From: on behalf of Andrew Dessler To: Andrew Revkin Subject: Re: Dessler / Spencer e-mail debate on cloud feedbacks Date: Thursday, December 30, 2010 6:20:43 PM On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Andrew Revkin < wrote: > eek. will fix now. > are they also on youtube or the like? no, they are just on my dept.'s web server. > > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Dessler <
[email protected]> wrote: >> >> FYI, the links to my videos have changed: >> http://geotest.tamu.edu/userfiles/216/CloudFeedbackLong.m4a (long >> version) or http://geotest.tamu.edu/userfiles/216/CloudFeedbackTalk.m4a >> (short version). the links you have in your post don't work. and >> thanks for your interest. >> >> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Andrew Revkin < wrote: >> > i didn't have time to get in more of this conversation but here's my >> > piece >> > on 'skeptics', peer review, antarctica and clouds. >> > >> > Skeptics" survive peer review and science actually progresses. >> > http://j.mp/AntarcCloud #agw #climate >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Roy Spencer < >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Andy: >> >> >> >> Feedbacks and forcings involve *temperature* changes, not abstract >> >> concepts like "El Nino". Thus, your question is a bit of a red >> >> herring. >> >> >> >> What I *AM* saying is that the time-evolving nature of the temperature >> >> and >> >> radiative flux anomalies is consistent with a significant, non-feedback >> >> cloud-induced temperature change. That is what the phase space >> >> analysis >> >> reveals. >> >> >> >> Now, what all of this might mean for how El Nino & La Nina evolve over >> >> time is an interesting question, I agree,...I'm just trying to make >> >> sure we >> >> don't lose sight of the quantitative evidence.