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Wetenschappelijke Verhandeling
UNIVERSITEIT GENT FACULTEIT POLITIEKE EN SOCIALE WETENSCHAPPEN WERNER HERZOG EN THE ECSTATIC TRUTH: OP ZOEK NAAR DE GRENS TUSSEN FICTIE EN DOCUMENTAIRE Wetenschappelijke verhandeling aantal woorden: 21405 BART WILLEMS MASTERPROEF COMMUNICATIEWETENSCHAPPEN afstudeerrichting FILM- EN TELEVISIESTUDIES PROMOTOR: PROF. DR. DANIEL BILTEREYST COMMISSARIS: PHILIPPE VAN MEERBEECK COMMISSARIS: GERTJAN WILLEMS ACADEMIEJAAR 2011 - 2012 ABSTRACT Werner Herzog, algemeen beschouwd als deel uitmakend van de Neue Deutsche Film beweging, kende het laatste decennium een revival en een hernieuwde waardering van zijn werk. In deze thesis wordt onderzocht hoe Herzogs concept van 'the ecstatic truth' in vele gevallen in strijd is met de genreregels van de documentaire, en zich tegelijk bevindt op de dunne grens tussen fictie en documentaire. Na een korte uiteenzetting van Herzogs leven en werk ga ik dieper in op zijn basisconcept van 'the ecstatic truth'. Vervolgens is er een bespreking van een tiental van Herzogs vroege documentaires, waarin wordt op zoek gegaan naar 'the ecstatic truth'. Na een schetsing van enkele analysemodellen wordt aangetoond dat dit concept gevormd wordt op alle niveaus van analyse, wat duidt op de elasticiteit ervan. Uiteindelijk wordt een van Herzogs meest recente films, Cave of Forgotten Dreams, geanalyseerd op alle niveaus van de modellen, op zoek naar het concept van 'the ecstatic truth'. Dit concept blijkt nog steeds nadrukkelijk aanwezig te zijn in Herzogs manier van realiteitsvorming, zij het in een iets minder flagrante vorm dan ooit het geval was. Herzogs zoektocht is er een naar een perspectief buiten onze werkelijkheid, die weliswaar na al die jaren nog steeds de grenzen van het genre aftast, maar deze grenzen tegelijk overstijgt. -
30. World Film Festival Montréal Winner Bavarian Film Award
WINNER BAVARIAN FILM AWARD SPECIAL JURY PRIZE 2006 SÉLECTION OFFICIELLE 30. WORLD FILM FESTIVAL MONTRÉAL IN COMPETITION WORLD PREMIÉRE MONTREAL WORLD FILMFESTIVAL 2006 . FESTIVAL DES FILMS DU MONDE 2006 Screenings August 31, 2006 11:30 L’écran VISA au CINÉMA IMPÉRIAL August 31, 2006 19:00 THÉATRE MAISONNEUVE September 01, 2006 16:30 L’écran VISA au CINÉMA IMPÉRIAL PRESS Ana Radica Presse Organisation Herzog-Wilhelmstr. 27 80331 München Germany TEL. 0049.89.2366120 EMAIL [email protected] 02 TABLE OF CONTENTS PAGE 01 Short comment on „WARCHILD“ 04 02 Synopsis 05 03 Reviews 05 04 Main roles 06 05 Minor roles 07 06 Teamlist 08 07 Short summary 09 08 Directors comments 10 - 11 09 Characterization of the main fi gures 12 10 Biography Cast 13 - 16 11 Biography Crew 16 - 21 12 Shooting time, locations, technical dates 22 03 1 SHORT COMMENTS ON „WARCHILD“ Balkan Blues Trilogy II Warchild featuring Labina Mitevska and Katrin Sass (GOOD BYE, LENIN) and directed by acclaimed fi lmmaker Christian Wagner (WALLERS LAST TRIP/TRANSATLANTIS/GHETTO KIDS), presented by the prestigious 30. WORLD FILM FESTIVAL MONTRÉAL in competition. Christian Wagner‘s second part of the BALKAN BLUES TRILOGY stars Labina Mitevska and Katrin Sass. Mitevska (EUROPEAN SHOOTINGSTAR 1998) made her debut in BEFORE THE RAIN, a fi lm that won the Golden Lion at the Venice Film Festival, and has appeared in several Michael Winterbottom fi lms (WELCOME TO SARAJEVO and I WANT YOU). Katrin Sass, too, has a remarkable career to look back on. At the Berlin International Film Festival in 1982, she received the Silver Bear for her performance in ON PROBATION and she also was awarded the German Film Award for her part in HEIDE M. -
German Films Quarterly 2 · 2004
German Films Quarterly 2 · 2004 AT CANNES In Competition DIE FETTEN JAHRE SIND VORBEI by Hans Weingartner FULFILLING EXPECTATIONS Interview with new FFA CEO Peter Dinges GERMAN FILM AWARD … and the nominees are … SPECIAL REPORT 50 Years Export-Union of German Cinema German Films and IN THE OFFICIAL PROGRAM OF THE In Competition In Competition (shorts) In Competition Out of Competition Die Fetten Der Tropical Salvador Jahre sind Schwimmer Malady Allende vorbei The Swimmer by Apichatpong by Patricio Guzman by Klaus Huettmann Weerasethakul The Edukators German co-producer: by Hans Weingartner Producer: German co-producer: CV Films/Berlin B & T Film/Berlin Thoke + Moebius Film/Berlin German producer: World Sales: y3/Berlin Celluloid Dreams/Paris World Sales: Celluloid Dreams/Paris Credits not contractual Co-Productions Cannes Film Festival Un Certain Regard Un Certain Regard Un Certain Regard Directors’ Fortnight Marseille Hotel Whisky Charlotte by Angela Schanelec by Jessica Hausner by Juan Pablo Rebella by Ulrike von Ribbeck & Pablo Stoll Producer: German co-producer: Producer: Schramm Film/Berlin Essential Film/Berlin German co-producer: Deutsche Film- & Fernseh- World Sales: Pandora Film/Cologne akademie (dffb)/Berlin The Coproduction Office/Paris World Sales: Bavaria Film International/ Geiselgasteig german films quarterly 2/2004 6 focus on 50 YEARS EXPORT-UNION OF GERMAN CINEMA 22 interview with Peter Dinges FULFILLING EXPECTATIONS directors’ portraits 24 THE VISIONARY A portrait of Achim von Borries 25 RISKING GREAT EMOTIONS A portrait of Vanessa Jopp 28 producers’ portrait FILMMAKING SHOULD BE FUN A portrait of Avista Film 30 actor’s portrait BORN TO ACT A portrait of Moritz Bleibtreu 32 news in production 38 BERGKRISTALL ROCK CRYSTAL Joseph Vilsmaier 38 DAS BLUT DER TEMPLER THE BLOOD OF THE TEMPLARS Florian Baxmeyer 39 BRUDERMORD FRATRICIDE Yilmaz Arslan 40 DIE DALTONS VS. -
L'invention Musicale Face À La Nature Dans Grizzly Man, the Wild
Document generated on 09/28/2021 12:13 a.m. Revue musicale OICRM L’invention musicale face à la nature dans Grizzly Man, The Wild Blue Yonder et La grotte des rêves perdus de Werner Herzog Vincent Deville Ce que le cinéma nous apprend de la musique Article abstract Volume 5, Number 1, 2018 When German filmmaker Werner Herzog directs or produces three documentaries on the creation and recording of the music of three of his films URI: https://id.erudit.org/iderudit/1044446ar between 2005 and 2011, he performs a double gesture of revelation and DOI: https://doi.org/10.7202/1044446ar incarnation: the notes become visible through the body of the musicians. In doing so, Herzog reveals his poetic art: musical forms respond to nature, so See table of contents present in his films; nature is seen as an instrument of harmony while music becomes a power of estrangement, getting our perceptions out of tune; and by giving us access to both the infigurable – the moral being – and the material body made of flesh and bone, the music opens a path to the heart of the world. Publisher(s) Observatoire interdisciplinaire de création et recherche en musique (OICRM) ISSN 2368-7061 (digital) Explore this journal Cite this article Deville, V. (2018). L’invention musicale face à la nature dans Grizzly Man, The Wild Blue Yonder et La grotte des rêves perdus de Werner Herzog. Revue musicale OICRM, 5(1), 103–120. https://doi.org/10.7202/1044446ar Tous droits réservés © Revue musicale OICRM, 2018 This document is protected by copyright law. -
Information & Bibliothek
DVD / Blu-Ray-Gesamtkatalog der Bibliothek / Catálogo Completo de DVDs e Blu-Rays da Biblioteca Abkürzungen / Abreviações: B = Buch / Roteiro; D = Darsteller / Atores; R = Regie / Diretor; UT = Untertitel / Legendas; dtsch. = deutsch / alemão; engl. = englisch / inglês; port. = portugiesisch / português; franz. = französisch / francês; russ. = russisch / russo; span. = spanisch / espanhol; chin. = chinesisch / chinês; jap. = japanisch / japonês; mehrsprach. = mehrsprachig / plurilingüe; M = Musiker / M úsico; Dir. = Dirigent / Regente; Inter. = Interprete / Intérprete; EST = Einheitssachtitel / Título Original; Zwischent. = Zwischentitel / Entretítulos ● = Audio + Untertitel deutsch / áudio e legendas em alemão Periodika / Periódicos ------------------------------- 05 Kub KuBus. - Bonn: Inter Nationes ● 68. Film 1: Eine Frage des Vertrauens - Die Auflösung des Deutschen Bundestags. Film 2: Stelen im Herzen Berlins - Das Denkmal für die ermordeten Juden Europas. - 2005. - DVD: 30 Min. : farb. ; dtsch., engl., franz., span., + mehrspr. Begleitbuch ; dtsch., russ., chin. UT ; NTSC ; V+Ö. (KuBus , 68) ● 69: Film 1: Im Vorwärtsgang - Frauenfußball in Deutschland. Film 2: Faktor X - Die Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft und die digitale Zukunft. - 2005.- DVD: 30 Min. : farb. ; dtsch., engl., franz., span., + mehrspr. Begleitbuch ; dtsch., russ., chin. UT ; NTSC ; V+Ö. (KuBus ; 69) ● 70. Film 1: Wie deutsch darf man singen? Film 2: Traumberuf Dirigentin. - 2006. - DVD: 30 Min. : farb. ; dtsch., engl., franz., span., + mehrspr. Begleitbuch ; dtsch., russ., chin. UT ; NTSC ; V+Ö. (KuBus ; 70) ● 71. Film 1: Der Maler Jörg Immendorff. Film 2: Der junge deutsche Jazz. - 2006. - DVD: 30 Min. : farb. ; dtsch., engl., franz., span., + mehrspr. Begleitbuch ; dtsch., russ., chin. UT ; NTSC ; V+Ö. (KuBus ; 71) ● 72. Film 1: Die Kunst des Bierbrauens. Film 2: Fortschritt unter der Karosserie. - 2006. - DVD: 30 Min. : farb. ; dtsch., engl., franz., span., + mehrspr. -
DVD-Liste SPIELFILME
DVD-Liste Der Bibliothek des Goethe-Instituts Krakau SPIELFILME Abgebrannt / [Darsteller:] Maryam Zaree, Tilla Kratochwil, Lukas Steltner... Regie & Buch: Verena S. Freytag. Kamera: Ali Olcay Gözkaya. Musik: Roland Satterwhite Frankfurt: PFMedia, 2012.- Bildtonträger.- 1 DVD-Video (Ländercode 0, 103 Min.) : farb. Sprache: dt. - Untertitel: engl., franz.- FSK-Freigabe ab 12 Jahren. - Spielfilm. Deutschland. 2010 The Adventures of Werner Holt / Darsteller: Klaus-Peter Thiele, Manfred Karge, Arno Wyzniewski ... Kamera: Rolf Sohre. Musik: Gerhard Wohlgemuth. Drehbuch: Claus Küchenmeister... Regie: Joachim Kunert. [Nach dem Roman von Dieter Noll] - 1 DVD (163 Min.) : s/w. Dolby digital EST: Die@Abenteuer des Werner Holt <dt.> Sprache: dt. - Untertitel: eng. - Extras: Biografien und Filmografien. - Spielfilm, Literaturverfilmung. DDR. 1964 Abfallprodukte der Liebe / Ein Film von Werner Schroeter. Mit Anita Cerquetti, Martha Mödl, Rita Gorr... Berlin: Filmgalerie 451, 2009.- Bildtonträger.- 1 DVD Abschied : Brechts letzter Sommer / Josef Bierbichler, Monika Bleibtreu, Elfriede Irrall ... Buch: Klaus Pohl. Kamera: Edward KÚosiõski. Musik: John Cale. Regie: Jan Schütte München: Goethe-Institut e.V., 2013.- Bildtonträger.- 1 DVD (PAL, Ländercode-frei, 88 Min.) : farb., DD 2.0 Stereo Sprache: dt. - Untertitel: dt., engl., span., franz., port.. - Spielfilm. Deutschland. 2000 Absolute Giganten / ein Film von Sebastian Schipper. [Darst.]: Frank Giering, Florian Lukas, Antoine Monot, Julia Hummer. Kamera: Frank Griebe. Musik: The Notwist. Drehbuch und Regie: Sebastian Schipper Notwist München: Goethe-Institut e.V., 2012.- Bildtonträger.- 1 DVD (PAL, Ländercode-frei, 81 Min.) : farb., DD 2.0 Sprache: dt. - Untertitel: dt., span., port., engl., franz., ital., indo.. - Spielfilm. Deutschland. 1999 Absurdistan / ein Film von Veit Helmer. Mit: Maximilian Mauff, Kristýna MaléÂová und Schauspielern aus 18 Ländern. -
Titel Kino 4/2000 Nr. 1U.2
EXPORT-UNION OF GERMAN CINEMA 4/2000 Special Report: TRAINING THE NEXT GENERATION – Film Schools In Germany ”THE TANGO DANCER“: Portrait of Jeanine Meerapfel Selling German Films: CINE INTERNATIONAL & KINOWELT INTERNATIONAL Kino Scene from:“A BUNDLE OF JOY” GERMAN CINEMA Launched at MIFED 2000 a new label of Bavaria Film International Further info at www.bavaria-film-international.de www. german- cinema. de/ FILMS.INFORMATION ON GERMAN now with links to international festivals! GERMAN CINEMA Export-Union des Deutschen Films GmbH · Tuerkenstrasse 93 · D-80799 München phone +49-89-3900 9 5 · fax +49-89-3952 2 3 · email: [email protected] KINO 4/2000 6 Training The Next Generation 33 Soweit die Füße tragen Film Schools in Germany Hardy Martins 34 Vaya Con Dios 15 The Tango Dancer Zoltan Spirandelli Portrait of Jeanine Meerapfel 34 Vera Brühne Hark Bohm 16 Pursuing The Exceptional 35 Vill Passiert In The Everyday Wim Wenders Portrait of Hans-Christian Schmid 18 Then She Makes Her Pitch Cine International 36 German Classics 20 On Top Of The Kinowelt 36 Abwärts Kinowelt International OUT OF ORDER Carl Schenkel 21 The Teamworx Player 37 Die Artisten in der Zirkuskuppel: teamWorx Production Company ratlos THE ARTISTS UNDER THE BIG TOP: 24 KINO news PERPLEXED Alexander Kluge 38 Ehe im Schatten MARRIAGE IN THE SHADOW 28 In Production Kurt Maetzig 39 Harlis 28 B-52 Robert van Ackeren Hartmut Bitomsky 40 Karbid und Sauerampfer 28 Die Champions CARBIDE AND SORREL Christoph Hübner Frank Beyer 29 Julietta 41 Martha Christoph Stark Rainer Werner Fassbinder 30 Königskinder Anne Wild 30 Mein langsames Leben Angela Schanelec 31 Nancy und Frank Wolf Gremm 32 Null Uhr Zwölf Bernd-Michael Lade 32 Das Sams Ben Verbong CONTENTS 50 Kleine Kreise 42 New German Films CIRCLING Jakob Hilpert 42 Das Bankett 51 Liebe nach Mitternacht THE BANQUET MIDNIGHT LOVE Holger Jancke, Olaf Jacobs Harald Leipnitz 43 Doppelpack 52 Liebesluder DOUBLE PACK A BUNDLE OF JOY Matthias Lehmann Detlev W. -
Krautrock and the West German Counterculture
“Macht das Ohr auf” Krautrock and the West German Counterculture Ryan Iseppi A thesis submitted in partial fulfillment of the requirements for the degree of BACHELOR OF ARTS WITH HONORS DEPARTMENT OF GERMANIC LANGUAGES & LITERATURES UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN April 17, 2012 Advised by Professor Vanessa Agnew 2 Contents I. Introduction 5 Electric Junk: Krautrock’s Identity Crisis II. Chapter 1 23 Future Days: Krautrock Roots and Synthesis III. Chapter 2 33 The Collaborative Ethos and the Spirit of ‘68 IV: Chapter 3 47 Macht kaputt, was euch kaputt macht: Krautrock in Opposition V: Chapter 4 61 Ethnological Forgeries and Agit-Rock VI: Chapter 5 73 The Man-Machines: Krautrock and Electronic Music VII: Conclusion 85 Ultima Thule: Krautrock and the Modern World VIII: Bibliography 95 IX: Discography 103 3 4 I. Introduction Electric Junk: Krautrock’s Identity Crisis If there is any musical subculture to which this modern age of online music consumption has been particularly kind, it is certainly the obscure, groundbreaking, and oft misunderstood German pop music phenomenon known as “krautrock”. That krautrock’s appeal to new generations of musicians and fans both in Germany and abroad continues to grow with each passing year is a testament to the implicitly iconoclastic nature of the style; krautrock still sounds odd, eccentric, and even confrontational approximately twenty-five years after the movement is generally considered to have ended.1 In fact, it is difficult nowadays to even page through a recent issue of major periodicals like Rolling Stone or Spin without chancing upon some kind of passing reference to the genre. -
Pontifícia Universidade Católica De São Paulo Puc/Sp
PONTIFÍCIA UNIVERSIDADE CATÓLICA DE SÃO PAULO PUC/SP Rita de Cássia da Silva Leão Werner Herzog em busca da compreensão humana DOUTORADO EM CIÊNCIAS SOCIAIS Tese apresentada à banca examinadora da Pontifícia Universidade Católica de São Paulo, como exigência parcial para a obtenção do título de Doutora em Ciências Sociais (Antropologia), sob a orientação da Prof.ª Dr.ª Lucia Helena Vitalli Rangel. São Paulo 2015 BANCA EXAMINADORA ________________________________________ ________________________________________ ________________________________________ ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Agradecimentos À CAPES e ao CNPq, pela concessão da bolsa de Doutorado. À Prof.ª Dr.a Lucia Helena Vitalli Rangel Ao Prof. Dr. Edgard de Assis Carvalho Ao Prof. Dr. Edmilson Felipe À Prof.ª Dr.a Cynthia Marcucci Ao Prof. Dr. Flávio Sousa Brito Dedico aos queridos Iara e Guilherme. RESUMO Todo cinema contém um caráter antropológico, por ser aberto como a própria humanidade. A obra de Werner Herzog é contigua à antropologia fundamental, que busca compreender o processo de penetração do homem no mundo e o processo inseparável de penetração do mundo no homem. O primeiro filme analisado, Wodaabe: Os pastores do sol, trata do amor à beleza entre seres que se sentem desprezados pelos povos vizinhos. O segundo, O homem urso, de um humano que queria ser urso e não suportava o mundo dos humanos. O terceiro, A caverna dos sonhos esquecidos, conta como sonhava a humanidade há 32 mil anos, como projetava seu duplo nas paredes das cavernas e nas pequenas estátuas. Nas pinturas e estátuas estão presentes, ao mesmo tempo, uma tendência para o fantástico e para a realidade das formas. -
Popol Vuh Aguirre Flac
Popol vuh aguirre flac Find a Popol Vuh - Aguirre first pressing or reissue. Complete your Popol Vuh collection. Shop Vinyl and CDs. Popol Vuh - Aguirre. Electronic, Rock. Popol Vuh - Aguirre. Title: Popol Vuh - Aguirre. Singer: Popol Vuh. Album name: Aguirre. Size: mb. Genre: Electronic. Category, Artist, Title (Format), Label, Category, Country, Year. CEL /, Popol Vuh, In The Gardens Of Pharao / Aguirre (2xLP, Comp), Celestial. (Avant-garde, Modern Classical, Contemporary) Alberto Ginastera – Popol Vuh; Cantata para America Koln - Stefan Asbury, Ensemble S) , FLAC (image+.cue) lossless MB. Popol Vuh - Aguirre [OST] [Mp3 Kbps]: MB. Pioneers of German "krautrock" music, Popol Vuh was the creature of Florian Fricke (). The first album "Affenstunde" () is an. Popol Vuh - In the Gardens of Pharao/Aguirre (). Segundo flac + covers + 5% Popol Vuh - Gesang der Gesänge (). Popol Vuh's Affenstunde and Deuter's D were strong influences. free Bandcamp app, plus high-quality download in MP3, FLAC and more. Plays Popol Vuh by Valerio Cosi, released 20 June 1. Aguirre (In B Major: Stars Aligning) 2. Hosianna Mantra 3. Vuh 4. streaming via the free Bandcamp app, plus high-quality download in MP3, FLAC and more. Popol Vuh é uma banda que admiro muito, o primeiro disco do grupo que álbuns o Hosianna Mantra, Affenstunde, Tantric Song, Aguirre e Nosferatu. E Bandeiras ( brazilian, superb hard/psychedelic pop-rock) Flac. For German avant gardists Popol Vuh, it's practically impossible. "Aguirre I" features peals of artificial choir sound, played by Fricke on a. MP3; FLAC; WAV Excerpts from their soundtrack to Aguirre, The Wrath Of God are used in the Haswell & Hecker re-composition featured here, . -
Popol Vuh Gratis Epub, Ebook
POPOL VUH GRATIS Auteur: W. Cordan Aantal pagina's: 226 pagina's Verschijningsdatum: 2001-04-07 Uitgever: Ankh-Hermes EAN: 9789020248562 Taal: nl Link: Download hier Popol Vuh (band) Cordan Uitgever Ankh-Hermes. Vertaling Vertaald door R. Overige kenmerken Extra groot lettertype Nee Gewicht g Verpakking breedte mm Verpakking hoogte 25 cm Verpakking lengte mm. Toon meer Toon minder. Reviews Schrijf een review. Bindwijze: Hardcover. Alleen tweedehands. Op voorraad. Nu besteld, dinsdag in huis Levertijd We doen er alles aan om dit artikel op tijd te bezorgen. In winkelwagen Op verlanglijstje. Bestellen en betalen via bol. Andere verkopers 3. Anderen bekeken ook. Popol Vuh 1. De Maya Kalender en de transformatie van het bewustzijn 2. Symbolen van de Inca, Maya en Azteken 4. De Grijze Jager 2 - De brandende brug Popol Vuh 0. Het Tibetaans dodenboek 5. Het Gilgamesj-epos 4. Bekijk de hele lijst. Over de serie Grote klassieken Ook in de moderne tijd van smartphones en internet zijn de grote denkers relevant. Friedrich Nietzsche Aldus sprak Zarathoestra 15, Richard Wilhelm I Tjing 35, Popol Vuh beïnvloedde veel andere Europese bands met hun unieke zachte en fijne instrumentatie, die zijn inspiratie haalde uit Tibet , Afrika en oud Amerika. Ze creëerden psychedelische klanken en worden door sommige aanzien als de voorlopers van de hedendaagse wereldmuziek en ook van new age muziek. Florian Fricke overleed in München op 29 december , en daarmee hield de groep op te bestaan. Uit Wikipedia, de vrije encyclopedie. Categorie : Duitse rockband. Naamruimten Artikel Overleg. Popol Vuh Pension, San Salvador Het is echter in een enkel geval mogelijk dat door omstandigheden de bezorging vertraagd is. -
The History of Rock Music: 1966-1969
The History of Rock Music: 1966-1969 Genres and musicians of the Sixties History of Rock Music | 1955-66 | 1967-69 | 1970-75 | 1976-89 | The early 1990s | The late 1990s | The 2000s | Alpha index Musicians of 1955-66 | 1967-69 | 1970-76 | 1977-89 | 1990s in the US | 1990s outside the US | 2000s Back to the main Music page Inquire about purchasing the book (Copyright © 2009 Piero Scaruffi) Kosmische Musik 1969-72 (These are excerpts from my book "A History of Rock and Dance Music") Fundamentally, British rock recycled USA rock for a different kind of audience: the Beatles recycled it for a pop-oriented audience, progressive-rock (in all its neo-classical and jazz variations) recycled it for an intellectual audience. German rock, instead, invented a different kind of rock music. In fact, many German bands were not playing "rock" music at all. There is no question that the great era of German avant-rock was inspired by psychedelic music, but the German interpretation of psychedelic music had little to do with reproducing the effects of drugs: German musicians saw a relationship between psychedelic experiments and the German electronic avantgarde (such as Karlheinz Stockhausen), a relationship that, in retrospect, was already obvious in the USA's psychedelia, but that no one had articulated before. In 1968 three young musicians, Conrad Schnitzler, Hans-Joachim Roedelius and Klaus Schulze, founded the "Zodiak Free Arts Lab" in Berlin. This became the first venue for popular electronic music in Europe. That can be considered the moment when German musicians figured out that strategic relationship between psychedelic music and avantgarde music.