The Fine Arts and Lithography in Los Angeles Oral History Transcript, 1988-89 : Lynton Kistler
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rT".'«^ THE FINE ARTS AND LITHOGRAPHY IN LOS ANGELES Lynton Kistler Interviewed by Joanne L. Ratner Completed under the auspices of the Oral History Program University of California Los Angeles Copyright © 1993 The Regents of the University of California COPYRIGHT LAW The copyright law of the United States (Title 17, United States Code ) governs the making of photocopies or other reproductions of copyrighted material . Under certain conditions specified in the law, libraries and archives are authorized to furnish a photocopy or other reproduction. One of these specified conditions is that the photocopy or reproduction is not to be used for any purpose other than private study, scholarship, or research. If a user makes a request for, or later uses, a photocopy or reproduction for purposes in excess of "fair use," that user may be liable for copyright infringement. This institution reserves the right to refuse to accept a copying order if, in its judgement, fulfillment of the order would involve violation of copyright law. RESTRICTIONS ON THIS INTERVIEW None, LITERARY RIGHTS AND QUOTATION This manuscript is hereby made available for research purposes only. All literary rights in the manuscript, including the right to publication, are reserved to the University Library of the University of California, Los Angeles. No part of the manuscript may be quoted for publication without the written permission of the University Librarian of the University of California, Los Angeles. Photograph courtesy of Tobey C. Moss Gallery, Los Angeles, California. - CONTENTS Biographical Summary vii Interview History xi TAPE NUMBER: I, Side One (December 13, 1988) 1 Ancestry and family background--Parents and childhood--Early education--Serves in World War I. TAPE NUMBER: I, Side Two (December 13, 1988) 14 Learns the process of lithography--Meeting artists, dealers, and other patrons of the arts-- Printing Picture Book for Jean Chariot. TAPE NUMBER: II, Side One (January 3, 1989) 30 Father, William A. Kistler, publishes Out West magazine--More about his early education-- Innovations in printing in the twenties and thirties--Convincing customers to switch to offset printing. TAPE NUMBER: II, Side Two (January 3, 1989) 44 Alois Senefelder and the invention of lithography- -More on printing for Charlot-- Exhibition at the Stendahl Gallery--Attracting artists to the medium of lithography. TAPE NUMBER: III, Side One (January 10, 1989) 62 Galleries and exhibitions for prints in L.A. in the thirties--Artists and other people interested in prints in the thirties--More on learning the process of lithography--Prices of prints-- California Printmakers and Los Angeles Art Association. TAPE NUMBER: III, Side Two (January 10, 1989) 78 Working with Merle Armitage- Warren Newcombe -- The Art of Edward Weston --Other early books--More on Merle Armitage. IV - TAPE NUMBER: IV, Side One (January 17, 1989) 95 More on working with Armitage--Converting from letterpress to offset lithography printing-- Giovanni Napolitano: Fifteen Reproductions of His Work -- Modern Dance --Paul Landacre- -Books on Stravinsky and Picasso. TAPE NUMBER: IV, Side Two (January 17, 1989) 110 Martha Graham - -Working in his father's plant-- Presses and stones he failed to acquire--The qualities of lithography stones-- Fit for a King: The Merle Armitage Book of Food --Move to New York-- Changes in printing materials and equipment. TAPE NUMBER: V, Side One (January 24, 1989) 128 Artists he worked with in the thirties--More on working with Charlot--Involvement with Los Angeles art schools. TAPE NUMBER: V, Side Two (January 24, 1989) 144 "Brooklyn Museum Retrospective Print Show, 1913- 1947 "--Need to keep exercising one's lithography skills--Charlot ' s personality--Encouragement from the Metropolitan Museum of Art--More on working with Chariot. TAPE NUMBER: VI, Side One (January 31, 1989) 157 Picture Book No. II --Closing the plant--Printing for Marcia Maris--Jack Lord and Picture Book No. II --Printing a miniature of the original Picture Book - -Printing at Blanchard Press in New York. TAPE NUMBER: VI, Side Two (January 31, 1989) 172 Zinc plates replaced by aluminum--Dif f iculty of doing plates for The Little Seamstress -- Kei Viti -- More on working with Chariot. TAPE NUMBER: VII, Side One (February 21, 1989) 184 Printing for artists in Los Angeles--More on changes in printing materials and technology- Herbert Ryman--Other lithographers in Los Angeles--More on printing for artists in Los Angeles. - TAPE NUMBER: VII, Side Two (February 21, 1989) 197 Los Angeles art galleries' promotion of prints in the forties--Working with Man Ray--Working with Max Ernst--The working relationship between artists and printers--Refusal to print pornography. TAPE hfUMBER: VIII, Side One (March 7, 1989) 211 The Bulletin - -Publishes How To Make a Lithograph - Organizes an exhibit-- Joseph Mugnaini--Projects which were never completed- -Eugene Berman. TAPE NUMBER: VIII, Side Two (March 7, 1989) 230 Sets up a commercial printing business on West Temple Street- -Differences between stone and offset lithography--Necessity of advertising in today's market. TAPE NUMBER: IX, Side One (March 21, 1989) 243 Slides of the lithography process--Slides of prints by Jean Chariot. TAPE NUMBER: IX, Side Two (March 21, 1989) 256 Slides of lithographs by various artists. TAPE NUMBER: X, Side One (March 21, 1989) 270 More slides of lithographs. TAPE NUMBER: XI, Side One (March 28, 1989) 278 The opening of lithography workshops in the sixties--Advantages of collecting prints-- Relationship with the various lithography workshops--Decision to quit the printing business--More on Merle Armitage--Carl Haverlin arranges exhibit at California State University, Northridge--Decision not to stay in New York-- Home at Patricia Avenue. TAPE NUMBER: XI, Side Two (March 28, 1989) 295 Galleries and prints--His contributions to lithography--His most noteworthy prints. Index 303 Index of Books and Prints Printed by Lynton Kistler 307 vi BIOGRAPHICAL SUMMARY PERSONAL HISTORY: Bom: August 30, 1897, Los Angeles. Education: Hollywood High School and Manual Arts High School, Los Angeles. Military Service: Private, United States Army, 1917-18, Spouses: Naomi Tucker Kistler, one child; Helen Mikesell Kistler; Lelah Morris Kistler. SELECTED WORKS PRINTED BY: The Work of Maier-Krieg (1932). The Lithographs of Richard Day (1932). Warren Newcombe (1932). The Art of Edward Weston (1932). Rockwell Kent (1932). Picture Book , Jean Chariot (1933). Henrietta Shore (1933). Elise (1934). Zarathustra Jr. Speaks of Art , Louis Danz (1934). Millard Sheets (1935). The Capture of Inspiration , Robert E. Schmitz (1935). Napolitano: Fifteen Reproductions of His Work in Oil, Sgraffito, Fresco, Drawing, and Mechanical Design (1935). Modern Dance , Ramiel McGehee, editor (1935). Hollywood Bowl , Isabel Morse Jones (1936). Igor Stavinsky , Merle Armitage (1936). Vll Trip to Greece; Photographs , Jerome Hill (1936). Two Statements , Pablo Picasso (1936). Martha Graham , Merle Armitage, editor (1937). Books and Typography Designed by Merle Armitage , Ramiel McGehee, editor (1938). "Fit for a King"; The Merle Armitage Book of Food , Ramiel McGehee, editor (1939). Santos; A Primitive American Art, Willard Houghland (1946). Burro Alley , Edwin Corle (1946). First Penthouse Dwellers of Ameri ca, Ruth "^ M. Underbill (1946). Fifty Photographs by Edward Weston (1947). Dance Memoranda , Merle Armitage, edited by Edwin Corle (1947). Alphabet for Adults , Man Ray (1948). Max Ernst; Thirty Years of His Work (1949). How to Make a Lithograph , Lynton Kistler (1950). Stella Dysart of Ambrosia Lake , Merle Armitage (1959). Success Is No Accident; The Biography of William Paul Whitsett , Merle Armitage (1959). Pagans, Conguistadors, Heroes, and Martyrs , Merle Armitage (1960, 1964). Of Streets and Stars , Alan Marcus (1960). Painter into Artist: The Progress of Edward O'Brien , Margaret Phillips and Merle Armitage (1964). No Going Back; Odyssey of a Conversion , Margaret Phillips (1964). Atanas Katchamakof f . Leskovetz, La Quinta (1965). Picture Book No. II , Jean Chariot (1973). Vlll Picture Book , miniature copy, Jean Chariot (1974) SELECTED ARTISTS PRINTED FOR: Clinton Adams Eugene Berman Jean Chariot Phil Dike Lorser Feitelson Mary Finley Fry Richard Haines Paul Landacre Helen Lundeberg Marcia Maris Stanton Macdonald-Wright Joseph Mugnaini Jean Negulesco Warren Newcombe Phil Paradise Herbert Ryman Palmer Schoppe Millard Sheets Jan Stussy Wayne Thiebaud June Wayne Beatrice Wood IX ; AWARDS American Institute of Graphic Arts, Fifty Books of the Year, Warren Newcombe (1932), The Art of Edward Weston (1932). PUBLICATION: How To Make a Lithograph . Los Angeles, 1950, . INTERVIEW HISTORY INTERVIEWER: Joanne L. Ratner, Interviewer, UCLA Oral History- Program. B.A., American Studies/Art History, Scripps College; M,A., Art History/Museum Studies, University of Southern California. TIME AND SETTING OF INTERVIEW: Place: Kistler's home, Laguna Hills, California. Dates, length of sessions: December 13, 1988 (69 minutes); January 3, 1989 (80); January 10, 1989 (78); January 17, 1989 (84); January 24, 1989 (67); January 31, 1989 (62); February 21, 1989 (63); March 7, 1989 (67); March 21, 1989 (103); March 28, 1989 (62). Total number of recorded hours: 12.25 Persons present during interview: Kistler and Ratner. Kistler's wife, Lelah Kistler, was present intermittently CONDUCT OF INTERVIEW: In preparing for the interview, Ratner reviewed Kistler's papers at UCLA's William Andrews Clark Memorial Library.