The Speaker: In my opinion the yeas have it. POVERTY REDUCTION ACT And five or more members having risen: Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos (Minister of Families, Children and The Speaker: Call in the members. Social Development, Lib.) moved for leave to introduce Bill C-87, Ï (1040) An Act respecting the reduction of poverty. [Translation] (Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed) (The House divided on the motion, which was agreed to on the *** following division:) [English] (Division No. 927) INTERPARLIAMENTARY DELEGATIONS YEAS Ms. Yasmin Ratansi (Don Valley East, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, Members pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), I have the honour to present to the Aldag Amos Anandasangaree Arseneault House, in both official languages, the report of the Canadian Arya Ayoub delegation of the Commonwealth Parliamentary Association respect- Badawey Bagnell Bains Baylis ing its participation at the Commonwealth Parliamentary Forum held Bennett Bibeau in London, United Kingdom, from February 26 to March 1, 2018. Bittle Blair 23304 COMMONS DEBATES November 6, 2018 Speaker's Ruling Boissonnault Bossio NAYS Bratina Breton Caesar-Chavannes Carr Members Casey (Cumberland—Colchester) Casey (Charlottetown) Aboultaif Albas Chagger Champagne Albrecht Alleslev Chen Cuzner Allison Angus Dabrusin Damoff Arnold Aubin DeCourcey Dhaliwal Barlow Barsalou-Duval Dhillon Drouin Beaulieu Bergen Dubourg Duclos Berthold Bezan Duguid Duncan (Etobicoke North) Blaikie Blaney (North Island—Powell River) Dzerowicz Easter Blaney (Bellechasse—Les Etchemins—Lévis) Block Ehsassi El-Khoury Boucher Boutin-Sweet Ellis Erskine-Smith Brassard Brosseau Eyking Eyolfson Calkins Cannings Fergus Fillmore Caron Carrie Finnigan Fisher Chong Choquette Fonseca Fortier Clarke Clement Fragiskatos Fraser (West Nova) Cooper Davies Fraser (Central Nova) Fry Deltell Diotte Fuhr Garneau Donnelly Dubé Gerretsen Goldsmith-Jones Eglinski Falk (Battlefords—Lloydminster) Falk (Provencher) Fast Goodale Gould Garrison Généreux Graham Grewal Genuis Gladu Hajdu Hardie Godin Gourde Harvey Hébert Hardcastle Hughes Hehr Hogg Jeneroux Johns Holland Housefather Jolibois Julian Hussen Hutchings Kelly Kent Iacono Joly Kitchen Kmiec Jones Jordan Kusie Kwan Jowhari Khalid Leitch Liepert Khera Lambropoulos Lloyd Lobb Lametti Lamoureux Lukiwski MacGregor Lapointe Lauzon (Argenteuil—La Petite-Nation) MacKenzie Maguire LeBlanc Lebouthillier Malcolmson Marcil Lefebvre Leslie Martel Masse (Windsor West) Levitt Lightbound Mathyssen May (Saanich—Gulf Islands) Long Longfield McCauley (Edmonton West) McLeod (Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo) Ludwig MacKinnon (Gatineau) Motz Nantel Maloney Massé (Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia) Nater Nicholson Nuttall Obhrai May (Cambridge) McCrimmon O'Toole Paul-Hus McDonald McGuinty Pauzé Poilievre McKay McKenna Quach Ramsey McKinnon (Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam) McLeod (Northwest Territories) Rankin Rayes Mendicino Mihychuk Reid Rempel Miller (Ville-Marie—Le Sud-Ouest—Île-des-Soeurs) Richards Sansoucy Monsef Saroya Schmale Morneau Morrissey Shields Shipley Nassif Nault Sopuck Stanton Ng O'Connell Ste-Marie Stetski Oliphant Oliver Strahl Stubbs O'Regan Ouellette Tilson Trost Peschisolido Peterson Trudel Van Kesteren Petitpas Taylor Philpott Viersen Wagantall Picard Poissant Warawa Warkentin Qualtrough Ratansi Waugh Webber Rioux Robillard Wong Yurdiga–— 114 Rodriguez Rogers Romanado Rota PAIRED Rudd Ruimy Nil Sahota Saini Sajjan Samson The Speaker: I declare the motion carried. Sangha Sarai Scarpaleggia Schiefke *** Schulte Serré (1045) Sgro Shanahan Ï Sheehan Sidhu (Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon) [English] Sidhu (Brampton South) Sikand Simms Sohi POINTS OF ORDER Sorbara Spengemann Tabbara Tan MEETING OF THE CANADIAN NATO PARLIAMENTARY ASSOCIATION— Tassi Tootoo SPEAKER'S RULING Trudeau Vandal Vandenbeld Vaughan The Speaker: I am now prepared to rule on the point of order Virani Whalen raised raised on October 31, 2018, by the hon. member for Perth— Wilkinson Wilson-Raybould Wrzesnewskyj Yip Wellington, concerning the meeting of the Canadian NATO Young Zahid–— 170 Parliamentary Association held on October 30, 2018. November 6, 2018 COMMONS DEBATES 23305 Speaker's Ruling [Translation] [Translation] I would like to thank the member for Perth—Wellington for Let me begin by saying that I take great pride in the role played having raised this matter, as well as the Parliamentary Secretary to by Parliament as an active participant on the international scene and the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons and the as a leader in parliamentary democracy. This notable work by our members for Chilliwack—Hope, Durham, Cape Breton—Canso, parliamentarians is achieved through various avenues, including our Kitchener—Conestoga, Langley—Aldergrove, Prince Albert, Cal- well respected parliamentary associations and interparliamentary gary Nose Hill, Mégantic—L'Érable, Brandon—Souris, Etobicoke- groups. Centre, Moose Jaw—Lake Centre—Lanigan, Kamloops—Thomp- son—Cariboo, Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman, Elmwood—Transcona Complementary to that is the Speaker’s role in parliamentary and West Nova for their comments. democracy, with respect to which House of Commons Procedure and [English] Practice, third edition, states at page 311: When raising the matter, the member for Perth—Wellington &the Speaker is the representative or spokesperson for the House in its relations with authorities or persons outside Parliament. explained that during the meeting of the Canadian NATO Parliamentary Association held on October 30, a point of order [English] was raised about the validity of the meeting. He added that the chair of the association, who is the member for Aurora—Oak Ridges— Does this distinct role of the Speaker then intersect in such a way Richmond Hill, ruled that the meeting had not been properly with Standing Order 151 as to grant the Speaker the authority being constituted and therefore adjourned the meeting. The member for sought? That rule states: Perth—Wellington alleged that one of the vice-chairs, the member The Clerk of the House is responsible for the safekeeping of all the papers and for Etobicoke Centre, reconvened the group and held an illegitimate records of the House, and has the direction and control over all the officers and clerks meeting during which a motion was passed to remove the chair and employed in the offices, subject to such orders as the Clerk may, from time to time, elect the presiding vice-chair as the new chair. receive from the Speaker or the House. With the website of the association having been updated in Specifically, does this translate, in this instance, to an authority consequence, the member for Perth—Wellington asked that, over parliamentary association matters? Associations, unlike com- pursuant to Standing Order 151, the Speaker order the Clerk of mittees, are not “creatures” of the House. In fact, the Standing the House to undo the changes made to the parliamentary records on Orders fall just short of being silent about them, with only Standing the association's website and to advise the NATO Parliamentary Order 34(1) requiring them to report their activities to the House Assembly that the member for Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond upon their return to Canada following a trip abroad. Hill would remain the chair and the head of Canada's delegation at Ï (1050) the 2018 session to be held in Halifax from November 16 to 19, 2018. [Translation] [Translation] Parliamentary committees, in contrast, are created by the House In addressing the matter again on November 5, he explained and empowered by its Standing Orders. Even then, as they are further in what ways he felt that the provisions of the association's generally masters of their own proceedings, the Speaker does not constitution had been violated, including