Lipîon and His Yacht Will Try Again Special Cable Service. Neto York Tribune (Copyright, 1919, New York Tribune Inc.) LONDON, October 18. The TE had many a try and many a defeat," said Sir Thomas Llpton in an interview to-day with Resolute: The Tribune correspondent, "but thia time I think I have got them." "I Sir Thomas thus indicated .the optimism with which he regarda the chances of Shamrock IV WH/Ctf IVO/V in the coming America'a Cup races off Sandy Hook. //WS or "I don't think there is any doubt that the challenge will be accepted," he said, "nor that this will be my time. Of course, the best boat is going to win, but I can say my boat is going to turn the trick. THSTWZLVS I have every confidence in Captain Burton, who will sail Shamrock. He is an amateur, but has sailed je/JCSS //V more than a thousand races and has established a famous record. "Shamrock, as you know, was on her way to America when the war began, and has been laid up ""X /Q/S /7 ever since. But Mr. Nicholson cabled me before he sailed from America that she has had the best of care and is in the best possible condition. That is all I want to know. "The American cup defender was built before the war, about the same time as the Shamrock, so there won't be any advantage In point of age for either boat. "I have sailed .Shamrock IV up and down the coast of England and am convinced she Is the best boat afloat. I've another Shamrock which I will send across some time before the date set for the races

and which will act as a trial horse." .. t Sir Thomas is anxious to know as early as possible what date will be set for the races next year. "There is one thing I want to.say as emphatically as possible," he continued. "That is the mag¬ nificent treatment I have always received at the hands of the New York Yacht Club. I have always been given the best of everything. Perhaps in the past there have been a few mistakes, but they have generally been in my favor. I have sailed yachts in a great many places, but nowhere have I been better treated and there is nowhere I would rather sail than under the auspices of the New York Yacht Club." The Irish yachtsman is uncertain when he will go to America He may not go until shortly before the races next year. There will be a lot of British money up on Shamrock TV nejct year. She has been much of a mystery to the British public, but the secrets of her construction «are now coming out.

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has spared neither pains nor money Nicholson had been shrouied n in the attempt to consummate his mystery, and it was not until she ambition. slid down the ways that t.ngli:.n After working as a messenger boy yachting enthusiasts perceive«! that in Glasgow for several years young ¡ill British building precedent hf.d ! "Tammas" disappeared, and the next been shattered and that an English¬ his parents heard of him he was in man "had dared to do something. America, where he had gone down to original." Charleston during the reconstruction period. Eventually he shipped to The Shamrock New York, and after studying Charles E. Nicholson on Yankee methods here and in New Recently j a visit to the United States was pre¬ England he returned to his native vailed heath. upon to tell of the construc¬ There he induced his father tion of the Shamrock IV. He saM: to a open provision shop, the trepida- "The challenger is the first boat ever built in England under the American measurement rule. She differs greatly from the Resolute at.d Vanitie. "Shamrock, although a composite boat, is virtually a wooden one She has a multi-skin planking of thn c thicknesses. The two inner are diagonal, and the outer one runs fore arid aft. She has no tim¬ bers or frames, in the ordinary Bense, and but few wob frames, widely spaced. Some of these frames are of steel and others of aluminum. Instead of ordinary frames she has longitudinal wood stringers. "Her deck is very light, of p'y /.£r¿V/7ArCJSr wood covered with canvas. M I .-._- her deck beams ere of wood. Her *v*/ch ru/svero &stc/r 7W£- coA/7i^Aro£-/s #/ /SO3 steel sheer strake and dec* stringer plate are those usually worked il 0 composite yachts. The challenger came across the Atlantic without any damage or straining of the Perseverance Has Won Him Riches slightest. "Her mast, instead of being steel, Will Perseverance Win Him is a hollow wood one, and it n >t even Races? braced with steel. It is the b ggest hollow wood spar ever made. "She has a much fuller bow then / / TT 'D GIVE ."rasw^*^4Ä^4ÄS^^^. the defender and is keeled my la?t shilling to bundle of nautical invincibility, off ts/£t longer * win the America's 77,£:Co¿uH0/sis ae.xo. o/-ve99 '«»o /So/. &**,,**& s*Q. ^.c* than she is. Cup." Sandy Hook/ "Her n These aluminum frame? are words were * It was to have been the fourth perfect condition. Si me " ipokcn In 1914 that host ! should been by of Liptonian to have taught an indls- I gift rather than the universal rules i amassed a aluminum deck fastening? will bave ; attempt take back to tremendous fortune, estl- I interesting career that once in 1901,' fions of the elder f-enJa'ity, the saltiest of gay sea the pensable lesson. which have been rather mated at Lipton being over- to be renewed, but that is all. il'r tight little island the most cele- assiduously $50,000,000, in the tea, when business troubles pyramided come his son's Sir Thomi-'fl Johnstone After the armistice the Irish bar- espoused by .Sir Thomas. j by arguments to such giant wooden mast was exai ogs, Lipton. brated international coffee, candy and packing business, and stockholders of the tea an yachting tro- ¡ onet again But it was With compa¬ extent that he ventured £80 in in are Picture a rather tall challenged. nothing to interfere, Sir and his charities had caueed him to nies just time to save it; her sails gentleman, ] phy. In 1899, again in 1901 and In too soon, the New York Yacht Club Thomas complained, one of them after a the alluring picture that skin Lipton's fourth attempt to be known as an international figure. Lipton in good condition and will be used whose has been whipped brown 1903 Sir Thomas and I thought, and the was tem- stormy meeting shouted: the younger his especially challenge lift the America's Cup should be It is an epic task he baa chosen, "Never mind verbally painted. again." by the whose mus- porarily with the the company. Bring The provision was a success. winds, flowing constructed Shamrocks, with their rejected, promiso sailed next summer, probably in that of building a yacht in shop The America's Cup contmitt**» that in 1920 a similar England, back the cup!" worked tache, tinged wj*.h gray, cannot dim natty skippers, had fulled to overture June, with Shamrock IV.which the bringing it to America under its Young Lipton night and day which includes L. C. LeJyunj, J "bring would no doubt be not A love of the sea is inborn. to make it so. the Imtre of an given unfa¬ Irish sportsman has own always E. I). C. Oliver Iseüo, Irish smile, who home the bacon." vorable consideration. already desig¬ sail, creating it swift, yet sea- It is man's harkback to the atavistic man; Morgan, nated as his . From such humble walk» with the yacht competing worthy, and competing tho or beginning was W. B. Duncan, C. Ledyard Blair, just hint of a sailor's War came. a That time has arrived. against the amphibious. in Like peal of thun¬ The New against the Resolute, which was com- honest nnd fastest Early life, there created a chain of stores that Dallas B. Pratt and Grenville Kane, roll an-i who<*e the York Club creations when he was a messenger for a eyes carry half- der it rumbled across and j Yacht is in receipt of .Sir pleted in 1914 to defend the j boy encircled tho globe, there in have the in »H Europe Thomas cup. brought out of the drafting stationer in Glasgow, being intimated that cup roguish twinkle of eternal youth, echoed to The Upton's latest challenge, j rooms of American Three Tommy Lipton l'.îbO a total of 420 Lipton establish¬ will be defended \¡S England. Briton and in course designers. exhibited this love of probability and that is Sir duo arrangements will The Man times a surpassing the ments in and the vie* Thomas. his and tea to don Shamrock has come over sea and England colonies, the Resolute or the Vanitie. In dropped sports have been completed cgain to defend Sir Thomas spent such time as he could of were At the tim* Upton is in his sixty- tho seas, and three times a Co¬ .sixty which in London. of the fact that in 1915 the Res-J- he spoke of his last khaki and shoulder a gun. Yacht the which the America won conveniently spare among the piers cup off eighth year. Burn in 18.11 of poor lumbia or a Reliance has turned her No end of interest centred in lute won nine and the Vanitie thr>e íhill ng tbfl Shamrock IV was in mid- and other fn the and wharves where boats that sailed racing alTablo diversions Cowes, England, historic race Irish parents, pursuing a nomadic back.the last time in the construction of Shamrock of twelve races in which W*** the 1903.but the seven seas came to port they Atlantlc, being convoyed hither by were sent into limbo to await that against English in 1855. Theie career in his youth which brought those repetitivo IV, which was launched at Ports¬ entered, tho defence is obviou.-ly u» will be no disappointments He said then nnd he declared often the Lipton steam deviation from the usual him over the seas and into have served as a mouth Harbor in May, and yacht Erin, where day when a nation that had never America, only stimulus to thereafter that some ho would 1914, good hands. îri provisions for the race, which means as he he Sir Thomas's day which was dubbed September it was to have com¬ learned to love or to where, said, loarned the ambition. own promptly Lip- But whichever way the race goes aporta play that the two will race "tho finest, fastest sailing yacht ton's "nautical pete.'] the yachts under value of "shrewd enterprise," before This dominating has crime." the return of Sir Thomas Johnston« against Resolute, a little them as England and America did tlio rule;! laid down in the deed of impulse be- afloat," and /certainly .since his The and reaching the ago of liRy he had come so much a part of Sir Thomas's flnancea have designing construction Lipton in the rôle of challenge; will warranted an effort he of the challenger by Charles E. be welcomed.