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The Classic Horror Film Board Unofficial Archives: Men Behind the Monsters 4/9/05 - 9/13/07 All posters retain their copyright. This archive is for reference and review. No photos are duplicated. Posts which do not contribute to a thread have been deleted. Duplicate subjects (ie Ray Harryhusen) combined into one topic. Topics David Allen 2-4 Ray Harryhausen 41-75 Rick Baker 5-8 Nathan Juran 76 Jerome Bixby 9 Verne Langdon 77 Rob Bottin 10-11 David Lean 78-84 Tim Burton 12- 13 Jack Pierce 85-112 William Castle 14-18 George Romero 113-116 Don Chaffey 19-21 George Robinson 117 John Chambers 22-28 HG Wells 118-119 Lon Chaney 29 Vera West 120-122 Merian C Cooper 30-32 Bud Westmore 123-148 Jim Danforth 33-35 Perc Westmore 135 Joel Fletcher 36 Ed Wood 136-148 John P. Fulton 37-38 James Whale 149 Bert I. Gordon 39-40 Karel Zeman 150-161 Gorilla Suit Mystery 162-164 Medusa Makeup (7 Faces of Dr Lao) 164 Fredric March's Dr. Hyde Makeup (Wally Westmore) 165-170 Monster Makeup 171-175 War Eagles 176-182 Worse Makeup Ever 182-186 Unofficial CHFB Archives for "Men Behind The Monsters" 2 DAVID ALLEN - also repeated for JIM DANFORTH Dr Spyclops (11/7/06 1:06 am) The Incomplete Works of Jim Danforth and David Allen -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sadly, both of these great stop-motion artists seem to have created works that we'll never get to see. On imdb.com, there's a description for an unreleased Danforth film from 1985 that sounds fascinating called Zoo Ship... "A spaceship carrying specimens from all over the universe--a sort of alien Noah's Ark crash-lands on Earth." Does anyone have information on this film? Regarding David Allen, I understand that he was working on his project, The Primevals at the time of his death. Is there a chance that someone will pick up the torch and finally complete the film? It just seems criminal to me that some spectacular stop-motion footage from these greats may never see the light of day. Edited by: Dr Spyclops at: 11/7/06 1:53 am BijouBob8mm (11/7/06 4:58 pm) Re: The Incomplete Works of Jim Danforth and David Allen -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I would love to see Danforth put out a book on his career, especially after reading about his unrealized work in pieces he wrote for SPFX magazine. It would be nice to see a DVD anthology of their unfinished films. Check out Criterian's EQUINOX disk for a rare Allen short subject. georgechastain (11/8/06 7:43 am) Re: The Incomplete Works of Jim Danforth and David Allen -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I recently discovered that Jim Danforth was working on his own recreation of the lost spider pit scene from KONG long before Peter Jackson tackled it. Yet another in a long series of fabulous unrealized projects Danforth has labored on over the years. Issue #5 of SPFX magazine has a terrific article about Danforth's career with tantalizing details about many of those projects, including lots of illustrations and color photos. I'd LOVE see a DVD collecting the existing footage from all or many of these "lost films" someday. Edited by: georgechastain at: 11/9/06 10:13 pm Unofficial CHFB Archives for "Men Behind The Monsters" 3 DAVID ALLEN - also repeated for JIM DANFORTH Ted Newsom (11/8/06 4:10 pm) Re: The Incomplete Works of Jim Danforth and David Allen -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim's been writing his book for quite some time. It's not a strict tretise on FX and stop-motion, thank goodness, but a far broader canvas. It sounds neat. As for PRIMEVALS... (sigh). There are still some 30 or 50 FX shots to do, including most of the elaborate climax. The actors (including Robert Cornthwaite in a prime character rle) were apparently never paid for their work (in Romania); the sound elements may still be missing, or at the very least tied up by unpaid lab & storage bills. The long relationship betwee Dave and Charlie Band was more than occasionally strained, but Charlie never gave up on trying to finish the movie. Any time there was spare dough, he'd funnell it over to Dave and his mate Chris Endicott so they could keep working, albeit slowly and between other assignments. Even after Dave's death, no one truly gave up. I was at the funeral, and Charlie was devastated. Dave was a really good guy. Unfortunatly, PRIMEVALS probably isn't cost-effective when it comes to pouring more money into it, not in today's market. Dr Spyclops (11/8/06 11:11 pm) Re: The Incomplete Works of Jim Danforth and David Allen -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Appreciate your input, gents and thanks for the inside word on The Primevals, Ted. If the film really isn't cost-effective to finish, then I wish Band would find a way to release Allen's footage as is somehow, even if it's just as a DVD extra on an unrelated title. It's strange how Danforth and Allen's careers somewhat parallel Willis O'Brien's, with so many promising projects never coming to fruition. Makes you wonder what would have happened to Harryhausen without his association with Schneer. BijouBob8mm (11/9/06 4:50 pm) Re: The Incomplete Works of Jim Danforth and David Allen -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Very true. Harryhausen has said, on more than one occasion, what a great thing it was to have become involved with a producer who realized the potential of stop-motion. And I would certainly grab up a DVD, no matter what it was, if it had THE PRIMEVALS material as a bonus feature. Unofficial CHFB Archives for "Men Behind The Monsters" 4 DAVID ALLEN - also repeated for JIM DANFORTH MartinZ60 (11/10/06 1:50 am) THE PRIMEVALS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If the film is never finished, perhaps the existing footage of THE PRIMEVALS could be presented in a documentary. Some background on David Allen and his career, how the story evolved over the years, production art, etc. JimPV (11/20/06 3:45 pm) Re: The Incomplete Works of Jim Danforth and David Allen -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I wish Band would find a way to release Allen's footage as is somehow, even if it's just as a DVD extra on an unrelated title. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I would certainly grab up a DVD, no matter what it was, if it had THE PRIMEVALS material as a bonus feature. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ditto! "How many cares one loses when one decides not to be something but to be someone" -Coco Chanel Unofficial CHFB Archives for "Men Behind The Monsters" 5 RICK BAKER Double Dare (11/12/05 9:08 am) Rick Baker's Karloff Frankenstein Photos? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does anybody know where I can find good photos of the reproduction of Karloff as the monster that Rick Baker did for himself? I've only seen blurry photos in some magazines and caught brief glimpses of the figure on television and I would love the chance to have a real good look at the Monster Maker's take on THE Monster. Any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. All the best, Nick "Come and get one in the yarbles, if ya have any yarble, ya eunuch jelly thou!" ForbiddenZone (11/19/05 10:06 am) Re: Rick Baker's Karloff Frankenstein Photos? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick, I would love to have some photos of that as well. I would also love to see good pics of Rick's lab replica. There use to be a show on cable called Movie Magic. They devoted an episode to Rick and showed his lab. Awesome stuff...just not enough of it!! Mike BijouBob8mm (12/7/05 3:50 pm) Re: Rick Baker's Karloff Frankenstein Photos? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Clips of Baker and his Frankensteinian creations appeared in a couple of Frankenstein documentaries. You might check 1994's IT'S ALIVE: THE TRUE STORY OF FRANKENSTEIN. (Also, isn't he one of the people featured in the documentaries created for the FRANKENSTEIN and BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN DVDs?) Unofficial CHFB Archives for "Men Behind The Monsters" 6 RICK BAKER Ron Zoso (3/3/06 11:45 am) Re: Rick Baker's Karloff Frankenstein Photos? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There's one photo (a head shot only) here: pixologic.com/zbrush/interviews/baker_interview.html Edited by: Ron Zoso at: 3/3/06 11:45 am Count Gamula (3/3/06 1:16 pm) Re: Rick Baker's Karloff Frankenstein Photos? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Those are pictures of Rick's computer art, not his lifesife Karloff Frankenstein. Here's a shot of that one. PHOTOS NOT INCLUDED HERE Dr Borgo (3/5/06 3:00 pm) Re: Rick Baker's Karloff Frankenstein Photos? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That is one talented man. I remember reading about him in FM when I was a kid around 10 years old. I would always look for his name in movie credits. He was just as much my hero as the stars in the movie. ForbiddenZone (3/8/06 9:03 am) Re: Rick Baker's Karloff Frankenstein Photos? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I wish someone would pop up with really good pictures of Baker's Frankenstein's Lab. I saw a little bit of it on an old show called Movie Magic years ago...and it's AWESOME!! Mike Unofficial CHFB Archives for "Men Behind The Monsters" 7 RICK BAKER Dr Acula (6/8/07 10:45 pm) What Happened Make-Up-wise on Cursed? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is about a modern film, but specifically about make-up, so I hope it's acceptable here. Okay, this is the story I've heard.