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1 MICHAEL GOVE MP THE ANDREW MARR SHOW 12TH JULY 2020 MICHAEL GOVE MP Minister for the Cabinet Office (Rough transcript, check against delivery) AM: Mr Gove, welcome. Should face masks be mandatory in shops in England? MG: I don’t think mandatory, no. But I would encourage people to wear face masks when they’re inside in an environment where they’re likely to be mixing with others and where the ventilation may not be as good as it might. So I think that it is basic good manners, courtesy, consideration to wear a face mask if you are, for example, in a shop. AM: But we don’t need the law to do that? MG: Well, I trust people’s good sense. Of course the government at all times does look at the emerging evidence about what the best way to control the disease is. If necessary and if tough measures are required, as we’ve seen in Leicester – obviously a very different situation – then tough measures will be taken. But on the whole my view is that it’s always better to trust to people’s common sense to give them their sense of what is wise, and I think that individuals and businesses are responding well to that lead. AM: You’re talking about borders today. Are Britain’s borders going to be ready and secure by the end of this year? MG: Yes, I think they will be. AM: Because your colleague, Liz Truss, as we know, as expressed some real worries about this. She said in her letter that she wanted assurances ‘that we’ll be able to deliver full control at ports by July 2021 and that plans are in place from January to 2 MICHAEL GOVE MP mitigate the risk of goods being circumvented from ports intercepting port controls.’ In other words, the whole thing is tight by then.
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