MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF PEACE RIVER HELD ON MONDAY MAY 26, 2003 AT 6:15 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS 1
PRESENT: Mayor L. Mann, Councillors I. Callioux, T. Day D. Good, N. Martin, F. Oberle, R. Wesolowski
REGRETS:
STAFF PRESENT: Kelly Bunn, CAO C. Vanderaegen, Administrative Assistant
I CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Ma n called the meeting to order at 6:15 p.m.
II IN-CAMERA
MOTION 03-05-06 Councillor Wesolowski moved that the meeting go in-camera at 6:15 p.m.
MOTION CARRIED
MOTION 03-05-07 Councillor Callioux moved that the meeting return to regular meeting at 7:15 p.m.
MOTION CARRIED
Ill ADOPTION OF AGENDA
- Additions
- Deletions
MOTION 03-05-08 Councillor Oberle moved that the agenda be adopted as presented.
MOTION CARRIED
IV MINUTES
1. Minutes of the Regular Meeting of Council of the Town of Peace River Held on Monday, April 28, 2003.
MOTION 03-05-09 Councillor Callioux moved that the minutes of the regular meeting of Council of the Town of Peace River held on April 28, 2003 be adopted as presented.
MOTION CARRIED MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF PEACE RIVER HELD ON MONDAY MAY 26, 2003 AT 6:15 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS 2 2. Transcript from the Public Hearing of Land Use Bylaw No. 1731 held on April 30, 2003.
A copy of these transcripts is attached and form part of these minutes.
3. Minutes of the Special Meeting of Council of the Town of Peace River Held on May 22, 2003.
MOTION 03-05-10 Councillor Good moved that the minutes of the special meeting of Council or the Town of Peace River held on May 22, 2003 be adopted as presented.
MOTION CARRIED
V DELEGATIONS
1. New Business Item 26, Peace Hope Society was dealt with here.
Maria Stranaghan was in attendance to give Council an update on the Society s works.
MOTION 03-05-1 1 Councillor Callioux moved that the month of May be proclaimed Organ Donation Awareness Month in the Town of Peace River.
MOTION CARRIED
2. New Business item 22 was dealt with here.
Chris Blake was in attendance to make a presentation to Council regarding Peacefest s request for sponsorship of $5,000.00.
MOTION 03-05-12 Councillor Wesolowski moved that Peacefest s request for sponsorship in the amount of $5,000.00 be tabled until later in the meeting.
MOTION CARRIED
VI UNFINISHED BUSINESS
None.
VII MANAGERS REPORTS
1. Municipal Secretary.
Enclosed was a report to Council from Renate Bensch, Municipal Secretary regarding the Bylaw Enforcement Contract. MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF PEACE RIVER HELD ON MONDAY MAY 26, 2003 AT 6:15 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS 3
MOTION 03-05-13 Councillor Callioux moved that the bylaw enforcement contract with SGS Protection be renewed for a further 1-year term at a cost of $16,640.00.
MOTION CARRIED
2. Municipal Treasurer.
Enclosed was a report to Council from Barb Lyons, Municipal Treasurer, regarding the 2005 Centennial Legacy Program.
MOTION 03-05-14 Councillor Callioux moved that the original proposals for projects under the 2005 Centennial Legacy Program be brought back to Council for consideration and submission.
MOTION CARRIED
4. Planning and Development.
Enclosed were the following reports to Council from Stuart Wraight, Planning and Development Officer:
a Land Use Bylaw 1731.
Stuart was in attendance to give Council an overview of the responses from the public to the proposed Land Use Bylaw.
MOTION 03-05-15 Councillor Callioux moved that Bylaw No. 1731 be presented for second reading subject to the following recommendations being implemented before submission for third reading:
a Section 14 (m)(iv) Wall Signs, Maximum Number per Site redraft to include provision for multiple signs on malls etc.
b Section 32 Riverfront Development District (R-D) define options to accommodate Home Hardware in Riverfront Development or Commercial, determine if business is retail store or lumber yard.
c Section 24 Residential Manufactured (Mobile) Home Subdivision District (R-MHS) -Draft change to allow automobile sales in district, TriStar Chrysler Used Vehicles Sales Office is located at entrance of Coolsprings Trailer Park.
MOTION CARRIED
b Sign proposal on town property.
MOTION 03-05-16 Councillor Wesolowski moved that the request from Northbase Outdoor to place a wooden sign on Town property at the foot of Kaufman hill be tabled pending approval of Land Use Bylaw MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF PEACE RIVER HELD ON MONDAY MAY 26, 2003 AT 6:15 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS 4 No. 1731.
MOTION CARRIED
c Community Composting Project Baldwin Court.
MOTION 03-05-17 Councillor Callioux moved that the group proposing the composting project in Baldwin court be invited to attend the next council meeting to discuss their proposal.
MOTION CARRIED
d Street Light Request for 9612 100 Street.
MOTION 03-05-18 Councillor Wesolowski moved that the request for funding for two
additional decorative street lights at 9612 9616 100 Street be denied.
MOTION CARRIED
Councillor Oberle left the meeting at 9:01 p.m.
Councillor Oberle returned to the meeting at 9:03 p.m.
e Peace Country Co-op Proposed Landscaping Enhancements on Town Property.
MOTION 03-05-19 Councillor Good moved that Council support the Peace Country Co-op s request to upgrade the common areas on the south side of their property from sidewalk to curb on 96th Avenue and on the east side from retaining wall to the curb along 98th Street by replacing the grass with a liner and one or two inches of landscaping rock, subject to the Co-op covering all costs associated with this work; on the basis that the work will be undertaken and maintained by the Co-op. to the Town s satisfaction; and agreement be given to include a standard 30 day termination clause in the event that the Town may require access to the subject lands in the future.
MOTION CARRIED
f Joint Economic Development Committee.
MOTION 03-05-20 Councillor Wesolowski moved that Council support the establishment of the Joint Economic Development Committee and the submission of a grant for assistance with the initiative subject to a Bylaw being prepared to incorporate the Joint Economic Development Committee guidelines.
MOTION CARRIED
Councillor Oberle left the meeting at 9:08 p.m. Councillor Oberle returned to the meeting at 9:10 p.m. MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF PEACE RIVER HELD ON MONDAY MAY 26, 2003 AT 6:15 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS 5
5. Recreation and Sport.
Enclosed were the following reports to Council from Paul Marceau, Manager:
a Arena Patron Mishap.
This item was received for Council s information.
b Pool Upgrade CFEP Application.
MOTION 03-05-2 1 Councillor Callioux moved that the diving board funding request be tabled until grant funding in place.
MOTION CARRIED
6. Bylaw Enforcement.
Enclosed was a report to Council from Graham Smyth regarding the use of Centennial Parking Lot for Carnivals.
MOTION 03-05-22 Councillor moved that item be tabled pending the Chamber of Commerce s comments on the concerns brought forward regarding Carnivals at Centennial Parking Lot.
MOTION CARRIED
7. Water Plant! Field Services.
Enclosed was a list of people and companies who were very helpful in the Town of Peace River s recent water shortage.
MOTION 03-05-23 Councillor Wesolowski moved that Mayor Mann send a thank you letter to each of the helping parties and that public acknowledgement of their assistance be made in the Record Gazette.
MOTION CARRIED
Meeting adjourned briefly for a 5-minute break at 9:23 p.m.
Meeting reconvened at 9:27 p.m.
VIII FINANCIAL STATEMENT(S)
None.
IX COMMITTEE REPORTS MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF PEACE RIVER HELD ON MONDAY MAY 26, 2003 AT 6:15 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS 6 None.
X NEW BUSINESS
1. AUMA.
Enclosed are the following items from the AUMA: a AUMA Awards Deadline.
This item was received for Council s information.
b RCMP Policing Business Plan Template.
This item was received for Council s information.
c AUMA s APEX and APEX Plus Update.
This item was received for Council s information.
d Last call for Resolutions for the 2003 AUMA Convention.
This item was received for Council s information.
e AUMA Award of Excellence .
2. Alberta Environment.
Enclosed was a letter from Bill Vanderaegen requesting permission to close the off street parking in from of the Mackenzie Mall for a Environment Week display, June 7, 2003 from 9:30 am. to 3:00 pm.
MOTION 03-05-24 Councillor Callioux moved that permission be granted for the closure of the parking spaces on the east side of the Mackenzie Mall for an Environment Week display.
MOTION CARRIED
5. Alberta Community Development.
Enclosed was an information and registration package from Bernie Mac Donald, Acting Manger and Brian Wright, Chair, Energize Advisory Committee for the
Energize Workshop being held October 23 25, 2003 in Medicine Hat.
This item was received for Council s information. MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF PEACE RIVER HELD ON MONDAY MAY 26, 2003 AT 6:15 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS 7 6. Fairview Amateur Rodeo.
Enclosed was a letter from Norbert Luken, requesting a $10,000.00 donation to the repair of the Waterhole Rodeo facilities.
MOTION 03-05-25 Councillor Good moved that a donation of $500.00 be sent to the Fairview amateur Rodeo for repairs to the Waterhole grandstands to be funded from Council promotion.
MOTION CARRIED
7. Federation of Canadian Municipalities.
Enclosed was a Notice of 2003 Annual General Meeting to be held June 1, 2003 in Winnipeg, Manitoba.
This item was received for Council s information.
8. Indian and Northern Affairs Canada.
Enclosed was an invitation to celebrate National Aboriginal Day on June 21, 2003 and a list of products available for purchase.
MOTION 03-05-26 Councillor Callioux moved that the invitation and information be forwarded to the Sagitawa Friendship Centre.
MOTION CARRIED
8. Alberta Municipal Affairs
Enclosed was a request from the Honourable Guy Boutilier, Minister for submissions for the second annual Minister s Awards for Municipal Excellence.
This item was received for Council s information.
9. Peace River Centennial Museum and Archives.
Enclosed was a letter from Gordon Troupe, Chairman of the Museum Board regarding the role of the Museum Board.
MOTION 03-05-27 Councillor Good moved that the Peace River Centennial Museum Board become an advisory board as per the Museum Board s request.
MOTION CARRIED MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF PEACE RIVER HELD ON MONDAY MAY 26, 2003 AT 6:15 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS 8
10. PeaceFest 2003.
Enclosed was an invitation from the Peacefest Committee to participate in this years celebration July 1 2, 2003 on Main Street.
MOTION 03-05-28 Councillor Good moved that a donation of $1500.00 to be used the promotion of PeaceFest to be funded from Council promotion.
MOTION CARRIED
11. Rick Hanson, Man In Motion Foundation.
Enclosed was a letter from Rick Hanson requesting that the Town of Peace River host an event to raise money for the Rick Hanson Wheels in Motion on June 14, 2003 to raise money for spinal cord injury research.
MOTION 03-05-29 Councillor Martin moved that the Rick Hanson, Man In Motion information be forwarded to Community Services and the Peace Health Region
MOTION CARRIED
1 2. Peace River Scottish Society.
Enclosed was a letter from Laurie Horosko, requesting permission to close River Road between Athabasca Hall and the Anglican Church on June 14, 2003 from 8:00 am to 4:00 pm. for their annual Highland Dance Competition.
MOTION 03-05-30 Councillor Martin moved that the Peace River Scottish society be granted permission to close River Road between the Athabasca Hall and the Anglican Church on June 14, 2003 from 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. for the Highland Dance competition subject to the RCMP, PREMS, Fire Department and Public Works being notified.
MOTION CARRIED
1 3. Edmonton City Centre Airport.
Enclosed were several letters of support for the Town of Peace River s initiative to keep the Edmonton city Centre Airport open.
Motion 03-05-31 Councillor Callioux moved that copies of the enclosed letters of support be forwarded to the Northern Alberta Development Corporation.
MOTION CARRIED MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF PEACE RIVER HELD ON MONDAY MAY 26, 2003 AT 6:15 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS 9
14. Town of Three Hills.
Enclosed was a letter from Myrna Bauman, Mayor giving an update on the initiative to promote fairness in payment for police services.
This item was received for Council s information.
1 5. Leader, Canada s NDP.
Enclosed was a letter from Jack Layton, requesting the completion of the attached survey and introducing his Community Investment Advocacy Team within the NDP Caucus.
MOTION 03-05-32 Councillor Callioux moved that Administration be directed to complete the survey based on the Town of Peace River s Capital requirements.
MOTION CARRIED
1 6. Alberta Municipal Affairs.
Enclosed was a letter from the honourable Guy Boutilier announcing the continuation of the Municipal Sponsorship Program for 2003/2004.
MOTION 03-05-33 Councillor Callioux moved that a letter of support for the grant application for funding of a fire truck be sent.
MOTION CARRIED
1 7. Brain Injury Awareness Week.
Enclosed was a letter from Maureen Gravelle, Brain Injury Awareness Week Coordinator 2003 requesting that June
1 7, 2003 be proclaimed Brain Injury Awareness Week in the Town of Peace River.
MOTION 03-05-34 Councillor Good moved that June 1 7, 2003 be proclaimed Brain Injury Awareness Week in the Town of Peace River.
MOTION CARRIED
18. Peace Regional Emergency Medical Services.
Enclosed was a letter from Paul Ramer, General Manager regarding the lease between the Town of Peace River and Peace Regional EMS. MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF PEACE RIVER HELD ON MONDAY MAY 26, 2003 AT 6:15 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS 10 MOTION 03-05-35 Councillor Wesolowski moved that a letter explaining that the lease rates were adjusted to reflect the current market value at the Airport be sent to the Peace Regional EMS.
MOTION CARRIED
1 9. Municipal District of Fairview.
Enclosed were the following letters from Reeve Walter Doll: a Funding request for new chalet.
This item was received for Council s information.
b Green Municipal Funding.
This item was received for Council s information.
20. S.P.C.A.
Enclosed was the first quarterly report from January 1, 2003 through March 31, 2003.
MOTION 03-05-36 Councillor Wesolowski moved that the S.P.C.A. be requested to make a more timely report to Council for the period ending June 30, 2003.
MOTION CARRIED
21. Peace Country Antique Railcar Club.
Enclosed was a letter from Doug MacDonald, Secretary Treasurer giving an update on the upcoming Raildays.
This item was received for Council s information.
22. Peace River Community Events Society.
Enclosed were the following requests from Chris Blake, President: a $5,000.00 sponsorship for PeaceFest 2003.
This item was dealt with under New Business item 10.
b Closure of Centennial Parking Lot from July 9 13, 2003 for the use of MF Wagner Shows.
MOTION 03-05-37 Councillor Wesolowski moved that permission be granted for the use
of Centennial Parking Lot for the MF Wagner Shows from July 9 13,, 2003 subject to the Peace River Community Svents Society working closely with Bylaw Enforcement regarding community concerns raised during previous carnivals. MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF PEACE RIVER HELD ON MONDAY MAY 26, 2003 AT 6:15 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS 11 MOTION CARRIED
23. Consulate General of Japan.
Enclosed was an information package for the 1 2th Annual Kurimoto Japanese Garden Spring Festival to be held June 14, 2003 in Edmonton.
This item was received for Council s information.
24. Communication Canada.
Enclosed was a letter from Bobbi Klettke, Communications Officer, Alberta Region announcing the new Sponsorship Program for 2003/04 fiscal year. Guide available upon request.
MOTION 03-05-38 Councillor Callioux moved that the Sponsorship Program for 2003/04 information be forwarded to the Alberta Winter Games Committee and FCSS.
MOTION CARRIED
25. Northern Sunrise County.
Enclosed was an invitation to the Grand Opening of the new Northern Sunrise County Administration Building, June 12, 2003.
This item was received for Council s information.
26. Peace Hope Society.
Enclosed was a letter from Mariette Grimble, President requesting that the month of May 2003 be proclaimed Organ & Tissue Donation Awareness month in the Town of Peace River.
This item was dealt with under Delegations, item no. 1.
27. Kinsmen Arena.
Enclosed was a letter from Karen Lundgard regarding a safety concern at the Arena.
This item was received for Council s information.
28. Centennial Parking Lot.
Enclosed was a letter from Sue Rankin regarding problems faced by her when the carnivals set up in the Centennial Parking Lot. MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF PEACE RIVER HELD ON MONDAY MAY 26, 2003 AT 6:15 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS 12
MOTION 03-05-39 Councillor Callioux moved that a letter be sent to Ms. Rankin indicating that a meeting with Chamber of Commerce is being arranged, acknowledging her concerns and asking for any other concerns she may have concerning the use of Centennial Parking Lot for Carnivals.
MOTION CARRIED
29. Alberta Water/Wastewater Partnership
Enclosed was a letter from John Engleder, P. Eng., Regional Director, Alberta Transportation announcing the approval of funding for the Update Feasibility Study for Raw Water Storage Facility for the Town of Peace River in the amount of $8,206.00.
MOTION 03-05-40 Councillor Martin moved that a letter be sent thanking Alberta Transportation for the approval of funding for the Update Feasibility Study for Raw Water Storage Facility Study in the amount of $8,206.00
MOTION CARRIED
30. Peace River & District Chamber of Commerce.
Enclosed was an entry form for the Chamber s Taking Care of Business Golf Tournament to be held on June 22, 2003.
This item was received for Council s information.
30. Alberta Rural Physician Action Plan.
Enclosed was a letter from Odell Olson, Chairman, announcing the selection of Dr. David P. Miller as the 2003 Alberta Rural Physician of distinction Award winner.
MOTION 03-05-41 Councillor Callioux moved that the Town of Peace River present Dr. Willox with a copy of the Peace Book and that copies of all the letters of support be put in a binder and presented to him in recognition of the Town s great respect for him.
MOTION CARRIED
31. Glenmary School.
Enclosed was a fax from Cathy MacAdam requesting permission to close River Road along Riverfront Park for the 2003 Grad Mass, Friday, May 30, 2003 from 6:30 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF PEACE RIVER HELD ON MONDAY MAY 26, 2003 AT 6:15 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS 13
MOTION 03-05-42 Councillor Wesolowski moved that permission be granted to Glenmary School Grad 2003 to close River Road in front of Riverfront Park from 6:30 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. May 30, 2003 for the Grad Mass subject to the RCMP, PREMS, Fire Department and Public Works being notified.
MOTION CARRIED
XI BYLAWS
1. Bylaw No. 1731: Town of Peace River Land Use Bylaw.
Presented for second and third readings.
This item was dealt with under Managers Reports number 4(a).
2. Bylaw No. 1738: A Bylaw of the Town of Peace River in the Province of Alberta to Repeal Bylaw No. 1 683 to Regulate and Control the Operation of Snow Vehicles.
Presented for required readings.
MOTION 03-05-43 Councillor Oberle moved that the required readings of Bylaw 1738 be tabled pending research of previous minutes.
MOTION CARRIED
3. Bylaw No. 1 739: A Bylaw of the Town of Peace River in the Province of Alberta to Authorize the Municipal Council to Incur an Indebtedness on Behalf of the Said Town by the Issuance of Debentures to the Alberta Municipal Financing Corporation for the Purpose of constructing a Water Main, Sewer Main and Related Works on 74th Street and 75 Street Between 87th Avenue and 98th Avenue.
Presented for required readings.
MOTION 03-05-44 Councillor Callioux moved first reading of Bylaw No. 1739.
MOTION CARRIED
MOTION 03-05-45 Councillor Wesolowski moved second reading of Bylaw No. 1739.
MOTION CARRIED
MOTION 03-05-46 Councillor Oberle moved that Bylaw No. 1739 be presented for third and final reading.
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF PEACE RIVER HELD ON MONDAY MAY 26, 2003 AT 6:15 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS 14
MOTION 03-05-47 Councillor Good moved third and final reading of Bylaw No. 1739.
MOTION CARRIED
XII COUNCILLOR S REPORTS
1. Councillor Callioux.
a Minutes of the Risk Management Committee Meeting held on April 30, 2003.
This item was received for Council s information.
b Draft Minutes of the Health and Safety Committee held on April 30, 2003.
This item was received for Council s information.
c AUMA President s Summit on Municipal Finance Garners New Ideas for Long Term Sustainability.
Councillor Callioux gave a verbal report to Council regarding the AUMA President s Summit on Municipal Finance.
B. INFORMATION TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC
XIII INFORMATION
1. Enclosed was a letter from the honourable Murray Smith, Minister, Alberta Energy responding to Mayor Mann s letter requesting a natural gas rebate program and 2 pamphlets titled Facts on Natural Gas.
2. Enclosed was a letter from Brian Reading, President, Chamber of Commerce announcing the endorsement of the shoppeaceriver.com.
3. Enclosed was a letter from Doug McCrea, President, Central Mountain Air, announcing their limited summer flight schedule for Peace River.
4. Enclosed was a news release announcing the launch of www.discoverthepeacecountry.com.
5. Enclosed were the following items from Health Region 8:
a New Name for the Health Region. MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF PEACE RIVER HELD ON MONDAY MAY 26, 2003 AT 6:15 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS 15
b Betty Kruse elected vice chair.
c Wrap Up Northwest Regional Transition Advisory Corn rnittee.
6. Enclosed was a copy of a letter sent by Alberta Transportation to PeaceFest 2003 regarding the request to close Highway 744 for PeaceFest 2003, July 1 2, 2003.
7. Enclosed was a News Release from the Alberta Solicitor General entitled Role of special constables on primary highways established.
8. Enclosed was a copy of a letter to Alberta Sustainable Resource Development, the honourable Mike Cardinal, regarding the Softwood Lumber Trade.
9. Enclosed were the following pin requests:
a Glenmary School 50 pins.
b CKUA Radio 2 pins.
c Colleen Toews 25 pins.
10. Enclosed was a newspaper article entitled Extra Hotel Tax Considered .
11. Enclosed was an invitation to attend the RCMP Musical Ride at the Peace River Agricultural Fairgrounds on June 27, 2003 at 6:30 pm.
1 2. Enclosed was a members advisory from the FCM entitled Agreement Between FCM and Railways is a Timely Response to Canadian Trends.
1 3. Enclosed was the Alberta Environment Water Supply Outlook Overview for May 9, 2003.
14. Enclosed was a copy of the Fairview College and NAIT Partnership Principals.
1 5. Enclosed was a letter from the Town of Canmore regarding the Alberta Municipal Finance Corporation.
16. Enclosed were the April 23, 30 and May 7, 2003 issues of Contact.
1 7. Enclosed were the site statistics for the Town Website for April 2003.
18. Enclosed was a article entitled Integration Works, The
development of an integrated emergency service fire and
EMS in Red Deer, Alberta . MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF PEACE RIVER HELD ON MONDAY MAY 26, 2003 AT 6:15 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS 16
19. Enclosed was the Spring 2003 issue of Northern Developments.
20. Enclosed was the April 2003 issue of Persons With Developmental Disabilities.
21. Enclosed was the Spring 2003 issue of the Peace River Shell Complex Newsletter.
22. Enclosed was a news article entitled Bringing It All Together .
23. Enclosed was an article from EnviroLine, March 31, 2003 issue entitled Regulators Reject Hydro Project on Peace River .
24. Enclosed was the May 2003 issue of Directions.
25. Enclosed was a newspaper article entitled Angry Tories get dereg review duty from Klein .
26. Enclosed was the May 14, 2003 issue of Contact!
27. Enclosed was a letter from the honourable Gene Zwozdesky, Minister of Community Development announcing $8,000.00 towards Riverfront Park.
MOTION 03-05-48 Councillor Callioux moved that a letter be sent to the Minister of Community Development thanking him for the $8,000.00 in funding for Riverfront Park.
MOTION CARRIED
28. Enclosed was a letter from Doug MacDonald, Secretary Treasurer, Peace River antique Railcar Club regarding the donation of the wash trailer and it s use as a wash trailer and kitchen.
29. Enclosed wais a postcard from the honourable Iris Evans, Minister Alberta Children s Services and AADAC regarding Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder.
30. Enclosed was a letter and year-end review from the Natural Resources Conservation Board. Year in Review 2002/03 available upon request.
8th, 31. Enclosed was a request to proclaim May 1 2 1 2003 National Nursing Week in the Town of Peace River.
32. Enclosed was a request to attend the Alberta Response Model Day on May 22, 2003 in Edmonton. MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF PEACE RIVER HELD ON MONDAY MAY 26, 2003 AT 6:15 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS 17
33. Enclosed was the May 2003 issue of The Edge.
34. Enclosed was a letter and information package regarding
Nations in Bloom A Forum for Canadian Municipalities .
35. Enclosed was a pamphlet from CMHC entitled Affordable Housing through Partnerships .
36. Enclosed was a letter from John Engleder, P. Eng. Regional director, Alberta Transportation announcing the approval of the Streets Improvement Program for the year 2003/04.
37. Enclosed was a letter from Gerard Gravel, Infrastructure Technologist, regarding the approval of cost share funding for the Raw Water Storage Facility and Reservoir 475 Feeder Main projects.
38. Enclosed were 2 articles from the Mile Zero News regarding Glacier Power and PREMS.
Councillor Oberle left the meeting at 10:30 p.m.
MOTION 03-05-49 Councillor Wesolowski moved that the meeting adjourn briefly at 10:31 p.m.
MOTION CARRIED
The meeting was called back to order at 10:45 p.m.
MOTION 03-05-50 Councillor Martin moved the meeting go in-camera at 10:45 p.m.
MOTION CARRIED
MOTION 03-05-5 1 Councillor Good moved that the meeting return to regular meeting at 11:45 p.m.
MOTION CARRIED
MOTION 03-05-52 Councillor Callioux moved that Northern Assessment be requested to change the assessment code on Lot 16, Block 2, Plan 5255BD from Vacant Commercial to Municipality.
MOTION CARRIED
XIV MOTION TO ADJOURN
MOTION 03-05-53 Councillor Martin moved that the meeting be adjourned at 11:50 p.m.
MOTION CARRIED MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE 1DUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF PEACE RIVER HELD ON MONDAY M,kIY 26, 2003 AT 6:15 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS / / 18
Lorne G. ann, Mayor
Kelly Bunn, CAO MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 1
Mayor MANN Bylaw 1731, urn it s a recorded proceeding and you re free to make your comments, ah, available for everyone is of course the Land Use Bylaw, all planning documents from the ah, any information that you require is available and ah... the proposal is first to have Development Officer Stuart Wraight give a presentation. There has been a public information meeting, all of Council is here and ah.... As I say, it s a recorded hearing and the purpose is to get submissions and input in order that we may discuss and debate the matter and come to a decision at the next council meeting that the transcript is available. So with that I welcome everyone, again apologize and you can take it Stuart.
Stuart WRAIGHT Thanks Lorne, ah... first I ll start by outlining the documents that I d like to refer to this evening. First the Municipal Government Act, chapter 26 and amendments thereto, dated January 2003. The Town of Peace River Municipal Development Plan number 1 698 and associated maps. The Town of Peace River Land Use Bylaw number 1 550 and associated maps, that s the existing Land Use Bylaw. A detailed geotechnical assessment prepared by Thurber Consultants in 1 986. The Town of Peace River Land Use Bylaw number 1 731, which is the draft Land Use Bylaw that we are discussing this evening. Ah... in addition the Town of Peace River Westview area structure plan, Bylaw No. 1631. Ah.. Highway 2 West Peace River Interchange detailed planning study final report prepared for Alberta Infrastructure by Stantec Consulting Ltd. in March 2001. And....
Mayor MANN Stuart if I might just interrupt. Are you able to hear Stuart s presentation members of the public? OK, sorry for the interruption Stuart.
Stuart WRAIGHT The Highway 2, Town of Peace River Bridge Twinning Functional Planning Study and Plans and finally Town of Peace River Information Brochure dated 2002. So before I just move into the issues about the Land Use Bylaw and the changes ah.. proposed, just like to make reference to the notification process that has brought us to this stage. In May 2002 there was a notification to every property owner who pays taxes advising of MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 2 changes to the Land Use Bylaw and that s actually urn.. available for Council, this leaflet that ah.. was sent out with the taxes in 2002. The first reading of this Land Use Bylaw No. 1731 was given by Council January 13, 2003. ..and ah... as Council will appreciate, the idea was to table the docurnent and start the advertising process and ah. .to seek feedback in terms of any proposed changes to the document. On March the 1 the Record Gazette included and advertisement, ah sorry and article urn... relating to the Land Use Bylaw just indicating that the potential changes there may be and for people to ah.. literally sort of be aware that there could be changes that may affect them. Then through the process itself, urn... a copy of the Land Use Bylaw and associated maps was sent to the Holy Catholic Regional Division No. 37, Peace River School Division No. 10, Northland School Division No. 61, in addition a copy was sent to Northern sunrise County, the M.D. of Peace No. 1 35, the M.D. of Northern Lights No. 22, additional copies were then sent to Alberta Transportation, Casey Realty and Rernax, Peace River & district chamber of Commerce, Peace River construction Association and also um.. a copy was sent to Bill Paul of Mathieu Hryniuk ..ah.. following his request. .ah.. actually a couple of years back, that when the document was finally urn.. going forward to Council. .ah... he had a client interested in the issues relating to the Bridgeview
Industrial Estate. Urn.. to date .. ah.. the responses that urn.. have been received have come from Home Hardware, urn.. Ontario today regarding changes along the riverfront and I believe there may be urn. .um.. Murray Hanson from Home Hardware here this evening that will want to speak to ah.. proposed changes. Ah... Mike Lovsin came forward with his store manager last week at the public information session. I ve had ah.. response from Ian and Peggy Gardner regarding a lot that they own, Richard Armstrong ah.. inquired about possible dual zoning for his business or ah.. his father s business Armstrong Construction on the Westhill. Ah.. a lady by the name of Wendy Keye from Delta B.C., who owns 2 quarter sections within the town and Pierrette Morgan MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 3
who owns Advantage Carefree Travel at 10601 103 Street. Last week ah.. a public information session was held urn.. on the Wednesday evening. It was notified, or advertised should I say, two week s previously, April 1 5th and then on April 22 in the local newspaper and a meeting was held on April the 23w. Also a notice has been posted on the Town s website of the public information session and public hearing. .ah.. including the text for the Bylaw that s been provided online, we couldn t provide the maps online just because of the size of them, urn.. that wouldn t have worked. Ah.. copies of the bylaw and associated maps have been available at the Town office, the public information session was held, as I mentioned previously, on Wednesday, April 23rd at the Catholic Conference Centre, ah.. 2 people attended that information session, Mike Lovsin and his store manger. The notice of this public hearing urn.. has appeared in the Record Gazette for the past 3 weeks, April 1 5th April 22nd, and April 29th, being yesterday. Urn.. in addition just due to the poor attendance at the public information session last week, I did contact ah.. the local newspaper and asked if they could maybe include some for m of article ah.. just really to draw attention again to this public hearing and I noted that this was included in this weeks publication ah.. dated Tuesday, April And finally, advertising has run Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday of this week, four times each day on CKYL and KIXX. So that just will um.. confirm the notification process that s been undertaken. In terms of the Land Use Bylaw now and urn.. the changes that are proposed, firstly, um.. I d just like to briefly mention why the review has been undertaken. Ah.. the provincial requirements through the Municipal Government Act state that a bylaw must be consistent with the Municipal Development Plan. Ah... all of the plans that urn.. a town, municipality, city, whatever it may be has, ah.. must be consistent with each other. As Council will be aware in March 2001 the Municipal Development Plan was adopted and it has taken since that time to ah.. actually go through this very detailed MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 4 document ah.. and with everything involved to come up with this to try and be consistent with the intentions of the Municipal Development Plan. Ah.. just ah.. for everyone s information, the Land Use Bylaw, it s the day to day document that regulates development. Um.. this can include new buildings, extensions to existing buildings, signage, or a need for change of use of land or buildings. The Land Use Bylaw effectively divides the Town into districts or zones that ah.. generally speaking would be residential, commercial, industrial and community and I will go into those in a little bit more detail shortly. And within each district there s permitted and discretionary uses and for everyone s information, those that may not be aware, permitted uses mean that urn. .if they are listed as permitted, ah.. if a proposal meets all of the provisions of the Land Use Bylaw then the municipality must approve the proposal in front of it. If it s a discretionary use, it does mean that the development authority, whether that s the Development Officer, the Municipal Planning Commission or Subdivision and Development Appeal Board, has the discretion whether that s approved or refused. Urn .. and just ah.. what I ll try and do now, obviously, for the people here this evening, it s likely that they are going to be looking in terms of specific issues they want to talk about, urn.. as I mentioned a little bit earlier, this is um.. a very sort of detailed and lengthy document, it has been available like I mentioned through the notification process, so I wouldn t intend going through section by section, to go through everything. What I d like to do is just urn.. briefly run through the sections or some of the sections urn.. and then if I can draw everyone s attention to the plans on the side that urn... I finish off with and then urn., after answering any questions from Council, obviously they d like to pass it over to .. to the urn.. members of the public or business community that have come along this evening. So ah.. the Land Use Bylaw has 39 sections proposed in it. Sections 1 through 10 are definitions, um... together with general duties and administration, urn.. for processing applications dealing with land use issues. MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 5
Sections 11 and 1 2 are general and special land use provisions, urn.. I d like to just briefly refer to urn.. general land use provisions and signs because this has been an issue that s come up urn.. over the last couple of years um.. certainly it s intended for the most part that the signage regulations will remain the same in terms of urn.. permits required for fascia signs, for roof top signs, for free, sorry for free standing signs, um.. one of the key changes that is proposed is that an out of town business would be allowed to advertise within the town provided that business has a business licence and also gets development permit approval. Urn.. the existing Land Use Bylaw s been in place since 1 994, there has been pressures on the Town in terms of out of town business that want s to advertise and urn.. it is recommended that if they do pay a business licence and get approval urn.. that they be given the right to advertise within the town limits. Ah.. there will also be a requirement urn.. or proposed that urn.. signs be maintained in a good state of repair and urn.. that s actually following through from the existing bylaw, just that urn.. if there are signs that urn.. fall into disrepair or are disregarded, no longer needed, no longer used, urn.. the Town has the opportunity to approach the urn.. property owner to ask what the intentions are for that sign and whether it s needed any longer. Ah.. just to stress a comment projecting signs
ah.. they ve been in the bylaw since 1 994, they are permitted subject to permits being issued, the reason I raise that is that there have been a number of comments of the past few years, since I ve been here, just about urn.. whether for example, downtown businesses can have projecting signs and, yes, that is included in the Land Use Bylaw. Portable signs, it s intended that urn.. it s broken down actually, this has been where the key urn.. discussions have taken place about portable signs. Ah.. the idea is that generally portable signs, there s going to be urn.. proposed a set back requirement and if
you just bear with me for a moment . .unintelligible. . .ah, there we go, urn.. OK, so portable signs is actually intended that there s going to be separation distance between each sign. The issue that had actually come up MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 6 and it was subject to an appeal, was urn.. that urn.. a property that rnay have a larger site frontage, the existing Land Use Bylaw just states that urn.. signs urn.. that you are only allowed 1 portable sign per business, so it is intended that this will actually be increased so that the number of signs permitted will be allowed subject to the size of the frontage. Ah, it s intended also that there will be a separate section urn.. relating to signs downtown. Ah, basically because they cover signs on town sidewalks. Ah.. what we want to try and achieve ah.. with Council s agreement, is that ah.. particularly say for main street and those areas that yes we certainly would like to encourage urn. .(unknown) portable sign per premises but that it s located sort of in coordination instead of having sort of a variation of locations of signs on the sidewalk to try and keep them in one area and it s suggested through the draft Land Use Bylaw that that area is urn.. adjacent to the curb basically where urn.. the traffic light s are, where the Street lights are, where any garbage containers are in that area instead of having them straight in the middle of the sidewalk. So there general proposals relating to signs, um... one issue to bring forward um.. something that is proposed to be changed completely is reference to Gravel Pits. Urn.. that the intent is that they be rernoved from the Land Use Bylaw as a permitted or a discretionary use. In terms of the size of the town and ah.. the potential future growth, ah.. it s felt that we are very limited in terms of land we do have available urn.. gravel pits naturally of an industrial nature, urn.. are considered um.. maybe sort of not the most appropriate to be located within the town setting. I d just briefly like to draw Council s attention to section 1 3, that s on page 63, and this is a reference to same or similar uses, urn... what we have tried to do where ever possible is be flexible. It is very difficult, ah.. a Land Use Bylaw is obviously trying to look day to day but looking ahead to the future to say what uses may be proposed. Obviously what s in place at the moment urn.. .where ever possible we ve tried to be more flexible with ah.. a definition so that ah.. it can give the opportunity to myself as a Development Officer or the MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 7
Municipal Planning Commission or the Appeal Board, to consider a proposal and to say whether it actually fits into a category. So urn.. that s actually brought forward from the existing or urn the 1 994 Land Use Bylaw. Ah, now to move on to the actual districts themselves, sections 1 4 to 26 all relate to residential zonings and I don t really intend to go through those at all and obviously once urn.. the discussions are opened up for the public, then urn.. if there are any comments or residential issues, they can be brought forward and then that can be addressed. Section 27 in the Land Use Bylaw that relates to the prirnary commercial district, urn.. traditionally the heart of a town, a municipality, the primary commercial, urn.. in this case, it relates to the downtown core, the intent is to review the use of the primary commercial district from the existing Land Use Bylaw to rnake it smaller, generally covering main street and leading onto the riverfront. Ah... the reason for that is urn.. that urn.. historically there s been a large cornrnercial area downtown urn.. obviously there s residential areas around the downtown and that has caused problems in the past. Urn... having areas zoned particularly for comrnercial purposes, so um.. within the primary commercial district, urn.. the general change proposed there wouldn t be provision for a workshop used by tradespersons um... it s discretionary under the existing bylaw, ah.. this would remove a church, remove an autobody repair shop, urn, hardware supply outlets and building supply outlets would be classed as retail stores in the new Land Use Bylaw, urn.. and also just for reference purposes that there can be residential accommodation above shops downtown subject to all permits being in place, obviously that would include the building permit and any permits required but again it s a question that s been raised over the last couple of years, whether urn.. urn.. accommodation above the ground floor or first floor storey can be used for residential accommodation. Um.. moving on, the highway commercial district, that s on the Westhill, the intent is to keep that area for that purpose, urn.. the idea is the primary commercial downtown is for the smaller MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 8
commercial uses that don t need large lots or don t need car parking provision, urn.. and this follows in line with the Municipal Development Plan approved in 2001. So the highway commercial district, the intent is urn.. reference to retail stores, that there will be a definition stating retail store large in the new Land Use Bylaw, urn.. and the idea there is that it doesn t specify any floor space provisions but basically states that that is for stores that need larger areas of land and urn.. have larger areas for car parking. Section 29 is the Comrnercial Shopping Centre district, at the moment the minimum site area required for development is 4 hectares, 9.88 acres and this basically covers the area around the IGA. There has been difficulties dealing with the Land Use Bylaw and applications urn.. for a few years now in this area because um.. for example Tim Horton s, urn.. MacDonalds, urn.. the bank that is located there in terms of the original Land Use Bylaw the one in place at the moment, they should have had that 9.88 acres for any type of development, so the intent is to take those businesses and put them into the highway commercial district and then in terms of the C-3, the actual shopping center district is to identify for urn... potentially for a shopping mall, if that were to happen, it s been sort of identified for that area for many years and also to locate the box store type developments there, so urn.. again, those that aren t looking for smaller space downtown would look at box store development urn.. possibly in the region of the IGA. Urn... the next area touched is Commercial, Neighborhood Commercial and that s just continuing an existing theme. Urn .. that relates to a neighborhood that may want something like ah.. ah.. a gas bar, it may want urn.. some sort of retail use just to serve the immediate neighborhood. Urn.. an example of that that s been in place for a number of years is at the north end, urn.. with the gas bar there and the bowling alley, that area has been zoned neighborhood commercial, so it s intended to
keep that designation in the . .the proposed Land Use Bylaw. MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 9
Section 32, Riverfront Development district, now this is the area that urn... basically relates to the urn.. east side of the river and it extends from just south of the bridge and runs along, comes along the riverfront and urn.. goes down as far as the Riverdrive mall. I will mention this in a little bit more detail, just the area once I get onto the maps. Light industrial designation, that s section 33, that s for industrial related businesses, urn... it s going to keep the same designation as the existing bylaw urn... certain areas have been identified that are used for industrial purposes and they ll again be identified on the maps. Ah.. section 34, Mixed Industrial Business district, urn.. this is the area that is just this side of the river again, urn.. it s from the Town Shop up to Glenmary School. Ah.. that area where you have got a mix of uses because of the potential for the second bridge coming across urn.. the river ah... it s felt that this area should basically be left alone and urn.. it probably in terms of sort of rezoning anything like residential or any other type of usage urn.. because of a second bridge sort of overpowering that area or part of that area, then it s felt that urn. .um.. the existing uses for the most part would be appropriate to remain there. Ah.. Section 37, is urn.. Direct Control, and that just relates to certain properties that have been identified, urn.. there s some that specifically have been identified, the old forestry property at the south end, the old hospital site at the south end and the existing RCMP Detachment at the north end, also islands and some riverfront locations urn... for reference purposes and for information, the direct control, that basically means that there are no permitted or discretionary uses that are specified literally urn. .um.. if there is a proposal there it comes forward directly for Council s attention and Council makes a descision on that basis and there is normally a public hearing process associated with that. Ah.. I ve mentioned 3 properties there and they have been picked out because urn.. of the interest and the potential for the development of those properties. Ah.. it s been wide ranging in term s of the urn.. the actual MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 10
inquiries that have been received, particularly for the . .the forestry building, so urn... it s difficult to tie that down to exactly what s proposed so the intention is that it s urn.. it s direct control for Council decide to decide if and when sornething cornes forward. Ah... the reference earlier in the urn.. docurnents to the urn.. highway related plans, the reason for that was that urn.. with Council s approval for the final docurnent, there s a nurnber of occasions certainly for Westhill developrnent, Highway Cornrnercial in particular, and also obviously anywhere to the north of the existing Peace River bridge, as to where the second bridge is going to go and where the interchange works are going to take place. The idea would be that urn., the docurnents that have been provided to date and if they are changed they can be referred to, they have been included in the Land Use Bylaw for reference purposes. Ah.. the reason for that is to give people an idea of what may be happening urn.. because there is always potential conflict where someone may come forward for a permit from the Town and urn... we deal with the permit and then just ask them to get all other necessary permits and obviously where ever the second bridge is going to be located, the interchange works, we just want to try and have that reference ideally in the Land Use Bylaw and say look this is the plan that is in place so far but to make people aware that urn.. when they go for any other permits that are required so it would be for reference purposes, it wouldn t be to decide upon an application because that would be the decision of Alberta Transportation in terms of whether they would issue a development permit for ah.. a business located in proxirnity to the interchange works or the second bridge. So, what I will do now is urn.. I ll briefly just go through the plans I have here, larger versions of the key areas and probably Council might want to just come around to this side so that everyone can see.
O.K. so sheet 1, the urn.. the first map, urn.. that we ve got, this is the north end of town, urn.. where you see hatching, it s areas that either the designation is proposed to be changed or there s something that has MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 11
been identified in those areas. So urn.. the key part of this is actually urn.. for the most part, this area is proposed to remain the same. This is a residential area, ah... it s at the north end of town, just behind Good Shepherd School. Um.. it s been zoned for a number of years for residential purposes. The questions were raised just in terms of the location of this area, in relation to the Wastewater Treatment Plant further to the north, back towards the town s north boundary. I did speak to public health on that and they have no specific set backs or requirements urn.. for residential properties and I spoke to Alberta Environment and they indicated that they look for a 300 meter distance setback from a wastewater treatment plant for residential purposes. So urn.. it would tie in with that requirement. This I must stress has been in the existing bylaw, the intent was just to take it forward but with a different zoning designation just the way that the residential uses have moved around. So generally, everything s the same. I don t know if I m going to capture this on another plan, so I ll mention it now. Um.. this is Chrysler TriStar, this area here, urn.. one of the requests from um.. Ian and Peggy Gardner was that they have a residential mobile home park designation ah.. just below where the mobile home park is, where the um.. I would assume it was the original manager s office or accommodation is located, there s actually a car lot facility being operated there, so they ve asked that consideration be given by Council to actually be included in that, in urn.. the changes to the Land Use Bylaw. So that s one of the changes that s actually been requested down there.
O.K. paper rustling, unintelligible.... To the , to the downtown area and urn.. some changes here certainly. The primary.
Councillor WESO OWSKI: Excuse me Stuart, where s the bridge there?
Stuart WRAIGHT The bridge will be just up and there you go, just up in here. There s the railway and that s the bridge. So ah.. changes proposed to the commercial district downtown MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 12
and the designations, the primary commercial district um.. as mentioned previously is significantly reduced toi cover literally um.. this is where the Travellers is and then coming down main street, um.. and then just expanding out to cover towards the riverfront, so it s to try to reduce the primary commercial district, um.. the area around the primary commercial district, this is the area that was previously zoned as um.. commercial transitional. The idea behind that zoning was that urn.. let s say if you had a residential use, ah.. the intent was for the whole of this downtown area to change to commercial use. Now the problem has been that urn.. since the previous Land Use Bylaw in 1 994 obviously that demand hasn t urn.. come forward. So, we have a real mix down here of residential and commercial uses. Ah.. for the most part, certainly it seems that ah.. those type of uses can get on side by side, so urn.. the intended zoning would be commercial residential where it s seen obviously with downtown revitalization with efforts there, it is irnportant to bring residential activity downtown as well. Ah. .that was a reference previously to the primary comrnercial district where you can have
accornmodation above your , your ground floor or first storey, however it s referred to, and also for the surrounding areas, um.. ah.. there have certainly been difficulties in the past with residential accommodation or residential properties certainly in this area where urn.. urn... because of the commercial transitional it has caused problems for them. Ah... in terms of sort of, urn.. continuing in that sort of area, so the proposal is to keep commercial and residential for the most part in the proposed Land Use Bylaw. The intent would be that just about every use would be discretionary because there would always be that situation where um.. you ve got to take into account that you rnay end up with a residential use obviously next door to a commercial use and um.. just judging the urn.. the impact of any development in a particular area. Urn.. obviously looking out in terms of sort of irnpact on existing residents or putting a resident in the middle of ah.. an established commercial area. So that s why those uses are discretionary. So that it would MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 13
allow the development authority the opportunity to say well yes this will fit in or there may be concerns here. The other area proposed um.. in line with the Municipal Development Plan intention, um.. key areas for riverfront activity, this is proposed as Riverfront Development District, basically from just under the bridge here, urn.. and this would be Kal Tire in this area, so coming from here, to include the Co-op building, ah.. and then businesses along the riverfront itself. The intention is to actually propose that for riverfront development. In your Land Use Bylaw it indicates the types of uses um.. proposed to be permitted as discretionary and obviously there may be some questions about that, or comments that come up later. So, that s sort of generally the area, a key area for the downtown that s proposed for changes. Urn.. down here, direct control, this is the hospital site and this is the forestry site, which was referred to about urn.. paper rustling Council s decision. Ah.. and just urn... for reference on the west side of the river, because it s on this sheet, this is the old gravel pit, this is the ski hill here, this had been zoned a residential mobile home park, the intent is a residential village estate, that is extremely flexible in nature, rnore flexible that a residential mobile home park, urn.. and urn.. to basically take advantage of the location and urn.. potential for development that can overlook the river. paper rustling certainly located in a good location to the west hill and to Shaftesbury paper rustling. O.K. this is urn.. actually down at Shaftesbury Estates, urn.. the areas here, the island is direct control. Certainly the proposal is that if anyone comes forward with development on the island, because of the environmental issues ah. .ah.. certainly it should be a matter that we believe is that it should go forward to Council for consideration. Residential 1 D as it is termed, no change to the actual zoning from the 1 994 bylaw. Ah.. this area is Shaftesbury Estates that back onto the river, urn.. because there was ah.. ah the study done by the Thurber Consultants that I referred to earlier about potential urn.. riverbank erosion, urn.. this area has a specific zone in the zoning because of the changes in the MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 14
residential districts and this has moved up from residential 1A to residential 1D. paper rustling
Unintelligible question from audience.
Stuart WRAIGHT: Westbrooke, it s not actually urn.. on this one Lorne,
that s urn.. something that s because .. out. .out this area, I might as well mention it now. Ah.. that urn.. the intention is for the Westbrooke area, around there from Saddleback down to Shaftesbury where development would allow urn.. the proposal is to rezone that from urn.. agricultural reserve to residential 1A, which urn.. basically is for single detached dwelling units. The idea behind that is to try and promote residential development, be more proactive, urn.. with what we want to see in development. Agricultural reserve basically has that designation to say that urn.. it s agricultural land that can be reserved for any sort of urn.. other type use that the Town decides upon. And the intention is to be more proactive and say OK, I mean it s... personally, professionally speaking, it s a wonderful area there between Saddleback and Shaftesbury urn.. as if you re sort of in rural land urn.. right within there... sort of the the main area of Town. The intention is that urn.. we try and promote residential activity in that area instead of any paper rustling commercial, industrial related paper rustling. OK. Moving on, this is urn..on the west side of the river. This is Bridgeview Industrial Estate, again a key area identified in the Municipal Development Plan in 2001. Ah.. from the last couple of years at least, urn... the most sought after areas for development primarily has been Shaftesbury Estates urn.. fronting, backing onto the river and urn.. then Saddleback Ridge. Urn.. this has huge potential urn.. over looking the river, it s high up, urn.. seeing it sort of corning through the town urn.. the proposal is that this goes to residential usage. This would be a significant change in this area. Urn.. the idea being that urn. .this is the area that potentially the second bridge would come along somewhere around in this area, so urn.. there s some existing uses that would remain in place urn.. and then it would go to single detached MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 15 residential development urn.. fronting onto the river. Ah.. medium density R-3 designation situated behind this Id the railway track coming through. Medium density behind urn.. because then it merges into urn.. a Mobile Home Park. Then there is residential 1 -A again, urn... further up in this area. Urn.. final part on this document is urn.. this is just the Fairview College site and urn.. just to give that a designation, so urn.. that s Community. A number of people asked whether that s commercial, it s actually COM paper rustling. OK. And finally sheet 5, this is the west hill, urn.. this area here this is the IGA, this area, Alberta Transportation has potential plans to bring in a road through this way so the idea is that this urn.. this is going to be our Shopping Mall, Shopping Centre district, that this had been zoned Agricultural Reserve, the idea that this would become C-3 for box store development and larger store development and hopefully take benefit from the road coming through this way. Urn.. this is urn.. industrial development here, M-1 is industrial. This is the Highway Commercial
development on both sides of the road. Urn ... this takes in Tim Horton s, McDonalds and then moving along all the way up to Weberville Road is Highway Commercial. Same on the other side urn.. is Highway Commercial and again this is urn.. the area in front of the hospital. This area of reference again was rnade earlier by the Westview Area Structure Plan. This area has urn.. been zoned, oh sorry, has been identified for this area structure plan. It has been included or had been in the existing Land Use Bylaw for Direct Control, just so that any use that comes forward urn.. is dealt with by Council. Town staff had a meeting with the urn.. the developer, the owner of these lands, urn.. just urn.. as basically for confirmation, urn... is the person still interested in the areas identified in the area structure plan. He agreed that generally yes but specifically he was looking for highway commercial development, so urn.. the idea would be that this would be highway commercial along in front of the hospital, this is the hospital site, ah.. this would be zoned for light industrial and industrial purposes and then through the area structure plan the intent for residential MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 16 type development um.. R-1A, single detached units, R-3 s medium density units, urn.. and because of the proposed changes that urn.. I ve been through here, these are the areas.. there s some areas identified for industrial purposes, this is the area of Sanjel urn. .um.. Weaver Welding, all in this area to remain industrial purposes. Then the area here, again purposed to be extended for industrial purposes, this is going down between urn.. urn.. Saddleback and Shaftesbury to be the residential areas and the other industrial area is proposed, oh sorry, is to remain the same. That s been coming up Weberville road urn.. and the Parenteau Subdivision, I believe to the north here so that will remain as industrial and as I mentioned earlier, on urn.. the east side of the river, ah.. for the area to the north of the bridge between the town shop and urn.. Glenmary School, as mixed industrial business type activity. So, there are the sort of significant changes proposed. Obviously, there are going to issues that are going to come up in terms of say, existing industrial businesses, urn.. and also for exarnple with the amount of highway commercial land that we have available, certainly it s something that urn.. I d. ..l d report to Council just to say urn... for consideration is that urn.. that when we promote more and more for industrial activity in the industrial areas, there s going to come a time when there s going to be demand for more land, I rn sure, for industrial purposes and also for highway commercial, which we are very limited with what now we have available. Obviously, urn.. for this urn.. this area here that s available for highway cornrnercial but urn.. if and when the Town does experience urn.. urn.. the continued activity then there is that urn.. to actually bear in mind. So I ve just got a couple of cornrnents to just finish off with if Council wants to return and then I ll be ready for questions and then open up to the public. OK, so just. .1 want to go back urn.. a couple of years first with the Municipal Development Plan and that reference. Obviously, there were issues and concerns at that time about urn... cornrnercial activity and what impact it would have and urn.. preventing development corning into town. MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 17
Since the development plan has been in place, town staff and the um.. urn.. Municipal Planning Commission and Appeal Board have had limited involvement in terms of urn.. dealing with activity urn.. and issues, which is ideally what we want to see. Ah.. the idea is that urn.. the smaller units naturally or smaller businesses look to go downtown, obviously that s part and parcel of the downtown revitalization, which we want to encourage and the box stores or the largest development ends up on the west hill. So, that sort of ah.. a general statement and certainly I m pleased to say that we haven t had an issue where we ve had to turn anyone down over the last 2 years where they ve wanted to locate. Urn.. in terms of the development process, we have had a great response urn.. from developers, realtors and the general public, urn.. making initial inquiries urn.. like I mentioned earlier, we try to be flexible, try and work with people, urn.. the difficulty is that urn.. we ve got, laws, bylaws, they are in place whatever is decided from here on by Council with the Land Use Bylaw, urn.. as staff we have to work with those bylaws, it certainly is appreciated when people come forward and just ask us or inquire and say what they want to do, and certainly, wherever possible, we do try and work with people then. Ah.. and finally, I would just like urn.. to mention that urn.. in terms of any zoning changes, that urn.. anything that s proposed through this Land Use Bylaw or whatever Council finally decides upon, it doesn t affect existing business as it stands. Obviously I ve been through the notification process and the tirnes, the articles have been in the newspaper and the brochure that went out in 2002, saying that there can be potential changes from zoning because obviously if you ve got an existing business then you can continue operating and you can change ownership, urn.. for as long as you want. The issues come if you actually try to change the use of the building to a different type of use that s not then in
accordance with the . .the bylaw, the Land Use Bylaw that s in effect or if you want to expand or improve your premises that are existing, urn.. then urn.. in terms or in accordance with the Municipal Government Act, urn.. if a MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 18
bylaw has changed, a Land Use Bylaw, that urn.. you can t actually replace damaged or extend buildings if they don t accord with the current Land Use Bylaw in place. So what happens for any changes that are finally decided upon by Council, they do become legally existing, non conforming uses. Ah.. certainly we have a number of those in Town. The intent for the changes proposed, that we actually urn.. ah.. we move the town forward urn.. we want to sort of just basically identify the areas ideally like I mentioned generally for residential, for commercial, for industrial use and to keep our easy improvement to the riverfront urn.. for the benefit of the community at large and for also for tourists coming into the community or into the area generally. And also, business opportunities that people come and look at our town so, urn.. that s really urn.. summing up the major changes proposed to the Land Use Bylaw. So I ll finish there and if Council wants to ask any questions.
Mayor MANN: Thank, thank you Stuart. I commend you on your work, your efforts and urn.. your expertise and urn.. when it comes with planning, your vision and training has been of great assistance. I commend you on getting the information out and your accessibility to the public and ah.. as I said, assistance to Council. This is a planning document and we ve moved ah.. from the general municipal plan to now the bylaw, Land Use Bylaw that ah.. deals with urn.. the more nuts and bolts, the general to the specific. What ah.. you touched briefly on existing and current uses, now the continuity of the business or is it the continuity of the owner. Like if the existing business is running, it s an interruption of the business itself that ah.. triggers the use?
Stuart WRAIGHT Exactly, it s the business itself, it s not if it changes ownership, urn.. that s not a land use ration. If the same business is running from the same property, that can continue urn.. as long as that business is in operation, urn.. to use ah. .ah.. one example, if you ve got um.. I don t know, you ve got residential property that s rented and it s not zoned for residential purposes, it can keep MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 19
changing owners, however, if someone then comes in and says right we want to operate a commercial business from this, then it s changing zoning, it s changing the actual use of the property which then has to fall in line with the Land Use Bylaw, so it s not an issue about ownership, changing owners and I think actually to add there Lorne is that if urn.. if a property does remain vacant for 6 months or more in accordance with the Municipal Government Act then it has to fall in line with the um.. um.. Land Use Bylaw. So that is something certainly for consideration because of properties that do sit empty for a number of months if not years, that there is potential impact there immediately by way of the decisions on this document.
Mayor MANN: And. .ah.. assuming a the business is in a zone that has had a change, and um.. substantial, urn.. it s more than substantial renovations that triggers the urn.. require for conformance. What are the options should there be total objection to that urn.. and ah.. what is the process for the case to be made that urn.. the planning, the Land Use Bylaw should be changed? There is... what options remain to that owner?
Stuart WRAIGHT Urn.. after this evening and the consideration by Council and decision on the Land Use Bylaw urn.. any urn.. district there can be an application for rezoning tape change from there it goes through the process of urn.. development permit application, it comes forward to the development authority being myself, the Municipal Planning Commission and if there are concerns then about decisions on an actual urn.. permit application that can then go forward to the Subdivision and Development Appeal Board. But urn.. this is the problem, I d certainly stress that it urn.. it is a very difficult and complicated document because who knows literally sort of what s around the corner generally, what anyone s thinking, what they may want to do. I mentioned about a few people that have come forward with comments or suggestions urn.. of what they are thinking of urn.. which we tried to incorporate where ever possible in this MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 20
document. Urn.. to cover every use urn.. isn t possible, I would say that it s urn.. like trying to read the thoughts of people that are going to be maybe 2, 3 5 years down the line. Urn.. but urn.. going back to my previous comment, urn. .the idea of what we are trying to get to is that we have urn.. areas urn.. to protect people basically, if you were living in a residential area, chances are that urn.. you would want protection from sorneone that s operating maybe a commercial industrial business for the most part, certainly in the established urn.. residential areas, north end, south end and on the west side of the river, that s generally the intent of the Land Use Bylaw to say O.K. let s keep uses in certain areas urn.. .and lets protect those interests and make it encouraging for whether it s residents or business looking to come into the municipality to say yes you can establish your business here and know that surrounding you there will be a certain standard of development.
Mayor MANN: So if it doesn t ultimately fit into the existing plan at that point then the process is to amend the plan and make it consistent. That s the option at that point, correct?
Stuart WRAIGHT At that point, what would happen if it doesn t fit in is that urn.. this is urn.. so to speak the freebie where people can come forward and say if they ve got obviously issues to discuss, otherwise, if they ve got ideas, that was the encouragement to let us know because you get a freebie. Otherwise any individual business, organization can actually corne forward urn.. it s a $500.00 fee that is a difference for rezoning and urn.. then we go through the process where we advertise it in the local newspaper for 2 weeks and then we actually have a public hearing before yourselves as Council and then you make a decision on whether rezoning is appropriate or not.
Mayor MANN: Alright, urn.. so there are options and urn.. in planning documents. What is your recornrnendation on the future urn.. for review. Obviously there s obviously a bit of ongoing reactive review urn.. as far as review of the MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 21
general plan and review of the future use of the Land Use Bylaw, what do you recommend?
Stuart WRAIGHT: Um.. we looked at urn.. to try to put it in place between um.. they say ideally 5 years for a document, that it should receive a significant review, um.. as I mentioned earlier in my presentation that um.. in terms of municipal development plan, I know that at that time there was concerns from urn.. certain parts of the community, just about the intent of the plan and the impact it may have. Urn.. through discussions there s been some issues certainly that have gone to appeal urn.. and urn.. I would confirm here and now that they related to signage and we ve looked to try and address as far as possible. Generally, um.. you do find that businesses do seem to fit in with the intent of the plan, urn.. the Municipal Planning Commission urn.. whenever I need to meet with thern urn.. a statement recently was that urn it seems that things were going in accordance with the municipal development plan, we would look ideally at around about urn.. a 3 year period to say OK let s have a review to see if we are still on the right tracks. Obviously now this is urn.. significant in terrns of this document because it urn whatever s decided by Council will bring the 2 docurnents in line and urn.. the municipal developrnent plan is for the general future vision, how one would like to see the town grow urn.. generally speaking. This document as I mentioned earlier is the day to day, to say OK this is how we re going to get there. So it s very detailed, very cornprehensive, but certainly I d stress, as I have all along and urn.. my board members um.. speak to as I said it 2 years ago that um.. I m not in the position to say I m going to turn anyone away from the town or any developrnent even where I have opportunities I can do that through the municipal government act, each time I will always take urn.. an application forward to the planning cornrnission in the first instance because then urn.. the applicant has the right to go speak to the planning cornrnission and then after that they have the right to go and speak to the appeal board if they don t agree with the decision by the planning commission. MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 22
Mayor MANN: Yeah, I think it s important that we stress the flexibility and urn.. the general corporate philosophy that we re here to help people urn.. fulfill their development and drearns and ah. .it s been a living document and you ve heard many submissions and ah.. made many changes and ah.. many drafts that reflect and it s refreshing to know that the inquiries and the what ifs that you ve come across seem to be accommodated. At this point, I ll turn it over to Council if they have any further questions. As I indicated, this is a urn.. a hearing of record and urn.. after it s over we will consider the presentations and all the information. So are there any questions from Council?
Coun. CALLIOUX I have a question, ah.. Stuart you ve checked into the area around the sewage treatment plant.
Stuart WRAIGHT Yes.
Coun. CALLIOUX So we re saying 300....
Stuart WRAIGHT 300 meters.
Coun. CALLIOUX 300 meters clearance. OK.
Stuart WRAIGHT Yes.
Coun. CALLIOUX The other issue that I had inquired about earlier is Misery Mountain. Is there anything in there that identifies it as a protected park ah. .protected area or a park?
Stuart WRAIGHT Actually what we have in place urn.. is the environmentally sensitive land schedule that s been in place in the existing Land Use Bylaw from 1 994 and I believe this created through the studies through the town has land that may be potentially environmentally sensitive. Urn.. that identifies land urn.. that if an application were to come forward to the town then this is
the map with the green hatching paper rustling . .blue hatching but any of these areas are identified that if an MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 23
application comes forward urn... then we can ask for a geotechnical study, the idea behind that is to say when the land might not be stable or there may be flood issues or there may be some other issues, we can ask for studies to be undertaken. I m not sure Iris if urn.. whether the question is one I actually had the other day, just about the activity on Misery Mountain in terms of the
urn.. sort of the urn.. vehicle usage up there and . .and the general disturbance to the land.
Coun. CALLIOUX: But it s not designated as park in our
Stuart WRAIGHT: It s .. it s actually designated as . .as a community use. Urn.. which what that does mean if.. if.. you know, you know the inquiry that I urn.. addressed just yesterday
was about urn .. vehicles damaging the area, urn.. firstly, if someone specifically came forward, this is how it would be dealt with through the Land Use Bylaw, so OK we want to zone this or we want to be allowed to operate a park here for motorized vehicles, that would be a land use consideration. Ah.. there s also the general disturbance problems and the concerns that have been addressed elsewhere through the town and different bylaws. So this is more to say OK, what type of uses, it s not indicated that the issue does relate to motorized vehicles, it s not indicated that urn. .urn.. that would specifically would be sort of permitted or that would have to come forward to the town to officially allow that, otherwise, it s people that are doing something that urn.. they don t have any approval from the town, federal government to actually doi that sort of activity on that land.
Coun. CALLIOUX So what type of activity is currently allowed on that land?
Stuart WRAIGHT: Urn.. this , the intent for Misery Mountain is urn .. for community type use, urn.. it s like obviously for the Ski Hill, for parks and recreation type purposes. It s really to promote it urn., as a community area. Urn... and that would be the intent. MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 24
Mayor MANN: Are there any other inquiries at this time, from other members of Council? Urn.. again, now at this point I would invite members of the public to um.. come forward and make their comments, I ah.. I hate to belabor it, but it s a court of, not a court but a hearing of record. I would ask you to identify yourself, your general interest and urn.. general standing, business owner, resident, something generic along that line along with your name and ah.. I ll make first call then to the public at large and business community represented here. If you have any questions, concerns, inquiries, anything that would assist Council in ah.. their consideration through the next 2 readings, ah.. as necessary of the Land Use Bylaw.
UNIDENTIFIED: I ll go first.
Mayor MANN: O.K.
UNIDENTIFIED: I have a . .a written submission as well, I could pass that out or I could.
Mayor MANN: Yes, if you could just table that as well, that would be
great. . . .With Cheryl here would be great.
UNIDENTIFIED: The note identifies that we are the long term lease holders and Home Hardware Stores Limited is the owner of the commercial property that we operate um. .the Home Hardware Building Centre from. Ah.. Stuart identified that Home Hardware had contacted him earlier today to let him know that I would be here representing them and their interests.
Mayor MANN: And you are Murray Hanson.
Murray HANSON: And my name is Murray Hanson. I think it s even on my shirt. general laughter
Mayor MANN: Ah.. could you pass your shirt to Cheryl.... MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 25
Murray HANSON: Yeah, that s right. We ve ah.. we ve been the owners of the Home Hardware Building Centre in Peace River for 25 years. Ah.. we ve took what was a small, bankrupt business and through a lot of work and investments and reinvestrnents, ah.. changes, changes and more changes, ah.. built it into a very thriving ah.. part of the business community today. In that lies in where my biggest concern is with the rezoning, is that in order for a business to thrive, they need to grow, they need to change, ah.. if you re standing still in the business world today, you re dying. You have to be moving constantly. I ve renovated approximately every 3 years and I suspect that I ll continue to. I m a young man, and I don t plan on leaving Peace River for a long time to come, so I m not talking about 2 or 3 years hence, I m talking the next 20 years. The zone changes are moving my property into 2 different zones. One is a commercial residential and if I can study that some more, I may even be able to live with that, the other is riverfront development. Now riverfront development does not have anywhere in it a lumber yard. My major part of my business is in the lumber yard. If ah.. this proposal goes through, I anticipate every time I turn or make a move, I m going to be up here in front of Council looking for special permission to be able to put a hole in the wall, ah.. add a building or do an expansion of some sort. And that, ah. .therein lies the big change. And urn.. I m requesting, .forrnal request that we be left as we are. Our business has been in that area, we ve operated under the C-i zone, also noted, the C-i zone no longer handles or has a building materials operation either, so I d say, put us back where we were and leave us alone. We will thrive and prosper and try to develop our business ah.. to the benefit of Peace River as well as ourselves.
Mayor MANN: Thank you, you re points are duly noted of the ah.. of the split zoning on your property and ah.. and the impact of ah.. the change. Did Council have any questions of Murray, ah.. regarding information? MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 26
Coun. GOOD: Just one question, Murray. You re talking about the property you re actually on at this time, am I right?
Murray HANSON: Well, we.. yes, it s all the property that we operate right
now. We .. we.. Home Hardware owns all of the old Beaver Building and all the Home Hardware Building, so
that s ... I m currently the lease holder of all that property and um.. so yes, existing property is where I m talking now.
Coun. CALLIOUX: (unintelligible).
Murray HANSON: I ve .. I ve had the ah.. the experience of . .of trying to get something done and ah.. even a few short months ago in front of here just trying to get a fence and ah.. not this particular group, but another particular group and it seemed as if there is something in that bylaw that says that I can t do it, then I m going to have to be hands and knees back here doing it. And really prefer to be to be at my business, running my business, instead of looking for special... and I hate to be here asking for special treatment or special requisitions. I d rather be allowed as I am today versus ask for special treatment later.
Mayor MANN: Not that we re that unappealing a group of course. general laughter.
Murray HANSON: You guys have far more important things to deal with than me.
Mayor MANN: Were there any other questions regarding um.. Murray s concerns? There s understanding and um.. of that. Thank you, Murray and that will certainly be taken under consideration.
Murray HANSON: Thank you.
Mayor MANN: Did ah.. Stuart do you have any response or ah.. did you have any specific inquiries. You ve pretty well covered most of yeah. MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 27
Stuart WRAIGHT: Yes.
Mayor MANN: All right, ah.. I d then make a second call to the ah.. members of the public and people present to come forward if they wish. And ah.. at this time then I d make a third and final call for any further submissions in respect to Land Use Bylaw No. 1 731 for this public hearing. Ah, if you want to reserve the right to put a written submission or if you re uncomfortable with the process, let me know. At the microphone is um.. Mr. Gordon Troupe.
Gordon TROUPE: Gordon Troupe. Um, I don t really have a lot to say about this. I do have 2 major concerns. I.. I certainly echo Murray s ah.. comments about ah.. buildings that are existing in a zoning area and have been changed. I.. have very serious concerns about whether or not we will be allowed to operate in any manner under this ah.. riverfront development system.
Mayor MANN: Are you, just ah.. is ah.. you are referring specifically to the mall property.
Gordon TROUPE: To both our properties as it ah.. appears on this document ah..
Mayor MANN: Is it R-D or is it C-i?
Gordon TROUPE: Both our properties are part of this ah.. we re switched out of C-i into R dash D. Um.. one of my major concerns over this would be the issue of vacant buildings for 6 months. If we are to consider the potential for flood and flood damage around here and the amount of time it may take to put buildings back together, it would almost preclude us being able to do anything because if it took us longer than 6 months as a vacant building it would appear that we would be changed in our zoning and you people would be able to dictate complete changes to our... to our structure. That s my major... MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 RM. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 28
Mayor MANN: OK. Stuart would you speak to ah.. the ah.. the emergency force major ah.. grand accident ah.. situation?
Stuart WRAIGHT: Certainly, um.. basically in terms of um.. the 6 month process through the Municipal Government Act, that is um.. to use one example, say Minute Muffler, a building that has sat maybe a year, 2 years, in an event like a flood, ah.. you know um.. that s sort of.. that s a disaster, it s not as if um.. the bylaws would be thrown in to try and move people out. Um.. it would be recognized of the situation and certainly um.. the 6 months is those properties that um.. in accordance with the Municipal Government Act through the Province of Alberta that sit there vacant, there s no intention for anything to happen to them, that is a key difference that um.. you know if there is a um.an instant.. um. an issue um.. then that is taken into account. We are not going look to pull all the zoning back or change zoning for the fact that there s been a flood and um.. hopefully there won t be again.. .but um.. it s a totally different scenario.
Mayor MANN: OK, and on the ah.. knowing the general profile of the mall businesses, would it be on the mall general or would it be business by business ah.. basis ah.. whether it fits our riverfront development or not?
Stuart WRAIGHT: Um... from what I recall, the mall was covered or shopping mall under the riverfront development district, ah.. and also retail store covered within that. So that would then mean that that continues as is, that s no change if I m correct in stating that which
Mayor MANN: OK. Thank you Gordon, is there any questions of Gordon from Council?
Gordon TROUPE: I m not finished.
Mayor MANN: OK, on your first point.
Gordon TROUPE: Another concern I have is the issue of major repairs. If there are major repairs required does that mean that we MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 29
are then changed our zoning and for example in the case of a shopping centre, we may be required to provide 3 parking spaces for every one thousand square feet, meaning we are going to have find 1 50 parking stall adjacent to a property where there is no 1 50 parking stalls to be purchased. Those types of things are a major concern to me. The other issue is and.. and it s not
Mayor MANN: Before you move on to ah next point, urn perhaps we can have Stuart speak to that specific concern, major repair and ah.. park
Stuart WRAIGHT: Yes, certainly in terms of the Land Use Bylaw, and this has been in place urn.. there s no significant changes proposed, well there will be one I ll mention in a moment,
um .. there are parking provisions for new buildings or expansions to existing buildings. What we ve tried to certainly recognize um.. through the Land Use Bylaw in dealing with the public and the business community we trying to revitalize the downtown. It has been mentioned that urn.. larger stores so to speak, or those needing parking provision, would look to locate on the west hill. Urn., in terms of businesses downtown, we ve always tried to encourage say as far as we can say, you can t meet the criteria for the off street parking urn.. it would forbid a lot of development down there so um.. any inquiries with regard to that would be that there is basically a parking credit and if you have a parking area in proximity to your store, the fact that it is downtown it is recognized that smaller stores or certainly a shopping mall wouldn t be able to provide the spaces that are needed say urn.. on the west hill. Ah.. so certainly. .um.. it wouldn t make any changes, there s actually a reference in this Land Use Bylaw to say that urn,, the development authority ah.. can sort of take into account the urn.. situation with um.. with regard to say a downtown business that it wouldn t be able to actually provide for um.. off Street parking in most cases. MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 30
Mayor MANN: So again, there is flexibility and ah.. but there is recognized a need for innovation in parking and the public need to keep that C-i district going.
Stuart WRIAGHT: Definitely.
Mayor MANN: OK, your next point Gordon.
Gordon TROUPE: OK. The next point is the issue of wall signs.
Mayor MANN: Which signs?
Gordon TROUPE: Wall signs.
Mayor MANN: OK.
Gordon TROUPE: On page 48, section M. Urn....
Mayor MANN: Good, if you could just let us get there. What page Gordon?
Gordon TROUPE: Page 48 and 49, section M, Wall Signs, Clause 4, maximum number per site. 2 per building face or up to 30% coverage of the building face on site, does not take into consideration the fact that there may be more than one business in a building and.. and this urn.. to me doesn t make a lot of sense. It creates a ah. .ah.. tremendous problem.
Mayor MANN: Stuart, did you ah.. it seems to be ah.. was that ah..
Stuart WRAIGHT Actually wall signs have been in place, that one hasn t changed I believe whatsoever, since the previous document. Ah.. it is certainly something that urn.. Council can bear in mind from Gordon s comments because it s difficult, there s set in a certain standard and that s for urn.. it can be for any type of building for wall sign urn.. so it may be that urn.. there needs to be sort of urn., a size criteria. However, it does say 30% of the urn., the actual sort of urn.. property itself, or sort of the wall face itself, so it may be that the number od signs MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 31
urn.. is varied there to cover something like a shopping maIl.
Mayor MANN: Yeah, that urn.. you might consider some drafts urn.. in respect of that because ah.. it says 1 per building face, when it says building face, is that each side?
Stuart WRAIGHT: Yes, yes, that s a building face.
Mayor MANN: It certainly seems to be something that needs to be considered.
Gordon TROUPE: it would. .ah.. as far as I m concerned it would affect a large number of businesses around here. There s a couple of strip malls that have, you know, they are one building or one continuous building. Are they, do they allow one sign, 2 signs, what are they allowed to do?
Mayor MANN: Although in the technological age, one sign seems to do the whole trick at the arenas. Don you had a question?
Coun. GOOD: Urn.. I m not 1 00% clear on this Gordon, has that impacted you at this point?
Gordon TROUPE: No, no, but
Coun. GOOD: But it s a potential impact?
Gordon TROUPE: Could potentially, yes. Ah, we have faced some sign issues on the building but urn..
Coun. GOOD: But not that one?
Gordon TROUPE: Not that one.
Mayor MANN: And of course always the concern is that while it s us sitting here and Stuart sitting there it s ah.. regardless of who sits here, urn.. the interpretations can change with the people. Any further questions of Gordon? Gordon, did you have any other points to raise? MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 32
Gordon TROUPE: Not really.
(unintelligible)
Mayor MANN: Sorry Frank.
Coun. OBERLE: Actually the question is not for Gordon but on the same topic, ah.. for Stuart, ah.. on the strip mall say up here, um.. the signage that runs along the face of that building over top of each of the businesses, how does that fit here? Those aren t actually wall signs are they?
Stuart WRAIGHT: No, they would actually be I believe fascia signs and are designated in there as one per face, as a fascia sign and then they can have the opportunity for projecting signs as well.
Coun. OBERLE: Thank you.
Mayor MANN: All right, ah.. again we re on third call here. Anyone else wish to make submissions? Terry Weaver.
Terry WEAVER: Hi council, I m Terry Weaver, ah.. I just recently moved up on the west hill and we still have property down in the area that would now become riverfront development. One of the things that ah.. concerns me is that if it becomes riverfront development property, the property values would change tremendously in my eyes. And that s a big concern of mine. Um.. you re restricting the amount people that.. that I can offer or rent my buildings to at that point.
Mayor MANN: You see it ah.. a reduction in value, presumably is what you are saying.
Terry WEAVER: That s .. that s my feeling.
Mayor MANN: Have you done any calculations or had any opinions in that ah... realm, just your business appraisal, right? MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 33
Terry WEAVER: The business where I m located now, I m happy where I m at, but urn in order, urn, my urn, my existing property, I d like to either rent or to sell, and urn.. and I feel that when it becomes a riverfront property, then.. then it s no longer a commercial property, it. .it s not as valuable to. .to certain people. Ah, a prime example is ah.. ah a cabinet shop. You know a cabinet shop doesn t qualify under any ah any of the bylaw s uses on this permitted uses. Ah, that did in fact happen, but ah.. you know, ah I don t know if ah.. that was the end of the story or the start of the story that.. that it didn t follow through.
Mayor MANN: All right, ah.. did you have any comments Stuart, specifically to that?
Stuart WRAIGHT: Yeah, I think a couple of things. Certainly, from what Terry mentioned there, there was urn.. and approach about one of his properties, urn.. a gentleman came to the town office, I think he s located on main street, urn.. was looking at urn.. a property down there, adjacent to Home Hardware, being one of Terry s former properties. Ah, certainly it was discussed and said look we re
working through the bylaw , there could be changes that could affect you, urn.. if you want to move in and go with this, urn.. it s something that urn.. that urn.. that can happen here and now, as far as the bylaw s concerned because until this formally approved and adopted by Council then we re still working to the existing bylaw. Ah.. in terms of the specific about cabinet making, certainly, I d use an example for flexibility and urn.. urn.. dealing with a issue, urn.. just urn.. a few roads back, the former Elks Hall, ah.. there s a gentleman there that s moved in for cabinet making, he confirmed he didn t need any outside storage, but he confirmed he wanted a retail area, he wanted a showroom, he wanted an office and a workshop. Now that certainly brings in a mixed type of use, um.. a lot of the concern urn.. that s been expressed and certainly been brought forward to town staff as well, is the appearance of some lots and certainly the external appearance of the outside storage areas, urn.. this was a MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 34 mixed use type of development but predominately it was retail showroom with a workshop um.. and um.. in terms of the development authority, going through the Municipal Planning Commission they saw no problem with that. So urn.. the idea is that um.. like I ve stressed, we try and tie things and work with people, we need them to come forward and talk to us, um.. a key part of the riverfront development is um.. and excuse me for saying obviously, you know different country but I m sure I ve heard it a lot over here in Canada that urn.. um.. there s a lot of change now where formerly riverfront areas used to be industrial in nature historically, now they re being redeveloped, revitalized, so whereas, a business could have been um.. promoted for industrial commercial use, urn.. now going to a different type of zoning could attract a different type of interest from a business, so it could actually, certainly urn.. prove to be attractive for that land, to sell that land and I know urn.. you know, just as a further example, a couple of years back, just trying to work with some of the businesses around the riverfront area, one of the statements made from a . .a non-industrial type business was that um.. this is river um.. this is an industrial area, always has been, always will be, um.. that s the intent to be honest, that urn.. obviously the understanding that.. that..urn.. we saw as staff with.. with Terry s situation, excellent job what he s done on the west hill there and that s ideally what we d like to see, is business like that thriving, we want to put them in an area where we don t have to go and talk to them about outside storage, about urn.. the impact of um.. any existing use, because obviously it is difficult as well as staff because we are caught in the middle, we get the comments, the negative comments or the other side of the comments, people may say that you know, this detracts from the area. I have had comments to me from businesses that said they, you know, wouldn t look at the riverfront area urn.. because it s not conducive to their type of development and that includes a retail type chain fairly recently, urn.. that was looking at a property in that area and said it was more of an industrial related area, so urn.. the idea it is very difficult MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 35
because it s urn.. changing a pattern of development, but urn.. over time the intent would be to make those same properties attractive, whether it be for retail development, whether it be for apartments, whether it be for restaurants, urn.. anything like that. Obviously, demand will also dictate urn.. but this is the intent, to take it through the municipal development plan to start it somewhere urn.. and hopefully, increase the interest in those properties on the riverfront.
Mayor MANN: So the riverfront property which is ah.. very valuable in
many occasions can make the . .the transition to riverfront development and it s open for incentives and urn.. assistance in transition efforts by Council and Planning to urn.. to move to that area.
Stuart WRAIGHT: The idea is and certainly I think for a town of our size, I mean, you know, since I ve been here and it s been stated so many times, the huge potential for tourism, obviously the work that s been done with the dyke walkway and so on, and additional works that are planned for this year is for downtown beautification, to make it attractive for. .for our residents, attractive for tourists to come into the area and people urn.. I find through the job, urn.. you can deal with a business person and say OK they like the look of the town, however, you are then dealing with the family as well. And.. and that s the other side of it. Urn.. you know, urn. .it s not the straight forward consideration but it s whether the family likes the look of the town as well is a key consideration. So urn.. the idea to urn.. sort of bring this towards really sort of cleaning up the riverfront is to say OK we ve got huge potential, it s been said year after year after year, urn.. let s try and push this forward um.. the dyke walkway has been a huge success, urn.. you know, sort of more plans for extending that and what s associated with that with the downtown revitalization
and that s what we want to do. It s . .it s certainly not as we see it as staff to say that we are forcing anyone out, we wouldn t want to do that, urn.. but to try and work with businesses and yes subject to Council s end MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 36
decision, there may need to be some spur, some
movement um.. to encourage people to .. to.. look at staying within the town because we don t want to lose any business but saying like here s the industrial areas, go there, you know, store your goods there and that s perfect, and then.. then we try and sort of let the key areas, certainly downtown, this side of the river, the intent would be to try and clean that up.
Mayor MANN: And Council has in fact swapped ah.. industrial for riverfront and um.. made it conform to that or is it just one method. Ah, Councillor Wesolowski?
Coun. WESOLOV SKI: Yeah, just for the sake of clarity here, so you re suggesting, if I hear you correctly, that ah.. outside of approved uses, and discretionary uses, as listed under each particular zoning, that there still remains some flexibility for other uses as long as they are consistent with the overall intent for that particular zone? So if we just used Terry as an example, because he s sitting here, urn.. you re saying perhaps the cabinet making shop could have gone in there but the key elements would have been the outside appearance of the building, outside storage etc. etc.?
Stuart WRAIGHT: The discussion at that time with the cabinet maker was the fact that he didn t need, he stressed that he didn t need, external storage space. Urn.. the outside, urn. .in my term working with the town, it s the outside of premises, the storage areas that urn.. have been the comments that have come forward most times, to town staff. At the end of the day, obviously whatever s decided from council, urn.. with this document is how staff will work with that. Urn.. I use that as
an example because urn.. a cabinet maker, yes he . .he indicated he wanted retail space, he wanted showroom space, he wanted workshop space, it.. it does.. it all depends what the final vision is. If you say OK we literally want this type of retail development and so specific, then that s what the development authority will work with and go forward to the appeal board if necessary. Urn.. we look at this stage for the flexibility, urn.. you know, in obviously in terms of another example with the riverfront, urn.. with the Fischer Financial MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 37
building, urn.. there s obviously ideas and visions how the riverfront could really look, was that a good rnove or a bad move for an office to go in there because, you know, you can have visions of say restaurants, bars, urn.. hotels, apartments, whatever, all along the riverfront, which would be the ideal scenario. Was that a benefit, or urn.. a negative move to have an office building? Urn.. it extremely improved the appearance of that premises, that sat vacant for a number of years, but that urn.. actually sat in with the existing bylaw, so yeah, in response to your question there, Rick, that urn.. we really need, we have to have some sort of sets of standards, say generally what we want to see in an area, what type of development and then we really do stress with people that talk
to us, come forward and .. and.. sort of let us know what you want to do, if we can accommodate it, we would certainly work with it as the development authority.
Coun. WESOLOWS I: So would it be fair to characterize it, I guess, maybe from urn.. from Murray s stand point, but also from Terry s, ah.. yeah, we re proposing or you re proposing that we re changing the zoning for this area, but really what it becomes is a goal, right? It becomes a long term goal. Ah.. does it immediately have an impact or does it immediately take effect? Well, if we look at Terry attempting to sell or to lease out a particular piece of property, the old piece of property, urn.. you would permit a certain, or you would recommend permitting, ah.. a certain type of tenant that may not be included under the discretionary or the permitted uses, but that is not necessarily an impediment to reaching the ultimate goal.
Stuart WRAIGHT: Yes, provided..
Coun. WESOLOWS I: In other words, not a long term investment perhaps.
Stuart WRAIGHT: Provided...
Coun. WESOLOWS I: I m not trying to nail you down Stuart, I m ..l rn just trying to get a handle for urn.. how this transition takes place.
Stuart WRAIGHT: To be honest Rick, the transition sort of takes place, it s like urn.. Murray mentioned earlier, it can be immediate. If he suddenly came in sort of, say this went through and the zoning MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 38
changed, if he came in for a proposal for a 6000 square foot addition to his existing building, once this bylaw s adopted, and it s not incorporated within that district, then
Coun. WESOLOWS :1: Then the answer is no..
Stuart WRAIGHT: If it s down as a lumber yard, then that s.. that s the situation, so 2 years ago, urn.. it was a general plan, it was general intent of the town to move the town forward and how it was to going to move forward, this is sort of the nuts and bolts, this is like I mentioned, the day to day stuff. As soon as this documents adopted, then whether it s myself, development authority or appeal board, will have to have a regard to it and depending what flexibility can be given. I mean, obviously if it s, if it s specific to the riverfront development district, whether it be say a lumber yard, a retail unit, whatever, we try and work with people, but on the other hand, if Council has a vision to say OK we see this going in a certain way, as a development authority, we don t want then to be making decisions that you re going to come back to us and say, well,
you know that wasn t our intent, we need to.. to .. to have it sort of clarified through this process.
Mayor MANN: But the grandfather clause is not meant to choke business off, but urn.. it certainly doesn t encourage it, to urn.. expand in a nonconforming urn.. fashion.
Stuart WRAIGHT: No, and that s, that is the decision here and now really, Lorne, or what you end up with as Council, because like I mentioned, 2 years ago it was sort of the general vision, this is now whatever is adopted is what goes in place for the inquiry that comes in, and that is looking at say is this the issue riverfront.. .um.. I m surprised for the people that are here, that there hasn t been any comments about the Bridgeview Industrial Estate, urn.. again it s a significant change proposed urn.. to actually rezone that to residential purposes.
Coun. WESOLOWS :1: Maybe everybody agrees. That s what I read into it.
Mayor MANN: Not to make your decision before consideration of the ah..
Coun. WESOLOWS I: No, of course not, and I never do. MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 39
Mayor MANN: Murray?
Murray HANSON: I can put a bit of a what if in, urn... Terry s here and .. and Terry s my neighbor and if I m in expansion mode, the best place for me to expand is onto my neighbor s property, especially if it s for sale. As I read into this, I wouldn t be able to expand onto Terry s property.
Terry WEAVER: Not to my understanding.
Mayor MANN: Well, I think that s too broad a stroke.
several replies, unintelligible.
Mayor MANN: If you re ah.. you re commer... a retail store ah.. operations are um.. involved, what say ye Stuart?
Stuart WRAIGHT: Ah.. several voices, unintelligible the urn.. the interpretation (laughter) good idea. (laughter) Ah.. the interpretation would be because urn.. I mentioned earlier about same or similar uses, but a lumber yard is specifically referred to, and this is .is a difficult situation say with Murray s operation, in one respect because his building is a retail operation and he s got a lumber yard. Now, he s got sort of a combination there but urn.. you know, if he was saying OK he wanted to put another retail building on that lot, on Terry s lot or lots to build there, urn.. it s something that would be considered, I m sure, obviously he would come forward with an application, and that would be considered by the planning commission. Um.. if it comes forward as expansion of the storage lumber yard area, then officially as the bylaw states at the moment urn... it s a Cl district with a lumber yard to go riverfront development district, it takes out a lumber yard, so I always go on the basis for my own experience that you look at what the predominant use is for a property. That it can be like this, a mix of retail and urn.. lumber yard, very difficult in terms of the split there, but, urn.. that s why I mentioned the one earlier, and it s a smaller example, but the cabinet maker, it was a mix of uses, and what was going to be predominant, was it going to be a whole workshop or were people encouraged to come in, walk in to the place, go and look at the showroom, go to the retail area, go to the office, and have a workshop and urn.. say example, a recent one urn... with Nordern Signs on Main Street, again it s urn.. it s.. .it s sort of inclusive in the building. He has a retail urn.. desk, he has a small showroom area, and MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 40
he has a workshop, and the question is what isd the predominant use. And that s where we try and work with people, not say OK, the bylaw says this, you re, you know, you re retail or your this type or a workshop, we say OK if we can justify it then we ll work with that as a similar use but urn.. from what Murray s saying, it s a valid point, that um.. to urn.. expand onto that land would likely be the lumber store expanding onto there urn.. which wouldn t be included within the riverfront development district.
Mayor MANN: And the presentation on riverfront, . .onto the river and from the river as a tourist attraction is. .is part of the essence of it. But at this current time um.. the existing rules would apply, correct? (Yes). At.. at this current time, Terry s current use, until 6 months lapse, would.. the new person would grandfather presumably?
Stuart WRAIGHT: Urn.. .the thing is if it s been vacant for 6 months or more, the property then it ties in with the new bylaw that comes in effect or that s in effect at that time.
Mayor MANN: Yeah, at that time.
Stuart WRAIGHT: So that s, yeah, at that time.
Mayor MANN: So if you guys want to step outside and close the deal ah... (laughter).
Goldie HANSON: Could I just make a comment?
Mayor MANN: Yes.
Goldie HANSON: What this effectively does is land lock us on both sides. We can t purchase property on either side of us. So our business is as big it s ever going to grow in the existing location. To... we said we plan to be here for a long time but we can t have a business that doesn t continue to grow because if you stop growing, as Murray said, you start dying. It would cost probably between 2 and 3 million dollars for us to move to where we re zoned, and I think you really have to give that consideration.
Mayor MANN: Urn huh, we certainly, we really do, is quite correct and ah.. ah.. and if it continues, that.. that has to be dealt with, that s for sure, and again a great part of it is to make the transition MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 41
and . .and not have to force these big decisions. The business should ride or fall, but in your business, the current location by being the current location is the advantage, not necessarily the river access, right? It s urn.. it s kind of, it s urn.. it s definitely one that we have to consider. Are there any other questions.. from Council? Terry did you have further concerns?
Terry WEAVER: No that s everything.
Mayor MANN: And ah... all right, this is the third call, anyone else wish to make input that would assist us? I ll then ah... oh, certainly sir...
Rob SCHNIEDER: tape change.... Terry and Murray both, because my plans were in the near future of maybe getting that property from Terry as well. That was.. .that was (laughter) kind of a (unintelligible) plan for us.
Mayor MANN: Can we have a desk, Terry would like a desk at the back. (Laughter).
Rob SCNIEDER: Home Hardware is really a good spot for us, it s right down
town there, it s . .it s a good business for us. .yeah it s and for us to have to move out of that area as well would be ah.. like
where would we . . .we can t expand at all.
Mayor MANN: Yeah your business is complimentary to...
Rob SCHNIEDER: And I agree with Terry, like his property there has value to Murray, has value to me but to the average person that looks at the property probably thinks it s nothing. It s just property, it s not the building or anything....
Mayor MANN: Well no, it can be the appearance and the ah.. if you re attracting people to a tourism or an apartment or a ah.. hotel on the riverfront, it s ah.. you know, you re business is complimentary to the existing purpose, it might not be complimentary to future urn.. and again you re.. you re example is bang on the hypothetical that was reviewed ah..ah.. when Stuart talked about the primary use ah.. it s very analogous to the Elks Hall business, which is retail? Which is commercial?
Rob SCNIEDER: That s right, our business is pretty much the same so. MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 42
Mayor MANN: I guess it has a bit to do in..in whether the flexibility and intent is to encourage and nurture businesses to grow, which is the general political intent and ah.. meet the goals of urn.. the urn.. community goal of ah.. developing the riverfront out. Definitely you ve been heard. Murray?
Murray HANSON: One more, the spot of the cabinet shop that went into the Elks Hall, that s just commercial residential zone, that s not the zone we re talking about. Ah.. the Elks Hall isn t part of the
riverfront development zone, it s part of the commercial . . .so there s a fine line between C-R or is it a riverfront
development, and I ve got a feeling that if he tried to . .to do that in the riverfront development zone, he may not have been able to get a (unintelligible)
Mayor MANN: I ah.. I Stuart, I took it that you were addressing the situation
both where it is and .. and vies a vies Terry s property, correct?
Stuart WRAIGHT: Yeah, and urn that was the reference to say about how the flexibility worked in that case. Saying OK what was the prominent use. Um.. I suppose you could use for an example, if some one in urn.. a riverfront development urn.. wanted to say, make boats and sell boats or boat parts, something like that there, ideal located right next to the river, the sort of thing that urn.. you d think would tie in. Now is it a workshop? is it a retail use? urn.. in the riverfront development it would certainly be a retail use and urn.. the the discussion would take place as to what is the prominent use of that building, so if, that was the reference there to urn.. Custom Oak Design, it s moved into a building, it s hardly been noticed, I certainly wouldn t urn.. pick on specific areas but, you know, we promote riverfront park ar one of our main parks and you can
sort of, looking close proximity and . .and see all sorts of stuff stored outside premises. That s the sort of thing that the difference is that urn.. to say what s a workshop and what s needed and what storage is needed compared to a retail type development. And that s the urn.. the understanding, the intent of the development authority, if I can term it that way, through myself and the Municipal Planning Commission, is that we will try and work with people, we want to clean up the riverfront, urn.. show us, prove us that you are will encourage urn.. retail activity as far urn.. we would interpret it unless there s specifically a different urn.. interpretation through the Land Use Bylaw through Council s decision, we would say MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 43
look, if you re bringing retail custom into that property, urn.. regardless of the size, we are looking then at potential retail unit. Obviously, Murray s is the different situation, where you ve got something with a retail unit and a lumber yard tied in, which are 2 separate uses in the Land Use Bylaw.
Mayor MANN: All Right. Ah.. Council, have any other comments or
questions, .. from the public?
Coun. CALLIOUX: (faint) I just have a question I guess, (unintelligible) Eastside of river road, are there any objections to the area that s on the west side of river road?
Murray HANSON: No, not from... I see river road as being the dividing line, instead of on the other side of me. If river road was the dividing line I think there s probably be an empty hail.
Mayor MANN: All right, any other ah.. comments? Ah. .certainly open and what I understand will now happen is that a transcript will be ah.. prepared and it will urn.. be presented to Council at a future date for debate and discussion. The ah.. the input and points will be carefully considered ah during and ah.. by administration and ah.. prior to that discussion and ah.. Council meetings are open and ah.. I trust that urn.. is there a sign in sheet that these people could be notified when that ah.. meeting is? Gordon?
Gordon TROUPE: Yeah, can I make just a quick comment on. .on the basis of what Iris said there? If you are contemplating any changes
vies a vies river road, and the . .the riverfront development, changing that sort of thing, I would hope that you would follow the road all the way down by the Riverdrive Mall.
Mayor MANN: Yeah, I hear your concerns and we will give them due weight in ah.. the big picture of the Land Use Bylaw and the general municipal plan. Thank everyone for their attendance, Frank did you want
Couri. OBERLE: Could I... I just wanted to ask would each of the participants here tonight be notified of the night...?
Mayor MANN: That s what I d like to suggest is a sign in sheet and then we could ah.. oh, the names have been recorded and ah.. we ll get the notice of the meeting out to you. And ah.. there are 2 readings to go. They can both go at ah.. one meeting or if ah.. MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 2003 AT 7:10 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 44 there is further stuff that arises from the debate or the materials it will ah . .go. Ah, thanks, ah.. thank everyone, it s ah.. the public s input is very important to this Council and ah.. and ah..thank you again. I declare this hearing closed. adjourned at 8:45 p.m.