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Vol. 765 Thursday No. 54 22 October 2015 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES (HANSARD) HOUSE OF LORDS OFFICIAL REPORT ORDER OF BUSINESS Introductions: Lord O’Shaughnessy and Baroness Stroud ............................................777 Questions HS2 ................................................................................................................................777 House of Lords: Appointments...................................................................................779 Financial Services: Competition ...................................................................................781 Syria and Iraq: Airspace..............................................................................................783 Enterprise Bill [HL] Order of Consideration Motion ....................................................................................786 Private Ownership Motion to Take Note....................................................................................................786 Zhang Kai Statement........................................................................................................................812 Education and Employment Opportunities Motion to Take Note....................................................................................................815 Chilcot Inquiry Question for Short Debate............................................................................................851 Grand Committee Lyme Disease Question for Short Debate ......................................................................................GC 25 Universal Declaration on Human Rights: Article 18 Question for Short Debate ......................................................................................GC 40 Armed Forces: Reserves Question for Short Debate ......................................................................................GC 56 Palliative Care Question for Short Debate ......................................................................................GC 72 Nuclear Technology Question for Short Debate ......................................................................................GC 86 £4·00 Lords wishing to be supplied with these Daily Reports should give notice to this effect to the Printed Paper Office. 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The first time a Member speaks to a new piece of parliamentary business, the following abbreviations are used to show their party affiliation: Abbreviation Party/Group CB Cross Bench Con Conservative DUP Democratic Unionist Party GP Green Party Ind Lab Independent Labour Ind LD Independent Liberal Democrat Ind SD Independent Social Democrat Ind UU Independent Ulster Unionist Lab Labour LD Liberal Democrat LD Ind Liberal Democrat Independent Non-afl Non-affiliated PC Plaid Cymru UKIP UK Independence Party UUP Ulster Unionist Party No party affiliation is given for Members serving the House in a formal capacity, the Lords spiritual, Members on leave of absence or Members who are otherwise disqualified from sitting in the House. © Parliamentary Copyright House of Lords 2015, this publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Open Parliament licence, which is published at www.parliament.uk/site-information/copyright/. 777 Introduction: Lord O’Shaughnessy[22 OCTOBER 2015] HS2 778 also give the potential to deliver much better train House of Lords services to large numbers of towns and cities. I am acutely aware of the challenges she has raised about Thursday, 22 October 2015. there not being enough capacity for people, but part of 11 am what HS2 will do is deliver extra capacity to places such as Coventry, Rugby and Milton Keynes. Prayers—read by the Lord Bishop of Rochester. Lord Berkeley (Lab): My Lords, I have read AP3—the Introduction: Lord O’Shaughnessy latest additional provision from HS2, which he mentioned 11.08 am to the noble Baroness—and I can see nothing in it about the effects of construction, particularly the James Richard O’Shaughnessy, Esquire, having been disruption which will be caused, around Euston and created Baron O’Shaughnessy, of Maidenhead in the many other sites up the line, by construction lorries. I Royal County of Berkshire, was introduced and took the understand that, for three years during construction, oath, supported by Lord Nash and Baroness Evans of there will be about 720 trucks a day leaving the Camden Bowes Park, and signed an undertaking to abide by the area with spoil. I declare an interest as chairman of Code of Conduct. the Rail Freight Group, but surely HS2 should look at moving as many materials as possible by rail. Introduction: Baroness Stroud Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon: The noble Lord raises 11.14 am a quite valid point. We are looking at the issue of Philippa Claire Stroud, having been created Baroness disruption from HS2. Again, there are lessons to be Stroud, of Fulham in the London Borough of Hammersmith learned from places such as London Bridge, Blackfriars, and Fulham, was introduced and took the oath, supported Reading and Birmingham and they are being applied by Lord Freud and Lord Farmer, and signed an undertaking in the development of Euston to ensure that we mitigate to abide by the Code of Conduct. whatever disruption there may be, not just to the rail and Tube networks, but to the surrounding local HS2 communities as well. Question Viscount Ridley (Con): My Lords, could my noble 11.18 am friend confirm that the economic case for HS2, as Asked by Baroness Seccombe published by HS2 Ltd in 2013, includes £8.3 billion of To ask Her Majesty’s Government what assessment benefits that are actually cuts to existing services, they have made of the effect of the construction of under the phrase “released capacity”? HS2 on the running of existing rail services. Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon: I think the economic The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department case for HS2 is well made. for Transport and Home Office (Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon) (Con): My Lords, as part of the hybrid Bill and subsequent Baroness Randerson (LD): My Lords, undoubtedly additional provisions, HS2 Ltd is required to assess the the work on Euston station will be disruptive for existing impact of the construction works on the operational passengers and, in my view, unnecessarily expensive. railway. These assessments have been undertaken and Will the Minister agree at least to investigate the are documented in the environmental statement and alternative proposals put forward by the Euston Express supplementary environmental statements. Our assessment group and to look at a more intensive use of Old Oak also includes close working with the relevant train Common, which would act as a useful route into London, operators, and we will continue to work with them to on a large scale, once Crossrail has links with it? minimise disruption throughout the development of Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon: The noble Baroness the overall project. raises the issue of Old Oak Common, which has been Baroness Seccombe (Con): My Lords, on Monday part of the consideration for HS2. Let me assure her, of this week I travelled by train from Banbury to London and indeed the whole House, that once we have completed and was dismayed to see that some people were unable the works for HS2 at Euston its capacity, as I am sure to get a seat and stood for the whole of the journey, which she is aware, will go from 18 platforms to 22. These is around 60 minutes. HS2 will cost tens of billions of enhancements will help not only with access into pounds and the cost is obviously still rising. Surely it London but also across London. would be better, and provide greater benefit to the comfort and well-being of thousands of people, if the Lord Grocott (Lab): Can the Minister confirm the money were spent instead on other lines up and down uncanny resemblance of the objections to HS2 being the country and, indeed, across the country. That voiced in this House now to the objections voiced in would mean that we could have longer trains, longer the 1830s to the building of the original London to carriages and, if necessary, longer platforms, but the Birmingham railway? Does he rejoice, as I do, that the important thing is that people should travel in comfort. objectors lost that battle eventually? I commend the Government for their persistence in building what is a Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon: My Lords, I assure my hugely important infrastructure project for Britain noble friend that, as I am sure she is aware, HS2 will be today. Will