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2017 House Government and Veterans Affairs Hb 1330 2017 HOUSE GOVERNMENT AND VETERANS AFFAIRS HB 1330 2017 HOUSE STANDING COMMITTEE MINUTES Government and Veterans Affairs Committee Fort Union, State Capitol HB 1330 2/3/2017 27900 D Subcommittee D Conference Committee Committee Clerk Signature Explanation or reason for introduction of bill/resolution: Relating to the membership of the legislative management; and to declare an emergency Minutes: Attachment 1 Chairman Kasper opened the hearing on HB 1330. Rep. Mike Schatz introduced the bill. This is about legislative management and making it proportional. The current makeup of legislative management is 17 members. The 2 leaders from each house, the 2 minority leaders from each house, and the speaker make up 5. The remainder is 12 members, 6 from the Senate and 6 from the House who are elected by their respective chambers. Currently, we have a disproportionate number of Democrats to Republicans, and this bill will make it proportional, so the number that you have elected sitting in your chamber will change depending on the number you have. Attachment 1 explains the proportion. (4:48-5:26) Rep. Laning: Do you feel you should have some language indicating a minimum? Rep. Schatz: You are always going to have one from each. Rep. Al Carlson appeared in support. In the House there are 81 Republicans and 13 Democrats. If you did the math, that should be 1.1 Democrat and the rest should be Republicans. The leaders should always be involved. I have 75 members who don't belong, and there are only 10 members of the other caucus who don't belong. Yet the membership is 5 to 3. Passing something like this, you take the opportunity to have less members the next time you meet on council. As you know, council does the interim meetings, pick the studies, select people for various events and things in committees that we appoint through . They kind of run the legislature when we are not in session. Chairman Kasper closed the hearing . 2017 HOUSE STANDING COMMITTEE MINUTES Government and Veterans Affairs Committee Fort Union, State Capitol HB 1330 2/10/2017 28223 D Subcommittee D Conference Committee Committee Clerk Signature Explanation or reason for introduction of bill/resolution: Relating to the membership of the legislative management; and to declare an emergency Minutes: Chairman Kasper opened the meeting on HB 1330. Rep. Dockter made a motion for a DO PASS on HB 1330. Rep. B. Koppelman seconded the motion. Rep. Dockter: Legislative management will still have the majority and minority leaders of each chamber, but then have a formula to proportionately have a number of members who is elected in each chamber. We have 94 members divided by 6 members of legislative management equals 15.6 members of a party in order to get a seat. The Senate 47 divided by 6 means for 7.83 members of a party in order to get a seat. No matter which party is in control, we are disproportionate on the legislative management. This bill is intended to allow whoever has more seats gets more seat percentages on legislative management. A roll call vote was taken. 13 Yeas, 1 Nay, 0 Absent. Rep. B. Koppelman will carry the bill. Date: __2_ -_I_C,_ - _1_7..__ ___ Roll Call Vote #: _J______ 2017 HOUSE STANDING COMMITTEE ROLL CALL VOTES BILL/RESOLUTION NO. / 5 5 C) House Government and Veterans Affairs Committee D Subcommittee Amendment LC# or Description: ----------------------- Recommendation: D Adopt Amendment ~ Do Pass D Do Not Pass D Without Committee Recommendation D As Amended D Rerefer to Appropriations D Place on Consent Calendar Other Actions: D Reconsider D Motion Made By _ _,,J)__ ~ -------- Seconded By~ / Representatives Yes No Representatives Yes No Jim Kasper-Chairman )(' Pamela Anderson ?<' Scott Louser-Vice Chairman y Mary Schneider ~ Jason Dockter '><'" Craig A. Johnson --r Daniel Johnston IC Karen Karls ~ Ben Koppelman I<' Vernon Laning -,c Christopher D. Olson )<' Karen M. Rohr >< Vicky Steiner >< Steve Vetter X Total (Yes) No I Absent 0 Floor Assignment If the vote is on an amendment, briefly indicate intent: Com Standing Committee Report Module ID: h_stcomrep_27_015 February 10, 2017 1 :15PM Carrier: B. Koppelman REPORT OF STANDING COMMITTEE HB 1330: Government and Veterans Affairs Committee (Rep. Kasper, Chairman) recommends DO PASS (13 YEAS, 1 NAYS, 0 ABSENT AND NOT VOTING). HB 1330 was placed on the Eleventh order on the calendar. (1) DESK (3) COMMITTEE Page 1 h_stcomrep_27_ 015 2017 SENATE GOVERNMENT AND VETERANS AFFAIRS HB 1330 2017 SENATE STANDING COMMITTEE MINUTES Government and Veterans Affairs Committee Sheyenne River Room, State Capitol HB 1330 3/9/2017 Job Number 28964 D Subcommittee D Conference Committee Committee Clerk Signature Explanation or reason for introduction of bill/resoluf A BILL for an Act to amend and reenact section 54-35-01 of the North Dakota Century Code, relating to the membership of the legislative management; and to declare an emergency. Minutes: Attachments: 1-2 Chairman Poolman: Opened the hearing on HB 1330. Representative Schatz, District 36: See Attachment #1 for testimony as sponsor and in support of the bill. See Attachment #2 for additional information provided to the committee. (2:55) Senator Bekkedahl: What you are doing with the bill is allowing less representation for the majority and more for the minority compared to what we currently have elected, correct? Representative Schatz: Yes, with what is currently elected, there would be a larger percentage of the minority. Senator Bekkedahl: In HB 1330, does it set a floor for the minority in successive sessions going forward so that it never goes below that number? Representative Schatz: Yes, this would be the new floor and it would be done proportionately. Every time you have a big switch in the electorate, then you would probably have to put up a new bill. The issue being is that if you went truly based on proportional, it would only be 3 from the minority out of the two houses. This gives them a 4th , and so you get one from the general population in both the house and senate. Which makes it a little easier because who would we take, one senator or one house member as that 3rd member if we went truly proportional. This way it is the minorities and one member. Vice Chairman Davison: So, there is not a formula now, and it just spells it out. It really is not a formula, and there are no calculations. It doesn't change, and a formula to me would change based on something. Senate Government and Veterans Affairs Committee HB 1330 03/09/2017 Page 2 Representative Schatz: Currently the formula allows for 2 minority from the Senate and 2 from the House. This new formula would allow 1 from the Senate and 1 from the House. Vice Chairman Davison: You are talking a formula, and in a formula there are variables. If you change the variables, it changes the numbers. But, currently, it is just spelled out and it is the same way every biennium. Am I reading that correctly? The numbers don't change in current law, but with the formula that is proposed, the numbers could change depending on who is elected. Representative Schatz: That is correct. Vice Chairman Davison: It looks like a solution looking for a problem. What are we trying to solve here? Representative Schatz: The issue is that every time you have an election and you elect the majority and the minority. The current situation has 64% majority and 36% minority (referring to attachment #1), and that does not merely represent what it currently is as far as the percentages go. Rather than going strictly proportional, which I am not doing here, I am changing the numbers from 2 in the Senate and 2 in the House to 1 in each chamber for the minority. If those numbers ever get back up to 64% majority and 34%minority, then I am assuming that we would go back to those numbers but it would take another bill. I would gladly support a bill like that. Vice Chairman Davison: In essence, what we are voting on here is with the new formula, we don't feel like 64% for either party is enough of a majority in legislative management if there is a bigger proportional difference in what those majorities are in the House or the Senate. Representative Schatz: Can you restate that? Vice Chairman Davison: I am good. I understand it now. Chairman Poolman: I think I need clarification. You said this would be the new floor with the two elected minority leaders and then on the bill it says "notwithstanding this allocation, if the number of members in the minority political party in the senate would not result in any representation on the legislative management, the minority leader in the senate must represent that party on legislative management", so the floor would actually not be 4 people, it would be 2. Representative Schatz: I stand corrected; you are very much right. Chairman Poolman: There was no further testimony present. Closed the hearing on HB 1330. 2017 SENATE STANDING COMMITTEE MINUTES Government and Veterans Affairs Committee Sheyenne River Room, State Capitol HB 1330 3/23/2017 Job Number 29599 0 Subcommittee 0 Conference Committee Committee Clerk Signature Explanation or reason for introduction of bill/resolution. A BILL for an Act to amend and reenact section 54-35-01 of the North Dakota Century Code, relating to the membership of the legislative management; and to declare an emergency. Minutes: Attachments: 1 Chairman Poolman: Opened HB 1330 for committee discussion. See Attachment #1 for amendment proposed to the committee.
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