H3224 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 10, 2019 ‘‘Aspects of this plan present height- Sunayana’s husband, Srinivas, was field school system in 2010, officially ened risks of fraud, waste, and mis- murdered in a hate crime in Olathe, becoming principal in 2017. Students management that warrant particularly Kansas. My predecessor helped her ob- and teachers said he always had a close oversight.’’ tain a temporary visa, but she still smile on his face, and his energy was So now it is time for Congress to act faces a potentially decades-long wait infectious. to protect national service, not fund a to gain citizenship. This is because, It was this kindness of spirit that led plan that promotes fraud, waste, and with him gone, her status was at risk. Mr. Nelson to donate his bone marrow abuse. I urge my colleagues to cospon- These green card backlogs need to be to a 14-year-old boy in France. He did sor H.R. 1458, the Keep Community resolved. Sunayana is not alone. Many not know the boy, he just wanted to Service Local Act, which prohibits the people have applied for permanent resi- give something of himself to save a closing of State offices. dency and are stuck in long backlogs child’s life. f for green cards. He suffered a complication from the H.R. 1044 creates a fair and equitable procedure. He never woke up. ETO TESTING IN LAKE COUNTY first-come, first-served system, helping Mr. Speaker, with the passing of Der- (Mr. SCHNEIDER asked and was to even out green card lines and help- rick Nelson, we have lost a leader in given permission to address the House ing to prevent excessive backlogs for our community and a great and good for 1 minute and to revise and extend folks like Sunayana. It allows U.S. man. I extend my deepest condolences his remarks.) companies to focus on what they do to his family, and I hope they find com- Mr. SCHNEIDER. Mr. Speaker, last best: hiring people with the right skills fort in knowing that the extraordinary month, I spoke on the floor about the to create products, services, and jobs. legacy he leaves behind will continue urgent need for EPA ambient air test- This is a piece of a larger, more com- to inspire and guide the people who had ing at two manufacturing facilities in prehensive reform needed to fix our the privilege to know him. Lake County that use ethylene oxide, a broken immigration system. f known carcinogen. f As well, I and my colleagues in the SAVE THE INTERNET ACT OF 2019 Illinois delegation have written to the ADVOCATING FOR MEDICAID BILL The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. EPA urging them to undertake ambi- (Mr. RUIZ asked and was given per- STANTON). Pursuant to House Resolu- ent air monitoring. mission to address the House for 1 tion 294 and rule XVIII, the Chair de- The neighbors living near these minute and to revise and extend his re- clares the House in the Committee of plants, as well as the local govern- marks.) the Whole House on the state of the ments, need to know that the air they Mr. RUIZ. Mr. Speaker, I rise today Union for the further consideration of breathe is safe. Yet the EPA still re- in support of my bill to help working the bill, H.R. 1644. fuses to conduct any ambient air moni- Americans access quality, affordable Will the gentleman from California toring, instead insisting on using dis- healthcare. (Mr. CISNEROS) kindly take the chair. persion models based on estimates of Last month, I introduced the bipar- b 0915 smokestack emissions. tisan Medicaid Services Investment IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Such dispersion monitoring is com- and Accountability Act, which has al- Accordingly, the House resolved pletely inadequate because it fails to ready unanimously passed the House itself into the Committee of the Whole account for what are known as fugitive and Senate. With the President’s signa- House on the state of the Union for the emissions, EtO escaping into the envi- ture, this bill will help parents coordi- further consideration of the bill (H.R. ronment from locations other than the nate care for a sick child and protect 1644) to restore the open internet order smokestack. seniors from going bankrupt to pay for of the Federal Communications Com- Absent EPA leadership, the local mu- their loved one’s in-home care. nicipalities and the Lake County Pub- My bill will also address sky- mission, with Mr. CISNEROS (Acting lic Health Department have stepped up rocketing prescription drug costs by Chair) in the chair. The Clerk read the title of the bill. to pursue monitoring on their own. preventing pharmaceutical companies The Acting CHAIR. When the Com- Good for them, but it should not have from cheating State Medicaid pro- mittee of the Whole rose on Tuesday, come to this. They are only doing so grams. April 9, 2019, a request for a recorded because the EPA has failed to do its As an emergency physician, I know vote on amendment No. 6 printed in job. that timely access to care is critical to House Report 116–37 offered by the gen- Our communities deserve far better helping every family live a full, tlewoman from Virginia (Ms. WEXTON) from the EPA. This is about our fami- healthy, and productive life. We must had been postponed. lies and the public health. I urge the put patients first. EPA to do its duty and to begin this Mr. Speaker, I urge the President to AMENDMENT NO. 7 OFFERED BY MS. DAVIDS OF KANSAS vital testing immediately. sign this important bill into law imme- The Acting CHAIR. It is now in order diately. f to consider amendment No. 7 printed in FAIRNESS FOR HIGH-SKILLED f part A of House Report 116–37. IMMIGRANTS ACT IN HONOR OF DERRICK NELSON Ms. DAVIDS of Kansas. Mr. Chair, I (Ms. DAVIDS of Kansas asked and (Mr. MALINOWSKI asked and was rise today to offer an amendment. was given permission to address the given permission to address the House The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will House for 1 minute and to revise and for 1 minute and to revise and extend designate the amendment. The text of the amendment is as fol- extend her remarks.) his remarks.) lows: Ms. DAVIDS of Kansas. Mr. Speaker, Mr. MALINOWSKI. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to voice my support for today I rise to honor a hero in my dis- Add at the end the following: H.R. 1044, the Fairness for High-Skilled trict who passed away this week. SEC. 4. GAO REPORT ON BROADBAND INTERNET ACCESS SERVICE COMPETITION. Immigrants Act, introduced by Con- Mr. Derrick Nelson was the principal Not later than 1 year after the date of the gresswoman LOFGREN. This bipartisan of the high school in Westfield, New enactment of this Act, the Comptroller Gen- legislation will help ease green card Jersey. He was known to students, to eral shall submit to the Committee on En- backlogs for those facing the longest parents, and to teachers for his gen- ergy and Commerce of the House of Rep- wait times and help our businesses re- erosity and selflessness. resentatives and the Committee on Com- tain the high-skilled staff they need to Mr. Nelson dedicated his life to serv- merce, Science, and Transportation of the be competitive. ing his country and community. He Senate a report that— Last month, I sat down with spent 20 years in the U.S. Army Re- (1) examines the efforts by the Federal Communications Commission to assess com- Sunayana Dumala, who shared her serves, including a deployment in the petition for providers of broadband Internet story with me. Middle East. access service (as defined in section 8.2 of It was only 2 years ago that our com- He began his career in New Jersey title 47, Code of Federal Regulations) in the munity was devastated when education in 2002 and joined the West- market;

VerDate Sep 11 2014 01:43 Apr 11, 2019 Jkt 089060 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10AP7.003 H10APPT1 April 10, 2019 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H3225 (2) describes how the Commission can bet- of politicians talking about this, Mr. for this outstanding complementary ter assess competition; and Chairman. These are certified smart amendment to a very important issue. (3) includes a description of the steps, if people, otherwise known as the real en- I am, I believe, very much sup- any, the Commission can take to better in- gineers, that we went to. portive, and I am supportive of the idea crease competition among providers of broadband Internet access service (as defined To quote their analysis, ‘‘5G net- of the GAO producing a report exam- in section 8.2 of title 47, Code of Federal Reg- works face the challenge of being de- ining the FCC’s efforts to assess com- ulations) in the market. veloped in a context of high uncer- petition. That is an important record The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to tainty, where most of the services that that we in the Congress need, and it House Resolution 294, the gentlewoman underpin 5G business models appear to complements the Save the Internet Act from Kansas (Ms. DAVIDS) and a Mem- be unlawful under current rules.’’ which represents true net neutrality ber opposed each will control 5 min- One example of the efficiencies that protections that are designed for today utes. can be realized in a 5G network is net- and tomorrow without loopholes. The Chair recognizes the gentle- work slicing which will allow operators The Save the Internet Act includes woman from Kansas. to provide different services with dif- enhanced transparency protections and Ms. DAVIDS of Kansas. Mr. Chair- ferent performance characteristics to enacts specific rules against blocking, man, I rise today to offer an amend- address specific use cases. Because 5G throttling, and paid prioritization. ment to the Save the Internet Act that is being designed for a wider range of Additionally, the Save the Internet helps the American consumer. use cases than prior technologies, it is Act empowers the FCC to stop internet This amendment requires the Gov- critical that quality of service manage- service providers from undermining the ernment Accountability Office to ment be employed. net neutrality principles through new produce a report examining the FCC’s Applying net neutrality to these new and harmful mechanisms, but we want efforts to assess competition in the 5G networks would cripple the perform- to work with those providers. wireline and wireless broadband inter- ance of this incredible new technology. My colleague just mentioned 5G. net access markets, and to tell us how Mr. GUTHRIE, a Republican from Ken- Nothing that we do here is going to in- the FCC can better assess competition tucky, offered an amendment to ad- hibit, I believe, the opportunity for us in the future. dress our serious concerns about the to work together. Driving competition in the tele- impact of the Democrats’ bill on 5G, Ms. DAVIDS’ amendment is a vital communications industry is good for but that amendment to preserve the and important contribution to the idea innovation, consumer pricing, and growth of 5G was not given an oppor- of competition, and the idea of serving availability of service. It only makes tunity to be part of today’s vote. your area, and making sure that we un- sense then that we should receive an Sadly, we can’t even debate it. It is not derstand how the competition is in- accurate assessment of the FCC’s cur- here. creased in wireline and wireless rent efforts to promote that competi- New 5G wireless networks will not broadband internet access to many tion and to ask the GAO how they only one day support apps and web markets. might do it better. pages, and texts, and chats, and video I thank the gentlewoman for yield- I urge support for this amendment, streams, but will also support a wide ing. I support her amendment, and I and I reserve the balance of my time. range of new technologies, from auton- support the underlying bill, which is Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chairman, I claim omous vehicles, augmented reality, in- the Save the Internet Act, and I thank the time in opposition to the amend- novations in healthcare delivery and Mr. DOYLE for his leadership over the ment, although I am not opposed to the education, to all other kinds of new ad- years in this legislation. amendment itself. vances, Mr. Chairman. Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chairman, I don’t The Acting CHAIR. Without objec- These new innovations, let alone the have any other speakers, I don’t be- tion, the gentleman from Oregon is rec- innovations beyond 5G to come, would lieve. I will continue to reserve the bal- ognized for 5 minutes. be simply impossible, we now believe, ance of my time. There was no objection. and I think others believe independent Ms. DAVIDS of Kansas. Mr. Chair- Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chair, I support of us, with these heavy-handed pro- man, I yield such time as he may con- the goal of this amendment in assess- posals that will result from title II sume to the gentleman from Pennsyl- ing the broadband marketplace and power being given to bureaucrats in vania (Mr. MICHAEL F. DOYLE). how the government can increase com- Washington. That is what the under- Mr. MICHAEL F. DOYLE of Pennsyl- petition, lower prices, and improve the lying bill would do. vania. Mr. Chair, I thank the gentle- quality of service. This is a worthy It is worth remembering that until woman for yielding. subject for GAO to look into, and I 2015, the Federal Communications It is interesting to hear my good think we can gain valuable insights. Commission treated wireless networks friend talk about 5G. When the major- This is something we could have ap- differently when regulating net neu- ity talks about government control of proved in the Energy and Commerce trality, because it did not want to im- the internet, they should turn their Committee had it been brought to us, pede the growth of a nascent tech- eyes to the White House and the Presi- but we accept it here on the floor. nology. If we were to apply that same dent’s plan to nationalize 5G. But if we were really looking for logic today, we should not burden de- The only socialist plan to take over ways to increase competition, Mr. veloping 5G networks with onerous and the internet is the one coming from the Chairman, in the wireless broadband outdated regulations, as these 5G net- Trump administration and their plan marketplace, then I am baffled why works are even more in their infancy to nationalize 5G. I have documents for Democrats did not find the need to ex- than wireless was back in 2010, Mr. the RECORD talking about numerous ar- amine how 5G networks will be se- Chairman. ticles where the Trump administration verely threatened by their bill. So we need to make sure that we proposes to nationalize 5G, and the Numerous reports from entities not don’t handicap this next generation of plan coming from the administration even in the tech space indicate that technology with rules designed for ro- to secure 5G. title II, this overreaching government tary telephones that could cause us to The gentleman keeps saying that takeover and the incredible power delay or lose a global race to widely de- this bill is a government takeover of being given to the FCC to take charge ploy 5G. the internet, but the only government of the internet, presents serious chal- Mr. Chairman, those are my remarks. takeover I see is the one that the lenges to 5G deployment and its amaz- I support the underlying amendment, White House keeps proposing. ing potential for technical improve- the Davids amendment, and I reserve Now, the amendment that is before ments. the balance of my time. us would ask the GAO to examine how These reports come from Barclays, Ms. DAVIDS of Kansas. Mr. Chair- the FCC assesses competition, includ- which focuses on investment and bank- man, I yield 11⁄2 minutes to the gentle- ing making recommendations on how ing, Oracle, and even the IEEE, which woman from Texas (Ms. JACKSON LEE). to improve their assessment and how is the Institute of Electrical and Elec- Ms. JACKSON LEE. Mr. Chair, I to increase competition in these vital tronics Engineers, so it is not a bunch thank the gentlewoman from Kansas markets. This is a key question for so

VerDate Sep 11 2014 01:43 Apr 11, 2019 Jkt 089060 PO 00000 Frm 00003 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A10AP7.002 H10APPT1 H3226 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 10, 2019 many consumer protections online, not look at the entire value chain including the ever doesn’t have to worry about this dy- just net neutrality. edge, but divided regulatory jurisdictions namic. It can make its technology decisions This bill is about consumers, small and a split Congress make this difficult to independent of the investment needs of the business, and democratic values like achieve. Therefore, for now, we believe the network. In theory, Netflix can decide to issue will be resolved by courts and is likely stream all its videos in 4K and suck up even competition. This is a good amend- be a headline risk for telecom and cable com- more bandwidth, which will be to the det- ment. I support this amendment, and I panies. riment of other applications on the Internet urge all of my colleagues to support it While Net Neutrality evokes strong pas- and force cable and wireless companies to in- as well. sions politically, very little of the discussion crease their network investment. At the Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chair, how much has evolved despite significant technological same time, cable companies will have to deal time do I have remaining? and economic shifts. We believe that Net with broadband price monitoring by the FCC The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman Neutrality formulations as they exist today (which the 2015 Open Internet Order enables), are blunt tools to deal with a fast-changing 1 limiting their ability to pass through price from Oregon has 1 ⁄2 minutes remain- technological landscape. to the consumer or to Netflix (due to a ban ing. For instance, the entire premise of 5G is on paid prioritization). Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chair, I yield my- the ability to enable different network capa- Overall, while the need for some frame- self the balance of my time. bilities for different applications. The 5G work on Net Neutrality is unquestionable, Mr. Chair, I would recommend that standard development body has outlined the move by the House to just pass the buck my friend from Pennsylvania read this three major use cases for the technology. en- back to the FCC to deal with the details is Barclays piece on what the bill likely hanced Mobile Broadband (eMBB), Massive not the right answer in our opinion. This IoT (mIoT) and ultra-reliable low latency could do to diminish the growth in 5G needs a legislative solution on the scale of (URLLC). While all three are likely to be the 1996 Telecommunications Act but this is build-out, which I include in the CON- used for consumer facing applications, two of almost impossible in the current environ- GRESSIONAL RECORD. the three major use cases are also being tar- ment. As a result, we believe this issue is [From Barclays, U.S. Cable, Telecom & geted at industrial users (mIoT and URLLC). likely to remain unresolved for a long time Internet, March 25, 2019] Data use across these applications is likely to come. Near-term, however, if this legisla- to be quite varied. For instance, smart me- tion were to pass, it could have a bigger im- NET NEUTRALITY: BLUNT TOOL FOR A FAST- ters will need to transmit small amounts of pact on wireless 5G plans than on wireline CHANGING ECOSYSTEM data at constant periods while consumer operators. More heat than light in present Net Neu- broadband works on bursts of high band- Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chair, I would trality debate: While Net Neutrality and re- width consuming traffic such as video. Appli- lated issues have evoked strong passions also point out, actually, that the bill cations such as autonomous cars and remote would regulate 5G. We had a vote in since the early 2000s, very little of the dis- surgery may value lower latency and higher cussion has evolved despite significant tech- edge computing capacity compared to, for committee to prevent that from hap- nological and economic shifts. The issue has example, checking email or watching video. pening, and every Democrat on the come back into focus with House Democrats This is quite different from previous gen- committee voted to regulate 5G introducing a new bill to reinstate the 2015 erations of wireless standards which thus far through this legislation and give the Internet Order which was repealed by the have been largely focused on consumer appli- FCC that authority, and every Repub- FCC post the election of President Trump. cations. The way Congress appears to be lican voted the other way, because we The issue is also making its way through the looking at Net Neutrality today or the way actually vote for open and free internet courts with 20+ states and tech companies the FCC has looked at this in the past would predictably suing against the FCC’s repeal. effectively result in operators being forced and markets. Therefore, this issue is likely to remain in to provide the same level of service to every I know that the gentleman, my the headlines especially given elections next application which will not only result in friend, was pretty busy when the Presi- year. waste but also limit the impact of 5G. In dent’s people made their statement. I Reinstating 2015 Open Internet Order may fact, if the promise of 5G is realized the way commented that day that I didn’t make it tough to realize full potential of 5G: it has been outlined by operators globally, think that was a good approach. So I We believe that Net Neutrality formulations the whole meaning of what a telecom ‘serv- have been on record, and I think most as proposed in Congress are blunt tools to ice’ means (is it latency? is it speed? it is of my colleagues have as well. That is deal with a fast-changing technological land- edge compute?) and how it is measured is kind of an argument that, Mr. Chair- scape. The entire premise of 5G is the ability likely to change meaningfully. to enable different network capabilities for Some conditions included in the 2015 Order man, I don’t think holds much water. different applications. The 5G standards de- such as paid prioritization and throttling What we do know is, we are legis- velopment body, 3GPP, has outlined three could in theory make it impossible to deploy lating today, and the Democrats’ legis- major use cases for the technology: enhanced and monetize some of the features that make lation will regulate 5G, and the people Mobile Broadband, Massive IoT, and ultra-re- 5G a bigger shift than prior generations. In a who evaluate the effect of that say liable low latency. While all three are likely 5G world, this would make it impossible in that is going to harm development, to be used for consumer-facing applications, theory to prioritize latency for, as an exam- rollout, and probably investment as two of the three major use cases are also ple, a driverless car versus somebody watch- well. being targeted at industrial users. Dimen- ing Netflix. Of course regulators can fine- Mr. Chair, the underlying amend- sions of data use will also be more varied tune these definitions but that is not what than just speed or volume. Some applica- the House bill seeks to do. It effectively ment is good, and I yield back the bal- tions will need to transmit small amounts of passes this judgment to an administrative ance of my time. data at constant periods (e.g. smart meters) body—the FCC. Given that FCC decisions on Ms. DAVIDS of Kansas. Mr. Chair, I while others will need bursts of high band- this issue have been split along political af- yield back the balance of my time. width consuming traffic (e.g. fixed wireless). filiations of the Commissioners, every re- The Acting CHAIR. The question is Therefore, if implemented, the 2015 Open gime at the FCC could make opposing deci- on the amendment offered by the gen- Internet Order framework (ban on paid sions making the implementation of any pol- tlewoman from Kansas (Ms. DAVIDS). prioritization and throttling) without ac- icy next to impossible. This opens up the en- The amendment was agreed to. counting for emerging technological capa- tire issue to a lot of uncertainty which is AMENDMENT NO. 8 OFFERED BY MR. STANTON bilities and applications is likely to become likely to limit the ability of service pro- The Acting CHAIR. It is now in order a roadblock to 5G monetization. viders to formulate go-to-market plans for Title II could have a bigger operational im- 5G. to consider amendment No. 8 printed in pact than Net Neutrality: While the Open We also believe that the Net Neutrality part A of House Report 116–37. Internet Order has implications for future framework as of today (no prioritization, no Mr. STANTON. Mr. Chairman, I have business models, if adopted as law, a more blocking and no throttling) is without any an amendment at the desk. immediate concern for Internet service pro- nuance to deal with what might be legiti- The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will viders will be the push to redefine broadband mate and consumer-friendly use cases. For designate the amendment. as a Title II service. Operationally, this instance, Netflix alone consumes ∼ 19% of The text of the amendment is as fol- could constrain the degrees of freedom downstream bandwidth (wireless and wired) lows: in the US today. In the early days of cable, around variables such as pricing a lot more Add at the end the following: than the Open Internet Order itself. when bandwidth in the cable pipe was lim- SEC. 4. ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH IN INDIAN Overall, while the need for some frame- ited due to analog signals, content networks COUNTRY REGARDING THE IMPOR- work on Net Neutrality is agreed to by both had to pay cable companies for carriage. TANCE OF ADDRESSING THE sides of the political divide, the current set This allowed a market-based mechanism for UNIQUE BROADBAND INTERNET AC- of proposals are, in our view, inadequate viable networks to effectively ‘buy’ band- CESS SERVICE CHALLENGES. with material limitations on future business width and scale their services based on how (a) ENGAGEMENT WITH TRIBAL COMMUNITIES models. The issue requires a comprehensive widely they were distributed. Netflix how- TO ADDRESS BROADBAND INTERNET ACCESS

VerDate Sep 11 2014 01:43 Apr 11, 2019 Jkt 089060 PO 00000 Frm 00004 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10AP7.007 H10APPT1 April 10, 2019 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H3227 SERVICE NEEDS.—Not later than 3 months tures the availability of broadband is funding to expand their service foot- after the date of the enactment of this Act, critical because the Federal Govern- print. the Federal Communications Commission ment relies on the data to make impor- I was a small business owner with my shall engage with and obtain feedback from tant investments. Tribal stakeholders and providers of wife for more than 20 years. I will tell broadband Internet access service (as defined Without accurate data, the Federal you, you are trying to grow your small in section 8.2 of title 47, Code of Federal Reg- Government will have difficulties iden- business, and then the government ulations) on the effectiveness of the Commis- tifying the true needs and cannot make comes in and says: Oh, we want more sion’s obligation to consult with Indian appropriate investments. Part of the information. We want more require- Tribes to determine whether the Commission challenge in the lack of reliable data ments. And we are going to regulate needs to clarify the Commission’s Tribal en- stems from the lack of meaningful con- you more. gagement statement and ensure accessible sultation and engagement with Tribal Mr. Chairman, all that does is take and affordable broadband Internet access Nations. service (as defined in section 8.2 of title 47, your money and your plan to invest Code of Federal Regulations) in the Tribal Tribal consultation is more than just and diverts it. You don’t get to do as lands and areas through the engagement and checking a box. It is important for the much as you had planned to do. That is outreach. FCC to not only listen to Tribes, but to why I supported an amendment to the (b) FINDINGS.—The Congress finds the fol- actively engage and learn from them. underlying bill that would have specifi- lowing: Only by doing so will we be better able cally protected a small business from (1) According to an estimate from the U.S. to get information on where the needs the heavy hand of overreporting. Census Bureau, just 53% of Native Americans are. That will lead to better decisions That amendment would have in- living on Tribal lands have access to high- and better outcomes. speed internet service. cluded the language of my bill on small (2) The Government Accountability Office My amendment would implement one businesses that was passed unani- has found that the Federal Communications of the GAO’s recommendations. It mously by the House in each of the last Commission data has overstated broadband would direct the FCC to seek feedback two Congresses—unanimously, right availability and access on Tribal lands in the from Tribal stakeholders and providers here on this floor. It would have ex- United States. on the effectiveness of its Tribal con- tended the exemption for small ISPs (3) A Federal court recently vacated a Fed- sultation, as well as ensure accessible eral Communications Commission order that from President Obama’s FCC’s en- and affordable broadband on Tribal hanced transparency rules for 5 years limited Federal subsidies for wireless pro- lands. viders serving Tribal lands. and expanded the exemption to include (4) The United States Government, indus- Mr. Chair, I urge my colleagues to businesses with 250,000 subscribers or try, and non-governmental organizations support this amendment, and I reserve less. should do more to identify and address the the balance of my time. This was based on a bipartisan com- unique broadband access challenges faced by b 0930 promise that the FCC’s original exemp- individuals living on reservations and Tribal tion was not enough to protect small lands. Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chair, I claim the ISPs. We all agreed to that. We nego- The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to time in opposition to the amendment, although I am not opposed to the tiated that and twice passed that House Resolution 294, the gentleman unanimously in the House. from Arizona (Mr. STANTON) and a amendment. I agree that all consumers should be Member opposed each will control 5 The Acting CHAIR. Without objec- protected, but the enhanced trans- minutes. tion, the gentleman from Oregon is rec- parency rules could deter broadband The Chair recognizes the gentleman ognized for 5 minutes. from being deployed further on Tribal from Arizona. There was no objection. Mr. STANTON. Mr. Chairman, access Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chairman, I share lands and reaching consumers in the to high-speed internet is absolutely es- similar concerns to Mr. STANTON about first place. That is because these en- sential in today’s economy. It is the promoting broadband deployment on hanced disclosures place an unneces- key component to our Nation’s innova- Tribal lands. I have visited a number of sary regulatory burden on small busi- tion infrastructure. reservations around the country, in- nesses and distract them from working Yet, on Tribal lands across this coun- cluding in Arizona, as well as, of to bring broadband internet access to try, a digital divide exists. According course, in my own State of Oregon and customers across the country, espe- to the estimate from the U.S. Census elsewhere. cially on Tribal lands. Bureau, only 53 percent of Native This is a big issue, and the data are As a reminder, my amendment would Americans living on Tribal lands have not complete. I agree with you that we not have let ISPs skirt transparency. access to high-speed internet, com- need to do better. In fact, that is true, It did not do that. We are just talking pared to 82 percent of households na- and I think we would all agree that the about really costly reporting require- tionally. data the FCC gets, has, and uses has ments. Instead, they would follow the A recent report by the Government been a problem for a very long time. less onerous transparency rules adopt- Accountability Office examined how We have to get better so that when we ed by the FCC back in 2010 so con- the Federal Communications Commis- allocate these funds to do the build-out sumers would still have access to infor- sion collects, validates, and uses data and everything else, we are getting mation needed to make informed deci- on broadband availability. It found funds to the people who really need sions about their internet service, and that the FCC overstates the avail- them. That is especially a problem ISPs could focus on providing service ability of broadband internet service with our Native American friends. rather than cumbersome regulatory re- on Tribal lands. In fact, while I was presiding over the quirements. For example, if a service provider re- Energy and Commerce Committee last There is bipartisan consensus in im- ports that it could provide broadband Congress, we accomplished landmark proving broadband deployment to Trib- service internet access to at least one legislation with the enactment of RAY al lands and, I think, our rural areas location in a census block, the FCC BAUM’S Act. That reauthorized the and our urban areas that are under- considers broadband to be ‘‘available’’ FCC, and it included language to im- served. But it seems my colleagues in that census block. That doesn’t prove services on Tribal lands, Mr. across the aisle don’t support this as make much sense, and the GAO agreed. Chairman. much as we claim and they claim. Oth- It found that the FCC’s available sta- We need to make sure that the poli- erwise, I would have expected the tus is applied too broadly, sometimes cies we impose on the internet support amendment I had, which reflected ex- including communities without infra- broadband deployment, especially de- actly what we twice agreed to, to be structure that connects homes to a ployment in Tribal, rural, and very part of the underlying bill. It is not, service provider’s network. rural areas. Oftentimes, the Tribal and that is unfortunate. But Mr. STAN- It also found that the FCC does not areas consist of rural areas where we TON’s work is valuable, and I support collect information on factors such as have very small internet service pro- it. affordability, quality, and denials of viders providing access to the internet, Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance service. FCC data that accurately cap- and they are desperately trying to find of my time.

VerDate Sep 11 2014 01:43 Apr 11, 2019 Jkt 089060 PO 00000 Frm 00005 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A10AP7.003 H10APPT1 H3228 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 10, 2019 Mr. STANTON. Mr. Chairman, I ap- Democrats who control the Rules Com- healthcare. Imagine for a moment if we preciate the comments from Congress- mittee by a 2-to-1 margin refused to had instead spent one-fifth of our time man WALDEN. even allow us to debate that amend- actually working to lower premiums, I would say, in this particular case ment here on the floor. expand choice, or improve quality. with this particular amendment, this is Finally, the President never said he Imagine all that we could have not the government asking for infor- was going to nationalize 5G. Somebody achieved. mation from entities that don’t want leaked a memo out of the White House Right now, we have a humanitarian to provide it. Just the opposite, the that said that is a good idea. I oppose crisis along our southern border. What Tribal communities in my State and that. Right that same day, within if we spent one-fifth of our time work- across the United States of America hours, they had been clear on that. ing to improve border security and fix want to provide this information and Let’s be clear here. The facts of the the loopholes in our immigration sys- want this very detailed consultation matter are that this legislation nation- tem? with the FCC so that we can provide alizes and regulates 5G like it has No, Mr. Chairman. Democrats would better investments on Tribal lands. never been done before and threatens rather consider another nonbinding This is a situation where government innovation and development of this ex- resolution. involvement is very much welcomed by citing new opportunity for American I have never known anybody who has the entities that we are asking the FCC consumers. run for office who was asked to make to better consult with. This is welcome Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the sure you go to Congress to waste time on votes that do not matter. They send government intervention. gentleman from the great State of us here to deliver solutions, not resolu- Mr. Chairman, I yield the balance of California (Mr. MCCARTHY), who is the tions. my time to the gentleman from Penn- Republican leader. Mr. Chairman, the American people sylvania (Mr. MICHAEL F. DOYLE). Mr. MCCARTHY. Mr. Chairman, I deserve better. Mr. MICHAEL F. DOYLE of Pennsyl- thank the gentleman for yielding. Perhaps the Democratic majority is vania. Mr. Chairman, I thank the gen- Mr. Chairman, I rise to ask a simple so focused on resolutions because they tleman for yielding. yet important question, a question don’t want the American people to un- I would say to my good friend, Mr. more and more Americans are begin- derstand the consequences of their rad- WALDEN, and he is my good friend, that ning to ask: What have the Democrats ical, extremist policies. if you think the President’s plan to na- done with their majority? The Wall Street Journal wrote: tionalize 5G is a bad idea—and I kind of This Friday marks the 100th day of ‘‘Democrats are embracing policies recall the gentleman saying that. As the new Democratic majority, 100 days that include government control of recently as yesterday, the administra- of Democratic disappointment. ever-larger chunks of the private tion in its campaign is still talking Today, we were supposed to debate American economy.’’ about nationalizing 5G. Perhaps it is the Democrats’ shell budget, but Or, as I like to say, if you like the time to get on the phone or to stand up Speaker PELOSI pulled it. So here we welfare state, you will love the Demo- here on the House floor publicly and are, debating another bill that is dead cratic agenda. talk about some action that we can on arrival in the Senate. Take the Green New Deal. Under the take as a Congress to make sure that The numbers speak for themselves. guise of fighting climate change, it will the White House doesn’t nationalize At this point in the last Congress, Re- lead to government control over nearly 5G. publicans had passed 141 bills out of every element of our lives. What it With the amendment before us, committee and 132 out of the House. wouldn’t do is make housing more bridging the digital divide is one of the We all believe in accountability, so available or even energy more afford- great challenges the FCC faces today. what do the numbers say now? By con- able for hardworking families. The Save the Internet Act is going to trast, Democrats have passed 68 bills How about Medicare for All? How do give the FCC new tools to address that out of committee and 97 out of the you like a one-size-fits-all healthcare digital divide. House, considerably fewer bills out of system where government bureaucrats, Although broadband technologies this House than before. not consumers, decide what benefits keep getting better, they are not But think about this: Democrats you are going to receive? reaching everyone, especially those in have passed more bills out of the House Mr. Chairman, do you know that remote areas, like Native Americans than they have out of the committee. more than 100 Democrats in the major- living on Tribal lands. These popu- So much for doing the job of the peo- ity have cosponsored this bill? So not lations face unique challenges in get- ple’s House. No. It is whatever leader- only do they support it, they crave it ting high-speed internet access service. ship decides. to come to the floor. That is why it is critical that the FCC Mr. Chairman, we have been lectured What would it do? It would end pri- focus on identifying and addressing ob- countless times by Speaker PELOSI vate insurance. That means 158 million stacles to getting high-speed internet over the years, and you all know the Americans would lose their insurance. onto reservations and Tribal lands. comments: Show us your budget, show And everybody on Medicare Advan- This amendment would instruct the us your values. tage? Gone. FCC to work more closely with Native It hasn’t been said once, it has been That is what they worked on these Americans to help connect Tribal said hundreds of times: Show us your first 100 days. lands. This amendment is particularly budget, show us your values. Your doctor? Gone. Your hospital? Gone. important because of the Trump FCC’s The Speaker and I have disagree- Your healthcare plan? Gone. illegal attempt to reduce support for ments, but I agree that passing a budg- On issue after issue, Democrats seem the Lifeline program to Tribal commu- et is the fundamental responsibility of to have but one solution: more spend- nities. This decision was ultimately the majority. That is not what we are ing, more bureaucracy, and more gov- found to be illegal by the courts. How- doing today. Unfortunately, it looks ernment control. ever, it is critical that the Commission like we will never know the true values Mr. Chairman, the American public talk and listen to the people who un- of this majority because there is no deserves better. derstand the problems and represent budget. Finally, you can learn a lot about the communities lacking broadband. Mr. Chairman, the problem goes be- this majority by seeing the bills they Mr. Chairman, I support this com- yond the Democrats’ lack of results. As refused to consider these first 100 days. monsense amendment. a majority, the Democrats have fo- After spending weeks unwilling to Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chairman, I will cused on three principles above all else: condemn anti-Semitic remarks, you be brief here. The only effort to nation- resolutions, radicalism, and resistance. would think House Democrats would alize 5G and to fully regulate 5G is con- One in five votes in this House that rush to schedule real legislation. We tained in the Democrats’ bill. That is has been taken since the end of Janu- have a bill sitting at the Speaker’s where it is happening. ary were nonbinding messaging resolu- desk right now that would take con- We had an amendment in the Rules tions. Just last week, we wasted time crete steps to counter the growing boy- Committee to prevent that, and the debating a symbolic resolution on cott, divestment, sanctions movement

VerDate Sep 11 2014 01:43 Apr 11, 2019 Jkt 089060 PO 00000 Frm 00006 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10AP7.011 H10APPT1 April 10, 2019 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H3229 against our greatest ally in the Middle Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chair, I yield back But there is strong evidence that the East, Israel. You would think that, Mr. the balance of my time. percentage of Americans without Chairman, but that would be wrong. Mr. STANTON. Mr. Chair, I yield broadband access is much higher than You would think that after the Vir- back the balance of my time. the FCC’s numbers indicate. ginia Governor made comments that The Acting CHAIR (Mr. NEGUSE). The In order to justify Chairman Pai’s de- seemed to support infanticide, House question is on the amendment offered regulation agenda, the FCC released Democrats would rush to schedule the by the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. highly flawed and misleading data that Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protec- STANTON). paints a false picture of broadband de- tion Act. Remember, this bill simply The amendment was agreed to. ployment in rural America. ensures that all babies, regardless of AMENDMENT NO. 9 OFFERED BY MR. TRONE We now know the FCC’s data was when they are born, receive the med- The Acting CHAIR. It is now in order based on a massive error that was ical care they deserve as human beings. to consider amendment No. 9 printed in brought to his attention before the Yet for the 31st time—no exaggeration, part A of House Report 116–37. FCC disseminated the press release 31 times we have asked on this floor for Mr. TRONE. Mr. Chairman, I have an touting their success. That kind of de- unanimous consent to bring that bill amendment at the desk. ception could lead to millions of our up—Democrats have refused. The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will neighbors in rural America being That is what they spent 100 days on. designate the amendment. locked out of this critical good. This amendment seeks to address They refuse to defend newborns from The text of the amendment is as fol- this issue by, one, prohibiting the FCC infanticide because they are beholden lows: to the most extreme factions of their from releasing a report based on infor- Add at the end the following: own party. mation it knows to be inaccurate; and, SEC. 4. ACCURACY OF DATA UNDERLYING two, specifying the Commission must Mr. Chairman, the American people BROADBAND DEPLOYMENT RE- deserve better. PORTS. use its best efforts to ensure all future The only unifying theme of the (a) FINDINGS.—Congress finds the fol- reports are accurate, and they must Democrats’ 100 days has been their lowing: correct past inaccuracies prior to the nonstop resistance to President Trump. (1) The Commission has released reports on release of new data on broadband de- For 2 years, Democrats insisted that its inquiries under section 706(b) of the Tele- ployment. the President colluded with Russia to communications Act of 1996 (47 U.S.C. It is pretty simple. We need accurate win the 2016 election. Their own chair- 1302(b)) that detail the state of the deploy- information to make the best decisions ment of broadband service in the United man of the House Permanent Select States. regarding broadband deployment. Let’s Committee on Intelligence, the one (2) Congress and the Commission have re- ensure we get that from the FCC mov- who is supposed to see and protect us, lied upon the accuracy of such reports to de- ing forward, and then let’s ensure told the American public in 2017 that velop broadband policy. every American has access to reliable there was more than circumstantial (3) The findings of such reports have been high-speed broadband. evidence to prove it. particularly important to fostering rural Mr. Chair, I urge my colleagues to Yet when the Mueller report found no broadband deployment and broadband de- support this amendment, and I reserve evidence of collusion, Democrats re- ployment to schools and classrooms. the balance of my time. fused to accept the conclusion. They (b) REQUIREMENTS.—The Commission— Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chairman, I claim (1) may not release a report on an inquiry the time in opposition to the amend- refused to do anything to ADAM SCHIFF under section 706(b) of the Telecommuni- who had lied to the American public cations Act of 1996 (47 U.S.C. 1302(b)) based ment, but I am not opposed to the for the last 2 years. They didn’t apolo- on broadband deployment data that the amendment. gize for misleading the public either. Commission knows to be inaccurate; and The Acting CHAIR. Without objec- No, without missing a beat and aided (2) shall use its best efforts to accurately tion, the gentleman from Oregon is rec- by the liberal media, they simply detail broadband deployment in the United ognized for 5 minutes. opened up new investigations. That is States and correct inaccuracies in state- There was no objection. what they did for their 100 days. ments made by the Commission prior to the Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chairman, I yield Who pays for these endless investiga- release of a report about the report. myself such time as I may consume. (c) COMMISSION DEFINED.—In this section, tions? You, the hardworking taxpayer. Mr. Chair, I appreciate my col- the term ‘‘Commission’’ means the Federal league’s concern about the accuracy of The Democrats are happy to continue Communications Commission. to run up the tab and never bring a the FCC’s reports on deployment. I The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to budget to the floor to show their val- share those. And with his broader con- House Resolution 294, the gentleman ues. cern about broadband generally, I from Maryland (Mr. TRONE) and a agree with that. b 0945 Member opposed each will control 5 In fact, many Members on both sides Mr. Chair, the American public de- minutes. of the aisle share these concerns, espe- serves better. The Chair recognizes the gentleman cially when it comes to the unserved Today, the Democrats are leaving for from Maryland. Americans in our most rural areas, like their Member retreat and then a 2- Mr. TRONE. Mr. Chair, I yield myself my district that would stretch from week spring break. Let’s hope they such time as I may consume. the Atlantic to Ohio. It is a big dis- come back with more than a tan. Let’s In 21st century America, having reli- trict. hope they come back with a new game able, high-speed internet broadband So, I will support this amendment. plan. Let’s hope they come back ready isn’t a luxury; it is a necessity. Just However, I would ask my colleagues to to work for the common good, not sim- like running water or electricity, it is seriously consider, Mr. Chairman, the ply to appease their extremist, radical part of our essential infrastructure, yet negative impacts of giving the FCC base. millions of Americans in rural commu- power to regulate rates on rural Now, we are ready and eager to work nities, including some in my district in broadband deployment. with Democrats. We are ready to work western Maryland, remain discon- Mr. KINZINGER’s amendment to block with Democrats to secure our border. nected from the internet. any sort of rate regulation was actu- We are ready to work with Democrats That lack of connectivity leads to ally blocked by the majority from to upgrade our infrastructure. We are homework gaps, healthcare gaps, and being considered today, and that is un- ready to work with Democrats to lower economic development gaps. It is our fortunate. the cost of prescription drugs and ad- job in Congress to eliminate those At the full committee markup, Mr. dress the opioid crisis. gaps. KINZINGER highlighted a memo from We stand ready to work with anyone The Federal Communications Com- the Congressional Research Service to solve the problems our country mission is required to report accurate that noted there is nothing permanent faces, in the next 100 days and beyond. data to the public so that we can make to the forbearance that the majority After 100 days, please, Mr. Chair, let’s effective decisions about rural claims to be doing when it comes to get to work. The American people de- broadband infrastructure policy and in- controlling the prices providers charge serve nothing less. vestment. consumers.

VerDate Sep 11 2014 01:43 Apr 11, 2019 Jkt 089060 PO 00000 Frm 00007 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10AP7.013 H10APPT1 H3230 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 10, 2019 So, we could get into rate regulation bring the internet to parts of the coun- under title II when they had that au- through the FCC, and every ISP would try that don’t yet have it. thority may preclude rate regulation have to come back here and beg and ex- I would say to my friend from Or- there, by giving them this enormous plain their rate structure and every- egon, the bill is crystal clear on rate authority, your own counsel testified thing else. And we have got thousands regulation. The language clearly pro- in answer to our question, that they of them. hibits any rate regulation, so rural could go through a standard rule- The majority attempted to remedy folks need not worry about that. making process and use sections 201 this flaw with some additional lan- Through the act, the FCC will have and 202 to do their own rate regulation. guage purporting to lock in the FCC’s the authority to accelerate deployment You see, you may close the front forbearance on this matter, but the ac- of broadband by removing barriers to door, but you left the back door open. tual effect of that language is still un- infrastructure investment and by pro- Actually, you created a back door. clear. moting competition. And, furthering That is where I am concerned, and Most importantly, they left open the that goal, Congress requires that the my side is concerned that you are em- broad authority of sections 201 and 202 FCC report on the state of broadband powering the FCC with these incredible of the Communications Act and other deployment nationwide. authorities designed for monopoly rail- authority that gives the Federal Com- The results, every year, are particu- roads and designed for monopoly com- munications Commission, all five larly important because they are used munications systems that could really unelected officials, plenty of leeway to to figure out where to best direct funds hamper future investment in things regulate rates under title II. for rural broadband deployment. And like 5G and provide all this micro- The legislation we have before us to name a few, that is important for management of the internet and harm clearly leaves the door open to rate consumers, schools, libraries, and hos- consumers. That is why so many of us regulation. If this were not the case, pitals that they get the connections oppose this particular provision. then the Kinzinger amendment, I they need. I keep seeing Republicans on this And we need to know that the FCC’s would think, would be before the House floor, Mr. Chairman, accept the Demo- data is accurate. We expect the FCC to today or would have been approved in crats’ amendments in almost every use its best efforts to ensure that the committee when we had a chance to do case. They blocked some of ours from data is up to date and error free before that. being able to be considered. releasing their reports. This is no way to conduct business in But, when it comes to this funda- Recently, the traditional diligence of the internet age. These title II regula- mental issue of turning the internet the FCC has been called into question. tions were originally implemented for over to the Federal Government and According to news reports, the FCC is railroad monopolies in the 19th cen- three unelected people to do incredible preparing a report that contains data tury. So, if you really believe in a com- things that aren’t good for the long- that an internet service provider has petitive, open marketplace and a com- term benefit of consumers and new told the FCC is wrong. The carrier re- petitive, open internet, you don’t turn technologies, we have to remain op- ported that it provided high-speed it over to unelected bureaucrats in posed. broadband to everyone in 10 states Washington to micromanage. Mr. Chair, I yield back the balance of when its actual service area was a frac- As they were applied in their original my time. incarnation, the requirements of just tion of that. This serious oversight seriously al- Mr. TRONE. Mr. Chair, I yield back and reasonable practices under section ters the state of broadband deployment the balance of my time. 201(b) and no unreasonable discrimina- in this country and calls into question The Acting CHAIR. The question is tion under 202(a)—which, by the way, data used by this administration to on the amendment offered by the gen- sound perfect—provided sufficient au- justify other policies. tleman from Maryland (Mr. TRONE). thority to impose price controls on Despite that internet service pro- The amendment was agreed to. railroads. vider coming forward, the FCC has not AMENDMENT NO. 10 OFFERED BY MR. BRINDISI So, by opening the door with title II even corrected a press statement that The Acting CHAIR. It is now in order and these other sections of law, you are was, in part, based on that erroneous to consider amendment No. 10 printed now giving this vast power to basically data entitled ‘‘America’s Digital Di- in part A of House Report 116–37. three unelected officials at the FCC. vide Narrows Substantially.’’ Mr. BRINDISI. Mr. Chair, I have an You just need a majority to decide how As the expert agency regulating amendment at the desk. the whole internet runs. I think that is broadband, it cannot knowingly put The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will a problem. out false information that misleads the designate the amendment. Mr. Chair, I support the amendment, public. This amendment will help rem- The text of the amendment is as fol- and I reserve the balance of my time. edy that. That is why I support it, and lows: Mr. TRONE. Mr. Chairman, I thank that is why I think we should all vote Add at the end the following: the gentleman for his comments. for it. Mr. Chairman, good policy simply SEC. 4 GAO REPORT ON HIGH-SPEED INFRA- Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chair, may I in- STRUCTURE. needs good data. We need accurate, re- quire how much time I have remaining. (a) REPORT.—Not later than 1 year after liable information to target our poli- The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman the date of the enactment of this Act, the cies and resources as effectively as pos- 1 from Oregon has 2 ⁄2 minutes remain- Comptroller General of the United States sible. ing. shall submit to Congress and the Federal This amendment simply ensures re- Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chairman, I yield Communications Commission a report that ports issued by the FCC are accurate, myself such time as I may consume. contains— and we should all be able to agree on Again, I appreciate the gentleman’s (1) a list of ways the Federal Government can promote the deployment of broadband that. And I thank the gentleman for amendment. As I said, I intend to sup- that. Internet access service, especially the build- port it. We need the facts here, and I out of such service to rural areas and areas Mr. Chair, I urge my colleagues to support getting the facts. without access to such service at high support this amendment, and I reserve We know the reporting data we often speeds; and the balance of my time. get is not accurate. And, if people are (2) recommendations with respect to poli- Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chairman, I have lying about their data, then we should cies and regulations to ensure rural areas are no other speakers, and I reserve the hold them accountable, and I’ll join provided affordable access to broadband balance of my time. you in that effort. That is not accept- Internet access service. Mr. TRONE. Mr. Chair, I yield the able. (b) DEFINITIONS.—In this section: balance of my time to the gentleman On the issue of rate regulation, that (1) BROADBAND INTERNET ACCESS SERVICE.— The term ‘‘broadband Internet access serv- from Pennsylvania (Mr. MICHAEL F. is what title II is all about. That is ice’’ has the meaning given such term in sec- DOYLE). what this bill gives the FCC the au- tion 8.2 of title 47, Code of Federal Regula- Mr. MICHAEL F. DOYLE of Pennsyl- thority to do. tions. vania. Mr. Chair, the Save the Internet While you can argue that adopting (2) RURAL AREA.—The term ‘‘rural area’’ Act will ensure net neutrality and help the forbearances that the FCC did means any area other than—

VerDate Sep 11 2014 01:43 Apr 11, 2019 Jkt 089060 PO 00000 Frm 00008 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10AP7.016 H10APPT1 April 10, 2019 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H3231 (A) a city, town, or incorporated area that you should be extremely concerned order. Well, we all know that is not has a population of more than 20,000 inhab- about the impact the underlying bill is true, and the proof is in the pudding. itants; or going to have on our ability to get Investment data shows an aggregate (B) an urbanized area contiguous and adja- broadband out to these areas and close increase in investment following the cent to a city or town that has a population FCC’s February 2015 vote to adopt the of more than 50,000 inhabitants. the digital divide. Title II is a proven investment killer, open internet rules compared to the 2 The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to period, hard stop. This is shown not years following the repeal of the 2015 House Resolution 294, the gentleman only in the overall nationwide invest- order, when investment actually de- from New York (Mr. BRINDISI) and a ment numbers going down during the creased. Member opposed each will control 5 only 2-year blip these rules were in ef- The same is true of most ISPs’ indi- minutes. fect. Remember, my colleague from vidual investments. The majority of The Chair recognizes the gentleman New York, these internet rules you are publicly traded broadband providers re- from New York. about only existed for less than about ported investment increases after the Mr. BRINDISI. Mr. Chair, I yield my- 2 years. That is it. 2015 order was adopted. In the first year self such time as I may consume. The whole growth, the expansion of following adoption of the 2015 rules, Mr. Chair, I would like to thank the the internet and broadband occurred census data showed a $3.5 billion jump gentleman from Pennsylvania for his during the period of the 1990s to 2015. in capital spending in data processing, leadership on this important topic. Then the internet order was put in and hosting, and related services. The free market is the cornerstone of Moreover, the repeal of the 2015 order investment went down, and then the America’s economy, and this bill would did not result in a use boost to infra- ensure that free-market competition is internet order was repealed and invest- structure spending, as the Trump FCC protected on the internet. ment is going up. asserted would happen. Instead, invest- However, for many Americans living The head of the Eastern Oregon ment actually decreased. in small towns, basic internet access Telecom Company, Joe Franell, came This amendment before us is impor- remains out of reach. Too many homes back to Washington and testified be- tant. Though many of our constituents in rural areas are not connected at all fore our subcommittee and said, under enjoy easy access to high-speed to high-speed broadband, and those title II, his investors lost interest; broadband, there are still many pock- that are online suffer from slow speeds deals dried up; the bank wouldn’t even ets of this country that aren’t served and constant interruptions in service. give him a loan. It was an extremely by high-speed broadband. Or, as my Customers see their bills go up compelling story from somebody who is good friend PETER WELCH from the month after month, and service just on the front lines of getting broadband great State of Vermont says about the gets worse and worse. built out to the very areas you and I promises of 5G: ‘‘Some of us have no Internet access is essential in today’s would agree need service. Gs.’’ economy, and we need to do more to And we heard from many other small The Save the Internet Act is going to connect rural areas to high-speed rural ISPs as well with the same sto- restore net neutrality throughout the broadband. ries. They are the ones that take the country, and it is going to give the My amendment would direct the Gov- worst hit under title II that is in this FCC key authorities that buttress crit- ernment Accountability Office to issue bill you support. ical programs, such as the Connect recommendations on how to expand Now, I submitted an amendment to America Fund that provides money to broadband internet service in rural and the Rules Committee to do something build high-speed broadband out to other underserved areas. This informa- real to address the worst uncertainties areas where it would not be economic tion will help guide our work on how to that these small carriers have to deal to do so without the funding. The Save the Internet Act also gives best expand broadband access in rural with under title II. internet service providers nondiscrim- communities. Title II opens the door to government inatory access to rights of way and I urge adoption of my amendment, control of private networks. It opens poles, which will facilitate build-out in and I, again, thank the gentleman from the door to government taxation of the internet. It opens the door to govern- rural areas. Pennsylvania for his leadership on this Unless we connect our rural commu- bill and urge our colleagues to pass the ment regulation of speech online. My amendment would have closed all nities, the people in them cannot fully underlying legislation. be active participants in the 21st cen- Mr. Chair, I reserve the balance of of those doors. Unfortunately, the Democrats, again, who control the tury economy. They are missing out on my time. education and workforce opportunities Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chairman, I claim Rules Committee, Mr. Chairman, 2 to 1, would not find a way to even allow us that are so often now delivered online. the time in opposition to the amend- That is why much of the rural ment, although I am not opposed to the to bring that amendment here for a vote or debate. broadband deployment in this country amendment. is funded by the Connect America The Acting CHAIR. Without objec- I have to say, under title II, our smallest rural ISPs would have a really Fund. tion, the gentleman from Oregon is rec- This amendment would require GAO tough time, and we have seen a lot of ognized for 5 minutes. to examine these issues and to provide There was no objection. evidence of this in the past. So I hope a report with recommendations about my friends will consider that, when we b 1000 how the government can promote are voting on this underlying bill, we build-out to hard-to-reach or otherwise Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chairman, again, I are actually going to cause those small overlooked communities. This is such support this amendment to require the ISPs more harm than good, and that an important policy issue and such an GAO to look into ways to promote de- will delay deployment into unserved important part of saving the internet. ployment of broadband to our most and underserved communities. I look forward to joining my col- rural and underserved areas. It is a A GAO study on deployment will leagues in supporting this amendment. very worthy subject and one on which have no impact whatsoever on deploy- Mr. BRINDISI. Mr. Chairman, I again I think we can find some really broad ment-killing excesses of title II, but it urge adoption of the amendment, and I bipartisan agreement. It is a top pri- will give us some ideas about how to yield back the balance of my time. ority of mine and has been, so I won’t build out broadband, so I won’t oppose Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chair, may I in- oppose the amendment. the amendment. quire as to how much time remains. We are obviously delegating a lot of I reserve the balance of my time. The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman authority to the GAO, which is a won- Mr. BRINDISI. Mr. Chairman, I yield from Oregon has 21⁄4 minutes remain- derful organization, but we all have to the gentleman from Pennsylvania. ing. had hearings and know what really Mr. MICHAEL F. DOYLE of Pennsyl- Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chair, I appreciate needs to happen, I think, going forward vania. Mr. Chairman, I thank the gen- both my colleagues’ comments, but the to get broadband built out. However, if tleman for yielding. nationwide numbers of investment ob- you are really concerned about deploy- We keep hearing this talk about how scure what happens in our smallest in- ment to rural and underserved areas, investment plummeted after the 2015 vestors, among those that are out

VerDate Sep 11 2014 01:43 Apr 11, 2019 Jkt 089060 PO 00000 Frm 00009 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A10AP7.009 H10APPT1 H3232 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 10, 2019 there, like Joe Franell in Eastern Or- (1) determine the accuracy and granularity would also include a provision to re- egon trying to build out. of the maps produced by the Federal Commu- store the FCC’s authority to fund the What we do know is he came back nications Commission that depict wireline expansion of broadband access across and testified to the problem he encoun- and wireless broadband Internet access serv- our rural communities. But right now, ice deployment in the United States; and tered individually as one who is very (2) submit to Congress a report that— there are many questions surrounding progressive and active, trying to con- (A) identifies— the accuracy of the FCC’s broadband nect really difficult places to get to (i) any program of the Federal Commu- internet maps, which detail which with the highest speed broadband pos- nications Commission under a rule restored areas in the United States have high- sible. under section 2(b) that relies on such maps, speed internet coverage and which do I have met with him before; I have including any funding program; and not. met with him during; I have met with (ii) any action of the Federal Communica- These maps have important implica- him afterwards. He came back on his tions Commission taken under a rule re- tions for our rural communities, stored under section 2(b) that relies on such own dime to make the case that, when maps, including any assessment of competi- schools, and businesses. These maps these rules were in effect, he had dif- tion in an industry; and are used to award funding and subsidies ficulty getting loans; he had difficulty (B) provides recommendations for how the to expand broadband coverage to areas building out; he was burdened more Federal Communications Commission can that don’t have it, and, in many cases, than he had ever been before, and that produce more accurate, reliable, and granu- these efforts have led to great success. diminished his ability to build out. lar maps that depict wireline and wireless However, these maps have been found His numbers probably are dust in broadband Internet access service deploy- to be inaccurate, incomplete, or unreli- terms of investment that the big com- ment in the United States. able. Often a map will claim an entire (b) BROADBAND INTERNET ACCESS SERVICE area is covered by high-speed panies have, but that is who I care DEFINED.—In this section, the term about are the little operators that are ‘‘broadband Internet access service’’ has the broadband when, in reality, only a so pushed down by this heavy hand of meaning given such term in section 8.2 of small portion of that area has reliable government overregulation. So that is, title 47, Code of Federal Regulations. coverage. I think, what we have to maintain our The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to This trend should not be the status focus on. House Resolution 294, the gentlewoman quo in our digital age because it leaves Again, title II gives these vast un- from Virginia (Ms. SPANBERGER) and a so many rural families underserved. precedented powers to the FCC to regu- Member opposed each will control 5 Areas where the FCC’s maps incor- late the internet like it has never been minutes. rectly say there is high-speed rural regulated before. People who have no The Chair recognizes the gentle- broadband connectivity are often ineli- Gs need our help, but people waiting woman from Virginia. gible for funding to expand broadband, for 5G don’t need us to pass legislation Ms. SPANBERGER. Mr. Chair, I rise and these inaccuracies greatly dis- that will screw it up and diminish in- in support of my commonsense advantage our rural communities. novation, and that is one of the reasons broadband mapping amendment to H.R. Erroneous information in these maps I am opposing this version of net neu- 1644, the Save the Internet Act of 2019. could be the difference between a sen- trality. The digital gap between our rural ior citizen being able to access life- We could agree on no throttling and and urban communities is real, and I saving telemedicine services or not; it no blocking and the paid prioritization hear about it from the people I serve could be the difference between a farm- issue as well. every day. er who can keep up with market fluc- The other thing I found interesting, According to the FCC’s 2018 tuations halfway across the world or Mr. Chairman, is, throughout the Broadband Deployment Report, more not; and it could control the ability of course of all of our hearings, there than 30 percent of rural Americans a young, aspiring student to access on- wasn’t a witness panel of people who lack access to high-speed fixed line information, college applications, had faced all of these parade of broadband, compared to only 2 percent and research materials. horribles we have heard about from of urban Americans. This disparity has My amendment to the Save the ISPs. long-term implications for the eco- Internet Act would address a lack of There weren’t any witnesses. They nomic strength and security of our reliable broadband internet didn’t bring anybody. I don’t know if country. connectivity in our rural communities, they are out there or not. They didn’t In rural America, a lack of reliable and it would begin to fix the errors in bring anybody who has been affected broadband internet makes it harder for our current broadband maps. by the edge providers, however, and businesses to find customers and at- My amendment would require the that is another subject for our con- tract new employees. Without reliable Government Accountability Office to versation going forward. broadband internet, communities produce a full report that examines the Mr. Chairman, I support the amend- across this country face challenges at- accuracy and quality of the FCC’s ment, and I yield back the balance of tracting new businesses and invest- broadband mapping. This report would my time. ment. also identify what the FCC should do The Acting CHAIR. The question is In rural America, farmers have a to produce more accurate, reliable, and on the amendment offered by the gen- tougher time using the latest precision high-quality maps. tleman from New York (Mr. BRINDISI). agriculture technology, and in places Additionally, the GAO report re- The amendment was agreed to. without reliable broadband internet, quired by my amendment would help identify the scope of the broadband AMENDMENT NO. 11 OFFERED BY MS. kids find it difficult to complete their SPANBERGER homework assignments. mapping problem and actually suggest The Acting CHAIR. It is now in order In our district in central Virginia, solutions. With this new information, to consider amendment No. 11 printed farmers and producers are disadvan- the FCC would be better able to update in part A of House Report 116–37. taged because the lack of broadband its maps so that we can properly target Ms. SPANBERGER. Mr. Chairman, I makes doing business harder. In our our broadband expansion efforts to the have an amendment at the desk. district, constituents drive their kids rural towns, townships, and commu- The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will to McDonald’s or to neighboring coun- nities across our district. Better maps of broadband coverage designate the amendment. ties so that they can complete their re- are a critical first step toward getting The text of the amendment is as fol- search projects for school. And what is high-speed internet to every household, lows: happening in our district is happening nationwide. something we should aim to do in our Add at the end the following: Today, we are considering a critical globalized, digitally-focused economy. SEC. 4. GAO REPORT ON CHALLENGES TO ACCU- As we are having important discussions RATE MAPPING. piece of legislation to champion the (a) REPORT.—Not later than 1 year after idea of a free and open internet. about protecting and expanding reli- the date of the enactment of this Act, the There is no question that rural able access to the internet, I urge my Comptroller General of the United States broadband internet access should be a colleagues to support this amendment shall— part of this conversation, as this bill to H.R. 1644.

VerDate Sep 11 2014 01:43 Apr 11, 2019 Jkt 089060 PO 00000 Frm 00010 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10AP7.021 H10APPT1 April 10, 2019 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H3233 Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance I am not going to oppose the amend- Ms. SPANBERGER. Mr. Chair, I of my time. ment, but it seems like there is kind of yield back the balance of my time. Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chairman, I claim a conflict here, potentially. Because we Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chair, I yield my- the time in opposition to the amend- want to get it right, it seems like we self such time as I may consume. ment, although I don’t think I am op- would wait to have the FCC report Mr. Chair, I appreciate the gentle- posed to the amendment. back until the GAO had completed its woman’s amendment and the gentle- The Acting CHAIR. Without objec- work. Then we could work with the man’s comments. We can figure out tion, the gentleman from Oregon is rec- FCC to say, okay, now that we know how to work this out, I think. But ognized for 5 minutes. what the GAO has found and informed clearly, we have to fix the maps. There was no objection. us on, then, FCC, go and report back. Even the industry has told me, at Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chairman, I don’t I might have structured this a little least—they admit the data, the way it disagree with my colleague from Vir- differently had we had time to work is collected and everything else, is not ginia that the maps showing broadband out some of that. an accurate representation. They deployment in the United States can I am not going to oppose the gentle- would like our help in this as well. and must be improved. That is why, woman’s amendment. We have to get Hopefully, we can move forward on when Republicans held the majority for the data right. We have to get the map- an NTIA reauthorization as well. We the Energy and Commerce Committee, ping right. marched through a number of agency we held numerous hearings on how to When the stimulus came out in the reauthorizations and programmatic re- do that, how to improve broadband Obama administration, I argued this authorizations that hadn’t been done mapping at the FCC. very point in the committee. We were in decades in the last 2 years. We We also shared legislation with our in the minority then, so of course, I should continue that important work Democratic—then minority—col- lost. But they were spending money as well. We stand ready as Republicans leagues to bring in the expertise of the that was being set aside in the stim- to join our colleagues to get that done. National Telecommunications and In- ulus to build out broadband in America Mr. Chair, I yield back the balance of formation Administration to aggregate before they had the maps to figure out my time. granular data beyond the carrier data where people were underserved and The Acting CHAIR. The question is that the FCC uses for its maps. unserved. on the amendment offered by the gen- Unfortunately, our colleagues on the It seemed kind of backward then, and tlewoman from Virginia (Ms. other side of the aisle didn’t want to I think it was. We didn’t get the maps SPANBERGER). work with us to improve mapping last until after the money was allocated. The amendment was agreed to. Congress. I am more hopeful this time The time to do the audits and evalua- AMENDMENT NO. 12 OFFERED BY MR. MCADAMS that we can engage—we are ready, will- tions of how that money was spent, the The Acting CHAIR. It is now in order ing, and able to do so—and that we can money for that ran out before the to consider amendment No. 12 printed address this matter. build-out was finished, so we had to in part A of House Report 116–37. Mapping is clearly important—I come back to look at that. Then we did Mr. MCADAMS. Mr. Chair, I have an think we all agree on that—and it is find limited cases of fraud and abuse, amendment at the desk. where we should focus our limited Fed- not much, frankly, but enough. It is The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will eral money on broadband support. But taxpayer dollars. designate the amendment. rather than help spur broadband de- I won’t oppose the gentlewoman’s The text of the amendment is as fol- ployment and provide more granular amendment. I think we can work out lows: data, the underlying legislation would these things if this bill were to move Add at the end the following: make it more difficult on broadband forward, but the timing is the issue SEC. 4. LAWFUL CONTENT. providers to deploy broadband. that I have some reservations on. We just discussed how investment in (a) IN GENERAL.—As described in the Re- Mr. Chair, I reserve the balance of port and Order on Remand, Declaratory Rul- broadband, especially for our small my time. ing, and Order in the matter of protecting providers, suffered under title II. They Ms. SPANBERGER. Mr. Chair, may I and promoting the open internet that was came and testified to that. inquire how much time I have remain- adopted by the Federal Communications But my reservation on this amend- ing? Commission on February 26, 2015 (FCC 15– ment, Mr. Chairman, has to do with The Acting CHAIR. The gentlewoman 24)— the conflict that I see between the from Virginia has 1 minute remaining. (1) nothing in this Act prohibits providers Wexton amendment, No. 5, and the Ms. SPANBERGER. Mr. Chair, I of broadband Internet access service from Spanberger amendment, No. 11. I won- yield the balance of my time to the blocking content that is not lawful, such as child pornography or copyright-infringing der if the gentlewoman from Virginia gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. MI- materials; and CHAEL F. DOYLE). would care to comment about that, and (2) nothing in this Act imposes any inde- I would be happy to yield. I didn’t have Mr. MICHAEL F. DOYLE of Pennsyl- pendent legal obligation on providers of a chance to talk with her. It may not vania. Mr. Chair, I thank the gentle- broadband Internet access service to be the be fair. woman for yielding. arbiter of what is lawful content. The issue here is the Wexton amend- Mr. Chair, I would say to my friend, (b) BROADBAND INTERNET ACCESS SERVICE ment, which we did not oppose, re- I think what we are trying to do in DEFINED.—In this section, the term quires the Federal Communications these two amendments is, we need the ‘‘broadband Internet access service’’ has the Commission to submit to Congress, FCC to get on this as soon as possible, meaning given such term in section 8.2 of title 47, Code of Federal Regulations. within 30 days, a plan for how the Com- but we need the GAO to continue to mission will evaluate and address prob- look at this. But I understand what the The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to lems with the collection of form 477 gentleman is saying. House Resolution 294, the gentleman data. Look, we know these maps are from Utah (Mr. MCADAMS) and a Mem- wrong. I mean, nobody is arguing about ber opposed each will control 5 min- b 1015 that, and it is unacceptable. What the utes. I believe those are the same data we gentlewoman’s amendment would do is The Chair recognizes the gentleman are talking about with your amend- ask the GAO to do a report to examine from Utah. ment to have the GAO do this inves- the current mapping processes for both Mr. MCADAMS. Mr. Chair, I rise tigation and report to Congress as well. wireless and wired line services. today to offer an amendment to H.R. The conflict I see is, on the one hand, They would also be asked to identify 1644, the Save the Internet Act. we are telling the FCC to go do its what FCC programs and actions rely on As the father of four children, I work and report back in 30 days, but in maps and to make recommendations on worry about what my kids see on social your amendment, we are telling the how the FCC could produce more reli- media and online, and I know firsthand GAO to go do its work and tell us even- able maps. how important it is that illegal con- tually where the problems are. They I think this is an important amend- tent doesn’t pollute the internet. can do that, but we have already told ment. I support it, and I urge all my My amendment would affirm that the FCC to report back its answers. colleagues to support it also. this bill preserves broadband internet

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This was similar to the FCC’s earlier amendment is that it simply restates We are here today to vote on legisla- nonblocking rule, which was also af- what is already in the 2015 Open Inter- tion to protect the internet as an en- firmed, that ISPs could block material net Order, namely, that nothing in this gine of innovation and open commu- that was unlawful. bill would prohibit ISPs from blocking nication free from undue restrictions, It strikes me as interesting that you unlawful content and that nothing in such as blocking legal content and have to have this amendment to appar- this act adds any additional require- services, throttling service, and paid ently clarify an ambiguity some must ment or right for an ISP to decide what prioritization of content. While the bill feel exists in the underlying bill, but is lawful content? does not, as currently written, revoke we will support it if it is necessary to Mr. MCADAMS. Mr. Chair, yes, that service providers’ ability to block ille- do that. is correct. Nothing in this amendment gal content, I believe the House can I firmly support net neutrality that grants any sort of new rights to an agree that we should nonetheless af- allows Americans to enjoy the lawful ISP. Rather, this amendment simply firm our commitment to stopping un- content on the internet and applica- stands for the proposition that unlaw- lawful behaviors, such as viewing child tions of their choosing. ful content is not protected by net neu- I would point out to my friend from pornography and copyright infringe- trality rules. In other words, blocking Utah that the concerns about social ment. unlawful content does not violate net My amendment does not impose addi- media, and I share them, are not cov- neutrality. ered by this legislation. Those big plat- tional or onerous legal requirements on Mr. MICHAEL F. DOYLE of Pennsyl- forms are completely exempt, as near service providers to act as an arbiter of vania. Mr. Chair, I thank the gen- as we can tell, so that is another area lawfulness but, rather, ensures pro- tleman for clarifying that. I support where I think we all share a common viders can continue working with con- the gentleman’s amendment. bond, that there is concern about what sumer watchdogs and law enforcement Since this is the last of the amend- goes on in social media, things that to keep our internet free from illegal ments to be offered, I wanted to take aren’t legal, things that are fake. I content and to make it safe for our this time to thank my friend and the mean, you name it. Republican side for a vigorous debate families. Under title II, the FCC could police Let me reiterate this amendment not only in our committee but here on internet content, as it currently does also does not grant ISPs any new the floor. with content broadcasts over television Mr. Chair, I would be remiss if I rights to block content that is lawful or radio. I was a radio broadcaster for didn’t thank our staffs, namely Alex or decide what is lawful on the inter- 21 years, owned and operated stations, Hoehn-Saric, Jerry Leverich, Jennifer net. My amendment simply stands for and that concerns me a bit if we are Epperson, AJ Brown, Dan Miller, Ken- the proposition that unlawful content going to get the FCC being the Na- neth Degraff, and my telecom staff, is not protected by net neutrality tion’s speech police. By making further Philip Murphy. Without him, I rules. rules on the ISPs, you might be able to wouldn’t sound as intelligent as I do on It is one thing to say ISPs can block end up there. That is a concern. these matters. I thank all of the Demo- content subject to a valid court order This is a really broad, open-ended au- cratic staff. They worked very hard, and quite another to let ISPs make de- thority that you all are giving to the and they deserve our thanks. cisions about the lawfulness of content Federal Communications Commission. Mr. Chair, this has been a vigorous for themselves. This amendment That is because the FCC did not fore- debate, as it should be, but we are com- strikes that balance. bear from some content-specific provi- ing to a close now, and I thank my We have bipartisan consensus on the sions of title II, such as section 223. friend for his participation. tremendous value of the internet’s con- That would give the FCC authority to Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chair, I thank the tribution to our society’s innovation impose content-based restrictions if it gentleman for his comments, and I and communication, and I also know found it to be ‘‘just and reasonable.’’ yield myself such time as I may con- that there is bipartisan concern about That goes well beyond just the legal sume. severe illegal misuses of the internet’s content, I think. I again thank the gentleman from power. I believe my amendment offers I am not burdened with a law degree, Utah for bringing this amendment. I us an opportunity to confirm our sup- but I have some really good lawyers guess my suspicions were right: It is port once again for a free internet with that counsel me on these matters. merely restating what is already in the unfettered access to legal content and This is why we offered an amendment 2015 order, which is what this bill basi- to our vehement opposition to child that would have put certain protec- cally reinstates into law. pornography. tions in place for consumers’ freedom Mr. Chair, I thank my staff as well Mr. Chair, I thank the members of of speech online because that is also for the great job they have done. I ap- the committee for their work on this something we all swear to uphold, our preciate both sides as we work together legislation, and I urge a ‘‘yes’’ vote on First Amendment rights of religion and on these complicated and sometimes my amendment. speech. controversial issues. Mr. Chair, I reserve the balance of Rather than talk about how we can I would point out that, under sec- my time. prevent the FCC from someday abusing tions 223 and 201, you are again opening Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chairman, I claim the expansive authority that the ma- the door to vast new regulation of the time in opposition to the amend- jority is about to give it, we are here speech and content, I believe and our ment, even though I am not opposed to discussing something that has been attorneys believe, by giving the FCC it. universally agreed upon by all parties this authority. The Acting CHAIR. Without objec- to this debate. I am a First Amendment guy. I have tion, the gentleman from Oregon is rec- Mr. Chair, we appreciate the gentle- a degree in journalism. I believe in free ognized. man’s perfecting amendment to this speech. Sometimes, I don’t like that There was no objection. legislation. I intend to support it. speech. Sometimes, I find it offensive. Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Chairman, I agree Mr. Chair, I reserve the balance of The stuff that is illegal, you bet, we with my colleague across the aisle, Mr. my time. are all together on. But there are some MCADAMS, that ISPs should be able to Mr. MCADAMS. Mr. Chair, how much interesting stories coming out around block unlawful content, and I support time do I have remaining? Europe and elsewhere where countries his amendment. The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman now, especially some of those in the In fact, even when the FCC imposed has 3 minutes remaining. more authoritarian parts of the world, the heavy-handed title II regulations, Mr. MCADAMS. Mr. Chair, I yield to are using this argument to crack down it recognized in paragraph 113 of its the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. on political speech they find offensive. order that the ban on blocking did not MICHAEL F. DOYLE) for the purpose of a I think we have to be very careful as ‘‘prevent or restrict a broadband pro- colloquy. Republicans, as Democrats, as all

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I think we can find common Aderholt Espaillat Lewis Scott (VA) Stewart Vela´ zquez ground on that, but I do wince a bit Aguilar Estes Lieu, Ted Scott, Austin Stivers Visclosky Allred Evans Lipinski that we are opening the door, or you Scott, David Suozzi Wagner Armstrong Finkenauer Loebsack all are with your bill, to giving the Sensenbrenner Swalwell (CA) Walberg Arrington Fitzpatrick Lofgren FCC the power to tax the internet, the Serrano Takano Walden Axne Fletcher Long Sewell (AL) Taylor Walorski power to regulate speech on the inter- Bacon Flores Loudermilk Shalala Thompson (CA) Waltz net by going through a rulemaking. Baird Fortenberry Lowenthal Sherman Thompson (MS) Wasserman I think that heads us in a little more Balderson Foster Lowey Sherrill Thompson (PA) Schultz Barr Foxx (NC) Lucas Shimkus Thornberry Waters dangerous direction and, meanwhile, ´ Barragan Frankel Luetkemeyer Simpson Timmons Watkins does not address some of the issues I Bass Fudge Luja´ n Sires Tipton Watson Coleman hear in townhalls. I have done 20 of Beatty Gabbard Luria Slotkin Titus Wenstrup them in every county in my district Bera Gallagher Lynch Smith (MO) Tlaib Westerman Beyer Gallego Malinowski this year. When people begin to step up Smith (NE) Tonko Wexton Bilirakis Garamendi Maloney, Smith (NJ) Torres (CA) Wild and have issues, it is not the ISPs they Bishop (GA) Garcı´a (IL) Carolyn B. Smith (WA) Torres Small Wilson (FL) are complaining about, other than Blumenauer Garcia (TX) Maloney, Sean Smucker (NM) Wilson (SC) speeds and connectivity, that sort of Blunt Rochester Gianforte Mast Soto Trahan Wittman Bonamici Gibbs Matsui Spanberger Trone Womack thing. It is what is happening on some Bost Golden McAdams Spano Turner Yarmuth of the social media platforms, which Boyle, Brendan Gomez McBath Speier Underwood Young are not addressed by this bill. F. Gonzalez (OH) McCarthy Brady Gonzalez (TX) McCaul NOES—60 Mr. Chairman, I support the gentle- ´ ´ Brindisi Gonzalez-Colon McClintock Allen Fulcher Marshall man’s amendment, and I yield back the Brooks (IN) (PR) McCollum Amash Gaetz Massie balance of my time. Brown (MD) Gottheimer McGovern Banks Gohmert Meuser Brownley (CA) Granger McHenry Bergman Gooden Mooney (WV) Mr. MCADAMS. Mr. Chair, I yield Buchanan Graves (LA) McKinley back the balance of my time. Biggs Gosar Norman Bucshon Graves (MO) McNerney Bishop (UT) Graves (GA) Palmer The Acting CHAIR. The question is Burgess Green (TN) Meadows Brooks (AL) Guest Posey on the amendment offered by the gen- Bustos Green (TX) Meeks Buck Harris Ratcliffe Butterfield Griffith Meng Budd Hern, Kevin Rice (SC) tleman from Utah (Mr. MCADAMS). Byrne Grijalva Miller The question was taken; and the Act- Burchett Hice (GA) Roy Calvert Grothman Mitchell Carter (GA) Hunter Rutherford ing Chair announced that the ayes ap- Carbajal Guthrie Moolenaar Cline Johnson (LA) Schweikert ´ peared to have it. Cardenas Haaland Moore Conaway Johnson (SD) Steube Carson (IN) Hagedorn Morelle Mr. MICHAEL F. DOYLE of Pennsyl- Crenshaw Jordan Walker Carter (TX) Harder (CA) Moulton Davis, Rodney Joyce (PA) Webster (FL) vania. Mr. Chair, I demand a recorded Cartwright Hartzler Mucarsel-Powell DesJarlais Kelly (MS) Williams vote. Case Hastings Mullin Duncan LaMalfa Woodall Casten (IL) Hayes Murphy Emmer Lamborn Wright The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to Castor (FL) Heck Nadler clause 6 of rule XVIII, further pro- Ferguson Lesko Yoho Castro (TX) Herrera Beutler Napolitano Fleischmann Marchant Zeldin ceedings on the amendment offered by Chabot Higgins (LA) Neal the gentleman from Utah will be post- Cheney Higgins (NY) Neguse NOT VOTING—14 Chu, Judy Hill (AR) Newhouse Abraham McEachin Ryan poned. Cisneros Hill (CA) Norcross Amodei Olson Sa´ nchez Clark (MA) Himes Norton ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE ACTING CHAIR Babin Radewagen Clarke (NY) Holding Nunes Weber (TX) The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to Cicilline Rice (NY) Clay Hollingsworth O’Halleran Welch Cooper Rooney (FL) clause 6 of rule XVIII, proceedings will Cleaver Horn, Kendra S. Ocasio-Cortez now resume on those amendments Cloud Horsford Omar b 1055 printed in part A of House Report 116– Clyburn Houlahan Palazzo Messrs. BROOKS of Alabama, FER- 37 on which further proceedings were Cohen Hoyer Pallone Cole Hudson Panetta GUSON, and RICE of South Carolina postponed, in the following order: Collins (GA) Huffman Pappas changed their vote from ‘‘aye’’ to ‘‘no.’’ Amendment No. 4 by Mr. DELGADO of Collins (NY) Huizenga Pascrell Messrs. WENSTRUP, WESTERMAN, New York. Comer Hurd (TX) Payne Connolly Jackson Lee Pence SCALISE, WATKINS, Mrs. RODGERS Amendment No. 6 by Ms. WEXTON of Cook Jayapal Perlmutter of Washington, Messrs. KELLY of Virginia. Correa Jeffries Perry Pennsylvania, and BARR changed their Amendment No. 12 by Mr. MCADAMS Costa Johnson (GA) Peters vote from ‘‘no’’ to ‘‘aye.’’ of Utah. Courtney Johnson (OH) Peterson Cox (CA) Johnson (TX) Phillips So the amendment was agreed to. The Chair will reduce to 2 minutes Craig Joyce (OH) Pingree The result of the vote was announced the minimum time for any electronic Crawford Kaptur Plaskett as above recorded. vote after the first vote in this series. Crist Katko Pocan Crow Keating Porter AMENDMENT NO. 6 OFFERED BY MS. WEXTON b 1030 Cuellar Kelly (IL) Pressley The Acting CHAIR. The unfinished Cummings Kelly (PA) Price (NC) AMENDMENT NO. 4 OFFERED BY MR. DELGADO Cunningham Kennedy Quigley business is the demand for a recorded The Acting CHAIR. The unfinished Curtis Khanna Raskin vote on the amendment offered by the business is the demand for a recorded Davids (KS) Kildee Reed gentlewoman from Virginia (Ms. Davidson (OH) Kilmer Reschenthaler vote on the amendment offered by the Davis (CA) Kim Richmond WEXTON) on which further proceedings gentleman from New York (Mr. Davis, Danny K. Kind Riggleman were postponed and on which the ayes DELGADO) on which further proceedings Dean King (IA) Roby prevailed by voice vote. DeFazio King (NY) Rodgers (WA) The Clerk will redesignate the were postponed and on which the ayes DeGette Kinzinger Roe, David P. prevailed by voice vote. DeLauro Kirkpatrick Rogers (AL) amendment. The Clerk will redesignate the DelBene Krishnamoorthi Rogers (KY) The Clerk redesignated the amend- amendment. Delgado Kuster (NH) Rose (NY) ment. Demings Kustoff (TN) Rose, John W. The Clerk redesignated the amend- DeSaulnier LaHood Rouda RECORDED VOTE ment. Deutch Lamb Rouzer The Acting CHAIR. A recorded vote RECORDED VOTE Diaz-Balart Langevin Roybal-Allard has been demanded. Dingell Larsen (WA) Ruiz The Acting CHAIR. A recorded vote Doggett Larson (CT) Ruppersberger A recorded vote was ordered. has been demanded. Doyle, Michael Latta Rush The Acting CHAIR. This will be a 2- A recorded vote was ordered. F. Lawrence Sablan minute vote. The vote was taken by electronic de- Duffy Lawson (FL) San Nicolas The vote was taken by electronic de- Dunn Lee (CA) Sarbanes vice, and there were—ayes 363, noes 60, Engel Lee (NV) Scalise vice, and there were—ayes 376, noes 46, not voting 14, as follows: Escobar Levin (CA) Scanlon not voting 15, as follows:

VerDate Sep 11 2014 01:43 Apr 11, 2019 Jkt 089060 PO 00000 Frm 00013 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10AP7.028 H10APPT1 H3236 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 10, 2019 [Roll No. 164] Rogers (KY) Smith (MO) Trahan [Roll No. 165] Rose (NY) Smith (NE) Trone AYES—423 AYES—376 Rose, John W. Smith (NJ) Turner Rouda Smith (WA) Adams DeGette Johnson (OH) Adams Doyle, Michael Kuster (NH) Underwood Rouzer Smucker Aderholt DeLauro Johnson (SD) Aderholt F. Kustoff (TN) Upton Roybal-Allard Soto Aguilar DelBene Johnson (TX) Aguilar Duffy LaHood Van Drew Ruiz Spanberger Allen Delgado Jordan Allen Engel LaMalfa Vargas Ruppersberger Spano Allred Demings Joyce (OH) Allred Escobar Lamb Veasey Rush Speier Amash DeSaulnier Joyce (PA) Amash Eshoo Larsen (WA) Vela Sablan Stanton Vela´ zquez Armstrong DesJarlais Kaptur Armstrong Espaillat Larson (CT) San Nicolas Stauber Arrington Deutch Visclosky Katko Arrington Evans Latta Sarbanes Stefanik Axne Diaz-Balart Keating Wagner Axne Ferguson Lawrence Scalise Steil Bacon Dingell Kelly (IL) Walberg Bacon Finkenauer Lawson (FL) Scanlon Stevens Baird Doggett Kelly (MS) Walden Baird Fitzpatrick Lee (CA) Schakowsky Stewart Balderson Doyle, Michael Kelly (PA) Walorski Balderson Fleischmann Lee (NV) Schiff Stivers Banks F. Kennedy Barraga´ n Fletcher Levin (CA) Schneider Suozzi Waltz Barr Duffy Khanna Bass Flores Levin (MI) Schrader Swalwell (CA) Wasserman Barraga´ n Duncan Kildee Beatty Fortenberry Lewis Schrier Takano Schultz Bass Dunn Kilmer Bera Foster Lieu, Ted Scott (VA) Taylor Waters Beatty Emmer Kim Bergman Foxx (NC) Lipinski Scott, Austin Thompson (CA) Watkins Bera Engel Kind Beyer Frankel Loebsack Scott, David Thompson (MS) Watson Coleman Bergman Escobar King (IA) Bilirakis Fudge Lofgren Sensenbrenner Thompson (PA) Wenstrup Beyer Eshoo King (NY) Bishop (GA) Fulcher Lowenthal Serrano Thornberry Wexton Biggs Espaillat Kinzinger Blumenauer Gabbard Lowey Sewell (AL) Timmons Wild Bilirakis Estes Kirkpatrick Blunt Rochester Gallagher Lucas Shalala Tipton Wilson (FL) Bishop (GA) Evans Krishnamoorthi Bonamici Gallego Luetkemeyer Sherman Titus Wilson (SC) Blumenauer Ferguson Kuster (NH) Bost Garamendi Luja´ n Sherrill Tlaib Wittman Blunt Rochester Finkenauer Kustoff (TN) Boyle, Brendan Garcı´a (IL) Luria Shimkus Tonko Womack Bonamici Fitzpatrick LaHood F. Garcia (TX) Lynch Simpson Torres (CA) Woodall Bost Fleischmann LaMalfa Brady Gianforte Malinowski Sires Torres Small Young Boyle, Brendan Fletcher Lamb Brindisi Gibbs Maloney, Slotkin (NM) Zeldin F. Flores Lamborn Brooks (IN) Golden Carolyn B. Brady Fortenberry Langevin Brown (MD) Gomez Maloney, Sean NOES—46 Brindisi Foster Larsen (WA) Gonzalez (OH) Marchant Brownley (CA) Banks Gaetz Mooney (WV) Brooks (AL) Foxx (NC) Larson (CT) Gonzalez (TX) Marshall Buchanan Barr Gohmert Norman Brooks (IN) Frankel Latta Gonza´ lez-Colo´ n Matsui Bucshon Biggs Gosar Posey Brown (MD) Fudge Lawrence (PR) McAdams Burgess Bishop (UT) Graves (GA) Brownley (CA) Fulcher Lawson (FL) Gooden McBath Rice (SC) Bustos Brooks (AL) Grothman Buchanan Gabbard Lee (CA) Gottheimer McCarthy Roy Butterfield Buck Harris Buck Gaetz Lee (NV) Granger McCaul Rutherford Byrne Budd Hern, Kevin Bucshon Gallagher Lesko Graves (LA) McClintock Schweikert Calvert Burchett Jordan Budd Gallego Levin (CA) Graves (MO) McCollum Steube Carbajal Chabot Kelly (MS) Burchett Garamendi Levin (MI) Green (TN) McGovern Walker Ca´ rdenas Cline Lamborn Burgess Garcı´a (IL) Lewis Green (TX) McKinley Webster (FL) Carson (IN) Conaway Lesko Bustos Garcia (TX) Lieu, Ted Griffith McNerney Westerman Carter (GA) DesJarlais Long Butterfield Gianforte Lipinski Grijalva Meadows Carter (TX) Duncan Loudermilk Williams Byrne Gibbs Loebsack Guest Meeks Cartwright Dunn Massie Wright Calvert Gohmert Lofgren Guthrie Meng Case Emmer Mast Yoho Carbajal Golden Long Haaland Meuser Casten (IL) Estes McHenry Ca´ rdenas Gomez Loudermilk Hagedorn Miller Castor (FL) Carson (IN) Gonzalez (OH) Lowenthal Harder (CA) Mitchell Castro (TX) NOT VOTING—15 Carter (GA) Gonzalez (TX) Lowey Hartzler Moolenaar Cheney Abraham McEachin Ryan Carter (TX) Gonza´ lez-Colo´ n Lucas Hastings Moore Chu, Judy Amodei Olson Sa´ nchez Cartwright (PR) Luetkemeyer Hayes Morelle Cicilline Babin Radewagen Weber (TX) Case Gooden Luja´ n Heck Moulton Cisneros Cooper Rice (NY) Welch Casten (IL) Gosar Luria Herrera Beutler Mucarsel-Powell Clark (MA) Langevin Rooney (FL) Yarmuth Castor (FL) Gottheimer Lynch Hice (GA) Mullin Clarke (NY) Castro (TX) Granger Malinowski Higgins (LA) Murphy Clay Chabot Graves (GA) Maloney, Higgins (NY) Nadler Cleaver b 1102 Cheney Graves (LA) Carolyn B. Hill (AR) Napolitano Chu, Judy Graves (MO) Maloney, Sean Cloud Hill (CA) Neal Clyburn Mr. FERGUSON changed his vote Cicilline Green (TN) Marchant Himes Neguse from ‘‘no’’ to ‘‘aye.’’ Cisneros Green (TX) Marshall Cohen Holding Newhouse Cole So the amendment was agreed to. Clark (MA) Griffith Massie Hollingsworth Norcross Clarke (NY) Grijalva Mast Collins (GA) Horn, Kendra S. Norton The result of the vote was announced Collins (NY) Clay Grothman Matsui Horsford Nunes as above recorded. Cleaver Guest McAdams Comer Houlahan O’Halleran Connolly Stated for: Cline Guthrie McBath Hoyer Ocasio-Cortez Cloud Haaland McCarthy Cook Hudson Omar Mr. LANGEVIN. Mr. Chair, I was unavoid- Correa Clyburn Hagedorn McCaul Huffman Palazzo ably detained. Had I been present, I would Cohen Harder (CA) McClintock Costa Huizenga Pallone Cole Harris McCollum Courtney have voted ‘‘yea’’ on rollcall No. 164. Hunter Palmer Collins (GA) Hartzler McGovern Cox (CA) Hurd (TX) Panetta AMENDMENT NO. 12 OFFERED BY MR. MCADAMS Collins (NY) Hastings McHenry Craig Jackson Lee Pappas The Acting CHAIR. The unfinished Comer Hayes McKinley Crawford Jayapal Pascrell Conaway Heck McNerney Crenshaw business is the demand for a recorded Jeffries Payne Connolly Hern, Kevin Meadows Crist Johnson (GA) Pence vote on the amendment offered by the Cook Herrera Beutler Meeks Crow Johnson (LA) Perlmutter gentleman from Utah (Mr. MCADAMS) Cooper Hice (GA) Meng Cuellar Johnson (OH) Perry on which further proceedings were Correa Higgins (LA) Meuser Cummings Johnson (SD) Peters postponed and on which the ayes pre- Costa Higgins (NY) Miller Cunningham Johnson (TX) Peterson Courtney Hill (AR) Mitchell Curtis Joyce (OH) Phillips vailed by voice vote. Cox (CA) Hill (CA) Moolenaar Davids (KS) Joyce (PA) Pingree The Clerk will redesignate the Craig Himes Mooney (WV) Davidson (OH) Kaptur Plaskett amendment. Crawford Holding Moore Davis (CA) Katko Pocan Crenshaw Hollingsworth Morelle Davis, Danny K. Keating Porter The Clerk redesignated the amend- Crist Horn, Kendra S. Moulton Davis, Rodney Kelly (IL) Pressley ment. Crow Horsford Mucarsel-Powell Dean Kelly (PA) Price (NC) RECORDED VOTE Cuellar Houlahan Mullin DeFazio Kennedy Quigley Cummings Hoyer Murphy DeGette Khanna Raskin The Acting CHAIR. A recorded vote Cunningham Hudson Nadler DeLauro Kildee Ratcliffe has been demanded. Curtis Huffman Napolitano DelBene Kilmer Reed A recorded vote was ordered. Davids (KS) Huizenga Neal Delgado Kim Reschenthaler Davidson (OH) Hunter Neguse Demings Kind Richmond The Acting CHAIR. This will be a 2- Davis (CA) Jackson Lee Newhouse DeSaulnier King (IA) Riggleman minute vote. Davis, Danny K. Jayapal Norcross Deutch King (NY) Roby The vote was taken by electronic de- Davis, Rodney Jeffries Norman Diaz-Balart Kinzinger Rodgers (WA) vice, and there were—ayes 423, noes 0, Dean Johnson (GA) Norton Dingell Kirkpatrick Roe, David P. DeFazio Johnson (LA) Nunes Doggett Krishnamoorthi Rogers (AL) not voting 14, as follows:

VerDate Sep 11 2014 01:43 Apr 11, 2019 Jkt 089060 PO 00000 Frm 00014 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A10AP7.011 H10APPT1 April 10, 2019 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H3237 O’Halleran Sablan Thornberry The SPEAKER pro tempore. The What is clear is that the Democrats Ocasio-Cortez San Nicolas Timmons Omar Sarbanes Tipton question is on the engrossment and want a government takeover of the Palazzo Scalise Titus third reading of the bill. internet. They want to open up the Pallone Scanlon Tlaib The bill was ordered to be engrossed floodgates to a Federal, State, and Palmer Schakowsky Tonko and read a third time, and was read the local cash grab through taxation and Panetta Schiff Torres (CA) Pappas Schneider Torres Small third time. fees that could be put on by local gov- Pascrell Schrader (NM) MOTION TO RECOMMIT ernments, State governments, and even Payne Schrier Trahan Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Speaker, I have a the Federal Government. Pence Schweikert Trone Now, they will argue: Oh, no, there is Perlmutter Scott (VA) Turner motion to recommit and it is at the Perry Scott, Austin Underwood desk. nothing in the underlying bill, no, no, Peters Scott, David Upton The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is the no. It does not touch the Internet Tax Peterson Sensenbrenner Van Drew Freedom Act. Phillips Serrano Vargas gentleman opposed to the bill? Pingree Sewell (AL) Veasey Mr. WALDEN. Oh, my gosh, Mr. That might be true. It doesn’t have Plaskett Shalala Vela Speaker, in its current form, yes. to because the underlying bill opens Pocan Sherman Vela´ zquez The SPEAKER pro tempore. The the floodgates to section 201 and sec- Porter Sherrill Visclosky tion 202 and other provisions that Posey Shimkus Wagner Clerk will report the motion to recom- Pressley Simpson Walberg mit. would allow local, State, and Federal Price (NC) Sires Walden The Clerk read as follows: governments to tax the internet. They Quigley Slotkin Walker Mr. Walden moves to recommit the bill can’t do that today. Raskin Smith (MO) Walorski Ratcliffe Smith (NE) Waltz H.R. 1644 to the Committee on Energy and So, again, your vote is pretty simple: Reed Smith (NJ) Wasserman Commerce with instructions to report the tax the internet or don’t tax the inter- Reschenthaler Smith (WA) Schultz same back to the House forthwith with the net. Rice (SC) Smucker Waters following amendment: Once you classify internet services Richmond Soto Watkins Add at the end the following: Riggleman Spanberger Watson Coleman under the utility-style services, tax ad- SEC. 4. RULE OF CONSTRUCTION REGARDING Roby Spano Webster (FL) ministrators are going to do what they INTERNET TAX FREEDOM ACT. Rodgers (WA) Speier Wenstrup do best, and that is find a way to Roe, David P. Stauber Westerman Nothing in this Act shall be construed to Rogers (AL) Stefanik Wexton modify, impair, supersede, or authorize the charge fees and taxes on this category Rogers (KY) Steil Wild modification, impairment, or supersession of since they understand how to get milk Rose (NY) Steube Williams the Internet Tax Freedom Act (47 U.S.C. 151 from every cow that walks by. Guess Rose, John W. Stevens Wilson (FL) note). who is getting milked. It is the con- Rouda Stewart Wilson (SC) Rouzer Stivers Wittman The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- sumers. Roy Suozzi Womack tleman from Oregon is recognized for 5 So if you have any doubt, Mr. Speak- Roybal-Allard Swalwell (CA) Woodall minutes. er, just check your monthly phone bill. Ruiz Takano Wright Your internet subscription is the new Ruppersberger Taylor Yarmuth b 1115 Rush Thompson (CA) Yoho target. We are seeing all kinds of Rutherford Thompson (MS) Young Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Speaker, this things in this bill. They are doubling, Ryan Thompson (PA) Zeldin amendment is actually pretty simple, potentially, use of fees for the use of NOT VOTING—14 and Members have a clear choice today some facilities and poles, even altru- Abraham McEachin Sa´ nchez on the floor: Are you for taxing the istic-sounding ones on telecommuni- Amodei Olson Stanton internet or not? That is the question. cations relay services and 911. Babin Radewagen Weber (TX) As we have discussed at the Energy But guess what. Just ask New York Bishop (UT) Rice (NY) Welch and Commerce Committee and again Hurd (TX) Rooney (FL) residents how much of their monthly on the House floor today, Mr. Speaker, 911 charges are being diverted from b 1110 no one fully understands the implica- their 911 call centers. According to the So the amendment was agreed to. tions of the underlying legislation. In Federal Communications Commission’s The result of the vote was announced fact, we have adopted amendments 10th annual report to Congress on how as above recorded. that the sponsor indicates aren’t really States collect and use 911 fees, a stag- The Acting CHAIR (Ms. ESCOBAR). necessary but do reinforce what is al- gering 90.35 percent of the money New The question is on the amendment in ready in the bill. The scope of what it Yorkers pay for 911 services gets di- the nature of a substitute, as amended. entails is still unclear, however, and verted. For my friends in New Jersey, The amendment was agreed to. the impact it could have on consumers 77.26 percent gets diverted. The Acting CHAIR. Under the rule, is still uncertain. So these tax collectors know how to the Committee rises. Now, Democrats claim their bill per- tax; they just haven’t had the oppor- Accordingly, the Committee rose; manently forbears from many of the tunity to tax the internet, but they and the Speaker pro tempore (Mr. heavy-handed regulations that the Fed- may well get it under this bill if it NEGUSE) having assumed the chair, Ms. eral Communications Commission were to become law. ESCOBAR, Acting Chair of the Com- could impose through this government So, Mr. Speaker, this is pretty sim- mittee of the Whole House on the state takeover of the internet. It is impor- ple. Republicans want to close the door of the Union, reported that that Com- tant to note that nothing in the under- on taxation of the internet. Will Demo- mittee, having had under consideration lying bill would prevent the Federal crats join us or not? the bill (H.R. 1644) to restore the open Communications Commission from im- If you vote for the motion to recom- internet order of the Federal Commu- posing similar regulations in the future mit, Mr. Speaker, you vote to close the nications Commission, and, pursuant or through other provisions in statute. tax and freedom door. A ‘‘no’’ vote to House Resolution 294, she reported Now, my colleagues never could leaves that door wide open for taxation the bill back to the House with an produce the list of 700 forbearances of the internet. amendment adopted in the Committee they claim the FCC engaged in that Do you want your consumers to pay of the Whole. they are going to lock in statute today. higher bills every month for their The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under That is what you are voting on, among internet service or not? the rule, the previous question is or- other things. We never could get that Say ‘‘no’’ to higher taxes and fees dered. list of 700 forbearances. and ‘‘yes’’ to this amendment to pro- Is a separate vote demanded on any We have offered amendments in the tect those who actually pay the bill. amendment to the amendment re- committee and in the Rules Committee Mr. Speaker, I yield back balance of ported from the Committee of the to ensure that consumers are protected my time. Whole? and to ensure that the Democrats’ Mr. MICHAEL F. DOYLE of Pennsyl- If not, the question is on the amend- rhetoric about their bill actually vania. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition ment in the nature of a substitute, as matches the substance. These amend- to the motion to recommit. amended. ments were all rejected on party-line The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- The amendment was agreed to. votes in committee. tleman is recognized for 5 minutes.

VerDate Sep 11 2014 02:14 Apr 11, 2019 Jkt 089060 PO 00000 Frm 00015 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A10AP7.012 H10APPT1 H3238 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 10, 2019 Mr. MICHAEL F. DOYLE of Pennsyl- where you stand on net neutrality and Rouzer Spano Walden Roy Stauber Walker vania. Mr. Speaker, colleagues, pay whether you believe that the FCC Rutherford Stefanik Walorski close attention this. This proposal is should protect consumers. This is your Scalise Steil Waltz completely unnecessary. Let me tell chance to be on the right side of his- Schrader Steube Watkins you why. tory, on the side of the angels, and on Schweikert Stewart Webster (FL) Scott, Austin Stivers Wenstrup The bill simply restores the 2015 Open the side of the American people. Sensenbrenner Taylor Westerman Internet Order that the FCC adopted Let’s defeat this motion to recommit Sherrill Thompson (PA) Williams and was upheld by the courts. Nothing and pass this bill. Shimkus Thornberry Wilson (SC) in that order could or did give the FCC Simpson Timmons Wittman Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance Slotkin Tipton Womack the authority to modify, impair, or su- of my time. Smith (MO) Turner Woodall persede Federal law. To the contrary, The SPEAKER pro tempore. Mem- Smith (NE) Upton Wright the order said specifically that it did bers are reminded to address their re- Smith (NJ) Van Drew Yoho not impose new taxes or impact the Smucker Wagner Young marks to the Chair. Spanberger Walberg Zeldin Internet Tax Freedom Act. Without objection, the previous ques- The Internet Tax Freedom Act is tion is ordered on the motion to recom- NOES—216 Federal law. Nothing in this order al- mit. Adams Garcia (TX) Norcross lows the FCC to modify, impair, or su- There was no objection. Aguilar Gomez O’Halleran persede Federal law. Allred Gonzalez (TX) Ocasio-Cortez The SPEAKER pro tempore. The ´ This is a complete nonissue, nothing Barragan Green (TX) Omar question is on the motion to recommit. Bass Grijalva Pallone you need to be worried about; and, The question was taken; and the Beatty Haaland Panetta frankly, it is just a last-ditch effort to Bera Harder (CA) Pappas Speaker pro tempore announced that delay and confuse people on net neu- Beyer Hastings Pascrell the noes appeared to have it. Bishop (GA) Hayes Payne trality. Blumenauer Heck RECORDED VOTE Perlmutter Now, let’s get down to what this bill Blunt Rochester Higgins (NY) Peters really does. What this bill does, basi- Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Speaker, I demand Bonamici Hill (CA) Peterson cally, is three things: a recorded vote. Boyle, Brendan Himes Phillips First, the three we all agree on: no A recorded vote was ordered. F. Horsford Pingree Brown (MD) Houlahan Pocan blocking, no throttling, and no paid The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- Brownley (CA) Hoyer Porter prioritization. Republicans and Demo- ant to clause 9 of rule XX, the Chair Bustos Jackson Lee Pressley crats say we all agree with that. will reduce to 5 minutes the minimum Butterfield Jayapal Price (NC) But, colleagues, that is not the end of Carbajal Jeffries Quigley time for any electronic vote on the Ca´ rdenas Johnson (GA) the ball game, because we have already Raskin question of passage. Carson (IN) Johnson (TX) Richmond seen discriminatory practices by ISPs This is a 5-minute vote. Cartwright Kaptur Rose (NY) that aren’t covered by blocking, throt- The vote was taken by electronic de- Case Keating Rouda Casten (IL) Kelly (IL) Roybal-Allard tling, and paid prioritization. vice, and there were—ayes 204, noes 216, Castor (FL) Kennedy What my friends over here are saying Ruiz not voting 11, as follows: Castro (TX) Khanna Ruppersberger is, sure, the three things we caught [Roll No. 166] Chu, Judy Kildee Rush them red-handed on that they have al- Cicilline Kilmer AYES—204 Ryan ready pled guilty to, we are not going Cisneros Kim Sarbanes Aderholt Duncan Katko Clark (MA) Kind Scanlon to allow that anymore, but any new Clarke (NY) Kirkpatrick Allen Dunn Kelly (MS) Schakowsky Clay Krishnamoorthi discriminatory behavior, any new un- Amash Emmer Kelly (PA) Schiff Cleaver Kuster (NH) just or unreasonable behavior, we don’t Armstrong Estes King (IA) Schneider Clyburn Lamb Arrington Ferguson King (NY) Schrier want a cop on the beat to police that. Cohen Langevin Axne Fitzpatrick Kinzinger Scott (VA) Connolly Larsen (WA) We don’t want to be able to give con- Bacon Fleischmann Kustoff (TN) Scott, David Cooper Larson (CT) sumers the right to go to the FCC and Baird Flores LaHood Serrano Correa Lawrence Balderson Fortenberry LaMalfa Sewell (AL) get relief from that. It is like locking Costa Lawson (FL) Banks Foxx (NC) Lamborn Shalala the front door and leaving the back- Courtney Lee (CA) Barr Fulcher Latta Sherman Cox (CA) Lee (NV) door wide open. Bergman Gaetz Lesko Sires Now, let’s talk about another thing, Biggs Gallagher Long Crist Levin (CA) Crow Levin (MI) Smith (WA) too. Bilirakis Gianforte Loudermilk Soto Bishop (UT) Gibbs Lucas Cuellar Lewis Two years ago, the Trump FCC re- Cummings Lieu, Ted Speier Bost Gohmert Luetkemeyer Stanton pealed the Open Internet Order. What Brady Golden Marchant Davids (KS) Lipinski Davis (CA) Loebsack Stevens did it replace it with? Nothing. Nada. Brindisi Gonzalez (OH) Marshall Suozzi Brooks (AL) Gooden Massie Davis, Danny K. Lofgren Zip. Crickets. They did nothing. It is Dean Lowenthal Swalwell (CA) Brooks (IN) Gosar Mast Takano the Wild, Wild West. Let the ISPs do Buchanan Gottheimer McCarthy DeFazio Lowey anything they want and consumers be DeGette Luja´ n Thompson (CA) Buck Granger McCaul Thompson (MS) damned. That is what they did. Bucshon Graves (GA) McClintock DeLauro Luria DelBene Lynch Titus For 2 years, they could have brought Budd Graves (LA) McHenry Tlaib Burchett Graves (MO) McKinley Demings Malinowski their so-called version of light-touch DeSaulnier Maloney, Tonko Burgess Green (TN) Meadows Torres (CA) net neutrality to the body. They con- Byrne Griffith Deutch Carolyn B. Meuser Torres Small Calvert Grothman Dingell Maloney, Sean trolled the House. They controlled the Miller (NM) Carter (GA) Guest Mitchell Doggett Matsui Senate. They got a Republican Presi- Trahan Carter (TX) Guthrie Moolenaar Doyle, Michael McAdams Trone dent. They did nothing because they Chabot Hagedorn Mooney (WV) F. McBath Underwood Cheney Harris Mullin Engel McCollum don’t believe in net neutrality, and Vargas Cline Hartzler Newhouse Escobar McGovern they don’t believe in protecting con- Veasey Cloud Hern, Kevin Norman Eshoo McNerney Vela sumers. Cole Herrera Beutler Nunes Espaillat Meeks Vela´ zquez Well, I have got news for my friends Collins (GA) Hice (GA) Palazzo Evans Meng Visclosky on this side of the aisle: You are not in Collins (NY) Higgins (LA) Palmer Finkenauer Moore Wasserman Comer Hill (AR) Pence Fletcher Morelle charge here anymore. This is a new Schultz Conaway Holding Perry Foster Moulton Waters day. We didn’t come to Washington, Cook Hollingsworth Posey Frankel Mucarsel-Powell D.C., to represent companies. We came Craig Horn, Kendra S. Ratcliffe Fudge Murphy Watson Coleman Crawford Hudson Reed Gabbard Nadler Wexton here to represent the American people. Gallego Napolitano Wild May I tell my colleagues, whether Crenshaw Huizenga Reschenthaler Cunningham Hunter Rice (SC) Garamendi Neal Wilson (FL) ´ they are Republicans, Democrats, or Curtis Hurd (TX) Riggleman Garcıa (IL) Neguse Yarmuth Independents, 86 percent of the Amer- Davidson (OH) Johnson (LA) Roby NOT VOTING—11 ican people say they want these rules Davis, Rodney Johnson (OH) Rodgers (WA) restored. Delgado Johnson (SD) Roe, David P. Abraham McEachin Sa´ nchez DesJarlais Jordan Rogers (AL) Amodei Olson Weber (TX) Colleagues, this is your first and only Diaz-Balart Joyce (OH) Rogers (KY) Babin Rice (NY) Welch chance to tell the American people Duffy Joyce (PA) Rose, John W. Huffman Rooney (FL)

VerDate Sep 11 2014 01:43 Apr 11, 2019 Jkt 089060 PO 00000 Frm 00016 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10AP7.038 H10APPT1 April 10, 2019 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H3239 b 1130 Tonko Vargas Watson Coleman 157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 162, 163, 164, 165, Torres (CA) Veasey Wexton 166, and 167. I would include in the RECORD So the motion to recommit was re- Torres Small Vela Wild jected. (NM) Vela´ zquez Wilson (FL) how I would have voted on each had I been Trahan Visclosky The result of the vote was announced Yarmuth present. Trone Wasserman rollcall 157: ‘‘Aye’’, rollcall 158: ‘‘Aye’’, roll- as above recorded. Underwood Schultz call 159: ‘‘Aye’’, rollcall 160: ‘‘Aye’’, rollcall The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Van Drew Waters 161: ‘‘Aye’’, rollcall 162: ‘‘Aye’’, rollcall 163: question is on the passage of the bill. NAYS—190 ‘‘Aye’’, rollcall 164: ‘‘Aye’’, rollcall 165: ‘‘Aye’’, The question was taken; and the Aderholt Gosar Nunes rollcall 166: ‘‘Nay’’, and rollcall 167: ‘‘Aye’’. Speaker pro tempore announced that Allen Granger Palazzo the ayes appeared to have it. Amash Graves (GA) Palmer f Armstrong Graves (LA) Pence Mr. WALDEN. Mr. Speaker, on that I Arrington Graves (MO) Perry MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT demand the yeas and nays. Bacon Green (TN) Ratcliffe A message in writing from the Presi- The yeas and nays were ordered. Baird Griffith Reed Balderson Grothman Reschenthaler dent of the United States was commu- The SPEAKER pro tempore. This Banks Guest Rice (SC) nicated to the House by Mr. Brian will be a 5-minute vote. Barr Guthrie Riggleman Pate, one of his secretaries. Bergman Hagedorn Roby The vote was taken by electronic de- Biggs Harris f Rodgers (WA) vice, and there were—yeas 232, nays Bilirakis Hartzler Roe, David P. Bishop (UT) Hern, Kevin REQUEST TO CONSIDER H.R. 962, 190, not voting 10, as follows: Rogers (AL) Bost Herrera Beutler BORN-ALIVE ABORTION SUR- [Roll No. 167] Brady Hice (GA) Rogers (KY) Rose, John W. VIVORS PROTECTION ACT YEAS—232 Brooks (AL) Higgins (LA) Brooks (IN) Hill (AR) Rouzer Mr. HARRIS. Mr. Speaker, I ask Adams Foster McGovern Buchanan Holding Roy unanimous consent that the Com- Aguilar Frankel McNerney Buck Hollingsworth Rutherford Allred Fudge Meeks Bucshon Hudson Scalise mittee on the Judiciary be discharged Axne Gabbard Meng Budd Huizenga Schweikert from further consideration of H.R. 962, Barraga´ n Gallego Moore Burchett Hunter Scott, Austin the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Pro- Bass Garamendi Morelle Burgess Hurd (TX) Sensenbrenner tection Act, and ask for its immediate Beatty Garcı´a (IL) Moulton Byrne Johnson (LA) Shimkus Bera Garcia (TX) Mucarsel-Powell Calvert Johnson (OH) Simpson consideration in the House. Beyer Golden Murphy Carter (GA) Johnson (SD) Smith (MO) The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under Bishop (GA) Gomez Nadler Carter (TX) Jordan Smith (NE) Blumenauer Gonzalez (TX) Napolitano guidelines consistently issued by suc- Chabot Joyce (OH) Smith (NJ) cessive Speakers, as recorded in sec- Blunt Rochester Gottheimer Neal Cheney Joyce (PA) Smucker Bonamici Green (TX) Neguse Cline Katko Spano tion 956 of the House Rules and Man- Boyle, Brendan Grijalva Norcross Cloud Kelly (MS) Stauber ual, the Chair is constrained not to en- F. Haaland O’Halleran Cole Kelly (PA) Stefanik Brindisi Harder (CA) Ocasio-Cortez tertain the request unless it has been Collins (GA) King (IA) Steil Brown (MD) Hastings Omar cleared by the bipartisan floor and Collins (NY) King (NY) Steube Brownley (CA) Hayes Pallone Comer Kinzinger Stewart committee leaderships. Bustos Heck Panetta Conaway Kustoff (TN) Stivers Butterfield Higgins (NY) Pappas Mr. HARRIS. Mr. Speaker, I urge the Cook LaHood Taylor Carbajal Hill (CA) Pascrell Crawford LaMalfa Speaker to immediately schedule this Ca´ rdenas Himes Payne Thompson (PA) important bill to save the lives of these Crenshaw Lamborn Thornberry Carson (IN) Horn, Kendra S. Pelosi Curtis Latta babies who are born alive after an abor- Cartwright Horsford Perlmutter Timmons Davidson (OH) Lesko Tipton tion attempt. This bill is exceedingly Case Houlahan Peters Davis, Rodney Long Turner Casten (IL) Hoyer Peterson DesJarlais Loudermilk important and should be brought to the Upton Castor (FL) Huffman Phillips Diaz-Balart Lucas floor. Wagner Castro (TX) Jackson Lee Pingree Duffy Luetkemeyer Walberg The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- Chu, Judy Jayapal Pocan Duncan Marchant Walden Cicilline Jeffries Porter Dunn Marshall tleman is not recognized for debate. Cisneros Johnson (GA) Posey Emmer Massie Walker f Clark (MA) Johnson (TX) Pressley Estes Mast Walorski Clarke (NY) Kaptur Price (NC) Ferguson McCarthy Waltz ADJOURNMENT FROM WEDNES- Clay Keating Quigley Fitzpatrick McCaul Watkins DAY, APRIL 10, 2019, TO FRIDAY, Cleaver Kelly (IL) Raskin Webster (FL) Fleischmann McClintock APRIL 12, 2019 Clyburn Kennedy Richmond Flores McHenry Wenstrup Cohen Khanna Rose (NY) Fortenberry McKinley Westerman Ms. GARCIA of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I Connolly Kildee Rouda Foxx (NC) Meadows Williams ask unanimous consent that when the Cooper Kilmer Roybal-Allard Fulcher Meuser Wilson (SC) Correa Kim Ruiz Gaetz Miller Wittman House adjourns today, it adjourn to Costa Kind Ruppersberger Gallagher Mitchell Womack meet at 2:30 p.m. on Friday, April 12, Courtney Kirkpatrick Rush Gianforte Moolenaar Woodall 2019. Cox (CA) Krishnamoorthi Ryan Gibbs Mooney (WV) Wright Craig Kuster (NH) Sarbanes Gohmert Mullin Yoho The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Crist Lamb Scanlon Gonzalez (OH) Newhouse Young ESPAILLAT). Is there objection to the Crow Langevin Schakowsky Gooden Norman Zeldin request of the gentlewoman from Cuellar Larsen (WA) Schiff Cummings Larson (CT) Schneider NOT VOTING—10 Texas? Cunningham Lawrence Schrader Abraham Olson Weber (TX) There was no objection. Davids (KS) Lawson (FL) Schrier Amodei Rice (NY) Welch f Davis (CA) Lee (CA) Scott (VA) Babin Rooney (FL) Davis, Danny K. Lee (NV) Scott, David McEachin Sa´ nchez THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION’S Dean Levin (CA) Serrano ATTACKS ON THE AFFORDABLE DeFazio Levin (MI) Sewell (AL) b 1144 DeGette Lewis Shalala CARE ACT DeLauro Lieu, Ted Sherman So the bill was passed. DelBene Lipinski Sherrill The result of the vote was announced (Ms. GARCIA of Texas asked and was Delgado Loebsack Sires as above recorded. given permission to address the House Demings Lofgren Slotkin A motion to reconsider was laid on for 1 minute.) DeSaulnier Lowenthal Smith (WA) Ms. GARCIA of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I Deutch Lowey Soto the table. Dingell Luja´ n Spanberger Stated for: rise today to condemn the Trump ad- Doggett Luria Speier PERSONAL EXPLANATION ministration’s new attacks on the Af- Doyle, Michael Lynch Stanton Miss RICE of New York. Mr. Speaker, I re- fordable Care Act. F. Malinowski Stevens Engel Maloney, Suozzi grettably missed the following vote. Had I Over 4.5 million non-elderly Texans Escobar Carolyn B. Swalwell (CA) been present, I would have voted ‘‘yea’’ on have preexisting conditions that could Eshoo Maloney, Sean Takano rollcall No. 167. keep them from getting insurance if Espaillat Matsui Thompson (CA) PERSONAL EXPLANATION the administration gets its wishes in Evans McAdams Thompson (MS) Finkenauer McBath Titus Mr. WELCH. Mr. Speaker, due to a family Federal court. This is truly out- Fletcher McCollum Tlaib emergency, I was unable to vote on Roll Call rageous.

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