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records. Does anything stand this •••• I never thought any- that's what I did. I went out, I mean, I don't even body would ever do anything I home and studied, And when know what to ask you because ever done. You don't remember I got to where I figured I the list would be too long ·a artist. Whose going could compete with him, he and it might begin to bore to do what I do? They give died, and they chose me to you, I don't know. Is there me this 700 pounds and I was write "The Death of Blind anything that stands out as walkin' around •.•• I didn't Boy Fuller". Interview: far as records or playing know what to do with it, JZ: But that gave you your with people? 'cause it was money that I never even dreamed of making introduction to Sonny and BM: Well, making my first 'cause it was a whole lot of you two •••• record with Pop Foster who's money. 700 pounds in England an old bass player who used at that time, 158, that's a BM: Well, I met Sonny after to be in Duke Ellington's lot of money, man, and they that. Fuller didn't die wth Brownie McGhee band •••. and I did a song come out with the sheet money right away. I drove the car called "Sportin' Life," and up from North Carolina to ·iike •••• and that's what your teeth, you got to stand and these guys sued me. The JZ: You used to sing at I did it because I wanted lawsuit is still pending. and New York, and I strike rallies and .•.••• the blues was. The blues is in line to pee. But we'd to preserve it because of a used to take him up, but I .double entendre speakin', all eat at the table and we letter I got from my mother. never was in a recording BM: Oh yeah everythin', I talkin' about one thing and shared the money that we And I wrote a song and I JZ: Let me ask you one more studio with him. And Sonny didn't care what it was. I meaning something else. But made and paid the rent and called it "A Letter From My thing, and I ••• If you don't didn't make any records with appreciated doing them. I , now you can come out and whatnot. Leadbelly came Mother", and somehow I didn't want to answer it you don't me behind •• ,first record we didn't ask people what it was tell it like it is. over and saw us one time and like the title. And I re- have to answer it, but I'd ever made was "Workin' Man's about, I'd just do it. said, "You all comin' to corded for a company there like to know exactly what's Blues", and we didn't start ) ' JZ: At that time there were live with me and Baby." He which opened up and I re- going on between Brownie :recording together until we JZ: Really? 'Guz I remember other cats around the scene calls his wife "Baby", corded for them, and I did McGhee and Sonny Terry. moved to New York. But the :readi?lfi that you sang out. who are the Woody Guthries, ,Martha. He says, "You all "Sportin' Life Blues" with thing that's wropg is we against, you know, fascism Pete Seegers, Josh White can come over and live with Pop Foster. It turned out BM: Me an' Sonny's never don't communicate. We never and oppression; and was it Junior's dad, and those kind us. I know you ain't gettin' to be a masterpiece. I've been partners. We've backed could communicate. This is more just the doin' the of people. the right food!" You know, got about 7 artists in Eng- up one another for the last what people don't understand, singin' or was it .•.•.•• pumpernickel bread and eggs land did that. What stands 4o years. It's not much to It's very hard when you're BM: Yeah we were all to- wasn't my bag but I was doin' out is I really thought I talk about. We' re both are an artist. You can't take a BM: Well, I wrote songs to gether. the best I could. He says created the music but it was individuals. He's not in my man out of his bag. Sonny that against the war and you don't have to pay any Duke Ellington's melody. bag and I'm not in his bag, plays what he wants to, and everything else, you know, I JZ: And you were living rent, but you can come over (big luagh) and we've just that •••• We if he don't play what he wants wrote songs. We didn't have with another cat who's a and live with me and when started playin' on the to play, he can't play, see. to write songs, we had songs. guy we play at the radio you make a little. money, give JZ: You haven't got a better streets together after Fuller And I'm the same way too, see. All blues is a protest. station all the time, and it to Baby and she'll cook man you could have stolen a died, A talent scout asked I'm not a ••• I'm not a That's why it's true. People you lived with him. His for us. melody from. could I, would I see if I musician, I'm an entertainer. think blues is •.•••• name was Huddie Ledbetter. could do something for Sonny. It's a hell of a thing to get JZ: Put it in the pot? BM: I got .••• well, the It wasn't me: I'm goin' in a musician. Difference be- JZ: Lookin' at your shirt BM: Oh, yeah I lived with thing about it was, I really another direction now, tween a nusician and an enter- right there man, what does Leadbelly for about 2 years BM: And I enjoyed it. He didn't know it, see I heaM 'cause ..... tainer is the musician plays it say? in N.Y. I met him in Wash- was a real nice man. I it in 1929 during the Depres- behind anybody who gives him ington. He was on the can't say anything about sion. It was called the JZ: You were fillin' in for a sheet, and tell you you're BM: "Blues is Truth" That's same concert as Paul Robe- Lead. He was underestimated "House Rent Party Blues", Blind Boy Fuller, right? wrong. all it is. See what I mean? son. by a lot of people, by peo- but there was no lyrics to But me, I feel what I play In every blues you can find ple that didn't know him. A it but it was a beautiful BM: I wasn't ••• hell no, and play what I feel, and so a touch of resentment; JZ: What did you get or lot of fictitious things tune. It lingered with me cuz he didn't do nothin' but does Sonny. I'm· an entertainer. you're talking about things, what happened during the wrote about him, and that I until 1 43 or somewhere along just blow the harp behind When we'd get off the stage, · how you've been treated ••••• time you lived with Lead- didn't like. If you know a there. I really thought I Fuller. I made records under you go your way and I'd go whiskey, women and money is, belly? man, you won't say things wrote that, man; that was my for my benefit; they called mine, See, I drink and you know, blues is based on. and if you don't know him, song. That was my music and me Blind Boy Fuller No. 2, smoke. I'm a party man, But that's not the only BM: He was absolutely •••. you'll do anything for a I wrote some lyrics to it which my daddy resented. But see. And he doesn't do thing they mean; that's He knew that we were, ••• gimmick. He was really good. called "Sportin' Life", And it wasn't a liability; it that. So I'm not gonna let crutches. We use them as We needed a little more He loved children and he soon as these records come was an asset, But people . my life go down the drain- -. ~,• crutches. Now you can say than we were getting there loved people, but he didn't out of these 5 artists in looked down there and found anything you want to. You 'cause we were living in a take no BULLSHIT from nobody. recorded I got a lawsuit Brownie McGhee in little JZ: I hope you keep on don't have to use them; you loft with all the folk And they talk about him against me. (laughs) I went bitty small letters (laughs~ going. can say THE THING. It's singers they called 'em, bein' .... "It's better to over there and they give me But I lived there because I come out to where you can such as Pete Seeger, and kill than to die." They al- 700 pounds. That was my knew goddamn well I could be BM: Well, I don't party say rr:HE THING; you don't Burl Ives (laughs) Guthries ways told the one-sided story advance on that tune. Fab- a better player than much now. I'm gettin' old have to go around and give and all the people. We all of Leadbelly. "He was a ulous record. You know, I him because when I met Fuller now. I want to stay here a woman a third degree when had a big loft there on 6th MURDERER. " But you know, if got my copyright together, he says "Man, you can sing a while, so I relax more you know you don't mean it. Ave. downtown in the village. you don't harm, if you don't and 2 guys walked up and but you can't play" and I now. No woman has treated me as And we just had a little protect yourself, who's their copyright was a year says, "You're a goddamn liar. bad as some of the blues. channel between one bathroom going to protect you? older than mine. You're blind and can't see, JZ: Well, I hope you keep But there is some people and, you know, you get 40 That was an infringement on and I can see, goddamnit, I on playin' as long as you who's treated me so damn people up there and you got JZ: You've been playing with their tune. What happened -can see, and I'll beat the can. Thank you Brownie bad, uh, (laughs) I feel to stand in line to trush people and <;m records_ §,nd _is (laughs) I gqt to remem~~ shit 01;1tta :your ass.__'.'._ And McGhee.

.. 20 23 28 5:00 "The Black Maskers" , 5:00 Francois Couperin 5:00 The centenary of t he a drama by Leonid Andreyev, wrote some of the most death of Wi lliam Blake wa.s "constitutes a terrifying deliciously witty and cel ebrated in England by AIRWAVE5 symbolic study of the disin- satirical character pieces the creation of a ballet tegration of the human for the harpsichord, and based on Blake' s illustra- spirit in the face of dark tonight we present a sel ec- tions for the Book of J ob. and all-powerful forces from tion of these as played by The musi c was by Vaughan Calendaro of Events the unknown." Roger Sess- Kenneth Gilbert. Williams , heard tonight in a. ions wrote music for the recording by Sir Adrian play, and tonight we hear 7:00 "Economic Perspectives" Boult. the Suite from that score. " Clyde Bellecourt On Nati ve- Controlled Survival Schools" 71 00 "The Native Amer i can noveml;r 7:00 "U. S. Industry In Produced by Kathryn Lenden Program.'' • 5 8 14 Trouble: Government Respon- and Glen Martin for Prari e "Viet nam Vet erans". This Tonight we begin a two week 7: 00 "We Remember Ma.reuse". 7:00 "The Beat Poets of San sibility?" A Public Policy AirjNFCB . program examines the agony long festival of the sym- Six of Marcuse' s students in Francisco" (Part: 1). A Forum looking at governments of t he Viet nam experience phonies of Gustav Mahler. the Los Angeles area get retrospective of the poetry roles in big business. 8:00 "Ea.stern and the return home of the Rebellion Ir• • - veterans. Ea.ch "Harmony of the Spheres" together to talk about him. and of the San Fran- 8:00 Shelly Manne Quartet program.from now til Nov.16 They speak about how his cisco beat scene of the late "French Concert" • - - 11:00 Buddy Guy shows why will have as its featured life touched theirs, the 50' s. he is in the forefront among 8:00 McCoy Tyner "Reaching periods of his life, and his work one of Mahler's sym- 11: 00 "This is •• • El Chicano" . guitarists Fourth". phonies. From the exuber- theoretical work. From ICPFK. 8 :00 Eddie Marshall "Dance with "A Man and The Blues". OfTile Sun", · Thlsis • •• a truly soulful ant and audacious triumph The late Oti s Spann is fea- 11: 00 The Ca.rs "Candy-0" , 8:00 "Mode For group, featuring congas, of his First symphony, timbales, marimbas, and the tured on piano. The high- written when he was 28, to Joe". One of 's fav- 11: 00 The States. This light of this album is Guy' s orite sons, Joe Henderson, truly comtemporary group like on a 1976 recording. the sorrowful farewell to magical theft of B.B. King' s 29 life expressed in the last together with on shows an influence of the "Sweet Little Angel". This movement of the re~ertoire trumpet, on sixties direction of rock is truly Buddy' s tune. trombone , Ceda Walton on music. The group is led by 21 5:00 Opera Ni ghtt This only in the last fifteen 25 years. Our age has re- piano and others perform a lead vocalist Jimmy McDon- mont h we begin a new series nell and guitarist Stephen sponded to Mahler's fantas- series of tunes like "Mode 8: 30 Marconi' s Wireless of operas, t he last Thtn'Sday For Joe" , "Free Wheeler" Chandler. 5:00 Tchaikovsky: S~phony tic, sometimes even gro- No. 6 ("Pathetique" ) . Theatre. "Protective of each month. Our f irst tesque imagination, to his and "Granted" . 15 Mimicry''. of fer ing is Carl Maria von Eugene O:rmandy conducts the Weber's "Oberon" in i ts insistence that a symphony Philadelphia Orchestra must embrace "the world" 11:00 "The 7: 00 "The Beat Poets of 26 recent rerelease with most Heartshaker" . Chicao-based " (Part: 2) in the great Russians last and its disparate elements, major completed work. 5: 00 Leon Kirchner i s the of the German dialogue more fervently than his Alligator Records has yet to soloist in his own Piano omitt ed. Rafael Kuelik is release anything other than 8:00 "Dear own did. During our festi- · 7:00 "The Native American Concerto No . 1 with the the conductor, Birgi t val, we will also offer exciting, gutsy rhythm and John C." A tribute to his New York Philharmonic Nilsson and Placido Domingo blues. Taylor' s vocals are long time friend John Col- Program". are among the stars. "Das Lied von der Erde", "Minnesota Issues" • Tonight conducted by Dimitr i Mitro- the work Mahler almost greatly enhanced by the trane by "The Minister of poulos. called his Ninth Symphony, of Sammy Lawhorn Creative Percussion": Elvin Governor Al Quie and Wendell 7:00 "We Shall Overcome" and Johnny B. Moore and the Jones. Here Jones has Anderson discuss "The Out- Featuring the Freedom but decided not to our of a look for Minnesota" . 7: 00 "No Where to Run , No superstitious fear of that keyboards of Pinetop Perkins. on bass, Hank Where to Hide" • This is a Singers from civil r ights number--Beethoven, Schubert, A truly Chicago production. Jones on piano and Charlie look at the impact the movements of the early 6o•s, Mariano on alto sax. 8:00 Marion Brown Quartet Bruckner having died after "Live In Willisau" from CUban Missile Crisis had on as well as Bob Dylan, Pete or during the writing of 9 the American people, with Seeger, Nina Simons, and ninth symphonies. 7:00 "Economic Perspectives" . 11:00 Passport, a truly 1977. special attention to the Len Chandler. "The Ballot or the Bullet" . fine instrumental ensemble, Civil Defense Authority. 7:00 "Black Youth: An En- The contradictions heightened is featured on their 1976 11:00 Dixie Dregs "What If" . 8_100 Red ~odney "Home Free" • dangered Species?" Black for Blacks during the U.S. release "Infinity Machine". The word fusion takes on new 8:00 "Milestones" Youths describe their lives. Civil Rights Movement of Cuts include "Ju-Ju-Man". meaning with this group. One of the jazz idioms real Difficulty in getting-past 1963 and as they heightened, leaders. A man whose groups 11:00 The Hometown Band has 16 Many musical influences, in- their own brand of rock racism in job interviews, a spirit of rebellion arose. cluding jazz, hard rock, and served as training grounds obstacles in getting educa- This program examines the 7: 00 "Economic Perspectives" for some of today' s most music, f eat uring Yi olin, bluegrass are blended into dulcimer, saxes, flut e , tion, drugs, and violence figures involved and the "Minnesota Issues" . Minne- a highly listenable sound. prolific players. Here are among topics discussed. social climate of the times. sota and the 1980 Democratic Davis' group has John Colt- cello, along with the t radi- Music by Curtis Mayfield Nomination is the topic rane (tenor), Cannonball tional rock instruments. and Marvin Gaye . 8: 00 "Nostal- with Congressman Richard Adderley (alto), gia In Times Square". A Nolan and Attorney-General 22 (piano), (bass) 8:00 "Lester recent release by immortal Warren Spannaus. and Philly Joe Jones (drums). Swings" • Record.ings from bassist Charles Mingus of 30 recordings from 1959 with 8:00 F.ddie Jefferson "The lli.QQ Albert King "I'11 Play 1950-.51 with Jo Jones, John 5:00 Stuart Dempster is a Lewis, and others. long- time sideman, Dannie Main Man" • From September The Blues For You" . 1 Lester Young is one of the Richmond on drums, Booker of 1977 with Richie Cole, trombonist who recently re- 51 00 Bach's Cantata No. 22, Ervin (tenor), John Handy leased an exciting album conducted by Gustav Leon- most important of all other , and Harold 27 hardt rounds out this jazz musicians as he served (alto) and Horace Parlan Mabern performing "Moody1 s of his own works, improvis- atory in nature and played months class ical f eatures. as a prime influence for (piano). Mood For Love" , "Freedom 5 :00 Dvorak wrote several and thousands Jazz Dance" and "Summertime". in the great Abbey of aJ.ement VI. "Standing sadly neglected symphonic 7100 "Economic Perspectives" of other young players. 11: 00 Tom Johnston "Every- One of the most important poems , some of which are thing You ' ve Heard is True" innovators in the field of Waves" is featured tonight. "The Dollar Abroad: Infla - You' ll hear a single note based on fairy tales. "The tion at Home". Another lliQQ "The Cry mixes pure f'unk and rock. jazz vocalists. Golden Spinning Wheel" is Of Love" is a 1971 release on the trombone resonate Public Pol icy Forum from 11 for so many seconds that the one of these, the tale it- the BNA Tape Exchange ex- featuring the songs "Drift- 11: 00 "My Labors" features soloist can build up chords self being a rather grisly ing" , "Ezy Ryder" , "Straight 8: 30 "Ola.in of Command" thestrong, bluesy vocals of amining t he dollar and how by himself, affair, but the music i s it fares in the troubled Ahead" , "Angel" , and others. Marconi' s Wireless Theatre. Nick Gravenites accompanied stirring. Istvan Kertesz economic times. Hendrix fans, come out of the by a group led by Michael conducts the Sym- closet: Bloomfield on guitar. This 7:00 "The Radio Active De - bate". In 1958 Linus phony Orchestra. 8:00 J ohn Coltrane "Inter- 12 album is right in line with 6 the Butterfield-Bloomfield Pauling risked personal stellar Space". The l atest persecution to stand firmly 7:00 "American CUrrents of rel ease by "The Master " • 7:00 "Africa: U.S. Policy at tradition which Gravenites Jewish Thought". Some of played a major role in against radiation and nu- John Coltrane died just a Crossroads" . A Public 7:00 "Cuba with Salt and clear weapons . He later the beliefs, responsi bili- 3 months aft er t hese 1967 Sympathy" . Sam Kushner, shaping. Policy Forum examining the received the Nobel Peace t i es and values of being recordings were made in duo controversial role the U.S . ICPFK 's labor reporter, who 18 Prize for his efforts, here Jewish in America are format wfth Rashi ed Ali on is playing in the govern- visited CUba this spring, we witness some of those explored from t he perspec- drums . ment of South Africa. talks about its labor move- 8: 30 Marconi' s Wireless scenes. tives of an orthodox, re- ment and freedom of speech, Theatre. "Knock". form, and secular Jew. lli.QQ. Commander Cody and 8:00 Reo Garland "Feelin' bureaucracy, sports and His Lost Pl anet Airmen entertainment, the economy, 8:00 "Peruvian Red" . A brand new release Blue". One of the brilliant fu.QQ. Mary Lou Williams "Tales From The Ozone" • from a man who has spanned and class differences. "Solo Recital". 191 pianists who continually many years with a career seems to get lost in the 11:00 The album "Gonna Take that includes playing with 8: 00 "The Ann a Miracle" features Laura Seeing Eye", / 5:00 Bach's "Partita No. 4 shuffle among keyboard Cllarlie Parker, John Coltrane, players with bigger names , Nyro Miles Davis and more. This in D Major" opens with a • grand Overture in the French Barron again and again re<;:ording features Sam Jones 11: 00 Ten Years After "" demonstrates his creativity, on bass and , drums. style and is one of Bach ' s and his gang on an major keyboard works. We technical excellence, and ·IIIC · • innovative and exciting 1969 compositional ability on tfle 11:00 The Elvin Bishop Group release. ignore the current trend of Bach on the harpsichord this one of his finest "Feel It" features the vo- recordings. cals of Jo Baker with and present Glenn Gould's artery recording on the piano. special guest appearances by 13 lli.QQ The Butterfield Blues LOVES The Pointer Sisters and San- Band "Keep on Moving" • tana drummer, Mike Carabello. 7: 00 "Bound For Glory: Woody 7:00 "Constitutional Conven- Guthrie 1912-1967''. Woody' s wdtn-fm 7 tion: How well would it story and songs, as told and Kenwood Shopping Center 7:00 "Still on Trial: A Con- Work?" sung by those who knew and versation With Alger Hiss". loved him best: Bob Dylan, 724-4994 8:00 Hal Galper "Now Hear , Pete Seeger, 8aOO Cannonball .Adderley This" . The University of Minnesota "What I Mean". and Ramblin' Jack Elliot. the t\brthland's ~~~\:\.At?~ is committed to the policy SEU.Eiit1 IMl'ORTEP 611='11 11:00 Laura Allen' s song- nu;ic & SOLnd giant that all persons shall have ll!QQ. Tom Verlaine, singer- 8:00 "Nenk' s AMP (L.OTtUH~ guitarist from the group, writing ability is enhanced Time" . equal access to its pro- Television, is let loose with by her own tasteful singing grams , facilities, and em- AT nA~I "9«S with a lowkey musical ac- lli.QQ. features a itiOW•V~O ployment without regard to his own creative approach to collection of rock ' n roll • SAY~ nw-l<~mWPTH • rock ' n roll. companiment. race, creed, color, sex, originals from drummer Jerry 21a-m -11n national origin, or handicap. • ., Amoroso. 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